1 00:00:16,800 --> 00:00:19,079 Speaker 1: Welcome to jag Zam this morning on tenhani seasons. Brian 2 00:00:19,160 --> 00:00:20,439 Speaker 1: Sexton John Osier with me. 3 00:00:20,480 --> 00:00:21,119 Speaker 2: It's week four. 4 00:00:21,160 --> 00:00:23,160 Speaker 1: The Jaguars are two and one and they're heading out 5 00:00:23,200 --> 00:00:25,400 Speaker 1: on the road to San Francisco this week to take 6 00:00:25,440 --> 00:00:25,760 Speaker 1: on the. 7 00:00:25,720 --> 00:00:27,120 Speaker 3: Three and forty nine ers. 8 00:00:27,200 --> 00:00:28,960 Speaker 1: Let's go over some of our big things for you, 9 00:00:28,960 --> 00:00:32,120 Speaker 1: brought to you by de EHJA Government Employees Health Association. 10 00:00:32,560 --> 00:00:34,879 Speaker 1: Big Thing number one is dropped the ball. The Jaguars 11 00:00:34,920 --> 00:00:38,040 Speaker 1: got the win last week against their division rival Detections, 12 00:00:38,080 --> 00:00:40,559 Speaker 1: but they dropped the ball quite a few times in 13 00:00:40,600 --> 00:00:41,199 Speaker 1: that matchup. 14 00:00:41,240 --> 00:00:44,040 Speaker 3: That's something we've seen an issue with throughout the first 15 00:00:44,040 --> 00:00:46,280 Speaker 3: couple of games. Brian, how do they fix this? 16 00:00:46,440 --> 00:00:48,360 Speaker 1: Is it just getting some extra reps of the judge 17 00:00:48,400 --> 00:00:48,960 Speaker 1: machine or what? 18 00:00:49,240 --> 00:00:50,000 Speaker 4: It's a mental thing. 19 00:00:50,040 --> 00:00:52,960 Speaker 5: Listen, you don't go from Friday playing high school bawl 20 00:00:53,000 --> 00:00:55,880 Speaker 5: to Saturday playing college ball to Sunday playing Pro Bowl 21 00:00:56,400 --> 00:00:58,200 Speaker 5: by just being able to catch the ball. 22 00:00:58,240 --> 00:00:59,560 Speaker 4: You're darn good at it. 23 00:01:00,360 --> 00:01:03,680 Speaker 5: The reasons why right now nobody has laid out, so. 24 00:01:03,600 --> 00:01:05,800 Speaker 4: I'll just say it. It's not a physical thing. It's 25 00:01:05,840 --> 00:01:06,440 Speaker 4: a mental thing. 26 00:01:06,880 --> 00:01:09,959 Speaker 5: Somehow, someway, they've got to connect the hands and the 27 00:01:09,959 --> 00:01:13,120 Speaker 5: brain back together. This is something all of these guys 28 00:01:13,319 --> 00:01:15,920 Speaker 5: not only do, but they do very very well. Otherwise 29 00:01:15,959 --> 00:01:18,920 Speaker 5: they wouldn't be playing on Sunday. The coach's job this 30 00:01:19,000 --> 00:01:21,360 Speaker 5: week is to reconnect the hands to the brain. 31 00:01:22,040 --> 00:01:22,440 Speaker 4: Yeah. 32 00:01:22,520 --> 00:01:25,720 Speaker 6: I loved when Liam was asked about this on Monday 33 00:01:25,720 --> 00:01:29,360 Speaker 6: and he kind of smiled. Every coach I've evercovered has 34 00:01:29,520 --> 00:01:32,959 Speaker 6: always been asked about drive passes. They tried to give answers, 35 00:01:33,080 --> 00:01:36,800 Speaker 6: and really, the realities, you don't know. Consentration has to 36 00:01:36,800 --> 00:01:39,520 Speaker 6: go up sometimes a circumstance, and sometimes you just have 37 00:01:39,600 --> 00:01:42,759 Speaker 6: to catch the leaping ball. And that's really where you're 38 00:01:42,760 --> 00:01:46,200 Speaker 6: at right now. They got to catch the ball, and 39 00:01:46,640 --> 00:01:50,640 Speaker 6: the problem is, right now it's holding so much back. 40 00:01:50,800 --> 00:01:53,040 Speaker 6: They could be so much more efficient offensively when they 41 00:01:53,080 --> 00:01:54,320 Speaker 6: do it. I think they will do it, but they 42 00:01:54,320 --> 00:01:54,760 Speaker 6: have to do it. 43 00:01:55,280 --> 00:01:57,320 Speaker 3: Leep. Yeah, I think that's fair enough to say. 44 00:01:57,560 --> 00:01:59,360 Speaker 1: We're gonna move on to a second big thing, which 45 00:01:59,400 --> 00:02:01,920 Speaker 1: is the dec The defense has been dominant so far 46 00:02:02,080 --> 00:02:04,960 Speaker 1: for the Jags. Through these first couple of matchups. They've 47 00:02:04,960 --> 00:02:07,120 Speaker 1: already gotten to their. 48 00:02:06,960 --> 00:02:08,679 Speaker 3: Takeaway total of all of last year. 49 00:02:08,720 --> 00:02:11,680 Speaker 1: They've gotten more interceptions than we saw last season. John, 50 00:02:11,800 --> 00:02:14,359 Speaker 1: is this just a case of defense does well early 51 00:02:14,400 --> 00:02:16,480 Speaker 1: in the season or is this something we can expect. 52 00:02:16,120 --> 00:02:16,720 Speaker 3: Throughout the year. 53 00:02:16,840 --> 00:02:18,000 Speaker 4: Well, they're catching the ball. 54 00:02:18,480 --> 00:02:21,600 Speaker 3: So they have that figured out receivers. 55 00:02:22,240 --> 00:02:24,600 Speaker 6: You know, it's been three a game. Three a game 56 00:02:24,919 --> 00:02:27,200 Speaker 6: translates out to fifty one, and that's up there with 57 00:02:27,320 --> 00:02:29,400 Speaker 6: all time, So I don't think it's going to happen 58 00:02:29,800 --> 00:02:32,280 Speaker 6: like this all season. But I do think the way 59 00:02:32,280 --> 00:02:38,200 Speaker 6: they play, they're getting leads, they've only trailed eighteen seconds. 60 00:02:38,200 --> 00:02:40,680 Speaker 6: That helps you get turnover. The other team's under pressure, 61 00:02:41,120 --> 00:02:43,880 Speaker 6: and they're playing a style that enables them to look 62 00:02:43,880 --> 00:02:46,840 Speaker 6: at the ball and see it, which also helps turnovers. 63 00:02:46,880 --> 00:02:50,160 Speaker 6: So I expect them, Brian, to be a very good 64 00:02:50,160 --> 00:02:53,960 Speaker 6: turnover creating team. The pace will slow because it always 65 00:02:53,960 --> 00:02:56,919 Speaker 6: does off this sort of start, but I think it's 66 00:02:56,919 --> 00:02:57,399 Speaker 6: who they are. 67 00:02:57,919 --> 00:03:02,080 Speaker 5: You know, last year, guy, the defense was historically bad, 68 00:03:02,240 --> 00:03:04,400 Speaker 5: and to hear you say the defense has been dominant 69 00:03:04,600 --> 00:03:07,520 Speaker 5: the first three weeks, it almost rings strange to me 70 00:03:07,600 --> 00:03:09,799 Speaker 5: because we talked about how bad they were last year. 71 00:03:10,120 --> 00:03:11,959 Speaker 5: But one of the reasons why it was so frustrated 72 00:03:12,040 --> 00:03:14,320 Speaker 5: was because there was some talent over there. We knew 73 00:03:14,320 --> 00:03:16,840 Speaker 5: there were guys that were capable of making plays Andrew 74 00:03:16,880 --> 00:03:20,240 Speaker 5: Anthony Campanili, bring the scheme together, ask guys to do 75 00:03:20,360 --> 00:03:22,600 Speaker 5: things that they know how to do and do very well, 76 00:03:22,880 --> 00:03:25,639 Speaker 5: and all of those puzzle pieces fit together. And when 77 00:03:25,639 --> 00:03:27,760 Speaker 5: they do, what do you get? Or you get production, 78 00:03:27,919 --> 00:03:31,240 Speaker 5: you get takeaways. You put yourself in a situation where 79 00:03:31,240 --> 00:03:33,720 Speaker 5: you can have success. I mentioned the other day, I 80 00:03:33,720 --> 00:03:35,640 Speaker 5: think this team has a chance to be the fourth 81 00:03:35,720 --> 00:03:39,120 Speaker 5: Jaguars defense in franchise history with at least thirty takeaways 82 00:03:39,120 --> 00:03:40,960 Speaker 5: in the season. It helps when you get nine in 83 00:03:41,000 --> 00:03:44,000 Speaker 5: the first three games. John's right. The pace will obviously slow, 84 00:03:44,320 --> 00:03:46,320 Speaker 5: but it's been a consistent part of who they are 85 00:03:46,360 --> 00:03:48,320 Speaker 5: the first three weeks, So even if they're just getting 86 00:03:48,360 --> 00:03:50,640 Speaker 5: one a game or two, it puts them in a 87 00:03:50,640 --> 00:03:54,160 Speaker 5: position to be among the better defenses we've seen in Jacksonville. 88 00:03:54,440 --> 00:03:56,640 Speaker 1: Certainly have a good head start on that for sure. 89 00:03:56,840 --> 00:03:58,520 Speaker 1: Our final big thing today is going to be on 90 00:03:58,560 --> 00:04:00,720 Speaker 1: the road. They're having out on the road the West Coast, 91 00:04:00,800 --> 00:04:03,240 Speaker 1: which has been a challenge for this team. I looked 92 00:04:03,320 --> 00:04:06,680 Speaker 1: up the records they're owing to at San Francisco, four 93 00:04:06,760 --> 00:04:08,440 Speaker 1: and eleven in the state of California. 94 00:04:08,480 --> 00:04:10,200 Speaker 3: Brian, what is it going to take to get a win. 95 00:04:10,480 --> 00:04:13,800 Speaker 5: On their red Three of those wins obviously came in Oakland, 96 00:04:13,840 --> 00:04:16,960 Speaker 5: including the last win they had in the Bay Area 97 00:04:17,240 --> 00:04:20,600 Speaker 5: in twenty nineteen. What's it going to take takeaways? You're 98 00:04:20,600 --> 00:04:23,520 Speaker 5: gonna have to create extra possessions. These aren't the Niners 99 00:04:23,560 --> 00:04:25,240 Speaker 5: that were here two years ago. John, There's only two 100 00:04:25,279 --> 00:04:28,000 Speaker 5: guys on the defense now that Nick Bosa is injured. 101 00:04:28,160 --> 00:04:30,800 Speaker 5: Two guys who are part of that defense. But you 102 00:04:30,880 --> 00:04:33,920 Speaker 5: have Robert Sama, and he's an excellent defensive mind, so 103 00:04:33,960 --> 00:04:36,440 Speaker 5: that group will be ready to play. You got to 104 00:04:36,480 --> 00:04:38,840 Speaker 5: catch the ball, you got to create takeaways, and you've 105 00:04:38,839 --> 00:04:40,920 Speaker 5: got to take advantage of opportunities in the red zone. 106 00:04:41,000 --> 00:04:43,640 Speaker 6: Yeah, you have to stop the run too. They're a 107 00:04:43,800 --> 00:04:46,240 Speaker 6: very good team when they get up on you and 108 00:04:46,279 --> 00:04:49,280 Speaker 6: they get into their style and their rhythm. They know 109 00:04:49,320 --> 00:04:51,440 Speaker 6: how they want to play, and once they start doing it, 110 00:04:51,480 --> 00:04:54,359 Speaker 6: they're hard to get out a rhythm. And now the 111 00:04:54,400 --> 00:04:57,839 Speaker 6: quarterback has to play well. I mean in this game, 112 00:04:58,160 --> 00:04:59,960 Speaker 6: I don't know if you can overcome. 113 00:05:02,320 --> 00:05:03,880 Speaker 4: You can have a turnover, but. 114 00:05:04,839 --> 00:05:07,719 Speaker 6: It can't be a backbreaker. It can't be one where 115 00:05:08,839 --> 00:05:11,400 Speaker 6: they're going in. It can't be in the red zone. 116 00:05:11,760 --> 00:05:15,279 Speaker 6: He has to play well and keep the waters calm 117 00:05:15,400 --> 00:05:18,320 Speaker 6: throughout the game. If it gets messy, they're a really 118 00:05:18,360 --> 00:05:19,360 Speaker 6: hard team to come back. 119 00:05:19,200 --> 00:05:19,560 Speaker 4: On, you know. 120 00:05:19,600 --> 00:05:21,839 Speaker 5: K It also bears mentioned the Dutch. Time the Jaguars 121 00:05:21,880 --> 00:05:25,440 Speaker 5: played in San Francisco was twenty seventeen, and they were 122 00:05:25,440 --> 00:05:28,599 Speaker 5: a really good team that year. And the Niners were 123 00:05:28,600 --> 00:05:32,200 Speaker 5: in the first year of Shanahan as the head coach, 124 00:05:32,640 --> 00:05:34,599 Speaker 5: and they had just traded for Jimmy Garoppolo with the 125 00:05:34,600 --> 00:05:38,400 Speaker 5: team you used to cover, and it was Garoppolo's first start. 126 00:05:38,040 --> 00:05:39,120 Speaker 4: In Shanahan's offense. 127 00:05:39,400 --> 00:05:40,960 Speaker 5: And I mean, they just took a part at the 128 00:05:41,000 --> 00:05:43,840 Speaker 5: best Jaguars defense in franchise history and won forty four 129 00:05:43,880 --> 00:05:47,240 Speaker 5: to thirty three. It's because Shanahan is an excellent offensive coach. 130 00:05:47,400 --> 00:05:49,800 Speaker 5: He puts together a great game plan. So it's gonna 131 00:05:49,880 --> 00:05:53,160 Speaker 5: challenge Liam Cohen and his entire staff because I think 132 00:05:53,200 --> 00:05:56,400 Speaker 5: Shanahan's got one of the better coaching staffs in recent memory. 133 00:05:56,680 --> 00:05:59,120 Speaker 1: Certainly a tough place to play. Stay with us here 134 00:05:59,120 --> 00:06:00,920 Speaker 1: on Jagszam. Coming up after the break. We'll do a 135 00:06:00,920 --> 00:06:03,200 Speaker 1: little this or that as we look ahead to that matchup. 136 00:06:10,839 --> 00:06:12,840 Speaker 1: Jag Zam brought to you by Field's Auto Groups. See 137 00:06:12,839 --> 00:06:15,400 Speaker 1: Fields First Jacksonville's premier luxury auto group. 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We talked a 142 00:06:30,040 --> 00:06:32,480 Speaker 1: little bit about the drops that was seen from the 143 00:06:32,520 --> 00:06:35,200 Speaker 1: wide receiver groups beyond the Brown Brian Thomas Junior Parker 144 00:06:35,279 --> 00:06:36,200 Speaker 1: washtill a little bit in. 145 00:06:36,120 --> 00:06:36,680 Speaker 3: The last game. 146 00:06:37,160 --> 00:06:41,560 Speaker 1: So my thought here is Brenton Stranger most reliable target 147 00:06:41,600 --> 00:06:42,200 Speaker 1: at this point. 148 00:06:42,279 --> 00:06:46,360 Speaker 5: He is no doubt dependable, tough, the guy that when 149 00:06:46,360 --> 00:06:48,400 Speaker 5: you throw the ball, you know ninety percent. 150 00:06:48,160 --> 00:06:49,080 Speaker 4: Of the time he's gonna pull it in. 151 00:06:49,680 --> 00:06:54,839 Speaker 6: He's uh to me, Brenton Strange. There's four uber frontline 152 00:06:54,880 --> 00:06:57,720 Speaker 6: players on this team, Trayvon Walker, Josh Heinz Allen, Jordan Lewis, 153 00:06:57,720 --> 00:07:00,440 Speaker 6: and Bretton Strange. He's one of the of the core 154 00:07:00,520 --> 00:07:01,600 Speaker 6: players in this team right now. 155 00:07:01,640 --> 00:07:02,600 Speaker 4: It's high praise too. 156 00:07:02,640 --> 00:07:04,360 Speaker 5: I mean you're talking about the tight end position and 157 00:07:04,440 --> 00:07:08,000 Speaker 5: there's so many gifted receiving tight ends in this game. 158 00:07:08,360 --> 00:07:11,040 Speaker 5: I'm not sure how many guys fit his category. John 159 00:07:11,200 --> 00:07:12,440 Speaker 5: which is the complete title. 160 00:07:12,520 --> 00:07:15,360 Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, he'll never I shouldn't say never. 161 00:07:15,880 --> 00:07:19,480 Speaker 6: I don't know if he'll ever be acknowledged in a 162 00:07:19,560 --> 00:07:23,760 Speaker 6: Dorito's commercial like George Kittle or whatever Kill's commercial is, 163 00:07:24,400 --> 00:07:27,160 Speaker 6: because he's such a great blocker, and I don't know 164 00:07:27,160 --> 00:07:31,120 Speaker 6: that he's going to be a mega star receiver, but 165 00:07:31,200 --> 00:07:35,720 Speaker 6: he's a good receiver and he might be at all 166 00:07:35,760 --> 00:07:38,880 Speaker 6: the tight ends. He's the guy who could have played 167 00:07:38,920 --> 00:07:41,480 Speaker 6: in the sixties in Ben Ditka so too. 168 00:07:41,720 --> 00:07:43,440 Speaker 3: Is there a way to include him more in the 169 00:07:43,480 --> 00:07:44,360 Speaker 3: offensive game plan? 170 00:07:44,440 --> 00:07:46,200 Speaker 1: I know there's a lot of people you want to 171 00:07:46,200 --> 00:07:48,160 Speaker 1: get involved and get going, but when you have someone 172 00:07:48,320 --> 00:07:49,720 Speaker 1: sure handed as him, is there a way to get 173 00:07:49,760 --> 00:07:50,240 Speaker 1: involved more? 174 00:07:50,280 --> 00:07:54,360 Speaker 6: Yeah? I mean, I don't know if you want to 175 00:07:54,360 --> 00:07:56,920 Speaker 6: gear the offense to getting him enough targets to get 176 00:07:56,920 --> 00:07:59,800 Speaker 6: to one hundred and twenty yards. And again it's not 177 00:07:59,840 --> 00:08:03,840 Speaker 6: an knock on him, but if you gear everything toward him, 178 00:08:04,320 --> 00:08:06,320 Speaker 6: then you're shrinking the field a little bit, probably because 179 00:08:06,320 --> 00:08:10,120 Speaker 6: he's he's probably not the thirty five yard downfield, beat 180 00:08:10,160 --> 00:08:11,920 Speaker 6: the cornerback, and stretch the defense guy. 181 00:08:12,200 --> 00:08:13,440 Speaker 4: But you can get him a little more involved. 182 00:08:13,480 --> 00:08:16,480 Speaker 5: And listen, if these guys, if Brian then Parker, if 183 00:08:16,480 --> 00:08:18,240 Speaker 5: they don't catch the ball, the amy don't catch the ball. 184 00:08:18,280 --> 00:08:20,320 Speaker 5: He's going to be involved by default because that's going 185 00:08:20,360 --> 00:08:21,240 Speaker 5: to be the one guy that the. 186 00:08:21,280 --> 00:08:23,680 Speaker 4: Quarterback is going to know, I get it there, he's 187 00:08:23,680 --> 00:08:24,240 Speaker 4: going to catch it. 188 00:08:24,680 --> 00:08:29,320 Speaker 6: Also, at this stage of the season, you've got to 189 00:08:29,440 --> 00:08:33,160 Speaker 6: keep feeding BTJ, Parker, Washington these guys because you know 190 00:08:33,240 --> 00:08:36,440 Speaker 6: what you want the offense to be. And in Week 191 00:08:36,520 --> 00:08:38,120 Speaker 6: four you can't just say, well, we're not there in 192 00:08:38,160 --> 00:08:40,960 Speaker 6: the receivers anymore. We're going to be a running and 193 00:08:41,000 --> 00:08:45,280 Speaker 6: tight end team. I mentioned Ditke, it's not his league anymore. 194 00:08:46,120 --> 00:08:48,920 Speaker 1: Looking at Travis Hunter, we've seen him increase in snaps 195 00:08:48,960 --> 00:08:50,840 Speaker 1: every week. That's kind of gone along on both sides 196 00:08:50,880 --> 00:08:53,320 Speaker 1: of the football. But is there a way to get 197 00:08:53,400 --> 00:08:55,880 Speaker 1: him more involved in the offense at this point as well? 198 00:08:56,000 --> 00:08:58,559 Speaker 3: Or is he still learning that playbook? Is this something 199 00:08:58,600 --> 00:08:59,920 Speaker 3: we might see down the road. 200 00:09:00,040 --> 00:09:02,120 Speaker 6: I think they're gonna work to get him more involved 201 00:09:02,120 --> 00:09:05,040 Speaker 6: because I think like they have to. Because we saw 202 00:09:05,080 --> 00:09:09,400 Speaker 6: the play the other day, Brian the short pass one 203 00:09:09,440 --> 00:09:13,559 Speaker 6: yard game. I included it in my key plays because 204 00:09:13,600 --> 00:09:16,160 Speaker 6: it got him a field goal. Without that first down, 205 00:09:16,200 --> 00:09:18,120 Speaker 6: they don't get that drive, and in that game, field 206 00:09:18,120 --> 00:09:22,000 Speaker 6: goals are important. Nobody else on the on the roster 207 00:09:22,200 --> 00:09:25,959 Speaker 6: can do what he did twice on that play. I don't. 208 00:09:26,240 --> 00:09:27,960 Speaker 6: I think they're gonna have to work to do it 209 00:09:28,040 --> 00:09:31,480 Speaker 6: because I don't know that this year he is going 210 00:09:31,520 --> 00:09:34,960 Speaker 6: to be a top level route runner beat a guy 211 00:09:35,040 --> 00:09:38,480 Speaker 6: eighteen yards downfield on a on a great route yet, 212 00:09:39,840 --> 00:09:41,680 Speaker 6: but you have to figure out a way to have 213 00:09:41,760 --> 00:09:42,520 Speaker 6: his hands on the ball. 214 00:09:42,640 --> 00:09:45,920 Speaker 5: Well, and listen, the offensive playbook is you know, inches thick. 215 00:09:46,000 --> 00:09:49,000 Speaker 5: It changes so much when you're looking at left corner 216 00:09:49,040 --> 00:09:51,360 Speaker 5: or nickelback or wherever they play him on defense. You know, 217 00:09:51,600 --> 00:09:53,680 Speaker 5: it's a half a bach. I mean, it doesn't change. 218 00:09:53,880 --> 00:09:56,959 Speaker 5: So he's having to learn so much on the offensive side. 219 00:09:57,440 --> 00:09:59,080 Speaker 4: Yeah, here's the one thing. 220 00:09:59,120 --> 00:10:01,360 Speaker 5: You know, if the Omi Brown shoulder is going to 221 00:10:01,360 --> 00:10:03,959 Speaker 5: be a nagging problem, you have no choice. 222 00:10:04,080 --> 00:10:06,600 Speaker 4: And we don't know that yet. We'll find out later today. 223 00:10:06,760 --> 00:10:08,199 Speaker 4: You know where he is on the injury board and 224 00:10:08,280 --> 00:10:09,400 Speaker 4: if he's able to go and play. 225 00:10:09,720 --> 00:10:11,880 Speaker 5: But if the MBI can't play or is going to 226 00:10:11,920 --> 00:10:14,280 Speaker 5: be limited at all, twelve is going to have to 227 00:10:14,280 --> 00:10:15,360 Speaker 5: step out there and do more. 228 00:10:15,480 --> 00:10:18,000 Speaker 6: Yeah. And I haven't beaten the drum for Travis Hunter 229 00:10:18,080 --> 00:10:21,760 Speaker 6: a whole lot because I still want to see how 230 00:10:21,760 --> 00:10:24,319 Speaker 6: it develops. But I've gotten some emails this week from 231 00:10:24,320 --> 00:10:27,760 Speaker 6: people saying, you know, he's been a disappointment, hasn't produced. 232 00:10:28,000 --> 00:10:31,720 Speaker 6: Look on offense, he's still getting going. He's a high 233 00:10:31,840 --> 00:10:35,360 Speaker 6: end cornerback already. Yes, he I mean, and there's no 234 00:10:35,400 --> 00:10:37,920 Speaker 6: doubt in my mind. I don't know what offense will 235 00:10:38,080 --> 00:10:40,560 Speaker 6: look like for him over a ten year period. I 236 00:10:40,600 --> 00:10:42,160 Speaker 6: know what defense is going to look like. It's going 237 00:10:42,200 --> 00:10:43,320 Speaker 6: to look like an All Pro player. 238 00:10:43,520 --> 00:10:45,880 Speaker 1: Makes Steven more frustrating with that PI penalty against the 239 00:10:45,880 --> 00:10:48,000 Speaker 1: Bengals because that could have been a calling card moment, 240 00:10:48,080 --> 00:10:50,880 Speaker 1: you know, ends the game and shows what he's been 241 00:10:50,920 --> 00:10:53,680 Speaker 1: on defense that we've seen as well. And Trebis let's 242 00:10:53,679 --> 00:10:55,959 Speaker 1: look at the defense a little bit. Jordan Lewis tremendous. 243 00:10:56,040 --> 00:10:57,000 Speaker 1: Can't say enough good. 244 00:10:56,840 --> 00:10:59,240 Speaker 3: Things about him, leader on and off the field. Is 245 00:10:59,240 --> 00:11:01,480 Speaker 3: he the best free addition? Is he up there with 246 00:11:01,559 --> 00:11:03,520 Speaker 3: the best free agent editions this franchise have had? 247 00:11:03,679 --> 00:11:06,240 Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean number one is clearly Kalais Campbell from 248 00:11:06,480 --> 00:11:11,360 Speaker 5: two thousand and what usually be coming in seventeen seventeen. Yeah, 249 00:11:11,720 --> 00:11:13,640 Speaker 5: for SACS in his first game, fourteen and a half 250 00:11:13,679 --> 00:11:17,440 Speaker 5: is a single season franchise record in that season and 251 00:11:17,520 --> 00:11:18,640 Speaker 5: of course he gave you, you know. 252 00:11:18,640 --> 00:11:20,880 Speaker 4: Three really good years. He was an All Pro player. 253 00:11:21,760 --> 00:11:25,360 Speaker 5: If he approaches the single season record for interceptions, which 254 00:11:25,360 --> 00:11:28,319 Speaker 5: is eight, held by Rasheen Mappis, then you could talk 255 00:11:28,320 --> 00:11:31,480 Speaker 5: about him in the same category. That's a high bard 256 00:11:31,559 --> 00:11:33,240 Speaker 5: hit though eight interceptions is a lot. 257 00:11:33,480 --> 00:11:36,360 Speaker 6: Yeah, and I think he's gonna be in the group. 258 00:11:37,840 --> 00:11:40,679 Speaker 6: Keenan McCardell was a free agent, Yeah, but Leon seous 259 00:11:40,679 --> 00:11:43,520 Speaker 6: he was a free agent. Kalais Campbell was a free agent. 260 00:11:44,000 --> 00:11:46,640 Speaker 6: I would put those guys and I'm probably even somebody 261 00:11:46,679 --> 00:11:49,760 Speaker 6: out because I wasn't here during the ten years or 262 00:11:49,760 --> 00:11:54,160 Speaker 6: I wasn't here. But Jordan Lewis in terms of reshaping 263 00:11:54,880 --> 00:11:59,640 Speaker 6: a position group and even a defense and being an 264 00:11:59,640 --> 00:12:04,960 Speaker 6: immediate leader, that's where he's on a par with kalaias 265 00:12:04,960 --> 00:12:06,800 Speaker 6: they already had leaders in the nine he's been Keenan 266 00:12:06,800 --> 00:12:09,040 Speaker 6: and and Leon got here. 267 00:12:09,800 --> 00:12:11,400 Speaker 4: Jordan Lewis has. 268 00:12:11,880 --> 00:12:16,360 Speaker 6: Unbelievably, to an unbelievable degree, become a leader and a 269 00:12:16,800 --> 00:12:18,360 Speaker 6: identity guy on this team. 270 00:12:18,760 --> 00:12:22,000 Speaker 5: Listen, he gives him the opportunity because of his attitude 271 00:12:22,040 --> 00:12:24,640 Speaker 5: and the leadership that he has to be one of 272 00:12:24,640 --> 00:12:27,160 Speaker 5: those teams with thirty more takeaways right ninety nine, two 273 00:12:27,200 --> 00:12:30,559 Speaker 5: thousand and seven, twenty seventeen. If they hit that plateau, 274 00:12:31,160 --> 00:12:33,800 Speaker 5: then they go into one of the better defenses this 275 00:12:33,840 --> 00:12:37,000 Speaker 5: franchise has ever had. And I think it's his attitude 276 00:12:37,040 --> 00:12:39,240 Speaker 5: and his leadership where he said to these guys in 277 00:12:39,280 --> 00:12:42,080 Speaker 5: training camp, Kai, I don't care what happened last year. 278 00:12:42,360 --> 00:12:44,080 Speaker 4: Were better than that, and we're going to be that 279 00:12:44,120 --> 00:12:44,720 Speaker 4: way on the field. 280 00:12:44,800 --> 00:12:47,200 Speaker 6: And by the way, all the guys I mentioned, I 281 00:12:47,240 --> 00:12:50,960 Speaker 6: would put maybe not in the pride, but in the 282 00:12:51,000 --> 00:12:54,360 Speaker 6: group of great players in this franchise history, great teammates. These 283 00:12:54,400 --> 00:12:56,760 Speaker 6: guys would all those guys would love to play with 284 00:12:56,840 --> 00:12:57,400 Speaker 6: Jordan Lewis. 285 00:12:57,480 --> 00:13:00,000 Speaker 3: Oh. Absolutely, stay with us here on Jagsam. 286 00:13:00,080 --> 00:13:02,080 Speaker 1: After the break, we'll go over some of the headlines 287 00:13:02,120 --> 00:13:14,320 Speaker 1: around the NFL. For twelve years, Dreamfinders Homes have been 288 00:13:14,320 --> 00:13:16,160 Speaker 1: proud to call themselves the official home builder of the 289 00:13:16,200 --> 00:13:19,320 Speaker 1: Jacksonville Jaguars. Is a Dreamfinders dot com to find all 290 00:13:19,400 --> 00:13:20,559 Speaker 1: of the available. 291 00:13:20,160 --> 00:13:26,199 Speaker 3: Inventory and go Jags. Welcome back into jags Am. We're 292 00:13:26,200 --> 00:13:29,959 Speaker 3: looking ahead to this matchup in Week four in San Francisco. 293 00:13:30,120 --> 00:13:32,240 Speaker 3: A lot of injuries for the forty nine ers. 294 00:13:32,080 --> 00:13:34,400 Speaker 1: That'll probably be some of them will game time decisions, 295 00:13:34,400 --> 00:13:36,280 Speaker 1: what they do with the quarterback whatnot. But we do 296 00:13:36,400 --> 00:13:38,760 Speaker 1: know now that Nick Bosa has torn his ACL, so 297 00:13:38,800 --> 00:13:40,720 Speaker 1: he's gone undergoing surgery. He will miss the rest of 298 00:13:40,760 --> 00:13:45,040 Speaker 1: this season. And he had this team in fits last 299 00:13:45,040 --> 00:13:48,040 Speaker 1: time they were here and that blowout win at Everybank Stadium. 300 00:13:48,040 --> 00:13:49,199 Speaker 1: I think he had one or two one and a 301 00:13:49,200 --> 00:13:52,760 Speaker 1: half or two sacks in that game. And timing for us, 302 00:13:52,920 --> 00:13:55,720 Speaker 1: I mean, very unfortunate, but he runs that defense and 303 00:13:55,760 --> 00:13:58,280 Speaker 1: that's good for the Jaguars, not great for both of 304 00:13:58,320 --> 00:13:58,839 Speaker 1: to miss the year. 305 00:13:58,920 --> 00:14:01,240 Speaker 5: Wherever he lined up that day, he had to tackle 306 00:14:01,640 --> 00:14:03,600 Speaker 5: three yards heap in the backfield on the snap of 307 00:14:03,600 --> 00:14:03,880 Speaker 5: the ball. 308 00:14:04,000 --> 00:14:07,679 Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean, he's a great player who his career 309 00:14:07,920 --> 00:14:12,360 Speaker 6: is now being defined by injuries, meaning when he's on 310 00:14:12,400 --> 00:14:16,200 Speaker 6: the field, he's fantastic and like a lot of that team, 311 00:14:16,360 --> 00:14:20,840 Speaker 6: that team, it is one of the more injury played 312 00:14:21,400 --> 00:14:25,240 Speaker 6: teams and I had injured. They are phenomenal. I still 313 00:14:25,240 --> 00:14:28,240 Speaker 6: think they're phenomenal, but we don't have Nick Bosa on 314 00:14:28,240 --> 00:14:29,120 Speaker 6: the field. It's a different team. 315 00:14:29,160 --> 00:14:30,800 Speaker 4: This is a second ACL. He had one of twenty 316 00:14:30,800 --> 00:14:32,800 Speaker 4: twin too well, so. 317 00:14:32,720 --> 00:14:33,600 Speaker 3: That makes it tough. 318 00:14:33,680 --> 00:14:36,600 Speaker 1: I will say though, as much as they are oft injured, 319 00:14:36,640 --> 00:14:39,640 Speaker 1: you know McCaffrey as well, they step up and find 320 00:14:39,640 --> 00:14:42,040 Speaker 1: ways to win without and we've seen it so far 321 00:14:43,000 --> 00:14:44,960 Speaker 1: with Mac Jones coming in a couple of games and 322 00:14:44,960 --> 00:14:45,600 Speaker 1: getting them a win. 323 00:14:45,640 --> 00:14:48,560 Speaker 3: They're three and zero right now, so they find a way. 324 00:14:48,720 --> 00:14:52,840 Speaker 5: Mac said that he wanted to play with Shanahan, and 325 00:14:53,080 --> 00:14:55,600 Speaker 5: I set it off the top. Kyle Shanahan is a 326 00:14:55,640 --> 00:14:58,640 Speaker 5: guy I like to watch the Niners just because he's 327 00:14:58,640 --> 00:15:01,680 Speaker 5: so clever. There are so many different things that he does. 328 00:15:01,720 --> 00:15:03,160 Speaker 5: And of course his dad, when he was the coach 329 00:15:03,200 --> 00:15:05,640 Speaker 5: of the Broncos back in the nineties, was known for 330 00:15:05,680 --> 00:15:08,840 Speaker 5: that as well. I think he's an excellent offensive mind, 331 00:15:09,000 --> 00:15:11,760 Speaker 5: fun to watch, creates mismatches. I told you about that 332 00:15:11,800 --> 00:15:14,400 Speaker 5: day in twenty seventeen that was not as good a 333 00:15:14,400 --> 00:15:16,800 Speaker 5: team as the Jaguars that day, and yet they use 334 00:15:16,880 --> 00:15:20,480 Speaker 5: Kyle Jusak the fullback and it just turned the Jaguars 335 00:15:20,640 --> 00:15:21,640 Speaker 5: inside and out. 336 00:15:22,080 --> 00:15:24,080 Speaker 4: That was Shanahan. I think he is one of the best. 337 00:15:24,720 --> 00:15:27,520 Speaker 1: I let's check in around the AFC South. Obviously, we 338 00:15:27,600 --> 00:15:30,160 Speaker 1: played the Texans last week. Colts and Titans faced off 339 00:15:30,160 --> 00:15:31,160 Speaker 1: as well, and the Colts. 340 00:15:30,920 --> 00:15:33,960 Speaker 3: Are now three and oh. Titans are continuing to struggle, 341 00:15:33,960 --> 00:15:36,960 Speaker 3: obviously with their rookie quarterback and some other issues over there. 342 00:15:37,040 --> 00:15:40,680 Speaker 6: But the Colts, for real, job, you know, they're three 343 00:15:40,720 --> 00:15:44,360 Speaker 6: and oh and they have a quarterback who is functioning 344 00:15:44,360 --> 00:15:49,400 Speaker 6: at a high level. I have not watched him enough 345 00:15:49,520 --> 00:15:52,800 Speaker 6: to know it is. He is sending into the upper 346 00:15:52,840 --> 00:15:55,320 Speaker 6: echelon his status. 347 00:15:55,400 --> 00:15:57,360 Speaker 4: Sure say that he is. 348 00:15:57,480 --> 00:16:01,320 Speaker 6: Having one of those Sam Darnold Baker Mayfield kind of resurgences. 349 00:16:02,360 --> 00:16:04,760 Speaker 6: And yeah, they're for real, and Tay find somebody and 350 00:16:04,760 --> 00:16:06,880 Speaker 6: beats them. Because they play in your division, They're gonna 351 00:16:06,880 --> 00:16:11,120 Speaker 6: play roughly the same schedule, so you know, don't let 352 00:16:11,520 --> 00:16:15,120 Speaker 6: them get too far away, because you're not always gonna 353 00:16:15,120 --> 00:16:17,080 Speaker 6: beat him here. No, even though they beat him here 354 00:16:17,120 --> 00:16:19,040 Speaker 6: ten years in a row at some way. Those things 355 00:16:19,160 --> 00:16:20,680 Speaker 6: in So, yeah, they're dangerous. 356 00:16:20,760 --> 00:16:24,160 Speaker 5: They have a good roster and the problem was they 357 00:16:24,240 --> 00:16:26,840 Speaker 5: had no quarterback play they could rely on, which put 358 00:16:26,880 --> 00:16:29,360 Speaker 5: all the pressure on Jonathan Taylor. And now all of 359 00:16:29,400 --> 00:16:32,840 Speaker 5: a sudden, Jonathan Taylor has a quarterback he's running well, 360 00:16:33,160 --> 00:16:35,480 Speaker 5: and that's unlocking the abilities of the rest of the 361 00:16:35,560 --> 00:16:37,960 Speaker 5: roster of Shane Sikin to be able to play the 362 00:16:38,000 --> 00:16:39,080 Speaker 5: game that he wants to play. 363 00:16:39,880 --> 00:16:40,960 Speaker 4: The question mark for me is. 364 00:16:40,960 --> 00:16:43,320 Speaker 5: Can Daniel Jones stay at that high level and can 365 00:16:43,400 --> 00:16:45,640 Speaker 5: Jonathan Taylor stay healthy because he's had a variety of 366 00:16:45,880 --> 00:16:47,680 Speaker 5: foot and ankle injuries that have taken him off the 367 00:16:47,720 --> 00:16:49,800 Speaker 5: field late in the season, and that's just killed the 368 00:16:49,880 --> 00:16:53,480 Speaker 5: Colts playoff hopes at all. If those two guys stay healthy, 369 00:16:54,120 --> 00:16:56,200 Speaker 5: the Colts are a really good football team and. 370 00:16:56,200 --> 00:16:56,960 Speaker 4: They can keep it going. 371 00:16:57,480 --> 00:16:59,720 Speaker 1: So since he is key for Indiana, Jones and the 372 00:17:00,520 --> 00:17:03,080 Speaker 1: you know right now leading the AFC South, all right, 373 00:17:03,160 --> 00:17:04,560 Speaker 1: say with us one more break and we'll come back. 374 00:17:04,600 --> 00:17:05,880 Speaker 3: Tell you what's coming up the rest of the week. 375 00:17:17,760 --> 00:17:19,800 Speaker 1: Jags fans, if you want customize dag wors furniture for 376 00:17:19,880 --> 00:17:21,560 Speaker 1: your homepick a zip cher, dot comor bows all the 377 00:17:21,560 --> 00:17:22,560 Speaker 1: customizable options. 378 00:17:22,680 --> 00:17:24,600 Speaker 3: Zip Chair is furniture for fans. 379 00:17:26,640 --> 00:17:32,240 Speaker 7: To win the week, finish the game, Hey, stay to connected. 380 00:17:33,160 --> 00:17:37,840 Speaker 7: We talked about BT Trevor the big time moment. Guys, 381 00:17:38,440 --> 00:17:39,160 Speaker 7: huge moment. 382 00:17:39,760 --> 00:17:43,159 Speaker 8: They go zero and we get to seven man pro 383 00:17:43,840 --> 00:17:48,320 Speaker 8: pick it up, hit a bread and butter play huge 384 00:17:48,440 --> 00:17:50,160 Speaker 8: play guys to go win the game. 385 00:17:50,440 --> 00:17:52,520 Speaker 2: Here we go. JAG's have it on the left, hash 386 00:17:53,320 --> 00:17:56,359 Speaker 2: shotgun for Trevor Lawrence on the forty four yard line, 387 00:17:57,440 --> 00:18:02,440 Speaker 2: five man front for Houston. Now they're changing the play, 388 00:18:02,520 --> 00:18:07,520 Speaker 2: apparently dropping his Trevor looking fires middle of the field. 389 00:18:07,560 --> 00:18:13,000 Speaker 7: That was taught thirty five thirty twenty five twenty Bryan Thomas. 390 00:18:13,920 --> 00:18:16,280 Speaker 2: Then it's the first down near the ten yard line 391 00:18:16,600 --> 00:18:18,000 Speaker 2: of the Houston Texas. 392 00:18:18,400 --> 00:18:19,480 Speaker 5: How good is that. 393 00:18:22,200 --> 00:18:23,760 Speaker 6: You play? Where did keep play? 394 00:18:26,160 --> 00:18:30,600 Speaker 2: Replace at the running back? Trevor under center? They gave 395 00:18:30,720 --> 00:18:32,560 Speaker 2: us the Travis etn picks his way to the pop. 396 00:18:32,800 --> 00:18:34,520 Speaker 2: He's gonna walk into the end zone. 397 00:18:36,800 --> 00:18:42,200 Speaker 1: That's a lot of mass. 398 00:18:42,400 --> 00:18:43,040 Speaker 8: Make the last one. 399 00:18:43,520 --> 00:18:48,600 Speaker 3: I know. That's what's a hoop matter. 400 00:18:49,119 --> 00:18:52,520 Speaker 7: With the resiliency, the way that you guys are continue 401 00:18:52,560 --> 00:18:57,919 Speaker 7: in the state, connected through difficult adversity. Nobody pointing the finger. 402 00:18:58,440 --> 00:19:02,200 Speaker 8: So really proud the way you guys played, man, really proud, 403 00:19:02,640 --> 00:19:04,640 Speaker 8: So congratulations to you guys. 404 00:19:05,160 --> 00:19:07,960 Speaker 1: All right, picle moment. 405 00:19:08,000 --> 00:19:10,360 Speaker 3: If you go behind the scenes there, natory check out 406 00:19:10,359 --> 00:19:12,159 Speaker 3: founds of the game. We'll have more on that. But 407 00:19:12,280 --> 00:19:13,520 Speaker 3: to get into the team meeting. 408 00:19:13,400 --> 00:19:15,520 Speaker 1: Kind of see them talk down obviously, you know Trevor 409 00:19:16,560 --> 00:19:18,919 Speaker 1: checked out of that play and kind of set it up. 410 00:19:19,520 --> 00:19:22,480 Speaker 1: Played to Brian Thomas Junior going back to his old 411 00:19:22,560 --> 00:19:25,040 Speaker 1: stand by number one. Maybe he hasn't been making the plays, 412 00:19:25,080 --> 00:19:26,600 Speaker 1: but he made it when it counted and they won 413 00:19:26,680 --> 00:19:28,240 Speaker 1: the game, so there's something to be said for that. 414 00:19:28,359 --> 00:19:30,200 Speaker 1: And just seeing them all kind of rally around Brian 415 00:19:30,280 --> 00:19:33,840 Speaker 1: has been great as well, so hopefully get things back rolling. 416 00:19:33,920 --> 00:19:37,440 Speaker 5: Liam Collen is radically transparent. I mean he tells you everything. 417 00:19:37,480 --> 00:19:39,879 Speaker 5: He tells you things you don't ask him because that's. 418 00:19:39,760 --> 00:19:40,320 Speaker 4: Who he is. 419 00:19:41,040 --> 00:19:43,399 Speaker 5: He's got to buy John. He's got the type of 420 00:19:43,440 --> 00:19:45,119 Speaker 5: communicator he is, the type of leader he is. The 421 00:19:45,160 --> 00:19:47,640 Speaker 5: play caller is obviously something that we have seen from 422 00:19:47,720 --> 00:19:51,760 Speaker 5: his time at Tampa. You know, translate over here. He's 423 00:19:51,840 --> 00:19:53,879 Speaker 5: a lot of fun to watch and a lot of 424 00:19:53,960 --> 00:19:57,600 Speaker 5: hope for what this program will become based on his guidance. 425 00:19:57,800 --> 00:19:59,960 Speaker 6: Yeah. I know I've said it before, but if you're 426 00:20:00,119 --> 00:20:03,600 Speaker 6: watching this, don't take for granted what you just saw. 427 00:20:03,640 --> 00:20:06,520 Speaker 6: If you're a Jaguars fan, not many teams in the 428 00:20:06,600 --> 00:20:12,480 Speaker 6: league would let you see that. It's groundbreaking stuff, and 429 00:20:12,680 --> 00:20:15,200 Speaker 6: it does give you a chance to see what Liam 430 00:20:15,280 --> 00:20:20,359 Speaker 6: Cohen's all about. His communication level, the way he communicates 431 00:20:20,920 --> 00:20:24,040 Speaker 6: with players is very unique and high end. I think 432 00:20:24,040 --> 00:20:25,440 Speaker 6: it's what's gonna give him a chance to be a 433 00:20:25,680 --> 00:20:30,080 Speaker 6: phenomenal head coach over his career, and you know, that 434 00:20:30,280 --> 00:20:34,919 Speaker 6: may have been a very important moment for BTJ and Trevor. 435 00:20:36,240 --> 00:20:38,840 Speaker 6: They've got to prove on top of that going forward, 436 00:20:39,200 --> 00:20:41,400 Speaker 6: but that might be a turning point moment for him 437 00:20:41,680 --> 00:20:44,040 Speaker 6: and for Jaguars fans to sort of see that how 438 00:20:44,080 --> 00:20:44,760 Speaker 6: it's reacted to. 439 00:20:46,200 --> 00:20:49,600 Speaker 4: I've never seen it before and so very cool. 440 00:20:49,680 --> 00:20:51,800 Speaker 3: It's been a while. It's very cool access to get. 441 00:20:52,280 --> 00:20:53,760 Speaker 3: We'll be hearing from the team today. 442 00:20:53,920 --> 00:20:56,040 Speaker 1: I will try to see what the issues are with 443 00:20:56,200 --> 00:20:58,159 Speaker 1: Zammy Brown, whether he'll be available or not. 444 00:20:58,280 --> 00:21:00,200 Speaker 3: And then tomorrow and jag ZAM, we're gonna do some 445 00:21:00,240 --> 00:21:02,000 Speaker 3: more deep dive into the forty nine ers and see 446 00:21:02,040 --> 00:21:04,320 Speaker 3: what we can expect from that week before matchup. To 447 00:21:04,320 --> 00:21:05,600 Speaker 3: be back here and dig VAM tomorrow