Speaker 1: Hello the Internet and what.
Speaker 2: Man?
Speaker 1: Or leave it? Just leave it.
Speaker 3: I was saying hello to the internet, my good friend,
Speaker 3: to the Internet, and I was interrupted by my other
Speaker 3: new friend. Our guest today, our most returning US first
Speaker 3: time guests. We feel like we already know her. Welcome
Speaker 3: to Season three hundred, episode three of.
Speaker 1: Turn Day Guys Day production of iHeart Radio. This is
Speaker 1: the podcast where we take deep dive into Maershare Country.
Speaker 3: And it's Thursday, August seventeenth, twenty twenty three.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, Black Cat Appreciation Day.
Speaker 2: Shout out my cat birthday and shout out all the
Speaker 2: black cats out there.
Speaker 1: National we got a black Caday. Oh yeah, we.
Speaker 3: Got a black cat living in our backyard. Oh black
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Speaker 1: Nonprofit Day, Congressional Startup Day, National I Love My Feet Day. Interesting,
Speaker 1: National Massachusetts Day, shout out with it. The Bay State?
Speaker 1: What is the Massachusetts called it the Bay State? Is
Speaker 1: that right? Is it a commonwealth? Yeah?
Speaker 3: Commonwealth of Massachusetts?
Speaker 1: Yeah? Why am I? Why did I think? What is
Speaker 1: the Bay State? Never mind? Man? Yeah, it is Massachusetts?
Speaker 1: All right? Come on, now, I lived there and everything.
Speaker 1: I don't I don't remember that. Man. I played so
Speaker 1: much competitive hockey in New England. I should have that
Speaker 1: shit in my brain. You and your hockey team would
Speaker 1: always say Fellas were a state. That's what they say.
Speaker 1: Get your counter beans. We're in bean down. My name
Speaker 1: is Jack O'Brien aka.
Speaker 3: You turned me fudge round, baby fudge round, like a
Speaker 3: fudgie wudgie fudge.
Speaker 1: Round, round round.
Speaker 3: You turned me fudge round, baby fudge round. That is
Speaker 3: courtesy a Max Are twelve sixteen on the discord. Just
Speaker 3: imagining an alternate universe where all songs mentioned fudge fudge rounds,
Speaker 3: like that new viral country.
Speaker 1: Song by Oliver Something.
Speaker 3: It's Oliver's either his first name or his last name. Yeah,
Speaker 3: I can't remember.
Speaker 1: The Big Talent.
Speaker 3: The Mega Talent Show winner. The second verse if you've
Speaker 3: only heard the first verse, that's like a throwback to
Speaker 3: Pete Seeger. Stick around for the second which is a
Speaker 3: throwback to last night's gut Feld. It seems like it
Speaker 3: was written by Greg Guttfeld truly. Anyways, I'm thrilled to
Speaker 3: be joined as always by my co host mister Miles Grass.
Speaker 2: Miles Gray a kay Id dropped charge, popped, got hit
Speaker 2: with the rico, my cu cut judge of the state
Speaker 2: where I got got cat rigging the folk and I
Speaker 2: can't stop stop.
Speaker 1: Okay.
Speaker 2: Shout out to JM you sick one on Discord for
Speaker 2: that wonderful Trump version of Bad and Bougie. When you
Speaker 2: even uploaded a voice note on the Discord post, you
Speaker 2: were really trying to really get that Trump down.
Speaker 1: Appreciate that, Thank you, thank you for that instruction. Yes, yes, yes, yeah,
Speaker 1: that was beautiful. That was well done.
Speaker 3: We appreciate the voice message.
Speaker 1: Show's how it's done, Miles.
Speaker 3: We are thrilled to be joined in our third seat
Speaker 3: by one of the funniest comedians and podcasters doing it.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 3: God, we felt we felt like we were like, wait,
Speaker 3: is this really the first time you've been on Is
Speaker 3: this really the first time we've ever talked to each other? Yeah,
Speaker 3: because I definitely have like a parasocial relationship. I've been
Speaker 3: a fan from a distance of his appearances on various
Speaker 3: podcasts like how Many Bang Bang Dope Boys. He co
Speaker 3: hosts the podcast Get Played. He's one of a handful
Speaker 3: of people who I can remember hearing on I forget
Speaker 3: which podcast it was, but like I remember doing this
Speaker 3: with Gabriis and Carl Tart and our guest today where
Speaker 3: I was like, wait, who's this I'm like googling as
Speaker 3: a Yeah, who's this guy? Who's this guy a cigarette?
Speaker 3: And talking to Joe Pesci?
Speaker 1: Who is this guy? Who's this guy? Who's this guy? Anyways,
Speaker 1: it is the brilliant, the talented Matt. This is all
Speaker 1: too much. This is too much praise for your boy.
Speaker 1: I'm excited to be here. Yeah, we were saying that
Speaker 1: it's it's wild that this is my first time on
Speaker 1: I feel like we have a lot of we have
Speaker 1: a lot of mutual friends and that's on the show regularly. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I sort of know a lot of the guys, but
Speaker 1: I was like, I don't know those guys there seem
Speaker 1: they seem great. I'm happy. I'm happy to be here.
Speaker 1: I am really, really sorry that I interrupted. At the beginning.
Speaker 1: We were talking about how professional and like I keep it,
Speaker 1: and then immediately got too comfortable. Beautiful.
Speaker 3: It's just that I'm talking to my good friends the internet,
Speaker 3: that's right.
Speaker 1: And you know, I don't like how he doesn't like it.
Speaker 1: He doesn't like it. I pissed him off. I fucked up, man.
Speaker 3: We're also talking about that Gatoragge commercial. Oh yeah, the
Speaker 3: counterfactual Michael Jordan gatoragg commercial where where he's like, what
Speaker 3: if I wasn't like the sickest motherfucker who had picked
Speaker 3: up a basketball, like that would be so weird? Right, Yeah,
Speaker 3: what if it wasn't fucking awesome?
Speaker 1: I was watching these commercials yesterday on on Get Played.
Speaker 1: We were talking about the Donald Trump Pizza Hut commercials. Yeah,
Speaker 1: because he was he was kind of their spokesperson for
Speaker 1: a while. Was it the Big New Yorker? It was
Speaker 1: from the Big New Yorker. Yeah, and he eats the
Speaker 1: pizza crust first because it had the stuff crust too,
Speaker 1: And we were positing that they like had to come
Speaker 1: up with crust stuff crust pizza because that's how he
Speaker 1: eats pizza anyway, and they had to justify why he
Speaker 1: would do that. I like, yeah, from the back. Yeah.
Speaker 3: And then it was just like, no, that's actually how
Speaker 3: I meant to do it, how everybody should do it
Speaker 3: that way. I'm normal, You're you're insane.
Speaker 1: His style is to just scrape the toppings off. He
Speaker 1: just eats the topics. He in a bowl. Would he'd
Speaker 1: rather in a bowl?
Speaker 3: The old pizza bowl? Just which is I feel like
Speaker 3: that was a was a product that was launched at
Speaker 3: some point by just pizza chain, just the like pizza bowl, like.
Speaker 1: I think Papa Papa John's did. Yeah, which again feels
Speaker 1: like something creations. Yeah, very nasty. The people that Papa John's. Wait,
Speaker 1: there was a pizza Wait what what was in it?
Speaker 1: It was just toppings. It's like cheese, sauce, pepperoni. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you probably want to be a little more vegetable forward
Speaker 1: to be eating something like that, but it's probably not
Speaker 1: that many in there. Oh.
Speaker 3: It does again feel like this is Trump like getting
Speaker 3: involved somehow.
Speaker 1: Here's what you do, Papa, he calls the invisible him
Speaker 1: behind the pizza chain world.
Speaker 2: It truly is like the onion meats trio, Poppa Bult.
Speaker 2: It's just pepperoni, sausage, meatballs stop topped with three cheeses
Speaker 2: and Italian seasoning baits to perfection in our signature sugar sauce.
Speaker 1: That does seem uniquely American, though, does it not? Like that?
Speaker 1: Like that type of food, the fact that that counts
Speaker 1: as food, it's so childish, like that's what we're shamelessly
Speaker 1: indulge our childish impulses where it's like I don't want
Speaker 1: to eat the pizza. I just want to go on
Speaker 1: the top, Like yeah, okay, fine. Meanwhile, the rest of
Speaker 1: the world is like the fuck are you doing? Yeah,
Speaker 1: like the fact that you can get like truffle mac
Speaker 1: and cheese and like act like it's not a dish
Speaker 1: for children.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Or like you go to you get a Starbucks
Speaker 2: and you get a train to sized Pinole's. That's the
Speaker 2: capacity of a wine bottle, sir.
Speaker 1: But okay, we just have a couple of bottles of
Speaker 1: bottles of wine. Yeah, three full bottle of prappuccino, you know, propaccino.
Speaker 3: We have four or five bottles propaccino. All right, Matt,
Speaker 3: we're gonna get to know you a little bit better
Speaker 3: in a moment.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 3: First, we're gonna tell our listeners a couple of things
Speaker 3: we're talking about today. We got some good news out
Speaker 3: of a Montana court, So we're gonna talk about that
Speaker 3: with regards as regards climate change, as regards the future
Speaker 3: of the planet, as regards Ron DeSantis is just like whatever, Okay,
Speaker 3: clearly I won Let's just move on here. So we're
Speaker 3: gonna talk about that. I'm trying to shoehorn a video
Speaker 3: game story in. Since Matt, you are a video game dude,
Speaker 3: I'm a gamer guy, as they're called.
Speaker 1: A game dude. Shout out game dude. The best video
Speaker 1: game store in La? Yeah? Is that right? Oh yeah,
Speaker 1: it's in North Hollywood. It's like a big warehouse and
Speaker 1: they have fucking everything like you can get you can
Speaker 1: get that Genesis shit right there. The cartridges are crisp.
Speaker 3: That has to have come on online, like late eighties,
Speaker 3: early nineties.
Speaker 1: I have been going there since the early nineties, like
Speaker 1: since ninety two. Whoa a bit of a game dude?
Speaker 3: Yoh yeah, all that plenty more. But first, Matt, what
Speaker 3: is something from your search history?
Speaker 1: Okay, Well, yesterday I was googling The Walking Dead and
Speaker 1: I kind of went down like a rabbit hole because
Speaker 1: I fell off of the show and I used to
Speaker 1: love the comics, and I was like, oh, do I
Speaker 1: like get back into us? But now I see that
Speaker 1: there are like four spinoff shows that I just didn't
Speaker 1: just didn't watch, and the show ended in it's eleventh season.
Speaker 1: I was like, there's just no way I'm gonna be
Speaker 1: able to do. There's now like a Star Trek amount
Speaker 1: the Walking Dead that I'm just never gonna I probably
Speaker 1: never will get catch backed up. But I was just
Speaker 1: kind of seeing what each one of them was. So
Speaker 1: a lot of the searches, it's just like the various
Speaker 1: like Wikipedia entries for each show, and then it's like,
Speaker 1: why is that person have a strange name? And I
Speaker 1: was like, Oh, I've seen them in this and this
Speaker 1: and this or whatever, and so I kind of just
Speaker 1: went down a walking A Walking Dead rabbit hole was
Speaker 1: the most recent recent walking like how many. There's like
Speaker 1: Fear the Walking Dead. There's Fear the Walking Dead. There's
Speaker 1: Dead City, which is a sequel to The Walking Dead.
Speaker 1: There's the Daryl Dixon Show that's also a sequel. There's
Speaker 1: a prequel, isn't there. There's a there's what's it called, Oh, shoot,
Speaker 1: let me pull it up that hes up the Walking Dead,
Speaker 1: the Walking Dead World Beyond. Yes, Yeah, that one is
Speaker 1: like a story set in the future or something. And
Speaker 1: then there's a new Oh there's a new one coming
Speaker 1: out that brings back Rick Grimes and Macheon. And that one,
Speaker 1: I believe is called The People Who Live or something
Speaker 1: like that My god. Yeah, it's or The Ones who
Speaker 1: Live is coming in twenty twenty four because they were
Speaker 1: gonna they Andrew Lincoln left the show and they were
Speaker 1: gonna do these movies with him as Rick Grimes, and
Speaker 1: he was gonna be like a blockbuster like action hero basically,
Speaker 1: and they just never did that. They just like never
Speaker 1: did so he took him out of the show. He's
Speaker 1: like the best guy there and he's like the lead
Speaker 1: of the comic book series too, and they took him
Speaker 1: out of the show. They're like, we got to be here,
Speaker 1: we got to put him in movies, and then they
Speaker 1: just never did it. And now they're bringing him back
Speaker 1: for a spinoff series after the show has ended. Weird,
Speaker 1: it's like.
Speaker 3: The character left TV to pursue a film career, exactly
Speaker 3: like usually it's like the actor, like Clooney leaves the
Speaker 3: yard to pursue a film career.
Speaker 1: You like the character, and it like it fails to launch. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but there's just too many now and I am interested
Speaker 1: in catching up, but I just don't know if I'll
Speaker 1: I just don't know if I'll do all that. Yeah,
Speaker 1: when did you like?
Speaker 2: What is there is there a season that they consider
Speaker 2: like the peak because I stopped watching after Frank Dearrebanc
Speaker 2: was like off it.
Speaker 1: I was like, I stopped with it for a while.
Speaker 1: I actually probably did. I was thinking about this yesterday
Speaker 1: and I was like, when did I stop watching it?
Speaker 1: Like because there was a census or where I or
Speaker 1: at least I thought it was like the show has
Speaker 1: kind of fallen off, but I'm still watching it, like
Speaker 1: I kind of stick with shows even if I don't
Speaker 1: love it, Like I watched all of Dexter, like I've
Speaker 1: seen every day. Yeah, are you gonna watch it?
Speaker 3: Because that's an expanded television universe that's coming, right.
Speaker 1: I can't watch. Oh did you watch the New Ship too?
Speaker 1: I watched the new one too?
Speaker 2: Oh did they make amends for just the I mean
Speaker 2: once it ended? I was like, all right, yeah, fuck
Speaker 2: you two.
Speaker 1: I thought I thought the new thing, I can't remember
Speaker 1: what it was called. I thought it was pretty good
Speaker 1: compared to the final season of how it ended. But
Speaker 1: I don't think they can ever capture the heights of
Speaker 1: the John Lithgow season like that was just like such,
Speaker 1: that was like lightning in a bottle. The show was
Speaker 1: not that good before that and never as good after that,
Speaker 1: Like it was just like a lucky strike kind.
Speaker 2: Of when Edward James almost was a fucking figment of Yeah, motherfuckers.
Speaker 2: I was like, you really went that deep in the season,
Speaker 2: be like sorry, y'all, this was just some fake shit,
Speaker 2: this bigment of motherfuckers.
Speaker 1: I was like, this is terrible. Right anyway, when winded
Speaker 1: Walking Dead peak just so I know when to go
Speaker 1: up to. I feel like when Megan comes, when Jeffrey
Speaker 1: Dean Morgan comes into the series, that's like, it's it's
Speaker 1: it's huge in the comics too, Like he's such a
Speaker 1: presence and he's such a like dominant figure in the series,
Speaker 1: and he's such like a like just a top villain.
Speaker 1: I think that like, and Jeffrey Dean Morgan's performance and
Speaker 1: it is so so great that I think it elevated
Speaker 1: it to quite a bit because also, like you're you're
Speaker 1: you're used to the core group at that point and
Speaker 1: you're like, oh, ship, now he's in here, and he's gonna,
Speaker 1: you know, if you're familiar with the comics, start getting
Speaker 1: some RBIs. But he like he's baseball, Yeah, he's he's
Speaker 1: a big baseball bat guy. Let's say and let's say
Speaker 1: he hits dangers, this guy, but he they sort of
Speaker 1: I don't know they they he does it, and then
Speaker 1: he's around for a little bit, but then they, like
Speaker 1: I heard, they like make him good, and like, I
Speaker 1: don't think. I don't remember if the comics ever made
Speaker 1: him good. But then, you know, I stuck through it
Speaker 1: with until Andrew Lincoln left. I was like, you know what,
Speaker 1: I think we're good here. This is fine. I think
Speaker 1: I'm done. Thanks though, And that was always like season six,
Speaker 1: season seven or something, and it went like five more
Speaker 1: seasons like oh shit, okay, we'll good to know this
Speaker 1: round six. Yeah.
Speaker 3: Are they all like kind of of the same quality
Speaker 3: like that, because it seems, yeah, like that's the impression
Speaker 3: I get, like The Walking Dead and then like Dead
Speaker 3: City and yeahs also seem to be like all named
Speaker 3: by somebody who was like trying to come up with it,
Speaker 3: like he had fifteen minutes to come up with. Yeah,
Speaker 3: the names of every series reds next twenty years. Yeah,
Speaker 3: he's like, okay, we're just I'm just gonna rapid fire
Speaker 3: some off. Just like there's of course the Ones Who Live, which.
Speaker 1: Doesn't sound like it sounds like a daytime soap, Like
Speaker 1: it doesn't sound like it's one of the Walking Dead
Speaker 1: universe or just like a plot description. Yeah, yeah, it's
Speaker 1: just about the ones who live you call.
Speaker 3: It like the Final Girls or like you know some
Speaker 3: some none. No, it's just like the they're the ones
Speaker 3: who like the ones from the other part where the.
Speaker 1: People a bunch of bunch of Harry Potters walking around, right,
Speaker 1: But I think there I haven't. I don't know anybody
Speaker 1: that watched the spinoffs and were like these are as good,
Speaker 1: like these are like, yeah, these are these are of
Speaker 1: similar quality because like the Free Darbont season was kind
Speaker 1: of like its own thing because it was like pretty
Speaker 1: serious and not that the other shows became like less
Speaker 1: serious or whatever, but they became pulpier. I think like
Speaker 1: his was more of a grounded take and his like
Speaker 1: after that it became just like a horror like you know,
Speaker 1: sort of just like blockbustery type of like show. Yeah. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I was all about the art when it comes to
Speaker 1: Zombie Apocalypse now, yeah, it was more yeah, it was
Speaker 1: it was more. Yeah, like it was cinema as compared
Speaker 1: to you know, the m c U of the of
Speaker 1: the Walking Dead universe. Dead City. Yeah, welcome to dead City.
Speaker 1: This city is dead. What what's something you think is overrated? Man? Okay,
Speaker 1: so you you immediately had beef with this as soon
Speaker 1: as yeah, I told you, oh you haven't revised. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I haven't revised. This is not called out a switch
Speaker 1: blade and licked the fucking blade. We were like, oh yeah,
Speaker 1: I opened one and it was it was a comb
Speaker 1: and I was like, yeah, like it hurts, it hurts,
Speaker 1: it hurts. Yeah. Ow. But I think of of the
Speaker 1: big candies, Reese's Peanut butter cups are overrated, and I'm
Speaker 1: gonna go ahead and give you this grace. I'm not
Speaker 1: talking about the little guys. I'm talking about the regular
Speaker 1: sized ones. You know, the ratio is off too much
Speaker 1: peanut butter, I think so tours peanut. But like the
Speaker 1: the little ones, you know the ones that I'm talking about,
Speaker 1: like you get little the little not of minis, but
Speaker 1: like the little guys, Yeah, that's that's it. I'll have
Speaker 1: one of those a year and be like that was
Speaker 1: great and I cannot eat any more than that. Have
Speaker 1: you had the big the kings, like the big cup?
Speaker 1: You think I'm gonna go big when I think the
Speaker 1: regular size is the bad.
Speaker 3: But I will tell you that their chocolate ratio is
Speaker 3: a little bit more similar to the little Guy chocolate,
Speaker 3: just like blown up to a train toss.
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, Or like the one that was like fourteen
Speaker 1: they got they got Wayne's Lensky in the lab and yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: it's the size of a you know, average laptop. Okay,
Speaker 1: like the fourteen inches.
Speaker 2: I think the diameter was fourteen inches for that one,
Speaker 2: and it like sold out instantly again because America is
Speaker 2: filled with people who are like, yeah, I want big
Speaker 2: resist cup.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm just talking about the ones that are called
Speaker 3: the big cup I think, or something big.
Speaker 1: Size, kind of the ones that have like the chips
Speaker 1: in them and ship those are those? Yeah, those are
Speaker 1: potato chips, the pretzels. I didn't. I didn't know. I
Speaker 1: because I don't keep up with the line. I gotta
Speaker 1: I gotta get in there and see big one. These
Speaker 1: are the walking dead spin offs of the you know,
Speaker 1: because I'll check in on what's going on, you know,
Speaker 1: I'll try a new eminem. Eminem has got a new
Speaker 1: flavor every couple of years or something. Do you try
Speaker 1: the brownie one? I tried the brownie one, and I tried.
Speaker 1: They had like a pepper one, like a like not
Speaker 1: pepper mint, but like a spicy one, and what it
Speaker 1: was bad, but I tried it. That's what I do
Speaker 1: every time I go to like the pharmacy, if I
Speaker 1: go to like CVS or some ship, because that's usually
Speaker 1: where like you can like once I walk, they have
Speaker 1: they perfectly place all that bullshit like yeah candy, yeah,
Speaker 1: and I'm like, fuck it, I'll buy three bags of
Speaker 1: whatever the fuck eminem this whatever combinations. Yeah, I'm like
Speaker 1: birthday cake, fucking hershey kisses and shit. Yeah, why you
Speaker 1: know what birthday cake. They don't have to do that.
Speaker 1: I think that's becoming overrated. Yeah, that's a little too much.
Speaker 1: And if I had to revise it, and I don't
Speaker 1: think I'm allowed to, I do think I would probably
Speaker 1: say birthday cake instead of reces. But since I can't
Speaker 1: revise it and I'm not being allowed to do that,
Speaker 1: it is going to be on your tomb. Yeah. Yeah,
Speaker 1: we did get an official ruling and yeah, yeah, it's
Speaker 1: already edged into my gravestone unfortunately. So yeah, there's not
Speaker 1: there's not a whole lot I can do about it.
Speaker 1: Matt appadaka and then underneath get in a ship about Candy,
Speaker 1: Ye Candy, dumb ass. Sorry man to go hard on that. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it sucks that it's I'm being roasted, but you know
Speaker 1: what posthumously, Yeah, yeah, it is what it is. I
Speaker 1: can't I can't defend myself. I'm dead, I go on.
Speaker 3: I just have to say this out loud because it's
Speaker 3: like in my head. Now you're really mad at me,
Speaker 3: and I'm so mad at you, and I want you
Speaker 3: off the show right now.
Speaker 1: The show's over.
Speaker 3: You have people talked about how your name is like
Speaker 3: what like perfect to be pronounced by forty before.
Speaker 1: No, I've not heard that. I've heard it's hard to pronounce.
Speaker 1: You guys nailed it right away, which was fantastic. How
Speaker 1: would E forty say it? That's pretty good? If I
Speaker 1: ever it was like Pascal Siakam, I thought you were
Speaker 1: doing Christopher walking like that's good.
Speaker 3: Wow.
Speaker 1: I would like anyone of you who has a specific
Speaker 1: way of speaking, if you would like to take a
Speaker 1: crack at my last name. I know Walkin's listening, go off.
Speaker 1: I'd love to hear it. But it has to be
Speaker 1: because you talk a specific way, not because you're gonna
Speaker 1: have fun saying it in the wrong way, you know
Speaker 1: what I mean? Yeah, you have to be like, yeah,
Speaker 1: William Shatner's got to say it. Actually, you know what, Shatner,
Speaker 1: keep my name out of your mouth. I don't need to.
Speaker 1: You've said that, you've been saying I've been saying it.
Speaker 1: I was like, if Shatner ever mentions me it's on site,
Speaker 1: that's it. It ugly, it's ugly. I think, Yeah, catch
Speaker 1: my hands, that's it. Yeah. My first instinc was just
Speaker 1: to go like walk a floka. Oh that's very good, doc,
Speaker 1: Doc Devalier, I thought you were going to say that
Speaker 1: most of the word podcast is in my last name,
Speaker 1: which is true. Yeah, yeah, you yeah, exactly, Yeah yeah.
Speaker 1: The idea was really thought of until they got to
Speaker 1: me in the Wait a second, let's start this. Let's
Speaker 1: make everybody who would ever actually make money from it
Speaker 1: do that first, and then we'll get him in there.
Speaker 1: I don't know everybody's been saying that behind your back.
Speaker 3: You know.
Speaker 1: That's true. Yeah, that's that's good company for me. I'm happy.
Speaker 1: I'm happy with you. I know it is. But if
Speaker 1: I was as good as her at podcasts, the industry
Speaker 1: would be different. Baby, what is something you think is
Speaker 1: under it? Okay, I don't know if you guys are
Speaker 1: going to agree, but I do think that when people
Speaker 1: talk about movies and they talk about trilogies and they
Speaker 1: talk about like sacred trilogies, this one gets left off.
Speaker 1: Nobody's really talking about this one in that same conversation.
Speaker 1: And I think it deserves to be up there with
Speaker 1: some of the greats. And it's the more recent Planet
Speaker 1: of the Apes trilogy, starting with Rise Dawn and War
Speaker 1: of the Planet of the Apes. I think all three
Speaker 1: of those movies fucking whip ass. They're so good. I
Speaker 1: really enjoyed the first two. The third one got good reviews.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and I didn't see it, and I don't and
Speaker 3: I love movies, and for some reason, like yeah, I
Speaker 3: know what you mean, Like there was just something about
Speaker 3: the culture at the time that was just like, I
Speaker 3: don't know, man, we're kind of over the ship. You
Speaker 3: want you will see monkey ride a horse?
Speaker 1: Come on, what are you not even just monkey ride
Speaker 1: a horse, Monkey ride a horse, jumping through fire, shooting machine. Guy,
Speaker 1: it was rules. It's that if that movie came out, now,
Speaker 1: that's the only thing people would be talking about this year.
Speaker 1: They're like, I show this fucking crazy thing.
Speaker 2: This just rebranded as like apes on Cocaine, and then
Speaker 2: you'll be because like is War of the Planet of
Speaker 2: the Apes When they have the showdown on the suspension bridge.
Speaker 2: The second I think, I think, so, well, there's a
Speaker 2: lot of like gorillas, like where the gorillas pull up
Speaker 2: and they're like, yo, watch me throw some like bring
Speaker 2: a helicopter.
Speaker 1: Okay, Yeah, that is the second one, Yes, because they
Speaker 1: have retreated into the woods. They're further away from San Francisco.
Speaker 1: In War, they're like somewhere else completely, I think, because
Speaker 1: the first one is Merily in San Francis.
Speaker 3: Rise has the Rise the Suspension Bridge.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and then they get in there. The second one
Speaker 1: they sort of now are more talking and you know
Speaker 1: they're still humans. And then War is like it's of
Speaker 1: course you miss that one. Yeah, with Woody Harrelson like
Speaker 1: leading all these fucking humans and ship. Yeah, it's it's
Speaker 1: fucking great. It's so good. And Gary Oldman's in the
Speaker 1: second one. It's got some star power behind these behind
Speaker 1: these ones.
Speaker 3: The guy went and saw the second one, I was like, no, notes,
Speaker 3: these seem to be getting like way the first one,
Speaker 3: I really enjoyed the second one. I was like, this
Speaker 3: is like way better. I can only imagine what the
Speaker 3: third one is going to be. Like Yeah, and then
Speaker 3: I didn't see it. It's like the very rare blockbuster
Speaker 3: that's like gets good reviews that I just like didn't see.
Speaker 3: So I don't know what it was just but I
Speaker 3: am part of the problem. I will admit there.
Speaker 1: I think give it a spin, check it out. I
Speaker 1: think it's so good and I think it's like, I
Speaker 1: don't know. Steve's On plays a monkey in the in
Speaker 1: War and I'm a big z On head. I love
Speaker 1: Steve Yeah, and he's he's so good in it. I
Speaker 1: loved him in this season The Gemstone. He's When I
Speaker 1: found out that he was in it, I was like,
Speaker 1: let's I'm ready for Steve's On to take over. I'm ready.
Speaker 1: I thought it was gonna happen after White Lotus, and
Speaker 1: I thought he was gonna be in a bunch of stuff.
Speaker 1: I have a big pitch for him, and maybe I
Speaker 1: should say I think I think he should be in
Speaker 1: a season of Fargo, and I think he'll bring home
Speaker 1: some hardware. I think he fucking ripped and oh yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: a limited drama poised. Yeah yeah, we're ready for the renaissance.
Speaker 3: But he does need to have a little interlude. Yeah,
Speaker 3: it's it's interesting that he I didn't know he was
Speaker 3: in the third Planet of the Apes. Does he play human.
Speaker 1: Or he plays a monkey? He plays like an ape
Speaker 1: that they did like experiments on and so, but he's
Speaker 1: like kind of he so he's kind of like fucked up. Oh,
Speaker 1: is he the one in the trailer that looks like
Speaker 1: all hairless as ship? Yeah, he wears a jacket because
Speaker 1: he doesn't have any hair, because he's he wears a
Speaker 1: jacket because he's cold. But he's really funny in the wait,
Speaker 1: is that the one where they said it was dressed
Speaker 1: like Jerray McKesson. Oh? I know, because do you remember
Speaker 1: this Jack? I remember we were talking about this that
Speaker 1: like one of them like he was wearing like a
Speaker 1: blue like padded vest type ship. Yeah, okay, so he
Speaker 1: does wear a vest in the movie. Yeah yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: And I remember when we were covering this. I remember, damn,
Speaker 1: this is how fucking back this show was going, where
Speaker 1: people were like that monkey is dressed like Jerray McKesson
Speaker 1: and everyone was like what you're saying.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, But he has a moment in White Lotus
Speaker 3: where he like does like ape man an ape man
Speaker 3: thing that's weird, Like he gets drunk and then starts
Speaker 3: being like pounding his chest. He brought it, he used
Speaker 3: that he's using different parts.
Speaker 1: Yeah, he's that's why he's just so good. Yeah. And
Speaker 1: that they're making they're gonna be making some renaissance renaissance.
Speaker 1: They're gonna continue from war into whatever else, and like
Speaker 1: they this. The thing that is good about these movies
Speaker 1: is that it should didn't work because you know what
Speaker 1: it's building to you, Like the Planet of the Apes
Speaker 1: is such a famous movie, and like everybody knows the
Speaker 1: story of the movie. It's not on paper interesting how
Speaker 1: they get to that point where somebody, you know, where
Speaker 1: Charlton Heston comes back and is like, get your hands
Speaker 1: off me, you damn dirty ape. That's not interesting. But
Speaker 1: every single one of them tells us such a cool story.
Speaker 1: It rocks. They're so good. That's amazing.
Speaker 3: All right, this is a great underrated I'm not gonna
Speaker 3: comment on your overrated, but this is a.
Speaker 1: Great It's okay. I know that you're mad and no
Speaker 1: there's something I can do about it. But that's probably right.
Speaker 3: I think the only reason that I don't have the
Speaker 3: same take on recent's peanut buttercups is that I partake
Speaker 3: in all the different varieties, and so I can when
Speaker 3: I'm feeling a little over peanut buttered, I can always
Speaker 3: go to the King.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and I I don't always give it a try
Speaker 1: because they're around. Like sometimes I'm like, I want a
Speaker 1: little piece of candy. Oh, I got Reese's here. I
Speaker 1: don't love that. Let me see if I if it's changed.
Speaker 1: And every single time and take a bite, I'm like,
Speaker 1: I don't like it that much.
Speaker 3: I will say, you should just stop trying, because nobody
Speaker 3: it doesn't tell me you like them in the world
Speaker 3: doesn't doesn't seem like you like them, and nobody else
Speaker 3: in the world sees that.
Speaker 1: And it's like, oh man, Reese's. Everybody else is like, hell, yeah,
Speaker 1: they got for somebody that wants one, I'm taking one
Speaker 1: bite and toss it in the dang trash.
Speaker 3: Yes, absolutely, all right, Let's take a quick break and
Speaker 3: we'll come back and we'll talk about some news.
Speaker 1: We'll be right back.
Speaker 3: And we're back, and this is actually gonna be a
Speaker 3: full Reeseis show. I guess there's climate change news. But
Speaker 3: Myles was checking out the line up and cream Have
Speaker 3: you had Reese's creamy nurse?
Speaker 1: Crunch out of here?
Speaker 3: Wow?
Speaker 1: Crunchy, I could with I could give that a world.
Speaker 1: They put the recent Cereal puffs in it. Oh okay, creamy?
Speaker 1: Is that creamy? Pan? No? No, no, no, that's a
Speaker 1: different Yeah, the one is creamy peanut butter versus. It
Speaker 1: was like a cream anywhere? Oh y, can I can
Speaker 1: I comment on the Cereal real quick? Yeah? I always
Speaker 1: felt like as a as a person of color, I
Speaker 1: always thought that that Cereal was exclusively marketed to people
Speaker 1: of color, and because there's never white children in the commercials,
Speaker 1: it was like, what is going on here? This is
Speaker 1: for us? The puffs are like really on point in
Speaker 1: terms of skin tone, like these are real skin tones? Yeah? Absolutely, yeah.
Speaker 2: I quite literally see myself in the Cereal So in
Speaker 2: that sense, it was drawing me, like I'm off to
Speaker 2: the flame exactly.
Speaker 1: Yeah. I was like, this Cereal is not for white children.
Speaker 3: I know.
Speaker 2: I think they those commercials really were. They're like, you
Speaker 2: ain't cool enough to eat this ship?
Speaker 1: White kids go back to your tricks. Yeah exactly, because
Speaker 1: this ship definitely ain't for kids. Yeah, it's like you. Yeah,
Speaker 1: because one was like, wasn't it like a wrap one?
Speaker 1: Yeahs puff Reesius puff peanut butter flavor. Oh man, I
Speaker 1: didn't know these. I think I was like old, Yeah, you.
Speaker 3: Have been around when this was being I think they were.
Speaker 3: I was like, yeah this, I was like listening to radio,
Speaker 3: like the jaredital Radio Hour. But like I think these
Speaker 3: hit when I was like in middle school, so I
Speaker 3: wasn't like watching Saturday morning cartoons anymore.
Speaker 1: Yeah. See, oh there's one white homie. There was one
Speaker 1: white homie with the two. They gave him. Yeah, they
Speaker 1: they invited him, but like.
Speaker 2: Very but he plays a very like tertiary role in it,
Speaker 2: because like the main accent between the two black guys
Speaker 2: were like, yeah, this is good.
Speaker 1: Look I'm gonna go ahead and say it. He's lucky
Speaker 1: to be there.
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, yeah exactly, and then like afterwards, like don't
Speaker 2: think you can start using the N word, Brad, Yeah yeah,
Speaker 2: because you like the cereal just you were just part
Speaker 2: of the commercial.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and then this one too. Yeah it's true. I mean, look,
Speaker 1: Rees's maybe they were they've been a civil rights leader
Speaker 1: this whole time. And you know what, that's why I'll
Speaker 1: always vow to take at least one bite of any
Speaker 1: Reese's cup, I see, even if I don't like it.
Speaker 3: And that's why neoliberalism work, you know, because there's money
Speaker 3: being spent to change hearts and minds via Recee's commercial.
Speaker 2: Right, exactly the same way I'll eat Little Caesars because
Speaker 2: the owner paid for Rosa Parks rent.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, you know what. All right, I see you
Speaker 1: salute the champions. But anyway, good news. Shall we move
Speaker 1: on to Yeah, let's talk about some good news.
Speaker 2: So, despite the ongoing tragedy in Maui, on Maui, it
Speaker 2: seems like we have like an actual bit of good
Speaker 2: news on the climate front. So this judge in Montana
Speaker 2: ruled in favor of a group of young plaintiffs like
Speaker 2: between ages like five and up to like around twenty
Speaker 2: two or twenty one, that sued the state basically to
Speaker 2: change the state's laws underscoring their right to live in
Speaker 2: a you know, fucking healthy world. They basically argue that
Speaker 2: their constitutional rights were being trampled on, like being trampled
Speaker 2: on because the state, like actually legally mandates a policy
Speaker 2: that you know, like prioritizes fossil fuel use and also
Speaker 2: like the development of fossil fuel use.
Speaker 1: So like it's just very like, yeah, it's on our books.
Speaker 1: We love fucking gasoline and dino juice. Right, And there's
Speaker 1: also a part of those like mandates that actually make
Speaker 1: the state literally ignore the impact of fossil fuel use
Speaker 1: in greenhouse gas emissions. They're like, don't even look at that. Shit,
Speaker 1: it's our policy in the state of Montana. So basically
Speaker 1: they went full earth buck and the plaintiffs argued that
Speaker 1: the Montana Constitution grants them the right to a clean
Speaker 1: and healthful environment also like you know, dignity, help and safety, happiness,
Speaker 1: equal protection under the law. And they're saying, this, shit,
Speaker 1: if you're mandating this kind of nonsense, that completely that's
Speaker 1: violating our constitutional right.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and the judge heard enough, ruled in their favor
Speaker 2: and has now enjoyed the state from implementing these laws
Speaker 2: in the future.
Speaker 1: So it's done. So a very small thing, but many
Speaker 1: people are pointing to the fact that this is really significant. Yeah,
Speaker 1: And like a lot of policy people see this as
Speaker 1: a new tool to fight back because when all the
Speaker 1: facts and science and like are presented along with the
Speaker 1: impacts on the future generations, there seems to be a
Speaker 1: consensus that this amounts to a true constitutional violation that
Speaker 1: has to be considered.
Speaker 3: Yeah, like it's it should be against the law for
Speaker 3: them to poison the future.
Speaker 2: Right, Yeah, it's just because like I think it's abstract
Speaker 2: where it's like, well you can't dump radioactive waste by
Speaker 2: a school. Like it's the same thing where it's like,
Speaker 2: well we're not seeing it now, so it shit's just
Speaker 2: going in the air that who knows what impact that has,
Speaker 2: And now that they're articulating it, it's yeah, it's it's.
Speaker 3: Just pointing out that the current laws actually like mandate
Speaker 3: that you do destroy the earth.
Speaker 1: Yeah. I think it's an easy one.
Speaker 2: It was probably the easiest one to go for because
Speaker 2: you're like they're literally saying ignore the fucking science here, Yeah,
Speaker 2: like at our detriment, Like so what gifts.
Speaker 1: Something I like about this story is that it includes
Speaker 1: that the ages of the plaintiffs. The plaintiffs were five
Speaker 1: to twenty two, Like it's like making it possible that
Speaker 1: it was the five year old that was like we
Speaker 1: got to do something about it. Yeah. Yeah, I mean, hey, hey, hey, hey,
Speaker 1: get off your fucking PlayStation. Yeah yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2: I'm five years old and I'm looking at my outlook
Speaker 2: and I'm feeling fucked over.
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah. And then they're like, okay, let him cook,
Speaker 1: let him Cook's fine, Yeah for me, doesn't need an
Speaker 1: app No, he's being lit serious, Okay, just happened. He
Speaker 1: just happened. That's why he's so energetic. Right, he was
Speaker 1: arguing in front of the judge, like you know, rightimate change,
Speaker 1: climate change.
Speaker 3: But it does seem to be like something inherently like
Speaker 3: I don't know, this is definitely anecdotal, but it feels
Speaker 3: like young children are just like, yeah, no, I'm like
Speaker 3: a vegetarian because why wouldn't I bear you fucking crazy,
Speaker 3: It's like, you're six, what are you talking about? But
Speaker 3: they're just it seems like through just living in a
Speaker 3: world that is like completely deranged and completely fucking the future.
Speaker 3: Then yeah, like the message is getting to them despite
Speaker 3: the best efforts of kind of the mainstream media.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't know how a little kid could look
Speaker 1: around now and be like this seems fine, Like it's
Speaker 1: like everything is just good, markedly bad that like kids
Speaker 1: today have to be like, hmmm, yeah, what ten years left,
Speaker 1: I'll be sixteen. Let's see if I can try to
Speaker 1: fix this thing. Like it's weird too, like how my
Speaker 1: am Like I used to be like, man, these young
Speaker 1: kids don't know. We was out here on bicycles and shit,
Speaker 1: yeah man she was. You could get you know, those
Speaker 1: fucking beautiful you used.
Speaker 3: To go around to playgrounds and say yeah, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 3: fucking know, push kid over, now, turn on the swing.
Speaker 1: Yeah. But then like now I'm truly like, damn, these
Speaker 1: kids aren't gonna know some of the things like I
Speaker 1: in my own little baby, and I'm like this, I
Speaker 1: don't even know what the fuck his world is going
Speaker 1: to look like compared to the shit that I had.
Speaker 2: And I'm like, damn, Like it's that's kind of an
Speaker 2: l And now you realize, you know, this is truly
Speaker 2: like this is the real fight that has to that
Speaker 2: is taking place because this isn't the only place where
Speaker 2: lawsuits like this are happening. Because when in Hawaii, like
Speaker 2: in there are other states. Because again, it seems like
Speaker 2: a pretty good tool to use to try and counteract
Speaker 2: dino juice addiction.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it feels and again, like as we talked about
Speaker 3: in our episode about Ministry for the Future, like we
Speaker 3: are in a unique position being inside the United States,
Speaker 3: Like we're in the belly of the beast, and like
Speaker 3: other countries are, you know, already kind of working with
Speaker 3: the new reality and just like in acting policies, but
Speaker 3: the US is still in this bizarre cognitive dissonance spiral.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and then we're like, why is everyone so unhappy?
Speaker 3: It's like right, because like there's a very clear reality
Speaker 3: that everyone's having to just like lock out and ignore
Speaker 3: to like get through their day.
Speaker 1: To day lives. Yeah. Absolutely, it's not good for you.
Speaker 1: Can't be good for you. No, No, you have the
Speaker 1: ocean's boiling in Florida, Like like people are just like
Speaker 1: I just won't think about that.
Speaker 2: I'll just think about how my I got third degree
Speaker 2: burns from walking on the sidewalk.
Speaker 3: Yeah, so hot outside, kidney, dude, we're going hot tubbing
Speaker 3: in the ocean.
Speaker 1: It's fucking tight. Yeah, that's so cool. So just can't
Speaker 1: stand for more than ten minutes or else. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: you'll actually cook from the inside. Yeah, so you only
Speaker 1: want to get in there for just a little bit.
Speaker 1: You're not on blood thinners, are you? We need your
Speaker 1: blood kicking there.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, you know that metaphor about like the frog
Speaker 3: and the boiling water, Like that's actually not a metaphor anymore.
Speaker 1: It's just like all these frog reality you need to.
Speaker 3: Get the fuck out of there now. Well, speaking of Florida,
Speaker 3: let's check in down there real quick, Rond de Santis.
Speaker 3: This is like I'm enjoying Ron de Santis's campaign.
Speaker 1: I did not think I would not.
Speaker 3: Hutting in, but man, he is bad at this and
Speaker 3: just there's not a true like note he is not
Speaker 3: he has yet to hit like a note that wasn't
Speaker 3: just like you know, just sour and like false and
Speaker 3: completely like incapable of connecting with humans in any way.
Speaker 1: And then like every headline that comes out every week
Speaker 1: is some version of like people like Rond de Santis
Speaker 1: till they fucking meet him, like they're just be doing
Speaker 1: to his There's so many permutations of that and the
Speaker 1: other ones like is Ron de Santis's biggest problem? Ron
Speaker 1: de Santis? What's so funny because like I feel like
Speaker 1: a lot of these guys come out of the woodwork,
Speaker 1: like even like like you know, they start talking, they
Speaker 1: start campaigning, and then they just like reveal himselves to
Speaker 1: be the biggest freaks on Earth, like like like a
Speaker 1: couple of years ago when I didn't know, I mean,
Speaker 1: he was blessed to not know who Ted Cruz was,
Speaker 1: and then he shows up and then he's just like
Speaker 1: the biggest dueb on planet Earth. Yeah, it's like this
Speaker 1: guy fucking sucks. He's like not even like not that
Speaker 1: like his policies would be better if he was cool,
Speaker 1: but like he can't even pretend to be like a
Speaker 1: normal man. Well yeah, he's just like there's he has
Speaker 1: like every terrible fall, like he's a coward, like on
Speaker 1: top of being like a racist and like violently ignorant.
Speaker 1: Is like he doesn't stand for any not even his
Speaker 1: own wife. You're like, yeah, are you at a little girl?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 2: So you know Ron DeSantis Now he's like trying to
Speaker 2: fucking rite the ship, like he's trying to be like,
Speaker 2: I'm the optics are so bad around everything I do,
Speaker 2: Like I need fucking help. And he recently proclaimed that
Speaker 2: he's moved on from his feud with Disney, which is
Speaker 2: one of those central conflicts that has made him look
Speaker 2: like the most pet let asshole out there. Yeah, and
Speaker 2: so again, just to break it down again, if you recall,
Speaker 2: Disney decided to speak up way too late in the
Speaker 2: game when DeSantis decided to roll out his don't say
Speaker 2: gay bill, and people were like, uh, Disney's like, oh yeah, yeah,
Speaker 2: I actually yeah, this is bad, and people like thank you.
Speaker 2: It was weeks late, but thank you for saying something.
Speaker 2: This upset rob and he decided to nullify Disney's like
Speaker 2: autonomous zone in Orlando and install his own puppet board.
Speaker 2: And there's all that's like legal fucking maneuvering. This led
Speaker 2: Disney to file a lawsuit against DeSantis and the state
Speaker 2: for what they described as quote a targeted campaign of
Speaker 2: government retaliation. True, and this led to just a ton
Speaker 2: of people roasting him, Like even Donald Trump's like, oh,
Speaker 2: you got an a fight with Mickey Mouse and you
Speaker 2: got it humiliated, and like you know, everyone was just
Speaker 2: fucking roasting his ass. And now his latest quotes about it,
Speaker 2: he's like trying to act like this whole thing wasn't
Speaker 2: in l the whole time. This is the last thing
Speaker 2: he just said on CNBC. We've basically moved on. They're
Speaker 2: suing the state of Florida, and they're going to lose
Speaker 2: that lawsuit. So what I would say is drop the lawsuit.
Speaker 2: So all we want to do is treat everybody the
Speaker 2: same and let's move forward. I'm totally fine with that,
Speaker 2: but I'm not fine with giving extraordinary privileges, you know,
Speaker 2: to one special company at the exclusion of everybody else.
Speaker 1: This guy really just pulled the middle school like I'm
Speaker 1: winning this fight, so you might as well, yeah, walk away.
Speaker 1: Jim Robinson in the opening sketch of season three, when
Speaker 1: I start to lose, I look at my phone, like, truly,
Speaker 1: it really doesn't feel like we're like in middle school,
Speaker 1: like kids like talking shit that someone claps back and
Speaker 1: makes them look like an absolute fool and then they go,
Speaker 1: I'm actually I'm over it. Actually, like I wasn't even happy,
Speaker 1: Like this wasn't even a fight anyway. Yes, right, come on,
Speaker 1: fuck it right off.
Speaker 3: It's impressive, Like I've just that we've gotten to a
Speaker 3: place where this was like the great hope for defeating
Speaker 3: Donald Trump. And he's just he's so bad. Every he
Speaker 3: can't like, can't make a move that doesn't make him
Speaker 3: look like absolute ship.
Speaker 2: Yeah, he's just he's just a device, as Chris Crofton
Speaker 2: would say, you know what I mean, Like he just
Speaker 2: kind of goes where, like the shitty wind blows and
Speaker 2: he has no real thought and like so he's just
Speaker 2: trying to like he's just grasping at a ton of.
Speaker 1: Ship and yeah, he's like sideshow Bob stepping on rakes.
Speaker 3: But like as a guy, yeah, yeah, yeah, all right,
Speaker 3: let's take a let's take another quick break, and we'll
Speaker 3: come back and talk about some pop culture.
Speaker 1: We'll be right back.
Speaker 3: And we're back and let's talk video games. Hey, we
Speaker 3: so rarely do it on this podcast, do you guys
Speaker 3: not game miles games?
Speaker 1: Game? Oh yeah, yeah, I'm I'm right now, like Blue
Speaker 1: sing so many a lot of time playing Civilization six
Speaker 1: on switch? Right, Oh interesting, Okay, I just love playing
Speaker 1: the computer. And I was like, oh I'm gonna just
Speaker 1: download this real quick. It was a plane game. And
Speaker 1: then now I've like I love yeah yeah game okay,
Speaker 1: yeah yeah, console or otherwise just not on PC. I
Speaker 1: have the switch. I play wordle. You play Wordle on switch? Yeah.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm a pretty serious gamer.
Speaker 1: That's glad to get into that. That's really cool that
Speaker 1: you have, like probably the only switch that has wordle.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 1: You see how he holds it too. You see how
Speaker 1: he holds it vertically. Oh interesting, Yeah, that's cool. I'm
Speaker 1: glad you have a game that you like, and that's
Speaker 1: cool that you have Wordle on switch. It's like such
Speaker 1: a unique that's really cool for you. I like to
Speaker 1: play the New York Times crossword Puzzle on Switch. Yeah yeah, yeah, Okay, guys,
Speaker 1: we're gonna have to talk offline. I don't think you
Speaker 1: know what the game switch is, this guy is. The
Speaker 1: important thing is to know to switch gamer. Yeah, people
Speaker 1: like me.
Speaker 3: So there's there's this sim game, a city planning sim
Speaker 3: style video games. So here's the thing about me. I
Speaker 3: will listen to a video game podcast describe video games
Speaker 3: to me that I've never played and that I probably
Speaker 3: never will play. And I find it very interesting to
Speaker 3: hear about video games. I find the promise very interesting,
Speaker 3: you know.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's a lot of We get that feedback a
Speaker 1: lot when people are like, I don't even play video games.
Speaker 1: I just like the show and hearing you guys talk
Speaker 1: about them, and I'm just like, that's that's I love it.
Speaker 1: That's great. I don't understand, but I love it because
Speaker 1: I don't listen. I don't seek out things that I
Speaker 1: don't do myself to, Like I don't listen to podcasts
Speaker 1: about like welding or whatever. I like it because I
Speaker 1: don't have an interest in it. But it hats off
Speaker 1: to all the welders. I think it's like.
Speaker 2: It's also like the twitch thing too, where I was
Speaker 2: always amazing, like motherfuckers are just watching people Like I'm like, no,
Speaker 2: give me the control.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Then you sit down and you watch it and
Speaker 1: you're like, I'm just like more captivated by this than
Speaker 1: any TV show I watched this year. It's the way
Speaker 1: he makes the characters talk shit to each other's red
Speaker 1: did though he's almost speaking Yeah. The saltiest response is
Speaker 1: it's fun.
Speaker 3: So this game, like people are talking about how City
Speaker 3: Skylines two is coming out. I guess the first one
Speaker 3: came out in twenty fifteen. It's sold like twelve million
Speaker 3: copies since coming out, and it's like a city planning
Speaker 3: sim game. The video that I watched, I watched two videos,
Speaker 3: and I will tell you which of them I recommend.
Speaker 1: One.
Speaker 3: In one, a guy builds a town on top of
Speaker 3: a volcano and just absolutely repeatedly continuously pelt his city
Speaker 3: with meteors meteor strikes, and his solution for storing his
Speaker 3: town's sewage is to put it all in the volcano.
Speaker 3: And then it doesn't doesn't end well, oh my god,
Speaker 3: So for.
Speaker 2: Like the sanitation in whatever department, like, he just routes
Speaker 2: all of it to go into like the fucking.
Speaker 1: Into the volcano. I'll burn it. Yeah.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and then by the end there's a huge catastrophe.
Speaker 3: And then the other one was like an actual city
Speaker 3: planner being like all right, it's I'm gonna like do
Speaker 3: do this and see how it compares with the realm.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and that one is boring. Burn this shit with magma,
Speaker 1: I get it. I get it. I mean if you
Speaker 1: could weaponize magma, yeah, why not, Yeah, or use it
Speaker 1: as a way to deal with the you know, refuse.
Speaker 1: So yeah, yeah, we're not using magma enough, I think.
Speaker 1: And that's something absolutely I think we should do that
Speaker 1: probably has no ramifications on the climate. I think we
Speaker 1: should probably so switch to magma.
Speaker 3: Yeah, what's the is it Greenland or Iceland one of
Speaker 3: those that's like mostly volcanic powered, like the whole, the whole.
Speaker 3: I think it's Iceland, is like everything is like just
Speaker 3: pipes that are working with underground.
Speaker 1: Energy.
Speaker 3: Anyways, it's a possibility that we should all be looking into.
Speaker 3: But there's like there's cool stuff like you have you
Speaker 3: can build like hydro electric dams and windmills and you know,
Speaker 3: figure out how you want to power things. But it
Speaker 3: seems like for this second one, they are taking a
Speaker 3: turn more towards the actual city planning version, and there's
Speaker 3: going to be I'm hoping you can still do probably,
Speaker 3: but I think they're adding more of an economic element
Speaker 3: to it. And now your city can go broke. There
Speaker 3: will be like waves of layoffs, there will be homelessness
Speaker 3: epidemics in.
Speaker 1: Cities, labor too, like as an option. Is that real? Yeah? Wow,
Speaker 1: oh my god.
Speaker 3: So it'll be interesting, Like they're definitely opening themselves up
Speaker 3: to because because anytime you're like having a city simulation
Speaker 3: video game, like there are political choices tied up in
Speaker 3: that right right right. If you decide to go like
Speaker 3: full libertarian and like that's the way to like run
Speaker 3: a successful city, then you're probably leaving something out and
Speaker 3: like that reflects a political choice there. But I don't know,
Speaker 3: this seems like it's more tilted in a here's what
Speaker 3: actually has happened.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's I think it's like a really interesting teaching
Speaker 2: tool too, because it's like, I video games have taught
Speaker 2: me a lot of shit, like whether it's incorrect history
Speaker 2: or what fucking flags look like because I was playing
Speaker 2: so much Carmen San Diego as a kid.
Speaker 1: Right.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it has the capacity to like give you sort
Speaker 2: of new ways of thinking. Like you can see it
Speaker 2: with sports, like how Madden has affected how like even NFL,
Speaker 2: like people play like physical football and shit like that,
Speaker 2: but like.
Speaker 3: How insufferable people are to talk to about football who play.
Speaker 1: It's definitely that. But like with like a game like
Speaker 1: this though, like where you're trying to do like you're
Speaker 1: you know, you're you're in aging in like a sim game.
Speaker 1: But it's also like you're now having to actually consider
Speaker 1: these like sort of economic socioeconomic factors as to how
Speaker 1: that works. I'm sure there's gonna be people who are
Speaker 1: like fuck it, like I just want to burn everybody
Speaker 1: with volcanic shit. But then I'm sure like other people
Speaker 1: like to even see what those relationships are like in
Speaker 1: whatever your disposition is as a person, you're gonna want
Speaker 1: to be like, oh, no, like, how do I optimize
Speaker 1: like the everybody doing well in this city?
Speaker 2: Oh, I need to tax people. Oh there's revenues here
Speaker 2: from all these like rich people, because those are all
Speaker 2: these like levers that you can pull in the game.
Speaker 2: So and I'm I'm really interested in it just because
Speaker 2: part of me wants to be like, yeah, I know
Speaker 2: how to do this and then cut to my shit
Speaker 2: burning down with liquid magma shit.
Speaker 1: But hey, we'll Seeah, there's this video game that I
Speaker 1: love so much called Disco Elysium and oh yeah, just
Speaker 1: got that on switch. You're gonna love it. It's so
Speaker 1: it's like such a unique RPG, pointing click like adventure
Speaker 1: type game. And what it is is you're a detective
Speaker 1: who has amnesia and you're trying to solve a mystery
Speaker 1: of like one, who you are, why you're there, and
Speaker 1: this murder that has taken place. And the reason I
Speaker 1: bring it up is because you can sort of align
Speaker 1: politically with different political parties and that affects how you
Speaker 1: play the game. So like you could side with fascists,
Speaker 1: you could side with like these like neoliberal type people,
Speaker 1: or you can be an anarchist and do sort of
Speaker 1: like your own thing, and that's like wild. That's a
Speaker 1: wild choice too. And it's interesting because these developers who
Speaker 1: are from Europe. I can't remember exactly where who made
Speaker 1: this game, Like you're winning. Yeah, it's like sort of
Speaker 1: just like there is from Europe. Well, they sort of
Speaker 1: had a more nuanced take on it than like an
Speaker 1: American development team might have because they like thinking about
Speaker 1: things a little more holistically. So, but you can play
Speaker 1: the game a bunch of different ways and in different playthroughs,
Speaker 1: be like a completely different guy basically, even though you're
Speaker 1: still the one character. But it's interesting because they had
Speaker 1: to sort of account for any sort of other political
Speaker 1: choice you might make, so like if you follow the
Speaker 1: fascist ending, you you know, stick with that, and there's
Speaker 1: like the other like things you can do within that
Speaker 1: as well that you know, I didn't pick that one,
Speaker 1: like a totally different game, Yeah exactly. Yeah, Like that's
Speaker 1: really interesting. So like something like this, the city Planning one,
Speaker 1: I would hope that it wouldn't have like I also, well,
Speaker 1: this is my sincere hope. I would hope that it's
Speaker 1: made by good people and that there's not a fascism
Speaker 1: part of it.
Speaker 2: At all, Right, where it's like, yeah, everything looks way
Speaker 2: cooler when you go full fash.
Speaker 1: Yeah exactly. Yea, yeah, yeah, you get a bunch of
Speaker 1: thses for like being the front racy. But like I
Speaker 1: would imagine that if it is like sort of like
Speaker 1: a singular point of view, that yeah, things are probably
Speaker 1: being left out, like there's not everything is being accounted for,
Speaker 1: and that's that is interesting. I wonder how city builders
Speaker 1: too will handle it. Yeah, It's it seems like there's
Speaker 1: a lot of like input. I mean like cause there
Speaker 1: are really trying to replicate like how you relationships work,
Speaker 1: like are so popular and so like beloved. Now there's
Speaker 1: so there's like a power washing simulator game and people
Speaker 1: just like like that because watching power watching things are
Speaker 1: like so satisfying, Like then you doing it yeah, is
Speaker 1: like its own thing too. It's like it's it's such
Speaker 1: a fun thing.
Speaker 2: Yeah, because like I was just playing you know, a
Speaker 2: Jedi Survivor and like that super fun and like hacking
Speaker 2: them up with lightsabers. But then like I I've just
Speaker 2: been playing so much Civilization and I realize it's like
Speaker 2: the difference between like playing like sort of these like
Speaker 2: tent pole games that are super like action packed are
Speaker 2: just kind of like these really huge bursts of energy,
Speaker 2: whereas like when I play SIMS, I feel like I'm
Speaker 2: sculpting something because it takes time.
Speaker 1: Like it's not the game, you know, it's just it's
Speaker 1: a it's as in depth as you want to go.
Speaker 1: So I think because of that, the like the way
Speaker 1: you engage with it as much deeper and much more patient.
Speaker 1: And I think, I don't know, like I'm finding myself
Speaker 1: really liking that part of gaming again, Yeah, the process
Speaker 1: of it, rather than like the instant dopamine hit of like,
Speaker 1: oh shit, can I use dual lightsabers and fucking cut
Speaker 1: this droid in three? I loved that game as well,
Speaker 1: and that was just specifically why because I loved I
Speaker 1: loved the Kylo Ren stance. Yeah, that heavy stance. I
Speaker 1: just loved dripping through people like that. I was all
Speaker 1: using the blaster, you know what I mean? Oh yeah,
Speaker 1: with that you know always you never never, never caught lacking.
Speaker 3: That that game is Like, once my seven year old
Speaker 3: finds out that that game exists, like I will lose
Speaker 3: him as a human being.
Speaker 1: Oh you will be gone from me. You gotta go
Speaker 1: incremental man like he just runs.
Speaker 3: Around our house pretending to do the ship that you
Speaker 3: guys just described, just like all that.
Speaker 4: He's just like oh right, yeah, he's like yeah, yeah,
Speaker 4: does he have a little lightsaber? Oh yeah, yeah yeah,
Speaker 4: oh hes got lightsabers. He's also got like just anything
Speaker 4: becomes a lightsaber. You know, like four markers going and.
Speaker 1: That was such a thing. Yeah, that was like the
Speaker 1: ultimate thing you could do with markers.
Speaker 2: And that's like a baton and ship and then you
Speaker 2: always got mad when you hit something and just fucking shattered.
Speaker 3: Because yeah, this is probably an impossible question and not
Speaker 3: one I should be asking with like a minute left
Speaker 3: in our show, But like what would you say, Like
Speaker 3: how's the political content of the video game industry compare
Speaker 3: to like, you know, movies are made in Hollywood and
Speaker 3: they like think of themselves as being pretty liberal, but
Speaker 3: then like they're also you know doing the work of
Speaker 3: the military and ship, Like is it like kind of
Speaker 3: the same in the video game industry?
Speaker 1: Is it? I feel like a lot of video game
Speaker 1: games don't really do. Like there are some games that
Speaker 1: are like overtly like political. Like there's this game called
Speaker 1: Papers Please, where you're like at like a border and
Speaker 1: like you are checking people's like papers when they're not
Speaker 1: allowed to come out. Yeah, exactly, that's interesting. Discolsium. I
Speaker 1: would say it's like a pretty political video game, but
Speaker 1: like from as far as like Triple A titles, I
Speaker 1: don't think they're getting more political than like Call of Duty,
Speaker 1: like that's like you know, sort of like the army
Speaker 1: is good, Like that's like the thing is like yeah,
Speaker 1: that's it.
Speaker 2: But I mean some are rock stars games like you
Speaker 2: can tell are made with a little more thought, like
Speaker 2: there's because those are like satire, Like it's particularly Grand
Speaker 2: Theft thoughto or like satire video games, but that in
Speaker 2: mass people have ignored that part of it, and people
Speaker 2: like the worst people are like Grand.
Speaker 1: Theft Auto is like the best fucking thing ever, dude.
Speaker 1: It's fun and it's like interesting, and like they do
Speaker 1: they are making fun of, like you know, all sides
Speaker 1: of the political spectrum, I guess, but it is like
Speaker 1: sometimes done with the less delicate hand in certain directions
Speaker 1: than they should in other directions. But I think they
Speaker 1: tried to do some of that in that Cyberpunk twenty
Speaker 1: seventy seven also, but like it actually is just kind
Speaker 1: of it's stupid, Like he doesn't he doesn't really say anything,
Speaker 1: like it is kind of just like oh, like yeah,
Speaker 1: you can align with the cops or like you can
Speaker 1: like be like you end up doing a bunch of
Speaker 1: errands for cops actually, and that feels like the shittiest
Speaker 1: thing ever. Like that's all video games, though, you are
Speaker 1: Spider Man. In the Spider Man game, you're helping cops
Speaker 1: all the time, or like this sucks. I hate helping cops.
Speaker 1: I would never be caught dead helping a coup. That's
Speaker 1: also movement, right, Like yeah, true too. The default protagonist
Speaker 1: is cops. Yeah, since I was the only good guys
Speaker 1: are cops. Yeah, yeah, fucking good guy.
Speaker 3: And like my favorite movie is Jaws, like randomly the
Speaker 3: best the protagonist that that's a fucking cop for some reason,
Speaker 3: Like what man, why is the protagonist of.
Speaker 1: Jaws a cop? The only good guy in Jaws is
Speaker 1: a shark. That's right. Yeah, that's an brother. Get out
Speaker 1: of his ocean, not messing with him. Yeah, you're fucking
Speaker 1: up my house. That's why I'm so close to y'all ship.
Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, all right, well, Matt, truly a pleasure having
Speaker 3: you on the show. Can people find you, follow you
Speaker 3: all that good stuff.
Speaker 1: Look, it's tough now with social media. I'm not on X.
Speaker 1: I used to be on Twitter. I used to really
Speaker 1: love being on there. I had some nice followers there.
Speaker 1: I left. I'm not there anymore. You can follow me
Speaker 1: on Instagram, which I acknowledge is also a bad place
Speaker 1: to be. But like, well, we got to wait and
Speaker 1: see who wins the fight. Well, yeah, it is my
Speaker 1: sincere hope that Zuckerberg hits him one time and his
Speaker 1: head falls. I just want the funniest thing to have,
Speaker 1: like sock them, like rock them, sock them, robot. It
Speaker 1: just like goes up. Yeah, but I'm on I'm on there.
Speaker 1: I'm on threads, But like, am I on threads? What's
Speaker 1: on threads? You know who's on first, But otherwise you
Speaker 1: know I'm on God, my brain just completely stopped. I'm
Speaker 1: on the podcast Get Played with Nick Wiger and Heather
Speaker 1: and Campbell. Check that out wherever you get punts. We
Speaker 1: have an anime Patreon show called Get Animated where we're talking.
Speaker 1: We talked. We watched like an entire series of anime,
Speaker 1: two episodes at a time, for several weeks, and then
Speaker 1: we talk about it. We did Neon Genesis Evangeli, and
Speaker 1: we did the show called Licorus Recoil. We watched uh god,
Speaker 1: we watched Akira on there. I had never seen a
Speaker 1: Kira before. Oh man, that's a great I watched that
Speaker 1: fairly recently. I watched it guy for the first time,
Speaker 1: like last year, and was like, this is like one
Speaker 1: of the best movies I've ever seen.
Speaker 3: I was like, it's so incredible. Yeah, why was this
Speaker 3: kept from me? I had Why was this not like
Speaker 3: one of the first movies I saw. Yeah, I mean
Speaker 3: I guess probably because it's maybe not appropriate.
Speaker 1: It's yeah, rted R. I mean that's why we're still
Speaker 1: waiting for that live action. I would be interested. I
Speaker 1: don't know if they need to do it, but I
Speaker 1: know that I feel like I heard that Taiko Yitt
Speaker 1: was supposed to be doing it or something. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: and I trust Tycho with that. I think you could
Speaker 1: do it well. See. Yeah, I mean it is one
Speaker 1: of those things where like on its own, it's completely amazing,
Speaker 1: but there's there's just something about that esthetic where like
Speaker 1: I would welcome to see that like sort of irl.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, like a future that isn't that didn't come true,
Speaker 1: Like it is like an interesting sort of like setting right,
Speaker 1: like in terms of like technology and fashion, Like I
Speaker 1: think that movie is set in like twenty fifteen or
Speaker 1: something like, yeah, and that's now long past, and like
Speaker 1: it's nothing like that now yeah yeah, oh yeah twenty nineteen. Yeah.
Speaker 1: It's like it's just so interesting. But the slide works
Speaker 1: on in live action. You've seen it in things. I thought,
Speaker 1: I having not seen it before, I thought the slide
Speaker 1: like on the motorcycle was like the main thing, Like
Speaker 1: this is certainly like the climax of the movie, him
Speaker 1: sliding on this motorcycle. And then it happens ten minutes
Speaker 1: into the movie. I was like, well, what the hell
Speaker 1: is the rest of this ye, and then it becomes
Speaker 1: the crazy, it becomes insane, and you're like, oh this
Speaker 1: this rocks. But those are the two things that I
Speaker 1: would like to plug. And oh I have I worked.
Speaker 1: I produced this other show that's on the Ewolf Presents
Speaker 1: feed called Expo Xpos with my pal Jacob Waizaki, and
Speaker 1: we went to a bunch of different expos in southern
Speaker 1: California and interviewed people there and and it's like it's
Speaker 1: a very like sweet and like sincere show. It's not
Speaker 1: it's a comedy show, but like it's not that like
Speaker 1: that type of shing. Usually you see people going up
Speaker 1: to people and like making fun of the people there
Speaker 1: or whatever. It's like a very genuine like we're trying
Speaker 1: to just figure out what is going on here and
Speaker 1: why people like it and learning about the different subcultures
Speaker 1: they're in. And it's uh, I think it's it came
Speaker 1: out really great and I hope people check it out.
Speaker 1: Oh amazing.
Speaker 3: Yeah, is there a work of media that you've been enjoying?
Speaker 1: I guess you just told us about a couple those things,
Speaker 1: But I guess I'm on those things. So that's like
Speaker 1: that that that that that don't count the Oh, my
Speaker 1: friend Chris Farren put out an album recently called Doom
Speaker 1: Singer and it's very good. It's a great it's a
Speaker 1: great album. Check out the song Cosmic Leash And if
Speaker 1: that doesn't hook you, what the heck's wrong with? Yeah?
Speaker 1: You have ears?
Speaker 3: You got ears, you gotta function year you can get
Speaker 3: hooked on this. Yeah, Miles, where can people find you?
Speaker 3: Is there workI media you've been enjoying?
Speaker 1: Yeah, all the at based websites at Miles of Gray.
Speaker 1: That's m I L E. S g R A Y.
Speaker 2: It's wild when sometimes people reach out like type my
Speaker 2: handle but then misspell my first names. But hey, it
Speaker 2: is what it's And also find us on the basketball
Speaker 2: podcast Myles and Jack Got Mad Boosties. Also the new
Speaker 2: true crime show I'm doing The Good Thief talking about
Speaker 2: the Greek robin Hood and also fiance Yeah, yeah, yeah, check.
Speaker 1: It all out.
Speaker 2: A tweet I like, is this from Jesse McLaren at
Speaker 2: Mcjesse tweeted country musicians are like, y'all, there's two things
Speaker 2: I can't stand, socialism and the exploitation of my labor
Speaker 2: by the bourgeoisie.
Speaker 1: Yesterday. That is so good. Yeah, man, shit Richmond, north
Speaker 1: of Richmond, you know what I'm saying. Yeah, exactly.
Speaker 3: You can find me on Twitter at Jack Underscore, O'Brian
Speaker 3: on threads at Jack Underscore, Oh Underscore Brian.
Speaker 1: A couple tweets I've been enjoying.
Speaker 3: Kings Lay tweeted, I'm a huge fan of that post
Speaker 3: laundry feeling where you've got all your A list clothes
Speaker 3: back in the game. Yeah, man, truly, particularly the underwear,
Speaker 3: like I just have like some pairs of underwear that
Speaker 3: are like much better than the rest. There's a real,
Speaker 3: real big differentiation between the A list and C list
Speaker 3: there so, and then Harrison Wine red tweeted it's cool
Speaker 3: when a bathroom stall has a coat hook, Like, yeah,
Speaker 3: fuck it, I'll hang out. You can find us on
Speaker 3: Twitter at daily Zeikeist. We're at the Daily Zeikeeist on Instagram.
Speaker 3: We have a Facebook fan page on a website, Daily
Speaker 3: zeikeist dot com where post our episodes and our footnotes
Speaker 3: where we link off to the information that we talked
Speaker 3: about in today's episode, as well as a song.
Speaker 1: Do we think you might enjoy?
Speaker 3: Miles, what's a song that you think people might enjoy?
Speaker 1: Oh? This is gonna be a remix of the banger
Speaker 1: from the Ots? L right, was it the Hots? Remember tweet?
Speaker 1: Oh my, oh my, oh big gold musher? Remember that's
Speaker 1: anyway some of us really remember that track. Anyway. There's
Speaker 1: like a house technoi ish remix of that, uh, and
Speaker 1: it's really dope. It's called Couldn't Catch My Breath. So
Speaker 1: check this one out from DJ house Plants. DJ house
Speaker 1: Plant's great name.
Speaker 3: Yeah, all right, we'll link off to that in the
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