Speaker 1: They were looking for a sixteen year old Italian looking
Speaker 1: girl for a show called Sopranos. I figured, oh, I could,
Speaker 1: I could look Italian. And because of the title, I
Speaker 1: assumed it was a musical because I had heard the story.
Speaker 1: I never put that together that it was because Sopranos.
Speaker 1: Did you go in? Did you go in with a
Speaker 1: song prepared? Of Well, I had tons of songs prepared
Speaker 1: all the time, but I my first audition was with
Speaker 1: Georgian Walkin. It was just the sides, and then they
Speaker 1: called me back to come the next day to read
Speaker 1: for David Chase, and I remember at the end of
Speaker 1: the audition I said to him do you need me
Speaker 1: to sing? And he said for what? And they said
Speaker 1: never right. Hi everybody, my name is Jamie Lindseigler. You
Speaker 1: probably know me best as Meato soprano from the Sopranos.
Speaker 1: And you're listening to Off the Beat. Yes, they are
Speaker 1: Jamie listening to Off the Beat. Hello everybody, and welcome
Speaker 1: to the highlight of my Tuesday every week hanging out
Speaker 1: with you guys here on Off the Beat. I am
Speaker 1: your host, Brian Baumgartner. Do I sound excited today? I'm
Speaker 1: sure that I sound excited because, as you just heard
Speaker 1: in studio today, I have Jamie Lynn Siegler. She played
Speaker 1: Meadow soprano on my all time favorite television show, The Sopranos,
Speaker 1: and I'm lucky enough to call her a friend. And
Speaker 1: I just did. I called her a friend. Jamie Lynn,
Speaker 1: of course, has done so much more than just being
Speaker 1: in the greatest show of all time. First of all,
Speaker 1: she has been acting almost her entire life since she
Speaker 1: was a little it in musicals and then on Broadway.
Speaker 1: And she was, in fact so entrenched in the musical
Speaker 1: world that, as you just heard, when she auditioned for
Speaker 1: The Sopranos, she thought it was a musical, genuinely thought
Speaker 1: that they were gonna, I don't know, sing about drug
Speaker 1: deals and breaking fingers. How does that go? Fuckget about it,
Speaker 1: forget about it. I don't know anyway we're gonna get
Speaker 1: into that story and of course lots more. All right,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna stop dilly dallying. I feel like someone someone's
Speaker 1: gonna put a hit out on me if I don't
Speaker 1: start the episode soon. So here we go. Here she
Speaker 1: is Jamie Lenn Sigler, Bubble and squeak. I love it.
Speaker 1: Bubble and squeak, Bubble and squeaker cookie every month, left
Speaker 1: over from the nut Pole. What's happening? Hi, Brian, how
Speaker 1: are you? I'm so good. How are you? I'm good?
Speaker 1: Thank you? Oh my god, it's been so long. I mean,
Speaker 1: do you remember the last time that I saw you?
Speaker 1: Was it in New York? I mean, that's a good guess.
Speaker 1: I went back to New Year's Eve in Miami. But
Speaker 1: has it been that long that I was trying to
Speaker 1: reconstruct why we were even there, who I was with. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I've spent many a New Year in Miami, so maybe
Speaker 1: that's more of a conundrum for you to figure out.
Speaker 1: I was definitely a frequent er of Miami for New
Speaker 1: Years for a while. Oh my gosh, Well, it's so
Speaker 1: good to see you. Where are you right now? I
Speaker 1: am in a Querque, New Mexico working on a show
Speaker 1: called Big Sky. I'm very We're going to talk about that.
Speaker 1: I'm very show um, but I have to have to
Speaker 1: come clean about something. I'm a COVID cliche. What does
Speaker 1: that mean? I got a dog? Okay, I didn't have
Speaker 1: a baby. I didn't have another baby, but I got
Speaker 1: a dog, right, Like that was the thing. To do
Speaker 1: and my favorite show songs. One my favorite show that
Speaker 1: I've never been involved in is The Sopranos. And I
Speaker 1: got a chocolate lab during COVID three guesses of the
Speaker 1: chocolate labs name. It's female, Okay, Meadow, Meadow, Meadow, Really,
Speaker 1: Meadow is my baby chocolate lab named in honor of
Speaker 1: kind of you, I guess, I mean definitely you. Honestly,
Speaker 1: there's no you know, you could have named or Carmela,
Speaker 1: and it could have been maybe Carmela soprano other thing,
Speaker 1: but I guess Meadow is a name that really it's
Speaker 1: only Meadow Soprano. Right, there's no other real there is
Speaker 1: no and and and in fact, the name, like I
Speaker 1: guess it, it has like a residence of like Hippienus
Speaker 1: or something like if you just ignore the fact that
Speaker 1: Meadow Soprano existed and you were like Meadow, it would
Speaker 1: be like, well, sort of like rains like ray Wills,
Speaker 1: like sort of this hippie ish nature. But no, not anymore,
Speaker 1: not anymore, quite the opposite. No, it's not all right.
Speaker 1: We're going to talk about that. But I kind of
Speaker 1: want to take you back back, like way back to
Speaker 1: where you started. You grew up in New York. Yes,
Speaker 1: on Long Island, on Long Island at Jericho, to be specific.
Speaker 1: As I understand, Yes, So at what point did you
Speaker 1: decide that you wanted to be an actor or that
Speaker 1: you wanted to pursue this UM. I was about seven
Speaker 1: or eight when I realized I really enjoyed musical theater.
Speaker 1: I wouldn't say that I thought this is what I'm
Speaker 1: gonna do with my life. But while some of my
Speaker 1: friends were getting serious about tennis or you know, other
Speaker 1: sports or activities, I just loved performing on stage. I
Speaker 1: loved watching musicals, I loved UM performing in them. So
Speaker 1: I just was on the community theater circuit on Long Island.
Speaker 1: Like anytime there was a show like Sound of Music
Speaker 1: or Fiddler in the Roof that had any kids, I
Speaker 1: was auditioning for it, and UM got to become part
Speaker 1: of a family of this theater that in Bethpage that
Speaker 1: was called Plaza Playhouse and then turned into Cultural Arts
Speaker 1: Playhouse later UM a few years down my change management.
Speaker 1: But I, from the ages of eight years old till
Speaker 1: eighteen performed in that theater multiple times a year, like
Speaker 1: it was my home away from home, and I loved it,
Speaker 1: and I would say probably when I was around thirteen,
Speaker 1: I got my first opportunity to do a professional national
Speaker 1: tour of a music and that's when my parents were like, okay,
Speaker 1: so if this is something you really want to do,
Speaker 1: you know, let's talk about it. Do we need to
Speaker 1: get to an agent, do we need to get you
Speaker 1: a manager. You have to understand the commitment. They were
Speaker 1: very strict in that if my grades dropped at all,
Speaker 1: I couldn't do this anymore, because they didn't know how
Speaker 1: long this would last. I was such a kid, and
Speaker 1: no one in my family was involved in show business
Speaker 1: by any means, so this was new to everybody. So
Speaker 1: I made the commitment. I did the tour. My grades
Speaker 1: didn't dropped. In fact, I even learned my half tora
Speaker 1: for my bot Mitzvah online by sending cassette tapes back
Speaker 1: and forth to my cantor. I was very committed. Okay,
Speaker 1: but you booked this national tour without an agent. I
Speaker 1: had like there was like a long island agent that
Speaker 1: would every once in a while get you an audition
Speaker 1: in the city for something. I never got it, but
Speaker 1: you know, it was fun to go. But that was
Speaker 1: the first time where I was like, oh, okay, you
Speaker 1: know I'm going to be actually making money. I have
Speaker 1: to leave town, you know, I have to really commit
Speaker 1: to this. And then after that I got an actual manager,
Speaker 1: an agent, and started auditioning more professionally. Okay, what was
Speaker 1: that show? It was It's a Wonderful Life the musical.
Speaker 1: I haven't seen that? Is that a class? Of course
Speaker 1: you haven't. I think I was the only time. I
Speaker 1: think it came and wet, But I played young Mary,
Speaker 1: and then I played his daughter, not the little one,
Speaker 1: Janey maybe or something like that. It was so I
Speaker 1: wasn't Zuzu. I was too old for Zuzu. Okay. So
Speaker 1: then you started auditioning for theater or for theater? Uh,
Speaker 1: you know, I would go for shoals here and there.
Speaker 1: But I remember at the time, you know, this was
Speaker 1: a different time in the business where they were very
Speaker 1: much like is she all American? Is she Latina? And
Speaker 1: I was such a mix of things. You know. My
Speaker 1: dad is from Brooklyn, He's Jewish, Greek, Romanian. My mom's
Speaker 1: Cuban and Spanish, and so I couldn't ever fit in
Speaker 1: a box. So I just really focused on musical theater
Speaker 1: because I just didn't think film or television would ever
Speaker 1: work for me because I never went anywhere for me
Speaker 1: any of the auditions, I never got any traction. And
Speaker 1: so then when Sopranos came along, I was sixteen. I
Speaker 1: feel like you know this story, probably, but all I
Speaker 1: heard was they were looking for a sixteen year old
Speaker 1: Italian looking girl for a show called Sopranos. I figured, oh,
Speaker 1: I could, I could look Italian. And because of the title,
Speaker 1: I assumed it was a musical because I had heard
Speaker 1: the story. I never put that together that it was
Speaker 1: because Sopranos. Yeah, did you go in? The song prepared?
Speaker 1: Of well, I had tons of songs prepared all the time,
Speaker 1: but I my first audition was with Georgian Walkin. It
Speaker 1: was just the sides, and then they called me back
Speaker 1: to come the next day to read for David Chase,
Speaker 1: and I remember at the end of the audition I
Speaker 1: said to him do you need me to sing? And
Speaker 1: he said for what? And they said, never mind because
Speaker 1: that was a lot. But then he did actually have
Speaker 1: metal sing in the show. I think he maybe you
Speaker 1: know or something that well that was for you? Right?
Speaker 1: Was that was that really you singing? That was you
Speaker 1: that's amazing. I just went back and watched it again,
Speaker 1: the whole thing, the whole thing start to finish. So
Speaker 1: I hear you just went and watched it the first time.
Speaker 1: Is this true? You didn't watch it when it was out. No,
Speaker 1: I think for a lot of reasons. You know, I
Speaker 1: was a self critical teenage girl, and also we were
Speaker 1: filming it and it was airing, and I was young,
Speaker 1: and it just I just didn't do it. And then
Speaker 1: as I got a little older, I felt like I
Speaker 1: needed the space. I I just I didn't want to
Speaker 1: watch it and not enjoy it. And whether that was
Speaker 1: the right decision or not, I'm actually glad I did
Speaker 1: it that way because watching it for the first time
Speaker 1: in as a thirty nine year old woman and having
Speaker 1: a more greater understanding of the world and appreciation for
Speaker 1: acting and the people that I was with, I really
Speaker 1: was able to enjoy it as an audience member as
Speaker 1: opposed to somebody that was so close to it. There
Speaker 1: was enough space, right, Yeah, it's interesting. I do you
Speaker 1: watch other things? You do? No? Not a lot. Okay,
Speaker 1: so I don't either. I've always felt sort of the
Speaker 1: same way, like I can't change it. Now, what if
Speaker 1: they chose a take I specifically did not want, like
Speaker 1: there's nothing I can do, whereas you know in theater,
Speaker 1: you come from theater. I feel like it's like if
Speaker 1: if I had the opportunity to watch every performance that
Speaker 1: I ever did, even shows I did a hundred times,
Speaker 1: I would watch it right after because the next day
Speaker 1: you have a chance to go back and do it again,
Speaker 1: that's right, and find more and find better. Yeah, so
Speaker 1: I I don't either, because it's and I don't know.
Speaker 1: It also sort of feels I don't know, like I
Speaker 1: get it. Yes, I understand, it's just like it feels
Speaker 1: weird to sit back and like, let me let me
Speaker 1: watch what I did you know? Yes, no, totally. I
Speaker 1: will tell you The Office was different for me. We
Speaker 1: watched it as a cast when it was first starting.
Speaker 1: How could you not, though, I feel like you guys
Speaker 1: had to just watch it and enjoy each other and like,
Speaker 1: because I think part of the appeal of Office, I mean,
Speaker 1: obviously it's like a great comedy and all of you
Speaker 1: are just at the top of your game and it's
Speaker 1: so amazing. But what I really enjoyed about it as
Speaker 1: well was it looked like you guys were having the
Speaker 1: best time ever. And maybe that's as an actor just
Speaker 1: knowing like, oh my god, that's just got to be
Speaker 1: the most fun job. Yes, I mean that that may
Speaker 1: be part of it. I mean there were practical things,
Speaker 1: you know, we were we were so sort of slow
Speaker 1: off the gate, you know, it took I just did
Speaker 1: the math recently. It was something like seventeen months where
Speaker 1: we had shot six episodes. Gosh, so by the time
Speaker 1: it came out, we were literally on hold waiting to
Speaker 1: see if we were coming back, and we had nothing
Speaker 1: better to do. So, Yeah, we would go to each
Speaker 1: other's houses every Tuesday or Thursday nights and we would
Speaker 1: watch it together because it was like, well, we'll probably
Speaker 1: never get to do this again. I mean, that may
Speaker 1: have been part of it. And we had so much
Speaker 1: Like you said, we had so much fun and we
Speaker 1: really enjoyed the show. But what a difficult thing for you.
Speaker 1: I mean, as one of the only kids on the show,
Speaker 1: especially with so many big and experienced personalities. Was that
Speaker 1: was that a challenge work wise? You know, at the
Speaker 1: time I would have said no, But in hindsight, I
Speaker 1: can look back. I actually just had this conversation with
Speaker 1: Robert Eiler, who played a j on the show. Where
Speaker 1: you're kind of blessed at that age, especially when you're
Speaker 1: a theater kid. You're like used to hanging with adults,
Speaker 1: You're used to doing things that aren't necessarily kid things,
Speaker 1: so you kind of just like fake it till you
Speaker 1: make it. You say you're good, you've got it. I
Speaker 1: think I was really bolstered and supported by Jim and
Speaker 1: Eatye in a lot of our scenes, and they made
Speaker 1: me feel really safe and comfortable and pushed me when
Speaker 1: they needed to gently um. But I was a people pleaser.
Speaker 1: I was like a kid that just wanted to be
Speaker 1: validated that I was doing a good job. And so
Speaker 1: that's why I say, in hindsight, I can look back
Speaker 1: and it was it was probably harder than I even
Speaker 1: realized because of I felt a lot of pressure. But
Speaker 1: I used to marvel at Robert because he never cared.
Speaker 1: He always he never He wasn't that type of actor
Speaker 1: kid where he felt like I probably did a good
Speaker 1: job and he didn't need to hear it, you know.
Speaker 1: For me, I was I was so afraid all the time,
Speaker 1: and I felt my first day of work on the pilot,
Speaker 1: I mean It was really my first time ever on
Speaker 1: a set. They had the stand ins rehearsing with the camera,
Speaker 1: and I got scared. I thought, well, what is this
Speaker 1: not really yet? Like is this girl maybe doing it too? Like?
Speaker 1: I was so green. I was so green. I had
Speaker 1: no idea of anything. But I didn't let on. I
Speaker 1: didn't say a word. I just kind of kept it
Speaker 1: in and panicked myself and until I figured, you know,
Speaker 1: how everything works. So I would say the first year
Speaker 1: or two was really hard for me, But in that moment,
Speaker 1: I wouldn't have said it was right. I mean, in
Speaker 1: thinking back, having just watched it, I guess a lot
Speaker 1: of yours, a lot of your work, especially early on,
Speaker 1: was kind of the quadrant kind of the family, you know.
Speaker 1: It wasn't at least just around those people. I just
Speaker 1: can imagine as a sixteen seventeen year old girl those
Speaker 1: scenes later on with like seventeen twenty seven, you know,
Speaker 1: older experienced men with huge personalities. That had to be
Speaker 1: a challenge, you will. Jim was really careful with me.
Speaker 1: I think one of the things I loved most about
Speaker 1: my relationship with Jim is that contrary to how I
Speaker 1: am now, where I'm very comfortable being vulnerable and open
Speaker 1: with who I am and what I'm feeling and just
Speaker 1: with life in general. I wasn't that way then, but
Speaker 1: he knew, He always knew where I was at without
Speaker 1: me having to say it, and so he could always
Speaker 1: kind of support me in that way. And I remember
Speaker 1: when we were shooting the college episode. You know, it
Speaker 1: was my first really big episode, and it was a
Speaker 1: lot of dialogue and it was a lot of stuff,
Speaker 1: and he really literally and figuratively held my hand through
Speaker 1: all of it. I remember our first scene of that
Speaker 1: episode was when I asked him if he was in
Speaker 1: the Mafia. We did an entire day in the car
Speaker 1: of all the car driving stuff, and he was really
Speaker 1: proud of me, and he was really encouraging, and no
Speaker 1: one was in the car because we were on a trailer,
Speaker 1: so the director, you know, we're talking everybody through a
Speaker 1: walking and I remember he held my hand literally at
Speaker 1: the end of one take because they were like, okay,
Speaker 1: we can move on, and he looked at me, goes, Jamie,
Speaker 1: is there anything else you feel like you want to do?
Speaker 1: And I was like, well, what do you mean. He's like,
Speaker 1: you can ask for another take. You can ask if
Speaker 1: you want to try something else, you're and I was,
Speaker 1: and I didn't know that I was able to do that.
Speaker 1: And through that whole episode, he really taught me my
Speaker 1: worth and how to you know, speak up for myself
Speaker 1: and how to like how film worked really and the
Speaker 1: collaborative experience of it all and not you're not just
Speaker 1: like this puppet that shows up and you're like, oh,
Speaker 1: I did what you wanted, okay, Like he he really, um,
Speaker 1: he really taught me a lot, and I took that
Speaker 1: with me. I think through you know, the whole season,
Speaker 1: and like you said, I mean, most of my stuff
Speaker 1: the first couple of seasons was really with the core
Speaker 1: family and especially with him, and I owe so much
Speaker 1: of everything to him and what he you know, he
Speaker 1: but he wasn't like a preachy guy or he wasn't
Speaker 1: like taking on the role like I gotta teach you
Speaker 1: the ways. He just always did it at the perfect
Speaker 1: moment right by the way, maybe your work is spectacular,
Speaker 1: maybe the greatest episode in the history of sopranos as well,
Speaker 1: So that's that's great to hear. Your relationship with him
Speaker 1: good throughout always. I mean, we all had our stuff
Speaker 1: going on personally, I mean it's ten years. You know,
Speaker 1: we all had a lot of ups and downs and stuff.
Speaker 1: But you know, like I said, he just was the
Speaker 1: guy that like he wasn't overbearing, but like he just
Speaker 1: he just had a pulse on like when to check in,
Speaker 1: when to ask. I was diagnosed with MS in the
Speaker 1: middle of the show, and I didn't tell anyone, and
Speaker 1: he just like knew something was wrong. I remember it
Speaker 1: was during the time when I can't remember what season
Speaker 1: it is, maybe four or five, when Tony's in the
Speaker 1: coma and you know, he's laying down sleeping basically all day.
Speaker 1: It was said, and I had done to seed it.
Speaker 1: I was like sitting out in the hospital hallway and
Speaker 1: he came out behind me and he like put his
Speaker 1: big hand on my shoulder and he's like hey, I'm
Speaker 1: like yeah, He's like are you okay? And I just
Speaker 1: started crying because they just I couldn't lie to him. Remember,
Speaker 1: he just took me over and you know, we had
Speaker 1: a long talk and he was just he was that
Speaker 1: guy to everybody. Though everybody on that show could have
Speaker 1: had that story with him. You know, like I said,
Speaker 1: we all had stuff going on, but he really unnecessarily
Speaker 1: took on the role as like the head of that
Speaker 1: show and really looked out for everybody. So I gotta
Speaker 1: tell you a story. Yes please, my favorite show. He
Speaker 1: I think gave the greatest performance in the history of
Speaker 1: television and a dramatic role. Just I could not be
Speaker 1: a bigger fan. And uh, there was a period of
Speaker 1: time I was playing poker. I played poker quite a
Speaker 1: bit back in the old days. We're going to Miami.
Speaker 1: We're going to Miami, and yeah, exactly for New Year's
Speaker 1: and I gave it up. Basically this is I get
Speaker 1: a note from my publicist said, I know you've given
Speaker 1: up poke. You know there's all these charity poker things
Speaker 1: and these excuses to go play poker. And she said,
Speaker 1: James Gandelfini is hosting a charity poker event for the
Speaker 1: l A Firefighters. And I said, what time do I
Speaker 1: show up? And I come in to this poker thing
Speaker 1: and I get my assignment at a table and he's
Speaker 1: sitting next to me. We're sitting at the table number one.
Speaker 1: I don't know how I got the invite to be
Speaker 1: at table number one or sitting next to him, but
Speaker 1: there there I am. So the first thing that strikes
Speaker 1: me because he's so real, was so real, unbelievable to me.
Speaker 1: He doesn't know how to play poker. He doesn't know
Speaker 1: how to play Texas holds him. I'm going, you know,
Speaker 1: my brain is like just swear. My brain is exploding,
Speaker 1: like you guys never played car. I mean I didn't
Speaker 1: say anything out loud. I'm like, oh, yes, here, let
Speaker 1: me help you, sir. And so we go back and forth,
Speaker 1: and he's betting really crazy, you know, I mean, it's
Speaker 1: all fake money. And he gets busted out immediately and
Speaker 1: he just sits there and we continue to chat. Anyway,
Speaker 1: A little bit later, I bust out and I stand
Speaker 1: up to leave, and he stands up with me, and
Speaker 1: he you talked about his his giant pol He puts
Speaker 1: his arm around me, on my shoulder, and we turn
Speaker 1: around and immediately there's like playing playing playing playing playing
Speaker 1: playing people taking picture that you know, guys who are
Speaker 1: hired for the event. And he turns to me and
Speaker 1: very casually, very much you know, in my mind, like
Speaker 1: the show. He says, um, you want to get out
Speaker 1: of here and get a drink, And I was like,
Speaker 1: this is your event, but okay, okay, we go next
Speaker 1: door and we sit there for over two hours while
Speaker 1: this charity event is happening next door, and we talk
Speaker 1: about art, and we talk about the sopranos, and we
Speaker 1: talked about the office. Now he was there was a
Speaker 1: possibility when Steve Carrell left that he was going to
Speaker 1: come on and do the show, and so there was
Speaker 1: some conversation about that, Like he was really asking me
Speaker 1: questions of out, you know, myself and what had become
Speaker 1: my identity and worries about typecasting and what you know.
Speaker 1: This is like right when the show was ending, like
Speaker 1: what I want to do now and how I want
Speaker 1: to define myself? Like basically the most incredible first date
Speaker 1: that could have existed for me. And he is about
Speaker 1: to go on a trip to Europe. We exchange information.
Speaker 1: His car pulls up and I will never ever forget
Speaker 1: he's standing there by the car and he turns around.
Speaker 1: He goes, we're gonna go to Chateau mar Mom, you
Speaker 1: want to come? And honestly, Jamie, where my brain went
Speaker 1: was I felt like a young woman on a first
Speaker 1: date that the date had gone really well and I
Speaker 1: didn't want to screw up the date, and I didn't
Speaker 1: want to I didn't want to. I didn't want the date.
Speaker 1: I didn't want to say, well, I didn't want to
Speaker 1: put out or I didn't want to like screw something
Speaker 1: up or whatever. And you know, he had a young child.
Speaker 1: I had a young child. And I said, no, no,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go home. But you know, i'll see you
Speaker 1: when you're back from Europe. I looked this morning. I
Speaker 1: texted him in about a month later. I didn't know
Speaker 1: how long he was going. I texted him. I still
Speaker 1: have it on my phone. You know how nice it
Speaker 1: was to meet him and when he was back and
Speaker 1: we can either get the kids together or not and
Speaker 1: have a drink, and um he died that week. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it was the greatest thing for me to have that
Speaker 1: experience and also like the most heartbreaking thing because I
Speaker 1: thought this was just the beginning. This was just the beginning,
Speaker 1: and then it just all ended too soon. And I
Speaker 1: can't imagine how that must have been for you during
Speaker 1: that time. Thanks for sharing that story. I loved hearing it.
Speaker 1: And it's like that conversation you're telling me you guys had,
Speaker 1: like I know those though, they're so special because he's
Speaker 1: soap when he talks to you He's so present, you know,
Speaker 1: and he really he really cared about people, and he
Speaker 1: was really interested, and he always asked questions. You never
Speaker 1: felt like he was just doing it for conversation. Somebody
Speaker 1: that like nothing was ever wasted, Everything was really intentional.
Speaker 1: And so what a special moment you got to have
Speaker 1: with him. Yeah, yeah, his loss. I mean, obviously personally
Speaker 1: it was completely devastating, but I think I share in
Speaker 1: just a feeling with so many people, like people that
Speaker 1: knew him briefly like you, or people that didn't know
Speaker 1: him at all. He had such an impact on all
Speaker 1: of us, and we had such admiration for him and
Speaker 1: his talent and his like humanness. It was just I
Speaker 1: was pregnant. I was eight and a half months pregnant
Speaker 1: when he passed, and the last time I saw him,
Speaker 1: I was like four or five months pregnant. I got
Speaker 1: to tell him that I was a baby and all
Speaker 1: that kind of stuff, and I just he was more
Speaker 1: proud of me than if I had told him I
Speaker 1: had gotten like a Spielberg movie like. He was just
Speaker 1: so happy that I was having a family and that
Speaker 1: I was happy. That's all he ever cared about was
Speaker 1: if you're happy, and Um, him passing was also just
Speaker 1: like a finality of so many things, you know, of
Speaker 1: Like the funeral itself was like you would like for
Speaker 1: a king, you know what I mean, Like there was
Speaker 1: in a private room for his family and the Sopranos cast,
Speaker 1: like we were in there with his family before the funeral,
Speaker 1: you know, to say our private goodbyes, and it's just
Speaker 1: I guess, you know, shows the relationship like we all
Speaker 1: had with him. And it was very surreal because if
Speaker 1: you think about the show, I mean, each year you'd
Speaker 1: come in for your wardrobe fitting and you'd have a
Speaker 1: rack of black clothes because there was guaranteed to be
Speaker 1: an number of funerals that everyone had to attend within
Speaker 1: the Sopranos, and so to kind of be there and
Speaker 1: there we all are, you know, dressed in black, standing together,
Speaker 1: hugging each other, it was just yeah. I mean, you know,
Speaker 1: I get to still talk to his son every once
Speaker 1: in a while. And Deborah his wife, and she just
Speaker 1: actually after the commercial air, recently sent Robert and I
Speaker 1: a picture of their daughter, who was only a little
Speaker 1: over a year when he passed. Um, she looks so
Speaker 1: much like him. The Sopranos itself is just like this thing.
Speaker 1: I'm sure you feel that way with The Office too.
Speaker 1: It's like it's never going away. And I love that,
Speaker 1: like it's it's you know, even conversations like this, it's
Speaker 1: just warms my heart because I love talking about him
Speaker 1: and I'll never, never not want to talk about him
Speaker 1: or that time. And it's really rare to get to
Speaker 1: be part of something like that that people still care
Speaker 1: about so much. That is interesting. Idn't really thought to
Speaker 1: discus stet with you, but yeah, these two shows that
Speaker 1: we had the opportunity to be involved with, they are
Speaker 1: not going away. There's almost no parallels in a way
Speaker 1: to other shows. There's there's almost no precedent, right, And
Speaker 1: I don't say that from a place of self importance,
Speaker 1: but in terms of not only you know, what I
Speaker 1: consider to be the quality of these two shows, but
Speaker 1: how groundbreaking they were and how much they change television.
Speaker 1: You can't do that. You can't you can't do that
Speaker 1: very often. Yeah. One of the things I think that
Speaker 1: people don't talk enough about the Sopranos, and I think
Speaker 1: really is so important to it and to the form
Speaker 1: of dramatic television, is how funny the show is Yeah.
Speaker 1: I think that what that does is it really humanizes
Speaker 1: people because people are funny, right like in real life,
Speaker 1: And not that you have to be funny in every show,
Speaker 1: but I mean in the Sopranos, everybody was funny in
Speaker 1: a way, and so you you feel that humanity so
Speaker 1: much more. I think, wow, yes, that's beautiful. Yes, you're
Speaker 1: absolutely right. And I did actually have that when I
Speaker 1: started watching it. I remember saying to some friends of mine, like,
Speaker 1: I didn't realize how funny the show was. I laughed
Speaker 1: a lot, a lot. Yeah, yeah, and not just it
Speaker 1: like Pauli Walnuts or whatever, but there's a I mean
Speaker 1: in a way, oh now I'm really going deep trying
Speaker 1: to make this connection, but like in a way almost
Speaker 1: office asking away, because a lot of times it is
Speaker 1: like a look or like a response to a bad
Speaker 1: joke or a like, but it just gives that, I
Speaker 1: don't know, just that humanity. One time I remem it
Speaker 1: was like the first episode that Michael Imperioli had written,
Speaker 1: and I was doing this scene where there was like
Speaker 1: some family barbecue and I came in I needed like
Speaker 1: a cake pan, and then I have this moment with
Speaker 1: Steamy's character blah blah blah. And Michael was behind the
Speaker 1: monitor because he was the writer of that episode. And
Speaker 1: after we finished a take and they were coming to
Speaker 1: you know, reset the set, and he came up and
Speaker 1: he goes, you're really funny in this scene. And I
Speaker 1: was like, I am. I wasn't trying to be. He's like,
Speaker 1: I know, that's why you really funny and missed you
Speaker 1: and I remember. But there were moments like in Olivia's
Speaker 1: funeral when Janice is giving that ridiculous speech and we're
Speaker 1: all standing there and she plays like the Rogers and
Speaker 1: hammerstony like music and it was hilarious. We always were
Speaker 1: laughing on that set. We were always having a blast.
Speaker 1: So um. But you're right, like Christopher, Olivia, like all
Speaker 1: the characters were funny, Carmela, everyone was funny. Yes, everyone
Speaker 1: was funny. And I think that there is something I mean,
Speaker 1: even just situations right, like a situational comming. Not that
Speaker 1: it's a sitcom place, but like I mean the episode
Speaker 1: we were talking about earlier, where the idea that he's
Speaker 1: taking his daughter on a college tour and then suddenly
Speaker 1: there is someone that he may have to deal with.
Speaker 1: I mean, just even that idea is there is something
Speaker 1: sort of funny, I guess in a way, yeah, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: Well that's David. I mean David's mind and way of storytelling.
Speaker 1: He's not afraid to show every side of a character.
Speaker 1: And I think that that, you know, allowing characters to
Speaker 1: be heavily flawed and like make them really full and
Speaker 1: well rounded. And I guess, in turn, then allows them
Speaker 1: to be all of the sides of themselves. You know
Speaker 1: totally when you watched it found it funny. Was there
Speaker 1: any other impressions that you had? Yeah, you know, I
Speaker 1: gave myself a little patter in the back, being like,
Speaker 1: you did a good job, Jamie, Like you know you
Speaker 1: were you had no I you had no clue what
Speaker 1: you were doing. Like I didn't go to acting school,
Speaker 1: Like I literally had no idea what I was doing.
Speaker 1: So I I had a moment of like appreciating myself,
Speaker 1: which is rare as an actor or just as a human,
Speaker 1: and I like allowed, really allowed myself to do that,
Speaker 1: and just you know, then I got it. I knew
Speaker 1: people cared about the show, I knew how big the
Speaker 1: show was. I mean I got to experience everything that
Speaker 1: we did, and I hear the way people speak about it,
Speaker 1: but I got it. I was like, oh, yeah, this
Speaker 1: was an incredible television show and I'm so lucky. I
Speaker 1: always felt lucky, but I just really like embodied that. Yeah. Um,
Speaker 1: when you're filming the end of The Sopranos, did you
Speaker 1: have a sense of what it meant for you filming
Speaker 1: that last scene? Because you didn't, I didn't know you
Speaker 1: play a hugely frustrating well no, but I mean like
Speaker 1: a hugely important role in the dramatic build up of
Speaker 1: that scene. Well, because you're waiting for her to get
Speaker 1: in there because you think nothing, something's going to happen
Speaker 1: before she gets in there. Once she gets in there,
Speaker 1: and then all of that leading up to what's going
Speaker 1: to happen when she gets there, you never know. Yes, Yes,
Speaker 1: the moment I'm referring to is yes, Meadow, I'm sure not.
Speaker 1: Jamie Meadow has a really difficult time parking the car,
Speaker 1: and I will say, it's very difficult to park badly.
Speaker 1: It was hard to He's keep hitting the curb and stuff.
Speaker 1: You know, it was frustrating by the frustration you you
Speaker 1: felt Meadow going through was my genuine frustration. But I
Speaker 1: was there in a completely different day when they were
Speaker 1: inside shooting there on the same day. Really, yeah, they
Speaker 1: shot all of that another day, but you came in. No,
Speaker 1: I just opened the door and you're right there. But
Speaker 1: they weren't in there. They weren't in there. M That
Speaker 1: was actually the very last role, like roll of film
Speaker 1: was me running there and opening the door through like
Speaker 1: they had kegs of beer. Like, yeah, that was the
Speaker 1: very last thing the whole series shot. Well, you heard
Speaker 1: you heard it here first. I'm disappointed they weren't there.
Speaker 1: Damn it. That's all right. That was David Chase's fault.
Speaker 1: When the show ended, you have you haven't seen the show,
Speaker 1: but you must know and feel what a big deal
Speaker 1: that this is for people and yourself. I mean, you
Speaker 1: spent ten years years with these people on the show.
Speaker 1: How was that when it ended? Well, I mean I
Speaker 1: think there was equally levels of like excitement of kind
Speaker 1: of like what's next and deep sadness because we had
Speaker 1: just gotten so used to just knowing we were just
Speaker 1: going to see each other again, and we didn't know
Speaker 1: what this meant for anybody that was twenty six at
Speaker 1: the time. So I think I was also at this
Speaker 1: time in my life where I wanted to kind of
Speaker 1: explore and make mistakes and figure out who I was
Speaker 1: because I was sixteen and on that show, like everything
Speaker 1: was very safe for me, and I just felt like
Speaker 1: I needed to be in my twenties a little bit.
Speaker 1: So right when the show ended, I went on a
Speaker 1: birthright trip to Israel, and then I moved to Los Angeles,
Speaker 1: and then I had a hard time in the beginning auditioning.
Speaker 1: It wasn't see I think. I think it was like
Speaker 1: partially me but partially other people not being able to
Speaker 1: see me as anything but Meadow. Like I was going
Speaker 1: out for a lot of sitcoms and multicams and I
Speaker 1: would always get to test at the network and then
Speaker 1: the feedback would be like, I just can't see her
Speaker 1: as funny. And so I went through a couple of
Speaker 1: years of growing pains of figuring that out. And during
Speaker 1: that time I was very lucky because Entourage had invited
Speaker 1: me on to do a guest spot, and then I
Speaker 1: ended up staying for a season and a half, and
Speaker 1: it was this kind of cool transition for me to
Speaker 1: play myself but on the channel and the medium and
Speaker 1: probably a lot of the same crossover audience of people
Speaker 1: that knew me as Meadow, so we can still talk
Speaker 1: about Meadow, but I could kind of let her go
Speaker 1: a little bit, and it was just really fun job that,
Speaker 1: you know, was I'm very grateful, so grateful to Doug
Speaker 1: Ellen that he gave me that opportunity and kept me
Speaker 1: on as long as he did, because I think otherwise
Speaker 1: it would have been even harder. But then I actually
Speaker 1: took kind of like I worked a little here and there,
Speaker 1: but I kind of took some time off to a
Speaker 1: figure out if I still really love acting, because I
Speaker 1: think when you start as a young kid, sometimes you
Speaker 1: have those moments of like why am I doing this?
Speaker 1: Is this just because I don't want to fail and
Speaker 1: I want to keep proving that i've I can do this,
Speaker 1: or do I really want to? And so I had
Speaker 1: my kids, and then I went into an acting class,
Speaker 1: a brand new acting class with the brand new teacher.
Speaker 1: Everyone was like eighteen or nineteen. I was like the
Speaker 1: old lady in the class. And every week I loved
Speaker 1: it because I would fail. I would like funk up
Speaker 1: so bad and I but I was allowed to because
Speaker 1: I was on sopranos. I felt like I had this
Speaker 1: reputation to hold up to, and I couldn't take any
Speaker 1: chances and I played it safe, but they didn't want
Speaker 1: to be wrong and I was. I was so protected
Speaker 1: on that show and now I was like scared. So
Speaker 1: going into a class for a year really allowed me
Speaker 1: to fall in love with acting again but also kind
Speaker 1: of learned how to act as an adult. And so
Speaker 1: from that that those ten years, it was like a
Speaker 1: lot of ups and downs until I kind of found
Speaker 1: my new love for it, like I said, in kind
Speaker 1: of new stride again. But that's this business, you know.
Speaker 1: I remember my manager has always said to me, like
Speaker 1: everyone gets invited back to the party, like just take
Speaker 1: just keep focused, keep happy with your family, you know,
Speaker 1: under like understand what's important in life. Work hard and
Speaker 1: and it's it's it's hard. My first job was like
Speaker 1: the biggest show in the world, you know, and like
Speaker 1: to start off like that, it's a lot of outcomes
Speaker 1: are possible. Well, that is an amazing manager number one, Like, oh,
Speaker 1: he's the best, like for for real, like to give
Speaker 1: you that and that is that's an amazing lesson that
Speaker 1: you talked about being afraid to fail because of success
Speaker 1: that you have and the idea that potentially a person
Speaker 1: who's had some success us now has to play it
Speaker 1: safe because of the success that they've had, because they
Speaker 1: don't want anything to sort of mar that and not
Speaker 1: be bold. And I see the pressure in that, I
Speaker 1: guess is what I'm saying. And that is so amazing
Speaker 1: that you went back and said I'm gonna take this
Speaker 1: class with eighteen year olds and fuck them. Um yeah,
Speaker 1: that's awesome. Yeah, I mean it wasn't easy, but it was.
Speaker 1: I'm like, I can look back and and have a
Speaker 1: great appreciation for it. And like you said, I have
Speaker 1: a great manager and I've tried to quit so many
Speaker 1: times and he's just like, okay, i'll call you in
Speaker 1: a little And also I think I was testing the
Speaker 1: waters of you know, you kind of don't even realize
Speaker 1: you're doing it. You're like, I'm gonna quit, and you
Speaker 1: want to see if like you're doing them a favor,
Speaker 1: and they'll be like, okay, Like I get it. You know,
Speaker 1: it's really exactly You're great, we love you. I'll call
Speaker 1: you on your birthday. But I think you know it's
Speaker 1: in this business. I mean, as much as we don't
Speaker 1: want to feel like validation is important to us. I mean,
Speaker 1: you need to know people believe in you, because there's
Speaker 1: so many ups and downs and there. It really is
Speaker 1: important to have just a few people that you know
Speaker 1: remind you and keep you going. Well. You mentioned before
Speaker 1: you got diagnosed with MS while you were working on
Speaker 1: the Sopranos and you didn't tell anyone for fifteen years.
Speaker 1: Why did that have to do with the business. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: I had to do with the business. It had to
Speaker 1: do with my own acceptance of it. And I should
Speaker 1: say that everything that we just talked about MS played
Speaker 1: a very heavy role in that as well, because as
Speaker 1: years went by, as the disease progressed, as I became
Speaker 1: more limited, and only until very recently have I been
Speaker 1: able to label myself as disabled, it was very hard
Speaker 1: for me to say that or accept that. Um I
Speaker 1: hit it and I just assumed that no one would
Speaker 1: hire me with MS, and I wouldn't blame them. I
Speaker 1: think I also had to really understand what this disease
Speaker 1: meant for me and my life, like how it manifested,
Speaker 1: how it limited me, because to keep up with the
Speaker 1: lies that I was telling to cover up why I
Speaker 1: couldn't run, and then why I kind of had a
Speaker 1: little bit of a limp, you know why I couldn't
Speaker 1: wear high heels, like I couldn't keep up with with
Speaker 1: it until I figured out what this disease meant for me.
Speaker 1: And I've been knock on wood stable for the last
Speaker 1: ten years, so I've been able to really understand. I've
Speaker 1: been able to kind of get a hold on the
Speaker 1: disease halted. It still limits me in a lot of ways,
Speaker 1: but it's allowed me to feel more confident and concentrate
Speaker 1: more on acting as opposed to my physicality and having
Speaker 1: to cover something up. But I think a lot of
Speaker 1: it came from two of me just always wanting to
Speaker 1: be the good girl, not a burden, not a problem.
Speaker 1: And I had a lot of guilt and shame about
Speaker 1: having a mess because I felt like, I'm sorry I'm
Speaker 1: coming here with this, I'm sorry that this is what
Speaker 1: I have. And after I had my first son, when
Speaker 1: he was about two and a half three, he was
Speaker 1: aware of my limitations. I didn't have to explain I
Speaker 1: had MS. He just knew mommy can't run things like that.
Speaker 1: But I really I had to take a hard look
Speaker 1: at myself and how I was going through life and
Speaker 1: realizing like, am I gonna ask my kid to lie
Speaker 1: for me one day? Or am I gonna lie to
Speaker 1: my kid about what's happening? This isn't this isn't fair,
Speaker 1: and so um that's when I decided to become public
Speaker 1: with it. But only and this isn't anybody else's fault,
Speaker 1: this is me. Only until this job that I'm on
Speaker 1: right now on Big Sky, have I really realized it's
Speaker 1: it's not an issue. And I think it's not because
Speaker 1: people weren't willing to help me. It's I'm willing to
Speaker 1: let people help me now. So on this role I
Speaker 1: have on Big Sky, I was this four episode arc
Speaker 1: supposed to come in and out my characters running through
Speaker 1: the woods. They had a stunt double, but they also
Speaker 1: built me this rig so from here up it looks
Speaker 1: like I'm running like they did all these amazing things
Speaker 1: for me, and then I'm ready to say goodbye, and
Speaker 1: they were like, we really like what you're doing. We
Speaker 1: want to keep you on the show. And here I
Speaker 1: am fifteen episodes later. They know about my body, it
Speaker 1: doesn't matter, it's not even written in the role. And
Speaker 1: it really has been the first opportunity for me to like,
Speaker 1: I feel like it's okay that I have this. It's okay.
Speaker 1: It's not a burden, it's not an issue. And I've
Speaker 1: also realized in my life living with m S, because
Speaker 1: my kind of stuff is on the outside you can
Speaker 1: see it, people feel say to share with me things
Speaker 1: that they're dealing with. And I don't think I deserve
Speaker 1: any extra credit for pursuing a career in the entertainment
Speaker 1: business with m S because what I've come to realize
Speaker 1: is we all have stuff that we're coming to and
Speaker 1: we're showing up every day. You just happen to see mine,
Speaker 1: and it makes me feel less different, but it also
Speaker 1: makes me feel less alone. And um, it's a really
Speaker 1: empowering place to be that I never thought I would be.
Speaker 1: And it's one of those moments where you kind of
Speaker 1: like become grateful for your trauma because I know I
Speaker 1: wouldn't be who I am or have the perspective that
Speaker 1: I have in my life in general without it. So
Speaker 1: it's it's a really a really nice place to be.
Speaker 1: God bless Jamie. It's so incredible, truly, and your perspective
Speaker 1: and what the gift that you talk about people giving
Speaker 1: to you, but Also, what you're giving to other people
Speaker 1: is vitally important, and I'm not going to over dramatize it,
Speaker 1: but I just I respect the hell out of you
Speaker 1: for that, and I cannot, I cannot tell you how
Speaker 1: happy I am that you have found peace on this show.
Speaker 1: And it's my next bene watch. By the way, John
Speaker 1: Carroll Lynch has taken a lot of roles from me
Speaker 1: over the years. And yes, and uh back in uh
Speaker 1: from from Minnesota. But that guy, that guy, Yeah, that's
Speaker 1: it's my neck. I don't know. I just I missed it.
Speaker 1: I've missed the show. I started looking at it. Well,
Speaker 1: there's so many shows. I mean, there's so many. I'm
Speaker 1: not beating myself up, but no, you can't. You can't.
Speaker 1: I'm not beating myself up. But but I look, I
Speaker 1: was like, wait a second, John is on this show.
Speaker 1: Jamie's coming in. It's gonna be on this show like
Speaker 1: murdering mystery and my exact kind of thing. So I'm
Speaker 1: excited about it. I want to ask you one other
Speaker 1: thing about you played a mob wife in mob Town
Speaker 1: later on? Was that fun? Was that funny? That so fun?
Speaker 1: Did you call Edie and ask her advice? About how
Speaker 1: to play a mob wife or no, you just watched him.
Speaker 1: It's like, you know, it's one of those things. We've
Speaker 1: seen all of the score Staysy films and you know,
Speaker 1: and like I lived in the Sopranos, so it's like
Speaker 1: as soon as they gave me the big hair and like,
Speaker 1: and it was took place in the sixties, so it's
Speaker 1: like as soon as they gave me the words of everything,
Speaker 1: and I can I mean, I have a bit of
Speaker 1: a New York accent, but I can slip right back
Speaker 1: into like my real New York accent really easy. So
Speaker 1: it was so much fun. Oh yeah, you and Robert
Speaker 1: Eiler new podcast as well. Pajama pants. Um, yes, I
Speaker 1: was going to tell you that in honor of you,
Speaker 1: I was wearing pajama pants today. Good me too. I'm not,
Speaker 1: are you, but you're not not? Yeah, I'm in sweatpants,
Speaker 1: all right. Well that's that counts. That counts. How is that?
Speaker 1: I know you guys had such a great relationship and
Speaker 1: it must be fun you're working with him again. Oh,
Speaker 1: it's the best. He's my best friend. He has been
Speaker 1: since day one. We have, you know, a bond that
Speaker 1: is so unique. We had a really special experience. I'm
Speaker 1: sure you can feel with so many of your cast
Speaker 1: made a really unique and special experience. And you know,
Speaker 1: we've been so close throughout all of this time, and
Speaker 1: we love doing the podcast together and it's so fun.
Speaker 1: But you know, when we just shot the super Bowl
Speaker 1: commercial together next, it was another thing where we're like,
Speaker 1: how freaking cool that we get to experience this together.
Speaker 1: You know, it's just another thing where like no one
Speaker 1: would under like when we were there filming and we
Speaker 1: have the same David Chase direct did it that you
Speaker 1: know our DP film Phil Abraham who's now this huge
Speaker 1: TV director, came back to DP and the same camera
Speaker 1: operator and we're looking at each other like, this is crazy,
Speaker 1: this is so cool. Is so without a question, you
Speaker 1: won the super Bowl? For me? There is not there
Speaker 1: is not even close. I'm start hearing this music and
Speaker 1: I'm like, what did we did? Did we click back over? It? Was?
Speaker 1: This is what the rewatching is like? How did I?
Speaker 1: And I start seeing it and I see your face
Speaker 1: and I'm like, oh my god, this is so genius
Speaker 1: and that it's Chevy and that this it was the
Speaker 1: Suburban and now it's the new kid and it's the
Speaker 1: electric I mean, it's it's it could not be more perfect. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it was really. When they called to tell us about it,
Speaker 1: I just remember feeling so happy for the Sopranos fans.
Speaker 1: I was like, people, if it's done right, which I
Speaker 1: had no doubt it would be David directing and everything,
Speaker 1: I'm like, this is gonna be so cool because I
Speaker 1: wanted They wanted that. They wanted people's heads to turn,
Speaker 1: because I didn't realize so many commercials get leaked before.
Speaker 1: I never paid attention to super Bowl commercials one I guess,
Speaker 1: and so like I noticed. I was like, oh, all
Speaker 1: these commercials are leaked already before super Bowl. Like I
Speaker 1: didn't realize they did that. And ours we signed n
Speaker 1: d as, we couldn't tell anyone. Only my husband and
Speaker 1: my parents knew. And you know, they wanted it to
Speaker 1: be that surprise where you hear the music, you look like,
Speaker 1: what am I watching? Is this a new show? Was
Speaker 1: that meadow? Oh my god, j oh, it's for a car?
Speaker 1: You know? Did David call you? How did you find
Speaker 1: out about it? No? My manager, but then he said
Speaker 1: David's doing it, and yeah, I mean, I mean I
Speaker 1: didn't need much convincing, but yes, exactly, and then we
Speaker 1: and that was we found out right before Christmas and
Speaker 1: we shot it in mid January in New York. So awesome. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it was cool, so awesome. Um living in Austin, Texas.
Speaker 1: You made the move now, congratulations on that. I hear
Speaker 1: it is spectacular And I have to get there very
Speaker 1: very soon. Yes, you got to let me know when
Speaker 1: you come. I will for sure. I thank you so
Speaker 1: much for talking to me. I appreciate you so much,
Speaker 1: and after hearing truly, after hearing your stories today, I
Speaker 1: respect the hell out of you even more than I
Speaker 1: did before. That's so nice. Well, I've I've had a
Speaker 1: great time talking to you. I'm so glad that you
Speaker 1: still had my number. I know, well because I'm the
Speaker 1: only person in the world that's had the same number
Speaker 1: for over twenty years. But this is why, except me,
Speaker 1: you have the same number two for the song. Yeah,
Speaker 1: the same number, and you have the same number. Thankfully,
Speaker 1: And yeah, j Amy, thank you. It's been a pleasure,
Speaker 1: my pleasure. Thank you. There she is, Ladies and gentlemen,
Speaker 1: Jamie Lynn is so great to have you on, so
Speaker 1: nice to see you and to talk to you. You
Speaker 1: are truly one of my my favorite humans and actors obviously,
Speaker 1: so thank you so much for coming on. Listen to
Speaker 1: her podcast Put Jama Pants, and check her out Big
Speaker 1: Sky on ABC season two. You will not regret it.
Speaker 1: That's all we got today. Remember to like and subscribe
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Speaker 1: I know after this talk, I sure will. Off the
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Speaker 1: alongside our executive producer Langley. Our producers are Diego Tapia,
Speaker 1: Liz Hayes, Emily Carr, and Hannah Harris. Our talent producer
Speaker 1: is Ryan Papa Zachary. Our theme song Bubble and Squeak
Speaker 1: performed by my great friend Creed Bratton, and the episode
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