1 00:00:02,520 --> 00:00:09,160 Speaker 1: Bloomberg Audio Studios, podcasts, radio News. 2 00:00:10,000 --> 00:00:13,160 Speaker 2: Good morning, I'm Nathan Hager and I'm Karen Moscow. Here 3 00:00:13,200 --> 00:00:14,920 Speaker 2: are the stories we're following today. 4 00:00:15,120 --> 00:00:18,160 Speaker 3: Karen, let's start with Netflix share surging to an all 5 00:00:18,200 --> 00:00:21,320 Speaker 3: time hight right now through up more than fourteen percent. 6 00:00:21,640 --> 00:00:25,159 Speaker 3: The streaming giant added eighteen point nine million customers in 7 00:00:25,200 --> 00:00:29,360 Speaker 3: the fourth quarter. That's its biggest quarterly subscriber gain in history. 8 00:00:29,680 --> 00:00:31,760 Speaker 3: It was fueled by the return of Squid Game and 9 00:00:31,840 --> 00:00:35,600 Speaker 3: having its first major live sporting events. Ted Sarandos is 10 00:00:35,640 --> 00:00:38,040 Speaker 3: the co chief executive officer of Netflix. 11 00:00:38,560 --> 00:00:42,720 Speaker 4: We are constantly trying to broaden our programming and live 12 00:00:42,760 --> 00:00:45,400 Speaker 4: events is one of those things, and sports is part 13 00:00:45,400 --> 00:00:48,280 Speaker 4: of that live of those live of those live events. 14 00:00:48,560 --> 00:00:50,800 Speaker 4: So when I look at this and say, that's a 15 00:00:50,840 --> 00:00:53,440 Speaker 4: really fantastic thing, but deno do we But it doesn't 16 00:00:53,440 --> 00:00:57,120 Speaker 4: really change the underlying economics of full season Big league 17 00:00:57,120 --> 00:01:01,240 Speaker 4: sports being extremely challenging. If there was a path where 18 00:01:01,280 --> 00:01:04,200 Speaker 4: we could actually make the economics worth work for both 19 00:01:04,319 --> 00:01:06,400 Speaker 4: us and the league, we certainly would explore. 20 00:01:06,640 --> 00:01:09,759 Speaker 3: That's Netflix co CEO Ted Surranders. He says the company's 21 00:01:09,800 --> 00:01:13,399 Speaker 3: raising prices. The most popular US plan is going to 22 00:01:13,480 --> 00:01:16,520 Speaker 3: seventeen dollars ninety nine cents a month. That's an increase 23 00:01:16,520 --> 00:01:20,040 Speaker 3: of two dollars fifty cents. Netflix is also increasing the 24 00:01:20,080 --> 00:01:23,000 Speaker 3: cost of its cheaper advertising supported plan. 25 00:01:23,920 --> 00:01:26,240 Speaker 2: Well, John, Netflix is helping to give a boost to futures. 26 00:01:26,280 --> 00:01:28,720 Speaker 2: This morning, so is Donald Trump's plan to boost the 27 00:01:28,800 --> 00:01:32,520 Speaker 2: US's plans for artificial intelligence. The President has announced a 28 00:01:32,600 --> 00:01:36,240 Speaker 2: US joint venture with soft Bank, open Ai, and Oracle 29 00:01:36,319 --> 00:01:40,280 Speaker 2: to fund the expansion of AI infrastructure. Dubbed Stargate. The 30 00:01:40,319 --> 00:01:44,080 Speaker 2: project will deploy one hundred billion dollars immediately, with plans 31 00:01:44,120 --> 00:01:47,120 Speaker 2: to increase that to at least five hundred billion. Open 32 00:01:47,160 --> 00:01:50,720 Speaker 2: Ai CEO Sam Altman announced the venture next to the President. 33 00:01:51,000 --> 00:01:52,680 Speaker 5: I'm thrilled we get to do this in the United 34 00:01:52,720 --> 00:01:54,760 Speaker 5: States of America. I think this will be the most 35 00:01:54,800 --> 00:01:57,440 Speaker 5: important project of this era. And as Masa said, for 36 00:01:57,480 --> 00:01:59,520 Speaker 5: AGI to get built here, to create one hundreds of 37 00:01:59,560 --> 00:02:02,520 Speaker 5: thousands of jobs, to create a new industry centered here, 38 00:02:02,680 --> 00:02:04,680 Speaker 5: we wouldn't be able to do this without you, mister President, 39 00:02:04,960 --> 00:02:06,720 Speaker 5: and I'm thrilled that we get to I think it'll 40 00:02:06,760 --> 00:02:09,240 Speaker 5: be an exciting project. I think we'll be able to 41 00:02:09,400 --> 00:02:11,760 Speaker 5: do all of the wonderful things that these guys talked about. 42 00:02:11,840 --> 00:02:13,120 Speaker 5: But the fact that we get to do this in 43 00:02:13,160 --> 00:02:16,280 Speaker 5: the United States is I think wonderful. 44 00:02:16,880 --> 00:02:21,480 Speaker 2: Allman's company, open Ai will oversee operations armholdings, Microsoft and 45 00:02:21,560 --> 00:02:25,120 Speaker 2: in Video will provide technology along with Oracle and open Ai. 46 00:02:25,560 --> 00:02:29,880 Speaker 2: The announcement comes after Trump rescinded Biden's sweeping executive order 47 00:02:29,960 --> 00:02:33,280 Speaker 2: on AI. Stocks are moving on this new venture. Shares 48 00:02:33,280 --> 00:02:35,720 Speaker 2: of Oracle are up eight percent, in Video more than 49 00:02:35,760 --> 00:02:39,120 Speaker 2: two point six percent, and Microsoft one and a half percent. 50 00:02:39,480 --> 00:02:42,960 Speaker 2: Soft Bank shares searched ten percent in Asia well. 51 00:02:43,000 --> 00:02:45,960 Speaker 3: The President also said he'd be open to Oracle chairman 52 00:02:46,080 --> 00:02:50,440 Speaker 3: Larry Allison or Elon Musk purchasing TikTok as part of 53 00:02:50,480 --> 00:02:52,320 Speaker 3: a venture with the US government. 54 00:02:53,160 --> 00:02:55,720 Speaker 6: The deal, I think is this, and I've met with 55 00:02:55,960 --> 00:03:00,240 Speaker 6: owners of TikTok, the big owners. It's worthless if it 56 00:03:00,240 --> 00:03:02,320 Speaker 6: doesn't get a permit. It's not like, oh, you can 57 00:03:02,360 --> 00:03:05,160 Speaker 6: take the US. The whole thing is worthless. With a 58 00:03:05,160 --> 00:03:08,160 Speaker 6: permanent it's worth like a trillion dollars. So what I'm 59 00:03:08,160 --> 00:03:11,280 Speaker 6: thinking about saying to somebody is buy it and give 60 00:03:11,360 --> 00:03:14,040 Speaker 6: half to the United States of America half, and we'll 61 00:03:14,040 --> 00:03:16,040 Speaker 6: give you the permit. And they'll have a great partner 62 00:03:16,040 --> 00:03:17,040 Speaker 6: in the United States. 63 00:03:17,280 --> 00:03:20,840 Speaker 3: Well, TikTok temporarily went offline over the weekend. Trump signed 64 00:03:20,880 --> 00:03:23,440 Speaker 3: an executive order on his first day in office to 65 00:03:23,520 --> 00:03:26,480 Speaker 3: extend the deadline for a sale by seventy five days. 66 00:03:26,880 --> 00:03:31,079 Speaker 3: Billionaire Frank mccoort and Shark Tank investor Kevin O'Leary made 67 00:03:31,080 --> 00:03:34,120 Speaker 3: a formal offer to buy TikTok earlier this month. 68 00:03:34,639 --> 00:03:37,520 Speaker 2: Hey Male, John and Davos, Switzerland, business leaders of the 69 00:03:37,520 --> 00:03:40,840 Speaker 2: World Economic Forum, breed this sigh of relief when President 70 00:03:40,840 --> 00:03:43,680 Speaker 2: Trump's first day of his second term ended with talk 71 00:03:43,760 --> 00:03:47,800 Speaker 2: of tariffs rather than any implementation, but they're still concerned 72 00:03:47,840 --> 00:03:51,840 Speaker 2: about the global impact of Trump's plans. IBM vice chairman 73 00:03:51,880 --> 00:03:54,920 Speaker 2: and former top Trump advisor Gary Cohen spoke to Bloomberg 74 00:03:54,920 --> 00:03:57,560 Speaker 2: at the World Economic Forum, saying there will be a 75 00:03:57,600 --> 00:04:00,400 Speaker 2: lot of deliberation before tariffs are put into place. 76 00:04:00,680 --> 00:04:04,200 Speaker 7: Even when I was there eight years ago, there was always. 77 00:04:03,840 --> 00:04:09,200 Speaker 1: A heavy debate on tariffs, on the positives and the 78 00:04:09,240 --> 00:04:13,520 Speaker 1: negatives of tariffs, on the intended consequences and the unintended consequences. 79 00:04:13,720 --> 00:04:17,200 Speaker 7: You know, it's day one of a four year administration. 80 00:04:17,560 --> 00:04:19,919 Speaker 7: You don't have to put tariffs on day one. 81 00:04:19,920 --> 00:04:22,800 Speaker 2: And IBM Vice chairman Gary Cohane also told Bloomberg that 82 00:04:22,839 --> 00:04:26,599 Speaker 2: the corporate community remains optimistic a second Trump term will 83 00:04:26,640 --> 00:04:27,960 Speaker 2: be positive for business. 84 00:04:28,480 --> 00:04:31,640 Speaker 3: And Trump has widened his tariff threats to include China 85 00:04:31,680 --> 00:04:34,640 Speaker 3: and the European Union a day after he saw Canada 86 00:04:34,760 --> 00:04:36,919 Speaker 3: and Mexico. In his sits, we're. 87 00:04:36,760 --> 00:04:40,479 Speaker 6: Talking about a tariff of ten percent on China based 88 00:04:40,520 --> 00:04:42,840 Speaker 6: on the fact that this ending fenton all to Mexico 89 00:04:42,920 --> 00:04:43,479 Speaker 6: in Canada. 90 00:04:44,320 --> 00:04:48,120 Speaker 3: The threats echo comments made throughout Trump's campaign, but the 91 00:04:48,160 --> 00:04:51,120 Speaker 3: only actual action taken so far is a call for 92 00:04:51,200 --> 00:04:56,039 Speaker 3: a review of trade practices that's due April first, potentially 93 00:04:56,040 --> 00:04:59,160 Speaker 3: giving China and others almost ten weeks to avert new 94 00:04:59,240 --> 00:05:02,360 Speaker 3: levies or address his demands well. 95 00:05:02,400 --> 00:05:06,200 Speaker 2: John Trump is also taking steps to cut funding for diversity, equity, 96 00:05:06,200 --> 00:05:08,880 Speaker 2: and inclusion. The White House says those roles will be 97 00:05:08,920 --> 00:05:12,000 Speaker 2: placed on paid leave, and their offices related to those 98 00:05:12,040 --> 00:05:15,240 Speaker 2: programs are being ordered to shut down. In a separate order, 99 00:05:15,279 --> 00:05:19,160 Speaker 2: the administration moved to limit diversity preferences in federal contracting. 100 00:05:19,440 --> 00:05:22,000 Speaker 2: That revokes a civil rights era order that sought to 101 00:05:22,040 --> 00:05:26,400 Speaker 2: reduce racial or gender disparities among government contractors and. 102 00:05:26,400 --> 00:05:29,119 Speaker 3: Camer We're finding out more about some of the people 103 00:05:29,120 --> 00:05:32,120 Speaker 3: that Trump pardoned on day one of his term. One 104 00:05:32,360 --> 00:05:35,840 Speaker 3: is Ross Albrich, the founder of the Silk Road marketplace 105 00:05:36,080 --> 00:05:39,479 Speaker 3: that fulfills a campaign promise he made to core the 106 00:05:39,560 --> 00:05:44,240 Speaker 3: cryptocurrency community. Albrooke was sentenced to life in prison in 107 00:05:44,279 --> 00:05:48,160 Speaker 3: twenty fifteen for running a dark web marketplace where illegal 108 00:05:48,240 --> 00:05:52,159 Speaker 3: drugs and hacker tools were sold using virtual currencies. 109 00:05:52,800 --> 00:05:55,400 Speaker 2: And John federal workers they're not the only ones being 110 00:05:55,520 --> 00:05:58,600 Speaker 2: ordered to return to the office full time. Sources A 111 00:05:58,720 --> 00:06:01,599 Speaker 2: Major League Baseball to its employees to return to the 112 00:06:01,640 --> 00:06:04,240 Speaker 2: office five days a week. The league had been on 113 00:06:04,320 --> 00:06:07,440 Speaker 2: a hybrid policy since the pandemic and. 114 00:06:07,360 --> 00:06:10,520 Speaker 3: Getting back to markets. Karen Indonesia says it's close to 115 00:06:10,560 --> 00:06:13,040 Speaker 3: a deal with Apple over an investment plan that would 116 00:06:13,080 --> 00:06:16,039 Speaker 3: lift a ban on iPhone sixteen sales in the country. 117 00:06:16,440 --> 00:06:19,240 Speaker 3: Southeast Asia's largest country banned the sale of the new 118 00:06:19,279 --> 00:06:22,520 Speaker 3: device back in October, saying Apple had failed to comply 119 00:06:22,600 --> 00:06:26,400 Speaker 3: with domestic manufacturing requirements for smartphones and tablets. 120 00:06:27,320 --> 00:06:30,080 Speaker 2: When we're watching shares have United Airlines take off. They're 121 00:06:30,120 --> 00:06:32,799 Speaker 2: up almost three percent at early trading. John the carrier 122 00:06:32,839 --> 00:06:35,479 Speaker 2: expects a first quarter profit well ahead of Wall Street's 123 00:06:35,560 --> 00:06:39,880 Speaker 2: estimates as it capitalizes on unusually strong demand for premium 124 00:06:39,920 --> 00:06:43,640 Speaker 2: and international travel. It's been a good time for United investors. 125 00:06:43,720 --> 00:06:46,320 Speaker 2: Is stock climb one hundred and thirty five percent last year, 126 00:06:46,520 --> 00:06:48,560 Speaker 2: compared with the twenty three percent gain for the S 127 00:06:48,600 --> 00:06:53,960 Speaker 2: and P five hundred index. Time now for a look 128 00:06:53,960 --> 00:06:55,760 Speaker 2: at some of the other stories making news in New 129 00:06:55,839 --> 00:06:57,680 Speaker 2: York and around the world. And for that we're joined 130 00:06:57,680 --> 00:06:59,640 Speaker 2: by Bloomberg's Michael Barr Michael Good. 131 00:06:59,520 --> 00:07:02,560 Speaker 8: Morning, Morning Care. In twenty two states, including New York, 132 00:07:02,600 --> 00:07:06,040 Speaker 8: New Jersey, and Connecticut, are filing a lawsuit against President 133 00:07:06,080 --> 00:07:10,160 Speaker 8: Trump's executive order that would end birthright citizenship. It's a 134 00:07:10,240 --> 00:07:13,760 Speaker 8: right stated in the fourteenth Amendment. New Jersey Attorney General 135 00:07:14,000 --> 00:07:18,640 Speaker 8: Matt Platkin says Trump's order is unconstitutional and that presidents 136 00:07:18,720 --> 00:07:20,240 Speaker 8: don't have the power to change it. 137 00:07:20,400 --> 00:07:21,240 Speaker 7: They are not kings. 138 00:07:21,400 --> 00:07:24,240 Speaker 9: They do not have the power to unilaterally rewrite the Constitution. 139 00:07:24,320 --> 00:07:27,320 Speaker 9: They do not have the power to unilaterally disreard our laws. 140 00:07:27,680 --> 00:07:29,920 Speaker 9: That's true for Donald Trump, that's true for every president 141 00:07:29,920 --> 00:07:31,720 Speaker 9: that came before him, and every president who will come 142 00:07:31,760 --> 00:07:32,240 Speaker 9: after him. 143 00:07:32,320 --> 00:07:32,560 Speaker 2: A g. 144 00:07:32,680 --> 00:07:36,000 Speaker 8: Platkin says he is confident this order is never going 145 00:07:36,040 --> 00:07:39,400 Speaker 8: to take effect. New York City Mayor Eric Adams has 146 00:07:39,440 --> 00:07:42,520 Speaker 8: some sharp words for the Democratic Party and reiterated his 147 00:07:42,680 --> 00:07:46,760 Speaker 8: claim that he was targeted by federal prosecutors because he 148 00:07:46,800 --> 00:07:50,920 Speaker 8: criticized then President Joe Biden's handling of the migrant influx. 149 00:07:51,240 --> 00:07:53,680 Speaker 8: Mayor Adam spoke with Tucker Carlson. 150 00:07:53,360 --> 00:07:55,400 Speaker 10: Because some people off to say, well, you know, you 151 00:07:55,400 --> 00:07:59,040 Speaker 10: don't sound like a Democrat, and you know you seem 152 00:07:59,080 --> 00:08:01,600 Speaker 10: to have left the party. No, the body left me, 153 00:08:01,840 --> 00:08:04,920 Speaker 10: and it left working class people in our conversations that 154 00:08:04,960 --> 00:08:07,560 Speaker 10: we should be talking about. This are not the issues 155 00:08:08,360 --> 00:08:11,560 Speaker 10: that everyday people that are in power talking about. 156 00:08:11,600 --> 00:08:14,840 Speaker 8: The interview was recorded from Graycia Mansion. Earlier, at his 157 00:08:15,000 --> 00:08:18,480 Speaker 8: news briefing, Adams was asked about cooperating with ICE agents 158 00:08:18,520 --> 00:08:21,800 Speaker 8: if they come to New York City to enforce deportations. 159 00:08:22,120 --> 00:08:25,360 Speaker 10: We want to bring down the anxiety. We want our 160 00:08:25,400 --> 00:08:28,120 Speaker 10: immigrants to know that this is a city immigrants, this 161 00:08:28,160 --> 00:08:31,440 Speaker 10: is a country of immigrants. It's imperative that you go 162 00:08:31,520 --> 00:08:34,520 Speaker 10: to school, use hospital service, to use the police services. 163 00:08:34,559 --> 00:08:36,800 Speaker 10: I went over this over and over again, and I'm 164 00:08:36,800 --> 00:08:38,880 Speaker 10: just not going to keep having the same conversation over 165 00:08:38,920 --> 00:08:39,520 Speaker 10: and over again. 166 00:08:40,000 --> 00:08:44,199 Speaker 8: The Trump administration announced it would allow federal immigration agencies 167 00:08:44,240 --> 00:08:47,679 Speaker 8: to make arrests at schools, churches, and hospitals. A winder 168 00:08:47,720 --> 00:08:50,280 Speaker 8: storm that drop record breaking snow in New Orleans has 169 00:08:50,320 --> 00:08:53,680 Speaker 8: spread into Florida and the Carolinas. Meanwhile, a blast of 170 00:08:53,760 --> 00:08:56,920 Speaker 8: arctic air has also plunged much of the Midwest and 171 00:08:57,040 --> 00:09:00,320 Speaker 8: the Eastern US into a deep freeze. Global News twenty 172 00:09:00,320 --> 00:09:02,720 Speaker 8: four hours a day, and whatever you wanted with Bloomberg 173 00:09:02,760 --> 00:09:05,920 Speaker 8: News Now, I'm Michael Barr, and this is Bloomberg Carroen. 174 00:09:06,400 --> 00:09:12,959 Speaker 2: All right, Michael Barr, thank you time now for the 175 00:09:13,000 --> 00:09:15,680 Speaker 2: Bloomberg Sports Update, brought to you by Tri State OHTI. 176 00:09:15,760 --> 00:09:16,839 Speaker 2: Here's John Stashauer. 177 00:09:16,960 --> 00:09:18,960 Speaker 1: John, good morning, Good morning care. The Knicks had been 178 00:09:19,120 --> 00:09:23,520 Speaker 1: exchanging wins and losses throughout January, no two game winning 179 00:09:23,520 --> 00:09:25,840 Speaker 1: your losing streaks until now. The night after the win 180 00:09:25,920 --> 00:09:28,079 Speaker 1: over Atlanta at the Garden, they went to Brooklyn got 181 00:09:28,080 --> 00:09:31,040 Speaker 1: by the Nets ninety nine ninety five Karl Anthony Towns 182 00:09:31,280 --> 00:09:34,080 Speaker 1: twenty five points, sixteen rebounds. Nets have lost nine of 183 00:09:34,120 --> 00:09:37,400 Speaker 1: ten and nine straight versus. The next Lakers beat the 184 00:09:37,440 --> 00:09:40,640 Speaker 1: Wizards by twenty three. The Nuggets beat the Sixers by 185 00:09:40,720 --> 00:09:43,040 Speaker 1: thirty five. The Rangers an easy win at the Garden 186 00:09:43,080 --> 00:09:46,720 Speaker 1: five nothing over Ottawa five different goal scorers, including power 187 00:09:46,760 --> 00:09:49,000 Speaker 1: play tallies less than the minute apart in the third period, 188 00:09:49,040 --> 00:09:52,040 Speaker 1: first Art Timmy Paner and then Will Cooley. Capital's fifth 189 00:09:52,040 --> 00:09:54,520 Speaker 1: Stray win three two at Edmonton's Seaton Hall, lost to 190 00:09:54,640 --> 00:09:57,640 Speaker 1: Marquette Pirates held to one and seven in the Big East. 191 00:09:57,720 --> 00:09:59,280 Speaker 8: Three new members of the Baseball Hall of Fame. 192 00:09:59,320 --> 00:10:02,360 Speaker 1: They all played in New York, including CC Sabathia, the 193 00:10:02,440 --> 00:10:05,439 Speaker 1: Yankee ace for eleven seasons starting in two thousand and 194 00:10:05,559 --> 00:10:07,600 Speaker 1: nine when he played a big role on the yanks 195 00:10:07,720 --> 00:10:10,960 Speaker 1: last championship team. Sabathia goes in first year on the 196 00:10:11,000 --> 00:10:13,439 Speaker 1: ballot and on the MLB Network talked about what he 197 00:10:13,520 --> 00:10:15,160 Speaker 1: was proud to do on the mound. 198 00:10:15,559 --> 00:10:18,040 Speaker 11: Oh, that was something that was important to me, was 199 00:10:18,040 --> 00:10:20,760 Speaker 11: to be able to be available, you know, and take 200 00:10:20,800 --> 00:10:22,720 Speaker 11: the balls as many times as possible during the season. 201 00:10:22,800 --> 00:10:25,320 Speaker 11: And you know, I wanted my guys in the clubhouse 202 00:10:25,360 --> 00:10:27,160 Speaker 11: so we're in the locker room, to feel like every 203 00:10:27,160 --> 00:10:28,600 Speaker 11: time I went out there every fifth day, that we 204 00:10:28,640 --> 00:10:31,600 Speaker 11: had a chance to win. And you know, if I 205 00:10:31,720 --> 00:10:33,040 Speaker 11: was available, I was going to take the. 206 00:10:32,960 --> 00:10:35,320 Speaker 1: Ball CEC got eighty seven percent of the vote. His 207 00:10:35,360 --> 00:10:38,800 Speaker 1: one time Yankee teammate Etro Suzuki got ninety nine all 208 00:10:38,800 --> 00:10:41,400 Speaker 1: but one vote, so Mariano Rivera is still the only 209 00:10:41,440 --> 00:10:44,240 Speaker 1: one to go in unanimously. Hetro, of course, a hit 210 00:10:44,400 --> 00:10:47,000 Speaker 1: machine both in Japan and the Majors, mostly with Seattle. 211 00:10:47,000 --> 00:10:50,120 Speaker 1: Reliever Billy Wagner got in in his tenth and final 212 00:10:50,200 --> 00:10:52,280 Speaker 1: year on the ballot. His best seasons were in Houston, 213 00:10:52,280 --> 00:10:54,319 Speaker 1: but he also spent three years with the Mets as 214 00:10:54,360 --> 00:10:56,920 Speaker 1: Aaron Glenn yesterday had his second interview for the Jets 215 00:10:57,000 --> 00:10:59,079 Speaker 1: coaching job. There was an ESPN report that he was 216 00:10:59,120 --> 00:11:01,880 Speaker 1: about to get higher. Didn't happen, and Glenn is now 217 00:11:01,880 --> 00:11:04,000 Speaker 1: said to be heading to New Orleans for a second 218 00:11:04,000 --> 00:11:07,880 Speaker 1: interview with the Saints. John Stashew with Bloomberg Sports Karen John. 219 00:11:10,120 --> 00:11:14,160 Speaker 12: Coast to coast on Bloomberg Radio, nationwide on Sirius Exam, 220 00:11:14,440 --> 00:11:17,280 Speaker 12: and around the world on Bloomberg dot Com and the 221 00:11:17,320 --> 00:11:18,520 Speaker 12: Bloomberg Business app. 222 00:11:18,800 --> 00:11:20,960 Speaker 7: This is Bloomberg Daybreak. 223 00:11:20,960 --> 00:11:23,520 Speaker 3: And we continue our coverage of the World Economic Forum 224 00:11:23,559 --> 00:11:26,200 Speaker 3: from Davos this morning. In a conversation with Bank of 225 00:11:26,240 --> 00:11:30,000 Speaker 3: America CEO Brian boynihan. He sat down with our Jonathan 226 00:11:30,000 --> 00:11:33,120 Speaker 3: Ferrell and Lisa Brammle with some Bloomberg surveil. It's discussing 227 00:11:33,120 --> 00:11:37,280 Speaker 3: how AI's impacting business a succession plan at the bank, 228 00:11:37,679 --> 00:11:40,720 Speaker 3: and they start with the outlook for deals in a 229 00:11:40,880 --> 00:11:42,640 Speaker 3: second Trump term. Let's listen in. 230 00:11:43,240 --> 00:11:46,840 Speaker 13: What you're hearing is enthusiasm for an investment banking side 231 00:11:46,840 --> 00:11:49,480 Speaker 13: of particularly transactions right for long time, for the last 232 00:11:49,800 --> 00:11:52,320 Speaker 13: couple of years, it's been hard to get a transaction through. 233 00:11:52,360 --> 00:11:54,959 Speaker 13: And what stops the seller from selling or buyer from 234 00:11:54,960 --> 00:11:57,480 Speaker 13: buying is this thing is delayed. I'm exposed and so 235 00:11:57,600 --> 00:11:59,320 Speaker 13: what they'll do is to push it through. So there's 236 00:11:59,320 --> 00:12:02,120 Speaker 13: a lot of enthusiasm that they'll be better growth United States, 237 00:12:02,200 --> 00:12:04,520 Speaker 13: a lot of enthusiasm by the bankers saying these deals 238 00:12:04,559 --> 00:12:06,640 Speaker 13: can get done, so I can go have this future conversation. 239 00:12:06,960 --> 00:12:09,439 Speaker 13: It's just not another idea that goes through the system 240 00:12:09,480 --> 00:12:11,480 Speaker 13: and everybody says that's a great idea, but it not 241 00:12:11,559 --> 00:12:13,120 Speaker 13: can be a great idea, let's go do it, or 242 00:12:13,559 --> 00:12:14,840 Speaker 13: a great idea, I don't want to do it. But 243 00:12:14,880 --> 00:12:16,800 Speaker 13: it's a more of a substance space than it is, 244 00:12:17,080 --> 00:12:19,080 Speaker 13: more of a worry about the environment around us. 245 00:12:19,080 --> 00:12:21,360 Speaker 12: Are you basically saying that there's more enthusiasm, that there 246 00:12:21,400 --> 00:12:23,440 Speaker 12: is conviction and will to actually get stuff done. 247 00:12:23,559 --> 00:12:25,880 Speaker 13: Yeah, I think you saw some deals getting announced and 248 00:12:25,880 --> 00:12:28,360 Speaker 13: you'll see more deals getting announced in our sector. In banking, 249 00:12:28,440 --> 00:12:31,880 Speaker 13: especially in the United States, the consolidation is still far 250 00:12:31,920 --> 00:12:32,920 Speaker 13: away from being. 251 00:12:34,640 --> 00:12:35,040 Speaker 7: Done. 252 00:12:35,320 --> 00:12:37,360 Speaker 13: They'll always be big banks or always be small banks, 253 00:12:37,400 --> 00:12:39,319 Speaker 13: but you'll let people make a decision what they want 254 00:12:39,320 --> 00:12:39,400 Speaker 13: to do. 255 00:12:39,440 --> 00:12:41,160 Speaker 7: And there haven't been a lot of bank deals done. 256 00:12:41,320 --> 00:12:43,720 Speaker 13: Bank to bank deals we can't do them, it's not legal, 257 00:12:43,760 --> 00:12:46,480 Speaker 13: but as investment banking, we can help other people do them, 258 00:12:46,520 --> 00:12:48,200 Speaker 13: and it haven't been a lot done because just uncertainly 259 00:12:48,200 --> 00:12:50,720 Speaker 13: you're getting caught in the transaction and having issues. So 260 00:12:50,800 --> 00:12:53,920 Speaker 13: the belief that they should promote the banks consoliding and 261 00:12:53,920 --> 00:12:56,160 Speaker 13: getting more efficient, passing that through the customers, passing it 262 00:12:56,280 --> 00:13:00,560 Speaker 13: through to small businesses, et cetera, is a different change. 263 00:13:00,600 --> 00:13:03,240 Speaker 12: Well, there's the banking sector specifically in some of the 264 00:13:03,320 --> 00:13:06,000 Speaker 12: deregulation and whether some of these mergers and consolidation will 265 00:13:06,040 --> 00:13:08,240 Speaker 12: be a lot, and then there's a broader corporate sector. 266 00:13:08,240 --> 00:13:10,320 Speaker 12: As some of the enthusiasm we've seen and we've heard 267 00:13:10,320 --> 00:13:12,520 Speaker 12: from the cities a head of banking. 268 00:13:12,280 --> 00:13:13,160 Speaker 7: From JP Morgan. 269 00:13:14,440 --> 00:13:17,880 Speaker 12: How much do you see that being maybe a little premature. 270 00:13:18,200 --> 00:13:21,040 Speaker 13: Well, I think you have to divorce a little bit 271 00:13:21,080 --> 00:13:23,800 Speaker 13: some of the fiscal work that has to be done, 272 00:13:23,840 --> 00:13:26,480 Speaker 13: and in coming Treasury Secretary and others have to take 273 00:13:26,600 --> 00:13:28,600 Speaker 13: very seriously this question of how do we manage the 274 00:13:28,640 --> 00:13:31,240 Speaker 13: revenue stream, the expense stream, and the amount of debt 275 00:13:31,320 --> 00:13:31,640 Speaker 13: and get. 276 00:13:31,559 --> 00:13:33,240 Speaker 7: It all to work out that. 277 00:13:33,720 --> 00:13:35,320 Speaker 13: One of the way is that that becomes easier if 278 00:13:35,360 --> 00:13:38,560 Speaker 13: you have more activity and more things going on. So 279 00:13:38,640 --> 00:13:40,640 Speaker 13: I think the enthusiasm you're here from the bankers is 280 00:13:40,679 --> 00:13:45,560 Speaker 13: more Structurally, the belief is that even starting yesterday, you 281 00:13:45,640 --> 00:13:47,640 Speaker 13: don't have you don't. 282 00:13:47,520 --> 00:13:49,160 Speaker 7: Have the constraint that you have, so you can go. 283 00:13:49,480 --> 00:13:53,120 Speaker 13: If there's more that enables more, that's good stuff, But 284 00:13:53,200 --> 00:13:54,520 Speaker 13: right now it'll stop it. 285 00:13:54,480 --> 00:13:56,160 Speaker 7: Going in our wrong direction. And look hard. 286 00:13:56,200 --> 00:13:59,560 Speaker 13: Medium small sized businesses, their biggest complaint was you're in 287 00:13:59,559 --> 00:14:02,320 Speaker 13: my pocket. You're slow me down. I can't get things done. 288 00:14:02,559 --> 00:14:04,280 Speaker 13: I want to permit to do something, it takes forever. 289 00:14:04,320 --> 00:14:07,240 Speaker 13: I want your labor rules. All this stuff was going 290 00:14:07,240 --> 00:14:09,120 Speaker 13: on and they're figuring out their own The same person's 291 00:14:09,200 --> 00:14:11,400 Speaker 13: running the business at nice sittingers say, so, what is 292 00:14:11,440 --> 00:14:14,640 Speaker 13: this new taxation strategy on? So security mean they're just 293 00:14:14,640 --> 00:14:16,640 Speaker 13: saying if you just stop, things will get better. 294 00:14:16,760 --> 00:14:19,320 Speaker 12: We keep hearing about succession plans in different places. 295 00:14:19,640 --> 00:14:20,720 Speaker 5: What's your succession plan? 296 00:14:20,880 --> 00:14:21,840 Speaker 7: But you're trying to throw me out. 297 00:14:22,120 --> 00:14:23,080 Speaker 13: No, no, not at all. 298 00:14:23,200 --> 00:14:25,120 Speaker 5: I'm just wondering because this is something. 299 00:14:24,880 --> 00:14:27,640 Speaker 4: That we. 300 00:14:28,520 --> 00:14:32,680 Speaker 13: Lost questions, the fascination with all this is interesting and 301 00:14:32,800 --> 00:14:34,320 Speaker 13: one just means we're all getting older. 302 00:14:34,360 --> 00:14:37,440 Speaker 7: So Therealty is we run. We run across in our 303 00:14:37,440 --> 00:14:41,120 Speaker 7: company through the top three layers, including for the CEO succession. 304 00:14:41,360 --> 00:14:43,960 Speaker 13: Every six months we go through everything who the media successors, 305 00:14:44,040 --> 00:14:46,640 Speaker 13: for every one of our teammates jobs, and we have 306 00:14:46,680 --> 00:14:48,640 Speaker 13: a slate and we go from a slip because if 307 00:14:48,640 --> 00:14:51,520 Speaker 13: we run a company, people leave for a whole, they retire, 308 00:14:51,880 --> 00:14:54,720 Speaker 13: they get another job, whatever, and you're always filling jobs. 309 00:14:54,720 --> 00:14:56,440 Speaker 13: And so with the way, the board will make a 310 00:14:56,520 --> 00:14:59,520 Speaker 13: choice at some point, I'm not going anywhere unless they 311 00:14:59,600 --> 00:15:00,000 Speaker 13: throw me out. 312 00:15:00,560 --> 00:15:01,240 Speaker 7: They know that. 313 00:15:01,440 --> 00:15:03,520 Speaker 13: But my job, and one of the biggest jobs I have, 314 00:15:03,720 --> 00:15:06,960 Speaker 13: is preparing people for the what it would be like 315 00:15:07,000 --> 00:15:11,480 Speaker 13: to run this company out there, and that's important. So 316 00:15:11,520 --> 00:15:12,920 Speaker 13: we do a lot with our team to get them 317 00:15:12,960 --> 00:15:14,880 Speaker 13: used to experiences and get them to learn more about 318 00:15:15,080 --> 00:15:16,360 Speaker 13: the trade offs you have to make at the top 319 00:15:16,400 --> 00:15:18,040 Speaker 13: of the house, because if you come through a business 320 00:15:18,320 --> 00:15:20,600 Speaker 13: or come through a function, you haven't made those trails. 321 00:15:20,600 --> 00:15:22,840 Speaker 7: That's part of our general strategy. And so we talked 322 00:15:22,840 --> 00:15:23,240 Speaker 7: to our board. 323 00:15:23,280 --> 00:15:25,880 Speaker 13: But you'll never hear us discuss A is in and 324 00:15:25,920 --> 00:15:28,280 Speaker 13: B is That to me, is the worst thing you 325 00:15:28,280 --> 00:15:28,520 Speaker 13: can do. 326 00:15:28,560 --> 00:15:30,280 Speaker 7: I went through that process in the end of two 327 00:15:30,280 --> 00:15:32,200 Speaker 7: thousand and nine. Whether the it's day to day speculation, 328 00:15:32,560 --> 00:15:34,160 Speaker 7: that's not the way to do it. Well, thank you 329 00:15:34,160 --> 00:15:35,560 Speaker 7: for that very much. You'll be the first person. 330 00:15:35,720 --> 00:15:36,320 Speaker 11: Okay, thank you. 331 00:15:36,400 --> 00:15:38,600 Speaker 12: I appreciate that we only have about thirty seconds. You 332 00:15:38,600 --> 00:15:40,560 Speaker 12: said something to us when we were at Bank of 333 00:15:40,600 --> 00:15:44,320 Speaker 12: America that AI would basically keep the staff the same 334 00:15:44,360 --> 00:15:47,280 Speaker 12: size but increase the footprint of business. Do you stand 335 00:15:47,320 --> 00:15:47,600 Speaker 12: by that? 336 00:15:48,080 --> 00:15:51,280 Speaker 13: Yeah, there are two facts I'll give you. One is 337 00:15:51,320 --> 00:15:53,760 Speaker 13: we run the company on the nominal amount of dollars 338 00:15:53,800 --> 00:15:56,920 Speaker 13: of expenses we did ten years ago almost now nominal 339 00:15:57,000 --> 00:15:58,840 Speaker 13: or not not inflation just and we run it on 340 00:15:58,920 --> 00:16:02,240 Speaker 13: thirty thousand less people. That is all digitization and AI 341 00:16:02,520 --> 00:16:04,400 Speaker 13: is an extension of automation. 342 00:16:04,480 --> 00:16:06,400 Speaker 7: Digitization models ET cetera. 343 00:16:06,760 --> 00:16:09,600 Speaker 13: Automating work, taking out work, and automated therefore you don't 344 00:16:09,600 --> 00:16:12,120 Speaker 13: need and I think it keeps going. The idea is, 345 00:16:12,160 --> 00:16:14,640 Speaker 13: if we're good, we'll keep adjusting where the. 346 00:16:14,600 --> 00:16:15,440 Speaker 7: Teammates end up. 347 00:16:15,480 --> 00:16:17,600 Speaker 13: So it might not be the same turn twelve thousand 348 00:16:17,640 --> 00:16:19,880 Speaker 13: people two hundred and thirteen thousand people doing the same 349 00:16:19,880 --> 00:16:21,880 Speaker 13: thing ten years from now. 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