Speaker 1: Eric the Architect, what's up? How's it going? It's going? Hey,
Speaker 1: I have a question. Okay, how do you spell architect?
Speaker 1: Sometimes I messed that up too. It's a R C
Speaker 1: H I T E C T.
Speaker 2: I think that's one of those words that has a
Speaker 2: high probability of getting There's infinite ways to misspell out it.
Speaker 1: You can put a K at the end of the t.
Speaker 1: That's a fact. And you know what else? Yeah, you
Speaker 1: ever see a word and you swear that it's spelled wrong,
Speaker 1: but it's spell right.
Speaker 2: That's one of those words I when I like on
Speaker 2: the stream where it's just live with Eric the Architect,
Speaker 2: Now I had to like highlight what I wrote, cut it,
Speaker 2: put it.
Speaker 1: Into Google and see you double check and double check.
Speaker 1: I appreciate that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, for sure.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I have a lot of stuff spelled wrong. Both.
Speaker 1: My name is actually my last name too.
Speaker 2: Really so your last name Elliott?
Speaker 1: Right, Yeah, there's the first name architect and my last name.
Speaker 1: So yeah, I noticed. Okay, So, because because you have
Speaker 1: two t's at the end and two else two l's,
Speaker 1: two else, is there.
Speaker 2: A prop is there like one object give way to
Speaker 2: spell Elliott? Or is it kind of all over the place.
Speaker 1: I think it just picked. Some people when they pick
Speaker 1: elliot is their first thing, they spell it differently to
Speaker 1: m h. But I would say it mainly the way
Speaker 1: that I spell it is probably the right way. M hm. Eric,
Speaker 1: What what has been the most persistent thought on your
Speaker 1: mind lately? It's a good question. Who cares? Yeah? How
Speaker 1: about that? Yeah? I like that? I like that. Are
Speaker 1: you Are you good at like not caring what other
Speaker 1: people think of you? Yeah? Have you always been that way? Nah? No?
Speaker 1: Is that something you had to like kind of cultivate
Speaker 1: some new sh Okay, it's I would say in the past,
Speaker 1: like maybe three years.
Speaker 2: Really, Yeah, that's like, that's that's kind of right yesterday. Right, Yeah,
Speaker 2: that's kind of recent. I mean you've been like making,
Speaker 2: you know, putting yourself out there and making stuff for
Speaker 2: much longer than that. You know, how would you say
Speaker 2: you've gone about cultivating that like who cares?
Speaker 1: Attitude? I read some of a book called The Art
Speaker 1: of Not Giving a Funk, but that one.
Speaker 2: By Mark Manson. I love that book.
Speaker 3: So I started that, but I didn't finish it, and
Speaker 3: I just I decided in that moment that I don't care.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and I did I didn't care enough to even
Speaker 1: finish the book.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, no, I mean that's the way. That's the
Speaker 2: way to read these like self help books. Man, it's
Speaker 2: like just you just do it enough until you're like
Speaker 2: all right, I got it. Get the confidence you need
Speaker 2: to because all these books they can be summed up
Speaker 2: in like two sentences, but they kind of dragged the dragon.
Speaker 1: Yeah, just wasting paper at that point to say, who cares?
Speaker 1: You know?
Speaker 2: Is there anything like when back when you did care?
Speaker 2: I mean, do you do we even look at it
Speaker 2: like that? Do we look at it like like b
Speaker 2: C A C.
Speaker 1: Before I care? Uh?
Speaker 2: Back when I did care? Yeah, back back when you
Speaker 2: did care? Was there was there something in particular that
Speaker 2: I cared about a lot?
Speaker 1: Oh? Man? My voice? Your voice? Yeah, I used to
Speaker 1: fuck with me, like really because I wanted like a
Speaker 1: really like deep voice, you know, and like sometimes people
Speaker 1: would call to like speak to my mom or my dad. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and they would think that I'm like a girl really yeah,
Speaker 1: And I was like, no, it's me Eric.
Speaker 2: And would kids like make fun of you for your
Speaker 2: voice and stuff?
Speaker 1: Yeah, because it didn't changed. I was like fourteen, I
Speaker 1: think you have a cool voice. Thanks, man, your voice
Speaker 1: really cool too, thanks man. Yeah, oh it's gonna be fun.
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah yeah, So I mean on here we we
Speaker 2: just we talked to people on the phone about life
Speaker 2: and life, death and death.
Speaker 1: You stream on twitch?
Speaker 2: Right?
Speaker 1: Yeah? Yeah?
Speaker 2: Did you ever like you did you?
Speaker 1: Did you? Were you mainly doing music on there?
Speaker 3: Or were you just kind of It was a mixed bag, man.
Speaker 3: I was like producing on Wednesdays and then Fridays.
Speaker 1: Was like zesty night. What's zesty Knight?
Speaker 3: Zesty Night is like it's really late, So like I
Speaker 3: just play music and then people in the chat attack
Speaker 3: each other sometimes and then when somebody insults me, everybody
Speaker 3: gangs up on that person and guessing band.
Speaker 1: Are you? Are you a night owl? How's your how's
Speaker 1: your sleep schedule? Nowadays? I go to sleep really early, man, Okay, yeah,
Speaker 1: that time I was going to sleep like two clock
Speaker 1: in the morning every day. Three o'clock. Now I'm like ten,
Speaker 1: I'm done.
Speaker 2: Do you feel Do you feel better like waking up regular?
Speaker 1: You get up earlier? Yeah?
Speaker 2: You know, what do you what do you do with
Speaker 2: the first like hour of your day?
Speaker 1: I make a tea or a coffee. My girl makes
Speaker 1: a coffee.
Speaker 3: Nice she just got one of the expresso machines for
Speaker 3: me for Christmas.
Speaker 1: Oh nice. So we've been making them. Well, she's been
Speaker 1: making them for me and it's been a great folds.
Speaker 1: Well it's not fold just but you know, like the
Speaker 1: whole thing, like the best part of waking up is
Speaker 1: I'll just say, espresso in your cup.
Speaker 2: Yeah, because it's about what the coffee you represent. It's like, look,
Speaker 2: I know I have a whole day of like I
Speaker 2: have to do ship, deal with, deal with you got
Speaker 2: to answer your emails and just random bullshit.
Speaker 1: It just helps you. Yeah, and then you get a
Speaker 1: good ship in as well. Yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah, no, the coffee ships that really gets you.
Speaker 1: They get to you start your day. You know how
Speaker 1: often after the coffee does the ship get pretty fast?
Speaker 1: Pretty fast. Have to be in the radius of a bathroom,
Speaker 1: like upon consumption, you know.
Speaker 2: Do you ever you ever like kind of mixed them up,
Speaker 2: like you drink half the coffee, then you take shit.
Speaker 2: How you go back to the coffee and then you
Speaker 2: go back into the toilet.
Speaker 3: That's very and you know what you have to really
Speaker 3: be really careful of is if you mix orange juice
Speaker 3: in that somehow, so if you're taking orange juice, you might.
Speaker 1: Say, oh, I want an orange juice. Oh, let me
Speaker 1: get a coffee. You might as well not leave the
Speaker 1: house for like an hour or two. Does orange juice
Speaker 1: make you shit?
Speaker 4: Is that?
Speaker 3: A combination of orange juice and coffee definitely makes me
Speaker 3: shit worse?
Speaker 1: The shits is different than shitting huh huh.
Speaker 2: But it's almost like, uh, I feel like there's something
Speaker 2: spiritual about that, Like you're purging your body of the
Speaker 2: toxins so that you start the day right fresh.
Speaker 1: It's like ayahuasca. It's like I have you done ayahuasca? No?
Speaker 1: So I I know that.
Speaker 2: Like the thing is like, uh, you're everyone else in
Speaker 2: the gang, like you know, they're very into like psychedelics
Speaker 2: and stuff and you and you you're not. No is
Speaker 2: there Like is that an intentional thing? Like is it
Speaker 2: like for a reason that you kind of like swore off?
Speaker 2: Like I don't know I have it swore off or
Speaker 2: what it is.
Speaker 1: But I've had my own experiences, yeah, but not as
Speaker 1: often as them, okay, And I think that I just
Speaker 1: like to watch man. It was funny, like it was awesome,
Speaker 1: like just watching your friends leave themselves.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and then not judging either, but kind of like
Speaker 3: I feel like I'm there too already.
Speaker 2: Are Are Are you a guy where like if people
Speaker 2: like like they'll like confide in you things.
Speaker 3: I'd say, so, yeah, pretty responsible guy. I feel older
Speaker 3: than I really am.
Speaker 2: So you're a good guy to be on drugs around.
Speaker 3: I think so I'm probably the best person to be
Speaker 3: around because I'm not gonna fuck with you.
Speaker 2: That's a good I feel like we need more of that,
Speaker 2: right because there's there's there's everyone wants to do drugs.
Speaker 2: Nobody wants to hang out with people who are on
Speaker 2: drugs while not doing That's me. But there's a pleasure
Speaker 2: in that because you're exactly you're like getting to fully
Speaker 2: experience watching other people, as you say, leave themselves.
Speaker 1: Leave themselves.
Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, but drinking, well, I cannot drink when other
Speaker 3: people drink too, But that's not really as fun.
Speaker 1: Yeah, being drunk with everybodss is pretty it's pretty fun. Yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 1: Do you do you smoke weed? Yeah? A little bit, Ok,
Speaker 1: a lot of it, a lot of it? Yeah? Nice? Nice.
Speaker 2: I feel like being not high when other people are
Speaker 2: high is not as It's not as fun to watch people.
Speaker 1: It's not fun to watch people be high. Yeah, high
Speaker 1: is different. Yeah, high is different.
Speaker 3: And also being high around people who are not high
Speaker 3: is not tera fun at all. Yeah, because you know
Speaker 3: you look crazy too, Yeah, and at least like you
Speaker 3: look less crazy when other people look crazy.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 3: But then if I'm the only person with like red eyes,
Speaker 3: it just it looks weird.
Speaker 2: It's fun for everyone to be sort of like feeling
Speaker 2: really awkward together, as opposed to you're feeling awkward and
Speaker 2: you're around other people who are of mind.
Speaker 1: Right right, exactly? Hey, cheers, cheers, man, let's do it. It's
Speaker 1: like the slippery assns.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, no, this is I'm waiting for this thing
Speaker 2: to just crash and fall and I'll cry.
Speaker 1: I don't want to spill this beer in my dick.
Speaker 2: Hey, you want to take some calls?
Speaker 1: We should, let's do it.
Speaker 2: I mean, hello, Ricky. Oh, Ricky's on the on the
Speaker 2: motorcycle right now.
Speaker 1: Oh, he's getting out of car.
Speaker 4: Hello.
Speaker 1: Hello, Hi, how's it going. It's going. It's going pretty
Speaker 1: good now on a motorcycle, moped, Ricky.
Speaker 2: It says here that you want to talk about a
Speaker 2: time that you got punched in the face at a
Speaker 2: flatbush zombies concert.
Speaker 1: Sounds crazy already.
Speaker 5: Ah, yeah, that is. That is what I said just
Speaker 5: before that. Can I quickly talk about what just happened
Speaker 5: to me and why it founded that way a second ago?
Speaker 2: I'm mildly curious. Let's let's hear it.
Speaker 5: Okay. So the reason it sounded that way is because
Speaker 5: I was standing outside of my car because I was
Speaker 5: just driving and someone hit the back of my car
Speaker 5: at a red light, and uh, I don't know, there's
Speaker 5: no damage, and he seemed really, uh, really nervous, but
Speaker 5: kind of just let him go.
Speaker 1: I don't know if I should have done that, but oh,
Speaker 1: he hit your car, you just let him go. It's
Speaker 1: very nice.
Speaker 5: Kind of he kind of just like bumps. He kind
Speaker 5: of just like lightly bumped to the back and there
Speaker 5: was no damage or anything, and I, you know, I
Speaker 5: pulled over and he was like, I'm really sorry, and
Speaker 5: you know, he seemed really nervous about it, you know,
Speaker 5: like I don't know if he like doesn't have insurance
Speaker 5: or something, and like I don't know.
Speaker 1: Damage to my car and.
Speaker 5: It's already kind of beat up, so I kind of
Speaker 5: just let him go.
Speaker 1: Hmm.
Speaker 2: I think like, like like you were saying, I think
Speaker 2: it's a good Samaritan thing to do.
Speaker 1: That was really nice. Are you a nice guy?
Speaker 6: Yeah?
Speaker 5: I guess. I guess most people would say I'm a
Speaker 5: nice guy. You know, I think I'm pretty nice.
Speaker 1: But you got punched and you're a nice guy. Could
Speaker 1: you could you explain that?
Speaker 5: Yeah, so I can talk about that. Yeah, I can
Speaker 5: talk about that, and so that that was completely random.
Speaker 5: I you know, it's not like I was looking to
Speaker 5: fight anyone. I was just at the concert, uh, you know,
Speaker 5: enjoying the music that you've made. And yeah, basically I was.
Speaker 5: It came from like my blind side. Like all I
Speaker 5: saw was like a fist coming out of nowhere from
Speaker 5: like my right side, and so he hit me. I'm
Speaker 5: like kind of like the temple like eye area, and
Speaker 5: I turned around and no one was there, Like they
Speaker 5: ran away basically right after coward. Yeah, I mean, you know,
Speaker 5: I don't know what, Like, I don't think I did
Speaker 5: anything for them, you know, like I don't know what
Speaker 5: brought them to punch me specifically, or if it was
Speaker 5: an accident, Like.
Speaker 1: I don't know, did you were you in a mosh
Speaker 1: pit or were you close to a fit?
Speaker 5: I was outside of the mos pit.
Speaker 7: That was the thing.
Speaker 5: Like, you know, I was in the moshpit before, but
Speaker 5: I was out of the most pit, just kind of
Speaker 5: hanging out. I don't know, but I like pushed him
Speaker 5: in the mosh pit and he was mad.
Speaker 3: I think you just solved it. I think you. I
Speaker 3: think you figured it out. I think you figured it out.
Speaker 2: He said he was in the in the mosh pit.
Speaker 3: And then he got the fuck out the mosh pit
Speaker 3: and then the guy punched him.
Speaker 2: Oh, because did you did he push somebody out of
Speaker 2: the mosh pit?
Speaker 1: You might have if he might have? What is your face?
Speaker 8: Look?
Speaker 1: You just have like some people, some people have faces
Speaker 1: that that you do want to punch.
Speaker 2: Some some people have faces that you just want to punch.
Speaker 1: Some people have to punch face.
Speaker 2: Do you feel like you have a punch face.
Speaker 5: I'm like, I don't think so. I've never been told
Speaker 5: that before. But I feel like that's not something that
Speaker 5: people tell you.
Speaker 1: You know, No, people don't tell you. They just they
Speaker 1: just punch you the you Yeah.
Speaker 5: I mean it's only it was only that one instance.
Speaker 5: You know, It's not like a reoccurring thing.
Speaker 2: Well, I mean, listen, Ricky, do you before we go
Speaker 2: do you do you feel like you learned anything from
Speaker 2: you said?
Speaker 1: Do I sound like I have a punch face?
Speaker 2: What do you think? Does he sound like he has
Speaker 2: a bunch of face? I also kind of hear it
Speaker 2: a little bit.
Speaker 1: It's like the tone that you're using is a little punchy.
Speaker 1: It's a little bit. But you have a punchable voice voice.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you might have a great, totally non punishable face.
Speaker 2: But were you talking around this guy and maybe you
Speaker 2: heard your punishable voice and he was like, I gotta
Speaker 2: punch that guy.
Speaker 5: I don't think so, you know. I mean, I'm mostly
Speaker 5: just listening to the music.
Speaker 1: So you know, do you dance really awkwardly?
Speaker 9: Well?
Speaker 5: Again, I mean, no one's ever told me that, But
Speaker 5: I don't know.
Speaker 1: You could have a punishable body, just yeah, sometimes you
Speaker 1: see somebody say I want to knock that guy out,
Speaker 1: and especially in a mosh pit environment, it doesn't make
Speaker 1: it okay, but sometimes you want to punch people in
Speaker 1: the face. Do you think people can have like punishable vibes?
Speaker 5: Yeahnble Aura. Maybe they're jealous of Vie.
Speaker 1: Jealous of your vibe. That could be it as well.
Speaker 1: That could be it as well.
Speaker 2: But but Ricky, tell us before we go, did you
Speaker 2: learn anything from this? Did the punch knock some sort
Speaker 2: of your brain, some part of your brain into any
Speaker 2: any epiphany of any kind, or did you leave the
Speaker 2: experience rather empty handed?
Speaker 9: Uh?
Speaker 5: Well, I just tried not to let it affect me
Speaker 5: since you know, I you know, it didn't hurt that bad,
Speaker 5: and I just kind of continued enjoying myself.
Speaker 1: And the uh man, Ricky, Yeah, I hope that doesn't
Speaker 1: happen again. But you know, I'm sorry that you get punched.
Speaker 1: Hopefully you learn to fight better, I guess, or maybe
Speaker 1: have some spider senses the next time that happens you.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean, it wasn't really a fight situation.
Speaker 2: It was just a.
Speaker 5: Sucker punch, you know.
Speaker 1: Uh.
Speaker 3: But for me, if somebody touches me, I have to
Speaker 3: fight them. But I don't know if they just feel
Speaker 3: like I just have to fight you after that. Because
Speaker 3: that's why you probably a nice guy. I think we
Speaker 3: started by saying that you said you think you're a
Speaker 3: nice guy.
Speaker 1: You let somebody off.
Speaker 2: With the yeah right, Yeah, that's we kind of if
Speaker 2: you let somebody off with the tap to the back
Speaker 2: of the car. You know, I can see you being
Speaker 2: the kind of guy let somebody punch in the face
Speaker 2: in the face, which is a way to go through life.
Speaker 2: Sudden you're you're a pacifist, and that's a respectable way
Speaker 2: to move about the world.
Speaker 5: You know what I mean? I didn't. I didn't know
Speaker 5: where they went.
Speaker 2: Listen, Ricky, don't let anyone let uh get you to
Speaker 2: compromise your values.
Speaker 1: All right. You clearly have a way in which you
Speaker 1: like to diffuse situations, and it sounds as though it's
Speaker 1: working for Thank you very much for calling Ricky.
Speaker 5: Wow, thank yeah, thank for.
Speaker 1: Do you think did he.
Speaker 2: Want, like wanted something from you? To think it was like, hey,
Speaker 2: I got punched in your concerts? You want can you
Speaker 2: can I get like an autograph or a baseball thing.
Speaker 1: Or I don't know what he wanted. If you want anything,
Speaker 1: what is something? Maybe a n f T. I don't
Speaker 1: fucking know, do you?
Speaker 2: Okay? So you you were saying that if somebody, like,
Speaker 2: if somebody just suck a punch to deal, you'd fight
Speaker 2: to mack immediately, I have to, you have to so
Speaker 2: so so you're not like on a scale from somebody
Speaker 2: like Ricky. Ricky, Oh, it's very much sort of like
Speaker 2: let bygones be bygones, whatever whatever to somebody who's just
Speaker 2: like out of control, like.
Speaker 1: Looking for for the competils.
Speaker 2: Where do you lie on your like willingness to get
Speaker 2: involved in in.
Speaker 1: A special of some kind? I have one better for you.
Speaker 1: Hit me. I was at a party. If anybody's at
Speaker 1: this party, here's the story, then they're gonna know what
Speaker 1: part I'm talking about. But I was at a party
Speaker 1: where everyone was related to the person that was throwing
Speaker 1: the party, and then everybody else was friends of the
Speaker 1: person's party. And a fight started and everyone in the
Speaker 1: party was fighting each other. But everybody was like fighting
Speaker 1: a stranger that they don't know why they were fighting them.
Speaker 1: And somebody hit me, So I just looked for somebody
Speaker 1: else to hit that I did.
Speaker 2: No, So, like the sort of the energy was getting
Speaker 2: like passed from one person, they didn't necessarily need to
Speaker 2: be reciprocated so.
Speaker 1: That it needed to be put back into somebody else,
Speaker 1: into somebody else. Was it the wisest thing? Probably not,
Speaker 1: But in that moment, I mean, I'm only human. Somebody
Speaker 1: just like punched me, so I'm going to find someone
Speaker 1: else to punch. Yeah, But I'm not going to punch
Speaker 1: somebody that's like a friend of mine. I'm going to
Speaker 1: punch somebody who looks like they need to get punched
Speaker 1: in that environment, not in the normal. Do you remember
Speaker 1: what started the scuffle in the first place?
Speaker 3: It was, uh, somebody was talking to somebody's girl. It's
Speaker 3: usually that, right, Yeah, And somebody didn't know this was
Speaker 3: a girl, a girl that was like her boyfriend was there.
Speaker 1: Oh okay, he was flirting with some and then another
Speaker 1: person came to defend that, and then a brawl, a
Speaker 1: melee started, and that's why I was like, why did
Speaker 1: I get punched? I didn't fuck anybody's girlfriend, you know,
Speaker 1: So do you do you.
Speaker 2: Did you have like, uh, did you get like an
Speaker 2: adrenaline rush?
Speaker 1: I did? And I was drunk, so we were all
Speaker 1: pretty like drinking and stuff.
Speaker 3: So maybe that might have I feel like I'm having
Speaker 3: a therapy session. That might have been the reason why
Speaker 3: I was so excited to fight. But I was also
Speaker 3: confused and maybe a little scared, yeah, just because like
Speaker 3: I don't want to fight somebody that like I'm going
Speaker 3: to see again, for sure at a barbecue somewhere for.
Speaker 1: Sure, for sure.
Speaker 2: So but I mean it's good, it's good to be prepared,
Speaker 2: like like, I'm a pacifist, but that's by by, you know,
Speaker 2: because I can't if somebody wants to if somebody out
Speaker 2: there wanted to fuck with me or punch me or
Speaker 2: anything other that I can't do anything because I'm I'm
Speaker 2: very weak. So it'd be nice to very weak fighting wise,
Speaker 2: like it would be. I'd like to have the option,
Speaker 2: but since I don't, like like I can I can
Speaker 2: retreat into like, oh, I'm a passive it's for like whatever,
Speaker 2: like a spiritual reasons, but secretly it's because you know
Speaker 2: what am I going to do?
Speaker 1: You know, so you just kind of like broadcasting that
Speaker 1: out there that you that you can't fight.
Speaker 2: Yeah, look, if someone wants, if someone listens to this
Speaker 2: right now and they want to antagonize me in some way,
Speaker 2: then you know they should. You only live once.
Speaker 1: I like that your nice got too, Hey, thanks man.
Speaker 1: If you don't have a punisable face, though.
Speaker 2: I appreciate that, maybe without the makeup, I might have
Speaker 2: a punchable punishable face.
Speaker 1: What does Jacob have?
Speaker 2: Let's see, Jacob, is that you Jacob from West Virginia.
Speaker 1: West Virginia, mountain, Mama, what's up? How's it going? Yeah? Hello, lot, Hello?
Speaker 9: Eric?
Speaker 1: How you go the Hi? How are you?
Speaker 7: I am amazing?
Speaker 1: Amazing? How are you amazing? Jacob Jacob Jacob chikub Ticket.
Speaker 2: It says here that you were not sure what you
Speaker 2: want to do for a career. Says you graduated college
Speaker 2: with a business marketing degree. You aspire to be a
Speaker 2: music producer, but you feel pressure from your family to
Speaker 2: steer in a more traditional field. Is this is this accurate?
Speaker 1: Jacob?
Speaker 10: Yeah, yes, yes, that is correct.
Speaker 2: When you sort of uh went off on your path, Eric,
Speaker 2: was there any like pressure from any from outside sources
Speaker 2: of like, oh, maybe you should go do something else.
Speaker 3: You're always gonna people always gonna take you're crazy when
Speaker 3: you're about to embark on greatness, you know, because you
Speaker 3: have to be a little crazy to believe that you're
Speaker 3: gonna make it, because so many people don't make it,
Speaker 3: and not even in music, but just in life. Like
Speaker 3: everyone wants to be fucking cool, and everybody's like technically
Speaker 3: the coolest person that they know, you know, because we
Speaker 3: are all cool. But I think you got to like
Speaker 3: prove to the world that you're cool somehow, and that's
Speaker 3: what we're looking for.
Speaker 1: We're just looking for somebody.
Speaker 3: To prove that you deserve my attention, and I don't
Speaker 3: know how to do that. Some people tap their face,
Speaker 3: some people shit on themselves, some people troll people, some
Speaker 3: people do anything to be recognized, but mostly what you
Speaker 3: got to do is really convince people that you're cool.
Speaker 1: What do you think about that, Jacob, I think he's
Speaker 1: completely right.
Speaker 10: I think you got to be a little crazy to,
Speaker 10: you know, reach the levels that you know, you know
Speaker 10: I would dream of, and especially in music, because so
Speaker 10: many people do it. You know, you just gotta you're crazy,
Speaker 10: really got to stand out.
Speaker 3: One time I was doing a show and this dude
Speaker 3: wanted my head band and I was gonna give him
Speaker 3: a brand new one.
Speaker 1: And he was like, no, no, no, no, no, I
Speaker 1: want one you sweated in. And then I said, you're disgusting,
Speaker 1: and then he said, but I love you.
Speaker 3: And then I gave him a sweaty one. So he
Speaker 3: has that probably in a shrine or some shit. Now,
Speaker 3: I don't know. I hope he's okay. But that was
Speaker 3: weird as fun and I will never forget that. And
Speaker 3: that's kind of cool.
Speaker 2: That's the level that Jacob ascribes to Jacob is at
Speaker 2: the level that you want to get to, where like
Speaker 2: people are like, Jacob, please give me your underpants so
Speaker 2: that I can add them to my Jacob shrine.
Speaker 10: Oh for sure, yeahs.
Speaker 1: Unused used.
Speaker 2: You know, I really like what you said. We're like
Speaker 2: everybody's cool. It's something like everybody's cool, but you just
Speaker 2: kind of gotta like decide that you're cool and then
Speaker 2: be like, that is the executive decision that I have made,
Speaker 2: and I am presenting that to the world, and they
Speaker 2: can disagree with me if they want, but they're wrong.
Speaker 1: They're wrong. I'm still cool. I like that. What about
Speaker 1: the cool table at school? Right? Like everybody wanted to
Speaker 1: be at the cool lunch table, right, But then you
Speaker 1: realize that your table could be the cool table too.
Speaker 1: You can just decide coolness is all the eye of
Speaker 1: the beholder.
Speaker 3: Fuck that table for these people, like we all eating
Speaker 3: shitty pizza and uh chocolate milk. You know, So what
Speaker 3: makes you any cooler at your fucking because you got
Speaker 3: bubbles in your.
Speaker 1: Hair and shit, like or you got whatever the fuck
Speaker 1: you got, Like Jacob, what is it that that you
Speaker 1: believe makes you cool? If anything.
Speaker 10: Mm hmm. I think probably just my creativity. I don't know.
Speaker 10: Just I am confident in myself and I'm confident too.
Speaker 10: I do really well entertaining myself. I guess I can
Speaker 10: spend days alone. I don't know.
Speaker 1: Pretty cool.
Speaker 3: Do you think you could survive for months in the
Speaker 3: woods alone like they do on the show Alone?
Speaker 1: I've heard of that show. It's a great show.
Speaker 10: I don't know about that, but probably one of my
Speaker 10: dreams is, like if I ever got a whole bunch
Speaker 10: of money or whatever, would be to just get like
Speaker 10: a like a ranch or something, or just a cabin
Speaker 10: and just full out there for months at a time.
Speaker 3: Where in West Virginia are you located, by the way,
Speaker 3: because I know a lot about West Virginia.
Speaker 10: I'm actually, oh really, I'm actually in Nitro. It's like
Speaker 10: right outside of Charleston, the capitol.
Speaker 1: Okay. And how far is that from Morgantown.
Speaker 10: That's like probably three hours three and a half.
Speaker 3: Okay, So Morgantown is about an hour from Pittsburgh where
Speaker 3: the football the football teams playing ship Morgantown the w
Speaker 3: v U UH football team, for sure. There's something called
Speaker 3: Towny Knight. Do you know Towny Knight. Do you know that?
Speaker 1: I do know, But you're from West Virginia.
Speaker 2: You're saying he should go to Towny Knight.
Speaker 3: Yeah, Towny Knight is what cool people hang out. That
Speaker 3: was what I was trying to help him find his
Speaker 3: version of what's cool. Maybe Towny Night is where all
Speaker 3: the people that are locals hang out and everybody that's
Speaker 3: not in the school go somewhere else.
Speaker 2: People people play music at Towny I could possibly be
Speaker 2: Jacob's debut. I like comes up on the stage with
Speaker 2: his turntable Tonight, Towny Knight.
Speaker 1: West Virginia. There it is.
Speaker 2: It sounds like you get some homework, Jacob.
Speaker 10: It does it does?
Speaker 1: Do you like the song I was singing, Country Roads,
Speaker 1: Country Road, take me home to the play up, I'll
Speaker 1: belong West Virginia, Mountain Mama, take me home, Country rules.
Speaker 2: Very Hey, thank you calling Jacob, and I'm good luck
Speaker 2: to you on your future endeavors.
Speaker 10: Of course, good lucky you all. And cannot just say
Speaker 10: Eric that three thousand and one health inspians want to
Speaker 10: begin to do music.
Speaker 1: So I love you man, Thank you, hey, take care
Speaker 1: of Jacob, love you too, Love you guys. Damn. I
Speaker 1: love you too, I love you back. That was wow.
Speaker 2: When he said that he can entertain himself for hours.
Speaker 2: I thought he was going to go on a rant about.
Speaker 1: Jack and all. That's what I thought he was going into.
Speaker 2: Right, Okay, I'm not alone in that because I thought
Speaker 2: that I was gonna wait until he was off the
Speaker 2: phone to say it. But I was like, you totally
Speaker 2: just were sounding like he was going to talk about.
Speaker 1: I said that was one of his best features or
Speaker 1: skills skills.
Speaker 2: I was like, whoa, Yeah, I mean that's not a
Speaker 2: bad life. You know, you make a little bit of music,
Speaker 2: do you jack off?
Speaker 1: You don't be the best at that though, That's not
Speaker 1: that's not cool. Now when you say best and what
Speaker 1: what rubric like?
Speaker 8: What?
Speaker 1: What within? Jat like fast? You can make yourself come
Speaker 1: very fast. You can do it. There's so many different
Speaker 1: way styles styles. Yeah, I'm I'm I'm gonna leave that
Speaker 1: one alone. I have a friend who he does.
Speaker 2: He does this thing he calls a DJing the dick
Speaker 2: where he like will he like puts his penis between
Speaker 2: his legs and just like presses it until it last. Yeah,
Speaker 2: well I think it becomes hard and then he just
Speaker 2: kind of like push it like he's like pushing a
Speaker 2: button on a control panel and he'll just like press
Speaker 2: it until it until it comes. That's interesting if there
Speaker 2: were a contest in which people were showing off their skills,
Speaker 2: something like what Jacob claiming he could.
Speaker 1: Be good And I feel like that could be a
Speaker 1: good that could be cool talent, that could be cool
Speaker 1: somehow to someone. I'm sorry, I'm sorry I brought that up.
Speaker 1: It could be cool with somebody. Is the the stranger?
Speaker 9: Right?
Speaker 1: Is that one? I think? Yeah, when you touch yourself
Speaker 1: you don't know who's touching you or some ship like that.
Speaker 1: Have you done that? Nah? Dude? Really, I just like normal,
Speaker 1: like straight up, you know, get everyone like, I wonder
Speaker 1: what that would be like just sit on I feel
Speaker 1: like there's too I feel like ship like I feel
Speaker 1: like a loser after that. Actually, really would you? You
Speaker 1: would be ashamed that you like tried it? Yeah, and
Speaker 1: he a look shame like, damn, I should have just
Speaker 1: drank some water and sat down. Why did I do this?
Speaker 4: You know?
Speaker 1: Do you do? You do?
Speaker 9: You?
Speaker 8: Do?
Speaker 2: You do you feel a lot of shame? Is there
Speaker 2: anything that you do that produces shame? Fair amount of
Speaker 2: shame for you in your life?
Speaker 1: Oh man, no really no, I don't really know. Shame
Speaker 1: is like to feel embarrassed is really weird.
Speaker 3: The only time I've ever fall embarrassed is when like
Speaker 3: somebody's trying to make me feel bad and then you're
Speaker 3: like bringing up something like that. I told you you're
Speaker 3: trying to use it to like shit on me or something. Yeah,
Speaker 3: but then at that point it's not even shame. You're
Speaker 3: just an asshole.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, shame.
Speaker 2: Have you had people do that, like the like you
Speaker 2: tell somebody something in confidence and then they just bring
Speaker 2: it up.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Yo, you did this, Like, Yo, what the fucked up?
Speaker 1: That was our secret? Like why did you tell people that?
Speaker 1: That's definitely happened to me?
Speaker 2: Yeah, and you were so we were trying saying earlier,
Speaker 2: you're a good confidante, yes to other people.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I wouldn't do that to anybody. Do you feel like,
Speaker 1: do you believe in karma? Do you believe it like
Speaker 1: the way we act out people?
Speaker 8: You do?
Speaker 1: Yes?
Speaker 2: Have you experienced that? Like, okay, so you're a guy,
Speaker 2: people confide in you. You say you consider yourself a
Speaker 2: nice guy. Do you feel like people are then nice
Speaker 2: to you? Back. They they you know, are are respond
Speaker 2: with similar energy that you give them.
Speaker 1: I think for the most part, people treat me the
Speaker 1: way I treat them.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I guess that's charmatic, right, But I think people
Speaker 3: definitely have taken advantage of me from being too nice, really,
Speaker 3: and that's when I had to get zesty.
Speaker 2: It's, you know, it's really hard because like, obviously, if
Speaker 2: you're a nice guy, there's so much opportunity for people
Speaker 2: to take advantage of you. And when that happens, I
Speaker 2: feel like you're like, well, shit, I shouldn't be nice anymore.
Speaker 2: But do you does that come up to you or
Speaker 2: do you're like, oh, I should change my ways start
Speaker 2: being more closed.
Speaker 1: It's situational. It's kind of like when people call you
Speaker 1: right they're like, oh, I have a real issue. Like
Speaker 1: the girl with the bees, it seems like she's really
Speaker 1: struggling with that.
Speaker 3: If you if you're I'll put an energy to me
Speaker 3: that I think is like foul, I'm going to respond
Speaker 3: to it like and that could be as easy as
Speaker 3: being like.
Speaker 1: I'm not even tuned into when you're talking to me.
Speaker 3: I'm already thinking about like the new season of Rick
Speaker 3: and Morty or something like that, Like while you're talking,
Speaker 3: I'm just kind of like mm hmmmm hmmm.
Speaker 2: So that is that one of the ways of like
Speaker 2: responding to like vitrol or people being addicted to you
Speaker 2: just to.
Speaker 1: Like, dude, Yeah, you know some people say, because I'm
Speaker 1: a Leo, we you're the third.
Speaker 2: Who else do we talk about uh astrology with?
Speaker 1: On here? What are you? Are you into astrology?
Speaker 3: Here's the thing, bro, I'm not, but my girl is,
Speaker 3: so I guess it made me one like while I'm
Speaker 3: a Leo, but like she's in aries and like we'll
Speaker 3: play this game where like you'll see a dude and
Speaker 3: you got to guess what his sign is.
Speaker 1: And sometimes I'm right. It's kind of weird. You have
Speaker 1: good signed, are I think? So I'm trying to guess yours?
Speaker 7: But a.
Speaker 1: Cancer?
Speaker 9: No?
Speaker 1: Fuck, do n't me tell you what I guess? Let
Speaker 1: me get one more virgo. No, I'm a I'm a Sagittarius, okay,
Speaker 1: all right, all right, I'm a saittarist rising.
Speaker 2: You're sagittarist rising.
Speaker 1: Okay.
Speaker 2: The rising is from what I understand, the rising is.
Speaker 1: What you appear. You appear at and then when people
Speaker 1: hang out with you, like, oh, you're not a you're
Speaker 1: a blank. I want to be I want my rising
Speaker 1: to be the same. I know you can't.
Speaker 2: You don't get to pay, but I would.
Speaker 1: Like I've been thinking about this. I would like to
Speaker 1: live a life where my rising is like.
Speaker 2: Maybe maybe not maybe not one hundred percent how I
Speaker 2: actually am, but like pretty close. I would like to
Speaker 2: give off vibes that are similar to how I actually am.
Speaker 2: But I but I also I don't believe, like I
Speaker 2: don't know if I believe in like a true self.
Speaker 2: I feel like how you are in one situation, how
Speaker 2: you are in a situation, they're both true.
Speaker 1: There's not like one that's the right thing. Does that
Speaker 1: makes sense? Yeah? I think it's like at this particular time,
Speaker 1: the world was like aligned in a certain way in
Speaker 1: a certain time and a certain position of the earth,
Speaker 1: and that affects how you respond to the world. I
Speaker 1: do believe in that. But I do believe like and
Speaker 1: it may be just because there's some Leo shit. It's
Speaker 1: like I could do anything I want to do, though,
Speaker 1: so like.
Speaker 3: I may be like because there's other ship, there's like
Speaker 3: how rising sign and then there's the other ship too.
Speaker 1: What's the other one not falling sign. It sounds like
Speaker 1: it should be, but it's not. What is it You're not?
Speaker 1: Is it not falling sign?
Speaker 7: Right?
Speaker 1: There's the moon, your house?
Speaker 7: What is it?
Speaker 1: Fuck?
Speaker 2: There's the sun, the stars, your moon sign.
Speaker 3: Your house of cards, house of fuck, some other one.
Speaker 3: But yeah, it's like what you appear as what you
Speaker 3: truly have. And then the other one is something other ship.
Speaker 3: But I think I'm a Leo, yeah, Sagittarius rising, and
Speaker 3: then a double Leo or some other thing.
Speaker 1: Leo and Sagittarius. Right, Okay, so what do you think that?
Speaker 2: Like, there is a strong difference between how you come
Speaker 2: off to people and how you actually are and people.
Speaker 1: Get to know you. Me, I think I'm a straight shooter, man,
Speaker 1: short shooter. How what you see is what you get.
Speaker 1: What you see is what you get? Okay, hell yah, yeah,
Speaker 1: what about you?
Speaker 2: I'm gonna I'm really thinking because I want to answer
Speaker 2: truthfully of this question. I feel like if somebody, I
Speaker 2: mean if somebody see like would see me on like
Speaker 2: this stream of this podcast obviously, because like we're doing
Speaker 2: a thing, I'm a little more like, you know whatever,
Speaker 2: then I would be like if we were just having
Speaker 2: a regular conversation.
Speaker 1: But I think they're pretty similar, pretty similar.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's good. Yeah, people should like know what they're getting, right.
Speaker 3: The the sickest people are the ones that's like, bro,
Speaker 3: where the fuck is this coming from? Yeah, and then
Speaker 3: you realize you have to get away from them like fast.
Speaker 1: That's always scary for me to get away from people
Speaker 1: who are like, uh, like like sirens. M you gotta
Speaker 1: be careful.
Speaker 2: Oh, people who are like oh, they're really you in
Speaker 2: with one version of themselves.
Speaker 1: Then they actually are artists.
Speaker 3: Yeah, this one dude, man, I just thought about that.
Speaker 3: This one dude created an entire life. He's from Texas.
Speaker 3: He created his entire life. He came to New York
Speaker 3: and he pretended he was a producer.
Speaker 1: Bro. I never seen him make any beats, and he
Speaker 1: had tons of beats in his laptop and I never
Speaker 1: seen him and he use anything.
Speaker 3: And then I found out that he was lying about everything.
Speaker 3: Really yeah, fucking con artists past it was he did
Speaker 3: he like get.
Speaker 2: Money from people? Was there like a reason behind the
Speaker 2: line or just.
Speaker 1: For think he's just sick? Just for fun, He's just
Speaker 1: a Sickoh. Some people get off by like knowing that
Speaker 1: their lives working.
Speaker 2: If if if have you ever thought about that? If
Speaker 2: you're thought about like going to a new state and
Speaker 2: putting on a mustache and being like, I am a doctor.
Speaker 1: Uh no, but that sounds kind of cool, Like just
Speaker 1: to pretend.
Speaker 2: It would be kind of cool. That's kind of I
Speaker 2: guess what we're doing.
Speaker 1: We're doing. You know, it's not bad.
Speaker 2: I was gonna say, Man, the shades. I was going
Speaker 2: to join you with the shades, but I I I
Speaker 2: it's I love wearing sunglasses because you just disappeared.
Speaker 1: You just don't exists. I feel like I'm not even
Speaker 1: here exactly. That's the Oh my god, it's the best.
Speaker 3: It's I had this line that I said, I about
Speaker 3: to wear a pair of shades and all my interviews
Speaker 3: mm the song that they come out. But I wrote
Speaker 3: that because I had shades on when I was writing,
Speaker 3: and for some reason, I just felt like, Yeah.
Speaker 1: Are you gonna Are you gonna have shades on in
Speaker 1: more interviews? I should? You should? It makes you feel
Speaker 1: like you're not there.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's I don't want to come off like an asshole, though,
Speaker 3: because sometimes when you can't see people's eyes, you can't
Speaker 3: tell if they like you a little bit.
Speaker 1: There's a lot of communication in the eyes that you
Speaker 1: were just cutting off. Yeah, especially when they're like pitch black. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you can't see anything. Gives you give me, give you
Speaker 1: the power position. Yeah, yeah, I'm okay with that. You've
Speaker 1: done a couple of these with shades on, too, right, Yeah,
Speaker 1: I've done I did one.
Speaker 2: I did one with Buddy that had we both had
Speaker 2: shades on. It's great when we both have shades on
Speaker 2: because then there's like, you know, we're both sort.
Speaker 1: Of in the uh in the ether together. Yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I wish I could do this always with shades,
Speaker 2: but you should.
Speaker 1: You should let me compose the piano piece for one
Speaker 1: of these. Love that.
Speaker 3: Yeah, down, you have to be really long. I don't
Speaker 3: know how long this isn't playing. It's been playing for
Speaker 3: a long time.
Speaker 2: Oh this is a loop. I'm looking for a new
Speaker 2: theme song. If you got any ideas therapy, get.
Speaker 1: Go, I might, I might, actually please dude, you should
Speaker 1: you have a girl, right, yeah, dead for a long time,
Speaker 1: long time, a long time.
Speaker 2: Do you remember the first like date or whatever it was?
Speaker 3: Yeah, dude, I don't remember the first date, but I
Speaker 3: do remember one time we got really fucked up, Yeah,
Speaker 3: drinking champagne. Nice On actually the first album on three
Speaker 3: thousand and one, the Lace Odyssey, I said that I
Speaker 3: drank a whole I think I lied into the h bottles.
Speaker 1: But it wasn't just me. It was me, my girlfriend,
Speaker 1: one of our best friends, and like a dude or
Speaker 1: some shit. You said that in a bar. Yeah, but
Speaker 1: it was a real story. We drank so much champagne
Speaker 1: that like, I threw up in the kitchen sink the
Speaker 1: next day, which had plates in it. Mm, and I
Speaker 1: was now that I'm thinking bad it. I was pretty
Speaker 1: ashamed about that.
Speaker 2: But I mean, look, okay, if the plates are in
Speaker 2: the sink, they are to be dirty. Well, they're dirty already,
Speaker 2: They're to be washed. It's not like you threw up
Speaker 2: in the dishwasher full of Clanes that crazy.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: So I mean I feel like, of all the places
Speaker 2: that you could possibly throw up, it's in the place,
Speaker 2: in this place.
Speaker 1: It's on the stuff that's scheduled to be washed. Thanks man,
Speaker 1: of course, see that's why we do this. I don't
Speaker 1: feel bad, of course, of course. How much of the
Speaker 1: So do you have a thing where like do you
Speaker 1: what's your level of like.
Speaker 2: Truth integrity in your lyrics, Like does everything need to
Speaker 2: be truth or will you exaggerate things that to make
Speaker 2: it sound just for the sake of.
Speaker 1: The art, you know, Like.
Speaker 3: Actually I was making music about an hour before I
Speaker 3: came here, and a lot of it was true. But like,
Speaker 3: to me, like songwriting is about making something that people
Speaker 3: relate to. So I think like as much as rap
Speaker 3: is so much about selling yourself and shit, yeah, most
Speaker 3: of these guys are.
Speaker 1: Lying about everything. And then like is art imitating life
Speaker 1: or is life imitating art? Is just like you're just
Speaker 1: doing shit to rap about it.
Speaker 3: So instead, I just want to write about things that
Speaker 3: make people feel an emotion that I want to convey
Speaker 3: and shit, So I'm not really worried about like a
Speaker 3: street pass or some shit.
Speaker 1: I'm not saying I shot someone on No Strin Avenue
Speaker 1: or some crazy shit like that. That's too specific. When
Speaker 1: you start doing shit like that, think that that's the
Speaker 1: lame as fuck. But like to make yourself like do
Speaker 1: you watch wrestling, No, But I'm familiar with like sort
Speaker 1: of the idea of like it's there's a theater of Coroto.
Speaker 3: Yeah, like the whole thing is like you got like
Speaker 3: really talented wrestlers. You got guys who are technical wrestlers.
Speaker 3: You got guys who are body you know because they
Speaker 3: lift weights and shit. And then you got like people
Speaker 3: who are good on the mic. And some people like
Speaker 3: Stone Cold or The Rock are like excellent or like
Speaker 3: the Undertaker, they have a whole persona you buy in too.
Speaker 3: But like Mick Foley literally is nothing like the characters
Speaker 3: he portrays, but he's one of the best wrestlers of
Speaker 3: all time. He said that the dude love is actually
Speaker 3: the person he wishes he was in high school. So
Speaker 3: he's like a kind of like a hippie ladies man. Yeah,
Speaker 3: and he's just like because I was never able to
Speaker 3: do that, I just decided that I wanted to become
Speaker 3: that and I can admire that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and he was a sick wrestler. So do you, like,
Speaker 1: do you relate to that at all?
Speaker 2: Like do you like, have you created a persona that
Speaker 2: is like what you aspire to be in your your
Speaker 2: personal line.
Speaker 3: Usually you don't give yourself your own nickname. I think
Speaker 3: a nickname is given to you by other people. But
Speaker 3: I made my own because the architect is from the Matrix.
Speaker 3: But like I kind of see, he likes all white,
Speaker 3: so do I. I'm also Jamaican and we were all
Speaker 3: white a lot. And yeah, he was like looking at
Speaker 3: like ninety screens or like eight hundred screens. It's like
Speaker 3: the Magnavot's commercial where you're sitting when he's sitting in
Speaker 3: the chair and like the music was playing. I just
Speaker 3: imagine myself to be that person and like the architect man,
Speaker 3: like I like to make stuff, and like people trust
Speaker 3: me for some reason. I don't really don't know why
Speaker 3: people trust me so much, but they're just like hell, yeah,
Speaker 3: and you know why.
Speaker 1: People trust you? You could you pay it?
Speaker 2: You can't peck it to anything, guess.
Speaker 1: Because I'm real.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but I still when an architect makes something right,
Speaker 3: you got to give him like millions of dollars.
Speaker 1: Like you don't just be like, yo, here's like four
Speaker 1: hundred dollars. Make this shit for me. It's a lot
Speaker 1: of money. And like music is the same way, because
Speaker 1: you don't get time back.
Speaker 3: If somebody spends two hours with me, they may not
Speaker 3: pay me anything, but we now that it's get the
Speaker 3: time back.
Speaker 1: That means that you spent millions of dollars technically with
Speaker 1: me mm.
Speaker 2: Hm oh, because the time is worth more than time.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so I'm an architect because of that, I guess.
Speaker 2: I mean it takes a lot of time to make
Speaker 2: buildings too.
Speaker 3: It's a long time. You have to trust that person
Speaker 3: too to fuck it up. The blueprint could be like
Speaker 3: the same thing as like starting to write a song.
Speaker 1: Do you have this might be a stupid question, ask
Speaker 1: a stupid question.
Speaker 8: You have.
Speaker 1: A favorite architect? Marie Kondo? Sorry Marie Kndo is somebody
Speaker 1: wrote a book. She's like a line to Dow t
Speaker 1: a d A. Oh, I'm gonna go with this right now,
Speaker 1: and a d A.
Speaker 2: To Dow and a Japanese architect there you go, whose
Speaker 2: approach to architecture.
Speaker 1: Is known as critical regionalism. I don't know what that means,
Speaker 1: but I'm Google imaging his buildings. These are some cool buildings,
Speaker 1: some cool buildings. You know, this guy is? What the
Speaker 1: fuck is that this guy is?
Speaker 2: This guy is just slowly becoming my favorite architecture as well,
Speaker 2: kind of by default. That's good to know, all right,
Speaker 2: I feel like anyone's listening to this. If you're listening
Speaker 2: to this right now, check out to Dow and oh.
Speaker 2: If you want to get into architecture.
Speaker 1: Marie Condo, I think is the person that the art
Speaker 1: of the art of Well, they rhyme, so I guess
Speaker 1: it fucked me up. It was like Japanese minimalism.
Speaker 3: I think, like I could fold a shirt if you
Speaker 3: had a shirt right now, I could fold a shirt
Speaker 3: very very neatly and maybe like four seconds.
Speaker 1: I also worked in retail for a long time, so
Speaker 1: I had to lie to do that.
Speaker 2: What's star.
Speaker 3: Abercrombie and Fitch and Fitch. That fucking sucked, man, all right,
Speaker 3: bet that sucked.
Speaker 1: I had to wear I was a thirty two waist. Yeah.
Speaker 3: And the dude there's like a stylist that tells you
Speaker 3: what to wear, and he's like he actually is quite
Speaker 3: just about your style, right, And he says like, well,
Speaker 3: what kind of shirts you wear? And this is like
Speaker 3: I wear extra large now, but like then I probably
Speaker 3: was on my two X, like extra baggy ship.
Speaker 1: I probably was like yo X two X. He was like,
Speaker 1: I'm put you in a medium. I'm like whoa. Then
Speaker 1: he's like what he wanted he wanted to get. He
Speaker 1: wanted wanted the Aple Prombie look.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and then he's like, all right, what sized pants
Speaker 3: you wear, I said, thirty two, thirty three. He said,
Speaker 3: I'm gonna put you into twenty nine, oh dear god.
Speaker 3: And then you have to wear thong slippers with you.
Speaker 3: You have to get your feet done because your feet
Speaker 3: all day. And the last part you're not allowed to
Speaker 3: have any facial hair. Really, you can't have sideburns. Bro,
Speaker 3: I look like absolute shit.
Speaker 2: Ah yeah, I'm never going back to not having fished.
Speaker 3: I don't want to see I kind of look like
Speaker 3: Tracy Morgan if I would have shaved my fishal hair.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, because that big like space between my nose
Speaker 3: and on top lip kind of like him.
Speaker 2: So so you could, you could, but you still retain
Speaker 2: you got something out of that experience because to this day,
Speaker 2: you can still fold T shirts.
Speaker 3: I still fold well without the little cardboard thing they like,
Speaker 3: use a cardboard cheat.
Speaker 1: I've seen that. I don't even need that. Damn. You
Speaker 1: really are like an architect. Architecture there it is. I
Speaker 1: love that to Dow And he's eighty years old and
Speaker 1: he's still he's still alive. He's still alive. Eighty eighties, eighties, eighties, eighties.
Speaker 1: It's too many, it's too many years.
Speaker 2: Hey, we have Jimmy who wants to talk about butts
Speaker 2: and why there's an obsession with butts and pop culture.
Speaker 1: How do you feel about this topic? Let's go but wow,
Speaker 1: Hi Jimmy.
Speaker 7: Hey, what's going on y'all?
Speaker 6: Hey Jimmy, Hey, glad to be on the show.
Speaker 1: Right on?
Speaker 7: Okay, just taken there.
Speaker 1: I could hear myself, but oh yeah, I wanted to
Speaker 1: take it.
Speaker 2: You you sounded like you were shuffling papers or getting
Speaker 2: your life.
Speaker 1: You were doing something. I was waiting for me to
Speaker 1: be settled.
Speaker 4: Uh I was.
Speaker 7: I think I was going through some plants.
Speaker 8: But no, I'm not.
Speaker 1: You think you were going to.
Speaker 7: I have some plants in my room, and I think
Speaker 7: I was brustling through them.
Speaker 1: You think you're okay, did you make that up?
Speaker 4: All right?
Speaker 7: So no, I actually have some plants in my room.
Speaker 1: But you think you are Were you or were you think? Like,
Speaker 1: were you touching them when you answered the phone?
Speaker 7: Yeah?
Speaker 4: They were.
Speaker 7: They were in my company for sure. It was right
Speaker 7: next to them.
Speaker 1: So what I mean?
Speaker 7: Also, I didn't answer the phone that you guys.
Speaker 1: Just fair enough, Jimmy. It says here that you want
Speaker 1: to talk about I didn't.
Speaker 7: Mean to get off on such a Okay, go ahead,
Speaker 7: go ahead, you.
Speaker 1: Go ahead, Jimmy.
Speaker 2: It says here that you want to talk about butts.
Speaker 2: It says you're confused. That's the word you use, confusion.
Speaker 2: It says you're confused about why there is an obsession
Speaker 2: in pop culture about butts.
Speaker 1: And you know what I want to let you I
Speaker 1: I could fire off on this. I got a lot
Speaker 1: for this.
Speaker 2: Because I got a lot for this, I want to
Speaker 2: I want to hear what you have to say first.
Speaker 1: Jimmy.
Speaker 7: Yeah, I'm calling it because you know, thanks for having me,
Speaker 7: mister Gecko and mister the Architect. I really I appreciate,
Speaker 7: uh my time here on this pedestal. I don't necessarily
Speaker 7: have something exactly to say, but I have a general
Speaker 7: confusion these days with why people are so obsessed with asses.
Speaker 7: But experior is glee, is acciments, whatever you want to
Speaker 7: call it. I'll say personally, I am a boob man,
Speaker 7: but I've always looked at butts. I don't I don't
Speaker 7: keep my eyes off of them. I do, I think
Speaker 7: some sense to me enjoys. But but these days, you know,
Speaker 7: the butt is in its prime. You know you see
Speaker 7: a lot of I would say specifically.
Speaker 11: Women uh in in you know, the media or whatever
Speaker 11: that are.
Speaker 7: You know, the butt is the prominent part of their
Speaker 7: what their their their image. You know, they're they're thing
Speaker 7: that they put out there. You know, it's a big
Speaker 7: thing about.
Speaker 1: You're saying, You're saying, the but is the brand with
Speaker 1: your kids. But and you say you have a problem
Speaker 1: with that? Is uh what what? What was it you're
Speaker 1: saying about it that you're confused?
Speaker 7: I think I don't have an issue. I don't have
Speaker 7: an issue with it. It's more that I just really
Speaker 7: just want to have a conversation with the people who
Speaker 7: maybe had a point of view different from minds.
Speaker 2: So this is an this is I feel like, I
Speaker 2: feel like this is this is an observation more than
Speaker 2: that issue. It's a it's an observation that that that
Speaker 2: Jimmy has made. He woke up and he was like,
Speaker 2: wait a minute, why why are people so obsessed with butts?
Speaker 2: Why are people people are forming entire corporations and and
Speaker 2: they're propelling ideas into the universe with the power of
Speaker 2: of of bus And you know, look, I agree. I
Speaker 2: think I think pop culture, I think a lot of
Speaker 2: music as well. Ever, is obsessed with sex, Like every
Speaker 2: song is kind of about fucking, at least a lot
Speaker 2: of them, a lot of that.
Speaker 1: What do you think, Eric I hard he said he
Speaker 1: likes breasts more than ass. He did say that, I
Speaker 1: totally am not an agreeance with that. I think the
Speaker 1: butt is like a girl's ass is like one of
Speaker 1: my favorite things. Ever, I can't explain it very sweet.
Speaker 1: I can't explain it. It's a it's it's it's put
Speaker 1: it this way.
Speaker 3: For me, a nice, natural, voluptuous woman is probably my
Speaker 3: It is one of the most beautiful things that I
Speaker 3: could possibly witness my eyes on. And the first thing
Speaker 3: I'm going to look at is her face. That's just
Speaker 3: because the kind of guy I am. I'm not a
Speaker 3: total pig. But when she turns around, I hope something
Speaker 3: is back.
Speaker 1: There, you know.
Speaker 3: And the breast, to me, I just hope she has
Speaker 3: breasts that are healthy enough to produce milk for a child.
Speaker 1: They don't have to be very large, just functional and fun.
Speaker 2: That I mean, that's what when when we're focusing on
Speaker 2: look the biolog when we're getting downto the biological drive,
Speaker 2: I mean, that's why people like breasts because there's some
Speaker 2: we have the thing where like there's milk in there,
Speaker 2: nourishing elements, and it's consciously getting to it.
Speaker 7: But you know what I think I think that. Do
Speaker 7: you think I'm thinking like, oh, there's a lot of
Speaker 7: milk in there. I would like to have that.
Speaker 2: I think, yeah, I think that when you're looking at
Speaker 2: a boobs, I think that that's what you are subconsciously,
Speaker 2: dry is driving you.
Speaker 8: But but we're not even.
Speaker 1: I feel like we're not even talking about but we're
Speaker 1: not even.
Speaker 2: This is the topic is not necessarily like anyone's personal
Speaker 2: preferences or anything.
Speaker 1: This is about popology. It's about society.
Speaker 2: Okay, why is society so focused on on on butts?
Speaker 7: Can I say one thing?
Speaker 1: You can say one thing?
Speaker 7: So you bring up that point of like maybe there's
Speaker 7: some sort of subconscious desire for the milk inside of breast.
Speaker 7: You know, when you see large breasts, do you think
Speaker 7: there's a lot of milk?
Speaker 1: Sure?
Speaker 7: I just does it work the same when you see
Speaker 7: a large ass.
Speaker 1: Like you think there's what, it's a lot of poop
Speaker 1: in there, a lot of shit?
Speaker 6: Like, what are you like?
Speaker 1: I don't think they work the same.
Speaker 3: I think that, Uh, sometimes I can admit that if
Speaker 3: an ass is too big, I say that booty probably
Speaker 3: smell Mmm.
Speaker 1: I'm not that guy. It's just like, whoa damn that
Speaker 1: ass is fat. I love it.
Speaker 3: I'm sometimes the guy like, can all of that ass
Speaker 3: actually fit on a toilet seat without smearing? Sometimes it's
Speaker 3: so big, you know, it's pretty sweaty's it's it's not
Speaker 3: only just like satire.
Speaker 1: It's not just like wow, that's a big butt, but
Speaker 1: like it has to be the right butt, you know.
Speaker 3: But I think pop culture we love butts because you know,
Speaker 3: the body has phases. You know, if you look at
Speaker 3: any music video from the nineties and shit, the girls
Speaker 3: that with video Vixen's always change.
Speaker 1: You give it ten years.
Speaker 3: Those girls that were in the Vixen the videos from
Speaker 3: the nineties, they're not in the two thousands videos anymore
Speaker 3: because their bodies.
Speaker 1: The world wants a different body. People was really into
Speaker 1: like the has always had a fascination with God, but
Speaker 1: to some degree.
Speaker 7: But what about like the people in that in that
Speaker 7: industry have been on the cutting edge as far as
Speaker 7: like butsco.
Speaker 1: I think it's just women.
Speaker 3: I think hip hop is obsessed with women and whatever
Speaker 3: beautiful woman is the popular most popular women at the time,
Speaker 3: is whether it's halle Berry's and ship like that. That's
Speaker 3: the that's what dictates what people like. And then they
Speaker 3: try to get like the off brand version of the
Speaker 3: hottest chick in the videos.
Speaker 2: So so it's a universal human experience everybody. Now I'm
Speaker 2: not gonna say everybody, because you know, look, shout out,
Speaker 2: shout out to the aces out there, shout out to
Speaker 2: these but everybody at one point in their life has
Speaker 2: been extremely horny. It's it's it's more or less a
Speaker 2: shared human experience, and that's you know. I think a
Speaker 2: reason why why pop culture is so obsessed with sex
Speaker 2: is because you know, anything that is a universal human
Speaker 2: experiences is uh is relatable and you.
Speaker 1: Can exploit it.
Speaker 3: So when you add money to it and a dollar sign,
Speaker 3: and I mean most things have sex. I would see
Speaker 3: even when you go to like Europe, man, do you
Speaker 3: see ads with like naked women in the street sometimes
Speaker 3: or like very revealing in a way different way than
Speaker 3: America consumes that stuff.
Speaker 1: In America, we would see that and be like that
Speaker 1: girl need to put a shirt on.
Speaker 3: And and and you go to like France or something
Speaker 3: like that, there's like a fucking advertisement of a woman
Speaker 3: with like a cologne or a perfume bottle and she's
Speaker 3: like naked, and no one is like, oh man, people in.
Speaker 7: Europe that are kind of like why are we showing
Speaker 7: all this skin everywhere? You know, like, you don't think
Speaker 7: there's people like that in Europe just sort of the
Speaker 7: people who have who have the power.
Speaker 3: Are or I don't know, no, bro, I don't think that, Broberal.
Speaker 2: Listen, Jimmy, do you feel as though do you feel
Speaker 2: as though you got something out of this call? Do
Speaker 2: you feel as though this was this was this was
Speaker 2: a positive experience for you?
Speaker 7: Well, I just wanted to I actually wanted to hear
Speaker 7: your opinion just real quick. Are you are you an
Speaker 7: ass man? Are you a boob man?
Speaker 9: Like?
Speaker 7: Where's your head at?
Speaker 1: I'm a man of the spirits? Answer, I'm a man
Speaker 1: of the soul. I'm a man of of of the
Speaker 1: passion that a man of?
Speaker 4: Uh?
Speaker 1: Did I say spirit? I'm trying.
Speaker 2: I'm basically I'm like how many different words for? How
Speaker 2: many different words can a passion question? But Jimmy, thank
Speaker 2: you very much for calling, and I wish you good
Speaker 2: luck and uh, the rest of your exploits across the universe.
Speaker 7: Yeah you guys too, you know, like have a good
Speaker 7: one guy, take care of.
Speaker 9: There.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, I liked Jimmy.
Speaker 2: I you know, I could tell he was very nervous.
Speaker 2: And I and I and I don't know what I
Speaker 2: don't I don't know what to say, because here's the
Speaker 2: thing that, here's what I've learned.
Speaker 1: You cannot.
Speaker 2: Argue with the central nervous system. Have you ever like
Speaker 2: you've ever been like nervous and you're like trying to
Speaker 2: mentally use logic as to why you cannot try.
Speaker 1: To diffuse your can't do it, doesn't worry. So part
Speaker 1: of me is like, Okay, what can I tell you?
Speaker 2: What can I do to Jimmy? What can I How
Speaker 2: can I make Jimmy less nervous? And I'm like, can
Speaker 2: I even do that?
Speaker 1: Then? You know, I think if that was a speech
Speaker 1: he was reading in front of a podium, we'd be
Speaker 1: able to hear the paper wrestling in his hand. Yeah yeah,
Speaker 1: but shout out to him. He was he was nervous,
Speaker 1: but he did it anyway. Stop. He wanted us to
Speaker 1: know that he likes breast a lot. And you know
Speaker 1: what that was his goal, and by god, he achieved it.
Speaker 1: Everybody knows now, good fucking job, bro, Jimmy. He triumphed
Speaker 1: the breast man. Jimmy, the breast man somebody on his tombstone. Listen, Eric,
Speaker 1: while we're at sort of like a like a halfway point,
Speaker 1: you know, is there any thing you would like to
Speaker 1: tell the people I think you're working on project wise,
Speaker 1: if you want to plug if and I'll give you
Speaker 1: the opportunity to do it again at the end. But
Speaker 1: what's what's what's going on with your ara? I was
Speaker 1: just at the Grammys. That was awesome.
Speaker 3: Man, Vegas is fucking crazy. That was in insane experience,
Speaker 3: just being around so many artists that deserve to be there.
Speaker 1: You know.
Speaker 3: As a little boy, I used to watch the Grammys
Speaker 3: especially and and see like Michael Jackson and like all
Speaker 3: my favorite artists Stevie Wonder, you know, and they'd win
Speaker 3: these awards, and.
Speaker 1: I really didn't understand what what big deal it was.
Speaker 1: I just thought it meant that like you were the ship.
Speaker 1: I didn't understand like you had to really make good music.
Speaker 1: I thought it was just like you have to be popular,
Speaker 1: you know. Well, isn't a lot of.
Speaker 2: Isn't a lot of it about like the personality more
Speaker 2: so than than the music to some degree.
Speaker 3: Maybe to some degree, but I think like the actual
Speaker 3: Like like I remember when Arcade Fire won the Grammy.
Speaker 1: I remember those guys.
Speaker 3: I was really into that. It was like the Suburbs
Speaker 3: or whatever. I was really into the band, and I
Speaker 3: thought they should have won, and they did. I don't
Speaker 3: know how cool they were. I don't know if they
Speaker 3: were cool to anybody, but I know that they made
Speaker 3: an awesome fucking album. And and then also like uh,
Speaker 3: my friend John Gorley from Portugal Demand, they won a
Speaker 3: Grammy for this song feel It Still some years ago,
Speaker 3: and I thought they they deserved it and they're really cool.
Speaker 3: So like there is that mixed bag of like this
Speaker 3: is actually good produced music and good people, and I
Speaker 3: think that's what wins.
Speaker 2: Oh, that's that's that's where you're killing them when you're
Speaker 2: like a fun personality but you're also making good stuff.
Speaker 1: You know, come on, you don't want a boring person
Speaker 1: up there. And I know you went to somebody with
Speaker 1: some zest.
Speaker 2: Did they even hit anyone at the Grammys?
Speaker 8: No?
Speaker 1: Good, thank god, good good good. You don't need any
Speaker 1: more hitting. Let's see, let's see what we got. What's
Speaker 1: the name together? Punched by the stranger. I want to
Speaker 1: say his name is Ricky. I want to say his
Speaker 1: name is Ricky Jesse wan.
Speaker 9: Hello.
Speaker 2: Jesse says here that uh you. It says here that
Speaker 2: you feel bad about being mean to your blind neighbor.
Speaker 2: It says that you would stop by people's houses to
Speaker 2: say hi while you're taking a walk. Well, when you
Speaker 2: got to your blind neighbor's house, you you would avoid
Speaker 2: talking to him.
Speaker 1: What what is what is this situation? Geez?
Speaker 2: You've got going on here?
Speaker 11: In your own words, it got a little mixed up here.
Speaker 2: Okay, please please mixed up in your own words.
Speaker 11: Uh yeah. I had a neighbor, right, and he would
Speaker 11: walk around the neighbor and you could hear his cane
Speaker 11: when he was coming. You could hear the noise of it,
Speaker 11: like guying across the black top.
Speaker 1: Okay, I would right, So when.
Speaker 11: We heard that, we would start trying to be as
Speaker 11: silent as possible. But he would walk past the cars
Speaker 11: and touch the tail lights, and he was able to
Speaker 11: tell whose car it was by the tail light. He
Speaker 11: could tell them, making the model of the car just
Speaker 11: by touching the light. So whenever certain people.
Speaker 7: Were home, he would walk up to the door.
Speaker 1: And try to have a conversation with them, and that's bad.
Speaker 11: Well no, so what was bad was my family as
Speaker 11: a collective would try and be as silent as possible
Speaker 11: so we wouldn't have to have a conversation with them.
Speaker 1: You know what.
Speaker 2: I'd take if we checked the blind aspect of this
Speaker 2: out real quick and there was just a guy walking
Speaker 2: around the neighborhood knocking on people's doors to start talking
Speaker 2: to them for no reason.
Speaker 1: I'm on your side. Yeah, totally get that.
Speaker 11: Okay, we can feel all the better.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't even him being blind. I don't even
Speaker 2: I wouldn't even factor that into this. No, what's this
Speaker 2: guying doing?
Speaker 1: Yeah, like what's going on? Yeah?
Speaker 11: Sometimes okay, So by our front door, we had a window,
Speaker 11: and uh, instead of curtains there, my stepmom thought it
Speaker 11: was like a great idea to put like shells on
Speaker 11: a string going down all the way and that was
Speaker 11: the curtain basically, So there was no people on the
Speaker 11: door either, So to look out the window you had
Speaker 11: to like open the shells to see them. But sometimes
Speaker 11: they would clink together and he would definitely hear me
Speaker 11: trying to see.
Speaker 10: Him through the window.
Speaker 1: Oh my god, hmmm do you think do you think
Speaker 1: he was offended?
Speaker 11: He must have been, because then he would like, I
Speaker 11: don't know, only take a few more seconds and then
Speaker 11: walk away.
Speaker 1: Let me ask one let me ask one more thing.
Speaker 1: Have you ever talked to this guy? Right? Yeah? Because
Speaker 1: I would give him a chance once. He might be
Speaker 1: really cool. He might be really cool. Did he scare you? Yeah?
Speaker 11: So I was like, I don't know, between five and
Speaker 11: I don't know, fourteen, maybe, no, I'm younger than that,
Speaker 11: probably five and eleven, and uh, everybody a conversation with him.
Speaker 1: But me, you know what I mean.
Speaker 11: I was too young to like kind of even be involved,
Speaker 11: Like either my dad or my brothers would carry the conversation.
Speaker 2: I could just kind of hide. Are you okay? I mean,
Speaker 2: let's talk about you now.
Speaker 1: Are you in general?
Speaker 2: Are you a social guy or would you would would
Speaker 2: you consider yourself an extrovert?
Speaker 1: Introvert? Ambivert? What kind of vert?
Speaker 11: Are you?
Speaker 1: What's that? One day? Amby vert? What the hell is that?
Speaker 1: As a little bit of both Wow, a little lovert?
Speaker 11: I'll say, yeah, yeah, right there, whatever that was right there.
Speaker 11: I think I'm that little gotta be nice as possible
Speaker 11: for like interactions now, like when I go to the
Speaker 11: grocery store.
Speaker 6: I try to make it personal, but.
Speaker 11: Still I find myself like walking into work and not.
Speaker 4: Saying hello to people.
Speaker 1: Sounds like it sounds like you don't like talking to
Speaker 1: the people in general, though.
Speaker 11: Except for us, Yeah, yeah, I mean the people I'm
Speaker 11: close to I talk a lot, we have good conversations.
Speaker 11: But for other people, I don't know.
Speaker 1: What if I told you that I'm trying to avoid conversation.
Speaker 1: I guess what if I told you that I'm the
Speaker 1: same way?
Speaker 11: Ah, it makes feel comfortable, better.
Speaker 3: Better, I'm lying, but I do I sometimes sometimes sometimes
Speaker 3: that's the problem. Some times I'd like to be quiet,
Speaker 3: and I think there's a lot of peace in quiet.
Speaker 3: But you know what, a lot of people think that
Speaker 3: when you're quiet, you're upset. And I think there's a
Speaker 3: misconception that just because you don't like to speak, so
Speaker 3: you have an issue. Sometimes I don't like to speak
Speaker 3: because too much we can get you into a lot
Speaker 3: of shit, and I don't like shit. I don't like
Speaker 3: getting into too many problems. So if anything, I could
Speaker 3: tell you. I mean, wanting to avoid conversation.
Speaker 1: Conversation is not really bad, but when you do have
Speaker 1: conversations with people need to be meaningful. How about that? Okay?
Speaker 7: I like that a lot.
Speaker 11: Yeah, trying to make everything out of the interactions.
Speaker 2: I want to have, Jesse, is there anything else that
Speaker 2: you want to say to the people, or to Eric
Speaker 2: the architect, or to me the Gecko guy, or to
Speaker 2: yourself before we go?
Speaker 11: Now, man, love the stream Eric Archa gect, super dope.
Speaker 1: Let everything put out Archa gect. That's awesomely shit, Hey.
Speaker 2: Thanks for calling Jesse.
Speaker 1: That was sick the Archa GECT.
Speaker 2: I would I would remove the tea and I would
Speaker 2: just say, Eric the Archa gect.
Speaker 1: Did he did he add the tea? I couldn't tell you.
Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't know.
Speaker 2: I like.
Speaker 1: I like Eric the Arka. Get Arca GECT. That's my
Speaker 1: new ship. Beautiful. I fuck with that?
Speaker 2: Wait I I I try to have like a preach
Speaker 2: guest wow, like the Gecko version of their of their name,
Speaker 2: whatever it is.
Speaker 1: I like Archa GECT. Casey, Howdy, Hello, Sorry, no, what
Speaker 1: what do you?
Speaker 2: What are you?
Speaker 1: Sorry? Sorry?
Speaker 9: Okay, okay, So Hey, I just wanted to talk to
Speaker 9: you out my half.
Speaker 2: Okay, what about it? We were actually we were just
Speaker 2: kind of talking about talking about it is what Please
Speaker 2: join our conversation.
Speaker 9: Oh, yes, thank you.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 9: So I am twenty three years old, so pretty young,
Speaker 9: i'd say, And I have had a tear in my
Speaker 9: ass twenty fifteen and it's leading pretty good amount, like
Speaker 9: on and off.
Speaker 8: But like sometimes you.
Speaker 9: Just look down there's just like a nice little like
Speaker 9: cool blood. Yeah, good stuff.
Speaker 1: And when you uh, when you wipe, is there ever
Speaker 1: like you look at the paper and there's a little
Speaker 1: bit of blood?
Speaker 9: Oh yeah, yeah, definitely, definitely.
Speaker 1: Okay.
Speaker 2: I don't know why I asked that in a way
Speaker 2: where I was like it sounded like I was gonna
Speaker 2: have a diagnosis for you, but like Gregory House.
Speaker 1: Yeah, was like what am I gonna do with this information?
Speaker 2: But so it's so look, it's says here that you
Speaker 2: need a colonoscopy, but you're scared to get one. Why
Speaker 2: are you scared to get one?
Speaker 9: Like A, I don't want to scope up my ass.
Speaker 9: I really don't want anything other than uh, something found
Speaker 9: like up my ass, like noth anyway, Like my mom
Speaker 9: just got to pull anoscopy, like she had to shit
Speaker 9: her brains out like twenty four hours, Like I don't
Speaker 9: have to take off of work just to shit and
Speaker 9: then get a scope with my ass like and then
Speaker 9: the health insurance.
Speaker 2: Oh, like the order of those are interesting, Yeah, the priority,
Speaker 2: like I would have to take off work and that's uh,
Speaker 2: and then the other things we were saying, But can
Speaker 2: I real quick, when you're talking about having something fall
Speaker 2: like up your ass, does that not make I feel
Speaker 2: like that would that would fucking tear the hole and
Speaker 2: make that sounds fuck horrifically painful.
Speaker 1: It's already hurting.
Speaker 9: Yeah, to be fair, I had these pairs and when
Speaker 9: I was uh, not sexually active at all, So it
Speaker 9: wasn't the first thing that like.
Speaker 1: For it.
Speaker 9: It just kind of doesn't help either.
Speaker 3: Are you drinking enough water? Because maybe you're not drinking
Speaker 3: enough water? And as a stool is pushing its way
Speaker 3: through your colon, when it's coming through your sphincter, it's
Speaker 3: actually ripping the lining of your asshole and that's why
Speaker 3: it's it's bleeding.
Speaker 2: That that's a really like in terms of like giving
Speaker 2: your best shot, I was advice that was pretty good.
Speaker 1: I was trying. That was better than not what I
Speaker 1: could have come up with.
Speaker 2: Have you tried you tried that? If you tried drinking
Speaker 2: more water?
Speaker 9: You know, I really should. That's probably a good tip.
Speaker 2: How often do you how long? How long do you
Speaker 2: sleep when you when you go to to get eight
Speaker 2: hours a night? Maybe that's because because if there's a tear,
Speaker 2: you have a bandit, you need.
Speaker 1: To break feel it, maybe you heal, like uh, you're
Speaker 1: not Wolverine, you know, is it a problem where.
Speaker 2: Like okay, so you're it's resting, it's starting to heal,
Speaker 2: but then you have to take a ship, or you're
Speaker 2: you have anal sex or you do you do something
Speaker 2: just like the Wholes about the clothes, but then something happens,
Speaker 2: then happens, it comes back open.
Speaker 9: Yeah, so that's been the pattern. That's like I was,
Speaker 9: I don't know, maybe like sixteen, I guess I had
Speaker 9: a peanut and it literally ripped my ass.
Speaker 1: Open like peanuts, but like, yeah, did she say a peanut?
Speaker 2: I think she said a peanut ripped her ass open?
Speaker 1: What the planters or cashews eat peanut? The shell was on, man,
Speaker 1: I don't remember salted.
Speaker 2: Roasted salted peanut ripping a hole mask and then the
Speaker 2: peanut goes in first, and then the residue of the
Speaker 2: salt goes this problem.
Speaker 1: Really, Yeah, the salt would definitely agitate the wound.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know, maybe I just like up.
Speaker 3: So it sounds like if if you ask me, I
Speaker 3: think you should drink more water. You should actually try
Speaker 3: a cleanse. So maybe don't eat hamburgers and fucking really
Speaker 3: like meaty things. You need to like strip it down
Speaker 3: to smoothies and things that will slide through your ass,
Speaker 3: you know what I'm saying. And then you might want
Speaker 3: to take something like a ce trauma, which is like
Speaker 3: a probiotic kind of thing that gets your belly going
Speaker 3: and it'll help your stomach digest a little bit, and
Speaker 3: then when you shit, it'll be mostly.
Speaker 1: Like less solid and it'll be more water.
Speaker 3: And then you just do that for a day and
Speaker 3: maybe that will won't be the colonoscopy, but it'll be
Speaker 3: something that will help you.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 9: I mean the reason why they want to cool off
Speaker 9: the face because they said, like the rist that the
Speaker 9: doctor actually saw, like physically saw in my ass, wasn't
Speaker 9: that big causing.
Speaker 7: So much leaving.
Speaker 9: That might be something like farther up the tunnel. That's
Speaker 9: what they're actually searching for. But like that wouldn't hurt
Speaker 9: either if I were to, you know, actually take care.
Speaker 1: Of my body. Did Did they say it was hemorrhoids?
Speaker 1: Oh no, it's possibility. Not it's not. Wow anal fish,
Speaker 1: you know what.
Speaker 2: I have had an anal fisher before. WOW had an
Speaker 2: anal fission. Not as severe as yours, because mine didn't
Speaker 2: last for seven years. It lasted for like a painful week.
Speaker 2: But look at look at me now. I just if
Speaker 2: I can be like maybe some kind of a success
Speaker 2: story for you to find hope with you and I.
Speaker 2: I had an antal fissure, and you know, I turned
Speaker 2: out decently as a human being.
Speaker 1: I think, so there's hope for you as well.
Speaker 8: You know.
Speaker 2: Look, say what you will about two geckos, but it's
Speaker 2: more cheaper than health insurance and going to see a doctor.
Speaker 1: I want to see a doctor.
Speaker 3: I think we we we provided a lot of personal
Speaker 3: experience and also just winging it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know if you even need to go
Speaker 2: to the doctor. I think I think you're okay.
Speaker 1: You're okay. Is there anything else that you want to
Speaker 1: say to the people of the computer, or to Eric
Speaker 1: the architect, or do a Gecko casey before we go.
Speaker 9: I'm a little too hard to think of anything.
Speaker 8: But thanks for having me of course.
Speaker 1: Excellent. Wow, that's gonna stay with me.
Speaker 2: Have you had any medical issues lately?
Speaker 1: No, thank god. I had a hernia before. What exactly
Speaker 1: is that hernia?
Speaker 3: At least the one that I had was basically, you know,
Speaker 3: your body is has these like your growing area has
Speaker 3: like these like little holes, and like your stomach basically
Speaker 3: is supposed to be where it's supposed to be located
Speaker 3: in your stomach, you know, in your body.
Speaker 1: But people have hemorrhoids. Excuse me, people who have I
Speaker 1: feel like I forgot the name of it. Hernia. Hernia, yea,
Speaker 1: people have hernias.
Speaker 3: It's like the lining of that kind of comes through
Speaker 3: these holes, a certain like opening that's in your growing
Speaker 3: and it's really uncomfortable because you can't really sit down
Speaker 3: or do anything active because it's like a purging part
Speaker 3: of your body and it's like some of your insides
Speaker 3: are trying to come out.
Speaker 1: It's really comes horribles fucking suck.
Speaker 2: So like if you don't watch it, there's like all
Speaker 2: of you there's like your lower intestine and your brain everything.
Speaker 1: Just is fucking terrible and you gotta like get surgery
Speaker 1: to like shut it back up there. So I had
Speaker 1: to do that. You got surgery. I did. How was that?
Speaker 1: It's fine? I feel like, uh, what was her name? Casey? Casey.
Speaker 2: I feel like Casey has something to worry about. I
Speaker 2: feel like you should go get the colon ask just
Speaker 2: go and do with this. I'm gonna understand the reluctancy.
Speaker 2: You have to drink like this fucking gross liquid that
Speaker 2: my stepdad did, and.
Speaker 1: Like when you get forty, it's like mandatorious.
Speaker 2: Yeah, if you're a certain age, I'm lucky. I'm I
Speaker 2: don't have to get one for a while. But it's
Speaker 2: it's in every If you're a man listening to this,
Speaker 2: I think it's I think it's a men.
Speaker 1: It's a man thing thing. It's a prostate thing, the
Speaker 1: prostate thing.
Speaker 11: Man.
Speaker 2: We really know a lot about medical stuff, more than
Speaker 2: I getscribed.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah for sure, Like I feel like
Speaker 1: a medicine man. Hey, how do you feel great? Beautiful?
Speaker 1: How do you feel? I feel good too, I feel excellent.
Speaker 2: It's nice to be underwater. You're the first guest that
Speaker 2: I've done underwater with. Usually we're in the sky or
Speaker 2: the forest.
Speaker 1: But I like being underwater Jamaican too.
Speaker 2: Is that?
Speaker 1: Is that a Jamaican thing? Being in the under the sea?
Speaker 1: Sebastian Jamaican? Hell? Yeah, oh shuit, Sebastian is Jamaican as fun, Bro,
Speaker 1: do you have? Do you know all the words to
Speaker 1: under No? I just know he's Jamaican under the sea.
Speaker 1: That's the only part I know under the sea.
Speaker 2: You do you know any you know any lyric of
Speaker 2: the song except under this?
Speaker 1: I don't even I barely remember the movie that. Well,
Speaker 1: I just know he's Jamaican. Well, I think that's an
Speaker 1: important thing to like cool Runnings. It's not a good
Speaker 1: Jamaican movie. Is that about sledding? Yeah, but it's not.
Speaker 1: Is that good Jamaican movie? Like a snow movie? Yeah,
Speaker 1: they're like a Bob sledding team. Is it snow in Jamaica?
Speaker 9: No?
Speaker 1: Hell, that is a bad Jamaica movie. It's a bad
Speaker 1: Jamaican movie. A good movie would Shatas was that Shata
Speaker 1: a Shata is a gangster in Jamaica. Oh really? Yeah?
Speaker 1: So this movie is about like the gangsters in Jamaica.
Speaker 1: Have you have you like been to Jamaica? Yeah? I
Speaker 1: went last year in August with my dad my family.
Speaker 1: It was fucking cool. Man. It was like being able
Speaker 1: to drink and ship. The last time I went there,
Speaker 1: I was so young. I wasn't drinking or smoking. So
Speaker 1: that was like a vibe like family that my aunt,
Speaker 1: so my aunt. I went to the house my dad
Speaker 1: was raised in and ship. Oh no, I was here.
Speaker 1: His family grew up in Jamaica. Yeah, that's nice, that's cool.
Speaker 1: Where's your family from?
Speaker 7: Uh?
Speaker 1: I know we're Jewish. I was part of a sator.
Speaker 1: Once you went to a sator, what'd you think? It's
Speaker 1: fucking awesome? Yeah. You fucking like search for the office
Speaker 1: comen and man.
Speaker 3: Add a yalla coan and shout out Jeff because that's
Speaker 3: why my homie from college I was Jewish, and he
Speaker 3: was like, dude, you ever been part of one?
Speaker 1: And I was like, now let's go. And I went
Speaker 1: with his whole family and there's a lot of food. Man,
Speaker 1: did you read from the Hagadah?
Speaker 9: No?
Speaker 1: Someone did?
Speaker 8: Though?
Speaker 7: What what?
Speaker 9: What?
Speaker 1: What the fuck else did we do? Oh?
Speaker 2: With the did you dip celery in salt water? No,
Speaker 2: is that customary. It's because I'm trying to think of
Speaker 2: someone else.
Speaker 1: We ate a lot of food. It was like different,
Speaker 1: like you eat like a little bit of this thing,
Speaker 1: like a bigger plate the thing.
Speaker 2: And then yeah, yeah, yeah, man Chevitz shout out to
Speaker 2: Manischevik sponsor in here grape juice.
Speaker 1: Yeah, grape juice. That's when I was.
Speaker 2: When I went to Hebrew school as a young little
Speaker 2: Jewish boy. That was what I would spill on my
Speaker 2: white polo shirt all the time.
Speaker 1: I was having that, which I don't know if that's
Speaker 1: sacrilegious or not, but no.
Speaker 3: In I grew up a Christian church, but we'd have
Speaker 3: kdem in Christian Church for communion, and I look at
Speaker 3: the bottle and I'm like, this Hebrew in this bottle.
Speaker 1: It's kind of funny. Wait. I thought that the Christian Church.
Speaker 2: I thought they're like it is in in the Jewish
Speaker 2: when we do the Jewish things, they use grape juice
Speaker 2: as wine, like in whatever customary thing, like if it
Speaker 2: requires wine, they'll just use grape juice. But I thought
Speaker 2: that at church they're just like fuck it, let's just
Speaker 2: give the kids wine.
Speaker 1: Not in my church.
Speaker 2: No, now your church they do.
Speaker 1: They do real ones. Grape juice. It was grape juice.
Speaker 1: It was It was the Jewish grape juice.
Speaker 2: Crazy, right, Yeah, I feel like I feel like a
Speaker 2: lot of the cool churches though they're just like the kids.
Speaker 1: The kids do. It's it's not every week and shit.
Speaker 2: Anyway, Jesus' body was not grape juice.
Speaker 1: It was wine. Wait is it the bottle of the blood? Blood?
Speaker 1: The body was that little cheap ass crackers. She never
Speaker 1: had one of those crackers? Are they good? It tastes
Speaker 1: like anything? And he's like, this is the body and
Speaker 1: then it has like a cross in the middle and
Speaker 1: you take your fingers and you snap it in half
Speaker 1: and then you put in your mouth. Can you just
Speaker 1: like go to the supermarket and buy those? Yeah?
Speaker 2: Do you think anyone ever like has that? It's just
Speaker 2: a staple of their pantry, Like they'll sit and.
Speaker 1: Watch TV while they eat the crackers. That's weird. There's
Speaker 1: got to be someone who does that.
Speaker 3: It's got to be at least one person that's like,
Speaker 3: I'm addicted to the little Jesus body technically.
Speaker 1: Right, there's got to be somebody. Somebody's out there.
Speaker 2: I will say, did you have Did you have manza
Speaker 2: at the satory?
Speaker 1: What do you think? Great? Lots of ball? Soup is
Speaker 1: also very good? Well, soup is great. People do not
Speaker 1: like matza. I'm huge mons of fan. I've also had
Speaker 1: good filter fish. I'm not really a big fish fish.
Speaker 1: It's a big What about horse radish?
Speaker 2: There's another big staple of the Sator that I also
Speaker 2: am on. How about that guy with horosis? Do you
Speaker 2: have herosis?
Speaker 1: That sounds like a disease.
Speaker 2: It does sound like a disease like deliver Yes, it
Speaker 2: does sound like a disease, now that you mentioned it.
Speaker 2: But it's a it's an applely nut thing.
Speaker 1: Is it good? Yeah? It is good. You put it,
Speaker 1: You put it on some you put it on manza,
Speaker 1: you need it. I know more than about the Jewish.
Speaker 2: You know more about Jews than I do.
Speaker 1: I know a lot. I didn't realize that till right now.
Speaker 2: You ever, uh, ever go to services or anything you
Speaker 2: ever do? Is that the what is that the most
Speaker 2: Jewish thing you've ever done?
Speaker 1: Yes? The Sator? Yes? Before we okay, we're gonna move
Speaker 1: on for this topic. But have you ever been to
Speaker 1: a bar mitzvah? I feel like I have I can't remember,
Speaker 1: but why wouldn't I at this point?
Speaker 2: Would you, like, like when you were like thirteen, do
Speaker 2: you have any Jewish friends?
Speaker 1: Well, I didn't know Jeff yet, so maybe not. I
Speaker 1: met him when I was like twenty.
Speaker 2: Okay, then yeah, he's probably unless if he was one
Speaker 2: of those kids who's like I never had a bar
Speaker 2: metzvah because my dad doesn't around or whatever.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and then you have a hooking it up. You
Speaker 1: get gifts and ship too, right, you get a lot
Speaker 1: of money, get a lot of money. Yeah, that's the
Speaker 1: whole r. And then they have to you have to
Speaker 1: read the Torah, right, you have to read the Taura.
Speaker 1: Tell me I know, shit, bro, I know you really do. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I know how you really do know? You know what
Speaker 1: you know about Shabbat? What do you know about Shabbat?
Speaker 1: I've heard the name that is that.
Speaker 2: Uh it's uh yeah, we do it every Friday and
Speaker 2: uh there's we light a candle and yes, wine more wine,
Speaker 2: and uh you don't I think if you're really Jewish,
Speaker 2: you don't use electronics. You don't use electronics, right.
Speaker 1: And you don't like push you can't like you can't
Speaker 1: use your hands to like you can't work. Can't Yeah,
Speaker 1: it don't work. Technically, I'm kind of cheating because I'm
Speaker 1: a flat Wish. It's like all Jews and flatbush Hell yeah,
Speaker 1: Flatbish is a Jewish flablish is Caribbean and Jewish. Really
Speaker 1: right now, you're Flatblish right now, I'm on.
Speaker 3: It's literally like every like there's so many like Jewish schools,
Speaker 3: even though we don't go to the same school.
Speaker 1: They're like a school will be like across the street
Speaker 1: from another local school, and it'd be like a Jewish.
Speaker 2: School where the Jews in the Caribbeans. Do they like
Speaker 2: get along, were they like hanging out? Do they kind
Speaker 2: of stick to their own thing?
Speaker 3: I'd say, I'd say everybody kind of was. That's how
Speaker 3: New York is. Man, It's like, but we have Pacidic Jews. Ah, yeah,
Speaker 3: so it's a different vibe.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's a different vibe. They don't talk to anyone.
Speaker 2: Placidic Orthodox Jews are a little bit more like sort
Speaker 2: of preserved and like doing their own thing.
Speaker 8: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Like, like I guess I'm a am either.
Speaker 2: A conservative Jew or a reform Jew.
Speaker 1: I'm not.
Speaker 2: I'm not on the opposite side of that spectrum.
Speaker 1: I got you. Yeah, No, orthodox Jews is a whole
Speaker 1: other thing. Have you ever seen the movie Riligulous with
Speaker 1: Bill Maher. I've heard about it, but I've never seen.
Speaker 1: That's a good one. You should check that out.
Speaker 2: How you learned all the stuff about Jews.
Speaker 1: No, it's just a good movie. It's like really enriching
Speaker 1: about like good thinking. He shout exposed religion in a way,
Speaker 1: but he was just asking a bunch of questions and
Speaker 1: it is really a good like watch that in the list.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I wonder if we have any Jewish callers.
Speaker 1: In the now.
Speaker 2: You got me hyped up on all the.
Speaker 1: Juwso I feel amazing, Like fla Bush is Caribbean, and
Speaker 1: I'm telling you it's a big time because I know
Speaker 1: that there's a lot of areas of Brooklyn because I've
Speaker 1: been to Brooklyn.
Speaker 2: I've been to Brooklyn a bunch of times. But I
Speaker 2: know that I've gone there and I've just seen them.
Speaker 1: Like the bagel shops they're kosher, Yeah, kosher bagel shops. True,
Speaker 1: that's true. I could never keep kosher, nor I do.
Speaker 1: Like that's hard. Do you do you do any are you?
Speaker 8: Like?
Speaker 1: Do you have any dietary things? I used to try,
Speaker 1: but it's hard man every time.
Speaker 3: Yeah, in sixth grade when I'm my brother was a
Speaker 3: vegetarian and I wanted to be like like him.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so I would have like soy dogs and shit
Speaker 1: like that. But then I'm like looking at the back
Speaker 1: of the like the nutrition facts, and I'm like, there's
Speaker 1: no meat in this ship. But I'm gonna have a
Speaker 1: heart attack.
Speaker 3: All Yeah, this shit is sodium was like fifteen percent
Speaker 3: like of just pure salt and sometimes like MSG and shit.
Speaker 3: So some people think that they're like healthy because they're vegetarian,
Speaker 3: but you're not even supplying the nutrients you need.
Speaker 2: You know, I'm so heavily between, Like, I'm very heavily
Speaker 2: between two mindsets. One mindset is I need I love
Speaker 2: life and I want to live it as long as possible,
Speaker 2: so I should be have a healthy diet and exercise
Speaker 2: extend my life force. And then another my part of
Speaker 2: my mindset is like, well, one of the things I
Speaker 2: really like in life is eating a lot of Welch's
Speaker 2: fruit snacks.
Speaker 1: The grapes, grape ones, the straway ones are really ones
Speaker 1: are great too, and and and you know.
Speaker 2: And I'm like do I do I deprive myself of
Speaker 2: that part of my life that I really enjoy, which
Speaker 2: is just eating horrible, stupid things to live longer.
Speaker 1: I don't know.
Speaker 2: I haven't made a decision about it. I'm constantly it's hard.
Speaker 3: It's hard, man, because most of the ship that's really
Speaker 3: good for you doesn't taste amazing, and the ship that's
Speaker 3: really bad for you tastes fucking great. Like I don't
Speaker 3: know if any soul food is good for you, like oh,
Speaker 3: like like like a collar greens. Maybe, I guess because
Speaker 3: there's vegetables, but.
Speaker 2: Like, but it's solfur that's like mac and cheese, mac.
Speaker 3: And cheese, fucking collar greens, candy yams. Yeah, fuck, I'm
Speaker 3: getting hungry soul food bro like fried chicken.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, fried chicken. I could never stop eating that.
Speaker 2: I think it's uh the the every time I eat
Speaker 2: fried chicken, it's very good. But afterwards I can really,
Speaker 2: like I really feel my chest tighten a little.
Speaker 1: Birds.
Speaker 3: You know what I do think about sometimes when I'm
Speaker 3: eating chicken wings and I'm like running through them, I'm
Speaker 3: like one, two, I'm like, damn, this is a lot
Speaker 3: of birds.
Speaker 1: I mean, I do think about that. It sucks me up.
Speaker 1: I'm like, damn, I had like sixteen birds today. Ah,
Speaker 1: that's why they're here, Yeah, eating to be eating.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you don't have any chicken here, dude, Like in
Speaker 3: the in the thing, like you have fried chicken here
Speaker 3: where we're like in the ocean?
Speaker 1: Oh like in uh oh like in the in the
Speaker 1: in the studio or like oh oh in the now
Speaker 1: we have fish? You have fish. You have seen Ted.
Speaker 2: Talks Diversity, Ted Talks what talk is.
Speaker 3: There's one episode where this dude has like a camera
Speaker 3: that goes in the ocean really deep, and he shows
Speaker 3: footage of this thing that looks like a turkey.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and it's in the ocean. Man, And he's like,
Speaker 1: that's an alien. I bet that shit tastes delicious. Probably
Speaker 1: I was thinking the same. Deep it looks like a
Speaker 1: turkey too. It must taste great, like a deep sea
Speaker 1: like paranta. M. Do you like seafood? Yeah? I love seafood.
Speaker 1: I love sushi too. Man, shit, I'm getting hungry. Man,
Speaker 1: How would you I love an octopus? Octopuses?
Speaker 2: Now, if I ever met an octopus in real life,
Speaker 2: I would I would.
Speaker 1: Uh like kalamar yeah, fried kamar grilled good to man? Grilled.
Speaker 1: I'll eat almost anything. I kind of want to figure
Speaker 1: out what's going on. Let's see what's going on?
Speaker 2: Andres Andres the giant?
Speaker 1: What's up? Man?
Speaker 2: Am I?
Speaker 1: Am?
Speaker 8: I all this? John?
Speaker 1: Oh God, very loudly. Yes? Are you from Philly?
Speaker 9: How'd you know?
Speaker 1: Because you said Jahn?
Speaker 4: Of course you know why?
Speaker 10: Eric I met you at a Philly show for a
Speaker 10: vacation in Hell, maybe like three years.
Speaker 4: Ago, got the v I P pass.
Speaker 1: Do you remember him? Did you go to the Beat
Speaker 1: and greet? Yeah, okay, I feel like I kind of
Speaker 1: remember that.
Speaker 7: Yeah, yeah, fuck and.
Speaker 11: Maybe yeah I said something to Beach about ODB or something.
Speaker 4: Well, dude, I don't know if I want to talk
Speaker 4: about this now.
Speaker 2: Well listen Andres. It says here, I'll talking about it
Speaker 2: for you and then you can take the reins. It
Speaker 2: says here you had we already did we already.
Speaker 1: Used it already? You already put it out there you want,
Speaker 1: I mean we can, I mean it's already out, but
Speaker 1: we can use it different you want, you want to
Speaker 1: go on a different name from now? Kyle Kyle Kyle.
Speaker 2: It says here that you had sex with a porn
Speaker 2: star that is also dating an acquaintance of yours. It
Speaker 2: says you have absolutely no regrets.
Speaker 1: And you feel no remorse, And you know, I want
Speaker 1: I almost I'm not gonna read off of this thing anymore.
Speaker 2: Tell me your story, tell me your feelings. Let's hear
Speaker 2: from your mouth, not mine. What's going on, Kyle?
Speaker 10: Oh, she was pretty cute and when we got to
Speaker 10: talk him, I mean, like it's only a quaintance, Like
Speaker 10: he's a really cool, cool dude.
Speaker 1: But like, you know, how did you meet her? Did
Speaker 1: you meet her through him? You met her? inCider?
Speaker 4: Just like she works at a bar.
Speaker 7: I frequent.
Speaker 1: The bar? You frequent? I don't. I've never frequent to
Speaker 1: the bar. That's that's why that's like s a t words,
Speaker 1: you're a regular.
Speaker 2: Yeah, all right, So, so, uh, you know that this
Speaker 2: lady was dating I guess you're saying he's not a friend,
Speaker 2: he's an acquaintance. But you slept with her anyway, and
Speaker 2: you claim to have no remorse. Can I I have
Speaker 2: to bring up this one thing that that you you
Speaker 2: apparently told the call screener. You apparently told the call
Speaker 2: screener that you feel like cheating is a natural part
Speaker 2: of the world. I want to I want to hear
Speaker 2: your perspective on this.
Speaker 7: He kind of post it like that, like he asked
Speaker 7: that question.
Speaker 1: I was like, I mean, okay, I mean, well, what
Speaker 1: do you do? You do you stand by that statement?
Speaker 1: M kind of yeah, okay, tell us your thoughts.
Speaker 4: You don't know anybody that's well, tell us your.
Speaker 2: Thoughts about it? What what do you Why do you
Speaker 2: feel as though it is a natural part of the world.
Speaker 4: Uh, because you know, you know, fucking people fall out
Speaker 4: of love, and I mean love isnt love sometimes and sometimes,
Speaker 4: uh you know, lust is what I do.
Speaker 8: I don't know.
Speaker 4: Maybe you've got the answers, right, I don't you know.
Speaker 2: I I do not have the answers on why you
Speaker 2: feel the way you Only you have the answers as
Speaker 2: to why you feel the way you feel about that.
Speaker 2: I'm asking you your personal opinion, which I do not
Speaker 2: have because.
Speaker 1: I am not.
Speaker 4: Uh yeah, people cheating like.
Speaker 1: Eric, you sound you have something you want to say,
Speaker 1: especially I mean, I don't know, I don't know what
Speaker 1: you're saying. But I don't even think you know you're saying.
Speaker 10: Yeah, I'm trying not to express myself.
Speaker 1: Then you didn't want us use your real names are
Speaker 1: you and.
Speaker 2: I'm gonna call you and Andres, are you afraid of
Speaker 2: I feel like, can I be on? Look, here's the
Speaker 2: thing and on this show, I'm not here to like,
Speaker 2: I'm not here to judge you for any whatever it is.
Speaker 1: You know you if you have, I mean, the chat
Speaker 1: is a different thing. They do whatever they want. But
Speaker 1: if you tell us your genuine thoughts.
Speaker 2: On on things, you know, I'm not I'm here to
Speaker 2: only tease them out of you and not you know,
Speaker 2: give my own personal.
Speaker 5: Whatever.
Speaker 1: Okay, how old are you? Oh? Yeah, go in and cheat?
Speaker 10: I mean whatever?
Speaker 1: Yeah, do whatever? I mean whatever you're you're hey, you
Speaker 1: know what? Look, can I bring up I.
Speaker 2: Want to bring up something I want to I want
Speaker 2: to let's do a let's do a quick let's do
Speaker 2: a quick thing here, Andres, how would you feel if
Speaker 2: you were dating a girl and she cheated on you?
Speaker 2: How would you honestly feel? Would you would you stand by.
Speaker 1: If?
Speaker 2: Like, because it's one thing, it's one thing if you cheat,
Speaker 2: and you're like, well, cheating's a natural part of the world.
Speaker 2: But if somebody cheats on you, do you also go well,
Speaker 2: cheating is a natural part of the world.
Speaker 1: Like how do you respond good? Great?
Speaker 4: I mean, like I guess, I mean I move on.
Speaker 7: I mean I move on from that first.
Speaker 1: Then maybe.
Speaker 7: Definitely move on to that first.
Speaker 1: I guess you wouldn't feel like shit, right, I was
Speaker 1: gonna do you feel salt at the time?
Speaker 7: I mean, like like like it hasn't everybody from that
Speaker 7: cheating at one point ever?
Speaker 4: Like I mean like everybody does, like even I have
Speaker 4: like you in in past relationship.
Speaker 1: I mean, that doesn't make it doesn't make it right.
Speaker 3: The only reason why I said if you're twenty two
Speaker 3: you can cheat is because, like you know, like when
Speaker 3: your parents tell you when you're in high school and
Speaker 3: it's like, man, I got this friend. His name is blank,
Speaker 3: and he's my best friend, and your parents say shit,
Speaker 3: like after you graduate from school you might never speak to.
Speaker 1: That motherfucker ever again.
Speaker 3: And I used to be like, no, wait, that's my
Speaker 3: best friend. Man, how could you say that. I don't
Speaker 3: talk to anybody from my school.
Speaker 1: I talked to one guy and maybe a girl who
Speaker 1: recently got married for me, Like they were right.
Speaker 3: And that's only a couple of years after you graduate
Speaker 3: from high school. So you're still in that kind of
Speaker 3: age where like who gives a fuck, you know, just
Speaker 3: be just have fun. I don't think you should beat,
Speaker 3: disobedient or lie because what people ever think about when
Speaker 3: you cheat is yes, exactly, but you don't want to
Speaker 3: get an STD and you also don't have a kid
Speaker 3: with some random girl. So if you're gonna cheat, if
Speaker 3: you're gonna cheat, I think you should just be straight up.
Speaker 1: You might even have a chick that might be down
Speaker 1: with the little thing that he was trying to do
Speaker 1: on the side.
Speaker 4: Of an open relationship.
Speaker 1: I'm not like a see listen, listen, andres I want
Speaker 1: to bring up another thing to you. Okay. So look,
Speaker 1: you have the desire to, you know, hang around with
Speaker 1: multiple people, It's okay.
Speaker 2: You know, look, it's okay. You have your desires. There's
Speaker 2: ethical ways to pursue those desires through means of communication,
Speaker 2: you know. And I don't know if you've have you
Speaker 2: considered that, have you considered the like, Okay, I can
Speaker 2: I can be with multiple people as long as I'm
Speaker 2: up front with all those people. And if I've you know,
Speaker 2: created a foundational relationship in which everybody is aware of
Speaker 2: of what's going on and and and whatnot.
Speaker 1: Have you considered that you know I have, but like,
Speaker 1: that's so awkward, dude, Yeah, do you feel awkward?
Speaker 4: That would be awkward as fuck.
Speaker 10: Go up to your friend and be like, hey, can
Speaker 10: I fuck your girlfriend too?
Speaker 1: See what he says.
Speaker 3: He might say, yes, Yeah, that was a nervous laugh
Speaker 3: because you you might be scared to ask, but you
Speaker 3: you'd be surprised what you.
Speaker 1: What you can get if you ask for it. That
Speaker 1: is true, I guess, bro, And if you really want,
Speaker 1: if you really want, if you really want to do
Speaker 1: his girlfriend, I mean like he might be like, take her.
Speaker 7: Take he's pretty balanced, but.
Speaker 1: She's a point star, so she's already used to being
Speaker 1: with other guys. Right, Maybe they have a chill relationship.
Speaker 2: Maybe there's like you know, she's open to her but listen,
Speaker 2: but listen, you're not Andres. All I will say is
Speaker 2: I think there's a way for you to pursue the
Speaker 2: kind of lifestyle that you're interested in pursuing in an
Speaker 2: ethical way. And I would just consider that. All right,
Speaker 2: Do you have anything else you want to say to Andres?
Speaker 1: I don't think he doesn't sound I'm not going to
Speaker 1: get into it. You don't saw convinced, you don't saw
Speaker 1: convinced it's not like you. Still, she was all right,
Speaker 1: I'll let you say one more thing and then and
Speaker 1: then we'll move on on dress. What do you want
Speaker 1: to say?
Speaker 7: She's like a coworker of a chick.
Speaker 4: I used to really like whatever.
Speaker 2: I undress, I'm gonna pray for you. It's a Jewish god.
Speaker 2: He's not the most active god. He's not the most
Speaker 2: effective god, but he's the one I've got. So I'll
Speaker 2: pray to him.
Speaker 1: We pray for you. Have a good night on dress.
Speaker 10: Please please fucking hung up?
Speaker 1: That is maybe the top.
Speaker 2: I would put that among the top ten strangest energies.
Speaker 1: I couldn't tell where it was coming. I couldn't tell
Speaker 1: if he was like with it or not with it.
Speaker 1: And then porn. It just was a mixed bag. At
Speaker 1: the end, he was like, I want you to hang
Speaker 1: up on him. He's like, yeah, hang up on me, man.
Speaker 1: I gave He's like BDSM Yeah.
Speaker 2: I was about to say, I think he's like statistic,
Speaker 2: statistic or statistics when you inflict the pain.
Speaker 1: He has a masochistic yes yes, yes tendencies on him.
Speaker 3: Yes yeah, something punishment, something guilt, shame. I don't know, shame,
Speaker 3: maybe he enjoyed maybe you know.
Speaker 2: What it is, you know what it could be because
Speaker 2: I brought up into the idea. I'm like, oh, maybe
Speaker 2: you could find a lady who's interested in like an
Speaker 2: open relationship or a polygamous thing or whatnot.
Speaker 1: But I think that doesn't satisfy him. I think the
Speaker 1: maybe the thrill, this thrill real probably is what he
Speaker 1: does it for him.
Speaker 2: Yeah, the thrill of the fact that he's doing something
Speaker 2: he shouldn't be he shouldn't be doing is the thing
Speaker 2: for him.
Speaker 1: And that's why he wasn't receptive to the idea.
Speaker 9: Right.
Speaker 3: We tried to give him alternative things, and but he
Speaker 3: couldn't even explain himself.
Speaker 1: So I think you're right. I think you're right. I
Speaker 1: don't know if he knows what's what he's talking about, either,
Speaker 1: But does anyone know what they're talking about?
Speaker 9: No?
Speaker 1: How are you feeling? I feel great?
Speaker 2: You know, I keep taking calls.
Speaker 1: I think we should like, what the hell is going
Speaker 1: to follow that one? Alice?
Speaker 9: Hello?
Speaker 1: Hi?
Speaker 2: How are you doing?
Speaker 1: Alice?
Speaker 6: I'm doing great?
Speaker 8: How are you.
Speaker 2: We're chilling? We're chilling, Alice? Is there anything in particular
Speaker 2: I'm you know, I always I'm going to do a
Speaker 2: tangent here. I'm always trying to decide, like should I
Speaker 2: read what it says here because I already know what
Speaker 2: you want to talk about? Or should I say, Alice,
Speaker 2: is there anything that you want to talk about so
Speaker 2: that you can tell it in your own words?
Speaker 9: Oh? You can?
Speaker 6: You can't read it out?
Speaker 2: You know, No, I mean you are tell us eels,
Speaker 2: what is it that you want to talk about?
Speaker 6: Okay, Okay, Yeah, I was just sort of like considering
Speaker 6: for a while now to like drop out of school,
Speaker 6: drop out of college, and well start working at Hooters
Speaker 6: and like kind of work my way up using my
Speaker 6: fisteques to potentially do porn. Mm hmm okay, yeah, like
Speaker 6: I think I could, Like I don't know, Like I'm
Speaker 6: still working on it. That's why I'm thinking of like
Speaker 6: just starting on easy. But dropping out of college is
Speaker 6: like a.
Speaker 1: Big deal too, So so can I say what it
Speaker 1: says here?
Speaker 2: It says here that you you Okay, so it says
Speaker 2: you want to go into porn, but you say you're
Speaker 2: not ready yet, and you view a job at Hooters
Speaker 2: as like a way it says here to work your
Speaker 2: confidence up is that correct.
Speaker 6: Yeah, basically like sort of like a gateway, you know,
Speaker 6: like just getting used to like being looked at like that.
Speaker 1: Okay is that? And you say that's why you're not
Speaker 1: ready because you don't have the confidence yet.
Speaker 6: Yeah, I'm still like I have to definitely work on
Speaker 6: like being fully confident enough for that as well as
Speaker 6: like you know, my parents will not be very happy
Speaker 6: with that route if I.
Speaker 2: Take it, you know, so let me ask you what
Speaker 2: is the driving force? Like why, like tell me tell
Speaker 2: me why why do you why do you want to
Speaker 2: go into port Why?
Speaker 1: Exactly?
Speaker 6: Well, I just thought about it for a long time because,
Speaker 6: like to be honest with you, like like I don't know,
Speaker 6: I've always been told I have like big tits, so
Speaker 6: like I have gotten that kind of attention a lot,
Speaker 6: and I think it's just like a matter of time
Speaker 6: when I can like navigate my way to this capitalist.
Speaker 1: Right.
Speaker 2: But besides, like okay, but besides, like you know, people
Speaker 2: telling you that you should go into it, like what
Speaker 2: what it's your own personal like what.
Speaker 1: Like do you do you feel like you would like it?
Speaker 1: Like what did you like what's your personal affinity to? Exactly?
Speaker 2: Forgetting about what other people are telling you you should
Speaker 2: do Like what, why do you feel like you should
Speaker 2: do it?
Speaker 9: Oh?
Speaker 6: I just I think it'll be hot, and I think
Speaker 6: if I'm sixty, I could like make good money off
Speaker 6: of like something like that I find hot.
Speaker 1: Okay, that's fair, I feel because I feel like about
Speaker 1: because what mildly concerned me was you talking about like.
Speaker 2: Build like you want to build up your confidence and
Speaker 2: ship And I was just like trying to make like,
Speaker 2: are you going into this for like the right reason?
Speaker 1: Reason? Right? Right?
Speaker 8: I agree for sure?
Speaker 9: Yeah.
Speaker 6: I mean that's like sort of the debate I still
Speaker 6: kind of have in my head, Like there's two sides
Speaker 6: to it, Like I don't know, should I just keep
Speaker 6: going to college and hayteen school and like just not
Speaker 6: wanting to do that with my life, or should I
Speaker 6: like kind of risk it all and just try it out.
Speaker 3: If it's a passion, that's different than a hobby, right,
Speaker 3: A passion is like, Yo, if I don't try to
Speaker 3: do this thing, I'm gonna fucking hate myself forever. If
Speaker 3: you feel like that, that's a lot different than I
Speaker 3: could do this. On the side, you can still go
Speaker 3: to school, shoot a little porn, you know what. I mean,
Speaker 3: if that's what you want to do, that is.
Speaker 2: True, you know, very true.
Speaker 8: That's true.
Speaker 1: I guess you know, it starts your way up before
Speaker 1: you get to like bangros and should you got to.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I would I I you know, I would say
Speaker 2: the same thing to you that I would say to
Speaker 2: like I mean, you know, like like you know, like
Speaker 2: people who want to like whatever, like do music or
Speaker 2: do like it's anything. Everyone's always like, oh, I need
Speaker 2: to quit. I need to completely disrupt my life right
Speaker 2: right to pursue my dreams.
Speaker 1: Then I realized you can, like, you know, you can
Speaker 1: do both. I had three jobs before I left to
Speaker 1: make music.
Speaker 3: I worked at Guitar Center, I worked at Mexican Summer Records,
Speaker 3: and I worked at Sony Music. I had three jobs
Speaker 3: and then I quit all three once I had some
Speaker 3: traction with doing something on the side, and then I
Speaker 3: decided to do it full. So although I didn't want
Speaker 3: to do porn, music is my porn, I guess. So
Speaker 3: that's how I did it. That might work for you.
Speaker 3: Just kind of get your feeding to, you know, And
Speaker 3: I mean shit, going to school is cool. You can
Speaker 3: meet a bunch of people. It's actually more social than
Speaker 3: sitting at the crib and shooting the porn. So maybe
Speaker 3: you might want to like keep that for now, maybe
Speaker 3: a semester two, and then squeeze in the Yeah. Pun intended.
Speaker 6: That there's like a pressure like stay to keep doing
Speaker 6: what I'm doing, you know, get that like degree and
Speaker 6: like just go out the straight past.
Speaker 8: But I don't know.
Speaker 6: You're right, I should just go for it and like
Speaker 6: not completely disrupt my life. But I really, like, really
Speaker 6: like at school. So it's very tempting to just drop out.
Speaker 1: Well, what would you be studying in school? That's what
Speaker 1: I was gonna ask.
Speaker 6: Yeah, Oh, I'm studying psychology.
Speaker 1: Oh okay, so like I don't know about I don't
Speaker 1: know what it's like psychology. Do you know do you
Speaker 1: go to college? Yeah, what'd you study? Uh, graphic design
Speaker 1: and animation?
Speaker 2: Okay, I studied film And I don't know about you.
Speaker 2: I don't know about either of you guys, But I
Speaker 2: when I was in college, I maybe went to class
Speaker 2: for like two hours a day or something like that,
Speaker 2: and the rest of the time you have to do whatever. Ever,
Speaker 2: So like you know, go to class, get your homework done,
Speaker 2: and then sucking choot porn. That's if that's what you
Speaker 2: want to do. My whole thing was like, you know,
Speaker 2: I like you making sure that you're doing it for
Speaker 2: the right reasons, not because like you want validation of
Speaker 2: any kind from any outside source.
Speaker 3: Because the Hooters thing kind of scared me because the
Speaker 3: Hooters and never run like a good.
Speaker 6: But yeah, I guess it is slightly concerned. Oh no,
Speaker 6: I do care a lot about like what how me,
Speaker 6: which is why it's like like hard to decide if
Speaker 6: it's like the place you know right doesn't want me
Speaker 6: a porn star.
Speaker 3: You know, like personally, if I were to talk to
Speaker 3: someone that is dying to do porn, they'd probably say, oh,
Speaker 3: I love to fuck on camera, So I figured, why
Speaker 3: not get paid for it?
Speaker 1: You know, That's what I thought. It would be the
Speaker 1: normal like background resume for someone who wants to do it.
Speaker 3: Maybe they're stripping first, and maybe that's kind of like
Speaker 3: the gateway because they're like, well, I like the attention
Speaker 3: of that.
Speaker 1: I feel, you know what I'm saying, and then I
Speaker 1: got it to that. But Hooters they make good wings.
Speaker 1: I don't know if they make good points starts, Okay, yeah.
Speaker 9: I don't know.
Speaker 6: I just assume like seems to be like wear like
Speaker 6: tight shirts and like walk around looking for to be
Speaker 6: like totally get used to and then like but stripping.
Speaker 6: I didn't even think of that. That's like a good idea, you.
Speaker 1: Know, we're like we're killing it right now. Well, let's
Speaker 1: not a thesis of the call do whatever makes you however, Yeah,
Speaker 1: whatever it makes you smile?
Speaker 2: K is there anything? Is there anything else that you
Speaker 2: want to say to Eric the architect or to me
Speaker 2: a gecko? I guess you're also a geck. Is there
Speaker 2: anything you want to say to two geckos or to yourself,
Speaker 2: or to the chat or to God?
Speaker 6: Before we go, my wants to say real quick, hey,
Speaker 6: I love you so much.
Speaker 10: I watch you all the time, and I'm so excited
Speaker 10: that I get to see you right here.
Speaker 2: Alright, thanks man, appreciate your homies.
Speaker 6: All right?
Speaker 1: Oh fuck? I do that sometimes, right? And that was
Speaker 1: the end. That was that was that was we did it.
Speaker 1: It was rounding it, it was rounding itself out. I
Speaker 1: had no idea, dude, was right there. Yeah, that's cool,
Speaker 1: that's fine.
Speaker 8: You know that that.
Speaker 1: It's it's like people should do what makes them happy.
Speaker 1: I was just the reason why you know.
Speaker 2: I was saying this because because like I didn't you know,
Speaker 2: is it like, is it like a whole thing of
Speaker 2: like I need other people to like validate me. Or
Speaker 2: is the thing of like I genuinely like just genuinely
Speaker 2: enjoying sexual camera, then that's what.
Speaker 1: Please go for it. I don't know any points starts,
Speaker 1: but I'm sure they're like not I really like that shit.
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, I really like that ship. That's why I
Speaker 1: want to do it. I mean, I look, it's it's.
Speaker 2: Like if you kind of got it made, we're like,
Speaker 2: you know, you don't run it because I know that
Speaker 2: whatever in that industry, I'm sure there's a lot of
Speaker 2: evils to run into. But if you avoid those and
Speaker 2: you can make money and you're living a cool lifestyle,
Speaker 2: I'm sure there's I'm sure that's a lifestyle that you
Speaker 2: could grow to like.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I don't know if it's unforgiving it is
Speaker 1: or ain't no fiicient. I don't know. You've been to Hooters? Yeah,
Speaker 1: I've never been. The wings are really good, bro, the
Speaker 1: hot sauce is really really really really good. Okay, I
Speaker 1: gotta go somebody.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's funny. I didn't even go because like I'm
Speaker 3: trying to be perverse and ship. It's just they have
Speaker 3: good food, really yeah, for the price is really good.
Speaker 3: What's what's the best thing on the menus?
Speaker 1: Wings? Fries? They have Hooters in La Probably the ones
Speaker 1: I went to were in Jersey. I gotta go. I
Speaker 1: get some wings.
Speaker 3: They're like usually on like a boardwalk, like like one
Speaker 3: of those outdoor mall kind of things.
Speaker 1: It's like a Hooters.
Speaker 2: They had one in Baltimore, but I think it's closed.
Speaker 1: You got a lot of calls, man, Jesus, Yeah, we have,
Speaker 1: damn yeah, I have. We have fourteen thousand missed calls.
Speaker 1: That is insane, pretty crazy. Rosemary, Hi, how are you? Rosemary?
Speaker 8: Okay?
Speaker 1: How are you?
Speaker 8: Guys?
Speaker 1: I'm dandy.
Speaker 2: Dandy's a good word. Why just okay, Rosemary? What's going
Speaker 2: on with you this evening?
Speaker 8: Nothing really bad happened today. There's just a lot going
Speaker 8: on in my life right now.
Speaker 2: Well, it says here that you're wondering if you should
Speaker 2: not break up with but ghost your boyfriend have six years.
Speaker 1: Fuck, he's been saying he wants to marry her.
Speaker 2: He's been saying he wants to marry you, and he's
Speaker 2: been saying that he wants you to be a stay
Speaker 2: at home wife, but that he changed his mind out
Speaker 2: of the blue, in your in your words, in your words,
Speaker 2: what's going on?
Speaker 1: Deep?
Speaker 8: Yeah, Well, basically we've been dating since college, and to
Speaker 8: be fair, I did bring it up first, just full
Speaker 8: honesty here, by it.
Speaker 1: You mean married, and he I'm sorry, by it you
Speaker 1: mean marriage?
Speaker 8: Yes, yes, okay, And he said he was into it
Speaker 8: at the time, but he wanted to, you know, get
Speaker 8: through college and stuff, which makes sense. I agreed with that.
Speaker 8: And then he continued to talk about it, and he
Speaker 8: would bring up stuff like, oh, we should go here
Speaker 8: for a honeymoon, you should meet my aunt, and then,
Speaker 8: out of the blue one month I think it was
Speaker 8: August of last year, August September, and he just said, actually,
Speaker 8: I don't know, I changed my mind.
Speaker 1: No, I see, And there was no lead up. Well
Speaker 1: what do you want, Rosemary?
Speaker 8: Honestly, I'm kind of past the point of anger or depression,
Speaker 8: and I just kind of want to end the situation.
Speaker 8: But I don't feel like he deserves any respects in
Speaker 8: the ending. That sounds mean. I don't want to be mean.
Speaker 1: No, I don't think I mean just gotta do so
Speaker 1: you don't want to be with him, but you don't
Speaker 1: want to break his heart? Is that what you're saying?
Speaker 8: See, that's that's where my that's where my dilemma comes.
Speaker 8: I kind of do because I feel like he deserves it,
Speaker 8: but I don't. I don't know how to explain it.
Speaker 8: I don't because we have a lot of intimacy.
Speaker 2: You know, there's a there's a revenge seeking part of
Speaker 2: your brain. Is Is that sort of what we're hearing?
Speaker 1: Yeah, mm hmm, I see. It's a bit petty, little petty.
Speaker 2: What do you want, Rosemary like?
Speaker 1: For your life?
Speaker 2: Do you do you when you look at your future
Speaker 2: of your life, do you envision yourself being a stay
Speaker 2: at home wife or mom?
Speaker 1: Do you what?
Speaker 8: What?
Speaker 2: What do you personally want for yourself?
Speaker 7: Well?
Speaker 8: I didn't mind that at all. I was very into it.
Speaker 8: I have ADHD and autism and the nine to five
Speaker 8: was kind of burning me out quite a bit, and
Speaker 8: I wanted to focus on more of my freelance work.
Speaker 8: So I agreed with this. I was fine with this,
Speaker 8: so but I kind of feel lured into dumping my
Speaker 8: better job into being this m HM, just for him
Speaker 8: to change his mind.
Speaker 1: Where does he work.
Speaker 8: He works at He works at an accounting firm. He
Speaker 8: has a lot I hesitate because he has a lot
Speaker 8: of clients.
Speaker 2: M you know, Okay, here's here's my thing. Yeah is
Speaker 2: uh you know, Rosemary, I feel like, listen, you deserve
Speaker 2: to pursue whatever type of life you want, and what
Speaker 2: you don't deserve, what I don't want for you is
Speaker 2: for for your life, your your vision, for yourself, whatever
Speaker 2: it is, your lifestyle, your career, to be at the
Speaker 2: whim of this guy, the guy you know.
Speaker 1: You deserve to be in the pilot seats for sure.
Speaker 8: You know, yeah, I understand that. And I wasn't trying
Speaker 8: to like take the power for myself at all because
Speaker 8: I was making pretty decent money. But I don't know.
Speaker 8: I trusted him, and I kind of feel stupid for that.
Speaker 1: Do you love him?
Speaker 8: Yeah?
Speaker 1: Well, do you think you'd be happier without that love anymore?
Speaker 1: Or do you think that it'd be better too?
Speaker 8: At this point yeah, yeah, at this point, yes, if
Speaker 8: you had asked me like six seven months.
Speaker 1: Ago, no, Mmm, this is a tough one.
Speaker 7: Uh.
Speaker 3: I think considering that you don't you didn't mind making
Speaker 3: making that sacrifice when you're a better headspace with him,
Speaker 3: but you also love him, but you don't want to
Speaker 3: be with him.
Speaker 1: I think you maybe he would respect if you were
Speaker 1: just straight up and just say we need some space
Speaker 1: and then you can decide then if once you say
Speaker 1: that that you can make that space be two weeks
Speaker 1: or two years. You know, but that initial conversation can
Speaker 1: give him the option to make him feel like he
Speaker 1: has the power, but you actually do because you secretly
Speaker 1: know that this can be an extended break or it
Speaker 1: could be forever. It could be for a temporary it
Speaker 1: could be you might find a happy so I seek
Speaker 1: that time with another person that may fulfill some of
Speaker 1: the things that you want.
Speaker 8: I think that's valid. It's just kind of hard to
Speaker 8: trust him now because he was like offering us all
Speaker 8: these plans while he was thinking it.
Speaker 1: Now.
Speaker 2: See see, Rosemary, if I were you, if I were you,
Speaker 2: I would really think I asked you already kind of
Speaker 2: what you want, and you know you said that you
Speaker 2: would have been happy being a stay at home wife,
Speaker 2: and you know I respect that and everything, and I
Speaker 2: think if I were you, I would really have a
Speaker 2: cute sit, a nice sit, and a nice think about
Speaker 2: where you want your life to go, and then definitively
Speaker 2: decide that and then say to him, listen, this is
Speaker 2: what I'm gonna do.
Speaker 1: This is my plan.
Speaker 2: I love you very much, and you are welcome to
Speaker 2: join me on my plan for my life. But I'm
Speaker 2: no longer leaving my plan for my life up to you.
Speaker 2: To you, here's what I want to do. You're welcome
Speaker 2: to fit your way into it, if what you want
Speaker 2: to do fits into it, but you're not in the
Speaker 2: control anymore.
Speaker 1: What do you think about that?
Speaker 8: I would agree with that. The kicker with that is
Speaker 8: I have sat him down and talked about this stuff
Speaker 8: and he always said that, or the most recent ones
Speaker 8: he said he just doesn't know and to not pressure him.
Speaker 1: Well, ship dude, that's your answer. Man.
Speaker 8: I'm just wondering if ghosting is too far.
Speaker 1: Why?
Speaker 2: I mean, that's that's not ghosting.
Speaker 1: Have you had the conversation you had the conversation ghosting
Speaker 1: is not?
Speaker 8: You know, I just kind of like want to pick
Speaker 8: up my stuff in my apartment and just be gone
Speaker 8: one day. But I also don't want to hurt his
Speaker 8: feelings that bad.
Speaker 1: You guys live together?
Speaker 8: Yes, Oh, that was a's important thing we lived together.
Speaker 1: Ah, that makes it, That makes it more interesting. Yeah,
Speaker 1: hm hmm. I'm here.
Speaker 2: Here's just what I would say. Okay, you you sound
Speaker 2: like you really want to leave again.
Speaker 1: I'm not.
Speaker 2: I'm not here to tell you what to do. But
Speaker 2: if you are going to do that, you don't want
Speaker 2: to ghost him, then like tell him what you're doing
Speaker 2: and then and then they just be out and then
Speaker 2: and then and then peace out.
Speaker 1: It's only ghosting if you don't say anything. Just be like,
Speaker 1: maybe you're just conveniently packing up or bag and maybe
Speaker 1: you're putting some stuff in a cardboard box and he's like, hey,
Speaker 1: what are you doing? He's like, oh, you know, remember
Speaker 1: we had that conversation. I think I'm just gonna like
Speaker 1: just stay by my cousins or something like that. Maybe
Speaker 1: you soften the blow by kind of like telling them that, oh,
Speaker 1: you're gonna go somewhere else for a while. He's gonna
Speaker 1: get the hand. He knows what the fuck he knows
Speaker 1: you you guys have been dating for that long. He's
Speaker 1: gonna be able to tell that you don't want to
Speaker 1: be be in this relationship anymore and make that transition
Speaker 1: easy for yourself. Don't make it something that should be
Speaker 1: extended more than it has to be. Just kind of
Speaker 1: get into you know, like I said, maybe you're just
Speaker 1: packing up some stuff and he's wondering what's going on.
Speaker 1: And then it makes that conversation even easy to have
Speaker 1: before you leave. You know, that way you don't have
Speaker 1: to reopen a band aid, just get the fuck out
Speaker 1: of there. But also, don't listen to me. But that's
Speaker 1: just what I would do.
Speaker 8: No, I think that's valid advice.
Speaker 2: Well, listen to Rosemary. Whatever you do, I listen. I
Speaker 2: really hope I try not to tell people what to do. Yeah,
Speaker 2: the whole thing of the whole show is like like
Speaker 2: talking through things with people. I don't want to be like,
Speaker 2: but I also really but there are some times like
Speaker 2: this is a great example where like I really do
Speaker 2: want to tell you what to do. Like all all
Speaker 2: I want for your Rosemary is like to take the
Speaker 2: pilot's seat of what you want to do. So I
Speaker 2: just before you know, listen before we go as we're
Speaker 2: winding this down.
Speaker 1: I just hope that you do that.
Speaker 2: I hope you have the courage to do that, and
Speaker 2: I hope that, uh, you know, you take your precious
Speaker 2: resource of life, and you you, you definitively put yourself
Speaker 2: in the driver's seat and not this guy.
Speaker 1: You come first.
Speaker 8: You're right, You're right. It'll be easier for both of us, probably,
Speaker 8: And I really hope he finds what he wants, Like
Speaker 8: I don't necessarily wish anything ill on him that.
Speaker 2: Mary, is there anything that you want to say to
Speaker 2: the computer before we go?
Speaker 8: You guys are great. I love your get thro suits
Speaker 8: and I hope you both have a great night.
Speaker 1: Thank you, Mary, Thank you. Wow, that's fantastic.
Speaker 2: Eric the Architect, I think I think, I think.
Speaker 1: That was what I think that was. Yeah, that was
Speaker 1: that was festive.
Speaker 3: That was Relationship advice is always hard for me, man,
Speaker 3: because uh fuck, we all in we all in relationships
Speaker 3: with someone.
Speaker 1: Your best friend is your homies, U S relationship. You know.
Speaker 3: I want to tell you to like funck over some
Speaker 3: dude that's like helping you pay your bills or some ship,
Speaker 3: and then you listen to me, and now you don't.
Speaker 1: You're in the street or something. So it's it's hard.
Speaker 2: I've always said, I like, I like, I try my
Speaker 2: best with the calls on here to like more so
Speaker 2: talk through situations than to like this is what you need,
Speaker 2: this is what then yeah, then be like this is
Speaker 2: what you need to do. But I real didn't feel
Speaker 2: for her because it's like like I would like, like
Speaker 2: I would just hate to be in that position where.
Speaker 1: Well she lived with the dude. I was like, oh, yeah,
Speaker 1: that's that changes it. I thought it was like I
Speaker 1: didn't consider the six years for a second. I was like,
Speaker 1: oh yeah, that is hard.
Speaker 2: Well, yeah, I wish your good luck.
Speaker 1: What's her name again, Rosemary. That's a good spice as well,
Speaker 1: so she she should be okay. See this is I
Speaker 1: hear things like this and I'm like, you have a girlfriend, right, Yeah.
Speaker 1: I feel like relationships are tough for because I really
Speaker 1: like my independence.
Speaker 2: Like I like, when I was hearing her, I'm like, god,
Speaker 2: if it fucking sucks to have, Like no, I'm just like,
Speaker 2: it fucking sucks to have, like whatever your future plans
Speaker 2: for life, like you know, dictate like dictating upon another person.
Speaker 2: And also like if if I ever fuck up, I'm like,
Speaker 2: I I'm totally fine with bucking up and having it
Speaker 2: only affect.
Speaker 1: Me like when I have like like if I like
Speaker 1: if I don't do the dishes.
Speaker 2: When I live alone, Like, it's it's disgusting, and but
Speaker 2: I'm the only one that's the deal your ship. Yeah,
Speaker 2: I'm like, I'm okay, fucking over myself and you know,
Speaker 2: but it sucks when other people have to, you know,
Speaker 2: deal with.
Speaker 1: Deal with your ship. That's you know, totally. A lot
Speaker 1: was said. I was said, we had a quite quite
Speaker 1: mixed bag, you said of calls.
Speaker 2: Yeah, dude, this was great, man, Thank you so much
Speaker 2: for coming on the show. Is there is there anything
Speaker 2: that you want to plug, anything you want to tell
Speaker 2: the people before we go, Eric, anything you want to
Speaker 2: say at all?
Speaker 1: Ship? Man, folks, I thought I would be hot in
Speaker 1: this suit. I'm not.
Speaker 3: No, it's not that bad at all. I hope you
Speaker 3: can have even even more varied people to come here
Speaker 3: and talk to you. Of course, so this is a
Speaker 3: great platform to to be yourself in somebody else's body
Speaker 3: or another animal.
Speaker 1: That's cool as hell. And yeah, like I guess in general,
Speaker 1: for me, man, this is like one of the coolest
Speaker 1: things I've done in a while.
Speaker 2: Oh hell yeah, I'm jazzed to hear that. Man.
Speaker 3: Is this is a vibe and you know, this is
Speaker 3: really inspiring because i've't been on twitch in a while,
Speaker 3: so it's cool to see some some some people in
Speaker 3: the chat kicking it with with us. It's definitely the
Speaker 3: best music I've ever made at this current moment. So
Speaker 3: I don't really do a lot of stuff that's not music,
Speaker 3: but this hopefully could be inspired to anybody working on
Speaker 3: something creative.
Speaker 1: It's always cool to step away and just kick it.
Speaker 1: Of course, it's normal.
Speaker 3: I think, especially through COVID, it makes you feel like
Speaker 3: you have to work on ship all the time and
Speaker 3: you're like fucking up.
Speaker 1: If you're not this like busy person all the time,
Speaker 1: it kind.
Speaker 3: Of dictates like you're lazy or some ship because you
Speaker 3: want to hang out or because you want to party.
Speaker 3: And I think like as things are becoming more safe,
Speaker 3: it's good to have that balance, you know.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's good to it's good to step away and
Speaker 2: I'm sorry. This is one of the reasons I really
Speaker 2: like having musicians on the shows, because it's like, if
Speaker 2: it's it's fun when like you're not doing your like
Speaker 2: normal thing, you're like an extra totally.
Speaker 1: It's it's cool to like, you know, experience that or.
Speaker 3: Do some other ship because all it's gonna do is
Speaker 3: gonna inspire you, man, because all the things that we're
Speaker 3: doing seem redundant without breaking it up a bit. And
Speaker 3: you know, I stay in the studio, you know, but.
Speaker 2: What's the when's the when's the new album coming out?
Speaker 1: I can't say the date? Oh you can't say the date?
Speaker 1: Oh okay.
Speaker 2: I kept I okay, I kept trying to get you
Speaker 2: because I know you're your manager. Was like, tell them
Speaker 2: the thing. I thought you had a thing you want.
Speaker 3: Oh no, no, no, I don't have I don't have
Speaker 3: a date. But it is future Proof the album, and yeah,
Speaker 3: it's gonna be a fucking show.
Speaker 2: Is that album's called future Proof?
Speaker 1: Future Proof? What is future proof?
Speaker 9: Man?
Speaker 1: Oh? Future proof is is a whole thing, right, Like Okay,
Speaker 1: Like I thought of it because like I'm into tech.
Speaker 1: Sure you're into tech too, right, And when you the
Speaker 1: computer especially yeah, right, so especially like when you're buying
Speaker 1: a new computer, right or a new gear. You know,
Speaker 1: let's consider like Apple computer or something.
Speaker 3: Right, it'll be like, yo, they got to stop computer
Speaker 3: at Best Buy and you're like, I don't want that ship.
Speaker 3: I want a future proof to ship. I want to
Speaker 3: make sure I put enough RAM and hard drive space
Speaker 3: in it. So that I can hold his computer for
Speaker 3: a long time. Yeah, And you know during COVID in
Speaker 3: the lockdown, I think I was investing in all this equipment,
Speaker 3: but I was thinking about like the equipment before, I
Speaker 3: was thinking about how it was feeling. And then I
Speaker 3: was like, well, how do you we future prove ourselves
Speaker 3: through technology? How do we future prove yourself as a
Speaker 3: human being? And then I was like, well, damn, we're
Speaker 3: ordering all this food every day. I hope we're recycling.
Speaker 3: You know, we're ordering all this stuff off Amazon. I
Speaker 3: hope we're recycling. I have all this free time, all
Speaker 3: the fucking time. I hope I'm learning a new skill.
Speaker 3: I am an entrepreneur, I'm a black business owner. I
Speaker 3: hope that I'm having all my legal shit right on
Speaker 3: the copywriting and trademarketing of stuff.
Speaker 1: That I put all this time money.
Speaker 3: I hope I'm mentally alright too, you know, with this
Speaker 3: meditating or do some shit like this is getting some
Speaker 3: shit up your chest, Like, hope you're practicing all these
Speaker 3: things because that's how your future prove yourself.
Speaker 1: And that's when I was like, ah for an album.
Speaker 3: Yeah, And then I just thought like, does one do
Speaker 3: that and I did the EP, but I think that
Speaker 3: was just a small slice of what I really wanted
Speaker 3: to say. And the album is showcases my journey through
Speaker 3: future proof of myself, but not a linear story. It's
Speaker 3: quite one that I think that people listen to the
Speaker 3: group probably want to hear from me something that you
Speaker 3: have to kind of like dedicate some time to do
Speaker 3: on your own, because a group has to sacrifice, you know,
Speaker 3: there's only one space for you.
Speaker 1: So when you have three minutes or four minutes of
Speaker 1: a song to yourself, there's a lot more you can say.
Speaker 2: Damn, that's that's a hot cell. I'm excited for it.
Speaker 1: Man. Yeah, I definitely I want I want you to
Speaker 1: hear it. So I'm not completely done, but I definitely
Speaker 1: want you to check out what I'm working on.
Speaker 2: Of course, man, I would love to. Yeah, and did
Speaker 2: hey listen if you want to make anything for the show,
Speaker 2: that would be sick. Yeah.
Speaker 1: Now the piano ship got me inspired.
Speaker 2: Beautiful, beautiful dude. Eric, You've been awesome, man, Thank you
Speaker 2: for coming on.
Speaker 1: Thank you man. Hell yeah, Eric, the architect Baby, let's go.
Speaker 1: The rep cat goes on the line taking your phone
Speaker 1: calls every night. The repink Cant goes doing his eye.
Speaker 1: He's teaching you house and live your life, but he's
Speaker 1: not really an expert.