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Speaker 1: Hi, and welcome back to the Carol Markowitz Show on iHeartRadio.

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Speaker 1: A number of years ago, back in twenty fifteen, I

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Speaker 1: wrote about a robbery that had occurred in the Ditmas

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Speaker 1: Park section of Brooklyn. A writer, Haya Babu, was at

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Speaker 1: the Lark Cafe when a man with a gun came

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Speaker 1: in to rob the place. So what was different about

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Speaker 1: this robbery is that the gunman didn't just hit the register.

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Speaker 1: He stole the laptops of Baboo and the rest of

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Speaker 1: the writers who were meeting there. She was there for

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Speaker 1: like a writer's group thing. In a long rumination on

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Speaker 1: the incident, Baboo writes that she and her writer friends

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Speaker 1: felt angry and violated, but not in a way that

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Speaker 1: necessarily placed blame on the person who did it. Okay,

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Speaker 1: it seems if they blame anyone, it's themselves for existing

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Speaker 1: and choosing to live in Ditmoss Park in the first place.

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Speaker 1: In the weeks following the robbery, she and her friends

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Speaker 1: worked on quote finding space to take into consideration the

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Speaker 1: broader social and economic circumstances surrounding the incident, and quote

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Speaker 1: cultivated our sense of compassion toward the robber, whom we

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Speaker 1: imagined must have been acting out of dire needll on

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Speaker 1: the dire need of somebody robbing a bunch of laptops

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Speaker 1: from writers at a coffee shop. Baboo quotes another writer

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Speaker 1: who was robbed that night as saying, I didn't ultimately

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Speaker 1: think that person posed a threat. I didn't feel afraid

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Speaker 1: of the person. I felt more just afraid of the weapon.

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Speaker 2: I mean, welcome to.

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Speaker 1: The bizarro world of gentrification guilt, where the man with

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Speaker 1: the gun pointed at you isn't allowed to be scary,

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Speaker 1: but a weapon with no motive of its own is.

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Speaker 1: And the kicker comes when Baboo notes that many of

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Speaker 1: us in the group agreed that in some respects, we

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Speaker 1: identified more with our robber than with the characters we

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Speaker 1: were portrayed to be in media stories about the crime.

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Speaker 1: I took that story very personally because I grew up

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Speaker 1: in Ditmiss Park. I actually grew up there before it

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Speaker 1: was called Dit Miss Park, because that's an invention by

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Speaker 1: real estate agents to exact kind of people that had

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Speaker 2: It was a rough area when I grew up there,

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Speaker 1: Wrote that I loved seeing the neighborhood turn around in

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Speaker 1: the last fifteen years. At that point, no one made

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Speaker 1: excuses for the criminals. When I was a kid, it

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Speaker 1: was a rough area, but it was obvious that crime

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Speaker 1: was bad, and everyone said so. When a friend's grandmother

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Speaker 1: had her handbag ripped off her arm at the subway station,

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Speaker 1: when a friend was mugged of his jacket in the

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Speaker 1: middle of winter, or when bicycles were stolen constantly, no

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Speaker 1: one thought much about the thieves feelings. There were no gentrifiers. Then,

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Speaker 1: there were no high rises, no cool restaurants. Plenty of victims,

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Speaker 1: in other words, but none suitable to blame for their

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Speaker 1: own victimization. I was reminded of this story and how

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Speaker 1: much it bothered me with the recent story of people

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Speaker 1: on TikTok approvingly sharing a letter purported to be by

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Speaker 1: Bin Laden. Now I don't entirely buy that Bin Laden

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Speaker 1: wrote the letter. I remember that letter being released, you know,

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Speaker 1: I think it was November two thousand and one, shortly

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Speaker 1: after the attacks, But it really didn't make a lot

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Speaker 1: of sense to me even then that he wrote it.

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Speaker 1: It was never confirmed by any intelligence agencies. In the letter,

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Speaker 1: he's got the jew hating down and he hates gay people,

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Speaker 1: of course, but also he was mad that America pulled

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Speaker 1: out of an environmental treaty, like I just don't think so.

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Speaker 1: I'm going to have a column about this idiotic trend.

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Speaker 1: But what I want to talk about here is how

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Speaker 1: dangerous it is that self preservation is sorely missing in

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Speaker 1: these people, Much like in the people who had their

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Speaker 1: laptop stolen. They imagine that agreeing with a terrorist and

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Speaker 1: siding against their own country will save them.

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Speaker 2: It won't.

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Speaker 1: History is littered with murdered peace activists and people who

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Speaker 1: hope that the terrorists they support will kill them last

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Speaker 1: they won't. You know, the word privilege is very overused,

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Speaker 1: but all of these people are so intensely privileged. They

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Speaker 1: get to have their bad ideas, but they also subject

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Speaker 1: us to their bad ideas and the repercussion of those ideas.

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Speaker 1: I talk a lot about stating plainly your values to

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Speaker 1: your children, and now it turns out we have to add,

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Speaker 1: don't support people who will kill you, don't cover up

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Speaker 1: for people who rob you. These should be basics, but

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Speaker 1: apparently they are not. Don't support Asama bin Laden, friends,

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Speaker 1: be sure to tell your children. Coming up next and

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Speaker 1: interview with Jason Rantz join us after the break. Hi,

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Speaker 1: and welcome back to the Carol Marcowitch Show on the

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Speaker 1: klan Buck podcast Network on iHeartRadio. My guest today is

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Speaker 1: Jason Rantz. Jason is a Fox News regular talk show

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Speaker 1: host and the author of What's Killing America Inside the

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Speaker 1: Radical Left, Tragic Destruction of Our Cities.

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Speaker 2: Hi, Jason, so nice to have you.

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Speaker 3: Thank you so much for me.

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Speaker 2: I'm reading your book right now and I love it.

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Speaker 1: Can you tell our audience a little bit about what

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Speaker 1: it's about and what you hope to achieve with it.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, As the title suggests, it's about what I think

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Speaker 4: is destroying our American cities. As I started to do

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Speaker 4: a lot of my research for my Fox News hits

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Speaker 4: but also from my radio show, is looking at other cities,

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Speaker 4: not just Seattle, and I was noticing the same consequences

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Speaker 4: to the same in some cases, the exact same policies.

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Speaker 4: And I recognized that what people understood that something was

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Speaker 4: wrong wherever they live, that they were aware of the

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Speaker 4: crime stories. When they take their kid to a park,

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Speaker 4: they recognize that it's overcome with homeless. The drug addiction

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Speaker 4: problem is out of controlling it. Weirdly, at the exact

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Speaker 4: same time they're spending way more money living in these cities.

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Speaker 3: They didn't know the why. They had maybe a.

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Speaker 4: General sense, but they didn't really know what policies were

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Speaker 4: driving this, what radical beliefs were driving this, and even

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Speaker 4: the who behind who was driving all of these different policies.

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Speaker 4: And in large part, I believe it's because there's coded

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Speaker 4: language that radicals use that make it sound when their

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Speaker 4: policies are really intentionionate and really about helping the community,

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Speaker 4: when in fact they're just ideologically driven positions that are

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Speaker 4: meant to dismantle various systems of oppression. And so I

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Speaker 4: wanted to write this book to alert people to what's

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Speaker 4: going on behind the scenes, what's happening right in front

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Speaker 4: of them, and they don't realize it because I don't

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Speaker 4: want to happen to them.

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Speaker 3: What's happening in San.

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Speaker 4: Francisco, which is folks woke up and they recognized that

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Speaker 4: their DA was way too far to the left, chest Aboudine,

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Speaker 4: so they recalled him. They recognized that their school board

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Speaker 4: recalled them. And these were liberals, right, these were progressives

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Speaker 3: Live in San Francisco. But unfortunately they woke up too late.

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Speaker 4: San Francisco is not going to recover in any meaningful

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Speaker 1: So it's interesting that you say that people realize it's

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Speaker 1: I moved to Florida almost two years ago, and it was,

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Speaker 2: I grew up in New York in.

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Speaker 1: You know, the eighties, and it was much higher crime

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Speaker 1: before it got to that point, it was very easy

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Speaker 1: Antifa here. So I wanted to ask you, I guess

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Speaker 3: Well, I mean, it's a combination of all of what

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Speaker 4: So on the one hand, because crime has gotten so

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Speaker 4: The folks who recognize what's going on, but they justify

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Speaker 4: But in the long term, if you only truly subscribe

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Speaker 4: to understand how the left argues the language that they use.

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Speaker 2: So what can be done to stop drug deaths?

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Speaker 4: think at the bottom of the story it says and

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Speaker 4: by the way, this is a result of a policy

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Speaker 4: that was passed two years No, of course not. And

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Speaker 4: so people don't even understand that that's going on. You

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Speaker 4: and I we spend all day consuming news that our jobs, right,

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Speaker 4: we study this stuff.

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Speaker 3: We're aware of the where nerds will.

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Speaker 4: Watch and read somebody, Yeah, you know, we know the

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Speaker 4: policies and what yet, But the average person, they've got

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Speaker 4: their own lives, jobs, kids. It's just really hard to

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Speaker 4: keep up with all of the stuff. And so I

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Speaker 4: don't blame them. I blame the local media. And I'm

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Speaker 4: a member of the local media obviously, But I'm not

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Speaker 4: reliant on my access to some lawmaker, Like I don't

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Speaker 4: care if I ever interview any Democrat lawmaker. That's not

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Speaker 4: what I do. I'll take the interview, but I don't

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Speaker 4: need it. So I'm able to put that stuff out

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Speaker 4: there without fear that they're going to you know, blacklist

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Speaker 4: me don't know, but others are, and that's that means

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Speaker 4: they're not getting all the information that they need. So

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Speaker 4: I take them upon me to make sure that I'm

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Speaker 4: doing at least my part and getting that information out there.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, a question that I ask all of my guests,

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Speaker 1: and I think it. You know, you've probably answered a

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Speaker 1: lot of this already, but what do you think is

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Speaker 1: our largest culture or societal problem in America?

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Speaker 2: And is it solvable?

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Speaker 4: I think narcissism is the biggest problem that's facing our society.

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Speaker 2: It is crime.

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Speaker 4: I know you did, but here's it's all connected to narcissism.

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Speaker 4: Narcissism is behind a lot of what the radicals believe,

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Speaker 4: right this this belief in themselves that they know better

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Speaker 4: than everybody else, that their viewpoint and feelings are factual,

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Speaker 4: that there's no one who can dispute anything that they say,

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Speaker 4: or do or believe. And I think that that level

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Speaker 4: of narcissism, which has been especially potent amongst a younger generation,

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Speaker 4: and frankly, our generation, you and I think are the

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Speaker 4: same age. Our agent younger have been incredibly narcissistic and

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Speaker 4: no one has said anything to them. This entire time,

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Speaker 4: and so they've become emboldened and they ended up organizing,

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Speaker 4: and they're the ones who are bullying people who disagree

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Speaker 4: with them, calling them name, shout their will. And when

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Speaker 4: you have those kinds of people in power, they end

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Speaker 4: up passing a bunch of policies that lead to rises

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Speaker 4: in crime, more illegal immigration, and education system that's completely

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Speaker 4: out of control. And so I would say, if we

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Speaker 4: address that narcissism problem in this country amongst a certain

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Speaker 4: generation of folks, we would probably see a lot better results.

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Speaker 2: So interesting, Thank you.

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Speaker 1: I really I like having an answer like that for

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Speaker 1: me to think about.

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Speaker 2: So how's the book doing? Are we moving towards change?

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Speaker 4: I mean, we're slowly moving towards change. Again, I'm completely

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Speaker 4: reliant on conservative media, so I especially love everyone who

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Speaker 4: allows me to talk a little bit about the book

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Speaker 4: and then really just conservative stepping up and supporting this book,

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Speaker 4: supporting your book, supporting the authors who are trying to

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Speaker 4: make a difference. And we've seen good results so far.

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Speaker 4: I'm happy with the direction that the book is going.

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Speaker 4: But I'm always the person who wants to sell way

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Speaker 4: more and do way better than I am, so.

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Speaker 3: I always encourage people to go out and get them book.

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Speaker 4: It's on sale right now on Amazon and Walmart dot com,

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Speaker 4: so go ahead and buy it.

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Speaker 2: Awesome. So do you feel like you've made it?

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Speaker 1: You're you know, you're a talk show host, You're on

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Speaker 1: TV all the time, you have a great book?

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Speaker 2: Are you there?

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Speaker 4: I never feel like I make it. I perpetually have

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Speaker 4: a chip on my shoulder, which emotionally and mentally probably

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Speaker 4: deeply unhealthy, but also is a driving force behind the

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Speaker 4: work that I do. So I'm I'm a workaholic. I'm

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Speaker 4: married to my work right now. During COVID, I sort

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Speaker 4: of stepped back and said, Okay, I'm going to just

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Speaker 4: commit to my career. And that's when I saw all

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Speaker 4: the growth that I saw.

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Speaker 3: I got the book deal, I'm.

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Speaker 4: On Fox all the time, I got a successful radio

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Speaker 4: show and podcast. But I always want more, and I

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Speaker 4: never want to be last to a story or second

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Speaker 4: to a story.

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Speaker 3: So I'm constantly pushing.

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Speaker 4: Myself to do a lot more, which makes me incredibly

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Speaker 4: difficult to be around at times.

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Speaker 3: But that is that is the life that I've chosen

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Speaker 3: for it.

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Speaker 2: That's right. I love that.

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Speaker 1: So end with a tip for our listeners on how

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Speaker 1: they can improve their lives.

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Speaker 3: You can.

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Speaker 4: I'm going to sound like old man rants here for

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Speaker 4: a moment, specifically for the younger generation and some adults

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Speaker 4: who take this position, get your ass to the office,

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Speaker 4: get to work, actually do your job. Stop with this

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Speaker 4: work life balance where you want more of the life

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Speaker 4: part than the work part, because that's not balance at all.

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Speaker 4: We started about a decade or so ago really leaning

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Speaker 4: into the work life balance conversation. And while I certainly

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Speaker 4: don't wish to go back for everyone, I don't want

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Speaker 4: me to go back to a place where you're working

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Speaker 4: fourteen hours a day, you're getting home, eating dinner, going

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Speaker 4: to bed, and then working in the next day. Like

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Speaker 4: that's not the position. I mean, I'm doing that, but

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Speaker 4: I don't want everybody to do it. This doesn't work

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Speaker 4: for everyone, right, But I'm so sick and tired of

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Speaker 4: the folks who constantly demand more money, more perks, less responsibility,

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Speaker 4: less hours, always asking for or something.

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Speaker 3: Just work.

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Speaker 4: And when you work and you're actually good at what

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Speaker 4: you do, and working get you to a place where

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Speaker 4: you're good at what you're doing, you will start to

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Speaker 4: see success. So stop complaining all the time. Put your

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Speaker 4: head down, do the work, and you'll start to see

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Speaker 4: some successes and be okay to make mistakes along the way,

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Speaker 4: because I mean, I don't make mistakes because I'm perfect,

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Speaker 4: but everybody else, you know, make mistakes. It's okay to

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Speaker 4: make mistakes.

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Speaker 2: Thank you so much, Jason. That was perfect, Jason Rant.

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Speaker 1: The book is called What's Killing America Inside the Radical

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Speaker 1: Lefts Tragic Destruction of our Cities. Buy it anywhere you

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Speaker 1: get your books. Thanks so much for joining us on

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Speaker 1: the Carol Markowitz Show. Subscribe wherever you get your podcasts.