WEBVTT - Bond. Amy Bond. Agent 00Sexy: Making the Move From Mormon to Porn + Beyond 0:00:04.360 --> 0:00:06.680 I wanted to be a good Mormon wife, but more 0:00:06.720 --> 0:00:09.200 than that, I wanted to be an actress. More than that, 0:00:09.240 --> 0:00:12.280 I wanted to be famous. And you know, sitting in 0:00:12.280 --> 0:00:14.720 the hotel rooms and like being a call girl, I 0:00:14.800 --> 0:00:24.400 kind of got to be an actress. Bond Amy Bond, 0:00:27.840 --> 0:00:31.520 you know there's a there's a story about a young 0:00:31.560 --> 0:00:34.760 actress goes to Hollywood and she's hanging out at the 0:00:34.960 --> 0:00:39.159 counter of Schwab's drug store getting a milkshake or something, 0:00:39.240 --> 0:00:41.800 and some guy comes up with his fingers in the 0:00:41.800 --> 0:00:44.280 shape of a gold post and you know, trying to 0:00:44.320 --> 0:00:47.280 figure out whether you're a movie star, and he discovers 0:00:47.280 --> 0:00:49.600 her and she goes on to famine fortune. This trope 0:00:49.680 --> 0:00:53.600 has traveled as long as Hollywood has been Hollywood, but 0:00:54.000 --> 0:00:59.760 with Bond Amy Bond, it was a different sort of journey. Yeah, 0:00:59.800 --> 0:01:03.160 she kim to Hollywood. Yeah she wanted to be an actress, 0:01:04.920 --> 0:01:10.720 but in mainstream movies. I don't know, but I do know. 0:01:11.480 --> 0:01:15.160 I'm your host, Eugene. 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Ray is Mormon, and I think out of 0:03:01.639 --> 0:03:04.320 everyone in my family, I probably became the most militant 0:03:04.880 --> 0:03:08.120 Mormon of everyone. When I was like thirteen, I got 0:03:08.360 --> 0:03:10.520 really into it. What does that? What does it mean 0:03:10.639 --> 0:03:13.120 to be like a military Mormon? Yeah, I mean, like 0:03:13.600 --> 0:03:15.959 you know, if you follow the rules, like by the 0:03:16.080 --> 0:03:19.880 letter of the law gets pretty intense. So like, you know, 0:03:20.000 --> 0:03:22.040 you go to church every day, and I went to 0:03:22.120 --> 0:03:24.639 a Bible study school before school and I had a 0:03:24.760 --> 0:03:27.480 hundred percent in attendance. And you know, that was really 0:03:27.520 --> 0:03:30.160 important to me. To deal with the magical underwear thing 0:03:30.240 --> 0:03:32.240 that you never take off your body. That's a thing, 0:03:32.440 --> 0:03:36.160 and it's everybody has weird practices. Magical underwear is one 0:03:36.240 --> 0:03:38.080 of them. You know. For a long time growing up, 0:03:38.120 --> 0:03:39.920 I believed that that I had this I have this 0:03:40.040 --> 0:03:43.720 mole on my chest and I believed and this belief 0:03:43.880 --> 0:03:46.320 was like confirmed for me by multiple elders of my 0:03:46.440 --> 0:03:49.120 church that God had put it on me to tell 0:03:49.200 --> 0:03:52.600 me where I should wear all my shirts above because 0:03:52.760 --> 0:03:55.839 that was that if I wore a shirt below that mole, 0:03:55.920 --> 0:03:58.800 it was being a modest. And you know, there's all 0:03:58.840 --> 0:04:02.560 these things that you tell yourselfer because God's trying to 0:04:02.640 --> 0:04:04.760 help you through life. I think a lot of people 0:04:04.800 --> 0:04:09.560 survived that way. My heart was always set on California. 0:04:09.760 --> 0:04:11.440 From the time I was young, I wanted to move 0:04:11.480 --> 0:04:14.600 to California. I wanted to be a Californian that you know, 0:04:14.720 --> 0:04:17.920 it's like a young girl Minnesota. Honestly, I think it 0:04:18.040 --> 0:04:20.960 was because of The Babysitters Club. This is the series 0:04:21.040 --> 0:04:23.400 of books that was very popular what I was like 0:04:23.680 --> 0:04:27.440 eight to fifteen years old. That was about this group 0:04:27.560 --> 0:04:31.280 of women girls who had started a club called the 0:04:31.279 --> 0:04:34.200 Babysitters Club. And one of the girls in the group 0:04:34.320 --> 0:04:39.039 was named Don and Don was the quintessential California girl. 0:04:40.120 --> 0:04:42.720 She had blonde hair, she was a vegetarian, she cared 0:04:42.760 --> 0:04:46.200 about animals, and she was an artist. And I loved 0:04:46.320 --> 0:04:50.200 that idea of like being an artist. How do you 0:04:50.360 --> 0:04:53.320 go from being a daily church girl at the age 0:04:53.360 --> 0:04:57.600 of thirteen to being a young adult chasing their dreams. 0:05:01.920 --> 0:05:04.560 I was traveling to finish school and then you know, 0:05:04.920 --> 0:05:08.840 doing that backpacking thing, and uh, I was in no 0:05:08.960 --> 0:05:12.120 pair and really just I felt like a bohemian for 0:05:12.160 --> 0:05:13.840 the first time in my life. I was like, oh, 0:05:13.920 --> 0:05:15.920 this is cool. Like I met all these artists in 0:05:16.040 --> 0:05:19.960 Paris and I was eighteen at the height of the 0:05:20.360 --> 0:05:22.240 Iraq War, and so there are a lot of the 0:05:22.279 --> 0:05:25.240 people I met were like squatters and like Paris mansions, 0:05:25.320 --> 0:05:27.479 and they would they would go out on the artists 0:05:27.560 --> 0:05:33.040 and war and I like met all these I was 0:05:33.120 --> 0:05:34.880 in no pair, but I had a lot of spare time, 0:05:35.080 --> 0:05:37.200 so I got to go hang out with these people, 0:05:37.279 --> 0:05:41.440 and they really um shaped the way thought about spending time, 0:05:41.839 --> 0:05:44.839 because up until then I came from a military slash 0:05:44.920 --> 0:05:48.640 very religious background, and time was a thing that you, 0:05:49.400 --> 0:05:53.880 like I did to to like put into work, and 0:05:54.120 --> 0:05:57.599 the idea that you like spent it creating paper mache 0:05:58.720 --> 0:06:01.159 caricatures of George wish to go put in a float 0:06:01.440 --> 0:06:04.080 would probably be an insane thing too, or like a 0:06:04.160 --> 0:06:08.080 waste to those demographics. And suddenly I was immersed in 0:06:08.120 --> 0:06:11.400 this world of artists and it felt very deep and 0:06:11.480 --> 0:06:13.640 real to me and like a good way to spend 0:06:13.760 --> 0:06:16.360 time rather than what many would consider a waste of it. 0:06:17.960 --> 0:06:20.280 But I was still very Mormon, and so I was 0:06:20.400 --> 0:06:23.720 balancing this like go to church on Sundays and read 0:06:23.760 --> 0:06:26.680 the Bible every night before you go to bed, with like, oh, 0:06:26.800 --> 0:06:29.520 but there's all these cool people who you know, many 0:06:29.600 --> 0:06:32.360 of them didn't believe in God and um, and I 0:06:32.440 --> 0:06:35.520 thought that was just crazy, you know, like that's just wrong. 0:06:36.000 --> 0:06:38.279 And so I would pray for them for their souls 0:06:38.320 --> 0:06:41.520 to be saved, because that's what you do. And um 0:06:42.640 --> 0:06:44.760 and I was able to like kind of live in 0:06:44.839 --> 0:06:47.400 both worlds really easily. And I think that's actually probably 0:06:47.440 --> 0:06:50.080 my superpower as a human, as I'm able to straddle 0:06:50.800 --> 0:06:56.240 different world I had purchased this keyboard piano that because 0:06:56.279 --> 0:06:59.360 one of the guys who was in this UM protest 0:06:59.440 --> 0:07:02.600 group played the keyboard and he had started teaching me. 0:07:02.720 --> 0:07:05.520 But I wasn't very dedicated. But I liked how when 0:07:05.560 --> 0:07:09.040 I carried this keyboard around, people thought I was an artist. 0:07:09.279 --> 0:07:11.640 As soon as I put that keyboard under my arm. 0:07:11.880 --> 0:07:14.960 It was so easy to get hitchhike rides because people 0:07:15.000 --> 0:07:17.000 are like, oh, she's an artist, you know, she just 0:07:17.120 --> 0:07:19.000 needs to get to her next gig. And I remember 0:07:19.040 --> 0:07:21.200 I had one with this one truck driver. I was like, 0:07:21.560 --> 0:07:23.400 I'll take you if you play me a song, and 0:07:23.480 --> 0:07:26.800 I was literally like I can't. It also had like 0:07:26.880 --> 0:07:29.239 seventy pounds and I carried it the whole way to Italy. 0:07:30.040 --> 0:07:32.800 Can't you play it now? You figure not, Na, No, 0:07:33.040 --> 0:07:36.520 you can't understood. It was like it was a plot 0:07:36.680 --> 0:07:39.920 device to get her from a place of no adventure 0:07:40.400 --> 0:07:44.880 to a place of adventure, a physical place as well 0:07:44.920 --> 0:07:49.880 as a fantastical place that existed in her mind and 0:07:50.040 --> 0:07:56.360 later reality, except she still can't play keyboard. I went 0:07:56.440 --> 0:07:59.280 to Europe mainly because my parents were fine with me 0:07:59.400 --> 0:08:02.280 traveling as long as it was international. They're in the military, 0:08:02.440 --> 0:08:04.560 so they're big thing was, you've got to travel the world. 0:08:04.600 --> 0:08:06.600 You've got to see how the rest of the world lives. 0:08:07.360 --> 0:08:10.000 And so it was okay to go to Europe. But then, 0:08:10.520 --> 0:08:13.520 you know, I really wanted to go to California, and 0:08:13.600 --> 0:08:16.480 so I went back home, made some money, and then 0:08:16.560 --> 0:08:20.320 I got on a bus and and had one backpack. 0:08:20.360 --> 0:08:22.680 I didn't have a keyboard anymore. And then I moved 0:08:22.680 --> 0:08:25.240 to California and I had no plan. So were they 0:08:25.320 --> 0:08:27.120 cool with this? Or were they? I wrote them a 0:08:27.200 --> 0:08:29.280 note I ran away because they knew they wouldn't be 0:08:29.360 --> 0:08:32.079 cool with it. They wouldn't be cool with California. They 0:08:32.080 --> 0:08:37.280 wouldn't be cool with California because, I mean, my mom 0:08:37.400 --> 0:08:39.360 was the only woman, the only person and her family 0:08:39.440 --> 0:08:43.320 to graduate from college. In her mind, going to California 0:08:43.400 --> 0:08:45.360 meant that I wasn't going to keep going to community 0:08:45.400 --> 0:08:48.000 college and get my degree. And you know, for her, 0:08:48.120 --> 0:08:50.959 getting her degree was her pathway to freedom. So okay, 0:08:51.040 --> 0:08:52.640 So so you say you send them a note, I 0:08:52.800 --> 0:08:55.640 run away. I'm in California, and did I wrote them 0:08:55.640 --> 0:08:57.920 a note. I said, you're not gonna like this. But 0:08:58.040 --> 0:09:00.920 I got on a bus and I moved into California 0:09:01.160 --> 0:09:06.560 to chase my dreams to become an actress. I called 0:09:06.640 --> 0:09:10.120 my mom from Texas when the bus landed, and I 0:09:10.200 --> 0:09:13.040 called her and said, I'm okay, I'm safe. She was 0:09:13.400 --> 0:09:17.800 very unhappy. She just wanted she said, are you okay? 0:09:18.559 --> 0:09:25.400 What the funk are you doing? And yeah, that's kind 0:09:25.440 --> 0:09:28.280 of what I expected. You know, you just want to 0:09:28.280 --> 0:09:30.160 tell you we're okay. I wanted her to know I 0:09:30.240 --> 0:09:32.360 was okay, that I loved her very much. I had 0:09:32.440 --> 0:09:34.520 nothing to do with her, blah blah blah, but I 0:09:34.640 --> 0:09:37.679 needed to like go create my own path, right. I 0:09:37.840 --> 0:09:42.559 landed in Los Angeles and like I didn't have a 0:09:42.679 --> 0:09:45.920 room to rent, Like I had not planned nothing, because 0:09:46.040 --> 0:09:48.840 in my mind, if I planned it, then it wasn't 0:09:48.920 --> 0:09:51.920 like the way an artist would do it. So the 0:09:52.000 --> 0:09:54.720 bus stations in downtown l a work. Yeah, bus station 0:09:54.800 --> 0:09:57.040 lands in downtown l A. At like three o'clock in 0:09:57.120 --> 0:09:59.760 the morning. I walk out into the parking lot with 0:09:59.840 --> 0:10:02.800 my like little I think my backpack had actual sparkles 0:10:02.840 --> 0:10:05.719 on it, and there were two security guards standing in 0:10:05.800 --> 0:10:08.960 front of a parking lot next to the Gray homebus station. 0:10:09.280 --> 0:10:12.600 There's like glass all over the cement. There's people sleeping 0:10:12.679 --> 0:10:15.480 on the parking lot, which I've never seen before, and 0:10:15.600 --> 0:10:17.960 like freak out and I run back into the Gray 0:10:18.040 --> 0:10:21.640 Home bus station and these two security guards. I see 0:10:21.679 --> 0:10:23.880 one of them past the other five dollar bill and 0:10:23.960 --> 0:10:26.040 goes We had a bet on how long you'd be 0:10:26.120 --> 0:10:32.800 out there, and so I sat at this Gray homebus 0:10:32.880 --> 0:10:36.720 station for like three hours. I told myself, well, if 0:10:36.760 --> 0:10:40.640 you get to Westwood, that's where there's u C l A. 0:10:41.000 --> 0:10:43.400 And then you can go find like a corkboard with 0:10:43.559 --> 0:10:47.160 somebody who has housing for rent. And that's how I 0:10:47.240 --> 0:10:49.320 lived in Europe, you know, you just find a corkboard 0:10:49.360 --> 0:10:51.840 and a coffee shop and then you get your next 0:10:51.880 --> 0:10:54.240 place to live. So we go look at all these 0:10:54.280 --> 0:10:57.520 corkboards in l A. And everything is so expensive. And 0:10:57.600 --> 0:10:59.920 by the time I'm done looking at all these corkboards, 0:11:00.800 --> 0:11:02.840 like the sun is going down, so I'm like, well, 0:11:04.040 --> 0:11:06.280 I'm not going to find a place tonight, like my 0:11:06.640 --> 0:11:11.520 my one plan is backfired. And on the bus, I 0:11:11.640 --> 0:11:14.200 was so excited. I hadn't eaten in like three days, 0:11:14.679 --> 0:11:17.120 Like I had just been too excited to eat. And 0:11:17.520 --> 0:11:21.200 so I'm walking with like my luggage down this street 0:11:21.280 --> 0:11:24.000 and I think I was I was probably crying and 0:11:24.160 --> 0:11:26.520 like walking down the street like oh ship, what am 0:11:26.520 --> 0:11:28.959 I gonna do? And this car pulls up behind me 0:11:29.080 --> 0:11:32.720 and this guy jumps out and he goes hey. Then 0:11:32.760 --> 0:11:35.839 I'm like, what you know. He's like, you look like 0:11:35.920 --> 0:11:38.160 you need help. And so, long story short, I end 0:11:38.280 --> 0:11:40.240 up living with this dude for like three weeks, was 0:11:40.280 --> 0:11:43.319 the old was the story. He was a graduate student 0:11:43.400 --> 0:11:48.040 at U C. L A. And I think he liked 0:11:48.160 --> 0:11:52.560 the idea of saving somebody so perfect. I needed some out. 0:11:52.679 --> 0:11:55.240 So it was great. So there was no creepy alterior 0:11:55.360 --> 0:11:58.800 sexual motive. There was no creepy alterior thing. I made 0:11:58.840 --> 0:12:00.920 it very clear at this and I was still a virgin. 0:12:01.320 --> 0:12:04.240 I'm like, I'm a virgin. I'm very religious. I don't 0:12:04.280 --> 0:12:06.599 believe in premarital sex. So you said this as you 0:12:06.679 --> 0:12:08.880 got in the car. Well, when when we got to 0:12:09.000 --> 0:12:10.599 his house. I was like, look, I don't want it 0:12:10.679 --> 0:12:14.560 to be weird, and he was cool. And this dude 0:12:14.640 --> 0:12:18.240 like drove me around. He helped log me into his 0:12:18.440 --> 0:12:20.880 like student board so that I could look at all 0:12:20.920 --> 0:12:23.640 the housing that was on the internet, like on the 0:12:23.800 --> 0:12:26.480 u c L a specific internet. He helped me find 0:12:26.520 --> 0:12:28.360 a room. I found a room that was like three 0:12:28.480 --> 0:12:31.719 seventy five a month in Westwood. I shared it with 0:12:31.840 --> 0:12:35.800 like two other people and it was fine. So this 0:12:35.960 --> 0:12:39.440 guy really did like that's a solid basically saying, yeah, 0:12:41.600 --> 0:12:43.600 why did you finally leave? Oh? I guess you found 0:12:43.640 --> 0:12:45.560 the room. I found the room. He helped me find 0:12:45.600 --> 0:12:48.000 the room. Like it was never like a long term solution, 0:12:48.120 --> 0:12:49.760 but he was like, I think you need help. I 0:12:49.840 --> 0:12:54.200 can help you. Yeah, all right, so you get your room. 0:12:54.520 --> 0:12:57.959 I got my room. And Rick had driven me to 0:12:58.040 --> 0:13:01.560 Central Casting the first day after I stayed at his house, 0:13:02.240 --> 0:13:04.960 and I had heard that Central Casting was where everybody 0:13:05.040 --> 0:13:07.079 went when they were trying to be an actor. So 0:13:07.240 --> 0:13:10.599 I went there. I got my head shot taken and 0:13:11.440 --> 0:13:13.640 lo and behold, they called me in like five minutes 0:13:14.400 --> 0:13:17.240 and they were like, do you want to do judge Judy? Sure? 0:13:17.840 --> 0:13:20.000 So I sat in the audience on Judge Judy, and 0:13:20.080 --> 0:13:22.040 then I sat in the audience of Judge Joe Brown. 0:13:22.280 --> 0:13:24.600 And then I sat in the audience there was another judge. 0:13:24.960 --> 0:13:27.240 I forgot the third judge, but I like, I like 0:13:27.520 --> 0:13:30.600 worked the audience of Judge shows for like three months. 0:13:31.600 --> 0:13:33.560 How much were they? The opinion is an extra? Right? 0:13:34.360 --> 0:13:40.040 Was an extra today? Fine? Good enough? Like my rents 0:13:40.080 --> 0:13:42.800 four hundred bucks? Fine, you can tell the folks back home. 0:13:43.120 --> 0:13:45.559 I'm on the show, on that show, that's right. So 0:13:45.760 --> 0:13:48.439 anyway I'm on Judge Judy. I start going to all 0:13:48.480 --> 0:13:51.920 of these other casting calls and I just can't nail 0:13:52.000 --> 0:13:54.760 like a real part, like a part that has speaking right. 0:13:55.280 --> 0:13:57.360 And in order to get the SAG card, which is 0:13:57.400 --> 0:13:59.599 the holy grail for new actors in l A, you 0:13:59.679 --> 0:14:03.520 have to get like three speaking parts. And I remember 0:14:03.600 --> 0:14:06.840 going on this audition where there are these three girls, 0:14:08.080 --> 0:14:11.319 three girls sitting in you had acting classes before or not? 0:14:12.679 --> 0:14:15.600 I had never taken an acting class. Also, by the way, 0:14:15.760 --> 0:14:19.400 I had tried out for my Hopkins High School Minnetonka, 0:14:19.480 --> 0:14:23.320 Minnesota High School musical. I couldn't even get a part 0:14:23.360 --> 0:14:26.880 in that. So, like, I'm by no means like an actress, like, 0:14:27.680 --> 0:14:32.720 but I played an artist when I played that part, 0:14:33.000 --> 0:14:35.400 when when I was the keyboard, you know, and I 0:14:35.560 --> 0:14:38.320 was like, if I just do it, then it will 0:14:38.360 --> 0:14:41.560 come true for me. And to a certain extent, I 0:14:41.640 --> 0:14:43.560 think that's kind of a great way to live your life. 0:14:43.720 --> 0:14:46.280 But for me, I was overly confident, Like I was 0:14:46.440 --> 0:14:48.600 very positive that I was going to be famous in 0:14:48.720 --> 0:14:51.200 like three months, and like there was no doubt in 0:14:51.240 --> 0:14:53.360 my mind that was going to happen. So then that 0:14:53.440 --> 0:14:56.560 didn't happen in three months, and I had started to 0:14:56.880 --> 0:15:00.400 run out of money, and and I meet these three 0:15:00.440 --> 0:15:03.560 girls at a sandal audition was like an audition to 0:15:03.680 --> 0:15:06.560 be in a sandal commercial, you mean the resort or 0:15:06.640 --> 0:15:10.800 the actual footwear like a sandal. So I'm at this 0:15:10.960 --> 0:15:14.040 audition and the three other girls who I'm sitting there with, 0:15:14.280 --> 0:15:16.920 and by the way, I had like taken the bus there, 0:15:17.120 --> 0:15:19.240 woken up at like five am to get to this 0:15:19.400 --> 0:15:21.880 ten am audition was still late, so i'd like run 0:15:21.960 --> 0:15:25.480 the last half mile. And I'm sitting there like sweaty 0:15:26.080 --> 0:15:29.600 and feeling just like the most disgusting person. And I'm 0:15:29.640 --> 0:15:32.600 looking at these three women and they're like, you know, 0:15:32.720 --> 0:15:36.000 they're wearing like very expensive clothes. They have like keratin 0:15:36.080 --> 0:15:40.200 treatments in their hair, their nails are well done, and 0:15:40.320 --> 0:15:42.600 they had had they had They were talking about how 0:15:42.640 --> 0:15:45.640 they had just gotten their tone nails done for this audition, 0:15:46.320 --> 0:15:48.320 and I was like, oh, you got your tone nails 0:15:48.400 --> 0:15:51.800 done for this audition and they were like, yeah, that's 0:15:51.840 --> 0:15:54.080 what you do. You dress for the part you want. 0:15:54.320 --> 0:15:56.240 Like one of them looked at me with this very 0:15:56.320 --> 0:15:58.240 like mean girl look and she was like, you dress 0:15:58.280 --> 0:16:02.120 for the part you want. And I was like, oh, like, 0:16:02.320 --> 0:16:04.760 I need to make like real money. I need to 0:16:04.800 --> 0:16:08.560 buy a car, I need to like buy pedicures when 0:16:08.600 --> 0:16:10.720 I go on auditions, like I need to do all 0:16:10.760 --> 0:16:14.480 this ship. I didn't know that. So then I decided, Well, 0:16:14.960 --> 0:16:17.960 the reason I'm not booking these, why I'm not nailing 0:16:18.040 --> 0:16:20.960 them and then getting the parts, is because I just 0:16:21.040 --> 0:16:23.680 need more money in order to like play the part. 0:16:26.280 --> 0:16:30.520 Scant funds. And you see that you're being outpaced by 0:16:30.600 --> 0:16:33.440 people who were spending a lot to look a lot 0:16:33.600 --> 0:16:38.240 better and act actually act, So what do you do? 0:16:41.560 --> 0:16:44.920 So I started nude modeling and that was like step one. 0:16:45.160 --> 0:16:47.800 I was did you find the agency that got you 0:16:48.040 --> 0:16:52.640 new modeling? Yeah? I mean yeah, you answer an ad 0:16:52.840 --> 0:16:55.480 the back of l A Weekly has everything you need. 0:16:55.600 --> 0:16:57.640 I answered two outs. I answered the back of an 0:16:57.760 --> 0:17:00.400 l A Weekly, And the two outs were one was 0:17:00.480 --> 0:17:04.320 a woman who was basically like a pimp, right, and 0:17:04.880 --> 0:17:08.080 her thing her ads said no sex. And I really 0:17:08.160 --> 0:17:10.320 liked the idea that I could come, that I could 0:17:10.400 --> 0:17:13.440 do this work but go back to being religious because 0:17:13.480 --> 0:17:15.520 I was still dating this Mormon guy at the same 0:17:15.600 --> 0:17:19.479 time where DC and I was just lying to him 0:17:19.520 --> 0:17:22.119 about everything close to your parents, close to my parents, 0:17:22.920 --> 0:17:26.479 and this plan to eventually come out to really going 0:17:26.520 --> 0:17:29.119 to do the long distance thing. See how it worked, right? 0:17:29.520 --> 0:17:31.480 I mean I think his plan was like, we'll get 0:17:31.560 --> 0:17:34.520 married and then you'll come live with me. But I like, 0:17:34.600 --> 0:17:37.080 how did she make my dream come true? Right? So 0:17:37.600 --> 0:17:41.240 I get hooked up with this woman who, um like, 0:17:41.359 --> 0:17:43.720 does nude modeling shoots, and I get hooked up with 0:17:43.800 --> 0:17:47.280 another woman who, um she puts you up in a 0:17:47.320 --> 0:17:53.200 hotel room and then you do massages. Right. So that 0:17:54.480 --> 0:17:56.960 was my pimp woman. Yeah. I never learned her name. 0:17:56.960 --> 0:18:00.680 I always called her my girl. But she was no nonsense. 0:18:00.720 --> 0:18:03.679 And I love that bitch because when you talked to her, 0:18:03.840 --> 0:18:05.600 you knew she was in a hurry. She had better 0:18:05.640 --> 0:18:07.879 ship to do than talk to you right now. So 0:18:08.359 --> 0:18:12.360 it was always super straightforward to the point, get in there, 0:18:12.560 --> 0:18:14.960 I'll call you when someone is here. I'll pick up 0:18:15.040 --> 0:18:16.960 the money at ten thirty, and we did like a 0:18:17.040 --> 0:18:20.040 fifty fifty split. So after like two weeks of like 0:18:20.160 --> 0:18:23.160 the nude modeling and the massages in the hotel room, 0:18:23.200 --> 0:18:26.400 which by the way, it was usually actually massages. Yeah, 0:18:26.480 --> 0:18:29.119 it's just like lonely dudes. So it was actually like 0:18:29.359 --> 0:18:37.960 pretty cool. So the nude modeling thing was the was 0:18:38.080 --> 0:18:42.240 there a product associated with that? So we're taking pictures 0:18:42.280 --> 0:18:47.879 of you for posters, we're taking pictures uh painters are 0:18:48.800 --> 0:18:53.399 So there's a lot of photographers who do pictures that 0:18:53.560 --> 0:18:56.960 they think they can sell to a magazine, porno mag 0:18:57.280 --> 0:19:01.720 or anything. And in my mind the time, nobody actually 0:19:01.800 --> 0:19:04.000 looks at porn. So I'm never going to get caught 0:19:04.119 --> 0:19:07.280 doing this because I didn't look at porn. The guy 0:19:07.320 --> 0:19:09.560 I was dating, I believed it didn't look at porn. 0:19:09.840 --> 0:19:12.159 So you weren't draped over a nicely covered couch with 0:19:12.240 --> 0:19:18.280 grapes in your hand. You know, the person is already 0:19:18.280 --> 0:19:21.239 in the hotel or you're in the room and they 0:19:21.320 --> 0:19:24.680 come to you. My girl calls me, hey, your name 0:19:24.760 --> 0:19:28.520 is Candy Berryes coming up in ten minutes. So the 0:19:28.560 --> 0:19:30.960 guy comes in the room, and what happens. He takes 0:19:31.000 --> 0:19:33.720 all his clothes off. She was very clear about the 0:19:33.840 --> 0:19:36.920 order of operations. So you know, he has to put 0:19:37.000 --> 0:19:39.760 the money on the nights to first, and then he 0:19:39.840 --> 0:19:41.960 can take his clothes off because the cops never gonna 0:19:42.080 --> 0:19:45.960 just like put money down. So if he doesn't put 0:19:46.000 --> 0:19:50.480 money down, run for your life. All right, all right? 0:19:50.680 --> 0:19:52.680 Did you ask her Steven would be like where the 0:19:52.720 --> 0:19:56.320 fire escape? She didn't. Not do you ever at any 0:19:56.359 --> 0:19:59.960 point ask her like, why why are we afraid of cops? 0:20:00.119 --> 0:20:03.680 It's just a massage? No, that made sense? Yeah, okay. 0:20:03.920 --> 0:20:06.280 I was like, I think this is illegal. This is 0:20:06.359 --> 0:20:09.680 probably illegal, but like that just made it more exciting. 0:20:10.200 --> 0:20:13.680 I was here for the adventure. So now these guys 0:20:13.760 --> 0:20:16.240 showed up from massages. Nobody tried to fuck you, Nobody 0:20:16.320 --> 0:20:20.640 tried to suck me, like, absolutely nobody. Yeah. It wasn't 0:20:20.720 --> 0:20:24.240 until I started doing house calls that that changed. So 0:20:25.040 --> 0:20:27.639 in call versus outcol So, somebody calls, I want a 0:20:27.640 --> 0:20:30.159 massage at my house, and she said, okay, well it 0:20:30.200 --> 0:20:31.960 works out all right. He showed you the house and 0:20:32.000 --> 0:20:35.320 then what happens in and then all that all bets 0:20:35.359 --> 0:20:39.000 are off, like they'll offer more money for additional services. 0:20:39.640 --> 0:20:42.440 So my girl had a really smart that. I think 0:20:42.480 --> 0:20:45.320 it's really smart. I mean she's the only pimp I've 0:20:45.359 --> 0:20:48.840 ever worked with, you know, which is she would only 0:20:48.920 --> 0:20:51.440 send me to places where I was with somebody else. 0:20:52.280 --> 0:20:55.639 So it was like two girls that were ordered. So 0:20:55.800 --> 0:20:59.160 they asked for two girls yea with other girls willing 0:20:59.200 --> 0:21:01.240 to have sex or not. Oh yeah, okay, so you 0:21:01.720 --> 0:21:04.320 almost always the other girl was willing to have sucks 0:21:04.600 --> 0:21:07.119 and like down like they were down to fuck because 0:21:07.200 --> 0:21:10.560 then they got more money. I was like, I think, God, 0:21:10.600 --> 0:21:12.720 I can't go that far because God won't forgive me. 0:21:13.119 --> 0:21:15.680 So you were sitting there as you're screwing or you're like, 0:21:16.000 --> 0:21:17.880 it's okay, I did the massage. I'll just sit out 0:21:17.880 --> 0:21:20.200 here and wait for you. Guys know I watched okay, 0:21:20.280 --> 0:21:24.080 so you're there, okay. I mean usually I would like 0:21:24.280 --> 0:21:29.040 fondle somebody, you know, I would like massage somebody, fondle somebody, 0:21:29.720 --> 0:21:33.200 you know, like, hey, can you play with her? Tiths? Sure? 0:21:33.760 --> 0:21:37.720 You know that will be an extra. That was my question, 0:21:37.760 --> 0:21:39.280 and so how much how much money are you pulling 0:21:39.400 --> 0:21:43.920 now from So between those two things, nude modeling was 0:21:44.000 --> 0:21:46.000 like four hundred a day and it was kind of 0:21:46.080 --> 0:21:49.040 like six hour days, a lot of standing around and 0:21:49.160 --> 0:21:53.320 being cold, which is, you know, kind of boring. And 0:21:53.480 --> 0:21:56.240 then the like face to face was much more exciting 0:21:57.000 --> 0:22:01.080 because you're seeing this whole as as a Mormon turned 0:22:01.320 --> 0:22:04.720 thrown into the sex world's human I was like, holy 0:22:04.800 --> 0:22:08.280 sh it, you know, this is so insane. This is 0:22:08.359 --> 0:22:11.480 like what movies are about. I didn't think this was real, 0:22:12.040 --> 0:22:16.600 you know. And so I would make a lot of 0:22:16.640 --> 0:22:19.440 cash between the hotel rooms and the massages and the 0:22:19.920 --> 0:22:23.080 calls I would make. At the beginning, I only did 0:22:23.160 --> 0:22:25.560 hotel rooms, so I would make about eight hundred two 0:22:25.680 --> 0:22:28.479 thousand a day if I did like a full day 0:22:28.520 --> 0:22:31.359 sitting in a hotel room. The new modeling like four D. 0:22:31.600 --> 0:22:34.680 So she meets this photographer Mike Square. Guy takes a 0:22:34.760 --> 0:22:37.720 lot of photos of her. But one day Mike has 0:22:37.760 --> 0:22:42.560