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Speaker 1: In this final episode, we welcome two additional members of

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Speaker 1: Because one of the most powerful things about family is this,

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Speaker 1: Throughout this season, we've heard stories about distance, about different upbringings,

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Speaker 1: this final conversation is about accountability. Accountability for investing in

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Speaker 1: How do we show the younger generation that family matters?

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Speaker 1: Because with dozens of nieces, nephews and cousins, connection doesn't

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Speaker 1: So let's listen as Lance, Gladys, Jasmine, Chris, and Jewel

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Speaker 1: begin to explore what accountability, leadership, and togetherness might look

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Speaker 1: like for their family moving forward. I'm Elliott, Connie, and

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Speaker 1: this is family therapy. What are your best hopes from

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Speaker 3: Let the Elders go first, Jeff.

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Speaker 1: Elders, I know, but which which one? Specifically Chris Jasmine

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Speaker 1: Where does jewel falling there?

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Speaker 4: That's my daughter?

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Speaker 5: Continue to make a commitment with you know, a better

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Speaker 8: I think the key word for me is accountability. Like

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Speaker 3: Accountably to me?

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Speaker 1: What what what generational curse? Lance would you be the

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Speaker 9: Just just the oneness, like just being like a family,

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Speaker 3: We all live in different states, so.

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Speaker 8: Like no, but in that all of us just being

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Speaker 3: Just shoot a text message something like that.

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Speaker 1: Lance, That's that's really really dope. Man. How many kids

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Speaker 1: It sounds like communication and togetherness would be important. Jasmine Jewel,

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Speaker 4: Deal for us.

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Speaker 2: I think that would help heal my family in a sense. True.

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Speaker 2: And said, I feel like that would help a lot.

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Speaker 2: I know me personally, i'd be really interested in that.

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Speaker 3: So yeah, so.

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Speaker 1: It would have it would have a positive impact on you, I.

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Speaker 4: Think, so I'd be open to trying it.

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Speaker 1: How do you think Probably a weird way to ask this,

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Speaker 2: I mean, it'd be nice be a lot more connections.

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Speaker 2: I'll begin that question a lot lately I feel a little.

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Speaker 1: Like and you know, sometimes black people you can't tell

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Speaker 4: And I think I think you answered very clear.

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Speaker 6: And I feel like all of your cousins feel the

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Speaker 1: H How would you guys know if this togetherness was beginning?

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Speaker 1: Like it's obviously not something that could happen overnight, and

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Speaker 2: I think I feel like we've tried to do this

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Speaker 4: Lastually, I know why.

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Speaker 2: You know, texas were sent and you know, I was

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Speaker 1: Sorry, Jasmine, how long ago was this that Lance did this?

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Speaker 6: It was like, wasn't it after Lewis's or right before

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Speaker 8: we can just grow like as brothers and sisters individually

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Speaker 3: So I was like, you know, why not put it

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Speaker 8: It's like, for instance, when Bro turned fifteen, it was

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Speaker 8: you know what I'm saying, or committed to it, because

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Speaker 8: back to my point, it's like the accountability because now

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Speaker 3: So if I said I was.

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Speaker 8: Gonna make it, now I have, and now I got

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Speaker 1: And to ask.

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Speaker 10: You maybe sensitive question, lands what was it like for

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Speaker 6: Like.

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Speaker 8: It bothered me in a sense because I'm a very

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Speaker 3: Like I got to keep moving, you know what I mean.

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Speaker 8: And I just wanted like us to pick up the

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Speaker 8: I do my best to keep tabs on everybody, like

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Speaker 3: So for me, my faith is strong. So for me, I.

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Speaker 8: Kind of have discernments. So it's like I kind of

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Speaker 8: I love you, I pray for you from afar, like

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Speaker 3: You know.

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Speaker 8: I still love my siblings and pray for them, but

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Speaker 1: Right, And Lambs to ask you one more question you

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Speaker 3: So I always knew Jahson was my little sister.

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Speaker 8: Like our families like grew up together, like you know

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Speaker 8: been there for about fourteen years, like you know, I'm

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Speaker 3: My brother got me the job there, so you know

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Speaker 8: He really helped me out in that aspect. He used

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Speaker 3: And then me and being Gladys hit it off right

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Speaker 8: And both and you know, and then Chris, you know

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Speaker 1: Are you a trained chef? Nope, you just learned on

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm kind of a I'm a perfectionist.

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Speaker 1: Oh, Gladys, does your son know this about manam?

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Speaker 4: Absolutely? He has three uncles that yeah, yeah.

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Speaker 1: There's three uncles are executive ships. Yep, m hm.

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Speaker 4: Chris is a trained one. Just you heard later, Chris.

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Speaker 1: Right here is what the what I hadn't know.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, that's that's why we need a reunion.

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Speaker 1: Three executive shifts, not including Eliza. If y'all have a

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Speaker 6: Real talk, real talk. At Lance's year anniversary. The reception

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Speaker 6: that he just had, Oh my goodness, the food was

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Speaker 6: absolutely delicious, delicious everything, every thing. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, so, Gladys, yes, to put you on the spot

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Speaker 1: a little bit. Yes, everyone's got these large families. Yes, approximately,

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Speaker 1: I'm not going to make you say exactly, but approximately

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Speaker 4: Hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on the one.

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Speaker 6: Like thirty, like thirty over thirty over thirty yeah, easy, easily.

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Speaker 6: And because of Chris, now we have the great brands.

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Speaker 1: I'm old blame me right, thank me too, far By.

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Speaker 6: Well, no, because Lance's older children are very career driven

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Speaker 6: So some are still in college, going further into college,

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Speaker 3: She's going for her doctor and exactly.

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Speaker 4: See, like you know what I mean.

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Speaker 6: And then we have nephews that are enlisted in the services,

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Speaker 4: So we just have I have a lot of nieces

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Speaker 6: So yeah, like I said, I like Lance said too,

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Speaker 6: Like you know, we met each other twenty ten, and

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Speaker 4: I didn't think that, you know, we have other other

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Speaker 6: So I always talk to, you know, everybody that's on

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Speaker 1: I think I'm going to make a suggestion to you

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Speaker 1: So then I'll start with Chris, how is make a

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Speaker 5: That would be They would be amazing if we all

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Speaker 3: You know, where do we come from? Who's our you

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Speaker 6: we are deep like family wise, like just where we

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Speaker 6: are deep like that.

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Speaker 5: So that's that's one of my youngest daughter's twenty five,

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Speaker 5: you know, my oldest are who our oldest are thirty five,

445
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Speaker 5: and then my youngest is about to be twelve, so

446
00:26:15,600 --> 00:26:19,119
Speaker 5: well it's eleven, so it's all in between. So it

447
00:26:19,160 --> 00:26:21,000
Speaker 5: would be cool for everybody, you know, to get to

448
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Speaker 5: know each other, like I know, like my son Langston,

449
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Speaker 5: he's always high to meet you know, family members, that's

450
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Speaker 5: something about him.

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Speaker 3: He likes doing that, So that would be cool.

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Speaker 1: Jasmine, can I come to you with the same question,

453
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Speaker 1: what would it do to you to be able to

454
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Speaker 1: be closer to the thirty thirty plus nieces and nephews.

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Speaker 2: That would mean a lot to me because I've always

456
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Speaker 2: had such a strong connection with my nieces and nephews,

457
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Speaker 2: especially growing up. Like Jules said, she has two cousins

458
00:27:01,560 --> 00:27:06,280
Speaker 2: that she literally grew up as like her siblings pretty much,

459
00:27:06,720 --> 00:27:09,800
Speaker 2: and to even like bridget gap in her be able

460
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Speaker 2: to meet her other cousins at her age, even now

461
00:27:13,200 --> 00:27:14,840
Speaker 2: that they're out of age where they can go and

462
00:27:14,880 --> 00:27:20,080
Speaker 2: literally fly to each other and travel and that would

463
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Speaker 2: mean a lot. And it's also showing them how us

464
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Speaker 2: as siblings come together and show them how to whole

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Speaker 2: accountability and actually show up for each other the way

466
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Speaker 2: Lance was saying, Yeah, it's so interesting.

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Speaker 1: I don't know if you guys know this or not.

468
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Speaker 1: And again, Jewel, this is one of those moments whe

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Speaker 1: I'm going to be totally unfair to you, but I

470
00:27:41,680 --> 00:27:43,320
Speaker 1: don't know if you guys know this or not. But like,

471
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Speaker 1: if I wanted to make Jewel stronger as a twenty

472
00:27:47,880 --> 00:27:54,240
Speaker 1: one year old person, giving her identity makes her stronger.

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Speaker 1: And it's interesting because like the older generation can do

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Speaker 1: a lot to help her develop identity. Now, Jewel, I'm

475
00:28:05,600 --> 00:28:07,720
Speaker 1: not in any way saying you need to be stronger

476
00:28:07,880 --> 00:28:12,960
Speaker 1: or you need more identity, but human beings are stronger

477
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Speaker 1: within connection. In the next part of this conversation, We're

478
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Speaker 1: going to explore what it looks like when a family

479
00:28:39,000 --> 00:28:44,080
Speaker 1: starts to move from hope to structure, from desire to action,

480
00:28:45,160 --> 00:28:49,640
Speaker 1: because healthy families don't just happen, they are built intentionally,

481
00:28:50,320 --> 00:28:55,960
Speaker 1: one decision at a time. Let's continue the conversation. Now,

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Speaker 1: there are three things that really healthily bonded families do

483
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Speaker 1: or have. I should say, can I share what those

484
00:29:09,080 --> 00:29:12,120
Speaker 1: three things are and then make a suggestions on how

485
00:29:12,200 --> 00:29:18,080
Speaker 1: your family can have these three things? Okay, the first one,

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Speaker 1: one of the first words Lamp said in this call

487
00:29:22,400 --> 00:29:26,720
Speaker 1: was for him, the key word he said the exact

488
00:29:26,800 --> 00:29:31,840
Speaker 1: three was for me, the keyword is accountability. Lance. Do

489
00:29:31,840 --> 00:29:35,600
Speaker 1: you remember saying that about forty five minutes ago. Yes, right,

490
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Speaker 1: he said, for me, the keyword accountability. Now, Lance, I

491
00:29:38,560 --> 00:29:40,440
Speaker 1: don't know if you know this or not, but you

492
00:29:40,480 --> 00:29:46,160
Speaker 1: are spot on because the first thing that healthily bonded

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Speaker 1: families have is leadership, because leadership holds us accountable. And

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Speaker 1: the way leadership looks in a family like for me,

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00:29:57,160 --> 00:30:00,200
Speaker 1: my grandmother was my family leader. She passed the way

496
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Speaker 1: a few years ago. And when my grandmother said we're

497
00:30:03,920 --> 00:30:06,760
Speaker 1: having a family Christmas in Chicago, you knew you had

498
00:30:06,800 --> 00:30:08,920
Speaker 1: to go there or else. My grandmother was going to

499
00:30:09,000 --> 00:30:13,960
Speaker 1: hold you accountable. My grandma was gonna get upset. Right, So,

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Speaker 1: healthily bonded families, not only do we have something like

501
00:30:20,720 --> 00:30:23,000
Speaker 1: like what you were saying, like the family reunion, but

502
00:30:23,080 --> 00:30:26,880
Speaker 1: some leadership has to be there to hold everybody accountable

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00:30:27,000 --> 00:30:32,920
Speaker 1: to coming to the event. Yes, because without leadership there

504
00:30:33,000 --> 00:30:36,960
Speaker 1: is no accountability. Does that make sense?

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Speaker 3: Yes?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I have I have a suggestion on how your

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00:30:41,760 --> 00:30:47,400
Speaker 1: family could achieve leadership and can I can I make

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Speaker 1: a suggestion for you? Yes. So if we were to

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Speaker 1: form a company, like let's say we were going to

510
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Speaker 1: form a company that compete with Apple, the first thing

511
00:31:02,320 --> 00:31:05,120
Speaker 1: we would do is set up a board. It's the

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Speaker 1: very first thing we would do because the board holds

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Speaker 1: the company accountable. Well, I would like Lance, Gladys, Jasmine

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Speaker 1: and Chris to be the family board. What do you

515
00:31:16,040 --> 00:31:18,320
Speaker 1: guys think about that I'm down?

516
00:31:19,880 --> 00:31:20,320
Speaker 4: Got it?

517
00:31:20,400 --> 00:31:22,680
Speaker 1: I'm good? Who said I'm down? Was that Jasmine saying

518
00:31:22,680 --> 00:31:28,120
Speaker 1: I'm down? Okay? Now, Gladys, it looks like you're taking notes.

519
00:31:28,120 --> 00:31:28,800
Speaker 1: Are you're taking note?

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00:31:28,880 --> 00:31:29,040
Speaker 4: Yes?

521
00:31:29,120 --> 00:31:29,360
Speaker 2: Sir?

522
00:31:30,280 --> 00:31:34,480
Speaker 1: Oay good? Because I want to tell you the responsibilities

523
00:31:34,520 --> 00:31:41,560
Speaker 1: the board has. Number one, the board discusses how we

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Speaker 1: will invite and keep engaged other family members. Jasmine highlighted

525
00:31:47,720 --> 00:31:50,600
Speaker 1: something earlier, and Jasmine, not to put you on the spot,

526
00:31:50,640 --> 00:31:54,400
Speaker 1: but it's just a really important point you brought up earlier. Jasmine,

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Speaker 1: there is no possible way we're going to start a

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00:31:56,400 --> 00:31:58,960
Speaker 1: group chat with the forty three million family members you

529
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Speaker 1: guys have in your family, and someone's not gonna say

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00:32:02,520 --> 00:32:05,960
Speaker 1: something to offend someone else. So what I want the

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00:32:06,000 --> 00:32:10,160
Speaker 1: board to do is if you notice such and such

532
00:32:10,200 --> 00:32:12,280
Speaker 1: family members kind of drift away and not responding, I

533
00:32:12,280 --> 00:32:14,760
Speaker 1: want the board of a meeting to figure out how

534
00:32:14,760 --> 00:32:16,160
Speaker 1: do we re engage that person?

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Speaker 2: Mm hmmm.

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00:32:18,480 --> 00:32:19,280
Speaker 1: Does that make sense?

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00:32:20,120 --> 00:32:23,400
Speaker 3: Even if even if it's one of the board members.

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00:32:23,160 --> 00:32:23,640
Speaker 1: Even if.

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00:32:25,400 --> 00:32:28,240
Speaker 4: We already know who the board member is going to be.

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Speaker 1: Y'all are not hanging up on a girl, Jasmine.

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Speaker 4: I'm the baby facts.

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Speaker 1: I'm not letting them like that.

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00:32:40,840 --> 00:32:45,280
Speaker 4: You didn't you didn't hear Elliott? She said, facts are facts.

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00:32:45,880 --> 00:32:49,640
Speaker 4: That's what she just said. I was grateful to be

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Speaker 4: on the board.

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Speaker 1: It was funny because when Lance, I'm not even one

547
00:32:54,880 --> 00:32:57,000
Speaker 1: of the million family members, but when Lance said what

548
00:32:57,080 --> 00:32:58,560
Speaker 1: he said, I was like, oh shit, I know exactly

549
00:32:58,600 --> 00:33:03,320
Speaker 1: what it. Yeah, But to answer Lance's question, yes, absolutely.

550
00:33:03,360 --> 00:33:08,000
Speaker 1: Like let's say my homegirl, Jasmine gets offended by something

551
00:33:08,040 --> 00:33:10,920
Speaker 1: and she drifts off what you guys do with a family.

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00:33:10,920 --> 00:33:12,400
Speaker 1: I don't know if you guys noticed this or not.

553
00:33:14,320 --> 00:33:17,280
Speaker 1: You don't often trying to think how to word this.

554
00:33:18,320 --> 00:33:21,200
Speaker 1: You don't spend a lot of time blaming each other.

555
00:33:21,960 --> 00:33:23,240
Speaker 1: You guys are at a point where you just like

556
00:33:23,240 --> 00:33:25,560
Speaker 1: you're just talking about how to make it better. And

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00:33:25,600 --> 00:33:28,160
Speaker 1: I actually, I actually love that's a very important thing.

558
00:33:28,280 --> 00:33:34,120
Speaker 1: Lance could have said, accountability is really important. So Gladys

559
00:33:34,160 --> 00:33:36,240
Speaker 1: has to acknowledge why she did this, this, and this,

560
00:33:36,360 --> 00:33:38,800
Speaker 1: or Jasmine has to But Lance did not say that.

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00:33:38,840 --> 00:33:41,440
Speaker 1: The only thing Lance said was I just want together

562
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Speaker 1: this and the cool thing for me as a therapist

563
00:33:45,120 --> 00:33:48,440
Speaker 1: who works with families a lot all of you said

564
00:33:48,560 --> 00:33:51,920
Speaker 1: kind of the same thing in different ways. So what

565
00:33:52,120 --> 00:33:55,920
Speaker 1: happens is we're all human beings. If we have a

566
00:33:55,960 --> 00:34:00,960
Speaker 1: group chat or whatever, and then like, Jasmine just kind

567
00:34:00,960 --> 00:34:04,240
Speaker 1: of is slower to respond over time. I want the

568
00:34:04,280 --> 00:34:06,720
Speaker 1: other board members to be like, Hey, how do we

569
00:34:06,760 --> 00:34:11,680
Speaker 1: get Jasmine back involved? How do we re engage Jasmine?

570
00:34:11,920 --> 00:34:12,719
Speaker 1: Does that make sense?

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00:34:13,480 --> 00:34:13,760
Speaker 3: Yep.

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00:34:15,040 --> 00:34:17,839
Speaker 1: The other responsibility that I want the board to have

573
00:34:19,560 --> 00:34:21,239
Speaker 1: is I want the board to be in charge of

574
00:34:21,360 --> 00:34:26,360
Speaker 1: planning family functions. I told you guys, all healthily bonded

575
00:34:26,360 --> 00:34:28,680
Speaker 1: families have three things. One of them is leadership you're

576
00:34:28,719 --> 00:34:33,680
Speaker 1: just talked about. The second one. We have family functions

577
00:34:34,360 --> 00:34:39,800
Speaker 1: that are like the annual Christmas tradition, or the once

578
00:34:39,840 --> 00:34:44,800
Speaker 1: a year July fourth barbecue, or the every spring break

579
00:34:44,920 --> 00:34:48,160
Speaker 1: family reunion something like that. So I want the board

580
00:34:48,239 --> 00:34:52,520
Speaker 1: to plan the family event. Does that make sense?

581
00:34:53,280 --> 00:34:53,520
Speaker 3: Yep?

582
00:34:54,560 --> 00:34:57,279
Speaker 1: You guys get together and you get to decide, So

583
00:34:57,320 --> 00:35:00,279
Speaker 1: what will be the you know, annual family te edition

584
00:35:01,280 --> 00:35:04,920
Speaker 1: and where will we host it? Do you want to

585
00:35:04,920 --> 00:35:07,319
Speaker 1: do it in Atlanta because maybe the weather's better, or

586
00:35:07,320 --> 00:35:09,360
Speaker 1: do we want to do it in Boston because so

587
00:35:09,440 --> 00:35:11,520
Speaker 1: the family's already in Boston. Do we want to do

588
00:35:11,560 --> 00:35:13,520
Speaker 1: it at disney World because somebody won the lottery? We

589
00:35:13,560 --> 00:35:16,839
Speaker 1: can fly around at disney World? What else? Right? But

590
00:35:16,880 --> 00:35:19,799
Speaker 1: like you guys are the ones in charge of what

591
00:35:19,920 --> 00:35:23,600
Speaker 1: will be the tradition? And then how will we how

592
00:35:23,600 --> 00:35:25,239
Speaker 1: will we do this, where will we do it? What

593
00:35:25,280 --> 00:35:26,799
Speaker 1: time of year will we do it? That sort of thing.

594
00:35:27,400 --> 00:35:32,359
Speaker 1: All healthily bonded families have traditions, and sometimes there really

595
00:35:32,400 --> 00:35:37,360
Speaker 1: stupid traditions. When I'm grown up, my uncle Jimmy was

596
00:35:37,480 --> 00:35:42,719
Speaker 1: Santa Claus. So every Christmas in Chicago, my uncle Jimmy

597
00:35:42,719 --> 00:35:45,279
Speaker 1: would put on a Santa Claus outfit and he would

598
00:35:45,280 --> 00:35:47,200
Speaker 1: be the one to give out the toys to all

599
00:35:47,239 --> 00:35:50,480
Speaker 1: of us kids. And then when I got older, he

600
00:35:50,600 --> 00:35:53,960
Speaker 1: told me he hated doing it. Right, He was like,

601
00:35:54,000 --> 00:35:56,759
Speaker 1: I hate doing this. I didn't know that as a kid,

602
00:35:56,800 --> 00:35:58,239
Speaker 1: but now I'm in my you know. Third, I was

603
00:35:58,239 --> 00:35:59,640
Speaker 1: in my I'm in my forty now and I'm in

604
00:35:59,680 --> 00:36:01,759
Speaker 1: my thirty he's at the time, and he told me

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00:36:01,840 --> 00:36:03,879
Speaker 1: he hated doing it. I said, why did you do it?

606
00:36:04,239 --> 00:36:06,680
Speaker 1: And let's go back to leadership and accountability. He said,

607
00:36:06,719 --> 00:36:12,839
Speaker 1: because your grandmother made me right. So it could be

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00:36:13,200 --> 00:36:18,200
Speaker 1: any tradition. But now the family board is in charge

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00:36:18,360 --> 00:36:24,440
Speaker 1: of the family traditions. Okay, you got it. That makes sense. Yes, okay.

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00:36:25,120 --> 00:36:29,560
Speaker 1: The third and final thing that healthily bonded families have

611
00:36:31,320 --> 00:36:38,680
Speaker 1: is they have routines that support connection. And I'll give

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00:36:38,680 --> 00:36:41,440
Speaker 1: you an example of a routine that supports connection. Something

613
00:36:41,600 --> 00:36:46,560
Speaker 1: like once a month, we have a big family zoom

614
00:36:46,960 --> 00:36:49,279
Speaker 1: and everybody has to talk for five minutes to share

615
00:36:49,280 --> 00:36:52,640
Speaker 1: how their lives are gone. Okay, right, because.

616
00:36:52,920 --> 00:36:56,239
Speaker 2: Well do you mean like the board members or.

617
00:36:57,000 --> 00:37:00,160
Speaker 1: The whole family. Now the board members can stay on

618
00:37:00,200 --> 00:37:03,560
Speaker 1: a little bit before or after to just talk about, Hey,

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00:37:03,680 --> 00:37:05,560
Speaker 1: did you guys notice Jewel is kind of looking a

620
00:37:05,600 --> 00:37:06,799
Speaker 1: little sad. What do we need to do?

621
00:37:08,040 --> 00:37:10,759
Speaker 4: So we have to get a we'll have to get

622
00:37:10,760 --> 00:37:12,319
Speaker 4: a oh what do you call it to be?

623
00:37:12,440 --> 00:37:15,600
Speaker 1: But to do that like a zoom account or something

624
00:37:15,640 --> 00:37:20,800
Speaker 1: like the count. But you do this once a week,

625
00:37:21,080 --> 00:37:24,440
Speaker 1: once every other week, or once a month something like that.

626
00:37:24,440 --> 00:37:28,239
Speaker 1: That facilitates family connection and that will help the board know, Hey,

627
00:37:28,280 --> 00:37:29,960
Speaker 1: we've done two or three of these zoom things and

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00:37:30,040 --> 00:37:33,400
Speaker 1: Jewel's not showing up. Somebody needs to reach out to

629
00:37:33,480 --> 00:37:36,480
Speaker 1: Jewel and just see how she's doing. Now, why this

630
00:37:36,560 --> 00:37:40,000
Speaker 1: is so important? It really doesn't matter whether or not

631
00:37:40,200 --> 00:37:43,479
Speaker 1: Jewel shows up in Jewel again, unfair, I'm totally picking

632
00:37:43,520 --> 00:37:46,920
Speaker 1: on you just because you represent the longer generation. But

633
00:37:47,160 --> 00:37:50,560
Speaker 1: it really doesn't matter whether or not Jewel shows up

634
00:37:50,640 --> 00:37:54,080
Speaker 1: or not. To be very on with you, what really matters.

635
00:37:54,760 --> 00:37:56,880
Speaker 1: Let's say Jewel doesn't show Let's say you guys do

636
00:37:57,400 --> 00:38:01,640
Speaker 1: a Zoom meeting the first Sunday of every month, and

637
00:38:01,920 --> 00:38:03,920
Speaker 1: you know, two or three Sundays go by and Jewel

638
00:38:03,920 --> 00:38:08,000
Speaker 1: doesn't show up. And then let's say, Chris calls Jewel

639
00:38:08,760 --> 00:38:13,400
Speaker 1: and she says, hey, Jewel, we noticed you haven't shown

640
00:38:13,480 --> 00:38:16,040
Speaker 1: up to the family Zoom meeting the past two or

641
00:38:16,080 --> 00:38:20,319
Speaker 1: three sundays. Are you okay? And Jewel says, yeah, I'm fine.

642
00:38:20,320 --> 00:38:22,439
Speaker 1: Everything's okay. I'm just busy with school, of work, whatever

643
00:38:22,480 --> 00:38:25,560
Speaker 1: I'm doing. And then Chris says, no problem, I was

644
00:38:25,600 --> 00:38:28,160
Speaker 1: just checking in on me, making sure you're okay, Just

645
00:38:28,239 --> 00:38:30,160
Speaker 1: so you know, here's the zoom link in case you

646
00:38:30,200 --> 00:38:32,720
Speaker 1: can make it to the next one. Jewel now knows

647
00:38:32,840 --> 00:38:38,319
Speaker 1: two very important things. There is a family function and

648
00:38:38,360 --> 00:38:41,040
Speaker 1: they want me in it, which makes her feel cared

649
00:38:41,080 --> 00:38:46,239
Speaker 1: for and loved. Right, that makes sense, and that's the

650
00:38:46,280 --> 00:38:48,600
Speaker 1: importance of the board because if you guys notice, hey,

651
00:38:48,640 --> 00:38:51,200
Speaker 1: Jewel hasn't been here, that's two or three times just

652
00:38:51,400 --> 00:38:54,279
Speaker 1: reaching out to her. Maybe the reaching out comes from

653
00:38:54,360 --> 00:38:56,680
Speaker 1: lance Er, maybe it comes from Chris, it comes from Gladys.

654
00:38:57,480 --> 00:38:59,440
Speaker 1: Just reaching out to her. It makes her feel loved

655
00:38:59,520 --> 00:39:04,680
Speaker 1: and important and valued and cared for. And you have

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00:39:04,719 --> 00:39:09,160
Speaker 1: a really healthy family bond. We do those things so

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00:39:09,200 --> 00:39:12,040
Speaker 1: we don't reach out to Jewel, so you just shun

658
00:39:12,080 --> 00:39:13,879
Speaker 1: into family. You don't like us if you're not showing

659
00:39:14,080 --> 00:39:16,600
Speaker 1: we don't reach out to her, excusatory reach out to her,

660
00:39:16,600 --> 00:39:19,040
Speaker 1: and we say we're just checking in on you because

661
00:39:19,040 --> 00:39:21,760
Speaker 1: we've noticed you haven't been around, and it lets Jewel

662
00:39:21,800 --> 00:39:23,520
Speaker 1: know like, wow, these people care about me and my

663
00:39:23,680 --> 00:39:29,919
Speaker 1: absence is noticed. Gotcha? Does that make sense?

664
00:39:30,840 --> 00:39:32,560
Speaker 3: Yeah?

665
00:39:33,040 --> 00:39:38,040
Speaker 1: So having leadership, which we talked about, Yeah, the leadership

666
00:39:38,080 --> 00:39:43,080
Speaker 1: will plan some sort of family bonding event which is

667
00:39:43,160 --> 00:39:47,640
Speaker 1: usually like a Christmas event or July fourth cookout or

668
00:39:48,680 --> 00:39:51,320
Speaker 1: a Juneteenth cookout or a you know, I had to

669
00:39:51,360 --> 00:39:53,600
Speaker 1: throw a June teenth cookout in it because you know,

670
00:39:53,880 --> 00:39:59,880
Speaker 1: I'm black. A New Year's Eve celebration or a family

671
00:40:00,040 --> 00:40:04,560
Speaker 1: union something like that. And then lastly something even if

672
00:40:04,560 --> 00:40:06,640
Speaker 1: you guys did, like a family book review and once

673
00:40:06,680 --> 00:40:08,239
Speaker 1: a month we all log into the zoom and talk

674
00:40:08,239 --> 00:40:11,520
Speaker 1: about the book that were Anything like that that keeps

675
00:40:11,560 --> 00:40:14,600
Speaker 1: us in contact using the digital things that we now

676
00:40:14,640 --> 00:40:18,200
Speaker 1: have access to, will begin to feel like we're building

677
00:40:18,200 --> 00:40:19,400
Speaker 1: a healthy family bond.

678
00:40:20,400 --> 00:40:25,640
Speaker 4: Okay, I like that. Thank you, Elliott. You're well very clear.

679
00:40:26,640 --> 00:40:28,080
Speaker 4: I got all the notes down.

680
00:40:27,920 --> 00:40:33,080
Speaker 6: Here, perfect, Thank you, Thank you, Bro for bringing it

681
00:40:33,160 --> 00:40:33,959
Speaker 6: up like.

682
00:40:36,000 --> 00:40:36,319
Speaker 1: A right.

683
00:40:37,160 --> 00:40:41,440
Speaker 8: I think it's great, Elliott, like to just piggyback on

684
00:40:41,520 --> 00:40:42,120
Speaker 8: what you're saying.

685
00:40:42,880 --> 00:40:45,440
Speaker 3: I do that like a lot already.

686
00:40:45,600 --> 00:40:49,240
Speaker 8: Like I'm in I'm reverally like invested in my church,

687
00:40:49,440 --> 00:40:51,879
Speaker 8: so I have I served in my church. So I'm

688
00:40:51,880 --> 00:40:54,759
Speaker 8: on a team, so I'm always communicating to it, do

689
00:40:55,400 --> 00:40:58,120
Speaker 8: like chats and zooms, and I'm in a men's group

690
00:40:58,160 --> 00:41:00,000
Speaker 8: and we do book readings and we do book stuff

691
00:41:00,840 --> 00:41:03,040
Speaker 8: and I actually went to the men's conference this year

692
00:41:03,080 --> 00:41:07,320
Speaker 8: for the first time. And it's like, I'm all about,

693
00:41:07,400 --> 00:41:11,920
Speaker 8: like I said, oneness and togetherness, you know, So I'm

694
00:41:11,920 --> 00:41:16,879
Speaker 8: all about communication, getting getting people together. And obviously why

695
00:41:16,880 --> 00:41:19,719
Speaker 8: wouldn't I want my family to be like that as well?

696
00:41:20,320 --> 00:41:24,400
Speaker 8: So those are all great ideas, and you know, we.

697
00:41:24,440 --> 00:41:26,680
Speaker 3: Got to crawl before we walk, you know. I think

698
00:41:26,800 --> 00:41:27,839
Speaker 3: as a board.

699
00:41:27,560 --> 00:41:31,799
Speaker 8: We need to stand firm in that and do what

700
00:41:32,239 --> 00:41:35,759
Speaker 8: you suggested, Elliott, and keep at it, not get discouraged

701
00:41:35,880 --> 00:41:37,880
Speaker 8: and then.

702
00:41:39,680 --> 00:41:40,000
Speaker 4: Sorry.

703
00:41:41,640 --> 00:41:44,960
Speaker 6: I really like just pointing it out so easily, like

704
00:41:45,000 --> 00:41:47,000
Speaker 6: and we already know, like you said, like you know

705
00:41:47,040 --> 00:41:50,200
Speaker 6: what I mean, faith based organization wise and us already

706
00:41:50,239 --> 00:41:53,440
Speaker 6: doing the work. It's just now we can really I

707
00:41:53,440 --> 00:41:56,440
Speaker 6: can really see it. I can really see it happening.

708
00:41:57,400 --> 00:42:01,479
Speaker 1: What Lance said is true, Like churches want to feel

709
00:42:01,520 --> 00:42:02,160
Speaker 1: like community.

710
00:42:02,320 --> 00:42:02,600
Speaker 4: Yep.

711
00:42:03,360 --> 00:42:07,359
Speaker 1: So if I join a church and I don't come

712
00:42:07,400 --> 00:42:10,040
Speaker 1: from a while for a while, someone from the church

713
00:42:10,120 --> 00:42:11,600
Speaker 1: is going to reach out to me, and it makes

714
00:42:11,600 --> 00:42:17,080
Speaker 1: me feel valuable because think about it. Think about So

715
00:42:17,600 --> 00:42:19,520
Speaker 1: let's say I own a restaurant. So Lance, I've been

716
00:42:19,520 --> 00:42:20,960
Speaker 1: picking on Jewel enough, so I want to pick on

717
00:42:20,960 --> 00:42:25,440
Speaker 1: you now. Lance. If I own a restaurant and I

718
00:42:25,560 --> 00:42:29,520
Speaker 1: hire Lance to be a chef at my restaurant and

719
00:42:30,000 --> 00:42:32,359
Speaker 1: for like two or three days, Lance doesn't show up,

720
00:42:33,040 --> 00:42:34,880
Speaker 1: and then he comes in after not showing up for

721
00:42:34,920 --> 00:42:37,680
Speaker 1: two or three days, and I'm like, oh, how you doing, Lance,

722
00:42:37,680 --> 00:42:39,759
Speaker 1: And I don't even notice that he was gone. Lance

723
00:42:39,840 --> 00:42:42,840
Speaker 1: is going to feel like I'm insignificant to this restaurant,

724
00:42:43,600 --> 00:42:46,040
Speaker 1: and he won't enjoy that feeling. Like, as human beings,

725
00:42:46,120 --> 00:42:49,839
Speaker 1: we don't like that. So by being able to do

726
00:42:49,880 --> 00:42:51,680
Speaker 1: something like this, you're gonna let the family know that

727
00:42:51,719 --> 00:42:54,600
Speaker 1: they matter. And they do matter. It's clear that they matter.

728
00:42:55,600 --> 00:43:02,280
Speaker 1: But I want Jewel and her thirty plus siblings, cousins

729
00:43:02,640 --> 00:43:07,520
Speaker 1: to feel like a we matter and be the older

730
00:43:07,960 --> 00:43:11,759
Speaker 1: faction of our family is going to lead us into

731
00:43:11,800 --> 00:43:16,840
Speaker 1: the next generation. And by the way, you guys haven't

732
00:43:16,880 --> 00:43:19,200
Speaker 1: had this in a long time because you didn't experience

733
00:43:19,239 --> 00:43:21,160
Speaker 1: it from the family that you were raised in either.

734
00:43:21,280 --> 00:43:23,880
Speaker 1: So it's very difficult to be able to do that

735
00:43:23,880 --> 00:43:26,719
Speaker 1: when you guys are raised in such a disjointed way.

736
00:43:27,680 --> 00:43:34,560
Speaker 8: Elliott, I want to interject with that part. With my

737
00:43:34,680 --> 00:43:36,279
Speaker 8: mom's side of the family, we.

738
00:43:36,200 --> 00:43:39,600
Speaker 3: Are very We do everything that you said we should

739
00:43:39,640 --> 00:43:40,799
Speaker 3: be doing. Like we do.

740
00:43:41,840 --> 00:43:47,040
Speaker 8: We do a Christmas party every year. Everyone takes turns,

741
00:43:47,080 --> 00:43:49,719
Speaker 8: like you know. And I love the fact that you

742
00:43:49,760 --> 00:43:52,920
Speaker 8: brought up your grandmother. Like my grandma passed away. It's

743
00:43:52,960 --> 00:43:56,239
Speaker 8: been about six seven years now, I think about and

744
00:43:56,360 --> 00:44:02,719
Speaker 8: she was the rock and I've noticed that, like she

745
00:44:02,800 --> 00:44:06,279
Speaker 8: has two other sisters and they're still alive. But I

746
00:44:06,400 --> 00:44:08,880
Speaker 8: noticed that like when she passed away, like you know,

747
00:44:10,360 --> 00:44:13,160
Speaker 8: things started changing a little bit, like people start getting

748
00:44:13,160 --> 00:44:15,840
Speaker 8: a little distance and stuff like that. That's why I

749
00:44:15,880 --> 00:44:19,160
Speaker 8: felt it was important that we recognized how we were

750
00:44:19,160 --> 00:44:21,799
Speaker 8: brought up and well, don't forget that. So like when

751
00:44:21,840 --> 00:44:24,239
Speaker 8: I had my wedding, I had my great aunt there,

752
00:44:24,520 --> 00:44:28,080
Speaker 8: my grandmother's sisters, and it was like it was like

753
00:44:28,160 --> 00:44:30,520
Speaker 8: my grandmother was there, you know what I mean, because

754
00:44:30,520 --> 00:44:33,120
Speaker 8: of everything that they instilled in us, like you know

755
00:44:33,160 --> 00:44:36,239
Speaker 8: what I mean, and the closeness and everything like that.

756
00:44:36,400 --> 00:44:39,000
Speaker 8: And I want that for my for my siblings, for

757
00:44:39,120 --> 00:44:44,200
Speaker 8: my father, you know, because like unfortunately, like because of

758
00:44:44,800 --> 00:44:46,960
Speaker 8: the way our dad was moving, we didn't we couldn't

759
00:44:47,000 --> 00:44:50,120
Speaker 8: get that because we were raised by our mothers or

760
00:44:50,440 --> 00:44:52,160
Speaker 8: our grandmothers.

761
00:44:51,680 --> 00:44:54,439
Speaker 3: Or like you know, other people, so we really didn't

762
00:44:54,480 --> 00:44:54,759
Speaker 3: get that.

763
00:44:54,880 --> 00:44:57,200
Speaker 8: And meeting at like later on in our lives when

764
00:44:57,200 --> 00:45:00,600
Speaker 8: we were already parents and doing our own thing, you know,

765
00:45:01,239 --> 00:45:05,080
Speaker 8: I think this is a like a rebirth of what

766
00:45:05,200 --> 00:45:06,160
Speaker 8: our family can be.

767
00:45:06,880 --> 00:45:07,400
Speaker 1: I love that.

768
00:45:08,360 --> 00:45:09,359
Speaker 2: Can I add on to that?

769
00:45:10,280 --> 00:45:10,520
Speaker 1: Yes?

770
00:45:10,560 --> 00:45:16,160
Speaker 2: Please, I just wanted to agree and like, you know,

771
00:45:16,280 --> 00:45:20,640
Speaker 2: not to pressure on you guys, but like I'm not gonna,

772
00:45:20,760 --> 00:45:22,680
Speaker 2: like like you said, like if I want to be

773
00:45:22,800 --> 00:45:27,680
Speaker 2: like you know, with my cousins speaking for my generation,

774
00:45:28,400 --> 00:45:30,640
Speaker 2: we're not going to show up on our own I know.

775
00:45:30,800 --> 00:45:32,280
Speaker 3: We're very, very very.

776
00:45:32,200 --> 00:45:34,879
Speaker 2: Quick to cancel something and be like, oh my head

777
00:45:34,960 --> 00:45:37,319
Speaker 2: hurts when they head this on her, and they'll just

778
00:45:37,920 --> 00:45:41,640
Speaker 2: they'll stay home because they don't want to. And I

779
00:45:41,680 --> 00:45:45,880
Speaker 2: am guilty of some of that, but you know, with

780
00:45:45,880 --> 00:45:49,920
Speaker 2: with you know, parents push that would definitely help. And

781
00:45:49,960 --> 00:45:51,799
Speaker 2: like like you were saying with your grandma, like I

782
00:45:51,840 --> 00:45:54,160
Speaker 2: know my grandma, she's out of the recent why like

783
00:45:54,320 --> 00:45:58,839
Speaker 2: my family on this side comes together like I don't.

784
00:45:58,960 --> 00:46:01,440
Speaker 2: I probably wouldn't see then my family I had just

785
00:46:01,480 --> 00:46:04,319
Speaker 2: seen when we had to get together, if you know,

786
00:46:04,360 --> 00:46:06,279
Speaker 2: if my grandma didn't get it, like she's kind of

787
00:46:06,320 --> 00:46:10,840
Speaker 2: that good too. So yeah, yeah, I pushed that agenda

788
00:46:10,880 --> 00:46:11,279
Speaker 2: as well.

789
00:46:11,600 --> 00:46:15,239
Speaker 3: And thank you Jewels for your accountability. I appreciate that.

790
00:46:16,239 --> 00:46:19,040
Speaker 3: The youngest one in the bunch accountability.

791
00:46:19,080 --> 00:46:19,520
Speaker 1: I love it.

792
00:46:19,719 --> 00:46:24,279
Speaker 2: I'm aware of my generation. We're not good with connections.

793
00:46:24,800 --> 00:46:29,840
Speaker 1: It's so which is why I think I really want Lance, Gladys,

794
00:46:29,920 --> 00:46:33,120
Speaker 1: Jasmine and Chris to be the ones to hold you

795
00:46:33,160 --> 00:46:37,440
Speaker 1: guys accountable and valuable connection is.

796
00:46:38,680 --> 00:46:42,759
Speaker 2: And I want to say also, I'm not sure if

797
00:46:42,760 --> 00:46:45,760
Speaker 2: the I don't know if the right word is accountability

798
00:46:45,840 --> 00:46:51,319
Speaker 2: because I, like Jewel mentioned, my mom is the rock

799
00:46:51,480 --> 00:46:56,200
Speaker 2: of our family as well, whereas you know, that's a

800
00:46:56,200 --> 00:46:59,160
Speaker 2: lot of pressure for her because it used to be

801
00:46:59,239 --> 00:47:05,920
Speaker 2: my grandma until she passed but with also the loss

802
00:47:05,960 --> 00:47:12,279
Speaker 2: in my family, specifically trying to get family together and

803
00:47:12,400 --> 00:47:16,640
Speaker 2: it just falling apart. Me personally trying to get you know,

804
00:47:16,800 --> 00:47:20,320
Speaker 2: the family back together and not being so much pressure

805
00:47:20,360 --> 00:47:24,360
Speaker 2: on my mom, and literally every time it felt like

806
00:47:24,440 --> 00:47:28,440
Speaker 2: it fell through, I tend to I guess I'm taking accountability.

807
00:47:28,440 --> 00:47:32,680
Speaker 4: I guess accountability is the right word jet reality.

808
00:47:32,400 --> 00:47:33,719
Speaker 1: I guess, But.

809
00:47:35,160 --> 00:47:40,560
Speaker 2: To get weary of wanting to even volunteer or even

810
00:47:40,640 --> 00:47:43,400
Speaker 2: make that next step, because it's like, what's the point

811
00:47:43,480 --> 00:47:44,960
Speaker 2: if nobody's going to show up?

812
00:47:45,160 --> 00:47:48,160
Speaker 1: But you know, yeah, but Jasmine like the reason why

813
00:47:49,320 --> 00:47:53,080
Speaker 1: I want to go about it with you, Gladys Lance

814
00:47:53,160 --> 00:47:58,160
Speaker 1: and Chris sharing accountability and sharing the responsibility. It's too much,

815
00:47:58,239 --> 00:48:00,640
Speaker 1: like I if I just say, hey, Lance, you're in

816
00:48:00,760 --> 00:48:03,680
Speaker 1: charge of briating like Lance is probably the kind of

817
00:48:03,680 --> 00:48:05,279
Speaker 1: person that say, okay, I'll go ahead and do it.

818
00:48:05,320 --> 00:48:07,360
Speaker 1: But then it's it's too much on one person shoulder.

819
00:48:07,640 --> 00:48:09,520
Speaker 1: If I said to Chris, hey, Chris, I want you to

820
00:48:09,520 --> 00:48:12,040
Speaker 1: do it, it's too much on one person's shoulder. But

821
00:48:12,160 --> 00:48:14,799
Speaker 1: what happens is if all four of you doing it,

822
00:48:15,680 --> 00:48:17,799
Speaker 1: then you get to support one another because it won't

823
00:48:17,840 --> 00:48:21,680
Speaker 1: be easy Jewels generation, they're knuckleheads, they're no saling to

824
00:48:21,800 --> 00:48:24,680
Speaker 1: want to show up immediately, and you guys have to

825
00:48:24,719 --> 00:48:26,960
Speaker 1: support each other. And then those first couple of months,

826
00:48:27,160 --> 00:48:29,319
Speaker 1: you might be calling all thirty of them like hey,

827
00:48:29,320 --> 00:48:31,640
Speaker 1: I know this, you didn't show up. But then they're

828
00:48:31,680 --> 00:48:34,120
Speaker 1: gonna feel loved. Then they're gonna feel valuable, they're gonna

829
00:48:34,120 --> 00:48:37,399
Speaker 1: feel cared for, and before you know it, Jewel's gonna

830
00:48:37,400 --> 00:48:40,120
Speaker 1: trickle in, and then Jewels gonna call her siblings and

831
00:48:40,160 --> 00:48:42,960
Speaker 1: they're gonna trickle in, and before you know it, you've

832
00:48:43,239 --> 00:48:48,280
Speaker 1: you've messed around and created a community within your families.

833
00:48:48,800 --> 00:48:51,799
Speaker 1: And that is when you have victory. That is when

834
00:48:51,840 --> 00:48:54,480
Speaker 1: you have success, and that is when you have a

835
00:48:54,600 --> 00:48:57,920
Speaker 1: healthy bond. And that to go back to something Lance said,

836
00:48:57,960 --> 00:49:00,480
Speaker 1: which I think and all of you have said it

837
00:49:00,520 --> 00:49:02,640
Speaker 1: in our different conversations, Like I know Chris has said it,

838
00:49:02,680 --> 00:49:05,960
Speaker 1: I know Gladys said it. Yeah, Jasmine, Lance said it tonight.

839
00:49:06,520 --> 00:49:11,560
Speaker 1: That is when the family curse is broken. Like that

840
00:49:11,680 --> 00:49:16,520
Speaker 1: is when those old family kind of generational traumas are broken. Wow,

841
00:49:17,440 --> 00:49:19,920
Speaker 1: when before you know it, you won't see Jewel and

842
00:49:19,960 --> 00:49:21,880
Speaker 1: two or three other cousins. You may what happened. Oh

843
00:49:21,960 --> 00:49:24,319
Speaker 1: my god, it's working. And then the next time there'll

844
00:49:24,320 --> 00:49:26,279
Speaker 1: be four or five, then six or seven, and then

845
00:49:26,280 --> 00:49:28,720
Speaker 1: before you know it, it's just it's part of their routine.

846
00:49:28,840 --> 00:49:31,359
Speaker 1: Jewel and her cousins will all know, Hey, the first

847
00:49:31,400 --> 00:49:34,040
Speaker 1: son every month, this is just what we do, and

848
00:49:34,840 --> 00:49:38,000
Speaker 1: that it'll take a while, and it'll take the four

849
00:49:38,040 --> 00:49:41,000
Speaker 1: of you supporting each other and get there. But that's

850
00:49:41,040 --> 00:49:44,880
Speaker 1: how you know you have victory, because Jewel will just

851
00:49:44,920 --> 00:49:46,400
Speaker 1: show up with her cousins.

852
00:49:47,080 --> 00:49:48,640
Speaker 3: And well, I look forward to this.

853
00:49:48,920 --> 00:49:52,160
Speaker 4: Oh, ok, it can work.

854
00:49:52,200 --> 00:49:53,040
Speaker 1: So it can work.

855
00:49:53,120 --> 00:49:53,799
Speaker 3: We can do it.

856
00:49:53,960 --> 00:49:55,960
Speaker 4: No, I really feel it will.

857
00:49:56,600 --> 00:49:59,520
Speaker 1: It might be a little a lot of pressure, all them.

858
00:49:59,440 --> 00:50:05,320
Speaker 2: Kids, all the mouths of the Sour Patch kids.

859
00:50:09,000 --> 00:50:11,640
Speaker 1: All sweet in the middle. All right, Well, first of all,

860
00:50:11,800 --> 00:50:13,319
Speaker 1: how did we do. Do you guys find our time

861
00:50:13,560 --> 00:50:22,680
Speaker 1: useful today? Yeah? Absolutely? Well, yes, crossing path again, yes.

862
00:50:22,640 --> 00:50:23,120
Speaker 4: Thank you?

863
00:50:23,800 --> 00:50:26,000
Speaker 2: And and and you might you guys just might get

864
00:50:26,000 --> 00:50:27,240
Speaker 2: an invite to the reunion.

865
00:50:30,640 --> 00:50:35,200
Speaker 1: I'm coming to get a plate. As we bring this

866
00:50:35,320 --> 00:50:38,640
Speaker 1: conversation and this season to a close, I want to

867
00:50:38,680 --> 00:50:42,160
Speaker 1: take a moment to acknowledge what we just heard. Over

868
00:50:42,200 --> 00:50:45,000
Speaker 1: the course of these sessions, this family did something that

869
00:50:45,040 --> 00:50:48,359
Speaker 1: many families never take the time to do. They sat

870
00:50:48,480 --> 00:50:53,320
Speaker 1: down together, They listened. Sometimes they didn't do it very well,

871
00:50:53,719 --> 00:50:57,560
Speaker 1: but they made the effort. They spoke honestly about the past,

872
00:50:58,200 --> 00:51:02,400
Speaker 1: the pain that still lingers, the estrangement, the patterns that

873
00:51:02,400 --> 00:51:06,440
Speaker 1: they are seeking to break, and most importantly, they chose

874
00:51:06,520 --> 00:51:10,360
Speaker 1: to look forward, allowing that direction to be led with

875
00:51:10,400 --> 00:51:13,480
Speaker 1: the very theme of this final conversation, a word that

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Speaker 1: stood out to all of us and likely to you

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Speaker 1: as well at home, accountability, Because one of the most

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Speaker 1: difficult truths about family is this connection doesn't maintain itself.

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Speaker 1: It requires effort, it requires leadership, It requires people willing

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Speaker 1: to reach out, even when it's one sided or carries

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Speaker 1: the weight of yesterday's missed connections. But we know breaking

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Speaker 1: generational patterns doesn't happen in one conversation, and this family

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Speaker 1: may very well be at a new beginning, especially as

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Speaker 1: new family members continue to join the conversation. It's not

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Speaker 1: necessarily hard, but it won't be easy either. It happens

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Speaker 1: during those moments when someone notices another person's absence and says, hey,

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Speaker 1: are you okay? Through that awareness, that's how families rebuild.

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Speaker 1: That's how generational trauma begins to heal, and that's how

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Speaker 1: the next generation, people like Jewel and her cousins, learn

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Speaker 1: what family truly means. When you think about connection with

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Speaker 1: your family, ask yourself, what role do I want to

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Speaker 1: play in my family's healing. Is there someone in my

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Speaker 1: family I've been meaning to reach out to? What small

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Speaker 1: step could I take this week to reconnect with someone?

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Speaker 1: What traditions or routines could help my family stay connected

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Speaker 1: over time? How can I work on my own personal

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Speaker 1: healing so that I show up in healthier ways with

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Speaker 1: people I love? And maybe the most important question of all,

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Speaker 1: If the next generation in my family is watching, what

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Speaker 1: kind of example do I want them to see? I

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Speaker 1: thank this family for their time, vulnerability, and willingness to

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Speaker 1: answer and show up session after session. Thank you for

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Speaker 1: allowing us to witness your journey, and to everyone listening,

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Speaker 1: thank you for being part of the conversation. I'm Elliott Connie,

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Speaker 1: and this has been another season of family therapy. See

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Speaker 1: you next time. I would love to hear from you

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Speaker 1: about your healing journey, your family, and your feedback. Leave

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Speaker 1: a review, send a DM, Connect with me on socials

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Speaker 1: at Elliott Speaks and you can also send me a

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Speaker 1: text message to nine seven two four two six two

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Speaker 1: six four zero. Family Therapy is a production of iHeartRadio

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Speaker 1: and The Black Effect Podcast Network. Special thanks to our

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