1 00:00:00,840 --> 00:00:03,640 Speaker 1: Welcome to the Tutor Dixon Podcast. Today. We are going 2 00:00:03,680 --> 00:00:06,880 Speaker 1: to talk a lot about young men right now. That 3 00:00:07,080 --> 00:00:10,280 Speaker 1: is the question on both sides of the political aisle 4 00:00:10,440 --> 00:00:13,160 Speaker 1: is how do we talk to young men. There has 5 00:00:13,240 --> 00:00:16,000 Speaker 1: been this push to kind of demonize young men and 6 00:00:16,120 --> 00:00:19,799 Speaker 1: almost say that if you're going to say positive things 7 00:00:19,800 --> 00:00:22,520 Speaker 1: about young women, then you have to say negative things 8 00:00:22,520 --> 00:00:26,200 Speaker 1: about young young men. And now politically it seems like 9 00:00:26,239 --> 00:00:29,520 Speaker 1: the world is going well, how do we win back 10 00:00:29,680 --> 00:00:32,280 Speaker 1: young men? So I have an expert on young men 11 00:00:32,320 --> 00:00:36,080 Speaker 1: with me, Delano Squires. He is a research fellow for 12 00:00:36,159 --> 00:00:41,640 Speaker 1: the Heritage Foundation Center for Human Flourishing. So tell us, Delano, 13 00:00:41,720 --> 00:00:44,320 Speaker 1: how do we make young men flourish in this country? 14 00:00:45,440 --> 00:00:47,440 Speaker 2: Well, thank you for having me Twitter. I think the 15 00:00:47,479 --> 00:00:52,600 Speaker 2: first thing is to acknowledge that men and women need 16 00:00:52,640 --> 00:00:57,880 Speaker 2: one another. We cannot have a functioning society or culture 17 00:00:58,720 --> 00:01:03,680 Speaker 2: if our politics are bills on fomenting disdain and discord 18 00:01:03,720 --> 00:01:08,120 Speaker 2: between the sexes. Right, so the gender war politics are 19 00:01:08,160 --> 00:01:11,560 Speaker 2: failing politics. It doesn't matter if they are coming from 20 00:01:11,680 --> 00:01:15,720 Speaker 2: sort of the Andrew Tait redpill right or the blue 21 00:01:15,720 --> 00:01:20,360 Speaker 2: haired feminists left. Either way you go that those types 22 00:01:20,400 --> 00:01:22,720 Speaker 2: of politics are failing politics. So I think the first 23 00:01:22,760 --> 00:01:24,760 Speaker 2: thing is to acknowledge that that, you know, men and 24 00:01:24,800 --> 00:01:27,920 Speaker 2: women need one another in very fundamental ways. I think 25 00:01:27,959 --> 00:01:30,039 Speaker 2: the second thing is to acknowledged that for the better 26 00:01:30,040 --> 00:01:33,640 Speaker 2: part of about sixty years, the political left has been 27 00:01:33,680 --> 00:01:37,200 Speaker 2: demonizing men and in some ways, in many ways, have 28 00:01:37,240 --> 00:01:41,720 Speaker 2: gone from fighting sexism to fighting masculinity itself. So I 29 00:01:41,720 --> 00:01:44,880 Speaker 2: think acknowledging where we have gone wrong and then being 30 00:01:44,959 --> 00:01:48,559 Speaker 2: able to say, Okay, now, let's let's look at young 31 00:01:48,600 --> 00:01:52,680 Speaker 2: men first as individuals, but then let's ask ourselves whether 32 00:01:52,720 --> 00:01:56,400 Speaker 2: there are whether there are issues that that young men 33 00:01:56,480 --> 00:02:00,400 Speaker 2: and boys and even adult males are facing that are 34 00:02:00,400 --> 00:02:05,200 Speaker 2: being caused by public policy, that are being exacerbated by 35 00:02:05,200 --> 00:02:08,240 Speaker 2: social norms, and if so, what are some ways that 36 00:02:08,280 --> 00:02:11,240 Speaker 2: we can roll those things back and make progress as 37 00:02:11,240 --> 00:02:12,200 Speaker 2: we move into the future. 38 00:02:12,840 --> 00:02:15,440 Speaker 1: You know, you said something about the far left and 39 00:02:15,480 --> 00:02:18,880 Speaker 1: the far right and how they've come after men in 40 00:02:18,919 --> 00:02:22,320 Speaker 1: different ways, and I'm almost I used to be the 41 00:02:22,320 --> 00:02:24,480 Speaker 1: person that was like, oh my gosh, this is radical, 42 00:02:24,480 --> 00:02:26,000 Speaker 1: and this is going out there and it's getting into 43 00:02:26,040 --> 00:02:27,919 Speaker 1: the minds of young people, and this is radical on 44 00:02:27,960 --> 00:02:29,960 Speaker 1: the other side, and it's also doing the same thing. 45 00:02:30,400 --> 00:02:33,639 Speaker 1: Now I'm a little bit worried about the I don't 46 00:02:33,680 --> 00:02:36,360 Speaker 1: know how to describe it, like the empathetic center where 47 00:02:36,480 --> 00:02:40,120 Speaker 1: it's like, you know, we as women are told you 48 00:02:40,120 --> 00:02:41,960 Speaker 1: can do it all by yourself, you don't need a man. 49 00:02:42,080 --> 00:02:46,400 Speaker 1: It's not so much that you consciously think men are bad. 50 00:02:46,600 --> 00:02:51,200 Speaker 1: It's that you're you are elevating yourself above anything else 51 00:02:51,280 --> 00:02:54,200 Speaker 1: and saying I can do this all alone. I want 52 00:02:54,200 --> 00:02:56,839 Speaker 1: to focus on me. You had someone you had an 53 00:02:56,880 --> 00:02:59,800 Speaker 1: interview on your Twitter with a woman. It wasn't it 54 00:02:59,840 --> 00:03:01,840 Speaker 1: was someone else that was interviewing here. It was a 55 00:03:01,840 --> 00:03:05,200 Speaker 1: woman named doctor Cheyenne Bryant, and she was talking about 56 00:03:05,240 --> 00:03:09,840 Speaker 1: not being in menopause yet She's forty. I'm not in menopause. 57 00:03:09,960 --> 00:03:12,040 Speaker 1: I'm still having a period every month. I can still 58 00:03:12,080 --> 00:03:15,000 Speaker 1: have a baby. And that was like a celebration. I 59 00:03:15,040 --> 00:03:18,080 Speaker 1: think it's an interesting I had my youngest when I 60 00:03:18,120 --> 00:03:20,000 Speaker 1: was thirty six, so my oldest I had when I 61 00:03:20,040 --> 00:03:22,480 Speaker 1: was thirty two. It's one of those things that once 62 00:03:22,560 --> 00:03:24,840 Speaker 1: you do it and you are in your thirties and 63 00:03:24,880 --> 00:03:27,560 Speaker 1: you have your first child, you go, why did I 64 00:03:27,600 --> 00:03:30,400 Speaker 1: not do this earlier? And you start to see how 65 00:03:30,520 --> 00:03:33,800 Speaker 1: age affects your life in a major way, and I 66 00:03:33,919 --> 00:03:36,600 Speaker 1: see this now. Just talked to a friend last night 67 00:03:36,600 --> 00:03:38,560 Speaker 1: and said, oh, one of our friends is pregnant at 68 00:03:38,600 --> 00:03:41,800 Speaker 1: forty eight. And I think you don't know what you 69 00:03:41,880 --> 00:03:44,320 Speaker 1: don't know, But we as a society have not been 70 00:03:44,440 --> 00:03:47,680 Speaker 1: fair to telling people this should happen young, It should 71 00:03:47,720 --> 00:03:50,400 Speaker 1: happen together. You shouldn't say your career is more important 72 00:03:50,440 --> 00:03:52,360 Speaker 1: than your family, because at the end of life, it's 73 00:03:52,400 --> 00:03:54,320 Speaker 1: your family that is there for you. 74 00:03:55,400 --> 00:03:57,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, and Nyessa, I think I posted that 75 00:03:57,960 --> 00:03:59,760 Speaker 2: clip you know, yes, Sara a few days ago, and 76 00:03:59,800 --> 00:04:03,280 Speaker 2: she she was making this point that now she's ready 77 00:04:03,320 --> 00:04:07,640 Speaker 2: to have kids, and you know, she's more financially stable 78 00:04:07,680 --> 00:04:09,400 Speaker 2: than she would have been, let's say, in her twenties 79 00:04:09,480 --> 00:04:12,200 Speaker 2: or even in her thirties. Part of my commentary is 80 00:04:12,200 --> 00:04:14,600 Speaker 2: that I didn't hear her mention a husband in this 81 00:04:15,520 --> 00:04:18,680 Speaker 2: sort of arrangement. So my sense is that her only 82 00:04:18,720 --> 00:04:22,599 Speaker 2: interests in men is in their reproductive material. And I 83 00:04:22,600 --> 00:04:25,160 Speaker 2: think part of, you know, going back to the question 84 00:04:25,200 --> 00:04:27,560 Speaker 2: you ask, part of the reason that we are in 85 00:04:27,600 --> 00:04:31,720 Speaker 2: the situation we are right now is because across society, 86 00:04:32,240 --> 00:04:36,920 Speaker 2: from multiple different institutions, we have been selling the notion 87 00:04:37,000 --> 00:04:41,120 Speaker 2: that men are actually that society actually does not need men, 88 00:04:41,600 --> 00:04:45,119 Speaker 2: that families do not need men. So you know, whether 89 00:04:45,360 --> 00:04:48,520 Speaker 2: it's women proudly declaring, well, I don't need a man 90 00:04:49,120 --> 00:04:52,080 Speaker 2: right in order to have a family, I can do 91 00:04:52,120 --> 00:04:54,880 Speaker 2: it all by myself, particularly if I have enough resources, 92 00:04:54,880 --> 00:04:58,479 Speaker 2: I can do by myself. So in that sense, men 93 00:04:58,560 --> 00:05:03,000 Speaker 2: become almost like appendix of the family, nice to have, 94 00:05:03,080 --> 00:05:06,160 Speaker 2: but not particularly necessary. Whereas we think of mom as 95 00:05:06,160 --> 00:05:09,160 Speaker 2: the heart and soul. So the idea that we could 96 00:05:09,200 --> 00:05:14,560 Speaker 2: have a functioning society with whatever some significant percentage of 97 00:05:14,600 --> 00:05:20,240 Speaker 2: women who are disaffected, disconnected, have sort of tenuous relationships 98 00:05:20,279 --> 00:05:22,600 Speaker 2: with their children, everyone will see them as a crisis. 99 00:05:22,600 --> 00:05:25,280 Speaker 2: But when it comes to men, we say, well, everybody 100 00:05:25,279 --> 00:05:27,360 Speaker 2: can function in the same ways that they have before. 101 00:05:27,839 --> 00:05:31,680 Speaker 2: And I think that is a colossal mistake. And as 102 00:05:31,680 --> 00:05:34,520 Speaker 2: I said, part of this is public policy. I mean, 103 00:05:34,520 --> 00:05:38,280 Speaker 2: it starts extremely young, when boys are in school and 104 00:05:38,600 --> 00:05:41,839 Speaker 2: we expect them to behave and do all the things 105 00:05:41,920 --> 00:05:45,440 Speaker 2: that girls do. And anyone who has children, particularly if 106 00:05:45,480 --> 00:05:47,080 Speaker 2: you have one of each, I have four, I have 107 00:05:47,120 --> 00:05:50,760 Speaker 2: two of each. You can see the differences in children 108 00:05:51,240 --> 00:05:54,480 Speaker 2: in boys and girls, and how they play, and how 109 00:05:54,520 --> 00:05:58,440 Speaker 2: they communicate, and how they interact socially with their peers 110 00:05:58,480 --> 00:06:01,960 Speaker 2: and how they interact with their parents. You can see 111 00:06:02,000 --> 00:06:04,920 Speaker 2: those sex differences coming out at a fairly young age, right, 112 00:06:05,360 --> 00:06:08,719 Speaker 2: my sons who are seven and five, there was a period, 113 00:06:08,800 --> 00:06:11,080 Speaker 2: there was a season in life where whenever I came home. 114 00:06:11,200 --> 00:06:13,760 Speaker 3: They would they wouldn't just run and hug me, they 115 00:06:14,000 --> 00:06:14,800 Speaker 3: would head butt me. 116 00:06:15,520 --> 00:06:18,680 Speaker 2: They would they would play fight, they would slap, they 117 00:06:18,760 --> 00:06:21,440 Speaker 2: would want that type of rough housing. My daughters have 118 00:06:21,600 --> 00:06:24,960 Speaker 2: never done that. My daughters aren't as a as a 119 00:06:24,960 --> 00:06:28,360 Speaker 2: matter of sort of communication, don't head butt me right 120 00:06:28,440 --> 00:06:30,280 Speaker 2: and say, okay, dad is home, let let me let 121 00:06:30,320 --> 00:06:32,720 Speaker 2: me bang into his leg, because that's just not how 122 00:06:33,000 --> 00:06:35,800 Speaker 2: they operate. So I think part of why we have 123 00:06:35,880 --> 00:06:41,760 Speaker 2: this problem is because we have accepted quietly the idea 124 00:06:42,120 --> 00:06:47,440 Speaker 2: of sort of this this androgis in this, this sort 125 00:06:47,440 --> 00:06:51,520 Speaker 2: of cultural androgyny, that men and women are exactly the same. 126 00:06:52,279 --> 00:06:55,960 Speaker 2: So so we just have problems recognizing that men and 127 00:06:56,000 --> 00:06:58,680 Speaker 2: women are equal in dignity and worth but different in 128 00:06:58,760 --> 00:07:02,039 Speaker 2: form and function. And until we're willing to acknowledge that, 129 00:07:02,160 --> 00:07:04,120 Speaker 2: we're going to continue to have some of these problems. 130 00:07:04,240 --> 00:07:07,839 Speaker 1: Well, I think culture has really compounded this issue because 131 00:07:07,880 --> 00:07:11,680 Speaker 1: I just saw a survey that said that a majority 132 00:07:11,880 --> 00:07:15,360 Speaker 1: of men say they would be fine with thee their 133 00:07:15,720 --> 00:07:18,360 Speaker 1: wife being the main bread winner in the house. They 134 00:07:18,360 --> 00:07:20,960 Speaker 1: would be fine being the stay at home dad. They 135 00:07:21,920 --> 00:07:25,840 Speaker 1: look at this as a success, a successful relationship. And 136 00:07:25,920 --> 00:07:28,640 Speaker 1: I'm not saying that you can't be that, but I 137 00:07:28,680 --> 00:07:32,520 Speaker 1: do believe that there is there are different roles. Just 138 00:07:32,600 --> 00:07:35,240 Speaker 1: like you said that the young boy is different when 139 00:07:35,320 --> 00:07:37,560 Speaker 1: dad comes in the house than the young girl. I 140 00:07:37,600 --> 00:07:40,960 Speaker 1: also think that raising the family and being the one 141 00:07:41,000 --> 00:07:43,480 Speaker 1: that is making lunch and teaching reading, there is a 142 00:07:43,560 --> 00:07:46,880 Speaker 1: difference between mom and dad. And we have pushed this 143 00:07:46,960 --> 00:07:49,800 Speaker 1: like there's no difference, there's no difference. Well that's that's 144 00:07:49,840 --> 00:07:53,440 Speaker 1: simply not true. But we've also created a society of 145 00:07:53,520 --> 00:07:58,200 Speaker 1: men who have decided I will let my wife go 146 00:07:58,440 --> 00:08:02,680 Speaker 1: do the main breadwdding do the hard job, be the executive, 147 00:08:03,080 --> 00:08:05,840 Speaker 1: and I'll stay home. And what happens at the house 148 00:08:05,960 --> 00:08:08,840 Speaker 1: is much different. And people can complain to me that 149 00:08:08,880 --> 00:08:10,800 Speaker 1: this is not true, it is true. What happens at 150 00:08:10,800 --> 00:08:12,840 Speaker 1: the house is different than what would have happened with 151 00:08:12,920 --> 00:08:15,960 Speaker 1: the house with mom being there. Dad is very different 152 00:08:16,040 --> 00:08:18,720 Speaker 1: the way he interacts with the kids when it comes 153 00:08:18,720 --> 00:08:22,040 Speaker 1: to being stayed home all day. We also have this 154 00:08:22,160 --> 00:08:25,600 Speaker 1: society you mentioned it of little boys can't be little 155 00:08:25,640 --> 00:08:29,000 Speaker 1: boys in school, and it is this push that is 156 00:08:29,080 --> 00:08:32,800 Speaker 1: compounded by a lack of parenting at home, but also 157 00:08:32,920 --> 00:08:35,560 Speaker 1: this push of teachers going to the house and saying, 158 00:08:37,240 --> 00:08:40,360 Speaker 1: you gotta medicate. We've seen success with this with other kids. 159 00:08:40,360 --> 00:08:42,480 Speaker 1: And I'm not ripping on teachers here. I think that 160 00:08:42,559 --> 00:08:47,000 Speaker 1: this is a cultural issue where we have stopped telling 161 00:08:47,080 --> 00:08:49,640 Speaker 1: kids you have to behave to a certain extent in 162 00:08:49,679 --> 00:08:52,800 Speaker 1: the classroom, understanding though that boys are going to be 163 00:08:52,880 --> 00:08:55,360 Speaker 1: more active, they're going to have trouble sitting in their seats, 164 00:08:55,880 --> 00:09:00,360 Speaker 1: and compounding that with just medicate them and make them 165 00:09:00,440 --> 00:09:03,359 Speaker 1: zombies and let the classroom be calm. 166 00:09:03,520 --> 00:09:03,800 Speaker 3: Yeah. 167 00:09:03,920 --> 00:09:09,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, I think you make some fantastic points, and this 168 00:09:09,400 --> 00:09:14,440 Speaker 2: point about breadwinning, so call it. Fifty years ago, about 169 00:09:14,440 --> 00:09:17,080 Speaker 2: eighty five percent of men were either the primary or 170 00:09:17,240 --> 00:09:22,040 Speaker 2: sole breadwinner. Today the household is much more egalitarian. That's 171 00:09:22,040 --> 00:09:25,320 Speaker 2: a down to about fifty five percent. I believe about 172 00:09:25,520 --> 00:09:30,040 Speaker 2: twenty nine percent of households have sort of a shared 173 00:09:30,080 --> 00:09:33,600 Speaker 2: breadwinner model. And many people realize is that in a 174 00:09:33,600 --> 00:09:36,280 Speaker 2: lot of places it takes or at least it feels 175 00:09:36,320 --> 00:09:39,080 Speaker 2: like it takes two incomes in order to survive. And 176 00:09:39,080 --> 00:09:42,800 Speaker 2: then the remaining number of women are sole breadwinner. So 177 00:09:43,040 --> 00:09:47,040 Speaker 2: that's still a fairly small percentage. But I think a 178 00:09:47,080 --> 00:09:50,600 Speaker 2: couple of things have happened. One is that sort of 179 00:09:50,600 --> 00:09:55,720 Speaker 2: in the post second wave feminist world, the vocations of 180 00:09:56,800 --> 00:10:03,400 Speaker 2: mother and wife have been degraded across the culture. So 181 00:10:03,440 --> 00:10:06,240 Speaker 2: the way I say it is this, our society celebrates 182 00:10:06,280 --> 00:10:10,040 Speaker 2: any woman who runs a large, complex organization, unless it's 183 00:10:10,040 --> 00:10:12,880 Speaker 2: our home. And we love women who dedicate. 184 00:10:12,559 --> 00:10:15,920 Speaker 1: With that is such a good point. 185 00:10:15,559 --> 00:10:18,720 Speaker 2: And and and and likewise, we love women who dedicate 186 00:10:18,760 --> 00:10:22,080 Speaker 2: themselves to training the next generation, unless it's their own children. 187 00:10:22,720 --> 00:10:24,840 Speaker 2: So so so part of it is that the fight 188 00:10:24,920 --> 00:10:28,240 Speaker 2: of the Betty Ferdan's and the Glorious Steinems wasn't just 189 00:10:28,720 --> 00:10:32,160 Speaker 2: or we need more access to education and and you know, 190 00:10:32,440 --> 00:10:36,120 Speaker 2: the economic opportunity for women. It was the home itself 191 00:10:36,240 --> 00:10:39,360 Speaker 2: is a prison, and we need to free and liberate 192 00:10:39,400 --> 00:10:42,360 Speaker 2: women from the home. And and what that does is 193 00:10:42,440 --> 00:10:46,960 Speaker 2: again it devalues those vocations, and it devalues the purpose. 194 00:10:46,640 --> 00:10:47,360 Speaker 3: Of the home. 195 00:10:48,400 --> 00:10:52,960 Speaker 2: So the root word for economy is a Greek word 196 00:10:53,600 --> 00:10:58,320 Speaker 2: economia that talks about the household. So it's actually about 197 00:10:58,320 --> 00:11:02,760 Speaker 2: the household, and the household should be in ideally a 198 00:11:02,840 --> 00:11:10,120 Speaker 2: hub of productive, economic, spiritual, educational, social, and relational activity, 199 00:11:10,160 --> 00:11:11,520 Speaker 2: but for a lot of people it's just a place 200 00:11:11,520 --> 00:11:15,400 Speaker 2: to lay your head. So my thing is that both 201 00:11:15,480 --> 00:11:19,280 Speaker 2: men and women need to understand that generally speaking, we 202 00:11:19,960 --> 00:11:23,520 Speaker 2: have so we gravitate to particular roles because I believe 203 00:11:23,520 --> 00:11:27,000 Speaker 2: that that's how we were designed by God. And what 204 00:11:27,040 --> 00:11:29,640 Speaker 2: we've been doing for sixty plus years is fighting against 205 00:11:29,640 --> 00:11:34,040 Speaker 2: our nature. And that's why everybody seems so frustrated, because 206 00:11:34,080 --> 00:11:38,480 Speaker 2: we've rejected the idea that there are particular roles that 207 00:11:38,520 --> 00:11:40,559 Speaker 2: we are supposed to fill. And one of the things 208 00:11:40,559 --> 00:11:44,080 Speaker 2: that I say, nobody is truly a feminist. And I'll 209 00:11:44,080 --> 00:11:48,160 Speaker 2: give you an example. If something goes bump in the night, 210 00:11:48,920 --> 00:11:51,280 Speaker 2: right at two in the morning, and I turn over 211 00:11:51,320 --> 00:11:54,280 Speaker 2: to my wife and I say, look, last time this happened, 212 00:11:54,360 --> 00:11:57,160 Speaker 2: I went but you know me, I'm a good male 213 00:11:57,200 --> 00:11:58,319 Speaker 2: feminist ally. 214 00:12:00,080 --> 00:12:01,360 Speaker 3: So this time I'll let you go. 215 00:12:01,880 --> 00:12:02,200 Speaker 1: Right. 216 00:12:03,440 --> 00:12:06,120 Speaker 3: She would be on the phone to a divorced lawyer 217 00:12:06,120 --> 00:12:06,800 Speaker 3: by tomorrow. 218 00:12:08,280 --> 00:12:12,160 Speaker 2: And part of this problem going back to men, is 219 00:12:12,200 --> 00:12:16,079 Speaker 2: that the societal expectations for men have been fairly inelastic 220 00:12:16,120 --> 00:12:19,400 Speaker 2: for sixty years. It always starts with the same two 221 00:12:19,480 --> 00:12:23,800 Speaker 2: p's for everybody across the board. It's men are supposed 222 00:12:23,840 --> 00:12:31,320 Speaker 2: to provide and to protect, now across sort of social norms. 223 00:12:31,600 --> 00:12:34,080 Speaker 2: Sometimes people don't want to acknowledge that, and even some 224 00:12:34,160 --> 00:12:36,439 Speaker 2: men are saying, you know, wh I'm more than a paycheck, 225 00:12:36,440 --> 00:12:39,960 Speaker 2: which is true, but that's the baseline. The problem is 226 00:12:40,040 --> 00:12:43,280 Speaker 2: when you try to enter into a dance and one 227 00:12:43,320 --> 00:12:47,480 Speaker 2: person knows, or let's say a song and one person 228 00:12:47,559 --> 00:12:49,880 Speaker 2: knows what part they're supposed to be singing, and the 229 00:12:49,920 --> 00:12:52,160 Speaker 2: other person it says, I don't want to be held 230 00:12:52,160 --> 00:12:55,120 Speaker 2: down to any particular part because if you ask, if 231 00:12:55,160 --> 00:12:58,520 Speaker 2: you ask, if anyone men or women, okay, men are 232 00:12:58,520 --> 00:13:01,200 Speaker 2: supposed to provide and protect, what are women supposed to do? 233 00:13:02,000 --> 00:13:04,120 Speaker 2: Then you're going to get people said, well, I don't 234 00:13:04,120 --> 00:13:05,880 Speaker 2: want to say what women are supposed to do because 235 00:13:05,880 --> 00:13:08,679 Speaker 2: I don't want to put boundaries around that. And this 236 00:13:08,720 --> 00:13:12,520 Speaker 2: is where you have this discord between the sexes. And 237 00:13:12,760 --> 00:13:18,480 Speaker 2: it's frustrating because oftentimes modern women are looking for traditional men, 238 00:13:19,600 --> 00:13:25,080 Speaker 2: but don't expect men to want them to play traditional roles. 239 00:13:25,880 --> 00:13:28,280 Speaker 2: And this is part of the disconnect between the sexes. 240 00:13:28,440 --> 00:13:31,120 Speaker 1: Let's take a quick commercial break. We'll continue next on 241 00:13:31,160 --> 00:13:37,120 Speaker 1: the Tutor Dixon Podcast. So what I will say is 242 00:13:37,320 --> 00:13:42,600 Speaker 1: I think that too often, this modern woman role, what 243 00:13:42,640 --> 00:13:44,760 Speaker 1: women aren't coming out and saying the women who have 244 00:13:44,880 --> 00:13:47,400 Speaker 1: gone through this and they have kids and they are 245 00:13:47,559 --> 00:13:51,320 Speaker 1: the executive and they are married, they're not saying, well, 246 00:13:51,440 --> 00:13:56,000 Speaker 1: that traditional role still falls on me. So ultimately, I've 247 00:13:56,080 --> 00:13:59,480 Speaker 1: piled on a massive amount of work and we're stressed 248 00:13:59,559 --> 00:14:01,960 Speaker 1: and were hired, and we are not giving our best 249 00:14:02,040 --> 00:14:04,920 Speaker 1: to our kids because we were overworked. I saw something 250 00:14:05,280 --> 00:14:07,640 Speaker 1: just a couple days ago, and it was one of 251 00:14:07,640 --> 00:14:10,440 Speaker 1: these things on social media where a man said, my 252 00:14:10,559 --> 00:14:13,680 Speaker 1: wife came to me and she said, it's December. I'm 253 00:14:13,760 --> 00:14:16,240 Speaker 1: so stressed out. I'm so afraid I'm not going to 254 00:14:16,280 --> 00:14:19,000 Speaker 1: get Christmas done. And he said, it'll work out. It's 255 00:14:19,000 --> 00:14:21,720 Speaker 1: no big deal. It always works out. It'll work out. 256 00:14:21,800 --> 00:14:24,800 Speaker 1: It's no big deal. And he said, I totally ignored 257 00:14:25,240 --> 00:14:27,280 Speaker 1: what she said because I was like, once we get 258 00:14:27,280 --> 00:14:30,200 Speaker 1: to Christmas, it'll happen. And he said, on Christmas Eve, 259 00:14:30,280 --> 00:14:34,040 Speaker 1: I came downstairs and I saw her feverishly wrapping all 260 00:14:34,040 --> 00:14:37,720 Speaker 1: the gifts by herself stressed. It was two am. I 261 00:14:37,760 --> 00:14:40,360 Speaker 1: had been asleep. I came down and he said, in 262 00:14:40,400 --> 00:14:44,720 Speaker 1: that moment, I realized what I had done. I had said, 263 00:14:45,120 --> 00:14:48,000 Speaker 1: it'll work itself out. Christmas will come, no matter what 264 00:14:48,320 --> 00:14:50,920 Speaker 1: he said. And then in that moment, I realized, my 265 00:14:51,040 --> 00:14:55,280 Speaker 1: wife is Christmas. And it hit me so hard because 266 00:14:55,320 --> 00:14:58,400 Speaker 1: I was like, this is what women won't say because 267 00:14:58,400 --> 00:15:01,080 Speaker 1: we are afraid to admit it is so hard. We 268 00:15:01,120 --> 00:15:04,840 Speaker 1: are afraid to admit we are overwhelmed, we are barely 269 00:15:04,920 --> 00:15:08,760 Speaker 1: hanging on. But this mom was the perfect example of 270 00:15:08,880 --> 00:15:11,800 Speaker 1: the wife who is working, who is getting the lunch 271 00:15:11,880 --> 00:15:14,120 Speaker 1: is made, who's driving the kids to school, and at 272 00:15:14,120 --> 00:15:16,240 Speaker 1: the end of the night she texts the kids in 273 00:15:16,440 --> 00:15:19,680 Speaker 1: and then she makes Christmas happen, which seems like a 274 00:15:19,800 --> 00:15:22,040 Speaker 1: crazy when you have four You have four kids. I 275 00:15:22,040 --> 00:15:24,880 Speaker 1: have four kids. You know that that night before you 276 00:15:24,920 --> 00:15:27,800 Speaker 1: are like, ah, I have just a few hours, you know. 277 00:15:28,440 --> 00:15:33,320 Speaker 1: And that is just a example of what a woman 278 00:15:33,520 --> 00:15:37,360 Speaker 1: is actually pulling all together. And so often the men 279 00:15:37,520 --> 00:15:40,560 Speaker 1: are not even told because nobody wants to admit. No. 280 00:15:41,120 --> 00:15:43,560 Speaker 1: Women have so much on their plates right now because 281 00:15:43,560 --> 00:15:44,280 Speaker 1: they're doing it all. 282 00:15:45,520 --> 00:15:46,680 Speaker 3: And that's the frustration. 283 00:15:46,920 --> 00:15:49,480 Speaker 2: And I think a lot of women feel, and part 284 00:15:49,480 --> 00:15:52,400 Speaker 2: of that is because of the expectations that have misst 285 00:15:52,880 --> 00:15:54,840 Speaker 2: yes and for a lot of women, they've let it 286 00:15:54,880 --> 00:15:57,240 Speaker 2: happen right, Like they've heard we can have it all, 287 00:15:57,880 --> 00:16:00,800 Speaker 2: and some people may say that that's true, but you 288 00:16:00,840 --> 00:16:03,560 Speaker 2: certainly can't have it all at the same time, because 289 00:16:03,600 --> 00:16:05,840 Speaker 2: time is the one thing that they're not making more of. 290 00:16:05,960 --> 00:16:06,120 Speaker 3: Right. 291 00:16:06,160 --> 00:16:08,920 Speaker 2: You can you can fake having more money. You can 292 00:16:08,960 --> 00:16:11,960 Speaker 2: just run up, run up credit. But no one has 293 00:16:12,120 --> 00:16:15,200 Speaker 2: a credit card for time, So everybody gets the same 294 00:16:15,280 --> 00:16:17,760 Speaker 2: number of hours, and trying to cram more and more 295 00:16:17,840 --> 00:16:21,280 Speaker 2: things into those hours is increasingly difficult. I mean, my 296 00:16:21,320 --> 00:16:25,240 Speaker 2: wife was a social worker in DC for about five years. 297 00:16:25,440 --> 00:16:28,280 Speaker 2: Over I worked in DC government before coming to Heritage. 298 00:16:28,320 --> 00:16:30,400 Speaker 2: We overlapped for about five years. We actually worked in 299 00:16:30,440 --> 00:16:32,880 Speaker 2: the same building. Once we had our third child, we 300 00:16:32,960 --> 00:16:37,240 Speaker 2: realized we were paying someone basically a mortgage to take 301 00:16:37,280 --> 00:16:40,080 Speaker 2: care of our two younger children, and she was spending 302 00:16:40,240 --> 00:16:42,720 Speaker 2: all day helping other people take care of their children, 303 00:16:43,160 --> 00:16:46,040 Speaker 2: so we decided to cut out the middleman. She's been 304 00:16:46,080 --> 00:16:48,680 Speaker 2: a stay at home mom and home educator for the 305 00:16:48,760 --> 00:16:51,560 Speaker 2: last five years, and that in and of itself is 306 00:16:51,600 --> 00:16:58,600 Speaker 2: a full time job right, she is basically running at 307 00:16:58,640 --> 00:17:05,080 Speaker 2: bed and breakfast and a schoolhouse and sort of stewarding 308 00:17:05,440 --> 00:17:08,800 Speaker 2: sort of an organization in and of itself. 309 00:17:09,680 --> 00:17:13,400 Speaker 3: Those are like three full time jobs. So the expectation 310 00:17:13,520 --> 00:17:16,760 Speaker 3: that she could would do those things and also work 311 00:17:16,800 --> 00:17:20,400 Speaker 3: outside the home just puts a lot of stress on her, 312 00:17:21,280 --> 00:17:24,480 Speaker 3: and it just makes a lot of women feel burded. 313 00:17:24,680 --> 00:17:26,399 Speaker 3: This doesn't mean that everyone woman needs to be a 314 00:17:26,400 --> 00:17:29,320 Speaker 3: state at home mom or or a home educator, But 315 00:17:29,400 --> 00:17:33,840 Speaker 3: what I would say is that lifting up those vocations 316 00:17:34,800 --> 00:17:37,439 Speaker 3: is one of the most important things that anyone in 317 00:17:37,440 --> 00:17:41,520 Speaker 3: the public sphere could do. Those things are critically important. 318 00:17:41,680 --> 00:17:44,679 Speaker 1: I think young men have been afraid to take on 319 00:17:44,760 --> 00:17:48,760 Speaker 1: those traditional roles of even protect and provide because they 320 00:17:48,920 --> 00:17:51,480 Speaker 1: are afraid of stepping on the woman's toes. I hear 321 00:17:51,560 --> 00:17:53,679 Speaker 1: so often now young men saying I don't know if 322 00:17:53,720 --> 00:17:55,440 Speaker 1: I should go up to a woman and say, oh, 323 00:17:55,640 --> 00:17:57,600 Speaker 1: I just caught your I caught a glimpse of you 324 00:17:57,640 --> 00:18:00,000 Speaker 1: across the bar. You're beautiful, you know, because that's suddenly 325 00:18:00,160 --> 00:18:02,720 Speaker 1: insult or opening the door on a first date. They 326 00:18:02,720 --> 00:18:05,760 Speaker 1: don't know, they don't know where they stand in this 327 00:18:05,880 --> 00:18:09,560 Speaker 1: new world of feminism and the feminism used to be that, 328 00:18:09,720 --> 00:18:13,119 Speaker 1: and it's gone to an even greater extreme. And we 329 00:18:13,160 --> 00:18:15,520 Speaker 1: do have when we talk about the extremes on the 330 00:18:15,560 --> 00:18:18,920 Speaker 1: left and the right, we do have some also strange 331 00:18:19,040 --> 00:18:22,199 Speaker 1: messaging coming out on the left and the right. And 332 00:18:22,280 --> 00:18:24,960 Speaker 1: I will pick on the right right now, because I've 333 00:18:25,000 --> 00:18:28,600 Speaker 1: seen some really bizarre messaging coming out of the right 334 00:18:28,880 --> 00:18:31,840 Speaker 1: like this. I don't even like to say his name, 335 00:18:31,920 --> 00:18:35,760 Speaker 1: but I see this interview with Nick Fuentes and Piers Morgan, 336 00:18:36,000 --> 00:18:39,480 Speaker 1: and Piers Morgan is like, I mean, you hate women. 337 00:18:39,680 --> 00:18:43,000 Speaker 1: He absolutely, women are horrible. And this is a man 338 00:18:43,000 --> 00:18:46,600 Speaker 1: who's never been in a relationship, never had any intimacy 339 00:18:46,640 --> 00:18:51,000 Speaker 1: with a woman, never felt the tension or love of 340 00:18:51,040 --> 00:18:53,359 Speaker 1: a woman. And you have to wonder, how did this 341 00:18:54,119 --> 00:18:57,800 Speaker 1: How is this messaging of becoming an asexual man? And 342 00:18:57,880 --> 00:19:01,160 Speaker 1: yet he's saying that he wants to be the dominant, 343 00:19:01,160 --> 00:19:08,080 Speaker 1: the dominant cultural society leader in the United States. Well, 344 00:19:08,080 --> 00:19:09,560 Speaker 1: but he doesn't that want to have any children of 345 00:19:09,560 --> 00:19:11,639 Speaker 1: his own, Like, how did this happen that we have 346 00:19:11,720 --> 00:19:14,560 Speaker 1: this group of asexual men that hate women but they 347 00:19:14,600 --> 00:19:17,800 Speaker 1: want to be the dominant, Like this is a whites 348 00:19:17,880 --> 00:19:21,480 Speaker 1: only group. Well, you're not going very far if that's 349 00:19:21,200 --> 00:19:23,320 Speaker 1: your method, I. 350 00:19:23,280 --> 00:19:29,520 Speaker 2: Mean, your analysis of Flintis and particularly his main message, 351 00:19:30,160 --> 00:19:34,080 Speaker 2: is far more sophisticated than what I see on social 352 00:19:34,119 --> 00:19:36,560 Speaker 2: media or what I hear from anyone else, because you're 353 00:19:37,000 --> 00:19:39,760 Speaker 2: you're pointing out the tensions in his message. On one hand, 354 00:19:39,880 --> 00:19:42,760 Speaker 2: Nick Fintez will say that there's a white genocide going 355 00:19:42,800 --> 00:19:46,719 Speaker 2: on and white people are becoming a global minority. On 356 00:19:46,760 --> 00:19:50,720 Speaker 2: the other hand, Nick Flintes will say one he'll say, 357 00:19:50,880 --> 00:19:54,040 Speaker 2: you know, I'll only marry a white woman, but he'll 358 00:19:54,040 --> 00:19:56,520 Speaker 2: spend that will be one minute, and he'll spend the 359 00:19:56,520 --> 00:19:59,520 Speaker 2: next fifty nine minutes talking about how much he doesn't 360 00:19:59,560 --> 00:20:02,760 Speaker 2: like women. So I don't know how a guy who's 361 00:20:02,840 --> 00:20:05,760 Speaker 2: leading a movement and telling the other guys in the 362 00:20:05,760 --> 00:20:09,440 Speaker 2: movement that women are really not people that I want 363 00:20:09,440 --> 00:20:11,119 Speaker 2: to spend a lot of time with. I'm not interested 364 00:20:11,119 --> 00:20:15,800 Speaker 2: in them, you know, whether in friendship or romantically. But 365 00:20:15,880 --> 00:20:18,800 Speaker 2: we want to repopulate the earth with more white babies, right. 366 00:20:18,840 --> 00:20:22,399 Speaker 2: So I think that's a tension that very few other 367 00:20:22,440 --> 00:20:27,440 Speaker 2: people have pointed out. But I think it's important because 368 00:20:27,480 --> 00:20:29,560 Speaker 2: of all the things that people accuse Nick flint Is 369 00:20:29,560 --> 00:20:33,920 Speaker 2: of right racism, anti semitism, so on and so forth. 370 00:20:36,640 --> 00:20:42,760 Speaker 2: The gender war is far more important for the future 371 00:20:42,800 --> 00:20:47,880 Speaker 2: of our country than online ethnic tension. Right, you can 372 00:20:47,920 --> 00:20:50,520 Speaker 2: have ethnic tension in a country, or you can have 373 00:20:50,560 --> 00:20:55,080 Speaker 2: ethnic tension between countries, or religious tension or sectarian tension 374 00:20:55,080 --> 00:20:58,200 Speaker 2: between countries. I do not know of a single country 375 00:20:58,680 --> 00:21:01,080 Speaker 2: where it is a single country this is the country 376 00:21:01,160 --> 00:21:03,600 Speaker 2: only of men, and this is one only of women, 377 00:21:04,200 --> 00:21:07,920 Speaker 2: because men and women need each other in ways that 378 00:21:07,960 --> 00:21:09,320 Speaker 2: different racial groups do not. 379 00:21:10,040 --> 00:21:12,640 Speaker 1: I think that only happens in the movie Wonder Woman, 380 00:21:12,680 --> 00:21:14,760 Speaker 1: where there's an ilace of Amazon women. 381 00:21:14,560 --> 00:21:17,919 Speaker 2: Right right right, So it can't it can't happen in 382 00:21:17,960 --> 00:21:21,520 Speaker 2: real life. And that's why I'm far more concerned with 383 00:21:21,720 --> 00:21:25,440 Speaker 2: the way that young men are beginning to think about 384 00:21:25,520 --> 00:21:28,360 Speaker 2: and speak about women. And again, on the feminist left, 385 00:21:28,359 --> 00:21:30,399 Speaker 2: this has been going on for sixty plus years. So 386 00:21:30,480 --> 00:21:33,800 Speaker 2: now it's just the horseshoe effect where both both camps 387 00:21:33,840 --> 00:21:37,439 Speaker 2: are telling their respective members that the other side, the 388 00:21:37,480 --> 00:21:40,280 Speaker 2: other sex, is no good, that marriage and family are 389 00:21:40,320 --> 00:21:44,000 Speaker 2: a bad deal, and that you should avoid it because 390 00:21:44,119 --> 00:21:47,159 Speaker 2: you are either going to lose yourself and this is 391 00:21:47,320 --> 00:21:49,800 Speaker 2: this is sort of the Betty for Dan left, or 392 00:21:49,920 --> 00:21:52,720 Speaker 2: you're going to lose your stuff, which is more of 393 00:21:52,760 --> 00:21:55,560 Speaker 2: the sort of the Nick Fuentes, right, and I think 394 00:21:55,560 --> 00:21:59,159 Speaker 2: that's a bad deal. I'm seeing some signs of hope right. 395 00:21:59,240 --> 00:22:02,520 Speaker 2: I recently post did it was. It was a short 396 00:22:02,520 --> 00:22:06,000 Speaker 2: conversation between the governor of Maryland where I'm a resident, right, 397 00:22:06,040 --> 00:22:09,920 Speaker 2: Wes Moore, and and a podcaster named Van Lathan, where 398 00:22:09,960 --> 00:22:12,920 Speaker 2: he said that in the state of Maryland they're doing 399 00:22:12,960 --> 00:22:15,880 Speaker 2: a lot to center the needs of boys and men, 400 00:22:17,000 --> 00:22:19,720 Speaker 2: and he said that we can't have a function in 401 00:22:19,760 --> 00:22:23,560 Speaker 2: society if if our boys are and our men are struggling. Now, 402 00:22:23,600 --> 00:22:26,760 Speaker 2: he didn't say specifically what the state is doing, and 403 00:22:26,840 --> 00:22:30,199 Speaker 2: I certainly would like to learn more about that, but 404 00:22:30,280 --> 00:22:32,240 Speaker 2: I was struck by the fact that he talked about 405 00:22:32,640 --> 00:22:36,000 Speaker 2: boys and men taking their rightful place. I'm not sure 406 00:22:36,040 --> 00:22:38,120 Speaker 2: if he said in the family, certainly said in society. 407 00:22:38,840 --> 00:22:43,240 Speaker 2: That type of language, the acknowledgment that boys and men 408 00:22:43,400 --> 00:22:47,159 Speaker 2: are a group a category of people who have specific needs, 409 00:22:47,760 --> 00:22:52,760 Speaker 2: the acknowledgement that boys and men have specific roles and 410 00:22:52,760 --> 00:22:56,480 Speaker 2: and the acknowledgement that boys and men or or the 411 00:22:57,040 --> 00:23:00,399 Speaker 2: desire to see boys and men take their rightful place, 412 00:23:00,480 --> 00:23:03,760 Speaker 2: that is not language that people on the left typically use. 413 00:23:03,800 --> 00:23:06,239 Speaker 2: When it comes to boys and men, it's typically to 414 00:23:06,240 --> 00:23:08,679 Speaker 2: the extent that they talk about masculinity. It's about using 415 00:23:09,200 --> 00:23:13,880 Speaker 2: men using their masculinity on behalf of quote unquote marginalized groups. 416 00:23:14,200 --> 00:23:15,600 Speaker 3: So it's about being a good ally. 417 00:23:15,840 --> 00:23:19,520 Speaker 1: Not that's something politically that I think the left really 418 00:23:19,520 --> 00:23:22,600 Speaker 1: needs to come back and say as well, because if 419 00:23:22,680 --> 00:23:25,479 Speaker 1: I look at what's happened, and I mean, I know 420 00:23:25,520 --> 00:23:28,120 Speaker 1: the right also needs to come and lift up the man. 421 00:23:28,280 --> 00:23:31,119 Speaker 1: But I would say on the left, there was a 422 00:23:31,160 --> 00:23:34,720 Speaker 1: weird movement where it was like, we want to not 423 00:23:34,800 --> 00:23:36,800 Speaker 1: see color, we want to bring everybody in, we want 424 00:23:36,800 --> 00:23:40,120 Speaker 1: to lift up every person. And then suddenly I will 425 00:23:40,160 --> 00:23:42,440 Speaker 1: say this, and you may disagree with me, but it 426 00:23:42,480 --> 00:23:45,320 Speaker 1: was suddenly they overlooked the black mail and they said 427 00:23:45,359 --> 00:23:48,640 Speaker 1: we're going to lift up black women, and we are 428 00:23:48,640 --> 00:23:51,760 Speaker 1: going to lift up white trans men or trans women. 429 00:23:52,000 --> 00:23:54,840 Speaker 1: I don't even know the men who become women. And 430 00:23:54,880 --> 00:23:59,520 Speaker 1: then if you look at the leaders in the last administration, 431 00:24:00,000 --> 00:24:03,359 Speaker 1: it was like they totally overlooked the black man and 432 00:24:03,359 --> 00:24:06,840 Speaker 1: and men in general. But I think that really they 433 00:24:06,960 --> 00:24:09,480 Speaker 1: say they come out and they go to these communities 434 00:24:09,520 --> 00:24:11,159 Speaker 1: like I'm in Michigan, they go to Detroit, and they 435 00:24:11,200 --> 00:24:14,399 Speaker 1: say we're here for you, but they overlook the fact 436 00:24:14,480 --> 00:24:18,800 Speaker 1: that black men have not had leadership positions, enough leadership 437 00:24:18,840 --> 00:24:22,480 Speaker 1: positions in their party. I mean, got my gosh. In Michigan, 438 00:24:22,920 --> 00:24:27,320 Speaker 1: in the communities that are minority communities that are mostly 439 00:24:28,520 --> 00:24:33,600 Speaker 1: residents of color, they are not acknowledging that they have 440 00:24:33,960 --> 00:24:36,960 Speaker 1: white people representing them. I mean, it's so bizarre to me. 441 00:24:37,359 --> 00:24:41,159 Speaker 1: They got the jerrymannered the districts so that you can't 442 00:24:41,160 --> 00:24:46,120 Speaker 1: have black representation in a minority based community. How can 443 00:24:46,160 --> 00:24:50,520 Speaker 1: that possibly be that black men don't go wait a minute, 444 00:24:50,560 --> 00:24:53,280 Speaker 1: this party doesn't care about me. And I am not 445 00:24:53,480 --> 00:24:56,919 Speaker 1: saying that there is not work to be done to 446 00:24:57,080 --> 00:24:59,800 Speaker 1: raise men up across this country, But how is it 447 00:24:59,840 --> 00:25:02,200 Speaker 1: not I've seen that black men are being left behind 448 00:25:02,240 --> 00:25:02,800 Speaker 1: on the left. 449 00:25:04,080 --> 00:25:09,560 Speaker 3: Oh boy, tutor, you about to this is again? You 450 00:25:09,800 --> 00:25:12,679 Speaker 3: hit the nail on the head. I'll say it for 451 00:25:12,720 --> 00:25:13,560 Speaker 3: the audience this way. 452 00:25:14,119 --> 00:25:16,960 Speaker 2: When Democrats show up to talk to black women, they say, 453 00:25:17,400 --> 00:25:19,440 Speaker 2: vote for me, and I can make you vice president, 454 00:25:19,480 --> 00:25:22,080 Speaker 2: I can make you a Supreme Court justice. When they 455 00:25:22,080 --> 00:25:25,120 Speaker 2: show up to speak to black men, they say, vote 456 00:25:25,160 --> 00:25:28,400 Speaker 2: for me and I'll keep you from becoming George Floyd. 457 00:25:28,760 --> 00:25:32,919 Speaker 2: It's a very different message. For women, they push leadership. 458 00:25:33,359 --> 00:25:38,520 Speaker 2: For men, they push protection. The reason for this is 459 00:25:38,560 --> 00:25:45,720 Speaker 2: because the most significant interracial union in American history is 460 00:25:45,760 --> 00:25:50,439 Speaker 2: not the one recognized in Loving versus Virginia. It is 461 00:25:50,440 --> 00:25:54,440 Speaker 2: the marriage between black feminists and white liberals that has 462 00:25:54,480 --> 00:25:58,480 Speaker 2: powered the Democratic Party for the past sixty years. And 463 00:25:58,560 --> 00:26:03,240 Speaker 2: in that arrangement, the women get something out of the deal. 464 00:26:04,680 --> 00:26:07,160 Speaker 2: The party and the politicians and the bureaucracts get something 465 00:26:07,160 --> 00:26:10,240 Speaker 2: out of the deal, and black men are sort of 466 00:26:10,320 --> 00:26:14,199 Speaker 2: left on the outside looking in, begging for scraps in 467 00:26:14,240 --> 00:26:17,240 Speaker 2: a party that they vote for at an eighty five 468 00:26:17,520 --> 00:26:21,879 Speaker 2: percent plus clip, but they are spoken down to. 469 00:26:22,640 --> 00:26:23,560 Speaker 3: They are ignored. 470 00:26:24,480 --> 00:26:30,159 Speaker 2: If any significant maybe one or two percent, suggests that 471 00:26:30,200 --> 00:26:33,679 Speaker 2: they might vote for the other side, all of the 472 00:26:33,720 --> 00:26:36,720 Speaker 2: party apparatus comes together and says, shame on you, black men. 473 00:26:36,960 --> 00:26:40,320 Speaker 2: They get hectored and lectured by people like Barack Obama 474 00:26:40,680 --> 00:26:43,119 Speaker 2: in Pennsylvania. They say, shame on you, how dare you 475 00:26:43,200 --> 00:26:45,640 Speaker 2: not support this black woman for president or for governor? 476 00:26:46,320 --> 00:26:49,879 Speaker 2: And what I'm saying is this, the dynamics that we 477 00:26:49,960 --> 00:26:53,400 Speaker 2: see playing out politically within the black community are dynamics 478 00:26:53,400 --> 00:26:56,160 Speaker 2: that start in the home, and when you talk about 479 00:26:56,160 --> 00:26:59,200 Speaker 2: black men not having leadership, that starts in the home. 480 00:27:00,000 --> 00:27:02,040 Speaker 2: Eight percent of Black children in this country are born 481 00:27:02,080 --> 00:27:05,320 Speaker 2: to unmarried parents. About forty five percent of black children 482 00:27:05,440 --> 00:27:08,560 Speaker 2: live with a single mother. That means that to be 483 00:27:08,600 --> 00:27:12,720 Speaker 2: a Black child born to and raised by your married 484 00:27:12,800 --> 00:27:15,000 Speaker 2: mother and father for the first eighteen years of your 485 00:27:15,040 --> 00:27:18,439 Speaker 2: life is now an exception and not the rule. And 486 00:27:18,520 --> 00:27:24,000 Speaker 2: those disjointed family dynamics work themselves out everywhere in society. 487 00:27:24,040 --> 00:27:24,240 Speaker 3: Now. 488 00:27:24,359 --> 00:27:26,600 Speaker 2: It's easy for us to see it in the schoolhouse, 489 00:27:26,840 --> 00:27:29,239 Speaker 2: in the courthouse, and in the jail house, but it 490 00:27:29,280 --> 00:27:32,520 Speaker 2: also works itself out in the ballot box and in 491 00:27:32,600 --> 00:27:37,720 Speaker 2: the way that the left particularly messages to men and women, 492 00:27:37,800 --> 00:27:40,119 Speaker 2: to black men and black women about what it is 493 00:27:40,160 --> 00:27:43,919 Speaker 2: that they are going to provide. And what makes it 494 00:27:43,960 --> 00:27:50,200 Speaker 2: worse is that the political machinery exacerbates this sex conflict 495 00:27:50,920 --> 00:27:55,040 Speaker 2: because they are constantly telling black women that you are 496 00:27:55,560 --> 00:27:56,560 Speaker 2: the backbone. 497 00:27:56,160 --> 00:27:56,760 Speaker 3: Of the party. 498 00:27:57,040 --> 00:28:00,119 Speaker 2: You save the party, you save democracy, you save the country, 499 00:28:00,320 --> 00:28:02,440 Speaker 2: you saved the world. And to black men, what they 500 00:28:02,480 --> 00:28:04,600 Speaker 2: say is you guys should follow black women. 501 00:28:05,040 --> 00:28:07,760 Speaker 1: Let's take a quick commercial break. We'll continue next on 502 00:28:07,800 --> 00:28:13,960 Speaker 1: the Tutor Dixon podcast. So it's interesting that you say 503 00:28:14,000 --> 00:28:16,520 Speaker 1: that because it's reminding me. I saw one of these 504 00:28:16,560 --> 00:28:18,600 Speaker 1: men on the street interviews where they went and they 505 00:28:18,680 --> 00:28:21,199 Speaker 1: interviewed a bunch of black men about Kamala Harris and 506 00:28:21,200 --> 00:28:24,440 Speaker 1: they said, well, what do you think? Then overwhelmingly these 507 00:28:24,480 --> 00:28:28,359 Speaker 1: men said, my mother would be so mad at me 508 00:28:28,520 --> 00:28:30,879 Speaker 1: if I didn't vote for Kamala Harris. And I think 509 00:28:31,280 --> 00:28:35,000 Speaker 1: if you look across the spectrum, men generally have huge 510 00:28:35,040 --> 00:28:39,440 Speaker 1: respect for their mothers, regardless of their ethnic background. But 511 00:28:39,760 --> 00:28:44,920 Speaker 1: in this case, it seemed like there was this innate 512 00:28:45,480 --> 00:28:49,600 Speaker 1: understanding that I want to please my mother and this 513 00:28:49,680 --> 00:28:53,240 Speaker 1: is the party that will please women. Is that something 514 00:28:53,280 --> 00:28:57,760 Speaker 1: that you see amongst black men in your communities? In 515 00:28:57,800 --> 00:29:01,680 Speaker 1: these communities, yes, absolutely. 516 00:29:02,800 --> 00:29:06,840 Speaker 2: The only place that you may hear guys saying something 517 00:29:06,960 --> 00:29:11,240 Speaker 2: different may be a barbershop where you have sort of 518 00:29:11,320 --> 00:29:17,160 Speaker 2: a closed space that's primarily male dominated. But generally speaking, 519 00:29:17,280 --> 00:29:22,760 Speaker 2: when when and the exit polling sort of this makes sense, right. 520 00:29:22,800 --> 00:29:26,520 Speaker 2: Eighty plus percent of Black men vote for Kamala Harrison 521 00:29:26,520 --> 00:29:29,800 Speaker 2: twenty twenty four. Eighty plus percent of Black men vote 522 00:29:29,800 --> 00:29:32,680 Speaker 2: for whoever the Democrat is for president for the at 523 00:29:32,760 --> 00:29:34,600 Speaker 2: least the last six to seven election cycles. 524 00:29:34,600 --> 00:29:36,040 Speaker 3: So that's that's not a surprise. 525 00:29:37,320 --> 00:29:41,760 Speaker 2: But what happens is, let me let me draw this 526 00:29:41,800 --> 00:29:45,600 Speaker 2: parallel when Democrats, and this started in twenty sixteen and 527 00:29:45,680 --> 00:29:47,720 Speaker 2: they've done it for the last couple of election cycles. 528 00:29:48,280 --> 00:29:50,640 Speaker 2: When they talk to white women, they say, don't be 529 00:29:50,680 --> 00:29:53,239 Speaker 2: a part of the fifty three percent that votes for 530 00:29:53,440 --> 00:29:56,720 Speaker 2: Donald Trump, right, don't don't follow your husband in terms 531 00:29:56,720 --> 00:29:59,280 Speaker 2: of what he does at the ballot box. So for 532 00:29:59,360 --> 00:30:02,640 Speaker 2: some of those women men, let's say center right moderate, 533 00:30:03,360 --> 00:30:06,720 Speaker 2: there's a certain discomfort with publicly acknowledging hey, no, I 534 00:30:06,920 --> 00:30:10,520 Speaker 2: do want to vote for Trump, and partly is because yes, 535 00:30:10,560 --> 00:30:13,120 Speaker 2: I am in alignment with my husband. There's a there's 536 00:30:13,160 --> 00:30:16,840 Speaker 2: a similar reluctance for for a subset of black men 537 00:30:17,440 --> 00:30:21,160 Speaker 2: who either will know in their heart of hearts this 538 00:30:21,200 --> 00:30:24,360 Speaker 2: party does not represent me or my values. It has 539 00:30:24,400 --> 00:30:27,840 Speaker 2: no place for men in traditional homes and relationships or 540 00:30:28,000 --> 00:30:30,880 Speaker 2: traditional modes of thought. But I'm going to do it 541 00:30:30,920 --> 00:30:34,240 Speaker 2: because this is the right choice. This is the voting 542 00:30:34,280 --> 00:30:36,200 Speaker 2: blue is the black choice. That that's how that's how 543 00:30:36,200 --> 00:30:38,720 Speaker 2: many of them will do it. And even for the 544 00:30:38,760 --> 00:30:41,280 Speaker 2: ones who may have voted for Trump or you know, 545 00:30:41,360 --> 00:30:44,840 Speaker 2: vote conservative, if they do it, they do it silently. 546 00:30:46,080 --> 00:30:50,000 Speaker 2: They're not posting bumper stickers and they're not wearing maga hats. 547 00:30:50,320 --> 00:30:53,160 Speaker 2: There's there's a subset that will and those those people 548 00:30:53,200 --> 00:30:55,760 Speaker 2: are out loud and proud to be conservative, I'll say 549 00:30:55,800 --> 00:30:58,760 Speaker 2: it that way, But there's a chunk there in the 550 00:30:58,800 --> 00:31:02,960 Speaker 2: middle who who will will go along because they don't 551 00:31:03,000 --> 00:31:06,000 Speaker 2: want to fight either with their wife, their girlfriend, the 552 00:31:06,040 --> 00:31:08,360 Speaker 2: mother and their children or their mother. 553 00:31:09,080 --> 00:31:10,440 Speaker 3: And that's why my hope. 554 00:31:10,280 --> 00:31:16,800 Speaker 2: Is that as particularly the black family becomes more intact, right, 555 00:31:17,080 --> 00:31:20,440 Speaker 2: as we have a revival and marriage and a reconstruction 556 00:31:20,480 --> 00:31:22,080 Speaker 2: of the family, and I'm actually writing a book on 557 00:31:22,120 --> 00:31:25,640 Speaker 2: this very topic, my hope is that eventually what we'll 558 00:31:25,680 --> 00:31:29,480 Speaker 2: see is that those household dynamics will begin to take 559 00:31:29,560 --> 00:31:32,000 Speaker 2: shape and there will be some order in the home. 560 00:31:32,440 --> 00:31:35,840 Speaker 2: Because every other group of men vote more conservatively conservatively 561 00:31:36,080 --> 00:31:37,880 Speaker 2: than their women, and the same thing for black men. 562 00:31:38,720 --> 00:31:42,320 Speaker 2: But again, the consistent messaging is that black men should 563 00:31:42,480 --> 00:31:46,760 Speaker 2: follow black women when it comes to politics, and that 564 00:31:47,400 --> 00:31:50,520 Speaker 2: is a message that I feel is unique to the 565 00:31:50,560 --> 00:31:51,840 Speaker 2: black community. 566 00:31:52,000 --> 00:31:55,240 Speaker 1: Absolutely, But I also it's resonating with me that we 567 00:31:55,320 --> 00:31:57,400 Speaker 1: have a young men problem. As I'm listening to you 568 00:31:57,560 --> 00:32:00,800 Speaker 1: regardless of race. We have a young man problem. And 569 00:32:00,840 --> 00:32:04,280 Speaker 1: what you just said to me kind of shook me awake. 570 00:32:04,480 --> 00:32:07,400 Speaker 1: That we keep saying how do we talk to young men? 571 00:32:07,840 --> 00:32:10,840 Speaker 1: But it's young women who are dictating how young men 572 00:32:10,920 --> 00:32:14,440 Speaker 1: should be thinking. And so how do we change that 573 00:32:14,520 --> 00:32:17,160 Speaker 1: perception with young women? And I go back to the 574 00:32:17,160 --> 00:32:19,960 Speaker 1: fact that when you are a young woman, you don't 575 00:32:20,000 --> 00:32:22,360 Speaker 1: know what it is to be a mom and have 576 00:32:22,400 --> 00:32:24,960 Speaker 1: a career and try to do all of the things 577 00:32:25,760 --> 00:32:30,640 Speaker 1: while you are crapping all over young men. You know, 578 00:32:31,120 --> 00:32:34,120 Speaker 1: I mean, did not say it in any better way. 579 00:32:34,440 --> 00:32:40,719 Speaker 1: When you are trashing the protect and provide model and 580 00:32:40,760 --> 00:32:43,680 Speaker 1: you're saying I don't need that, you suddenly get to 581 00:32:43,680 --> 00:32:46,320 Speaker 1: a point where you can't come back out and say, actually, 582 00:32:46,600 --> 00:32:50,200 Speaker 1: that was what I needed. How do we bring that back? 583 00:32:50,240 --> 00:32:52,560 Speaker 1: How do we show young women that you can't do 584 00:32:52,600 --> 00:32:54,400 Speaker 1: it by yourself? Is not that you can't do it, 585 00:32:54,400 --> 00:32:56,080 Speaker 1: you can't do it alone. 586 00:32:56,280 --> 00:32:57,600 Speaker 3: Well, I think part. 587 00:32:57,400 --> 00:33:00,920 Speaker 2: Of this this I'll say this way, this start. 588 00:33:01,000 --> 00:33:02,080 Speaker 3: This must start in the home. 589 00:33:03,000 --> 00:33:06,160 Speaker 2: So so for dads who are husbands who have children, 590 00:33:06,680 --> 00:33:10,240 Speaker 2: it's about mom and dad modeling. So the right type 591 00:33:10,240 --> 00:33:13,719 Speaker 2: of relationship first and foremost, because more is caught than 592 00:33:13,760 --> 00:33:16,200 Speaker 2: it's taught. So it doesn't matter what I say is 593 00:33:16,440 --> 00:33:19,240 Speaker 2: as a dad, if my if my children see me 594 00:33:19,440 --> 00:33:22,880 Speaker 2: mistreating my wife, if they see me abdicating my responsibilities 595 00:33:22,880 --> 00:33:25,840 Speaker 2: in my home. So first and foremost is me playing 596 00:33:25,880 --> 00:33:29,720 Speaker 2: my part, my God given role. But but we need 597 00:33:29,840 --> 00:33:33,240 Speaker 2: more men, you know, who are taking their families to church, 598 00:33:34,080 --> 00:33:38,520 Speaker 2: who are leading them spiritually, who love their wives, so 599 00:33:38,600 --> 00:33:41,880 Speaker 2: that a young a boy gets to see what it 600 00:33:41,920 --> 00:33:46,200 Speaker 2: looks like when his dad truly loves his mom. Right, 601 00:33:46,360 --> 00:33:48,960 Speaker 2: when you truly love your wife, that doesn't mean you 602 00:33:49,040 --> 00:33:51,440 Speaker 2: just roll over and and well, you know whatever my 603 00:33:51,440 --> 00:33:56,440 Speaker 2: wife says. You know, I'm just a fifth child. No, no, no, 604 00:33:56,520 --> 00:33:57,360 Speaker 2: that's that's not it. 605 00:33:57,760 --> 00:33:58,760 Speaker 3: We don't. We don't. 606 00:34:00,080 --> 00:34:03,720 Speaker 2: Lead by serving, We serve by leading. So when he 607 00:34:03,760 --> 00:34:09,480 Speaker 2: gets to see you in that role, right, showing affection, protecting, 608 00:34:10,600 --> 00:34:15,239 Speaker 2: decision making, all those things, playing with him in your 609 00:34:15,280 --> 00:34:19,200 Speaker 2: siblings right, sort of helping to create an atmosphere of 610 00:34:19,200 --> 00:34:22,480 Speaker 2: togetherness and unity in the home. Now you're giving him 611 00:34:22,480 --> 00:34:26,240 Speaker 2: something to pattern himself after. But you're also giving your something, 612 00:34:26,680 --> 00:34:30,200 Speaker 2: your daughter something to look for in a potential mate. 613 00:34:30,680 --> 00:34:33,040 Speaker 2: So I think a big part of it is modeling 614 00:34:33,680 --> 00:34:36,279 Speaker 2: as well as sort of the teaching and instructing that 615 00:34:36,320 --> 00:34:40,040 Speaker 2: goes on as children go from very young to teenage 616 00:34:40,080 --> 00:34:41,239 Speaker 2: to young adulthood. 617 00:34:41,640 --> 00:34:44,200 Speaker 1: Well, I think this is so important for us to 618 00:34:44,360 --> 00:34:48,360 Speaker 1: also consider politically what's going on right now. We have 619 00:34:48,640 --> 00:34:52,919 Speaker 1: so many of these social media influencers who I love 620 00:34:52,960 --> 00:34:55,600 Speaker 1: what you said. You want to be taking your child 621 00:34:55,640 --> 00:34:58,000 Speaker 1: to church, you want to be the leader, the spiritual 622 00:34:58,080 --> 00:35:01,160 Speaker 1: leader of the home. And yet I see these influencers 623 00:35:01,320 --> 00:35:04,759 Speaker 1: who they say they're Christian, but they are going in 624 00:35:04,800 --> 00:35:08,320 Speaker 1: and they're attacking communities, They're attacking other faiths. They're saying 625 00:35:08,360 --> 00:35:11,080 Speaker 1: that this faith is bad and they're going to destroy us. 626 00:35:11,320 --> 00:35:13,640 Speaker 1: Instead of saying, hey, I want to get with my 627 00:35:13,760 --> 00:35:16,040 Speaker 1: church and bring more people to my church, grow what 628 00:35:16,120 --> 00:35:18,919 Speaker 1: I have, grow what I think is beautiful and right 629 00:35:19,080 --> 00:35:22,880 Speaker 1: and valuable. Instead I'm going to try to devalue what 630 00:35:22,960 --> 00:35:26,760 Speaker 1: someone else has. And Yet, in those families, the father 631 00:35:26,880 --> 00:35:28,799 Speaker 1: is the leader of the home, the father is home 632 00:35:28,840 --> 00:35:33,120 Speaker 1: every night, there is a strong community and building of 633 00:35:33,160 --> 00:35:37,480 Speaker 1: community and building of family. We have to focus. If 634 00:35:37,520 --> 00:35:40,480 Speaker 1: you believe that Christianity is the future and that that 635 00:35:40,680 --> 00:35:43,279 Speaker 1: is the way to live, you should focus inward. Say 636 00:35:43,320 --> 00:35:45,640 Speaker 1: how do I expand my church, how do I bring 637 00:35:45,719 --> 00:35:48,360 Speaker 1: people into my area instead of trying to attack and 638 00:35:48,400 --> 00:35:50,880 Speaker 1: shut down the others. And I think that's something that 639 00:35:50,920 --> 00:35:55,000 Speaker 1: we have really struggled with in the conservative community. But 640 00:35:55,160 --> 00:35:58,120 Speaker 1: the church will lead. I mean, the church will will 641 00:35:58,160 --> 00:36:00,560 Speaker 1: create culture, and it will create the culture that we 642 00:36:00,600 --> 00:36:02,800 Speaker 1: as Christians would like to expand. 643 00:36:03,840 --> 00:36:06,319 Speaker 2: And I think you hit on something in terms of 644 00:36:06,680 --> 00:36:11,600 Speaker 2: one of the signs of the decline of men and 645 00:36:11,640 --> 00:36:16,600 Speaker 2: boys in this country is the embrace of victimhood. And 646 00:36:17,200 --> 00:36:19,600 Speaker 2: I've certainly seen this on the left for decades, and 647 00:36:19,600 --> 00:36:22,080 Speaker 2: now I'm seeing the right doing the same thing. This 648 00:36:22,120 --> 00:36:24,960 Speaker 2: is not to say that there are not legitimate political 649 00:36:25,040 --> 00:36:29,719 Speaker 2: or policy or even cultural issues to be addressed publicly, right, 650 00:36:30,000 --> 00:36:35,120 Speaker 2: and that could be the compatibility of different cultures, whether 651 00:36:35,280 --> 00:36:39,200 Speaker 2: East and West, the different religious face. I'm actually I'm 652 00:36:39,200 --> 00:36:43,880 Speaker 2: okay with having some of those debates publicly. What worries 653 00:36:43,960 --> 00:36:46,920 Speaker 2: me is when even I'll see some even some of 654 00:36:46,920 --> 00:36:50,839 Speaker 2: the Christian pastors that I that I follow, they will 655 00:36:50,880 --> 00:36:54,000 Speaker 2: act as if well, all of the problems facing young 656 00:36:54,080 --> 00:36:56,520 Speaker 2: men and some of them were going further say, young 657 00:36:56,560 --> 00:37:00,560 Speaker 2: white men today are problems that are caused by those 658 00:37:00,600 --> 00:37:05,839 Speaker 2: people over there by some external force, and and I 659 00:37:05,880 --> 00:37:08,120 Speaker 2: just don't think you can live life that way. That 660 00:37:08,360 --> 00:37:11,120 Speaker 2: doesn't mean that there aren't that they are never external 661 00:37:11,120 --> 00:37:15,800 Speaker 2: forces acting upon you. But if I don't if I 662 00:37:15,840 --> 00:37:17,160 Speaker 2: don't want to go out and look for a job, 663 00:37:17,960 --> 00:37:20,920 Speaker 2: if I spend all day looking at porn, if I'm 664 00:37:20,920 --> 00:37:24,880 Speaker 2: addicted to gambling, particularly sports gambling, if I don't have 665 00:37:24,920 --> 00:37:27,640 Speaker 2: work ethic and I don't have drive, and I won't 666 00:37:27,680 --> 00:37:30,800 Speaker 2: save whatever little money that I have, and I choose 667 00:37:30,800 --> 00:37:33,160 Speaker 2: not to approach a young woman that I see either 668 00:37:33,200 --> 00:37:35,239 Speaker 2: at school or at church because I'm nervous that she'll 669 00:37:35,280 --> 00:37:38,800 Speaker 2: she'll reject me. It's it's not about some other community 670 00:37:38,800 --> 00:37:41,360 Speaker 2: and what they're doing to me. I am not making 671 00:37:42,080 --> 00:37:45,080 Speaker 2: the best use of the things that God has given 672 00:37:45,120 --> 00:37:49,239 Speaker 2: me in my own life. And I'm trying to externalize 673 00:37:49,719 --> 00:37:53,000 Speaker 2: my failures by pointing to someone else and saying, well, 674 00:37:53,000 --> 00:37:55,160 Speaker 2: if they weren't here, or if they weren't doing what 675 00:37:55,200 --> 00:37:58,800 Speaker 2: they're doing, then then my life would be perfect. And 676 00:37:59,120 --> 00:38:00,919 Speaker 2: I just see that as a as a losing deal. 677 00:38:01,320 --> 00:38:03,040 Speaker 2: So one of the things that young men have to 678 00:38:03,120 --> 00:38:09,759 Speaker 2: learn is to embrace responsibility. Authority and responsibility are two 679 00:38:09,760 --> 00:38:13,080 Speaker 2: sides of the same coin, and what we've seen, particularly 680 00:38:13,120 --> 00:38:17,520 Speaker 2: with second wave feminism, is the desire for authority, but 681 00:38:17,640 --> 00:38:20,919 Speaker 2: the rejection of responsibility. And this is something that has 682 00:38:21,000 --> 00:38:23,800 Speaker 2: sort of permeated our culture now where everyone says, no, 683 00:38:23,920 --> 00:38:27,040 Speaker 2: I want the power's and as soon as they think 684 00:38:27,080 --> 00:38:29,120 Speaker 2: that they have it, then they say, well, now you 685 00:38:29,120 --> 00:38:31,560 Speaker 2: can't criticize me. No, it's not my fault. It's always 686 00:38:31,560 --> 00:38:36,280 Speaker 2: someone else's fault. And this is a bipartisan, cross ideological 687 00:38:36,440 --> 00:38:39,120 Speaker 2: problem that we have in our country, that we see 688 00:38:39,120 --> 00:38:42,200 Speaker 2: in politics, that we see in the culture, and that 689 00:38:42,200 --> 00:38:44,359 Speaker 2: we see in our communities. And you can't have a 690 00:38:44,400 --> 00:38:47,640 Speaker 2: function in society where no one wants to take responsibility 691 00:38:47,640 --> 00:38:49,839 Speaker 2: for anything. So that's why I think young men shoed 692 00:38:49,960 --> 00:38:53,520 Speaker 2: should embrace it. That doesn't mean everything is their fault, 693 00:38:53,640 --> 00:38:55,840 Speaker 2: but what it does mean is that the things that 694 00:38:55,880 --> 00:38:59,239 Speaker 2: are within my ability to control, I'm willing to do 695 00:38:59,320 --> 00:39:02,239 Speaker 2: my part before I start blaming people for while my 696 00:39:02,280 --> 00:39:03,720 Speaker 2: life doesn't look the way that it should. 697 00:39:04,040 --> 00:39:06,960 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's very interesting. It is the woe is me 698 00:39:07,440 --> 00:39:09,480 Speaker 1: of society. And when you look at some of these 699 00:39:09,920 --> 00:39:13,719 Speaker 1: radical influencers, that is what they're telling young men. And 700 00:39:14,600 --> 00:39:16,760 Speaker 1: I mean one of the things that Nick Foint has 701 00:39:16,800 --> 00:39:19,359 Speaker 1: recently said was truly, if you got rid of this, 702 00:39:19,440 --> 00:39:20,799 Speaker 1: if you got rid of this, if you got rid 703 00:39:20,840 --> 00:39:22,279 Speaker 1: of women, if you got rid of black men, if 704 00:39:22,320 --> 00:39:23,960 Speaker 1: you got rid of all these people, we would live 705 00:39:24,000 --> 00:39:27,480 Speaker 1: in a utopia. Well, no, you wouldn't. That's ridiculous. And 706 00:39:27,560 --> 00:39:31,960 Speaker 1: yet that is victimhood, and it's so well masked in empowerment. 707 00:39:32,040 --> 00:39:34,520 Speaker 1: But you will live in a country where your future 708 00:39:34,600 --> 00:39:37,600 Speaker 1: is your own. You are literally able to have whatever 709 00:39:37,640 --> 00:39:40,759 Speaker 1: religion you want, You can date whoever you want, you 710 00:39:40,800 --> 00:39:43,120 Speaker 1: can have as many children as you want. You are 711 00:39:43,160 --> 00:39:46,840 Speaker 1: not limited here. But these people are telling you you're limited. 712 00:39:47,000 --> 00:39:52,360 Speaker 1: And that is I believe, really affecting the stamina, the libido, 713 00:39:52,480 --> 00:39:54,719 Speaker 1: and the minds of our young men. And it makes 714 00:39:54,760 --> 00:39:56,959 Speaker 1: me very sad to think about that. But I think 715 00:39:57,040 --> 00:39:59,360 Speaker 1: you hit on something that we have been looking for 716 00:39:59,360 --> 00:40:01,480 Speaker 1: for so long. What are we doing? How do we 717 00:40:01,560 --> 00:40:04,840 Speaker 1: talk to these young men? Well, we're combating this victimhood 718 00:40:04,840 --> 00:40:06,560 Speaker 1: mindset that we never thought we had on the right, 719 00:40:06,600 --> 00:40:08,879 Speaker 1: But we do have on the right. It's growing day 720 00:40:08,880 --> 00:40:11,640 Speaker 1: by day. You've got Tucker Carlson going to Russia and 721 00:40:11,640 --> 00:40:13,720 Speaker 1: being like, you'd be much happier if you lived in Russia. 722 00:40:13,840 --> 00:40:16,319 Speaker 1: What the heck, what are you talking about? You know, 723 00:40:16,480 --> 00:40:20,000 Speaker 1: like that's nuts, And yet it is really pulling these 724 00:40:20,000 --> 00:40:22,279 Speaker 1: people in because they have a big following and they 725 00:40:22,840 --> 00:40:25,960 Speaker 1: have they've built credibility, so now they can kind of 726 00:40:26,000 --> 00:40:28,400 Speaker 1: like tear things down, and that to me is what's 727 00:40:28,760 --> 00:40:32,520 Speaker 1: so incredibly dangerous. You've been incredibly enlightening today. Thank you 728 00:40:32,920 --> 00:40:35,320 Speaker 1: so much for coming on and talking about this stuff. 729 00:40:35,360 --> 00:40:39,160 Speaker 1: I really appreciate it. So Delano Squires tell people where 730 00:40:39,200 --> 00:40:40,000 Speaker 1: they can follow you. 731 00:40:41,680 --> 00:40:45,680 Speaker 2: They can follow me on x aka Twitter at Delano 732 00:40:45,840 --> 00:40:46,759 Speaker 2: d E l A n O. 733 00:40:47,320 --> 00:40:49,319 Speaker 3: Squire's s q U I R Yes. 734 00:40:49,880 --> 00:40:51,960 Speaker 2: In the next few weeks, I'm going to post a 735 00:40:52,000 --> 00:40:54,680 Speaker 2: link to my forthcoming book called The Vanishing Black Family, 736 00:40:55,200 --> 00:40:58,240 Speaker 2: where where I talk about some of these issues, particularly 737 00:40:58,280 --> 00:40:59,200 Speaker 2: within the black community. 738 00:40:59,239 --> 00:41:02,160 Speaker 3: But again a lot of it is generally applicable. 739 00:41:02,040 --> 00:41:06,479 Speaker 2: Like we need to restore order between you know, within 740 00:41:06,520 --> 00:41:08,600 Speaker 2: the home and between men, women and. 741 00:41:08,520 --> 00:41:09,560 Speaker 3: The God who created us. 742 00:41:09,600 --> 00:41:12,799 Speaker 2: So but yeah, Twitter is probably the best place I 743 00:41:12,800 --> 00:41:15,239 Speaker 2: try to stay out of trouble, but not always so. 744 00:41:15,800 --> 00:41:19,160 Speaker 1: But you have such a good grasp on the difference, 745 00:41:19,640 --> 00:41:22,719 Speaker 1: the differences between genders and the men and women and 746 00:41:22,760 --> 00:41:26,040 Speaker 1: what we are losing there and that human experience of 747 00:41:26,080 --> 00:41:29,600 Speaker 1: intimacy and love and moving forward as a team. Those 748 00:41:29,640 --> 00:41:32,000 Speaker 1: are things I just think we don't have many people 749 00:41:32,040 --> 00:41:34,600 Speaker 1: talking about. We don't have many men who are willing 750 00:41:34,640 --> 00:41:36,120 Speaker 1: to come out and talk about this. I think this 751 00:41:36,200 --> 00:41:41,360 Speaker 1: is something Charlie was uniquely speaking about, and that void 752 00:41:41,400 --> 00:41:43,879 Speaker 1: has not been filled. In fact, that void instead has 753 00:41:43,920 --> 00:41:47,080 Speaker 1: gone to this other radical side. And to have a man, 754 00:41:47,480 --> 00:41:50,600 Speaker 1: a family man, who is able to articulate why that 755 00:41:50,680 --> 00:41:53,640 Speaker 1: is important and give men something to look forward to. 756 00:41:54,040 --> 00:41:56,160 Speaker 1: I just really appreciate that you're out there doing that. 757 00:41:56,239 --> 00:41:58,600 Speaker 3: So thank you absolutely, thank you. I appreciate it. 758 00:41:58,600 --> 00:42:00,960 Speaker 1: Absolutely, and thank you all for joining us on the 759 00:42:01,000 --> 00:42:03,640 Speaker 1: Tutor Dixon Podcast. As always, you can subscribe at the 760 00:42:03,680 --> 00:42:07,080 Speaker 1: iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts, 761 00:42:07,120 --> 00:42:09,120 Speaker 1: and you can watch the whole thing on Rumble or 762 00:42:09,200 --> 00:42:12,200 Speaker 1: YouTube at Tutor Dixon. Join us next time and have 763 00:42:12,280 --> 00:42:12,839 Speaker 1: a blessed day.