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Speaker 1: Hello the Internet and what.

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Speaker 2: Man?

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Speaker 1: Or leave it? Just leave it.

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Speaker 3: I was saying hello to the internet, my good friend,

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Speaker 3: to the Internet, and I was interrupted by my other

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Speaker 3: new friend. Our guest today, our most returning US first

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Speaker 3: time guests. We feel like we already know her. Welcome

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Speaker 3: to Season three hundred, episode three of.

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Speaker 1: Turn Day Guys Day production of iHeart Radio. This is

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Speaker 1: the podcast where we take deep dive into Maershare Country.

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Speaker 3: And it's Thursday, August seventeenth, twenty twenty three.

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, Black Cat Appreciation Day.

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Speaker 2: Shout out my cat birthday and shout out all the

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Speaker 2: black cats out there.

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Speaker 1: National we got a black Caday. Oh yeah, we.

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Speaker 3: Got a black cat living in our backyard. Oh black

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Speaker 3: cat and the back hat. Wow in the back cat.

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Speaker 1: Wow Wow. It's also National Hazy IPA Day. Oh, National

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Speaker 1: Nonprofit Day, Congressional Startup Day, National I Love My Feet Day. Interesting,

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Speaker 1: National Massachusetts Day, shout out with it. The Bay State?

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Speaker 1: What is the Massachusetts called it the Bay State? Is

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Speaker 1: that right? Is it a commonwealth? Yeah?

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Speaker 3: Commonwealth of Massachusetts?

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Speaker 1: Yeah? Why am I? Why did I think? What is

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Speaker 1: the Bay State? Never mind? Man? Yeah, it is Massachusetts?

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Speaker 1: All right? Come on, now, I lived there and everything.

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Speaker 1: I don't I don't remember that. Man. I played so

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Speaker 1: much competitive hockey in New England. I should have that

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Speaker 1: shit in my brain. You and your hockey team would

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Speaker 1: always say Fellas were a state. That's what they say.

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Speaker 1: Get your counter beans. We're in bean down. My name

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Speaker 1: is Jack O'Brien aka.

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Speaker 3: You turned me fudge round, baby fudge round, like a

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Speaker 3: fudgie wudgie fudge.

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Speaker 1: Round, round round.

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Speaker 3: You turned me fudge round, baby fudge round. That is

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Speaker 3: courtesy a Max Are twelve sixteen on the discord. Just

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Speaker 3: imagining an alternate universe where all songs mentioned fudge fudge rounds,

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Speaker 3: like that new viral country.

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Speaker 1: Song by Oliver Something.

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Speaker 3: It's Oliver's either his first name or his last name. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: I can't remember.

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Speaker 1: The Big Talent.

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Speaker 3: The Mega Talent Show winner. The second verse if you've

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Speaker 3: only heard the first verse, that's like a throwback to

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Speaker 3: Pete Seeger. Stick around for the second which is a

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Speaker 3: throwback to last night's gut Feld. It seems like it

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Speaker 3: was written by Greg Guttfeld truly. Anyways, I'm thrilled to

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Speaker 3: be joined as always by my co host mister Miles Grass.

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Speaker 2: Miles Gray a kay Id dropped charge, popped, got hit

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Speaker 2: with the rico, my cu cut judge of the state

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Speaker 1: Okay.

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Speaker 2: Shout out to JM you sick one on Discord for

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Speaker 2: that wonderful Trump version of Bad and Bougie. When you

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Speaker 2: even uploaded a voice note on the Discord post, you

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Speaker 2: were really trying to really get that Trump down.

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Speaker 1: Appreciate that, Thank you, thank you for that instruction. Yes, yes, yes, yeah,

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Speaker 1: that was beautiful. That was well done.

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Speaker 3: We appreciate the voice message.

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Speaker 1: Show's how it's done, Miles.

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Speaker 3: We are thrilled to be joined in our third seat

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Speaker 3: by one of the funniest comedians and podcasters doing it.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: God, we felt we felt like we were like, wait,

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Speaker 3: is this really the first time you've been on Is

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Speaker 3: this really the first time we've ever talked to each other? Yeah,

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Speaker 3: because I definitely have like a parasocial relationship. I've been

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Speaker 3: a fan from a distance of his appearances on various

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Speaker 3: podcasts like how Many Bang Bang Dope Boys. He co

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Speaker 3: hosts the podcast Get Played. He's one of a handful

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Speaker 3: of people who I can remember hearing on I forget

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Speaker 3: with Gabriis and Carl Tart and our guest today where

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Speaker 3: I was like, wait, who's this I'm like googling as

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Speaker 3: And talking to Joe Pesci?

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Speaker 1: Who is this guy? Who's this guy? Who's this guy? Anyways,

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Speaker 1: it is the brilliant, the talented Matt. This is all

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Speaker 1: too much. This is too much praise for your boy.

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Speaker 1: I'm excited to be here. Yeah, we were saying that

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Speaker 1: I am really, really sorry that I interrupted. At the beginning.

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Speaker 1: We were talking about how professional and like I keep it,

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Speaker 3: It's just that I'm talking to my good friends the internet,

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Speaker 1: And you know, I don't like how he doesn't like it.

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Speaker 1: He doesn't like it. I pissed him off. I fucked up, man.

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Speaker 3: We're also talking about that Gatoragge commercial. Oh yeah, the

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Speaker 3: counterfactual Michael Jordan gatoragg commercial where where he's like, what

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Speaker 3: what if it wasn't fucking awesome?

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Speaker 1: I was watching these commercials yesterday on on Get Played.

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Speaker 1: We were talking about the Donald Trump Pizza Hut commercials. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: because he was he was kind of their spokesperson for

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Speaker 1: from the Big New Yorker. Yeah, and he eats the

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Speaker 1: And we were positing that they like had to come

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Speaker 3: And then it was just like, no, that's actually how

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Speaker 3: that way. I'm normal, You're you're insane.

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Speaker 1: His style is to just scrape the toppings off. He

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Speaker 3: The old pizza bowl? Just which is I feel like

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Speaker 3: some point by just pizza chain, just the like pizza bowl, like.

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Speaker 1: I think Papa Papa John's did. Yeah, which again feels

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Speaker 1: you probably want to be a little more vegetable forward

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Speaker 3: It does again feel like this is Trump like getting

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Speaker 1: Here's what you do, Papa, he calls the invisible him

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Speaker 2: It truly is like the onion meats trio, Poppa Bult.

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Speaker 2: It's just pepperoni, sausage, meatballs stop topped with three cheeses

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Speaker 1: That does seem uniquely American, though, does it not? Like that?

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Speaker 1: Like that type of food, the fact that that counts

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Speaker 1: as food, it's so childish, like that's what we're shamelessly

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Speaker 1: the top, Like yeah, okay, fine. Meanwhile, the rest of

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Speaker 1: the world is like the fuck are you doing? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: like the fact that you can get like truffle mac

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Or like you go to you get a Starbucks

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Speaker 2: and you get a train to sized Pinole's. That's the

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Speaker 2: capacity of a wine bottle, sir.

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Speaker 1: But okay, we just have a couple of bottles of

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Speaker 1: bottles of wine. Yeah, three full bottle of prappuccino, you know, propaccino.

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Speaker 3: We have four or five bottles propaccino. All right, Matt,

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Speaker 3: we're gonna get to know you a little bit better

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: First, we're gonna tell our listeners a couple of things

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Speaker 3: we're talking about today. We got some good news out

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Speaker 3: of a Montana court, So we're gonna talk about that

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Speaker 3: with regards as regards climate change, as regards the future

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Speaker 3: of the planet, as regards Ron DeSantis is just like whatever, Okay,

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Speaker 3: clearly I won Let's just move on here. So we're

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Speaker 3: gonna talk about that. I'm trying to shoehorn a video

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Speaker 3: game story in. Since Matt, you are a video game dude,

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Speaker 3: I'm a gamer guy, as they're called.

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Speaker 1: A game dude. Shout out game dude. The best video

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Speaker 1: game store in La? Yeah? Is that right? Oh yeah,

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Speaker 1: it's in North Hollywood. It's like a big warehouse and

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Speaker 1: get that Genesis shit right there. The cartridges are crisp.

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Speaker 3: That has to have come on online, like late eighties,

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Speaker 1: I have been going there since the early nineties, like

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Speaker 3: Yoh yeah, all that plenty more. But first, Matt, what

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Speaker 3: is something from your search history?

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Speaker 1: Okay, Well, yesterday I was googling The Walking Dead and

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Speaker 1: like Wikipedia entries for each show, and then it's like,

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Speaker 1: the Walking Dead World Beyond. Yes, Yeah, that one is

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Speaker 1: like that My god. Yeah, it's or The Ones who

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Speaker 1: he was gonna be like a blockbuster like action hero basically,

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Speaker 1: and they just never did that. They just like never

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Speaker 1: This city is dead. What what's something you think is overrated? Man? Okay,

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Speaker 1: so you you immediately had beef with this as soon

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Speaker 3: But I will tell you that their chocolate ratio is

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Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, Or like the one that was like fourteen

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Speaker 2: I think the diameter was fourteen inches for that one,

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Speaker 2: and it like sold out instantly again because America is

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm just talking about the ones that are called

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Speaker 1: Size, kind of the ones that have like the chips

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Speaker 1: potato chips, the pretzels. I didn't. I didn't know. I

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Speaker 1: Matt appadaka and then underneath get in a ship about Candy,

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Speaker 3: I just have to say this out loud because it's

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Speaker 3: and I'm so mad at you, and I want you

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Speaker 1: The show's over.

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Speaker 3: You have people talked about how your name is like

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Speaker 3: what like perfect to be pronounced by forty before.

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Speaker 1: No, I've not heard that. I've heard it's hard to pronounce.

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Speaker 1: ever it was like Pascal Siakam, I thought you were

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Speaker 1: doing Christopher walking like that's good.

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Speaker 3: Wow.

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Speaker 1: I would like anyone of you who has a specific

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Speaker 1: I'd love to hear it. But it has to be

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Speaker 1: William Shatner's got to say it. Actually, you know what, Shatner,

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Speaker 1: You've said that, you've been saying I've been saying it.

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Speaker 1: I was like, if Shatner ever mentions me it's on site,

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Speaker 1: Doc Devalier, I thought you were going to say that

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Speaker 1: The idea was really thought of until they got to

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Speaker 1: That's true. Yeah, that's that's good company for me. I'm happy.

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Speaker 1: I'm happy with you. I know it is. But if

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Speaker 1: under it? Okay, I don't know if you guys are

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Speaker 1: Nobody's really talking about this one in that same conversation.

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Speaker 1: And I think it deserves to be up there with

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Speaker 1: of the Planet of the Apes. I think all three

431
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Speaker 1: of those movies fucking whip ass. They're so good. I

432
00:22:57,720 --> 00:23:01,720
Speaker 1: really enjoyed the first two. The third one got good reviews.

433
00:23:01,960 --> 00:23:05,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, and I didn't see it, and I don't and

434
00:23:05,200 --> 00:23:08,480
Speaker 3: I love movies, and for some reason, like yeah, I

435
00:23:08,640 --> 00:23:10,480
Speaker 3: know what you mean, Like there was just something about

436
00:23:10,520 --> 00:23:13,760
Speaker 3: the culture at the time that was just like, I

437
00:23:13,800 --> 00:23:16,000
Speaker 3: don't know, man, we're kind of over the ship. You

438
00:23:16,040 --> 00:23:17,880
Speaker 3: want you will see monkey ride a horse?

439
00:23:18,000 --> 00:23:20,160
Speaker 1: Come on, what are you not even just monkey ride

440
00:23:20,200 --> 00:23:23,400
Speaker 1: a horse, Monkey ride a horse, jumping through fire, shooting machine. Guy,

441
00:23:23,840 --> 00:23:26,560
Speaker 1: it was rules. It's that if that movie came out, now,

442
00:23:26,800 --> 00:23:29,200
Speaker 1: that's the only thing people would be talking about this year.

443
00:23:29,240 --> 00:23:30,959
Speaker 1: They're like, I show this fucking crazy thing.

444
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Speaker 2: This just rebranded as like apes on Cocaine, and then

445
00:23:35,800 --> 00:23:40,080
Speaker 2: you'll be because like is War of the Planet of

446
00:23:40,119 --> 00:23:42,320
Speaker 2: the Apes When they have the showdown on the suspension bridge.

447
00:23:43,000 --> 00:23:44,440
Speaker 2: The second I think, I think, so, well, there's a

448
00:23:44,480 --> 00:23:47,520
Speaker 2: lot of like gorillas, like where the gorillas pull up

449
00:23:47,520 --> 00:23:49,280
Speaker 2: and they're like, yo, watch me throw some like bring

450
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Speaker 2: a helicopter.

451
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Speaker 1: Okay, Yeah, that is the second one, Yes, because they

452
00:23:52,560 --> 00:23:55,320
Speaker 1: have retreated into the woods. They're further away from San Francisco.

453
00:23:55,480 --> 00:23:59,120
Speaker 1: In War, they're like somewhere else completely, I think, because

454
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Speaker 1: the first one is Merily in San Francis.

455
00:24:01,200 --> 00:24:03,720
Speaker 3: Rise has the Rise the Suspension Bridge.

456
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Speaker 1: Yeah, and then they get in there. The second one

457
00:24:06,680 --> 00:24:09,440
Speaker 1: they sort of now are more talking and you know

458
00:24:09,680 --> 00:24:13,159
Speaker 1: they're still humans. And then War is like it's of

459
00:24:13,240 --> 00:24:16,399
Speaker 1: course you miss that one. Yeah, with Woody Harrelson like

460
00:24:16,520 --> 00:24:19,480
Speaker 1: leading all these fucking humans and ship. Yeah, it's it's

461
00:24:19,560 --> 00:24:21,760
Speaker 1: fucking great. It's so good. And Gary Oldman's in the

462
00:24:21,800 --> 00:24:25,760
Speaker 1: second one. It's got some star power behind these behind

463
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Speaker 1: these ones.

464
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Speaker 3: The guy went and saw the second one, I was like, no, notes,

465
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Speaker 3: these seem to be getting like way the first one,

466
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Speaker 3: I really enjoyed the second one. I was like, this

467
00:24:34,840 --> 00:24:37,680
Speaker 3: is like way better. I can only imagine what the

468
00:24:37,760 --> 00:24:39,879
Speaker 3: third one is going to be. Like Yeah, and then

469
00:24:39,960 --> 00:24:44,639
Speaker 3: I didn't see it. It's like the very rare blockbuster

470
00:24:44,800 --> 00:24:47,280
Speaker 3: that's like gets good reviews that I just like didn't see.

471
00:24:47,680 --> 00:24:50,359
Speaker 3: So I don't know what it was just but I

472
00:24:50,480 --> 00:24:53,160
Speaker 3: am part of the problem. I will admit there.

473
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Speaker 1: I think give it a spin, check it out. I

474
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Speaker 1: think it's so good and I think it's like, I

475
00:24:58,680 --> 00:25:01,399
Speaker 1: don't know. Steve's On plays a monkey in the in

476
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Speaker 1: War and I'm a big z On head. I love

477
00:25:04,200 --> 00:25:08,040
Speaker 1: Steve Yeah, and he's he's so good in it. I

478
00:25:08,160 --> 00:25:10,840
Speaker 1: loved him in this season The Gemstone. He's When I

479
00:25:10,920 --> 00:25:12,440
Speaker 1: found out that he was in it, I was like,

480
00:25:12,800 --> 00:25:16,119
Speaker 1: let's I'm ready for Steve's On to take over. I'm ready.

481
00:25:16,160 --> 00:25:18,560
Speaker 1: I thought it was gonna happen after White Lotus, and

482
00:25:18,720 --> 00:25:20,200
Speaker 1: I thought he was gonna be in a bunch of stuff.

483
00:25:20,440 --> 00:25:22,800
Speaker 1: I have a big pitch for him, and maybe I

484
00:25:22,800 --> 00:25:25,159
Speaker 1: should say I think I think he should be in

485
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Speaker 1: a season of Fargo, and I think he'll bring home

486
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Speaker 1: some hardware. I think he fucking ripped and oh yeah, yeah,

487
00:25:30,240 --> 00:25:34,280
Speaker 1: a limited drama poised. Yeah yeah, we're ready for the renaissance.

488
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Speaker 3: But he does need to have a little interlude. Yeah,

489
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Speaker 3: it's it's interesting that he I didn't know he was

490
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Speaker 3: in the third Planet of the Apes. Does he play human.

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Speaker 1: Or he plays a monkey? He plays like an ape

492
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Speaker 1: that they did like experiments on and so, but he's

493
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Speaker 1: like kind of he so he's kind of like fucked up. Oh,

494
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Speaker 1: is he the one in the trailer that looks like

495
00:25:53,000 --> 00:25:55,320
Speaker 1: all hairless as ship? Yeah, he wears a jacket because

496
00:25:55,320 --> 00:25:57,000
Speaker 1: he doesn't have any hair, because he's he wears a

497
00:25:57,040 --> 00:26:00,480
Speaker 1: jacket because he's cold. But he's really funny in the wait,

498
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Speaker 1: is that the one where they said it was dressed

499
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Speaker 1: like Jerray McKesson. Oh? I know, because do you remember

500
00:26:07,040 --> 00:26:08,840
Speaker 1: this Jack? I remember we were talking about this that

501
00:26:09,000 --> 00:26:10,399
Speaker 1: like one of them like he was wearing like a

502
00:26:10,520 --> 00:26:14,119
Speaker 1: blue like padded vest type ship. Yeah, okay, so he

503
00:26:14,200 --> 00:26:16,200
Speaker 1: does wear a vest in the movie. Yeah yeah, yeah,

504
00:26:16,520 --> 00:26:19,600
Speaker 1: And I remember when we were covering this. I remember, damn,

505
00:26:19,640 --> 00:26:21,840
Speaker 1: this is how fucking back this show was going, where

506
00:26:21,840 --> 00:26:25,119
Speaker 1: people were like that monkey is dressed like Jerray McKesson

507
00:26:25,520 --> 00:26:27,080
Speaker 1: and everyone was like what you're saying.

508
00:26:27,680 --> 00:26:30,760
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, But he has a moment in White Lotus

509
00:26:30,800 --> 00:26:34,000
Speaker 3: where he like does like ape man an ape man

510
00:26:34,200 --> 00:26:37,520
Speaker 3: thing that's weird, Like he gets drunk and then starts

511
00:26:37,600 --> 00:26:41,240
Speaker 3: being like pounding his chest. He brought it, he used

512
00:26:41,240 --> 00:26:43,520
Speaker 3: that he's using different parts.

513
00:26:43,800 --> 00:26:48,639
Speaker 1: Yeah, he's that's why he's just so good. Yeah. And

514
00:26:49,000 --> 00:26:51,920
Speaker 1: that they're making they're gonna be making some renaissance renaissance.

515
00:26:52,600 --> 00:26:56,119
Speaker 1: They're gonna continue from war into whatever else, and like

516
00:26:56,240 --> 00:26:59,080
Speaker 1: they this. The thing that is good about these movies

517
00:26:59,160 --> 00:27:03,240
Speaker 1: is that it should didn't work because you know what

518
00:27:03,400 --> 00:27:05,960
Speaker 1: it's building to you, Like the Planet of the Apes

519
00:27:06,000 --> 00:27:08,240
Speaker 1: is such a famous movie, and like everybody knows the

520
00:27:08,320 --> 00:27:12,479
Speaker 1: story of the movie. It's not on paper interesting how

521
00:27:12,600 --> 00:27:14,800
Speaker 1: they get to that point where somebody, you know, where

522
00:27:14,840 --> 00:27:17,359
Speaker 1: Charlton Heston comes back and is like, get your hands

523
00:27:17,400 --> 00:27:20,119
Speaker 1: off me, you damn dirty ape. That's not interesting. But

524
00:27:20,359 --> 00:27:23,760
Speaker 1: every single one of them tells us such a cool story.

525
00:27:25,760 --> 00:27:28,640
Speaker 1: It rocks. They're so good. That's amazing.

526
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Speaker 3: All right, this is a great underrated I'm not gonna

527
00:27:31,800 --> 00:27:33,679
Speaker 3: comment on your overrated, but this is a.

528
00:27:33,720 --> 00:27:36,639
Speaker 1: Great It's okay. I know that you're mad and no

529
00:27:37,160 --> 00:27:39,359
Speaker 1: there's something I can do about it. But that's probably right.

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Speaker 3: I think the only reason that I don't have the

531
00:27:41,440 --> 00:27:45,040
Speaker 3: same take on recent's peanut buttercups is that I partake

532
00:27:45,119 --> 00:27:48,400
Speaker 3: in all the different varieties, and so I can when

533
00:27:48,640 --> 00:27:51,800
Speaker 3: I'm feeling a little over peanut buttered, I can always

534
00:27:51,800 --> 00:27:53,040
Speaker 3: go to the King.

535
00:27:53,400 --> 00:27:57,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, and I I don't always give it a try

536
00:27:58,359 --> 00:28:01,480
Speaker 1: because they're around. Like sometimes I'm like, I want a

537
00:28:01,520 --> 00:28:03,760
Speaker 1: little piece of candy. Oh, I got Reese's here. I

538
00:28:03,800 --> 00:28:06,600
Speaker 1: don't love that. Let me see if I if it's changed.

539
00:28:06,640 --> 00:28:08,040
Speaker 1: And every single time and take a bite, I'm like,

540
00:28:08,160 --> 00:28:09,120
Speaker 1: I don't like it that much.

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Speaker 3: I will say, you should just stop trying, because nobody

542
00:28:14,000 --> 00:28:15,880
Speaker 3: it doesn't tell me you like them in the world

543
00:28:16,040 --> 00:28:18,320
Speaker 3: doesn't doesn't seem like you like them, and nobody else

544
00:28:18,359 --> 00:28:19,280
Speaker 3: in the world sees that.

545
00:28:19,440 --> 00:28:23,080
Speaker 1: And it's like, oh man, Reese's. Everybody else is like, hell, yeah,

546
00:28:23,119 --> 00:28:25,879
Speaker 1: they got for somebody that wants one, I'm taking one

547
00:28:25,960 --> 00:28:27,560
Speaker 1: bite and toss it in the dang trash.

548
00:28:27,760 --> 00:28:31,760
Speaker 3: Yes, absolutely, all right, Let's take a quick break and

549
00:28:31,920 --> 00:28:34,000
Speaker 3: we'll come back and we'll talk about some news.

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Speaker 1: We'll be right back.

551
00:28:45,600 --> 00:28:48,280
Speaker 3: And we're back, and this is actually gonna be a

552
00:28:48,320 --> 00:28:50,520
Speaker 3: full Reeseis show. I guess there's climate change news. But

553
00:28:50,600 --> 00:28:53,680
Speaker 3: Myles was checking out the line up and cream Have

554
00:28:53,760 --> 00:28:55,560
Speaker 3: you had Reese's creamy nurse?

555
00:28:56,000 --> 00:28:57,160
Speaker 1: Crunch out of here?

556
00:28:57,680 --> 00:28:57,960
Speaker 3: Wow?

557
00:28:59,160 --> 00:29:01,800
Speaker 1: Crunchy, I could with I could give that a world.

558
00:29:02,360 --> 00:29:06,680
Speaker 1: They put the recent Cereal puffs in it. Oh okay, creamy?

559
00:29:06,800 --> 00:29:09,040
Speaker 1: Is that creamy? Pan? No? No, no, no, that's a

560
00:29:09,080 --> 00:29:11,600
Speaker 1: different Yeah, the one is creamy peanut butter versus. It

561
00:29:11,680 --> 00:29:15,719
Speaker 1: was like a cream anywhere? Oh y, can I can

562
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Speaker 1: I comment on the Cereal real quick? Yeah? I always

563
00:29:18,680 --> 00:29:20,840
Speaker 1: felt like as a as a person of color, I

564
00:29:20,880 --> 00:29:23,880
Speaker 1: always thought that that Cereal was exclusively marketed to people

565
00:29:23,920 --> 00:29:26,720
Speaker 1: of color, and because there's never white children in the commercials,

566
00:29:28,000 --> 00:29:29,200
Speaker 1: it was like, what is going on here? This is

567
00:29:29,960 --> 00:29:32,840
Speaker 1: for us? The puffs are like really on point in

568
00:29:32,960 --> 00:29:37,000
Speaker 1: terms of skin tone, like these are real skin tones? Yeah? Absolutely, yeah.

569
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Speaker 2: I quite literally see myself in the Cereal So in

570
00:29:41,200 --> 00:29:43,520
Speaker 2: that sense, it was drawing me, like I'm off to

571
00:29:43,600 --> 00:29:44,600
Speaker 2: the flame exactly.

572
00:29:44,680 --> 00:29:46,959
Speaker 1: Yeah. I was like, this Cereal is not for white children.

573
00:29:48,280 --> 00:29:48,440
Speaker 3: I know.

574
00:29:48,520 --> 00:29:51,040
Speaker 2: I think they those commercials really were. They're like, you

575
00:29:51,120 --> 00:29:52,640
Speaker 2: ain't cool enough to eat this ship?

576
00:29:52,800 --> 00:29:58,480
Speaker 1: White kids go back to your tricks. Yeah exactly, because

577
00:29:58,520 --> 00:30:05,240
Speaker 1: this ship definitely ain't for kids. Yeah, it's like you. Yeah,

578
00:30:05,240 --> 00:30:07,560
Speaker 1: because one was like, wasn't it like a wrap one?

579
00:30:07,920 --> 00:30:13,160
Speaker 1: Yeahs puff Reesius puff peanut butter flavor. Oh man, I

580
00:30:13,240 --> 00:30:17,240
Speaker 1: didn't know these. I think I was like old, Yeah, you.

581
00:30:17,600 --> 00:30:20,719
Speaker 3: Have been around when this was being I think they were.

582
00:30:21,480 --> 00:30:25,560
Speaker 3: I was like, yeah this, I was like listening to radio,

583
00:30:26,240 --> 00:30:30,520
Speaker 3: like the jaredital Radio Hour. But like I think these

584
00:30:30,600 --> 00:30:32,240
Speaker 3: hit when I was like in middle school, so I

585
00:30:32,320 --> 00:30:34,600
Speaker 3: wasn't like watching Saturday morning cartoons anymore.

586
00:30:34,800 --> 00:30:37,479
Speaker 1: Yeah. See, oh there's one white homie. There was one

587
00:30:37,520 --> 00:30:39,280
Speaker 1: white homie with the two. They gave him. Yeah, they

588
00:30:39,400 --> 00:30:41,000
Speaker 1: they invited him, but like.

589
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Speaker 2: Very but he plays a very like tertiary role in it,

590
00:30:44,360 --> 00:30:46,360
Speaker 2: because like the main accent between the two black guys

591
00:30:46,440 --> 00:30:47,480
Speaker 2: were like, yeah, this is good.

592
00:30:47,520 --> 00:30:49,280
Speaker 1: Look I'm gonna go ahead and say it. He's lucky

593
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Speaker 1: to be there.

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00:30:50,160 --> 00:30:54,320
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, yeah exactly, and then like afterwards, like don't

595
00:30:54,320 --> 00:30:56,760
Speaker 2: think you can start using the N word, Brad, Yeah yeah,

596
00:30:56,960 --> 00:30:59,440
Speaker 2: because you like the cereal just you were just part

597
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Speaker 2: of the commercial.

598
00:31:00,520 --> 00:31:03,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, and then this one too. Yeah it's true. I mean, look,

599
00:31:03,640 --> 00:31:06,320
Speaker 1: Rees's maybe they were they've been a civil rights leader

600
00:31:06,360 --> 00:31:09,520
Speaker 1: this whole time. And you know what, that's why I'll

601
00:31:09,560 --> 00:31:11,800
Speaker 1: always vow to take at least one bite of any

602
00:31:11,840 --> 00:31:13,840
Speaker 1: Reese's cup, I see, even if I don't like it.

603
00:31:14,440 --> 00:31:18,320
Speaker 3: And that's why neoliberalism work, you know, because there's money

604
00:31:18,440 --> 00:31:23,640
Speaker 3: being spent to change hearts and minds via Recee's commercial.

605
00:31:23,280 --> 00:31:25,520
Speaker 2: Right, exactly the same way I'll eat Little Caesars because

606
00:31:25,520 --> 00:31:27,160
Speaker 2: the owner paid for Rosa Parks rent.

607
00:31:27,400 --> 00:31:30,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, you know what. All right, I see you

608
00:31:31,280 --> 00:31:34,239
Speaker 1: salute the champions. But anyway, good news. Shall we move

609
00:31:34,320 --> 00:31:36,240
Speaker 1: on to Yeah, let's talk about some good news.

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00:31:36,720 --> 00:31:41,000
Speaker 2: So, despite the ongoing tragedy in Maui, on Maui, it

611
00:31:41,360 --> 00:31:43,720
Speaker 2: seems like we have like an actual bit of good

612
00:31:43,800 --> 00:31:46,320
Speaker 2: news on the climate front. So this judge in Montana

613
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Speaker 2: ruled in favor of a group of young plaintiffs like

614
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Speaker 2: between ages like five and up to like around twenty

615
00:31:52,440 --> 00:31:55,880
Speaker 2: two or twenty one, that sued the state basically to

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Speaker 2: change the state's laws underscoring their right to live in

617
00:31:59,480 --> 00:32:02,800
Speaker 2: a you know, fucking healthy world. They basically argue that

618
00:32:02,840 --> 00:32:05,840
Speaker 2: their constitutional rights were being trampled on, like being trampled

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Speaker 2: on because the state, like actually legally mandates a policy

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00:32:10,920 --> 00:32:15,040
Speaker 2: that you know, like prioritizes fossil fuel use and also

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Speaker 2: like the development of fossil fuel use.

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00:32:17,400 --> 00:32:19,760
Speaker 1: So like it's just very like, yeah, it's on our books.

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Speaker 1: We love fucking gasoline and dino juice. Right, And there's

624
00:32:23,200 --> 00:32:26,400
Speaker 1: also a part of those like mandates that actually make

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00:32:26,480 --> 00:32:29,960
Speaker 1: the state literally ignore the impact of fossil fuel use

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00:32:30,040 --> 00:32:33,200
Speaker 1: in greenhouse gas emissions. They're like, don't even look at that. Shit,

627
00:32:33,400 --> 00:32:36,240
Speaker 1: it's our policy in the state of Montana. So basically

628
00:32:36,320 --> 00:32:39,520
Speaker 1: they went full earth buck and the plaintiffs argued that

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00:32:39,640 --> 00:32:43,120
Speaker 1: the Montana Constitution grants them the right to a clean

630
00:32:43,200 --> 00:32:47,600
Speaker 1: and healthful environment also like you know, dignity, help and safety, happiness,

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Speaker 1: equal protection under the law. And they're saying, this, shit,

632
00:32:50,240 --> 00:32:53,080
Speaker 1: if you're mandating this kind of nonsense, that completely that's

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00:32:53,160 --> 00:32:54,680
Speaker 1: violating our constitutional right.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and the judge heard enough, ruled in their favor

635
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Speaker 2: and has now enjoyed the state from implementing these laws

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Speaker 2: in the future.

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00:33:01,400 --> 00:33:05,520
Speaker 1: So it's done. So a very small thing, but many

638
00:33:05,600 --> 00:33:08,640
Speaker 1: people are pointing to the fact that this is really significant. Yeah,

639
00:33:08,640 --> 00:33:10,200
Speaker 1: And like a lot of policy people see this as

640
00:33:10,240 --> 00:33:12,400
Speaker 1: a new tool to fight back because when all the

641
00:33:12,520 --> 00:33:15,360
Speaker 1: facts and science and like are presented along with the

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00:33:15,480 --> 00:33:18,360
Speaker 1: impacts on the future generations, there seems to be a

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Speaker 1: consensus that this amounts to a true constitutional violation that

644
00:33:22,520 --> 00:33:23,360
Speaker 1: has to be considered.

645
00:33:23,640 --> 00:33:26,520
Speaker 3: Yeah, like it's it should be against the law for

646
00:33:27,640 --> 00:33:30,640
Speaker 3: them to poison the future.

647
00:33:30,880 --> 00:33:33,400
Speaker 2: Right, Yeah, it's just because like I think it's abstract

648
00:33:33,440 --> 00:33:36,239
Speaker 2: where it's like, well you can't dump radioactive waste by

649
00:33:36,280 --> 00:33:38,920
Speaker 2: a school. Like it's the same thing where it's like,

650
00:33:38,960 --> 00:33:40,800
Speaker 2: well we're not seeing it now, so it shit's just

651
00:33:40,880 --> 00:33:43,440
Speaker 2: going in the air that who knows what impact that has,

652
00:33:43,520 --> 00:33:46,160
Speaker 2: And now that they're articulating it, it's yeah, it's it's.

653
00:33:46,720 --> 00:33:50,640
Speaker 3: Just pointing out that the current laws actually like mandate

654
00:33:50,960 --> 00:33:52,560
Speaker 3: that you do destroy the earth.

655
00:33:52,840 --> 00:33:55,200
Speaker 1: Yeah. I think it's an easy one.

656
00:33:55,240 --> 00:33:57,200
Speaker 2: It was probably the easiest one to go for because

657
00:33:57,200 --> 00:34:01,640
Speaker 2: you're like they're literally saying ignore the fucking science here, Yeah,

658
00:34:01,720 --> 00:34:04,720
Speaker 2: like at our detriment, Like so what gifts.

659
00:34:05,160 --> 00:34:07,840
Speaker 1: Something I like about this story is that it includes

660
00:34:08,200 --> 00:34:11,160
Speaker 1: that the ages of the plaintiffs. The plaintiffs were five

661
00:34:11,239 --> 00:34:15,279
Speaker 1: to twenty two, Like it's like making it possible that

662
00:34:15,480 --> 00:34:16,960
Speaker 1: it was the five year old that was like we

663
00:34:17,080 --> 00:34:20,920
Speaker 1: got to do something about it. Yeah. Yeah, I mean, hey, hey, hey, hey,

664
00:34:21,120 --> 00:34:23,520
Speaker 1: get off your fucking PlayStation. Yeah yeah, yeah.

665
00:34:24,040 --> 00:34:26,480
Speaker 2: I'm five years old and I'm looking at my outlook

666
00:34:26,520 --> 00:34:28,279
Speaker 2: and I'm feeling fucked over.

667
00:34:28,480 --> 00:34:30,359
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah. And then they're like, okay, let him cook,

668
00:34:30,440 --> 00:34:33,000
Speaker 1: let him Cook's fine, Yeah for me, doesn't need an

669
00:34:33,000 --> 00:34:35,520
Speaker 1: app No, he's being lit serious, Okay, just happened. He

670
00:34:35,640 --> 00:34:37,719
Speaker 1: just happened. That's why he's so energetic. Right, he was

671
00:34:37,960 --> 00:34:46,880
Speaker 1: arguing in front of the judge, like you know, rightimate change,

672
00:34:47,840 --> 00:34:48,680
Speaker 1: climate change.

673
00:34:50,280 --> 00:34:52,360
Speaker 3: But it does seem to be like something inherently like

674
00:34:52,719 --> 00:34:56,560
Speaker 3: I don't know, this is definitely anecdotal, but it feels

675
00:34:56,760 --> 00:34:59,960
Speaker 3: like young children are just like, yeah, no, I'm like

676
00:35:00,080 --> 00:35:03,480
Speaker 3: a vegetarian because why wouldn't I bear you fucking crazy,

677
00:35:03,800 --> 00:35:06,040
Speaker 3: It's like, you're six, what are you talking about? But

678
00:35:06,160 --> 00:35:10,160
Speaker 3: they're just it seems like through just living in a

679
00:35:10,280 --> 00:35:15,640
Speaker 3: world that is like completely deranged and completely fucking the future.

680
00:35:15,719 --> 00:35:18,080
Speaker 3: Then yeah, like the message is getting to them despite

681
00:35:18,120 --> 00:35:20,439
Speaker 3: the best efforts of kind of the mainstream media.

682
00:35:20,760 --> 00:35:22,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't know how a little kid could look

683
00:35:22,960 --> 00:35:26,960
Speaker 1: around now and be like this seems fine, Like it's

684
00:35:27,000 --> 00:35:29,399
Speaker 1: like everything is just good, markedly bad that like kids

685
00:35:29,480 --> 00:35:32,719
Speaker 1: today have to be like, hmmm, yeah, what ten years left,

686
00:35:32,800 --> 00:35:34,480
Speaker 1: I'll be sixteen. Let's see if I can try to

687
00:35:34,480 --> 00:35:37,320
Speaker 1: fix this thing. Like it's weird too, like how my

688
00:35:37,400 --> 00:35:39,040
Speaker 1: am Like I used to be like, man, these young

689
00:35:39,160 --> 00:35:41,680
Speaker 1: kids don't know. We was out here on bicycles and shit,

690
00:35:42,000 --> 00:35:44,359
Speaker 1: yeah man she was. You could get you know, those

691
00:35:44,400 --> 00:35:45,600
Speaker 1: fucking beautiful you used.

692
00:35:45,480 --> 00:35:49,200
Speaker 3: To go around to playgrounds and say yeah, yeah, yeah,

693
00:35:49,440 --> 00:35:51,960
Speaker 3: fucking know, push kid over, now, turn on the swing.

694
00:35:52,320 --> 00:35:57,200
Speaker 1: Yeah. But then like now I'm truly like, damn, these

695
00:35:57,320 --> 00:35:59,759
Speaker 1: kids aren't gonna know some of the things like I

696
00:36:00,120 --> 00:36:02,279
Speaker 1: in my own little baby, and I'm like this, I

697
00:36:02,360 --> 00:36:04,520
Speaker 1: don't even know what the fuck his world is going

698
00:36:04,560 --> 00:36:06,040
Speaker 1: to look like compared to the shit that I had.

699
00:36:06,080 --> 00:36:09,200
Speaker 2: And I'm like, damn, Like it's that's kind of an

700
00:36:09,400 --> 00:36:11,480
Speaker 2: l And now you realize, you know, this is truly

701
00:36:11,600 --> 00:36:13,360
Speaker 2: like this is the real fight that has to that

702
00:36:13,800 --> 00:36:15,960
Speaker 2: is taking place because this isn't the only place where

703
00:36:16,040 --> 00:36:18,960
Speaker 2: lawsuits like this are happening. Because when in Hawaii, like

704
00:36:19,040 --> 00:36:21,320
Speaker 2: in there are other states. Because again, it seems like

705
00:36:21,360 --> 00:36:24,680
Speaker 2: a pretty good tool to use to try and counteract

706
00:36:25,239 --> 00:36:26,360
Speaker 2: dino juice addiction.

707
00:36:27,040 --> 00:36:30,919
Speaker 3: Yeah, it feels and again, like as we talked about

708
00:36:30,960 --> 00:36:34,120
Speaker 3: in our episode about Ministry for the Future, like we

709
00:36:34,360 --> 00:36:37,320
Speaker 3: are in a unique position being inside the United States,

710
00:36:37,400 --> 00:36:39,759
Speaker 3: Like we're in the belly of the beast, and like

711
00:36:39,920 --> 00:36:45,960
Speaker 3: other countries are, you know, already kind of working with

712
00:36:46,320 --> 00:36:49,800
Speaker 3: the new reality and just like in acting policies, but

713
00:36:50,360 --> 00:36:55,520
Speaker 3: the US is still in this bizarre cognitive dissonance spiral.

714
00:36:55,920 --> 00:36:58,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, and then we're like, why is everyone so unhappy?

715
00:36:59,000 --> 00:37:02,719
Speaker 3: It's like right, because like there's a very clear reality

716
00:37:02,840 --> 00:37:05,760
Speaker 3: that everyone's having to just like lock out and ignore

717
00:37:05,960 --> 00:37:07,200
Speaker 3: to like get through their day.

718
00:37:07,120 --> 00:37:09,880
Speaker 1: To day lives. Yeah. Absolutely, it's not good for you.

719
00:37:10,400 --> 00:37:13,560
Speaker 1: Can't be good for you. No, No, you have the

720
00:37:13,640 --> 00:37:16,360
Speaker 1: ocean's boiling in Florida, Like like people are just like

721
00:37:16,760 --> 00:37:17,600
Speaker 1: I just won't think about that.

722
00:37:19,600 --> 00:37:21,360
Speaker 2: I'll just think about how my I got third degree

723
00:37:21,400 --> 00:37:23,000
Speaker 2: burns from walking on the sidewalk.

724
00:37:23,239 --> 00:37:26,600
Speaker 3: Yeah, so hot outside, kidney, dude, we're going hot tubbing

725
00:37:26,640 --> 00:37:27,160
Speaker 3: in the ocean.

726
00:37:27,480 --> 00:37:31,680
Speaker 1: It's fucking tight. Yeah, that's so cool. So just can't

727
00:37:31,719 --> 00:37:35,160
Speaker 1: stand for more than ten minutes or else. Yeah, yeah,

728
00:37:35,160 --> 00:37:37,920
Speaker 1: you'll actually cook from the inside. Yeah, so you only

729
00:37:37,920 --> 00:37:39,239
Speaker 1: want to get in there for just a little bit.

730
00:37:39,880 --> 00:37:43,560
Speaker 1: You're not on blood thinners, are you? We need your

731
00:37:43,600 --> 00:37:44,680
Speaker 1: blood kicking there.

732
00:37:45,000 --> 00:37:48,279
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, you know that metaphor about like the frog

733
00:37:48,400 --> 00:37:51,440
Speaker 3: and the boiling water, Like that's actually not a metaphor anymore.

734
00:37:51,760 --> 00:37:55,319
Speaker 1: It's just like all these frog reality you need to.

735
00:37:55,320 --> 00:37:58,360
Speaker 3: Get the fuck out of there now. Well, speaking of Florida,

736
00:37:58,400 --> 00:38:01,560
Speaker 3: let's check in down there real quick, Rond de Santis.

737
00:38:02,440 --> 00:38:05,640
Speaker 3: This is like I'm enjoying Ron de Santis's campaign.

738
00:38:05,680 --> 00:38:07,200
Speaker 1: I did not think I would not.

739
00:38:07,239 --> 00:38:11,440
Speaker 3: Hutting in, but man, he is bad at this and

740
00:38:12,200 --> 00:38:16,480
Speaker 3: just there's not a true like note he is not

741
00:38:16,680 --> 00:38:19,080
Speaker 3: he has yet to hit like a note that wasn't

742
00:38:19,280 --> 00:38:26,920
Speaker 3: just like you know, just sour and like false and

743
00:38:27,320 --> 00:38:33,080
Speaker 3: completely like incapable of connecting with humans in any way.

744
00:38:33,480 --> 00:38:36,080
Speaker 1: And then like every headline that comes out every week

745
00:38:36,160 --> 00:38:38,600
Speaker 1: is some version of like people like Rond de Santis

746
00:38:38,719 --> 00:38:43,080
Speaker 1: till they fucking meet him, like they're just be doing

747
00:38:43,200 --> 00:38:45,960
Speaker 1: to his There's so many permutations of that and the

748
00:38:46,000 --> 00:38:49,120
Speaker 1: other ones like is Ron de Santis's biggest problem? Ron

749
00:38:49,239 --> 00:38:53,920
Speaker 1: de Santis? What's so funny because like I feel like

750
00:38:54,000 --> 00:38:55,960
Speaker 1: a lot of these guys come out of the woodwork,

751
00:38:56,040 --> 00:38:58,920
Speaker 1: like even like like you know, they start talking, they

752
00:38:58,960 --> 00:39:01,279
Speaker 1: start campaigning, and then they just like reveal himselves to

753
00:39:01,360 --> 00:39:04,160
Speaker 1: be the biggest freaks on Earth, like like like a

754
00:39:04,200 --> 00:39:06,120
Speaker 1: couple of years ago when I didn't know, I mean,

755
00:39:06,400 --> 00:39:08,759
Speaker 1: he was blessed to not know who Ted Cruz was,

756
00:39:09,080 --> 00:39:10,960
Speaker 1: and then he shows up and then he's just like

757
00:39:11,040 --> 00:39:14,040
Speaker 1: the biggest dueb on planet Earth. Yeah, it's like this

758
00:39:14,160 --> 00:39:18,200
Speaker 1: guy fucking sucks. He's like not even like not that

759
00:39:18,360 --> 00:39:20,479
Speaker 1: like his policies would be better if he was cool,

760
00:39:20,600 --> 00:39:23,040
Speaker 1: but like he can't even pretend to be like a

761
00:39:23,200 --> 00:39:25,960
Speaker 1: normal man. Well yeah, he's just like there's he has

762
00:39:26,080 --> 00:39:29,200
Speaker 1: like every terrible fall, like he's a coward, like on

763
00:39:29,400 --> 00:39:32,600
Speaker 1: top of being like a racist and like violently ignorant.

764
00:39:32,760 --> 00:39:34,880
Speaker 1: Is like he doesn't stand for any not even his

765
00:39:34,960 --> 00:39:37,480
Speaker 1: own wife. You're like, yeah, are you at a little girl?

766
00:39:38,200 --> 00:39:38,439
Speaker 3: Yeah?

767
00:39:40,000 --> 00:39:43,120
Speaker 2: So you know Ron DeSantis Now he's like trying to

768
00:39:43,320 --> 00:39:46,080
Speaker 2: fucking rite the ship, like he's trying to be like,

769
00:39:46,480 --> 00:39:49,080
Speaker 2: I'm the optics are so bad around everything I do,

770
00:39:49,280 --> 00:39:53,239
Speaker 2: Like I need fucking help. And he recently proclaimed that

771
00:39:53,360 --> 00:39:56,400
Speaker 2: he's moved on from his feud with Disney, which is

772
00:39:56,440 --> 00:39:58,799
Speaker 2: one of those central conflicts that has made him look

773
00:39:58,880 --> 00:40:01,680
Speaker 2: like the most pet let asshole out there. Yeah, and

774
00:40:01,800 --> 00:40:04,600
Speaker 2: so again, just to break it down again, if you recall,

775
00:40:05,040 --> 00:40:07,320
Speaker 2: Disney decided to speak up way too late in the

776
00:40:07,360 --> 00:40:09,919
Speaker 2: game when DeSantis decided to roll out his don't say

777
00:40:10,000 --> 00:40:13,000
Speaker 2: gay bill, and people were like, uh, Disney's like, oh yeah, yeah,

778
00:40:13,000 --> 00:40:15,200
Speaker 2: I actually yeah, this is bad, and people like thank you.

779
00:40:16,040 --> 00:40:18,640
Speaker 2: It was weeks late, but thank you for saying something.

780
00:40:19,040 --> 00:40:22,440
Speaker 2: This upset rob and he decided to nullify Disney's like

781
00:40:22,520 --> 00:40:25,879
Speaker 2: autonomous zone in Orlando and install his own puppet board.

782
00:40:25,920 --> 00:40:28,600
Speaker 2: And there's all that's like legal fucking maneuvering. This led

783
00:40:28,640 --> 00:40:31,160
Speaker 2: Disney to file a lawsuit against DeSantis and the state

784
00:40:31,239 --> 00:40:33,719
Speaker 2: for what they described as quote a targeted campaign of

785
00:40:33,800 --> 00:40:37,359
Speaker 2: government retaliation. True, and this led to just a ton

786
00:40:37,400 --> 00:40:39,879
Speaker 2: of people roasting him, Like even Donald Trump's like, oh,

787
00:40:39,960 --> 00:40:41,600
Speaker 2: you got an a fight with Mickey Mouse and you

788
00:40:41,680 --> 00:40:45,120
Speaker 2: got it humiliated, and like you know, everyone was just

789
00:40:45,200 --> 00:40:50,080
Speaker 2: fucking roasting his ass. And now his latest quotes about it,

790
00:40:50,200 --> 00:40:52,479
Speaker 2: he's like trying to act like this whole thing wasn't

791
00:40:52,520 --> 00:40:54,960
Speaker 2: in l the whole time. This is the last thing

792
00:40:54,960 --> 00:40:58,399
Speaker 2: he just said on CNBC. We've basically moved on. They're

793
00:40:58,480 --> 00:41:01,000
Speaker 2: suing the state of Florida, and they're going to lose

794
00:41:01,040 --> 00:41:04,680
Speaker 2: that lawsuit. So what I would say is drop the lawsuit.

795
00:41:05,400 --> 00:41:07,719
Speaker 2: So all we want to do is treat everybody the

796
00:41:07,800 --> 00:41:10,960
Speaker 2: same and let's move forward. I'm totally fine with that,

797
00:41:11,360 --> 00:41:14,040
Speaker 2: but I'm not fine with giving extraordinary privileges, you know,

798
00:41:14,120 --> 00:41:16,879
Speaker 2: to one special company at the exclusion of everybody else.

799
00:41:17,360 --> 00:41:20,319
Speaker 1: This guy really just pulled the middle school like I'm

800
00:41:20,360 --> 00:41:24,680
Speaker 1: winning this fight, so you might as well, yeah, walk away.

801
00:41:26,280 --> 00:41:29,319
Speaker 1: Jim Robinson in the opening sketch of season three, when

802
00:41:29,360 --> 00:41:36,440
Speaker 1: I start to lose, I look at my phone, like, truly,

803
00:41:36,640 --> 00:41:38,520
Speaker 1: it really doesn't feel like we're like in middle school,

804
00:41:38,560 --> 00:41:41,239
Speaker 1: like kids like talking shit that someone claps back and

805
00:41:41,600 --> 00:41:44,120
Speaker 1: makes them look like an absolute fool and then they go,

806
00:41:44,239 --> 00:41:46,640
Speaker 1: I'm actually I'm over it. Actually, like I wasn't even happy,

807
00:41:46,719 --> 00:41:49,520
Speaker 1: Like this wasn't even a fight anyway. Yes, right, come on,

808
00:41:50,920 --> 00:41:51,759
Speaker 1: fuck it right off.

809
00:41:52,520 --> 00:41:56,279
Speaker 3: It's impressive, Like I've just that we've gotten to a

810
00:41:56,360 --> 00:41:59,000
Speaker 3: place where this was like the great hope for defeating

811
00:41:59,080 --> 00:42:03,160
Speaker 3: Donald Trump. And he's just he's so bad. Every he

812
00:42:03,239 --> 00:42:06,120
Speaker 3: can't like, can't make a move that doesn't make him

813
00:42:06,160 --> 00:42:07,560
Speaker 3: look like absolute ship.

814
00:42:08,040 --> 00:42:11,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, he's just he's just a device, as Chris Crofton

815
00:42:11,719 --> 00:42:13,560
Speaker 2: would say, you know what I mean, Like he just

816
00:42:13,680 --> 00:42:16,200
Speaker 2: kind of goes where, like the shitty wind blows and

817
00:42:16,280 --> 00:42:18,080
Speaker 2: he has no real thought and like so he's just

818
00:42:18,120 --> 00:42:20,000
Speaker 2: trying to like he's just grasping at a ton of.

819
00:42:19,960 --> 00:42:23,440
Speaker 1: Ship and yeah, he's like sideshow Bob stepping on rakes.

820
00:42:23,480 --> 00:42:28,359
Speaker 3: But like as a guy, yeah, yeah, yeah, all right,

821
00:42:28,480 --> 00:42:30,640
Speaker 3: let's take a let's take another quick break, and we'll

822
00:42:30,680 --> 00:42:32,240
Speaker 3: come back and talk about some pop culture.

823
00:42:32,360 --> 00:42:33,200
Speaker 1: We'll be right back.

824
00:42:43,880 --> 00:42:48,800
Speaker 3: And we're back and let's talk video games. Hey, we

825
00:42:49,760 --> 00:42:52,960
Speaker 3: so rarely do it on this podcast, do you guys

826
00:42:53,040 --> 00:42:55,160
Speaker 3: not game miles games?

827
00:42:55,880 --> 00:42:59,919
Speaker 1: Game? Oh yeah, yeah, I'm I'm right now, like Blue

828
00:43:00,040 --> 00:43:03,080
Speaker 1: sing so many a lot of time playing Civilization six

829
00:43:03,160 --> 00:43:05,959
Speaker 1: on switch? Right, Oh interesting, Okay, I just love playing

830
00:43:06,040 --> 00:43:07,880
Speaker 1: the computer. And I was like, oh I'm gonna just

831
00:43:07,920 --> 00:43:10,080
Speaker 1: download this real quick. It was a plane game. And

832
00:43:10,160 --> 00:43:14,600
Speaker 1: then now I've like I love yeah yeah game okay,

833
00:43:15,200 --> 00:43:18,279
Speaker 1: yeah yeah, console or otherwise just not on PC. I

834
00:43:18,360 --> 00:43:23,120
Speaker 1: have the switch. I play wordle. You play Wordle on switch? Yeah.

835
00:43:23,560 --> 00:43:25,560
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm a pretty serious gamer.

836
00:43:25,800 --> 00:43:27,920
Speaker 1: That's glad to get into that. That's really cool that

837
00:43:28,040 --> 00:43:30,280
Speaker 1: you have, like probably the only switch that has wordle.

838
00:43:30,600 --> 00:43:30,839
Speaker 3: Yeah.

839
00:43:31,120 --> 00:43:32,960
Speaker 1: You see how he holds it too. You see how

840
00:43:33,000 --> 00:43:39,120
Speaker 1: he holds it vertically. Oh interesting, Yeah, that's cool. I'm

841
00:43:39,120 --> 00:43:40,879
Speaker 1: glad you have a game that you like, and that's

842
00:43:40,920 --> 00:43:42,759
Speaker 1: cool that you have Wordle on switch. It's like such

843
00:43:42,760 --> 00:43:45,600
Speaker 1: a unique that's really cool for you. I like to

844
00:43:45,600 --> 00:43:49,680
Speaker 1: play the New York Times crossword Puzzle on Switch. Yeah yeah, yeah, Okay, guys,

845
00:43:49,719 --> 00:43:51,320
Speaker 1: we're gonna have to talk offline. I don't think you

846
00:43:51,360 --> 00:43:54,680
Speaker 1: know what the game switch is, this guy is. The

847
00:43:54,760 --> 00:43:58,480
Speaker 1: important thing is to know to switch gamer. Yeah, people

848
00:43:58,640 --> 00:43:58,840
Speaker 1: like me.

849
00:43:59,640 --> 00:44:04,080
Speaker 3: So there's there's this sim game, a city planning sim

850
00:44:04,200 --> 00:44:06,320
Speaker 3: style video games. So here's the thing about me. I

851
00:44:06,480 --> 00:44:10,800
Speaker 3: will listen to a video game podcast describe video games

852
00:44:10,840 --> 00:44:12,920
Speaker 3: to me that I've never played and that I probably

853
00:44:13,000 --> 00:44:15,560
Speaker 3: never will play. And I find it very interesting to

854
00:44:15,719 --> 00:44:19,120
Speaker 3: hear about video games. I find the promise very interesting,

855
00:44:19,200 --> 00:44:19,360
Speaker 3: you know.

856
00:44:19,640 --> 00:44:22,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's a lot of We get that feedback a

857
00:44:22,480 --> 00:44:24,919
Speaker 1: lot when people are like, I don't even play video games.

858
00:44:24,960 --> 00:44:26,399
Speaker 1: I just like the show and hearing you guys talk

859
00:44:26,400 --> 00:44:28,880
Speaker 1: about them, and I'm just like, that's that's I love it.

860
00:44:28,960 --> 00:44:31,560
Speaker 1: That's great. I don't understand, but I love it because

861
00:44:31,560 --> 00:44:34,200
Speaker 1: I don't listen. I don't seek out things that I

862
00:44:34,360 --> 00:44:38,320
Speaker 1: don't do myself to, Like I don't listen to podcasts

863
00:44:38,360 --> 00:44:41,960
Speaker 1: about like welding or whatever. I like it because I

864
00:44:42,000 --> 00:44:44,359
Speaker 1: don't have an interest in it. But it hats off

865
00:44:44,400 --> 00:44:45,560
Speaker 1: to all the welders. I think it's like.

866
00:44:45,680 --> 00:44:47,759
Speaker 2: It's also like the twitch thing too, where I was

867
00:44:47,800 --> 00:44:51,600
Speaker 2: always amazing, like motherfuckers are just watching people Like I'm like, no,

868
00:44:51,800 --> 00:44:52,800
Speaker 2: give me the control.

869
00:44:53,160 --> 00:44:54,880
Speaker 1: Yeah. Then you sit down and you watch it and

870
00:44:54,960 --> 00:44:57,200
Speaker 1: you're like, I'm just like more captivated by this than

871
00:44:57,200 --> 00:45:01,680
Speaker 1: any TV show I watched this year. It's the way

872
00:45:01,800 --> 00:45:04,200
Speaker 1: he makes the characters talk shit to each other's red

873
00:45:04,280 --> 00:45:08,640
Speaker 1: did though he's almost speaking Yeah. The saltiest response is

874
00:45:08,719 --> 00:45:09,160
Speaker 1: it's fun.

875
00:45:11,320 --> 00:45:15,399
Speaker 3: So this game, like people are talking about how City

876
00:45:15,440 --> 00:45:18,799
Speaker 3: Skylines two is coming out. I guess the first one

877
00:45:18,840 --> 00:45:21,200
Speaker 3: came out in twenty fifteen. It's sold like twelve million

878
00:45:21,280 --> 00:45:24,680
Speaker 3: copies since coming out, and it's like a city planning

879
00:45:25,560 --> 00:45:30,040
Speaker 3: sim game. The video that I watched, I watched two videos,

880
00:45:30,280 --> 00:45:32,320
Speaker 3: and I will tell you which of them I recommend.

881
00:45:33,600 --> 00:45:33,759
Speaker 1: One.

882
00:45:34,120 --> 00:45:36,880
Speaker 3: In one, a guy builds a town on top of

883
00:45:36,960 --> 00:45:44,920
Speaker 3: a volcano and just absolutely repeatedly continuously pelt his city

884
00:45:45,200 --> 00:45:51,440
Speaker 3: with meteors meteor strikes, and his solution for storing his

885
00:45:51,600 --> 00:45:54,320
Speaker 3: town's sewage is to put it all in the volcano.

886
00:45:54,800 --> 00:45:57,759
Speaker 3: And then it doesn't doesn't end well, oh my god,

887
00:45:58,080 --> 00:45:58,840
Speaker 3: So for.

888
00:45:58,960 --> 00:46:02,360
Speaker 2: Like the sanitation in whatever department, like, he just routes

889
00:46:02,400 --> 00:46:04,719
Speaker 2: all of it to go into like the fucking.

890
00:46:04,719 --> 00:46:06,959
Speaker 1: Into the volcano. I'll burn it. Yeah.

891
00:46:07,480 --> 00:46:11,520
Speaker 3: Yeah, and then by the end there's a huge catastrophe.

892
00:46:11,880 --> 00:46:14,040
Speaker 3: And then the other one was like an actual city

893
00:46:14,120 --> 00:46:16,840
Speaker 3: planner being like all right, it's I'm gonna like do

894
00:46:17,160 --> 00:46:18,799
Speaker 3: do this and see how it compares with the realm.

895
00:46:19,000 --> 00:46:24,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, and that one is boring. Burn this shit with magma,

896
00:46:28,320 --> 00:46:30,160
Speaker 1: I get it. I get it. I mean if you

897
00:46:30,200 --> 00:46:34,520
Speaker 1: could weaponize magma, yeah, why not, Yeah, or use it

898
00:46:34,560 --> 00:46:37,040
Speaker 1: as a way to deal with the you know, refuse.

899
00:46:37,120 --> 00:46:40,000
Speaker 1: So yeah, yeah, we're not using magma enough, I think.

900
00:46:40,040 --> 00:46:42,800
Speaker 1: And that's something absolutely I think we should do that

901
00:46:42,880 --> 00:46:45,960
Speaker 1: probably has no ramifications on the climate. I think we

902
00:46:46,000 --> 00:46:47,640
Speaker 1: should probably so switch to magma.

903
00:46:48,280 --> 00:46:52,560
Speaker 3: Yeah, what's the is it Greenland or Iceland one of

904
00:46:52,640 --> 00:46:57,439
Speaker 3: those that's like mostly volcanic powered, like the whole, the whole.

905
00:46:57,719 --> 00:47:01,040
Speaker 3: I think it's Iceland, is like everything is like just

906
00:47:01,200 --> 00:47:05,600
Speaker 3: pipes that are working with underground.

907
00:47:07,680 --> 00:47:08,000
Speaker 1: Energy.

908
00:47:08,400 --> 00:47:11,759
Speaker 3: Anyways, it's a possibility that we should all be looking into.

909
00:47:12,120 --> 00:47:13,880
Speaker 3: But there's like there's cool stuff like you have you

910
00:47:13,920 --> 00:47:17,840
Speaker 3: can build like hydro electric dams and windmills and you know,

911
00:47:18,160 --> 00:47:20,080
Speaker 3: figure out how you want to power things. But it

912
00:47:20,120 --> 00:47:23,600
Speaker 3: seems like for this second one, they are taking a

913
00:47:23,680 --> 00:47:30,359
Speaker 3: turn more towards the actual city planning version, and there's

914
00:47:30,360 --> 00:47:33,960
Speaker 3: going to be I'm hoping you can still do probably,

915
00:47:34,200 --> 00:47:36,960
Speaker 3: but I think they're adding more of an economic element

916
00:47:37,200 --> 00:47:40,960
Speaker 3: to it. And now your city can go broke. There

917
00:47:41,000 --> 00:47:44,480
Speaker 3: will be like waves of layoffs, there will be homelessness

918
00:47:44,560 --> 00:47:45,759
Speaker 3: epidemics in.

919
00:47:46,480 --> 00:47:52,200
Speaker 1: Cities, labor too, like as an option. Is that real? Yeah? Wow,

920
00:47:52,320 --> 00:47:52,960
Speaker 1: oh my god.

921
00:47:53,760 --> 00:47:57,319
Speaker 3: So it'll be interesting, Like they're definitely opening themselves up

922
00:47:57,400 --> 00:48:02,320
Speaker 3: to because because anytime you're like having a city simulation

923
00:48:02,840 --> 00:48:06,560
Speaker 3: video game, like there are political choices tied up in

924
00:48:06,680 --> 00:48:09,520
Speaker 3: that right right right. If you decide to go like

925
00:48:09,640 --> 00:48:13,000
Speaker 3: full libertarian and like that's the way to like run

926
00:48:13,080 --> 00:48:16,640
Speaker 3: a successful city, then you're probably leaving something out and

927
00:48:16,760 --> 00:48:21,080
Speaker 3: like that reflects a political choice there. But I don't know,

928
00:48:21,680 --> 00:48:24,880
Speaker 3: this seems like it's more tilted in a here's what

929
00:48:25,040 --> 00:48:26,520
Speaker 3: actually has happened.

930
00:48:26,960 --> 00:48:29,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's I think it's like a really interesting teaching

931
00:48:29,760 --> 00:48:33,800
Speaker 2: tool too, because it's like, I video games have taught

932
00:48:33,920 --> 00:48:37,760
Speaker 2: me a lot of shit, like whether it's incorrect history

933
00:48:37,960 --> 00:48:40,640
Speaker 2: or what fucking flags look like because I was playing

934
00:48:40,640 --> 00:48:42,279
Speaker 2: so much Carmen San Diego as a kid.

935
00:48:42,560 --> 00:48:42,719
Speaker 1: Right.

936
00:48:43,000 --> 00:48:45,719
Speaker 2: Yeah, it has the capacity to like give you sort

937
00:48:45,719 --> 00:48:47,400
Speaker 2: of new ways of thinking. Like you can see it

938
00:48:47,480 --> 00:48:50,280
Speaker 2: with sports, like how Madden has affected how like even NFL,

939
00:48:50,440 --> 00:48:53,480
Speaker 2: like people play like physical football and shit like that,

940
00:48:53,880 --> 00:48:54,200
Speaker 2: but like.

941
00:48:55,080 --> 00:48:58,120
Speaker 3: How insufferable people are to talk to about football who play.

942
00:48:59,000 --> 00:49:02,719
Speaker 1: It's definitely that. But like with like a game like

943
00:49:02,800 --> 00:49:04,719
Speaker 1: this though, like where you're trying to do like you're

944
00:49:04,920 --> 00:49:07,359
Speaker 1: you know, you're you're in aging in like a sim game.

945
00:49:07,400 --> 00:49:09,840
Speaker 1: But it's also like you're now having to actually consider

946
00:49:09,960 --> 00:49:13,839
Speaker 1: these like sort of economic socioeconomic factors as to how

947
00:49:13,880 --> 00:49:16,480
Speaker 1: that works. I'm sure there's gonna be people who are

948
00:49:16,520 --> 00:49:18,280
Speaker 1: like fuck it, like I just want to burn everybody

949
00:49:18,360 --> 00:49:21,120
Speaker 1: with volcanic shit. But then I'm sure like other people

950
00:49:21,960 --> 00:49:24,600
Speaker 1: like to even see what those relationships are like in

951
00:49:24,840 --> 00:49:27,160
Speaker 1: whatever your disposition is as a person, you're gonna want

952
00:49:27,200 --> 00:49:29,120
Speaker 1: to be like, oh, no, like, how do I optimize

953
00:49:29,200 --> 00:49:31,839
Speaker 1: like the everybody doing well in this city?

954
00:49:31,960 --> 00:49:35,239
Speaker 2: Oh, I need to tax people. Oh there's revenues here

955
00:49:35,360 --> 00:49:37,680
Speaker 2: from all these like rich people, because those are all

956
00:49:37,760 --> 00:49:39,560
Speaker 2: these like levers that you can pull in the game.

957
00:49:39,680 --> 00:49:42,520
Speaker 2: So and I'm I'm really interested in it just because

958
00:49:42,800 --> 00:49:44,160
Speaker 2: part of me wants to be like, yeah, I know

959
00:49:44,239 --> 00:49:45,879
Speaker 2: how to do this and then cut to my shit

960
00:49:45,920 --> 00:49:47,600
Speaker 2: burning down with liquid magma shit.

961
00:49:47,840 --> 00:49:51,840
Speaker 1: But hey, we'll Seeah, there's this video game that I

962
00:49:52,040 --> 00:49:57,160
Speaker 1: love so much called Disco Elysium and oh yeah, just

963
00:49:57,200 --> 00:49:59,680
Speaker 1: got that on switch. You're gonna love it. It's so

964
00:50:00,239 --> 00:50:04,120
Speaker 1: it's like such a unique RPG, pointing click like adventure

965
00:50:04,160 --> 00:50:06,840
Speaker 1: type game. And what it is is you're a detective

966
00:50:06,880 --> 00:50:09,080
Speaker 1: who has amnesia and you're trying to solve a mystery

967
00:50:09,120 --> 00:50:11,600
Speaker 1: of like one, who you are, why you're there, and

968
00:50:12,040 --> 00:50:14,960
Speaker 1: this murder that has taken place. And the reason I

969
00:50:15,040 --> 00:50:18,040
Speaker 1: bring it up is because you can sort of align

970
00:50:18,160 --> 00:50:22,640
Speaker 1: politically with different political parties and that affects how you

971
00:50:22,719 --> 00:50:26,080
Speaker 1: play the game. So like you could side with fascists,

972
00:50:26,239 --> 00:50:28,799
Speaker 1: you could side with like these like neoliberal type people,

973
00:50:28,960 --> 00:50:31,200
Speaker 1: or you can be an anarchist and do sort of

974
00:50:31,280 --> 00:50:33,320
Speaker 1: like your own thing, and that's like wild. That's a

975
00:50:33,360 --> 00:50:38,879
Speaker 1: wild choice too. And it's interesting because these developers who

976
00:50:38,920 --> 00:50:42,560
Speaker 1: are from Europe. I can't remember exactly where who made

977
00:50:42,600 --> 00:50:46,440
Speaker 1: this game, Like you're winning. Yeah, it's like sort of

978
00:50:46,520 --> 00:50:50,480
Speaker 1: just like there is from Europe. Well, they sort of

979
00:50:50,520 --> 00:50:53,720
Speaker 1: had a more nuanced take on it than like an

980
00:50:53,719 --> 00:50:57,680
Speaker 1: American development team might have because they like thinking about

981
00:50:57,719 --> 00:50:59,920
Speaker 1: things a little more holistically. So, but you can play

982
00:51:00,080 --> 00:51:03,080
Speaker 1: the game a bunch of different ways and in different playthroughs,

983
00:51:03,160 --> 00:51:06,080
Speaker 1: be like a completely different guy basically, even though you're

984
00:51:06,120 --> 00:51:09,319
Speaker 1: still the one character. But it's interesting because they had

985
00:51:09,360 --> 00:51:11,800
Speaker 1: to sort of account for any sort of other political

986
00:51:11,920 --> 00:51:14,560
Speaker 1: choice you might make, so like if you follow the

987
00:51:14,680 --> 00:51:17,799
Speaker 1: fascist ending, you you know, stick with that, and there's

988
00:51:17,920 --> 00:51:20,759
Speaker 1: like the other like things you can do within that

989
00:51:20,960 --> 00:51:23,239
Speaker 1: as well that you know, I didn't pick that one,

990
00:51:23,520 --> 00:51:26,399
Speaker 1: like a totally different game, Yeah exactly. Yeah, Like that's

991
00:51:26,440 --> 00:51:29,200
Speaker 1: really interesting. So like something like this, the city Planning one,

992
00:51:29,239 --> 00:51:32,680
Speaker 1: I would hope that it wouldn't have like I also, well,

993
00:51:32,840 --> 00:51:34,600
Speaker 1: this is my sincere hope. I would hope that it's

994
00:51:34,640 --> 00:51:36,680
Speaker 1: made by good people and that there's not a fascism

995
00:51:36,760 --> 00:51:37,080
Speaker 1: part of it.

996
00:51:37,120 --> 00:51:40,000
Speaker 2: At all, Right, where it's like, yeah, everything looks way

997
00:51:40,080 --> 00:51:41,879
Speaker 2: cooler when you go full fash.

998
00:51:41,760 --> 00:51:44,120
Speaker 1: Yeah exactly. Yea, yeah, yeah, you get a bunch of

999
00:51:44,560 --> 00:51:50,440
Speaker 1: thses for like being the front racy. But like I

1000
00:51:50,640 --> 00:51:53,200
Speaker 1: would imagine that if it is like sort of like

1001
00:51:53,320 --> 00:51:55,920
Speaker 1: a singular point of view, that yeah, things are probably

1002
00:51:56,000 --> 00:51:58,600
Speaker 1: being left out, like there's not everything is being accounted for,

1003
00:51:58,719 --> 00:52:02,000
Speaker 1: and that's that is interesting. I wonder how city builders

1004
00:52:02,040 --> 00:52:05,920
Speaker 1: too will handle it. Yeah, It's it seems like there's

1005
00:52:05,960 --> 00:52:07,759
Speaker 1: a lot of like input. I mean like cause there

1006
00:52:07,800 --> 00:52:11,399
Speaker 1: are really trying to replicate like how you relationships work,

1007
00:52:11,440 --> 00:52:17,120
Speaker 1: like are so popular and so like beloved. Now there's

1008
00:52:17,120 --> 00:52:19,520
Speaker 1: so there's like a power washing simulator game and people

1009
00:52:19,640 --> 00:52:23,480
Speaker 1: just like like that because watching power watching things are

1010
00:52:23,560 --> 00:52:27,800
Speaker 1: like so satisfying, Like then you doing it yeah, is

1011
00:52:27,880 --> 00:52:29,920
Speaker 1: like its own thing too. It's like it's it's such

1012
00:52:29,920 --> 00:52:30,640
Speaker 1: a fun thing.

1013
00:52:30,800 --> 00:52:33,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, because like I was just playing you know, a

1014
00:52:33,320 --> 00:52:36,440
Speaker 2: Jedi Survivor and like that super fun and like hacking

1015
00:52:36,480 --> 00:52:39,320
Speaker 2: them up with lightsabers. But then like I I've just

1016
00:52:39,360 --> 00:52:42,279
Speaker 2: been playing so much Civilization and I realize it's like

1017
00:52:42,400 --> 00:52:45,000
Speaker 2: the difference between like playing like sort of these like

1018
00:52:45,200 --> 00:52:48,200
Speaker 2: tent pole games that are super like action packed are

1019
00:52:48,280 --> 00:52:50,440
Speaker 2: just kind of like these really huge bursts of energy,

1020
00:52:50,680 --> 00:52:52,560
Speaker 2: whereas like when I play SIMS, I feel like I'm

1021
00:52:52,600 --> 00:52:54,799
Speaker 2: sculpting something because it takes time.

1022
00:52:54,960 --> 00:52:57,280
Speaker 1: Like it's not the game, you know, it's just it's

1023
00:52:57,320 --> 00:52:59,120
Speaker 1: a it's as in depth as you want to go.

1024
00:52:59,280 --> 00:53:01,799
Speaker 1: So I think because of that, the like the way

1025
00:53:01,880 --> 00:53:05,680
Speaker 1: you engage with it as much deeper and much more patient.

1026
00:53:05,719 --> 00:53:07,520
Speaker 1: And I think, I don't know, like I'm finding myself

1027
00:53:07,640 --> 00:53:10,920
Speaker 1: really liking that part of gaming again, Yeah, the process

1028
00:53:11,000 --> 00:53:13,800
Speaker 1: of it, rather than like the instant dopamine hit of like,

1029
00:53:13,920 --> 00:53:16,279
Speaker 1: oh shit, can I use dual lightsabers and fucking cut

1030
00:53:16,360 --> 00:53:19,480
Speaker 1: this droid in three? I loved that game as well,

1031
00:53:19,520 --> 00:53:23,880
Speaker 1: and that was just specifically why because I loved I

1032
00:53:23,960 --> 00:53:28,000
Speaker 1: loved the Kylo Ren stance. Yeah, that heavy stance. I

1033
00:53:28,160 --> 00:53:30,880
Speaker 1: just loved dripping through people like that. I was all

1034
00:53:31,040 --> 00:53:32,879
Speaker 1: using the blaster, you know what I mean? Oh yeah,

1035
00:53:34,400 --> 00:53:38,000
Speaker 1: with that you know always you never never, never caught lacking.

1036
00:53:38,800 --> 00:53:42,319
Speaker 3: That that game is Like, once my seven year old

1037
00:53:42,560 --> 00:53:45,200
Speaker 3: finds out that that game exists, like I will lose

1038
00:53:45,320 --> 00:53:46,680
Speaker 3: him as a human being.

1039
00:53:46,840 --> 00:53:49,480
Speaker 1: Oh you will be gone from me. You gotta go

1040
00:53:49,560 --> 00:53:51,680
Speaker 1: incremental man like he just runs.

1041
00:53:51,480 --> 00:53:53,719
Speaker 3: Around our house pretending to do the ship that you

1042
00:53:53,760 --> 00:53:55,560
Speaker 3: guys just described, just like all that.

1043
00:53:55,800 --> 00:54:02,960
Speaker 4: He's just like oh right, yeah, he's like yeah, yeah,

1044
00:54:03,400 --> 00:54:06,520
Speaker 4: does he have a little lightsaber? Oh yeah, yeah yeah,

1045
00:54:06,600 --> 00:54:10,080
Speaker 4: oh hes got lightsabers. He's also got like just anything

1046
00:54:10,160 --> 00:54:14,759
Speaker 4: becomes a lightsaber. You know, like four markers going and.

1047
00:54:16,520 --> 00:54:19,759
Speaker 1: That was such a thing. Yeah, that was like the

1048
00:54:19,880 --> 00:54:21,400
Speaker 1: ultimate thing you could do with markers.

1049
00:54:22,120 --> 00:54:24,000
Speaker 2: And that's like a baton and ship and then you

1050
00:54:24,120 --> 00:54:26,600
Speaker 2: always got mad when you hit something and just fucking shattered.

1051
00:54:26,680 --> 00:54:32,239
Speaker 3: Because yeah, this is probably an impossible question and not

1052
00:54:32,360 --> 00:54:34,359
Speaker 3: one I should be asking with like a minute left

1053
00:54:34,400 --> 00:54:36,800
Speaker 3: in our show, But like what would you say, Like

1054
00:54:37,000 --> 00:54:41,600
Speaker 3: how's the political content of the video game industry compare

1055
00:54:42,000 --> 00:54:46,080
Speaker 3: to like, you know, movies are made in Hollywood and

1056
00:54:46,160 --> 00:54:49,640
Speaker 3: they like think of themselves as being pretty liberal, but

1057
00:54:49,760 --> 00:54:51,800
Speaker 3: then like they're also you know doing the work of

1058
00:54:52,440 --> 00:54:55,840
Speaker 3: the military and ship, Like is it like kind of

1059
00:54:55,880 --> 00:54:57,520
Speaker 3: the same in the video game industry?

1060
00:54:57,719 --> 00:54:59,960
Speaker 1: Is it? I feel like a lot of video game

1061
00:55:00,000 --> 00:55:02,480
Speaker 1: games don't really do. Like there are some games that

1062
00:55:02,560 --> 00:55:05,040
Speaker 1: are like overtly like political. Like there's this game called

1063
00:55:05,080 --> 00:55:07,800
Speaker 1: Papers Please, where you're like at like a border and

1064
00:55:08,040 --> 00:55:10,400
Speaker 1: like you are checking people's like papers when they're not

1065
00:55:10,600 --> 00:55:13,680
Speaker 1: allowed to come out. Yeah, exactly, that's interesting. Discolsium. I

1066
00:55:13,680 --> 00:55:16,279
Speaker 1: would say it's like a pretty political video game, but

1067
00:55:16,520 --> 00:55:19,160
Speaker 1: like from as far as like Triple A titles, I

1068
00:55:19,239 --> 00:55:23,120
Speaker 1: don't think they're getting more political than like Call of Duty,

1069
00:55:23,360 --> 00:55:25,719
Speaker 1: like that's like you know, sort of like the army

1070
00:55:25,840 --> 00:55:27,680
Speaker 1: is good, Like that's like the thing is like yeah,

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Speaker 1: that's it.

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Speaker 2: But I mean some are rock stars games like you

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Speaker 2: can tell are made with a little more thought, like

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Speaker 2: there's because those are like satire, Like it's particularly Grand

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Speaker 2: Theft thoughto or like satire video games, but that in

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Speaker 2: mass people have ignored that part of it, and people

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Speaker 2: like the worst people are like Grand.

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Speaker 1: Theft Auto is like the best fucking thing ever, dude.

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Speaker 1: It's fun and it's like interesting, and like they do

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Speaker 1: they are making fun of, like you know, all sides

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00:55:53,960 --> 00:55:56,200
Speaker 1: of the political spectrum, I guess, but it is like

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00:55:56,840 --> 00:56:01,400
Speaker 1: sometimes done with the less delicate hand in certain directions

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00:56:01,440 --> 00:56:05,880
Speaker 1: than they should in other directions. But I think they

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Speaker 1: tried to do some of that in that Cyberpunk twenty

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00:56:08,080 --> 00:56:11,120
Speaker 1: seventy seven also, but like it actually is just kind

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Speaker 1: of it's stupid, Like he doesn't he doesn't really say anything,

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Speaker 1: like it is kind of just like oh, like yeah,

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00:56:16,920 --> 00:56:19,520
Speaker 1: you can align with the cops or like you can

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00:56:19,640 --> 00:56:22,279
Speaker 1: like be like you end up doing a bunch of

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Speaker 1: errands for cops actually, and that feels like the shittiest

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Speaker 1: thing ever. Like that's all video games, though, you are

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00:56:27,600 --> 00:56:30,000
Speaker 1: Spider Man. In the Spider Man game, you're helping cops

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Speaker 1: all the time, or like this sucks. I hate helping cops.

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00:56:32,840 --> 00:56:35,239
Speaker 1: I would never be caught dead helping a coup. That's

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00:56:35,239 --> 00:56:38,799
Speaker 1: also movement, right, Like yeah, true too. The default protagonist

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Speaker 1: is cops. Yeah, since I was the only good guys

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00:56:41,760 --> 00:56:44,279
Speaker 1: are cops. Yeah, yeah, fucking good guy.

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Speaker 3: And like my favorite movie is Jaws, like randomly the

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Speaker 3: best the protagonist that that's a fucking cop for some reason,

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Speaker 3: Like what man, why is the protagonist of.

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00:56:54,120 --> 00:56:56,080
Speaker 1: Jaws a cop? The only good guy in Jaws is

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00:56:56,160 --> 00:56:59,399
Speaker 1: a shark. That's right. Yeah, that's an brother. Get out

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00:56:59,400 --> 00:57:02,160
Speaker 1: of his ocean, not messing with him. Yeah, you're fucking

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Speaker 1: up my house. That's why I'm so close to y'all ship.

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Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, all right, well, Matt, truly a pleasure having

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Speaker 3: you on the show. Can people find you, follow you

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Speaker 3: all that good stuff.

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Speaker 1: Look, it's tough now with social media. I'm not on X.

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00:57:19,560 --> 00:57:21,440
Speaker 1: I used to be on Twitter. I used to really

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00:57:21,520 --> 00:57:23,760
Speaker 1: love being on there. I had some nice followers there.

1111
00:57:23,800 --> 00:57:27,040
Speaker 1: I left. I'm not there anymore. You can follow me

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Speaker 1: on Instagram, which I acknowledge is also a bad place

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00:57:30,640 --> 00:57:33,840
Speaker 1: to be. But like, well, we got to wait and

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Speaker 1: see who wins the fight. Well, yeah, it is my

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00:57:37,920 --> 00:57:41,600
Speaker 1: sincere hope that Zuckerberg hits him one time and his

1116
00:57:41,720 --> 00:57:46,280
Speaker 1: head falls. I just want the funniest thing to have,

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00:57:46,520 --> 00:57:48,840
Speaker 1: like sock them, like rock them, sock them, robot. It

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00:57:48,960 --> 00:57:52,320
Speaker 1: just like goes up. Yeah, but I'm on I'm on there.

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00:57:52,840 --> 00:57:55,800
Speaker 1: I'm on threads, But like, am I on threads? What's

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00:57:55,880 --> 00:57:59,720
Speaker 1: on threads? You know who's on first, But otherwise you

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00:57:59,800 --> 00:58:05,560
Speaker 1: know I'm on God, my brain just completely stopped. I'm

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00:58:05,600 --> 00:58:08,680
Speaker 1: on the podcast Get Played with Nick Wiger and Heather

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Speaker 1: and Campbell. Check that out wherever you get punts. We

1124
00:58:11,200 --> 00:58:14,640
Speaker 1: have an anime Patreon show called Get Animated where we're talking.

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00:58:14,840 --> 00:58:16,960
Speaker 1: We talked. We watched like an entire series of anime,

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00:58:17,480 --> 00:58:20,160
Speaker 1: two episodes at a time, for several weeks, and then

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00:58:20,200 --> 00:58:23,320
Speaker 1: we talk about it. We did Neon Genesis Evangeli, and

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Speaker 1: we did the show called Licorus Recoil. We watched uh god,

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00:58:28,200 --> 00:58:29,960
Speaker 1: we watched Akira on there. I had never seen a

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00:58:30,040 --> 00:58:34,480
Speaker 1: Kira before. Oh man, that's a great I watched that

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00:58:34,680 --> 00:58:36,840
Speaker 1: fairly recently. I watched it guy for the first time,

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00:58:36,880 --> 00:58:39,080
Speaker 1: like last year, and was like, this is like one

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00:58:39,120 --> 00:58:40,320
Speaker 1: of the best movies I've ever seen.

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Speaker 3: I was like, it's so incredible. Yeah, why was this

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Speaker 3: kept from me? I had Why was this not like

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00:58:46,080 --> 00:58:47,760
Speaker 3: one of the first movies I saw. Yeah, I mean

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00:58:47,760 --> 00:58:50,960
Speaker 3: I guess probably because it's maybe not appropriate.

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00:58:51,000 --> 00:58:55,080
Speaker 1: It's yeah, rted R. I mean that's why we're still

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Speaker 1: waiting for that live action. I would be interested. I

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00:58:57,760 --> 00:58:59,080
Speaker 1: don't know if they need to do it, but I

1141
00:58:59,200 --> 00:59:01,360
Speaker 1: know that I feel like I heard that Taiko Yitt

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00:59:01,640 --> 00:59:03,960
Speaker 1: was supposed to be doing it or something. Yeah, yeah,

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00:59:04,240 --> 00:59:06,640
Speaker 1: and I trust Tycho with that. I think you could

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00:59:06,680 --> 00:59:08,520
Speaker 1: do it well. See. Yeah, I mean it is one

1145
00:59:08,520 --> 00:59:11,080
Speaker 1: of those things where like on its own, it's completely amazing,

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00:59:11,280 --> 00:59:13,560
Speaker 1: but there's there's just something about that esthetic where like

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00:59:13,760 --> 00:59:16,360
Speaker 1: I would welcome to see that like sort of irl.

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00:59:16,880 --> 00:59:20,320
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, like a future that isn't that didn't come true,

1149
00:59:20,760 --> 00:59:22,920
Speaker 1: Like it is like an interesting sort of like setting right,

1150
00:59:23,040 --> 00:59:25,200
Speaker 1: like in terms of like technology and fashion, Like I

1151
00:59:25,240 --> 00:59:27,040
Speaker 1: think that movie is set in like twenty fifteen or

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00:59:27,080 --> 00:59:30,480
Speaker 1: something like, yeah, and that's now long past, and like

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00:59:30,720 --> 00:59:34,560
Speaker 1: it's nothing like that now yeah yeah, oh yeah twenty nineteen. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: It's like it's just so interesting. But the slide works

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Speaker 1: on in live action. You've seen it in things. I thought,

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Speaker 1: I having not seen it before, I thought the slide

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00:59:46,040 --> 00:59:51,280
Speaker 1: like on the motorcycle was like the main thing, Like

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00:59:51,720 --> 00:59:53,880
Speaker 1: this is certainly like the climax of the movie, him

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00:59:53,920 --> 00:59:57,000
Speaker 1: sliding on this motorcycle. And then it happens ten minutes

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Speaker 1: into the movie. I was like, well, what the hell

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00:59:58,520 --> 01:00:01,240
Speaker 1: is the rest of this ye, and then it becomes

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01:00:01,320 --> 01:00:03,560
Speaker 1: the crazy, it becomes insane, and you're like, oh this

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01:00:03,760 --> 01:00:06,040
Speaker 1: this rocks. But those are the two things that I

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Speaker 1: would like to plug. And oh I have I worked.

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Speaker 1: I produced this other show that's on the Ewolf Presents

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Speaker 1: feed called Expo Xpos with my pal Jacob Waizaki, and

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01:00:15,760 --> 01:00:18,800
Speaker 1: we went to a bunch of different expos in southern

1168
01:00:18,880 --> 01:00:22,760
Speaker 1: California and interviewed people there and and it's like it's

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01:00:22,800 --> 01:00:25,240
Speaker 1: a very like sweet and like sincere show. It's not

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01:00:25,520 --> 01:00:28,000
Speaker 1: it's a comedy show, but like it's not that like

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01:00:28,880 --> 01:00:31,080
Speaker 1: that type of shing. Usually you see people going up

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01:00:31,120 --> 01:00:32,760
Speaker 1: to people and like making fun of the people there

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01:00:32,880 --> 01:00:35,640
Speaker 1: or whatever. It's like a very genuine like we're trying

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01:00:35,680 --> 01:00:37,680
Speaker 1: to just figure out what is going on here and

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01:00:37,720 --> 01:00:40,920
Speaker 1: why people like it and learning about the different subcultures

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Speaker 1: they're in. And it's uh, I think it's it came

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Speaker 1: out really great and I hope people check it out.

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Speaker 1: Oh amazing.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, is there a work of media that you've been enjoying?

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Speaker 1: I guess you just told us about a couple those things,

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01:00:51,480 --> 01:00:53,400
Speaker 1: But I guess I'm on those things. So that's like

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01:00:53,480 --> 01:00:57,080
Speaker 1: that that that that that don't count the Oh, my

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01:00:57,240 --> 01:01:01,040
Speaker 1: friend Chris Farren put out an album recently called Doom

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01:01:01,160 --> 01:01:04,000
Speaker 1: Singer and it's very good. It's a great it's a

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01:01:04,040 --> 01:01:07,000
Speaker 1: great album. Check out the song Cosmic Leash And if

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Speaker 1: that doesn't hook you, what the heck's wrong with? Yeah?

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Speaker 1: You have ears?

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Speaker 3: You got ears, you gotta function year you can get

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Speaker 3: hooked on this. Yeah, Miles, where can people find you?

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Speaker 3: Is there workI media you've been enjoying?

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01:01:21,360 --> 01:01:24,360
Speaker 1: Yeah, all the at based websites at Miles of Gray.

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Speaker 1: That's m I L E. S g R A Y.

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Speaker 2: It's wild when sometimes people reach out like type my

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01:01:31,080 --> 01:01:35,440
Speaker 2: handle but then misspell my first names. But hey, it

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01:01:35,680 --> 01:01:39,360
Speaker 2: is what it's And also find us on the basketball

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Speaker 2: podcast Myles and Jack Got Mad Boosties. Also the new

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Speaker 2: true crime show I'm doing The Good Thief talking about

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Speaker 2: the Greek robin Hood and also fiance Yeah, yeah, yeah, check.

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Speaker 1: It all out.

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Speaker 2: A tweet I like, is this from Jesse McLaren at

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Speaker 2: Mcjesse tweeted country musicians are like, y'all, there's two things

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Speaker 2: I can't stand, socialism and the exploitation of my labor

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Speaker 2: by the bourgeoisie.

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Speaker 1: Yesterday. That is so good. Yeah, man, shit Richmond, north

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Speaker 1: of Richmond, you know what I'm saying. Yeah, exactly.

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Speaker 3: You can find me on Twitter at Jack Underscore, O'Brian

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01:02:20,600 --> 01:02:23,440
Speaker 3: on threads at Jack Underscore, Oh Underscore Brian.

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Speaker 1: A couple tweets I've been enjoying.

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Speaker 3: Kings Lay tweeted, I'm a huge fan of that post

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Speaker 3: laundry feeling where you've got all your A list clothes

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Speaker 3: back in the game. Yeah, man, truly, particularly the underwear,

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Speaker 3: like I just have like some pairs of underwear that

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Speaker 3: are like much better than the rest. There's a real,

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Speaker 3: real big differentiation between the A list and C list

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Speaker 3: there so, and then Harrison Wine red tweeted it's cool

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Speaker 3: when a bathroom stall has a coat hook, Like, yeah,

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Speaker 3: fuck it, I'll hang out. You can find us on

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Speaker 3: Twitter at daily Zeikeist. We're at the Daily Zeikeeist on Instagram.

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Speaker 3: We have a Facebook fan page on a website, Daily

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Speaker 3: zeikeist dot com where post our episodes and our footnotes

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Speaker 3: where we link off to the information that we talked

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Speaker 3: about in today's episode, as well as a song.

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Speaker 1: Do we think you might enjoy?

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Speaker 3: Miles, what's a song that you think people might enjoy?

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Speaker 1: Oh? This is gonna be a remix of the banger

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Speaker 1: from the Ots? L right, was it the Hots? Remember tweet?

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Speaker 1: Oh my, oh my, oh big gold musher? Remember that's

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Speaker 1: anyway some of us really remember that track. Anyway. There's

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Speaker 1: like a house technoi ish remix of that, uh, and

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Speaker 1: it's really dope. It's called Couldn't Catch My Breath. So

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Speaker 1: check this one out from DJ house Plants. DJ house

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Speaker 1: Plant's great name.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, all right, we'll link off to that in the

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Speaker 3: footnotes The Daily Zai's production by Heart Radio. For more

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Speaker 3: podcasts from My Heart Radio, visit the iHeartRadio app, Apple

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Speaker 3: podcast wherever.

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01:03:53,680 --> 01:03:54,640
Speaker 1: You listen to your favorite shows.

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Speaker 3: That's going to do it for us this morning, back

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Speaker 3: this afternoon to tell you what's trending, and we will

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Speaker 3: talk to you all then Fight by