WEBVTT - Zombie Grandma 0:00:01.880 --> 0:00:06.200 Broadcasting live from the Abraham Lincoln Radio Studio, the George 0:00:06.240 --> 0:00:11.360 Washington Broadcast Center, Jack Armstrong and Joe Ketty Armstrong and Jetty, 0:00:11.680 --> 0:00:17.320 I know he Armstrong and Yetty. 0:00:24.239 --> 0:00:26.680 The New York Times last week published a profile on 0:00:26.760 --> 0:00:29.960 three people who were in romantic relationships with AI chatbots. 0:00:30.000 --> 0:00:30.680 It's heartbreaking. 0:00:30.720 --> 0:00:33.000 And I know I had a girlfriend in college who 0:00:33.080 --> 0:00:34.080 left me for Jeeves. 0:00:38.720 --> 0:00:39.440 That's my fault. 0:00:39.479 --> 0:00:41.400 I remember one time I said, go ask someone else, 0:00:41.440 --> 0:00:42.040 and that was it. 0:00:45.560 --> 0:00:48.479 AI relationships. We talked a lot about that earlier in 0:00:48.479 --> 0:00:49.960 the week. If you didn't catch that, that was really 0:00:50.000 --> 0:00:52.040 I'd forgotten about that. Or was that last week whenever 0:00:52.080 --> 0:00:55.120 we did The New York Times had the profile of 0:00:55.160 --> 0:00:57.320 three different people that were in AI relationships. I guess 0:00:57.320 --> 0:00:59.040 that was a week ago, last Friday. But that was 0:00:59.120 --> 0:01:01.720 a lot of people brought that up to me. Troubling, 0:01:01.840 --> 0:01:06.600 very troubly. Oh yeah, yeah, and I think that's just beginning. Yeah, 0:01:06.640 --> 0:01:08.920 and speaking obviously, it's just beginning. 0:01:08.959 --> 0:01:10.959 I think it will grow and grow and grow until 0:01:11.080 --> 0:01:12.959 human beings are unrecognizable. 0:01:13.400 --> 0:01:16.560 Yeah, speaking of that sort of thing, what is this Basically, 0:01:16.560 --> 0:01:17.720 we're about to hear Michael. 0:01:18.600 --> 0:01:21.680 What this is is there's a new app called two Way, 0:01:22.240 --> 0:01:25.960 and then they basically take three minutes of video, let's say, 0:01:26.200 --> 0:01:28.199 and then let me talk to my deceased loved ones. 0:01:28.200 --> 0:01:30.399 So I could take my dad recently passed away, so 0:01:30.440 --> 0:01:33.119 I could take three minutes of video, send it to him, 0:01:33.120 --> 0:01:35.399 and then they would make an AI of him so. 0:01:35.360 --> 0:01:38.320 I could talk to him an avatar on an avatar. 0:01:38.400 --> 0:01:43.200 Yeah, you know, talking to you in their voice and 0:01:43.240 --> 0:01:44.640 the facial expressions and all of it. 0:01:44.720 --> 0:01:49.120 Yeah, okay, this is an example of that. He's getting bigger. 0:01:49.840 --> 0:01:54.160 See oh my wonderful, kicking like crazy. 0:01:54.560 --> 0:01:55.360 He's listening. 0:01:55.760 --> 0:01:58.920 Put your hand on your tummy and hum damn. You 0:01:59.200 --> 0:02:03.040 still love to say him. Hey, Charlie, I was school today. 0:02:03.120 --> 0:02:04.280 It was really fun Loo. 0:02:04.320 --> 0:02:05.520 Who's going to be a great grandmother? 0:02:05.640 --> 0:02:09.240 Oh, Charlie, congratulation. 0:02:09.520 --> 0:02:11.520 She says that he's been kicking a lot though. Tell 0:02:11.560 --> 0:02:14.960 her to put her hand on her tommy and hummed him. 0:02:15.160 --> 0:02:17.880 You already said that, Robot, you would have loved this moment. 0:02:18.280 --> 0:02:19.760 You can call any time. 0:02:20.240 --> 0:02:23.840 Thanks Robot. Grannie. Wow, you know it's funny. 0:02:24.080 --> 0:02:27.679 I was reading about this and thinking, you know, that's 0:02:27.720 --> 0:02:31.399 a little odd when I heard Grannie, Oh, that's. 0:02:31.360 --> 0:02:33.880 Wonderful Charlie had creep the hell out of me. 0:02:38.400 --> 0:02:43.200 In twenty twenty, Kanye gave Kim Kardashian a hologram message 0:02:43.240 --> 0:02:46.440 of her late father for her birthday. So if it's 0:02:46.440 --> 0:02:48.359 good enough for Kanye, So. 0:02:48.320 --> 0:02:51.880 I'm trying to think of this in real life. Would 0:02:51.880 --> 0:03:00.360 I get any pleasure slash enjoyment out of you know, 0:03:01.960 --> 0:03:04.240 my parents are alive, but let's assume one of them 0:03:04.360 --> 0:03:09.080 is passed and they didn't get to meet my kids. 0:03:09.800 --> 0:03:13.080 Would I have gotten any enjoyment out of having a 0:03:13.160 --> 0:03:16.280 fake video that looked and sounded like my dad saying, 0:03:16.600 --> 0:03:18.320 you know, here's the should go out and play catch 0:03:18.360 --> 0:03:20.280 with him and stuff like that. Would that just make 0:03:20.320 --> 0:03:24.880 me incredibly Henry? How's school going? Yeah, before I even 0:03:24.919 --> 0:03:27.640 introduce Henry to him? Just talking about myself? Would that 0:03:27.720 --> 0:03:30.239 make me happy and fill me with like my dad's 0:03:30.240 --> 0:03:31.959 getting to meet my son. I wish he were here, 0:03:32.080 --> 0:03:37.280 or just make me unbearably sad, like really diving into 0:03:37.360 --> 0:03:40.000 the fact that he's not here. I just I don't 0:03:40.040 --> 0:03:42.120 feel like it would give me comforter or make me 0:03:42.240 --> 0:03:43.360 happier in any way. 0:03:44.440 --> 0:03:47.600 Maybe it's genetic or something, but I have the same reaction. 0:03:47.640 --> 0:03:50.400 I would have to quote unquote a quote unquote AI 0:03:50.680 --> 0:03:54.400 girlfriend slash lover. I'd think, Wow, this is a weird 0:03:54.880 --> 0:03:57.960 simulacrum of real life and it's making me uncomfortable. 0:03:58.000 --> 0:04:00.200 And that's just for me because I assume that that's 0:04:00.200 --> 0:04:03.000 what was going on there with the pregnant woman. Grandma's 0:04:03.080 --> 0:04:05.600 not around, So now grandma is getting to talk to 0:04:05.640 --> 0:04:08.480 you about your pregnancy and can you feel the baby cake. 0:04:08.360 --> 0:04:10.520 And stuff like that? Does that make you feel good? 0:04:11.160 --> 0:04:13.960 I mean, who's this for? It's not for grandma. Grandma's 0:04:14.000 --> 0:04:17.560 dead and they ain't Grandma talking, So is this for you? 0:04:17.640 --> 0:04:19.440 And do you feel like you've got a connection with 0:04:19.480 --> 0:04:20.120 your grandma now. 0:04:20.080 --> 0:04:22.320 Or does that just make you extra sad that she's 0:04:22.360 --> 0:04:22.960 not around. 0:04:23.640 --> 0:04:23.960 I don't. 0:04:23.960 --> 0:04:27.840 I don't get that at all. Who's enjoying this in 0:04:27.839 --> 0:04:28.480 this scenario? 0:04:28.600 --> 0:04:31.279 Katie? Do you understand maybe I'm missing. 0:04:30.320 --> 0:04:34.000 Saying I hate this, but I also feel like it's 0:04:34.040 --> 0:04:36.719 stripping away a part of life, Like I learned a 0:04:36.720 --> 0:04:39.599 lot of lessons when my grandparents passed away, and you 0:04:39.640 --> 0:04:41.600 know that whole you know, we lose people and it's 0:04:41.680 --> 0:04:44.760 kind of making that blurry. 0:04:44.960 --> 0:04:47.960 Wow, that's a great insight. It is removing one of 0:04:48.000 --> 0:04:50.720 the basic rhythms of life. It's like when Rudolph the 0:04:50.760 --> 0:04:54.200 Red Nose Reindeer became available year round. It's just you're 0:04:54.240 --> 0:04:56.960 blowing up the rhythms that make life worth living. 0:04:57.000 --> 0:04:58.400 Now, that's for the adults. 0:04:58.440 --> 0:05:01.040 That's like for me to have my dad, if he 0:05:01.120 --> 0:05:03.039 were dead, come back and talk to me about my son. 0:05:03.080 --> 0:05:06.120 I just think that would make me sadder rather than comforted. 0:05:06.440 --> 0:05:09.680 Now to the kid, that makes you they should take 0:05:09.720 --> 0:05:12.640 your kids away from you. If you're gonna have fake 0:05:12.760 --> 0:05:15.440 grandma talk to your little kid who doesn't have the 0:05:15.480 --> 0:05:18.360 ability to really understand what the hell is going on here, 0:05:19.880 --> 0:05:22.960 that this segment brought to you by Two Way, that 0:05:23.120 --> 0:05:27.200 is that is horrible having your little kid here talk 0:05:27.279 --> 0:05:28.160 to fake grandma. 0:05:28.200 --> 0:05:29.720 Are you gonna pretend she's alive? 0:05:30.279 --> 0:05:32.120 Or are you gonna try to convince that talking to 0:05:32.240 --> 0:05:33.560 robot people is a thing? 0:05:33.920 --> 0:05:36.599 What are you doing? I know, I know. 0:05:36.880 --> 0:05:40.839 So they put this video online, try the two Way 0:05:40.880 --> 0:05:44.640 beta on the app Store, Android coming soon, and immediately 0:05:44.640 --> 0:05:48.560 people drew comparisons to an unsettling twenty thirteen episode of 0:05:48.600 --> 0:05:51.800 Black Mirror entitled be Right Back, in which a grieving 0:05:51.800 --> 0:05:55.120 woman uses an AI replica for dead partner. Social media 0:05:55.200 --> 0:05:59.040 users did not hold back. Many call the videos nightmare 0:05:59.080 --> 0:06:03.520 fuel monic, and some claim the technology should be destroyed. 0:06:06.240 --> 0:06:07.120 Nightmare fuel. 0:06:07.480 --> 0:06:12.200 Yeah the whole hey son, talk to phone app Grandma. 0:06:12.600 --> 0:06:15.960 She wants to hear about your big math test. Yeah, 0:06:16.000 --> 0:06:17.640 you really ought to have your kids taken away? 0:06:17.760 --> 0:06:20.360 Yes, So most of the stuff is presented to us. 0:06:22.880 --> 0:06:25.880 You think, well, if that worked, I could conceive of 0:06:25.920 --> 0:06:28.680 wanting that, Like the robot we were talking about last 0:06:28.720 --> 0:06:32.240 Hour Hour one, the Tesla robot. If it can mold 0:06:32.240 --> 0:06:35.320 the lawn, fold the laundry, I don't know, rake the leaves. 0:06:36.760 --> 0:06:39.280 You could see how that possibly might be something you want. 0:06:39.800 --> 0:06:44.400 In this one, are are most people reacting to, Oh 0:06:44.440 --> 0:06:48.640 that sounds great? How soon can I get fake dead 0:06:48.680 --> 0:06:51.440 relatives talking to me? Or is everybody reacting like us? 0:06:51.640 --> 0:06:54.839 One that would make me sad or not happier. And two, 0:06:54.839 --> 0:06:57.120 I'm not introducing it to my kids because it's gonna 0:06:57.120 --> 0:06:58.560 twist their little minds. 0:06:58.960 --> 0:07:01.960 All right, just you're failing to see the future. I'm 0:07:01.960 --> 0:07:05.200 combining both concepts. I've got you. Look out in your 0:07:05.200 --> 0:07:09.160 front yard and there's your old dead grandpa raking leaves 0:07:09.520 --> 0:07:11.720 a perfect replica ropot of him. 0:07:12.680 --> 0:07:17.600 Huh huh killing two birds with one stone. Yes, so 0:07:18.120 --> 0:07:20.400 we could bring Grandpa back to life. What we do 0:07:20.520 --> 0:07:24.160 is have him do manual labor around the house to 0:07:24.240 --> 0:07:29.720 free us up to do other things, both heartwarming and practical. 0:07:30.280 --> 0:07:32.040 It's the new Getti bot. Boy. 0:07:32.080 --> 0:07:33.960 If I could bring my dad back, I'd have him 0:07:34.000 --> 0:07:35.960 right belong so I could watch his football game. 0:07:37.680 --> 0:07:42.360 Sounds like a great alpda help around the house. This 0:07:42.520 --> 0:07:44.920 is so clearly the final chapter of you man. 0:07:45.000 --> 0:07:47.520 Oh if my mom we're just here today, she could 0:07:48.240 --> 0:07:49.840 so much so I could go out to the bar. 0:07:52.120 --> 0:07:58.200 Oh my god, Oh Laura, all right, we need to stop. Wow, 0:07:58.560 --> 0:08:00.480 that's what I want. An odd thing. 0:08:01.880 --> 0:08:04.240 Do they think they're presenting? And maybe I'm wrong? Maybe 0:08:04.240 --> 0:08:07.960 I'm an outlier. I'm often an outlier on things. Are 0:08:07.960 --> 0:08:10.320 they presenting this to people and people are saying, Oh, 0:08:10.320 --> 0:08:14.360 they'd be so fantastic that my son, who never got 0:08:14.400 --> 0:08:18.440 to meet my dad grandpa, could have an interaction with him. 0:08:18.440 --> 0:08:20.200 Are people doing that feeling? 0:08:20.280 --> 0:08:24.040 No, No, that the interactive part is the bizarre and 0:08:24.440 --> 0:08:29.680 demonic part. To me, excuse me, if you could I mean, 0:08:29.760 --> 0:08:32.200 if you could have like a super realistic based on 0:08:32.240 --> 0:08:34.440 their actual voice from videos, that sort of thing, because 0:08:34.440 --> 0:08:37.679 that's what this does. Like my mom, who I missed 0:08:37.760 --> 0:08:42.560 very much, if I could have her this is coming 0:08:42.559 --> 0:08:47.360 together in my mind in real time, either saying things 0:08:47.360 --> 0:08:50.959 that she frequently said or said in the video in 0:08:51.000 --> 0:08:56.360 a rapidly accessible form. I suppose I could put a 0:08:56.440 --> 0:08:59.080 video clip on my phone. I mean, just like to 0:08:59.120 --> 0:09:01.640 have my mom with my mom's voice saying what she 0:09:01.840 --> 0:09:05.520 used to say that I could see, instead of just 0:09:05.559 --> 0:09:08.560 to still photograph in a readily accessible form. That would 0:09:08.559 --> 0:09:10.400 be kind of nice, But no, I don't want it 0:09:10.520 --> 0:09:12.680 pretending to wonder how my day went. 0:09:16.520 --> 0:09:18.960 Yeah, this is an extreme Well, I don't know. 0:09:19.040 --> 0:09:22.600 I didn't think that people would get into relationships with chatbots, 0:09:22.880 --> 0:09:25.240 and a lot more people are doing it than I realized. 0:09:25.240 --> 0:09:28.440 So maybe that crowd would be happier in heck to 0:09:28.480 --> 0:09:33.839 have fake grandma pretending to care about near unborn child. 0:09:34.480 --> 0:09:38.920 Okay, so I'm there at the two Way brain Trust 0:09:39.000 --> 0:09:41.839 meeting and our zombie Gramma thing just didn't sell. 0:09:42.160 --> 0:09:44.240 Here's my next concept. 0:09:44.800 --> 0:09:51.320 Historical figures carefully crafted based on all their writing and speaking, 0:09:51.440 --> 0:09:57.000 everything that's known about them, how their voice was described contemporaneously, 0:09:58.679 --> 0:10:03.080 Washington would probably have a fairly regal British accent, somewhat 0:10:03.120 --> 0:10:05.160 softened to buy his time here in the colonies, that 0:10:05.200 --> 0:10:07.560 sort of thing. Talk to Abe Lincoln. That would be 0:10:07.600 --> 0:10:08.640 interesting that. 0:10:08.679 --> 0:10:09.080 I would do. 0:10:09.200 --> 0:10:11.839 That is very very cool, But that's a completely different thing. 0:10:11.920 --> 0:10:12.640 Then agreed. 0:10:12.880 --> 0:10:16.240 Yeah, yeah, Look, we poured all this money into a 0:10:16.320 --> 0:10:18.520 zombie Grandma go. We gotta come up with something to 0:10:18.520 --> 0:10:22.240 make some profits. So I'm going with the uh living Lincoln. 0:10:22.320 --> 0:10:23.080 We're gonna call it. 0:10:23.400 --> 0:10:23.640 Man. 0:10:23.679 --> 0:10:25.960 I wish my grandma was still alive so she could 0:10:25.960 --> 0:10:27.920 watch the kids so I can go to this concert tonight. 0:10:31.280 --> 0:10:33.360 Wait, now you can. 0:10:35.640 --> 0:10:40.240 Speaking of technology, you know what spikes faster than pumpkin 0:10:40.360 --> 0:10:45.320 spice lattes this time of year. 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And then 0:11:56.280 --> 0:12:00.640 doing this job. Used to just be letters, was email, 0:12:00.679 --> 0:12:03.880 now email and text and now social media reinteraction with 0:12:03.960 --> 0:12:09.480 the show, there are way more crazy people than you 0:12:09.600 --> 0:12:12.120 ever thought because you don't run into them out there 0:12:12.160 --> 0:12:17.400 in the real world. So and or irrational. Yeah, crazy, 0:12:17.440 --> 0:12:20.719 I'm using a very vague vert. Crazy people that are 0:12:20.760 --> 0:12:23.439 way different than you are. Like, way different than you are. 0:12:23.520 --> 0:12:25.240 There's a lot more of them than you think, and 0:12:25.280 --> 0:12:29.040 so I need to keep that in mind. With the 0:12:29.080 --> 0:12:31.840 percentage of people that might fall in love with chatbots 0:12:32.200 --> 0:12:34.760 or want ai grandma to talk to their kid or 0:12:34.800 --> 0:12:38.920 give them comforting advice or about life or whatever. It 0:12:39.040 --> 0:12:42.080 might be way more of them than I think, way more. 0:12:42.600 --> 0:12:45.120 And what percentage would you need to have before it 0:12:45.200 --> 0:12:47.800 kind of up in society? If five percent of society 0:12:47.840 --> 0:12:54.560 is doing only on robot grandma's and robot relationships, what 0:12:54.600 --> 0:12:56.280 does that do to things? I don't know? 0:12:57.080 --> 0:13:01.760 Is this some sort of Darwinian thinning of the herd? Wow? 0:13:02.000 --> 0:13:04.480 I say most people are not going to reproduce? Just 0:13:04.520 --> 0:13:05.280 clicked in my head. 0:13:05.400 --> 0:13:08.720 Yeah that's an interesting thought and maybe maybe a net positive. 0:13:09.920 --> 0:13:13.000 We don't agree not but maybe yeah, they can't reproduce. 0:13:13.120 --> 0:13:15.079 They won't certainly let me ask. 0:13:14.920 --> 0:13:18.360 My robot Lincoln. Well, in my opinion for score. 0:13:21.360 --> 0:13:23.240 So much fun checking out with the stock market that 0:13:23.320 --> 0:13:25.680 went way down yesterday, down pretty decent today. 0:13:25.800 --> 0:13:27.480 What's it all about? Is the big question? 0:13:27.880 --> 0:13:34.840 Lots of other stuff talk about stay here, California're going 0:13:34.880 --> 0:13:38.040 to be the first state to with a billionaire's penalty 0:13:38.120 --> 0:13:39.960 at least that's going to be a prop that we 0:13:40.080 --> 0:13:40.800 vote on soon. 0:13:41.200 --> 0:13:42.560 Stay tuned for details on that. 0:13:43.760 --> 0:13:47.840 And speaking of big money, fourteen arrested in New Jersey 0:13:48.000 --> 0:13:51.880 yesterday on a new in a new sports betting scandal, 0:13:52.040 --> 0:13:56.840 so stay tuned for those details. They are literally flying 0:13:56.880 --> 0:14:01.679 off the shelves at the Armstrong You Getty superstore, the 0:14:01.800 --> 0:14:06.480 T shirt that is emblazoned in lovely fashion with ruin 0:14:06.600 --> 0:14:12.760 the Entire Country, Newsome twenty twenty eight. He laugh, I laughed, 0:14:14.000 --> 0:14:16.800 Or if you prefer your emphasis on entire ruin the 0:14:17.000 --> 0:14:20.440 Entire Country, Newsom, twenty twenty eight, people are loving them. 0:14:20.720 --> 0:14:22.600 Uh, And that's flying off the shelves. It's like one 0:14:22.640 --> 0:14:24.720 of the hottest items we've ever had in our store. 0:14:24.960 --> 0:14:26.280 What I loved, I can't. 0:14:26.360 --> 0:14:30.720 I can't wait to wear mine. I cannot wait. So this, 0:14:30.920 --> 0:14:32.760 I'm gonna be like a little kid with a Superman 0:14:33.320 --> 0:14:35.200 a costume. I'm gonna wear it to sleep, I'm gonna 0:14:35.200 --> 0:14:37.240 wear when I get up in the morning. I'm gonna 0:14:37.240 --> 0:14:38.680 cry when I have to take it off to take 0:14:38.720 --> 0:14:39.160 a shower. 0:14:40.240 --> 0:14:44.040 To Gavin Newsom's credit, which I rarely say, he actually 0:14:44.080 --> 0:14:51.800 opposes this new Union backed ballot measure aimed at billionaires. 0:14:52.880 --> 0:14:58.000 I think it's because he's running for president, although the 0:14:58.480 --> 0:15:02.880 Elizabeth Warren AOC Bernie Sanders wing might come after him 0:15:02.880 --> 0:15:05.240 for opposing this. But anyway, here's the idea behind it. 0:15:05.480 --> 0:15:09.920 This ballot initiative, proposed by healthcare workers unions, would take 0:15:10.000 --> 0:15:13.720 aim at the richest people in the richest state with 0:15:13.840 --> 0:15:18.040 a one time five percent tax on net worth over 0:15:18.080 --> 0:15:23.720 a billion dollars. This would mean pursuing assets like stocks, artwork, 0:15:23.960 --> 0:15:29.760 intellectual property in addition to income and everything else. It's 0:15:29.800 --> 0:15:32.880 just you are super rich. You're super rich to have 0:15:32.920 --> 0:15:34.760 a bunch of stuff, so we're going to take five percent. 0:15:34.560 --> 0:15:42.960 Of it intellectual property, so like a patent or the hell. 0:15:45.120 --> 0:15:50.760 It almost seems like it's designed to make whoever hasn't 0:15:50.560 --> 0:15:54.800 gone to Texas yet, like Elon Musk leave California to 0:15:54.800 --> 0:15:58.720 get Zuckerberg and is Altman already in Texas? Who all 0:15:58.760 --> 0:16:01.840 your big players Google whoever? To force them to leave 0:16:01.880 --> 0:16:02.280 the state. 0:16:03.240 --> 0:16:05.520 I think you would see a mass exodus of the 0:16:05.560 --> 0:16:06.480 biggest names in tech. 0:16:06.560 --> 0:16:09.440 Yeah, this proposal represents am reading from the Wall Street Journal, 0:16:09.640 --> 0:16:13.720 this proposal represents an unprecedented effort to tax modern wealth 0:16:15.200 --> 0:16:17.600 now they need eight turned to seventy five thousand signatures. 0:16:17.600 --> 0:16:20.440 But I've seen crazier things happen in the thirty years 0:16:20.480 --> 0:16:22.680 that I've been in California. I never thought we'd get 0:16:22.760 --> 0:16:26.280 driver's licenses for illegals. Was laughable in the beginning, then 0:16:26.320 --> 0:16:31.440 became just a thing. So maybe taxing billionaires for the 0:16:31.480 --> 0:16:34.800 fact that they've accumulated that much wealth and driving them 0:16:34.800 --> 0:16:36.480 out of the state will become a thing too. In 0:16:36.600 --> 0:16:40.080 terms of billionaires by state, California is way the leader. 0:16:40.800 --> 0:16:44.440 California has an estimated two hundred and fifty five billionaires, 0:16:44.880 --> 0:16:48.520 more than any other state and almost a quarter of 0:16:48.560 --> 0:16:52.360 the US total. Let's take their stuff, Let's take their money, 0:16:52.640 --> 0:16:56.640 because how dare they? How dare they right? 0:16:57.440 --> 0:16:59.920 How they dare they come up with something that everybody wants? 0:17:00.080 --> 0:17:01.080 We'll punish them for that. 0:17:01.760 --> 0:17:04.359 What a weird way to look at the world that, 0:17:05.040 --> 0:17:09.280 by definition, because they're billionaires, they deserve to give us 0:17:09.320 --> 0:17:12.240 more money, and they've probably done something wrong to get 0:17:12.240 --> 0:17:14.280 that money, because there's no way you become a billionaire 0:17:14.280 --> 0:17:14.880 playing chair. 0:17:15.760 --> 0:17:17.960 Yeah yeah, Well, if you see the entire world through 0:17:17.960 --> 0:17:20.800 the lens of victim and an oppressor, and everybody is 0:17:20.800 --> 0:17:22.480 one or the other. It's easy to figure out what 0:17:22.880 --> 0:17:26.040 a billionaire would be. By the way, this is a 0:17:26.080 --> 0:17:30.320 wasted breath, But a reasonable value added tax would take 0:17:30.320 --> 0:17:33.639 care of virtually every objection in the left, right, and 0:17:33.760 --> 0:17:39.800 center to the tax code where expenditures are taxed, period, 0:17:42.160 --> 0:17:44.280 because I know what they're driving at the wealthy. They 0:17:44.320 --> 0:17:46.800 borrow against the value of their stocks and they spend 0:17:46.840 --> 0:17:48.959 that money and they don't have to enlist it as income. 0:17:49.000 --> 0:17:51.440 Blah blah blah. Value add attacks would solve that. But again, 0:17:52.160 --> 0:17:55.560 wasted breath. It'll never happen because our tax code exists 0:17:55.960 --> 0:18:00.399 to a engineer society to some extent, and b handout 0:18:00.400 --> 0:18:01.360 favors to the powerful. 0:18:02.480 --> 0:18:05.480 Affordability is the word of the day, word of the week, 0:18:05.520 --> 0:18:07.240 word of the month, maybe the word of the next 0:18:07.240 --> 0:18:09.760 several years. We can talk about that among other things 0:18:09.800 --> 0:18:10.359 coming up. 0:18:12.440 --> 0:18:15.720 Armstrong and getty. Things are getting better. 0:18:16.520 --> 0:18:20.560 As a presidential signature reopened the government, the president's mind 0:18:20.800 --> 0:18:22.360 jumped to the midterms. 0:18:22.640 --> 0:18:25.000 When we come up to midterms and other things, don't 0:18:25.040 --> 0:18:26.040 forget what they've done. 0:18:25.920 --> 0:18:26.560 To our country. 0:18:26.680 --> 0:18:30.399 Vice President Vance is rolling out the latest messaging on affordability, 0:18:31.440 --> 0:18:36.080 tying high prices two high rates of illegal immigration. 0:18:36.560 --> 0:18:39.600 A lot of young people are saying housing is way 0:18:39.840 --> 0:18:40.840 too expensive. 0:18:41.200 --> 0:18:43.280 Why is that because we flooded the. 0:18:43.240 --> 0:18:47.520 Country with thirty million illegal immigrants who were taking houses 0:18:47.560 --> 0:18:49.680 that ought by right go to American citizens. 0:18:49.760 --> 0:18:50.000 Yeah. 0:18:50.000 --> 0:18:53.159 I think the tying illegal immigration to rents and housing 0:18:53.160 --> 0:18:54.680 prices is a bit of a stretch. And one of 0:18:54.720 --> 0:18:56.919 the reasons I think that is it's a brand new 0:18:57.040 --> 0:19:02.760 argument that just landed all of us sudden after getting 0:19:02.840 --> 0:19:06.240 killed in the elections last Tuesday around the issue of affordability, 0:19:06.240 --> 0:19:09.520 and everybody's talking about it, and it's such a clear 0:19:09.600 --> 0:19:11.920 win if you can make it seem like illegal immigration 0:19:12.000 --> 0:19:14.639 cause it well, that's something we're good at and it 0:19:14.680 --> 0:19:16.480 wasn't our fault. 0:19:17.119 --> 0:19:21.240 Well and as a couple of immigration hawks ourselves, it's 0:19:21.280 --> 0:19:23.880 not a non factor in housing. But to go there 0:19:24.000 --> 0:19:27.600 first is just silly. Certainly a brand new argument. Yeah, 0:19:27.640 --> 0:19:30.560 I don't remember ever saying that before. I've heard that 0:19:30.600 --> 0:19:33.280 in urban areas, you know, drives up the rents and 0:19:33.320 --> 0:19:36.240 that sort of thing. But yeah, to say that that's 0:19:36.280 --> 0:19:37.639 the number one reason is just silly. 0:19:37.720 --> 0:19:39.240 I just mean out of the Trump White House, I 0:19:39.240 --> 0:19:41.760 don't remember ever hearing them use that as the reason 0:19:41.880 --> 0:19:44.240 it seems like a brand new argument that they've rolled about, 0:19:44.800 --> 0:19:50.280 which is politically maybe clever. This whole concept of a 0:19:50.359 --> 0:19:53.879 national conversation. You hear this sometimes when people say we 0:19:53.920 --> 0:19:55.680 need to have a national conversation about we need to 0:19:55.720 --> 0:19:58.680 have a conversation in this country about race or whatever. 0:19:58.720 --> 0:20:01.520 It is quite understood what it is. But I guess 0:20:01.520 --> 0:20:02.000 it's just. 0:20:02.040 --> 0:20:07.800 The chattering going on in the air right or on 0:20:07.840 --> 0:20:11.439 your computer and articles here and there, and what podcasts 0:20:11.440 --> 0:20:13.960 are saying, and what radio talk show hosts like us 0:20:14.000 --> 0:20:16.280 are saying, and whatever people are saying. I guess that's 0:20:16.280 --> 0:20:20.760 what a national conversation is. And I think it's definitely 0:20:20.760 --> 0:20:22.320 a good thing. If we're going to have a national 0:20:22.320 --> 0:20:25.000 conversation about affordability, just all the way around and make 0:20:25.040 --> 0:20:27.000 that the number one topic. I think that's a damn 0:20:27.040 --> 0:20:31.600 good idea because things are really expensive, and I don't 0:20:31.600 --> 0:20:33.720 know what the prescription is for fixing this. I think 0:20:33.800 --> 0:20:38.760 acknowledging the fact that it's true, since whoever's in power 0:20:38.880 --> 0:20:42.760 has a great motivation to pretend it's not true. Joe 0:20:42.760 --> 0:20:45.920 Biden claiming that inflation, no, there is no inflation. Okay, 0:20:45.920 --> 0:20:48.280 there is, but it won't be here long are things 0:20:48.359 --> 0:20:49.680 are actually great out there? 0:20:49.720 --> 0:20:50.560 And when they weren't. 0:20:50.920 --> 0:20:53.639 And then Donald Trump the other day saying, you know, 0:20:53.680 --> 0:20:56.280 I'm not we have the best economy in the world 0:20:56.280 --> 0:20:59.359 and I'm not getting credit for it. Well, at least 0:20:59.359 --> 0:21:01.480 prior to yes, we were setting records every day on 0:21:01.520 --> 0:21:04.280 the stock market. But that doesn't make any difference when 0:21:04.280 --> 0:21:07.440 you go to the grocery store, you go to Denny's 0:21:07.480 --> 0:21:09.399 like I did last Saturday night with my kids, and 0:21:09.440 --> 0:21:11.800 it's sixty five dollars for us to eat at Denny's. 0:21:11.800 --> 0:21:13.280 I mean, what the hell we Oh? 0:21:13.359 --> 0:21:16.800 Yeah, affluent people are going around saying, my god, everything's 0:21:16.840 --> 0:21:20.200 so expensive in the base of the MAGA base, it's 0:21:20.359 --> 0:21:23.120 you know, maybe not panic might overstate. 0:21:22.680 --> 0:21:26.639 It, but it's not too many steps below panic. Yeah. 0:21:26.960 --> 0:21:34.480 So brought up insurance because somebody had mentioned in an email. 0:21:34.640 --> 0:21:37.439