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Speaker 1: I am only saying that that there are tiny communities

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Speaker 1: never done that with friends. So you're saying, a nice

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Speaker 1: What's that man? Like? I was my group Chace so mean,

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Speaker 1: It's also like, I hate it. It goes to this

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Speaker 1: a in a more popular sense, right, The original premise

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Speaker 1: lad TV interviews Flat Joe and then Fat Joe sort

422
00:26:54,560 --> 00:26:57,719
Speaker 1: of became a bit of a meme. He was he

423
00:26:57,800 --> 00:27:00,720
Speaker 1: was made fun of, He was called Homophoe Big for

424
00:27:00,800 --> 00:27:03,560
Speaker 1: many months after this. This was like I remember a

425
00:27:03,600 --> 00:27:06,919
Speaker 1: big deal on like Twitter at one point, but Fat

426
00:27:07,040 --> 00:27:11,960
Speaker 1: Joe and rewatching the video, is it being nearly as

427
00:27:12,000 --> 00:27:17,879
Speaker 1: homophobic as it it's originally presented, which I'm curious to know.

428
00:27:20,160 --> 00:27:27,280
Speaker 1: I'm I'm not defending Fat Joe. I don't think he

429
00:27:27,359 --> 00:27:29,439
Speaker 1: needs my help in this, nor do I want to

430
00:27:29,520 --> 00:27:32,640
Speaker 1: offer it. But I will say that the original question

431
00:27:32,760 --> 00:27:37,399
Speaker 1: that's asked is more about the Mr C situation. If

432
00:27:37,480 --> 00:27:40,679
Speaker 1: y'all remember what was because he wouldn't. He kept getting

433
00:27:40,920 --> 00:27:44,040
Speaker 1: caught in refusing to acknowledge you. Right, So Mr C

434
00:27:44,359 --> 00:27:47,560
Speaker 1: over and over again was having sex with sex workers,

435
00:27:48,040 --> 00:27:53,320
Speaker 1: trans sex workers, specifically getting caught with these trans sex workers.

436
00:27:53,359 --> 00:27:57,719
Speaker 1: He eventually played guilty for basically trying to Uh. I

437
00:27:57,760 --> 00:28:00,840
Speaker 1: think it was like procure prostitute bots or whatever the

438
00:28:00,840 --> 00:28:04,800
Speaker 1: funk they were calling it at the time. Ultimately, Lad

439
00:28:04,800 --> 00:28:08,640
Speaker 1: being Lad goes to Fat Joe and goes, hey, Fat Joe,

440
00:28:08,680 --> 00:28:10,840
Speaker 1: what do you think about this other man's thing that's

441
00:28:10,840 --> 00:28:13,200
Speaker 1: happening that ain't got nothing to do with you, at

442
00:28:13,240 --> 00:28:16,760
Speaker 1: which point Fat Joe goes, hey, dog, I don't know

443
00:28:16,840 --> 00:28:20,760
Speaker 1: nothing about that. I respect everybody's choices inside of this.

444
00:28:20,920 --> 00:28:23,360
Speaker 1: If you're gay, be gay. If you're not, you're not,

445
00:28:23,760 --> 00:28:26,920
Speaker 1: that ain't none of my business. Blah blah blah. Now

446
00:28:27,080 --> 00:28:31,160
Speaker 1: then Vlad goes on to ask him about a conversation

447
00:28:31,240 --> 00:28:34,240
Speaker 1: he had with may No, and which may No he asked,

448
00:28:34,280 --> 00:28:36,080
Speaker 1: may No, would you ever do a song with a

449
00:28:36,160 --> 00:28:39,640
Speaker 1: gay rapper? Which, again, this is why this motherfucker sucks,

450
00:28:39,960 --> 00:28:43,000
Speaker 1: because why are you asking may No if he would

451
00:28:43,000 --> 00:28:46,200
Speaker 1: do a song with a gay rapper? Leave that nigga

452
00:28:46,280 --> 00:28:52,960
Speaker 1: out of out of that combo? What the fuck? May No?

453
00:28:53,200 --> 00:28:57,720
Speaker 1: Okay No, I I know what Mayno is going to say,

454
00:28:58,000 --> 00:28:59,720
Speaker 1: and what did he and what did he say? I

455
00:28:59,760 --> 00:29:07,680
Speaker 1: have a pretty good idea. Yeah, dog, yeah, this is

456
00:29:07,720 --> 00:29:10,240
Speaker 1: may Know when he was still punching people on the street.

457
00:29:10,360 --> 00:29:15,160
Speaker 1: This That man is a beast. You don't ask him

458
00:29:15,200 --> 00:29:19,280
Speaker 1: nothing about none of that. But may Know surprisingly says,

459
00:29:19,520 --> 00:29:24,240
Speaker 1: I already I presume I already have, at which point

460
00:29:25,000 --> 00:29:28,600
Speaker 1: Fat Joe basically says, yeah, I think I have too,

461
00:29:29,240 --> 00:29:32,920
Speaker 1: goes on to basically say that he believes that the

462
00:29:33,000 --> 00:29:36,000
Speaker 1: real problem is that there are people who won't just

463
00:29:36,160 --> 00:29:38,720
Speaker 1: come out. If you're gay, you're gay. If you're straight,

464
00:29:38,760 --> 00:29:41,600
Speaker 1: you're straight. But you should tell him, he says, and

465
00:29:41,680 --> 00:29:44,560
Speaker 1: you should just be front facing with the ship because

466
00:29:44,920 --> 00:29:48,240
Speaker 1: there's already a gay mafia, and the gay mafia will

467
00:29:48,320 --> 00:29:50,479
Speaker 1: protect you and support you, So what do you have

468
00:29:50,560 --> 00:29:55,600
Speaker 1: to hide? Just be yourself. So he's weirdly, I'm trying

469
00:29:55,640 --> 00:30:01,479
Speaker 1: to unpack this. He's kind of a good guy. Well here,

470
00:30:01,640 --> 00:30:06,400
Speaker 1: here's what. Here's my issue with that statement. I feel

471
00:30:06,440 --> 00:30:09,880
Speaker 1: like I feel like telling a gay person just come

472
00:30:09,880 --> 00:30:12,640
Speaker 1: out and admit it and will be cool. It's like

473
00:30:12,720 --> 00:30:15,600
Speaker 1: when a woman you're dating tells you if you're sleeping

474
00:30:15,600 --> 00:30:17,880
Speaker 1: with other people, just be honest about it. I don't

475
00:30:17,880 --> 00:30:20,800
Speaker 1: tell me, like, yeah, I can be, but you're gonna

476
00:30:20,880 --> 00:30:25,000
Speaker 1: leave me if I do. Yeah, the support ain't gonna

477
00:30:25,000 --> 00:30:28,160
Speaker 1: be what you're protecting. It's like, it's gonna be cool.

478
00:30:28,440 --> 00:30:32,040
Speaker 1: I wanted to be cool. Yeah, you ever to come

479
00:30:32,080 --> 00:30:34,360
Speaker 1: home and knew you were gonna get a whipping, whipping,

480
00:30:34,880 --> 00:30:37,240
Speaker 1: and it's like, just say what happened. It's cool today.

481
00:30:37,280 --> 00:30:39,840
Speaker 1: You're not gonna be in trouble. I just I just

482
00:30:39,880 --> 00:30:43,640
Speaker 1: want to talk through your choices. And it's like yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,

483
00:30:43,680 --> 00:30:45,880
Speaker 1: but I'm gonna say something that's gonna make you mad

484
00:30:45,960 --> 00:30:48,640
Speaker 1: enough that you're gonna beat me for it. Yeah. I

485
00:30:48,680 --> 00:30:53,920
Speaker 1: can smell it in the weapon. Yeah, you're just not

486
00:30:53,960 --> 00:30:59,360
Speaker 1: mad right now. But this is temporary. I do I

487
00:30:59,480 --> 00:31:03,320
Speaker 1: do it. Is. I think that I understand what you're saying,

488
00:31:03,320 --> 00:31:05,800
Speaker 1: because that's a loaded that's a loaded gun, right, just

489
00:31:05,840 --> 00:31:08,480
Speaker 1: tell him, Hey, just do it. I understand where he's

490
00:31:08,520 --> 00:31:12,080
Speaker 1: coming from. And y in theory, that's like a very

491
00:31:12,200 --> 00:31:14,800
Speaker 1: great idea. I think the playing field is a little

492
00:31:14,800 --> 00:31:18,520
Speaker 1: more rocky than that. Yeah, it's it's it's not easy

493
00:31:18,560 --> 00:31:22,000
Speaker 1: to come out for a plethora of reasons, and just

494
00:31:22,160 --> 00:31:25,440
Speaker 1: being like Fat Joe being one of them, may know

495
00:31:25,640 --> 00:31:30,440
Speaker 1: will punch you in the face almost immediately and I don't.

496
00:31:32,240 --> 00:31:36,400
Speaker 1: And and for those reasons, it to to just be like, hey,

497
00:31:36,440 --> 00:31:39,800
Speaker 1: come do it. Why you being scared? Stop being phony?

498
00:31:39,920 --> 00:31:43,000
Speaker 1: Whatever the funk it is is a little bit naive

499
00:31:43,200 --> 00:31:46,920
Speaker 1: at best from Fat Joe. Yeah, right, that because I

500
00:31:46,960 --> 00:31:48,880
Speaker 1: don't think that will be cool, And I think I'm

501
00:31:48,880 --> 00:31:51,560
Speaker 1: more I think I think most people are more equal

502
00:31:51,600 --> 00:31:55,200
Speaker 1: opportunity because if you say, like little KNOWLEDGEC is out now,

503
00:31:55,240 --> 00:31:58,960
Speaker 1: people did songs with him. He's a here, Jack Harlow

504
00:31:59,000 --> 00:32:00,640
Speaker 1: got a song on him. A lot that largest got

505
00:32:00,640 --> 00:32:02,680
Speaker 1: a song with him. People complain that he's a little

506
00:32:02,720 --> 00:32:07,560
Speaker 1: too sexual, which I think I think that's not homophobic.

507
00:32:07,600 --> 00:32:10,040
Speaker 1: I think that's fair because I think if a man

508
00:32:10,920 --> 00:32:14,560
Speaker 1: if a man is hetero sexual and too sexual. It's

509
00:32:14,560 --> 00:32:17,360
Speaker 1: still uncomfortable for me. Like even like you ever met

510
00:32:17,360 --> 00:32:20,280
Speaker 1: those guys that they like women but they're too sexual

511
00:32:20,320 --> 00:32:22,920
Speaker 1: about it, Well, you're just can't. I can't deny him

512
00:32:22,960 --> 00:32:25,840
Speaker 1: the Montero video, Like I'm not gonna close this laptop

513
00:32:26,280 --> 00:32:28,880
Speaker 1: and go watching Dina Howard videos after this. But you

514
00:32:28,880 --> 00:32:31,680
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, Like just because it makes me uncomfortable,

515
00:32:32,080 --> 00:32:35,360
Speaker 1: I can't deny him his because I like booty shaking

516
00:32:35,440 --> 00:32:38,040
Speaker 1: videos as well. I'm not gonna like step On he

517
00:32:38,280 --> 00:32:42,000
Speaker 1: is someone's a Dina Howard and we have exactly, and

518
00:32:42,240 --> 00:32:45,040
Speaker 1: we all got our proclivities. I like to feel big

519
00:32:45,040 --> 00:32:48,120
Speaker 1: old titties on my forehead and I can't. Maybe not

520
00:32:48,160 --> 00:32:50,640
Speaker 1: everybody wants to see that in the music video, but

521
00:32:50,800 --> 00:32:54,160
Speaker 1: some might, to be honest, to be fair, I don't

522
00:32:54,200 --> 00:32:56,200
Speaker 1: want to see big old titties on your forehead in

523
00:32:56,200 --> 00:33:00,280
Speaker 1: the music video exactly. And that's fine. That's like, don't

524
00:33:00,280 --> 00:33:04,000
Speaker 1: have to watch it, right, I'm going, but I don't

525
00:33:04,840 --> 00:33:09,960
Speaker 1: listen too Out of three ain't bad. You know it's

526
00:33:09,960 --> 00:33:12,720
Speaker 1: gonna be all over Twitter, but I don't want to.

527
00:33:15,160 --> 00:33:17,720
Speaker 1: I never wanted to say anything more if that's the

528
00:33:17,760 --> 00:33:22,920
Speaker 1: thing I get trending before on Twitter, Twitter, Yeah, media

529
00:33:23,200 --> 00:33:27,680
Speaker 1: tittys on his forehead. He's come out of love with it.

530
00:33:28,680 --> 00:33:31,360
Speaker 1: Finds it comfortable. Yeah, he didn't WinCE at all. He

531
00:33:31,920 --> 00:33:35,360
Speaker 1: looked almost too comfortable. Is that possible? He loves it.

532
00:33:35,760 --> 00:33:38,960
Speaker 1: It's a strange ask too. I feel like I had

533
00:33:38,960 --> 00:33:40,880
Speaker 1: a lot of friends who were like fans of like

534
00:33:41,080 --> 00:33:43,200
Speaker 1: R and B singers, like and they but like when

535
00:33:43,320 --> 00:33:45,360
Speaker 1: R and B singers, even though they were singing to women,

536
00:33:45,520 --> 00:33:49,200
Speaker 1: they got too sexual. It became like like you're too sexual,

537
00:33:49,240 --> 00:33:52,160
Speaker 1: like even though there's nothing, there's nothing gay about it,

538
00:33:52,160 --> 00:33:56,440
Speaker 1: it's just too sexual form for public. That's fair. I

539
00:33:56,440 --> 00:33:59,960
Speaker 1: think there's a general like level of decorum we all

540
00:34:00,320 --> 00:34:02,400
Speaker 1: because like the Peaches and Cream video, it's weird to

541
00:34:02,440 --> 00:34:06,240
Speaker 1: me Peaches and the Cream. I will say that there's

542
00:34:06,280 --> 00:34:11,160
Speaker 1: a level of sexuality that that across the board makes

543
00:34:11,160 --> 00:34:15,200
Speaker 1: me uncomfortable on like standardized television, you know what I mean,

544
00:34:16,560 --> 00:34:18,720
Speaker 1: Like if you just put it on regular ass TV,

545
00:34:19,480 --> 00:34:21,200
Speaker 1: some of this ship is taking it too far, no

546
00:34:21,239 --> 00:34:23,080
Speaker 1: matter who the funk is doing that. I think now

547
00:34:23,120 --> 00:34:25,720
Speaker 1: if you put it on my private cell phone, yeah,

548
00:34:26,040 --> 00:34:30,240
Speaker 1: got blessed. Yeah, And we're watching. If we're watching uncut

549
00:34:32,120 --> 00:34:36,400
Speaker 1: Yea is a perfect example that video. It's all women,

550
00:34:36,480 --> 00:34:39,000
Speaker 1: and it is very uncomfortable to just watch at three

551
00:34:39,000 --> 00:34:41,719
Speaker 1: o'clock your rap city, Yeah yeah, because it would be

552
00:34:41,760 --> 00:34:46,240
Speaker 1: all after school, Yeah, after school, and it's like ripping peaches.

553
00:34:46,760 --> 00:34:49,799
Speaker 1: It's very uncomfortable and it's like, in reality, this is

554
00:34:49,800 --> 00:34:54,960
Speaker 1: not a great dessertecake, right, who puts cream? It's so messy.

555
00:34:55,120 --> 00:34:59,120
Speaker 1: It seems so messy. That is a messy meal. I

556
00:34:59,120 --> 00:35:01,759
Speaker 1: don't think. I never about that peaches out of the

557
00:35:01,880 --> 00:35:06,560
Speaker 1: can with the syrup and the fruit, I don't get it.

558
00:35:06,800 --> 00:35:09,160
Speaker 1: Let me be clear that I don't think that they

559
00:35:09,200 --> 00:35:14,640
Speaker 1: were doing canned peaches in the peaches. You're gonna be classes.

560
00:35:15,160 --> 00:35:20,560
Speaker 1: I think they were doing cut peaches. Okay, I'm just

561
00:35:20,680 --> 00:35:27,279
Speaker 1: pour trash eating my peaches out of a canoe. It

562
00:35:27,400 --> 00:35:31,759
Speaker 1: was heavy syrup, guys, guys, I'm willing to stand on this.

563
00:35:32,280 --> 00:35:36,080
Speaker 1: I don't think that the song was saying anything about

564
00:35:36,120 --> 00:35:40,120
Speaker 1: cutting open a can of peaches and then dipping, dipping

565
00:35:40,160 --> 00:35:45,719
Speaker 1: the individual slippery ass little fucking slugs of peaches in

566
00:35:45,760 --> 00:35:49,359
Speaker 1: a video. That's what it's the heavy syrup. Yeah, but

567
00:35:49,400 --> 00:35:56,279
Speaker 1: that's that's what we're talking about the actual sex. What

568
00:35:56,360 --> 00:35:58,920
Speaker 1: do you do? This is a this is a dessert

569
00:35:59,000 --> 00:36:06,319
Speaker 1: you could buy fully to Bodega listen listeners if you

570
00:36:06,400 --> 00:36:09,239
Speaker 1: feel differently. I'd love to be wrong on this. I

571
00:36:09,280 --> 00:36:14,480
Speaker 1: just don't think we were talking about heavy syrup. Yeah, hey,

572
00:36:14,560 --> 00:36:16,600
Speaker 1: I I think that. I think that you're gonna be

573
00:36:17,239 --> 00:36:20,920
Speaker 1: surprised at how wrong you're proven after if if I'm wrong,

574
00:36:21,040 --> 00:36:23,680
Speaker 1: I will openly admit it on our next episode. If

575
00:36:23,719 --> 00:36:27,719
Speaker 1: i'm what happens you don't have time to peel peaches? Yeah? Yeah?

576
00:36:27,760 --> 00:36:30,319
Speaker 1: What are you doing? Are you all telling me that

577
00:36:30,400 --> 00:36:33,800
Speaker 1: you know how to hold one of them peaches and

578
00:36:33,800 --> 00:36:37,719
Speaker 1: and enjoy it with your raw bare hand. Well, no,

579
00:36:37,880 --> 00:36:40,160
Speaker 1: I don't. Argument is that it's not enjoyable, it's it's

580
00:36:40,200 --> 00:36:43,600
Speaker 1: too mess. I'm with you. I think that's it. But

581
00:36:43,680 --> 00:36:46,520
Speaker 1: I think, and I think if I was gonna do it,

582
00:36:47,000 --> 00:36:50,280
Speaker 1: I would pour, I would can't open the peaches before

583
00:36:50,440 --> 00:36:53,400
Speaker 1: she got there, and then I would put it. I

584
00:36:53,440 --> 00:36:57,080
Speaker 1: would have the whole situation in a bull chilled before

585
00:36:57,120 --> 00:37:00,000
Speaker 1: she even got to my house. Although I will say,

586
00:37:00,120 --> 00:37:03,880
Speaker 1: if a girl shows up and you just got peaches ready,

587
00:37:03,920 --> 00:37:07,160
Speaker 1: you just come out with the bowl of peaches. You're like,

588
00:37:07,200 --> 00:37:08,640
Speaker 1: we can do whatever you want to do with you.

589
00:37:09,239 --> 00:37:12,960
Speaker 1: But that's what I'm saying. I think that you guys

590
00:37:12,960 --> 00:37:17,040
Speaker 1: are making this a ridiculous conversation by suggesting that these

591
00:37:17,080 --> 00:37:19,759
Speaker 1: men are gonna like cut him up in front of her.

592
00:37:20,080 --> 00:37:23,120
Speaker 1: He's not. He's been playing this three weeks. We didn't

593
00:37:23,160 --> 00:37:28,960
Speaker 1: say that. I'm saying exactly exactly what is done. Yeah,

594
00:37:29,080 --> 00:37:32,560
Speaker 1: but not the caned kind. The caned kind is this

595
00:37:32,680 --> 00:37:35,400
Speaker 1: lighting is sexy. If I'm already I don't like the lighting.

596
00:37:35,400 --> 00:37:37,920
Speaker 1: It's too sexy. I'd have sex on every one of

597
00:37:37,960 --> 00:37:40,759
Speaker 1: those platforms. Know what that's supposed to be? It's all right,

598
00:37:43,800 --> 00:37:46,839
Speaker 1: the shirts and two baggy as Slim is the only

599
00:37:46,880 --> 00:37:51,720
Speaker 1: one whose name I remember. I think one right, Yeah,

600
00:37:51,719 --> 00:37:57,200
Speaker 1: he wasn't supposed to be just dancing. Oh my god,

601
00:37:55,360 --> 00:38:04,719
Speaker 1: watch which all right? Those first of all, she's like

602
00:38:05,160 --> 00:38:08,120
Speaker 1: syrup on her. But they're not dipping them. Okay, there

603
00:38:08,120 --> 00:38:11,800
Speaker 1: they're dipping them. Oh it's whipped cream. That makes more sense.

604
00:38:12,040 --> 00:38:21,839
Speaker 1: What did you think it was? I thought I thought

605
00:38:21,840 --> 00:38:24,280
Speaker 1: it was I thought it was cream. I thought they poured.

606
00:38:25,360 --> 00:38:29,000
Speaker 1: Oh my god, that's so weird. That's not good. Just

607
00:38:29,280 --> 00:38:32,319
Speaker 1: me and four of my best friends dancing around some

608
00:38:32,360 --> 00:38:36,480
Speaker 1: peaches and it's only one girl and it's four of them. Now, well,

609
00:38:36,719 --> 00:38:42,160
Speaker 1: that's none of our business. That's uh, that's where someone

610
00:38:42,200 --> 00:38:45,399
Speaker 1: else to decide if that's okay. But the point is

611
00:38:45,680 --> 00:38:49,080
Speaker 1: we're talking about this potential game mafia. We've gone far

612
00:38:49,160 --> 00:38:51,480
Speaker 1: off the rails inside of this motherfucker. But let me

613
00:38:51,520 --> 00:38:56,320
Speaker 1: ask this because at one point, Lad, the criminal mastermind

614
00:38:56,320 --> 00:39:01,000
Speaker 1: that is Glad then interviews Too Short. Very shortly after

615
00:39:01,040 --> 00:39:04,680
Speaker 1: this interview introduces the same premise, talks to Too Short.

616
00:39:05,000 --> 00:39:09,319
Speaker 1: Too Short then says he also believes in the possibility

617
00:39:09,360 --> 00:39:12,440
Speaker 1: of a gay mafia. Specifically, he says that he was

618
00:39:12,520 --> 00:39:16,320
Speaker 1: homophobic through the entire nineties. He says, I was deeply

619
00:39:16,360 --> 00:39:20,080
Speaker 1: homophobic in the nineties, but then Ship got so gay

620
00:39:20,120 --> 00:39:22,520
Speaker 1: that it wasn't even a point to it anymore, and

621
00:39:22,600 --> 00:39:27,680
Speaker 1: he gave up and like, I guess became one before

622
00:39:28,719 --> 00:39:34,480
Speaker 1: I guess deep passion love of the game. Probably he's like, honestly,

623
00:39:34,480 --> 00:39:35,960
Speaker 1: it's just so much. I was like, I might as

624
00:39:35,960 --> 00:39:39,240
Speaker 1: well be a Republican, and he's like, shooters, shoot and uh,

625
00:39:39,320 --> 00:39:44,279
Speaker 1: here we are. So too Short claims that it's so

626
00:39:44,400 --> 00:39:48,040
Speaker 1: gay that he had to rethink his position. Yeah, he

627
00:39:48,080 --> 00:39:50,960
Speaker 1: had to resend his offer to the homophobic community. But

628
00:39:50,960 --> 00:39:53,719
Speaker 1: then you have to ask to somebody who's homophobic, what

629
00:39:54,120 --> 00:39:59,920
Speaker 1: is so gay? Like three dudes? Yeah, that's what he's like.

630
00:40:00,000 --> 00:40:01,880
Speaker 1: I was at the party. There was three of them,

631
00:40:01,920 --> 00:40:04,200
Speaker 1: and I was like, I might just looking. It's just

632
00:40:04,280 --> 00:40:10,839
Speaker 1: a mob. I mean, that's just it was a guy

633
00:40:10,840 --> 00:40:14,640
Speaker 1: and his boyfriend. Yeah, there's a whole gang of them in. Man,

634
00:40:14,800 --> 00:40:20,400
Speaker 1: this mother in with these motherfucker. I feel like I

635
00:40:20,440 --> 00:40:23,360
Speaker 1: feel like those those those people from the nineties, I

636
00:40:23,400 --> 00:40:26,560
Speaker 1: feel like they didn't get exposed to enough gay people

637
00:40:26,840 --> 00:40:31,000
Speaker 1: to really and how they are. You've never been to

638
00:40:31,080 --> 00:40:33,880
Speaker 1: a drag brunch, so you think that you don't realize

639
00:40:33,880 --> 00:40:36,759
Speaker 1: how good of a time gay people are having. Like

640
00:40:37,040 --> 00:40:40,879
Speaker 1: He's just like, it's like any it's like any any beings,

641
00:40:41,440 --> 00:40:44,360
Speaker 1: Like yeah, because you just don't know none. Yeah, Like

642
00:40:44,400 --> 00:40:46,400
Speaker 1: you know how you have when you with your with

643
00:40:46,480 --> 00:40:49,399
Speaker 1: your boys and your straight friends. If like, if your

644
00:40:49,400 --> 00:40:51,839
Speaker 1: boys tell you a story about girls they hooked up with,

645
00:40:52,239 --> 00:40:54,400
Speaker 1: and you want to hear those stories, and they'd be wild.

646
00:40:54,760 --> 00:40:57,080
Speaker 1: I feel like if you could take away the gender

647
00:40:57,239 --> 00:41:00,040
Speaker 1: or who they're hooking up with, gay guys story is

648
00:41:00,200 --> 00:41:05,560
Speaker 1: being way crazier. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, my friends left

649
00:41:05,560 --> 00:41:11,399
Speaker 1: an engagement party to go have sex across the train tracks.

650
00:41:21,320 --> 00:41:24,680
Speaker 1: I do want to introduce a little extra piece of

651
00:41:24,719 --> 00:41:27,120
Speaker 1: research that I think is going to help this conversation,

652
00:41:27,880 --> 00:41:31,600
Speaker 1: because I got to ask him myself where that the

653
00:41:31,760 --> 00:41:35,120
Speaker 1: idea of a mafia comes comes from, specifically in terms

654
00:41:35,160 --> 00:41:38,280
Speaker 1: of this community. And I actually stumbled across this Guardian

655
00:41:38,400 --> 00:41:41,640
Speaker 1: article from two thousand eight called the hidden gay life

656
00:41:41,680 --> 00:41:46,040
Speaker 1: of Macho hip hop Stars? Are we talking about the

657
00:41:46,080 --> 00:41:49,719
Speaker 1: gay thugs? No, that's not it, But I like where

658
00:41:49,760 --> 00:41:55,120
Speaker 1: your mind is at Undercover Brothers. It's not Undercover Brothers either,

659
00:41:55,239 --> 00:41:59,240
Speaker 1: In fact it was. It's not quite that. That's certainly

660
00:41:59,280 --> 00:42:02,759
Speaker 1: not the entire or focus of it, but the the suggestion.

661
00:42:03,040 --> 00:42:05,000
Speaker 1: And I want to be clear that this is clearly

662
00:42:05,040 --> 00:42:09,319
Speaker 1: written by a white person. No black person has ever

663
00:42:09,400 --> 00:42:12,759
Speaker 1: called a rapper macho, do you know what I mean? Like,

664
00:42:12,880 --> 00:42:16,040
Speaker 1: that's not a that's not a thing that we're regularly

665
00:42:16,160 --> 00:42:19,040
Speaker 1: saying about each other in a way that this is

666
00:42:19,040 --> 00:42:21,759
Speaker 1: a white article, you know what I mean? But but

667
00:42:21,880 --> 00:42:25,440
Speaker 1: the article basically talks about a book that was written

668
00:42:25,880 --> 00:42:31,439
Speaker 1: by this dude, Terrence. Where's his name? Terrence Terrence Dean

669
00:42:31,600 --> 00:42:38,480
Speaker 1: Close Tarence Howard, a former MPTV executive who's a gay man,

670
00:42:38,600 --> 00:42:42,720
Speaker 1: and who explains that there is a thriving gay subculture

671
00:42:42,880 --> 00:42:48,840
Speaker 1: in the hip hop community. Man, thriving gay subculture and everything. Right, Yeah,

672
00:42:48,880 --> 00:42:56,200
Speaker 1: I mean it is worth noting that he's saying. I

673
00:42:57,320 --> 00:43:00,000
Speaker 1: would go so far as to say, if ever there

674
00:43:00,160 --> 00:43:06,239
Speaker 1: wasn't a thriving community, it's in the monster truck driver community. Okay, guys, Yeah,

675
00:43:06,400 --> 00:43:09,520
Speaker 1: I don't think there's there's a both be the ones.

676
00:43:09,600 --> 00:43:11,840
Speaker 1: Those is the ones, like the ones where it's like

677
00:43:11,880 --> 00:43:15,360
Speaker 1: suppressed like that. Yeah, like the rappers. Yeah, like the

678
00:43:15,440 --> 00:43:16,960
Speaker 1: rap I would have quit. I would have quit the

679
00:43:16,960 --> 00:43:20,120
Speaker 1: monster truck to the rappers as far as like anti

680
00:43:20,400 --> 00:43:24,080
Speaker 1: that damn. All right, Well, you guys believe in the

681
00:43:24,080 --> 00:43:26,920
Speaker 1: monster trucks. I believe in the in the hip hop community.

682
00:43:26,960 --> 00:43:28,719
Speaker 1: I guess, you know, I mean, I believe it. I

683
00:43:28,719 --> 00:43:32,040
Speaker 1: guess I just like I feel like if that's how

684
00:43:32,239 --> 00:43:34,920
Speaker 1: we ever gonna know, I don't know, man, it's so

685
00:43:34,960 --> 00:43:38,319
Speaker 1: easy to like, especially with something like that, it's so

686
00:43:38,360 --> 00:43:41,400
Speaker 1: easy to just speculate and not have to show receipts.

687
00:43:41,760 --> 00:43:46,520
Speaker 1: So yeah, I I read this and I thought, well,

688
00:43:46,600 --> 00:43:51,440
Speaker 1: of course, there's a thriving gay subculture that's no different

689
00:43:51,480 --> 00:43:55,799
Speaker 1: than than what exists in every industry. Right. It's like

690
00:43:56,200 --> 00:43:58,520
Speaker 1: I get hired for a job, and then eventually I

691
00:43:58,600 --> 00:44:00,239
Speaker 1: work up in that job, and then I want to

692
00:44:00,320 --> 00:44:04,200
Speaker 1: hire my friends and and reach back to a community

693
00:44:04,200 --> 00:44:07,719
Speaker 1: that that feels familiar or I feel like needs my support,

694
00:44:08,080 --> 00:44:11,919
Speaker 1: and then subsequently got three back to my member. Yeah.

695
00:44:12,120 --> 00:44:14,480
Speaker 1: Now you've got a couple of gay dudes working in

696
00:44:14,520 --> 00:44:16,640
Speaker 1: the industry, But that doesn't make it a mob. It

697
00:44:16,760 --> 00:44:20,319
Speaker 1: just makes it a bunch of dudes who are having

698
00:44:20,320 --> 00:44:28,839
Speaker 1: a good time doing a job together. Yeah. I feel

699
00:44:28,880 --> 00:44:30,920
Speaker 1: like we need we need somebody to come on and

700
00:44:30,960 --> 00:44:32,960
Speaker 1: just name names. We needed somebody to come on and

701
00:44:33,000 --> 00:44:38,239
Speaker 1: be like, I'll say it gets bow Wow or whoever. Yeah, Yeah,

702
00:44:38,280 --> 00:44:41,239
Speaker 1: I mean honestly, I wouldn't be shocked at anything, and

703
00:44:41,320 --> 00:44:45,480
Speaker 1: I don't really care, like who's who's Like, I'm like,

704
00:44:46,719 --> 00:44:49,640
Speaker 1: I will say that. Orlando Brown did accuse bo Wow

705
00:44:49,680 --> 00:44:55,400
Speaker 1: of being Yeah, come on, he is a drug a

706
00:44:55,800 --> 00:45:00,319
Speaker 1: huge eating people, I believe. Yeah. He also said did

707
00:45:00,320 --> 00:45:04,760
Speaker 1: he give him the obosh, which is a children's clothing

708
00:45:04,800 --> 00:45:08,920
Speaker 1: one And maybe that's what he meant he started as

709
00:45:08,960 --> 00:45:12,839
Speaker 1: a young man in this industry. Did he gave him

710
00:45:12,880 --> 00:45:16,560
Speaker 1: some overalls? Uh? That he wore for a while and

711
00:45:16,840 --> 00:45:19,440
Speaker 1: he was in he was on drugs, so we didn't understand.

712
00:45:19,480 --> 00:45:21,239
Speaker 1: We were like, is he saying did he suck this thing?

713
00:45:21,360 --> 00:45:22,880
Speaker 1: And the man was just saying, no, he gave me

714
00:45:22,920 --> 00:45:26,080
Speaker 1: some overalls back on Mr Cooper or whatever the funk

715
00:45:26,120 --> 00:45:30,400
Speaker 1: show he was on. Yeah, well he was on a

716
00:45:30,440 --> 00:45:32,480
Speaker 1: bunch of yeah and was he He might have been

717
00:45:32,480 --> 00:45:34,920
Speaker 1: on a colley. He was on Family Matters for a

718
00:45:34,960 --> 00:45:37,840
Speaker 1: little bit here because he was on he was on

719
00:45:38,000 --> 00:45:43,160
Speaker 1: Major Pain. Yeah, he was a cute fucking kid. I

720
00:45:43,280 --> 00:45:46,120
Speaker 1: think people like Tyler the creator has kind of normalized.

721
00:45:46,280 --> 00:45:49,520
Speaker 1: You ever heard the freestyle he did on Flex? Oh yeah, yeah,

722
00:45:50,560 --> 00:45:56,840
Speaker 1: it was so funny. That was hilarious watching not just

723
00:45:57,040 --> 00:46:01,319
Speaker 1: watching it, but but the question Flex asked as soon

724
00:46:01,360 --> 00:46:08,880
Speaker 1: as he finish what met you that? It was so funny?

725
00:46:09,000 --> 00:46:10,960
Speaker 1: He was like, what what made you do that one?

726
00:46:11,480 --> 00:46:15,120
Speaker 1: He was like that man Flex with a tight something

727
00:46:15,200 --> 00:46:20,520
Speaker 1: like that, like like, bro, why would you do that

728
00:46:20,719 --> 00:46:24,400
Speaker 1: with me? And you know I don't like that? I

729
00:46:24,520 --> 00:46:27,279
Speaker 1: do you know? Funny? Because I feel like he was

730
00:46:27,360 --> 00:46:30,080
Speaker 1: coming to Flex. Tyler is so funny. He was coming

731
00:46:30,120 --> 00:46:31,840
Speaker 1: to Flex and he knew what he was gonna do.

732
00:46:32,400 --> 00:46:35,520
Speaker 1: He's like, I'm gonna set it's all gonna be gay balls,

733
00:46:35,600 --> 00:46:37,200
Speaker 1: and Flex not gonna know what to do. What he's

734
00:46:37,200 --> 00:46:40,680
Speaker 1: gonna do a lot. He's like, He's like, Tyler, I

735
00:46:40,880 --> 00:46:44,680
Speaker 1: respected you, I I wanted to treat you like a

736
00:46:44,880 --> 00:46:47,719
Speaker 1: real artist. And then you come on my show and

737
00:46:47,880 --> 00:46:51,720
Speaker 1: you know you're tapping into my homophobia, my deeply ruted

738
00:46:51,800 --> 00:46:54,200
Speaker 1: homo and he brought him into it. Like it wasn't

739
00:46:54,239 --> 00:46:56,560
Speaker 1: just Tyler being gay. He was like me and Flex,

740
00:46:57,960 --> 00:47:00,880
Speaker 1: I don't show one last thing on gay bars that

741
00:47:01,040 --> 00:47:04,800
Speaker 1: different than the bars currently. It's about having big dicks

742
00:47:04,840 --> 00:47:08,680
Speaker 1: and getting ass. Feels like it's all in this genre

743
00:47:08,760 --> 00:47:11,880
Speaker 1: to me, right that this this isn't not a Megan

744
00:47:12,400 --> 00:47:16,880
Speaker 1: Megan verse. It just is coming from a different bars

745
00:47:16,920 --> 00:47:19,839
Speaker 1: are still bars, like like some of them are like, yo,

746
00:47:20,160 --> 00:47:28,479
Speaker 1: that was gay, but that was nice. That was like yeah, yeah, yeah.

747
00:47:29,200 --> 00:47:32,680
Speaker 1: This is fascinating because in the part of what you

748
00:47:32,760 --> 00:47:35,680
Speaker 1: guys are saying about the naming names is that this

749
00:47:35,920 --> 00:47:39,400
Speaker 1: Terrence Dame dude does in fact not name any names.

750
00:47:39,760 --> 00:47:43,319
Speaker 1: He goes through the entire book basically saying like, look,

751
00:47:43,600 --> 00:47:46,640
Speaker 1: I'm not interested in outing people. I'm not interested in

752
00:47:46,800 --> 00:47:50,000
Speaker 1: sort of like, uh, you know, creating danger inside of

753
00:47:50,080 --> 00:47:52,920
Speaker 1: this community. I'm more doing this as a way of

754
00:47:53,040 --> 00:47:56,400
Speaker 1: exposing what I know to be true with hopes. And

755
00:47:56,480 --> 00:47:58,560
Speaker 1: this is the part that gets a little weird for me.

756
00:47:59,000 --> 00:48:02,080
Speaker 1: He says, with hope of encouraging one of these very

757
00:48:02,239 --> 00:48:07,400
Speaker 1: famous rappers to come forward as gay and subsequently like

758
00:48:07,719 --> 00:48:10,640
Speaker 1: admit the ship so that the community can Like, that's

759
00:48:10,719 --> 00:48:12,640
Speaker 1: kind of whack that you write a book to put

760
00:48:12,719 --> 00:48:15,479
Speaker 1: pressure on somebody else to make a move. I don't

761
00:48:15,520 --> 00:48:18,319
Speaker 1: respect that happened that had been on my college campus. Um,

762
00:48:18,440 --> 00:48:21,799
Speaker 1: they used to be there was the radio. They had

763
00:48:21,800 --> 00:48:24,239
Speaker 1: a radio station, and there was a radio show. I

764
00:48:24,280 --> 00:48:26,719
Speaker 1: remember this was like freshman year, and it was just

765
00:48:26,880 --> 00:48:29,520
Speaker 1: a gay gentleman who like he lived in the dorms

766
00:48:29,560 --> 00:48:31,279
Speaker 1: with us. We was cool, Like he was like a

767
00:48:31,360 --> 00:48:34,360
Speaker 1: cool dude or whatever. But he just decided to go

768
00:48:34,520 --> 00:48:36,200
Speaker 1: on the rate like there was like a big thing

769
00:48:36,239 --> 00:48:37,760
Speaker 1: where he was like I'm gonna go on the radio

770
00:48:38,040 --> 00:48:40,640
Speaker 1: and I'm gonna just out all the gay men on

771
00:48:40,840 --> 00:48:43,200
Speaker 1: campus that he's been with, which is kind of like

772
00:48:43,280 --> 00:48:45,760
Speaker 1: a shitty thing to do. Especially then, like it wasn't

773
00:48:45,840 --> 00:48:48,000
Speaker 1: like people if they're not ready to come out, they

774
00:48:48,040 --> 00:48:51,239
Speaker 1: should come out. Whenever he went on the radio and

775
00:48:51,320 --> 00:48:54,080
Speaker 1: he didn't name names, so like you said, like everybody's

776
00:48:54,120 --> 00:48:56,200
Speaker 1: like you didn't name any name. You could just accuse

777
00:48:56,280 --> 00:49:01,200
Speaker 1: all you want. But yeah, yeah, I think some of

778
00:49:01,280 --> 00:49:06,160
Speaker 1: that makes it feel a little bit uh attention seeking,

779
00:49:06,560 --> 00:49:09,239
Speaker 1: uh and when you're just like doing it for the

780
00:49:09,360 --> 00:49:12,360
Speaker 1: sake of doing it and not for an actual like

781
00:49:13,120 --> 00:49:16,200
Speaker 1: been direct benefit and and being like, well, I hope

782
00:49:16,280 --> 00:49:19,239
Speaker 1: some days somebody's brave enough, which maybe you know, there's

783
00:49:19,239 --> 00:49:21,640
Speaker 1: an element of that that I I can sympathize with

784
00:49:21,840 --> 00:49:24,160
Speaker 1: of like, hey, I just want to air out the

785
00:49:24,400 --> 00:49:28,200
Speaker 1: realities of this community. But I also think, you know,

786
00:49:28,640 --> 00:49:30,759
Speaker 1: what are you truly doing this for? And it it

787
00:49:31,000 --> 00:49:35,280
Speaker 1: putting it onto somebody else's shoulders doesn't feel right. Here's

788
00:49:35,360 --> 00:49:38,399
Speaker 1: my big question to both of you. Have we gone

789
00:49:38,480 --> 00:49:42,880
Speaker 1: far enough that there, if there is this giant, thriving community,

790
00:49:43,440 --> 00:49:47,279
Speaker 1: are we far enough along that there's not as much

791
00:49:47,320 --> 00:49:49,960
Speaker 1: need for it as there was maybe in the g

792
00:49:50,160 --> 00:49:55,000
Speaker 1: unit Era community, like not need for the Yeah, like

793
00:49:55,320 --> 00:49:58,520
Speaker 1: is it like is it like, are we closer to

794
00:49:58,760 --> 00:50:03,440
Speaker 1: some point where it's gonna be okay to be gay specifically.

795
00:50:03,480 --> 00:50:05,520
Speaker 1: And I feel like hip hop in sports from the

796
00:50:05,560 --> 00:50:08,600
Speaker 1: two places where it's still it's like the only two

797
00:50:08,719 --> 00:50:12,800
Speaker 1: genres of entertainment, I feel like where it's still different.

798
00:50:13,000 --> 00:50:16,520
Speaker 1: I don't know. I think the like I think the

799
00:50:16,640 --> 00:50:19,800
Speaker 1: Little nas X of it All did not do like

800
00:50:20,200 --> 00:50:24,040
Speaker 1: make some major advancement in terms of like the embracing

801
00:50:24,200 --> 00:50:27,120
Speaker 1: of gay in hip hop. But I do think like

802
00:50:27,280 --> 00:50:31,680
Speaker 1: the Isaiah Rashad ship did. I think like and unfortunately

803
00:50:31,760 --> 00:50:33,960
Speaker 1: it happened in a really icky way where he was

804
00:50:34,040 --> 00:50:37,400
Speaker 1: outed against this will and like this video was released.

805
00:50:37,400 --> 00:50:39,759
Speaker 1: All of that's fucked up. But I do think that

806
00:50:40,080 --> 00:50:44,080
Speaker 1: that nigga just be wrapping, rapping and not doing anything

807
00:50:44,160 --> 00:50:47,360
Speaker 1: that they're going to realign is like pop shit or

808
00:50:47,480 --> 00:50:50,560
Speaker 1: weirdo ship or whatever the funk it is. So it's like, now,

809
00:50:50,640 --> 00:50:54,160
Speaker 1: if he can rap, rap and suck dick, then we

810
00:50:54,400 --> 00:50:57,919
Speaker 1: have to start treating this as a as a part

811
00:50:57,960 --> 00:50:59,879
Speaker 1: of our community and not just sort of a sub

812
00:51:00,120 --> 00:51:02,920
Speaker 1: sect of it. It's also not I think I think

813
00:51:03,000 --> 00:51:05,800
Speaker 1: if sometimes even we today, sometimes I feel like there's

814
00:51:05,840 --> 00:51:08,440
Speaker 1: like this coded, coded language about it. Is if it's

815
00:51:08,560 --> 00:51:11,239
Speaker 1: like some kind of impediment and I think that's a

816
00:51:11,280 --> 00:51:13,399
Speaker 1: lot of the problem, like even as just now being

817
00:51:13,480 --> 00:51:16,479
Speaker 1: like it's nice before it's gay. Yeah, but gay isn't

818
00:51:16,520 --> 00:51:19,239
Speaker 1: like a problem. I think that's like so often we

819
00:51:19,320 --> 00:51:22,480
Speaker 1: speak about it is like as if it's like it's

820
00:51:22,520 --> 00:51:26,759
Speaker 1: like something holding them back, especially from being talented in

821
00:51:26,960 --> 00:51:28,960
Speaker 1: hip hop, you know. And I think that I don't

822
00:51:28,960 --> 00:51:31,000
Speaker 1: know how to fix that. I think it's like a

823
00:51:31,360 --> 00:51:34,600
Speaker 1: loaded question because it's like if you think about it's like,

824
00:51:34,600 --> 00:51:36,920
Speaker 1: all right, we well black people, we had like a

825
00:51:37,000 --> 00:51:39,600
Speaker 1: black president. Does that mean there there's no need for

826
00:51:39,719 --> 00:51:42,719
Speaker 1: like you know, all types of like black civil rights

827
00:51:42,800 --> 00:51:44,800
Speaker 1: and polierment groups and h b c u s and

828
00:51:45,120 --> 00:51:47,120
Speaker 1: all types of like quote unquote things you might label

829
00:51:47,160 --> 00:51:50,480
Speaker 1: as like a mafia type of like thing, and no

830
00:51:50,880 --> 00:51:53,040
Speaker 1: like because it doesn't mean anything, so like the same

831
00:51:53,120 --> 00:51:56,640
Speaker 1: thing I consider we're like the gay lgbt Q community.

832
00:51:56,680 --> 00:52:01,640
Speaker 1: It's like I don't know, like equality takes a long time, right, Yeah.

833
00:52:01,800 --> 00:52:05,520
Speaker 1: And to that point, I think we're we're talking about

834
00:52:06,800 --> 00:52:09,280
Speaker 1: and we've sort of said this already. We're talking about

835
00:52:09,400 --> 00:52:13,439
Speaker 1: individuals trying to advance for themselves, and if they happen

836
00:52:13,480 --> 00:52:16,560
Speaker 1: to be in positions of power, that's just because that's

837
00:52:16,560 --> 00:52:19,480
Speaker 1: where their jobs are, where their lives have them, not

838
00:52:19,680 --> 00:52:24,719
Speaker 1: necessarily because they have like some some devious mastermind kind

839
00:52:24,760 --> 00:52:29,680
Speaker 1: of playing happening right right right, Well, boys, I think

840
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Speaker 1: it started, it started right. I know how people don't

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Speaker 1: listen and shut it off? Could you? Could you put

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Speaker 1: that disclaimer at the front, like, listen to the whole episode.

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Speaker 1: You gotta make it to the end. Yeah. I think

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Speaker 1: we got a good audience. I think that I think

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Speaker 1: they tend to be like man that our audience is

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Speaker 1: terribly on board for all the stupidity that we spread

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Speaker 1: every week. I think you'll be fine. We we haven't

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Speaker 1: run into any issues yet, and you ain't the work

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Speaker 1: we've ever had, I assure you. But no, this was great.

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Speaker 1: And could you tell the people where they can find

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Speaker 1: you what cool ship you have going on? Oh yeah,

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Speaker 1: for sure. My Instagram is just my name is Ian

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Speaker 1: Lara Live on Instagram. That's my website, Ian Lara live

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Speaker 1: dot com. I got a tour coming up. I'm going

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Speaker 1: back on the road next year. And my special just

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Speaker 1: came out and screaming on HBO Max is called in

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Speaker 1: Lara Romantic Comedy. Hell yeah, go watch the special. I

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Speaker 1: watched it today. It's great. I she she directed that

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Speaker 1: ship directed it. Yeah, yeah, that's tight. So fun and

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Speaker 1: and bory. You want to tell the people where they

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Speaker 1: can find you, cool guy jokes eight seven on Instagram.

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Speaker 1: You can see me at the here after December three

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Speaker 1: in Seattle, December four Helium Comedy Club in Portland. Oh.

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Speaker 1: And then if you are in Las Vegas November through Christmas,

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Speaker 1: I'm playing the Jimmy Clip Chimel Club because you know,

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Speaker 1: it seemed like a good way to end out the year.

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Speaker 1: That a whole month now just yea November through Christmas

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Speaker 1: and I was like, I don't like I don't like

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Speaker 1: stand up that much. No, that's like six shows. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: and then just you know, be good to yourselves. If

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Speaker 1: you are gay, you know, join the mafia because their

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Speaker 1: strength and numbers. Yeah, mount up. If you can mount up,

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Speaker 1: it's time regulators mount a friend of the family. I

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Speaker 1: want to be. I want to family. Yeah yeah yeah,

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Speaker 1: let me be like if you guys are the Pink Mafia,

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Speaker 1: let me be your crimson as always. You can find

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Speaker 1: me at Lankston Kerman on all platforms, and if you

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Speaker 1: want to send us to your your own drops your

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00:55:01,400 --> 00:55:04,000
Speaker 1: own conspiracy theories. If you want to accuse us of

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Speaker 1: being deeply homophobic and not understanding the game mafia, you

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Speaker 1: can send all of that to my Mama pod at

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Speaker 1: gmail dot com. We would love to hear from you. Otherwise,

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Speaker 1: that's it. Bye, bitch, My Crown chips in your rails.

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Speaker 1: Qualabas are racist. Your host lay mostly money, very turkey stuff.

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Speaker 1: I can't tell me