1
00:00:00,600 --> 00:00:02,559
Speaker 1: Thanks for listening to the best of The Jason Smith

2
00:00:02,600 --> 00:00:05,200
Speaker 1: Show with Mike Carmen podcast. Be sure to catch us

3
00:00:05,240 --> 00:00:07,960
Speaker 1: live every weeknight from ten pm to two am Eastern

4
00:00:08,240 --> 00:00:11,320
Speaker 1: seven to eleven pm Pacific on Fox Sports Radio. Find

5
00:00:11,360 --> 00:00:13,480
Speaker 1: your local station for The Jason Smith Show with Mike

6
00:00:13,480 --> 00:00:17,040
Speaker 1: Harmon at Foxsports Radio dot com, or stream us live

7
00:00:17,160 --> 00:00:20,400
Speaker 1: every night on the iHeartRadio app by searching FSR.

8
00:00:21,320 --> 00:00:24,079
Speaker 2: This is the best of the Jason Smith Show with

9
00:00:24,160 --> 00:00:26,320
Speaker 2: Mike Harmon on Fox Sports Radio.

10
00:00:28,800 --> 00:00:31,600
Speaker 1: Step right up, Ben, sweep the Mets.

11
00:00:31,960 --> 00:00:33,040
Speaker 3: I just kill yourself.

12
00:00:33,440 --> 00:00:37,320
Speaker 1: The Mets are swinging in missing that ball. The other

13
00:00:37,440 --> 00:00:39,840
Speaker 1: team's home runs over the wall.

14
00:00:40,280 --> 00:00:42,760
Speaker 3: This isn't entertaining anymore.

15
00:00:45,040 --> 00:00:47,400
Speaker 1: I would really like, you know, here's my favorite. I

16
00:00:47,479 --> 00:00:49,760
Speaker 1: ask for so little, right, I asked for so little here.

17
00:00:50,040 --> 00:00:53,360
Speaker 1: I would really like if the Mets are going to

18
00:00:53,400 --> 00:00:55,520
Speaker 1: lose this game right where where you know? They will

19
00:00:55,520 --> 00:00:58,000
Speaker 1: allowed five and the seventh to the Mariners. They're losing eleven,

20
00:00:58,120 --> 00:01:00,520
Speaker 1: nine and the ninth inning. If they're gonna lose, lose

21
00:01:00,560 --> 00:01:03,040
Speaker 1: before the Dodgers Padre starts. Okay, so I can have

22
00:01:03,040 --> 00:01:05,520
Speaker 1: a clean slate for the biggest baseball.

23
00:01:05,040 --> 00:01:05,880
Speaker 4: Series of the year.

24
00:01:06,040 --> 00:01:07,800
Speaker 1: All right, I don't want to have this hanging If

25
00:01:07,800 --> 00:01:10,760
Speaker 1: you're gonna lose, I don't want it hanging over me

26
00:01:11,040 --> 00:01:13,119
Speaker 1: and have to worry about going back and forth everything

27
00:01:13,160 --> 00:01:16,120
Speaker 1: I like lose so I can go right to Padres Dodgers.

28
00:01:16,240 --> 00:01:17,720
Speaker 4: Well, I mean, you gotta have a little bit of

29
00:01:17,760 --> 00:01:19,800
Speaker 4: suffering in you gotta pay for your sins.

30
00:01:20,240 --> 00:01:22,920
Speaker 1: What do you what do you think it's been all suffering?

31
00:01:22,920 --> 00:01:30,440
Speaker 1: What are you talking about.

32
00:01:29,040 --> 00:01:32,560
Speaker 4: To Yeah, a level brated Beatles day and everything.

33
00:01:32,640 --> 00:01:35,039
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, that's great, and another l and another it's

34
00:01:35,040 --> 00:01:35,880
Speaker 1: gonna be another.

35
00:01:35,840 --> 00:01:39,040
Speaker 4: Yet yeah, okay, Well, I mean it's inevitable. As he

36
00:01:39,120 --> 00:01:41,480
Speaker 4: walks the bas is full, of course it is, of

37
00:01:41,480 --> 00:01:42,000
Speaker 4: course it is.

38
00:01:42,080 --> 00:01:44,440
Speaker 1: It's I mean, if you're gonna, I mean, I may

39
00:01:44,520 --> 00:01:46,440
Speaker 1: just I may just have to pull the plug and

40
00:01:46,480 --> 00:01:48,720
Speaker 1: just go over to Padres Dodgers and in uh in

41
00:01:48,800 --> 00:01:50,400
Speaker 1: six minutes, I just have to do it. So you know,

42
00:01:50,400 --> 00:01:51,880
Speaker 1: it's sorry, I gotta just go.

43
00:01:52,040 --> 00:01:52,360
Speaker 5: I gotta.

44
00:01:52,440 --> 00:01:54,440
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, I can't anymore.

45
00:01:54,720 --> 00:01:57,920
Speaker 4: Iguez hits a grand slam on you, But then I'm

46
00:01:57,920 --> 00:02:01,640
Speaker 4: gonna throw my TV out the window, which is one

47
00:02:01,640 --> 00:02:04,040
Speaker 4: of my favorite gifts is the guy that yanks's TV

48
00:02:04,120 --> 00:02:05,720
Speaker 4: out of the wall and throws the window.

49
00:02:05,880 --> 00:02:07,720
Speaker 3: Throw yourself out the window. They're so bad.

50
00:02:08,480 --> 00:02:11,040
Speaker 4: The better one is just going back to the old

51
00:02:11,080 --> 00:02:14,440
Speaker 4: Elvis theory of having a long line of TVs and

52
00:02:14,520 --> 00:02:16,680
Speaker 4: waiting and if you didn't like what was on, you'd

53
00:02:16,720 --> 00:02:17,240
Speaker 4: just shoot it.

54
00:02:17,800 --> 00:02:19,880
Speaker 1: Yeah no, but here's it, shoot it now. But here's

55
00:02:19,880 --> 00:02:21,919
Speaker 1: the thing is is I don't really I don't really care.

56
00:02:22,000 --> 00:02:24,600
Speaker 1: I can't do that because you know the Knicks. I mean,

57
00:02:24,639 --> 00:02:26,480
Speaker 1: come on, this is gonna be our year, right, this

58
00:02:26,520 --> 00:02:27,760
Speaker 1: is how we go to the finals.

59
00:02:28,120 --> 00:02:29,920
Speaker 4: It gives you a couple of months to replace it.

60
00:02:30,080 --> 00:02:31,760
Speaker 4: Give me that a bigger TV. Look, you got out

61
00:02:31,760 --> 00:02:34,720
Speaker 4: of the inning, first ball, swinging Rodriguez lines to write.

62
00:02:34,880 --> 00:02:37,400
Speaker 4: Now you get you just need three in the bottom

63
00:02:37,440 --> 00:02:38,160
Speaker 4: of the ninth.

64
00:02:38,400 --> 00:02:40,800
Speaker 1: Man, I'll tell you, well, all right, let I'll take two.

65
00:02:41,240 --> 00:02:43,320
Speaker 1: I'll take two. I'll also take a quick one two

66
00:02:43,400 --> 00:02:45,280
Speaker 1: three so I can get over to Padres. Dodgers.

67
00:02:45,880 --> 00:02:48,960
Speaker 4: Really, I mean this screen experience, let's go. I mean,

68
00:02:49,040 --> 00:02:52,519
Speaker 4: so this is the baseball series of the year. There

69
00:02:52,520 --> 00:02:56,679
Speaker 4: has not been one bigger where the Dodgers somehow enter

70
00:02:56,760 --> 00:03:00,840
Speaker 4: this series trailing by a game. In the NL West,

71
00:03:00,919 --> 00:03:04,800
Speaker 4: it has been a trade deadline where The Padres have

72
00:03:05,080 --> 00:03:08,200
Speaker 4: just continued their hot play. They've added to their bullpen.

73
00:03:08,240 --> 00:03:11,720
Speaker 4: They're closing games out. They're bringing relievers in the third inning.

74
00:03:11,720 --> 00:03:14,760
Speaker 1: Even in shutout games when the starting pitchers given up

75
00:03:14,760 --> 00:03:17,440
Speaker 1: no hits and hasn't thrown a ball, they're still going

76
00:03:17,440 --> 00:03:19,880
Speaker 1: to the bullpen and the third they are winning. This

77
00:03:20,000 --> 00:03:22,120
Speaker 1: is they are playing as well as they have. The

78
00:03:22,200 --> 00:03:25,919
Speaker 1: Dodgers are questionable. If this is a Padres sweep, and

79
00:03:26,240 --> 00:03:28,360
Speaker 1: clearly you look at which team is playing better going

80
00:03:28,400 --> 00:03:33,280
Speaker 1: in like that, that that might that might basically have

81
00:03:33,440 --> 00:03:35,760
Speaker 1: the Dodgers have to settle for a wild card if

82
00:03:35,760 --> 00:03:38,480
Speaker 1: this is a four game lead coming out, and I

83
00:03:38,520 --> 00:03:40,840
Speaker 1: can't say it's not gonna happen even Look, Dodgers are

84
00:03:40,840 --> 00:03:43,080
Speaker 1: home everything. But the Dodgers aren't playing well. They got

85
00:03:43,080 --> 00:03:45,600
Speaker 1: problems up and down the lineup, problems with pitching. The

86
00:03:45,640 --> 00:03:48,160
Speaker 1: Padres have none, which is clearly means the Dodgers will

87
00:03:48,160 --> 00:03:49,640
Speaker 1: get five in the first and win this game nine

88
00:03:49,680 --> 00:03:51,840
Speaker 1: to one. But look what you're doing, You're you're salting

89
00:03:51,920 --> 00:03:55,200
Speaker 1: them away before the saltiest of them all, Clayton Kershaw

90
00:03:55,280 --> 00:03:57,440
Speaker 1: takes the mound and throws that first pitch at seven

91
00:03:57,480 --> 00:04:01,560
Speaker 1: to ten, seven eleven, not seven or nine seven ten.

92
00:04:01,600 --> 00:04:04,240
Speaker 4: Because he's salty. You're talking sweep already. I mean, that's

93
00:04:04,320 --> 00:04:05,480
Speaker 4: that's dangerous stuff.

94
00:04:05,720 --> 00:04:07,760
Speaker 1: You don't think if you're Manny Machado, you're fighting some

95
00:04:07,840 --> 00:04:09,560
Speaker 1: way to delay the start of the game by a

96
00:04:09,600 --> 00:04:12,840
Speaker 1: minute to get so seven eleven. There's another minute when

97
00:04:12,880 --> 00:04:13,760
Speaker 1: Kershaw throws.

98
00:04:13,520 --> 00:04:15,480
Speaker 4: The trying to get under his skin, like you start

99
00:04:15,520 --> 00:04:18,120
Speaker 4: walking up towards the batter's box, and so you got

100
00:04:18,120 --> 00:04:21,279
Speaker 4: a cramp in your cap allegedly.

101
00:04:21,120 --> 00:04:22,800
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, give me a second, give me a second.

102
00:04:22,960 --> 00:04:24,560
Speaker 4: Oh for a second.

103
00:04:24,800 --> 00:04:27,360
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, And they bring out the the the what

104
00:04:27,440 --> 00:04:28,880
Speaker 1: the cold stuff that they spray on.

105
00:04:29,360 --> 00:04:31,320
Speaker 4: They need the band in the whole nine yards hold.

106
00:04:31,360 --> 00:04:33,039
Speaker 1: But the trainer says, listen, it is nothing. It's just

107
00:04:33,120 --> 00:04:35,160
Speaker 1: like al just it just protects you. Don't worry. It's nothing.

108
00:04:35,200 --> 00:04:36,760
Speaker 1: I just here you go. Okay, very good, you get

109
00:04:36,800 --> 00:04:38,280
Speaker 1: up there. It hit all right, that's fantastic, all right.

110
00:04:39,760 --> 00:04:42,479
Speaker 4: Yeah, eight and a half runs is the was the open.

111
00:04:42,520 --> 00:04:44,240
Speaker 4: It's up to nine and a half. As we get

112
00:04:44,320 --> 00:04:45,560
Speaker 4: ready for first pitch.

113
00:04:45,960 --> 00:04:49,520
Speaker 1: It's seven twelve. We can start now. He's never gonna

114
00:04:49,560 --> 00:04:52,400
Speaker 1: get out of the first inning. Uh this again, this

115
00:04:52,560 --> 00:04:56,360
Speaker 1: is some again biggest baseball series of the year. Nothing

116
00:04:56,360 --> 00:04:59,040
Speaker 1: else has closed. Padres Dodgers just a few minutes away.

117
00:04:59,040 --> 00:05:01,440
Speaker 1: Will of course keep you up to on this throughout the.

118
00:05:01,400 --> 00:05:05,880
Speaker 4: Stats stats on Kershaw. If it does get delayed, how

119
00:05:05,880 --> 00:05:06,279
Speaker 4: does that?

120
00:05:07,760 --> 00:05:09,800
Speaker 1: I don't, I don't. I don't. You know what I

121
00:05:09,839 --> 00:05:12,640
Speaker 1: would have to ask Ai, But I don't think it's good.

122
00:05:13,440 --> 00:05:15,600
Speaker 1: I don't. I don't think it's good. What what happens

123
00:05:15,640 --> 00:05:20,680
Speaker 1: when Kershaw? Okay, what happens? Okay, it auto filled for me?

124
00:05:20,800 --> 00:05:23,479
Speaker 1: What happened to Odell Beckham Junior? Right, that's the auto film.

125
00:05:23,560 --> 00:05:30,440
Speaker 1: That's what happens when Kershaw has a game start late.

126
00:05:30,920 --> 00:05:35,440
Speaker 1: Let's see. The answer is uh, it makes him difficult

127
00:05:35,480 --> 00:05:37,680
Speaker 1: to regain his ramp up. It could lead to a

128
00:05:37,720 --> 00:05:40,160
Speaker 1: shortened outing, with the team opting to use the bullpen

129
00:05:40,240 --> 00:05:43,440
Speaker 1: to cover the longer duration of the game. Basically, Frostburg,

130
00:05:43,520 --> 00:05:46,040
Speaker 1: you're screwed. There you go, there's a that I'm not

131
00:05:46,080 --> 00:05:46,640
Speaker 1: a nuts fan.

132
00:05:48,560 --> 00:05:50,960
Speaker 4: Yeah, but there was no specificity to that at all.

133
00:05:51,680 --> 00:05:52,520
Speaker 3: What are you talking about?

134
00:05:53,440 --> 00:05:54,560
Speaker 4: No, no, not you the way.

135
00:05:55,040 --> 00:05:56,560
Speaker 3: Yeah, he's screwed.

136
00:05:57,920 --> 00:06:00,920
Speaker 1: If they start the game late. I just read it.

137
00:06:01,040 --> 00:06:02,680
Speaker 1: The whole thing off of Ai what happens when the

138
00:06:02,680 --> 00:06:03,360
Speaker 1: game starts late.

139
00:06:03,880 --> 00:06:05,719
Speaker 3: AI also has the Mets winning tonight.

140
00:06:06,640 --> 00:06:09,440
Speaker 4: They did get in one hundred and thirteen bucks for

141
00:06:09,520 --> 00:06:13,159
Speaker 4: this game, Oh boy, fifty strong as the Dodgers host

142
00:06:13,200 --> 00:06:13,760
Speaker 4: the Podgers.

143
00:06:14,320 --> 00:06:16,640
Speaker 1: So we'll keep you updated on this throughout the night.

144
00:06:16,720 --> 00:06:18,840
Speaker 1: Of course, this hour the show brought to you by

145
00:06:18,839 --> 00:06:21,560
Speaker 1: ti rack dot Com. For over forty years, Tyrack's been

146
00:06:21,560 --> 00:06:23,920
Speaker 1: helping customers find the right tires for how what where

147
00:06:23,960 --> 00:06:27,160
Speaker 1: they drive. Shipped fast and free back by free Road,

148
00:06:27,200 --> 00:06:30,840
Speaker 1: has protection with convenient installation options like mobile tire installation.

149
00:06:31,160 --> 00:06:35,920
Speaker 1: Ti rack dot Com is the way tire buying should be. Meanwhile,

150
00:06:36,440 --> 00:06:41,440
Speaker 1: two preseason games in the NFL tonight, and it's really

151
00:06:41,480 --> 00:06:43,080
Speaker 1: hard to do this. I mean, first, while we got

152
00:06:43,120 --> 00:06:46,679
Speaker 1: Kansas City, Seattle is just underway. Titans lead the Falcons

153
00:06:46,760 --> 00:06:49,320
Speaker 1: right now, twenty three to twenty late in the fourth court.

154
00:06:49,240 --> 00:06:50,520
Speaker 3: And the Chiefs are already cheating.

155
00:06:50,920 --> 00:06:54,000
Speaker 1: This is already they they're giving it. They gave them

156
00:06:54,000 --> 00:06:55,719
Speaker 1: a first down. They said Mahomes got late hit on

157
00:06:55,720 --> 00:06:56,080
Speaker 1: a handle.

158
00:06:56,120 --> 00:06:57,599
Speaker 3: They don't even have the ball. They gave them a

159
00:06:57,640 --> 00:06:58,080
Speaker 3: first down.

160
00:07:00,360 --> 00:07:03,360
Speaker 1: But this is really hard to do, Mike. But absolutely

161
00:07:03,440 --> 00:07:07,400
Speaker 1: this has happened the number one overall pick in the

162
00:07:07,560 --> 00:07:13,120
Speaker 1: NFL draft, who is a quarterback, has been absolutely invisible

163
00:07:13,480 --> 00:07:16,640
Speaker 1: and off the radar screen since the NFL draft.

164
00:07:16,800 --> 00:07:19,800
Speaker 4: Well drafted by Tennessee.

165
00:07:19,920 --> 00:07:22,240
Speaker 1: But but still, though, I mean, this is this is

166
00:07:22,400 --> 00:07:24,440
Speaker 1: It's not you know, in the NBA, I get it

167
00:07:25,200 --> 00:07:27,240
Speaker 1: because you see that you need guys to start in

168
00:07:27,280 --> 00:07:30,560
Speaker 1: bigger markets. It happens that way. But the NFL, they

169
00:07:30,560 --> 00:07:33,840
Speaker 1: find you everywhere, They find you everywhere, and here's the

170
00:07:33,920 --> 00:07:36,560
Speaker 1: number one pick. And it's not like he's an offensive tackle,

171
00:07:36,600 --> 00:07:39,120
Speaker 1: it's a defensive end. This is a quarterback. It's about

172
00:07:39,120 --> 00:07:42,280
Speaker 1: a quarterback man and cam Ward who has been perfectly

173
00:07:42,400 --> 00:07:45,080
Speaker 1: acceptable so far. Right, he had an okay first game,

174
00:07:45,200 --> 00:07:48,240
Speaker 1: he had an okay first quarter tonight, you know, finished

175
00:07:48,240 --> 00:07:52,040
Speaker 1: two out of seven for forty two yards in limited play,

176
00:07:52,120 --> 00:07:55,480
Speaker 1: but still led the Titans down to a score in

177
00:07:55,480 --> 00:07:57,880
Speaker 1: the first quarter. Before he came out. Everything was you know,

178
00:07:58,160 --> 00:08:01,800
Speaker 1: he's been perfectly acceptable so far, and there has been

179
00:08:01,960 --> 00:08:06,920
Speaker 1: absolutely no buzz, no attention, no anything, nothing about the

180
00:08:07,000 --> 00:08:09,560
Speaker 1: number one overall pick in the draft. And that that,

181
00:08:09,880 --> 00:08:11,840
Speaker 1: you know, in a in a time when not a

182
00:08:11,840 --> 00:08:14,960
Speaker 1: lot in the NFL shocks me. This does because it

183
00:08:15,040 --> 00:08:20,000
Speaker 1: shouldn't be no buzz on cam Ward. It's wild that

184
00:08:20,200 --> 00:08:22,720
Speaker 1: this is the case. Do we talk way more about

185
00:08:22,720 --> 00:08:26,160
Speaker 1: Shador Sanders, who is fourth string not playing this weekend

186
00:08:26,200 --> 00:08:28,080
Speaker 1: and all the drama that goes along with it with

187
00:08:28,280 --> 00:08:30,240
Speaker 1: the If you had a pie chart, it would be

188
00:08:30,360 --> 00:08:34,600
Speaker 1: ninety nine point nine nine percent of Shador Sanders in

189
00:08:34,640 --> 00:08:37,120
Speaker 1: the in the country. And the only reason it's point

190
00:08:37,120 --> 00:08:40,240
Speaker 1: point one percent cam Ward is because we're talking about

191
00:08:40,280 --> 00:08:41,880
Speaker 1: it right now. This is the first time he's been

192
00:08:41,920 --> 00:08:44,640
Speaker 1: mentioned since he got drafted. This is done, and he's

193
00:08:44,679 --> 00:08:47,160
Speaker 1: a quarterback and he's exciting, and he throws for a

194
00:08:47,160 --> 00:08:49,960
Speaker 1: lot of yards, and still it's like, oh, yeah, yeah,

195
00:08:50,000 --> 00:08:50,679
Speaker 1: how's cam.

196
00:08:50,520 --> 00:08:51,120
Speaker 4: Ward gonna do?

197
00:08:51,400 --> 00:08:55,440
Speaker 1: He's let He's not even on page one of of

198
00:08:55,440 --> 00:08:58,000
Speaker 1: of you know, he's not even below the fold. He's

199
00:08:58,000 --> 00:09:00,760
Speaker 1: what beIN o'cook would say, it would be a page

200
00:09:00,800 --> 00:09:03,720
Speaker 1: f eight in the agate type on the bottom of

201
00:09:03,720 --> 00:09:07,800
Speaker 1: the page. That's how unimportant is That's how low. That's

202
00:09:07,840 --> 00:09:10,320
Speaker 1: how low cam Ward has been. And he's the number

203
00:09:10,320 --> 00:09:11,240
Speaker 1: one pick in the draft.

204
00:09:11,480 --> 00:09:13,880
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think a couple of things come into play, right.

205
00:09:13,880 --> 00:09:16,000
Speaker 4: We've been talking a lot about the veterans, you know,

206
00:09:16,120 --> 00:09:19,480
Speaker 4: the back stuff, with Matthew Stafford the last week or so,

207
00:09:19,880 --> 00:09:22,480
Speaker 4: Aaron Rodgers. For the longest time, was he going to play?

208
00:09:22,559 --> 00:09:25,319
Speaker 4: Where was he gonna go? Was the thing with Pittsburgh inevitable?

209
00:09:25,640 --> 00:09:28,240
Speaker 4: It ended up happening, and here we are, And then

210
00:09:28,240 --> 00:09:31,080
Speaker 4: you've got so many questions about the second year guys.

211
00:09:31,120 --> 00:09:33,480
Speaker 4: I mean, look at all the hot air being blown

212
00:09:33,520 --> 00:09:36,840
Speaker 4: about Caleb Williams. Just every every day, it's a new headline,

213
00:09:36,880 --> 00:09:40,160
Speaker 4: it's a new breakdown, it's a new Hey, maybe this

214
00:09:40,360 --> 00:09:45,319
Speaker 4: was an AI driven bot versus an actual source telling

215
00:09:45,360 --> 00:09:47,880
Speaker 4: you something about what's going on behind the scenes. Right,

216
00:09:47,880 --> 00:09:50,360
Speaker 4: You've got so much chaos and all of that, and

217
00:09:50,400 --> 00:09:53,480
Speaker 4: the Schador Sanders because of the surname and what we've

218
00:09:53,480 --> 00:09:56,480
Speaker 4: watched that takes up a bit of the pie chart.

219
00:09:56,760 --> 00:09:58,920
Speaker 4: Travis Hunter, how much is he going to play on

220
00:09:58,960 --> 00:10:01,000
Speaker 4: both sides of the ball. We gotta give it a

221
00:10:01,040 --> 00:10:03,800
Speaker 4: sliver off to him. So, yeah, cam Ward has been

222
00:10:03,840 --> 00:10:08,120
Speaker 4: able to operate in relative anonymity there in Tennessee. Not

223
00:10:08,240 --> 00:10:10,000
Speaker 4: often you get to do that as a number one pick.

224
00:10:10,040 --> 00:10:13,640
Speaker 4: But when last year's is drawing so much higher and

225
00:10:13,800 --> 00:10:17,320
Speaker 4: slinging ink in one of the big metroplexes, that's what

226
00:10:17,360 --> 00:10:17,800
Speaker 4: it does.

227
00:10:18,480 --> 00:10:21,160
Speaker 1: I mean, just think about what the the preseason has

228
00:10:21,160 --> 00:10:24,560
Speaker 1: been so far as we get into week two, think

229
00:10:24,600 --> 00:10:27,640
Speaker 1: about what it's been so far, which has been basically

230
00:10:28,000 --> 00:10:31,360
Speaker 1: Shador Sanders has been the story. And you want to say,

231
00:10:31,400 --> 00:10:34,200
Speaker 1: what's the second story. Well, if there's drama with Jerry

232
00:10:34,280 --> 00:10:36,960
Speaker 1: Jones about paying or not paying Micah Parsons or Jerry

233
00:10:37,040 --> 00:10:40,719
Speaker 1: Jones saying something or doing something, or just general Cowboys

234
00:10:41,960 --> 00:10:44,720
Speaker 1: the Shenanigans, Right, that there's number two stayed in general.

235
00:10:44,800 --> 00:10:45,360
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's it.

236
00:10:45,440 --> 00:10:47,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's it. Really that that's been it like like

237
00:10:47,920 --> 00:10:50,640
Speaker 1: it's it. I know that the draft didn't go well

238
00:10:50,679 --> 00:10:52,440
Speaker 1: with a lot of big playmakers at the top, and

239
00:10:52,440 --> 00:10:55,000
Speaker 1: obviously Travis Hunter, you know we're waiting it's basically just

240
00:10:55,040 --> 00:10:57,960
Speaker 1: seeing him play both sides of the ball. But this

241
00:10:58,120 --> 00:11:00,160
Speaker 1: that's why I thought, for sure, well we're gonna at

242
00:11:00,240 --> 00:11:02,560
Speaker 1: least default to cam Ward that the number one pick

243
00:11:02,559 --> 00:11:05,440
Speaker 1: in the draft's gonna get something. Nope, Nope, he's even

244
00:11:05,559 --> 00:11:08,800
Speaker 1: he's even being looked over in every kind of dynasty

245
00:11:08,920 --> 00:11:12,040
Speaker 1: draft I'm doing in fantasy where he's the only quarterback

246
00:11:12,080 --> 00:11:14,680
Speaker 1: you're gonna take, And I'm seeing dynasty rookie drafts where

247
00:11:14,880 --> 00:11:17,280
Speaker 1: he's making it out of the first round, like no

248
00:11:17,320 --> 00:11:19,720
Speaker 1: one's even not to but he's a starting quarterback and

249
00:11:19,760 --> 00:11:22,000
Speaker 1: when you do Dynasty, it's it happens that way, like,

250
00:11:22,040 --> 00:11:23,800
Speaker 1: oh my goodness, no, no, no, he's making it out of

251
00:11:23,800 --> 00:11:25,679
Speaker 1: the NAA don't like Cam Woard going out of the

252
00:11:25,679 --> 00:11:27,800
Speaker 1: first round, number one pick of the draft. This is

253
00:11:27,840 --> 00:11:30,840
Speaker 1: how much it is, and I really it really shocks me.

254
00:11:31,080 --> 00:11:36,040
Speaker 1: I hope he has some sort of incredible run beginning

255
00:11:36,040 --> 00:11:38,280
Speaker 1: of the season. He bursts on the scene like Cam

256
00:11:38,360 --> 00:11:40,800
Speaker 1: Newton and all of a sudden, it's, oh my goodness,

257
00:11:40,800 --> 00:11:43,160
Speaker 1: he throws for four hundred yards and look at what

258
00:11:43,200 --> 00:11:43,840
Speaker 1: Cam Newton did?

259
00:11:43,960 --> 00:11:44,080
Speaker 5: You know?

260
00:11:44,120 --> 00:11:45,800
Speaker 1: Remember his first couple of games with the Panthers were

261
00:11:45,840 --> 00:11:48,120
Speaker 1: like eight hundred yards passing and Steve Smith had like

262
00:11:48,160 --> 00:11:50,800
Speaker 1: six hundred yards receiving. Like, I hope he does that

263
00:11:50,880 --> 00:11:54,080
Speaker 1: because he should be getting a little bit more of

264
00:11:54,120 --> 00:11:56,839
Speaker 1: the uh, the spoils that go along with being the

265
00:11:56,920 --> 00:11:57,920
Speaker 1: number one pick in the draft.

266
00:11:58,480 --> 00:12:02,040
Speaker 4: Yeah. I mean, look, it's good to not have the

267
00:12:02,080 --> 00:12:06,240
Speaker 4: spotlight be quite so loud and bright for you. But

268
00:12:06,840 --> 00:12:09,079
Speaker 4: you know, I get what you're saying. Let's see, they

269
00:12:09,120 --> 00:12:12,240
Speaker 4: are currently at plus seven seventy five to win the

270
00:12:12,280 --> 00:12:15,880
Speaker 4: AFC South one that we've discussed at at nauseum, going

271
00:12:15,920 --> 00:12:18,840
Speaker 4: back to some of the Jacksonville stuff and our discussion

272
00:12:18,880 --> 00:12:22,920
Speaker 4: of the Colts, and look, the Texans are the favorite,

273
00:12:22,960 --> 00:12:25,320
Speaker 4: but they're just minus one oh five, so not exactly

274
00:12:25,320 --> 00:12:29,040
Speaker 4: a prohibited favorite by any stretch of the imagination. So

275
00:12:29,520 --> 00:12:32,240
Speaker 4: you know, when things break right, you have the opportunity

276
00:12:32,280 --> 00:12:34,040
Speaker 4: to go make some noise. You got a couple of

277
00:12:34,080 --> 00:12:39,080
Speaker 4: playmakers in there, some decent wideouts that have been added

278
00:12:39,160 --> 00:12:41,840
Speaker 4: over the course of this offseason. We'll see what Calvin

279
00:12:41,920 --> 00:12:44,880
Speaker 4: Ridley's got. But you bring in Tyler Lockett. Van Jefferson

280
00:12:45,240 --> 00:12:48,000
Speaker 4: has shown as a third at spots. Now he's got

281
00:12:48,000 --> 00:12:51,160
Speaker 4: to take on a bigger role Tony Pollard. You lost

282
00:12:51,200 --> 00:12:54,240
Speaker 4: Spears to injuries, so keeping an eye on the running

283
00:12:54,240 --> 00:12:57,400
Speaker 4: back position behind Pollard. But you got some playmakers. Hell,

284
00:12:57,440 --> 00:12:59,520
Speaker 4: you got a guy named Gunner running at tight end

285
00:13:00,240 --> 00:13:03,280
Speaker 4: con Quo. He had a big game tonight, So yeah,

286
00:13:03,480 --> 00:13:07,679
Speaker 4: curiosity no question in that division. So maybe he'll start

287
00:13:07,679 --> 00:13:10,960
Speaker 4: getting some noise in some pub But you know, I

288
00:13:11,000 --> 00:13:13,640
Speaker 4: think most guys would rather come into their first camp

289
00:13:13,679 --> 00:13:18,040
Speaker 4: and be left alone as opposed to the constant headlines

290
00:13:18,120 --> 00:13:22,360
Speaker 4: and talking heads right to go, owing back to Denzel

291
00:13:22,520 --> 00:13:25,959
Speaker 4: Washington or going back to Shador Sanders trying to find

292
00:13:26,000 --> 00:13:29,560
Speaker 4: his guy Tony Grossi afterwards like hey, why do you

293
00:13:29,600 --> 00:13:33,640
Speaker 4: hate me? So all of that to say for cam Ward,

294
00:13:34,600 --> 00:13:36,480
Speaker 4: wish him the best. We certainly watched a lot of

295
00:13:36,480 --> 00:13:38,760
Speaker 4: his games the last couple of years in the studio

296
00:13:38,840 --> 00:13:42,199
Speaker 4: and he made his share of big plays. So with that,

297
00:13:42,800 --> 00:13:46,960
Speaker 4: he'll get his He'll just just do But for the

298
00:13:47,120 --> 00:13:50,120
Speaker 4: off season, sometimes it's okay to just go go do

299
00:13:50,200 --> 00:13:51,320
Speaker 4: your work behind the scenes.

300
00:13:51,679 --> 00:13:54,280
Speaker 2: Be sure to catch live editions of The Jason Smith

301
00:13:54,320 --> 00:13:57,400
Speaker 2: Show with Mike harmon weekdays at ten pm Eastern, seven

302
00:13:57,440 --> 00:14:01,640
Speaker 2: pm Pacific on Fox Sports Radio and the iHeartRadio app.

303
00:14:02,280 --> 00:14:05,160
Speaker 1: It is already been some kind of Friday, and we

304
00:14:05,240 --> 00:14:08,160
Speaker 1: still have a lot left to go here in football.

305
00:14:08,960 --> 00:14:11,720
Speaker 1: We'll get to Shador Sanders in a second. But sometimes

306
00:14:11,760 --> 00:14:16,319
Speaker 1: the scariest moments in sports bring out the best in us,

307
00:14:16,320 --> 00:14:19,200
Speaker 1: and that's clearly a case that unfortunately we saw and

308
00:14:19,200 --> 00:14:23,360
Speaker 1: then saw the reaction in tonight's preseason game between the

309
00:14:23,400 --> 00:14:27,080
Speaker 1: Lions and the Falcons. This game was suspended and ended

310
00:14:27,440 --> 00:14:30,280
Speaker 1: early in the fourth quarter with the Lions winning seventeen

311
00:14:30,320 --> 00:14:34,280
Speaker 1: to ten after Maurice Norris the Lions is injured. Looked

312
00:14:34,400 --> 00:14:38,200
Speaker 1: very serious on a tackle he attempts to make. Norris

313
00:14:38,240 --> 00:14:39,960
Speaker 1: goes in to make the tackle. You see his head

314
00:14:40,080 --> 00:14:43,560
Speaker 1: kind of snap back. There's seizure activity in his legs

315
00:14:44,040 --> 00:14:46,680
Speaker 1: and right away personnel came out. They took him away

316
00:14:46,720 --> 00:14:49,360
Speaker 1: in an ambulance. Prayers up for him. Will have an

317
00:14:49,400 --> 00:14:51,680
Speaker 1: update on him as soon as we do in this game.

318
00:14:52,280 --> 00:14:54,960
Speaker 1: And it really was something I mean to see the

319
00:14:54,960 --> 00:14:58,080
Speaker 1: Lions and Falcons decide with each other. They held hands

320
00:14:58,120 --> 00:15:00,640
Speaker 1: around him as he was being tended to on the field,

321
00:15:00,680 --> 00:15:04,440
Speaker 1: and they decided we're not gonna play. And the next

322
00:15:04,440 --> 00:15:07,520
Speaker 1: play happened and the ball was snapped and the clock ticked,

323
00:15:07,520 --> 00:15:10,840
Speaker 1: and I don't know if there were still some unsuredness

324
00:15:10,840 --> 00:15:12,520
Speaker 1: as to what was going on on the field, it

325
00:15:12,560 --> 00:15:15,960
Speaker 1: was gonna happen, but both teams decided amongst themselves that's it.

326
00:15:16,080 --> 00:15:19,760
Speaker 1: This game is over. And that was the final snap

327
00:15:19,840 --> 00:15:22,280
Speaker 1: and they suspended the game with about fourteen minutes left

328
00:15:22,320 --> 00:15:25,600
Speaker 1: to go, the Lions and Falcons again deciding this right

329
00:15:25,680 --> 00:15:28,480
Speaker 1: after they watched Norris get taken off the field, And

330
00:15:28,480 --> 00:15:29,880
Speaker 1: again we'll have an update for you as soon as

331
00:15:29,880 --> 00:15:32,160
Speaker 1: we do. He was taken to the hospital, but the

332
00:15:32,240 --> 00:15:34,840
Speaker 1: two teams decided, okay, this game is done, and out

333
00:15:34,880 --> 00:15:36,560
Speaker 1: of respect for him. It was a very much a

334
00:15:36,920 --> 00:15:40,080
Speaker 1: Tomorrow Hamlin esque situation where we watched it and said, okay,

335
00:15:40,120 --> 00:15:43,640
Speaker 1: what's gonna happen? Now, Clearly fourteen minutes left in game

336
00:15:43,680 --> 00:15:45,680
Speaker 1: one of the preseason, there really is no need to

337
00:15:45,720 --> 00:15:47,760
Speaker 1: finish the game, and I am I am glad to

338
00:15:47,840 --> 00:15:51,800
Speaker 1: see humanity and concern for Norris kind of just take over.

339
00:15:52,240 --> 00:15:54,760
Speaker 1: And that's what we saw, and that's how the game ended.

340
00:15:54,800 --> 00:15:57,120
Speaker 1: You see the snap and players just kind of standing there,

341
00:15:57,160 --> 00:15:59,560
Speaker 1: going we're not gonna play. So this is kind of

342
00:15:59,560 --> 00:16:01,760
Speaker 1: the end of the game, and the game ended a

343
00:16:01,880 --> 00:16:05,080
Speaker 1: great moment of humanity and together it's an NFL brotherhood

344
00:16:05,120 --> 00:16:06,320
Speaker 1: between the Lions and the Falcons.

345
00:16:06,480 --> 00:16:06,680
Speaker 5: Yeah.

346
00:16:06,680 --> 00:16:10,320
Speaker 4: I mean you talk about the the fraternity, right and

347
00:16:10,360 --> 00:16:12,640
Speaker 4: all the guys that we know and we've worked with

348
00:16:12,800 --> 00:16:16,920
Speaker 4: through the years. You watch games with them, and when

349
00:16:16,960 --> 00:16:21,200
Speaker 4: there's a moment of this nature, it still resonates on

350
00:16:21,360 --> 00:16:24,200
Speaker 4: that grand scale. And certainly you know with the type

351
00:16:24,200 --> 00:16:28,240
Speaker 4: of adrenaline and the way players have to be right

352
00:16:28,760 --> 00:16:33,000
Speaker 4: in terms of their readiness for that next play, and

353
00:16:33,080 --> 00:16:36,920
Speaker 4: certainly regular season, we know there'd be a suspension of

354
00:16:37,000 --> 00:16:40,200
Speaker 4: play and eventually they get back into it because of

355
00:16:40,280 --> 00:16:44,000
Speaker 4: the stakes in this particular case, you recognize what this

356
00:16:44,400 --> 00:16:50,000
Speaker 4: moment means, and against a preseason the fans understood it, right,

357
00:16:50,080 --> 00:16:53,200
Speaker 4: A lot of a lot of people emotional shown and

358
00:16:53,520 --> 00:16:57,760
Speaker 4: certainly outside the prayer circles and everything that flowed through.

359
00:16:57,880 --> 00:17:02,160
Speaker 4: So all thoughts with with Norris's family, his teammates and everybody,

360
00:17:02,320 --> 00:17:08,119
Speaker 4: but yeah, showing the humanity of this moment, much bigger stakes,

361
00:17:08,520 --> 00:17:11,280
Speaker 4: you know, in the injury as it occurred, takes the

362
00:17:11,920 --> 00:17:17,320
Speaker 4: the knee and to your point, Jason, Uh, the immediacy

363
00:17:17,680 --> 00:17:22,280
Speaker 4: of trainers, uh, quick acting personnel, and the credit to

364
00:17:22,880 --> 00:17:26,720
Speaker 4: you know, how quickly everybody mobilized and recognized the severity

365
00:17:27,480 --> 00:17:30,840
Speaker 4: of the moment. And then look, the game doesn't matter

366
00:17:31,160 --> 00:17:34,000
Speaker 4: at that point, right, It's all about, you know, putting

367
00:17:34,119 --> 00:17:38,080
Speaker 4: all the effort towards Norris and his his health and

368
00:17:38,240 --> 00:17:39,680
Speaker 4: getting him the help he needs.

369
00:17:40,320 --> 00:17:40,439
Speaker 5: Uh.

370
00:17:40,640 --> 00:17:42,520
Speaker 4: And and still I mean you hear it in my

371
00:17:42,680 --> 00:17:45,280
Speaker 4: voice as I'm saying it, because I watched the replay

372
00:17:45,320 --> 00:17:49,480
Speaker 4: a couple of times, probably one too many, because we

373
00:17:49,680 --> 00:17:53,440
Speaker 4: recognize the fragility of things when we talk about contact

374
00:17:53,560 --> 00:17:56,960
Speaker 4: sports at every level, and in the NFL, you know

375
00:17:57,160 --> 00:17:59,639
Speaker 4: here it is spotlight today. We've got a lot of

376
00:17:59,680 --> 00:18:01,560
Speaker 4: poz it is to talk about and the love of

377
00:18:01,640 --> 00:18:04,680
Speaker 4: the football being back, but also you know that grim

378
00:18:04,760 --> 00:18:08,119
Speaker 4: reminder of what can happen just so quickly and I'll

379
00:18:08,160 --> 00:18:10,000
Speaker 4: play yeah, I mean, it's.

380
00:18:09,880 --> 00:18:12,679
Speaker 1: Something you'll see and he goes in for a tackle

381
00:18:12,760 --> 00:18:15,560
Speaker 1: and it's a helmet to the knee and you see

382
00:18:15,600 --> 00:18:19,200
Speaker 1: as his head kind of snap back and and you know, look,

383
00:18:19,359 --> 00:18:22,239
Speaker 1: it's something. It's part of the game, and it's an

384
00:18:22,280 --> 00:18:24,240
Speaker 1: awful part of the game, and it's such an unfortunate

385
00:18:24,320 --> 00:18:26,159
Speaker 1: part of the game. And unfortunately we've seen it now

386
00:18:26,200 --> 00:18:28,520
Speaker 1: a couple of times over the course of the past

387
00:18:28,600 --> 00:18:31,479
Speaker 1: few years, and everybody's got their fingers crossed again. As

388
00:18:31,480 --> 00:18:34,600
Speaker 1: soon as we hear any moments on this, we will

389
00:18:34,680 --> 00:18:37,199
Speaker 1: let you know. But sometimes we respond to our most

390
00:18:37,240 --> 00:18:39,720
Speaker 1: difficult moments by displaying the best of us, and that

391
00:18:39,840 --> 00:18:42,040
Speaker 1: clearly was the Lions and the Falcons tonight again, this

392
00:18:42,200 --> 00:18:45,800
Speaker 1: game suspended with about fourteen minutes to go, seventeen to

393
00:18:45,880 --> 00:18:48,320
Speaker 1: ten game, and they're really it didn't seem to me

394
00:18:48,440 --> 00:18:51,520
Speaker 1: like there was any like there was any question that

395
00:18:51,640 --> 00:18:53,480
Speaker 1: that was they were going to do. Mike, Like I said, Okay,

396
00:18:53,520 --> 00:18:54,760
Speaker 1: they're going to do this and just line up and

397
00:18:54,800 --> 00:18:57,360
Speaker 1: say we're doing this far. They could have easily said look,

398
00:18:57,359 --> 00:18:59,040
Speaker 1: we're not doing it and made it some kind of

399
00:18:59,680 --> 00:19:01,639
Speaker 1: you know, walking off the field and there's a lot

400
00:19:01,720 --> 00:19:04,600
Speaker 1: of craziness and bizarreness and what's happening, or the teams

401
00:19:04,600 --> 00:19:07,280
Speaker 1: refusing to play. But by getting up there and saying, okay,

402
00:19:07,440 --> 00:19:10,639
Speaker 1: this play is gonna run the last fourteen minutes. Okay,

403
00:19:11,040 --> 00:19:12,720
Speaker 1: you know you're not gonna blow the whistle, and this

404
00:19:12,840 --> 00:19:14,240
Speaker 1: is this is how we're gonna do it. And I

405
00:19:14,280 --> 00:19:18,000
Speaker 1: thought stepping up and showing not just deciding hey we're

406
00:19:18,040 --> 00:19:20,920
Speaker 1: walking away, we're done, but to stand up and say hey,

407
00:19:21,000 --> 00:19:23,800
Speaker 1: we're doing this moment for you. This was kind of

408
00:19:23,880 --> 00:19:25,880
Speaker 1: an extra way to do it, because they easily could

409
00:19:25,920 --> 00:19:28,600
Speaker 1: have just said, hey, we're not gonna play. Okay, that's fine,

410
00:19:28,640 --> 00:19:31,080
Speaker 1: the coaches talk and where and we're gonna you go

411
00:19:31,160 --> 00:19:32,879
Speaker 1: to your sideline. You go to your sideline, we'll do

412
00:19:32,920 --> 00:19:35,480
Speaker 1: a quick congratulations and that's how it's gonna end. But

413
00:19:35,520 --> 00:19:38,080
Speaker 1: to say hey, we're snapping the football and not playing

414
00:19:38,160 --> 00:19:40,040
Speaker 1: for you. It's there. It was their way of doing

415
00:19:40,400 --> 00:19:43,560
Speaker 1: even a bigger moment for him on the field, which

416
00:19:43,600 --> 00:19:46,720
Speaker 1: I thought was, I mean, what a Again, sometimes these

417
00:19:46,840 --> 00:19:49,080
Speaker 1: these moments bring out the best in this and that

418
00:19:49,200 --> 00:19:52,440
Speaker 1: clear was. It was an incredible decision, uh, from the

419
00:19:52,600 --> 00:19:54,560
Speaker 1: from the Lions and Falcons on this. I can't say

420
00:19:54,640 --> 00:19:55,080
Speaker 1: enough about it.

421
00:19:55,320 --> 00:20:00,280
Speaker 4: Yeah, the recognition of what what's at play here, right,

422
00:20:00,359 --> 00:20:06,320
Speaker 4: the game gets minimized and we see this far too often,

423
00:20:07,400 --> 00:20:12,480
Speaker 4: happily not too much in the gale of how many

424
00:20:12,560 --> 00:20:16,000
Speaker 4: games are played, but it's, you know, still the severity

425
00:20:16,040 --> 00:20:19,680
Speaker 4: of it. You know, that recognition and that moment and

426
00:20:19,840 --> 00:20:23,119
Speaker 4: to your point, just going running out the clock. All right,

427
00:20:23,280 --> 00:20:26,720
Speaker 4: game's gone to Zeros. Let's go and let's put our

428
00:20:26,840 --> 00:20:27,800
Speaker 4: thoughts where they need to be.

429
00:20:28,680 --> 00:20:32,160
Speaker 1: So again, we'll continue to update this story throughout the night. Again,

430
00:20:32,560 --> 00:20:36,320
Speaker 1: best thoughts to Norris's family lines as well. But look,

431
00:20:36,359 --> 00:20:40,320
Speaker 1: our business is sports and we go to the biggest

432
00:20:40,359 --> 00:20:43,680
Speaker 1: story coming into tonight on the field when we talk

433
00:20:43,720 --> 00:20:47,560
Speaker 1: about a big level of interest. We saw the debut

434
00:20:47,840 --> 00:20:52,080
Speaker 1: of Shador Sanders tonight for the Cleveland Browns, and look,

435
00:20:52,160 --> 00:20:54,800
Speaker 1: I'll be honest, game had ended thirty to ten. There's

436
00:20:54,840 --> 00:20:56,760
Speaker 1: two things for this game, right right, There's two things.

437
00:20:56,800 --> 00:20:59,840
Speaker 1: There's there's the first one is what we think of

438
00:21:00,000 --> 00:21:02,760
Speaker 1: about Schador Sanders, and then the second part is reality.

439
00:21:03,320 --> 00:21:06,280
Speaker 1: And you know, I kept thinking of this tonight. I knew, Okay,

440
00:21:06,359 --> 00:21:08,800
Speaker 1: Sanders is gonna come out and he's gonna and he's

441
00:21:08,840 --> 00:21:10,840
Speaker 1: gonna play. He's gonna go ball to the wall, right

442
00:21:10,960 --> 00:21:13,080
Speaker 1: like he know this is his chance to win the job.

443
00:21:13,200 --> 00:21:15,960
Speaker 1: He wants to show everybody I'm the guy that you

444
00:21:16,040 --> 00:21:18,120
Speaker 1: thought I was in college. I'm not a fifth round pick.

445
00:21:18,200 --> 00:21:20,440
Speaker 1: I need to seize this job. I'm getting a chance here.

446
00:21:20,640 --> 00:21:23,000
Speaker 1: And I kept thinking of that, that Herb Brooks moment

447
00:21:23,040 --> 00:21:24,840
Speaker 1: from Miracle when he starts his speech to the guys

448
00:21:24,880 --> 00:21:27,080
Speaker 1: and he says, and uh, Kurt, I just hear it

449
00:21:27,080 --> 00:21:29,720
Speaker 1: in Kurt Russell's voice now when he says, great moments

450
00:21:30,040 --> 00:21:34,399
Speaker 1: are born from great opportunity, and that's you have here tonight, gentlemen,

451
00:21:34,640 --> 00:21:37,399
Speaker 1: that's what you've earned tonight, right, And I thought, and

452
00:21:37,480 --> 00:21:40,199
Speaker 1: I thought, that's exactly the deal for Shador Sanders. All

453
00:21:40,240 --> 00:21:42,800
Speaker 1: this craziness, all the Browns is setting him up to fail.

454
00:21:42,880 --> 00:21:44,800
Speaker 1: No Browns will put him out there to play like

455
00:21:44,880 --> 00:21:47,520
Speaker 1: there he's the only guy healthy enough to play. He's

456
00:21:47,600 --> 00:21:49,400
Speaker 1: been there for a minute and a half. I mean,

457
00:21:49,440 --> 00:21:51,840
Speaker 1: what the hell that more analysis is there than that

458
00:21:52,000 --> 00:21:54,480
Speaker 1: he's one of your four guys, right, Okay, So this

459
00:21:54,640 --> 00:21:57,040
Speaker 1: is how it's gonna go. And he goes out and

460
00:21:57,119 --> 00:21:59,639
Speaker 1: in the beginning he did some good things, and he

461
00:21:59,720 --> 00:22:02,800
Speaker 1: did some rookie things. Okay, you had a great scramble

462
00:22:02,840 --> 00:22:05,560
Speaker 1: for a first down, you know, a couple of bad decisions,

463
00:22:05,640 --> 00:22:08,200
Speaker 1: you know, trying to run around like he would have

464
00:22:08,240 --> 00:22:10,399
Speaker 1: done in college when clearly, okay, that doesn't happen in

465
00:22:10,440 --> 00:22:12,280
Speaker 1: the NFL. Is that the right of passage?

466
00:22:12,320 --> 00:22:14,640
Speaker 4: Do you have to check that one on your Bingo card?

467
00:22:14,720 --> 00:22:14,880
Speaker 5: Now?

468
00:22:15,080 --> 00:22:19,440
Speaker 4: If you're a quarterback with any ability to move laterally,

469
00:22:19,880 --> 00:22:22,119
Speaker 4: that you have to do that play like it's a

470
00:22:22,200 --> 00:22:24,320
Speaker 4: video game. So Chris Berman would be able to go

471
00:22:24,600 --> 00:22:27,840
Speaker 4: whoop whoop nine times before the play ends.

472
00:22:28,240 --> 00:22:30,280
Speaker 1: He said, hey, Russell Wilson, watch this. I've seen you

473
00:22:30,400 --> 00:22:32,680
Speaker 1: do this for a long time. You're ready. So he

474
00:22:32,760 --> 00:22:35,080
Speaker 1: did some things, He did some good things, and he

475
00:22:35,200 --> 00:22:37,800
Speaker 1: did some rookie things. And then the second quarter he

476
00:22:37,920 --> 00:22:42,000
Speaker 1: played extremely well. Right, two touchdowns, including this one. The

477
00:22:42,280 --> 00:22:47,840
Speaker 1: very first touchdown of Shador Sanders' NFL career. Take a listen, seven.

478
00:22:47,640 --> 00:22:50,560
Speaker 2: Year veteran Treyyon Williams in the backfield, play fake to

479
00:22:50,680 --> 00:23:00,240
Speaker 2: him Sanders looking throwing down Payden Davis, Shadoor Sanders. Here's

480
00:23:00,359 --> 00:23:02,199
Speaker 2: welcome to the n NFL.

481
00:23:03,680 --> 00:23:09,400
Speaker 1: Browns Rose Chris Rose on Brown's TV with the call. There, Yes,

482
00:23:09,520 --> 00:23:12,440
Speaker 1: that Chris Rose with the call the first of two

483
00:23:12,560 --> 00:23:16,040
Speaker 1: touchdowns by Shador Sanders for the night, fourteen out of

484
00:23:16,119 --> 00:23:18,880
Speaker 1: twenty three, one hundred and thirty eight yards and two touchdowns.

485
00:23:18,960 --> 00:23:21,600
Speaker 1: Right now, here's here's the thing, because people got I mean,

486
00:23:21,840 --> 00:23:25,440
Speaker 1: there's nothing crazier than what people even after Shadoor Sanders

487
00:23:25,440 --> 00:23:27,080
Speaker 1: when he handed the ball off the first time. Oh,

488
00:23:27,200 --> 00:23:29,159
Speaker 1: that was a great handoff by Schendor's head. What a

489
00:23:29,200 --> 00:23:33,120
Speaker 1: great handoff by Schador Sanders. He absolutely played well enough

490
00:23:33,480 --> 00:23:35,800
Speaker 1: to keep the gig. Like what do we say the

491
00:23:35,840 --> 00:23:38,520
Speaker 1: other night? If he plays well enough, let him run

492
00:23:38,560 --> 00:23:41,040
Speaker 1: with it. Right, you don't need to say he's the

493
00:23:41,119 --> 00:23:43,560
Speaker 1: starter and there's a again, there's a bigger conversation, but

494
00:23:43,680 --> 00:23:46,359
Speaker 1: for right now, the results, what we saw in this game,

495
00:23:46,920 --> 00:23:49,399
Speaker 1: there is no reason to say, hey, okay, Joe Flacco

496
00:23:49,440 --> 00:23:51,320
Speaker 1: you go back to get all the reps. No, let

497
00:23:51,400 --> 00:23:53,760
Speaker 1: Shador run with a little bit. You know, I always

498
00:23:53,760 --> 00:23:55,320
Speaker 1: say the same thing, and you saw it. They said

499
00:23:55,320 --> 00:23:56,680
Speaker 1: it on the broadcast A lot to night. What do

500
00:23:56,800 --> 00:23:58,800
Speaker 1: I say? I look for a quarterbacks the first and

501
00:23:58,880 --> 00:24:01,159
Speaker 1: the most important thing that the game is not too

502
00:24:01,200 --> 00:24:03,200
Speaker 1: big for them, and that it's not too much. It's

503
00:24:03,240 --> 00:24:05,879
Speaker 1: not too okay. The game is going really fast right now,

504
00:24:05,920 --> 00:24:08,320
Speaker 1: the old Bill Parcells line, I want to see if

505
00:24:08,400 --> 00:24:10,840
Speaker 1: rookie's eyes get real milky in the lights, and they

506
00:24:11,600 --> 00:24:15,840
Speaker 1: it's a it's a twister, Andy yem Aniem And it wasn't.

507
00:24:16,040 --> 00:24:18,359
Speaker 1: And he made some big throws and he got more

508
00:24:18,440 --> 00:24:21,399
Speaker 1: comfortable as the game went on. There is no reason

509
00:24:21,720 --> 00:24:23,680
Speaker 1: to not allow him to continue to run with the

510
00:24:23,760 --> 00:24:26,200
Speaker 1: ones and get the lion's share of the reps and

511
00:24:26,359 --> 00:24:29,879
Speaker 1: continue on here and act as the de facto number

512
00:24:29,920 --> 00:24:31,919
Speaker 1: one quarterback. Look, Joe Flacco has been around a lot.

513
00:24:31,960 --> 00:24:33,600
Speaker 1: They interviewed him during the game. He talked about his

514
00:24:33,880 --> 00:24:36,960
Speaker 1: comfort level with the offense and how well Schador Sanders

515
00:24:37,080 --> 00:24:39,680
Speaker 1: is playing. And that's awesome. You don't need to see

516
00:24:40,080 --> 00:24:42,439
Speaker 1: Joe Flacco, right you You tell Joe Flacco. Look, Joe

517
00:24:42,440 --> 00:24:44,480
Speaker 1: here's a deal. You know, we have these rookie quarterbacks, Cinger,

518
00:24:44,520 --> 00:24:47,160
Speaker 1: you know where you're at, and he understands, we're gonna

519
00:24:47,200 --> 00:24:48,720
Speaker 1: let your door go here a little bit and run

520
00:24:48,760 --> 00:24:50,199
Speaker 1: with this job. And then we see where we're at.

521
00:24:50,240 --> 00:24:52,480
Speaker 1: We have we have a long preseason, got another couple

522
00:24:52,520 --> 00:24:54,600
Speaker 1: of weeks to go, We got a month before the

523
00:24:54,640 --> 00:24:56,800
Speaker 1: beginning of the season starts. We're gonna give him a

524
00:24:56,840 --> 00:24:59,159
Speaker 1: little bit more of an opportunity, and Joe Flacco's got

525
00:24:59,240 --> 00:25:01,679
Speaker 1: to understand that if he doesn't, it doesn't matter. I mean,

526
00:25:01,800 --> 00:25:05,880
Speaker 1: you see, Shador Sanders absolutely was the guy we thought

527
00:25:05,960 --> 00:25:08,200
Speaker 1: he would be when we thought he was the second

528
00:25:08,240 --> 00:25:11,200
Speaker 1: overall picking the draft, going behind cam Ward. There is

529
00:25:11,320 --> 00:25:13,640
Speaker 1: no reason to not say, shaudor you were great. You're

530
00:25:13,640 --> 00:25:15,199
Speaker 1: gonna continue to run with the ones. You are now

531
00:25:15,320 --> 00:25:18,560
Speaker 1: running as the number one quarterback with the Cleveland Browns

532
00:25:18,800 --> 00:25:21,720
Speaker 1: for this summer. And I don't think there's any way

533
00:25:21,760 --> 00:25:23,440
Speaker 1: you can come out of this and not do that

534
00:25:23,600 --> 00:25:24,880
Speaker 1: for him. I don't see how you don't.

535
00:25:26,240 --> 00:25:28,680
Speaker 4: Well, in the end, the other guys aren't healthy enough

536
00:25:28,760 --> 00:25:31,200
Speaker 4: to run anyway, So by default, I think he's gonna

537
00:25:31,240 --> 00:25:35,440
Speaker 4: get some more run here. You know, look, you play

538
00:25:35,520 --> 00:25:39,720
Speaker 4: against who's on the field with you, whether they're the

539
00:25:39,960 --> 00:25:43,320
Speaker 4: ones for the Panthers or twos or threes or whatever

540
00:25:43,359 --> 00:25:47,120
Speaker 4: it is. Panthers aren't great anyway, So grain of salt

541
00:25:47,240 --> 00:25:50,000
Speaker 4: with somebody. I'm not trying to pour water on the

542
00:25:50,119 --> 00:25:53,440
Speaker 4: notion of what he accomplished. Those throws were great. I

543
00:25:53,560 --> 00:25:55,640
Speaker 4: want to give a lot of nod on that first

544
00:25:55,720 --> 00:25:59,320
Speaker 4: touchdown pass to the concentration of the receiver as the

545
00:25:59,480 --> 00:26:02,480
Speaker 4: ball with between a couple of defenders to not have

546
00:26:02,640 --> 00:26:05,080
Speaker 4: that either bounce off his face mask or sail through

547
00:26:05,119 --> 00:26:08,600
Speaker 4: his hands. Good job by him. The second great throw

548
00:26:08,680 --> 00:26:11,639
Speaker 4: that he made down the sideline on the fingertips, Hey,

549
00:26:11,680 --> 00:26:13,080
Speaker 4: you got to give a guy a chance to make

550
00:26:13,119 --> 00:26:15,320
Speaker 4: a play where the defenders aren't and he did that.

551
00:26:16,600 --> 00:26:19,680
Speaker 4: What it means long term, like the hyperbole is going

552
00:26:19,720 --> 00:26:23,560
Speaker 4: to be there, I'm certainly not pouring a giant bucket

553
00:26:23,600 --> 00:26:27,240
Speaker 4: of water on it because it's a great first step. Right,

554
00:26:27,800 --> 00:26:31,359
Speaker 4: you have the growth moments of the scramble plays and

555
00:26:31,440 --> 00:26:34,920
Speaker 4: the chaos there, and then you settle in and take

556
00:26:34,960 --> 00:26:38,040
Speaker 4: advantage of what's afforded to you by the defense. How

557
00:26:38,119 --> 00:26:40,480
Speaker 4: that gets read by the professionals in the room and

558
00:26:40,640 --> 00:26:44,320
Speaker 4: when they go back to evaluate it in the post.

559
00:26:44,880 --> 00:26:47,879
Speaker 4: That's on them, you know. For us being loud mounts

560
00:26:47,920 --> 00:26:50,160
Speaker 4: on the radio, I'm like, hey, I want to see more,

561
00:26:50,640 --> 00:26:51,920
Speaker 4: all right, add more to it.

562
00:26:52,080 --> 00:26:52,199
Speaker 5: Right.

563
00:26:52,240 --> 00:26:55,040
Speaker 4: It's like, you know, we discussed and had a little

564
00:26:55,080 --> 00:26:59,159
Speaker 4: disagreement with the Anthony Richardson stuff yesterday. In the end,

565
00:26:59,200 --> 00:27:00,760
Speaker 4: you got to pile it up and see how much

566
00:27:00,800 --> 00:27:04,280
Speaker 4: he can take, you know, in terms of acumen and

567
00:27:04,440 --> 00:27:07,520
Speaker 4: what he still needs to learn and develop, and try

568
00:27:07,560 --> 00:27:10,439
Speaker 4: to put him in an opportunity to see that growth.

569
00:27:10,640 --> 00:27:13,080
Speaker 4: And for now, Joe Flacco, we know what he is.

570
00:27:13,600 --> 00:27:15,680
Speaker 4: He's gonna come in, he's gonna wing the ball around,

571
00:27:15,760 --> 00:27:17,879
Speaker 4: and there's gonna be some great moments. There's gonna be

572
00:27:18,000 --> 00:27:20,560
Speaker 4: some terrible moments. Oh wait, isn't that what you expect

573
00:27:20,600 --> 00:27:22,000
Speaker 4: from a rookie quarterback that you.

574
00:27:22,119 --> 00:27:23,480
Speaker 1: Drafted in the fifth round.

575
00:27:24,200 --> 00:27:29,200
Speaker 4: In the end, you're aspirations other than Miles Garrett Stowe

576
00:27:29,200 --> 00:27:31,600
Speaker 4: in the company line because he's you know, got a

577
00:27:31,760 --> 00:27:35,560
Speaker 4: massive ass check stick it out of his back pocket. Yeah,

578
00:27:35,680 --> 00:27:38,520
Speaker 4: super Bowl baby, It's like everybody else recognize it. It's

579
00:27:38,560 --> 00:27:41,640
Speaker 4: a train wreck. So if you can go and get

580
00:27:41,680 --> 00:27:45,440
Speaker 4: him some meaningful reps and get a true evaluation. I

581
00:27:45,480 --> 00:27:47,359
Speaker 4: don't see why you wouldn't once you get to the

582
00:27:47,440 --> 00:27:50,119
Speaker 4: regular season. I guess in September you still have to

583
00:27:50,200 --> 00:27:53,159
Speaker 4: sell hope, which is why you see Flacco or Picket

584
00:27:53,880 --> 00:27:56,359
Speaker 4: at that point. But even still, we got a lot

585
00:27:56,400 --> 00:27:59,440
Speaker 4: of football that needs to be played here, Jason. I'm

586
00:27:59,480 --> 00:28:02,800
Speaker 4: sure several teams are going to have a quarterback that

587
00:28:03,280 --> 00:28:08,040
Speaker 4: comes up a little less than one hundred, so all

588
00:28:08,040 --> 00:28:09,359
Speaker 4: of a sudden, one of those guys could be a

589
00:28:09,440 --> 00:28:10,400
Speaker 4: viable trade option.

590
00:28:10,920 --> 00:28:13,520
Speaker 2: Be sure to catch live editions of The Jason Smith

591
00:28:13,560 --> 00:28:16,640
Speaker 2: Show with Mike Harmon weekdays at ten pm Eastern, seven

592
00:28:16,720 --> 00:28:17,560
Speaker 2: pm Pacific.

593
00:28:18,240 --> 00:28:22,880
Speaker 1: Longtime NFL insider, Oh your new intro music. Jason Call

594
00:28:22,960 --> 00:28:24,879
Speaker 1: is the pet Shot Boys in Dusty Springfield. He is

595
00:28:24,920 --> 00:28:27,400
Speaker 1: on the thirty third team. He's on Twitter at Jason

596
00:28:27,440 --> 00:28:30,280
Speaker 1: Call sixty two. He is a Hall of Fame voter.

597
00:28:31,000 --> 00:28:31,960
Speaker 1: Jake Call, what's happening?

598
00:28:32,040 --> 00:28:32,159
Speaker 5: Man?

599
00:28:32,240 --> 00:28:32,600
Speaker 1: How are you?

600
00:28:33,280 --> 00:28:34,879
Speaker 5: How am I going to get through? It really is

601
00:28:35,520 --> 00:28:38,880
Speaker 5: like a New York but sports teams by, isn't it?

602
00:28:39,600 --> 00:28:39,880
Speaker 5: It is?

603
00:28:40,720 --> 00:28:47,320
Speaker 1: But for one week the Jets were great in all

604
00:28:47,480 --> 00:28:51,200
Speaker 1: facets of the game. They were great justin fields was great.

605
00:28:51,240 --> 00:28:53,720
Speaker 1: The running game was great, the defense was great. This

606
00:28:53,840 --> 00:28:54,960
Speaker 1: may be as good as it gets.

607
00:28:56,600 --> 00:29:04,280
Speaker 5: Maybe about it real, Yes, this is as good as

608
00:29:04,320 --> 00:29:07,320
Speaker 5: it gets. When when the other team doesn't game plan

609
00:29:08,360 --> 00:29:11,400
Speaker 5: or design a defense for Justin Grims. Yeah, he can

610
00:29:11,480 --> 00:29:15,800
Speaker 5: look pretty good. That's definitely true. Hey, he could even

611
00:29:15,880 --> 00:29:19,800
Speaker 5: be very good, maybe even Hall of Famish, if you

612
00:29:19,880 --> 00:29:24,040
Speaker 5: don't have a if you don't game plan against him. However,

613
00:29:24,520 --> 00:29:30,120
Speaker 5: once you actually game plans, things changed. That's how football works.

614
00:29:30,400 --> 00:29:31,880
Speaker 5: That's strange that happens.

615
00:29:32,400 --> 00:29:34,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's why I said this is as good as

616
00:29:34,040 --> 00:29:35,480
Speaker 1: it's going to get. I'm okay with it.

617
00:29:36,040 --> 00:29:39,320
Speaker 5: Well, this is this is like my friends who it

618
00:29:39,480 --> 00:29:45,080
Speaker 5: was friends who were Giants fans, and he was sending

619
00:29:45,160 --> 00:29:49,640
Speaker 5: out texts Jackson Dart looking so great, looks stop just

620
00:29:50,160 --> 00:29:54,200
Speaker 5: to stop, and I immediately dug out the headline of

621
00:29:54,520 --> 00:30:01,040
Speaker 5: Daniel Jones's first, uh first exhibition games, and it's like,

622
00:30:01,640 --> 00:30:05,520
Speaker 5: Daniel Jones looks sharp for Giants and debut. Yeah, that's

623
00:30:05,560 --> 00:30:10,120
Speaker 5: how good things go. The rookie quarterback always looks sharp

624
00:30:10,280 --> 00:30:13,520
Speaker 5: when he's playing against teams that don't actually play defense.

625
00:30:14,680 --> 00:30:17,000
Speaker 4: So much. For that shoot or Sanders question, I was

626
00:30:17,040 --> 00:30:17,280
Speaker 4: going to.

627
00:30:17,320 --> 00:30:24,400
Speaker 5: Ask, that's how that's how this always works. It's really

628
00:30:24,840 --> 00:30:25,560
Speaker 5: that's how it works.

629
00:30:25,720 --> 00:30:27,040
Speaker 1: No, but I'm telling you now, I'm going to make

630
00:30:27,080 --> 00:30:29,360
Speaker 1: you even happier than you were last week. I have

631
00:30:29,560 --> 00:30:33,040
Speaker 1: to re think my bold prediction that they're going to

632
00:30:33,080 --> 00:30:35,640
Speaker 1: start all four quarterbacks this year. They're now going to

633
00:30:35,720 --> 00:30:40,360
Speaker 1: start five quarterbacks this year. Because we talked about that five. Well,

634
00:30:40,480 --> 00:30:42,920
Speaker 1: now they're getting five. We said four, but now we

635
00:30:43,000 --> 00:30:44,480
Speaker 1: got five. We got five.

636
00:30:45,800 --> 00:30:49,920
Speaker 5: Last week. They had last week, and I said, you're

637
00:30:50,000 --> 00:30:50,520
Speaker 5: up to five.

638
00:30:50,760 --> 00:30:53,280
Speaker 1: Now it's clearly going to be five. Sanders is hurt,

639
00:30:53,440 --> 00:30:55,440
Speaker 1: Picking is hurt. Yeah, now it's going to be five.

640
00:30:55,920 --> 00:31:00,360
Speaker 5: I have very little doubt of that because it's the Brands,

641
00:31:00,960 --> 00:31:05,240
Speaker 5: and it doesn't really matter how many games they play,

642
00:31:05,640 --> 00:31:10,280
Speaker 5: Like they could only play five games and they would

643
00:31:10,320 --> 00:31:14,480
Speaker 5: play five from quarterbacks because there the Brown.

644
00:31:16,160 --> 00:31:18,400
Speaker 1: And then it would be Derek Anderson twice. No, I

645
00:31:18,680 --> 00:31:20,040
Speaker 1: see exactly how it's going to work for you.

646
00:31:20,800 --> 00:31:21,800
Speaker 5: Derek Anderson.

647
00:31:22,520 --> 00:31:25,040
Speaker 4: That two thousand and seven season with him and Braylan

648
00:31:25,160 --> 00:31:27,320
Speaker 4: Edwards was magical for fantasy.

649
00:31:27,560 --> 00:31:31,760
Speaker 5: Well it really actually it really was. And you forget

650
00:31:31,840 --> 00:31:36,680
Speaker 5: that Jojo Vicious was really really good that year too,

651
00:31:36,960 --> 00:31:39,720
Speaker 5: Like he was maybe the best third down receiver in

652
00:31:39,760 --> 00:31:42,840
Speaker 5: the league that year. I think he tried like forty

653
00:31:42,920 --> 00:31:46,720
Speaker 5: passes on third down that year. He's really really good.

654
00:31:47,400 --> 00:31:49,680
Speaker 5: Like the whole offense just clicked for a little while,

655
00:31:49,920 --> 00:31:52,800
Speaker 5: like all of a sudden, we were like, oh, Romeo

656
00:31:52,920 --> 00:31:55,280
Speaker 5: Pronell can really be a great head coach.

657
00:31:55,400 --> 00:32:02,360
Speaker 1: And I was like, no, not really, no, no, now, no, no,

658
00:32:02,640 --> 00:32:04,480
Speaker 1: you'll see time will bear me out on it. It'll

659
00:32:04,520 --> 00:32:08,080
Speaker 1: be fine. He'll be with Jason Cole with us here

660
00:32:08,080 --> 00:32:10,320
Speaker 1: at Fox Sports Radio, Jason Smith, Mike Carmon, All right, now,

661
00:32:10,360 --> 00:32:12,480
Speaker 1: I want this is what this is. Believe it or not.

662
00:32:12,640 --> 00:32:15,000
Speaker 1: There is a question I've wanted to ask you since

663
00:32:15,120 --> 00:32:19,200
Speaker 1: Week one of the preseason. Okay, all right, we watched

664
00:32:19,240 --> 00:32:22,600
Speaker 1: we watched Cam Little kick a seventy yard field goal

665
00:32:23,000 --> 00:32:26,120
Speaker 1: in the preseason right for Jacksonville, which is like, whoa,

666
00:32:26,440 --> 00:32:30,280
Speaker 1: this is not just sixty five, sixty six, this is seventy.

667
00:32:30,560 --> 00:32:32,160
Speaker 1: And I want to say, if I said to you,

668
00:32:33,560 --> 00:32:36,480
Speaker 1: if you what, what do you think is the absolute

669
00:32:36,960 --> 00:32:40,040
Speaker 1: longest any kicker, whoever you think is the best kicker

670
00:32:40,080 --> 00:32:42,959
Speaker 1: in the NFL. What's the longest field goal you can

671
00:32:43,040 --> 00:32:45,440
Speaker 1: see somebody making. Now that we've seen somebody in the

672
00:32:45,480 --> 00:32:47,080
Speaker 1: preseason it won from seventy.

673
00:32:48,600 --> 00:32:51,840
Speaker 5: Well in a live situation, live situation, live, Well that was.

674
00:32:51,840 --> 00:32:53,560
Speaker 1: A live situation. It was the preseason, but it was

675
00:32:53,560 --> 00:32:54,240
Speaker 1: a life Yeah.

676
00:32:54,720 --> 00:32:56,200
Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean I just didn't know if you're like

677
00:32:56,400 --> 00:33:00,240
Speaker 5: saying I was, if we just like have a like

678
00:33:00,440 --> 00:33:02,000
Speaker 5: field goal contest.

679
00:33:03,520 --> 00:33:05,480
Speaker 1: Want to hear about that that's what the problem can do?

680
00:33:05,560 --> 00:33:06,240
Speaker 1: That they can do that?

681
00:33:07,960 --> 00:33:10,040
Speaker 5: Well, I mean obviously got made it, so somebody's going

682
00:33:10,080 --> 00:33:12,000
Speaker 5: to be willing to try it, you know, depending on

683
00:33:12,120 --> 00:33:15,320
Speaker 5: the kicker. But there are some factors that go with it,

684
00:33:15,480 --> 00:33:17,520
Speaker 5: and that is, are you playing indoors? Are you playing

685
00:33:17,560 --> 00:33:21,320
Speaker 5: in a warm weather stadium? And you don't attempt these

686
00:33:21,400 --> 00:33:25,640
Speaker 5: kinds of kicks unless a you're in a desperation situation

687
00:33:27,400 --> 00:33:29,360
Speaker 5: where you're try and tie the game on the last

688
00:33:29,440 --> 00:33:31,080
Speaker 5: play and you think and you think you have a

689
00:33:31,160 --> 00:33:35,760
Speaker 5: kicker can do it, or it's the last play of

690
00:33:36,200 --> 00:33:39,960
Speaker 5: a first half and you're going to give it a shot.

691
00:33:40,280 --> 00:33:42,520
Speaker 5: But even then it's dangerous. Because I was at the

692
00:33:42,640 --> 00:33:48,800
Speaker 5: game between the Giants and the Bears where Tom Kauflin

693
00:33:48,880 --> 00:33:51,240
Speaker 5: and one of the rare mistakes that Tom Coughlin made

694
00:33:51,240 --> 00:33:56,280
Speaker 5: from a strategic standpoint, try a really long feeling a lawyer.

695
00:33:56,320 --> 00:33:59,280
Speaker 5: Remember it was like sixty something yards and that's the

696
00:33:59,320 --> 00:34:01,760
Speaker 5: one that Devin has to return for one hundred and

697
00:34:01,800 --> 00:34:07,960
Speaker 5: eight yards famously, and you know, I think Ernie, Ernie,

698
00:34:08,000 --> 00:34:10,279
Speaker 5: of course he lost his mind because it's like, why

699
00:34:10,320 --> 00:34:12,359
Speaker 5: would you do that here in the wind and all

700
00:34:12,400 --> 00:34:17,640
Speaker 5: those other things. So, I mean it really conditions happy perfect.

701
00:34:17,680 --> 00:34:21,640
Speaker 5: So you end up with only like maybe the course

702
00:34:21,680 --> 00:34:25,399
Speaker 5: of the season, a dozen situations where this can happen.

703
00:34:26,719 --> 00:34:30,640
Speaker 5: And again, what's your weather, like, are you playing indoors?

704
00:34:30,680 --> 00:34:32,520
Speaker 5: I mean you can't, you really can't do it once

705
00:34:32,600 --> 00:34:36,960
Speaker 5: the weather starts to turn in late October November, because

706
00:34:36,960 --> 00:34:39,440
Speaker 5: it's the ball is just not going to travel. So

707
00:34:41,000 --> 00:34:46,160
Speaker 5: you know, I think you got probably yeah, you have

708
00:34:46,280 --> 00:34:49,600
Speaker 5: maybe five or six realistic opportunities for it in a

709
00:34:49,640 --> 00:34:53,120
Speaker 5: given season where somebody might try it. And even then

710
00:34:54,320 --> 00:34:59,600
Speaker 5: you better have a really good, really good unit for

711
00:34:59,680 --> 00:35:02,640
Speaker 5: cub because if that ball is short, it's going to

712
00:35:02,760 --> 00:35:05,000
Speaker 5: come back out because that guy's going to get ahead

713
00:35:05,000 --> 00:35:06,800
Speaker 5: of team and he's going to be out to about

714
00:35:07,719 --> 00:35:10,520
Speaker 5: the twenty five or thirty yards in a hurry. And

715
00:35:10,640 --> 00:35:12,200
Speaker 5: on top of your coverage, stam.

716
00:35:13,920 --> 00:35:17,239
Speaker 4: So since you referenced Chicago. Let's let's go there. What

717
00:35:17,320 --> 00:35:20,080
Speaker 4: do you make of all the noise surrounding Caleb Williams

718
00:35:20,160 --> 00:35:24,160
Speaker 4: Ben Johnson? We're watching net videos and everything else and

719
00:35:24,280 --> 00:35:26,160
Speaker 4: getting that extrapolated out.

720
00:35:26,080 --> 00:35:29,759
Speaker 5: Upon you know, for Johnson, it's all going to happen.

721
00:35:30,520 --> 00:35:32,560
Speaker 5: It's all happening. It's happening right now.

722
00:35:32,719 --> 00:35:34,240
Speaker 4: So over under eight and a half.

723
00:35:35,960 --> 00:35:40,520
Speaker 1: Wins, Well, no number of times Caleb Williams is benched,

724
00:35:40,760 --> 00:35:42,080
Speaker 1: that's that's the that's.

725
00:35:42,000 --> 00:35:44,719
Speaker 5: The old no I was asking wins or touchdowns?

726
00:35:46,160 --> 00:35:49,600
Speaker 1: Wow, number of former Bear stars who call for Caleb

727
00:35:49,640 --> 00:35:51,640
Speaker 1: Williams to be benched this year? Eight and a half?

728
00:35:51,760 --> 00:35:56,400
Speaker 1: What's the over over way way? Well, but you have

729
00:35:56,520 --> 00:35:58,640
Speaker 1: to find legend. Can just be someone who played for

730
00:35:58,719 --> 00:36:00,000
Speaker 1: the team. It's got to be signed up.

731
00:36:00,400 --> 00:36:03,000
Speaker 4: It's different amongst the fans of a team. Right, there's

732
00:36:03,040 --> 00:36:06,239
Speaker 4: guys that you called it. The rest of the world laughs.

733
00:36:06,000 --> 00:36:09,960
Speaker 5: At I were talking about just former quarterbacks of the Bears.

734
00:36:10,040 --> 00:36:12,040
Speaker 5: Then eight and a half is a good number. They

735
00:36:12,080 --> 00:36:17,120
Speaker 5: were taking that total total former players because Olden cruits, well,

736
00:36:17,200 --> 00:36:19,200
Speaker 5: Ollen Krutz is going to come out in his favor.

737
00:36:19,360 --> 00:36:23,040
Speaker 5: I think his only crup. I remember getting a semi

738
00:36:23,239 --> 00:36:28,960
Speaker 5: argument with Ollen cruits about who was that that draft

739
00:36:29,040 --> 00:36:31,759
Speaker 5: that they that they drafted instead of Mahomes? What was

740
00:36:31,840 --> 00:36:38,960
Speaker 5: it Trubisky? Yeah, yeah, when Travisky. You know, Trivisky had

741
00:36:39,040 --> 00:36:42,759
Speaker 5: like rare games where he was like twenty three or

742
00:36:42,840 --> 00:36:46,239
Speaker 5: thirty five and threw a couple of balls me into

743
00:36:46,280 --> 00:36:49,840
Speaker 5: the outside that actually looked decent, And I was like, okay,

744
00:36:50,080 --> 00:36:51,800
Speaker 5: had he had a decent game, But he's still not

745
00:36:52,000 --> 00:36:55,640
Speaker 5: very good. And Owen Krutz just came right after and

746
00:36:55,719 --> 00:36:57,400
Speaker 5: we go, oh, what do you know and what do

747
00:36:57,480 --> 00:37:00,600
Speaker 5: you use? It's like he's not very good, Like you

748
00:37:00,719 --> 00:37:04,239
Speaker 5: have to look at it realistically. And Creutz was a

749
00:37:04,280 --> 00:37:06,880
Speaker 5: great defender in that case. So I guess he's the

750
00:37:06,920 --> 00:37:08,480
Speaker 5: guy who's always going to stick up for what the

751
00:37:08,560 --> 00:37:09,000
Speaker 5: Bears do.

752
00:37:10,719 --> 00:37:12,960
Speaker 1: But but I could find, like I could find like

753
00:37:13,080 --> 00:37:15,560
Speaker 1: Steve Fuller getting very upset and go up, there's one

754
00:37:15,640 --> 00:37:17,600
Speaker 1: Bears legend, Steve Fuller. Okay, got him?

755
00:37:18,400 --> 00:37:21,080
Speaker 5: Yeah, see, I think Fuller leads the pack. I mean

756
00:37:21,160 --> 00:37:24,319
Speaker 5: you're going to get I think eight and a half

757
00:37:24,400 --> 00:37:27,880
Speaker 5: on quarterback Salon's good numbers. It's really good number I got.

758
00:37:29,040 --> 00:37:32,359
Speaker 5: But I definitely I definitely go over. I definitely go over.

759
00:37:32,560 --> 00:37:34,279
Speaker 4: How do I get crouts into the Hall of Fame

760
00:37:34,320 --> 00:37:35,560
Speaker 4: while we're while we're on him.

761
00:37:36,360 --> 00:37:38,719
Speaker 5: Yeah, that's gonna that. That's not gonna happen. I like

762
00:37:38,760 --> 00:37:42,400
Speaker 5: all crude, but yeah, it's not gonna happen. Just like that.

763
00:37:43,200 --> 00:37:43,880
Speaker 4: Just dismiss me.

764
00:37:47,880 --> 00:37:53,480
Speaker 5: The way the new rules are, it's gonna be so

765
00:37:53,560 --> 00:37:55,279
Speaker 5: hard to get more than three or four guys in

766
00:37:55,320 --> 00:37:58,120
Speaker 5: the Hall of Fame in a given year, which.

767
00:37:58,080 --> 00:37:59,880
Speaker 1: Well, you just have to have a very good career

768
00:38:00,000 --> 00:38:01,200
Speaker 1: when you get in the Hall of Fame. You don't

769
00:38:01,200 --> 00:38:02,560
Speaker 1: need to be great. You used to be very good?

770
00:38:03,400 --> 00:38:05,760
Speaker 5: Did you do? You know what the do we discuss

771
00:38:05,800 --> 00:38:06,719
Speaker 5: the new rules yet?

772
00:38:07,360 --> 00:38:07,400
Speaker 4: No?

773
00:38:08,000 --> 00:38:09,839
Speaker 1: What did they tell you? You have to be well? About? Sure?

774
00:38:09,840 --> 00:38:12,000
Speaker 1: They said, hey, they have to be at least very

775
00:38:12,080 --> 00:38:15,080
Speaker 1: good and then they're eligible. Okay, great, that's the new rule.

776
00:38:15,680 --> 00:38:19,000
Speaker 5: No, no, this is actually a realistic thing, and it's

777
00:38:19,040 --> 00:38:21,600
Speaker 5: a real problem because a lot of dudes you're going

778
00:38:21,680 --> 00:38:23,400
Speaker 5: to get to get in? Are you going to have

779
00:38:23,480 --> 00:38:25,719
Speaker 5: a hard time? We're we're going to have a real

780
00:38:25,800 --> 00:38:28,399
Speaker 5: backlog of players here in three or four years. Where

781
00:38:28,400 --> 00:38:30,640
Speaker 5: are you're going to go That guy really actually does

782
00:38:30,719 --> 00:38:34,360
Speaker 5: deserve to get in but can't get in because what

783
00:38:34,480 --> 00:38:37,680
Speaker 5: they did is instead of us going from we used

784
00:38:37,719 --> 00:38:40,080
Speaker 5: to go from the you'd have the group of fifteen

785
00:38:40,160 --> 00:38:42,040
Speaker 5: that you would argue about, and you cut that group

786
00:38:42,120 --> 00:38:45,319
Speaker 5: down from fifteen to ten, and then you would cut

787
00:38:45,400 --> 00:38:47,320
Speaker 5: them from ten to five. And it was kind of

788
00:38:47,400 --> 00:38:49,680
Speaker 5: became a rubber stamp of those five we're going to

789
00:38:49,760 --> 00:38:52,160
Speaker 5: get in, right. And that went on for a few years,

790
00:38:52,200 --> 00:38:55,480
Speaker 5: and then there was a bunch of whining and complaining,

791
00:38:56,960 --> 00:38:59,960
Speaker 5: especially after the Blue Ribbon year that they put all

792
00:39:00,080 --> 00:39:02,560
Speaker 5: the seniors in, which that was a massive mistake because

793
00:39:02,640 --> 00:39:07,040
Speaker 5: that caused the whole Hall of very good argument when

794
00:39:07,120 --> 00:39:12,120
Speaker 5: we were letting in Harold Carmichael and the Drew Pearson's

795
00:39:12,160 --> 00:39:12,600
Speaker 5: of the world.

796
00:39:13,520 --> 00:39:15,960
Speaker 1: Carmichael, I think I know what happened there is he

797
00:39:16,080 --> 00:39:18,279
Speaker 1: was supposed to be in the Tall of Fame and

798
00:39:18,640 --> 00:39:19,600
Speaker 1: they actually put.

799
00:39:20,600 --> 00:39:25,040
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, that was welcome to the layup drill for stuff.

800
00:39:26,320 --> 00:39:30,640
Speaker 5: So yeah, you keep going with the radio layup drills, okay.

801
00:39:31,160 --> 00:39:36,319
Speaker 5: But the overreaction to that was to do this where

802
00:39:36,360 --> 00:39:38,680
Speaker 5: we instead of cutting down from ten to five we

803
00:39:38,880 --> 00:39:42,120
Speaker 5: come from, we cut down from ten to seven and

804
00:39:42,280 --> 00:39:46,120
Speaker 5: then the seven. In order to get to gain entry,

805
00:39:46,239 --> 00:39:49,839
Speaker 5: you have to get at least eighty percent. Well, there's

806
00:39:49,880 --> 00:39:52,839
Speaker 5: fifty voters. There's two hundred and fifty votes because each

807
00:39:52,880 --> 00:39:55,440
Speaker 5: of us gets to vote for five. If you have

808
00:39:55,560 --> 00:39:57,640
Speaker 5: a guy, like a couple of guys who are like

809
00:39:58,239 --> 00:40:00,640
Speaker 5: unanimous pitch, like a Drew Brees is going to be

810
00:40:01,080 --> 00:40:03,880
Speaker 5: pretty much a un analyst pick this year, all of

811
00:40:03,880 --> 00:40:06,840
Speaker 5: a sudden, you take out fifty of those votes, you

812
00:40:06,920 --> 00:40:09,560
Speaker 5: probably take out another forty five for the next best guy,

813
00:40:10,440 --> 00:40:12,239
Speaker 5: and you're not less with a lot of votes for

814
00:40:12,360 --> 00:40:15,680
Speaker 5: the last five guys. I think this year we only

815
00:40:15,760 --> 00:40:18,920
Speaker 5: put in three under the new system. I think that

816
00:40:19,080 --> 00:40:23,640
Speaker 5: three is going to be more typical, and it's going

817
00:40:23,719 --> 00:40:26,040
Speaker 5: to be hard to get to four and almost impossible

818
00:40:26,080 --> 00:40:28,640
Speaker 5: to get to five. So there's actually going to be

819
00:40:28,880 --> 00:40:32,759
Speaker 5: guys because the problem with the process is not the

820
00:40:32,960 --> 00:40:36,800
Speaker 5: modern day guys. The problem with the process is the

821
00:40:36,960 --> 00:40:39,560
Speaker 5: senior guys that you and I talked about or we

822
00:40:39,880 --> 00:40:45,439
Speaker 5: talk about that are borderline and those are the guys

823
00:40:45,480 --> 00:40:48,640
Speaker 5: who keep getting in where everybody's looking around going that

824
00:40:48,960 --> 00:40:53,080
Speaker 5: is in now like seriously, like like Chuck Howligan, but

825
00:40:53,520 --> 00:40:57,719
Speaker 5: like he's he's not even like a cowboy B, like

826
00:40:58,000 --> 00:41:02,200
Speaker 5: he's a cowboy C. That's you know, like and that

827
00:41:02,520 --> 00:41:04,640
Speaker 5: served along the lines of your Tall of Fame.

828
00:41:05,719 --> 00:41:08,719
Speaker 1: Layup Dill, layup Jill, the congratulations for the lamp till,

829
00:41:08,840 --> 00:41:12,120
Speaker 1: although that also assumed everybody knew who Harold Carmichael was.

830
00:41:12,600 --> 00:41:14,680
Speaker 4: Yeah, right, come on a label.

831
00:41:15,239 --> 00:41:17,600
Speaker 5: That's the whole point that Harold Carmichael got in the

832
00:41:17,680 --> 00:41:21,000
Speaker 5: Hall of Fame. And I remember Harold Carmichael is a

833
00:41:21,120 --> 00:41:24,919
Speaker 5: very good player, and he was very tall. It's very tall.

834
00:41:25,000 --> 00:41:27,840
Speaker 5: He's very He set some record for most games, like

835
00:41:28,000 --> 00:41:30,520
Speaker 5: consecutive games with the catch, like I don't know, two

836
00:41:30,640 --> 00:41:35,080
Speaker 5: hundred or something like that, you know, notable achievement. But

837
00:41:35,160 --> 00:41:37,040
Speaker 5: I always look back at going Look, I grew up

838
00:41:37,040 --> 00:41:39,640
Speaker 5: a Rams fan, and Harold Jackson was better than him.

839
00:41:40,400 --> 00:41:43,640
Speaker 5: And Harold Jackson does not belong in the Hall of Fame.

840
00:41:44,120 --> 00:41:47,080
Speaker 5: Like Harold Jackson was probably better than Drew Pearson doesn't

841
00:41:47,120 --> 00:41:50,080
Speaker 5: belong in the Hall of Fame. That's Drew Pearson had

842
00:41:50,120 --> 00:41:54,680
Speaker 5: some moments, no question about it. But like we've sort

843
00:41:54,680 --> 00:41:57,240
Speaker 5: of softened that line with some of the old time guys,

844
00:41:57,680 --> 00:42:00,359
Speaker 5: and when we put in twenty of them in one

845
00:42:00,480 --> 00:42:04,719
Speaker 5: year because we thought that there was some backlog of

846
00:42:04,760 --> 00:42:06,400
Speaker 5: these guys have to get in. It's like no, no, no,

847
00:42:07,000 --> 00:42:10,200
Speaker 5: they don't have to get in. They didn't get voted

848
00:42:10,239 --> 00:42:13,439
Speaker 5: in during their careers because they weren't quite good enough,

849
00:42:13,719 --> 00:42:16,719
Speaker 5: you know, Like that's that's how this works. But now

850
00:42:16,840 --> 00:42:19,719
Speaker 5: we're punishing guys who, like, I don't know that Tory

851
00:42:19,840 --> 00:42:22,759
Speaker 5: Holt or Reggie Wayne are going to get in the

852
00:42:22,840 --> 00:42:26,520
Speaker 5: Hall of Fame anytime soon. Like they may take those

853
00:42:26,560 --> 00:42:29,200
Speaker 5: guys another five or ten years to get in the

854
00:42:29,280 --> 00:42:31,720
Speaker 5: way that the system is set up. And Reggie Wayne

855
00:42:32,400 --> 00:42:36,320
Speaker 5: and Tory Holt are guys who I think are definitely

856
00:42:36,440 --> 00:42:39,880
Speaker 5: Hall of Fame guys. They're not. They're way better than

857
00:42:40,040 --> 00:42:42,120
Speaker 5: Drew Pearson's and Harold Carmichaels of the world.

858
00:42:42,960 --> 00:42:45,640
Speaker 1: He's on Twitter at Jason cole sixty two. That is

859
00:42:45,680 --> 00:42:46,640
Speaker 1: at Jason Coleson.

860
00:42:46,840 --> 00:42:49,080
Speaker 5: That was That was way too serious, man, That was

861
00:42:49,320 --> 00:42:50,200
Speaker 5: that was very serious.

862
00:42:50,200 --> 00:42:51,920
Speaker 4: It was very somuch fantastic. Well, you did get a

863
00:42:51,960 --> 00:42:53,640
Speaker 4: cowboy bes and that was good.

864
00:42:54,760 --> 00:42:58,600
Speaker 5: That was not bad. That's not bad. Now we're gonna

865
00:42:58,600 --> 00:42:59,600
Speaker 5: talk about Jerry this week.

866
00:42:59,640 --> 00:43:01,800
Speaker 1: This well, well we'll get to Jerry, don't we go

867
00:43:03,200 --> 00:43:03,759
Speaker 1: in my way?

868
00:43:04,480 --> 00:43:08,759
Speaker 5: Terrible's surviving, he is, You're surviving.

869
00:43:09,280 --> 00:43:11,480
Speaker 4: We're cowboy bees. Any part of that treatment.

870
00:43:11,800 --> 00:43:14,400
Speaker 2: Be sure to catch live editions of The Jason Smith

871
00:43:14,440 --> 00:43:17,520
Speaker 2: Show with Mike harmon weekdays at ten pm Eastern, seven

872
00:43:17,600 --> 00:43:21,719
Speaker 2: pm Pacific on Fox Sports Radio and the iHeartRadio app.

873
00:43:22,239 --> 00:43:24,879
Speaker 1: Walking through our door right now, nobody better to chop

874
00:43:24,960 --> 00:43:29,560
Speaker 1: this up with than the editor proprietor Grand Pooba of

875
00:43:29,719 --> 00:43:33,680
Speaker 1: College Footballnews dot com. You're one stop shopping for everything

876
00:43:33,840 --> 00:43:37,160
Speaker 1: college football. Longtime front of the show, Pete Futech. He

877
00:43:37,280 --> 00:43:40,480
Speaker 1: is on Twitter at Pete Futech. Right now he is

878
00:43:40,600 --> 00:43:43,600
Speaker 1: feuding with people who say Tim Tebow is the greatest

879
00:43:43,680 --> 00:43:47,440
Speaker 1: quarterback in college football history. It is Pete Feutech. What's happening?

880
00:43:47,480 --> 00:43:51,719
Speaker 6: Man, Hey, buddy, hey, he was, whether we all want

881
00:43:51,760 --> 00:43:52,520
Speaker 6: to believe it or not.

882
00:43:52,719 --> 00:43:54,719
Speaker 1: Sy Oh no, I'm with you. He absolutely was.

883
00:43:55,239 --> 00:43:58,160
Speaker 6: I ever saying I never liked the act, I never

884
00:43:58,239 --> 00:44:01,520
Speaker 6: thought the thing, but I will admit to greatness where

885
00:44:01,520 --> 00:44:03,560
Speaker 6: I must, and so I would admit to it there.

886
00:44:03,600 --> 00:44:04,440
Speaker 5: So let me ask you this.

887
00:44:04,840 --> 00:44:06,680
Speaker 6: Let's start out our show.

888
00:44:06,560 --> 00:44:07,600
Speaker 5: Cause segment with this.

889
00:44:08,080 --> 00:44:08,239
Speaker 1: OK.

890
00:44:08,360 --> 00:44:12,440
Speaker 6: Have they ever did the Fab five actually go to

891
00:44:12,760 --> 00:44:16,399
Speaker 6: a Final four or two or a national championship or two?

892
00:44:16,560 --> 00:44:19,040
Speaker 6: Or is that not been acknowledge yet or is that

893
00:44:19,200 --> 00:44:20,360
Speaker 6: still considered tainted.

894
00:44:21,640 --> 00:44:23,680
Speaker 1: I know, if everybody remembers a Fab five in the

895
00:44:24,000 --> 00:44:26,480
Speaker 1: National Championship game, I think people still remember that.

896
00:44:27,200 --> 00:44:29,120
Speaker 5: But but it didn't exist, right, right.

897
00:44:30,719 --> 00:44:32,600
Speaker 6: They took down the beat, they took down the pieces

898
00:44:32,600 --> 00:44:37,480
Speaker 6: of cloth in the in the in the arena, so

899
00:44:37,640 --> 00:44:41,080
Speaker 6: it obviously never happened. And if it did, well, then

900
00:44:41,320 --> 00:44:43,520
Speaker 6: you know it's tainted. It's you know, you're supposed to

901
00:44:43,560 --> 00:44:46,920
Speaker 6: feel bad about yourself when you remember those days, right.

902
00:44:48,000 --> 00:44:51,240
Speaker 1: I mean, repete, could they have done something and taken

903
00:44:51,280 --> 00:44:53,719
Speaker 1: away the National Championship have done that? Yeah, but I

904
00:44:54,239 --> 00:44:58,120
Speaker 1: feel like you had three years. You had three years

905
00:44:58,239 --> 00:44:59,960
Speaker 1: to try to prove this. In the fact, I'm sorry

906
00:45:00,160 --> 00:45:02,480
Speaker 1: the Connor Stallions found a way to outsmart you when

907
00:45:02,480 --> 00:45:05,000
Speaker 1: you couldn't get the evidence, and that boy, I really

908
00:45:05,040 --> 00:45:07,000
Speaker 1: want to be investigated by the NSA if I do

909
00:45:07,080 --> 00:45:09,160
Speaker 1: something wrong, because they're not gonna find anything because I'm

910
00:45:09,160 --> 00:45:10,759
Speaker 1: a little bit smarter than him, and boy, look at

911
00:45:10,800 --> 00:45:13,200
Speaker 1: what he was able to do. I'm just glad that

912
00:45:13,280 --> 00:45:15,920
Speaker 1: it's over, you know, because again, they could have done

913
00:45:15,960 --> 00:45:18,600
Speaker 1: something bigger a couple of years ago. They could have said, hey,

914
00:45:18,960 --> 00:45:21,399
Speaker 1: this is a big deal, we're gonna ban you from

915
00:45:21,520 --> 00:45:24,120
Speaker 1: winning the Big Ten or ban you from postseason play

916
00:45:24,200 --> 00:45:26,239
Speaker 1: this year. They could have done something pretty strong for

917
00:45:26,360 --> 00:45:28,440
Speaker 1: one year, but instead, no, no, we're gonna wait and

918
00:45:28,520 --> 00:45:30,800
Speaker 1: try to get all the proof we can. They couldn't

919
00:45:30,800 --> 00:45:33,160
Speaker 1: get any So now, yeah, here's a twenty million dollar

920
00:45:33,280 --> 00:45:34,960
Speaker 1: fine and a suspension you were going to give to

921
00:45:34,960 --> 00:45:35,680
Speaker 1: your coach anyway.

922
00:45:36,040 --> 00:45:39,759
Speaker 6: There was a window of about four weeks where when

923
00:45:40,440 --> 00:45:43,080
Speaker 6: when it all hits a fan, when when they're like,

924
00:45:43,120 --> 00:45:46,200
Speaker 6: wait a minute, this, you know, there's nothing illegal here,

925
00:45:46,239 --> 00:45:49,000
Speaker 6: and technically there still is it there they're actually getting

926
00:45:49,040 --> 00:45:52,320
Speaker 6: nailed for other stuff because there was never any rules

927
00:45:52,480 --> 00:45:55,080
Speaker 6: against this. It might have been an American, but there

928
00:45:55,160 --> 00:45:57,360
Speaker 6: was never anything that said you are not allowed to

929
00:45:57,400 --> 00:45:59,040
Speaker 6: do this. Others that have us you know you're not

930
00:45:59,200 --> 00:46:01,160
Speaker 6: except you're not allowed to scout in the stadium, but

931
00:46:01,280 --> 00:46:02,759
Speaker 6: that's if you're an official.

932
00:46:02,480 --> 00:46:03,759
Speaker 5: Capacity blah blah blah.

933
00:46:04,200 --> 00:46:07,239
Speaker 6: But like, the only way this would have worked had

934
00:46:07,360 --> 00:46:09,360
Speaker 6: it would have been for the Big Ten at the

935
00:46:09,480 --> 00:46:13,239
Speaker 6: time to have said no, Michigan is not eligible to

936
00:46:13,360 --> 00:46:16,319
Speaker 6: play for the Big Ten championship, and then it would

937
00:46:16,360 --> 00:46:18,239
Speaker 6: have been up to the College Football Playoff commit to

938
00:46:18,239 --> 00:46:20,000
Speaker 6: decide what it would wanted to have done with that,

939
00:46:20,200 --> 00:46:22,440
Speaker 6: which they could have still said, Hey, we're going to do.

940
00:46:22,560 --> 00:46:23,760
Speaker 5: Our job is to come for the four.

941
00:46:23,680 --> 00:46:26,200
Speaker 6: Best teams and that's this year's Michigan teams. And to

942
00:46:26,400 --> 00:46:29,799
Speaker 6: your point, all the screaming, all these coaches like, oh

943
00:46:29,920 --> 00:46:32,759
Speaker 6: yeah we knew this was happening. Well too bad. You

944
00:46:32,840 --> 00:46:36,319
Speaker 6: know where were you then? And also to your point,

945
00:46:36,920 --> 00:46:40,960
Speaker 6: Robins racing son I you you know, people really mad

946
00:46:41,000 --> 00:46:43,320
Speaker 6: about this are like, well, we didn't think of it first.

947
00:46:43,200 --> 00:46:43,960
Speaker 5: Or do it as well?

948
00:46:44,600 --> 00:46:49,200
Speaker 6: So I I it's not right, it's not good. But

949
00:46:49,480 --> 00:46:51,920
Speaker 6: like this, you know, what are you doing twenty twenty million?

950
00:46:51,960 --> 00:46:54,040
Speaker 6: I mean you Michigan types have that, you know in

951
00:46:54,120 --> 00:46:58,359
Speaker 6: your pockets, you know, and couch cushions. That's that's nothing. Okay,

952
00:46:58,400 --> 00:47:02,440
Speaker 6: you're you're suspending your own more against central directional something

953
00:47:02,560 --> 00:47:05,919
Speaker 6: or other. And no, if Jim Harbaugh wants the coach

954
00:47:06,000 --> 00:47:09,200
Speaker 6: in the college football again, yeah he's coming back. And

955
00:47:09,280 --> 00:47:12,080
Speaker 6: if someone says, well you gotta say, you know, you

956
00:47:12,160 --> 00:47:16,000
Speaker 6: gotta save yourself, no, yes, who's gonna say no to him?

957
00:47:16,160 --> 00:47:18,800
Speaker 6: You can still hire him. There's no east to this,

958
00:47:19,640 --> 00:47:22,480
Speaker 6: like it's just like a bunch of blah blah blah

959
00:47:22,520 --> 00:47:25,960
Speaker 6: and ball gets kicked off in seven days from well.

960
00:47:25,880 --> 00:47:28,719
Speaker 4: That's it, right, just tie up the bow and let

961
00:47:28,800 --> 00:47:31,080
Speaker 4: people gripe for a week and then we'll have a

962
00:47:31,200 --> 00:47:33,839
Speaker 4: kickoff and everybody will say squirrel and that's the end.

963
00:47:33,800 --> 00:47:35,400
Speaker 5: Of it exactly.

964
00:47:35,520 --> 00:47:37,960
Speaker 6: And then you know, but oh no, this only g

965
00:47:38,239 --> 00:47:42,880
Speaker 6: oh it hainted. Now feel bad about yourselves. Michigan fans, Yeah, okay,

966
00:47:43,719 --> 00:47:47,719
Speaker 6: like yeah, that that'll work. Oh I File State fans,

967
00:47:47,760 --> 00:47:50,799
Speaker 6: you win. Oh no, you didn't beat that. That there

968
00:47:50,880 --> 00:47:51,359
Speaker 6: wins over.

969
00:47:51,440 --> 00:47:52,200
Speaker 5: You don't count now.

970
00:47:52,400 --> 00:47:54,640
Speaker 6: No, it's just it's so silly.

971
00:47:56,000 --> 00:47:58,319
Speaker 4: But that's the end game, right is we're looking twenty

972
00:47:58,360 --> 00:48:01,560
Speaker 4: million dollars plus whatever. It's a tenth of your operating budget.

973
00:48:01,640 --> 00:48:04,480
Speaker 4: Get Steven Ross or someone uh to cut a check.

974
00:48:04,560 --> 00:48:07,160
Speaker 4: Here's Tom Brady from one of his card shops. Boom

975
00:48:07,680 --> 00:48:11,759
Speaker 4: uh no postseason ban, none of that and more has

976
00:48:11,840 --> 00:48:13,520
Speaker 4: to miss a couple of games. I think you'll take

977
00:48:13,520 --> 00:48:17,600
Speaker 4: a national title and a couple of bad headlines from blogs.

978
00:48:17,680 --> 00:48:21,200
Speaker 4: I mean, it's just shows how toothless everything is at

979
00:48:21,239 --> 00:48:26,680
Speaker 4: this point, and to the larger collegiate world.

980
00:48:26,719 --> 00:48:29,319
Speaker 6: I mean, you did touch on the one big thing

981
00:48:29,600 --> 00:48:32,919
Speaker 6: you touched on the what no postseason banned? Like taking

982
00:48:32,960 --> 00:48:36,600
Speaker 6: away scholarships doesn't matter anymore in an NIL world, so

983
00:48:36,880 --> 00:48:40,000
Speaker 6: you can't. So the only real thing that they could

984
00:48:40,040 --> 00:48:42,640
Speaker 6: have done is said, you know what, You're not gonna

985
00:48:42,640 --> 00:48:44,520
Speaker 6: give you a death penalty or but we're gonna say

986
00:48:44,520 --> 00:48:47,120
Speaker 6: you can't play in the college football playoff or a

987
00:48:47,160 --> 00:48:50,320
Speaker 6: Big Ten championship for the next however many years. But

988
00:48:50,920 --> 00:48:54,040
Speaker 6: at this point in the business world of college athletics,

989
00:48:54,360 --> 00:48:57,200
Speaker 6: you do that, and five seconds later you're getting calls

990
00:48:57,239 --> 00:49:00,520
Speaker 6: from grape Vine, Texas, and Bristol, Connecticut and in all

991
00:49:00,560 --> 00:49:03,680
Speaker 6: these places like, ah, you want to take Michigan. We

992
00:49:03,840 --> 00:49:07,799
Speaker 6: got billions of dollars invested in this whole Big Ten thing,

993
00:49:08,120 --> 00:49:10,800
Speaker 6: and you want to make Michigan a non entity. No

994
00:49:11,200 --> 00:49:15,000
Speaker 6: we're not, We're not doing that and this so try again.

995
00:49:15,880 --> 00:49:18,439
Speaker 1: Now, Pete. The whole thing is that, like somebody could

996
00:49:18,480 --> 00:49:21,799
Speaker 1: have done something a year ago, two years or whatever

997
00:49:21,840 --> 00:49:23,840
Speaker 1: and it would have been over. And I feel like

998
00:49:24,680 --> 00:49:27,760
Speaker 1: like the NCA had a chance to do something. Clearly

999
00:49:27,920 --> 00:49:30,200
Speaker 1: there was evidence there there was something they could have done,

1000
00:49:30,640 --> 00:49:33,920
Speaker 1: and now after three years, I just feel like, Okay,

1001
00:49:34,120 --> 00:49:36,200
Speaker 1: I think everybody's just glad it's over. Like I think

1002
00:49:36,239 --> 00:49:39,759
Speaker 1: they think that's the overwhelming thing takeaway. Okay, good, this

1003
00:49:39,840 --> 00:49:41,680
Speaker 1: story went on. You know, people are going for their

1004
00:49:41,760 --> 00:49:43,560
Speaker 1: four years at Michigan and they're going to say, yeah,

1005
00:49:43,560 --> 00:49:45,359
Speaker 1: every year my coach was suspended for the first two

1006
00:49:45,400 --> 00:49:47,960
Speaker 1: games of the year. Yeah, I mean saying that, like,

1007
00:49:48,360 --> 00:49:50,359
Speaker 1: I'm just glad that this is done at this point.

1008
00:49:51,040 --> 00:49:53,960
Speaker 6: Yeah, I think so. And you know, now it's all

1009
00:49:54,040 --> 00:49:58,640
Speaker 6: about you know, Ken Michigan actually winning now, and you know,

1010
00:49:58,800 --> 00:50:01,719
Speaker 6: because it great year is a one, you know, one

1011
00:50:01,800 --> 00:50:05,719
Speaker 6: great season built to that, and there's always something. But yeah,

1012
00:50:05,880 --> 00:50:08,759
Speaker 6: it's I'm glad it's hopefully it's over. But you know,

1013
00:50:08,840 --> 00:50:10,920
Speaker 6: of course, if you look on social media and stuff,

1014
00:50:10,920 --> 00:50:14,600
Speaker 6: it'll never be over. But for the people who really matter,

1015
00:50:14,600 --> 00:50:17,799
Speaker 6: I mean, remember, in my little, weird little world, it's

1016
00:50:17,840 --> 00:50:20,360
Speaker 6: only a fraction of the people who care about this.

1017
00:50:20,560 --> 00:50:23,520
Speaker 6: Ninety eight percent of the people who care about college

1018
00:50:23,520 --> 00:50:26,560
Speaker 6: football are coming aboard right about now, and this is

1019
00:50:26,600 --> 00:50:27,600
Speaker 6: when they start to care.

1020
00:50:27,960 --> 00:50:30,200
Speaker 4: All that to say they might actually have that quarterback

1021
00:50:30,320 --> 00:50:33,520
Speaker 4: that they said Jim Harbond never did. Plus eight hundred

1022
00:50:33,640 --> 00:50:36,920
Speaker 4: to win the Big Ten behind Ohio State, Penn State, Oregon.

1023
00:50:37,000 --> 00:50:38,240
Speaker 4: Do they have a puncher's chance?

1024
00:50:39,080 --> 00:50:43,040
Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean, of course, because we don't know. Ohio

1025
00:50:43,160 --> 00:50:47,000
Speaker 6: State's just a theory because last year it was they

1026
00:50:47,040 --> 00:50:49,920
Speaker 6: had everyone, they were everyone back. Now they're replacing everyone.

1027
00:50:50,000 --> 00:50:52,239
Speaker 6: We're assuming that they're just going to.

1028
00:50:52,239 --> 00:50:55,960
Speaker 5: Replace all this talent that was built up over.

1029
00:50:55,920 --> 00:50:59,120
Speaker 6: Years and years and years, and they're just there's assuming

1030
00:50:59,200 --> 00:51:01,560
Speaker 6: that all of ju and Sayan is going to be

1031
00:51:01,760 --> 00:51:04,680
Speaker 6: the next great Ohio State quarterback because he might be.

1032
00:51:04,960 --> 00:51:07,440
Speaker 6: You know, they didn't go after anybody, so okay, he

1033
00:51:07,800 --> 00:51:11,239
Speaker 6: might be that good. And that's that's a lot to ask.

1034
00:51:11,480 --> 00:51:15,440
Speaker 6: But Oregon's still very, very good. But that's assuming that

1035
00:51:15,560 --> 00:51:17,680
Speaker 6: Dante More is going to be great at quarterback and

1036
00:51:17,800 --> 00:51:20,520
Speaker 6: be the next big thing. I still think if if

1037
00:51:20,680 --> 00:51:23,640
Speaker 6: penns if the talent, it's at Penn State right now.

1038
00:51:23,640 --> 00:51:25,759
Speaker 6: If you took the Penn State team and put him

1039
00:51:25,760 --> 00:51:29,879
Speaker 6: at Alabama or Georgia or Ohio State, nobody else gets

1040
00:51:29,920 --> 00:51:33,560
Speaker 6: the number one vote just there. They have the most talents,

1041
00:51:33,640 --> 00:51:37,560
Speaker 6: the most experienced. Now they have Ohio State defensive coordinator.

1042
00:51:38,520 --> 00:51:41,799
Speaker 6: They have everything in place to be the number one team,

1043
00:51:42,040 --> 00:51:45,759
Speaker 6: accept the respect of a wanting nation who thinks that

1044
00:51:45,880 --> 00:51:47,560
Speaker 6: James Franklin cannot win a game.

1045
00:51:48,239 --> 00:51:49,880
Speaker 5: So that's all that's missing.

1046
00:51:49,960 --> 00:51:52,799
Speaker 1: Here all right, so pete, lastly, here we are. We're

1047
00:51:52,800 --> 00:51:55,960
Speaker 1: getting We're creeping closer and closer to opening two week

1048
00:51:56,120 --> 00:52:00,239
Speaker 1: zero in college football, the soft artening, the soft yeah, yes,

1049
00:52:00,280 --> 00:52:03,040
Speaker 1: the soft opening coming up next week. Where do you

1050
00:52:03,160 --> 00:52:05,839
Speaker 1: sit right knowing that full that times it can change

1051
00:52:05,880 --> 00:52:09,520
Speaker 1: between now and the thirtieth? Are you stock up arch Manning?

1052
00:52:09,680 --> 00:52:11,319
Speaker 1: Are you stock down arch Manning?

1053
00:52:11,360 --> 00:52:14,360
Speaker 6: Where are you on arch I've stock up arch Manning.

1054
00:52:14,400 --> 00:52:17,400
Speaker 6: I'm not stock up on Texas. I just look, if

1055
00:52:17,480 --> 00:52:20,680
Speaker 6: they lose to Ohio State in the opener, which isn't crazy,

1056
00:52:21,120 --> 00:52:24,040
Speaker 6: and they lose at Georgia late in the season, which

1057
00:52:24,160 --> 00:52:28,839
Speaker 6: is hardly crazy, they can't lose another game, and Oklahoma

1058
00:52:28,960 --> 00:52:32,879
Speaker 6: is really good. So let's say Texas loses a tough

1059
00:52:32,960 --> 00:52:36,879
Speaker 6: one to Ohio State, they lose a tough one to Oklahoma,

1060
00:52:37,000 --> 00:52:40,320
Speaker 6: and they lose at Georgia. Well we can rationally, we

1061
00:52:40,360 --> 00:52:42,480
Speaker 6: can say, well, okay, they just lost the three of

1062
00:52:42,520 --> 00:52:45,120
Speaker 6: the best teams in college football. Of course, they've belong

1063
00:52:45,160 --> 00:52:48,400
Speaker 6: in a twelve team playoffs. In reality, in the college

1064
00:52:48,440 --> 00:52:51,439
Speaker 6: football playoff era in the eleven years, if you didn't

1065
00:52:51,480 --> 00:52:53,600
Speaker 6: have at least ten regular season wins, you're not in

1066
00:52:53,719 --> 00:52:57,480
Speaker 6: the thing. So I'm still not quite buying into the

1067
00:52:57,520 --> 00:53:01,920
Speaker 6: whole Texas thing arch Manning. I keep asking people about him.

1068
00:53:02,280 --> 00:53:04,680
Speaker 6: I have yet to hear a negative word. I mean,

1069
00:53:04,760 --> 00:53:07,399
Speaker 6: he's just everyone loves the guy.

1070
00:53:08,080 --> 00:53:08,640
Speaker 5: He gets it.

1071
00:53:08,920 --> 00:53:12,680
Speaker 6: He's that good, he's that talented. He literally since birth,

1072
00:53:12,760 --> 00:53:15,520
Speaker 6: he's been preparing for this. He knows who he is,

1073
00:53:15,640 --> 00:53:18,200
Speaker 6: he knows who his last name is. He still acts

1074
00:53:18,280 --> 00:53:19,160
Speaker 6: like one of the guys.

1075
00:53:19,520 --> 00:53:19,960
Speaker 5: Apparently.

1076
00:53:19,960 --> 00:53:22,320
Speaker 6: He's got just this great sense of humor that just

1077
00:53:22,520 --> 00:53:25,640
Speaker 6: everyone gets fall in love with. And if he lights

1078
00:53:25,719 --> 00:53:28,640
Speaker 6: up Ohio State to start the season, then this is

1079
00:53:28,719 --> 00:53:31,799
Speaker 6: the year of Arch Manning. But I actually am buying

1080
00:53:31,840 --> 00:53:34,120
Speaker 6: into the idea that he's not going to be the

1081
00:53:34,400 --> 00:53:36,439
Speaker 6: top guy in the draft next yearcause he might stay

1082
00:53:36,480 --> 00:53:40,560
Speaker 6: around like his brother as a uncle did. So this

1083
00:53:40,719 --> 00:53:42,120
Speaker 6: is going to be the year of arch Manning. I

1084
00:53:42,280 --> 00:53:44,719
Speaker 6: just I'm not sold to Texas As. This be all

1085
00:53:44,840 --> 00:53:46,880
Speaker 6: end all number one that everyone's putting him at.

1086
00:53:47,040 --> 00:53:50,040
Speaker 1: He's on Twitter at Pete Futech, that is at Pete Futech,

1087
00:53:50,160 --> 00:53:53,120
Speaker 1: starting a string of meeting and coming on with us

1088
00:53:53,280 --> 00:53:56,959
Speaker 1: every week and previewing and breaking down college football. Pete,

1089
00:53:57,000 --> 00:53:58,600
Speaker 1: hope you had a bad summer glad you're back man,

1090
00:53:58,600 --> 00:53:59,480
Speaker 1: we'll talk to you next week.

1091
00:53:59,680 --> 00:54:00,960
Speaker 6: As only guys you were going