WEBVTT - Workin on My NightSauce

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<v Speaker 1>It's seven two in o Jai and you're listening to

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<v Speaker 1>Night Call. Hey everybody, and welcome Tonight Call, a podcast

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<v Speaker 1>for your up days and down dogs. I'm Molly Lambert

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<v Speaker 1>and I'm in here in Los Angeles with Tesla in

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<v Speaker 1>only because Emily is on her way out here as

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<v Speaker 1>we speak to join us for the first Night Call

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<v Speaker 1>Let us know. I'm thinking about pens. You said lighters,

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<v Speaker 1>and I like lighters, but I also said pens because

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<v Speaker 1>I love finding the like weird branded pens that I

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<v Speaker 1>have collected over the course of my life. I have them.

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<v Speaker 1>Many of them have run out of ink. I had

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<v Speaker 1>a floaty pen collection for many years. That was my

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<v Speaker 1>one collection of the floaty pen. I feel like you

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<v Speaker 1>don't really see them anymore. Maybe Nightcall can bring them back.

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<v Speaker 1>Maybe we can be a nightcall floaty pen, right dream?

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<v Speaker 1>What would be floating? An alien? Maybe an alien head

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<v Speaker 1>between some kind of New York skys Yeah, a little UFO, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>an alien on the phone on a landline phone dress

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<v Speaker 1>between points. Oh, this is a great idea. This is

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<v Speaker 1>true when when it's just me and Molly, we tend

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<v Speaker 1>to get silly vibes, We get real silly. We were

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<v Speaker 1>talking about the DJ sets we're going to be doing

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<v Speaker 1>at the night Call party tomorrow at Social Club, which

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<v Speaker 1>is also it Takes Takes Takes texts. I never know,

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<v Speaker 1>uh that we both might just play the same Steely

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<v Speaker 1>Dan song we both heard on Jones Jonesy Supbox last week.

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<v Speaker 1>We're talking about which is FM? The theme song from

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<v Speaker 1>the movie FM and the long version and version with

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<v Speaker 1>the strings. Did you read the Wikipedia entry about the song?

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<v Speaker 1>No tell me? Well, it's for a movie called FM,

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<v Speaker 1>which was apparently a movie about the collapse of free

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<v Speaker 1>form radio, and but it was like a Hollywood like

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<v Speaker 1>a shitty B movie trying to cash in on Like

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<v Speaker 1>that's the story is. It's like a radio station banding

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<v Speaker 1>together against like the commercial forces, and like, yeah, it

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<v Speaker 1>does sound great. I would probably love it. It's like

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<v Speaker 1>a who I don't know, I got to look into it,

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<v Speaker 1>but it was like the Wikipedia is like the story

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<v Speaker 1>in which like the DJ's band together and like overcome

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<v Speaker 1>the corporation that's trying to like shut down the free

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<v Speaker 1>form radio station. Like freeform radio had already been like

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<v Speaker 1>crushed by corporate powers like by that time, and so

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<v Speaker 1>the Stelia Dan song is just like really sarcastic um

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<v Speaker 1>about how radio sucked. After that, you also mentioned that

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<v Speaker 1>it sounded like the fake Steely dance song from Oh Hello.

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<v Speaker 1>It does sound a lot, which was in my head

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<v Speaker 1>for like pretty much ever after we saw Hello testing,

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<v Speaker 1>I saw a pre Broadway uh staging of Oh Hello.

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<v Speaker 1>That was that the Margo Margo yeah um, And we

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<v Speaker 1>saw like the workshop version and we laughed. So it

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<v Speaker 1>was best part of that show is when they how

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<v Speaker 1>frequently they acknowledge what it's like to be at theater,

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<v Speaker 1>which is like ha you're trapped and you can't get out,

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<v Speaker 1>and now we have you for three hours. Yea ever

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<v Speaker 1>we want. That was the funniest part of it was

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<v Speaker 1>the joke that there are so many jokes about theater

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<v Speaker 1>and about like okay, like everything gets dark, no spotlights

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<v Speaker 1>on me. It was also just weirdly tailored to like

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<v Speaker 1>all of the things Test and I think are funny

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<v Speaker 1>because we are also like old Upper West Side crotchety

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<v Speaker 1>men inside who loves steely Dan. It was made just

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<v Speaker 1>we've been kind of circling for a long time, which

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<v Speaker 1>is sauces. Very important. Uh. We wanted to talk about

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<v Speaker 1>what are the best sauces, Where where do you fall

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<v Speaker 1>on sauces? Tests. So listen. I know that Molly, you're

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<v Speaker 1>not a mayonnaise fan, but you like a oli. Is

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<v Speaker 1>that correct? It's two. I've made a reli and it's uh.

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<v Speaker 1>I like it better if I make it at home.

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<v Speaker 1>Maybe I would even like mayonnaise if I made it

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<v Speaker 1>at home. There's something about putting it to put it

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<v Speaker 1>in a jar. But the eggs. I get concerned about

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<v Speaker 1>the eggs. I think I thought there were eggs in mayonnaise.

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<v Speaker 1>There are eggs. I thought there was dairy and mayonnaise

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<v Speaker 1>a really long time. I also um when I saw

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<v Speaker 1>Carvel before Carvel came on our podcast a couple of

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<v Speaker 1>weeks ago, we had brunch and we spent like a

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<v Speaker 1>good twenty five minutes talking about He was like, you know, like,

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<v Speaker 1>I know it's not cool to like mayonnaise, but like

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<v Speaker 1>mayonnaise is great, and I was like, no, disagree, disagree.

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<v Speaker 1>He also did something really interesting and good for brunch,

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<v Speaker 1>which is that he is allergic to eggs, so he

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<v Speaker 1>instead assembled a brunch out of other sides. So he

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<v Speaker 1>had a brunch that was like corned beef, hash like

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<v Speaker 1>a hash brown, and maybe like a pancake. It was like, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>that is very Yeah, that's it's inventive. It was very

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<v Speaker 1>It looked like he could make himself a little roll

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<v Speaker 1>them up. He also sent me a message yesterday that

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<v Speaker 1>he was like, hey, I really liked being on the podcast,

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<v Speaker 1>and he said when he listened to the episode the

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<v Speaker 1>following week that he was like talking back to it,

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<v Speaker 1>and I was like, oh, we're getting him in the

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<v Speaker 1>full anytime. I'm back tonight. Call you are an official.

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<v Speaker 1>You're the fourth Beetle, you are the fourth fetal Um.

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<v Speaker 1>I have to say that mayonnaise being killed by millennials

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<v Speaker 1>is awful. It's a travesty. Somebody on Twitter recently Um

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<v Speaker 1>called out the fact that like, when people don't like

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<v Speaker 1>mayonnaise and they try and put other stuff on their sandwiches,

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<v Speaker 1>it's beyond disgusting. I think some of the substitutions that

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<v Speaker 1>he listed, we're hummus on a just sandwich, not a

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<v Speaker 1>good it's not the right texture at all, and it's

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<v Speaker 1>not going to compliment what else is in your sandwich.

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<v Speaker 1>Pasto also wrong. I mean, there were so many things

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<v Speaker 1>that just can't replace mayonnaise. I would put all these

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<v Speaker 1>things on a sandwich over mayonnaise. Hummus. I mean if

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<v Speaker 1>it's a peda, but what if it's like I would

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<v Speaker 1>club sandwich ms. Okay, the thought of me and the

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<v Speaker 1>peter bread just made me like throw up love it

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<v Speaker 1>and zeki, which is like Mannie's adjacent. So I know,

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<v Speaker 1>taziki is fine because satziki is yogurt. I have no

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<v Speaker 1>problem with yogurt. It's just a mayonnaise. So it's the

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<v Speaker 1>fact that it's not dairy. It's like Uncanny Valley for

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<v Speaker 1>a texture. It's like that, it's like gross, It's just gross.

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<v Speaker 1>How is it a difference from soft butter? If I

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<v Speaker 1>can taste it, it's like I hate the taste of it.

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<v Speaker 1>What about tartar sauce, It's that's the exception. That's my thing,

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<v Speaker 1>A really tartar sauce. If it's in something and I

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<v Speaker 1>can't taste it, it's like, you know, good direction, Okay, okay,

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<v Speaker 1>If I notice it, it's bad. I understand. I understand

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<v Speaker 1>what you're saying. But it's I mean, in a way,

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<v Speaker 1>it's like how your body is made up of so

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<v Speaker 1>much water. Food is made up of so much mannise.

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<v Speaker 1>But it's like it's become part of the whole like

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<v Speaker 1>you have to just accept that it's there and that

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<v Speaker 1>you like it. It's this bias that you have against

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<v Speaker 1>what mannaise stands for. It's like, no, it's not. It's

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<v Speaker 1>like literally sometimes all like try something and be like,

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<v Speaker 1>oh no, there's mayonnaise in this. I'm out like a

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<v Speaker 1>dip ruins a lot of dips for me. Yeah, I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>it's definitely better to air on the side. I think

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<v Speaker 1>of yogurt or sour cream in a dip. I bet

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<v Speaker 1>I could make you a dip with those ingredients, sneak

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<v Speaker 1>in some mayonnaise and you have no idea. I'm saying

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<v Speaker 1>if you sneak in and I have no idea, that

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<v Speaker 1>it's fine. If it's in like a deviled egg, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>maybe it's fine. Mix up in a yoke if there's

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<v Speaker 1>something else to like, So if you make it more

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<v Speaker 1>mayonnaisy by adding yolk. But again it's like something's like

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<v Speaker 1>swimming in mayonnaise. I'm just like, swimming in anything's a

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<v Speaker 1>bad idea. Other than the sauce, they have a dn

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<v Speaker 1>Tai fung, which is the black vineagar and the soy

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<v Speaker 1>sauce and the ginger. I'm just saying there's so many

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<v Speaker 1>other sauces that are better than your sauce mayonnaise, like

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<v Speaker 1>a spread. It's a spread. Yeah, it's a spread, fair fair,

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<v Speaker 1>but it's a it's a part of tartar sauce, which

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<v Speaker 1>is a sauce. But it's hard because tartar sauce kind

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<v Speaker 1>of a dip. Tartar sauce is like n it's got

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<v Speaker 1>its own set of rules. Yeah, it's you know, you're

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<v Speaker 1>at the beach. Probably, No, you don't have to be

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<v Speaker 1>the beach deft tartar sauce. What are you talking about?

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<v Speaker 1>That good inland tartar sauce brings the beach to you. Like,

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<v Speaker 1>there's no time that I don't want mustard more? What

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<v Speaker 1>kind of mustard do you like? Just like any kind? Really? Yeah?

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<v Speaker 1>My parents think I'm crazy because I'm into yellow mustard.

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<v Speaker 1>I think that's like like a like a hot dog

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<v Speaker 1>or something. It's trashy people's mustard. They Oh, also, we're

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<v Speaker 1>all boycotting Nathan's hot dogs now. Oh why they gave

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of money to Trump or something. Oh, okay,

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<v Speaker 1>yeah we are. Um, you know I feel bad. Somebody

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<v Speaker 1>on the Facebook group Nightcallers, which you should join because

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<v Speaker 1>it's very lively. Was being like, well, what's wrong with fries?

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<v Speaker 1>And I didn't really have an answer, because we did

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<v Speaker 1>we thought maybe there was something, you know, we just

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<v Speaker 1>assumed that because they're a company, right, we're going to

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<v Speaker 1>clear the brand for now. I think fries are okay.

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<v Speaker 1>I think fries is fine. Um So the five mother sauces,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know if you have any feelings on these

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<v Speaker 1>in French cooking, goshamal, vlute espanol, French tomato, sauce that

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<v Speaker 1>has a name that I forget. And hollandaise. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>are you gonna knix hollandaise because it's too much like mayonnaise? No,

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<v Speaker 1>I like hollandise. You're such an enigma. I don't know

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<v Speaker 1>where you're coming from. Half over have it on egxpnedict.

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<v Speaker 1>I've made it. I feel like I went through. You

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<v Speaker 1>can make it in the microwave and it's no no, no,

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<v Speaker 1>But for real, there's this thing. If you look, it's

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<v Speaker 1>from like a legit source and you can make the

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<v Speaker 1>best hollandaise. It's like a white sauce ever, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>like I like an Alfredo. I don't like alfredo, uh um,

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<v Speaker 1>I like mustard. The most. I think mustard does the most.

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<v Speaker 1>Word limited capacity for mustard. I did you turn on

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<v Speaker 1>soy sauce? Thought that was your favorite favorite sauce, My

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<v Speaker 1>favorite sauce, but also ponds When you have pondzo, all

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<v Speaker 1>of a sudden, you're like, soy sauce is pretty basic?

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<v Speaker 1>Where do you and catch up? I like catch up okay,

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<v Speaker 1>but I do not accept any ketchup but Hines. Every

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<v Speaker 1>other ketchup tastes whack. I don't know why. It's something

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<v Speaker 1>they're sweetness. The sugar ratios are off on other people's.

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<v Speaker 1>It's like only Good Hunts is like the worst thing

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<v Speaker 1>I've ever tasted in my life. You know, when it's

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<v Speaker 1>soft brand, it's like Coca Cola. Yeah, it's not you know,

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<v Speaker 1>you don't want the PEPSI you don't want that? Can

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<v Speaker 1>I mention for anyone in l A that one of

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<v Speaker 1>the sauces that I'm really addicted to right now is

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<v Speaker 1>from Dave's Hot Chicken, and they have like this really

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<v Speaker 1>it makes your heart race, though, which is like I'm

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<v Speaker 1>not sure why because there's a lot of salt in it.

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<v Speaker 1>It must be that, but it's well, I was I

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<v Speaker 1>wasn't going to bring it up. But yeah, you did.

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<v Speaker 1>You you drank a bunch of syce shauce and then

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<v Speaker 1>you can't really concerned that you were going to die

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<v Speaker 1>and you I don't know if you can die from

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<v Speaker 1>over salting. But I'm addicted to Dave's Hot Chicken. And

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<v Speaker 1>this is not an ad. It should be an ad

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<v Speaker 1>because Dave's Hot Chicken. It's the best thing that's ever

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<v Speaker 1>happened to my neighborhood. But um, I was having it

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<v Speaker 1>so much. And you you get two sliders and they're huge,

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<v Speaker 1>and then you get like a bunch of tubs of

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<v Speaker 1>sauces because you take and take, and then you go

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<v Speaker 1>home and like fifteen minutes later, you're sweating your heart.

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<v Speaker 1>There's just a lot of salt in everything good. It's true.

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<v Speaker 1>I love the Zancou garlic sauce, the Zancou chicken they

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<v Speaker 1>have that It's like basically the same thing that you

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<v Speaker 1>can get a Trader Joe's the garlic spread. But I, uh,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't get it that much because I will just

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<v Speaker 1>eat the whole thing and then have like the salt sweat,

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<v Speaker 1>the salt of garlic. It's a very funky, so good.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh I went to after this podcast last week, I

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<v Speaker 1>went to Peta Hut on Fairfax because I was just like,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna walk around and find lunch. And it was

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<v Speaker 1>the best place. They had like a huge sauce bar.

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<v Speaker 1>It's like a Middle Eastern place is really good. And

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<v Speaker 1>then they just had a sauce bar that had like

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<v Speaker 1>the the y he low sauce you you know, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>they salty tangy yellow, salty tangy yellow sauce, the like

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<v Speaker 1>Herbie Delicious Green sauce and what is the Herby Delicious

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<v Speaker 1>Green sauce. I don't know, but we'll find out. I

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<v Speaker 1>think it's all Israeli sauce maybe, and uh and the

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<v Speaker 1>Delicious Garlic sauce and tihini. And I was just like,

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<v Speaker 1>this is what I like the most is an array.

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<v Speaker 1>I know you like to choose to have an array

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<v Speaker 1>of sauces. Yeah, well, that's like when you get fried

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<v Speaker 1>clams and you have the cocktail sauce and the tartar

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<v Speaker 1>sauce and you can like alternate. I always go for

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<v Speaker 1>the cocktail sauce though, and that you gotta alternate, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>or because the cocktail sauce eventually it's too What if

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<v Speaker 1>you just alternate with the cocktail sauce and like vinegar vinegar,

0:15:45.840 --> 0:15:49.960
<v Speaker 1>you need the like I like to like pickly, the

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<v Speaker 1>pickly smooth, you know what I mean. Get sponsored by

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<v Speaker 1>Hines tartar sauce. Seriously, No, Well, honestly, Hines makes the

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<v Speaker 1>best match up, but they do not make the best

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<v Speaker 1>tartar sauce. Well, look I'm gonna take you. I'll tell

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<v Speaker 1>you a really recarch. No I don't make I've tried,

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<v Speaker 1>but I always want to add old Bay. And old

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<v Speaker 1>Bay actually doesn't really belong in a tartar sauce. It

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<v Speaker 1>belongs on whatever you're dunking in the tartar sauce. But

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<v Speaker 1>it muddies. It's a muddy sauce when you put it in,

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<v Speaker 1>when you dunk that in. Um No, I think so

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<v Speaker 1>Jones Jones on the fancy Jones on Third, or l

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<v Speaker 1>A Dean and de Luca. They have this tartar sauce

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<v Speaker 1>that's super good. And one time I went there for

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<v Speaker 1>a fancy lunch and I got like fish and chips,

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<v Speaker 1>and they didn't have the tarter sauce. And did you

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<v Speaker 1>go like Jack Nicholson, I demanded that. I went crazy

0:16:40.760 --> 0:16:46.760
<v Speaker 1>and I demanded, yes, exactly put it together together. They

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<v Speaker 1>were like, we haven't made it yet, and so I

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<v Speaker 1>was like, I'll wait. But then I waited for like

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<v Speaker 1>forty five minutes and it became this awful standoff where

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<v Speaker 1>I was just like I just and it made me realize.

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<v Speaker 1>I was like, all I wanted was just like a

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<v Speaker 1>vat of that tartar sauce, just to dunk anything in.

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<v Speaker 1>She just didn't want the fish. I just wanted to

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<v Speaker 1>see what else because that condatory dill sauce, which is

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<v Speaker 1>probably like all mayonnaise if I've never had that, ever

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<v Speaker 1>had that? What's that some weird sauce in a jar

0:17:10.720 --> 0:17:13.080
<v Speaker 1>that my mom got me into because it's probaly some

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<v Speaker 1>like fifties delight. Um. It's like a dill sauce that

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<v Speaker 1>you put with fish and it's really good. I'm like

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<v Speaker 1>hit or miss with dil. Dill is still is what

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<v Speaker 1>Solandro used to be to me. I will come to

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<v Speaker 1>terms with slant. I like all the herbs really, yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't like rosemary. I love rose I'm not into rosemary.

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<v Speaker 1>It can really ruin if you get like the rosted

0:17:35.080 --> 0:17:41.520
<v Speaker 1>potatoes and too much rosemary. Pine Needles, Pine Needles. Listen,

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<v Speaker 1>We've got bigger fish to fry. We're talking about Drake

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<v Speaker 1>and Kim. Now, oh, for those of you don't know

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<v Speaker 1>what we're talking about. A guy on Twitter laid out

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<v Speaker 1>of theory that um, Kim is Kiki in Drake's in

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<v Speaker 1>my Feelings, and that Drake and Kim hooked up. Also

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<v Speaker 1>that the song eight out of ten refers to Drake

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<v Speaker 1>and Kanye's ninth and ten X is maybe ninth and ten.

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<v Speaker 1>Think about it, because I'm throwing all this back to

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<v Speaker 1>you in a second. Um the lyrics from Drake's verse

0:18:08.119 --> 0:18:12.360
<v Speaker 1>on sicco mode. That's where the directions between like Drake's

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<v Speaker 1>house and Kanye's house somehow factor in UM and confirmed

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<v Speaker 1>somebody drew a map. Here's what I think. I don't

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<v Speaker 1>agree that kimis Kekey. There's no way, even though her

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<v Speaker 1>family calls her key and she fucking wishes um because

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<v Speaker 1>nothing about that song fits with her. It's all about

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<v Speaker 1>like a down to earth girl who you don't think

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<v Speaker 1>she's down to earth Molley. No, I do not think

0:18:42.080 --> 0:18:46.439
<v Speaker 1>she uh prefers Hennessy to Champagne. I think she just

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<v Speaker 1>like she's totally Champagne. She is not from the block

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<v Speaker 1>like she is Jenny and all the other lyric things.

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't buy any of it. I thought it was

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<v Speaker 1>they were all reaches. But I also thought it was

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<v Speaker 1>like a fun journey to get on. It was a

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<v Speaker 1>long thread, a long, a long, good sort of silly

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<v Speaker 1>thing to think about. Um, but I also don't rule

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<v Speaker 1>out the idea that they maybe had sex. All right,

0:19:14.080 --> 0:19:17.040
<v Speaker 1>you're taking a very neutral stance on this. Well. The

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<v Speaker 1>only thing that seemed at all potentially like it made

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<v Speaker 1>any sense was the thing of like, oh, Drake had

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<v Speaker 1>the song that he couldn't put out because it would

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<v Speaker 1>like destroy Kanye, because he he admitted to he was

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<v Speaker 1>like I have a diss that, like yeah, yeah, And

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<v Speaker 1>I think a lot of people assumed that it was

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<v Speaker 1>maybe like outing Kanye and that that was why it

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<v Speaker 1>like he didn't really sick, because it would have been

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<v Speaker 1>like a bad, bad look for him to do that,

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<v Speaker 1>you know anyway. Um, But then people were saying, no,

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<v Speaker 1>it's because it was about how he fucked him. And

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<v Speaker 1>then I like that Kanye called Drake insensitive because he

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<v Speaker 1>sent purple demon emojis. It's like it since you don't

0:20:00.600 --> 0:20:03.720
<v Speaker 1>bring the demon into something you don't want that. Do

0:20:03.760 --> 0:20:07.600
<v Speaker 1>you think they'll comment on it publicly? You know, I

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<v Speaker 1>kind of think it's all publicity from Drake's. I mean,

0:20:11.400 --> 0:20:14.639
<v Speaker 1>I think Kim is loving it. Of course she's denied it.

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<v Speaker 1>She's I think on Instagram she said like not true,

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<v Speaker 1>end of story, Okay, And oh yeah, this is like

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<v Speaker 1>the best thing that could possibly happen for her. Do

0:20:26.200 --> 0:20:28.480
<v Speaker 1>you think she genuinely enjoys it or do you think

0:20:28.520 --> 0:20:30.760
<v Speaker 1>she always I think the only thing she knows is

0:20:30.760 --> 0:20:34.080
<v Speaker 1>like attention. But do you think part of our attention? Um?

0:20:34.119 --> 0:20:37.600
<v Speaker 1>I think Kylie hates it a lot more openly than

0:20:37.720 --> 0:20:41.040
<v Speaker 1>Kim does. I think Kim has been she was like

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<v Speaker 1>probably the first one, you know, so she got probably

0:20:44.960 --> 0:20:49.159
<v Speaker 1>the most the most attention anyway, you know. And I

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<v Speaker 1>think also, you know, she's been a married lady for

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<v Speaker 1>she's got some kids. Now she's David Mary. You know,

0:20:56.520 --> 0:20:58.960
<v Speaker 1>she's ready for her like Madam Bovary face. I'm sure

0:20:59.200 --> 0:21:02.480
<v Speaker 1>you know I can see that happening. Uh, it's been

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<v Speaker 1>a while. It's time is so elastic when it comes

0:21:05.200 --> 0:21:10.320
<v Speaker 1>to the Kardashians, time is elastic. And uh, she's definitely

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<v Speaker 1>definitely not Kikia songs definitely not about it all right, Well,

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<v Speaker 1>night callers weigh in, Night Callers wig in to four

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<v Speaker 1>oh four six night and tell us what you think

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<v Speaker 1>about what Cam and Drake have been up to or

0:21:23.720 --> 0:21:27.080
<v Speaker 1>not up to. I just feel like, if Drake we're

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<v Speaker 1>going to pursue one of the Kardashians. Maybe there's also

0:21:30.880 --> 0:21:34.919
<v Speaker 1>rumors she's slept with other Kardashians. What other Kardashians. I

0:21:34.920 --> 0:21:39.120
<v Speaker 1>think there's a rumor he hooked up with Kylie Indoor Kendall.

0:21:39.640 --> 0:21:41.360
<v Speaker 1>I could see Courtney, what about all of them? Feel

0:21:41.359 --> 0:21:43.600
<v Speaker 1>like he and Courtney could really get along. Um. I

0:21:43.640 --> 0:21:47.399
<v Speaker 1>had a really life of her being experienced where I

0:21:47.560 --> 0:21:52.280
<v Speaker 1>was at uh the computer store, and a kid asked

0:21:52.320 --> 0:21:56.520
<v Speaker 1>how to use YouTube and then he was like asked

0:21:56.600 --> 0:21:58.320
<v Speaker 1>the guy who worked there, like, hey, hey, how do

0:21:58.359 --> 0:22:01.120
<v Speaker 1>I get to YouTube on here on this free computer?

0:22:01.280 --> 0:22:04.159
<v Speaker 1>And they pulled it up and then he typed in

0:22:04.680 --> 0:22:07.879
<v Speaker 1>a Nicki Minaj video and then when I walked past,

0:22:07.920 --> 0:22:10.600
<v Speaker 1>he like closed it. You're kidding no, And I was like,

0:22:10.640 --> 0:22:13.680
<v Speaker 1>oh my god, that still happened. Kids are still watching

0:22:13.760 --> 0:22:17.040
<v Speaker 1>music videos to get morny in like weird public places

0:22:17.200 --> 0:22:21.600
<v Speaker 1>and then being embarrassed when somebody looks at it. How

0:22:21.600 --> 0:22:24.520
<v Speaker 1>old was this person? There's a child? Okay, they were

0:22:24.520 --> 0:22:27.240
<v Speaker 1>a child. They were like probably like maybe they can't

0:22:27.240 --> 0:22:29.920
<v Speaker 1>watch it on their home computer, so they really sexy

0:22:30.200 --> 0:22:36.280
<v Speaker 1>too sexy? Um, I thought that was funny, puritanical upbringing.

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<v Speaker 1>I think we should take a night email. Hey guys,

0:22:43.200 --> 0:22:45.399
<v Speaker 1>not a call nor at night. It's a beautiful sunny

0:22:45.480 --> 0:22:48.320
<v Speaker 1>day here in Europe. Lucky you, but a fitting night

0:22:48.320 --> 0:22:51.160
<v Speaker 1>call topic. I think. I just listened to your episode

0:22:51.160 --> 0:22:53.960
<v Speaker 1>with Darcy who mentioned smudging and getting rid of ghosts.

0:22:54.280 --> 0:22:57.000
<v Speaker 1>I also just watched the excellent film A Dark Song

0:22:57.119 --> 0:23:00.840
<v Speaker 1>about a harrowing but intriguing occult ritual. I'm fascinated, But

0:23:00.960 --> 0:23:04.280
<v Speaker 1>so far I've never taken part in a ritual, Seancequiji session,

0:23:04.400 --> 0:23:07.320
<v Speaker 1>or anything like that. Many of my friends did, especially

0:23:07.359 --> 0:23:10.880
<v Speaker 1>the women who seemingly all had teenage wickens stories. Am

0:23:10.880 --> 0:23:13.640
<v Speaker 1>I missing out? Did the patriarchy keep me from having

0:23:13.640 --> 0:23:15.880
<v Speaker 1>a cult? Fund? Have you ever been in some sort

0:23:15.920 --> 0:23:18.560
<v Speaker 1>of ritual? And what would you or your listeners recommend

0:23:18.600 --> 0:23:21.280
<v Speaker 1>to start with? I hope my favorite podcasters can help me.

0:23:21.320 --> 0:23:26.320
<v Speaker 1>They're all the best Christian in con we were. We've

0:23:26.320 --> 0:23:29.960
<v Speaker 1>talked about it before this, Yeah, covid, it's because the

0:23:30.000 --> 0:23:33.040
<v Speaker 1>craft came out. It is we did. Astral traveling is

0:23:33.080 --> 0:23:37.439
<v Speaker 1>a great way to start astral traveling. Um, we just

0:23:37.600 --> 0:23:40.480
<v Speaker 1>you know. It's also it's a it's a weird spooky

0:23:40.560 --> 0:23:45.960
<v Speaker 1>time in your body is spooky mysteries. Ahood it is.

0:23:45.960 --> 0:23:48.080
<v Speaker 1>You're very powerless and you're just like, oh, wouldn't it

0:23:48.160 --> 0:23:50.359
<v Speaker 1>be cool if I could have any power at all

0:23:50.560 --> 0:23:53.960
<v Speaker 1>over anything, just like in the craft. Do you still

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<v Speaker 1>dabble in woo woo? Um, I'm not. You were just

0:23:58.480 --> 0:24:01.480
<v Speaker 1>saying you did tara reading. Recently did a tarot reading

0:24:01.520 --> 0:24:08.040
<v Speaker 1>on myself. You know we're Californians. Yeah, um, I waver.

0:24:08.240 --> 0:24:10.560
<v Speaker 1>You know because you've been to some witchy parties. Yeah yeah,

0:24:10.600 --> 0:24:12.400
<v Speaker 1>oh yeah, I went to a witch party, like last

0:24:12.400 --> 0:24:16.879
<v Speaker 1>week I was trying to draw, went to a moon ritual.

0:24:16.920 --> 0:24:18.440
<v Speaker 1>I would just think I have a very high tolerance

0:24:18.480 --> 0:24:20.200
<v Speaker 1>for stuff like that, especially when it's done with a

0:24:20.240 --> 0:24:22.440
<v Speaker 1>sense of humor. I think it's like, the more humorless

0:24:22.480 --> 0:24:25.119
<v Speaker 1>it is, the more likely I am to not be

0:24:25.200 --> 0:24:27.840
<v Speaker 1>into it. Also, if it costs money, then it's probably bad,

0:24:28.560 --> 0:24:31.720
<v Speaker 1>is my feeling about those things. But you also seem

0:24:31.800 --> 0:24:35.560
<v Speaker 1>to remember much of the tarot because when I was like,

0:24:36.160 --> 0:24:40.200
<v Speaker 1>I'm so nervous, he said, well death reverse death test.

0:24:41.160 --> 0:24:43.960
<v Speaker 1>Elena Smith, front of the podcast, has done some tarot

0:24:44.000 --> 0:24:50.000
<v Speaker 1>readings on me in recent years that were great, very great. Um,

0:24:50.040 --> 0:24:51.840
<v Speaker 1>you know, I don't like seek it out constantly, but

0:24:51.880 --> 0:24:53.520
<v Speaker 1>if somebody is like, hey, would you like me to

0:24:53.560 --> 0:25:00.520
<v Speaker 1>read your tarot cards, then I'll probably do it. Garrett, Well,

0:25:00.520 --> 0:25:05.320
<v Speaker 1>I think I've had this deck since college, and uh,

0:25:05.440 --> 0:25:07.600
<v Speaker 1>I haven't taken great care of it. So every so

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<v Speaker 1>often I feel guilty and like sitting in the sun

0:25:09.680 --> 0:25:11.760
<v Speaker 1>or the moonlight just to kind of like let all

0:25:11.760 --> 0:25:14.040
<v Speaker 1>the bad vibes go. Because once I stored it in

0:25:14.080 --> 0:25:16.159
<v Speaker 1>a dirty purse for like three years and then I

0:25:16.200 --> 0:25:17.960
<v Speaker 1>found it and I was like, oh, it had like

0:25:18.119 --> 0:25:20.520
<v Speaker 1>gum on it. But I was like, I can't throw

0:25:20.560 --> 0:25:24.919
<v Speaker 1>away this deck because then that sounds like a bad idea.

0:25:25.600 --> 0:25:27.840
<v Speaker 1>In fact, I can probably never get rid of it.

0:25:28.200 --> 0:25:30.520
<v Speaker 1>What do we do? Burn it? That seems worse? You

0:25:30.560 --> 0:25:34.520
<v Speaker 1>could probably put it to sleep? What does that mean? Uh?

0:25:34.560 --> 0:25:37.760
<v Speaker 1>And there's also like a superstition that somebody you're not

0:25:37.800 --> 0:25:40.440
<v Speaker 1>supposed to buy your own deck, someone supposed to buy

0:25:40.480 --> 0:25:43.440
<v Speaker 1>it for you. Maybe someone will buy you a new deck. Well,

0:25:43.480 --> 0:25:45.040
<v Speaker 1>I have to deal with this one first. I bought

0:25:45.080 --> 0:25:47.280
<v Speaker 1>this deck. Gets treated me really well, and so a

0:25:47.320 --> 0:25:49.960
<v Speaker 1>couple of nights ago, I was like, I should bust

0:25:50.000 --> 0:25:52.199
<v Speaker 1>out the old tarot cards. They've been sitting in a

0:25:52.240 --> 0:25:55.119
<v Speaker 1>bowl of crystals and uh, and I did and it

0:25:55.200 --> 0:25:58.000
<v Speaker 1>was and it was great also because it's nice to

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<v Speaker 1>do something tactile and like think about like the circumstances

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<v Speaker 1>of life without looking at a screen or even thinking

0:26:04.840 --> 0:26:07.720
<v Speaker 1>about anything that exists on a screen. Um. And I

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<v Speaker 1>I think tarot is a good way to get into

0:26:11.280 --> 0:26:15.240
<v Speaker 1>occult rituals. Well. Yeah, my first paid writing job was

0:26:15.440 --> 0:26:18.399
<v Speaker 1>in high school. I wrote for a deck of cards

0:26:18.480 --> 0:26:22.480
<v Speaker 1>that my brother's boss was designing. I forgot about this.

0:26:23.000 --> 0:26:25.639
<v Speaker 1>I forget what it was called. But he had like

0:26:25.680 --> 0:26:28.199
<v Speaker 1>designed a deck of cards and he needed like captions,

0:26:28.240 --> 0:26:30.280
<v Speaker 1>and I wrote the captions for them. They were like

0:26:30.440 --> 0:26:34.440
<v Speaker 1>a different set of like youngie and archetypes. And also

0:26:34.520 --> 0:26:37.120
<v Speaker 1>he was the manager of like the underground hip hop

0:26:37.119 --> 0:26:42.399
<v Speaker 1>record store. I want that tarot that, Um yeah, I

0:26:42.400 --> 0:26:44.840
<v Speaker 1>think I like had one. It was just sort of

0:26:44.880 --> 0:26:47.080
<v Speaker 1>like it was like a different type of like card

0:26:47.160 --> 0:26:51.360
<v Speaker 1>fortune telling that he had invented his passion project. Well,

0:26:51.400 --> 0:26:53.480
<v Speaker 1>a lot of people make their own tarot decks, and

0:26:53.520 --> 0:26:55.679
<v Speaker 1>I think it ends up taking forever because I think

0:26:55.680 --> 0:26:58.040
<v Speaker 1>there are seventy eight cards. Well, I think this was

0:26:58.080 --> 0:27:00.760
<v Speaker 1>like he had he had just made up his own sister. Okay,

0:27:01.040 --> 0:27:02.720
<v Speaker 1>so he was really fun. It was its own game.

0:27:02.840 --> 0:27:05.399
<v Speaker 1>I mean that's a little too loosey goosey, a different

0:27:05.400 --> 0:27:07.960
<v Speaker 1>type of fortune telling. Um, they have a deck that's

0:27:08.000 --> 0:27:11.800
<v Speaker 1>like Alison Wonderland base that's really popular. I could see

0:27:11.840 --> 0:27:15.040
<v Speaker 1>the benefits too, of doing your own deck so that

0:27:15.080 --> 0:27:17.119
<v Speaker 1>it's like the meaning of the card is more clear

0:27:17.160 --> 0:27:19.760
<v Speaker 1>to you, beyond just being like a fun way to

0:27:20.160 --> 0:27:23.239
<v Speaker 1>kind of do a s mr activities of like you know,

0:27:23.800 --> 0:27:27.600
<v Speaker 1>doodling around and practicing magic and stuff. You can kind

0:27:27.600 --> 0:27:30.199
<v Speaker 1>of cheat by like making things more explicit, like easier

0:27:30.200 --> 0:27:33.520
<v Speaker 1>to read for you. My friend Emma, who's going to

0:27:33.600 --> 0:27:36.920
<v Speaker 1>be at the night called Live Show, is a magician. Now,

0:27:37.080 --> 0:27:39.400
<v Speaker 1>she's a magician in training, and she's been doing card

0:27:39.400 --> 0:27:42.880
<v Speaker 1>tricks with a deck of cards, and man, what if

0:27:42.880 --> 0:27:45.280
<v Speaker 1>we all get really into card tricks. It's so cool,

0:27:45.400 --> 0:27:48.840
<v Speaker 1>it's so complicated. Everyone I know who has done card

0:27:48.880 --> 0:27:52.560
<v Speaker 1>tricks like that kind of magic. It just I'm like, wow,

0:27:52.600 --> 0:27:56.480
<v Speaker 1>how did you look so easy? Make it look so easy?

0:27:56.520 --> 0:27:59.760
<v Speaker 1>I mean there, but there are two different kinds of magic. Well, right,

0:28:00.000 --> 0:28:03.040
<v Speaker 1>if we're become both kinds, can you do both? Because

0:28:03.040 --> 0:28:05.000
<v Speaker 1>it's not one kind of like blowing the lid off

0:28:05.000 --> 0:28:08.840
<v Speaker 1>the other? No, I think one ones like creating illusion

0:28:09.119 --> 0:28:12.119
<v Speaker 1>and one's like believing in illusion. You're either like a

0:28:12.160 --> 0:28:16.240
<v Speaker 1>skeptical cynical motion. If one is mayonnaise and one is tartar, Okay,

0:28:18.720 --> 0:28:21.360
<v Speaker 1>that's fair. Which is the tartar sauce? The witchy one

0:28:21.440 --> 0:28:26.040
<v Speaker 1>is the tartars? I think we'll find out. If you

0:28:26.080 --> 0:28:27.959
<v Speaker 1>have thoughts on this, you can also email us at

0:28:28.000 --> 0:28:31.480
<v Speaker 1>Night Call Podcast at gmail dot com. Yeah, what is

0:28:31.520 --> 0:28:34.240
<v Speaker 1>your favorite occult star tests? Probably the same one as me. Well,

0:28:34.280 --> 0:28:37.960
<v Speaker 1>I love the psychic Yeah, psychic Psychic guy is the best.

0:28:38.040 --> 0:28:41.080
<v Speaker 1>We were talking recently because I had bought some sage.

0:28:42.200 --> 0:28:45.280
<v Speaker 1>As everyone can clearly tell, I'm in. I'm in you know,

0:28:45.400 --> 0:28:51.200
<v Speaker 1>disarray spiritually somding. Yeah, yeah, I was down you on

0:28:51.320 --> 0:28:54.040
<v Speaker 1>some Well, now I feel like I have to actually

0:28:54.080 --> 0:28:57.360
<v Speaker 1>go all the way and like grow my own sage,

0:28:57.680 --> 0:29:01.160
<v Speaker 1>which will be people why they shouldn't buy, say, which

0:29:01.200 --> 0:29:04.200
<v Speaker 1>is true. And listen, I did buy mine from a

0:29:04.240 --> 0:29:06.840
<v Speaker 1>bougie place, but at least it's like an independently owned

0:29:06.880 --> 0:29:09.520
<v Speaker 1>bougie place. Does that make it batter the House of Intuition? No,

0:29:09.560 --> 0:29:13.520
<v Speaker 1>it was wacco It was so planted wacco Um. I mean,

0:29:13.520 --> 0:29:15.880
<v Speaker 1>I really like those people, but they are doing something

0:29:15.880 --> 0:29:20.160
<v Speaker 1>bougie by co opting so the bougie you know, spiritual

0:29:20.200 --> 0:29:24.800
<v Speaker 1>places selling this stage are basically running the mom and

0:29:24.840 --> 0:29:28.000
<v Speaker 1>pop in there forever stores that are selling It's true,

0:29:28.320 --> 0:29:30.960
<v Speaker 1>It's true. They are they're taking all the stage there.

0:29:31.400 --> 0:29:33.360
<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, that was it is that they're like taking

0:29:33.400 --> 0:29:36.040
<v Speaker 1>all the resources of at the stage is like being

0:29:36.120 --> 0:29:38.760
<v Speaker 1>like pirate pirated or something. I mean, it's being harvarded

0:29:38.800 --> 0:29:43.959
<v Speaker 1>stage wars like like holy like sacred land maybe, So

0:29:44.000 --> 0:29:46.440
<v Speaker 1>that was It's a dual edged thing. And then I said,

0:29:46.520 --> 0:29:48.960
<v Speaker 1>I also feel like it's sold at all these stores

0:29:49.000 --> 0:29:53.120
<v Speaker 1>that are like gentrifying, botanicas out of neighborhoods, and so

0:29:53.240 --> 0:29:56.640
<v Speaker 1>it makes me angry on that level. Also because also stage,

0:29:56.680 --> 0:29:58.560
<v Speaker 1>I was not pleased to the smell of stage. I've

0:29:58.720 --> 0:30:01.880
<v Speaker 1>I've done it before, and I forget that there's the

0:30:01.920 --> 0:30:04.840
<v Speaker 1>top scent is like the smoky herbal scent. But then

0:30:04.880 --> 0:30:08.360
<v Speaker 1>the under scent is like a BO scent. Well, that's

0:30:08.400 --> 0:30:11.080
<v Speaker 1>a lot of hippie smells, Palo Santa, that's all the

0:30:11.160 --> 0:30:14.200
<v Speaker 1>hippie smells you're talking about. You're gonna remind the smell,

0:30:14.280 --> 0:30:17.560
<v Speaker 1>it's just gonna remind you of Bo because it's going

0:30:17.600 --> 0:30:21.520
<v Speaker 1>to remind you of like spaces, hippie spaces. Yeah. I

0:30:21.560 --> 0:30:23.239
<v Speaker 1>don't know, though, I don't really think it was just

0:30:23.280 --> 0:30:27.040
<v Speaker 1>that association. I think I was actually the smell nog chompa.

0:30:27.120 --> 0:30:30.400
<v Speaker 1>It just transports me to the Santa Monica third Street

0:30:30.440 --> 0:30:35.040
<v Speaker 1>promenade and being like twelve and being like, what is

0:30:35.080 --> 0:30:38.960
<v Speaker 1>that adult? And now the promenade is so different. Yeah, well,

0:30:39.000 --> 0:30:41.360
<v Speaker 1>you know, knock Chompa smells the same, It's true, and

0:30:41.560 --> 0:30:45.000
<v Speaker 1>something snock Chompa smells like adult. I remember you didn't

0:30:45.000 --> 0:30:49.080
<v Speaker 1>you buy like a weed incense in seventh grade that

0:30:49.080 --> 0:30:50.680
<v Speaker 1>would have an eighth grade if you're trying to give

0:30:50.680 --> 0:30:54.080
<v Speaker 1>me where credit, Like she was young, she didn't grade,

0:30:54.200 --> 0:30:56.040
<v Speaker 1>and you didn't smoke weed yet, but you were like,

0:30:56.440 --> 0:30:59.760
<v Speaker 1>but I was eager to try this weed incense and

0:31:00.120 --> 0:31:04.080
<v Speaker 1>freak out my hippie barring. Yeah, I'm sure they would

0:31:04.120 --> 0:31:14.920
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<v Speaker 1>an interesting tidbit about a museum I've never heard of. Yes, somebody,

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<v Speaker 1>I believe a couple of night callers have sent us

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<v Speaker 1>something about the vent Haven Museum. It's in Kentucky, in Kentucky,

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<v Speaker 1>which is a museum where ventriloquist dummies go to die.

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<v Speaker 1>It's a retirement place for ventriloquism community. And then we

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<v Speaker 1>were talking about this beforehand, whether ventriloquist dummies are scarier

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<v Speaker 1>than haunted dolls, and if so, why so they are?

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<v Speaker 1>That's what we decided basically, there is so as a

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<v Speaker 1>fan of The Twilight Zone, usual were like the puppet aspect.

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<v Speaker 1>It's scarier because puppets like already appeared to come to

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<v Speaker 1>life sometimes, so the idea that they would like come

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<v Speaker 1>to life when they're not being manipulated by a human.

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<v Speaker 1>It's also the expression that ventriloquists make when they when

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<v Speaker 1>their mouths are closed but they are speaking through their

0:33:59.520 --> 0:34:04.760
<v Speaker 1>dummy out. Everything about ventril aquism is a little scary

0:34:04.880 --> 0:34:10.319
<v Speaker 1>and also, uh, Darcy Wilder's dad has gotten into ventriloquism,

0:34:10.400 --> 0:34:13.719
<v Speaker 1>and she's been posting a lot of videos of her

0:34:13.800 --> 0:34:15.879
<v Speaker 1>dad doing ventrilocism that are really funny. And how did

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<v Speaker 1>he recently decide to get into ventriloquism. That's what all

0:34:18.760 --> 0:34:21.560
<v Speaker 1>her posts are like, I can't believe this is the thing.

0:34:21.960 --> 0:34:23.759
<v Speaker 1>Maybe it's her uncle, and I think it's her dad.

0:34:24.080 --> 0:34:25.960
<v Speaker 1>She's like, he's bringing the doll places. Well, there's that

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<v Speaker 1>great Freaks and Geeks episode about ventriloquism. I don't remember

0:34:31.960 --> 0:34:34.840
<v Speaker 1>one of the best episodes. It's about a kid whose

0:34:34.880 --> 0:34:40.120
<v Speaker 1>parents are having marital turmoil, and then he like uses

0:34:40.160 --> 0:34:42.960
<v Speaker 1>the ventriloquist dummy at like a big party for all

0:34:43.000 --> 0:34:47.680
<v Speaker 1>their friends to like talk about the parents, like marital problems.

0:34:48.480 --> 0:34:52.239
<v Speaker 1>That sounds amazing, and he's like Dad's having sex with

0:34:52.360 --> 0:34:55.640
<v Speaker 1>his assistant. It's so cringe e and good. It's a

0:34:55.680 --> 0:34:57.680
<v Speaker 1>really good episode. There is a lot of good art

0:34:57.760 --> 0:35:00.680
<v Speaker 1>about ventriloquism. But I was going to say earlier that

0:35:00.880 --> 0:35:04.040
<v Speaker 1>what really poisoned me about the Dummies was there were

0:35:04.080 --> 0:35:07.040
<v Speaker 1>these two Twilight Zone episodes, and I think one of

0:35:07.040 --> 0:35:10.239
<v Speaker 1>them is called the Dummy, and then the other one

0:35:10.520 --> 0:35:14.279
<v Speaker 1>is Caesar in Me, which is Jackie Cooper. Uh. But

0:35:14.400 --> 0:35:18.520
<v Speaker 1>in one of them, it's like the dummy bites the

0:35:18.560 --> 0:35:21.640
<v Speaker 1>guy the ventriloquist, and then the guys like, I need

0:35:21.680 --> 0:35:24.239
<v Speaker 1>a new dummy, and he gets a new dummy, and

0:35:24.320 --> 0:35:27.040
<v Speaker 1>like the old dummy gets mad and then I don't

0:35:27.040 --> 0:35:28.880
<v Speaker 1>want to spoil the end. Oh, I'm not going to

0:35:28.960 --> 0:35:30.560
<v Speaker 1>spoil it. You should watch that one. It's good. And

0:35:30.600 --> 0:35:34.080
<v Speaker 1>then the other one is I think it's like the

0:35:34.160 --> 0:35:38.359
<v Speaker 1>dummy is telling this this guy who's broke, and he's

0:35:38.400 --> 0:35:40.319
<v Speaker 1>trying to like make it as a ventrilo question. He's

0:35:40.360 --> 0:35:42.759
<v Speaker 1>not that good and the dummies like, just rob a bank,

0:35:42.840 --> 0:35:44.160
<v Speaker 1>Come on, rob a bank. And the guy's like, I

0:35:44.200 --> 0:35:45.680
<v Speaker 1>don't want to rob a He's like, come on, do it,

0:35:45.800 --> 0:35:47.640
<v Speaker 1>and he convinces the guy to rob a bank. And

0:35:47.680 --> 0:35:50.080
<v Speaker 1>then the guy eventually gets caught. And there's like the

0:35:50.640 --> 0:35:53.600
<v Speaker 1>girl who lives next door or whatever, and the dummy

0:35:53.680 --> 0:35:55.719
<v Speaker 1>then like tries to rope her in and he's like, hey,

0:35:55.840 --> 0:36:01.880
<v Speaker 1>like I like your hip attitude. Maybe you should no

0:36:02.200 --> 0:36:04.920
<v Speaker 1>kill your aunt with poisoned darts. So I was just

0:36:05.000 --> 0:36:08.520
<v Speaker 1>like it. Early on. I was like, Wow, these dummies

0:36:08.560 --> 0:36:11.680
<v Speaker 1>are diabolical. And in this museum there's nine hundred of them,

0:36:11.680 --> 0:36:14.320
<v Speaker 1>and they have ones that spit and smoke and do

0:36:14.440 --> 0:36:17.960
<v Speaker 1>all sorts of crazy stuff. I mean, it sounds like

0:36:18.000 --> 0:36:22.120
<v Speaker 1>a very scary place to be. Just a mad convention

0:36:22.200 --> 0:36:25.520
<v Speaker 1>full of ventrilo quis dummies is very scary. You're making

0:36:25.600 --> 0:36:29.279
<v Speaker 1>such a strong no face, honestly, and I'm like, you're

0:36:29.320 --> 0:36:31.239
<v Speaker 1>in the middle of Kentucky and you go there for

0:36:31.280 --> 0:36:34.879
<v Speaker 1>the convention. It's like a great horror movie. It does.

0:36:35.360 --> 0:36:37.520
<v Speaker 1>It kind of reminded me of the Black Mirror Finale

0:36:37.640 --> 0:36:41.920
<v Speaker 1>of like scary museum museum. I like a scary museum

0:36:42.440 --> 0:36:44.439
<v Speaker 1>but it's true. It's like you don't want to feel

0:36:44.440 --> 0:36:47.239
<v Speaker 1>an actual danger for your life. Yeah, and I don't

0:36:47.239 --> 0:36:49.960
<v Speaker 1>know the dummy Like I looked at a Pinterest board

0:36:50.040 --> 0:36:52.640
<v Speaker 1>of ventrilo quis dummy is. I'm like, when you see

0:36:52.680 --> 0:36:56.960
<v Speaker 1>a lot of them, it's really intense. It's no joke.

0:36:57.040 --> 0:36:59.640
<v Speaker 1>There's expressions, well, how do you feel when you see

0:36:59.680 --> 0:37:03.560
<v Speaker 1>just a lot of dolls? Not great, but not quite that.

0:37:04.760 --> 0:37:07.520
<v Speaker 1>I feel like so many of the things I know

0:37:07.600 --> 0:37:10.840
<v Speaker 1>about Twilight Zone episodes came from watching Simpsons episodes that

0:37:10.880 --> 0:37:14.720
<v Speaker 1>made jokes about like Treehouse of Treehouse of Horror, about

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<v Speaker 1>maybe the Treehouse of Horror, though, is not a ventriloquist dummy.

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<v Speaker 1>There's got to be a ventriloquist dummy one. We should

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<v Speaker 1>do a whole episode devoted to Treehouse of Horror. I

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<v Speaker 1>stopped pretty early on with the Treehouse of Horror. I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know why, Like I always looked forward to them

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<v Speaker 1>because it's legitimately so frightening, and I think probably yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>well because again, because the Twilight Zone episodes they were

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<v Speaker 1>ripping on were so scary, like to Serve Man one

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<v Speaker 1>that one gave me nightmares. To Serve Man for some reason,

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<v Speaker 1>wasn't that scary to well, the Simpsons were the King

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<v Speaker 1>and Kotos to serve man one, give me nightmares because

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<v Speaker 1>something about King and Kotos is so scary. Uh, give

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<v Speaker 1>us all your thoughts of Ventriloquist Dummies a two four

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<v Speaker 1>oh four six night Also, if you're enjoying the podcast,

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<v Speaker 1>or wherever you get your podcasts and Molly, before we

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<v Speaker 1>wrap up, do you think we have time for a

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<v Speaker 1>night call. Yeah, let's do a night call. All right, Hi,

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<v Speaker 1>a night call. This is Chris coming from Boston. Um So,

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<v Speaker 1>I had a question about ghost. Um So, a friend

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<v Speaker 1>of mine from college has a sister who is a

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<v Speaker 1>median and sees ghost can communicate with them, even has

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<v Speaker 1>a little girl um living in her house who died

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<v Speaker 1>there and she sees them. She can follow them, she

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<v Speaker 1>can hear them. Um. But I thought was interesting about

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<v Speaker 1>some of her stories is that one of her stories

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<v Speaker 1>involved a scantron test um insofar as my friend's younger

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<v Speaker 1>sister would show up to her high school and she

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<v Speaker 1>never had to study for staying scantron test because she

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<v Speaker 1>could just put her finger over the proper letter and

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<v Speaker 1>it would get warm on the correct answer. UM. And

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<v Speaker 1>I assume this was like the little girl giving her

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<v Speaker 1>the advice. But my question is our ghosts all smart? Um?

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<v Speaker 1>Or if some ghost like if you were alive an idiot,

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<v Speaker 1>do you die an idiot? Um? Or are they all knowing? Um?

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<v Speaker 1>Just thought this should be on a good discussion topic.

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<v Speaker 1>I love you ladies, enjoy your day. But I think

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<v Speaker 1>ghosts are as smart as they were in life. I

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<v Speaker 1>don't think you've become all knowing when you're a ghost,

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<v Speaker 1>but there might be something you mean, Like, I do

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<v Speaker 1>think the vampires tend to be smart because they've lived

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<v Speaker 1>for so long. Those aren't ghosts, no, but they've accumulated.

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<v Speaker 1>But there's something about like if you're immortal, like you

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<v Speaker 1>accumulate at well, they're old, they're wise. Listen though, here's

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<v Speaker 1>imagine are like frozen. Ghosts are invisible and they're everywhere.

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<v Speaker 1>So I don't think a ghost has to be that

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<v Speaker 1>smart because within a test setting, for instance, the ghosts

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<v Speaker 1>could easily know what teacher this girl had, go to

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<v Speaker 1>the teacher's house see her making the test, or go

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<v Speaker 1>to the like the E. R. B Enterprises Ltd. And

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<v Speaker 1>just be like Okay, so like little Cindy is going

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<v Speaker 1>to be taking this test, like I'm just going to

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<v Speaker 1>write down on my invisible piece of paper the answers

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<v Speaker 1>and then it's like it's just access. What a weird

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<v Speaker 1>thing for a ghost to use their their powers for.

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<v Speaker 1>I think it's a great thing. Like maybe your sister

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<v Speaker 1>is just smart. I mean, is it his sister or

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<v Speaker 1>his friend's sister, the sister the sister. The sister could

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<v Speaker 1>be smart, the sister could be playing kind of a

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<v Speaker 1>long con on you. But I like to believe in

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<v Speaker 1>ghosts that are helpful that way, study buddies. I also

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<v Speaker 1>feel like Scantron type tests are all like a scam,

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<v Speaker 1>So they're scamtrons, Scamtron's um and like what they reward,

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<v Speaker 1>like you know, they don't reward intelligence. Wait a second,

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<v Speaker 1>you're talking about a different So a Scantron test is

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<v Speaker 1>just a multiple choice A T s are like notoriously bad. Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>the s A T s are bad, but it depends

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<v Speaker 1>on who's writing the test. I mean, you can't fault

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<v Speaker 1>something just for having a multiple choice can't say all

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<v Speaker 1>multiple choice tests are bad. You can't. Why how could you?

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<v Speaker 1>It depends on the question. Well, I think they're they're

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<v Speaker 1>not as I like those open answer tests. Well, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>of course you like, because anything you can you can't

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<v Speaker 1>bullshit a multiple choice tests, so they suck bullshit a

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<v Speaker 1>multiple choice how I will tell you all the ways

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<v Speaker 1>because I was an s A T tude. Please tell me. Um,

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<v Speaker 1>it's process of elimination, y'all. But I mean there's still

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<v Speaker 1>a right answer. You're not bullshitting. You're just like finding

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<v Speaker 1>a quicker. It's easy. There's it's easy to scam because

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<v Speaker 1>it doesn't it rewards your ability to take the test.

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<v Speaker 1>It doesn't reward your like intelligence. Right, But I mean

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<v Speaker 1>any types ghosts are good at taking multiple choice tests. Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>well it would be really difficult for a ghost to

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<v Speaker 1>guide her through. Yeah. I just want to say we

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<v Speaker 1>can talk about our last topic is the song booed

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<v Speaker 1>up about a ghost. I want it to be so bad?

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<v Speaker 1>Have you listened to it since I suggested this and

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<v Speaker 1>thought about how it sounds like it's about a ghost. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>I tried, but it was too hard. Give me your

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<v Speaker 1>thesis again. I just was listening to my Boo by

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<v Speaker 1>ghost Town DJs, and I was like, oh, ghost ghost Town,

0:42:16.160 --> 0:42:18.960
<v Speaker 1>my boo and then I was like, I think Johnny,

0:42:19.000 --> 0:42:20.799
<v Speaker 1>my boyfriend, actually said it. He was like, what if

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<v Speaker 1>the song's about a ghost? Well, I like the fact

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<v Speaker 1>that ghosted has entered the lexicon, like being ghosted. It's

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<v Speaker 1>such a good and evocative term. So it kind of

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<v Speaker 1>makes sense that, like boot up, it's like everything now

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<v Speaker 1>has to be a little ghost Like if the ghost

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<v Speaker 1>doesn't ghost you, they like stay, they stay. Yeah, it's

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<v Speaker 1>being haunted. Episte of ghosting is haunting. I love the

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<v Speaker 1>verb haunt when it's like not about ghosts, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>like you've been just like haunting this or haunting. That

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<v Speaker 1>replaced the term dating with haunting with haunting. I love it.

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<v Speaker 1>We're mutually haunting. We're haunting, but we're not exclusively haunting

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<v Speaker 1>each other. Free to hunt, free to hunt wherever we're

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<v Speaker 1>roaming haunters. Wow, well, just great. This has been a

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<v Speaker 1>good pot This has been a cool jazz pod, just

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<v Speaker 1>like we we used to have at Boodie's Booties Jassie

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<v Speaker 1>Jazz Boo. And we're also so excited to see Emily

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<v Speaker 1>tomorrow night party. Emily, please don't be mad at us

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<v Speaker 1>for talking about sauces for so long. I get ready

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<v Speaker 1>to talk about you, Calls about sauces. We're gonna do it.

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<v Speaker 1>Please bring us your thoughts calls, Thank you for listening.

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<v Speaker 1>Thanks to see you next week.