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Speaker 1: The Around the NFL Podcast. I can believe it's not butter.

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Speaker 1: Welcome back to another edition of the Around the NFL Podcast.

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Speaker 1: My name is Dan Hansus, and I'm joined by a

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Speaker 1: room failed with heroes, Mark Sessler, Chris Westling, and Colleen Wolf.

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Speaker 1: What's up, boys and girl? What's up Colleen? Sitting in

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Speaker 1: the Greg chair? This is way more comfortable over here. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I was saying before the show, like when Check was

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Speaker 1: on UM a couple of weeks ago, he was giving

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Speaker 1: me some heat for saying, why do you always sit

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Speaker 1: UM the fifth person when we have five in here?

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Speaker 1: Right next to me to my left. I don't like that.

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Speaker 1: I'm super uncomfortable having Colleen to my right with a

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Speaker 1: proper amount of space, even a little barrier. It feels right.

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Speaker 1: There's elbow room. It's nice. I'm not looking over everybody's shoulders.

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Speaker 1: It's a little weird over there. Where is Gregg by

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Speaker 1: the way, let me tell you something, And I don't

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Speaker 1: think he's gonna be listening. But he's not here today Wednesday.

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Speaker 1: He's stay back in San Francisco, okay, And I have

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Speaker 1: a feeling that he might be coming into the office

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Speaker 1: to do the jes Nick podcast, but not ours. I

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Speaker 1: thought he was up in Napa Valley. Don't I mean, don't,

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Speaker 1: don't say anything. Has he tweeted anything? And if this

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Speaker 1: show goes live before he tapes, nobody tweet at him

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Speaker 1: about this. But we're going to find out for sure

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Speaker 1: which podcast he likes more today. No Twitter tattle tales.

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Speaker 1: You hear that, No Twitter snatches y'all got statues. I

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Speaker 1: don't want to believe that that's a reality from our

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Speaker 1: supervisor that he would do that. We'll see. This is

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Speaker 1: the Around the NFL podcast, sponsored of course by Scott Trade. Mark,

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Speaker 1: you got a portfolio? No? Would you like to know

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Speaker 1: You gotta roll in sharing a little bit? Now, Well,

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Speaker 1: I'm the most underpaid person into business. Make like they

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Speaker 1: pay me like a paper They pay me like a

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Speaker 1: paper boy. Here, Mark, Well, you've got to roll into

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Speaker 1: Scott Trade. I'd imagine with some capital you can't just

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Speaker 1: desperate bid for you to get poached from this company

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Speaker 1: right now. This making this announcement on the podcast. Well,

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Speaker 1: the company they know, they know where I'm at. Um. This, yes,

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Speaker 1: is the first post super Bowl edition of the Around

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Speaker 1: the NFL Podcast. We are back in Culver City, beautiful

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Speaker 1: southern California, in the in the in the midst of

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Speaker 1: it back down into the low seventies. Uh. You know

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Speaker 1: that would make the old juser happy, but you know

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Speaker 1: we might really going to complain when people we saw

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Speaker 1: our old producer Krige k Rich walking around the NFL

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Speaker 1: media today, our old producer of course, Crystal Rich, and

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Speaker 1: she was saying how she's living in Delaware and she's

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Speaker 1: of two ft of snow. I can't have it. I'm

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Speaker 1: not gonna complain too much, but today's show will be

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Speaker 1: a good one. Let's we're gonna move start moving away

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Speaker 1: of course from the two thousand fifteen season and the

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Speaker 1: Super Bowl. But we have a little more to talk

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Speaker 1: So we will do a segment called Winners and Losers

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Speaker 1: of Super Bowl fifty uh, breaking down some people that

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Speaker 1: We're gonna do a little bit of news of course.

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Speaker 1: Uh and uh we'll be back again, uh Thursday, So

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Speaker 1: two shows back to back shows. Lindsey Rhodes will be

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Speaker 1: Which reminds me, of course, Colleen of our great fun

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Speaker 1: tell you what it would be. I would declare vengeance. Brandon,

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Speaker 1: This is amazing Brandon, who's wearing a college shirt today

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Speaker 1: Sssler is Daddy ever coming back? Honestly, it's a fair question.

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Speaker 1: don't know. Using your name and likeness in this campaign, Mark,

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Speaker 1: with it. Well. I mean, like with many things around here,

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Speaker 1: it's sort of like Paisley a little bit. Right, It's well,

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Speaker 1: a little news about Cam Newton. Of course, that was

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Speaker 1: pready talking about that. But Cam Newton's postgame press conference

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Speaker 1: is sort of a fly by night character, then your

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Speaker 1: team is doomed, bottom line. And side Cleveland obviously we

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Speaker 1: know they're going to get rid of him, and it's

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Speaker 1: just a matter of will he ever play again at

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Speaker 1: this point. I mean, he clearly has a problem, and

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Speaker 1: I feel like his whole life, he's been sort of

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Speaker 1: given everything. He's been given everything, and he's had an

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Speaker 1: easy way out, and this is obviously an issue because

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Speaker 1: he's not winning games and he's not playing well, and

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Speaker 1: now he's showing up drunk. I mean, anybody else in

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Speaker 1: any other profession, any one of us would be fired

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Speaker 1: on the spot if we showed up drunk to work.

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Speaker 1: And that's essentially what's about to happen to Johnny Manzel.

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Speaker 1: And I think this is part of the reason why

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Speaker 1: that's happening. But it's just a total train wreck with him.

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Speaker 1: And I still don't know if he'll haven't like, I

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Speaker 1: don't know if he'll have another chance, and and I

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Speaker 1: guess he should. I mean von Miller, I don't talk

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Speaker 1: like I even know if it's something we shouldn't really

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Speaker 1: talk about it right now because literally his dad is

447
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Speaker 1: coming out in the media and saying that he has

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Speaker 1: concerns that he'll live for his twenty four birthday. So

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Speaker 1: it's like these problems are so serious and and and

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Speaker 1: life threatening at this point that football it's kind of

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Speaker 1: it's in the deep distance. Yeah, when your agent drops you,

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Speaker 1: it's an indication that your agent has a month agovernment said, oh,

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Speaker 1: you know what for Cleveland, just hand Johnny Manzel to

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Speaker 1: another team and he'll become some successful Brett far Apart two.

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Speaker 1: But the agent knows the temperature of the league and

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Speaker 1: there is no there is no need for Johnny Manzel

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Speaker 1: right now. I was trying to offer some historical perspective,

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Speaker 1: but by no means am I downplaying what Johnny Manzel

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Speaker 1: has gone through. No, we don't think and do to

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Speaker 1: other people. I'm more read into that as West you

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Speaker 1: you celebrating that that aspect of NFL PAS trying to

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Speaker 1: give a little history, But yes, he clearly has issues

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Speaker 1: that he needs to solve. Moving on a little quick

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Speaker 1: contract talk regarding the two Super Bowl teams, Von Miller,

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Speaker 1: fresh off one of the more dominating defensive performances in

466
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Speaker 1: Super Bowl history is going to be our scheduled to

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Speaker 1: be a free agent. Uh in March. Obviously, I'm gonna

468
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Speaker 1: put it at literally zero percent that he's going to

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Speaker 1: reach the open market. It just comes down to whether

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Speaker 1: Denver puts the franchise tag on him or gets a

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Speaker 1: long term deal done. Uh. John Elway, the team's GM,

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Speaker 1: spoke confidently about the possibility of getting a deal done.

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Speaker 1: He said the goal was always to get a long

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Speaker 1: term deal. And then Vaughan was on The Ellen Show.

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Speaker 1: That's you know, the Ellen Show. Whenever you need to

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Speaker 1: break NFL news and eever you want to find out

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Speaker 1: the pulse. Didn't Brandon Marshall break some news on the

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Speaker 1: Ellen Show? Absolutely, That's what I'm talking about. Uh. He

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Speaker 1: Von had this to say to again Ellen, I want

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Speaker 1: to stay Ellen de generous former actress now affable TV host,

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Speaker 1: came out of the closet a famous a gay pioneer.

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Speaker 1: Dan this is the longest intro cover the cover Time,

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Speaker 1: the cover of Time magazine. Yep, I'm gay in h

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Speaker 1: Here's the quote from von Miller. I want to stay

485
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Speaker 1: with the Broncos for fifteen to twenty years doesn't make sense,

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Speaker 1: but money talks, right, Yeah, it does. And the other

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Speaker 1: news uh Dave Gettleman, the Panthers general manager, uh mom

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Speaker 1: on the team's plans to tag Josh Norman the cornerback

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Speaker 1: of course, Uh, Norman looking to get paid after his

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Speaker 1: breakout season, and Gettleman keeping it close to the vest

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Speaker 1: About the franchise tag. We've got to look at it.

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Speaker 1: I've used it before. I'm not shy, I'm not afraid

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Speaker 1: of it. We're gonna do what we think after we

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Speaker 1: evaluate anything everything. West, is there any chance the Panthers

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Speaker 1: would decide that a franchise tag or a long term

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Speaker 1: deal wasn't in their best interests With Josh Norman, I

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Speaker 1: don't think he'll hit the market. I am doing some

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Speaker 1: free agent work this week with Greg out of the office.

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Speaker 1: We'll have our top one oh one free agents by

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Speaker 1: the end of the month, and von Miller's number one

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Speaker 1: on our list. Josh Norman will be in the top three.

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Speaker 1: So these two guys will both be getting paid, at

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Speaker 1: least at the franchise level. West. Good of you to

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Speaker 1: pick up the slack while Greg SIPs wind up the

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Speaker 1: state or does the podcast Greg checked in via slack today.

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Speaker 1: He's doing some boss type stuff. I'm concerned about this.

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Speaker 1: That's it. Like I'm not saying. I'm not saying that.

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Speaker 1: I know for facts, I wouldn't talk about it here.

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Speaker 1: I think we should. I think he wouldn't do that

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Speaker 1: to us, would he not? You you raise a good point?

511
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Speaker 1: Am I talking to him? Like we've built something here

512
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Speaker 1: for it to be thrown away for like a Buddy

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Speaker 1: Buddy podcast. Moving on, finally, some some sad news to report.

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Speaker 1: Atlanta Falcons owner Arthur Blank announced Tuesday he has been

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Speaker 1: diagnosed with prostate cancer. He's diagnosed in December, a treatable

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Speaker 1: form of cancer, said the longtime owner he's purchased. He

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Speaker 1: purchased the Falcons in two thousand two, seventy three years old,

518
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Speaker 1: co founder of Home Depot uh the giant retail hardware

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Speaker 1: store uh So. During the Falcon's ownership, they've won the

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Speaker 1: NFC South three times, made six playoff appearances. So Arthur Blank,

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Speaker 1: get healthy, one of the most respected owners league wide.

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Speaker 1: So absolutely sharp, good dresser, Get well soon, Mr Blank.

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Speaker 1: And that's what's happening. Good news, guys, really sharp stuff

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Speaker 1: and incisive. Colleen sitting to my right. It just felt right.

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Speaker 1: It's great. Yeah, No, I like this much better. Um,

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Speaker 1: let's now move on to a little winners and losers

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Speaker 1: of Super Bowl fifty talk. Before we came this is

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Speaker 1: this is kind of how we'll close the door on

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Speaker 1: the season with this conversation. So let's go with kind

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Speaker 1: of you know, a rollicking combo between the four of

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Speaker 1: us throwing out winners and losers. Uh. You know, make

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Speaker 1: sure you make it clear before you say, uh, whether

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Speaker 1: it's a winner or a loser. You don't want to

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Speaker 1: confuse the audience and the people inside the studio. I'll

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Speaker 1: get it going. I'll start with a winner, and I'm

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Speaker 1: gonna say DeMarcus Ware is a big time winner. Uh.

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Speaker 1: So this is your example, Mark, a guy played in

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Speaker 1: the league for eleven years, got his ring, and I

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Speaker 1: think that ring put DeMarcus where in the Hall of Fame.

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Speaker 1: He's sitting at eleventh in NFL history in sacks. Uh,

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Speaker 1: he's one more kind of DeMarcus where like season will

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Speaker 1: be in the top five and now he's got the

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Speaker 1: ring to top it off. So sometimes with those pass

544
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Speaker 1: rushers just having the saxes and enough, but you give

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Speaker 1: him a ring as well. DeMarcus where a big winner.

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Speaker 1: Baby yeah, And he said, how I wasn't calling you baby.

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Speaker 1: I mean it's fine. It got a little uncomfortable on

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Speaker 1: the right, but um yeah, no, he said, it was

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Speaker 1: a little bitter sweet the wind just because he didn't

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Speaker 1: get to celebrate it with any of his Cowboys teammates.

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Speaker 1: He would have loved to have Jason Witten there or

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Speaker 1: Tony Romo or any of those guys to celebrate it with,

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Speaker 1: which I think is interesting. I just watched that thirty

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Speaker 1: for thirty, um the Four Falls of Buffalo, and when

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Speaker 1: I was watching that had had a little bit of

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Speaker 1: of that to it. And I can't imagine being a

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Speaker 1: veteran player and playing with the team for so long

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Speaker 1: and trying to get there and then switching to another

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Speaker 1: team and winning it. How how you can't have those

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Speaker 1: field kind of like a Rosenthal parallel to what's happened

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Speaker 1: with us in his rival show. Exactly very fair. I've

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Speaker 1: got well, I think the super Bowl is only about

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Speaker 1: half about football and half about all the other stuff.

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Speaker 1: And one of the winners that got buried when we

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Speaker 1: you know, naturally we went and unpacked the halftime show

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Speaker 1: But how about Lady Gaga with the national anthem Lane's

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Speaker 1: flying over. I mean, you know, Whitney Houston probably will

568
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Speaker 1: always she had nothing to do with that. I think

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Speaker 1: she did. She probably signed off on that so that

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Speaker 1: I need some air equipment, some stuff to fly over. Listen.

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Speaker 1: She had one assignment and she absolutely nailed it. I

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Speaker 1: think Whitney Houston is the one I'll never forget because

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Speaker 1: of the circumstances of what was happening to the world

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Speaker 1: at that time, and now she just blew it out

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Speaker 1: of the park when a lot of times these things

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Speaker 1: pre Whitney Houston were kind of mailed in. She set

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Speaker 1: the standard. But Gaga, her hair is crazy. If you're

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Speaker 1: watching on YouTube, fantastic, amazing. I I might have to

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Speaker 1: go back, can listen to it because when I heard

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Speaker 1: it we were at the game, it was a goose

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Speaker 1: bumps moment. I thought it was right there as good

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Speaker 1: as Whitney Houston. We don't typically care about this stuff,

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Speaker 1: but it was a fantastic Yeah, we don't care. It

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Speaker 1: was a nice classic version too. It didn't she didn't

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Speaker 1: go overboard and classically trained musicians. Yes, I think that's

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Speaker 1: the one thing. A lot of people. And if you're

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Speaker 1: watching on YouTube, you've seen those jets that Gaga. But

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Speaker 1: she's a great, great, freaking singer too. And I think

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Speaker 1: a lot of people just think she's like fluffy pop chick,

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Speaker 1: but that's not the case. Who else has got one?

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Speaker 1: How about a loser? I'm talking? Wait, I got one

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Speaker 1: more winner? Oh? Go ahead of us? Peyton Manny Okay,

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Speaker 1: well yeah, I'm not usually one to defend him, but

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Speaker 1: when's the last time you know the statement you can't

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Speaker 1: defeat Father Time? Hey, Manny just did. When is the

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Speaker 1: last time you saw anybody in any sport wins something

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Speaker 1: while they were washed up? And it was abundantly clear

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Speaker 1: all season and even more so in this game that

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Speaker 1: he is washed up. He can't play another season. He

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Speaker 1: knows that. I wish you would have thrown a touchdown

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Speaker 1: list Father Time, and it adds to his legacy. I

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Speaker 1: think it. I'm with you. I think it kind of

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Speaker 1: was almost like a final destination moment where somehow he

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Speaker 1: was able to put off death or trick death, and

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Speaker 1: he hung around just long enough to get the ring.

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Speaker 1: It's amazing because on NFL Network we're even talking about

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Speaker 1: in the newsroom this morning that they're playing a bunch

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Speaker 1: of the Broncos big games for two thousand fifteen. It's

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Speaker 1: not an easy watch because Peyton Manning has been bad

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Speaker 1: pretty much off my TV but all watching bad football

611
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Speaker 1: over and over with, with the exception of maybe two games,

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Speaker 1: two to three games all year. He was not good

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Speaker 1: this season, and yet and all the seasons where he

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Speaker 1: went out empty hand, it took him like six years

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Speaker 1: even win a playoff game. He wins a super Bowl

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Speaker 1: this year, very ironic. We're gonna come back to winners West.

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Speaker 1: So I didn't want you not to think like you

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Speaker 1: don't have a chance to step back in. But how

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Speaker 1: about a loser. Let's go with his brother? Oh, I know,

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Speaker 1: I know, I know, but listen now, I mean Eli

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Speaker 1: always had the two rings, could hold the two rings

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Speaker 1: over Peyton's head. Now they both have two rings. And

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Speaker 1: I feel like, if you're sitting at that Thanksgiving table,

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Speaker 1: I don't know, I don't know about Eli. I think

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Speaker 1: that all the attention goes right to Manning or to

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Speaker 1: Peyton all the time, and Eli is just the little brother. Wow,

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Speaker 1: I guess you're putting stock into the CBS. I'm putting

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Speaker 1: a lot of stock that I don't know what did

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Speaker 1: we find out what that was about it? Actually I

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Speaker 1: wrote about it. Thanks for reading our website. Um No,

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Speaker 1: but he said I did read that piece in a pure,

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Speaker 1: total Eli Manning brother type thing. He said that as

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Speaker 1: soon as C. J. Anderson scored the touchdown, in his mind,

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Speaker 1: and you can watch on YouTube right now, he's trying

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Speaker 1: to figure out whether they should go for two, which

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Speaker 1: is a very I buy it because that's what it is.

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Speaker 1: That's he's going to think the way every conversation he

638
00:31:51,120 --> 00:31:53,520
Speaker 1: has with Peyton Man. Do we really think that he's

639
00:31:53,840 --> 00:31:57,480
Speaker 1: not happy for his brother. I can't believe anybody would

640
00:31:57,520 --> 00:32:01,960
Speaker 1: think I'll throw out another loser, Ted gin Jr. One

641
00:32:02,000 --> 00:32:04,440
Speaker 1: thing about the Super Bowl will for end the playoffs

642
00:32:04,480 --> 00:32:06,680
Speaker 1: in general, but the Super Bowl takes things all the

643
00:32:06,720 --> 00:32:10,360
Speaker 1: way up another notches. It will cement your legacy, how

644
00:32:10,400 --> 00:32:13,600
Speaker 1: people perceive you, whether it's as a warrior or someone

645
00:32:13,680 --> 00:32:17,840
Speaker 1: that's soft. Ted ginn Jr. To me, I mean, everyone's

646
00:32:17,840 --> 00:32:20,040
Speaker 1: gonna think of Gain as this guy that made a

647
00:32:20,120 --> 00:32:22,600
Speaker 1: lot of plays with Cam Newton after years of kind

648
00:32:22,600 --> 00:32:25,560
Speaker 1: of floundering the league. But in the Super Bowl, the

649
00:32:25,640 --> 00:32:29,160
Speaker 1: guys stepping out of bounds every chance he gets fear

650
00:32:29,240 --> 00:32:32,120
Speaker 1: in contact. That's who Ted Gain has been his whole career.

651
00:32:32,280 --> 00:32:35,120
Speaker 1: And you know, and one of the more underrated plays

652
00:32:35,160 --> 00:32:37,560
Speaker 1: of the Super Bowl when the Panthers were marching in

653
00:32:37,600 --> 00:32:40,000
Speaker 1: a in a one score game, Uh, he lets a

654
00:32:40,040 --> 00:32:42,560
Speaker 1: pass go through his fingers over the middle. So maybe

655
00:32:42,600 --> 00:32:44,760
Speaker 1: showing a little fear of going over the middle. Uh.

656
00:32:44,840 --> 00:32:47,640
Speaker 1: There's one play in particular that I remember watching from

657
00:32:47,960 --> 00:32:49,880
Speaker 1: our press box where it seemed like if he cut

658
00:32:49,960 --> 00:32:52,959
Speaker 1: back inside on a long reception he made, maybe went

659
00:32:53,040 --> 00:32:55,240
Speaker 1: to could have gone to the house. Instead, he steps

660
00:32:55,280 --> 00:32:57,560
Speaker 1: out of bound. So I thought Ted Ginn not a

661
00:32:57,680 --> 00:33:03,680
Speaker 1: loser as a person, but within the prison. Yeah, what

662
00:33:03,760 --> 00:33:07,480
Speaker 1: else we got? The biggest loser, I think is the

663
00:33:07,560 --> 00:33:11,720
Speaker 1: legacy of the two thousand fifteen Panthers, which a team

664
00:33:11,800 --> 00:33:14,560
Speaker 1: which was considered, if they had won the Super Bowl,

665
00:33:15,120 --> 00:33:17,280
Speaker 1: maybe in the top five teams of all time, and

666
00:33:17,440 --> 00:33:19,800
Speaker 1: that will not be the case. You can't even put

667
00:33:19,840 --> 00:33:22,480
Speaker 1: them with the two thousand seven Patriots, who were undefeated

668
00:33:22,560 --> 00:33:25,479
Speaker 1: during the regular season. So I think they're they had

669
00:33:25,520 --> 00:33:27,560
Speaker 1: a chance for something and it won't go down like that.

670
00:33:28,560 --> 00:33:31,240
Speaker 1: I think you're absolutely right, And part of me is like, well,

671
00:33:31,320 --> 00:33:34,680
Speaker 1: maybe this the idea of like legacy is kind of

672
00:33:34,760 --> 00:33:37,760
Speaker 1: silly because they had one bad day and now they

673
00:33:37,800 --> 00:33:39,720
Speaker 1: don't even get in that conversation where they would have

674
00:33:39,760 --> 00:33:42,520
Speaker 1: been top five if they if the Broncos played poorly

675
00:33:42,560 --> 00:33:45,480
Speaker 1: for it, but the Nerds would have broken that. They

676
00:33:45,560 --> 00:33:48,800
Speaker 1: never really played anybody until the playoffs anyway, right, that's sports, though,

677
00:33:48,840 --> 00:33:50,760
Speaker 1: And I really think if they would have I think

678
00:33:50,800 --> 00:33:54,440
Speaker 1: they would have had to but will do that. West

679
00:33:54,520 --> 00:33:57,680
Speaker 1: just goes off on Nerds. Well, they're not here for

680
00:33:57,800 --> 00:33:59,600
Speaker 1: me to administer a wedgie, so you have to give

681
00:33:59,600 --> 00:34:01,520
Speaker 1: them a very bewggie. I don't know. I feel like

682
00:34:01,560 --> 00:34:03,640
Speaker 1: all year we talked about, well, at least at the

683
00:34:03,640 --> 00:34:05,560
Speaker 1: beginning of the year with the Panthers when Kelvin Benjamin

684
00:34:05,600 --> 00:34:07,280
Speaker 1: went down, how the heck they were going to have

685
00:34:07,400 --> 00:34:10,080
Speaker 1: any type of offense. And now we're we're turning ted

686
00:34:10,160 --> 00:34:12,880
Speaker 1: Gin into a very soft character and talking about the

687
00:34:12,920 --> 00:34:15,440
Speaker 1: ways that he didn't finish plays and he just ran

688
00:34:15,480 --> 00:34:17,360
Speaker 1: out of bound. So I don't know. Maybe you do

689
00:34:17,480 --> 00:34:20,000
Speaker 1: look at the whole season and say, I can't believe

690
00:34:20,080 --> 00:34:21,799
Speaker 1: they actually got to where they were with the role

691
00:34:21,840 --> 00:34:25,279
Speaker 1: players that they had. They should be celebrated for that

692
00:34:25,480 --> 00:34:27,319
Speaker 1: I'll throwout a loser. And if we're going to talk

693
00:34:27,360 --> 00:34:31,640
Speaker 1: about Gaga, throo wow. And there are people. I think

694
00:34:31,680 --> 00:34:34,640
Speaker 1: there's even like a protest outside the New York office,

695
00:34:35,120 --> 00:34:37,920
Speaker 1: and I don't know what that's about. I'm sure it's

696
00:34:37,960 --> 00:34:41,239
Speaker 1: rooted in racism or something like that, something bogus. I

697
00:34:41,360 --> 00:34:44,160
Speaker 1: just didn't like that she played her new single. I'm

698
00:34:44,200 --> 00:34:46,239
Speaker 1: just that's all I'm saying. It's like you are on

699
00:34:46,320 --> 00:34:50,040
Speaker 1: the super Bowl stage, Beyonce. He've kind of come one

700
00:34:50,160 --> 00:34:52,200
Speaker 1: eighty from Sunday night on this. No, No, That's how

701
00:34:52,239 --> 00:34:55,360
Speaker 1: I felt on Sunday. He said that Greg made a

702
00:34:55,440 --> 00:34:57,239
Speaker 1: good point that it was a badass move because she

703
00:34:57,280 --> 00:34:59,319
Speaker 1: has enough power to do it. Yes, but I didn't

704
00:34:59,320 --> 00:35:01,120
Speaker 1: mean I agree with it. I just said I get

705
00:35:01,200 --> 00:35:03,640
Speaker 1: that point, and it does show how much power she has.

706
00:35:04,080 --> 00:35:06,560
Speaker 1: You know, give me, you know, give me crazy and love. Yeah,

707
00:35:06,600 --> 00:35:09,160
Speaker 1: I think give me single, ladies, give me something, Beyonce,

708
00:35:09,320 --> 00:35:14,480
Speaker 1: do not do not abuse your incredible total agree with you.

709
00:35:14,640 --> 00:35:17,279
Speaker 1: I think she made a mistake though, in dropping that song.

710
00:35:17,560 --> 00:35:20,560
Speaker 1: What the day before, She should have dropped it like

711
00:35:21,000 --> 00:35:24,560
Speaker 1: maybe two weeks before, and then if she played it hit, Yeah,

712
00:35:24,560 --> 00:35:26,520
Speaker 1: at least people would have like that that would have

713
00:35:26,560 --> 00:35:28,320
Speaker 1: resonated a little bit more. I think this is the

714
00:35:28,360 --> 00:35:30,200
Speaker 1: biggest stage in the world. What are you saving your

715
00:35:30,239 --> 00:35:32,960
Speaker 1: good stuff for concert and Grand Rapids Iowa later this year.

716
00:35:33,000 --> 00:35:34,719
Speaker 1: Come on, I don't think she's a loser for it.

717
00:35:34,840 --> 00:35:36,920
Speaker 1: I mean, still, you look at cold Play. Why don't

718
00:35:36,920 --> 00:35:38,839
Speaker 1: you put cold Play on the list? Because I don't

719
00:35:38,880 --> 00:35:41,080
Speaker 1: think cold Play was terrible. I think cold Play was cold.

720
00:35:41,160 --> 00:35:44,080
Speaker 1: You think cold Play was better than Beyonce? No, well,

721
00:35:44,120 --> 00:35:46,319
Speaker 1: hold on, hold Play is what they are, and they

722
00:35:46,360 --> 00:35:48,680
Speaker 1: did exactly what I thought they'd do. I think with Beyonce,

723
00:35:48,880 --> 00:35:51,120
Speaker 1: you're expecting a certain thing and you're saying you've got

724
00:35:51,239 --> 00:35:54,719
Speaker 1: something that people are like afterwards, like, oh, bay, she

725
00:35:54,880 --> 00:35:57,120
Speaker 1: did it again. But in this case, people were just

726
00:35:57,160 --> 00:35:59,719
Speaker 1: kind of convincing themselves of that. I felt anything else.

727
00:36:00,000 --> 00:36:02,359
Speaker 1: Analysis is very on point. For the thanks I've got

728
00:36:02,440 --> 00:36:05,640
Speaker 1: a loser. It pains me too. I'm not calling said

729
00:36:05,640 --> 00:36:07,719
Speaker 1: that like Donald Trump, by the way, I did I

730
00:36:07,760 --> 00:36:11,960
Speaker 1: gotta loser. I don't know about the accent, but I mean,

731
00:36:12,000 --> 00:36:14,120
Speaker 1: I'm not calling this person a loser because he's a

732
00:36:14,160 --> 00:36:18,239
Speaker 1: coworker who works very hard. Uh. David Eliot edited Downstairs

733
00:36:18,280 --> 00:36:20,279
Speaker 1: one of the biggest Panthers fans I've ever met, one

734
00:36:20,320 --> 00:36:23,200
Speaker 1: of the only Panthers fans I've ever met, A made

735
00:36:23,239 --> 00:36:25,680
Speaker 1: a very what I consider to be a massive miscalculation.

736
00:36:26,080 --> 00:36:27,640
Speaker 1: We have a morning editor that had to come in

737
00:36:27,719 --> 00:36:29,680
Speaker 1: it like four in the morning and then stay through

738
00:36:29,719 --> 00:36:32,080
Speaker 1: basically the start of the game. He opted to be

739
00:36:32,200 --> 00:36:35,680
Speaker 1: in the office for his own reasons during the entire

740
00:36:35,800 --> 00:36:39,520
Speaker 1: game and the hideous aftermath brought with him a bottle

741
00:36:39,600 --> 00:36:44,200
Speaker 1: of champagne, which we've got to somehow insert that photo

742
00:36:44,239 --> 00:36:50,640
Speaker 1: into this. Is that like was his choice. He works now.

743
00:36:50,760 --> 00:36:54,400
Speaker 1: He's working right now in the newsroom. Is Brandon. Uh?

744
00:36:54,480 --> 00:36:57,600
Speaker 1: I don't the vengeance drop didn't work out it. Listen,

745
00:36:57,640 --> 00:36:59,680
Speaker 1: we're all upset a little disappointed about it. But I

746
00:36:59,760 --> 00:37:02,840
Speaker 1: think can we get Eale on the phone and I

747
00:37:02,920 --> 00:37:04,319
Speaker 1: have a I have a couple of questions for him,

748
00:37:04,320 --> 00:37:05,520
Speaker 1: and I'll see what I can do here. Here we go.

749
00:37:10,480 --> 00:37:12,160
Speaker 1: You guys should be all talk to him here. Okay,

750
00:37:16,000 --> 00:37:23,640
Speaker 1: that's people. It's like he's connected. Number. I feel. I

751
00:37:23,719 --> 00:37:27,719
Speaker 1: feel terrible for dave Eally you sound like you do,

752
00:37:27,920 --> 00:37:30,200
Speaker 1: but I do. My question, I do. My question is

753
00:37:30,400 --> 00:37:32,800
Speaker 1: like you gotta work the early shift? Was it a

754
00:37:32,840 --> 00:37:34,719
Speaker 1: glory boy move to be there because he wanted to

755
00:37:34,760 --> 00:37:36,680
Speaker 1: be there for the game, you know what I mean.

756
00:37:36,840 --> 00:37:38,760
Speaker 1: I think the champagne tells us it was a glory

757
00:37:38,800 --> 00:37:41,160
Speaker 1: Blay move. I wonder what he did with the champagne

758
00:37:41,200 --> 00:37:43,120
Speaker 1: if he'd like, actually just like left with it. I

759
00:37:43,200 --> 00:37:45,600
Speaker 1: have a feeling, I know. The other thing that hurts

760
00:37:46,160 --> 00:37:47,840
Speaker 1: is that we did tell him he would appear on

761
00:37:47,920 --> 00:37:50,560
Speaker 1: this podcast if they won the Super Bowl. He had it,

762
00:37:50,640 --> 00:37:54,400
Speaker 1: he had a stage, and he's our friend, and like,

763
00:37:54,480 --> 00:37:56,759
Speaker 1: it's not We're not into seeing our friends suffer most

764
00:37:56,840 --> 00:37:59,600
Speaker 1: of the time. Yeah, alright, who's got any other winners

765
00:38:00,040 --> 00:38:02,239
Speaker 1: and losers before we move on west? From one? You

766
00:38:02,360 --> 00:38:04,880
Speaker 1: got one? From one Ely to another. Cony Eally is

767
00:38:04,880 --> 00:38:09,200
Speaker 1: a big winner and you feel better. Panthers defensive end

768
00:38:09,480 --> 00:38:11,680
Speaker 1: has one of the best games in Super Bowl history

769
00:38:11,719 --> 00:38:14,120
Speaker 1: from a defensive player. If they gave away m vps

770
00:38:14,640 --> 00:38:17,000
Speaker 1: to the losing team, he would have gotten it. And

771
00:38:17,120 --> 00:38:19,319
Speaker 1: I think it shows that he only played twenty three

772
00:38:19,360 --> 00:38:23,799
Speaker 1: snaps and had three sacks, forced fumble, interception. He's gonna

773
00:38:23,800 --> 00:38:25,960
Speaker 1: be playing a lot more snaps in two thousand sixteen

774
00:38:26,000 --> 00:38:28,000
Speaker 1: and could be one of their best defensive players. I mean,

775
00:38:28,080 --> 00:38:32,680
Speaker 1: can we get after the Panthers for you know, botching

776
00:38:32,760 --> 00:38:34,680
Speaker 1: this a little bit. Once he started making plays early

777
00:38:34,760 --> 00:38:36,160
Speaker 1: in the game, should he should he have had a

778
00:38:36,200 --> 00:38:38,320
Speaker 1: bigger role, Maybe he could have saved the game with

779
00:38:38,360 --> 00:38:40,120
Speaker 1: a big play. Maybe if he was playing every snap,

780
00:38:40,160 --> 00:38:41,640
Speaker 1: he wouldn't have had the energy to make all these

781
00:38:41,680 --> 00:38:45,319
Speaker 1: big plays. That's fair toos fat point point all right,

782
00:38:45,360 --> 00:38:48,240
Speaker 1: one more loser, Mark, go ahead, I want to end negative.

783
00:38:48,400 --> 00:38:51,600
Speaker 1: And while we I thought our environment at Levi's Stadium

784
00:38:51,680 --> 00:38:54,920
Speaker 1: was amazing because he'd gotten knocked last year for being

785
00:38:54,920 --> 00:38:57,320
Speaker 1: a little too quiet. Well, the forty nine are stunk,

786
00:38:57,440 --> 00:38:59,720
Speaker 1: so there's a reason for that. But it was electric.

787
00:38:59,800 --> 00:39:02,400
Speaker 1: But the field and especially some of the vines that

788
00:39:02,440 --> 00:39:05,440
Speaker 1: were coming out today where they show Michael or just

789
00:39:05,480 --> 00:39:08,320
Speaker 1: getting pushed back like his feet are on ice, absurd.

790
00:39:08,400 --> 00:39:09,960
Speaker 1: And I mean after the game a keep to Lee

791
00:39:10,160 --> 00:39:13,120
Speaker 1: ripped the field and basically said he didn't couldn't even

792
00:39:13,200 --> 00:39:15,080
Speaker 1: name what team played in San Francisco. But it's like,

793
00:39:15,080 --> 00:39:19,160
Speaker 1: whatever team plays, I'm not seeing, not the Jacksonville Jaguar.

794
00:39:19,320 --> 00:39:21,800
Speaker 1: Get other things on his mind. But if he's basically seen, however,

795
00:39:21,920 --> 00:39:23,920
Speaker 1: has to play at this field eight games a year,

796
00:39:24,360 --> 00:39:26,600
Speaker 1: it is. They need to fix the surface, and we

797
00:39:26,640 --> 00:39:28,320
Speaker 1: saw that happen with the Texans lawyer in there. You

798
00:39:28,360 --> 00:39:30,440
Speaker 1: gotta get this thing fixed. It didn't someone earlier this

799
00:39:30,520 --> 00:39:32,200
Speaker 1: year like it was like a sinkhole in the field.

800
00:39:32,280 --> 00:39:36,520
Speaker 1: It was. It did remind me watching and I think

801
00:39:36,640 --> 00:39:39,439
Speaker 1: if you are an NFL fan, you saw the gift

802
00:39:39,880 --> 00:39:42,360
Speaker 1: or the JEF. I don't know what. You don't know. Ellen,

803
00:39:42,400 --> 00:39:46,000
Speaker 1: she came out and it was a major moment in Hollywood,

804
00:39:46,440 --> 00:39:49,000
Speaker 1: a celebrity coming out of the closet. I mean, it

805
00:39:49,080 --> 00:39:51,600
Speaker 1: was a big thing. But I've going back to this. Okay,

806
00:39:51,800 --> 00:39:55,480
Speaker 1: what I don't know what you're doing? Um, I lost

807
00:39:55,560 --> 00:39:59,839
Speaker 1: my train of thought. What were doing before that pitchy skit?

808
00:40:00,120 --> 00:40:03,239
Speaker 1: Oh if you yeah, if you saw this, if you

809
00:40:03,360 --> 00:40:07,279
Speaker 1: saw this, you it did remind me of like old

810
00:40:07,360 --> 00:40:10,200
Speaker 1: Madden ninety four and Sega Genesis, like the graphic glitch

811
00:40:10,440 --> 00:40:14,279
Speaker 1: where somebody just starts sliding as opposed to like backing up. So,

812
00:40:14,520 --> 00:40:16,439
Speaker 1: I don't know, maybe it's not for some field turf.

813
00:40:17,160 --> 00:40:20,960
Speaker 1: Maybe San Francisco. It smelled great after the game. We

814
00:40:21,040 --> 00:40:23,000
Speaker 1: went down there and it was it smelled like earth.

815
00:40:23,200 --> 00:40:24,279
Speaker 1: I liked that. That was a little bit of a

816
00:40:24,360 --> 00:40:27,920
Speaker 1: humble bread, was it that? Yeah, Deel, we're on the

817
00:40:27,960 --> 00:40:31,000
Speaker 1: field of saying that we personally smelled the field. We

818
00:40:31,040 --> 00:40:32,560
Speaker 1: couldn't do it from the press box. We had to

819
00:40:32,600 --> 00:40:35,440
Speaker 1: be on the field. That's all right, good winners and

820
00:40:35,520 --> 00:40:40,000
Speaker 1: losers said, guys, really good stuff. Uh. Finally, before we go,

821
00:40:40,080 --> 00:40:41,880
Speaker 1: I do want to touch on because we said we

822
00:40:41,920 --> 00:40:46,480
Speaker 1: were going to uh the meet up at the what

823
00:40:46,680 --> 00:40:51,399
Speaker 1: was it called the San Francisco taphouse room, Golden Gate

824
00:40:51,719 --> 00:40:55,120
Speaker 1: tap Room? Thank you? We met up with a number

825
00:40:55,239 --> 00:40:58,680
Speaker 1: of around the NFL listeners and uh, Colleen, you were

826
00:40:58,719 --> 00:41:00,680
Speaker 1: not in attendance. You were invited, but you kind of

827
00:41:00,840 --> 00:41:04,400
Speaker 1: a little noteball. So we had this like NFL mandatory

828
00:41:04,480 --> 00:41:07,200
Speaker 1: thing that we were supposed to go to, and I

829
00:41:07,320 --> 00:41:09,759
Speaker 1: went to that. You guys were there, and then I

830
00:41:09,840 --> 00:41:15,000
Speaker 1: texted you guys nothing radio silence. But after because you

831
00:41:15,040 --> 00:41:18,399
Speaker 1: had already left. Ah right, I don't remember a lot after.

832
00:41:18,480 --> 00:41:21,560
Speaker 1: I will say this that everyone that we met, I

833
00:41:21,640 --> 00:41:24,880
Speaker 1: mean it was they couldn't have been nicer. Uh. A

834
00:41:25,000 --> 00:41:28,480
Speaker 1: lot of greyhounds are served to me, which which led

835
00:41:28,520 --> 00:41:30,520
Speaker 1: to some fogginess. Is the evening went on, but I

836
00:41:30,640 --> 00:41:34,880
Speaker 1: remember every conversation and everyone was very nice. So it

837
00:41:35,000 --> 00:41:36,920
Speaker 1: was a great success. I thought I didn't buy a

838
00:41:36,960 --> 00:41:40,240
Speaker 1: single drink all night, and I had an absolute blast.

839
00:41:40,520 --> 00:41:44,160
Speaker 1: Everyone was great to talk to uh football and came

840
00:41:44,200 --> 00:41:46,360
Speaker 1: up two or three times, and for me that was great.

841
00:41:46,600 --> 00:41:48,640
Speaker 1: I didn't I wasn't there to talk. I was there

842
00:41:48,680 --> 00:41:51,480
Speaker 1: to meet people and hear about their lives, and it was.

843
00:41:51,600 --> 00:41:54,120
Speaker 1: It was a fantastic time. We stayed till the bitter end,

844
00:41:54,360 --> 00:41:57,600
Speaker 1: a crew about seven or eight, and I you were right,

845
00:41:57,640 --> 00:42:00,200
Speaker 1: there were every time you turned around, someone's hand ending

846
00:42:00,239 --> 00:42:03,560
Speaker 1: you a beer or drink. And you know, my wife

847
00:42:03,680 --> 00:42:05,400
Speaker 1: was there and I think she was blown away by

848
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Speaker 1: not just the people, but the people were cool, like

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Speaker 1: she were talking them for ages. I mean they were.

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Speaker 1: It was a good but that was a great meet up.

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Speaker 1: Thank you everyone for coming. I'm sorry it next time

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Speaker 1: we have to do it again. If it happens, maybe

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Speaker 1: the off season has been kicked off with a bang.

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Speaker 1: We're gonna be dealing with this for the next three months,

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Speaker 1: if not four or five. We'll be back on Thursday,

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Speaker 1: which is tomorrow. Another another big show. Because again, like

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Speaker 1: you heard in the p s A, although Super Bowls over,

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Speaker 1: there's a lot going on. UH So we will start

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Speaker 1: looking ahead to free agency. We might have a surprise

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Speaker 1: guest on Thursday two. We might. That's a nice little tease,

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Speaker 1: so good tease, right professional, Colleen, you've said it all

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Speaker 1: and you've done it again. Thank you. This is great

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Speaker 1: and I handed off to Lindsay Rhodes for tomorrow, right scepter.

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Speaker 1: Yes to the crowd, what like what do you rosie

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Speaker 1: for those like the secrets Hanna? Oh yeah that's right,

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Speaker 1: that's great. Um so yes, Colleen steps out, Lindsay steps in.

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Speaker 1: So big show coming up Thursday. Make sure you tune

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Speaker 1: back in until then. This is Dan Hansas signing off

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Speaker 1: for Quiet Storm the Mailman Connie fox Brand behind the

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Speaker 1: Glass Down Thursday,