Speaker 1: Broadcasting live from the Abraham Lincoln Radio Studio, the George
Speaker 1: Washington Broadcast Center, Jack Armstrong and Joe Ketty Armstrong and Jetty,
Speaker 1: I know he Armstrong and Yetty.
Speaker 2: The New York Times last week published a profile on
Speaker 2: three people who were in romantic relationships with AI chatbots.
Speaker 1: It's heartbreaking.
Speaker 2: And I know I had a girlfriend in college who
Speaker 2: left me for Jeeves.
Speaker 1: That's my fault.
Speaker 2: I remember one time I said, go ask someone else,
Speaker 2: and that was it.
Speaker 3: AI relationships. We talked a lot about that earlier in
Speaker 3: the week. If you didn't catch that, that was really
Speaker 3: I'd forgotten about that. Or was that last week whenever
Speaker 3: we did The New York Times had the profile of
Speaker 3: three different people that were in AI relationships. I guess
Speaker 3: that was a week ago, last Friday. But that was
Speaker 3: a lot of people brought that up to me. Troubling,
Speaker 3: very troubly. Oh yeah, yeah, and I think that's just beginning. Yeah,
Speaker 3: and speaking obviously, it's just beginning.
Speaker 4: I think it will grow and grow and grow until
Speaker 4: human beings are unrecognizable.
Speaker 3: Yeah, speaking of that sort of thing, what is this Basically,
Speaker 3: we're about to hear Michael.
Speaker 5: What this is is there's a new app called two Way,
Speaker 5: and then they basically take three minutes of video, let's say,
Speaker 5: and then let me talk to my deceased loved ones.
Speaker 5: So I could take my dad recently passed away, so
Speaker 5: I could take three minutes of video, send it to him,
Speaker 5: and then they would make an AI of him so.
Speaker 1: I could talk to him an avatar on an avatar.
Speaker 4: Yeah, you know, talking to you in their voice and
Speaker 4: the facial expressions and all of it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, this is an example of that. He's getting bigger.
Speaker 1: See oh my wonderful, kicking like crazy.
Speaker 5: He's listening.
Speaker 1: Put your hand on your tummy and hum damn. You
Speaker 1: still love to say him. Hey, Charlie, I was school today.
Speaker 2: It was really fun Loo.
Speaker 1: Who's going to be a great grandmother?
Speaker 4: Oh, Charlie, congratulation.
Speaker 1: She says that he's been kicking a lot though. Tell
Speaker 1: her to put her hand on her tommy and hummed him.
Speaker 1: You already said that, Robot, you would have loved this moment.
Speaker 3: You can call any time.
Speaker 1: Thanks Robot. Grannie. Wow, you know it's funny.
Speaker 4: I was reading about this and thinking, you know, that's
Speaker 4: a little odd when I heard Grannie, Oh, that's.
Speaker 1: Wonderful Charlie had creep the hell out of me.
Speaker 4: In twenty twenty, Kanye gave Kim Kardashian a hologram message
Speaker 4: of her late father for her birthday. So if it's
Speaker 4: good enough for Kanye, So.
Speaker 3: I'm trying to think of this in real life. Would
Speaker 3: I get any pleasure slash enjoyment out of you know,
Speaker 3: my parents are alive, but let's assume one of them
Speaker 3: is passed and they didn't get to meet my kids.
Speaker 3: Would I have gotten any enjoyment out of having a
Speaker 3: fake video that looked and sounded like my dad saying,
Speaker 3: you know, here's the should go out and play catch
Speaker 3: with him and stuff like that. Would that just make
Speaker 3: me incredibly Henry? How's school going? Yeah, before I even
Speaker 3: introduce Henry to him? Just talking about myself? Would that
Speaker 3: make me happy and fill me with like my dad's
Speaker 3: getting to meet my son. I wish he were here,
Speaker 3: or just make me unbearably sad, like really diving into
Speaker 3: the fact that he's not here. I just I don't
Speaker 3: feel like it would give me comforter or make me
Speaker 3: happier in any way.
Speaker 4: Maybe it's genetic or something, but I have the same reaction.
Speaker 4: I would have to quote unquote a quote unquote AI
Speaker 4: girlfriend slash lover. I'd think, Wow, this is a weird
Speaker 4: simulacrum of real life and it's making me uncomfortable.
Speaker 3: And that's just for me because I assume that that's
Speaker 3: what was going on there with the pregnant woman. Grandma's
Speaker 3: not around, So now grandma is getting to talk to
Speaker 3: you about your pregnancy and can you feel the baby cake.
Speaker 1: And stuff like that? Does that make you feel good?
Speaker 3: I mean, who's this for? It's not for grandma. Grandma's
Speaker 3: dead and they ain't Grandma talking, So is this for you?
Speaker 3: And do you feel like you've got a connection with
Speaker 3: your grandma now.
Speaker 1: Or does that just make you extra sad that she's
Speaker 1: not around.
Speaker 4: I don't.
Speaker 3: I don't get that at all. Who's enjoying this in
Speaker 3: this scenario?
Speaker 1: Katie? Do you understand maybe I'm missing.
Speaker 6: Saying I hate this, but I also feel like it's
Speaker 6: stripping away a part of life, Like I learned a
Speaker 6: lot of lessons when my grandparents passed away, and you
Speaker 6: know that whole you know, we lose people and it's
Speaker 6: kind of making that blurry.
Speaker 4: Wow, that's a great insight. It is removing one of
Speaker 4: the basic rhythms of life. It's like when Rudolph the
Speaker 4: Red Nose Reindeer became available year round. It's just you're
Speaker 4: blowing up the rhythms that make life worth living.
Speaker 1: Now, that's for the adults.
Speaker 3: That's like for me to have my dad, if he
Speaker 3: were dead, come back and talk to me about my son.
Speaker 3: I just think that would make me sadder rather than comforted.
Speaker 3: Now to the kid, that makes you they should take
Speaker 3: your kids away from you. If you're gonna have fake
Speaker 3: grandma talk to your little kid who doesn't have the
Speaker 3: ability to really understand what the hell is going on here,
Speaker 3: that this segment brought to you by Two Way, that
Speaker 3: is that is horrible having your little kid here talk
Speaker 3: to fake grandma.
Speaker 1: Are you gonna pretend she's alive?
Speaker 3: Or are you gonna try to convince that talking to
Speaker 3: robot people is a thing?
Speaker 1: What are you doing? I know, I know.
Speaker 4: So they put this video online, try the two Way
Speaker 4: beta on the app Store, Android coming soon, and immediately
Speaker 4: people drew comparisons to an unsettling twenty thirteen episode of
Speaker 4: Black Mirror entitled be Right Back, in which a grieving
Speaker 4: woman uses an AI replica for dead partner. Social media
Speaker 4: users did not hold back. Many call the videos nightmare
Speaker 4: fuel monic, and some claim the technology should be destroyed.
Speaker 1: Nightmare fuel.
Speaker 4: Yeah the whole hey son, talk to phone app Grandma.
Speaker 4: She wants to hear about your big math test. Yeah,
Speaker 4: you really ought to have your kids taken away?
Speaker 1: Yes, So most of the stuff is presented to us.
Speaker 3: You think, well, if that worked, I could conceive of
Speaker 3: wanting that, Like the robot we were talking about last
Speaker 3: Hour Hour one, the Tesla robot. If it can mold
Speaker 3: the lawn, fold the laundry, I don't know, rake the leaves.
Speaker 3: You could see how that possibly might be something you want.
Speaker 3: In this one, are are most people reacting to, Oh
Speaker 3: that sounds great? How soon can I get fake dead
Speaker 3: relatives talking to me? Or is everybody reacting like us?
Speaker 3: One that would make me sad or not happier. And two,
Speaker 3: I'm not introducing it to my kids because it's gonna
Speaker 3: twist their little minds.
Speaker 4: All right, just you're failing to see the future. I'm
Speaker 4: combining both concepts. I've got you. Look out in your
Speaker 4: front yard and there's your old dead grandpa raking leaves
Speaker 4: a perfect replica ropot of him.
Speaker 3: Huh huh killing two birds with one stone. Yes, so
Speaker 3: we could bring Grandpa back to life. What we do
Speaker 3: is have him do manual labor around the house to
Speaker 3: free us up to do other things, both heartwarming and practical.
Speaker 1: It's the new Getti bot. Boy.
Speaker 3: If I could bring my dad back, I'd have him
Speaker 3: right belong so I could watch his football game.
Speaker 1: Sounds like a great alpda help around the house. This
Speaker 1: is so clearly the final chapter of you man.
Speaker 3: Oh if my mom we're just here today, she could
Speaker 3: so much so I could go out to the bar.
Speaker 1: Oh my god, Oh Laura, all right, we need to stop. Wow,
Speaker 1: that's what I want. An odd thing.
Speaker 3: Do they think they're presenting? And maybe I'm wrong? Maybe
Speaker 3: I'm an outlier. I'm often an outlier on things. Are
Speaker 3: they presenting this to people and people are saying, Oh,
Speaker 3: they'd be so fantastic that my son, who never got
Speaker 3: to meet my dad grandpa, could have an interaction with him.
Speaker 1: Are people doing that feeling?
Speaker 4: No, No, that the interactive part is the bizarre and
Speaker 4: demonic part. To me, excuse me, if you could I mean,
Speaker 4: if you could have like a super realistic based on
Speaker 4: their actual voice from videos, that sort of thing, because
Speaker 4: that's what this does. Like my mom, who I missed
Speaker 4: very much, if I could have her this is coming
Speaker 4: together in my mind in real time, either saying things
Speaker 4: that she frequently said or said in the video in
Speaker 4: a rapidly accessible form. I suppose I could put a
Speaker 4: video clip on my phone. I mean, just like to
Speaker 4: have my mom with my mom's voice saying what she
Speaker 4: used to say that I could see, instead of just
Speaker 4: to still photograph in a readily accessible form. That would
Speaker 4: be kind of nice, But no, I don't want it
Speaker 4: pretending to wonder how my day went.
Speaker 1: Yeah, this is an extreme Well, I don't know.
Speaker 3: I didn't think that people would get into relationships with chatbots,
Speaker 3: and a lot more people are doing it than I realized.
Speaker 3: So maybe that crowd would be happier in heck to
Speaker 3: have fake grandma pretending to care about near unborn child.
Speaker 4: Okay, so I'm there at the two Way brain Trust
Speaker 4: meeting and our zombie Gramma thing just didn't sell.
Speaker 1: Here's my next concept.
Speaker 4: Historical figures carefully crafted based on all their writing and speaking,
Speaker 4: everything that's known about them, how their voice was described contemporaneously,
Speaker 4: Washington would probably have a fairly regal British accent, somewhat
Speaker 4: softened to buy his time here in the colonies, that
Speaker 4: sort of thing. Talk to Abe Lincoln. That would be
Speaker 4: interesting that.
Speaker 1: I would do.
Speaker 3: That is very very cool, But that's a completely different thing.
Speaker 1: Then agreed.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, Look, we poured all this money into a
Speaker 4: zombie Grandma go. We gotta come up with something to
Speaker 4: make some profits. So I'm going with the uh living Lincoln.
Speaker 4: We're gonna call it.
Speaker 1: Man.
Speaker 3: I wish my grandma was still alive so she could
Speaker 3: watch the kids so I can go to this concert tonight.
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Speaker 3: One thing I've been saying for years to people about
Speaker 3: this job is it made me realize there's way more
Speaker 3: crazy people than you think there are. So if you
Speaker 3: live kind of a regular life and you bump up
Speaker 3: with against mostly regular people your entire life, you have
Speaker 3: a certain concept of what people are like. And then
Speaker 3: doing this job. Used to just be letters, was email,
Speaker 3: now email and text and now social media reinteraction with
Speaker 3: the show, there are way more crazy people than you
Speaker 3: ever thought because you don't run into them out there
Speaker 3: in the real world. So and or irrational. Yeah, crazy,
Speaker 3: I'm using a very vague vert. Crazy people that are
Speaker 3: way different than you are. Like, way different than you are.
Speaker 3: There's a lot more of them than you think, and
Speaker 3: so I need to keep that in mind. With the
Speaker 3: percentage of people that might fall in love with chatbots
Speaker 3: or want ai grandma to talk to their kid or
Speaker 3: give them comforting advice or about life or whatever. It
Speaker 3: might be way more of them than I think, way more.
Speaker 3: And what percentage would you need to have before it
Speaker 3: kind of up in society? If five percent of society
Speaker 3: is doing only on robot grandma's and robot relationships, what
Speaker 3: does that do to things? I don't know?
Speaker 1: Is this some sort of Darwinian thinning of the herd? Wow?
Speaker 4: I say most people are not going to reproduce? Just
Speaker 4: clicked in my head.
Speaker 3: Yeah that's an interesting thought and maybe maybe a net positive.
Speaker 3: We don't agree not but maybe yeah, they can't reproduce.
Speaker 3: They won't certainly let me ask.
Speaker 1: My robot Lincoln. Well, in my opinion for score.
Speaker 3: So much fun checking out with the stock market that
Speaker 3: went way down yesterday, down pretty decent today.
Speaker 1: What's it all about? Is the big question?
Speaker 3: Lots of other stuff talk about stay here, California're going
Speaker 3: to be the first state to with a billionaire's penalty
Speaker 3: at least that's going to be a prop that we
Speaker 3: vote on soon.
Speaker 1: Stay tuned for details on that.
Speaker 4: And speaking of big money, fourteen arrested in New Jersey
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Speaker 3: of the hottest items we've ever had in our store.
Speaker 1: What I loved, I can't.
Speaker 4: I can't wait to wear mine. I cannot wait. So this,
Speaker 4: I'm gonna be like a little kid with a Superman
Speaker 4: a costume. I'm gonna wear it to sleep, I'm gonna
Speaker 4: wear when I get up in the morning. I'm gonna
Speaker 4: cry when I have to take it off to take
Speaker 4: a shower.
Speaker 3: To Gavin Newsom's credit, which I rarely say, he actually
Speaker 3: opposes this new Union backed ballot measure aimed at billionaires.
Speaker 3: I think it's because he's running for president, although the
Speaker 3: Elizabeth Warren AOC Bernie Sanders wing might come after him
Speaker 3: for opposing this. But anyway, here's the idea behind it.
Speaker 3: This ballot initiative, proposed by healthcare workers unions, would take
Speaker 3: aim at the richest people in the richest state with
Speaker 3: a one time five percent tax on net worth over
Speaker 3: a billion dollars. This would mean pursuing assets like stocks, artwork,
Speaker 3: intellectual property in addition to income and everything else. It's
Speaker 3: just you are super rich. You're super rich to have
Speaker 3: a bunch of stuff, so we're going to take five percent.
Speaker 1: Of it intellectual property, so like a patent or the hell.
Speaker 3: It almost seems like it's designed to make whoever hasn't
Speaker 3: gone to Texas yet, like Elon Musk leave California to
Speaker 3: get Zuckerberg and is Altman already in Texas? Who all
Speaker 3: your big players Google whoever? To force them to leave
Speaker 3: the state.
Speaker 4: I think you would see a mass exodus of the
Speaker 4: biggest names in tech.
Speaker 3: Yeah, this proposal represents am reading from the Wall Street Journal,
Speaker 3: this proposal represents an unprecedented effort to tax modern wealth
Speaker 3: now they need eight turned to seventy five thousand signatures.
Speaker 3: But I've seen crazier things happen in the thirty years
Speaker 3: that I've been in California. I never thought we'd get
Speaker 3: driver's licenses for illegals. Was laughable in the beginning, then
Speaker 3: became just a thing. So maybe taxing billionaires for the
Speaker 3: fact that they've accumulated that much wealth and driving them
Speaker 3: out of the state will become a thing too. In
Speaker 3: terms of billionaires by state, California is way the leader.
Speaker 3: California has an estimated two hundred and fifty five billionaires,
Speaker 3: more than any other state and almost a quarter of
Speaker 3: the US total. Let's take their stuff, Let's take their money,
Speaker 3: because how dare they? How dare they right?
Speaker 4: How they dare they come up with something that everybody wants?
Speaker 4: We'll punish them for that.
Speaker 3: What a weird way to look at the world that,
Speaker 3: by definition, because they're billionaires, they deserve to give us
Speaker 3: more money, and they've probably done something wrong to get
Speaker 3: that money, because there's no way you become a billionaire
Speaker 3: playing chair.
Speaker 4: Yeah yeah, Well, if you see the entire world through
Speaker 4: the lens of victim and an oppressor, and everybody is
Speaker 4: one or the other. It's easy to figure out what
Speaker 4: a billionaire would be. By the way, this is a
Speaker 4: wasted breath, But a reasonable value added tax would take
Speaker 4: care of virtually every objection in the left, right, and
Speaker 4: center to the tax code where expenditures are taxed, period,
Speaker 4: because I know what they're driving at the wealthy. They
Speaker 4: borrow against the value of their stocks and they spend
Speaker 4: that money and they don't have to enlist it as income.
Speaker 4: Blah blah blah. Value add attacks would solve that. But again,
Speaker 4: wasted breath. It'll never happen because our tax code exists
Speaker 4: to a engineer society to some extent, and b handout
Speaker 4: favors to the powerful.
Speaker 3: Affordability is the word of the day, word of the week,
Speaker 3: word of the month, maybe the word of the next
Speaker 3: several years. We can talk about that among other things
Speaker 3: coming up.
Speaker 1: Armstrong and getty. Things are getting better.
Speaker 7: As a presidential signature reopened the government, the president's mind
Speaker 7: jumped to the midterms.
Speaker 8: When we come up to midterms and other things, don't
Speaker 8: forget what they've done.
Speaker 1: To our country.
Speaker 7: Vice President Vance is rolling out the latest messaging on affordability,
Speaker 7: tying high prices two high rates of illegal immigration.
Speaker 9: A lot of young people are saying housing is way
Speaker 9: too expensive.
Speaker 1: Why is that because we flooded the.
Speaker 9: Country with thirty million illegal immigrants who were taking houses
Speaker 9: that ought by right go to American citizens.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 3: I think the tying illegal immigration to rents and housing
Speaker 3: prices is a bit of a stretch. And one of
Speaker 3: the reasons I think that is it's a brand new
Speaker 3: argument that just landed all of us sudden after getting
Speaker 3: killed in the elections last Tuesday around the issue of affordability,
Speaker 3: and everybody's talking about it, and it's such a clear
Speaker 3: win if you can make it seem like illegal immigration
Speaker 3: cause it well, that's something we're good at and it
Speaker 3: wasn't our fault.
Speaker 4: Well and as a couple of immigration hawks ourselves, it's
Speaker 4: not a non factor in housing. But to go there
Speaker 4: first is just silly. Certainly a brand new argument. Yeah,
Speaker 4: I don't remember ever saying that before. I've heard that
Speaker 4: in urban areas, you know, drives up the rents and
Speaker 4: that sort of thing. But yeah, to say that that's
Speaker 4: the number one reason is just silly.
Speaker 3: I just mean out of the Trump White House, I
Speaker 3: don't remember ever hearing them use that as the reason
Speaker 3: it seems like a brand new argument that they've rolled about,
Speaker 3: which is politically maybe clever. This whole concept of a
Speaker 3: national conversation. You hear this sometimes when people say we
Speaker 3: need to have a national conversation about we need to
Speaker 3: have a conversation in this country about race or whatever.
Speaker 1: It is quite understood what it is. But I guess
Speaker 1: it's just.
Speaker 3: The chattering going on in the air right or on
Speaker 3: your computer and articles here and there, and what podcasts
Speaker 3: are saying, and what radio talk show hosts like us
Speaker 3: are saying, and whatever people are saying. I guess that's
Speaker 3: what a national conversation is. And I think it's definitely
Speaker 3: a good thing. If we're going to have a national
Speaker 3: conversation about affordability, just all the way around and make
Speaker 3: that the number one topic. I think that's a damn
Speaker 3: good idea because things are really expensive, and I don't
Speaker 3: know what the prescription is for fixing this. I think
Speaker 3: acknowledging the fact that it's true, since whoever's in power
Speaker 3: has a great motivation to pretend it's not true. Joe
Speaker 3: Biden claiming that inflation, no, there is no inflation. Okay,
Speaker 3: there is, but it won't be here long are things
Speaker 3: are actually great out there?
Speaker 1: And when they weren't.
Speaker 3: And then Donald Trump the other day saying, you know,
Speaker 3: I'm not we have the best economy in the world
Speaker 3: and I'm not getting credit for it. Well, at least
Speaker 3: prior to yes, we were setting records every day on
Speaker 3: the stock market. But that doesn't make any difference when
Speaker 3: you go to the grocery store, you go to Denny's
Speaker 3: like I did last Saturday night with my kids, and
Speaker 3: it's sixty five dollars for us to eat at Denny's.
Speaker 1: I mean, what the hell we Oh?
Speaker 4: Yeah, affluent people are going around saying, my god, everything's
Speaker 4: so expensive in the base of the MAGA base, it's
Speaker 4: you know, maybe not panic might overstate.
Speaker 1: It, but it's not too many steps below panic. Yeah.
Speaker 3: So brought up insurance because somebody had mentioned in an email.
Speaker 3: Everybody talks about eggs and coffee and rent, but nobody
Speaker 3: talks about car.
Speaker 1: Insurance and homeowners insurance. Just incredible.
Speaker 3: Those are things you need to have if you need to.
Speaker 3: If you own a home, you have DEVID car insurance.
Speaker 3: For instance. We got a couple of texts. This is
Speaker 3: from somebody in Carson City. Thanks for listening to us
Speaker 3: on the Reno station. Probably their nineteen year old son
Speaker 3: just passed the driver's test, and he said, that's a
Speaker 3: whole other story. While kids are getting their driver's licenses
Speaker 3: so much later. I know that's more and more common now.
Speaker 3: But man, I got my driver's license. Well I got
Speaker 3: it at fourteen, but in Kansas at the time. But
Speaker 3: there's no way I would have waited until I was
Speaker 3: nineteen to get my driver's license.
Speaker 4: I would have endured a whipping every day for six
Speaker 4: weeks if it got me my driver's license, right, No
Speaker 4: gidding sixteen anyway.
Speaker 3: Talking about the car insurance for their kid five sixty
Speaker 3: a month or for six months, it's three three hundred
Speaker 3: and sixty dollars for a nineteen year old to have
Speaker 3: car insurance on the car.
Speaker 1: That they got him. Great Scott, five sixty a month.
Speaker 1: Oh my gosh.
Speaker 3: I mean most of us, going back in the day,
Speaker 3: if you were gonna buy a car and make car payments,
Speaker 3: you just thought about the car payment. You didn't think
Speaker 3: about the insurance because it was gonna be something, but
Speaker 3: you didn't really need it wasn't enough to really factor in.
Speaker 3: Now you have to look at it like the beck,
Speaker 3: like the car payment. It might be more than the
Speaker 3: car payment.
Speaker 4: You've got to just strip everything down to liability and
Speaker 4: like ensuring the other driver and if you plow into
Speaker 4: them or whatever, because that's just that's not it's a
Speaker 4: non starter.
Speaker 1: Yeah, here's another example.
Speaker 3: I have a twenty twelve Honda Fit and I pay
Speaker 3: one to eighty seven a month for the bare minimum
Speaker 3: insurance to let me get almost two hundred dollars a
Speaker 3: month for a probably paid off, thirteen year old small car.
Speaker 1: Yeah that's a lot.
Speaker 3: So yeah, when it comes to affordability, I don't know
Speaker 3: what can be done about homeowner's insurance and car insurance.
Speaker 1: You know, I don't even want to say this out loud.
Speaker 3: I'm a renter. Currently, renders insurance is still ridiculously cheap.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, why renders insurance so freaking cheap?
Speaker 1: It's just your stuff, it's not the structure, I guess.
Speaker 4: Yeah, your your evil clutching landlord has to pay that,
Speaker 4: although it's in your rent, as anybody with any economic
Speaker 4: sense understands.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, hey, getting back, you know, i'd like to.
Speaker 4: Take talk more about car insurance and homeowners insurance, but
Speaker 4: they're kind of different beasts and a lot of complexity.
Speaker 1: There, a lot of layers of regulation.
Speaker 3: Oh sure, they're different beasts, but they are left out
Speaker 3: of the conversation. You know, Like I said earlier, eggs
Speaker 3: schmegs quit talking about the price I eggs my car
Speaker 3: insurance is killing me.
Speaker 1: I'll eat oatmeal, but I got to insure my car.
Speaker 4: Yeah, agreed, completely, Getting back to our previous topic, which
Speaker 4: doesn't matter, doesn't need to be reset. But folks within
Speaker 4: MAGA or certainly the Republican Party of the Republican base
Speaker 4: being unhappy with the president and vocally so it's definitely
Speaker 4: on the increase. Whether it's the Epstein thing, which we
Speaker 4: were going to circle back to, not to discuss at
Speaker 4: their length, but we got the inevitable couple of emails
Speaker 4: and texts from people who are just really unhappy with us.
Speaker 3: I'm looking at CBS News. They're interviewing Marjorie Taylor Green
Speaker 3: right now. She's on there talking about the Epstein files,
Speaker 3: and she's hardcore. These things need to be released and
Speaker 3: it's the big story on CBS right now.
Speaker 1: Well, she's also.
Speaker 4: Hardcore denouncing the reason aide to Argentina.
Speaker 3: But she's as meg as you can get or I
Speaker 3: don't even know what that means anymore. Has Megan now?
Speaker 3: Has Magan now become a thing separate from Trump?
Speaker 1: I guess is the question that is the question? Yeah?
Speaker 4: Absolutely, Trump says no, I invented it, So what I
Speaker 4: say goes uh uh that it's mostly true but not entirely.
Speaker 4: But MGT is a MTG is also a hardcore on
Speaker 4: what was the other one, oh, extending the Obamacare something
Speaker 4: of all horrific things. Something we're going to get into
Speaker 4: during our three of the show, so to stay tuned.
Speaker 4: But then they name checking the Washington Post and it's
Speaker 4: pretty even handed article. It's not like liberal journalism that
Speaker 4: there's definitely more open criticism. You're Thomas Massey's your Marjorie
Speaker 4: Taylor Green's Trump upset a lot of people when he
Speaker 4: was pushing for more h one B visus the other
Speaker 4: day saying we don't have enough talented people in the country,
Speaker 4: we need to import workers. That caused at least a
Speaker 4: mini flap where this goes. Nobody knows events, dear boy, events.
Speaker 4: As the old English statesman, I once said.
Speaker 3: I forget who I was watching last night, somebody else
Speaker 3: who was more MAGA than Trump in our government, and thinking,
Speaker 3: if it's kind of like AI, you know, inventing AI.
Speaker 3: You could be the researcher that invented AI. But then
Speaker 3: it goes off on its own, the alignment problem, and
Speaker 3: it's really its own thing now and you're not in charge.
Speaker 3: I wonder if MAGA is going to be like that
Speaker 3: as a movement. Trump invented and everything, and he had
Speaker 3: control over for qua a while, but now it's kind
Speaker 3: of off on, off on off, on its own, and
Speaker 3: it's going to do its own thing, and you're, you know,
Speaker 3: be out of office in three years and it'll be
Speaker 3: whatever it's going to be.
Speaker 4: Right, Well, the heck, the history of political movements is
Speaker 4: often the guy who led the charge ends up on
Speaker 4: the gallows or separated from his noggin or whatever.
Speaker 1: That's why you kill all your rivals in that sort
Speaker 1: of system.
Speaker 4: But uh, don't forget, MAGA was my idea, Trump told
Speaker 4: Laura Ingraham the other day, Laura Ingram, MAGO is nobody
Speaker 4: else's idea. I know what MAGA wants better than anybody else.
Speaker 4: Same day, I guess it was the next day he
Speaker 4: called the Jeffrey Epstein hoax a distraction pushed by Democrats
Speaker 4: and said that only a very bad or stupid Republican
Speaker 4: would fall into that trap. You know, Trump could shoot
Speaker 4: somebody on Fifth Avenue and get away with it with
Speaker 4: a lot of his base, But I don't think it
Speaker 4: can call him stupid and get away with it.
Speaker 3: We did get a text about the Epstein files that
Speaker 3: fits in with the several we've done. Every time you
Speaker 3: attempt to sweep the Epstein files under the rug or
Speaker 3: minimize the story, and more information implicating Trump comes out,
Speaker 3: you two just look like fools covering up for the
Speaker 3: actions of a pedophile, or at least a close buddy
Speaker 3: of a convicted pedophile.
Speaker 4: You know that's funny. That doesn't bother me at all.
Speaker 4: That's just factually incorrect. I've gone through everything that's been
Speaker 4: really so far, and it is a nothing burger with
Speaker 4: air fries.
Speaker 1: It's just nothing.
Speaker 4: On the other hand, we get emails like the one
Speaker 4: from Ben in Texas, who I'll summarize the first time
Speaker 4: I have been disgusted by your take on something. I
Speaker 4: can't even imagine being one of the many Epstein survivors
Speaker 4: who publicly come out and said there are other rich
Speaker 4: and powerful abusers who have been named in police and
Speaker 4: FBI reports that for some reason, have faced zero consequences.
Speaker 4: We would like that to change, only to hear radio
Speaker 4: hosts called her please dumb and a nothing burger. No,
Speaker 4: if survivors are actually saying that we have and never
Speaker 4: would call that dumb and a nothing burger, it's the
Speaker 4: greater scandal and the call by hypocritic politicians, hypocritical politicians
Speaker 4: to release the files that they've had in their possessions
Speaker 4: for years and years, that is fake And on the
Speaker 4: substance of your note, Ben and I don't mind you
Speaker 4: being upset and disagreeing this fine, We can absolutely still
Speaker 4: be friends. I don't think people fully realize how awful
Speaker 4: it would be if every person named in every investigation
Speaker 4: the authorities.
Speaker 1: Came out and said it publicly.
Speaker 4: So there's very little evidence you did anything bad, or
Speaker 4: practically none, but you were named in the investigation. Maybe
Speaker 4: there's some evidence that you may have been up to
Speaker 4: something bad, but there's nothing close to prosecutable levels of
Speaker 4: information to have the FBI come out and name you know,
Speaker 4: Jack Armstrong and Katie Green as part of a sex
Speaker 4: trafficking investigation, when in fact you were cleared or or
Speaker 4: they just you know, there's no evidence really to look
Speaker 4: further around.
Speaker 1: You were never going to be charged with anything, right,
Speaker 1: that would be horrific.
Speaker 3: Well, as you've been putting up from the beginning of
Speaker 3: the Epstein story, what are we talking about here? So
Speaker 3: are we talking about I'll just use some names that
Speaker 3: have been floated out there, Bill Gates, Adam Dershowitz, Ahud Barack,
Speaker 3: former Prime Minister of Israel. Were they knowingly having sex
Speaker 3: with underage women and got away with it? If they
Speaker 3: were and you could prove it, then you ought to
Speaker 3: go after him. But are you talking about the and
Speaker 3: I think a lot of you are, because I know
Speaker 3: some of you. Are you talking about the giant child
Speaker 3: pedal ring that all of Hollywood is involved in and
Speaker 3: Michelle Obama and the Clintons and blah blah blah.
Speaker 1: You're not.
Speaker 3: None of that happened or is happening. That doesn't exist.
Speaker 3: And if that's what you're talking about, and I know
Speaker 3: a lot of you are, we're not covering up anything
Speaker 3: because that's fake.
Speaker 1: That is completely phony. So it's not a real thing.
Speaker 4: Final word to Ben in Texas. Ben, you made it
Speaker 4: perfectly clear you don't believe what Jack was talking about.
Speaker 4: So you're not in that group. If there are people
Speaker 4: so wealthy and powerful that the authorities dare not charge
Speaker 4: them with statutory rape, for instance, our sex trafficking, but
Speaker 4: there's mountains of evidence against them, I would agree one
Speaker 4: hundred percent with you that we need to get to
Speaker 4: the bottom of that and it must come out one
Speaker 4: way or another. But both parties have had a good
Speaker 4: solid shot at the information for a long time and
Speaker 4: the opportunity to bring down each other's you know, sacred cows,
Speaker 4: and they haven't done it yet.
Speaker 1: Yeah. I was watching MSNBC last night.
Speaker 3: They the focus of their our News program was the
Speaker 3: Epstein thing, and they had a panel of people on there,
Speaker 3: including our friend David Drucker who's now with The Dispatch,
Speaker 3: and he kind of threw cold water on their conversation
Speaker 3: when he said, you know, a lot of these emails
Speaker 3: that they mentioned Trump, and it's kind of exciting to
Speaker 3: see Trump's name and everything, but he said, nothing implicates
Speaker 3: him in anything at all yet. So and yeah, we're
Speaker 3: pretty far down the road of this. Lots of lots
Speaker 3: of emails and details and information and still nothing.
Speaker 4: Close, not even a concrete leak right right, which just
Speaker 4: tells me there's nothing there.
Speaker 1: Although Ben, we certainly could be wrong.
Speaker 4: It's funny that you should bring up the Trump involvement,
Speaker 4: which I've kind of almost forgotten about as we were.
Speaker 1: Talking about the others.
Speaker 4: Just another one of these six to eight different versions
Speaker 4: of the Epstein thing that people are coming at this
Speaker 4: with that point of view.
Speaker 3: Well for the left, which again MSNBC, this is their
Speaker 3: lead story all week long. It's all about Trump's involvement
Speaker 3: and there's just nothing there. Have fun, yea, Rachel, Have fun, Rachel. Okay,
Speaker 3: we got more on the way. Stay here.
Speaker 8: Lift off for a massive Blue Origin rocket, the company's
Speaker 8: new Glen rocket now making its way to Mars with
Speaker 8: a pair of NASA spacecraft.
Speaker 1: The rocket's mission to.
Speaker 8: Mars is the first major test for the space company,
Speaker 8: owned by Jeff Bezos.
Speaker 1: It also marked a big win for Blue Origins.
Speaker 8: Rocket booster landed safely back on Earth, a feat only
Speaker 8: achieved by Elon Musk's SpaceX.
Speaker 3: I hope they get to Mars in my lifetime and get,
Speaker 3: you know, great footage coming out of there, and learn
Speaker 3: all kinds of stuff fascinating.
Speaker 4: Katy Perry will be missed on Earth. However, I assume
Speaker 4: she's on that rocket ships.
Speaker 3: Tell us if she's in the Blue Origins leading astronauts
Speaker 3: she's not, she should be Yes, shoot her. I've been
Speaker 3: saying that for a long time.
Speaker 4: So just a real quickly, College sports rocked by mafia
Speaker 4: led gambling scandal fourteen charged and of course.
Speaker 1: New Jersey forget about it.
Speaker 4: College wrestlers, two former ructors, university wrestlers, and a newly
Speaker 4: certified NBA agent Wrestling individuals charge.
Speaker 1: Who's betting on college wrestling betters?
Speaker 4: In short, let's see the charges are the usual two
Speaker 4: million dollar online sports betting operation. One alleged lou Casey
Speaker 4: Mob family soldier Joseph Lull Joe perna is acting as
Speaker 4: a acted as a financier supporting the operation with a
Speaker 4: couple of his sons.
Speaker 3: Forget about it, you put him in a fireman's carry
Speaker 3: in the third period. I'm gonna bet on a headlock
Speaker 3: and that'll cause me to win or something.
Speaker 4: You're gonna get him down, but then you're gonna get
Speaker 4: let him get up, and then you're gonna get him
Speaker 4: down again. If I could, I would. We are going
Speaker 4: to hear about this sort of thing so routinely. It's
Speaker 4: like the you know, the the police blotterer in your
Speaker 4: local paper back in the day, you know, a fender bender.
Speaker 3: I have a feeling, isn't betting on college wrestling? Kind
Speaker 3: of like if you're a drinker and you're in the
Speaker 3: cabinet drinking vanilla extract? I mean, aren't you to the
Speaker 3: point where you ought to realize you got a problem?
Speaker 4: Yummy yummy good stuff. Actually they don't make clear that
Speaker 4: it's about wrestling. It was a couple of former wrests
Speaker 4: who are charged offshore sites, etcetera. Et Sara, Yeah, okay, ah,
Speaker 4: right again, we're gonna hear about this all the time. Oh,
Speaker 4: speaking of the business pages, mention this at the very
Speaker 4: very end of yesterday's show, And the more I read,
Speaker 4: the more interesting it becomes. Who pays when AI is wrong?
Speaker 4: And they tell a story of this solar contractor in Minnesota,
Speaker 4: Wolf River Electric. They started to lose all sorts of business,
Speaker 4: and they started calling clients and saying, hey, why did
Speaker 4: you cancel? We've had a great relationship. Bap bah bah,
Speaker 4: And they said, well, you know, you've been sued by
Speaker 4: the government for deceptive sales practices, and the Wolf River
Speaker 4: guys are like waw ai, completely.
Speaker 1: Made it up.
Speaker 4: They think maybe based on a video game that has
Speaker 4: a location near called Wolf River, or the game is
Speaker 4: called Wolf River.
Speaker 1: I can't remember.
Speaker 3: It does need to be for any reason. Sometimes it
Speaker 3: makes stuff up out of thin.
Speaker 4: Air, right, And they go into a bunch of different
Speaker 4: examples of this, And part of the problem them with
Speaker 4: slander laws is that there has.
Speaker 1: To be intent.
Speaker 3: Yeah, we need to merely be wrong. This could end
Speaker 3: the whole AI thing, depending on the court rulings, might
Speaker 3: be the end of AI. I'm sorry, we got to cancel.
Speaker 3: AI can't happen because of this.
Speaker 4: Next hour plus the Republican Party needs to figure out
Speaker 4: healthcare or it should fold up its big tent and
Speaker 4: go away all next hour.
Speaker 1: Please stay with us, Armstrong and Getty