1 00:00:01,880 --> 00:00:06,200 Speaker 1: Broadcasting live from the Abraham Lincoln Radio Studio, the George 2 00:00:06,240 --> 00:00:11,360 Speaker 1: Washington Broadcast Center, Jack Armstrong and Joe Ketty Armstrong and Jetty, 3 00:00:11,680 --> 00:00:17,320 Speaker 1: I know he Armstrong and Yetty. 4 00:00:24,239 --> 00:00:26,680 Speaker 2: The New York Times last week published a profile on 5 00:00:26,760 --> 00:00:29,960 Speaker 2: three people who were in romantic relationships with AI chatbots. 6 00:00:30,000 --> 00:00:30,680 Speaker 1: It's heartbreaking. 7 00:00:30,720 --> 00:00:33,000 Speaker 2: And I know I had a girlfriend in college who 8 00:00:33,080 --> 00:00:34,080 Speaker 2: left me for Jeeves. 9 00:00:38,720 --> 00:00:39,440 Speaker 1: That's my fault. 10 00:00:39,479 --> 00:00:41,400 Speaker 2: I remember one time I said, go ask someone else, 11 00:00:41,440 --> 00:00:42,040 Speaker 2: and that was it. 12 00:00:45,560 --> 00:00:48,479 Speaker 3: AI relationships. We talked a lot about that earlier in 13 00:00:48,479 --> 00:00:49,960 Speaker 3: the week. If you didn't catch that, that was really 14 00:00:50,000 --> 00:00:52,040 Speaker 3: I'd forgotten about that. Or was that last week whenever 15 00:00:52,080 --> 00:00:55,120 Speaker 3: we did The New York Times had the profile of 16 00:00:55,160 --> 00:00:57,320 Speaker 3: three different people that were in AI relationships. I guess 17 00:00:57,320 --> 00:00:59,040 Speaker 3: that was a week ago, last Friday. But that was 18 00:00:59,120 --> 00:01:01,720 Speaker 3: a lot of people brought that up to me. Troubling, 19 00:01:01,840 --> 00:01:06,600 Speaker 3: very troubly. Oh yeah, yeah, and I think that's just beginning. Yeah, 20 00:01:06,640 --> 00:01:08,920 Speaker 3: and speaking obviously, it's just beginning. 21 00:01:08,959 --> 00:01:10,959 Speaker 4: I think it will grow and grow and grow until 22 00:01:11,080 --> 00:01:12,959 Speaker 4: human beings are unrecognizable. 23 00:01:13,400 --> 00:01:16,560 Speaker 3: Yeah, speaking of that sort of thing, what is this Basically, 24 00:01:16,560 --> 00:01:17,720 Speaker 3: we're about to hear Michael. 25 00:01:18,600 --> 00:01:21,680 Speaker 5: What this is is there's a new app called two Way, 26 00:01:22,240 --> 00:01:25,960 Speaker 5: and then they basically take three minutes of video, let's say, 27 00:01:26,200 --> 00:01:28,199 Speaker 5: and then let me talk to my deceased loved ones. 28 00:01:28,200 --> 00:01:30,399 Speaker 5: So I could take my dad recently passed away, so 29 00:01:30,440 --> 00:01:33,119 Speaker 5: I could take three minutes of video, send it to him, 30 00:01:33,120 --> 00:01:35,399 Speaker 5: and then they would make an AI of him so. 31 00:01:35,360 --> 00:01:38,320 Speaker 1: I could talk to him an avatar on an avatar. 32 00:01:38,400 --> 00:01:43,200 Speaker 4: Yeah, you know, talking to you in their voice and 33 00:01:43,240 --> 00:01:44,640 Speaker 4: the facial expressions and all of it. 34 00:01:44,720 --> 00:01:49,120 Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, this is an example of that. He's getting bigger. 35 00:01:49,840 --> 00:01:54,160 Speaker 1: See oh my wonderful, kicking like crazy. 36 00:01:54,560 --> 00:01:55,360 Speaker 5: He's listening. 37 00:01:55,760 --> 00:01:58,920 Speaker 1: Put your hand on your tummy and hum damn. You 38 00:01:59,200 --> 00:02:03,040 Speaker 1: still love to say him. Hey, Charlie, I was school today. 39 00:02:03,120 --> 00:02:04,280 Speaker 2: It was really fun Loo. 40 00:02:04,320 --> 00:02:05,520 Speaker 1: Who's going to be a great grandmother? 41 00:02:05,640 --> 00:02:09,240 Speaker 4: Oh, Charlie, congratulation. 42 00:02:09,520 --> 00:02:11,520 Speaker 1: She says that he's been kicking a lot though. Tell 43 00:02:11,560 --> 00:02:14,960 Speaker 1: her to put her hand on her tommy and hummed him. 44 00:02:15,160 --> 00:02:17,880 Speaker 1: You already said that, Robot, you would have loved this moment. 45 00:02:18,280 --> 00:02:19,760 Speaker 3: You can call any time. 46 00:02:20,240 --> 00:02:23,840 Speaker 1: Thanks Robot. Grannie. Wow, you know it's funny. 47 00:02:24,080 --> 00:02:27,679 Speaker 4: I was reading about this and thinking, you know, that's 48 00:02:27,720 --> 00:02:31,399 Speaker 4: a little odd when I heard Grannie, Oh, that's. 49 00:02:31,360 --> 00:02:33,880 Speaker 1: Wonderful Charlie had creep the hell out of me. 50 00:02:38,400 --> 00:02:43,200 Speaker 4: In twenty twenty, Kanye gave Kim Kardashian a hologram message 51 00:02:43,240 --> 00:02:46,440 Speaker 4: of her late father for her birthday. So if it's 52 00:02:46,440 --> 00:02:48,359 Speaker 4: good enough for Kanye, So. 53 00:02:48,320 --> 00:02:51,880 Speaker 3: I'm trying to think of this in real life. Would 54 00:02:51,880 --> 00:03:00,360 Speaker 3: I get any pleasure slash enjoyment out of you know, 55 00:03:01,960 --> 00:03:04,240 Speaker 3: my parents are alive, but let's assume one of them 56 00:03:04,360 --> 00:03:09,080 Speaker 3: is passed and they didn't get to meet my kids. 57 00:03:09,800 --> 00:03:13,080 Speaker 3: Would I have gotten any enjoyment out of having a 58 00:03:13,160 --> 00:03:16,280 Speaker 3: fake video that looked and sounded like my dad saying, 59 00:03:16,600 --> 00:03:18,320 Speaker 3: you know, here's the should go out and play catch 60 00:03:18,360 --> 00:03:20,280 Speaker 3: with him and stuff like that. Would that just make 61 00:03:20,320 --> 00:03:24,880 Speaker 3: me incredibly Henry? How's school going? Yeah, before I even 62 00:03:24,919 --> 00:03:27,640 Speaker 3: introduce Henry to him? Just talking about myself? Would that 63 00:03:27,720 --> 00:03:30,239 Speaker 3: make me happy and fill me with like my dad's 64 00:03:30,240 --> 00:03:31,959 Speaker 3: getting to meet my son. I wish he were here, 65 00:03:32,080 --> 00:03:37,280 Speaker 3: or just make me unbearably sad, like really diving into 66 00:03:37,360 --> 00:03:40,000 Speaker 3: the fact that he's not here. I just I don't 67 00:03:40,040 --> 00:03:42,120 Speaker 3: feel like it would give me comforter or make me 68 00:03:42,240 --> 00:03:43,360 Speaker 3: happier in any way. 69 00:03:44,440 --> 00:03:47,600 Speaker 4: Maybe it's genetic or something, but I have the same reaction. 70 00:03:47,640 --> 00:03:50,400 Speaker 4: I would have to quote unquote a quote unquote AI 71 00:03:50,680 --> 00:03:54,400 Speaker 4: girlfriend slash lover. I'd think, Wow, this is a weird 72 00:03:54,880 --> 00:03:57,960 Speaker 4: simulacrum of real life and it's making me uncomfortable. 73 00:03:58,000 --> 00:04:00,200 Speaker 3: And that's just for me because I assume that that's 74 00:04:00,200 --> 00:04:03,000 Speaker 3: what was going on there with the pregnant woman. Grandma's 75 00:04:03,080 --> 00:04:05,600 Speaker 3: not around, So now grandma is getting to talk to 76 00:04:05,640 --> 00:04:08,480 Speaker 3: you about your pregnancy and can you feel the baby cake. 77 00:04:08,360 --> 00:04:10,520 Speaker 1: And stuff like that? Does that make you feel good? 78 00:04:11,160 --> 00:04:13,960 Speaker 3: I mean, who's this for? It's not for grandma. Grandma's 79 00:04:14,000 --> 00:04:17,560 Speaker 3: dead and they ain't Grandma talking, So is this for you? 80 00:04:17,640 --> 00:04:19,440 Speaker 3: And do you feel like you've got a connection with 81 00:04:19,480 --> 00:04:20,120 Speaker 3: your grandma now. 82 00:04:20,080 --> 00:04:22,320 Speaker 1: Or does that just make you extra sad that she's 83 00:04:22,360 --> 00:04:22,960 Speaker 1: not around. 84 00:04:23,640 --> 00:04:23,960 Speaker 4: I don't. 85 00:04:23,960 --> 00:04:27,840 Speaker 3: I don't get that at all. Who's enjoying this in 86 00:04:27,839 --> 00:04:28,480 Speaker 3: this scenario? 87 00:04:28,600 --> 00:04:31,279 Speaker 1: Katie? Do you understand maybe I'm missing. 88 00:04:30,320 --> 00:04:34,000 Speaker 6: Saying I hate this, but I also feel like it's 89 00:04:34,040 --> 00:04:36,719 Speaker 6: stripping away a part of life, Like I learned a 90 00:04:36,720 --> 00:04:39,599 Speaker 6: lot of lessons when my grandparents passed away, and you 91 00:04:39,640 --> 00:04:41,600 Speaker 6: know that whole you know, we lose people and it's 92 00:04:41,680 --> 00:04:44,760 Speaker 6: kind of making that blurry. 93 00:04:44,960 --> 00:04:47,960 Speaker 4: Wow, that's a great insight. It is removing one of 94 00:04:48,000 --> 00:04:50,720 Speaker 4: the basic rhythms of life. It's like when Rudolph the 95 00:04:50,760 --> 00:04:54,200 Speaker 4: Red Nose Reindeer became available year round. It's just you're 96 00:04:54,240 --> 00:04:56,960 Speaker 4: blowing up the rhythms that make life worth living. 97 00:04:57,000 --> 00:04:58,400 Speaker 1: Now, that's for the adults. 98 00:04:58,440 --> 00:05:01,040 Speaker 3: That's like for me to have my dad, if he 99 00:05:01,120 --> 00:05:03,039 Speaker 3: were dead, come back and talk to me about my son. 100 00:05:03,080 --> 00:05:06,120 Speaker 3: I just think that would make me sadder rather than comforted. 101 00:05:06,440 --> 00:05:09,680 Speaker 3: Now to the kid, that makes you they should take 102 00:05:09,720 --> 00:05:12,640 Speaker 3: your kids away from you. If you're gonna have fake 103 00:05:12,760 --> 00:05:15,440 Speaker 3: grandma talk to your little kid who doesn't have the 104 00:05:15,480 --> 00:05:18,360 Speaker 3: ability to really understand what the hell is going on here, 105 00:05:19,880 --> 00:05:22,960 Speaker 3: that this segment brought to you by Two Way, that 106 00:05:23,120 --> 00:05:27,200 Speaker 3: is that is horrible having your little kid here talk 107 00:05:27,279 --> 00:05:28,160 Speaker 3: to fake grandma. 108 00:05:28,200 --> 00:05:29,720 Speaker 1: Are you gonna pretend she's alive? 109 00:05:30,279 --> 00:05:32,120 Speaker 3: Or are you gonna try to convince that talking to 110 00:05:32,240 --> 00:05:33,560 Speaker 3: robot people is a thing? 111 00:05:33,920 --> 00:05:36,599 Speaker 1: What are you doing? I know, I know. 112 00:05:36,880 --> 00:05:40,839 Speaker 4: So they put this video online, try the two Way 113 00:05:40,880 --> 00:05:44,640 Speaker 4: beta on the app Store, Android coming soon, and immediately 114 00:05:44,640 --> 00:05:48,560 Speaker 4: people drew comparisons to an unsettling twenty thirteen episode of 115 00:05:48,600 --> 00:05:51,800 Speaker 4: Black Mirror entitled be Right Back, in which a grieving 116 00:05:51,800 --> 00:05:55,120 Speaker 4: woman uses an AI replica for dead partner. Social media 117 00:05:55,200 --> 00:05:59,040 Speaker 4: users did not hold back. Many call the videos nightmare 118 00:05:59,080 --> 00:06:03,520 Speaker 4: fuel monic, and some claim the technology should be destroyed. 119 00:06:06,240 --> 00:06:07,120 Speaker 1: Nightmare fuel. 120 00:06:07,480 --> 00:06:12,200 Speaker 4: Yeah the whole hey son, talk to phone app Grandma. 121 00:06:12,600 --> 00:06:15,960 Speaker 4: She wants to hear about your big math test. Yeah, 122 00:06:16,000 --> 00:06:17,640 Speaker 4: you really ought to have your kids taken away? 123 00:06:17,760 --> 00:06:20,360 Speaker 1: Yes, So most of the stuff is presented to us. 124 00:06:22,880 --> 00:06:25,880 Speaker 3: You think, well, if that worked, I could conceive of 125 00:06:25,920 --> 00:06:28,680 Speaker 3: wanting that, Like the robot we were talking about last 126 00:06:28,720 --> 00:06:32,240 Speaker 3: Hour Hour one, the Tesla robot. If it can mold 127 00:06:32,240 --> 00:06:35,320 Speaker 3: the lawn, fold the laundry, I don't know, rake the leaves. 128 00:06:36,760 --> 00:06:39,280 Speaker 3: You could see how that possibly might be something you want. 129 00:06:39,800 --> 00:06:44,400 Speaker 3: In this one, are are most people reacting to, Oh 130 00:06:44,440 --> 00:06:48,640 Speaker 3: that sounds great? How soon can I get fake dead 131 00:06:48,680 --> 00:06:51,440 Speaker 3: relatives talking to me? Or is everybody reacting like us? 132 00:06:51,640 --> 00:06:54,839 Speaker 3: One that would make me sad or not happier. And two, 133 00:06:54,839 --> 00:06:57,120 Speaker 3: I'm not introducing it to my kids because it's gonna 134 00:06:57,120 --> 00:06:58,560 Speaker 3: twist their little minds. 135 00:06:58,960 --> 00:07:01,960 Speaker 4: All right, just you're failing to see the future. I'm 136 00:07:01,960 --> 00:07:05,200 Speaker 4: combining both concepts. I've got you. Look out in your 137 00:07:05,200 --> 00:07:09,160 Speaker 4: front yard and there's your old dead grandpa raking leaves 138 00:07:09,520 --> 00:07:11,720 Speaker 4: a perfect replica ropot of him. 139 00:07:12,680 --> 00:07:17,600 Speaker 3: Huh huh killing two birds with one stone. Yes, so 140 00:07:18,120 --> 00:07:20,400 Speaker 3: we could bring Grandpa back to life. What we do 141 00:07:20,520 --> 00:07:24,160 Speaker 3: is have him do manual labor around the house to 142 00:07:24,240 --> 00:07:29,720 Speaker 3: free us up to do other things, both heartwarming and practical. 143 00:07:30,280 --> 00:07:32,040 Speaker 1: It's the new Getti bot. Boy. 144 00:07:32,080 --> 00:07:33,960 Speaker 3: If I could bring my dad back, I'd have him 145 00:07:34,000 --> 00:07:35,960 Speaker 3: right belong so I could watch his football game. 146 00:07:37,680 --> 00:07:42,360 Speaker 1: Sounds like a great alpda help around the house. This 147 00:07:42,520 --> 00:07:44,920 Speaker 1: is so clearly the final chapter of you man. 148 00:07:45,000 --> 00:07:47,520 Speaker 3: Oh if my mom we're just here today, she could 149 00:07:48,240 --> 00:07:49,840 Speaker 3: so much so I could go out to the bar. 150 00:07:52,120 --> 00:07:58,200 Speaker 1: Oh my god, Oh Laura, all right, we need to stop. Wow, 151 00:07:58,560 --> 00:08:00,480 Speaker 1: that's what I want. An odd thing. 152 00:08:01,880 --> 00:08:04,240 Speaker 3: Do they think they're presenting? And maybe I'm wrong? Maybe 153 00:08:04,240 --> 00:08:07,960 Speaker 3: I'm an outlier. I'm often an outlier on things. Are 154 00:08:07,960 --> 00:08:10,320 Speaker 3: they presenting this to people and people are saying, Oh, 155 00:08:10,320 --> 00:08:14,360 Speaker 3: they'd be so fantastic that my son, who never got 156 00:08:14,400 --> 00:08:18,440 Speaker 3: to meet my dad grandpa, could have an interaction with him. 157 00:08:18,440 --> 00:08:20,200 Speaker 1: Are people doing that feeling? 158 00:08:20,280 --> 00:08:24,040 Speaker 4: No, No, that the interactive part is the bizarre and 159 00:08:24,440 --> 00:08:29,680 Speaker 4: demonic part. To me, excuse me, if you could I mean, 160 00:08:29,760 --> 00:08:32,200 Speaker 4: if you could have like a super realistic based on 161 00:08:32,240 --> 00:08:34,440 Speaker 4: their actual voice from videos, that sort of thing, because 162 00:08:34,440 --> 00:08:37,679 Speaker 4: that's what this does. Like my mom, who I missed 163 00:08:37,760 --> 00:08:42,560 Speaker 4: very much, if I could have her this is coming 164 00:08:42,559 --> 00:08:47,360 Speaker 4: together in my mind in real time, either saying things 165 00:08:47,360 --> 00:08:50,959 Speaker 4: that she frequently said or said in the video in 166 00:08:51,000 --> 00:08:56,360 Speaker 4: a rapidly accessible form. I suppose I could put a 167 00:08:56,440 --> 00:08:59,080 Speaker 4: video clip on my phone. I mean, just like to 168 00:08:59,120 --> 00:09:01,640 Speaker 4: have my mom with my mom's voice saying what she 169 00:09:01,840 --> 00:09:05,520 Speaker 4: used to say that I could see, instead of just 170 00:09:05,559 --> 00:09:08,560 Speaker 4: to still photograph in a readily accessible form. That would 171 00:09:08,559 --> 00:09:10,400 Speaker 4: be kind of nice, But no, I don't want it 172 00:09:10,520 --> 00:09:12,680 Speaker 4: pretending to wonder how my day went. 173 00:09:16,520 --> 00:09:18,960 Speaker 1: Yeah, this is an extreme Well, I don't know. 174 00:09:19,040 --> 00:09:22,600 Speaker 3: I didn't think that people would get into relationships with chatbots, 175 00:09:22,880 --> 00:09:25,240 Speaker 3: and a lot more people are doing it than I realized. 176 00:09:25,240 --> 00:09:28,440 Speaker 3: So maybe that crowd would be happier in heck to 177 00:09:28,480 --> 00:09:33,839 Speaker 3: have fake grandma pretending to care about near unborn child. 178 00:09:34,480 --> 00:09:38,920 Speaker 4: Okay, so I'm there at the two Way brain Trust 179 00:09:39,000 --> 00:09:41,839 Speaker 4: meeting and our zombie Gramma thing just didn't sell. 180 00:09:42,160 --> 00:09:44,240 Speaker 1: Here's my next concept. 181 00:09:44,800 --> 00:09:51,320 Speaker 4: Historical figures carefully crafted based on all their writing and speaking, 182 00:09:51,440 --> 00:09:57,000 Speaker 4: everything that's known about them, how their voice was described contemporaneously, 183 00:09:58,679 --> 00:10:03,080 Speaker 4: Washington would probably have a fairly regal British accent, somewhat 184 00:10:03,120 --> 00:10:05,160 Speaker 4: softened to buy his time here in the colonies, that 185 00:10:05,200 --> 00:10:07,560 Speaker 4: sort of thing. Talk to Abe Lincoln. That would be 186 00:10:07,600 --> 00:10:08,640 Speaker 4: interesting that. 187 00:10:08,679 --> 00:10:09,080 Speaker 1: I would do. 188 00:10:09,200 --> 00:10:11,839 Speaker 3: That is very very cool, But that's a completely different thing. 189 00:10:11,920 --> 00:10:12,640 Speaker 1: Then agreed. 190 00:10:12,880 --> 00:10:16,240 Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, Look, we poured all this money into a 191 00:10:16,320 --> 00:10:18,520 Speaker 4: zombie Grandma go. We gotta come up with something to 192 00:10:18,520 --> 00:10:22,240 Speaker 4: make some profits. So I'm going with the uh living Lincoln. 193 00:10:22,320 --> 00:10:23,080 Speaker 4: We're gonna call it. 194 00:10:23,400 --> 00:10:23,640 Speaker 1: Man. 195 00:10:23,679 --> 00:10:25,960 Speaker 3: I wish my grandma was still alive so she could 196 00:10:25,960 --> 00:10:27,920 Speaker 3: watch the kids so I can go to this concert tonight. 197 00:10:31,280 --> 00:10:33,360 Speaker 1: Wait, now you can. 198 00:10:35,640 --> 00:10:40,240 Speaker 4: Speaking of technology, you know what spikes faster than pumpkin 199 00:10:40,360 --> 00:10:45,320 Speaker 4: spice lattes this time of year. Cybercrime hackers love the holidays, 200 00:10:45,360 --> 00:10:48,600 Speaker 4: This is true. 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Used to just be letters, was email, 225 00:12:00,679 --> 00:12:03,880 Speaker 3: now email and text and now social media reinteraction with 226 00:12:03,960 --> 00:12:09,480 Speaker 3: the show, there are way more crazy people than you 227 00:12:09,600 --> 00:12:12,120 Speaker 3: ever thought because you don't run into them out there 228 00:12:12,160 --> 00:12:17,400 Speaker 3: in the real world. So and or irrational. Yeah, crazy, 229 00:12:17,440 --> 00:12:20,719 Speaker 3: I'm using a very vague vert. Crazy people that are 230 00:12:20,760 --> 00:12:23,439 Speaker 3: way different than you are. Like, way different than you are. 231 00:12:23,520 --> 00:12:25,240 Speaker 3: There's a lot more of them than you think, and 232 00:12:25,280 --> 00:12:29,040 Speaker 3: so I need to keep that in mind. With the 233 00:12:29,080 --> 00:12:31,840 Speaker 3: percentage of people that might fall in love with chatbots 234 00:12:32,200 --> 00:12:34,760 Speaker 3: or want ai grandma to talk to their kid or 235 00:12:34,800 --> 00:12:38,920 Speaker 3: give them comforting advice or about life or whatever. It 236 00:12:39,040 --> 00:12:42,080 Speaker 3: might be way more of them than I think, way more. 237 00:12:42,600 --> 00:12:45,120 Speaker 3: And what percentage would you need to have before it 238 00:12:45,200 --> 00:12:47,800 Speaker 3: kind of up in society? If five percent of society 239 00:12:47,840 --> 00:12:54,560 Speaker 3: is doing only on robot grandma's and robot relationships, what 240 00:12:54,600 --> 00:12:56,280 Speaker 3: does that do to things? I don't know? 241 00:12:57,080 --> 00:13:01,760 Speaker 1: Is this some sort of Darwinian thinning of the herd? Wow? 242 00:13:02,000 --> 00:13:04,480 Speaker 4: I say most people are not going to reproduce? Just 243 00:13:04,520 --> 00:13:05,280 Speaker 4: clicked in my head. 244 00:13:05,400 --> 00:13:08,720 Speaker 3: Yeah that's an interesting thought and maybe maybe a net positive. 245 00:13:09,920 --> 00:13:13,000 Speaker 3: We don't agree not but maybe yeah, they can't reproduce. 246 00:13:13,120 --> 00:13:15,079 Speaker 3: They won't certainly let me ask. 247 00:13:14,920 --> 00:13:18,360 Speaker 1: My robot Lincoln. Well, in my opinion for score. 248 00:13:21,360 --> 00:13:23,240 Speaker 3: So much fun checking out with the stock market that 249 00:13:23,320 --> 00:13:25,680 Speaker 3: went way down yesterday, down pretty decent today. 250 00:13:25,800 --> 00:13:27,480 Speaker 1: What's it all about? Is the big question? 251 00:13:27,880 --> 00:13:34,840 Speaker 3: Lots of other stuff talk about stay here, California're going 252 00:13:34,880 --> 00:13:38,040 Speaker 3: to be the first state to with a billionaire's penalty 253 00:13:38,120 --> 00:13:39,960 Speaker 3: at least that's going to be a prop that we 254 00:13:40,080 --> 00:13:40,800 Speaker 3: vote on soon. 255 00:13:41,200 --> 00:13:42,560 Speaker 1: Stay tuned for details on that. 256 00:13:43,760 --> 00:13:47,840 Speaker 4: And speaking of big money, fourteen arrested in New Jersey 257 00:13:48,000 --> 00:13:51,880 Speaker 4: yesterday on a new in a new sports betting scandal, 258 00:13:52,040 --> 00:13:56,840 Speaker 4: so stay tuned for those details. They are literally flying 259 00:13:56,880 --> 00:14:01,679 Speaker 4: off the shelves at the Armstrong You Getty superstore, the 260 00:14:01,800 --> 00:14:06,480 Speaker 4: T shirt that is emblazoned in lovely fashion with ruin 261 00:14:06,600 --> 00:14:12,760 Speaker 4: the Entire Country, Newsome twenty twenty eight. He laugh, I laughed, 262 00:14:14,000 --> 00:14:16,800 Speaker 4: Or if you prefer your emphasis on entire ruin the 263 00:14:17,000 --> 00:14:20,440 Speaker 4: Entire Country, Newsom, twenty twenty eight, people are loving them. 264 00:14:20,720 --> 00:14:22,600 Speaker 3: Uh, And that's flying off the shelves. It's like one 265 00:14:22,640 --> 00:14:24,720 Speaker 3: of the hottest items we've ever had in our store. 266 00:14:24,960 --> 00:14:26,280 Speaker 1: What I loved, I can't. 267 00:14:26,360 --> 00:14:30,720 Speaker 4: I can't wait to wear mine. I cannot wait. So this, 268 00:14:30,920 --> 00:14:32,760 Speaker 4: I'm gonna be like a little kid with a Superman 269 00:14:33,320 --> 00:14:35,200 Speaker 4: a costume. I'm gonna wear it to sleep, I'm gonna 270 00:14:35,200 --> 00:14:37,240 Speaker 4: wear when I get up in the morning. I'm gonna 271 00:14:37,240 --> 00:14:38,680 Speaker 4: cry when I have to take it off to take 272 00:14:38,720 --> 00:14:39,160 Speaker 4: a shower. 273 00:14:40,240 --> 00:14:44,040 Speaker 3: To Gavin Newsom's credit, which I rarely say, he actually 274 00:14:44,080 --> 00:14:51,800 Speaker 3: opposes this new Union backed ballot measure aimed at billionaires. 275 00:14:52,880 --> 00:14:58,000 Speaker 3: I think it's because he's running for president, although the 276 00:14:58,480 --> 00:15:02,880 Speaker 3: Elizabeth Warren AOC Bernie Sanders wing might come after him 277 00:15:02,880 --> 00:15:05,240 Speaker 3: for opposing this. But anyway, here's the idea behind it. 278 00:15:05,480 --> 00:15:09,920 Speaker 3: This ballot initiative, proposed by healthcare workers unions, would take 279 00:15:10,000 --> 00:15:13,720 Speaker 3: aim at the richest people in the richest state with 280 00:15:13,840 --> 00:15:18,040 Speaker 3: a one time five percent tax on net worth over 281 00:15:18,080 --> 00:15:23,720 Speaker 3: a billion dollars. This would mean pursuing assets like stocks, artwork, 282 00:15:23,960 --> 00:15:29,760 Speaker 3: intellectual property in addition to income and everything else. It's 283 00:15:29,800 --> 00:15:32,880 Speaker 3: just you are super rich. You're super rich to have 284 00:15:32,920 --> 00:15:34,760 Speaker 3: a bunch of stuff, so we're going to take five percent. 285 00:15:34,560 --> 00:15:42,960 Speaker 1: Of it intellectual property, so like a patent or the hell. 286 00:15:45,120 --> 00:15:50,760 Speaker 3: It almost seems like it's designed to make whoever hasn't 287 00:15:50,560 --> 00:15:54,800 Speaker 3: gone to Texas yet, like Elon Musk leave California to 288 00:15:54,800 --> 00:15:58,720 Speaker 3: get Zuckerberg and is Altman already in Texas? Who all 289 00:15:58,760 --> 00:16:01,840 Speaker 3: your big players Google whoever? To force them to leave 290 00:16:01,880 --> 00:16:02,280 Speaker 3: the state. 291 00:16:03,240 --> 00:16:05,520 Speaker 4: I think you would see a mass exodus of the 292 00:16:05,560 --> 00:16:06,480 Speaker 4: biggest names in tech. 293 00:16:06,560 --> 00:16:09,440 Speaker 3: Yeah, this proposal represents am reading from the Wall Street Journal, 294 00:16:09,640 --> 00:16:13,720 Speaker 3: this proposal represents an unprecedented effort to tax modern wealth 295 00:16:15,200 --> 00:16:17,600 Speaker 3: now they need eight turned to seventy five thousand signatures. 296 00:16:17,600 --> 00:16:20,440 Speaker 3: But I've seen crazier things happen in the thirty years 297 00:16:20,480 --> 00:16:22,680 Speaker 3: that I've been in California. I never thought we'd get 298 00:16:22,760 --> 00:16:26,280 Speaker 3: driver's licenses for illegals. Was laughable in the beginning, then 299 00:16:26,320 --> 00:16:31,440 Speaker 3: became just a thing. So maybe taxing billionaires for the 300 00:16:31,480 --> 00:16:34,800 Speaker 3: fact that they've accumulated that much wealth and driving them 301 00:16:34,800 --> 00:16:36,480 Speaker 3: out of the state will become a thing too. In 302 00:16:36,600 --> 00:16:40,080 Speaker 3: terms of billionaires by state, California is way the leader. 303 00:16:40,800 --> 00:16:44,440 Speaker 3: California has an estimated two hundred and fifty five billionaires, 304 00:16:44,880 --> 00:16:48,520 Speaker 3: more than any other state and almost a quarter of 305 00:16:48,560 --> 00:16:52,360 Speaker 3: the US total. Let's take their stuff, Let's take their money, 306 00:16:52,640 --> 00:16:56,640 Speaker 3: because how dare they? How dare they right? 307 00:16:57,440 --> 00:16:59,920 Speaker 4: How they dare they come up with something that everybody wants? 308 00:17:00,080 --> 00:17:01,080 Speaker 4: We'll punish them for that. 309 00:17:01,760 --> 00:17:04,359 Speaker 3: What a weird way to look at the world that, 310 00:17:05,040 --> 00:17:09,280 Speaker 3: by definition, because they're billionaires, they deserve to give us 311 00:17:09,320 --> 00:17:12,240 Speaker 3: more money, and they've probably done something wrong to get 312 00:17:12,240 --> 00:17:14,280 Speaker 3: that money, because there's no way you become a billionaire 313 00:17:14,280 --> 00:17:14,880 Speaker 3: playing chair. 314 00:17:15,760 --> 00:17:17,960 Speaker 4: Yeah yeah, Well, if you see the entire world through 315 00:17:17,960 --> 00:17:20,800 Speaker 4: the lens of victim and an oppressor, and everybody is 316 00:17:20,800 --> 00:17:22,480 Speaker 4: one or the other. It's easy to figure out what 317 00:17:22,880 --> 00:17:26,040 Speaker 4: a billionaire would be. By the way, this is a 318 00:17:26,080 --> 00:17:30,320 Speaker 4: wasted breath, But a reasonable value added tax would take 319 00:17:30,320 --> 00:17:33,639 Speaker 4: care of virtually every objection in the left, right, and 320 00:17:33,760 --> 00:17:39,800 Speaker 4: center to the tax code where expenditures are taxed, period, 321 00:17:42,160 --> 00:17:44,280 Speaker 4: because I know what they're driving at the wealthy. They 322 00:17:44,320 --> 00:17:46,800 Speaker 4: borrow against the value of their stocks and they spend 323 00:17:46,840 --> 00:17:48,959 Speaker 4: that money and they don't have to enlist it as income. 324 00:17:49,000 --> 00:17:51,440 Speaker 4: Blah blah blah. Value add attacks would solve that. But again, 325 00:17:52,160 --> 00:17:55,560 Speaker 4: wasted breath. It'll never happen because our tax code exists 326 00:17:55,960 --> 00:18:00,399 Speaker 4: to a engineer society to some extent, and b handout 327 00:18:00,400 --> 00:18:01,360 Speaker 4: favors to the powerful. 328 00:18:02,480 --> 00:18:05,480 Speaker 3: Affordability is the word of the day, word of the week, 329 00:18:05,520 --> 00:18:07,240 Speaker 3: word of the month, maybe the word of the next 330 00:18:07,240 --> 00:18:09,760 Speaker 3: several years. We can talk about that among other things 331 00:18:09,800 --> 00:18:10,359 Speaker 3: coming up. 332 00:18:12,440 --> 00:18:15,720 Speaker 1: Armstrong and getty. Things are getting better. 333 00:18:16,520 --> 00:18:20,560 Speaker 7: As a presidential signature reopened the government, the president's mind 334 00:18:20,800 --> 00:18:22,360 Speaker 7: jumped to the midterms. 335 00:18:22,640 --> 00:18:25,000 Speaker 8: When we come up to midterms and other things, don't 336 00:18:25,040 --> 00:18:26,040 Speaker 8: forget what they've done. 337 00:18:25,920 --> 00:18:26,560 Speaker 1: To our country. 338 00:18:26,680 --> 00:18:30,399 Speaker 7: Vice President Vance is rolling out the latest messaging on affordability, 339 00:18:31,440 --> 00:18:36,080 Speaker 7: tying high prices two high rates of illegal immigration. 340 00:18:36,560 --> 00:18:39,600 Speaker 9: A lot of young people are saying housing is way 341 00:18:39,840 --> 00:18:40,840 Speaker 9: too expensive. 342 00:18:41,200 --> 00:18:43,280 Speaker 1: Why is that because we flooded the. 343 00:18:43,240 --> 00:18:47,520 Speaker 9: Country with thirty million illegal immigrants who were taking houses 344 00:18:47,560 --> 00:18:49,680 Speaker 9: that ought by right go to American citizens. 345 00:18:49,760 --> 00:18:50,000 Speaker 1: Yeah. 346 00:18:50,000 --> 00:18:53,159 Speaker 3: I think the tying illegal immigration to rents and housing 347 00:18:53,160 --> 00:18:54,680 Speaker 3: prices is a bit of a stretch. And one of 348 00:18:54,720 --> 00:18:56,919 Speaker 3: the reasons I think that is it's a brand new 349 00:18:57,040 --> 00:19:02,760 Speaker 3: argument that just landed all of us sudden after getting 350 00:19:02,840 --> 00:19:06,240 Speaker 3: killed in the elections last Tuesday around the issue of affordability, 351 00:19:06,240 --> 00:19:09,520 Speaker 3: and everybody's talking about it, and it's such a clear 352 00:19:09,600 --> 00:19:11,920 Speaker 3: win if you can make it seem like illegal immigration 353 00:19:12,000 --> 00:19:14,639 Speaker 3: cause it well, that's something we're good at and it 354 00:19:14,680 --> 00:19:16,480 Speaker 3: wasn't our fault. 355 00:19:17,119 --> 00:19:21,240 Speaker 4: Well and as a couple of immigration hawks ourselves, it's 356 00:19:21,280 --> 00:19:23,880 Speaker 4: not a non factor in housing. But to go there 357 00:19:24,000 --> 00:19:27,600 Speaker 4: first is just silly. Certainly a brand new argument. Yeah, 358 00:19:27,640 --> 00:19:30,560 Speaker 4: I don't remember ever saying that before. I've heard that 359 00:19:30,600 --> 00:19:33,280 Speaker 4: in urban areas, you know, drives up the rents and 360 00:19:33,320 --> 00:19:36,240 Speaker 4: that sort of thing. But yeah, to say that that's 361 00:19:36,280 --> 00:19:37,639 Speaker 4: the number one reason is just silly. 362 00:19:37,720 --> 00:19:39,240 Speaker 3: I just mean out of the Trump White House, I 363 00:19:39,240 --> 00:19:41,760 Speaker 3: don't remember ever hearing them use that as the reason 364 00:19:41,880 --> 00:19:44,240 Speaker 3: it seems like a brand new argument that they've rolled about, 365 00:19:44,800 --> 00:19:50,280 Speaker 3: which is politically maybe clever. This whole concept of a 366 00:19:50,359 --> 00:19:53,879 Speaker 3: national conversation. You hear this sometimes when people say we 367 00:19:53,920 --> 00:19:55,680 Speaker 3: need to have a national conversation about we need to 368 00:19:55,720 --> 00:19:58,680 Speaker 3: have a conversation in this country about race or whatever. 369 00:19:58,720 --> 00:20:01,520 Speaker 1: It is quite understood what it is. But I guess 370 00:20:01,520 --> 00:20:02,000 Speaker 1: it's just. 371 00:20:02,040 --> 00:20:07,800 Speaker 3: The chattering going on in the air right or on 372 00:20:07,840 --> 00:20:11,439 Speaker 3: your computer and articles here and there, and what podcasts 373 00:20:11,440 --> 00:20:13,960 Speaker 3: are saying, and what radio talk show hosts like us 374 00:20:14,000 --> 00:20:16,280 Speaker 3: are saying, and whatever people are saying. I guess that's 375 00:20:16,280 --> 00:20:20,760 Speaker 3: what a national conversation is. And I think it's definitely 376 00:20:20,760 --> 00:20:22,320 Speaker 3: a good thing. If we're going to have a national 377 00:20:22,320 --> 00:20:25,000 Speaker 3: conversation about affordability, just all the way around and make 378 00:20:25,040 --> 00:20:27,000 Speaker 3: that the number one topic. I think that's a damn 379 00:20:27,040 --> 00:20:31,600 Speaker 3: good idea because things are really expensive, and I don't 380 00:20:31,600 --> 00:20:33,720 Speaker 3: know what the prescription is for fixing this. I think 381 00:20:33,800 --> 00:20:38,760 Speaker 3: acknowledging the fact that it's true, since whoever's in power 382 00:20:38,880 --> 00:20:42,760 Speaker 3: has a great motivation to pretend it's not true. Joe 383 00:20:42,760 --> 00:20:45,920 Speaker 3: Biden claiming that inflation, no, there is no inflation. Okay, 384 00:20:45,920 --> 00:20:48,280 Speaker 3: there is, but it won't be here long are things 385 00:20:48,359 --> 00:20:49,680 Speaker 3: are actually great out there? 386 00:20:49,720 --> 00:20:50,560 Speaker 1: And when they weren't. 387 00:20:50,920 --> 00:20:53,639 Speaker 3: And then Donald Trump the other day saying, you know, 388 00:20:53,680 --> 00:20:56,280 Speaker 3: I'm not we have the best economy in the world 389 00:20:56,280 --> 00:20:59,359 Speaker 3: and I'm not getting credit for it. Well, at least 390 00:20:59,359 --> 00:21:01,480 Speaker 3: prior to yes, we were setting records every day on 391 00:21:01,520 --> 00:21:04,280 Speaker 3: the stock market. But that doesn't make any difference when 392 00:21:04,280 --> 00:21:07,440 Speaker 3: you go to the grocery store, you go to Denny's 393 00:21:07,480 --> 00:21:09,399 Speaker 3: like I did last Saturday night with my kids, and 394 00:21:09,440 --> 00:21:11,800 Speaker 3: it's sixty five dollars for us to eat at Denny's. 395 00:21:11,800 --> 00:21:13,280 Speaker 1: I mean, what the hell we Oh? 396 00:21:13,359 --> 00:21:16,800 Speaker 4: Yeah, affluent people are going around saying, my god, everything's 397 00:21:16,840 --> 00:21:20,200 Speaker 4: so expensive in the base of the MAGA base, it's 398 00:21:20,359 --> 00:21:23,120 Speaker 4: you know, maybe not panic might overstate. 399 00:21:22,680 --> 00:21:26,639 Speaker 1: It, but it's not too many steps below panic. Yeah. 400 00:21:26,960 --> 00:21:34,480 Speaker 3: So brought up insurance because somebody had mentioned in an email. 401 00:21:34,640 --> 00:21:37,439 Speaker 3: Everybody talks about eggs and coffee and rent, but nobody 402 00:21:37,520 --> 00:21:38,200 Speaker 3: talks about car. 403 00:21:38,119 --> 00:21:40,560 Speaker 1: Insurance and homeowners insurance. Just incredible. 404 00:21:40,880 --> 00:21:42,520 Speaker 3: Those are things you need to have if you need to. 405 00:21:42,640 --> 00:21:45,760 Speaker 3: If you own a home, you have DEVID car insurance. 406 00:21:45,800 --> 00:21:47,639 Speaker 3: For instance. We got a couple of texts. This is 407 00:21:47,640 --> 00:21:49,880 Speaker 3: from somebody in Carson City. Thanks for listening to us 408 00:21:50,160 --> 00:21:53,360 Speaker 3: on the Reno station. Probably their nineteen year old son 409 00:21:53,520 --> 00:21:55,439 Speaker 3: just passed the driver's test, and he said, that's a 410 00:21:55,440 --> 00:21:58,600 Speaker 3: whole other story. While kids are getting their driver's licenses 411 00:21:58,640 --> 00:22:03,760 Speaker 3: so much later. I know that's more and more common now. 412 00:22:03,800 --> 00:22:05,520 Speaker 3: But man, I got my driver's license. Well I got 413 00:22:05,520 --> 00:22:08,399 Speaker 3: it at fourteen, but in Kansas at the time. But 414 00:22:09,000 --> 00:22:10,520 Speaker 3: there's no way I would have waited until I was 415 00:22:10,600 --> 00:22:12,040 Speaker 3: nineteen to get my driver's license. 416 00:22:12,359 --> 00:22:15,160 Speaker 4: I would have endured a whipping every day for six 417 00:22:15,200 --> 00:22:17,879 Speaker 4: weeks if it got me my driver's license, right, No 418 00:22:18,000 --> 00:22:20,000 Speaker 4: gidding sixteen anyway. 419 00:22:20,000 --> 00:22:22,840 Speaker 3: Talking about the car insurance for their kid five sixty 420 00:22:22,880 --> 00:22:26,800 Speaker 3: a month or for six months, it's three three hundred 421 00:22:26,800 --> 00:22:28,800 Speaker 3: and sixty dollars for a nineteen year old to have 422 00:22:28,840 --> 00:22:30,320 Speaker 3: car insurance on the car. 423 00:22:30,200 --> 00:22:33,760 Speaker 1: That they got him. Great Scott, five sixty a month. 424 00:22:34,560 --> 00:22:36,080 Speaker 1: Oh my gosh. 425 00:22:36,200 --> 00:22:38,200 Speaker 3: I mean most of us, going back in the day, 426 00:22:38,359 --> 00:22:41,480 Speaker 3: if you were gonna buy a car and make car payments, 427 00:22:41,600 --> 00:22:44,600 Speaker 3: you just thought about the car payment. You didn't think 428 00:22:44,600 --> 00:22:46,639 Speaker 3: about the insurance because it was gonna be something, but 429 00:22:46,720 --> 00:22:49,080 Speaker 3: you didn't really need it wasn't enough to really factor in. 430 00:22:49,640 --> 00:22:51,320 Speaker 3: Now you have to look at it like the beck, 431 00:22:51,480 --> 00:22:53,399 Speaker 3: like the car payment. It might be more than the 432 00:22:53,400 --> 00:22:53,959 Speaker 3: car payment. 433 00:22:54,840 --> 00:22:58,000 Speaker 4: You've got to just strip everything down to liability and 434 00:22:58,040 --> 00:23:01,280 Speaker 4: like ensuring the other driver and if you plow into 435 00:23:01,359 --> 00:23:04,480 Speaker 4: them or whatever, because that's just that's not it's a 436 00:23:04,520 --> 00:23:05,119 Speaker 4: non starter. 437 00:23:05,280 --> 00:23:06,399 Speaker 1: Yeah, here's another example. 438 00:23:06,440 --> 00:23:09,520 Speaker 3: I have a twenty twelve Honda Fit and I pay 439 00:23:09,600 --> 00:23:12,160 Speaker 3: one to eighty seven a month for the bare minimum 440 00:23:12,160 --> 00:23:15,560 Speaker 3: insurance to let me get almost two hundred dollars a 441 00:23:15,600 --> 00:23:20,480 Speaker 3: month for a probably paid off, thirteen year old small car. 442 00:23:21,200 --> 00:23:22,680 Speaker 1: Yeah that's a lot. 443 00:23:25,000 --> 00:23:26,960 Speaker 3: So yeah, when it comes to affordability, I don't know 444 00:23:26,960 --> 00:23:30,600 Speaker 3: what can be done about homeowner's insurance and car insurance. 445 00:23:31,200 --> 00:23:32,920 Speaker 1: You know, I don't even want to say this out loud. 446 00:23:32,920 --> 00:23:36,960 Speaker 3: I'm a renter. Currently, renders insurance is still ridiculously cheap. 447 00:23:37,840 --> 00:23:40,639 Speaker 3: Oh yeah, why renders insurance so freaking cheap? 448 00:23:40,960 --> 00:23:43,760 Speaker 1: It's just your stuff, it's not the structure, I guess. 449 00:23:43,800 --> 00:23:49,320 Speaker 4: Yeah, your your evil clutching landlord has to pay that, 450 00:23:49,400 --> 00:23:52,400 Speaker 4: although it's in your rent, as anybody with any economic 451 00:23:52,400 --> 00:23:53,440 Speaker 4: sense understands. 452 00:23:54,200 --> 00:23:58,320 Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, hey, getting back, you know, i'd like to. 453 00:23:58,280 --> 00:24:01,040 Speaker 4: Take talk more about car insurance and homeowners insurance, but 454 00:24:01,320 --> 00:24:05,200 Speaker 4: they're kind of different beasts and a lot of complexity. 455 00:24:05,240 --> 00:24:07,160 Speaker 1: There, a lot of layers of regulation. 456 00:24:07,359 --> 00:24:10,119 Speaker 3: Oh sure, they're different beasts, but they are left out 457 00:24:10,160 --> 00:24:12,959 Speaker 3: of the conversation. You know, Like I said earlier, eggs 458 00:24:12,960 --> 00:24:16,480 Speaker 3: schmegs quit talking about the price I eggs my car 459 00:24:16,520 --> 00:24:17,720 Speaker 3: insurance is killing me. 460 00:24:18,160 --> 00:24:20,399 Speaker 1: I'll eat oatmeal, but I got to insure my car. 461 00:24:20,600 --> 00:24:24,600 Speaker 4: Yeah, agreed, completely, Getting back to our previous topic, which 462 00:24:24,920 --> 00:24:28,919 Speaker 4: doesn't matter, doesn't need to be reset. But folks within 463 00:24:29,160 --> 00:24:33,399 Speaker 4: MAGA or certainly the Republican Party of the Republican base 464 00:24:34,240 --> 00:24:37,520 Speaker 4: being unhappy with the president and vocally so it's definitely 465 00:24:37,600 --> 00:24:42,199 Speaker 4: on the increase. Whether it's the Epstein thing, which we 466 00:24:42,200 --> 00:24:44,119 Speaker 4: were going to circle back to, not to discuss at 467 00:24:44,119 --> 00:24:47,280 Speaker 4: their length, but we got the inevitable couple of emails 468 00:24:47,280 --> 00:24:49,520 Speaker 4: and texts from people who are just really unhappy with us. 469 00:24:49,520 --> 00:24:53,880 Speaker 3: I'm looking at CBS News. They're interviewing Marjorie Taylor Green 470 00:24:54,000 --> 00:24:57,320 Speaker 3: right now. She's on there talking about the Epstein files, 471 00:24:57,440 --> 00:25:00,199 Speaker 3: and she's hardcore. These things need to be released and 472 00:25:00,280 --> 00:25:02,560 Speaker 3: it's the big story on CBS right now. 473 00:25:03,119 --> 00:25:04,119 Speaker 1: Well, she's also. 474 00:25:04,119 --> 00:25:08,480 Speaker 4: Hardcore denouncing the reason aide to Argentina. 475 00:25:08,000 --> 00:25:10,199 Speaker 3: But she's as meg as you can get or I 476 00:25:10,200 --> 00:25:12,320 Speaker 3: don't even know what that means anymore. Has Megan now? 477 00:25:12,600 --> 00:25:16,080 Speaker 3: Has Magan now become a thing separate from Trump? 478 00:25:16,320 --> 00:25:18,840 Speaker 1: I guess is the question that is the question? Yeah? 479 00:25:18,880 --> 00:25:21,560 Speaker 4: Absolutely, Trump says no, I invented it, So what I 480 00:25:21,680 --> 00:25:26,080 Speaker 4: say goes uh uh that it's mostly true but not entirely. 481 00:25:27,119 --> 00:25:30,119 Speaker 4: But MGT is a MTG is also a hardcore on 482 00:25:30,240 --> 00:25:32,800 Speaker 4: what was the other one, oh, extending the Obamacare something 483 00:25:33,320 --> 00:25:36,000 Speaker 4: of all horrific things. Something we're going to get into 484 00:25:36,119 --> 00:25:38,000 Speaker 4: during our three of the show, so to stay tuned. 485 00:25:38,720 --> 00:25:41,040 Speaker 4: But then they name checking the Washington Post and it's 486 00:25:41,040 --> 00:25:45,040 Speaker 4: pretty even handed article. It's not like liberal journalism that 487 00:25:45,400 --> 00:25:49,280 Speaker 4: there's definitely more open criticism. You're Thomas Massey's your Marjorie 488 00:25:49,320 --> 00:25:52,840 Speaker 4: Taylor Green's Trump upset a lot of people when he 489 00:25:52,920 --> 00:25:55,119 Speaker 4: was pushing for more h one B visus the other 490 00:25:55,200 --> 00:25:58,240 Speaker 4: day saying we don't have enough talented people in the country, 491 00:25:58,280 --> 00:26:01,200 Speaker 4: we need to import workers. That caused at least a 492 00:26:01,240 --> 00:26:07,160 Speaker 4: mini flap where this goes. Nobody knows events, dear boy, events. 493 00:26:07,160 --> 00:26:09,840 Speaker 4: As the old English statesman, I once said. 494 00:26:09,720 --> 00:26:12,920 Speaker 3: I forget who I was watching last night, somebody else 495 00:26:12,920 --> 00:26:17,720 Speaker 3: who was more MAGA than Trump in our government, and thinking, 496 00:26:17,720 --> 00:26:21,240 Speaker 3: if it's kind of like AI, you know, inventing AI. 497 00:26:21,720 --> 00:26:24,080 Speaker 3: You could be the researcher that invented AI. But then 498 00:26:24,119 --> 00:26:27,000 Speaker 3: it goes off on its own, the alignment problem, and 499 00:26:27,400 --> 00:26:29,680 Speaker 3: it's really its own thing now and you're not in charge. 500 00:26:29,800 --> 00:26:31,840 Speaker 3: I wonder if MAGA is going to be like that 501 00:26:31,920 --> 00:26:34,120 Speaker 3: as a movement. Trump invented and everything, and he had 502 00:26:34,119 --> 00:26:35,639 Speaker 3: control over for qua a while, but now it's kind 503 00:26:35,640 --> 00:26:38,960 Speaker 3: of off on, off on off, on its own, and 504 00:26:38,960 --> 00:26:41,000 Speaker 3: it's going to do its own thing, and you're, you know, 505 00:26:41,480 --> 00:26:43,720 Speaker 3: be out of office in three years and it'll be 506 00:26:43,920 --> 00:26:44,760 Speaker 3: whatever it's going to be. 507 00:26:45,680 --> 00:26:48,119 Speaker 4: Right, Well, the heck, the history of political movements is 508 00:26:48,119 --> 00:26:50,479 Speaker 4: often the guy who led the charge ends up on 509 00:26:50,520 --> 00:26:53,399 Speaker 4: the gallows or separated from his noggin or whatever. 510 00:26:53,480 --> 00:26:55,360 Speaker 1: That's why you kill all your rivals in that sort 511 00:26:55,400 --> 00:26:55,800 Speaker 1: of system. 512 00:26:55,840 --> 00:26:59,640 Speaker 4: But uh, don't forget, MAGA was my idea, Trump told 513 00:26:59,720 --> 00:27:04,200 Speaker 4: Laura Ingraham the other day, Laura Ingram, MAGO is nobody 514 00:27:04,200 --> 00:27:06,920 Speaker 4: else's idea. I know what MAGA wants better than anybody else. 515 00:27:08,080 --> 00:27:10,760 Speaker 4: Same day, I guess it was the next day he 516 00:27:10,880 --> 00:27:14,200 Speaker 4: called the Jeffrey Epstein hoax a distraction pushed by Democrats 517 00:27:14,240 --> 00:27:16,880 Speaker 4: and said that only a very bad or stupid Republican 518 00:27:16,920 --> 00:27:21,960 Speaker 4: would fall into that trap. You know, Trump could shoot 519 00:27:22,000 --> 00:27:23,919 Speaker 4: somebody on Fifth Avenue and get away with it with 520 00:27:24,000 --> 00:27:25,840 Speaker 4: a lot of his base, But I don't think it 521 00:27:25,880 --> 00:27:27,920 Speaker 4: can call him stupid and get away with it. 522 00:27:30,520 --> 00:27:32,560 Speaker 3: We did get a text about the Epstein files that 523 00:27:33,400 --> 00:27:35,800 Speaker 3: fits in with the several we've done. Every time you 524 00:27:35,880 --> 00:27:38,320 Speaker 3: attempt to sweep the Epstein files under the rug or 525 00:27:38,320 --> 00:27:42,120 Speaker 3: minimize the story, and more information implicating Trump comes out, 526 00:27:42,560 --> 00:27:44,760 Speaker 3: you two just look like fools covering up for the 527 00:27:44,840 --> 00:27:47,480 Speaker 3: actions of a pedophile, or at least a close buddy 528 00:27:47,480 --> 00:27:48,720 Speaker 3: of a convicted pedophile. 529 00:27:50,359 --> 00:27:52,280 Speaker 4: You know that's funny. That doesn't bother me at all. 530 00:27:52,320 --> 00:27:54,959 Speaker 4: That's just factually incorrect. I've gone through everything that's been 531 00:27:55,000 --> 00:27:57,679 Speaker 4: really so far, and it is a nothing burger with 532 00:27:57,840 --> 00:27:58,520 Speaker 4: air fries. 533 00:27:58,800 --> 00:28:00,200 Speaker 1: It's just nothing. 534 00:28:00,920 --> 00:28:02,720 Speaker 4: On the other hand, we get emails like the one 535 00:28:02,760 --> 00:28:07,280 Speaker 4: from Ben in Texas, who I'll summarize the first time 536 00:28:07,320 --> 00:28:10,040 Speaker 4: I have been disgusted by your take on something. I 537 00:28:10,080 --> 00:28:12,760 Speaker 4: can't even imagine being one of the many Epstein survivors 538 00:28:12,800 --> 00:28:14,920 Speaker 4: who publicly come out and said there are other rich 539 00:28:14,960 --> 00:28:17,159 Speaker 4: and powerful abusers who have been named in police and 540 00:28:17,240 --> 00:28:21,000 Speaker 4: FBI reports that for some reason, have faced zero consequences. 541 00:28:22,600 --> 00:28:24,640 Speaker 4: We would like that to change, only to hear radio 542 00:28:24,680 --> 00:28:27,639 Speaker 4: hosts called her please dumb and a nothing burger. No, 543 00:28:27,960 --> 00:28:30,680 Speaker 4: if survivors are actually saying that we have and never 544 00:28:30,720 --> 00:28:33,520 Speaker 4: would call that dumb and a nothing burger, it's the 545 00:28:34,080 --> 00:28:39,600 Speaker 4: greater scandal and the call by hypocritic politicians, hypocritical politicians 546 00:28:39,720 --> 00:28:41,960 Speaker 4: to release the files that they've had in their possessions 547 00:28:41,960 --> 00:28:46,680 Speaker 4: for years and years, that is fake And on the 548 00:28:46,720 --> 00:28:49,680 Speaker 4: substance of your note, Ben and I don't mind you 549 00:28:49,840 --> 00:28:52,440 Speaker 4: being upset and disagreeing this fine, We can absolutely still 550 00:28:52,480 --> 00:28:59,160 Speaker 4: be friends. I don't think people fully realize how awful 551 00:28:59,200 --> 00:29:05,360 Speaker 4: it would be if every person named in every investigation 552 00:29:06,600 --> 00:29:07,920 Speaker 4: the authorities. 553 00:29:07,360 --> 00:29:09,320 Speaker 1: Came out and said it publicly. 554 00:29:10,920 --> 00:29:15,840 Speaker 4: So there's very little evidence you did anything bad, or 555 00:29:15,920 --> 00:29:19,480 Speaker 4: practically none, but you were named in the investigation. Maybe 556 00:29:19,520 --> 00:29:21,560 Speaker 4: there's some evidence that you may have been up to 557 00:29:21,640 --> 00:29:26,160 Speaker 4: something bad, but there's nothing close to prosecutable levels of 558 00:29:26,160 --> 00:29:29,520 Speaker 4: information to have the FBI come out and name you know, 559 00:29:29,760 --> 00:29:33,520 Speaker 4: Jack Armstrong and Katie Green as part of a sex 560 00:29:33,600 --> 00:29:37,720 Speaker 4: trafficking investigation, when in fact you were cleared or or 561 00:29:37,960 --> 00:29:39,719 Speaker 4: they just you know, there's no evidence really to look 562 00:29:39,760 --> 00:29:40,160 Speaker 4: further around. 563 00:29:40,200 --> 00:29:42,800 Speaker 1: You were never going to be charged with anything, right, 564 00:29:42,880 --> 00:29:44,360 Speaker 1: that would be horrific. 565 00:29:45,440 --> 00:29:48,120 Speaker 3: Well, as you've been putting up from the beginning of 566 00:29:48,120 --> 00:29:50,440 Speaker 3: the Epstein story, what are we talking about here? So 567 00:29:50,480 --> 00:29:53,880 Speaker 3: are we talking about I'll just use some names that 568 00:29:53,960 --> 00:29:58,920 Speaker 3: have been floated out there, Bill Gates, Adam Dershowitz, Ahud Barack, 569 00:29:59,400 --> 00:30:03,600 Speaker 3: former Prime Minister of Israel. Were they knowingly having sex 570 00:30:03,640 --> 00:30:07,560 Speaker 3: with underage women and got away with it? If they 571 00:30:07,560 --> 00:30:09,600 Speaker 3: were and you could prove it, then you ought to 572 00:30:09,640 --> 00:30:12,520 Speaker 3: go after him. But are you talking about the and 573 00:30:13,000 --> 00:30:15,160 Speaker 3: I think a lot of you are, because I know 574 00:30:15,320 --> 00:30:18,520 Speaker 3: some of you. Are you talking about the giant child 575 00:30:18,640 --> 00:30:22,920 Speaker 3: pedal ring that all of Hollywood is involved in and 576 00:30:22,920 --> 00:30:25,720 Speaker 3: Michelle Obama and the Clintons and blah blah blah. 577 00:30:25,880 --> 00:30:26,320 Speaker 1: You're not. 578 00:30:27,320 --> 00:30:30,800 Speaker 3: None of that happened or is happening. That doesn't exist. 579 00:30:31,120 --> 00:30:32,760 Speaker 3: And if that's what you're talking about, and I know 580 00:30:32,840 --> 00:30:35,760 Speaker 3: a lot of you are, we're not covering up anything 581 00:30:35,760 --> 00:30:36,600 Speaker 3: because that's fake. 582 00:30:37,000 --> 00:30:41,240 Speaker 1: That is completely phony. So it's not a real thing. 583 00:30:42,400 --> 00:30:45,720 Speaker 4: Final word to Ben in Texas. Ben, you made it 584 00:30:45,720 --> 00:30:48,120 Speaker 4: perfectly clear you don't believe what Jack was talking about. 585 00:30:48,120 --> 00:30:54,800 Speaker 4: So you're not in that group. If there are people 586 00:30:54,920 --> 00:30:59,440 Speaker 4: so wealthy and powerful that the authorities dare not charge 587 00:30:59,480 --> 00:31:05,520 Speaker 4: them with statutory rape, for instance, our sex trafficking, but 588 00:31:05,560 --> 00:31:09,640 Speaker 4: there's mountains of evidence against them, I would agree one 589 00:31:09,760 --> 00:31:11,880 Speaker 4: hundred percent with you that we need to get to 590 00:31:11,880 --> 00:31:13,880 Speaker 4: the bottom of that and it must come out one 591 00:31:13,920 --> 00:31:18,200 Speaker 4: way or another. But both parties have had a good 592 00:31:18,360 --> 00:31:21,680 Speaker 4: solid shot at the information for a long time and 593 00:31:21,760 --> 00:31:25,160 Speaker 4: the opportunity to bring down each other's you know, sacred cows, 594 00:31:25,360 --> 00:31:26,640 Speaker 4: and they haven't done it yet. 595 00:31:27,720 --> 00:31:29,440 Speaker 1: Yeah. I was watching MSNBC last night. 596 00:31:29,520 --> 00:31:34,200 Speaker 3: They the focus of their our News program was the 597 00:31:34,280 --> 00:31:37,720 Speaker 3: Epstein thing, and they had a panel of people on there, 598 00:31:37,760 --> 00:31:42,160 Speaker 3: including our friend David Drucker who's now with The Dispatch, 599 00:31:42,560 --> 00:31:45,760 Speaker 3: and he kind of threw cold water on their conversation 600 00:31:45,840 --> 00:31:47,600 Speaker 3: when he said, you know, a lot of these emails 601 00:31:47,640 --> 00:31:49,720 Speaker 3: that they mentioned Trump, and it's kind of exciting to 602 00:31:49,760 --> 00:31:52,920 Speaker 3: see Trump's name and everything, but he said, nothing implicates 603 00:31:52,960 --> 00:31:58,280 Speaker 3: him in anything at all yet. So and yeah, we're 604 00:31:58,320 --> 00:32:01,320 Speaker 3: pretty far down the road of this. Lots of lots 605 00:32:01,320 --> 00:32:05,000 Speaker 3: of emails and details and information and still nothing. 606 00:32:04,800 --> 00:32:09,920 Speaker 4: Close, not even a concrete leak right right, which just 607 00:32:09,920 --> 00:32:11,040 Speaker 4: tells me there's nothing there. 608 00:32:11,080 --> 00:32:12,560 Speaker 1: Although Ben, we certainly could be wrong. 609 00:32:12,560 --> 00:32:14,840 Speaker 4: It's funny that you should bring up the Trump involvement, 610 00:32:14,880 --> 00:32:17,080 Speaker 4: which I've kind of almost forgotten about as we were. 611 00:32:16,960 --> 00:32:18,480 Speaker 1: Talking about the others. 612 00:32:18,560 --> 00:32:21,640 Speaker 4: Just another one of these six to eight different versions 613 00:32:21,680 --> 00:32:26,960 Speaker 4: of the Epstein thing that people are coming at this 614 00:32:27,080 --> 00:32:28,360 Speaker 4: with that point of view. 615 00:32:28,440 --> 00:32:30,840 Speaker 3: Well for the left, which again MSNBC, this is their 616 00:32:30,920 --> 00:32:34,720 Speaker 3: lead story all week long. It's all about Trump's involvement 617 00:32:34,800 --> 00:32:39,560 Speaker 3: and there's just nothing there. Have fun, yea, Rachel, Have fun, Rachel. Okay, 618 00:32:39,600 --> 00:32:40,840 Speaker 3: we got more on the way. Stay here. 619 00:32:44,520 --> 00:32:47,920 Speaker 8: Lift off for a massive Blue Origin rocket, the company's 620 00:32:48,000 --> 00:32:51,040 Speaker 8: new Glen rocket now making its way to Mars with 621 00:32:51,160 --> 00:32:52,800 Speaker 8: a pair of NASA spacecraft. 622 00:32:53,120 --> 00:32:54,280 Speaker 1: The rocket's mission to. 623 00:32:54,280 --> 00:32:56,960 Speaker 8: Mars is the first major test for the space company, 624 00:32:57,120 --> 00:32:58,480 Speaker 8: owned by Jeff Bezos. 625 00:32:58,520 --> 00:33:00,960 Speaker 1: It also marked a big win for Blue Origins. 626 00:33:01,040 --> 00:33:04,720 Speaker 8: Rocket booster landed safely back on Earth, a feat only 627 00:33:04,760 --> 00:33:07,480 Speaker 8: achieved by Elon Musk's SpaceX. 628 00:33:08,040 --> 00:33:10,240 Speaker 3: I hope they get to Mars in my lifetime and get, 629 00:33:10,320 --> 00:33:13,040 Speaker 3: you know, great footage coming out of there, and learn 630 00:33:13,040 --> 00:33:14,840 Speaker 3: all kinds of stuff fascinating. 631 00:33:15,400 --> 00:33:18,480 Speaker 4: Katy Perry will be missed on Earth. However, I assume 632 00:33:18,560 --> 00:33:19,720 Speaker 4: she's on that rocket ships. 633 00:33:19,800 --> 00:33:22,400 Speaker 3: Tell us if she's in the Blue Origins leading astronauts 634 00:33:22,440 --> 00:33:25,560 Speaker 3: she's not, she should be Yes, shoot her. I've been 635 00:33:25,600 --> 00:33:26,600 Speaker 3: saying that for a long time. 636 00:33:27,760 --> 00:33:31,320 Speaker 4: So just a real quickly, College sports rocked by mafia 637 00:33:31,400 --> 00:33:34,840 Speaker 4: led gambling scandal fourteen charged and of course. 638 00:33:34,920 --> 00:33:36,440 Speaker 1: New Jersey forget about it. 639 00:33:38,600 --> 00:33:42,520 Speaker 4: College wrestlers, two former ructors, university wrestlers, and a newly 640 00:33:42,560 --> 00:33:46,480 Speaker 4: certified NBA agent Wrestling individuals charge. 641 00:33:46,280 --> 00:33:50,479 Speaker 1: Who's betting on college wrestling betters? 642 00:33:50,520 --> 00:33:54,640 Speaker 4: In short, let's see the charges are the usual two 643 00:33:54,680 --> 00:33:58,440 Speaker 4: million dollar online sports betting operation. One alleged lou Casey 644 00:33:59,120 --> 00:34:04,880 Speaker 4: Mob family soldier Joseph Lull Joe perna is acting as 645 00:34:04,920 --> 00:34:08,960 Speaker 4: a acted as a financier supporting the operation with a 646 00:34:08,960 --> 00:34:10,239 Speaker 4: couple of his sons. 647 00:34:11,040 --> 00:34:14,160 Speaker 3: Forget about it, you put him in a fireman's carry 648 00:34:14,200 --> 00:34:17,280 Speaker 3: in the third period. I'm gonna bet on a headlock 649 00:34:18,320 --> 00:34:19,960 Speaker 3: and that'll cause me to win or something. 650 00:34:21,160 --> 00:34:22,960 Speaker 4: You're gonna get him down, but then you're gonna get 651 00:34:23,200 --> 00:34:24,719 Speaker 4: let him get up, and then you're gonna get him 652 00:34:24,760 --> 00:34:29,399 Speaker 4: down again. If I could, I would. We are going 653 00:34:29,440 --> 00:34:32,239 Speaker 4: to hear about this sort of thing so routinely. It's 654 00:34:32,320 --> 00:34:35,000 Speaker 4: like the you know, the the police blotterer in your 655 00:34:35,000 --> 00:34:38,080 Speaker 4: local paper back in the day, you know, a fender bender. 656 00:34:38,719 --> 00:34:43,640 Speaker 3: I have a feeling, isn't betting on college wrestling? Kind 657 00:34:43,640 --> 00:34:45,640 Speaker 3: of like if you're a drinker and you're in the 658 00:34:45,719 --> 00:34:48,880 Speaker 3: cabinet drinking vanilla extract? I mean, aren't you to the 659 00:34:48,880 --> 00:34:51,280 Speaker 3: point where you ought to realize you got a problem? 660 00:34:51,760 --> 00:34:54,799 Speaker 4: Yummy yummy good stuff. Actually they don't make clear that 661 00:34:54,840 --> 00:34:59,960 Speaker 4: it's about wrestling. It was a couple of former wrests 662 00:35:01,440 --> 00:35:08,879 Speaker 4: who are charged offshore sites, etcetera. Et Sara, Yeah, okay, ah, 663 00:35:08,960 --> 00:35:11,399 Speaker 4: right again, we're gonna hear about this all the time. Oh, 664 00:35:11,440 --> 00:35:14,279 Speaker 4: speaking of the business pages, mention this at the very 665 00:35:14,360 --> 00:35:15,960 Speaker 4: very end of yesterday's show, And the more I read, 666 00:35:16,000 --> 00:35:20,640 Speaker 4: the more interesting it becomes. Who pays when AI is wrong? 667 00:35:21,280 --> 00:35:24,560 Speaker 4: And they tell a story of this solar contractor in Minnesota, 668 00:35:24,640 --> 00:35:28,320 Speaker 4: Wolf River Electric. They started to lose all sorts of business, 669 00:35:28,880 --> 00:35:31,440 Speaker 4: and they started calling clients and saying, hey, why did 670 00:35:31,480 --> 00:35:33,399 Speaker 4: you cancel? We've had a great relationship. Bap bah bah, 671 00:35:33,400 --> 00:35:35,640 Speaker 4: And they said, well, you know, you've been sued by 672 00:35:35,680 --> 00:35:39,000 Speaker 4: the government for deceptive sales practices, and the Wolf River 673 00:35:39,080 --> 00:35:43,000 Speaker 4: guys are like waw ai, completely. 674 00:35:42,400 --> 00:35:42,920 Speaker 1: Made it up. 675 00:35:42,960 --> 00:35:47,399 Speaker 4: They think maybe based on a video game that has 676 00:35:47,440 --> 00:35:50,200 Speaker 4: a location near called Wolf River, or the game is 677 00:35:50,239 --> 00:35:50,919 Speaker 4: called Wolf River. 678 00:35:50,920 --> 00:35:51,680 Speaker 1: I can't remember. 679 00:35:51,840 --> 00:35:53,560 Speaker 3: It does need to be for any reason. Sometimes it 680 00:35:53,600 --> 00:35:54,680 Speaker 3: makes stuff up out of thin. 681 00:35:54,600 --> 00:35:57,400 Speaker 4: Air, right, And they go into a bunch of different 682 00:35:57,440 --> 00:36:00,560 Speaker 4: examples of this, And part of the problem them with 683 00:36:00,840 --> 00:36:03,400 Speaker 4: slander laws is that there has. 684 00:36:03,280 --> 00:36:03,840 Speaker 1: To be intent. 685 00:36:04,640 --> 00:36:07,799 Speaker 3: Yeah, we need to merely be wrong. This could end 686 00:36:07,800 --> 00:36:10,440 Speaker 3: the whole AI thing, depending on the court rulings, might 687 00:36:10,480 --> 00:36:12,520 Speaker 3: be the end of AI. I'm sorry, we got to cancel. 688 00:36:12,560 --> 00:36:14,160 Speaker 3: AI can't happen because of this. 689 00:36:15,080 --> 00:36:18,600 Speaker 4: Next hour plus the Republican Party needs to figure out 690 00:36:18,680 --> 00:36:21,160 Speaker 4: healthcare or it should fold up its big tent and 691 00:36:21,239 --> 00:36:22,680 Speaker 4: go away all next hour. 692 00:36:22,760 --> 00:36:26,440 Speaker 1: Please stay with us, Armstrong and Getty