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Speaker 2: Welcome in What Riven nick Wright Episode two eighty six,
Speaker 2: got a lot to do today, I need I'm trying
Speaker 2: to have this show today not be ninety minutes, so
Speaker 2: we'll hop right into it. Here's what missed the cut? Uh,
Speaker 2: just a ridiculous way for the Colts to lose in
Speaker 2: the sin into their playoff hopes. The NBA Cup final tonight.
Speaker 2: Not in the show, but it is great matchup Jannis
Speaker 2: and Shay and the Drones in New Jersey that I
Speaker 2: have dedicated absolutely zero mental band with two locked into
Speaker 2: the NFL. Also a little poker stuff that I might
Speaker 2: be able to update you guys about Demand's great to
Speaker 2: see you. Hope you had a wonderful weekend. Heard you
Speaker 2: made some great chicken noodle soup. I'm told I was
Speaker 2: told to ask you how how did it turn out?
Speaker 2: Go on a scale of one to ten, give it
Speaker 2: a grade.
Speaker 3: I'd have to give it a f. I didn't get done.
Speaker 3: All go back in there this weekend.
Speaker 2: Sorry about that. That's kind of a bummer of a
Speaker 2: way to start the show. My apologies. I didn't mean
Speaker 2: to do there. You could have just been like I had,
Speaker 2: give it a six. I'll do better next time. But
Speaker 2: I appreciate that your first instinct is honesty. All right,
Speaker 2: Let's get to the football from the weekend.
Speaker 3: Go ahead, all right, Yeah, So the Chiefs won a
Speaker 3: little bit more convincingly against the Browns this weekend. But
Speaker 3: Patrick Mahomes went down with another high ankle spring. How
Speaker 3: are you feeling about that? By the way, you're nervous.
Speaker 3: I know we've been here before.
Speaker 2: I'll get into that in a moment. It is part
Speaker 2: of the answer, So go ahead.
Speaker 3: But yeah, so Josh Allen and the Bills they beat
Speaker 3: the lines and have put up ninety over the last
Speaker 3: couple of games. So it seems like that conversation of
Speaker 3: who the best quarterback is is back back in action,
Speaker 3: and would you say that that's fair.
Speaker 2: Yeah, So this enraged me yesterday on television, and so
Speaker 2: first a little news I guess on Patrick. Anyone saying
Speaker 2: Kansas City should consider shutting him down for the season
Speaker 2: until the playoffs, I can tell you it is a
Speaker 2: zero percent chance of that happening. Zero percent. There is
Speaker 2: no chance he is shut down for the season. And
Speaker 2: folks operating as if it is a guarantee that he
Speaker 2: does not play this week are incorrect. Now I'm not
Speaker 2: sitting here telling you, oh Man hammer the Chiefs plus
Speaker 2: two and a half because he's definitely playing and that
Speaker 2: line will flip back to Chiefs by four, which it
Speaker 2: was before the injury news. I'm not saying that. What
Speaker 2: I am saying is it has not yet been determined
Speaker 2: if he is or isn't playing this week. I personally
Speaker 2: would not play him this week and then plan to
Speaker 2: play him Wednesday against the Steelers. That way he doesn't
Speaker 2: have that super compressed rest. But that's the news on it.
Speaker 2: Now to this best Quarterback of live conversation, which is
Speaker 2: utterly and thoroughly and legitimately not only maddening and I
Speaker 2: don't want to sound to hyperbolic here, but an indictment
Speaker 2: on our state of conversational affairs and an indictment on
Speaker 2: folks ability to actually follow their own edicts. Okay, so
Speaker 2: let me give you guys a quick recap of the
Speaker 2: best quarterback a live discussion over the last few years.
Speaker 2: Going into twenty twenty two, it was an actual legitimate
Speaker 2: debate to have Mahomes had won an MVP in twenty
Speaker 2: eighteen and and then won the Super Bowl and Super
Speaker 2: Bowl MVP in twenty nineteen, then had really a historically
Speaker 2: great twenty twenty season. But Tom Brady, who had won
Speaker 2: the Super Bowl in twenty eighteen in his first year
Speaker 2: with Tampa, they rally at the end of the year.
Speaker 2: He's spectacular, the defense is great, beats Mahomes in the
Speaker 2: Super Bowl. Meanwhile, as that's happening, Aaron Rodgers bounces back
Speaker 2: wins League MVP. Twenty twenty one comes around, Brady almost
Speaker 2: wins League MVP at forty something years old. Aaron Rodgers
Speaker 2: wins another MVP, and Mahomes has an awful second half
Speaker 2: against the Bengals in the playoffs and they don't make
Speaker 2: the super Bowl, going for their third straight appearance in
Speaker 2: the Super Bowl, and then the chief trade Tyreek Hill,
Speaker 2: and it's like, oh, my goodness, this is a real discussion.
Speaker 2: Is it Brady still unbelievably? Is it Patrick? Is it
Speaker 2: Aaron Rodgers? Those are the candidates. That was also the
Speaker 2: year of the thirteen second playoff game, and that was
Speaker 2: the year some of the Josh Allen stuff really started
Speaker 2: to take off in a historically unprecedented manner. Where again
Speaker 2: we've talked about it before, Josh got more credit for
Speaker 2: almost beating the Chiefs than Joe Burrow got for actually
Speaker 2: beating the Chiefs, and they both got more credit than
Speaker 2: Matt Stafford got for actually beating the team that beat
Speaker 2: the Chiefs, which is the team that beat the Bills
Speaker 2: and winning the Super Bowl. So there we're at in
Speaker 2: twenty twenty two. Then in twenty twenty two, without Hill,
Speaker 2: Patrick Mahomes has a masterclass. The Chiefs of the number
Speaker 2: one seed. They're the highest scoring team in the league.
Speaker 2: They put up the most yards of anyone in the league.
Speaker 2: Mahomes has more yards in the season than any quarterback
Speaker 2: in NFL history. In the playoffs, he suffers a brutal injury,
Speaker 2: misses no time, beats Joe Burrow with a drive with
Speaker 2: thirty seconds left in the game, then puts up thirty
Speaker 2: eight points in a Super Bowl to win the game,
Speaker 2: with the critical play being a thirty yard run on
Speaker 2: a busted up ankle. And everyone says okay, oh yeah,
Speaker 2: And Tom Brady retires and Aaron Rodgers misses the playoffs
Speaker 2: and Josh Allen loses a home playoff game getting blown
Speaker 2: out to Joe Burrow. All right, That's how twenty twenty
Speaker 2: two went, and the best quarterback live discussion was over
Speaker 2: Brady's out of the league. Rogers is on the down
Speaker 2: slope and leaving Green Bay. Josh Allen had his just
Speaker 2: a horrific playoff loss and a middling regular season. Burrow
Speaker 2: couldn't get it done. And Patrick has one of the
Speaker 2: greatest years anyone's had in the history of the sport. Again,
Speaker 2: the most yards anyone's ever had, most points in the league,
Speaker 2: most yards in the league by a team, thirty eight
Speaker 2: points in the Super Bowl, and did it on an injury.
Speaker 2: That's how twenty twenty two ended, and everyone unanimously said
Speaker 2: all the media, this might be the best quarterback I've
Speaker 2: ever seen, certainly the best quarterback in the league. Then
Speaker 2: we get to last year, and last year the Chiefs
Speaker 2: look shaky start to finish. Mahomes has his worst statistic season.
Speaker 2: Now it's not as bad as the season, and Aaron
Speaker 2: Rodgers is out of it because popped his achilles. Tom
Speaker 2: Brady is retired. Lamar at this point two straight years,
Speaker 2: by the way, let's bring him into it, has not
Speaker 2: finished the season healthy two straight years, has not played
Speaker 2: in a playoff game when we're into twenty twenty three,
Speaker 2: so he's not in the discussion at that time. It's Josh, Joe,
Speaker 2: and Patrick, but it's really just Patrick. But then the
Speaker 2: season starts and Patrick is struggling, but Joe's not there
Speaker 2: to take advantage of it because he's injured at the
Speaker 2: start of the year and playing poorly. Finally plays well,
Speaker 2: then he's injured again. Josh, the story last year was
Speaker 2: holy shit, that's a lot of turnovers. So much so
Speaker 2: they're five or six and six and fire the offensive coordinator,
Speaker 2: and the big shift they make is they become a
Speaker 2: more run centric team. But the Chiefs keep looking shaky
Speaker 2: and keep looking bad, and everyone says, oh, my goodness,
Speaker 2: they're gonna be on the road, which was correct. They're vulnerable,
Speaker 2: They're not the same. It's the worst receiving cores in
Speaker 2: the league. They're cooked. And then Patrick plays four games
Speaker 2: of perfect football in the playoffs, going up against the
Speaker 2: league's highest score or the most prolific offense in Miami
Speaker 2: and blowing them out, going into Josh's building and wildly
Speaker 2: outplaying him, going into Lamar's building and wildly outplaying him,
Speaker 2: and then playing in the Super Bowl against Purty who
Speaker 2: almost won MVP and out playing him, and everyone says, okay, seriously,
Speaker 2: this time, we won't have this debate again. My bad,
Speaker 2: I'm sorry. Of the active quarterbacks starting quarterbacks now, the
Speaker 2: only other one with MVPs again, if we take Rogers
Speaker 2: out of you know, was forty and missed the year,
Speaker 2: is Lamar, who has as many MVPs as playoff victories.
Speaker 2: None of them have Super Bowl wins. Of the guys
Speaker 2: in the discussion, and okay, yeah, we won't make that
Speaker 2: mistake again. Now we get to this season where there
Speaker 2: is not another quarterback in the league that coming off
Speaker 2: back to back Super Bowls with this schedule and this
Speaker 2: expectation and it being everyone super Bowl would have this
Speaker 2: team thirteen and one. They're thirteen and one. They have
Speaker 2: the best record in the league after a rocky opening
Speaker 2: six games of the season that they were undefeated despite
Speaker 2: Patrick's play, He's played great, and folks are like, yeah,
Speaker 2: you know, I just think Josh is better and we've
Speaker 2: never seen it happen in sports and be like, oh,
Speaker 2: it's like Brady Manning. Brady Manning. When that was a
Speaker 2: debate in the mid twenty tens, Peyton's numbers for his
Speaker 2: career and MVPs were so overwhelming compared to Tom's. Peyton
Speaker 2: had far better stats multiple MVPs. Tom had neither. Josh
Speaker 2: Allen is having an awesome year. This year Josh Allen
Speaker 2: Is having is not would not be one of the
Speaker 2: three best seasons Patrick Mahomes has had in his career.
Speaker 2: Twenty eighteen, Patrick was better than this. Twenty twenty, the
Speaker 2: forgotten season when Patrick had had thirty eight touchdown six picks,
Speaker 2: five thousand yard or forty seven hundred yards. Part of
Speaker 2: me would have been five thousand, but he skipped the
Speaker 2: final game and they went fourteen to one and twenty
Speaker 2: twenty two, Patrick was better than this. Again, Josh having
Speaker 2: a great year, And I gotta listen to people saying
Speaker 2: Josh Allen at his best as the best quarterback I've
Speaker 2: ever seen, which is just utter nonsense. It's just total foolishness.
Speaker 2: I have to listen to people saying, oh no, like
Speaker 2: it is now a real debate. Is Josh Allen having
Speaker 2: a better individual season than Patrick Mahomes? Of course this year,
Speaker 2: there's no doubt about that. There's no argument there. So
Speaker 2: was Lamar. By the way, there's no argument there. But
Speaker 2: in order to be in the best quarterback alive discussion,
Speaker 2: first of all, it probably helps to not be playing
Speaker 2: at the exact same time as the best quarterback ever.
Speaker 2: But take that part out of it. Historically speaking, you
Speaker 2: always had to have some accomplishment. And so for the
Speaker 2: guys in it, I will ask you, Demansey, I'm gonna
Speaker 2: put you on the spot. There's a little unfair, so
Speaker 2: it can be a little rhetorical. What's the best win
Speaker 2: of Josh Allen's career? Does somebody tell me? I'd love
Speaker 2: to know it. Was it the playoff game against Skyler Thompson?
Speaker 2: Was it the playoff win against Lamar Jackson when it
Speaker 2: was ten to three and then Lamar threw a pick six,
Speaker 2: they won seventeen to three. What's the best win of
Speaker 2: his career? I want to know.
Speaker 3: I mean, I can't think of it. People are predicating
Speaker 3: everything based off of what they've who can beat the
Speaker 3: Chiefs and Mahomes. I do think those regular season wins
Speaker 3: is where it carries weight in people's heads, and then
Speaker 3: you get to the postseason and you see the regular season. Okay,
Speaker 3: the regular season win didn't matter, but I do think
Speaker 3: that a lot of people saw that Josh Allen beat
Speaker 3: Mahomes head up. This year, he's having this year, I
Speaker 3: think coming into this season. Here's the thing.
Speaker 2: He beat head up. He beat him head up in
Speaker 2: the regular season last three times they played. That's and listen. Okay,
Speaker 2: So right now, the leading contender for the best win
Speaker 2: of Josh Allen's career is an early season, regular season
Speaker 2: game against the Chiefs. Got it? Now, let's bring because
Speaker 2: folks want to we do the same thing with Lamar.
Speaker 2: What's Lamar's biggest moment? Playoff win against Houston is the answer.
Speaker 2: I know that one. That's his that's his biggest moment
Speaker 2: and then we'll see if you build on it. You
Speaker 2: don't get to swear to an audience as everyone in
Speaker 2: the media did in February last year. I'll never make
Speaker 2: this mistake again. I'll never be dumb enough to say
Speaker 2: someone's better than this guy, or this guy doesn't have it,
Speaker 2: or argue about it. And everybody did. It was across
Speaker 2: the board. All the folks who said no, this is
Speaker 2: the year, last year, they don't have it then paid
Speaker 2: their pound of flesh by saying my bad, won't do
Speaker 2: it again. And the fact that we are seeing people
Speaker 2: do it again when the Chiefs are the only one
Speaker 2: loss team in the league is unfucking believable. Truly, when
Speaker 2: every time this year Patrick's had the ball in his
Speaker 2: hands with a chance to go win the game, he's
Speaker 2: done it, and people are still like, uh, yeah, it's
Speaker 2: just I've changed my mind. It's embarrassing. It undercuts your
Speaker 2: ability to be taken seriously as an analyst as opposed
Speaker 2: to just seeing where the wind's blowing. And there is
Speaker 2: a very weird narrative piece of this, which is Jared
Speaker 2: Goff has had a spectacular year. One horrific game where
Speaker 2: he threw five picks, they somehow won anyway, Jared Goff
Speaker 2: just had a five hundred yard, five touchdown game, his
Speaker 2: team allowed forty and they lost, and everyone's like, Okay,
Speaker 2: MVP race over, it's Josh Allen's which Josh would have
Speaker 2: my vote right now? For the record. Nine days ago,
Speaker 2: Josh had did exactly what Jared just did and everyone
Speaker 2: said it helped him. Nine days ago, Josh scored forty
Speaker 2: in a loss, had unbelievable stats. Are like, that's why
Speaker 2: he's MVP. This week, Jared Goff is five hundred yards
Speaker 2: and five touchdowns and a loss. We were like, MVP
Speaker 2: race over, it's Josh's it's uh and listen, I think
Speaker 2: the guy's playing great. I truly do, and I think
Speaker 2: he is right now heaving Josh Allen the deserving MVP.
Speaker 2: But I cannot believe we are back to a place
Speaker 2: when the defense the two time defending Super Bowl MVP
Speaker 2: has his team at thirteen and one, going for a
Speaker 2: three peat, with a season where they have lost either
Speaker 2: for the year or for giant portions of the year.
Speaker 2: Number one running back number one, two, four and five,
Speaker 2: wide receivers number three, four to five tight end their
Speaker 2: left tackle, their number two, number three corner, their number
Speaker 2: one defensive end, their number one, their number two kicker,
Speaker 2: dealt with all that Lion's dealing with injuries right now,
Speaker 2: and be like I'm in it's a shame. Seasons probably
Speaker 2: over for them, and we are we are having this
Speaker 2: discussion when every other quarterback demonse that is in the
Speaker 2: discussion their best season of their career cumulatively from individual
Speaker 2: and team success. Put them together and make it a
Speaker 2: chart of how you want to weigh it. Every other
Speaker 2: quarterback we're discussing Alan Lamar Burrow, those guys, the best
Speaker 2: season of their individual careers would be the worst season
Speaker 2: of Patrick's. I'm gonna say it again, every other quarterback
Speaker 2: in this What is the best season of Josh Allen's career?
Speaker 2: This right now we might be in the midst of it. Statistically,
Speaker 2: we are in the midst of it, but we don't
Speaker 2: have the full picture of it yet. What would it
Speaker 2: would be? What twenty twenty Okay, getting blown out in
Speaker 2: the AFC Championship Game and coming third in MVP voting. Yeah,
Speaker 2: that would be horrifying. That'd be the worst season of
Speaker 2: Patrick's career, the worst. What's the best season of Lamar's career.
Speaker 2: It's actually his first year as a starter or this year,
Speaker 2: but again, we gotta wait and see how this year
Speaker 2: plays all out was first year as a starter, going
Speaker 2: fourteen and two, winning the MVP and losing your first
Speaker 2: playoff game and playing terribly in it, well that would
Speaker 2: be heart like horrifying. And so I just think that
Speaker 2: it is a sad state of sports media affairs when
Speaker 2: folks can be so loud wrong all of last year,
Speaker 2: try to a hone for it in February and then
Speaker 2: just be like, ah, the audience isn't paying that close
Speaker 2: of attention. I'll just do it again. So I know,
Speaker 2: I said I wanted to go fast in staid. I
Speaker 2: spend twenty minutes on the a's, but I mean on
Speaker 2: the first topic. But you can ask me the follow
Speaker 2: up here and we can talk a little bit more
Speaker 2: about the one seed stuff.
Speaker 3: So Buffalo gets New England two times to end up
Speaker 3: the year. Do you think that they could potentially lock
Speaker 3: up the one seed with those easy games? And the
Speaker 3: Chiefs have in their sleep.
Speaker 2: So listen, here's the deal. Let's just assume Buffalo goes
Speaker 2: three and zero. If Buffalo loses once then their base
Speaker 2: probably cooked. If Buffalo loses once, then they would need
Speaker 2: the Chiefs to go zero and three the rest of
Speaker 2: the way, but to be the one. But let's assume
Speaker 2: Buffalo go. If they go New England Jets New England,
Speaker 2: Let's just assume Buffalo runs the table. Right, they would
Speaker 2: need Kansas City to lose twice. Kansas City's not gonna
Speaker 2: lose twice. And I believe that if Patrick doesn't play
Speaker 2: on Saturday, I think that that is a great Chris
Speaker 2: Jones activate moment against that Texans offensive line. And this
Speaker 2: is the other thing I'm gonna and they could theoretically,
Speaker 2: I mean, Vegas thinks Mahomes isn't gonna play, and yes
Speaker 2: the Texans are the favorites, but it's a two point line.
Speaker 2: It's not quite a coin flip, but it's very very close.
Speaker 2: I did not love at all how Houston played this week.
Speaker 2: I thought Houston's game this week was not encouraging, and
Speaker 2: I thought Stroud was against Miami. I thought Stroud once again,
Speaker 2: like I mean, through the ball twenty six times for
Speaker 2: one hundred and thirty yards. It was kind of an
Speaker 2: awkward game for him. So I think Houston can get
Speaker 2: got and I just don't believe Kansas City is losing twice.
Speaker 2: There also is a weird potential. I'm not saying this
Speaker 2: is gonna happen, but there is a odd possibility that Denver.
Speaker 2: If Denver beat Cincinnati in a week, they could go
Speaker 2: into Week eighteen locked into their spot, and would Denver
Speaker 2: be like, we're just gonna give ourselves a bye week
Speaker 2: and rest people. In that phot everybody thought the Chiefs
Speaker 2: might be resting people and that would help Denver in
Speaker 2: that Week eighteen game. I wonder if that could go
Speaker 2: the other way. But this is why all those close
Speaker 2: wins and everything matters, because, yeah, if the Chiefs only
Speaker 2: had a one game cushion, which would really be a
Speaker 2: half game cushion because they lost head to head to
Speaker 2: Buffalo and Mahomes just suffered this ankle injury, then you're nervous.
Speaker 2: Then it's like, man, if you think Buffalo's going three
Speaker 2: and oh, you also have to go three and oh
Speaker 2: or you lose the bye week. And I don't care
Speaker 2: nearly as much about home field advantage as I do
Speaker 2: the bye week. But they're thirteen to one and Buffalo's
Speaker 2: ten and three and oh, No, I'm sorry. That couldn't
Speaker 2: be right. Buffalo's eleven and three. Chiefs are thirteen and
Speaker 2: one and Buffalo's eleven and three, so they have a
Speaker 2: game to play with. So no, I'm not as concerned.
Speaker 2: All right, let's move on to the next topic.
Speaker 3: So the injury. The injuries have been stacking up for
Speaker 3: the Lions heavily on that defensive side. But now David
Speaker 3: mccoverery's down and he's out for the rest of the season.
Speaker 3: Most likely, Dan Campbell went for that gutsy on sidekick
Speaker 3: and a lot of people were not agreeing with that.
Speaker 3: Do you think that they officially peaked too early? They're
Speaker 3: obviously still a dangerous team.
Speaker 2: I don't know how dangerous they are with these defensive injuries,
Speaker 2: and I think they listen, They've allowed seventy nine points
Speaker 2: the last two weeks. Buffalo's actually allowed eighty six the
Speaker 2: last two weeks. It's an underrated story for a team
Speaker 2: that everyone's just handing the Lombardi two. But that's fine.
Speaker 2: Both Buffalo and Detroit each of the last two weeks
Speaker 2: have both allowed more points than the Chiefs have allowed
Speaker 2: in any game one game for get back to back
Speaker 2: in the last two years. But again they've earned a
Speaker 2: lot more benefit of the doubt than the two time
Speaker 2: defending champs for the best record in football. But listen,
Speaker 2: I want to talk to Troit's injuries that I want
Speaker 2: to talk Dan Campbell. Detroit's injuries are so clustered defensively
Speaker 2: and so devastating that I think they're in real trouble.
Speaker 2: And here's the problem, demanse. It is, it looked like
Speaker 2: the Lions sailing to the one seat right now, all
Speaker 2: of a sudden, it is so on the board that
Speaker 2: they fall to either the two or Minnesota catches them,
Speaker 2: which means they fall to the five. Minnesota, Philly and
Speaker 2: Detroit are all twelve and two. Minnesota gets Detroit week eighteen,
Speaker 2: so Minnesota technically controls its own destiny for the one seed.
Speaker 2: Problem for Detroit is if Minnesota catches them, they fall
Speaker 2: to the five. You fall to the five, what's your
Speaker 2: first playoff game? Either at Tampa who already beat you
Speaker 2: this year or at the Rams who played you overtime
Speaker 2: this year. That's not great. You fall to just the
Speaker 2: two seed. Who do you get? Probably Washington? I think
Speaker 2: you would beat Washington, but maybe Green Bay. Green Bay
Speaker 2: who you've beaten twice, but we just saw play you
Speaker 2: thirty four to thirty one to the final moment. It
Speaker 2: is very on the board. Detroit goes from ten fourteen
Speaker 2: days ago, Oh my god, Detroit's the favorite to win
Speaker 2: the super Bowl for the first time in franchise history,
Speaker 2: to one and done in the playoffs. Football is a
Speaker 2: cruel game, man to cruel and you're by the way.
Speaker 2: Like Cincinnati had a nice run back to back conference
Speaker 2: title games with the super Bowl mixed in last year,
Speaker 2: injuries killed them. This year they're just not good. San
Speaker 2: Francisco had a hell of a run right five years,
Speaker 2: four NFC title games, two Super Bowl appearances. They're cooked
Speaker 2: for the year. Philly is in the midst of an
Speaker 2: excellent run. With that said, win a super Bowl, tear
Speaker 2: it down, build it back up, make another Super Bowl
Speaker 2: melt down at the end of the year, recover this year.
Speaker 2: The Buffalo has not had the fall apart. But Buffalo,
Speaker 2: also of those teams, is the one to never actually
Speaker 2: break through and get to the super Bowl and then
Speaker 2: then of course again started being obnoxious. There's the team
Speaker 2: that's been to four of the last six super Bowls
Speaker 2: and six of the last six final fours. Uh now
Speaker 2: to Dan Campbell, the onside kick was an absurdity and
Speaker 2: did you how did you feel about it? Demanse down
Speaker 2: ten twelve minutes left.
Speaker 3: No, I think there you probably could have kicked it off.
Speaker 3: I talked to it, I talked to the producers about it,
Speaker 3: and it's just I think it's a seven percent chance
Speaker 3: of you were covering an on side kick. So it's
Speaker 3: just basically saying that you don't trust the defense eight
Speaker 3: percent to stop Josh Allen in the Bills. And that
Speaker 3: makes fun of sense. It's like, where where's your hope at?
Speaker 3: What do you think is more likely to come out?
Speaker 3: And he thought that the on side kick was more
Speaker 3: likely to get them to win.
Speaker 2: And it's problematic for two reasons. One is, here were
Speaker 2: the possessions the Bills had leading up to the on
Speaker 2: side kick? The three possessions leading.
Speaker 3: Up to it.
Speaker 2: Okay, we're the question is were the Bills just marching
Speaker 2: up and down the field every possession and the answers
Speaker 2: actually know they weren't. The possessions were Detroit forced the
Speaker 2: one punt all game? They forced the next possession, Buffalo
Speaker 2: scored a touchdown, but that drive started on Detroit's twenty
Speaker 2: six because of a Detroit fumble, so that's not We
Speaker 2: don't know if they would have stopped them on a
Speaker 2: full field. They started in the twenty six and the
Speaker 2: next possession Buffalo kicked a field goal, so it had
Speaker 2: gone punt twenty six yard touchdown drive field goal. So
Speaker 2: you actually had a chance of stopping them. But the
Speaker 2: point you made, Demanse's, to me the more important one.
Speaker 2: Dan cam can no longer sell. I believe, in my defense,
Speaker 2: two weeks in a row he has done wildly irrational things,
Speaker 2: purely because he is telling the world and those players. No,
Speaker 2: I don't trust you at all. Can you stop Jordan
Speaker 2: Love for thirty seconds? So we just kicked this field
Speaker 2: going fourth down? No, I don't think you can.
Speaker 3: Can you get up primary guys? You know, he's got
Speaker 3: a bunch of the injuries, and like maybe like that
Speaker 3: feeds into it.
Speaker 2: Of course that feeds into it. But my point is
Speaker 2: those are his primary guys now. Now, those are the
Speaker 2: guys now he's got to go to war with. And again,
Speaker 2: this is a terrible analogy, just awful, but I'm just
Speaker 2: gonna use it as he doesn't won't even really makes sense.
Speaker 2: But if it's like, hey, uh, here's the deal, guys, Nick,
Speaker 2: you can either we've got a cash bonus for the
Speaker 2: pod coming. Either you answer ten consecutive trivia questions correct
Speaker 2: or demands, gets one right, and I'm like, give give
Speaker 2: me the questions. And then next week they give us
Speaker 2: the same thing, and I'm like it, give me the questions.
Speaker 2: But then you and I are about to enter a
Speaker 2: single elimination uh trivia playoffs, And I'm like, don't worry. Man,
Speaker 2: you and me were a team, you'd be like, man,
Speaker 2: you don't trust me, Like what are you talking about?
Speaker 3: Like you know?
Speaker 2: And so it's okay, thanks, I'm glad. It was a
Speaker 2: kind of a weird one, but like it's it is. So.
Speaker 2: I really respect Dan Campbell and I think he is
Speaker 2: way more good than bad for the Lions. I don't
Speaker 2: even think that's a question. But we're seeing some creaks
Speaker 2: and the thing I can't.
Speaker 3: He gets very like very gritty. I don't know falls
Speaker 3: into the to the whole lore of it.
Speaker 2: I don't know how to explain it does, but sometimes
Speaker 2: you need Sometimes discretion is the better part of valor.
Speaker 2: But also watching this Lions team just get brutalized by injuries.
Speaker 2: It made me think of what he said to them,
Speaker 2: what he said to the at the podium after the
Speaker 2: NFC championship game. They kind of blew last year when
Speaker 2: he was like, yeah, I told the guys we may
Speaker 2: never be back here. This might have been our best chance.
Speaker 2: He said that to the media, and it was like,
Speaker 2: really stunning. He was just being honest. He was like, yeah,
Speaker 2: I told the guys, like it's really hard, this might
Speaker 2: have been our best chance. Hopefully that motivates them, you know,
Speaker 2: over the summer. But it was true. And this is
Speaker 2: why Man Lions looked like the best team in football
Speaker 2: three weeks ago. Now they're in a three way tie
Speaker 2: atop their conference and the injuries are just absolutely devastating.
Speaker 2: All right.
Speaker 3: Next, So the Eagles won aerially. Aerially gets Pittsburgh, and
Speaker 3: y know, Jalen Hurts took like maybe a victory lap
Speaker 3: on the podium. Seems like it might have annoyed you
Speaker 3: a little bit, though, what's your what's your gripe here?
Speaker 3: All right?
Speaker 2: So Jalen Hurts played great, by the way, past the game,
Speaker 2: played great, great win for them. Uh we were by
Speaker 2: the way, good job by us not falling it last
Speaker 2: week into the oh Man Tomlin getting all those points
Speaker 2: trap because non conference game, different spot. We understood that Philly,
Speaker 2: that Pittsburgh's game of the year is next week or
Speaker 2: this week against Baltimore. They win that game, they win
Speaker 2: the division. So you know, different circumstance. By the way, again,
Speaker 2: sorry to bring up the Chiefs again. Sneaky potential, slight
Speaker 2: benefit of this brutal three games in ten days stretch.
Speaker 2: The Chiefs have a real chance of playing consecutive games,
Speaker 2: maybe three in a row, depending on what happens with Denver. Well, well,
Speaker 2: it wouldn't just let me just go consecutive games, consecutive
Speaker 2: games against teams that the previous week clinched their division.
Speaker 2: This week, Houston clinched the South, So I wonder how
Speaker 2: that impacts them for this game on Saturday. And if
Speaker 2: the Steelers win on Saturday, they clinched the North. How
Speaker 2: does that impact them for the game on Wednesday. But
Speaker 2: let me set that aside. Jalen hurts, So, Jalen Hurts
Speaker 2: plays great, they win, and he says smugly. So that's
Speaker 2: what y'all wanted to see.
Speaker 3: Right.
Speaker 2: As if the media started this buddy. Here is the
Speaker 2: order of operations. The Philadelphia Eagles win their ninth straight
Speaker 2: game to get to eleven and two. Sakuon Barkley is
Speaker 2: the toast of the town. Might win MVP from the
Speaker 2: running back position. Seems like the defense is elite, seems
Speaker 2: like all's good. Media shows up in the locker room
Speaker 2: after AJ Brown, who was visibly pissed on the sidelines,
Speaker 2: They ask him about it. AJ Brown, who is not
Speaker 2: in the media, says, hey, Aj, what do you need
Speaker 2: to work on? Passing? Makes it vote? He seems angry
Speaker 2: and pissed. The next day, the longest tenured Eagle goes
Speaker 2: on the radio and says, yeah, man, AJ's super pissed.
Speaker 2: Probably better to keep that in house. And it's just
Speaker 2: such a shame because he and Jalen used to be friends.
Speaker 2: That's what happened. This was not a media creation. This
Speaker 2: was your star wide receiver and your defense team leader creation.
Speaker 2: And so for him to then come out and be like,
Speaker 2: all right, you guys demanded it, So we gave it
Speaker 2: to you. Your guys demanded it, And by the here's
Speaker 2: the thing. And even in a win, the Eagles can't
Speaker 2: stay out of their own media way, because even in
Speaker 2: a win, you got Siriani and the defensive line coach
Speaker 2: going belly to belly yelling at each other. Big Dom
Speaker 2: is sitting there like, what am I supposed to do? That?
Speaker 2: Dude's actually bigger than me, Like I, this is not
Speaker 2: what I'm equipped for, and so I just I can't.
Speaker 2: I mean, it's just unfathomable. The like I told you, So,
Speaker 2: now here's the thing, man, Maybe here is the thing
Speaker 2: to win the super Bowl. That is what we need
Speaker 2: to see in the Super Bowl. You are going to
Speaker 2: be playing if you get there, either the Kansas City
Speaker 2: Chiefs or the Buffalo Bills, or I'll be nice to
Speaker 2: demand and include the Baltimore Ravens.
Speaker 3: Appreciate it.
Speaker 2: If you're playing one of those three teams, you're gonna
Speaker 2: have to be able to win through the air. You're
Speaker 2: not gonna be able to ground and pound your way
Speaker 2: to a win in that game. So, yes, that is
Speaker 2: what people needed to see, but we weren't demanding it.
Speaker 2: Your teammates were also. I will say this, shout out
Speaker 2: to Jail and Hurts for reminding of America what real
Speaker 2: jewelry can look like. Not some of this, not not
Speaker 2: not not some of this. Oh man, I I I
Speaker 2: got this on loan and I spent again. I'm gonna
Speaker 2: say a big amount of money, but not you know, I,
Speaker 2: Oh I got this this sweet pendant for eight grand
Speaker 2: No no, no, that's that right there. That was at
Speaker 2: least a six figure medallion. And it looked like it
Speaker 2: and I respect it. Like there there is uh Sometimes
Speaker 2: you think like, oh man, like how much money do
Speaker 2: the ballplayers have? And the answer is the most like
Speaker 2: whenever there's a question about in like kind of like
Speaker 2: I don't want tosarily say hip hop culture, but kind
Speaker 2: of is like urban hip hop athlete culture. In that culture,
Speaker 2: it's a lot of musicians that have jewelry. It's not
Speaker 2: ballplayer jewelry. And by the way, Jalen hurts, the last
Speaker 2: thing he wanted was for an NBA player to walk
Speaker 2: into that press conference because then all it's like, oh man,
Speaker 2: you got that guaranteed, you got that fully guaranteed jewelry.
Speaker 2: And so I listen, Jalen looked great and played great,
Speaker 2: and I give him credit, But that hole, that's what
Speaker 2: you wanted to see. The grass is green where you
Speaker 2: water it well, then put a little fertilizer on the
Speaker 2: passing game then fella, because that was a concern. Quick
Speaker 2: break right back, What's right? Welcome back in What's right
Speaker 2: with Nick? Right? Uh? So we got a bunch still
Speaker 2: to do today, and I want to give you guys
Speaker 2: an update if we can on uh poker w s
Speaker 2: op paradigse at the Bahamas. So we got a clip
Speaker 2: we can play and then I'll tell you guys what
Speaker 2: I was doing. Go ahead and roll the clip. The
Speaker 2: dream would be to win this thing, yes, but I don't.
Speaker 2: It takes a while, and that's really the only reason
Speaker 2: I couldn't win. It is the time, the time, and
Speaker 2: so given the time constraints, the second dream is to
Speaker 2: commentate it. So this what do you laugh about? Tom's Yeah,
Speaker 2: I could just have the time, the time. I mean,
Speaker 2: it is six million for first place. Shout out, so
Speaker 2: little poker stuff here quickly. So the World Series of
Speaker 2: Poker is in not so much of a cold war,
Speaker 2: kind of a hot war with these other poker entities,
Speaker 2: and they decided they were going to try to basically
Speaker 2: steal the December Poker Festival corner from their competitors. And
Speaker 2: they have this massive World Series of Poker Paradise event
Speaker 2: at Atlantis and the Bahamas that this year had a
Speaker 2: twenty five well they had a half a million dollar
Speaker 2: invitational buy in, multiple one hundred thousand dollars buy ins
Speaker 2: for like the super pros or the super rich business people,
Speaker 2: but they also had a twenty five thousand dollars buy
Speaker 2: in super main event with a fifty five zero million
Speaker 2: dollars guaranteed total prize pool, the biggest in the history
Speaker 2: of poker as far as a guarantee. And what that
Speaker 2: guarantee means is, so if it's twenty five thousand to
Speaker 2: enter and you're guaranteeing there'll be fifty million in the
Speaker 2: prize pool, they needed two thousand entries. They needed two
Speaker 2: thousand people to put up twenty five grand to play,
Speaker 2: or enough people to rebuy, meaning they bust out and
Speaker 2: then put another twenty five thousand in. I met a
Speaker 2: guy there who fired six bullets in it. One hundred
Speaker 2: and fifty grand in this thing, and it really and
Speaker 2: if not, they got to put the money up themselves.
Speaker 2: And they didn't get to two thousand, but my god,
Speaker 2: they got close. I think they got to one nine
Speaker 2: hundred and eighty seven something around there. So they came
Speaker 2: like fifteen to twenty people short, so they almost hit
Speaker 2: it without an overlay. There still was a slight overlay,
Speaker 2: And I did commentary for it on Saturday, and I
Speaker 2: think I'm gonna be doing more and more of the
Speaker 2: World Series of Poker, and it is like my favorite thing.
Speaker 2: And I'm gonna tell you this. It is. I've said
Speaker 2: this four of all, say it again. Nothing gives me
Speaker 2: more of like a childlike thrill, like when a kid
Speaker 2: meets their favorite athlete, than when these professional poker players
Speaker 2: are like I don't want to say want to meet me,
Speaker 2: because it's not like that, but like aware of me
Speaker 2: from the sports stuff, because so many of these guys
Speaker 2: are also big time sports gamblers. And obviously, where else
Speaker 2: would you go for your sports picks this year other
Speaker 2: than Danny Parkins right here, Danny by the way, thirty
Speaker 2: one and seventeen now against the spread thirty one and seventeen.
Speaker 2: But so I get to see like Chance Cornith, who's
Speaker 2: one of the greatest players in the world. After I
Speaker 2: was done commentating, I played in a pot limit Omaha
Speaker 2: cash game and he just sat with me and we
Speaker 2: chatted and he sweated my cards. I tried to get
Speaker 2: in the game with Jamie Golden Chris Moneymaker, which looked
Speaker 2: like one of the softest PLO games running at the moment.
Speaker 2: But there it was. Nobody was getting up like. It
Speaker 2: was just so much fun. So if you check out
Speaker 2: the wsop's YouTube page for Day one C the middle
Speaker 2: part of Day one, see you can see some of
Speaker 2: my commentary. And I hope that you're doing more of it.
Speaker 2: All right, demon's let's talk a little Travis Hunter before
Speaker 2: we get to our game.
Speaker 3: Uh So, yeah, we wanted to discuss the Travis Hunters
Speaker 3: getting the heisman. You wanted to discuss his girlfriend slash fiance,
Speaker 3: So go ahead and let you go there.
Speaker 2: Have you followed this on the internet? Yes, yeah, it's
Speaker 2: been impossible not just follow right, Yeah, it's just been everywhere.
Speaker 3: Uh.
Speaker 2: I'm gonna have a take that might be might make
Speaker 2: some of my friends in the media mad, might be unpopular.
Speaker 3: Take.
Speaker 2: Uh can everybody leave these two people's personal life alone?
Speaker 3: Please?
Speaker 2: Like? Can we? Like?
Speaker 3: She can?
Speaker 2: Can we? I Travis doesn't yet fully know how to
Speaker 2: be famous, His fiance definitely doesn't know how to be famous.
Speaker 2: Their kids and the number of grown ass men that
Speaker 2: are like, oh, trap, Like I've I've sniffed it out.
Speaker 2: She didn't stand fast enough when he won the award.
Speaker 2: She seems you know to me, me, me, he better
Speaker 2: get a prenup er, he better break. Now's your exit.
Speaker 2: You guys are jerks, man Like, seriously, it's so out
Speaker 2: of line. Here's the thing, I know nothing about this relationship,
Speaker 2: and I'm not gonna act as if every relationship's good
Speaker 2: and that there are you know, obviously it's not leave
Speaker 2: that to his actual people. Like this is this is
Speaker 2: my frustration, and I really am shocked at And this
Speaker 2: is like a real indictment on current social media because
Speaker 2: it was pervasive. You couldn't avoid it and you couldn't
Speaker 2: then like folks feel like, well, it's all over social media,
Speaker 2: so I have to comment on it now. I'm commenting
Speaker 2: on the commentary all of it. Guys. This kid has
Speaker 2: people in his life. He has Dion Sanders in his life.
Speaker 2: He has coaches and mentors and actual friends and actual
Speaker 2: family that can give him actual advice. He doesn't. It's
Speaker 2: not helpful for him or the young woman to have
Speaker 2: her twelve second disposition or offhanded comment analyzed and broken
Speaker 2: down and so again, I don't think I people be
Speaker 2: like Nick. Last week you talked about Belichick's relationship, I
Speaker 2: talking about a seventy two year old man's decision to
Speaker 2: publicly date a twenty four year old to me is
Speaker 2: in bounds. Ripping a civilian who didn't sign up to
Speaker 2: be this level of celebrity just endlessly because of her
Speaker 2: body language or a curt comment during like an autograph
Speaker 2: signing is so just mean. And I, I guess I
Speaker 2: have a hard time not thinking about maybe you'll appreciate this, Demanse.
Speaker 2: I have a hard time not whenever it's young people
Speaker 2: not thinking about your or Diora. If the audience doesn't
Speaker 2: know one of Demonsi's sisters, the nineteen year old your
Speaker 2: or Diora's most spoiled or annoying moments of late teenage
Speaker 2: early you know what I mean? Like whatever you're whatever
Speaker 2: you're like, you know you're AH, wouldn't want that shared
Speaker 2: all over the internet. Kind of look like a jerk
Speaker 2: or entitled or whatever. Those moments and how they are
Speaker 2: not at all indicative of who you are, but indicative
Speaker 2: of adolescents and young adulthood and people having bad days
Speaker 2: and all of it and of all of a sudden
Speaker 2: that were broadcast to the world and now it's like
Speaker 2: you gotta break up with her, and what it does like,
Speaker 2: I just think it's so crummy, and I I just
Speaker 2: think people don't realize or remember what it's like to
Speaker 2: be around that age and how in our own head
Speaker 2: we all are or were. I to this day, I
Speaker 2: have a very vivid memory, very vivid of being in
Speaker 2: my mom's dad, my grandfather. This is maybe like an
Speaker 2: embarrassing story to tell, but I don't mind telling it
Speaker 2: because I maybe maybe people will give people just a
Speaker 2: touch more grace being in my mom's father's hospital room.
Speaker 3: He was.
Speaker 2: Ninety something at the time, and it was he ended
Speaker 2: up living like another I don't know, six months, nine months,
Speaker 2: something like that, but in the moment, it was like, oh,
Speaker 2: he might be dying right now. I remember being in there,
Speaker 2: and I remember my mom understandably being super disappointed is
Speaker 2: probably the right word with me, because I couldn't get
Speaker 2: off my phone because I was in a fight with
Speaker 2: my girlfriend in college and I was so just I
Speaker 2: couldn't see the world past my own nose. And it
Speaker 2: was the thing, like that was the thing that I
Speaker 2: was seeing at the moment, I didn't have the I
Speaker 2: hadn't activated the full levels of like compassion in my
Speaker 2: brain yet to recognize, Amen, whatever's going on with you.
Speaker 2: Your mom is worried her father is dying, like he
Speaker 2: you know what I mean, This could be your last
Speaker 2: moments together, like get out of your own stuff and
Speaker 2: be there for your people. I still look back on
Speaker 2: that and cringe, and I'm so grateful that he didn't
Speaker 2: die that weekend and that I got more time with him.
Speaker 2: But I also look back on it and try to
Speaker 2: get myself grace, Like, eh, I was nineteen, Like it
Speaker 2: was like I couldn't I couldn't see anything bigger than that.
Speaker 2: And so I only even tell that story because everyone's
Speaker 2: dragging this girl, because I couldn't even watch the clip
Speaker 2: because I felt it was so like just everyone's comment
Speaker 2: to her. So meet but evidently like he was doing
Speaker 2: some meet and greet and she said like wait, I
Speaker 2: gotta sit here all day or something like that. I
Speaker 2: don't know, and everyone's like, oh, this selfish whatever man,
Speaker 2: like yeah, do you know any twenty somethings? Yeah, like that,
Speaker 2: that's that's the deal. And so I just I I
Speaker 2: just felt it. And here's the last piece of it
Speaker 2: that I'm gonna say. I also think that people are
Speaker 2: lying when they're like, I'm just trying to help Travis. No,
Speaker 2: you're not, You're just trying to comment on the hot topic.
Speaker 2: If it was really about helping Travis, some of these
Speaker 2: people are big enough, they might have access to Travis.
Speaker 2: Some of our legit famous NFL athletes or former NFL
Speaker 2: athletes whatever, certainly have access to Prime. And if you
Speaker 2: don't trust the people in his circle to know more,
Speaker 2: and so I don't. I didn't like it. I didn't
Speaker 2: like it one bit, and I just I it feels
Speaker 2: to me like there is a part of all of
Speaker 2: us kind of losing our compassion is maybe.
Speaker 3: The right word.
Speaker 2: I'm not sure understanding because the empathy there, you'll thank you,
Speaker 2: because our social media algorithms are really just like really
Speaker 2: sending us this stuff and then it starts to snowball.
Speaker 2: So like, I don't know, I don't know if you
Speaker 2: wanted to say anything demand say, I know you didn't
Speaker 2: know where I was gonna go with that, had no
Speaker 2: idea you saw this in the rundown that I was
Speaker 2: gonna rip her.
Speaker 3: No, no, no, there was no chance. I figured I
Speaker 3: figured you would lean more of that side than in
Speaker 3: that direction. But yeah, I didn't realize we were talking
Speaker 3: about the girlfriend until it got over here. They got
Speaker 3: switched up. But yeah, I mean it's they're obviously kids,
Speaker 3: and I see why you you said, if you can
Speaker 3: be in that state while your mom's dad is literally passing,
Speaker 3: it's like I get it, Like it is hard to
Speaker 3: see pass and I remember I'm like four or five
Speaker 3: years removed.
Speaker 2: Uh yeah, I mean you might. I think she's a
Speaker 2: little older. She might be around I'm not sure exactly
Speaker 2: how old she is. Maybe I should have looked this up.
Speaker 2: Maybe one of the producers can put it in the
Speaker 2: rundown for me. She I think she's a little older
Speaker 2: than Travis, so she might be around your age. But
Speaker 2: like it's all.
Speaker 3: The large media that's criticizing.
Speaker 2: Her certainly didn't and did not sign up for the
Speaker 2: this level of public spotlight. Like that's the other piece
Speaker 2: of it. The other piece of it is, Okay, she's
Speaker 2: twenty three, so I mean, yeah, so around Travis's ades, like,
Speaker 2: it's just thank you, I I have I have different
Speaker 2: X there. I don't know, I've spent enough time on it.
Speaker 2: There's different rules for people that are like I want
Speaker 2: to be in the public eye at all times, and
Speaker 2: you know the I feel like I.
Speaker 3: I have an oh go ahead, no, no, go ahead,
Speaker 3: you have a no, I just I.
Speaker 2: I have. I understand that every time. And I'm not
Speaker 2: acting like I'm some big celebrity, but I'm a public person.
Speaker 2: I understand that every time I go out in public,
Speaker 2: I'm accountable for every action in a way if I
Speaker 2: had you know, the my producer who does a great job, Hubbs,
Speaker 2: isn't you know what I mean? Like Hubbs has a
Speaker 2: big time, important job, but it's a relatively anonymous job.
Speaker 2: And I I you are more accountable in public because
Speaker 2: of this than the other guys you work with behind
Speaker 2: the scenes on the Herd because you have you know,
Speaker 2: you have a public profile to a degree. Travis didn't
Speaker 2: sign up to be a celebrity. He's a celebrity because
Speaker 2: of his own excellence. But he still knows it now.
Speaker 2: The girlfriend like I I had never seen this person
Speaker 2: until two weeks ago, So like you can be like.
Speaker 3: Oh, I'm gonna say one thing. I'm not playing Devil's
Speaker 3: advocate or anything. Yeah, No, she wasn't. She was in
Speaker 3: the Adidas commercial. She isn't like yeah, literally yes commercial.
Speaker 2: No, that's you know what that's actually So that is
Speaker 2: a fair point that she now has signed up at
Speaker 2: some level of public profile and I forget about that.
Speaker 2: That is a good point. I would add two things
Speaker 2: to One is so if she is a public person now,
Speaker 2: it's brand new to her. And the other one is,
Speaker 2: I think this vitriol she's been receiving, she would have
Speaker 2: been receiving either way. Oh and that's the other thing.
Speaker 2: People killed him, now that you mentioned it. People killed
Speaker 2: him and her for that, like what she doing in
Speaker 2: the commercial. Hey man, he loves her like I they
Speaker 2: and again they're they're young kids, and a lot of
Speaker 2: us are like man, look back on are high school
Speaker 2: or college sweethearts. And I, you know, I always felt
Speaker 2: I remember I'm not gonna name names because certain factions
Speaker 2: on the internet will seize on it, but I remember
Speaker 2: watching the Chiefs win their first Super Bowl and everyone
Speaker 2: is celebrating with their you know, parents and wives or whatever,
Speaker 2: and there was a certain player, very high level player,
Speaker 2: who is his whole celebrations with his girlfriend. And I
Speaker 2: remember seeing it and thinking to myself, I'm like, oh, man,
Speaker 2: I really hope that relationship doesn't turn sour at some point,
Speaker 2: because this is an artifact. You know what I mean.
Speaker 2: This is it's the same way I felt when Tiger
Speaker 2: won the Masters, after everything, the last major he's won,
Speaker 2: his kids come and greet him, and his girlfriend does
Speaker 2: two and it's like, oh, it's a risky one, like
Speaker 2: because and now you can get married and divorced, obviously,
Speaker 2: and in both of those instant when I saw it,
Speaker 2: not only did that player and Tiger end up bringing
Speaker 2: up with that person, but it appears to have been
Speaker 2: kind of an ugly aftermath, and I'm like, oh, that
Speaker 2: sucks that, Like you know what I mean. When they
Speaker 2: are playing your Hall of Fame video and show you
Speaker 2: winning your first Super Bowl, it's like the embrace with
Speaker 2: its like iikes, but like that's the And so if
Speaker 2: somebody close to Travis was like, hey, this is your
Speaker 2: first commercial, think about this, you know what I mean, Like,
Speaker 2: way that way exactly what it was, that's legitimate advice, right,
Speaker 2: he doesn't need it from the internet. All right, let's
Speaker 2: quickly play I don't even know what this is bracket.
Speaker 2: I'm not sure what we call it, but go ahead.
Speaker 3: Yeah, So while some teams are slowing down, others are
Speaker 3: getting hot at the right time. History always, history has
Speaker 3: always says that there's that one dark horse team that
Speaker 3: gets hot at the end of the season. So we're
Speaker 3: gonna do a quick bracket on packet.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, we've got seventeen. So this is so we're
Speaker 2: removing the favorites. So the Chiefs, the Eagles, the Bills,
Speaker 2: the Lions are out of there. And then it's like
Speaker 2: the I don't want to play team. So the the
Speaker 2: producers correctly figured out my love for the Rams and
Speaker 2: gave them the one seed in the bye smart you
Speaker 2: could have given you know, put an eight seed in there,
Speaker 2: Like who would the eight seed be right now, I
Speaker 2: don't know, the Chargers or something that's smart. So the
Speaker 2: Rams advanced bottom side of their bracket for playoff dark Horses,
Speaker 2: Packers or Broncos, no question about it, that would be
Speaker 2: the Packers. Packers even maybe better than dark horse Packers. Legit,
Speaker 2: good team. They just have a brutal role ahead of them.
Speaker 2: Like listen, they're ten and four. Jordan's playing well, it's
Speaker 2: just a very very say it, yeah he is, But
Speaker 2: they's just three straight road games to make the Super Bowl.
Speaker 2: That's probably too much for them, but they credit to them.
Speaker 2: Go to the other side of the bracket. This one's
Speaker 2: easy to Bucks or Commanders. Bake show is cooking Commanders,
Speaker 2: you know, not as wildly as they were, But that's
Speaker 2: not easy one. And then this one, Demonsey's not gonna
Speaker 2: like my answer you and I'm gonna do that. I mean,
Speaker 2: I mean, if you're asking me who I would be
Speaker 2: more concerned about the Vikings with that Brian Flores defense
Speaker 2: and Justin Jefferson or the Ravens with that defense and
Speaker 2: Lamar's playoff history, I'd be more concerned with the Vikings.
Speaker 2: That's just my answer people. I mean, left side of
Speaker 2: the bracket, Rams, Packers, that'd be a great playoff game.
Speaker 2: I'd go with Stafford and McVeigh. So I'd say the Rams,
Speaker 2: right side of the bracket, Bucks, Vikings. My heart says
Speaker 2: make show. My head says Vikings. Vikings are legit team man.
Speaker 2: And by the way, we're including them as a dark
Speaker 2: horse even though they they're twelve and two, the second
Speaker 2: best record in the league and my number one is
Speaker 2: the number one seed and our thing playoff dark horse
Speaker 2: the Rams. I think the Rams can get to the
Speaker 2: super Bowl. Oh I didn't tell you. Maybe I did
Speaker 2: tell you. Hold on when the Rams were they started
Speaker 2: one in four? Yeah, I let me let me see
Speaker 2: if I can find the date of this. I have
Speaker 2: to check it was the date.
Speaker 3: I might have said something about it.
Speaker 2: Oh my futures bet. Maybe it'll be maybe it'll be
Speaker 2: on the slip when I made it. So I made
Speaker 2: this bet on October twenty fifth at one am. Okay,
Speaker 2: that's healthy. What am I doing?
Speaker 3: What was so?
Speaker 2: Let me see what the Rams had done that day.
Speaker 2: So one am, October twenty fifth is when I made
Speaker 2: this bet.
Speaker 3: That day day.
Speaker 2: It was that that was a Monday.
Speaker 3: It was a Monday at one am. Yeah. Well wait,
Speaker 3: October October twenty fifthday.
Speaker 2: October twent It was right after the Rams had beaten
Speaker 2: the Vikings. So the Rams had beaten the Vikings on
Speaker 2: Thursday Night football to get to three and four. They
Speaker 2: had started one and four, They got to three and four,
Speaker 2: and I put a not small wager on them at
Speaker 2: seventy five to one to win the Super Bowl.
Speaker 3: To win it?
Speaker 2: Wow, win the super Bowl seventy five to one, when
Speaker 2: they were three and four. Uh yeah, I mean not
Speaker 2: a not a massive I'm gonna text it to demons
Speaker 2: because I I one thing that old age and I
Speaker 2: guess professional success is pollue did is my ability to
Speaker 2: determine what is like what is bet sizing. So I
Speaker 2: just texted to you de Monsey. I would say I
Speaker 2: put a medium sized bet on the Rams at seventy
Speaker 2: five to one to win the Super Bowl. So I
Speaker 2: am bett cooking for me.
Speaker 3: I wait, so can you put bets on teams? Just
Speaker 3: making it there?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 3: Okay, that's what That's what I figured, right.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, listen, are you saying like I don't
Speaker 2: I'm team never hedge. But what I will tell you
Speaker 2: is this, I if the Rams make the Super Bowl
Speaker 2: and are playing the Chiefs, I will be putting something
Speaker 2: bet in on the Chiefs. Yeah, the and you know
Speaker 2: the and I'll have it to where I can't lose.
Speaker 2: That's not really a hedge as much as me going
Speaker 2: with what I want. But if it's like Rams bills,
Speaker 2: I won't cash out. I won't bet the bills. I'll
Speaker 2: just let it right, all right, quick break right back?
Speaker 2: Answer some listener questions. What's right all right, welcome back
Speaker 2: in What's right with Nick? Right DEMONSI, let's answer some
Speaker 2: listener questions quickly.
Speaker 3: Uh forday, how could you explain the Jets going for
Speaker 3: the touchdown instead of a game winning field goal?
Speaker 2: Okay, so I it's because the Jet I saw other
Speaker 2: people asking about this. This was actually not a mistake.
Speaker 2: It was kind of borderline, but it wasn't a mistake.
Speaker 2: It's because the Jags had timeouts. So the Jets get
Speaker 2: they have first in goal from the one with sixty
Speaker 2: eight seconds left, and the Jags have two timeouts. So
Speaker 2: let's just say you do what today is asking you do.
Speaker 2: You kneel down? Okay, timeout you too. You went from
Speaker 2: a minute eight to a minute five. Give them three
Speaker 2: second for a kneel. That one's a long time. You
Speaker 2: kneel down again. Time out, first second down gone. Now
Speaker 2: there's a minute too. Third down, you're kneeling again. Okay.
Speaker 2: Clock runs now, twenty two seconds left. Kick your field goal.
Speaker 2: Kicking off with like eighteen seconds left up three. It's
Speaker 2: not a it's not a great chance you lose, but
Speaker 2: you have to execute the field goal, and you have
Speaker 2: to keep them out of field goal range. If the
Speaker 2: Jags had one or zero timeouts, then obviously you kneel
Speaker 2: and then kick the field goal's time expires. Because they didn't,
Speaker 2: I'm fine with the Jets doing what they did. What
Speaker 2: you're probably supposed to do there, like the maximum value
Speaker 2: proposition there is, if I'm being honest, is kneel once, Yes,
Speaker 2: to make them burn a timeout, then then run the ball,
Speaker 2: and if you get stopped, make them burn another timeout,
Speaker 2: then run it again. And if you get stopped, then
Speaker 2: you're kicking the field goal with twenty seconds. Anyway, that's
Speaker 2: probably the absolute peak. But that what they did was
Speaker 2: not bad. They scored a touchdown immediately and then of
Speaker 2: course Mac Jones threw a pick.
Speaker 3: All right next oohman one two three. If you changed
Speaker 3: nothing else but have the Bills Ravens game this weekend
Speaker 3: instead of September, is Lamar MVP.
Speaker 2: That's such a great question that if Lamar, if they
Speaker 2: just beat the Bills this weekend instead of in September, Yeah,
Speaker 2: how that changes things?
Speaker 3: Nine completion game that he had that was against Houston.
Speaker 3: That was Houston.
Speaker 2: Next week he got blown out by Buffalo by the
Speaker 2: Ravens and then did that against Houston. That's the old
Speaker 2: order of operations thing that really impacts the MVP race.
Speaker 3: All right, next, yep, Eric, Hey, Nick, love the show.
Speaker 3: I'm an NBA fan first, and I feel your NBA
Speaker 3: coverage has decreased. Has the way him mount has, the
Speaker 3: way slash him out you consume the NBA, especially during
Speaker 3: NFL changed in the last few years.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean this year in particular, I'm consuming way
Speaker 2: less during the NFL. I don't think the games are
Speaker 2: quite as fun to watch. I don't the and listen,
Speaker 2: I still love the league and we'll cover it extensively
Speaker 2: post football. But yes, the answer to that is, yeah,
Speaker 2: it has. Let's go to WX WX.
Speaker 3: What does Sirianni have to do for you to acknowledge
Speaker 3: him as a good coach? All he does is win
Speaker 3: far beyond what you expect him to. At some point
Speaker 3: you have to give him. You have to give this
Speaker 3: one up.
Speaker 2: Okay, listen, those are great points and I and I've
Speaker 2: always said wins are a coaching stat The counterpoint to
Speaker 2: that is the Eagles thought of replacing him for Bill
Speaker 2: Belichick this offseason. Three weeks or a month into the year.
Speaker 2: He's screaming at his own fans. Uh when they beat
Speaker 2: the Browns, and even this week there was like this
Speaker 2: nonsense on the sidelines, like they do win and maybe
Speaker 2: he is better than I give him credit for. I
Speaker 2: also don't know exactly what he does. Kellen Moore calls
Speaker 2: the offense. Vic Fangio calls the defense. Seems like AJ
Speaker 2: Brown dictates whether or not they're passing the ball a
Speaker 2: lot or not. He's not even allowed to discipline Jail
Speaker 2: and Carter the position coach won't allow it. I mean,
Speaker 2: it's a weird spot. All right, fun show, good job,
Speaker 2: see you guys on Thursday. I gotta go do Colin
Speaker 2: then do first thing's first. Great job to him, I say,
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