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Speaker 1: And now Move the Sticks with Daniel Jeremiah and Bucky Brooks.

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Speaker 1: What's up, everybody, DJ Bucky here on Move the Sticks,

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Speaker 1: presented by the US Marine Corps and Bucky. We've got

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Speaker 1: a special bonus episode podcast special bonus episode. We invited

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Speaker 1: So if you've ever wondered what goes on on a

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Speaker 1: this is Daniel Jeremiah. Thanks for thanks for all the

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Speaker 1: end of the the day and look forward to to chatting

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Speaker 1: with you guys. Just kind of opening thoughts on the

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Speaker 1: me up here. But when I look at this draft

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Speaker 1: on a hole, UM, the things that jump out to

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Speaker 1: me is just the depth we have in the secondary,

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Speaker 1: Safeties is loaded. UM. And then edge rushers. It's a

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Speaker 1: the edge. It's a good group of guys. Offensively, the

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Speaker 1: And then in terms of some positions where we aren't

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Speaker 1: Buck so to piggyback off Daniel in terms of looking

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Speaker 1: so much depth here. I think a little bit of

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Speaker 1: the risk for teams is gonna be there's gonna be

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Speaker 1: some thought process of hey, let's let's identify other needs

435
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Speaker 1: and then we can circle back on corner because it's

436
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Speaker 1: so deep. Um. But I've seen this in years past

437
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Speaker 1: at other positions where we've we've seen that. You know,

438
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Speaker 1: people have said this, and then you see these runs

439
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Speaker 1: go and we all of a sudden, we have five

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Speaker 1: corners going eight picks, and you start seeing these guys

441
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Speaker 1: just fly off the board. So for them at pick

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Speaker 1: number eighteen, I had them scooping up a corner. Um

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Speaker 1: and to me, I look at at what uh what

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Speaker 1: you have there with us? White talked a little bit

445
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Speaker 1: about earlier. I think he can play inside, Nicol, he

446
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Speaker 1: can play outside. I think he could play safety if

447
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Speaker 1: you wanted to. Um, he can return kicks, help you

448
00:20:39,560 --> 00:20:42,159
Speaker 1: out in that area as well. And just meeting with

449
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Speaker 1: him and talking with other teams, he blows you away,

450
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Speaker 1: which is tells how smart and how competitive he is.

451
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Speaker 1: So to me, I think that's a safe pick. I

452
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Speaker 1: think if you look at John Robinson, some of his

453
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Speaker 1: philosophy drafting wise, um, especially I just look back at

454
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Speaker 1: last year with conklin Is they just hit it in

455
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Speaker 1: the fairway. Man. Just it's a nice double all day long, um,

456
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Speaker 1: and you might end up getting even a little bit

457
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Speaker 1: better than that. No risk involved, and Tarbous White to me,

458
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Speaker 1: I don't think there's a whole lot of risk. Uh.

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Speaker 1: Maybe a little bit limited on upside. But I think

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Speaker 1: he's he's ready made and he's ready to play right now.

461
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Speaker 1: At one found a point piggybacking on Daniel's assessment of

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Speaker 1: Mike Williams, I think when you look back, I think

463
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Speaker 1: it's important to connect the dots with the coordinator um

464
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Speaker 1: and also how the quarterback plays. So with Marcus Uh,

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Speaker 1: Marcus is a guy that is a rhythm thrower. He

466
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Speaker 1: does a really good job of throwing slantsing and breaking

467
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Speaker 1: routes on time. When you look at some of the

468
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Speaker 1: bigger receivers Mike Williams, Corey Davis, those guys excel that

469
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Speaker 1: running slants and in breaking routes. And when you couple

470
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Speaker 1: that with Terry Ribiscus the ability to develop wide receivers

471
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Speaker 1: namely Julio Jones in Atlanta, sometimes you can connect the

472
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Speaker 1: dots and see how we could play out for a team.

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Speaker 1: So that's kind of my mindset. Even though I picked

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Speaker 1: John Ross in that scenario, I believe Mike Williams and

475
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Speaker 1: Corey Davis would be ideal fish just because they're bigger

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Speaker 1: bodies and they're a little more physical in their play.

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Speaker 1: Thank you, guys. Next question comes from Connor News from

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Speaker 1: the New York Star Ledger. Your line is not open? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: hey guys, Obviously the New York Jet needed quarterback in

480
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Speaker 1: in this year's draft, and I guess Trubisky and Watson

481
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Speaker 1: are two of the favorites. Do you think that they

482
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Speaker 1: pulled the trigger on one of them? And which of

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Speaker 1: these guys do you think is separated themselves as the

484
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Speaker 1: best quarterback in the class? Well, it look it's kind

485
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Speaker 1: of a two party there. I don't think they should

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Speaker 1: take a quarterback at six. I think it would be

487
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Speaker 1: a big mistake. And I think you can kind of

488
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Speaker 1: look at it from three reasons. Number one, Um, you're

489
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Speaker 1: you're basically admitting you made a big mistake with taking

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Speaker 1: a quarterback in the second round last year. You you

491
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Speaker 1: would you identify a wasted second round pick last year,

492
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Speaker 1: You cost yourself the opportunity to get a great player

493
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Speaker 1: at another position at six this year, and you probably

494
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Speaker 1: take yourself out of the quarterback market next year, which

495
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Speaker 1: you know it's get ahead of ourselves. But when you

496
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Speaker 1: look at what could be available, I think it's it's

497
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Speaker 1: gonna be a much better group next year than we

498
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Speaker 1: have this year. So I don't think it makes a

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Speaker 1: whole lot of sense there. I don't think there's a

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Speaker 1: talent war need to go up there with the sixth

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Speaker 1: overall pick. I have, you know, personally, have Watson twenty,

502
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Speaker 1: Trubisky thirty two, Kaiser thirty three. Just in terms of

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Speaker 1: of where they are on my top fifty list, how

504
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Speaker 1: I sequenced them in. I'm all, you know, I'm all

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Speaker 1: for taking a quarterback. If you think he's a twelfth

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Speaker 1: best player and you end up taking him at six, Um,

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Speaker 1: I can. I can get on board with that. But man,

508
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Speaker 1: taking a guy who's kind of a borderline late one,

509
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Speaker 1: early two and vaulting him all the way up into

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Speaker 1: the top ten in this year's draft, UM, I don't

511
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Speaker 1: think it's I don't think it's smart business. If you

512
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Speaker 1: if you do want to take a quarterback and you're

513
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Speaker 1: you're set on one of these guys, um, you know

514
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Speaker 1: I would be more inclined to trade back and if

515
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Speaker 1: they if one of them falls in your lap, you

516
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Speaker 1: take him. If not, there'll still be other options available.

517
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Speaker 1: But I would not take a quarterback there at the

518
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Speaker 1: top of this group. And in terms of stacking him up,

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Speaker 1: I just mentioned I I came to uh, I just

520
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Speaker 1: came to an end of this process, you know, a

521
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Speaker 1: month or a month and a half ago or so,

522
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Speaker 1: and I'd gone back and forth on these guys so

523
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Speaker 1: much because they have their different strengths and weaknesses. Finally,

524
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Speaker 1: I just said, I'm gonna go Watson. Trubisky, then Kai, sir,

525
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Speaker 1: and Watson for me because when I look at the

526
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Speaker 1: things that I know that he has poise, toughness, uh, intelligence, leadership,

527
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Speaker 1: and physically he can make every throw. So those are

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Speaker 1: the things I put in the plus column with him,

529
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Speaker 1: and that kind of ended up and leading me to

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Speaker 1: take him over to risky. The things obviously he needs

531
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Speaker 1: to work on going forward, adjustment post snap, with some

532
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Speaker 1: of his vision that's got him in some trouble with

533
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Speaker 1: with turnovers and deep ball accuracy. Those are things he

534
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Speaker 1: needs to work on. So kind of quick summary, I

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Speaker 1: don't think that any of these guys are worth top

536
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Speaker 1: ten picks, but when I stack him up, I have

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Speaker 1: Watson is my top quarterback in this group. Yeah. I

538
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Speaker 1: take a little different take on what you do with

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Speaker 1: a quarterback position because of the Hackenburg factor. And I

540
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Speaker 1: know you expanded a second round pick on him, and uh,

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Speaker 1: it would be admitting maybe in a mistake if you

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Speaker 1: went back into the quarterback pool again. But if you've

543
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Speaker 1: seen that Hackenburg doesn't appear to show signs of being

544
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Speaker 1: a quarterback that has starting qualities, then I think you

545
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Speaker 1: have to jump back in because the reality of the

546
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Speaker 1: situation UH with mcagnet and Bowls, they may be on

547
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Speaker 1: kind of a a the hot seat in terms of

548
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Speaker 1: being able to extend their stay in New York. And

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Speaker 1: so if any of these young quarterbacks exhibits any of

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Speaker 1: the qualities that you look for in the passing game

551
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Speaker 1: that you're changing to, which is a West Coast offense,

552
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Speaker 1: I think you have to pull it a trigger. Whether

553
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Speaker 1: you pull it at six, whether you fall back, I

554
00:25:19,960 --> 00:25:21,840
Speaker 1: think you have to identify the player that you think

555
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Speaker 1: is the best fit, then determine the value. I think

556
00:25:24,760 --> 00:25:27,760
Speaker 1: Watson and Robiski are very similar in terms of style

557
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Speaker 1: of play, but I think Watson is more ready to

558
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Speaker 1: probably handle the scrutiny that comes along with Dylan uh

559
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Speaker 1: and playing in New York. Our next question comes from

560
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Speaker 1: Michael Phillips from Richmond Times Distatch, your line is now open. Well,

561
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Speaker 1: thanks for doing this, UM one to ask you about

562
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Speaker 1: mo Eli Cox, the VCU basketball player who's going to

563
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Speaker 1: be a tight end in the NFL. I know he's

564
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Speaker 1: not draft eligible, but where do you see him landing

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Speaker 1: and what would be a reasonable expectation for a guy

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Speaker 1: like that who hasn't played in so long, I mean,

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Speaker 1: I think with most of the most of these guys

568
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Speaker 1: that are these late uh conversions as that are basketball

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Speaker 1: player is trying to figure it out. A lot of

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Speaker 1: times if they are drafted, is normally a seventh round

571
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Speaker 1: pick that you're taking a flyer on because you don't

572
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Speaker 1: want to have to compete to get their services on

573
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Speaker 1: the free agent market. I think the big thing for him,

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Speaker 1: he'll be signed to a team. A team will have

575
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Speaker 1: a long term developmental plan. They hope that he flashes

576
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Speaker 1: enough in training camp to maybe make practice squad to

577
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Speaker 1: extend the States so we can get used to playing

578
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Speaker 1: the game because it's so vastly different than playing basketball.

579
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Speaker 1: But the success that we've seen these other basketball players

580
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Speaker 1: have will give him every opportunity to make a team.

581
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Speaker 1: He has size, we would like to think he has

582
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Speaker 1: hand eye coordination. UM, if he can get used to

583
00:26:39,240 --> 00:26:42,800
Speaker 1: the physicality of the blocking uh, it will give my

584
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Speaker 1: opportunity to play. But people will always keep the tires

585
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Speaker 1: on those guys because we've seen Gates and Gonzalez and

586
00:26:48,560 --> 00:26:51,440
Speaker 1: so many other players go from playing basketball to being

587
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Speaker 1: successful tight ends in the league. Our next question comes

588
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Speaker 1: from Matt Lombardo from dot Com. Earline is not open

589
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Speaker 1: because thanks for doing this. UH. Two part are on

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Speaker 1: the Eagles, if you will, UH number one? How do

591
00:27:05,320 --> 00:27:08,840
Speaker 1: they balance continuing to build around Carson Wentz versus the

592
00:27:08,880 --> 00:27:13,159
Speaker 1: need to rebuild the defense, particularly a corner and who

593
00:27:13,240 --> 00:27:15,400
Speaker 1: would be your best fit on offense and best fit

594
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Speaker 1: on defense for them? Yeah? I mean to me, it's

595
00:27:18,440 --> 00:27:21,160
Speaker 1: it's it's tough call because you have these needs on defense.

596
00:27:21,200 --> 00:27:23,040
Speaker 1: But I think when you have a young quarterback, you

597
00:27:23,080 --> 00:27:25,000
Speaker 1: always air on the side he's given him more help

598
00:27:25,040 --> 00:27:27,080
Speaker 1: because if he's going to be successful, you'll have time

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Speaker 1: to eventually figure out what you need to do on

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Speaker 1: that side of the ball. Uh, defensively, so give him

601
00:27:32,520 --> 00:27:35,520
Speaker 1: help offensively if it's close and you look for help.

602
00:27:35,600 --> 00:27:38,200
Speaker 1: In this draft where they're picking at fourteen, I think

603
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Speaker 1: from a you know, from a weapon standpoint, Mike Williams

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Speaker 1: Corey Davis would make a lot of sense if they

605
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Speaker 1: were to be in that range. Christian McCaffrey Dalvin Cook

606
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Speaker 1: would be the other two guys. Um I would throw

607
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Speaker 1: on that mix. I don't know you go wrong with

608
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Speaker 1: any of those four players. I think they're both premier guys.

609
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Speaker 1: I think they help your young quarterback takes that take

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Speaker 1: that next step. Defensively, obviously, corner is a huge need. Um.

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Speaker 1: If you don't get the one there at fourteen, I

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Speaker 1: think in the market in round number two. Um, and

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Speaker 1: you're looking at that group of corners, we'll see who

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Speaker 1: ends up falling down there. I don't know that Dorry

615
00:28:07,080 --> 00:28:09,919
Speaker 1: Jackson will be there. Uh, you've got Marlon Humphrey. Then

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Speaker 1: you've you've probably got a guy like Quincy Wilson who

617
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Speaker 1: could be in the mix there from Florida. I think

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Speaker 1: the big thing defensively, Um, Jim Schwartz's scheme allows you

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Speaker 1: to play with lesser players on the corners, so they

620
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Speaker 1: can get away with guys who may be speed deficient.

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Speaker 1: So a guy like tease Table we've talked about Quincy Wilson,

622
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Speaker 1: guys that can roll up and play cover two and

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Speaker 1: put their hands on receivers and reroute. Uh. Jim Swartz

624
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Speaker 1: has shown that he is willing to play a zone

625
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Speaker 1: base defense, and so I agree with Daniel. You build

626
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Speaker 1: up the offense. You make sure that your young quarterback

627
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Speaker 1: is up and going. He has confidence, he continues to

628
00:28:42,920 --> 00:28:45,320
Speaker 1: make strides and then you kind of build up the

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Speaker 1: defense along the way. But I want to make sure

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Speaker 1: that the franchise quarterback has everything that he needs to

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Speaker 1: be successful. Thank you. Our next questions from Zachary bar

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Speaker 1: from New York postreline is that open? How are you

633
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Speaker 1: guys doing? I wanted to ask you about two local players, uh,

634
00:29:06,320 --> 00:29:09,920
Speaker 1: Curtis Samuel of Ohio sat Jabrelle Peppers for first. On

635
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Speaker 1: Samuel's will, I talked about him being a running backer,

636
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Speaker 1: a wide receiver, maybe even a dual guy. What do

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Speaker 1: you guys think of him and kind of how high

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Speaker 1: do you think he could go and what kind of

639
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Speaker 1: impact do you think you can make? What's his feeling?

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Speaker 1: I mean, he's a terrific player. He's very, very talented. UM.

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Speaker 1: I think the comparison that a lot of people would

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Speaker 1: like to make is Percy Harvin in terms of his

643
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Speaker 1: ability to make an impact as an occasional running back,

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Speaker 1: a slot receiver, and an impact player in the return

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Speaker 1: game when you watch him, I think he has been

646
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Speaker 1: one of the underrated explosive players because what he put

647
00:29:41,840 --> 00:29:44,240
Speaker 1: on at the Combine was barely talked about, just because

648
00:29:44,320 --> 00:29:46,600
Speaker 1: John Ross kind of stole the show with the four

649
00:29:46,640 --> 00:29:48,960
Speaker 1: two two. But the fact that he's a four three

650
00:29:49,000 --> 00:29:52,320
Speaker 1: old guy, a guy that is extremely fast, he's slippery

651
00:29:52,360 --> 00:29:54,800
Speaker 1: with the ball in his hands, gives him an opportunity

652
00:29:54,840 --> 00:29:56,840
Speaker 1: to be a difference maker. I think the big thing

653
00:29:56,840 --> 00:29:59,160
Speaker 1: when you take on a player like that, you must

654
00:29:59,200 --> 00:30:01,560
Speaker 1: have a very clear your plan for getting him the

655
00:30:01,600 --> 00:30:04,160
Speaker 1: ball and putting him in a position to thrive. And

656
00:30:04,200 --> 00:30:07,360
Speaker 1: so I think he's eventually an eighteen to twenty touch

657
00:30:07,440 --> 00:30:11,480
Speaker 1: per game guy, and that's any combination of returns, rushes

658
00:30:11,640 --> 00:30:15,200
Speaker 1: and receptions. He has that many opportunities he should be

659
00:30:15,200 --> 00:30:16,680
Speaker 1: able to make. The kind of plays debt kind of

660
00:30:16,760 --> 00:30:19,200
Speaker 1: equates his draft status. Talking to teams around the league,

661
00:30:19,200 --> 00:30:22,040
Speaker 1: the interesting conversation on him is which room do you

662
00:30:22,040 --> 00:30:24,440
Speaker 1: put him in? Which sounds kind of silly, but like, Okay,

663
00:30:24,440 --> 00:30:26,160
Speaker 1: he can do both, but he's gonna be in one

664
00:30:26,200 --> 00:30:27,960
Speaker 1: positional room. We're gonna put him in with the receivers.

665
00:30:27,960 --> 00:30:29,880
Speaker 1: We're gonna put him in with the running backs. Uh

666
00:30:29,920 --> 00:30:32,280
Speaker 1: So that's a discussion taking place with teams and from

667
00:30:32,320 --> 00:30:34,200
Speaker 1: what you do with him. I just think you watched

668
00:30:34,240 --> 00:30:35,920
Speaker 1: Kansas City play last year and what they do with

669
00:30:35,920 --> 00:30:38,280
Speaker 1: Tyreek Hill, and you asked Curtis Samuel to do the

670
00:30:38,280 --> 00:30:39,800
Speaker 1: exact same things that he can give you some of

671
00:30:39,840 --> 00:30:42,520
Speaker 1: that big playability. I think he asked about Peppers too.

672
00:30:43,000 --> 00:30:45,560
Speaker 1: On him. He's one of the tougher evaluations in this

673
00:30:45,680 --> 00:30:48,440
Speaker 1: draft class because he played out a position this year

674
00:30:48,480 --> 00:30:51,760
Speaker 1: at linebacker. UM, so you don't you don't really see

675
00:30:51,840 --> 00:30:53,400
Speaker 1: him do what he's gonna be asked to do with

676
00:30:53,480 --> 00:30:56,080
Speaker 1: the next level. The lack of production, you know, it

677
00:30:56,200 --> 00:30:58,520
Speaker 1: is what it is. He's got one interception came in

678
00:30:58,560 --> 00:31:01,239
Speaker 1: his last game. Uh, that's something you've got to try

679
00:31:01,280 --> 00:31:03,520
Speaker 1: and sort through. But you're looking at somebody that's very

680
00:31:03,560 --> 00:31:07,800
Speaker 1: explosive athlete. Um, it's a it's a high character, great kid,

681
00:31:07,840 --> 00:31:11,440
Speaker 1: he's intelligent. UM, he's gonna be outstanding on special teams.

682
00:31:11,480 --> 00:31:15,080
Speaker 1: I think you start there and then as a safety, UM,

683
00:31:15,120 --> 00:31:17,160
Speaker 1: I think you're probably looking at somebody that you're gonna

684
00:31:17,200 --> 00:31:19,960
Speaker 1: drop down in the box and play him in that role. UM.

685
00:31:20,160 --> 00:31:22,800
Speaker 1: I don't. I don't envision him as a high safety.

686
00:31:22,840 --> 00:31:25,000
Speaker 1: I know some teams do, but I see him more

687
00:31:25,040 --> 00:31:26,560
Speaker 1: a little bit closer to the line of scrimmage, but

688
00:31:26,560 --> 00:31:29,280
Speaker 1: obviously not in that linebacker role he was playing. Last year. Yeah,

689
00:31:29,280 --> 00:31:31,560
Speaker 1: I think He's a c ball kid ballplayer, someone that

690
00:31:31,680 --> 00:31:33,640
Speaker 1: you kind of bring in the box and you find

691
00:31:33,640 --> 00:31:35,800
Speaker 1: a way to put him near the action. He has

692
00:31:35,800 --> 00:31:37,960
Speaker 1: shown the ability to be explosive and to make tackle.

693
00:31:38,040 --> 00:31:39,640
Speaker 1: You just want to kind of keep him in a

694
00:31:39,640 --> 00:31:45,600
Speaker 1: position where he can succeed. Um On Samuel p he's

695
00:31:45,600 --> 00:31:48,800
Speaker 1: looking like a second novelty you see him moving into

696
00:31:48,840 --> 00:31:53,600
Speaker 1: the first or see more of a second I would

697
00:31:53,600 --> 00:31:56,120
Speaker 1: put him to thirty five. I think he'll if he

698
00:31:56,160 --> 00:31:59,000
Speaker 1: doesn't go late first, he'll be He'll be very quick

699
00:31:59,040 --> 00:32:01,680
Speaker 1: off the board top of the second round. It's too explosive. Yeah,

700
00:32:01,720 --> 00:32:04,479
Speaker 1: Explosive guys typically go early in the second round if

701
00:32:04,480 --> 00:32:11,160
Speaker 1: in that first round goes okay. Our next question comes

702
00:32:11,200 --> 00:32:17,400
Speaker 1: from the Mulgarchy from Associated pristoryline isn't Yes. I was

703
00:32:17,440 --> 00:32:20,120
Speaker 1: just wondering what you thought what you were forecasting for

704
00:32:20,160 --> 00:32:24,000
Speaker 1: a couple of Tennessee players, Derek Barnett and Joshua Dobbs,

705
00:32:24,000 --> 00:32:26,880
Speaker 1: and also was wondering we either of you just how

706
00:32:26,960 --> 00:32:29,640
Speaker 1: much Dobbs has kind of maybe raised his stock since

707
00:32:29,680 --> 00:32:32,360
Speaker 1: the end of the season. I'll take Barnett, Bucky, you

708
00:32:32,400 --> 00:32:35,880
Speaker 1: can take Dobbs. Uh. You know Barnett's interesting because you

709
00:32:35,920 --> 00:32:38,640
Speaker 1: see all the production. You see somebody that's just a

710
00:32:38,720 --> 00:32:42,560
Speaker 1: really skilled pass rusher. Um, he does not have, you know,

711
00:32:42,640 --> 00:32:45,280
Speaker 1: elite get off. He does not have elite burst, um,

712
00:32:45,320 --> 00:32:47,520
Speaker 1: that explosiveness that you that you'd like to have in

713
00:32:47,560 --> 00:32:50,160
Speaker 1: an edge rusher. And some teams are are more beholden

714
00:32:50,200 --> 00:32:52,120
Speaker 1: to those numbers than others, So some teams aren't as

715
00:32:52,160 --> 00:32:54,160
Speaker 1: high on him. But when you study the tape and

716
00:32:54,160 --> 00:32:56,000
Speaker 1: watch him, I think he's one of the I think

717
00:32:56,000 --> 00:32:58,040
Speaker 1: he's one of the top fifteen or so players in

718
00:32:58,040 --> 00:33:01,080
Speaker 1: this draft class. So where I haven't personally, I think

719
00:33:01,120 --> 00:33:04,320
Speaker 1: I have him as my thirteenth overall player. Um, and

720
00:33:04,680 --> 00:33:07,120
Speaker 1: I I love him. And I was around Terrell Suggs

721
00:33:07,120 --> 00:33:08,720
Speaker 1: a little bit with the Ravens, Who's another guy that

722
00:33:08,720 --> 00:33:12,000
Speaker 1: didn't test all that well. But man, he's plenty fast

723
00:33:12,120 --> 00:33:13,720
Speaker 1: enough when you got on the football field. I think

724
00:33:13,720 --> 00:33:15,800
Speaker 1: you see some of those same things with Barnett. I

725
00:33:15,840 --> 00:33:18,040
Speaker 1: don't think he's quite at that Suggs level, but I

726
00:33:18,040 --> 00:33:19,640
Speaker 1: think he's definitely got a chance to be a double

727
00:33:19,680 --> 00:33:21,920
Speaker 1: digit sackay at the next level. And I'd be shocked

728
00:33:21,920 --> 00:33:23,840
Speaker 1: if he's not off the board by the twenty pick.

729
00:33:24,240 --> 00:33:26,760
Speaker 1: You know, as it comes to Joshua Dobbs. I believe

730
00:33:26,800 --> 00:33:28,680
Speaker 1: a lot of people, a lot of teams and talking

731
00:33:28,720 --> 00:33:30,760
Speaker 1: to him. He's kind of pigs as the sleeper pick,

732
00:33:31,280 --> 00:33:35,400
Speaker 1: and he will benefit from the Dak Prescott effect, meaning

733
00:33:35,440 --> 00:33:37,800
Speaker 1: a guy that you're trying to figure out how can

734
00:33:37,800 --> 00:33:41,120
Speaker 1: he transition from the spread to a pro style system.

735
00:33:41,160 --> 00:33:44,920
Speaker 1: There are four things that Dobbs exhibits. He's smart, he's tough,

736
00:33:45,000 --> 00:33:48,160
Speaker 1: he's athletic, and he has armed talent. When you watched

737
00:33:48,200 --> 00:33:50,600
Speaker 1: him at a Senior Bowl, he got better each and

738
00:33:50,680 --> 00:33:53,160
Speaker 1: every day, and so you begin to believe that he

739
00:33:53,280 --> 00:33:56,480
Speaker 1: is going to transition pretty quickly and smoothly into the

740
00:33:56,560 --> 00:33:59,239
Speaker 1: National Football League. I believe he's a guy they may

741
00:33:59,320 --> 00:34:02,520
Speaker 1: sneak into the bottom end of Day two UM and

742
00:34:02,600 --> 00:34:04,800
Speaker 1: has the potential to eventually be a starter. I think

743
00:34:05,320 --> 00:34:07,440
Speaker 1: teams are warming up to him because he's a four

744
00:34:07,520 --> 00:34:10,120
Speaker 1: year player and he has some court traits that you

745
00:34:10,200 --> 00:34:16,240
Speaker 1: look for the position. Thank you. Our next question comes

746
00:34:16,280 --> 00:34:20,320
Speaker 1: from Jim klein Pitter from New Orleans Time PI airline

747
00:34:20,360 --> 00:34:25,480
Speaker 1: is now open. Yes for both uh Daniel and Bucky.

748
00:34:25,680 --> 00:34:28,360
Speaker 1: What kind of scenario do you see Leonard from Nette

749
00:34:28,360 --> 00:34:31,840
Speaker 1: creating in this draft? It seems like a consensus that

750
00:34:31,840 --> 00:34:35,080
Speaker 1: he won't get past Jacksonville, but will teams trade up

751
00:34:35,120 --> 00:34:41,280
Speaker 1: for him, especially given Um Ezekiel's success Ezekiel elliott success

752
00:34:41,320 --> 00:34:43,759
Speaker 1: in doubt. Yeah, one thing, you know, we we've all

753
00:34:43,800 --> 00:34:46,200
Speaker 1: talked about Jacksonville being a good fit there and and

754
00:34:46,400 --> 00:34:49,040
Speaker 1: for a number of reasons. I think you look at uh,

755
00:34:49,320 --> 00:34:51,880
Speaker 1: you know, his ability to take some pressure off Blake Bortles,

756
00:34:51,880 --> 00:34:54,560
Speaker 1: which he would do. UM that defense in Jacksonville. I

757
00:34:54,560 --> 00:34:56,120
Speaker 1: mean you look up if you watch them play, and

758
00:34:56,160 --> 00:34:58,480
Speaker 1: then you look at the numbers that they put up defensively.

759
00:34:58,800 --> 00:35:00,840
Speaker 1: That's one of the best young defense is in the NFL.

760
00:35:01,360 --> 00:35:04,000
Speaker 1: And if you can get a running back that can

761
00:35:04,000 --> 00:35:05,919
Speaker 1: control the clock a little bit short in the game,

762
00:35:06,000 --> 00:35:08,719
Speaker 1: keep that defense fresh. I think that Jacks could find

763
00:35:08,719 --> 00:35:11,480
Speaker 1: themselves in a lot of close football games and you

764
00:35:11,520 --> 00:35:13,000
Speaker 1: see if they can't get over the hump here and

765
00:35:13,080 --> 00:35:14,800
Speaker 1: start winning some of them. But I think he's a

766
00:35:14,800 --> 00:35:18,040
Speaker 1: perfect fit there in Jacksonville. I do, though, think I

767
00:35:18,040 --> 00:35:20,400
Speaker 1: wouldn't totally rule out San Francisco. I don't know that

768
00:35:20,440 --> 00:35:22,959
Speaker 1: we've talked about them at all with two um, there's

769
00:35:22,960 --> 00:35:24,759
Speaker 1: been a lot of chatter about them. Maybe trying to

770
00:35:24,800 --> 00:35:27,080
Speaker 1: get out of there with that second pick. And I

771
00:35:27,440 --> 00:35:31,200
Speaker 1: know you have a talented running back there already, but man,

772
00:35:31,239 --> 00:35:33,640
Speaker 1: I I don't know that, uh what I've seen so

773
00:35:33,719 --> 00:35:37,319
Speaker 1: far durability wise. Um, that Carlos Hyde would keep me

774
00:35:37,400 --> 00:35:39,480
Speaker 1: from taking Leonard Fournette if I thought he had a

775
00:35:39,560 --> 00:35:41,000
Speaker 1: chance to be one of the top two or three

776
00:35:41,000 --> 00:35:43,759
Speaker 1: backs in the league. Um, so that to me, John

777
00:35:43,840 --> 00:35:46,960
Speaker 1: Lynch coming in their first draft. Uh, Kyle Shanahan. You know,

778
00:35:47,000 --> 00:35:48,600
Speaker 1: the other side of the argument is that you know

779
00:35:48,640 --> 00:35:50,680
Speaker 1: the Shanahan tree, you go with his dad, They've been

780
00:35:50,719 --> 00:35:52,840
Speaker 1: able to find running backs later on down the board.

781
00:35:53,440 --> 00:35:55,840
Speaker 1: But uh, you know, this is a pretty special player.

782
00:35:55,960 --> 00:35:58,440
Speaker 1: So I wouldn't even rule out him, you know, potentially

783
00:35:58,520 --> 00:36:01,600
Speaker 1: being off the board before Xonville picked, and either with

784
00:36:01,640 --> 00:36:03,800
Speaker 1: San Francisco may be surprising us a little bit. Or

785
00:36:03,840 --> 00:36:06,440
Speaker 1: if somebody tried to get up there ahead of them,

786
00:36:06,760 --> 00:36:09,360
Speaker 1: get ahead at Jacksonville and make that happen. But um,

787
00:36:09,400 --> 00:36:10,840
Speaker 1: he's not going to go to an offensive line as

788
00:36:10,840 --> 00:36:12,920
Speaker 1: good as Zeke Elliotts because the Cowboys aren't taking him

789
00:36:12,920 --> 00:36:14,759
Speaker 1: and they have the best line. But I think he's

790
00:36:14,760 --> 00:36:17,000
Speaker 1: got a chance to have a pretty immediate impact and

791
00:36:17,040 --> 00:36:22,480
Speaker 1: be a big time player. Our next question comes from

792
00:36:22,480 --> 00:36:27,759
Speaker 1: Paul Donowitch from Philadelpha DILLI News. Caroline isn't open. Yeah,

793
00:36:27,800 --> 00:36:30,120
Speaker 1: I wanted to ask you about o J. Howard. Uh.

794
00:36:30,320 --> 00:36:32,799
Speaker 1: Since seven there have only been three tight ends that

795
00:36:32,840 --> 00:36:35,160
Speaker 1: have that have gone in the top ten of the draft.

796
00:36:35,880 --> 00:36:38,880
Speaker 1: What d J? You have him going to the Jets

797
00:36:38,880 --> 00:36:42,080
Speaker 1: at number six right now? What makes him deserving enough

798
00:36:42,200 --> 00:36:44,680
Speaker 1: to go that high in this draft? Yeah, it's a

799
00:36:44,719 --> 00:36:48,080
Speaker 1: good question, um to me. And it's not even starts

800
00:36:48,080 --> 00:36:49,760
Speaker 1: with o J. He's the best tight end this draft,

801
00:36:49,760 --> 00:36:51,120
Speaker 1: but all the way through this is just one of

802
00:36:51,160 --> 00:36:52,640
Speaker 1: the best groups. We've seen it a long time, so

803
00:36:52,640 --> 00:36:55,600
Speaker 1: we haven't seen guys like this very often. Um. The

804
00:36:55,680 --> 00:36:57,719
Speaker 1: thing that that makes him kind of unique is that

805
00:36:57,800 --> 00:37:00,160
Speaker 1: he's he not only can survive in the run game,

806
00:37:00,160 --> 00:37:02,000
Speaker 1: he's pretty darn good at it in terms of the

807
00:37:02,080 --> 00:37:05,040
Speaker 1: run blocker. UM. And you look at somebody that can

808
00:37:05,320 --> 00:37:07,760
Speaker 1: create big plays down the scene with his speed, heightweight,

809
00:37:07,840 --> 00:37:12,279
Speaker 1: speed check check check. Um. The toughness, the durability. The

810
00:37:12,400 --> 00:37:15,400
Speaker 1: one thing that's interesting with him. And I was shocked

811
00:37:15,400 --> 00:37:18,440
Speaker 1: when he went back when he went back to school. UM.

812
00:37:18,480 --> 00:37:20,319
Speaker 1: For this last year, I was at the championship game

813
00:37:20,360 --> 00:37:23,520
Speaker 1: against Clemson that they won the year before, and I thought, Okay,

814
00:37:23,520 --> 00:37:26,160
Speaker 1: he's gonna ride that high, high wave right into the draft.

815
00:37:26,239 --> 00:37:28,560
Speaker 1: Last year, he they you know, talked about how he

816
00:37:28,600 --> 00:37:30,160
Speaker 1: was gonna come back and be a bigger part of

817
00:37:30,200 --> 00:37:33,640
Speaker 1: the offense. Um. He he last year, they threw him

818
00:37:33,680 --> 00:37:36,120
Speaker 1: the ball forty nine times last year. This year he

819
00:37:36,160 --> 00:37:38,640
Speaker 1: came back and they throw the ball fifty nine times,

820
00:37:38,680 --> 00:37:41,200
Speaker 1: So he came back for ten more targets um, which

821
00:37:41,680 --> 00:37:43,040
Speaker 1: you know, I don't think they did him any big

822
00:37:43,080 --> 00:37:44,920
Speaker 1: favorites there, but I think you're talking about an elite

823
00:37:44,920 --> 00:37:47,320
Speaker 1: skill set. You're talking about someone with high character, toughness.

824
00:37:47,640 --> 00:37:49,400
Speaker 1: He really just checks every box. I think he's one

825
00:37:49,440 --> 00:37:51,680
Speaker 1: of the safer picks in the draft, and I think

826
00:37:51,840 --> 00:37:53,680
Speaker 1: to you even go beyond that, He's not the only

827
00:37:53,680 --> 00:37:55,440
Speaker 1: one to say if he's wanted more complete tight and

828
00:37:55,680 --> 00:37:58,000
Speaker 1: Daniel talked about his blocking ability, his ability stretched to

829
00:37:58,040 --> 00:38:01,800
Speaker 1: seem he's dynamic, he's tough, he has worked on his craft,

830
00:38:01,880 --> 00:38:04,319
Speaker 1: and so at the top of the charge, you're trying

831
00:38:04,360 --> 00:38:07,960
Speaker 1: to make sure that you don't miss. He's almost I

832
00:38:07,960 --> 00:38:10,239
Speaker 1: can't miss prospect in terms of what he brings to

833
00:38:10,280 --> 00:38:13,080
Speaker 1: the table. So with those guys, those are special guys,

834
00:38:13,120 --> 00:38:14,680
Speaker 1: and so that's why I think he kind of warrants

835
00:38:14,680 --> 00:38:21,760
Speaker 1: a top ten grade. Our next question comes from Downing

836
00:38:21,800 --> 00:38:25,399
Speaker 1: from Baltimore Ravens. True line, Isn't that so? Guys when

837
00:38:25,400 --> 00:38:27,719
Speaker 1: you when you look at the Ravens, a lot of

838
00:38:27,719 --> 00:38:30,160
Speaker 1: people think they're gonna go wide receiver in this year's

839
00:38:30,360 --> 00:38:32,440
Speaker 1: draft at sixteen, who do you think would be the

840
00:38:32,480 --> 00:38:34,719
Speaker 1: best fit there with and who's the most likely to

841
00:38:34,760 --> 00:38:36,359
Speaker 1: be there out of the you know, the three big

842
00:38:36,400 --> 00:38:40,399
Speaker 1: ones and Mike Williams, Corey Davis and John Ross. Well,

843
00:38:40,400 --> 00:38:42,359
Speaker 1: I mean it's interesting. I think any of the three

844
00:38:42,440 --> 00:38:45,400
Speaker 1: would be you know, would be welcome editions there in Baltimore.

845
00:38:45,760 --> 00:38:47,600
Speaker 1: In terms of who's likely to be there, I think

846
00:38:47,680 --> 00:38:50,279
Speaker 1: there's very little chance Mike Williams is there. I think

847
00:38:50,320 --> 00:38:52,799
Speaker 1: he'll be gone. Um. Corey Davis is a little bit

848
00:38:52,800 --> 00:38:54,680
Speaker 1: of a wild card because of the you know, just

849
00:38:54,719 --> 00:38:56,640
Speaker 1: hasn't Madi able to do anything with his injury. Had

850
00:38:56,640 --> 00:38:59,759
Speaker 1: an ankle on some some legments that required surgery. So

851
00:38:59,760 --> 00:39:02,759
Speaker 1: we have seen him run. Um I still think, man,

852
00:39:02,800 --> 00:39:04,200
Speaker 1: I think that would be a home run pick for

853
00:39:04,200 --> 00:39:06,600
Speaker 1: them because he can do everything. He can play inside, outside,

854
00:39:06,600 --> 00:39:09,560
Speaker 1: he's got the size. UM, he can win on third down,

855
00:39:09,600 --> 00:39:12,800
Speaker 1: he's great after the catch. UM. He's been productive throughout

856
00:39:12,880 --> 00:39:14,879
Speaker 1: his career as a long track record there and really

857
00:39:15,000 --> 00:39:17,200
Speaker 1: pretty durable until we had this, uh, this injury when

858
00:39:17,239 --> 00:39:19,319
Speaker 1: he was training for the combine. So that would be

859
00:39:19,400 --> 00:39:23,680
Speaker 1: my best choice there. John Ross is really really dynamic,

860
00:39:23,760 --> 00:39:27,759
Speaker 1: really explosive, UM, but you've got some durability issues with him.

861
00:39:27,800 --> 00:39:29,279
Speaker 1: You know, when you've got a shoulder and you've you've

862
00:39:29,320 --> 00:39:31,960
Speaker 1: got some lower lake stuff so or some some leg injuries,

863
00:39:32,000 --> 00:39:34,040
Speaker 1: so there's a little bit of risk their health wise,

864
00:39:34,360 --> 00:39:37,480
Speaker 1: and then just size wise. For Flacco is big, strong quarterback,

865
00:39:37,680 --> 00:39:39,840
Speaker 1: Let's get him a big target. I think Corey Davis.

866
00:39:39,880 --> 00:39:42,040
Speaker 1: If you're looking at most likely to be there and

867
00:39:42,040 --> 00:39:43,800
Speaker 1: would be a good fit, that would be my choice.

868
00:39:43,840 --> 00:39:46,080
Speaker 1: I think Corey Davis because he has all the qualities

869
00:39:46,080 --> 00:39:48,160
Speaker 1: to be a number one receiver. I like John Ross,

870
00:39:48,160 --> 00:39:50,600
Speaker 1: but John Ross is a speaster. He can run, roused

871
00:39:50,640 --> 00:39:51,960
Speaker 1: and do those things. But when you look at the

872
00:39:51,960 --> 00:39:55,760
Speaker 1: composition of their roster, they already have speasters on the team.

873
00:39:56,120 --> 00:39:58,400
Speaker 1: They need someone who can do the dirty work, that

874
00:39:58,440 --> 00:40:01,160
Speaker 1: can be a chain mover, and so believe Corey Davis

875
00:40:01,200 --> 00:40:03,040
Speaker 1: is a guy that's better suited to play that number

876
00:40:03,040 --> 00:40:08,120
Speaker 1: one role in that passing game. Thanks guys. Our next

877
00:40:08,160 --> 00:40:11,200
Speaker 1: question comes from Adam John's from the Chicago funt one.

878
00:40:11,239 --> 00:40:14,719
Speaker 1: The airline is not open. Thanks guys. This is a

879
00:40:14,880 --> 00:40:20,319
Speaker 1: quarterback questions for both of you being former scouts. What

880
00:40:20,520 --> 00:40:25,160
Speaker 1: is the widespread use of the shotguns, no huddle, put

881
00:40:25,200 --> 00:40:30,279
Speaker 1: throw offenses in college football done to the evaluation of

882
00:40:30,360 --> 00:40:34,600
Speaker 1: projecting what quarterbacks are and can be and how difficult

883
00:40:34,640 --> 00:40:37,400
Speaker 1: has it become. What antributes do you look for? What

884
00:40:37,560 --> 00:40:40,440
Speaker 1: scares you away from some of these guys? Yeah, I mean,

885
00:40:40,480 --> 00:40:43,200
Speaker 1: for me, the uh you know, I think we get

886
00:40:43,239 --> 00:40:45,120
Speaker 1: hung up on the shotgun part of it. I don't

887
00:40:45,120 --> 00:40:47,080
Speaker 1: think that's a very big deal in terms of these

888
00:40:47,080 --> 00:40:49,040
Speaker 1: guys having a transition. There's so much of the NFL

889
00:40:49,080 --> 00:40:51,279
Speaker 1: games in the shotgun now anyways, that that's really not

890
00:40:51,360 --> 00:40:54,200
Speaker 1: the issue. It's more the offensive systems that they're in.

891
00:40:54,280 --> 00:40:57,040
Speaker 1: It's a lot of just catch rock and throw, catch

892
00:40:57,120 --> 00:40:59,480
Speaker 1: rock and throw. We all the decision making and a

893
00:40:59,480 --> 00:41:02,279
Speaker 1: lot of these offenses is made before the snap. You

894
00:41:02,320 --> 00:41:04,640
Speaker 1: see these guys look over to the sideline right before

895
00:41:04,640 --> 00:41:07,160
Speaker 1: the ball is snapped. Uh, they get their call and

896
00:41:07,200 --> 00:41:09,880
Speaker 1: they know based on alignment of the defense pre snap

897
00:41:09,960 --> 00:41:12,839
Speaker 1: where they're throwing the football immediately it's catch rock throw,

898
00:41:12,960 --> 00:41:15,080
Speaker 1: So all the thinking it's either taking place on the

899
00:41:15,120 --> 00:41:18,080
Speaker 1: sideline or it's taking place before the snap. And the

900
00:41:18,120 --> 00:41:22,000
Speaker 1: biggest adjustment is in the NFL, your pre snap look

901
00:41:22,360 --> 00:41:24,400
Speaker 1: versus what happens as soon as the ball is snapped,

902
00:41:24,400 --> 00:41:27,080
Speaker 1: it completely changes. And and that, to me, is is

903
00:41:27,120 --> 00:41:29,759
Speaker 1: an issue for these quarterbacks making that transition. Is how

904
00:41:29,760 --> 00:41:33,160
Speaker 1: do you think once the ball has been snapped, UM,

905
00:41:33,200 --> 00:41:36,560
Speaker 1: and make those adjustments and and and work through progressions. Now,

906
00:41:36,600 --> 00:41:38,600
Speaker 1: that's one thing I will give Trubisky a little bit

907
00:41:38,600 --> 00:41:40,719
Speaker 1: of credit for is when you watch him this year,

908
00:41:40,760 --> 00:41:43,120
Speaker 1: you see him work through progressions a little bit smoother

909
00:41:43,480 --> 00:41:45,200
Speaker 1: than some of these other guys. You see him get

910
00:41:45,239 --> 00:41:47,240
Speaker 1: to number one to number two to number three after

911
00:41:47,280 --> 00:41:50,560
Speaker 1: the snap. UM. And that's gonna make his transition I

912
00:41:50,600 --> 00:41:52,919
Speaker 1: think a little bit easier. UM, even though I hadn't

913
00:41:52,920 --> 00:41:54,880
Speaker 1: played a lot, But that, to me is the biggest

914
00:41:54,920 --> 00:41:57,239
Speaker 1: challenge is getting these guys to react and to be

915
00:41:57,320 --> 00:42:00,440
Speaker 1: able to make decisions after the ball is snapped because

916
00:42:00,440 --> 00:42:03,359
Speaker 1: they look completely changes at the next level. UH two

917
00:42:04,200 --> 00:42:06,600
Speaker 1: piggyback on what Daniel has said. A lot of the

918
00:42:06,680 --> 00:42:10,680
Speaker 1: evaluation is kind of clouded because all spreads aren't created equal.

919
00:42:11,200 --> 00:42:15,040
Speaker 1: Some spread systems are bubble screens and centered around strictly

920
00:42:15,040 --> 00:42:18,400
Speaker 1: the quick game. Others feature some of the basic concepts

921
00:42:18,440 --> 00:42:21,239
Speaker 1: in the NFL playbook, they're just executing them at a

922
00:42:21,320 --> 00:42:23,880
Speaker 1: rapid pace. And so as you're looking at the film,

923
00:42:23,960 --> 00:42:26,160
Speaker 1: you have to determine what system is the quarterback in,

924
00:42:26,760 --> 00:42:29,120
Speaker 1: how much of the constants, how much of the playbook

925
00:42:29,120 --> 00:42:33,080
Speaker 1: that he's currently using is available in other playbooks. How

926
00:42:33,160 --> 00:42:35,719
Speaker 1: much does he show you when you meet him, how

927
00:42:35,760 --> 00:42:38,560
Speaker 1: I advanced is his i Q and his understanding not

928
00:42:38,680 --> 00:42:41,439
Speaker 1: only of his own playbook but what the defense is doing.

929
00:42:41,880 --> 00:42:44,240
Speaker 1: And Dan, you pointed out a thing that is really critical.

930
00:42:44,480 --> 00:42:47,360
Speaker 1: How does he react to late changing coverage? In the

931
00:42:47,440 --> 00:42:50,680
Speaker 1: National Football League? You have the disguise and the complicated

932
00:42:51,160 --> 00:42:54,040
Speaker 1: movements schemes that defensive coordinators like to throw out of

933
00:42:54,120 --> 00:42:57,040
Speaker 1: quarterbacks to throw them off their game. How quickly Kenny

934
00:42:57,080 --> 00:43:00,840
Speaker 1: decipher that and get to where he needs to find

935
00:43:00,880 --> 00:43:04,239
Speaker 1: the primary or the secondary receiver? And so it's tough

936
00:43:04,360 --> 00:43:08,480
Speaker 1: to evaluate those young quarterbacks. But it's also on the

937
00:43:08,640 --> 00:43:12,040
Speaker 1: offensive coordinator to have a plan in place to meet

938
00:43:12,120 --> 00:43:14,840
Speaker 1: him halfway, to get him up to speed so he

939
00:43:14,880 --> 00:43:18,040
Speaker 1: can be prepared to play in week one or sometime

940
00:43:18,120 --> 00:43:20,120
Speaker 1: during that first year. If that is the plan for

941
00:43:20,280 --> 00:43:22,680
Speaker 1: young quarterback to come in and be drafted high and

942
00:43:22,719 --> 00:43:28,120
Speaker 1: to play right away, Thanks you, guys. Our next question

943
00:43:28,239 --> 00:43:31,080
Speaker 1: comes from Ryan cart j from the Orange County Registers.

944
00:43:31,239 --> 00:43:36,399
Speaker 1: Theirline is not open, guys. The Rams desperately need help

945
00:43:36,400 --> 00:43:39,799
Speaker 1: at both wide receiver and defensive back. In terms of

946
00:43:39,800 --> 00:43:42,800
Speaker 1: what's likely to be available in the second round at seven,

947
00:43:43,239 --> 00:43:45,680
Speaker 1: how would you evaluate that second tier at both of

948
00:43:45,719 --> 00:43:48,880
Speaker 1: those positions and in the Ram situation, given the fact

949
00:43:48,880 --> 00:43:51,920
Speaker 1: that they have so few playmakers on offense, is that

950
00:43:52,000 --> 00:43:53,600
Speaker 1: maybe one of the few times you might take a

951
00:43:53,640 --> 00:43:57,560
Speaker 1: lower rated wide receiver even if there's a better, potentially

952
00:43:57,560 --> 00:44:00,640
Speaker 1: first round cornerback available. No, you never want to do that.

953
00:44:00,719 --> 00:44:02,239
Speaker 1: We we talked about that early in the call. You

954
00:44:02,280 --> 00:44:05,239
Speaker 1: don't want to bypass a great player for just a

955
00:44:05,239 --> 00:44:07,480
Speaker 1: good player, So you don't want to settle um. I

956
00:44:07,520 --> 00:44:10,839
Speaker 1: think for Sean McVeigh and the Rams, it's about trying

957
00:44:10,880 --> 00:44:12,920
Speaker 1: to find a way to put Jerry Golf in a

958
00:44:12,960 --> 00:44:16,480
Speaker 1: situation where he can succeed. So I'm thinking about adding

959
00:44:16,520 --> 00:44:19,360
Speaker 1: the best playmakers that I can find on the perimeter

960
00:44:19,680 --> 00:44:22,160
Speaker 1: to alleviate some of the burden on him to make

961
00:44:22,200 --> 00:44:24,360
Speaker 1: all of these players from the pocket. You know, you

962
00:44:24,360 --> 00:44:26,120
Speaker 1: want to fix the running game with Todd Gurley in

963
00:44:26,120 --> 00:44:28,480
Speaker 1: the offensive line, and so as we're looking at that

964
00:44:28,680 --> 00:44:32,080
Speaker 1: second crew of receivers that may be available starting in

965
00:44:32,120 --> 00:44:35,440
Speaker 1: the second round, Juju Smith Schuster is someone that could

966
00:44:35,480 --> 00:44:37,440
Speaker 1: be available that could help them out. I know they

967
00:44:37,440 --> 00:44:40,480
Speaker 1: signed Robert Woods in the off season. He's not necessarily burning.

968
00:44:40,560 --> 00:44:42,640
Speaker 1: He's more of a possession guy, but you also need

969
00:44:42,680 --> 00:44:45,680
Speaker 1: a bigger body, someone that can win and run those

970
00:44:45,760 --> 00:44:48,359
Speaker 1: quick rhythm routes that are the basis of the West

971
00:44:48,360 --> 00:44:52,000
Speaker 1: Coast offense. Um. I think there's some other guys as

972
00:44:52,000 --> 00:44:54,200
Speaker 1: you kind of get down the line that could help

973
00:44:54,400 --> 00:44:56,240
Speaker 1: Darius Stewart as a guy that can kind of bounce

974
00:44:56,239 --> 00:44:59,240
Speaker 1: around and play outside and inside. Uh you have Maliki

975
00:44:59,360 --> 00:45:01,640
Speaker 1: Dupree and Aosh Malone and some of these other guys

976
00:45:01,840 --> 00:45:04,879
Speaker 1: that are later round picks. But the reality is it's

977
00:45:04,920 --> 00:45:07,600
Speaker 1: going to be tough for the Rams to find a

978
00:45:07,719 --> 00:45:11,440
Speaker 1: huge impact player maybe in the second round. But one

979
00:45:11,440 --> 00:45:13,440
Speaker 1: guy that I forgot is a Jones from East Carolina.

980
00:45:13,560 --> 00:45:15,160
Speaker 1: Z A. Jones could be a guy who can do

981
00:45:15,239 --> 00:45:17,719
Speaker 1: a lot for them in terms of being a vertical playmaker,

982
00:45:17,760 --> 00:45:20,160
Speaker 1: but also run all the routes. He could be guy

983
00:45:20,280 --> 00:45:22,480
Speaker 1: that is sitting right there for them at pick thirty

984
00:45:22,520 --> 00:45:24,160
Speaker 1: seven when they're picking in the second round, and if

985
00:45:24,200 --> 00:45:25,880
Speaker 1: they wanted a big corner, I just keep an eye

986
00:45:25,880 --> 00:45:27,799
Speaker 1: on Rusul Douglas. I think that's kind of the range

987
00:45:27,800 --> 00:45:29,800
Speaker 1: you'll see him. He's a big corner from West Virginia.

988
00:45:29,840 --> 00:45:32,640
Speaker 1: He's got a ton of interception production. Um, he's an

989
00:45:32,680 --> 00:45:34,600
Speaker 1: interesting prospect. I think we'll see go off the board

990
00:45:34,600 --> 00:45:40,439
Speaker 1: in that range. Thanks. Our next question comes from Kyle

991
00:45:40,520 --> 00:45:45,040
Speaker 1: Mackey from m love dot com. Your line is not open, Hey, fellas,

992
00:45:45,360 --> 00:45:49,000
Speaker 1: just curious on your take on this running back class

993
00:45:49,000 --> 00:45:51,680
Speaker 1: and in particular what kind of fit you see it

994
00:45:51,680 --> 00:45:54,000
Speaker 1: from the Lions who maybe it fits the faster than

995
00:45:54,040 --> 00:45:56,640
Speaker 1: the early rounds and middle rounds and specifically Jill Nixon.

996
00:45:56,640 --> 00:45:58,320
Speaker 1: They've been linked to him quick but what do you

997
00:45:58,360 --> 00:46:00,480
Speaker 1: think about Nixon and where he goes and how he

998
00:46:00,480 --> 00:46:04,200
Speaker 1: sits in Detroit? Uh? Taking away his off the field stuff.

999
00:46:04,560 --> 00:46:06,879
Speaker 1: On the field, he may be the most talented running

1000
00:46:06,920 --> 00:46:09,520
Speaker 1: back in the class. He has all the trades that

1001
00:46:09,600 --> 00:46:12,480
Speaker 1: you look for in a big time number one running back.

1002
00:46:12,640 --> 00:46:15,040
Speaker 1: He's big, he's fast, he's physical, he can catch the

1003
00:46:15,120 --> 00:46:18,279
Speaker 1: ball out the backfield. He's also an impact player in

1004
00:46:18,320 --> 00:46:20,960
Speaker 1: the return game. I have compared him multiple times to

1005
00:46:21,080 --> 00:46:24,759
Speaker 1: David Johnson from Arizona in terms of how he can

1006
00:46:24,840 --> 00:46:28,279
Speaker 1: play at the next level. The Detroit Lions need a

1007
00:46:28,360 --> 00:46:30,279
Speaker 1: bigger running back and running back that can be a

1008
00:46:30,719 --> 00:46:33,880
Speaker 1: twenty plus carry a game guy. They've tried to do

1009
00:46:33,960 --> 00:46:35,880
Speaker 1: it with the little guys that are more pass catches,

1010
00:46:35,920 --> 00:46:38,399
Speaker 1: but they need a true running back that can help

1011
00:46:38,800 --> 00:46:41,160
Speaker 1: alleviate the bird on Matt Stafford to have to throw

1012
00:46:41,200 --> 00:46:43,400
Speaker 1: the ball thirty five or forty times a game. If

1013
00:46:43,440 --> 00:46:46,200
Speaker 1: they can find a feature back like a Mixing or

1014
00:46:46,400 --> 00:46:48,359
Speaker 1: some of these other big backs in the draft, then

1015
00:46:48,400 --> 00:46:50,960
Speaker 1: I think you'll see that offense evolved and become one

1016
00:46:51,000 --> 00:46:53,520
Speaker 1: that is more suited to being a perennial playoff contender.

1017
00:46:53,760 --> 00:46:56,200
Speaker 1: Running back that I love for them, um I think

1018
00:46:56,280 --> 00:46:58,360
Speaker 1: would be a great fit to compliment what they already have.

1019
00:46:58,440 --> 00:47:01,080
Speaker 1: A Cream Hunt from Toledo, and he's He's almost two

1020
00:47:01,400 --> 00:47:04,600
Speaker 1: twenty pounds, not the most explosive guy, but you talk

1021
00:47:04,640 --> 00:47:07,480
Speaker 1: about somebody that runs behind his pads, between the tackles,

1022
00:47:07,560 --> 00:47:10,319
Speaker 1: can grind out tough yards. Um, he's a little more

1023
00:47:10,360 --> 00:47:12,480
Speaker 1: elusive than he gets credit for, and he had a

1024
00:47:12,560 --> 00:47:14,319
Speaker 1: nice week down at the Senior Bowl. I think he'd

1025
00:47:14,320 --> 00:47:16,680
Speaker 1: be a great value pick. You're probably talking about him

1026
00:47:16,719 --> 00:47:22,520
Speaker 1: in that third round range X question comes from Mike

1027
00:47:22,600 --> 00:47:27,560
Speaker 1: Barber from the Richmond Times. This hot sheerline is now open. Hey, guys,

1028
00:47:27,640 --> 00:47:30,200
Speaker 1: thanks for doing this. Bucky. You opened by talking about

1029
00:47:30,280 --> 00:47:33,040
Speaker 1: some of the matchup problem tight ends in this draft.

1030
00:47:33,320 --> 00:47:36,440
Speaker 1: I wonder if you could give me your outlook for

1031
00:47:36,560 --> 00:47:40,240
Speaker 1: Bucky Hodges from Virginia Tech. Uh and if playing receiver

1032
00:47:40,400 --> 00:47:43,120
Speaker 1: makes it hard to evaluate him and Daniel you talked

1033
00:47:43,160 --> 00:47:46,680
Speaker 1: about some of the Um Thinness Maybe at quarterback this year.

1034
00:47:46,920 --> 00:47:49,560
Speaker 1: Gerard Evans a guy who left Virginia Tech early, also

1035
00:47:50,280 --> 00:47:52,759
Speaker 1: only one year of major college film. How do you

1036
00:47:52,840 --> 00:47:56,840
Speaker 1: evaluate him and what's your outlook on him? Bucky Hodges

1037
00:47:57,000 --> 00:48:00,040
Speaker 1: is in triguing prospect. He does play wide receiver a

1038
00:48:00,120 --> 00:48:03,360
Speaker 1: Virginia Tech. He's not necessarily an inline blocker, and he

1039
00:48:03,600 --> 00:48:06,120
Speaker 1: is viewed as a matchup nightmare. I think the thing

1040
00:48:06,239 --> 00:48:08,799
Speaker 1: that helps him has been the success of Jordan Read.

1041
00:48:09,160 --> 00:48:11,000
Speaker 1: What Jordan Reid has been able to do for the

1042
00:48:11,160 --> 00:48:15,880
Speaker 1: Washington Ridskins has intrigued a bunch of offensive coordinator to

1043
00:48:15,960 --> 00:48:18,319
Speaker 1: try and find someone who can do similar things. When

1044
00:48:18,360 --> 00:48:20,319
Speaker 1: I look at Bucky Hodges, I do believe he's going

1045
00:48:20,360 --> 00:48:22,360
Speaker 1: to have to transition from me an outside player to

1046
00:48:22,400 --> 00:48:24,080
Speaker 1: a guy that can get it done in the slot.

1047
00:48:24,640 --> 00:48:26,920
Speaker 1: He has nice size, he has nice hands, he can

1048
00:48:26,960 --> 00:48:29,399
Speaker 1: go and play above the rim. You do worry about

1049
00:48:29,440 --> 00:48:32,360
Speaker 1: his ability to separate and handle some of the physicality

1050
00:48:32,400 --> 00:48:35,200
Speaker 1: and contact that may come from dealing with linebackers as

1051
00:48:35,239 --> 00:48:37,560
Speaker 1: he's trying to get open. But I like him in

1052
00:48:37,680 --> 00:48:40,719
Speaker 1: the third round range as someone that can be that

1053
00:48:41,120 --> 00:48:43,040
Speaker 1: H or that F tight end that is to move

1054
00:48:43,160 --> 00:48:46,239
Speaker 1: tight end that plays in two tight insists. But he

1055
00:48:46,360 --> 00:48:48,759
Speaker 1: may be more of the wide receiver like tight end

1056
00:48:48,800 --> 00:48:51,000
Speaker 1: as opposed to the inline blocker. And with Evans, I

1057
00:48:51,080 --> 00:48:53,799
Speaker 1: went to their UH to their bowl game and UH,

1058
00:48:54,680 --> 00:48:57,120
Speaker 1: actually no was the UH was a CC championship game

1059
00:48:57,120 --> 00:48:59,879
Speaker 1: against Clemson, and UH. I was talking to a couple

1060
00:48:59,880 --> 00:49:01,960
Speaker 1: of friends, a couple of executives with NFL teams down

1061
00:49:01,960 --> 00:49:04,080
Speaker 1: on the field before the game, and we're talking about

1062
00:49:04,120 --> 00:49:05,920
Speaker 1: the senior prospects, and I said, all right, let's can

1063
00:49:05,920 --> 00:49:08,160
Speaker 1: you let's go over some guys who could potentially come out.

1064
00:49:08,200 --> 00:49:10,480
Speaker 1: So we talked about Isaiah four, We talked about uh

1065
00:49:10,560 --> 00:49:13,480
Speaker 1: some of the players from Miami, and uh Evan's name

1066
00:49:13,600 --> 00:49:15,879
Speaker 1: never even came up. So I was kind of blindsided

1067
00:49:15,920 --> 00:49:18,600
Speaker 1: when he came out. I was shocked. UM went back

1068
00:49:18,680 --> 00:49:20,759
Speaker 1: and studied him, and you talked about somebody that has

1069
00:49:20,800 --> 00:49:22,640
Speaker 1: I mean, has a big arm. He can make every throw.

1070
00:49:22,760 --> 00:49:25,160
Speaker 1: He has some wild plays when you watch him, but

1071
00:49:25,320 --> 00:49:26,880
Speaker 1: you see some of the issues. I don't think he

1072
00:49:26,960 --> 00:49:29,440
Speaker 1: has good pocket awareness. Um. I thought he locked on

1073
00:49:29,520 --> 00:49:33,520
Speaker 1: and forced some footballs. Um. So there's he's a raw player.

1074
00:49:33,560 --> 00:49:35,839
Speaker 1: I mean he I was very surprised that he came out,

1075
00:49:35,960 --> 00:49:38,080
Speaker 1: but I think he's somebody that's gonna find his way

1076
00:49:38,160 --> 00:49:40,560
Speaker 1: in that. You know, probably the fifth round would be

1077
00:49:40,560 --> 00:49:42,680
Speaker 1: the high water mark. You're probably talking more like a

1078
00:49:42,760 --> 00:49:45,239
Speaker 1: six or seventh round pick who's gonna come in and

1079
00:49:45,320 --> 00:49:48,200
Speaker 1: be a true developmental player in terms of what the

1080
00:49:48,280 --> 00:49:51,040
Speaker 1: plan of what he could eventually be. I think, uh,

1081
00:49:51,360 --> 00:49:53,719
Speaker 1: you know, just watching him throw the football, watching him throw,

1082
00:49:53,840 --> 00:49:55,480
Speaker 1: he remind me a little bit of David Garrard who

1083
00:49:55,560 --> 00:49:57,440
Speaker 1: had some success there with the Jags for for a

1084
00:49:57,480 --> 00:49:59,560
Speaker 1: little bit. So that would be if you take him,

1085
00:49:59,560 --> 00:50:01,319
Speaker 1: I think that you're hoping one day he can become

1086
00:50:01,960 --> 00:50:05,480
Speaker 1: Thank you. Our next question comes from Chrystallary from the

1087
00:50:05,600 --> 00:50:09,839
Speaker 1: Tricks Free Press. Hey, guys, one of the most polarizing

1088
00:50:10,640 --> 00:50:13,759
Speaker 1: prospects in the draft right now is Malik McDowall. Was

1089
00:50:13,760 --> 00:50:16,560
Speaker 1: wondering if you could address kind of where he is

1090
00:50:16,760 --> 00:50:20,560
Speaker 1: in terms of talent versus questions. And then also another

1091
00:50:20,640 --> 00:50:24,799
Speaker 1: Michigan stake, Monte Nicholson coming off the shoulder surgery had

1092
00:50:24,960 --> 00:50:28,640
Speaker 1: what how much is helping him as the combine versus

1093
00:50:28,719 --> 00:50:31,839
Speaker 1: that injury. I'll jump in on on mcdowa here real quick.

1094
00:50:31,880 --> 00:50:34,320
Speaker 1: He's tough for me. I mean, I think you know

1095
00:50:34,480 --> 00:50:38,160
Speaker 1: you you you're trying to h you're trying to guess

1096
00:50:38,160 --> 00:50:40,160
Speaker 1: on which Malik McDowell you're gonna get? Are you gonna

1097
00:50:40,200 --> 00:50:42,600
Speaker 1: get the guy that I watched against Notre Dame. Um

1098
00:50:42,880 --> 00:50:46,520
Speaker 1: that was explosive. Um was making plays all over the field,

1099
00:50:46,880 --> 00:50:51,960
Speaker 1: was playing hard. Um showed active hands. Um he was impressive.

1100
00:50:52,000 --> 00:50:54,160
Speaker 1: You see the quickness, you see the explosiveness, you see

1101
00:50:54,800 --> 00:50:57,160
Speaker 1: the want to and then you watch some other games

1102
00:50:57,239 --> 00:50:58,840
Speaker 1: and it's like he didn't want to be out on

1103
00:50:58,920 --> 00:51:00,680
Speaker 1: the field. And one of the things that when I'm

1104
00:51:00,680 --> 00:51:03,400
Speaker 1: watching defensive lineman, I always want them to be in

1105
00:51:03,480 --> 00:51:05,040
Speaker 1: the frame at the end of a play. So I

1106
00:51:05,040 --> 00:51:07,000
Speaker 1: don't you know, if it's if it's a wide receiver screen,

1107
00:51:07,080 --> 00:51:09,200
Speaker 1: if it's a toss um, even if it's a throw

1108
00:51:09,239 --> 00:51:11,960
Speaker 1: down the field, you're seeing guys break tackles. Malik McDowell

1109
00:51:12,080 --> 00:51:14,200
Speaker 1: drove me nuts because there's so many plays he didn't

1110
00:51:14,200 --> 00:51:16,000
Speaker 1: make his way into the picture frame at the end

1111
00:51:16,000 --> 00:51:19,000
Speaker 1: of a play, just just no effort. So to me,

1112
00:51:19,200 --> 00:51:21,160
Speaker 1: he's a tough one all the ability in the world.

1113
00:51:21,440 --> 00:51:24,040
Speaker 1: He's got as much upside as any defensive lineman in

1114
00:51:24,080 --> 00:51:26,279
Speaker 1: the draft because you see him dominate at times. He

1115
00:51:26,360 --> 00:51:30,440
Speaker 1: just isn't consistent. Um. For comparison, Chris Jones was a

1116
00:51:30,480 --> 00:51:32,440
Speaker 1: little bit like that out of Mississippi State last year

1117
00:51:32,480 --> 00:51:35,520
Speaker 1: that went to Kansas City. Um. I see some similarities

1118
00:51:35,560 --> 00:51:37,560
Speaker 1: there with Malik McDowell, But I thought Chris Jones brought

1119
00:51:37,600 --> 00:51:39,960
Speaker 1: it a little bit more consistently than McDowell, did you know.

1120
00:51:40,000 --> 00:51:43,400
Speaker 1: I think about Nicholson. Uh, Nicholson has kind of the

1121
00:51:43,520 --> 00:51:46,560
Speaker 1: qualities that you look for highway speed UH six two two,

1122
00:51:46,640 --> 00:51:49,480
Speaker 1: twelve four four two forty time. The thing is, in

1123
00:51:49,600 --> 00:51:52,120
Speaker 1: this draft class, you look for guys that are a

1124
00:51:52,160 --> 00:51:55,759
Speaker 1: little more dynamic, meaning either they are smashes against a

1125
00:51:55,880 --> 00:51:58,799
Speaker 1: run game or they make a number of plays as

1126
00:51:58,840 --> 00:52:01,880
Speaker 1: center fielder types. And when you look at his production

1127
00:52:02,200 --> 00:52:05,920
Speaker 1: four interceptions in twenty five games, um not necessarily a

1128
00:52:06,000 --> 00:52:07,680
Speaker 1: playmaker in the past game. He can come down and

1129
00:52:07,719 --> 00:52:09,880
Speaker 1: he can make tackles. I just don't believe there's a

1130
00:52:09,960 --> 00:52:12,680
Speaker 1: high value in that. Maybe somewhere in day three he

1131
00:52:12,760 --> 00:52:14,719
Speaker 1: comes off the board, but I don't think he is

1132
00:52:14,800 --> 00:52:17,080
Speaker 1: in that tier one or tier group of the safeties

1133
00:52:17,080 --> 00:52:22,440
Speaker 1: in this class. Our next question comes from Ron comments

1134
00:52:22,520 --> 00:52:27,120
Speaker 1: from on this port your line is not open. Well, gentlemen,

1135
00:52:27,520 --> 00:52:31,239
Speaker 1: I gotta questions on a couple of guys. First time,

1136
00:52:31,680 --> 00:52:34,239
Speaker 1: What do you guys think of a couple of running

1137
00:52:34,280 --> 00:52:37,640
Speaker 1: backs Joe Williams from Utah and Wyoming's Bryan Hill. And

1138
00:52:37,760 --> 00:52:40,520
Speaker 1: then a linebacker from Arizona, Paul mcglore. I know he

1139
00:52:40,600 --> 00:52:42,800
Speaker 1: had a really good East East West game. Curious to

1140
00:52:42,840 --> 00:52:45,640
Speaker 1: get your opinion on him. And the last question, does

1141
00:52:45,719 --> 00:52:49,399
Speaker 1: Dave Jones get into the first round? Yeah, I'll I'll

1142
00:52:49,480 --> 00:52:51,960
Speaker 1: tackle the first one here with Chill Williams and Brian Hill.

1143
00:52:52,040 --> 00:52:54,120
Speaker 1: Joe Williams is interesting. I just finished him up the

1144
00:52:54,160 --> 00:52:57,040
Speaker 1: other day. Um actually tweet out a couple of clips

1145
00:52:57,080 --> 00:53:00,279
Speaker 1: of him, and look, it's it's complicated. You gotta through

1146
00:53:00,320 --> 00:53:02,880
Speaker 1: the whole issues. Everybody knows the story. Got some trouble

1147
00:53:03,400 --> 00:53:06,799
Speaker 1: previous school, ended up at Utah. UM left the team,

1148
00:53:06,920 --> 00:53:09,000
Speaker 1: quit the team, however you want to. Every wanna call

1149
00:53:09,080 --> 00:53:11,719
Speaker 1: it that he's had some had a personal tragedy and

1150
00:53:11,800 --> 00:53:15,239
Speaker 1: his family UM several years ago and has you know,

1151
00:53:15,280 --> 00:53:16,959
Speaker 1: struggled to deal with that a little bit. He tells

1152
00:53:17,000 --> 00:53:19,160
Speaker 1: the whole story. So he got to sort through all

1153
00:53:19,200 --> 00:53:21,359
Speaker 1: that stuff. But once he came back to the team

1154
00:53:21,400 --> 00:53:23,239
Speaker 1: at Utah and you watched him for the rest of

1155
00:53:23,320 --> 00:53:25,960
Speaker 1: the season. I went through those games and I'm telling you,

1156
00:53:26,040 --> 00:53:29,320
Speaker 1: I thought he ran like a second round talent player,

1157
00:53:29,400 --> 00:53:31,800
Speaker 1: Like he's gonna be an NFL starter. He has NFL

1158
00:53:31,840 --> 00:53:35,399
Speaker 1: starter ability. You see big time burst. Um, he's got

1159
00:53:35,880 --> 00:53:39,239
Speaker 1: h excellent change of direction. He's I thought he had

1160
00:53:39,280 --> 00:53:42,200
Speaker 1: good vision. He is an explosive player. He gets out

1161
00:53:42,200 --> 00:53:44,239
Speaker 1: in the open field, he's gone. He ran really hard

1162
00:53:44,280 --> 00:53:47,080
Speaker 1: against a really good Washington front. He torched U C

1163
00:53:47,239 --> 00:53:49,480
Speaker 1: l A. When I watched that game. Um So, as

1164
00:53:49,560 --> 00:53:52,480
Speaker 1: a player just off those games in a vacuum, I

1165
00:53:52,520 --> 00:53:54,800
Speaker 1: think he's a in a in a normal draft, probably

1166
00:53:54,840 --> 00:53:57,239
Speaker 1: a second round player in this draft. In a loaded

1167
00:53:57,320 --> 00:54:00,160
Speaker 1: running back draft, he's probably would go in the third. Now,

1168
00:54:00,200 --> 00:54:02,440
Speaker 1: when you factor in all the off the field stuff

1169
00:54:02,440 --> 00:54:04,400
Speaker 1: and try and put that all together, I don't think

1170
00:54:04,440 --> 00:54:06,359
Speaker 1: he's gonna go that high. I think you're probably talking

1171
00:54:06,400 --> 00:54:09,799
Speaker 1: about him more in that fifth round range. But somebody, if, if,

1172
00:54:09,920 --> 00:54:13,520
Speaker 1: if he is um, if he's dedicated and and and

1173
00:54:13,680 --> 00:54:16,480
Speaker 1: on it, ability wise, he could be a big time

1174
00:54:16,520 --> 00:54:19,239
Speaker 1: steal for somebody. Brian Hill is a big power back.

1175
00:54:19,400 --> 00:54:22,920
Speaker 1: He's physical, he runs hard. I not think he's very elusive,

1176
00:54:23,160 --> 00:54:26,279
Speaker 1: had some some issues with his vision. Um. He was

1177
00:54:26,360 --> 00:54:29,640
Speaker 1: down a little bit lower for me. Um, But you know, look,

1178
00:54:29,680 --> 00:54:31,239
Speaker 1: you've got you've got some size and you've got some

1179
00:54:31,280 --> 00:54:33,640
Speaker 1: power to work with with him, you know. In terms

1180
00:54:33,680 --> 00:54:36,360
Speaker 1: of z Jones, I don't believe his A jone sneaks

1181
00:54:36,400 --> 00:54:38,359
Speaker 1: into the first round. I do believe he's a top

1182
00:54:38,400 --> 00:54:40,839
Speaker 1: of the second round talent. He was very impressive at

1183
00:54:40,840 --> 00:54:44,640
Speaker 1: the Senior Bowl. Outstanding route runner, very skilled and polished

1184
00:54:44,680 --> 00:54:46,680
Speaker 1: in the way that he sets up defenders, does a

1185
00:54:46,760 --> 00:54:48,960
Speaker 1: great job of catching the ball away from the frame

1186
00:54:49,040 --> 00:54:52,040
Speaker 1: of his body. And he's been very, very productive in

1187
00:54:52,160 --> 00:54:54,799
Speaker 1: that offense at East Carolina. And so because he's has

1188
00:54:54,880 --> 00:54:58,920
Speaker 1: so much production, because he has um natural skills as

1189
00:54:58,960 --> 00:55:01,439
Speaker 1: a route runner, I believe he's a guy that goes

1190
00:55:01,480 --> 00:55:04,520
Speaker 1: in the top forty. And Paul mcglore is somebody that

1191
00:55:04,640 --> 00:55:07,359
Speaker 1: why evaluate I'm just looking at my grade right here. Um,

1192
00:55:07,480 --> 00:55:09,919
Speaker 1: I gave him a practice squad grade. So you're talking

1193
00:55:09,960 --> 00:55:11,759
Speaker 1: about somebody that's gonna need some time to sit and

1194
00:55:11,840 --> 00:55:15,040
Speaker 1: develop a little bit undersize, but can really run. Um,

1195
00:55:15,160 --> 00:55:16,680
Speaker 1: So he was somebody I kind of you more than

1196
00:55:16,719 --> 00:55:20,400
Speaker 1: that six seventh round range. Is mcglore kind of a

1197
00:55:20,480 --> 00:55:22,960
Speaker 1: dion began in type players to see that potential. I

1198
00:55:23,239 --> 00:55:26,120
Speaker 1: don't think he was quite that explosive to put him

1199
00:55:26,160 --> 00:55:27,680
Speaker 1: in that to put him in that class, I mean,

1200
00:55:27,680 --> 00:55:29,880
Speaker 1: I think you'd probably his usage would be similar in

1201
00:55:30,000 --> 00:55:31,239
Speaker 1: terms of how you would play him and what you

1202
00:55:31,280 --> 00:55:33,320
Speaker 1: would do with him. But I didn't think he was

1203
00:55:33,560 --> 00:55:35,080
Speaker 1: he was that type of a player. I think you're

1204
00:55:35,120 --> 00:55:37,480
Speaker 1: talking about him as a late round pick. Our next

1205
00:55:37,600 --> 00:55:40,600
Speaker 1: question comes from Ray Fitty Polo from Pittsburg Post Gazatti.

1206
00:55:40,680 --> 00:55:43,400
Speaker 1: Your line isn't nettled in god, I think there were

1207
00:55:43,440 --> 00:55:45,759
Speaker 1: six edge rushers taken in the first round in two

1208
00:55:45,840 --> 00:55:48,959
Speaker 1: thousand and thirteen, and I think five of those teams

1209
00:55:48,960 --> 00:55:51,560
Speaker 1: could draft another edge high in this draft because you

1210
00:55:51,600 --> 00:55:53,759
Speaker 1: know their picks to and make as a second contracts.

1211
00:55:54,480 --> 00:55:57,560
Speaker 1: Why is that edge rusher such a difficulty evaluations for

1212
00:55:58,239 --> 00:56:00,719
Speaker 1: for gms and coaches. And the second part of the

1213
00:56:00,800 --> 00:56:03,839
Speaker 1: question is or some of these guys being pushed up

1214
00:56:03,880 --> 00:56:06,520
Speaker 1: because there are more three or four teams in the

1215
00:56:06,640 --> 00:56:08,840
Speaker 1: NFL amount. I would just caution, first of all, I

1216
00:56:08,920 --> 00:56:12,879
Speaker 1: would not compare anything to the draft class because it's

1217
00:56:13,080 --> 00:56:15,279
Speaker 1: literally one of the worst draft classes that we've seen.

1218
00:56:15,320 --> 00:56:18,160
Speaker 1: I mean, there's bus all throughout that so I'm always

1219
00:56:18,200 --> 00:56:21,319
Speaker 1: a little bit hesitant to draw any conclusions from that group. Um.

1220
00:56:21,560 --> 00:56:25,520
Speaker 1: The challenge, the challenge with edge rushers, it's it's hard

1221
00:56:25,640 --> 00:56:28,279
Speaker 1: to evaluate these uh you know, these edge rushers in

1222
00:56:28,400 --> 00:56:31,400
Speaker 1: some of these college systems. Doing an edge rusher in

1223
00:56:31,440 --> 00:56:34,120
Speaker 1: the Big twelve where it is so much bubble screen

1224
00:56:34,239 --> 00:56:36,040
Speaker 1: right and left, you don't get a chance to see

1225
00:56:36,040 --> 00:56:38,319
Speaker 1: these guys really get a good hard rush on people

1226
00:56:38,360 --> 00:56:40,440
Speaker 1: at times. So, um, that's a little bit of a

1227
00:56:40,520 --> 00:56:43,120
Speaker 1: challenge there with some of the changes to the college game.

1228
00:56:43,239 --> 00:56:45,560
Speaker 1: But uh um, you know, I wouldn't I would go

1229
00:56:45,680 --> 00:56:47,799
Speaker 1: back to two thousand thirteen. I wouldn't read too much

1230
00:56:47,800 --> 00:56:49,600
Speaker 1: into that. There's a lot of people that pick players

1231
00:56:49,640 --> 00:56:51,080
Speaker 1: in that draft that are right back in the market

1232
00:56:51,120 --> 00:56:54,840
Speaker 1: at the same position this year. I think the challenge

1233
00:56:54,880 --> 00:56:57,600
Speaker 1: with any of the pass rushers are trying to find

1234
00:56:57,640 --> 00:56:59,799
Speaker 1: guys who have the traits. When I'm looking for trades

1235
00:56:59,840 --> 00:57:02,239
Speaker 1: on film, I'm looking at first step quickness, I'm looking

1236
00:57:02,320 --> 00:57:04,840
Speaker 1: at hand to hand combat skills, and do they have

1237
00:57:05,040 --> 00:57:08,080
Speaker 1: the ability to go quickly to account of when their

1238
00:57:08,360 --> 00:57:11,440
Speaker 1: fastball is taken away? And in this draft, I just

1239
00:57:11,520 --> 00:57:13,640
Speaker 1: simply believe that there are a number of pass rushes

1240
00:57:13,640 --> 00:57:15,879
Speaker 1: who are fully equipped to be able to be double

1241
00:57:15,920 --> 00:57:18,440
Speaker 1: digit sack artists at the next level. And so when

1242
00:57:18,440 --> 00:57:20,840
Speaker 1: you're looking at those trades, and regardless of whether teams

1243
00:57:20,840 --> 00:57:24,320
Speaker 1: say they're four three or three or four squads, most

1244
00:57:24,400 --> 00:57:27,120
Speaker 1: teams get into some kind of four man front on

1245
00:57:27,400 --> 00:57:30,040
Speaker 1: passing downs on third down, and so most of the

1246
00:57:30,160 --> 00:57:33,520
Speaker 1: time most guys can fit into any scheme because the

1247
00:57:33,600 --> 00:57:37,240
Speaker 1: teams are gonna play nickel packages predominantly in their base

1248
00:57:37,360 --> 00:57:40,680
Speaker 1: defense more so than anything goes. Our next question comes

1249
00:57:40,720 --> 00:57:46,240
Speaker 1: from Donald from Cleveland. Heroine is, Hey, guys, Um, you

1250
00:57:46,360 --> 00:57:49,320
Speaker 1: both obviously have mild Garrett is your top prospect, and

1251
00:57:49,720 --> 00:57:52,400
Speaker 1: you know he's been the consensus number one for the Browns.

1252
00:57:52,480 --> 00:57:55,000
Speaker 1: But now there's just reports that the Browns might be split,

1253
00:57:55,080 --> 00:57:57,920
Speaker 1: they might still be thinking quarterback. I'm just wondering what

1254
00:57:58,040 --> 00:58:00,800
Speaker 1: your thoughts would be the Browns did, in fact pass

1255
00:58:00,840 --> 00:58:04,040
Speaker 1: on Miles Garrett to take a quarterback. Well, I have

1256
00:58:04,160 --> 00:58:06,240
Speaker 1: to pick myself off off the floor first of all,

1257
00:58:06,520 --> 00:58:08,600
Speaker 1: and then uh, and then my thought would be that

1258
00:58:08,760 --> 00:58:12,200
Speaker 1: that they've made a big mistake. Um, you know they have.

1259
00:58:12,480 --> 00:58:14,800
Speaker 1: They definitely have a need at the quarterback position, There's

1260
00:58:14,800 --> 00:58:16,680
Speaker 1: no question about it. I don't think the team is

1261
00:58:16,800 --> 00:58:19,240
Speaker 1: very good right now. I think there's a lot of

1262
00:58:19,440 --> 00:58:22,440
Speaker 1: other pieces that need to be in place. So UH,

1263
00:58:22,520 --> 00:58:24,480
Speaker 1: to me, I would rather continue to build up the

1264
00:58:24,560 --> 00:58:27,280
Speaker 1: rest of your roster and then at the right time

1265
00:58:27,320 --> 00:58:30,400
Speaker 1: insert the right quarterback. Um, and maybe you can find

1266
00:58:30,480 --> 00:58:33,120
Speaker 1: that guy. I wouldn't love it at twelve, but I

1267
00:58:33,200 --> 00:58:36,160
Speaker 1: could I could at least justify it. But to pass

1268
00:58:36,280 --> 00:58:38,600
Speaker 1: on the best player, not only the best player in

1269
00:58:38,640 --> 00:58:41,240
Speaker 1: the draft, the best player who's also at a premier position,

1270
00:58:41,320 --> 00:58:43,920
Speaker 1: which you would put right behind quarterback in edge rusher.

1271
00:58:44,600 --> 00:58:46,560
Speaker 1: Um to push a quarterback all the way up the board,

1272
00:58:46,600 --> 00:58:49,440
Speaker 1: I think would be a huge mistake. I've been advocating

1273
00:58:49,480 --> 00:58:51,200
Speaker 1: for a long time with the Browns in this draft

1274
00:58:51,280 --> 00:58:54,000
Speaker 1: at one and twelve, just get sure fire players you

1275
00:58:54,040 --> 00:58:56,200
Speaker 1: can plug in. They've got a chance to be Pro Bowlers.

1276
00:58:56,320 --> 00:58:58,600
Speaker 1: And you get Miles Garrett and you you team him

1277
00:58:58,680 --> 00:59:01,640
Speaker 1: up with somebody like O. J. How Word. Um, I

1278
00:59:01,720 --> 00:59:03,360
Speaker 1: think you know exactly what you get, and you've got

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00:59:03,440 --> 00:59:05,440
Speaker 1: building block pieces that you can add to what you

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00:59:05,520 --> 00:59:08,400
Speaker 1: already have. UM. I just I don't I don't get

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00:59:08,440 --> 00:59:10,800
Speaker 1: the idea of of of reaching. And that would be

1282
00:59:10,880 --> 00:59:13,120
Speaker 1: a major league reach to me if they took a

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00:59:13,240 --> 00:59:16,280
Speaker 1: quarterback at one over Miles Garrett. I agree with Daniel

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00:59:16,320 --> 00:59:18,400
Speaker 1: I I don't believe there's a quarterback that is worthy

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00:59:18,520 --> 00:59:20,320
Speaker 1: being the number one pick. I don't think there's a

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00:59:20,400 --> 00:59:22,560
Speaker 1: quarterback that any of us would say is the best

1287
00:59:22,680 --> 00:59:27,200
Speaker 1: player in the seventeen class. With Miles Garrett, you're getting

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00:59:27,200 --> 00:59:29,640
Speaker 1: the guy that is solid, he plays a premier position.

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00:59:29,800 --> 00:59:31,720
Speaker 1: He should be able to play that position for the

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00:59:31,800 --> 00:59:33,680
Speaker 1: next eight to ten years at a very very high

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00:59:33,760 --> 00:59:36,120
Speaker 1: level in a division where you need to be able

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00:59:36,120 --> 00:59:38,920
Speaker 1: to get after the passer. Also, when you come down

1293
00:59:38,960 --> 00:59:41,000
Speaker 1: to twelve, I think you still have to evaluate your

1294
00:59:41,040 --> 00:59:43,560
Speaker 1: board and see where did those quarterbacks stack up. But

1295
00:59:43,720 --> 00:59:46,520
Speaker 1: I'm not inclined to take a quarterback just because the

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00:59:46,560 --> 00:59:48,800
Speaker 1: public sentiment is that we need a quarterback to get

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Speaker 1: to the next level. I think if you continue to

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00:59:50,960 --> 00:59:53,240
Speaker 1: build up the auxiliary pieces and just wait for the

1299
00:59:53,360 --> 00:59:56,440
Speaker 1: quarterback to show up, I think that is a better opportunity,

1300
00:59:56,480 --> 00:59:58,440
Speaker 1: a better plan for the Cleveland Brown I think if

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00:59:58,480 --> 01:00:01,560
Speaker 1: you look at them, that team speci tifically to forcing

1302
01:00:01,600 --> 01:00:04,440
Speaker 1: the issue at quarterback has been the biggest problem with

1303
01:00:04,520 --> 01:00:06,600
Speaker 1: his franchise for a long long time. And I think

1304
01:00:06,640 --> 01:00:08,840
Speaker 1: you just continue on that same path if you force

1305
01:00:08,880 --> 01:00:12,800
Speaker 1: a quarterback here just to follow up to one of

1306
01:00:12,800 --> 01:00:15,000
Speaker 1: the one of the quarterbacks going coming up the boards.

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01:00:15,040 --> 01:00:17,360
Speaker 1: It seems a Patent Homes if you guys can kind

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01:00:17,360 --> 01:00:20,440
Speaker 1: of share your thoughts on him, Yeah, Pat Mahomes to me,

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01:00:20,520 --> 01:00:23,800
Speaker 1: it's it's an interesting case because there's there's stuff too,

1310
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Speaker 1: Like I mean, you know, I've talked about you could

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Speaker 1: do a cut up of fifteen to twenty throws and

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Speaker 1: you'll see him, you know, almost identical to Matt Stafford

1313
01:00:32,160 --> 01:00:36,240
Speaker 1: type throw off platform, off balance, just ridiculous arm strength

1314
01:00:36,320 --> 01:00:38,280
Speaker 1: and and put the ball right where he wants to

1315
01:00:38,320 --> 01:00:41,520
Speaker 1: put it. But you also, along with that excitement to

1316
01:00:41,640 --> 01:00:44,200
Speaker 1: his play, you have the irresponsibility of his play just

1317
01:00:44,280 --> 01:00:46,000
Speaker 1: throwing the ball up in the air. You know, I

1318
01:00:46,120 --> 01:00:47,840
Speaker 1: was a kid we played we played a game three

1319
01:00:47,880 --> 01:00:50,080
Speaker 1: flies up, where you know, you take a tennis ball

1320
01:00:50,160 --> 01:00:51,720
Speaker 1: and chuck it up in the air and there's a

1321
01:00:51,960 --> 01:00:54,919
Speaker 1: scrum of people and whoever catches that three times gets

1322
01:00:54,960 --> 01:00:57,080
Speaker 1: to be the thrower. That's kind of the way he

1323
01:00:57,160 --> 01:00:59,120
Speaker 1: plays a little bit down the field, just throwing the

1324
01:00:59,160 --> 01:01:01,920
Speaker 1: ball up in the air. When I look for you know,

1325
01:01:02,680 --> 01:01:04,160
Speaker 1: the things that you like about him, and if you

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01:01:04,520 --> 01:01:06,960
Speaker 1: charted his best plays, they have nothing to do with

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01:01:07,040 --> 01:01:10,080
Speaker 1: the play call. It's just him freelancing and making things happen,

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01:01:10,160 --> 01:01:13,200
Speaker 1: which is exciting. But when you look, when I look

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01:01:13,280 --> 01:01:16,040
Speaker 1: back on quarterbacks over the years and try and find

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01:01:16,120 --> 01:01:18,280
Speaker 1: guys that live and thrive outside of the play call,

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01:01:18,360 --> 01:01:20,120
Speaker 1: it's a very it's a very thin nless. You can

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Speaker 1: make a case it only contains one guy, and that's

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01:01:22,160 --> 01:01:26,280
Speaker 1: far Um going way back. So um, it's a tough transition.

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Speaker 1: I think it's gonna be a very tough transition. But

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Speaker 1: trust me, I hear the buzz from teams. They're fired

1336
01:01:30,320 --> 01:01:33,040
Speaker 1: up about him. Uh. He's got a real magnetic personality,

1337
01:01:33,120 --> 01:01:35,840
Speaker 1: a huge arm um, and and teams want to work

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01:01:35,880 --> 01:01:38,600
Speaker 1: with him. So it's it's the buzz is definitely Jimmen.

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01:01:38,600 --> 01:01:40,480
Speaker 1: I don't think this is some concoction. There's a lot

1340
01:01:40,560 --> 01:01:41,960
Speaker 1: of love on the streets for him, a lot of

1341
01:01:42,000 --> 01:01:44,240
Speaker 1: love on the streets from because he is immensely talented.

1342
01:01:44,360 --> 01:01:48,080
Speaker 1: He has major league arm talent. But I just don't

1343
01:01:48,120 --> 01:01:50,720
Speaker 1: know how you can play winning football with a gun

1344
01:01:50,800 --> 01:01:53,800
Speaker 1: slinger that doesn't have any regard for ball security. And

1345
01:01:54,040 --> 01:01:56,320
Speaker 1: it's fun to watch and it looks good on tape,

1346
01:01:56,360 --> 01:01:58,480
Speaker 1: but when you're trying to put together a winning game

1347
01:01:58,520 --> 01:02:01,520
Speaker 1: plan as an offensive coordinator, it is hard to play

1348
01:02:01,640 --> 01:02:05,160
Speaker 1: someone who lives off the script. I just think that

1349
01:02:05,320 --> 01:02:08,280
Speaker 1: it is a long development process for him to be

1350
01:02:08,360 --> 01:02:10,160
Speaker 1: a starting quarterback in the league and to be a

1351
01:02:10,440 --> 01:02:13,680
Speaker 1: winning quarterback, because he has just being able to develop

1352
01:02:13,800 --> 01:02:15,840
Speaker 1: so many bad habits at Texas Tech by just kind

1353
01:02:15,840 --> 01:02:19,000
Speaker 1: of being a playmaker that I kind of liking him

1354
01:02:19,080 --> 01:02:21,320
Speaker 1: to what I saw from J Culor when j Culer

1355
01:02:21,400 --> 01:02:24,680
Speaker 1: was coming out of Vanderbilt. Because he played Lucy Goosey

1356
01:02:24,840 --> 01:02:28,080
Speaker 1: at Vanderbilt, he never necessarily developed the management skills to

1357
01:02:28,200 --> 01:02:30,840
Speaker 1: learn how to play winning football. I feared that Pat

1358
01:02:30,920 --> 01:02:34,600
Speaker 1: Mahomes maybe a similar case where he just never learned

1359
01:02:34,600 --> 01:02:37,400
Speaker 1: how to play the right way to win games at

1360
01:02:37,400 --> 01:02:40,480
Speaker 1: the highest level. Thanks you. Our next question comes from

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01:02:40,560 --> 01:02:45,320
Speaker 1: Mark Koysier from Athens. There heralds hairline is now open. Daniel,

1362
01:02:45,360 --> 01:02:47,400
Speaker 1: I thought you tweeted the other day about studying late

1363
01:02:47,480 --> 01:02:50,320
Speaker 1: round free agent interier alignment. Georgia has three that might

1364
01:02:50,400 --> 01:02:53,080
Speaker 1: fill that phone like group your take on Greg Played,

1365
01:02:53,120 --> 01:02:56,200
Speaker 1: Tyler Catalina and Brandon Kublano will throwing your radar radar

1366
01:02:56,240 --> 01:02:59,720
Speaker 1: and for either of you, uh ay, Georgia guys that

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Speaker 1: you you getting drafted, whether Mackenzie or Marie Smith. Yeah,

1368
01:03:03,880 --> 01:03:06,160
Speaker 1: I look those I went late. Apparently I did not

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01:03:06,280 --> 01:03:08,520
Speaker 1: go deep enough because I have not done those those

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Speaker 1: George offensive lineman just yet. Um, but in terms of Mackenzie,

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Speaker 1: that's the returner, right, Yeah, No, he's interesting. He's got

1372
01:03:16,840 --> 01:03:18,880
Speaker 1: some juice as a return er. I think that's exactly

1373
01:03:18,920 --> 01:03:21,080
Speaker 1: where you uh, you know, where you plug him in

1374
01:03:21,160 --> 01:03:23,480
Speaker 1: and he has a chance to make it there. I

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01:03:23,600 --> 01:03:25,760
Speaker 1: evaluated him when I look at my grade, I'm pulling

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01:03:25,840 --> 01:03:30,120
Speaker 1: up my my sheet here, Um, I gave him. I

1377
01:03:30,280 --> 01:03:33,840
Speaker 1: have him in the uh let's see again, it's that

1378
01:03:33,960 --> 01:03:37,120
Speaker 1: same practice squad type type grade. I have him as

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01:03:37,160 --> 01:03:38,760
Speaker 1: a late round pick in this draft. So you're talking

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Speaker 1: about a six or seventh round pick. Apparently I've got

1381
01:03:42,000 --> 01:03:44,040
Speaker 1: some more to do on some some interior George offensive

1382
01:03:44,040 --> 01:03:45,360
Speaker 1: lineman though, so I'll be sure to get on that,

1383
01:03:46,280 --> 01:03:50,720
Speaker 1: all right. Thanks. Our next question comes from Jerry McDonald's

1384
01:03:50,760 --> 01:03:55,560
Speaker 1: from Bay Area Newsgroup. Your line is not open. Yeah,

1385
01:03:55,560 --> 01:03:58,240
Speaker 1: I said, A lot of your job is watching, uh,

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01:03:58,800 --> 01:04:02,680
Speaker 1: how gms in person, all departments operate, and then determining

1387
01:04:02,720 --> 01:04:04,960
Speaker 1: each raft how which way they might go based on

1388
01:04:05,040 --> 01:04:07,360
Speaker 1: what they like don't like. When a team's got a

1389
01:04:07,400 --> 01:04:10,400
Speaker 1: clean slate like the forty Niners. Now, what would be

1390
01:04:10,440 --> 01:04:13,360
Speaker 1: your educated guess is the way Kyle Shanahan's gonna operate.

1391
01:04:14,040 --> 01:04:15,800
Speaker 1: You know, it's a it's it's a tough one because

1392
01:04:15,840 --> 01:04:19,240
Speaker 1: it's first year head coach, first year general manager, and

1393
01:04:19,320 --> 01:04:21,520
Speaker 1: you're trying to connect the dots. And when you connect

1394
01:04:21,560 --> 01:04:23,320
Speaker 1: the dots and the people that are there, you have

1395
01:04:23,400 --> 01:04:25,919
Speaker 1: Adam Peters who comes from New England and also Denver,

1396
01:04:26,040 --> 01:04:28,760
Speaker 1: you have Martin Mayhew who has been a former GM.

1397
01:04:29,160 --> 01:04:31,520
Speaker 1: You wonder how much influence and sway they will have.

1398
01:04:32,160 --> 01:04:34,320
Speaker 1: I think when you look at style the play, you

1399
01:04:34,360 --> 01:04:36,720
Speaker 1: can put together some of it offensively and what they

1400
01:04:36,800 --> 01:04:39,320
Speaker 1: want to do defensively. And then you hear the words

1401
01:04:39,680 --> 01:04:42,160
Speaker 1: from Shanahan and also Lynched. The one thing that we

1402
01:04:42,280 --> 01:04:46,680
Speaker 1: do know they want smart, tough, very competitive, team oriented players.

1403
01:04:47,160 --> 01:04:49,320
Speaker 1: Now you're trying to figure out in the draft when

1404
01:04:49,360 --> 01:04:52,560
Speaker 1: they've said we want to get stars. Stars to me

1405
01:04:52,760 --> 01:04:55,680
Speaker 1: means they're going to take blue chip players, guys that

1406
01:04:55,720 --> 01:04:58,680
Speaker 1: can come in and make an immediate impact. So regardless

1407
01:04:58,680 --> 01:05:01,280
Speaker 1: of the position. I thing they're looking to hit home

1408
01:05:01,400 --> 01:05:03,560
Speaker 1: runs on the guys that they get. So I think

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01:05:03,600 --> 01:05:06,439
Speaker 1: there'd be a little more sizzle to their draft class

1410
01:05:06,840 --> 01:05:09,080
Speaker 1: than it was to their free agent class. Yeah. I

1411
01:05:09,120 --> 01:05:12,200
Speaker 1: mean to answer the question, it's it's impossible kind of

1412
01:05:12,240 --> 01:05:14,000
Speaker 1: to predict what they're what they're gonna do. You were

1413
01:05:14,040 --> 01:05:16,240
Speaker 1: really were really just kind of guessing. Traditionally, when you

1414
01:05:16,360 --> 01:05:18,479
Speaker 1: have first time guys, they tend to be a little

1415
01:05:18,520 --> 01:05:21,640
Speaker 1: bit more uh safe, you know, maybe not as aggressive,

1416
01:05:21,720 --> 01:05:24,480
Speaker 1: but you know that's not if you watched Kyle Shanahan

1417
01:05:24,520 --> 01:05:26,080
Speaker 1: coach the Super Bowl, I don't know that safe is

1418
01:05:26,520 --> 01:05:29,040
Speaker 1: the way you would describe him. So, um, again, trying

1419
01:05:29,080 --> 01:05:31,200
Speaker 1: to predict what they're gonna do is very difficult. Buck.

1420
01:05:31,240 --> 01:05:33,600
Speaker 1: You mentioned just what they do schematically, and try and

1421
01:05:33,920 --> 01:05:37,840
Speaker 1: find players that that really fit in there. Um. You know, defensively,

1422
01:05:38,160 --> 01:05:40,520
Speaker 1: you just look at John Lynch and the great defenses

1423
01:05:40,560 --> 01:05:42,680
Speaker 1: he was a part of, and the elements of those defenses.

1424
01:05:43,000 --> 01:05:44,920
Speaker 1: I think you can look at guys like Ruben Foster

1425
01:05:45,040 --> 01:05:46,760
Speaker 1: and say, okay, he could be your Derek Brooks and

1426
01:05:46,800 --> 01:05:48,600
Speaker 1: Solomon Thomas can you can use him kind of like

1427
01:05:48,680 --> 01:05:51,560
Speaker 1: your Warren Sap as your three technique, and then John

1428
01:05:51,600 --> 01:05:53,160
Speaker 1: Lynch can maybe sees a little bit of himself in

1429
01:05:53,200 --> 01:05:55,600
Speaker 1: these safeties. So that's the that's the kind of what

1430
01:05:55,720 --> 01:05:58,120
Speaker 1: you work off of there. But again it's it's pure guesswork.

1431
01:05:58,160 --> 01:06:02,680
Speaker 1: There's no track record. Thank you so much. Our next

1432
01:06:02,800 --> 01:06:05,960
Speaker 1: question comes from James Cotch from the New York Star Lodgers.

1433
01:06:06,080 --> 01:06:09,640
Speaker 1: Your line is now open, Hey, guys, for both of you,

1434
01:06:09,800 --> 01:06:12,040
Speaker 1: just what are your general thoughts I want the Giants

1435
01:06:12,080 --> 01:06:15,280
Speaker 1: should do at number twenty three and after O. J. Howard,

1436
01:06:15,400 --> 01:06:17,400
Speaker 1: Which tight end in this draft you guys think is

1437
01:06:17,520 --> 01:06:20,000
Speaker 1: the most complete in the sense that they could be

1438
01:06:20,080 --> 01:06:23,120
Speaker 1: in line blocker and also add something to the past game. Well,

1439
01:06:23,240 --> 01:06:24,800
Speaker 1: I'll take the first part of the question. With the

1440
01:06:24,840 --> 01:06:28,360
Speaker 1: New York gihnts, they typically build their team up front,

1441
01:06:28,520 --> 01:06:31,720
Speaker 1: so I'm thinking offensive line. Defensive line is probably the

1442
01:06:31,760 --> 01:06:33,640
Speaker 1: way to go in really offensive line when you look

1443
01:06:33,680 --> 01:06:36,560
Speaker 1: at their void on the edges, I believe they look

1444
01:06:36,680 --> 01:06:39,520
Speaker 1: to get a people mover, someone who's athletic enough to

1445
01:06:39,560 --> 01:06:42,960
Speaker 1: play left tackle so they can move um go out

1446
01:06:43,000 --> 01:06:46,280
Speaker 1: to the right, and then it allows them to look

1447
01:06:46,320 --> 01:06:49,760
Speaker 1: at Ram Check Garrett Bowls, maybe Cam Robinson. Cam Robinson

1448
01:06:49,800 --> 01:06:51,800
Speaker 1: to me, would be more of a natural right tackle,

1449
01:06:52,120 --> 01:06:54,400
Speaker 1: But I believe they have to focus on finding an

1450
01:06:54,440 --> 01:06:56,800
Speaker 1: offensive linement that could come in and start and allow

1451
01:06:56,840 --> 01:06:59,200
Speaker 1: their offense to be complete. And from a tight end

1452
01:06:59,600 --> 01:07:01,720
Speaker 1: stand point, guys that can kind of do everything is

1453
01:07:01,800 --> 01:07:05,480
Speaker 1: inline tight ends. I've I've you know, everybody laughs when

1454
01:07:05,520 --> 01:07:06,880
Speaker 1: we do this on the show because on Path of

1455
01:07:06,920 --> 01:07:08,520
Speaker 1: the Draft, I bring this guy up every day because

1456
01:07:08,520 --> 01:07:11,120
Speaker 1: he's one of my favorite players. But Adam Shaheen from

1457
01:07:11,200 --> 01:07:14,400
Speaker 1: small school at Ashland is uh. He's six ft six

1458
01:07:14,440 --> 01:07:16,640
Speaker 1: and a half almost two pounds and ran in the

1459
01:07:16,720 --> 01:07:19,920
Speaker 1: four sevenths, so he's he's very athletic. He has not

1460
01:07:20,320 --> 01:07:22,160
Speaker 1: got it all figured out as a blocker, but the

1461
01:07:22,240 --> 01:07:24,000
Speaker 1: effort is there, and you just look at the size

1462
01:07:24,080 --> 01:07:25,840
Speaker 1: that he has. I think he could really develop as

1463
01:07:25,840 --> 01:07:28,440
Speaker 1: an inline blocker. Um he would be kind of a

1464
01:07:28,480 --> 01:07:31,120
Speaker 1: second round option there. And then Jake but who's injured.

1465
01:07:31,160 --> 01:07:33,800
Speaker 1: Coming from from Michigan, it's gonna be fascinating to see

1466
01:07:33,800 --> 01:07:35,800
Speaker 1: where he goes. But he's somebody that plays with his

1467
01:07:35,880 --> 01:07:37,600
Speaker 1: hand in the ground. He's a big guy almost you know,

1468
01:07:37,760 --> 01:07:40,280
Speaker 1: six five and a half two u or fifty pounds,

1469
01:07:40,320 --> 01:07:42,160
Speaker 1: who can who can do the blocking stuff you want

1470
01:07:42,200 --> 01:07:44,600
Speaker 1: him to do, but also is a real good option

1471
01:07:44,720 --> 01:07:47,760
Speaker 1: route type guy from a tight end standpoint. So those

1472
01:07:47,800 --> 01:07:49,880
Speaker 1: would be the two kind of inline tight ends. And

1473
01:07:49,960 --> 01:07:51,720
Speaker 1: then we've got a whole bunch of the you know,

1474
01:07:51,840 --> 01:07:54,200
Speaker 1: kind of a little bit smaller, more athletic, stretched the

1475
01:07:54,200 --> 01:07:55,800
Speaker 1: seam type guys. But those would be the two. I

1476
01:07:55,840 --> 01:08:00,800
Speaker 1: would keep an eye on our next sincome from Josh

1477
01:08:00,840 --> 01:08:03,800
Speaker 1: Scotts this time from the Times Tecai, your line is

1478
01:08:03,840 --> 01:08:08,840
Speaker 1: not open. Hey, guys, you guys have talked a lot about,

1479
01:08:08,960 --> 01:08:11,480
Speaker 1: you know, the depth at cornerback and the and the

1480
01:08:11,720 --> 01:08:13,800
Speaker 1: talent at ed rushers. But I'm curious, you know, with

1481
01:08:13,920 --> 01:08:16,640
Speaker 1: the Saints, how many guys do you think in this

1482
01:08:16,760 --> 01:08:19,200
Speaker 1: draft are gonna be able to contribute immediately at those

1483
01:08:19,200 --> 01:08:24,760
Speaker 1: two positions. I mean edge rushers and corners. I think

1484
01:08:24,840 --> 01:08:26,880
Speaker 1: these guys are are pretty plug and play. This is

1485
01:08:26,880 --> 01:08:29,400
Speaker 1: a pretty good group. Again, Um, I come back to

1486
01:08:29,479 --> 01:08:31,960
Speaker 1: the corner conversation of it depends on what you want.

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Speaker 1: You know, if you if you want somebody a little

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Speaker 1: more upside, that's maybe a little more raw, you can

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Speaker 1: get that guy. Um, you know, that would probably be

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Speaker 1: a Dorry Jackson who has a huge upside but hasn't

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Speaker 1: got it all figured out yet. But I mean, I

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Speaker 1: look at guys that could come in plug and play

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Speaker 1: both Ohio State corners when you're you know, we've talked

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Speaker 1: a lot about um, a lot about Latimore. Conley is

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Speaker 1: a really really good player who's got plenty of size

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Speaker 1: as well. I think he's a plug and play guy.

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Speaker 1: He'd make a lot of sense for the Saints where

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Speaker 1: they're picking with their first first round pick, and then

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Speaker 1: trude Avius White is ready. He's ready made, he's ready

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Speaker 1: to go. A Woozier who would probably be an option

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Speaker 1: there at the bottom of the first round from Colorado.

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Speaker 1: I think he's ready made. Plug and play. Um and

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Speaker 1: then uh, and then you've got your option of guys

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Speaker 1: like Humphrey and Kevin King from Washington. Heard those big

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Speaker 1: athletic guys, UM, and I think King is probably a

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Speaker 1: little more consistent than Humphrey. UM. But you've got your

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Speaker 1: option there as well. I think those guys are ready

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Speaker 1: to play. I mean, this is why we've talked about

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Speaker 1: this being a great group. These guys are ready to

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Speaker 1: go right now. Edge, Yeah, Dressers. I think it depends

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Speaker 1: on when you value him. I think obviously, if I'm

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Speaker 1: the New Orleans Saints, I'm looking to get the edge

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Speaker 1: russer first and come back and get the corner because uh,

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Speaker 1: I think the corners are closely lumped together great wise,

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Speaker 1: and I think it's a big difference between maybe the

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Speaker 1: number three corner and the number eight corner pass rusher.

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Speaker 1: Where this's in at number eleven, you're talking about Derek

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Speaker 1: Barnett Tack McKinley. I think it's a little early for

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Speaker 1: UH Taco Charlton, But Charles Harris is a guy that

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Speaker 1: is on the fly, guy that can come in and

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Speaker 1: play off the edge. So there's people there, and Sean

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Speaker 1: Payton has talked about getting better at rushing the pass.

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Speaker 1: I certainly believe you can find the edge rusher early

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Speaker 1: that can impact it, and then you can settle on

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Speaker 1: one of those coins at the bottom of the first round.

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Speaker 1: I think the division that they're in and the style

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Speaker 1: of play that they have, if you want to score

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Speaker 1: a bunch of points and play with the lead and

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Speaker 1: get after the quarterback, I think Hassan Reddick. I don't.

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Speaker 1: I wouldn't rule that out where they're picking there with

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Speaker 1: their first first round pick, because he's somebody you can

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Speaker 1: play inside, off the ball on rundowns, and then you

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Speaker 1: get Drew Brees and company cranking up and you get

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Speaker 1: a lead, you can set him loose off the edge,

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Speaker 1: and you've got kind of a Vic Beasley type rusher

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Speaker 1: coming off the edge. So I think he could make

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Speaker 1: some sense not only for that team, but inside that division.

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Speaker 1: I would I wouldn't sleep on Hassan Reddick. Our next

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Speaker 1: question comes from Colin Martin from Raiders dot com. Your

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Speaker 1: line is not open, Hey, guys, thanks to your time. UM.

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Speaker 1: I know that both of you have the Raiders drafting

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Speaker 1: a linebacker. At Daniel you've got Gerard Davis and then

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Speaker 1: Bucky you've got Hassan Reddick. So what are some similarities

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Speaker 1: and differences between the two of them and how could

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Speaker 1: either benefit the Raiders defense. Both guys could benefit the

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Speaker 1: Raiders defense. I think you're talking about guys that are

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Speaker 1: very similar in terms of their approach to the game,

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01:11:05,800 --> 01:11:08,839
Speaker 1: their athleticism and the thump that they bring. The Raiders

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Speaker 1: need to improve on the second level of their defense,

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Speaker 1: and they need to find more playmakers. Both of the

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Speaker 1: guys that you talk about our playmakers. Davis has a

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Speaker 1: little more thump to him in terms of his physicality

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Speaker 1: and toughness, but he can row sideline the sideline and

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Speaker 1: make plays. Reddick maybe a little more versatile because at

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Speaker 1: Temple he was able to be in age line and

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Speaker 1: off the edge rusher, but he went to the Senior

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Speaker 1: Bowl and played inside. I think he gives them a

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Speaker 1: lot of option and as they're trying to fine tune

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Speaker 1: their defense, you can't go wrong with the player. If

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Speaker 1: they see either of those guys on the board, I

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Speaker 1: think they just slapped a card up because I don't

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Speaker 1: think they can go wrong either way. Yeah, I think

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Speaker 1: Reddick just gives you a little more pass rush if

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Speaker 1: you wanted some of that to go along with it.

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Speaker 1: Um Davis is a little more experienced on the inside.

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Speaker 1: But again, I think two great players buy I know

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Speaker 1: you had Um, you know Jared Davis going to the lines.

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Speaker 1: I'm just curious from both of you that it's obviously

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Speaker 1: a need for the Lions. But if they decided to

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Speaker 1: do something else at a pass rusher or another need,

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Speaker 1: who could be some of those linebackers in Day two

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Speaker 1: who are good four three? I mean there there there

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Speaker 1: are a ton of options. I think the guy that

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Speaker 1: I come back to UM, Zach Huntingham, Duke Riley, those

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Speaker 1: guys to me that would fit their scheming what they

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Speaker 1: want to do in the second round. If they elect

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Speaker 1: to take a pass rusher early and they want an

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Speaker 1: off the ball linebacker, I think those guys can play,

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Speaker 1: and and looking at their defense, they need someone that's

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Speaker 1: kind of stout on the edge that can replace what

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Speaker 1: they had in DeAndre Levy. Um, those two guys are

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Speaker 1: ones that I would be very entreatued by. I think

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Speaker 1: ray Kwon McMillan can play on that defense too, a

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Speaker 1: little bit bigger. Um has has some thump to him,

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Speaker 1: but ran in the ran in the low for six.

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Speaker 1: I think he ran four six one, so showed he's

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Speaker 1: got a little more athletic ability, maybe gave him credit for.

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Speaker 1: But instinctive player who I think really he could fit

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Speaker 1: four three three four, but he'd be in the mix there. Well, Bucky, first,

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Speaker 1: that's your Is that your first media conference calling the books?

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Speaker 1: That was my first one in the books. It was

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Speaker 1: very interesting. Um. Luckily they were easy on us. We

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Speaker 1: didn't get many oddball questions. We know I had, I

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Speaker 1: had my answers ready. I mean, I had my Canadian

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Speaker 1: guy I usually get. I've done this for about three

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Speaker 1: or four years and I always get a question on

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Speaker 1: who the best Canadian is in the draft. Don't ask

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Speaker 1: why I do I get to in Anthony, Oh Claire,

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Speaker 1: the tight end from something that Canada. I was ready.

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Speaker 1: Bucket didn't come. You're showing off. You're showing off right now.

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Speaker 1: But then the guy hit me with the question on

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Speaker 1: some George offensive linemen. I had deep in the way

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Speaker 1: back machine trying to find a Georgie non combine George often,

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Speaker 1: I'm Sully, I'm here, I'm gold My AP guy from

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Speaker 1: Knoxville got the balls question and that so yeah, that

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Speaker 1: was Have you ever a prong question? Yeah? Have you

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Speaker 1: ever seen the AP guy? I had Knoxville and Sully

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Speaker 1: in the same room at the same time. I'm not

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Speaker 1: a conspiracy theorist, I do I do know who steps out?

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Speaker 1: He steps out of the room. Can we mysteriously get

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Speaker 1: a question about the Tennessee volunteers. That's all I'm saying. Um.

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Speaker 1: We were also shocked at Hansus didn't call in and

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Speaker 1: try to ad some crazy jet's questions. Oh yeah, that

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Speaker 1: would have been a vantaged I'm shocked. He's a devious one,

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Speaker 1: that's SUSI all right, we gotta get running. I mean,

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Speaker 1: Buck got a production meeting. But this is a little

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Speaker 1: bonus episode. Hopefully you guys enjoyed that. Um we are.

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