WEBVTT - #662 Packers Unscripted: Getting into game action 0:00:02.279 --> 0:00:10.800 Hi, everybody. Welcome to another edition of Packers Unscripted from 0:00:10.800 --> 0:00:14.160 Packers dot Com. I am Mike Spofford. He is my 0:00:14.240 --> 0:00:16.600 partner in crime, West hod Kuitz. We're coming to you 0:00:16.640 --> 0:00:19.799 here from our studios at lambeau Field and Weston. The 0:00:19.840 --> 0:00:23.000 preseason opener is upon us. It will be the Packers 0:00:23.120 --> 0:00:26.320 and the forty Niners out on the West Coast on 0:00:26.680 --> 0:00:30.240 Friday evening. So we'll get right into it as far 0:00:30.320 --> 0:00:33.920 as what to watch for in this first preseason game 0:00:33.960 --> 0:00:36.479 of two and we'll start on the offensive side of 0:00:36.520 --> 0:00:40.200 the ball. What will be what will your eyes be on? 0:00:40.240 --> 0:00:42.600 What's your biggest headline going in here? Well, assume I 0:00:42.600 --> 0:00:44.879 can keep my eyes open. That's gonna be the biggest 0:00:44.920 --> 0:00:47.239 challenge I think this week, not necessarily because of the game, 0:00:47.280 --> 0:00:49.960 but just for myself trying to get some sleep here. Yeah, 0:00:50.000 --> 0:00:51.960 you're going on a second road trip here in a 0:00:52.000 --> 0:00:54.240 span of you know, eight or nine. I'm not built 0:00:54.280 --> 0:00:57.920 for that, Mike. Yeah. We went two years without traveling 0:00:57.960 --> 0:00:59.600 at all, and now here I am. They can't stop 0:00:59.600 --> 0:01:03.960 getting me on planes. Um No, it's Jordan's love. And 0:01:05.400 --> 0:01:09.000 again this is my eleventh training camp, now twelve if 0:01:09.040 --> 0:01:11.039 you call it my part time year, I helped out 0:01:11.080 --> 0:01:14.240 the press Causeette the back of quarterbacks always do get 0:01:14.240 --> 0:01:16.319 a lot of headlines. They get a lot of spotlight 0:01:16.319 --> 0:01:18.760 because it's quarterback play and that's where the ball starts 0:01:19.080 --> 0:01:20.800 and you're trying to see what you have here behind 0:01:20.840 --> 0:01:24.679 Aaron Rodgers. But maybe more than ever, this is going 0:01:24.720 --> 0:01:28.759 to be a critical preseason for the Packers number two quarterback, 0:01:28.800 --> 0:01:31.520 and Jordan's loved. He's going to play a lot. I 0:01:31.520 --> 0:01:34.800 mean we watched the practice with them going out there 0:01:34.920 --> 0:01:38.240 on Wednesday, and he took a lion share of the 0:01:38.280 --> 0:01:42.040 team reps Danny Etling beyond just the young guys sort 0:01:42.080 --> 0:01:44.880 of scout team stuff down the other side, Uh, it 0:01:45.040 --> 0:01:47.480 was all Rogers in love taking all the snaps. So, 0:01:48.080 --> 0:01:49.520 and he's going to get a chance to work with 0:01:49.560 --> 0:01:53.240 the preferred you know, the starting line that is likely 0:01:53.280 --> 0:01:55.120 going to be the ones, at least most of them 0:01:55.120 --> 0:01:57.840 that will be protecting Aaron Rodgers in Week one. He's 0:01:57.880 --> 0:02:00.480 gonna have the young receivers to work with. There's gonna 0:02:00.520 --> 0:02:02.160 be a lot of those tools for him to build 0:02:02.200 --> 0:02:04.520 with in this game against the forty nine is regardless 0:02:04.560 --> 0:02:07.440 of what San Francisco lines up with, So seeing how 0:02:08.480 --> 0:02:11.000 Love is able to carry over some of the positive 0:02:11.000 --> 0:02:13.560 things he's done in practice so far and minimize some 0:02:13.639 --> 0:02:17.440 of the turnovers, minimive son of the broken plays. That's 0:02:17.480 --> 0:02:19.600 what I'm looking for you and I have said it, Mike. 0:02:19.639 --> 0:02:21.519 There's no different way to say it than what we've 0:02:21.560 --> 0:02:26.120 already been stating. It's about being you know, consistent, baseline 0:02:26.680 --> 0:02:29.400 par for the course. That's what you're looking for here. 0:02:29.440 --> 0:02:31.840 Because greatness is there in that young man. He's going 0:02:31.919 --> 0:02:34.720 to have exceptional throws. He's going to be able to 0:02:34.720 --> 0:02:37.280 make plays. I have full confidence in that. It's about 0:02:37.280 --> 0:02:40.120 making sure that down after down, he's going to be 0:02:40.200 --> 0:02:43.160 able to be a guy that's going to rally the troops. Yeah. Absolutely. 0:02:43.200 --> 0:02:47.399 And we've heard from from Rogers, from Matt Lafleura, from 0:02:47.880 --> 0:02:53.320 Brian Goodakunst on how how much more confident Jordan's Love 0:02:53.400 --> 0:02:56.440 looks in his own game this summer about how you 0:02:56.440 --> 0:02:59.079 know he he really is letting it loose, He's cutting 0:02:59.080 --> 0:03:01.680 it loose. Everything about the footwork is more comfortable, the 0:03:01.760 --> 0:03:05.160 decision making and all that. Now, the thing is, when 0:03:05.200 --> 0:03:07.720 you get to that point, you can get yourself in trouble, right, 0:03:07.800 --> 0:03:10.840 you can get you can you can let it rip 0:03:10.919 --> 0:03:13.720 and and you're going against a pretty good defensive practice 0:03:13.760 --> 0:03:15.520 and they're gonna make you pay every once in a while. 0:03:15.600 --> 0:03:19.280 So even though we're I think we've seen Jordan's love, 0:03:19.680 --> 0:03:22.639 you know, reach a different level in training camp than 0:03:22.800 --> 0:03:25.959 than certainly we've seen the first two summers that he's 0:03:26.000 --> 0:03:29.520 been here. But in gaining that confidence, he's he's still 0:03:29.560 --> 0:03:32.800 going through some of the ups and downs because uh, um, 0:03:32.919 --> 0:03:35.760 because that boldness, you know, sometimes can bite you right. 0:03:35.880 --> 0:03:39.080 So it's it's all part of the growing process, it's 0:03:39.080 --> 0:03:41.119 all part of the learning process. And now that he's 0:03:41.120 --> 0:03:43.640 going to be going up against a defense that doesn't 0:03:43.640 --> 0:03:46.920 know him, whether it's the starters for the Niners or 0:03:47.320 --> 0:03:50.600 a second team unit, whatever it might be, but it's 0:03:50.600 --> 0:03:53.280 a defense that doesn't know him and doesn't know his game, 0:03:53.440 --> 0:03:56.400 and and uh, you know, he's gonna have to deal 0:03:56.440 --> 0:03:58.440 with those ups and downs during a game. But just 0:03:58.800 --> 0:04:01.200 exactly what level is he going to be playing at? 0:04:01.240 --> 0:04:04.680 And I think that's uh, he has to establish where 0:04:04.720 --> 0:04:08.160 he's going to be for this preseason going forward and 0:04:08.200 --> 0:04:11.200 then work on either at least either staying there or 0:04:11.320 --> 0:04:14.520 pushing it even further. In preseason games, number two and 0:04:14.600 --> 0:04:18.960 three three words, Mike, let her rip. That's what I 0:04:19.000 --> 0:04:21.560 want to see from Love because I don't care about 0:04:21.600 --> 0:04:25.960 the interceptions in these three games, doesn't matter. I want 0:04:26.000 --> 0:04:28.640 to see Jordan's Love play like Jordan's Love because I 0:04:28.680 --> 0:04:32.000 think personally, when he's actually playing on tempo, when he's 0:04:32.000 --> 0:04:35.479 playing free, that's the best version of him. You can 0:04:35.520 --> 0:04:39.479 deal with the interceptions and learn from those interceptions when 0:04:39.480 --> 0:04:41.240 you go to back and break down the film, when 0:04:41.240 --> 0:04:43.880 you go back and go through the fundamentals, what it's 0:04:43.920 --> 0:04:45.880 more difficult is you just don't want to see him 0:04:45.880 --> 0:04:48.240 playing rigid. You don't want to see him, you know, 0:04:48.279 --> 0:04:50.719 exercising the checkdowns. You want to see him being able 0:04:50.760 --> 0:04:53.480 to operate the offense as it's intended to be functioned. 0:04:54.240 --> 0:04:56.240 So that that's really where I look for in this game. 0:04:56.279 --> 0:04:58.960 I want him to play free, play confident, and just 0:04:59.040 --> 0:05:01.000 try to be the best Jordan's Love he can be 0:05:01.040 --> 0:05:03.720 out there, because that's where you're going to learn the most. 0:05:03.720 --> 0:05:06.000 It's where he's going to improve the most, and it's 0:05:06.040 --> 0:05:07.600 where these coaches are going to be able to go 0:05:07.640 --> 0:05:09.960 back through the film and tell him, Okay, this is 0:05:09.960 --> 0:05:12.040 where this is what we like that you did, and 0:05:12.040 --> 0:05:13.600 this is how we have to harness some of those 0:05:13.640 --> 0:05:17.000 gifts because realistically, like I go back to that Kansas 0:05:17.000 --> 0:05:19.599 City game last year, it was a very conservative type 0:05:19.600 --> 0:05:21.760 approach and he was dealing with a short week. He 0:05:21.800 --> 0:05:23.880 did not want to make mistakes, and I'm totally with 0:05:23.960 --> 0:05:26.680 him on that. But it's allowing yourself to make those 0:05:26.680 --> 0:05:29.159 downfield throws that that going back to the one he 0:05:29.200 --> 0:05:31.719 had to Sammy Watkins last week, going back to some 0:05:31.800 --> 0:05:33.880 of these throws that he's made to to Romeo Dobbs. 0:05:34.200 --> 0:05:36.040 It's there and I want to see if you can 0:05:36.080 --> 0:05:38.600 put that on the field in San Jose. Yeah, absolutely, 0:05:38.600 --> 0:05:41.680 Well you mentioned, uh, the offensive line that will be 0:05:41.720 --> 0:05:43.960 in front of him, that that is another element that 0:05:44.000 --> 0:05:47.200 will definitely be watched closely. Here in this preseason opener 0:05:47.200 --> 0:05:50.760 against San Francisco, Packers are going to line up with 0:05:50.839 --> 0:05:53.960 yosh Naimanett left tackle, John Runyon att left guard, and 0:05:54.080 --> 0:05:58.599 Josh Meyers at center, and they're working three guys essentially 0:05:58.680 --> 0:06:01.640 for two spots on the right side of the offensive line. Now, 0:06:02.120 --> 0:06:05.039 Jake Hansen has been playing some right guard, the rookie 0:06:05.040 --> 0:06:08.719 fourth round pick Zack tom has been playing some right tackle, 0:06:09.360 --> 0:06:11.719 and then Royce Newman, who started the bulk of the 0:06:11.760 --> 0:06:14.480 season last year at right guard, has been playing both 0:06:14.480 --> 0:06:18.039 of those spots depending on which other guy is is 0:06:18.080 --> 0:06:21.159 in the lineup at that particular time. So it's sort 0:06:21.160 --> 0:06:24.680 of three guys for two spots um and Aaron Rodgers 0:06:24.720 --> 0:06:29.440 said it at his locker after Tuesday's practice. Everybody's waiting 0:06:29.440 --> 0:06:32.280 to see if somebody's going to take it over. Who 0:06:32.360 --> 0:06:36.560 is who is going to step forward amongst those three guys, 0:06:36.680 --> 0:06:38.560 you know, take the bull by the horns, so to 0:06:38.640 --> 0:06:41.880 speaker whatever and say and say I'm the leader of 0:06:41.920 --> 0:06:44.760 this trio, and uh, you know, go ahead and get 0:06:44.760 --> 0:06:47.160 in line and follow me, and let's uh and let's 0:06:47.160 --> 0:06:49.360 get this thing figured out. So what I've learned through 0:06:49.400 --> 0:06:51.760 the first two weeks of training camp is that the 0:06:51.839 --> 0:06:54.400 left side of the offensive line right now is Yosh Dieimon, 0:06:54.760 --> 0:06:58.880 John Runyon and Josh Myers second year former second round 0:06:58.880 --> 0:07:02.200 pick at center. If Boxr can get back out there 0:07:02.279 --> 0:07:05.600 sooner rather than later. To me, Yoshneimann is the right tackle. 0:07:06.360 --> 0:07:08.560 I think. No matter what way you slice this thing, 0:07:09.000 --> 0:07:11.280 Yosh Steiman has performed in a way in that he 0:07:11.440 --> 0:07:14.120 is one of the top five starting offensive lineman. They 0:07:14.120 --> 0:07:15.760 have to find a way to get him on the field, 0:07:15.840 --> 0:07:21.360 I would agree. The real question is, Okay Royce right guard, 0:07:21.440 --> 0:07:24.520 right tackle, left guard. You know, you look at Zack 0:07:24.600 --> 0:07:26.960 Tom coming in and getting some reps now at right tackle. 0:07:27.080 --> 0:07:30.640 And then obviously Jake Hansen's probably leading the Packers right 0:07:30.640 --> 0:07:34.720 now in team reps so far, uh this summer, which 0:07:34.760 --> 0:07:38.720 is a stark contrast to his first two summers in 0:07:38.800 --> 0:07:40.800 Green Bay. This is a guy that when it is 0:07:40.880 --> 0:07:42.480 his day, in the last couple of days it has 0:07:42.520 --> 0:07:45.080 been he's been at right guard, and then with the 0:07:45.120 --> 0:07:48.000 twos he's going to center. Because the Packers, regardless of 0:07:48.000 --> 0:07:49.920 what happens with Hanson and the starting equation, they have 0:07:49.960 --> 0:07:53.000 to identify the backup to Josh Myers as well. Yeah, 0:07:53.040 --> 0:07:55.680 so and and as and to further that point, this 0:07:55.720 --> 0:07:58.040 is a guy who is first two summers in Green 0:07:58.120 --> 0:08:01.680 Bay hardly took any eleven on eleven reps unless it 0:08:01.760 --> 0:08:03.680 was the number three unit that was out there. And 0:08:03.720 --> 0:08:06.480 now this summer he's He's out there with either the 0:08:06.520 --> 0:08:09.640 ones or the two's for pretty much every team snap. 0:08:09.800 --> 0:08:11.680 So the right side of the line is where I 0:08:11.720 --> 0:08:13.960 think my eyes are going to be the most in 0:08:13.960 --> 0:08:16.200 this in this thing because I think both of those 0:08:16.240 --> 0:08:19.680 guys Newman and Jake Anson are going to play quite 0:08:19.720 --> 0:08:22.160 a bit. I'd be curiously how much they do play 0:08:22.280 --> 0:08:25.040 Josh Myers too. I mean, certainly you want to get 0:08:25.080 --> 0:08:28.960 Myers some work as a young second year player, but 0:08:29.320 --> 0:08:31.840 it's also so critical to have him healthy and ready 0:08:31.840 --> 0:08:34.720 for this this stretch here this season. So a lot 0:08:34.760 --> 0:08:36.720 of decisions the Packers have to make there. But again, 0:08:36.760 --> 0:08:38.600 if there was one big takeaway from me in this 0:08:38.679 --> 0:08:41.280 opening week, opening two weeks of training camp, is that 0:08:41.760 --> 0:08:45.960 Yoshneiman in his fourth NFL season, his third accruede season, 0:08:46.520 --> 0:08:49.240 uh he, he has really continued to look the part 0:08:49.280 --> 0:08:52.520 and has really continued to really blossom as what has 0:08:52.760 --> 0:08:56.679 turned into becoming this emergency left tackle. Yeah. Absolutely, yosh 0:08:56.840 --> 0:09:01.120 Yoshneiman has uh Um has really has really performed well 0:09:01.120 --> 0:09:04.440 and I think solidified himself as as without a doubt 0:09:04.160 --> 0:09:08.199 on a regular NFL offensive lineman. However, that ends up 0:09:08.520 --> 0:09:11.520 shaking out here in the coming weeks. The other part 0:09:11.559 --> 0:09:14.080 on offense, the other element that we need to talk about, 0:09:14.080 --> 0:09:17.280 of course is the wide receiver position and a few 0:09:17.320 --> 0:09:20.120 things to keep an eye on here. One, you know, 0:09:20.280 --> 0:09:22.560 the star of the first couple of weeks of training 0:09:22.559 --> 0:09:25.200 camp has been Romeo Adopts, the rookie fourth round pick 0:09:25.559 --> 0:09:29.760 out of Nevada. Is he going to carry over the 0:09:29.960 --> 0:09:33.040 production and the playmaking that we've seen on the practice field. 0:09:33.160 --> 0:09:37.200 Will he perform in that fashion? Um in a game 0:09:37.240 --> 0:09:40.760 setting when the lights go on Friday night? Um, a 0:09:40.840 --> 0:09:45.360 seventh round pick like Samari Tourey, He's had his moments 0:09:45.360 --> 0:09:48.839 in training camp, Yes, but then when the lights came 0:09:48.880 --> 0:09:52.240 on for family Night, suddenly he was the star. So 0:09:52.520 --> 0:09:55.240 is he one of these guys that, you know, like 0:09:55.280 --> 0:09:58.800 Aaron Rodgers talked about, there's some guys who just rise 0:09:58.920 --> 0:10:02.200 to the occasion brighter the lights get right, And so 0:10:02.520 --> 0:10:05.240 I think that's something to watch from him because he 0:10:05.440 --> 0:10:08.080 he's a rookie, seventh round pick who's had his ups 0:10:08.080 --> 0:10:11.400 and downs in the garden variety practices. But boy, on 0:10:11.480 --> 0:10:13.880 Friday night, you know, in front of fifty thousand at 0:10:13.960 --> 0:10:17.000 lambeau Field, he looked, he looked like a different player, 0:10:17.200 --> 0:10:19.800 you know. So packers are going to look and and 0:10:19.800 --> 0:10:23.880 and see what what they've got there. Um, we still 0:10:23.920 --> 0:10:27.160 haven't seen Christian Watson yet, But then of course we 0:10:27.240 --> 0:10:31.240 also want to see Amari Rodgers, Juwan Winfrey. UM, not 0:10:31.280 --> 0:10:33.680 sure if Malik Taylor is going to be deemed healthy 0:10:33.800 --> 0:10:35.760 enough to play it. He was back in practice a 0:10:35.760 --> 0:10:38.560 little bit this week with Red Jersey on that's uh, 0:10:38.640 --> 0:10:42.240 that's wait and see there. But hold over players like 0:10:42.440 --> 0:10:45.560 Rogers and Winfrey, who they've gotten their feet wet in 0:10:45.559 --> 0:10:49.160 the NFL, They've made some plays in regular season games, 0:10:49.200 --> 0:10:52.040 but as very much as part time players thus far, 0:10:52.880 --> 0:10:54.920 are they going to show the strides? Are they going 0:10:54.960 --> 0:10:59.079 to show that, especially if they're going against potentially reserve 0:10:59.240 --> 0:11:02.480 unit defense players. Are they going to make the plays 0:11:02.520 --> 0:11:05.680 that are expected of them, because maybe they should be 0:11:06.000 --> 0:11:07.800 a half a step or a step ahead of some 0:11:07.880 --> 0:11:10.400 of those guys. So those are the things to watch. 0:11:10.400 --> 0:11:12.719 At the receiver position, yeah, because you know those top 0:11:12.760 --> 0:11:14.640 three vets aren't going to play in this game. And 0:11:14.679 --> 0:11:17.200 even you know Randall Cobb was out with the foot 0:11:17.240 --> 0:11:19.880 injury on Wednesday, so certainly you know you're not going 0:11:19.960 --> 0:11:24.240 to see cops. So those four or five six receivers 0:11:24.240 --> 0:11:26.680 if you want to throw Danny Davison there too from Wisconsin, 0:11:27.080 --> 0:11:29.560 they're all going to get plenty of looks in this matchup. 0:11:29.600 --> 0:11:32.640 And for me, I think It's really interesting to watch 0:11:32.679 --> 0:11:35.000 Winfree right now because this is a guy, Mike that 0:11:35.040 --> 0:11:38.400 has put together two of the more impressive offseason programs, 0:11:38.800 --> 0:11:40.920 especially during this age where you're not seeing as many 0:11:40.920 --> 0:11:45.080 of the proven veterans at those practices. Last year, I think, 0:11:45.240 --> 0:11:48.240 really Malik Taylor was the most veteran player that attended 0:11:48.760 --> 0:11:51.800 from the receiving corps this past summer. Obviously, Alan Lazar 0:11:52.400 --> 0:11:55.760 hadn't signed his restrict attender, he wasn't there. So you know, 0:11:55.800 --> 0:11:58.800 Winfrey has gotten a lot of reps and he's looked good. 0:11:58.920 --> 0:12:01.240 I mean, even in this act as we watched on Wednesday, 0:12:01.360 --> 0:12:04.720 I really liked his approach. Um, you see the natural 0:12:04.760 --> 0:12:07.440 ball skills, but can he can he get that going 0:12:07.480 --> 0:12:09.559 in the games, because last year when he did get 0:12:09.600 --> 0:12:11.920 thrown into the fire, there were some hiccups, there were 0:12:12.000 --> 0:12:16.480 some drops. But everybody, including Aaron Rodgers, sees the potential 0:12:16.520 --> 0:12:18.080 in this young man. This is a guy that was 0:12:18.120 --> 0:12:20.560 a draft pick into the National Football League. He's not 0:12:20.640 --> 0:12:22.360 some Johnny Come Lately that was just trying to be 0:12:22.360 --> 0:12:24.959 an undrafted free agent that's stuck around for a few years. 0:12:25.360 --> 0:12:27.720 This guy came in as a Day three pick with 0:12:27.800 --> 0:12:30.440 Washington and he wants to prove that he can still 0:12:30.480 --> 0:12:32.760 play in this league. So a lot of very hungry 0:12:32.800 --> 0:12:35.960 young men and and certainly seeing if Love and Winfrey 0:12:35.960 --> 0:12:38.400 can get that connection going again. That's been a really 0:12:38.480 --> 0:12:40.560 good one to punch here for Green Bay and some 0:12:40.600 --> 0:12:43.160 of these offseason practices the last two years. 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All right, on the 0:13:13.000 --> 0:13:16.120 defensive side, this is where things always get interesting for 0:13:16.160 --> 0:13:19.840 me when you make that transition from training camp into 0:13:19.920 --> 0:13:23.040 the first preseason game, because guess what, They're gonna have 0:13:23.120 --> 0:13:26.679 to tackle guys now, right, Um, none of the none 0:13:26.720 --> 0:13:28.960 of this, you know, just thud up and tag guys 0:13:29.000 --> 0:13:31.360 and whatever. Like, Okay, the task is, you got to 0:13:31.400 --> 0:13:35.760 get them on the ground. And so, um that being said, 0:13:36.679 --> 0:13:39.600 I think the first the first place that my eyes 0:13:39.679 --> 0:13:42.920 will go on the defensive side on Friday Night in 0:13:42.960 --> 0:13:46.079 this preseason opener is the two first round picks Kway 0:13:46.120 --> 0:13:51.360 Walker Davante Wyatt. Um. Those guys I thought both, you know, 0:13:51.840 --> 0:13:55.320 raise the level of their games on Family Night when 0:13:55.360 --> 0:13:58.000 the lights came on at lambeau Field. So I'm curious 0:13:58.000 --> 0:14:01.000 to see exactly what they look like and what sort 0:14:01.040 --> 0:14:04.680 of impact they have on the action when they're in 0:14:04.720 --> 0:14:08.440 their first NFL preseason game. Absolutely, and Quay Walker has 0:14:08.480 --> 0:14:10.680 just been off the charts here this last week. I 0:14:10.720 --> 0:14:13.840 mean again, we've talked about the speed, the explosiveness, the size, 0:14:13.880 --> 0:14:15.800 but the way he's standing up to the run, it 0:14:15.840 --> 0:14:18.320 looks really intimidating. I feel like he's been a good 0:14:18.320 --> 0:14:21.440 one to punch inside. Certainly, Chris Barnes is more than 0:14:21.480 --> 0:14:23.560 capable as well. I would imagine there'll be points where 0:14:23.560 --> 0:14:26.560 he's probably calling the defense if Dave Andre Campbell either 0:14:26.640 --> 0:14:30.600 doesn't play at all or plays minimally. Um, DeVante Wide, 0:14:30.680 --> 0:14:33.480 I hope we see now he on Wednesday, uh, you know, 0:14:33.680 --> 0:14:35.920 kind of going through the concussion protocol there to figure 0:14:35.960 --> 0:14:37.920 out exactly what was happening and if he if he's 0:14:37.920 --> 0:14:40.120 good to go, we'll have to see where that was 0:14:40.160 --> 0:14:42.200 kind of up in the air at practice. But but 0:14:42.320 --> 0:14:44.040 certainly you go back to the family now, you go 0:14:44.080 --> 0:14:46.280 back to some of these one on one pass rush periods. 0:14:46.840 --> 0:14:48.720 He has all the ability in the world, and I 0:14:48.800 --> 0:14:50.360 think this is the type of stage where he could 0:14:50.400 --> 0:14:53.640 really shine. But let's talk a little bit about farther 0:14:53.720 --> 0:14:56.040 down the depth chart there, because you know, t J. 0:14:56.120 --> 0:14:57.800 Slayton is a guy that I think he can really 0:14:57.800 --> 0:15:00.160 benefit from work this preseason. He got quite a bit 0:15:00.160 --> 0:15:02.880 of it last year. To Jack Heflin is still here, 0:15:02.920 --> 0:15:06.080 the undrafted free agent last year. Um that that kind 0:15:06.080 --> 0:15:08.720 of caught on and really caught some eyes. Uh. And 0:15:08.920 --> 0:15:11.200 then even a guy like Jonathan for the seventh round 0:15:11.240 --> 0:15:14.160 pick that's competing for spots. Kenny Clark and Dean Laurie 0:15:14.200 --> 0:15:15.880 and Garre and Reid are not playing in this game. 0:15:15.920 --> 0:15:18.520 I would not anticipate they play in this game. That's 0:15:18.560 --> 0:15:20.520 a lot of snaps that these big guys are gonna 0:15:20.560 --> 0:15:22.720 have to eat. And there's still some guys in those 0:15:22.880 --> 0:15:25.720 fIF five, six, seven spots trying to show that they 0:15:25.760 --> 0:15:28.000 could be a factor for this defense. Yeah. Absolutely. And 0:15:28.080 --> 0:15:30.920 I think another another thing we'll be watching for two 0:15:31.400 --> 0:15:35.360 because the competition has been has been somewhat heated as 0:15:35.400 --> 0:15:38.080 well as entertaining. And when I say heated, I don't 0:15:38.120 --> 0:15:41.000 mean in a nasty way, but but in a in 0:15:41.080 --> 0:15:44.560 a very entertaining and spirited way in terms of what's 0:15:44.560 --> 0:15:46.960 going on at the safety position. Because we saw in 0:15:47.040 --> 0:15:51.080 Wednesday's practice we had talked earlier this week, with Darnell 0:15:51.160 --> 0:15:54.040 Savage being out with the hamstring injury, Vernon Scott has 0:15:54.040 --> 0:15:56.320 been the one stepping in with the number one defense. 0:15:56.360 --> 0:15:59.880 He seemed to have moved past Sean Davis as the 0:16:00.080 --> 0:16:04.160 number three safety when Davis, uh seemed to have ended 0:16:04.200 --> 0:16:06.680 the spring workouts, O t S and minicamp as the 0:16:06.760 --> 0:16:11.600 number three safety. Well, then in Wednesday's practice, we saw 0:16:11.680 --> 0:16:14.800 Davis intercept Jordan's Love. We saw him make a diving 0:16:14.840 --> 0:16:18.880 interception on on an overthrow by Aaron Rodgers, and uh, 0:16:19.000 --> 0:16:21.280 he was having himself quite a day. And then all 0:16:21.320 --> 0:16:24.320 of a sudden, Vernon Scott Answers by getting an interception 0:16:24.360 --> 0:16:27.720 against Rogers to to end the two minute drill. Now 0:16:27.960 --> 0:16:33.479 Rogers in the offense they were objecting to that interception 0:16:33.520 --> 0:16:35.920 by Scott believing that he didn't get both feet down 0:16:35.920 --> 0:16:39.200 in bounds. We'll have to ask somebody later on who 0:16:39.320 --> 0:16:42.600 checked the film whether that was an interception or not. 0:16:42.720 --> 0:16:45.160 Rogers wanted to keep that drill going and uh, and 0:16:45.240 --> 0:16:47.920 he was told to head to the sideline because it 0:16:48.000 --> 0:16:52.120 was a pick. But anyway, my point is these two 0:16:52.360 --> 0:16:56.920 young players, Vernon Scott and uh and Sean Davis um 0:16:56.920 --> 0:16:58.960 really kind of duking it out, so to speak, to 0:16:58.960 --> 0:17:01.000 see who's going to be the umber three safety in 0:17:01.040 --> 0:17:04.240 this defense. And I know that the Packers aren't playing 0:17:04.280 --> 0:17:06.480 as you know, with the addition of Kay Walker at 0:17:06.520 --> 0:17:09.760 inside linebacker, the Packers aren't playing as much dime defense 0:17:09.800 --> 0:17:13.160 with the six dbs. You're not seeing um a third 0:17:13.240 --> 0:17:17.680 safety maybe as often as as we've seen in past 0:17:17.800 --> 0:17:21.120 years around here. But that being said, not only from 0:17:21.119 --> 0:17:23.520 an injury perspective, but you're still gonna want to have 0:17:23.640 --> 0:17:26.639 that guy when you want to go to that package. Right, 0:17:26.680 --> 0:17:28.960 they may not run it as often as as they 0:17:29.000 --> 0:17:31.679 did last year, and Uh, this is a this is 0:17:31.680 --> 0:17:35.320 an interesting competition that feels like it's far from over, yeah, 0:17:35.359 --> 0:17:37.880 for sure. And and for Vernon Scott to bounce back 0:17:37.920 --> 0:17:39.399 the way he has. I mean, this is gout that 0:17:39.560 --> 0:17:42.640 played in practically every game his rookie season in two 0:17:42.640 --> 0:17:44.440 thousand twenty, and then last year, I think with the 0:17:44.480 --> 0:17:47.080 hamstring and some other ailments, only played in three games, 0:17:47.080 --> 0:17:49.720 but was on the fifty three all season, and green 0:17:49.760 --> 0:17:52.399 Bay stay committed through him through it all. So for 0:17:52.480 --> 0:17:54.359 him to step up and be that guy that was 0:17:54.400 --> 0:17:56.679 next to be called upon, because keep in mind with 0:17:56.720 --> 0:17:58.720 Sean Davis being the number three, but you also had 0:17:58.720 --> 0:18:01.080 in his games back that was competing for spot down. 0:18:01.200 --> 0:18:04.000 Levitt came in, I mean, they drafted Tree Carpenter. I 0:18:04.000 --> 0:18:06.959 mean there are a lot of guys trying to clamp 0:18:07.000 --> 0:18:09.160 onto those three and four spots. And while you are 0:18:09.240 --> 0:18:12.080 right about that necessarily not having as much dime cornerback 0:18:12.160 --> 0:18:15.040 this season, you see what happens when darniell Savage goes 0:18:15.040 --> 0:18:18.159 down with the hamstring. That's an open spot among the 0:18:18.160 --> 0:18:20.240 eleven on defense that has to be on the field 0:18:20.240 --> 0:18:23.240 at all times. You need to have accountability there. You 0:18:23.320 --> 0:18:25.760 need to have somebody that you feel confident with. And 0:18:25.840 --> 0:18:28.840 that's really where I think, you know, Scott's fills in 0:18:28.880 --> 0:18:30.920 the most because what people don't realize is this kid 0:18:30.960 --> 0:18:34.160 coming out of TCU. He had his combine, we didn't 0:18:34.160 --> 0:18:36.479 get invited to combine. The proteint gets canceled, all these 0:18:36.520 --> 0:18:38.760 different things working against him. There were a lot of 0:18:38.760 --> 0:18:40.880 people in that program that felt like he easily could 0:18:40.880 --> 0:18:42.520 have ran a four four if he was just given 0:18:42.520 --> 0:18:46.320 the opportunity to. So Green Bay sees that speed. As Jr. 0:18:46.320 --> 0:18:48.720 Alexander said to us on Wednesday, he's you know, he 0:18:48.760 --> 0:18:50.720 can tell that he's more confident. He's getting this thing 0:18:50.720 --> 0:18:52.600 down a little bit more. It's gonna be a great 0:18:52.600 --> 0:18:55.199 guy to watch. And Sean Davis, much like on the 0:18:55.200 --> 0:18:57.560 opposite side of the ball with Jowan Winfrey, a guy 0:18:57.600 --> 0:19:00.480 that also came in former draft pick in was trying 0:19:00.520 --> 0:19:02.600 to work his way into this lineup from the practice squad. 0:19:02.600 --> 0:19:04.560 The Packers felt confident enough about him at the end 0:19:04.560 --> 0:19:06.639 of last season they didn't want to lose them, so 0:19:06.680 --> 0:19:08.600 they elevated into the fifty three, even though they only 0:19:08.640 --> 0:19:11.560 played in one game. A lot of bodies there at 0:19:11.600 --> 0:19:14.480 that position to really consider not only for the third 0:19:14.920 --> 0:19:18.720 fourth safety role, but also potentially playing for Ritz Pacci 0:19:18.840 --> 0:19:20.680 on special teams. Yeah, and that was the last thing 0:19:20.720 --> 0:19:22.600 I wanted to get to here before we go was 0:19:22.640 --> 0:19:25.760 with regard to special teams, but also yeah, Sean Davis, 0:19:25.880 --> 0:19:28.960 fifth round pick by the Indianapolis Colts last year, ended 0:19:29.040 --> 0:19:32.840 up in late September joining the Packers practice squad and 0:19:32.840 --> 0:19:35.199 then as you said, elevated to the active roster at 0:19:35.200 --> 0:19:36.440 the end of the season. But this is the guy 0:19:36.480 --> 0:19:38.760 who was a fifth round pick just a year ago. 0:19:39.040 --> 0:19:41.760 So uh so that's something to keep in mind with 0:19:41.800 --> 0:19:46.399 regard to Davis. But for special teams, it will be 0:19:46.520 --> 0:19:49.399