1 00:00:00,720 --> 00:00:03,560 Speaker 1: You are listening to the Dan Patrick Show on Fox 2 00:00:03,600 --> 00:00:04,440 Speaker 1: Sports Radio. 3 00:00:04,720 --> 00:00:07,480 Speaker 2: I didn't run the menu by Darius Rucker or Will Ferrell, 4 00:00:07,600 --> 00:00:11,280 Speaker 2: but Will Will contacted me two weeks ago. He goes, Hey, 5 00:00:12,760 --> 00:00:15,560 Speaker 2: I want to stop by the man Cave. I go okay. 6 00:00:15,720 --> 00:00:20,120 Speaker 2: He goes, you know what's on my bucket list? Meet Friday? 7 00:00:20,160 --> 00:00:25,440 Speaker 2: And I go, okay, we'll check one item off your 8 00:00:25,480 --> 00:00:27,159 Speaker 2: bucket list that you want to come in for a 9 00:00:27,200 --> 00:00:30,280 Speaker 2: meet Friday. Darius just happened to be in the area 10 00:00:30,360 --> 00:00:34,680 Speaker 2: playing at a show tonight in Bridgeport, Connecticut, and I thought, well, 11 00:00:35,000 --> 00:00:37,000 Speaker 2: come on in. 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And then the commissioner, Adam Silver 32 00:01:42,840 --> 00:01:48,240 Speaker 2: was on CNBC and he talked about Lebron's situation yesterday. 33 00:01:49,200 --> 00:01:52,040 Speaker 3: We have to finish up the schedule right and where 34 00:01:52,280 --> 00:01:55,640 Speaker 3: Lebron plays will affect the schedule. So I would like 35 00:01:55,760 --> 00:01:58,520 Speaker 3: him to make his announcement already so we can finish 36 00:01:58,560 --> 00:02:00,360 Speaker 3: the schedule because as you might have mad and the 37 00:02:00,360 --> 00:02:02,440 Speaker 3: teams are calling us, the networks are calling us, and 38 00:02:02,440 --> 00:02:05,840 Speaker 3: everybody wants to lock in the schedule. But it will 39 00:02:05,840 --> 00:02:08,959 Speaker 3: influence how we set the schedule, do how he's said 40 00:02:09,000 --> 00:02:11,640 Speaker 3: an opening week, Christmas Day, et cetera. So I need 41 00:02:11,720 --> 00:02:12,600 Speaker 3: him to make a decision. 42 00:02:13,960 --> 00:02:16,680 Speaker 2: I didn't think of that. But here's the commissioner saying, 43 00:02:16,800 --> 00:02:18,720 Speaker 2: you know, we want to put out a schedule. We 44 00:02:18,800 --> 00:02:21,600 Speaker 2: want to tell you who's going to play on Christmas Day, 45 00:02:22,040 --> 00:02:26,919 Speaker 2: some of the featured events, nights, special you know, special 46 00:02:27,000 --> 00:02:29,680 Speaker 2: moments there for Lebron and his farewell tour or what 47 00:02:29,800 --> 00:02:32,840 Speaker 2: we think will be his farewell tour. But the commissioner, 48 00:02:33,080 --> 00:02:35,720 Speaker 2: you know, is Lebron going to be playing up you know, 49 00:02:35,800 --> 00:02:39,000 Speaker 2: predominantly East Coast games? Is he going to Philly? Is 50 00:02:39,040 --> 00:02:41,280 Speaker 2: he going to go to Miami? Is he going to Cleveland? 51 00:02:41,560 --> 00:02:44,480 Speaker 2: I know Golden State is still hanging around. Steph Curry 52 00:02:44,680 --> 00:02:47,680 Speaker 2: tried to make his recruiting pitch. Pat Riley's got a 53 00:02:47,720 --> 00:02:51,440 Speaker 2: recruiting pitch, like everybody is, you know, making their effort here, 54 00:02:51,840 --> 00:02:54,160 Speaker 2: We're going to try. It's almost like you have a 55 00:02:54,200 --> 00:02:57,440 Speaker 2: recruit he's down to four schools, and then you make 56 00:02:57,480 --> 00:03:00,480 Speaker 2: that final pitch. That's what you have. It'd be great 57 00:03:00,480 --> 00:03:03,040 Speaker 2: if Lebron just held a press conference and had four 58 00:03:03,120 --> 00:03:05,160 Speaker 2: hats there and then picked the hat and put it 59 00:03:05,200 --> 00:03:07,720 Speaker 2: on his head and said, I'm taking my talents back 60 00:03:07,760 --> 00:03:10,760 Speaker 2: to Cleveland or I'm going back home Miami is in 61 00:03:10,800 --> 00:03:13,800 Speaker 2: the mix here, and I think because they got Giannis 62 00:03:13,800 --> 00:03:16,440 Speaker 2: and you got pat Riley and pat Riley swings for 63 00:03:16,480 --> 00:03:19,680 Speaker 2: the fences. When you think about relevant teams, teams that 64 00:03:19,760 --> 00:03:23,480 Speaker 2: are always in the mix, they don't have down years, 65 00:03:23,800 --> 00:03:26,360 Speaker 2: and pat Riley is not afraid to go out and 66 00:03:26,400 --> 00:03:29,440 Speaker 2: get somebody. You know, you've had Alonzo Mourning in Shaq 67 00:03:29,560 --> 00:03:32,240 Speaker 2: and Lebron. I mean, you can go down the list. 68 00:03:32,560 --> 00:03:35,800 Speaker 2: They've gone out and they brought in some big names here. 69 00:03:36,040 --> 00:03:39,160 Speaker 2: And when you think about teams that are consistent where 70 00:03:39,440 --> 00:03:43,680 Speaker 2: they're in the mix, we don't look at them as rebuilding, reloading, 71 00:03:44,280 --> 00:03:50,200 Speaker 2: tanking Packers, Steelers, Spurs, Patriots, Celtics. They always seem to 72 00:03:50,200 --> 00:03:51,920 Speaker 2: be in the mix. Now. I know the Spurs had 73 00:03:51,960 --> 00:03:54,920 Speaker 2: a couple of down years before they got better when 74 00:03:54,960 --> 00:03:58,839 Speaker 2: they got David Robinson and Tim Duncan, and they had 75 00:03:58,960 --> 00:04:02,280 Speaker 2: a couple of down years before they got Wemby. But 76 00:04:02,400 --> 00:04:05,920 Speaker 2: these other teams, for the most part, you're pretty much 77 00:04:06,240 --> 00:04:09,600 Speaker 2: still in the mix now. I think we look at 78 00:04:09,600 --> 00:04:11,640 Speaker 2: it and say, sometimes you got to be really bad 79 00:04:11,720 --> 00:04:14,800 Speaker 2: to get good. And we've talked about the Steelers. The 80 00:04:14,840 --> 00:04:19,520 Speaker 2: Steelers are just good enough to be good, but not 81 00:04:19,800 --> 00:04:23,000 Speaker 2: good enough to be great or bad enough to be 82 00:04:23,279 --> 00:04:25,479 Speaker 2: bad where they can get a draft pick that maybe 83 00:04:25,480 --> 00:04:27,000 Speaker 2: they could get a high draft pick and get a 84 00:04:27,080 --> 00:04:31,000 Speaker 2: quarterback because they have been waiting to get that drafted 85 00:04:31,080 --> 00:04:33,360 Speaker 2: quarterback since Ben Roethlisberger. 86 00:04:33,960 --> 00:04:36,680 Speaker 4: Yes, Marvin, the way we talk about the Steelers, not 87 00:04:37,120 --> 00:04:39,440 Speaker 4: you know, advancing in the playoffs is like them getting 88 00:04:39,440 --> 00:04:41,800 Speaker 4: the first pick in the draft because the standards are 89 00:04:41,800 --> 00:04:43,760 Speaker 4: so high in Pittsburgh. You know, they're like, oh, man 90 00:04:43,839 --> 00:04:46,919 Speaker 4: nine and eight again, the Arizona Cardinals would kill to 91 00:04:47,000 --> 00:04:47,719 Speaker 4: be nine and eight. 92 00:04:48,760 --> 00:04:52,039 Speaker 5: Yes, Dylan, Yeah, I think that's what separates the teams, 93 00:04:52,120 --> 00:04:54,720 Speaker 5: like the Spurs for example, it's it's how long are 94 00:04:54,760 --> 00:04:57,880 Speaker 5: your downturns? Right, because like you could are you the 95 00:04:57,880 --> 00:04:59,880 Speaker 5: Cowboys and it's thirty years or are you the Spur 96 00:05:00,320 --> 00:05:02,640 Speaker 5: or the Heat where it's like three years. You rebuild 97 00:05:02,680 --> 00:05:03,360 Speaker 5: and then you're back. 98 00:05:03,960 --> 00:05:06,239 Speaker 2: But then you'll have teams and you go, oh, they're 99 00:05:06,480 --> 00:05:10,200 Speaker 2: bad this year, but the number one pick is not great. 100 00:05:10,320 --> 00:05:12,680 Speaker 2: You know, you could be the Atlanta Hawks where they 101 00:05:12,760 --> 00:05:19,880 Speaker 2: got the wrong Frenchman ree and you know instead of 102 00:05:19,880 --> 00:05:25,320 Speaker 2: getting Wemby, they get so certain teams where you go, well, 103 00:05:25,920 --> 00:05:33,080 Speaker 2: do'll teach you you're taking and you're taking the wrong year. Yes, Dylan, I. 104 00:05:33,720 --> 00:05:36,480 Speaker 5: Was trying to think of some other teams that are 105 00:05:36,560 --> 00:05:40,680 Speaker 5: kind of in that sort of like, you know, a 106 00:05:40,920 --> 00:05:45,280 Speaker 5: like the Pittsburgh Penguins kind of are always Pittsburgh in general, 107 00:05:45,520 --> 00:05:46,080 Speaker 5: just kind. 108 00:05:45,920 --> 00:05:48,440 Speaker 2: Of did I surprise you by coming to you? I 109 00:05:48,440 --> 00:05:52,640 Speaker 2: had absolutely nothing to say. Okay, I'll give you credit 110 00:05:52,680 --> 00:05:54,640 Speaker 2: because usually if I do that to Todd, Todd go. 111 00:05:55,040 --> 00:05:56,200 Speaker 2: I didn't raise my hand. 112 00:06:00,120 --> 00:06:01,560 Speaker 6: For a name. We were there. Who's going to win 113 00:06:01,600 --> 00:06:02,480 Speaker 6: the NTHY eleven? 114 00:06:02,680 --> 00:06:06,919 Speaker 2: The answer was Ben Roethlisberger. Yes, Marvin. 115 00:06:07,080 --> 00:06:08,560 Speaker 6: What about the Saint Louis Cardinals. 116 00:06:09,600 --> 00:06:13,839 Speaker 2: They've been down a few years here, that's a surprise. 117 00:06:14,200 --> 00:06:15,960 Speaker 2: But you're right. You know, normally you think of the 118 00:06:15,960 --> 00:06:19,039 Speaker 2: Cardinals and are like, they're there. The Yankees are there 119 00:06:20,320 --> 00:06:22,560 Speaker 2: all the time, it feels like, but not to the 120 00:06:22,640 --> 00:06:25,400 Speaker 2: level that we expect with the Yankees, where you know, 121 00:06:25,440 --> 00:06:27,920 Speaker 2: they went to the World Series and then we're like, man, 122 00:06:27,960 --> 00:06:30,240 Speaker 2: it's been a while since they've been to the World Series. No, 123 00:06:30,400 --> 00:06:32,200 Speaker 2: and it's been a while since they won a World 124 00:06:32,240 --> 00:06:36,200 Speaker 2: Series in you know, Yankee land. All right, pull question 125 00:06:36,279 --> 00:06:38,479 Speaker 2: today at least first hour, what are we going with Dylan. 126 00:06:39,040 --> 00:06:42,599 Speaker 5: Well, we've got a nice smattering from Todd. I guess 127 00:06:42,640 --> 00:06:45,839 Speaker 5: we'll start off with the Lebron. Uh Lebron. James hasn't 128 00:06:45,839 --> 00:06:49,039 Speaker 5: announced where he's playing next because he honestly hasn't decided yet, 129 00:06:49,360 --> 00:06:52,080 Speaker 5: or he craves attention like in Aaron Rodgers Todd that 130 00:06:52,120 --> 00:06:54,040 Speaker 5: was unnecessary meed. 131 00:06:55,400 --> 00:06:59,720 Speaker 2: Does he crave attention? Yes, yes, but I don't know 132 00:06:59,800 --> 00:07:04,520 Speaker 2: why I were waiting. I had somebody yesterday say, you know, 133 00:07:04,640 --> 00:07:08,159 Speaker 2: don't be surprised if you know it's the beginning of August. 134 00:07:08,240 --> 00:07:10,640 Speaker 2: I go, I would be truly surprised if it was 135 00:07:10,680 --> 00:07:13,840 Speaker 2: at the beginning of August. It just feels like, you know, 136 00:07:13,880 --> 00:07:16,200 Speaker 2: this isn't one of those where Aaron Rodgers didn't want 137 00:07:16,200 --> 00:07:17,680 Speaker 2: to tell you because he didn't want to go to 138 00:07:17,760 --> 00:07:22,120 Speaker 2: like mandatory mini camp or OTAs. That's all. It's like, 139 00:07:22,640 --> 00:07:25,360 Speaker 2: I don't know, and then all of a sudden, it's like, oh, 140 00:07:25,440 --> 00:07:27,600 Speaker 2: those things are done. I'm going to come back to 141 00:07:27,640 --> 00:07:31,320 Speaker 2: the Steelers now with Lebron. I don't know what can happen. 142 00:07:31,320 --> 00:07:34,400 Speaker 2: Free agency is basically over here. All the big ticket 143 00:07:34,440 --> 00:07:37,560 Speaker 2: items are off the board. You're going back to Cleveland, 144 00:07:38,080 --> 00:07:41,119 Speaker 2: You're going to go to Miami. I mean, Golden State 145 00:07:41,120 --> 00:07:45,160 Speaker 2: to me would be fascinating just to see Steph with him. 146 00:07:45,720 --> 00:07:49,120 Speaker 2: But you know, if I'm Lebron and I want to win, 147 00:07:50,240 --> 00:07:53,080 Speaker 2: if if that's the bottom line, like what is your goal? 148 00:07:53,880 --> 00:07:56,720 Speaker 2: He's already made his money. Now you want to go 149 00:07:56,760 --> 00:07:59,840 Speaker 2: out as you know, a champion again one more time. 150 00:08:00,880 --> 00:08:03,200 Speaker 2: Now he's going to get criticized because he's chasing a 151 00:08:03,280 --> 00:08:06,640 Speaker 2: ring again. But you know what, So what you're going 152 00:08:06,680 --> 00:08:09,320 Speaker 2: to go to Philly, You're gonna go to Miami. What 153 00:08:09,440 --> 00:08:12,800 Speaker 2: team gives you the best? All these teams we're talking about, 154 00:08:13,000 --> 00:08:14,600 Speaker 2: Like he's not saying, you know, I'm going to go 155 00:08:14,640 --> 00:08:18,520 Speaker 2: to the Hawks. You know, I'm I'm going to teams 156 00:08:18,560 --> 00:08:20,960 Speaker 2: that are going to be competitive. I want my games 157 00:08:21,000 --> 00:08:24,040 Speaker 2: to be important. I'm going to do a documentary on 158 00:08:24,200 --> 00:08:29,160 Speaker 2: my final season in the NBA. But feels like he's 159 00:08:29,200 --> 00:08:32,440 Speaker 2: known for a little while in my opinion. And you 160 00:08:32,480 --> 00:08:34,760 Speaker 2: know what we found out through all of this, All 161 00:08:34,800 --> 00:08:38,360 Speaker 2: of the NBA insiders they know about as much as 162 00:08:38,400 --> 00:08:43,559 Speaker 2: you do. Because everybody, you know, Ryan Winhorse is always 163 00:08:43,600 --> 00:08:48,600 Speaker 2: talking about this. Hey, we don't know because normally you're 164 00:08:48,600 --> 00:08:51,280 Speaker 2: trying to go Okay, let me, let me hedge my 165 00:08:51,360 --> 00:08:53,720 Speaker 2: bets here, let me tell you what I think is 166 00:08:53,760 --> 00:08:55,960 Speaker 2: going to happen. I only gave you an opinion just 167 00:08:56,000 --> 00:08:58,400 Speaker 2: because I think it makes the most sense to go 168 00:08:58,520 --> 00:09:01,320 Speaker 2: back to Cleveland, and you have a really good team 169 00:09:01,400 --> 00:09:03,680 Speaker 2: in Cleveland, and you want to be in the East 170 00:09:03,720 --> 00:09:06,680 Speaker 2: because you feel like it's a little easier path to 171 00:09:06,800 --> 00:09:10,280 Speaker 2: the NBA Finals. You know, if he stays at gold 172 00:09:10,400 --> 00:09:11,880 Speaker 2: or if he stays in the West and you play 173 00:09:11,880 --> 00:09:14,600 Speaker 2: at Golden State, you still got to go through OKC 174 00:09:15,440 --> 00:09:19,079 Speaker 2: and San Antonio and you've got some young teams. I mean, 175 00:09:19,240 --> 00:09:23,600 Speaker 2: Minnesota is going to be competitive again, Yes, Dylan, Yeah, I. 176 00:09:23,520 --> 00:09:25,880 Speaker 5: Guess a question would be like, if you're a lebron 177 00:09:25,880 --> 00:09:28,680 Speaker 5: and you want to win another title, which team gives 178 00:09:28,679 --> 00:09:31,000 Speaker 5: you a better opportunity. The Cavaliers are the Heat, which 179 00:09:31,080 --> 00:09:32,800 Speaker 5: is funny that those are kind of the two in 180 00:09:32,840 --> 00:09:33,800 Speaker 5: the mix as well well. 181 00:09:33,920 --> 00:09:37,680 Speaker 2: Seventy six ers. Yeah. If I know that Joel Enbiid 182 00:09:37,760 --> 00:09:41,319 Speaker 2: could give me twenty five quality minutes every night, and 183 00:09:41,360 --> 00:09:42,920 Speaker 2: it's not going to be every night. He's not going 184 00:09:42,960 --> 00:09:45,040 Speaker 2: to be back to back, but Maxi's one of my 185 00:09:45,080 --> 00:09:50,160 Speaker 2: favorite players. Edgecumbe and now you've got Jalen Brown I 186 00:09:50,200 --> 00:09:58,120 Speaker 2: got sneaky great. It really is, so I wouldn't rule 187 00:09:58,160 --> 00:10:00,600 Speaker 2: out Philadelphia. But the other places is that, you know, 188 00:10:00,679 --> 00:10:03,960 Speaker 2: Cleveland and Miami's been to and that might be playing 189 00:10:03,960 --> 00:10:07,440 Speaker 2: a larger role. Cleveland is home, go back there one 190 00:10:07,480 --> 00:10:11,400 Speaker 2: more season. That feels storybook like, Yes, PAULI. 191 00:10:11,280 --> 00:10:14,760 Speaker 7: I have Lebron next team odds as of this morning. Okay, 192 00:10:14,960 --> 00:10:18,800 Speaker 7: Cavaliers are at thirty eight percent, but they're down two 193 00:10:18,840 --> 00:10:23,440 Speaker 7: percent over the past week. Reactionary Golden State's at thirty percent, 194 00:10:23,840 --> 00:10:27,160 Speaker 7: the Miami Heat your Heat dan are up two percent 195 00:10:27,320 --> 00:10:30,199 Speaker 7: to fifteen percent chance, and then the Philadelpai seventy six 196 00:10:30,320 --> 00:10:31,600 Speaker 7: ers fifteen percent. 197 00:10:31,840 --> 00:10:38,520 Speaker 2: Okay, it feels like it's Cleveland in Miami, but you know, 198 00:10:38,600 --> 00:10:41,680 Speaker 2: maybe the fascination of playing a season with Steph Curry. 199 00:10:42,080 --> 00:10:46,560 Speaker 2: It's just, you know, it's not twenty seventeen, and I 200 00:10:46,600 --> 00:10:48,959 Speaker 2: know Lebron has spent a lot of time with Draymond Green. 201 00:10:49,240 --> 00:10:53,080 Speaker 2: I don't know how that factor's in, but you know 202 00:10:55,520 --> 00:10:57,439 Speaker 2: it'd be a fun watch. I don't know if they 203 00:10:57,559 --> 00:11:01,840 Speaker 2: would the they're they'd be the third favorite probably in 204 00:11:01,880 --> 00:11:04,600 Speaker 2: the West. I'm guessing, yes, Marvin, do. 205 00:11:04,600 --> 00:11:06,719 Speaker 4: You think it's gonna like Gary Payton and Karmelone when 206 00:11:06,720 --> 00:11:07,840 Speaker 4: they were on the Lakers. 207 00:11:09,640 --> 00:11:11,839 Speaker 2: No, Lebron is still playing at a very high level. 208 00:11:12,160 --> 00:11:15,440 Speaker 2: Like the numbers are really impressive. But that's didn't they 209 00:11:15,440 --> 00:11:17,640 Speaker 2: have Steve Nash in there with the Lakers. 210 00:11:17,320 --> 00:11:19,079 Speaker 6: As well later on? 211 00:11:19,160 --> 00:11:22,320 Speaker 2: Yes, yeah, that one. It's like, let's just bring in 212 00:11:22,360 --> 00:11:24,719 Speaker 2: a bunch of celebrities here and see if we can 213 00:11:24,840 --> 00:11:25,680 Speaker 2: entertain people. 214 00:11:26,040 --> 00:11:28,319 Speaker 7: Yes, Paul going back to the commissioner and talking about 215 00:11:28,320 --> 00:11:30,920 Speaker 7: making the schedule and waiting on Lebron. If I'm Lebron, 216 00:11:30,960 --> 00:11:33,800 Speaker 7: I would wait till the schedule is out, then pick 217 00:11:33,840 --> 00:11:36,040 Speaker 7: my team and pick a team that doesn't play on 218 00:11:36,160 --> 00:11:38,720 Speaker 7: Christmas Day. Finally he gets Christmas off. 219 00:11:39,360 --> 00:11:41,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, but his kids are too old now, like Christmas 220 00:11:41,920 --> 00:11:46,120 Speaker 2: doesn't mean anything, jam No, No, all of his kids 221 00:11:46,160 --> 00:11:48,559 Speaker 2: are out of the house, aren't they Maybe has a 222 00:11:48,640 --> 00:11:53,440 Speaker 2: daughter in high school, but yeah, it's I'm sure Christmas 223 00:11:53,440 --> 00:11:55,280 Speaker 2: at home and nobody's going to be there, and and 224 00:11:55,280 --> 00:11:56,480 Speaker 2: his wife opening gifts. 225 00:11:57,040 --> 00:11:59,360 Speaker 5: Yes, Dylan, you don't think Bron he still believes in 226 00:11:59,400 --> 00:12:00,000 Speaker 5: Santa Claus. 227 00:12:02,520 --> 00:12:09,360 Speaker 2: I do. Who doesn't, Dylan? Okay, that's the right answer here. 228 00:12:10,000 --> 00:12:12,199 Speaker 2: Somebody could be car pooling right now. 229 00:12:12,920 --> 00:12:15,199 Speaker 6: Yeah, I like I said I did too. 230 00:12:15,360 --> 00:12:19,880 Speaker 7: Okay, alright, yes, my one of my favorite Will Farrell 231 00:12:19,960 --> 00:12:21,679 Speaker 7: lines of all time from Health Santa. 232 00:12:21,880 --> 00:12:26,880 Speaker 2: I know him, I know him all right. So we 233 00:12:26,960 --> 00:12:29,640 Speaker 2: got a busy, busy schedule on this meet Friday. We 234 00:12:29,720 --> 00:12:33,079 Speaker 2: got Will Farrell later, Darius Rucker will stop by. I 235 00:12:33,120 --> 00:12:35,080 Speaker 2: don't know if he brought his guitar, but I have 236 00:12:35,160 --> 00:12:37,520 Speaker 2: some guitars behind me. I just don't know if they're 237 00:12:37,720 --> 00:12:40,120 Speaker 2: I don't know how to tune a guitar, but uh, 238 00:12:40,840 --> 00:12:43,600 Speaker 2: we'll figure something out here. Maybe he just sings occa. 239 00:12:43,640 --> 00:12:48,600 Speaker 2: But maybe Todd and Darius reuniting, Sory be looking forward 240 00:12:48,640 --> 00:12:52,839 Speaker 2: to that, if we did, if we took a vote. Now, 241 00:12:52,840 --> 00:12:57,520 Speaker 2: once again, we're looking for content. I'm not looking for quality. Todd, 242 00:12:57,520 --> 00:13:03,240 Speaker 2: would you sing that's a great line? Thank you, Todd. 243 00:13:03,240 --> 00:13:05,079 Speaker 2: Would you sing another song with Darius? 244 00:13:05,280 --> 00:13:06,800 Speaker 3: I would if it's a song I'm familiar with, or 245 00:13:06,800 --> 00:13:07,920 Speaker 3: if I have the words in front of me, just 246 00:13:07,920 --> 00:13:09,959 Speaker 3: so I don't totally embarrass myself because it's bad enough 247 00:13:09,960 --> 00:13:11,079 Speaker 3: if I don't sing well, I don't. 248 00:13:11,320 --> 00:13:12,880 Speaker 2: It was just a yes or no, Yeah, I have 249 00:13:12,920 --> 00:13:21,200 Speaker 2: fun with that, thank you, Dylan. Yeah, Marvin, yes, Paul, No, 250 00:13:22,480 --> 00:13:23,559 Speaker 2: I needed wanting. 251 00:13:24,040 --> 00:13:24,839 Speaker 6: Can I vote twice? 252 00:13:25,559 --> 00:13:28,400 Speaker 7: I think Todd got his great moment with Darius, an 253 00:13:28,600 --> 00:13:32,160 Speaker 7: unbelievable moment on stage. It was fantastic. I think Darius 254 00:13:32,200 --> 00:13:34,439 Speaker 7: and his crew or whatever they should do their thing. 255 00:13:35,080 --> 00:13:40,480 Speaker 2: Oh, I think it's hysterious. Oh it's just there. Yes, might, 256 00:13:40,480 --> 00:13:58,439 Speaker 2: I'll give it some thought. I got an hour Todd. 257 00:13:59,200 --> 00:14:05,520 Speaker 2: You you sound injured. You step your stepped on a 258 00:14:05,559 --> 00:14:09,720 Speaker 2: cat and you try to sing, and those are songs 259 00:14:09,800 --> 00:14:11,439 Speaker 2: you know you love, Haul and O. 260 00:14:11,640 --> 00:14:12,840 Speaker 6: No, it sounded like I was in the middle of, 261 00:14:12,880 --> 00:14:14,480 Speaker 6: you know, getting surgery. They didn't put me out. 262 00:14:15,679 --> 00:14:20,440 Speaker 2: Has that changed anybody's vote? Hearing that? Dylan? I'm going 263 00:14:20,560 --> 00:14:25,600 Speaker 2: double yes? Now Wow, anything you'd like to add, Dylan. 264 00:14:26,600 --> 00:14:28,760 Speaker 5: Do you know what Todd is actually a better singer 265 00:14:28,800 --> 00:14:29,080 Speaker 5: than that. 266 00:14:30,560 --> 00:14:30,800 Speaker 6: Would? 267 00:14:31,320 --> 00:14:34,840 Speaker 2: Yeah? I agree, I agree. I agree. It's a bad 268 00:14:34,960 --> 00:14:36,160 Speaker 2: it was not his best showing. 269 00:14:36,360 --> 00:14:38,280 Speaker 6: Todd, you, I believe you have more in you more. 270 00:14:38,400 --> 00:14:38,600 Speaker 1: Yeah. 271 00:14:38,800 --> 00:14:41,400 Speaker 6: I spoke to someone that runs the amphitheater, the acoustics. 272 00:14:41,920 --> 00:14:45,000 Speaker 2: No, you don't even try it, don't even set up 273 00:14:45,280 --> 00:14:49,040 Speaker 2: not to even try it. It's that's funny because Darius sounded. 274 00:14:48,800 --> 00:14:52,800 Speaker 6: Great, defeats my argument pretty much. 275 00:14:52,880 --> 00:14:55,120 Speaker 2: How about we take a break. All right, we'll come back. 276 00:14:55,280 --> 00:14:57,840 Speaker 2: We'll get a poll question. Everybody's in a good mood. 277 00:14:58,200 --> 00:15:01,600 Speaker 2: It's Friday, Fritzy, it's a meat Friday as well. 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And I would think 302 00:16:12,400 --> 00:16:15,280 Speaker 2: it would be Adam Silver and this was the Sports 303 00:16:15,400 --> 00:16:21,400 Speaker 2: Business Journal article that came out two days ago. But yeah, 304 00:16:21,440 --> 00:16:24,920 Speaker 2: the commissioner talking about that, and you know, what is 305 00:16:24,960 --> 00:16:27,760 Speaker 2: the real issue here? Like, that's what we want to know. 306 00:16:27,920 --> 00:16:30,760 Speaker 2: What is the real issue and can we get somebody 307 00:16:30,800 --> 00:16:34,720 Speaker 2: to answer the real issues here? That's where if I'm 308 00:16:34,720 --> 00:16:38,200 Speaker 2: the commissioner of the NBA, I say to the commissioner 309 00:16:38,240 --> 00:16:42,240 Speaker 2: of the WNBA, we need to have you here doing 310 00:16:42,280 --> 00:16:45,920 Speaker 2: a press conference. We need to have some transparency here. 311 00:16:46,080 --> 00:16:49,240 Speaker 2: We need to have not full disclosure, but let us 312 00:16:49,360 --> 00:16:53,400 Speaker 2: understand because now you get players and former players saying 313 00:16:53,920 --> 00:16:59,320 Speaker 2: Caitlin Clark is refereed differently and you're allowed to be 314 00:16:59,400 --> 00:17:04,320 Speaker 2: more physical with her. Okay, that's their view. They're playing 315 00:17:04,400 --> 00:17:07,600 Speaker 2: the game or they're covering the game. Okay, now we 316 00:17:07,680 --> 00:17:10,560 Speaker 2: have an issue. Now we need to talk about this. 317 00:17:11,000 --> 00:17:14,480 Speaker 2: I don't think I've ever heard anybody say Steph Curry 318 00:17:14,520 --> 00:17:18,760 Speaker 2: is being officiated different than anybody else, and he's very similar. 319 00:17:18,880 --> 00:17:23,000 Speaker 2: She's very similar in the styles that they play. But 320 00:17:23,119 --> 00:17:27,280 Speaker 2: why would Caitlin Clark be officiated differently? Maybe allowing you 321 00:17:27,920 --> 00:17:30,280 Speaker 2: to get up a little bit closer on her, be 322 00:17:30,359 --> 00:17:35,719 Speaker 2: more physical than Steph Curry anybody else that you say, Well, 323 00:17:35,760 --> 00:17:41,480 Speaker 2: they're officiated differently. Now. Back in the day, Bird Michael, 324 00:17:41,920 --> 00:17:45,440 Speaker 2: I felt they were officiated differently. You were getting calls. 325 00:17:45,720 --> 00:17:48,240 Speaker 2: I don't think anybody is watching Caitlin Clark going. Man, 326 00:17:48,359 --> 00:17:50,800 Speaker 2: she gets all the calls now. She complains a lot 327 00:17:50,960 --> 00:17:53,800 Speaker 2: about calls or non calls, and even the one, the 328 00:17:53,880 --> 00:17:56,560 Speaker 2: latest one where she gets knocked to the ground, I 329 00:17:56,600 --> 00:18:02,800 Speaker 2: didn't see a knee go into her. I in fairness 330 00:18:02,800 --> 00:18:06,440 Speaker 2: to everybody involved in this, it felt like she initiated 331 00:18:06,520 --> 00:18:11,280 Speaker 2: contact and then fell. But if it's a fifty to 332 00:18:11,359 --> 00:18:15,960 Speaker 2: fifty call or sixty forty I'm play on here, that 333 00:18:16,080 --> 00:18:20,320 Speaker 2: wasn't egregious. And her reaction was, oh my god, look 334 00:18:20,359 --> 00:18:23,560 Speaker 2: at what she did? She need me? I don't know 335 00:18:23,600 --> 00:18:27,159 Speaker 2: if it happened with the previous player guarding her, but 336 00:18:27,440 --> 00:18:30,280 Speaker 2: not on the layup contact. I did not see that. 337 00:18:30,960 --> 00:18:34,000 Speaker 2: Now do I think she's officiated differently? Yes, I do. 338 00:18:35,400 --> 00:18:40,440 Speaker 2: And that's unfortunate because that's what I want to know. Now, 339 00:18:40,520 --> 00:18:45,520 Speaker 2: what are you doing? The WNBA and Kathy Engelbert needs 340 00:18:45,560 --> 00:18:47,359 Speaker 2: to talk to somebody. She doesn't want to talk to me. 341 00:18:47,520 --> 00:18:49,919 Speaker 2: Talk to somebody so we can at least get a 342 00:18:49,960 --> 00:18:53,679 Speaker 2: face attached to this that can give us what's the 343 00:18:53,680 --> 00:18:58,119 Speaker 2: reasoning here? What's the logic here? Because something's there. I 344 00:18:58,119 --> 00:19:00,400 Speaker 2: don't think anybody can sit here and go there that's 345 00:19:01,080 --> 00:19:05,639 Speaker 2: nothing to see here. Why did the commissioner, according to 346 00:19:05,720 --> 00:19:10,640 Speaker 2: Sports Business Journal, get involved because he knew the optics 347 00:19:10,640 --> 00:19:13,919 Speaker 2: here in the moment. Maybe you didn't see it, and 348 00:19:13,960 --> 00:19:18,320 Speaker 2: that's fair to the official. Adam Silver has experience with this, 349 00:19:19,440 --> 00:19:23,359 Speaker 2: and it goes back to what I said. Commissioners know 350 00:19:23,760 --> 00:19:26,200 Speaker 2: what the topics are going to be. When Adam Silver 351 00:19:26,320 --> 00:19:30,439 Speaker 2: comes on, he knows I'm going to ask about the 352 00:19:30,480 --> 00:19:36,800 Speaker 2: lottery or tanking flopping expansion. He knows that you're prepared. 353 00:19:37,080 --> 00:19:40,240 Speaker 2: You have a team that prepares you. When Rob Manfred 354 00:19:40,400 --> 00:19:44,560 Speaker 2: Baseball Commissioner, comes on, we're going to talk about automated 355 00:19:44,560 --> 00:19:48,480 Speaker 2: balls and strikes. We may talk about the baseball's being 356 00:19:48,560 --> 00:19:51,480 Speaker 2: juiced for home run derby. As Price Harper said, like 357 00:19:51,520 --> 00:19:54,320 Speaker 2: he you know this is happening. We talked about Pete 358 00:19:54,400 --> 00:20:00,000 Speaker 2: Rose many many times. These are uncomfortable topics. 359 00:20:00,000 --> 00:20:01,240 Speaker 6: That's why you're the commissioner. 360 00:20:02,080 --> 00:20:05,800 Speaker 2: This is your job. Like, I'm not asking Kathy to 361 00:20:05,840 --> 00:20:09,240 Speaker 2: do anything special other than do your job. That's all. 362 00:20:09,720 --> 00:20:11,719 Speaker 2: And if you don't want to come on this program, 363 00:20:12,320 --> 00:20:15,520 Speaker 2: then go on somebody else's program. They may give you 364 00:20:15,600 --> 00:20:19,960 Speaker 2: softball questions. Okay, yes, Martin. 365 00:20:20,600 --> 00:20:22,520 Speaker 6: The w NB All Star Game is next week. 366 00:20:22,600 --> 00:20:22,920 Speaker 2: I know. 367 00:20:23,040 --> 00:20:25,880 Speaker 4: Now, if you're Adam Silver, what do you do, Like, 368 00:20:26,280 --> 00:20:29,080 Speaker 4: what are you saying to Kathy Engelberg? Do you supply 369 00:20:29,119 --> 00:20:34,560 Speaker 4: her with a PR team? Prepper, he has a PR team, Well, 370 00:20:34,600 --> 00:20:36,119 Speaker 4: a better PR team, the PR. 371 00:20:35,960 --> 00:20:38,800 Speaker 2: Team that said to us that they advised her not 372 00:20:38,880 --> 00:20:39,720 Speaker 2: to do the interview. 373 00:20:39,720 --> 00:20:42,440 Speaker 6: How about we give you the NBA's PR team. 374 00:20:42,680 --> 00:20:45,520 Speaker 2: Well, I would say they're involved in this too. But 375 00:20:47,040 --> 00:20:49,400 Speaker 2: and maybe if she would have said to me, look, 376 00:20:49,640 --> 00:20:51,320 Speaker 2: I'm going to have a press conference at the All 377 00:20:51,359 --> 00:20:55,720 Speaker 2: Star Game. I'm going to address everything there. I'm just here, 378 00:20:55,920 --> 00:21:00,800 Speaker 2: you know, vacation playing golf in Tahoe. Okay, that's fine, 379 00:21:01,040 --> 00:21:05,719 Speaker 2: but you're gonna get the same questions. You're gonna get 380 00:21:05,760 --> 00:21:09,399 Speaker 2: the same questions at the All Star break. But you 381 00:21:09,600 --> 00:21:15,680 Speaker 2: know what those questions are. There's no gotcha here, it's 382 00:21:16,440 --> 00:21:20,600 Speaker 2: help us understand this. What a what are you looking at? 383 00:21:20,640 --> 00:21:24,240 Speaker 2: What bothers you about this? What problems are you trying 384 00:21:24,280 --> 00:21:28,600 Speaker 2: to solve with this? How do you maximize the superstar? 385 00:21:28,840 --> 00:21:33,720 Speaker 2: Like you get one shot at this, like the PGA 386 00:21:33,840 --> 00:21:37,600 Speaker 2: Tour had one shot with Tiger Woods, and I think 387 00:21:37,600 --> 00:21:42,280 Speaker 2: by all accounts it worked out really well. Take advantage 388 00:21:42,320 --> 00:21:48,000 Speaker 2: of this. I'm not saying give her carte blanche. Let 389 00:21:48,040 --> 00:21:52,080 Speaker 2: Caitlin Clark do whatever she wants, but there has to 390 00:21:52,119 --> 00:21:57,880 Speaker 2: be a little bit of a happy medium here. Yes, Mormon, do. 391 00:21:57,840 --> 00:22:00,800 Speaker 4: You think Kaitlyn Clark's behavior or your planning is turning 392 00:22:00,840 --> 00:22:01,440 Speaker 4: people off? 393 00:22:02,480 --> 00:22:06,760 Speaker 2: I think it does with players and former players. I 394 00:22:06,800 --> 00:22:12,760 Speaker 2: think that that is true. I've spoken to a Hall 395 00:22:12,800 --> 00:22:17,800 Speaker 2: of Famer numerous times about this, Like you can sell 396 00:22:19,040 --> 00:22:22,160 Speaker 2: you know, we're at the point now where we don't 397 00:22:22,200 --> 00:22:25,000 Speaker 2: believe anything anybody's doing because it feels like you're trying 398 00:22:25,040 --> 00:22:27,520 Speaker 2: to sell it. You know, with soccer all the time, 399 00:22:27,840 --> 00:22:31,399 Speaker 2: like they're trying to sell something. Basketball, you're trying to 400 00:22:31,480 --> 00:22:34,760 Speaker 2: sell something all the time. And I think that's kind 401 00:22:34,800 --> 00:22:36,960 Speaker 2: of like, oh the sky is falling, sky is falling, 402 00:22:36,960 --> 00:22:39,600 Speaker 2: and be like, ah, no, nobody touched you. Get up. 403 00:22:39,920 --> 00:22:42,840 Speaker 2: So I think former players current players, And this is 404 00:22:42,880 --> 00:22:45,600 Speaker 2: a former player who said you've got to be careful 405 00:22:45,600 --> 00:22:49,640 Speaker 2: in how much you sell because that official doesn't want 406 00:22:49,640 --> 00:22:54,280 Speaker 2: to be embarrassed. And I think you can see these 407 00:22:54,320 --> 00:22:58,080 Speaker 2: officials are like, no, there's no foul called. But this 408 00:22:58,400 --> 00:23:01,280 Speaker 2: Hall of Fame player did say to me, hey, she 409 00:23:01,520 --> 00:23:05,560 Speaker 2: is getting treated differently. They are physical with her, and 410 00:23:05,600 --> 00:23:11,320 Speaker 2: why wouldn't you be because you can be, but you 411 00:23:11,359 --> 00:23:13,840 Speaker 2: know that's the game plan on her. Rough her up, 412 00:23:14,640 --> 00:23:19,440 Speaker 2: bang her around, be physical with her frustrator, and that's 413 00:23:19,480 --> 00:23:22,760 Speaker 2: what's happening right now. So the optics are really bad. 414 00:23:23,280 --> 00:23:26,880 Speaker 2: I think that you have a superstar. Just make sure 415 00:23:26,920 --> 00:23:29,240 Speaker 2: that she's treated fairly. Don't go out of your way 416 00:23:29,359 --> 00:23:31,360 Speaker 2: to go the other way with this because you want 417 00:23:31,400 --> 00:23:34,320 Speaker 2: to play Kate the rest of the NBA. She may 418 00:23:34,359 --> 00:23:38,359 Speaker 2: not be liked by other players for whatever reasons. You 419 00:23:38,400 --> 00:23:41,280 Speaker 2: still have to do your job as commissioner to protect 420 00:23:41,320 --> 00:23:46,960 Speaker 2: the game because Paige Beckers is she treated differently? Now. 421 00:23:47,440 --> 00:23:51,439 Speaker 2: Paige Beckers is a spectacular player, but I don't know 422 00:23:51,440 --> 00:23:54,800 Speaker 2: if anybody's saying, is she treated differently. Are you allowed 423 00:23:54,840 --> 00:23:58,320 Speaker 2: to be physical? Well, Page isn't a lightning rod like 424 00:23:58,400 --> 00:24:05,320 Speaker 2: Caitlin Clarks. That's the difference Paige Beckers is. You know, 425 00:24:06,040 --> 00:24:09,199 Speaker 2: she's like second in MVP odds right now. She's a 426 00:24:09,280 --> 00:24:12,720 Speaker 2: great player, but she doesn't play the way Caitlin does. 427 00:24:13,280 --> 00:24:16,920 Speaker 2: There's not that Oh my gosh, it's just Page Becker 428 00:24:17,000 --> 00:24:18,480 Speaker 2: is going to beat you in a variety of ways. 429 00:24:20,080 --> 00:24:23,920 Speaker 2: But with Caitlyn Clark, she's a lightning run and right 430 00:24:23,960 --> 00:24:28,840 Speaker 2: now she's kind of a political football here being kicked around. 431 00:24:29,760 --> 00:24:32,800 Speaker 2: That's not good for the league. And I hope that 432 00:24:32,880 --> 00:24:35,399 Speaker 2: it's addressed at the All Star Game so we can 433 00:24:35,440 --> 00:24:39,639 Speaker 2: at least get some answers with this, But to no 434 00:24:39,840 --> 00:24:43,200 Speaker 2: show or the commissioner of the NBA saying I don't 435 00:24:43,200 --> 00:24:46,080 Speaker 2: want to talk about it. Oh, if you're not involved 436 00:24:46,080 --> 00:24:50,480 Speaker 2: in the disciplinary action, then Adam Silver would have said no, 437 00:24:51,640 --> 00:24:55,120 Speaker 2: but he said it's not fair to them. Well, what's 438 00:24:55,160 --> 00:24:59,000 Speaker 2: not fair for you to say that you intervened? I 439 00:24:59,080 --> 00:25:03,080 Speaker 2: get it, smart answer, but it's not an answer that 440 00:25:03,240 --> 00:25:06,119 Speaker 2: I would that I would accept and move on because 441 00:25:06,160 --> 00:25:08,720 Speaker 2: I would have said to him, well, wait a minute, 442 00:25:09,480 --> 00:25:11,359 Speaker 2: if you didn't get involved. The answer would have been no, 443 00:25:12,480 --> 00:25:17,600 Speaker 2: that's it. And if it's not no, then it's yes, 444 00:25:18,440 --> 00:25:22,960 Speaker 2: and without saying yes, ah, yes, Paul. 445 00:25:23,280 --> 00:25:25,840 Speaker 7: The Clark coverage has been so agenda based the past 446 00:25:25,920 --> 00:25:28,280 Speaker 7: couple of years. No matter what happens, like that foul 447 00:25:28,320 --> 00:25:30,600 Speaker 7: Marvin mentioned the other day, you talked about a foul 448 00:25:30,600 --> 00:25:33,200 Speaker 7: like that happens twenty times a game in twenty different teams, 449 00:25:33,280 --> 00:25:36,119 Speaker 7: but it gets no coverage, doesn't Lead Sports Center or Fox, 450 00:25:36,640 --> 00:25:38,639 Speaker 7: and you use that if you want to pick a 451 00:25:38,760 --> 00:25:40,879 Speaker 7: side on Clark that oh, look at that foul they 452 00:25:40,920 --> 00:25:43,479 Speaker 7: didn't call it, or look, she's a cry baby. So 453 00:25:43,680 --> 00:25:47,680 Speaker 7: it reinforces the extreme versions of her or looks of her, 454 00:25:47,920 --> 00:25:51,480 Speaker 7: and it just becomes this cycle of not proper coverage 455 00:25:51,520 --> 00:25:54,440 Speaker 7: because nobody, I'm not gonna say a lot of people 456 00:25:54,440 --> 00:25:56,640 Speaker 7: who talk about the game the other night probably didn't 457 00:25:56,640 --> 00:25:58,080 Speaker 7: watch the game in any level of context. 458 00:25:58,200 --> 00:26:02,159 Speaker 2: Yeah, you might watch a highlight thing. I would have 459 00:26:02,200 --> 00:26:04,600 Speaker 2: teeter her up the way she acted towards the official. 460 00:26:06,400 --> 00:26:09,520 Speaker 2: I don't have any agenda with this. I'm just watching basketball. 461 00:26:11,040 --> 00:26:13,160 Speaker 2: And if it's a foul, it's a foul. If you're 462 00:26:13,160 --> 00:26:15,320 Speaker 2: crowding her landing area when she's going up for a 463 00:26:15,359 --> 00:26:18,440 Speaker 2: jump shot. I mean, that's a cardinal sin. When you 464 00:26:18,480 --> 00:26:20,480 Speaker 2: play defense and you do that to a jump shooter. 465 00:26:21,200 --> 00:26:25,800 Speaker 2: Can't allow it? Does she sell? Yes, she does, But 466 00:26:25,840 --> 00:26:30,640 Speaker 2: she's so used to college where nobody, you know, they 467 00:26:30,640 --> 00:26:33,600 Speaker 2: didn't have the athletes, you know, the number of athletes 468 00:26:33,800 --> 00:26:37,760 Speaker 2: to be able to contain her. Watch a WNBA game 469 00:26:38,600 --> 00:26:41,520 Speaker 2: and watch how many great athletes are out there. And 470 00:26:41,560 --> 00:26:46,040 Speaker 2: these are grown women who are physical and they're going 471 00:26:46,160 --> 00:26:50,720 Speaker 2: to be This isn't on a Tuesday night you're facing 472 00:26:50,800 --> 00:26:58,160 Speaker 2: Rutgers Like, I'm sorry, Rutgers. Okay, but these are great players. 473 00:26:59,000 --> 00:27:04,720 Speaker 2: Every team like San Francisco they're what are they the Valkyries. 474 00:27:05,440 --> 00:27:10,400 Speaker 2: They play unbelievable defense. I mean they always have your 475 00:27:10,480 --> 00:27:14,320 Speaker 2: Valkyries in their first year. Yeah, they play great defense. 476 00:27:15,000 --> 00:27:18,320 Speaker 2: Now you might need to watch a game to understand that, 477 00:27:18,960 --> 00:27:22,119 Speaker 2: but I do. I hope that we get some transparency 478 00:27:22,160 --> 00:27:29,159 Speaker 2: here coming up. Really for Kathy Engelbert. Yeah, you you 479 00:27:29,200 --> 00:27:31,560 Speaker 2: were a commissioner. Act like a commissioner. This is your 480 00:27:31,600 --> 00:27:36,080 Speaker 2: moment to act like a commissioner. Yes, Martin, who. 481 00:27:35,880 --> 00:27:39,000 Speaker 4: Are we blaming for this incredible fumble of maybe the 482 00:27:39,040 --> 00:27:43,199 Speaker 4: biggest sport not maybe the biggest sports phenomenon, excuse me, 483 00:27:43,400 --> 00:27:46,560 Speaker 4: the biggest phenomenon in the history of women's basketball. Like, 484 00:27:46,560 --> 00:27:53,440 Speaker 4: who are we blaming for this, fellow players, the commissioner, Nike, Why. 485 00:27:53,440 --> 00:27:55,760 Speaker 2: Not gonna blame Nike. I'll blame Nike for putting that 486 00:27:55,840 --> 00:27:57,720 Speaker 2: shoe out whatever three years later. 487 00:27:58,080 --> 00:27:59,040 Speaker 6: But Nike didn't help. 488 00:27:59,640 --> 00:28:03,240 Speaker 2: Yeah, well, they gave her a She's making a lot 489 00:28:03,280 --> 00:28:06,400 Speaker 2: of money, and I think that she hadn't won anything 490 00:28:06,920 --> 00:28:09,800 Speaker 2: she came in, and I think that bothered some people. 491 00:28:10,480 --> 00:28:13,199 Speaker 2: And you could say, oh, you know, the old guard 492 00:28:13,240 --> 00:28:15,560 Speaker 2: and they built the league, and I get hold of that. 493 00:28:17,240 --> 00:28:19,960 Speaker 2: But it's not like Jack Nicholas went out of his 494 00:28:20,000 --> 00:28:24,199 Speaker 2: way to be critical of Tiger Woods or Arnold Palmer 495 00:28:24,240 --> 00:28:26,480 Speaker 2: went out of his way. They built the PGA Tour. 496 00:28:29,000 --> 00:28:32,520 Speaker 2: They had to be thrilled that you had something somebody 497 00:28:32,760 --> 00:28:37,199 Speaker 2: that everybody wanted to watch. They didn't go, you know, 498 00:28:37,240 --> 00:28:40,760 Speaker 2: he flash in the pan or whatever. Oh they're giving 499 00:28:40,800 --> 00:28:44,680 Speaker 2: special treatment. No, do it for the good of the game, 500 00:28:44,760 --> 00:28:47,600 Speaker 2: the growth of the game. I think we're going to 501 00:28:47,640 --> 00:28:50,120 Speaker 2: look back ten years from now and say, man, they 502 00:28:50,120 --> 00:28:54,080 Speaker 2: missed an opportunity here. And Caitlin Clark is the face 503 00:28:54,080 --> 00:28:59,400 Speaker 2: of the league. She's changed everything Now, she's not the 504 00:28:59,440 --> 00:29:03,640 Speaker 2: best player. Paige Becker's to me is a better player. 505 00:29:05,560 --> 00:29:09,160 Speaker 2: But that's different than what you know you're trying to 506 00:29:10,560 --> 00:29:13,040 Speaker 2: I'm not putting her at the head of the line here. 507 00:29:13,920 --> 00:29:18,280 Speaker 2: I think she's a fascinating player to watch, but she's 508 00:29:18,320 --> 00:29:21,680 Speaker 2: not the best player. But that's where I think these 509 00:29:21,720 --> 00:29:25,440 Speaker 2: players have a problem with her, that she is getting, 510 00:29:25,600 --> 00:29:30,440 Speaker 2: you know, special treatment by the media. What about us? 511 00:29:30,960 --> 00:29:33,920 Speaker 2: Asia Wilson's the best player in the game. What is 512 00:29:33,920 --> 00:29:39,720 Speaker 2: she a four time MVP? She not polarizing. Asia Wilson 513 00:29:39,880 --> 00:29:45,000 Speaker 2: just is great. But that's not always good enough. You 514 00:29:45,040 --> 00:29:48,239 Speaker 2: can be great, but you're like, okay, but is it 515 00:29:48,280 --> 00:29:54,600 Speaker 2: a tune in factor? Oh not necessarily. Yeah, I'm Marvin. 516 00:29:55,080 --> 00:29:57,880 Speaker 4: And the crazy thing is everybody has an agenda when 517 00:29:57,880 --> 00:30:00,440 Speaker 4: it's attached to Keitlin Clark in some way shape m 518 00:30:00,880 --> 00:30:03,920 Speaker 4: But the funny thing is she became a phenomenon by 519 00:30:03,920 --> 00:30:07,280 Speaker 4: shooting the ball with regularity from thirty feet. It wasn't 520 00:30:07,480 --> 00:30:11,960 Speaker 4: she's white, she's straight, she's whatever. She's just balling like 521 00:30:12,080 --> 00:30:14,760 Speaker 4: Steph Curry. That's what made her the phenomenon. So it 522 00:30:14,800 --> 00:30:17,320 Speaker 4: wasn't some type of agenda. She was just balling in 523 00:30:17,360 --> 00:30:18,960 Speaker 4: a way that no one's ever seen before in the 524 00:30:18,960 --> 00:30:19,600 Speaker 4: women's level. 525 00:30:20,320 --> 00:30:22,520 Speaker 2: I mean there, once again, there's a lot of players 526 00:30:22,560 --> 00:30:26,080 Speaker 2: who were better than her, but nobody is more fascinating 527 00:30:26,120 --> 00:30:30,760 Speaker 2: than her because of the way she plays, and you know, 528 00:30:30,960 --> 00:30:33,040 Speaker 2: the part of her game that gets overlooked. She's an 529 00:30:33,120 --> 00:30:38,360 Speaker 2: unbelievable passer, like she's on par with any player playing 530 00:30:38,400 --> 00:30:43,280 Speaker 2: basketball finding the open man. But she's not the best player, 531 00:30:43,720 --> 00:30:47,520 Speaker 2: but she is the most publicized. She is the most 532 00:30:47,560 --> 00:30:50,360 Speaker 2: fascinating the mussy TV. I mean, the ratings show this. 533 00:30:51,200 --> 00:30:53,520 Speaker 2: People are tuning in. They want to see her shooting 534 00:30:53,560 --> 00:30:58,280 Speaker 2: logo threes, just the same way with Steph Curry. There 535 00:30:58,360 --> 00:31:00,280 Speaker 2: was a fact he wasn't the best player in the game, 536 00:31:01,280 --> 00:31:04,760 Speaker 2: but to me, he was the most exciting. There was 537 00:31:04,800 --> 00:31:08,920 Speaker 2: a tune in factor for Steph Curry, and that's the 538 00:31:08,960 --> 00:31:12,920 Speaker 2: way it was with Caitlyn. I know, well, hey, there 539 00:31:12,920 --> 00:31:15,000 Speaker 2: are three and zero without her in the lineup. Yeah, 540 00:31:15,160 --> 00:31:18,880 Speaker 2: once again, you can use all the anilet whatever you want. 541 00:31:19,000 --> 00:31:23,120 Speaker 2: It's still she is the most fascinating person in the 542 00:31:23,200 --> 00:31:29,080 Speaker 2: WNBA because it feels like this is an agenda, and 543 00:31:29,120 --> 00:31:32,680 Speaker 2: there are numerous agendas in play right now, and that's 544 00:31:32,760 --> 00:31:37,240 Speaker 2: the difficult part for me because you have this opportunity 545 00:31:37,400 --> 00:31:41,120 Speaker 2: for growth, You have this opportunity for the next generation, 546 00:31:41,840 --> 00:31:45,640 Speaker 2: because Caitlin Clark is going to inspire a lot of 547 00:31:45,840 --> 00:31:50,760 Speaker 2: women to play this way, just like Steph Curry. Take 548 00:31:50,800 --> 00:31:54,640 Speaker 2: advantage of it. Got an opportunity, don't let it pass. 549 00:31:55,000 --> 00:31:57,920 Speaker 1: Fox Sports Radio has the best sports talk lineup in 550 00:31:57,960 --> 00:32:01,320 Speaker 1: the nation. Catch all of our shows at Foxsports Radio 551 00:32:01,440 --> 00:32:05,560 Speaker 1: dot com and within the iHeartRadio app. Search FSR to 552 00:32:05,640 --> 00:32:07,920 Speaker 1: listen live update the pull results. 553 00:32:08,000 --> 00:32:12,960 Speaker 5: Dylan Yeah, then uh Lebron James hasn't announced where he's 554 00:32:13,000 --> 00:32:16,680 Speaker 5: playing next because he hasn't decided, or he craves attention. 555 00:32:17,400 --> 00:32:20,400 Speaker 5: Ninety point five percent say he craves attention. 556 00:32:21,080 --> 00:32:24,680 Speaker 2: Wow, I believe he knows where he's going. I don't 557 00:32:24,720 --> 00:32:27,840 Speaker 2: know why he's not telling us yet where he's going, 558 00:32:28,440 --> 00:32:33,680 Speaker 2: but go get him. You know, I can't be the 559 00:32:33,840 --> 00:32:36,200 Speaker 2: guy to yell at you for everything to get off 560 00:32:36,240 --> 00:32:39,760 Speaker 2: my lawn. Like there's certain things where I go, All right, 561 00:32:40,320 --> 00:32:43,880 Speaker 2: stay on my lawn. Let's watch out the sprinkler systems. 562 00:32:43,920 --> 00:32:47,200 Speaker 2: Going on. Back to Caitlin Clark for a moment. This 563 00:32:47,280 --> 00:32:53,720 Speaker 2: whole thing changed. That the narrative changed when Angel Reese. 564 00:32:54,920 --> 00:32:57,280 Speaker 2: You know, the NCAA tournament, you win the title, and 565 00:32:57,320 --> 00:33:01,440 Speaker 2: you're basically punking Caitlyn Clark right in her face, waving 566 00:33:01,520 --> 00:33:04,320 Speaker 2: her ring finger that she'd have a championship ring on. 567 00:33:05,000 --> 00:33:08,680 Speaker 2: That's when it changed. Caitlin Clark up to that moment 568 00:33:08,840 --> 00:33:13,440 Speaker 2: was unbelievable. She was pistol Pete Maravich. She was exciting, 569 00:33:13,480 --> 00:33:16,440 Speaker 2: she was fun, she was different. Oh my gosh, she's shooting. 570 00:33:16,560 --> 00:33:18,760 Speaker 2: She can shoot as well as the men, can't. You 571 00:33:18,800 --> 00:33:22,680 Speaker 2: know all of this stuff, ye know, taking Iowa to 572 00:33:22,720 --> 00:33:27,320 Speaker 2: a national title game. Then Angel rees changed that. I mean, 573 00:33:27,360 --> 00:33:31,160 Speaker 2: good for Angel Reeves, she's become rich, but it's a 574 00:33:31,200 --> 00:33:36,600 Speaker 2: fact it changed. It changed that day, and it felt 575 00:33:36,640 --> 00:33:42,000 Speaker 2: like people chose sides. Right after that trip in Vegas, 576 00:33:42,080 --> 00:33:44,640 Speaker 2: Hi trip, What do you have for me today? 577 00:33:46,680 --> 00:33:49,800 Speaker 9: A good morning? I was just curious about, was Caitlin 578 00:33:49,840 --> 00:33:52,040 Speaker 9: Clark Y'll have a good weekend? Before I hang up? 579 00:33:52,720 --> 00:33:56,000 Speaker 9: Do you think is this the first time in sports 580 00:33:56,160 --> 00:33:59,400 Speaker 9: history that the biggest superstar in a sport she's not 581 00:33:59,440 --> 00:34:02,680 Speaker 9: the best player, but she is the biggest superstar. Do 582 00:34:02,680 --> 00:34:05,200 Speaker 9: you think that's why there's so much animosity and jealousy 583 00:34:05,200 --> 00:34:06,920 Speaker 9: towards her? Amongst the WNBA. 584 00:34:07,120 --> 00:34:11,920 Speaker 2: I think it's part of a trip. You're the new girl. 585 00:34:12,360 --> 00:34:15,879 Speaker 2: Everybody wants to see how good you are. You got now, look, 586 00:34:15,960 --> 00:34:19,960 Speaker 2: these are competitors. They're not out there just to go, hey, Caitlin, 587 00:34:20,120 --> 00:34:24,520 Speaker 2: light us up. Man, They're gonna deer up. They want 588 00:34:24,520 --> 00:34:27,080 Speaker 2: to lock her down, they want to knock her down. 589 00:34:28,600 --> 00:34:30,719 Speaker 2: This is this is big time basketball. 590 00:34:31,680 --> 00:34:34,319 Speaker 4: Yes, Marmon, did Michael Jordan catch some of this because 591 00:34:34,320 --> 00:34:35,720 Speaker 4: he had to say that sure she was a rookie. 592 00:34:35,760 --> 00:34:37,160 Speaker 4: Did he catch that when he got into the NBA? 593 00:34:37,520 --> 00:34:41,560 Speaker 2: Yes, yes he did. It's like, what have you done? 594 00:34:42,280 --> 00:34:45,879 Speaker 2: You haven't won anything. There was no social media then, 595 00:34:46,800 --> 00:34:50,120 Speaker 2: but Mike came in. Wait, he's got his own shoe. 596 00:34:51,960 --> 00:34:55,120 Speaker 2: What did he do? And haven't done anything? And you 597 00:34:55,160 --> 00:34:58,240 Speaker 2: probably had the old guard saying, you know, we're gonna 598 00:34:58,560 --> 00:35:00,480 Speaker 2: we're gonna see how good you are. I mean they 599 00:35:00,920 --> 00:35:04,560 Speaker 2: did find down quickly, but uh yeah, I think there's 600 00:35:04,600 --> 00:35:09,800 Speaker 2: something to that. Let's see Austin in Louisiana. Hi, Austin, 601 00:35:09,840 --> 00:35:11,680 Speaker 2: what's on your mind? Hey? 602 00:35:11,680 --> 00:35:15,240 Speaker 10: What WB? Heanks calling me back? Happy to meet Friday. 603 00:35:15,760 --> 00:35:17,839 Speaker 10: So look, you and the fella's been talking a lot 604 00:35:17,840 --> 00:35:21,560 Speaker 10: of Mount Rushmore. This week, which I love so at 605 00:35:21,600 --> 00:35:24,000 Speaker 10: the long time listener, I thought it was my duty 606 00:35:24,160 --> 00:35:27,480 Speaker 10: to call in and give you the definitive Mount Rushmore 607 00:35:27,480 --> 00:35:28,800 Speaker 10: of Dan Patrick show callers. 608 00:35:29,000 --> 00:35:30,680 Speaker 2: Oh but this is this is the list. 609 00:35:30,960 --> 00:35:34,520 Speaker 10: Okay, I be controversial, but this is the list. Okay 610 00:35:34,719 --> 00:35:38,719 Speaker 10: the first time the list is the goat cis Christian Syracuse. 611 00:35:38,760 --> 00:35:41,919 Speaker 10: There's no there's no other way around it. He's number one. 612 00:35:42,160 --> 00:35:45,359 Speaker 10: I think everybody can agree on that. Yeah, so he's 613 00:35:45,440 --> 00:35:45,839 Speaker 10: number one. 614 00:35:46,080 --> 00:35:46,400 Speaker 2: Two. 615 00:35:46,560 --> 00:35:48,799 Speaker 10: I think it's pretty pretty universal as well. You gotta 616 00:35:48,800 --> 00:35:51,399 Speaker 10: go Shay and Irving. I mean, look what this man's done. 617 00:35:51,400 --> 00:35:56,480 Speaker 10: He's parlated into multiple podcasts. He's doing stuff with everybody now. 618 00:35:56,520 --> 00:35:58,800 Speaker 10: And who would have thought Shay looked like middle aged 619 00:35:58,880 --> 00:36:04,520 Speaker 10: orson Wells. Just just google if anybody doesn't. If anybody 620 00:36:04,520 --> 00:36:08,719 Speaker 10: doesn't know, just google that real fast. It's shocking. So look, 621 00:36:08,800 --> 00:36:11,200 Speaker 10: I think those two are pretty universal. My next two 622 00:36:11,360 --> 00:36:13,920 Speaker 10: or you know, dealer's choice, I'm going Jeff in Detroit. 623 00:36:14,280 --> 00:36:17,320 Speaker 10: Always loved Jess calls. You know, he doesn't call in anymore, 624 00:36:17,640 --> 00:36:20,120 Speaker 10: but he was always you know, calling him from the job, 625 00:36:20,200 --> 00:36:22,520 Speaker 10: from the car. You could always count on him. And 626 00:36:22,600 --> 00:36:24,960 Speaker 10: my last one is a guy who used to call 627 00:36:25,040 --> 00:36:27,520 Speaker 10: in all the time. Not anymore. Jake and Wisconsin. One 628 00:36:27,520 --> 00:36:30,400 Speaker 10: of the ogis one of the OG's, you know, a 629 00:36:30,480 --> 00:36:32,719 Speaker 10: red hook guy. I think he will. I think he 630 00:36:32,840 --> 00:36:35,160 Speaker 10: made it to the old man cave. But I used 631 00:36:35,200 --> 00:36:37,920 Speaker 10: to love Jake's call. So a couple of honorable mentions 632 00:36:37,960 --> 00:36:42,040 Speaker 10: to Tillian Bloomington and a new guy, Buddha. So that's 633 00:36:42,080 --> 00:36:43,640 Speaker 10: what I got. Thanks for taking I call Dan. 634 00:36:43,800 --> 00:36:46,080 Speaker 2: Thank you Austin Buddha in San Francisco. 635 00:36:46,280 --> 00:36:54,640 Speaker 11: Good morning Buddha, No buddy, Happy meet Friday boys, Stay strong, 636 00:36:54,920 --> 00:36:58,280 Speaker 11: Fritzy and Dan just say you know I love. 637 00:36:58,280 --> 00:37:02,560 Speaker 12: Coming on this program, just saying uh Dn. Gearing up 638 00:37:02,560 --> 00:37:05,960 Speaker 12: for this World Cup like in the final, I mean, 639 00:37:06,200 --> 00:37:08,920 Speaker 12: just watching all this soccer throughout the tournament. 640 00:37:09,000 --> 00:37:10,719 Speaker 9: Messi to me is like Gretzky. 641 00:37:11,400 --> 00:37:15,040 Speaker 12: I mean he's constantly weaving in and out and like 642 00:37:15,160 --> 00:37:17,960 Speaker 12: he's not the biggest fella out there, and he just 643 00:37:18,160 --> 00:37:21,719 Speaker 12: dominates with an ease and grace while doing it. It 644 00:37:21,800 --> 00:37:23,080 Speaker 12: reminds me of gretz Ski. 645 00:37:23,160 --> 00:37:23,920 Speaker 2: It's awesome. 646 00:37:24,520 --> 00:37:26,040 Speaker 9: And after he retires. 647 00:37:26,400 --> 00:37:28,160 Speaker 12: I mean, I think Messi has a feature in like 648 00:37:28,239 --> 00:37:31,279 Speaker 12: Olympic speedwalking, because I like that's I mean, that's what 649 00:37:31,400 --> 00:37:33,960 Speaker 12: he kind of does the whole time while he's out 650 00:37:34,000 --> 00:37:36,400 Speaker 12: on the pitch, and you know, as we all know, 651 00:37:37,200 --> 00:37:40,880 Speaker 12: Spain is stacked. Let's go with fun. 652 00:37:40,960 --> 00:37:46,840 Speaker 2: Yeah, thank you, thank you, Buddha. Uh that that comment 653 00:37:46,920 --> 00:37:49,600 Speaker 2: Spain is stacked goes back to Chris Mannix when we 654 00:37:49,600 --> 00:37:52,600 Speaker 2: were talking about the Olympics and he would throw out 655 00:37:52,640 --> 00:37:56,160 Speaker 2: I think because Ricky Rubio was playing, he'd goes, Spain 656 00:37:56,200 --> 00:37:59,719 Speaker 2: is stacked. So we just walk around sometimes randomly say 657 00:38:00,320 --> 00:38:04,880 Speaker 2: Spain is stacked. Darius Rutger. You know, I got a 658 00:38:04,960 --> 00:38:10,040 Speaker 2: wedding invitation from Darius and his fiance last night. He's 659 00:38:10,040 --> 00:38:12,359 Speaker 2: going to join us next hour, hour two on this 660 00:38:12,440 --> 00:38:14,040 Speaker 2: meet Friday after this