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Speaker 1: I'm Teddy Mellencamp and this is Emily Simpson.

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Speaker 2: And you're listening to Popping Off. Hi, guys, welcome to

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Speaker 2: another episode of Popping Off with myself and Emily Simpson.

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Speaker 2: I'm here to tell you guys.

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Speaker 1: Wait, I didn't even get to say my own name.

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Speaker 2: No, because I'm too excited.

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Speaker 1: Okay, all right, I'll let you go for it, go

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Speaker 1: for it, listen.

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Speaker 3: Because we were so excited to move on to the

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Speaker 3: Secret Wives of Mormon Wives, I can barely even let

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Speaker 3: you say your own name.

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Speaker 1: All right, It's okay, I don't need a name, It's fine.

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Speaker 2: Okay. So before we even get started on recapping the

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Speaker 2: Secret Lives of Mormon Wives cast list, Emily, could you

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Speaker 2: give us a little information on the Church of Jesus

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Speaker 2: Christ dot org article.

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Speaker 1: Okay.

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Speaker 4: First of all, let me just remind everyone because I

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Speaker 4: feel like I need to remind you that Shane is

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Speaker 4: an active member of the LDS Church, but I am not,

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Speaker 4: So I just want to put that out there because

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Speaker 4: I feel like people get confused about that. Secondly, I

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Speaker 4: asked Shane, what is the church's stance on these reality

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Speaker 4: shows that have come out like Salt Lake City Talking

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Speaker 4: about the Mormon religion and now this reality show which

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Speaker 4: actually puts the word Mormon wives into the title, So

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Speaker 4: he looked it up for me, and the LDIS Church

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Speaker 4: actually did issue a statement and it's actually longer than this,

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Speaker 4: but this is just a little breakdown of it. It

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Speaker 4: says the Church of Jesus Christ the Latter day Saints,

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Speaker 4: like other prominent global faith communities, often finds itself the

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Speaker 4: focus of the attention of the entertainment industry. Some portrayals

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Speaker 4: are fair and accurate, but others resort to stereotypes or

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Speaker 4: gross miss representations that are in poor taste and have

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Speaker 4: real life consequences for people of faith. While this is

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Speaker 4: not new, a number of recent productions depict lifestyles and

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Speaker 4: practices blatantly inconsistent with the teachings of the church. The

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Speaker 4: true story of our faith is best seen in the

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Speaker 4: countless lives of those who strive daily to follow our Savior,

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Speaker 4: Jesus Christ. So basically, they're like, don't get your education

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Speaker 4: about LDS directly from these TV shows.

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Speaker 2: Do you think that they didn't say anything about podcasts?

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Speaker 2: So do you think that they're going to be concerned

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Speaker 2: with what we have to say? Here because this is

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Speaker 2: what the actual line says at the beginning of this

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Speaker 2: when entertainment media distorts faith.

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Speaker 1: I don't know.

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Speaker 4: I mean, they obviously can't control what's put out there.

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Speaker 4: I think that you and I, I mean we get

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Speaker 4: being married to Shane, I think it gives the actual

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Speaker 4: and calling themselves active members, and then what someone who

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Speaker 4: actually lives the life and the lifestyle like my husband.

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Speaker 4: But he would say, And so I think it's an

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Speaker 4: interesting take that you and I get to have.

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Speaker 2: I agree, Okay, So I would say one of the

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Speaker 2: most challenging things we're going to have to really get

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Speaker 2: other than pissing off Church of Jesus Christ dot Org,

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Speaker 2: is deciphering which one of these women is who.

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Speaker 4: They do look a lot alike, especially Jesse and DEMI

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Speaker 4: are those Is that the same person?

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Speaker 2: Well, okay, so we've got on our top row, we've

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Speaker 2: got Taylor, We've got Mikayla, We've got Macy. So we've

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Speaker 2: already done an interview with Mikayla and Macy, which you

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Speaker 2: Taylor I will always recognize because she is the hot

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Speaker 4: Well, and Whitney is very distinctive looking. She doesn't look

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Speaker 2: And then we've got Jesse and Demi, who could essentially

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Speaker 2: then we've also got Jennifer Affleck, who I really hope

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Speaker 2: making sure to capitalize on her Affleck last name, which

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Speaker 4: And then this last girl, Leyla. They didn't do a

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Speaker 2: No, there wasn't much with her. And I had to

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Speaker 1: But you had to stop yourself.

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Speaker 2: I had to stop myself. So it's really really good.

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Speaker 2: It starts out. The intro gives an explanation of mom

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Speaker 2: Talk and the sex scandal that rocked the entire community.

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Speaker 2: When Taylor Frankie Paul revealed that the couples of Mom

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Speaker 2: This was also during COVID, so I mean, everybody needed

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Speaker 2: something to talk about other than COVID. The rules of

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Speaker 2: one piercing have a child by the time you're twenty one.

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Speaker 4: I don't believe this is like written doctrine anywhere. I'm

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Speaker 4: gonna ask Shane about this, but I do know that

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Speaker 4: there are guidelines as far as no caffeine and no alcohol.

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Speaker 1: It's the whole concept of your body as a Temple.

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Speaker 4: But I don't think there's anything written anywhere that says

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Speaker 2: Like hold on, I actually I know that we're you know,

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Speaker 2: I'm going to call somebody who is LDS at this

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Speaker 2: I do need to ask about this twenty one thing. Hello. Hey,

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Speaker 2: I know this is totally random. You're on air and

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Speaker 2: I'm not going to use your name, Okay, but I

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Speaker 2: on the Secret Lives of Mormon Wives. Okay, okay, great.

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Speaker 2: Is there anything in the doctrine that says that you

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Speaker 2: definitely not true.

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Speaker 5: Never said anywhere, nothing, and it never says anything that

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Speaker 5: Now there was a rule back in the day, like

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Speaker 2: Okay, thank you so much. We just wanted to clear

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Speaker 2: So Emily's question is, if your body is a temple,

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Speaker 5: It's kind of based off what's the best. They don't

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Speaker 5: So the church has definitely gone away from that. It's

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Speaker 5: that's not how it is. And caffeine is never written

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Speaker 5: And it and truly that doesn't. But there's things it's

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Speaker 5: So it is definitely based off of like your own judgment.

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Speaker 2: That's not. It at all. It's just saying, hey.

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Speaker 2: Well, Matt Our producer would for sure not make it

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Speaker 2: We just wanted to clear that up. I will call

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Speaker 2: that does clear some things up, I think for us

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Speaker 2: in general. But an episode one, which is entitled The

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Speaker 2: Talks started off with four girls, Taylor, Whitney, Macy, and Michaela.

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Speaker 2: They've been laying low since the scandal broke, but they

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Speaker 4: Macey would be the one I called Mikayla.

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Speaker 2: Correct because she I guess she is. I guess she's

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Speaker 2: a bad bitch. I mean, she's beautiful.

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Speaker 1: But can you call yourself a bad bitch? I feel

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Speaker 2: And honestly, Macey, I'm here to tell you, I wish

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Speaker 1: Well, she's twenty seven, that's the difference.

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Speaker 2: I didn't really realize when I was going down this

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Speaker 2: I can say this. There were two blonds that might

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Speaker 2: She was with somebody named what was his name, Tate.

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Speaker 2: So she was with Tate. That's who she had her

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Speaker 1: You should be single.

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Speaker 4: I like how they have trust issues when you slide

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Speaker 2: But also why do you slide into somebody's DMS? That's drinking,

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Speaker 1: He did nothing for me.

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Speaker 2: He didn't. He's no jow no.

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Speaker 1: Maybe if he had a guitar.

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Speaker 2: Then Macy reveals that Whitney is moving back to Utah.

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Speaker 4: We've got it looks like we've got two that want

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Speaker 2: You were in the group, who would you rather be

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Speaker 4: Well, Taylor, I think is complete ding Dong, but I

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Speaker 2: Was so punishable. I don't know, I don't really know

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Speaker 2: what it is about her, Like I'm like, you bug

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Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, I think it's just that first scene and

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Speaker 2: But Whitney's also the one dancing with her child in

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Speaker 1: That makes sense.

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Speaker 2: That's when she had the matching extensions with the other girls.

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Speaker 2: But now she has the bob cut, like you know,

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Speaker 2: when you get over your extensions and you have no hair,

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Speaker 4: Yeah, but when they show past videos, she has dark hair.

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Speaker 2: Well it's because they're going through a crisis. Well, anyways,

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Speaker 2: they're back in Utah. We're in the mom content house

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Speaker 2: where the moms are filming a new dancing video. But

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Speaker 2: Tailor isn't there, and clearly neither of the two sisters

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Speaker 2: I love a mom like this, you know what I

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Speaker 2: really do? She commented a red flag emoji on Taylor's

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Speaker 2: TikTok post that featured him. Leanne tells Taylor she's done

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Speaker 2: extremely bad. Taylor won't speak to her church leaders because

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Speaker 2: she's scared she'll get excommunicated. I'm like, if you didn't

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Speaker 1: Oh, I feel like she's probably been excommunicated. She just

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Speaker 1: doesn't know yet. She just like didn't get her mail

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Speaker 2: But also, like, what did her mom expect after the

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I don't know, but Okay, I felt like the

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Speaker 1: It didn't feel like a mom daughter conversation.

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Speaker 2: No, But it's probably because her mom scares me, mostly

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Speaker 2: because she's cutting Apple's raw dog on the counter without

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Speaker 4: I don't know, I just felt like I felt like

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Speaker 1: It other than she's like, you're stupid. Well know what.

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Speaker 2: It kind of reminded me of And I know you

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Speaker 2: don't watch other housewife shows, which it's kind of bothersome

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Speaker 2: Monica and her mom, and I believe that Monica from

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Speaker 2: You're like, you know all of these things, but like

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Speaker 2: without things that we're emulating from our parents. Do you agree,

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Speaker 2: I mean some of the things emulating or rebelling from right,

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Speaker 2: But then we're back at I love that it's called

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Speaker 4: Go yes, Like, okay, let me ask a question about that.

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Speaker 4: So there's so much in this episode. I can talk

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Speaker 1: Like how don't that work?

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Speaker 2: Well? I don't know. I don't imagine houses in Utah

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Speaker 4: I guess my point is they get together and they

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Speaker 2: Do you do that? Like no, I don't, but like

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Speaker 2: But okay, the original girl, her name was Miranda. Taylor

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Speaker 2: And well, apparently they show's Taylor, which who wouldn't have.

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Speaker 1: Right, I mean the police footage alone.

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Speaker 2: I mean, it's so good. Then we get to Jesse.

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Speaker 2: She's thirty. She's built a hair empire in Utah. Then

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Speaker 2: her billboard is jizz. That's right, it's so good. Then

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Speaker 2: we've got another mom to meet. She reveals she was

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Speaker 4: This is where I get how do you not know

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Speaker 4: what's happening? If this whole concept of soft swinging is

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Speaker 4: How do you not know what's going on?

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Speaker 2: Well, because it's apparently very quiet to just stick it

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Speaker 4: But but if you're I mean, what do you think

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Speaker 1: How do you not know?

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Speaker 2: You can't. You can't penetrate in any I thought you could.

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Speaker 1: But she I thought. She clarified later that you could

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Speaker 1: do everything.

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Speaker 2: Except No, no, absolutely not. There's nothing that no friction,

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Speaker 1: Then so what are they doing? They're just making out.

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Speaker 2: They're making out, and then they just stick it in

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Speaker 1: And you're gonna tell me that you're at this party

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Speaker 2: That's my point. This just feels like bullshit. And I

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Speaker 4: You're just walking around at a party and someone put

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Speaker 2: All of a sudden, your husband's missing with the hottest

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Speaker 2: and then my other friend's jumping from bed to bed

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Speaker 2: to create some sort of movement. But don't know. I

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Speaker 2: don't know. I think these girls are having too many

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Speaker 2: jellow shots. They're getting wild. According to possibly, Macie may

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Speaker 2: have said this at BYU, this is like what is

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Speaker 1: But I feel like that.

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Speaker 4: But I feel like the soft swinging thing is just

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Speaker 2: I agree. I don't think it's a church thing. I

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Speaker 4: We need Taylor to come on and we need to

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Speaker 4: ask her. I want detailed information about these soft swinging parties.

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Speaker 2: If you think I haven't already slid into Taylor's DMS

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Speaker 2: and saw a scene and she didn't respond, then you

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Speaker 1: Is she's ghosting you? Is she not replying to you?

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Speaker 2: I think we might have to offer cash monies for

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00:23:30,359 --> 00:23:34,160
Speaker 2: her to be on. Then. Demi is twenty nine, her

438
00:23:34,200 --> 00:23:36,879
Speaker 2: husband is forty six. She tells everyone that Taylor was

439
00:23:36,920 --> 00:23:39,560
Speaker 2: flirting with Brett at one of these parties and she

440
00:23:39,680 --> 00:23:43,040
Speaker 2: almost lost it. According to Kendall, one of our other producers,

441
00:23:43,440 --> 00:23:49,360
Speaker 2: she says that Brett's the hottest.

442
00:23:49,119 --> 00:23:52,879
Speaker 1: H I don't know. I haven't really seen the men yet.

443
00:23:53,320 --> 00:23:59,920
Speaker 4: Oh I have other than Dakota and Whitney's husband, who

444
00:24:00,040 --> 00:24:01,560
Speaker 4: that's a whole nother conversation.

445
00:24:01,800 --> 00:24:03,800
Speaker 1: You can just save that for later.

446
00:24:13,880 --> 00:24:17,680
Speaker 2: Then we get back to Leanne's house. She's criticizing Taylor's

447
00:24:17,680 --> 00:24:20,880
Speaker 2: taste in men. We find out Dakota is a recovering

448
00:24:20,920 --> 00:24:25,240
Speaker 2: addict who almost died from a fentanyl overdose. Taylor breaks

449
00:24:25,240 --> 00:24:28,160
Speaker 2: the news that she needs to take a pregnancy test tonight.

450
00:24:29,240 --> 00:24:31,520
Speaker 2: Her mom calls her stupid. She's pissed off of the

451
00:24:31,520 --> 00:24:34,800
Speaker 2: bad decisions Taylor continues to make. She gets up and

452
00:24:34,880 --> 00:24:36,080
Speaker 2: walks away from her daughter.

453
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Speaker 4: Okay, do you think she really needs to take a

454
00:24:40,600 --> 00:24:43,399
Speaker 4: pregnancy test or is this a reality? So, like, I

455
00:24:43,400 --> 00:24:46,320
Speaker 4: already know I'm pregnant, but I'm going to take a test.

456
00:24:46,960 --> 00:24:51,200
Speaker 2: I think one million percent She's like already knows she's pregnant,

457
00:24:51,160 --> 00:24:53,320
Speaker 2: and we find out later what ends up happening with

458
00:24:53,359 --> 00:24:57,040
Speaker 2: the first baby. But like, I don't think she's I

459
00:24:57,080 --> 00:25:00,640
Speaker 2: don't think you're like, hmm, maybe I should take one

460
00:25:01,600 --> 00:25:05,400
Speaker 2: and kind of going from there. But I do think

461
00:25:05,400 --> 00:25:09,520
Speaker 2: that Dakota has a lot of red flags. And I

462
00:25:09,560 --> 00:25:13,119
Speaker 2: also wonder why, if you're we're just within a couple

463
00:25:13,119 --> 00:25:15,840
Speaker 2: of years, you're swinging, you're doing all these things, why

464
00:25:15,920 --> 00:25:18,679
Speaker 2: you'd want to rush into having another baby with a

465
00:25:18,760 --> 00:25:22,119
Speaker 2: sober person that recently had an overdose from fentanyl.

466
00:25:22,560 --> 00:25:24,320
Speaker 1: It doesn't sound like the best plan.

467
00:25:25,320 --> 00:25:28,360
Speaker 2: Listen, I make a lot of mistakes, but this seems

468
00:25:28,400 --> 00:25:29,040
Speaker 2: like a mistake.

469
00:25:29,520 --> 00:25:30,200
Speaker 1: It does.

470
00:25:30,440 --> 00:25:34,520
Speaker 4: It seems like a disaster about to happen. But it's

471
00:25:34,560 --> 00:25:36,160
Speaker 4: one that we're going to be watching, which is.

472
00:25:36,160 --> 00:25:38,720
Speaker 1: Why Teddy cannot wait until the next episode.

473
00:25:39,000 --> 00:25:41,119
Speaker 2: Oh my god, I can't. The fact that I couldn't

474
00:25:41,160 --> 00:25:44,160
Speaker 2: watch the second episode really upset me. Then we're back

475
00:25:44,160 --> 00:25:47,159
Speaker 2: at Jesse's house aka the mom taught Content House for

476
00:25:47,240 --> 00:25:50,399
Speaker 2: the day. Whitney is moving back today, but there's a

477
00:25:50,480 --> 00:25:53,640
Speaker 2: rumor going around that her husband was on Tinder. They

478
00:25:53,680 --> 00:25:55,679
Speaker 2: think this is why she moved to Hawaii in the

479
00:25:55,680 --> 00:26:03,600
Speaker 2: first place. Whitney may have moved to a wife for tender,

480
00:26:03,640 --> 00:26:07,439
Speaker 2: but she's definitely moving back to Salt Lake City to

481
00:26:07,480 --> 00:26:10,320
Speaker 2: be on this television show. Let's way just very clear.

482
00:26:10,800 --> 00:26:12,640
Speaker 1: I just said that to Shane. I was like, okay.

483
00:26:12,640 --> 00:26:14,440
Speaker 4: And then there's this other girl named Whitney, but apparently

484
00:26:14,440 --> 00:26:16,880
Speaker 4: she lived in Hawaii for two months, but now miraculously

485
00:26:16,920 --> 00:26:17,560
Speaker 4: she is back in.

486
00:26:17,600 --> 00:26:20,119
Speaker 1: Utah, just in time to film a reality show.

487
00:26:20,680 --> 00:26:23,000
Speaker 2: Just because she we already heard she wanted to be

488
00:26:23,040 --> 00:26:26,879
Speaker 2: the top Dog, which I don't know. We see the

489
00:26:26,920 --> 00:26:34,879
Speaker 2: conversation between Whitney and her husband. She's starting to get emotional.

490
00:26:34,920 --> 00:26:37,960
Speaker 2: She's excited. I don't know if excited, sorry, but she's

491
00:26:38,000 --> 00:26:39,800
Speaker 2: looking forward to sharing it with the group.

492
00:26:42,040 --> 00:26:46,159
Speaker 4: The tender Scandal. Yeah, okay, let me back up a

493
00:26:46,200 --> 00:26:47,880
Speaker 4: minute because I have something else to say. First of all,

494
00:26:47,880 --> 00:26:50,520
Speaker 4: when they moved into this new house and they had

495
00:26:50,520 --> 00:26:54,320
Speaker 4: a bottle of champagne, do you remember that part?

496
00:26:54,520 --> 00:26:54,720
Speaker 2: Yeah?

497
00:26:54,720 --> 00:26:56,320
Speaker 4: I do, And they were like the real estate agent

498
00:26:56,359 --> 00:26:59,160
Speaker 4: gave a champagne or whatever. This really struck me because

499
00:26:59,160 --> 00:27:01,560
Speaker 4: I am married to a man who is active LDS

500
00:27:01,560 --> 00:27:04,760
Speaker 4: and who has not drank any alcohol his entire life. Never,

501
00:27:05,040 --> 00:27:08,680
Speaker 4: never a drop of alcohol. They moved back into this

502
00:27:08,920 --> 00:27:12,240
Speaker 4: house in Utah, there's a bottle of champagne. They both

503
00:27:12,520 --> 00:27:17,400
Speaker 4: say that they've never had alcohol their entire life. Yet

504
00:27:17,440 --> 00:27:19,640
Speaker 4: there's a camera crew in the kitchen and they both

505
00:27:19,680 --> 00:27:21,120
Speaker 4: take a swig of champagne.

506
00:27:21,600 --> 00:27:22,879
Speaker 2: I mean, how.

507
00:27:22,680 --> 00:27:27,240
Speaker 1: Easily they just whatever convictions they had that they that

508
00:27:27,280 --> 00:27:30,160
Speaker 1: they lived by. How easily they just threw those out

509
00:27:30,200 --> 00:27:32,320
Speaker 1: the window the minute there's a camera crew there.

510
00:27:32,920 --> 00:27:35,160
Speaker 2: Well, I think this is a clear sign that there

511
00:27:35,240 --> 00:27:37,720
Speaker 2: might be some people on this show that are fibbing

512
00:27:38,080 --> 00:27:39,159
Speaker 2: or stretching the truth.

513
00:27:39,920 --> 00:27:43,280
Speaker 4: So you think maybe they drank and they're just pretending

514
00:27:43,359 --> 00:27:44,800
Speaker 4: like they hadn't and they're just I.

515
00:27:44,800 --> 00:27:47,320
Speaker 2: Think they all I think they grew okay. So I

516
00:27:47,320 --> 00:27:51,520
Speaker 2: think this group came together as I don't think they

517
00:27:51,520 --> 00:27:53,560
Speaker 2: were all friends originally, and I don't think they all

518
00:27:53,600 --> 00:27:55,680
Speaker 2: met in the church. They all met because they had

519
00:27:55,960 --> 00:27:59,960
Speaker 2: big followers on TikTok or whatever they wanted to capitalize

520
00:28:00,080 --> 00:28:02,919
Speaker 2: on making money, like you should go down like the

521
00:28:03,000 --> 00:28:07,120
Speaker 2: Ruby frank of it all. Like just I think there

522
00:28:07,240 --> 00:28:10,640
Speaker 2: was like a big stage of like youtubing and all

523
00:28:10,680 --> 00:28:12,719
Speaker 2: of this, and these girls took advantage of it and

524
00:28:12,760 --> 00:28:16,600
Speaker 2: then they just all kind of went buck wild. But

525
00:28:17,400 --> 00:28:20,080
Speaker 2: then we get into Whitney's car. She's moved it back

526
00:28:20,080 --> 00:28:25,000
Speaker 2: into town. They're boxes, she's thirty, She's ready to be

527
00:28:25,040 --> 00:28:30,960
Speaker 2: back with her mom taught girls. She wants before she

528
00:28:31,280 --> 00:28:34,560
Speaker 2: starts to discuss the conversation she's gonna have with the girls,

529
00:28:34,560 --> 00:28:37,800
Speaker 2: but beforehand, Whitney and Michaela are meeting Taylor for brunch.

530
00:28:38,760 --> 00:28:41,800
Speaker 2: I don't know why, why do I have empathy for Taylor?

531
00:28:42,600 --> 00:28:47,360
Speaker 4: Because well because because when Whitney and Michayla are talking, well,

532
00:28:47,360 --> 00:28:49,320
Speaker 4: first of all, they talk up a big game before

533
00:28:49,440 --> 00:28:52,080
Speaker 4: Taylor got there. They're like, oh, yeah, we're gonna I'm

534
00:28:52,080 --> 00:28:54,440
Speaker 4: gonna let her have it. Then I like when she

535
00:28:54,480 --> 00:28:56,520
Speaker 4: walks up and they're like, hey.

536
00:28:56,400 --> 00:28:59,600
Speaker 2: Girl, hey girl, you're looking hot. Now. Oh let me

537
00:28:59,600 --> 00:29:00,440
Speaker 2: feel teddy.

538
00:29:00,800 --> 00:29:03,280
Speaker 1: Oh you're the Oh my gosh, your boobs looks so good.

539
00:29:03,320 --> 00:29:04,080
Speaker 1: I love your hair.

540
00:29:04,240 --> 00:29:07,160
Speaker 2: I was like, okay, yeah, I was like, y'all are

541
00:29:07,200 --> 00:29:11,520
Speaker 2: all full of shit. But they're nervous to be reunited

542
00:29:11,520 --> 00:29:14,120
Speaker 2: with Taylor, so I'm thinking this is the first time

543
00:29:14,160 --> 00:29:18,360
Speaker 2: they've seen Taylor since all of the the mom talk

544
00:29:18,400 --> 00:29:21,040
Speaker 2: of it all. Then Whitney confronts Taylor for posting that

545
00:29:21,160 --> 00:29:23,800
Speaker 2: video and forcing her friends to no longer trust her.

546
00:29:24,320 --> 00:29:26,600
Speaker 2: Taylor doesn't think it's fair that all these moms are

547
00:29:26,600 --> 00:29:29,760
Speaker 2: coming for her, crying about the scandal ruining their lives,

548
00:29:29,800 --> 00:29:32,920
Speaker 2: and shortly after they'll post a TikTok making fun of

549
00:29:32,960 --> 00:29:34,360
Speaker 2: the situation to gain clout.

550
00:29:34,680 --> 00:29:35,160
Speaker 1: I agreed.

551
00:29:35,680 --> 00:29:37,760
Speaker 4: You can't act like you're sad about something and that

552
00:29:37,840 --> 00:29:41,760
Speaker 4: someone did you wrong when you literally took that or

553
00:29:41,920 --> 00:29:44,800
Speaker 4: changed it and threw it back out there and got

554
00:29:44,800 --> 00:29:47,120
Speaker 4: yourself more followers. So clearly you didn't have a problem

555
00:29:47,160 --> 00:29:49,440
Speaker 4: with it. I mean, you capitalized from it.

556
00:29:49,840 --> 00:29:51,800
Speaker 2: And I'm sorry. If we're gonna have problems with things,

557
00:29:51,880 --> 00:29:54,480
Speaker 2: I need to point out something that was blatantly obvious

558
00:29:54,520 --> 00:29:56,880
Speaker 2: to me. We can't brush over the fact that when

559
00:29:56,960 --> 00:30:03,800
Speaker 2: Michaela was sixteen she met Jace and he was twenty one. Yes, then,

560
00:30:03,880 --> 00:30:06,320
Speaker 2: now we're at the Whitney in Connor's house sitting down

561
00:30:06,320 --> 00:30:09,240
Speaker 2: and talk about the tender scanner. Connor breaks down talking

562
00:30:09,240 --> 00:30:11,960
Speaker 2: about what he did to Whitney. Connor talks about having

563
00:30:11,960 --> 00:30:14,320
Speaker 2: a problem, and Whitney decided she doesn't want to keep

564
00:30:14,400 --> 00:30:16,440
Speaker 2: lying about this. But then they make it seem like

565
00:30:16,440 --> 00:30:18,640
Speaker 2: it's a porn problem. So is it a porn problem

566
00:30:18,760 --> 00:30:21,280
Speaker 2: or a cheating problem, or is it tender or what

567
00:30:21,320 --> 00:30:22,360
Speaker 2: are we really working with?

568
00:30:22,640 --> 00:30:24,680
Speaker 1: Okay, I have so many questions about this. Can we

569
00:30:24,720 --> 00:30:25,960
Speaker 1: just break it down a little bit further?

570
00:30:26,600 --> 00:30:29,640
Speaker 4: First of all, she lied about it at first, right,

571
00:30:29,680 --> 00:30:31,200
Speaker 4: They made it like it was a joke, like someone

572
00:30:31,200 --> 00:30:32,880
Speaker 4: posted on Facebook and it was like a joke. It

573
00:30:32,920 --> 00:30:34,760
Speaker 4: was pictures from high school. Haha, he doesn't really have

574
00:30:34,760 --> 00:30:37,360
Speaker 4: a tender account. Then she comes clean and she's like,

575
00:30:37,400 --> 00:30:39,560
Speaker 4: he does have a tender account, and he's had a

576
00:30:39,600 --> 00:30:43,080
Speaker 4: tender account. Apparently the entire marriage is, what she said,

577
00:30:43,480 --> 00:30:47,239
Speaker 4: not just like a one time isolated event. She admits that,

578
00:30:47,320 --> 00:30:49,440
Speaker 4: like it's been basically through the whole marriage.

579
00:30:49,520 --> 00:30:51,720
Speaker 2: I'm here to tell you if my husband, if I

580
00:30:51,800 --> 00:30:54,160
Speaker 2: found his tender account, I'd just move him right out

581
00:30:54,200 --> 00:30:56,240
Speaker 2: of the house. We wouldn't need to move into the

582
00:30:56,280 --> 00:30:59,800
Speaker 2: new Salt Lake City house or go to Hawaii for restructure,

583
00:31:00,560 --> 00:31:02,440
Speaker 2: Like we'd just actually be done.

584
00:31:03,080 --> 00:31:05,320
Speaker 4: But she then she goes on to say that he

585
00:31:05,480 --> 00:31:08,760
Speaker 4: never actually met up with any of these women. And

586
00:31:08,800 --> 00:31:13,440
Speaker 4: I'm putting women in quotations because maybe because clearly maybe

587
00:31:13,440 --> 00:31:17,760
Speaker 4: he didn't actually meet up with women, and I don't.

588
00:31:17,800 --> 00:31:19,320
Speaker 1: There's just a lot to unpack here.

589
00:31:19,640 --> 00:31:24,240
Speaker 2: There's a lot to impact one, including that I don't

590
00:31:24,280 --> 00:31:27,720
Speaker 2: necessarily think that Whitney is being transparent with what she's

591
00:31:27,760 --> 00:31:30,800
Speaker 2: going through. And nothing bugs me more than half transparency.

592
00:31:30,880 --> 00:31:32,920
Speaker 2: It's fine if you want to give a part, like

593
00:31:33,320 --> 00:31:35,400
Speaker 2: if you either want to come clean and be like,

594
00:31:35,520 --> 00:31:37,480
Speaker 2: this is my shit show of a life which we

595
00:31:37,560 --> 00:31:40,160
Speaker 2: all have, all of us EBB and flow with that.

596
00:31:40,560 --> 00:31:45,040
Speaker 2: But she's coming forward with half truths, and that bothers

597
00:31:45,120 --> 00:31:46,480
Speaker 2: me a lot.

598
00:31:47,800 --> 00:31:49,520
Speaker 4: What do you think the half truth is that he

599
00:31:50,520 --> 00:31:53,520
Speaker 4: did something on tender but there's probably more to the story. Like,

600
00:31:53,560 --> 00:31:56,560
Speaker 4: she's telling this story and she's getting sympathy, but she's

601
00:31:56,600 --> 00:31:58,640
Speaker 4: not being one hundred percent transparent about all the things

602
00:31:58,640 --> 00:31:59,200
Speaker 4: that he's done.

603
00:31:59,600 --> 00:32:02,000
Speaker 2: I don't think she's being transparent about the things that

604
00:32:02,040 --> 00:32:04,120
Speaker 2: he's done. But I don't think she's being transparent about

605
00:32:04,160 --> 00:32:06,320
Speaker 2: the things that she's done either. I don't think her

606
00:32:06,360 --> 00:32:08,640
Speaker 2: first sip of alcohol was when she bought the new

607
00:32:08,640 --> 00:32:11,760
Speaker 2: house and she had one sip of champagne from her

608
00:32:12,120 --> 00:32:15,720
Speaker 2: broker's opening, Like, I don't think so. I think she's

609
00:32:15,760 --> 00:32:20,080
Speaker 2: doing jello shots and maybe soaking with one of the

610
00:32:20,120 --> 00:32:26,520
Speaker 2: other husbands, Like, let's just be clear. Then we get

611
00:32:26,600 --> 00:32:31,600
Speaker 2: to after Whitney's confession to Sailor, Taylor decides to make

612
00:32:31,640 --> 00:32:34,520
Speaker 2: her announcement she was pregnant, but she either miscarried her

613
00:32:34,880 --> 00:32:38,880
Speaker 2: or had an ec topic pregnancy. Whitney hates it. Taylor, Okay,

614
00:32:39,400 --> 00:32:43,200
Speaker 2: this this we see in Housewives a lot when two

615
00:32:43,280 --> 00:32:47,280
Speaker 2: people share a story that's very dramatic to them, but

616
00:32:48,040 --> 00:32:50,760
Speaker 2: nobody's really listening to what the other person says. They

617
00:32:50,800 --> 00:32:53,560
Speaker 2: just want to get out their story because.

618
00:32:53,360 --> 00:32:55,880
Speaker 4: They're just waiting for the other person to stop talking.

619
00:32:56,120 --> 00:32:58,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, they're like a zip it so I can tell

620
00:32:58,160 --> 00:33:01,120
Speaker 2: you what my news. So I guess you like, we

621
00:33:01,280 --> 00:33:03,760
Speaker 2: already know that your husband's been a cheater, but now

622
00:33:03,760 --> 00:33:05,360
Speaker 2: I need to tell you that I told my mom

623
00:33:05,360 --> 00:33:08,000
Speaker 2: that I was pregnant with the guy that I met

624
00:33:08,680 --> 00:33:13,840
Speaker 2: swinging that had a fentanyl addiction that slid in too

625
00:33:13,840 --> 00:33:18,200
Speaker 2: my DMS. That's slid in to my DMS. And I'm

626
00:33:18,280 --> 00:33:20,880
Speaker 2: the head doog. So everybody's going to care more about

627
00:33:20,920 --> 00:33:26,960
Speaker 2: my story. So that happens. We get through it. Then

628
00:33:27,000 --> 00:33:30,240
Speaker 2: we get back into me being confused. Because Dakota feels

629
00:33:30,240 --> 00:33:32,800
Speaker 2: that the church has saved him from his past addiction.

630
00:33:33,320 --> 00:33:35,960
Speaker 2: He tells Taylor Taylor he can't be with her if

631
00:33:35,960 --> 00:33:39,760
Speaker 2: she continues to party and drink alcohol, and her confessional

632
00:33:39,840 --> 00:33:42,640
Speaker 2: she says this may be an issue. Then they then

633
00:33:42,680 --> 00:33:44,720
Speaker 2: she goes, I'm just going to go out on one

634
00:33:45,400 --> 00:33:50,720
Speaker 2: last girl's night. Then we hear a recorded nine to

635
00:33:50,720 --> 00:33:53,560
Speaker 2: one to one phone call. Someone has called to report

636
00:33:53,640 --> 00:33:56,880
Speaker 2: domestic violence, saying a woman is screaming get off of

637
00:33:56,920 --> 00:34:00,960
Speaker 2: me in a nearby house. Then the body can footage

638
00:34:01,440 --> 00:34:05,400
Speaker 2: the police officers shown Taylor screaming. Coda tells the policeman

639
00:34:05,840 --> 00:34:08,680
Speaker 2: that she's hammered. She tries to tell them Dakota as two,

640
00:34:09,080 --> 00:34:12,279
Speaker 2: but he says he's sober. Taylor claims he threw her

641
00:34:12,320 --> 00:34:14,840
Speaker 2: in the garage, and Dakota says that's because she was

642
00:34:14,880 --> 00:34:18,120
Speaker 2: attacking him and throwing the chairs at him. Taylor tells

643
00:34:18,120 --> 00:34:21,600
Speaker 2: the police she peeded herself because she was so scared

644
00:34:21,640 --> 00:34:25,520
Speaker 2: of Takoda. She claims he pushed her and that's why

645
00:34:26,000 --> 00:34:28,839
Speaker 2: she threw things at him. The officer puts Taylor under

646
00:34:29,000 --> 00:34:33,520
Speaker 2: arrest for domestic violence. What were the hard part to

647
00:34:33,719 --> 00:34:36,520
Speaker 2: really reconcile here is we know that the two kids

648
00:34:36,600 --> 00:34:39,759
Speaker 2: are in the house, she's just found out she's miscarried

649
00:34:39,840 --> 00:34:43,920
Speaker 2: or had an ectopic pregnancy, and then we go into

650
00:34:43,920 --> 00:34:45,800
Speaker 2: the rest of the season and we end up finding

651
00:34:45,800 --> 00:34:47,920
Speaker 2: out that these two end up together and she ends

652
00:34:48,000 --> 00:34:54,080
Speaker 2: up pregnant. Taylor talks about being arrested and she wasn't.

653
00:34:55,040 --> 00:34:59,480
Speaker 2: So this nine one one incident happened not when she

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Speaker 2: was pregnant. This is when they were first dating, right. No,

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Speaker 2: this nine one one incident happened right after she had

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Speaker 2: the first either miscarriage or the a topic pregnancy.

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Speaker 1: So this nine one one footage happened while she was

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Speaker 1: filming the show.

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Speaker 5: Then.

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Speaker 2: I don't know if it's while she was filming the show,

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Speaker 2: but it was. They had it was, I mean from

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Speaker 2: what I had seen on TikTok, they had gone out,

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Speaker 2: she decided she was going to go to this concert

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Speaker 2: with her girlfriends. She came home, he was with the kids.

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Speaker 2: They got into this fight. They were throwing stuff at

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Speaker 2: each other. The kids were awake. Neither of them called

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Speaker 2: nine when one the neighbor did.

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Speaker 1: The neighbor did, Yeah, I heard the phone call from it.

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Speaker 2: I mean, all of it's really kind of actually sad

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Speaker 2: when you break it down.

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Speaker 4: Well, it's sad because you know, the kid's witnessed this,

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Speaker 4: and I guess she was arrested because the chair actually

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Speaker 4: hit a child or just came close to hitting a child.

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Speaker 2: She was arrested, I believe, and allegedly because there was

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Speaker 2: actually marks on Dakota from her and there was a

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Speaker 2: kid that was like, and this was in February of

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Speaker 2: twenty twenty three, and then so she was arrested in

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Speaker 2: February seventeenth. Authorities charged her with aggravated assault, two counts

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Speaker 2: of domestic violence in the presence of a child, child

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Speaker 2: aboose with injury, and a criminal mischief according to police

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Speaker 2: in Salt Lake City County. And then coming up this season,

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Speaker 2: we see Taylor talks about being arrested. We're gonna see

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Speaker 2: her pregnant again. There's a fight who will be Queen

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Speaker 2: Bee of mom talk. You're either team Taylor, team Whitney.

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Speaker 2: But it seems to me, it seems like all these

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Speaker 2: friendships are fake anyways, and they're doing this for money,

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Speaker 2: which really kind of sums up this Salt Lake City

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Speaker 2: perfection of women who are trying to like, there's a

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Speaker 2: something that I saw where the women say, our job

690
00:36:59,040 --> 00:37:00,839
Speaker 2: in life is just so of these men.

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Speaker 4: So you think these are just all women that are

692
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Speaker 4: trying to break from that stereo type of serving man

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Speaker 4: or being and trying to create their own identity, and

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Speaker 4: they're doing it through this mom talk. Like clearly they're

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Speaker 4: not a group of friends like Inluencer, right, they are

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Speaker 4: a group of influencers who had a lot of followers

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Speaker 4: on TikTok. So then I'm sure they all reached out

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Speaker 4: to each other got together so they could build more

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Speaker 4: followers from each other. So you know you're not talking

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Speaker 4: about deep rooted friendships here.

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Speaker 2: No, And now what they're going to do is they're

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Speaker 2: going to fight for famous who is going to be

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Speaker 2: the most popular of the secret wives of Mormon lives.

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Speaker 2: And I hate to be the bearer of bad news,

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Speaker 2: but at this point it's Taylor, which was the same

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Speaker 2: one as TikTok. And so we continue on until the

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Speaker 2: next episode and until the next episode. Thanks you guys

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Speaker 2: for tuning in to another episode of Popping Off. Please

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Speaker 2: share with us your favorites, any high takes, any information

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Speaker 2: that you have on the LDS church, because we did

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Speaker 2: have an inside source today, but I do feel like

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Speaker 2: we are always willing and open to get in more information.

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Speaker 2: And Emily, please make sure Shane is watching.

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Speaker 1: No I am.

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Speaker 4: He hasn't watched the first episode yet, but I told

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Speaker 4: him he needs to watch the episodes because I do

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Speaker 4: enjoy his perspective. Well we need it, yes, we need it.

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Speaker 4: So we'll get Shane's perspective on this as well.

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Speaker 2: Okay, well, I will talk to you next week then, Okay,

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Speaker 2: thanks for listening, Bye guys.