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Speaker 1: Hey, this is Sam. This is a John your og

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Speaker 1: Okay Storytime podcast host. We got some great stories coming up.

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Speaker 1: Before that, we have a quick two minute break from

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Speaker 2: My boyfriend had a meltdown after finding out my friend's age.

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Speaker 2: I don't recognize him anymore.

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Speaker 3: Who is that?

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Speaker 4: Is that my boyfriend?

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Speaker 3: No, it's some sort of shadow monster.

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Speaker 2: I've been dating my boyfriend Mike for about four months

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Speaker 2: and everything has been great until now. This post is

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Speaker 2: gonna make Mike sound kind of crazy, but up until

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Speaker 2: now he has been the nicest, most laid back guy

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Speaker 2: I've ever dated. By the way, this comes from Throwaway

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Speaker 2: BF Gone Mad, twenty twenty one on the r slash

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Speaker 2: Okay Storytime subread it so. About a week ago, I

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Speaker 2: was on a zoom call with two of my friends,

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Speaker 2: but we will call Annie and Sarah. Sarah's twenty seven.

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Speaker 2: Annie is thirty six. I was talking to Annie and

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Speaker 2: Sarah and Mike leaned over my shoulder to say hello.

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Speaker 2: Because of the pandemic, he hasn't met either of them

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Speaker 2: meeting Annie at all, which is a thirty six. I

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Speaker 2: wanted him to get to know my friends a bit,

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Speaker 2: so I invited him to sit next to me and

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Speaker 2: stick around. Sarah was talking about her dating woes and

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Speaker 2: how the pandemic has made it harder to date than ever,

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Speaker 2: and Mike made a weird joke about how Sarah needs

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Speaker 2: to find a guy quick because at thirty she's gonna

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Speaker 2: hit the wall and no man will want to marry her.

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Speaker 2: He said it in this joking voice, but both Annie

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Speaker 5: That is a super weird thing to say to somebody

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Speaker 5: you just met on FaceTime.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I was too, to be honest, Mike's never said

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Speaker 2: anything like that before. I guess Mike picked up on

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Speaker 2: the awkwardness because he started trying to explain himself and

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Speaker 2: started saying all the stuff about how women age like

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Speaker 2: milk and it's not the same for guys, and men

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Speaker 2: intend to date younger because after thirty they hold all

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Speaker 2: the cards and can pick and choose. And he said,

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Speaker 2: I haven't had any trouble meeting men. And Mike said,

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Speaker 2: It's all downhill from there, and he just kind of laughed,

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Speaker 2: and I had to tell my that she's thirty six

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Speaker 2: and obviously hasn't lost her looks if he's mistaking her

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Speaker 2: for a twenty something year old. I said it kind

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Speaker 2: of jokingly, but Mike just went silent and then walked

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Speaker 2: off into my bedroom and slammed the door. That night,

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Speaker 2: and ever since then, he's been very moody in short

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Speaker 2: how I'm always against him and never have his back.

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Speaker 2: We've never even had an argument before this, so I

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Speaker 2: don't know where he's coming from. I've tried to bring

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Speaker 2: up the antithing several times and he either clams up

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Speaker 2: to me Annie and Sarah ganging up on him and

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Speaker 2: bullying him, which I don't think any of us did.

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Speaker 2: The rest of the time, he's very short with me

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Speaker 2: I really want to talk to him about what happened

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Speaker 2: and has used on women and men and aging, because

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Speaker 2: that's kind of concerning. I don't understand why my sweet,

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Speaker 2: cool boyfriend has suddenly transformed into this weirdo because he

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Speaker 2: got politely corrected once. How should I solve this? Relevant

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Speaker 2: comments twenty twenty has hit A lot of people has

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Speaker 4: Ooh, that is right.

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Speaker 5: That was right about the time of his you know,

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Speaker 5: rise to infamy. Like, first of all, women don't age

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Speaker 5: like milk. Men don't age like milk. Everybody ages how

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it all depends.

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Speaker 5: The longest somebody can pretend to be someone there not

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Speaker 3: Yep, so you're at the four month mark.

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Speaker 5: Looks like he might be showing you as true colors

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Speaker 5: instead of being the cool, calm, awesome guy, he's actually

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Speaker 3: And you just have never disagreed with him once.

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Speaker 5: Now he's like, I can't believe a woman disagreed with

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Speaker 5: Now he's disgusting.

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Speaker 2: Relevant comments Katie Fell shot one two three w TA

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Speaker 2: sounds like your boyfriend is a shallow pos I mean,

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Speaker 2: was he seriously looking for you to back him up

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Speaker 2: that older women fall apart. If that's what he really thinks,

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Speaker 2: then your relationship is over in two years. Anyways, Smack

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Speaker 2: him upside the head, tell him to grow up, and

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Speaker 2: you can move from this. This is the dumbest non

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Speaker 2: issue I've ever heard of my life. Your boyfriend is

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Speaker 2: being a little dog, and he sounds like the type

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Speaker 2: of person that is loaded up with double standards. Op says.

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Speaker 2: That went through my mind too, and it is part

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Speaker 2: of why I want to talk to him about this,

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Speaker 2: because if he really thinks women are washed up after thirty,

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Speaker 2: then what does that mean for our relationship, because she's

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Speaker 2: gonna be thirty in two years.

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Speaker 5: She'd But also I don't agree with that comment. You're

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Speaker 5: being like, this is just something you should just like

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Speaker 5: talk about and move on. It's not even an issue.

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Speaker 3: It's like, this is a huge issue.

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Speaker 5: If he fundamentally views women as like an object that

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Speaker 5: deteriorates in value over time, that is not anyone you

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Speaker 5: want to have a long term relationship with at all.

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Speaker 2: And Delite had said, once I heard the phrase when

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Speaker 2: people show you who they really are, believe them. It

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Speaker 2: changed my life. Listen to who he is showing you

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Speaker 2: he is. Ope, do give credit. It's a Maya Angelou quote.

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Speaker 2: Thanks to everyone that told me Op. I think I'm

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Speaker 2: going to take your advice. It makes me sad. He

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Speaker 2: really seems so great up until now. But I guess

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Speaker 2: this is a lesson to me that you can't always

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Speaker 2: trust the first impression you get of someone. I texted

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Speaker 2: him I want to talk. So I guess either he

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Speaker 2: can respond and we can have an actual, a DoPT

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Speaker 2: breakup in person, or he can keep ignoring me and

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Speaker 2: get dumped by text tomorrow.

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Speaker 5: Dump him by text. Honestly, you know what you should do.

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Speaker 5: Dump him by mail, no voicemail, voice memo. Just send

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Speaker 5: him a voice memo. That's like, you know what, I

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Speaker 5: just think you're aging like milk, and I can't see

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Speaker 5: myself with someone as ugly as you are on the

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Speaker 4: So I think we're done here, buster.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, just to really send it home how because literally

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Speaker 5: he was like basically telling her friend like, yeah, you're

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Speaker 5: gonna be super ugly.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, You're gonna be super ugly.

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Speaker 2: No one's gonna like it.

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Speaker 3: You see, you've been a urry up, stupid, smelly, ugly lady.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you better grow a personality too, because no one's

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Speaker 2: gonna look at you with those looks. Update. I want

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Speaker 2: to say thank you blah blah blah blah blah. But

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Speaker 2: seeing everyone basically unanimously telling me Mike was bad news

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Speaker 2: was a wake up call I needed. As a matter

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Speaker 2: of fact, it was actually Sarah who told me to

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Speaker 2: that zoom call, and I have kind of been pushing

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Speaker 2: back when she suggested I end the relationship. She didn't

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Speaker 2: sound surprised when I told her Reddit unanimously said he

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Speaker 2: was bad news. I think she was probably thinking I

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Speaker 2: told you so. But she's a good friend and probably

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Speaker 2: They don't think I told you so. They just kind

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Speaker 2: of give you a look like yeah. I also called

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Speaker 2: my dad after the Reddit post, and something he said

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Speaker 2: basically cemented my decision to end it with Mike. He

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Speaker 2: happily married for thirty years. He said, if you stay

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Speaker 2: to be worrying he'll never find you beautiful again. Instead

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Speaker 2: I feel happy that she's choosing to spend another year

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Speaker 2: growing older with me. And basically that's what I want,

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Speaker 2: and obviously I wasn't going to have that with Mike anyway,

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Speaker 2: Long story short, I did break up with Mike. I

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Speaker 2: texted him asking him to meet up and talk, and

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Speaker 2: when he asks what about, I told him we need

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Speaker 2: to discuss the zoom call and how he'd been acting

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Speaker 2: this week. By the way, you can act like crazy

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Speaker 2: fools on a live stream when you join us live

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Speaker 2: every weekday at three people on YouTube, Facebook, Twitch, and TikTok.

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Speaker 2: All you gotta do is tap a profile you're in

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Speaker 2: and maybe we're live right now, but we have a

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Speaker 2: little bit left of this drama field to go to

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Speaker 2: helpie film.

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Speaker 5: Definitely, your dad is phenomenal. Yeah, that was great advice

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Speaker 5: from the dad. You know what that reminds me of

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Speaker 5: George Clooney, reminds me of this guy, Ah dude star,

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Speaker 5: he's cunity paternity. I'm gonna use that if this ever

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Speaker 5: happens to one of my daughters. You put that right

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Speaker 5: in the memory banks for sure. Yeah, I'm sometimes I mean,

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Speaker 5: I think Op's done everything right. Like you know, sometimes

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Speaker 5: it's hard to like see that somebody's showing you who

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Speaker 5: they really are. But it's like in a moment like that,

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Speaker 5: I don't know, first of all, being able to talk

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Speaker 5: to your friend, like saying that to somebody you just met,

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Speaker 5: like you can say that to somebody you're friends with.

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Speaker 3: He wasn't friends with any of those people.

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Speaker 4: They didn't even know they existed, you know.

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Speaker 5: So it's like, how are you gonna say that the

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Speaker 5: moment you meet somebody who's, by the way, she's thirty

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Speaker 5: six eighty, she's six years into not being hot, dummy?

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Speaker 4: What are you talking about?

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Speaker 3: So there goes your whole argument fell apart right there,

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Speaker 3: and he got.

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Speaker 2: Caught in like a mouse and a mousetrap, and he's

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Speaker 2: been sad ever since because he has a boom boo.

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Speaker 2: Now he doesn't know how to end.

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Speaker 5: You are better off without him, clearly, And really that's

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Speaker 5: I think all that needs to be said.

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Speaker 3: W Dad, wop OPI's.

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Speaker 5: Friend for not like going off on her for not

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Speaker 5: because sometimes friends will get really mad at you if

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Speaker 5: they don't like who you're dating and like you stick

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Speaker 5: with them like you know, which is can you understandable?

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Speaker 5: But sounds like your friend did the perfect thing, which

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Speaker 5: was tell her to post it on Reddit.

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Speaker 2: Here is the last little bit. I got more of

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Speaker 2: the same stuff about how I'm a bullying ganging up

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Speaker 2: on him and he wants an apology from me, And

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Speaker 2: even though I had wanted to do the breakup in person,

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Speaker 2: I realized he was going to keep trying to turn

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Speaker 2: it around into being my fault. So I just told

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Speaker 2: him over text that I didn't want to see him anymore,

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Speaker 2: and he texted back, whatever, grow up and has a

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Speaker 2: contact to me since Congratulations, he's done contacting you. That's

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Speaker 2: the easiest way to get rid of an idiot I've

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Speaker 6: So that's that.

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Speaker 2: Not a very interesting update, I know. But even though

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Speaker 2: a big explosive argument might have been a more interesting update,

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Speaker 2: I'm kind of glad I avoided and relevant thoughts through

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Speaker 5: he got a second number on how his friend was

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Speaker 5: If y'all don't share the same values, y'all don't need

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Speaker 4: No, it sounds like she's mature and he's not.

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Speaker 4: You're just showing off that your life so cool without me.

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Speaker 5: I told him this was why I left you, and

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Speaker 2: No, there's this thing called gas lamping, and you are

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Speaker 4: Let's see.

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Speaker 5: Yes, I left the country two years ago after college graduation,

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Speaker 2: You know what you want?

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Speaker 3: You know you don't want. You don't want this guy

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Speaker 2: Him and you want to travel and you're celebrating that

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Speaker 5: Yeah, and if he wants to be, you know, if

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Speaker 2: Whenever we broke up. I was like, I'm not going

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Speaker 5: Yeah, not stalking your ex is definitely a good way

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Speaker 4: Oo pee.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Like I agree with the dad.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean, it's also like him being insecure like

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Speaker 2: And you saw that, and you clocked that, and you

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Speaker 5: After blocking my ex a couple of days ago, I

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Speaker 5: We met at our friend's house and he apologized for

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Speaker 5: I said I didn't care, and that I was sorry

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Speaker 5: like low key, You're like, yeah, sorry, I made you

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Speaker 5: I know, many people may call me a doormat for

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Speaker 5: I don't want to keep any regrets, not from my side.

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Speaker 5: Can we please normalize prioritizing our peace of mind instead

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Speaker 5: of like winning or losing, just whatever makes you feel

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Speaker 2: Dang. Get this scroll on a tag talk how to

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Speaker 5: My ex did not scream, but he looked agitated and

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Speaker 5: still don't get to sum it up. My ex said

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Speaker 5: enough for me to marry him. I certainly didn't love

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Speaker 5: of dawn. Because women, why are you flaunting your autonomy?

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Speaker 5: You need to be waking up early and doing my chores.

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Speaker 2: Yes, you need to cook me a sandwich.

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Speaker 3: It hits different when you say cook me a sandwich.

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Speaker 2: Se I'm not misogynistic. I don't know how to say

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Speaker 5: It's actually even more misogynistic because you don't even know

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Speaker 5: be clear, And his mother said, ultra modern women don't

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Speaker 3: You're just dodging a bullet here. Yeah, because I make

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Speaker 5: He also told me that he felt like I keep

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Speaker 5: it's kind of relieving that he is a bit of

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Speaker 5: of you good people. When you join us live every

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Speaker 5: and you are in and we might even be live

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Speaker 5: right now. Yeah, before where you check on that though,

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Speaker 5: let's finish this story for everyone watching. Exactly what op

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00:19:04,720 --> 00:19:07,040
Speaker 5: said at the beginning of the story is like a

442
00:19:07,160 --> 00:19:09,879
Speaker 5: perfect example of how to determine whether or not you

443
00:19:09,960 --> 00:19:10,640
Speaker 5: want to be with somebody.

444
00:19:10,720 --> 00:19:12,399
Speaker 3: Right, if you don't want.

445
00:19:12,280 --> 00:19:13,840
Speaker 5: To be in a long distance relationship, but you'd have

446
00:19:13,920 --> 00:19:16,480
Speaker 5: to be long distance, and if you do not share

447
00:19:16,480 --> 00:19:18,440
Speaker 5: the same values as the person that you're with, and

448
00:19:18,560 --> 00:19:21,920
Speaker 5: you can see down the tunnel that like it's going

449
00:19:22,000 --> 00:19:23,760
Speaker 5: to come to a head. And y'all are never going

450
00:19:23,840 --> 00:19:27,320
Speaker 5: to agree on that stuff. It's not a good enough

451
00:19:27,400 --> 00:19:31,440
Speaker 5: fit to get married. Now, can you like casually like

452
00:19:31,600 --> 00:19:34,919
Speaker 5: date somebody like that? Like sure, oh yeah, but getting

453
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Speaker 5: married to somebody like that.

454
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Speaker 2: That's the reason why people date determined that they want

455
00:19:38,560 --> 00:19:40,639
Speaker 2: to marry someone, all right, And she did that, she

456
00:19:40,720 --> 00:19:40,960
Speaker 2: did that.

457
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Speaker 5: Well, you date to determine what you like, what you

458
00:19:44,240 --> 00:19:46,679
Speaker 5: don't like, What are your values? What do you want

459
00:19:46,760 --> 00:19:49,080
Speaker 5: someone else who will be your partner's values to be?

460
00:19:49,400 --> 00:19:50,879
Speaker 5: You know, it's not like you have to date a

461
00:19:50,960 --> 00:19:54,399
Speaker 5: carbon copy of you know, your own thoughts, but like

462
00:19:54,720 --> 00:19:57,080
Speaker 5: you need to align on certain things. Yeah, and I

463
00:19:57,200 --> 00:20:00,159
Speaker 5: think clearly the way that he viewed women with is

464
00:20:00,200 --> 00:20:04,320
Speaker 5: not anyway aligned with how you wore your family's views.

465
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Speaker 2: Yeah. So good job, Op, good freaking job.

466
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Speaker 5: The only part that's stung was when he said I

467
00:20:11,320 --> 00:20:14,200
Speaker 5: had a picture perfect life abroad, because I don't have that.

468
00:20:14,760 --> 00:20:17,320
Speaker 5: It's a new country, a new culture, and a new language.

469
00:20:17,600 --> 00:20:20,280
Speaker 5: And while the quality of life may be more and

470
00:20:20,440 --> 00:20:23,080
Speaker 5: I have my good days, that doesn't mean I don't struggle.

471
00:20:23,640 --> 00:20:26,760
Speaker 5: I miss my language, my home, and my parents a lot.

472
00:20:27,520 --> 00:20:30,000
Speaker 5: Just because you post selfies of places doesn't mean life

473
00:20:30,080 --> 00:20:33,200
Speaker 5: is all sunshine and roses, unlike what social media thinks

474
00:20:33,880 --> 00:20:37,280
Speaker 5: it was relieving. Ultimately, I don't think I even know

475
00:20:37,359 --> 00:20:40,760
Speaker 5: what closure actually means, and technically I'm doing good in life.

476
00:20:40,800 --> 00:20:45,520
Speaker 3: All things considered, I will be okay. Mostly. Thank you guys.

477
00:20:45,840 --> 00:20:48,159
Speaker 3: You are all very nice in the replies, and that

478
00:20:48,920 --> 00:20:50,080
Speaker 3: is the end of that story.

479
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Speaker 2: If I keep finding long black hairs in my boyfriend's

480
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Speaker 2: and eyes bathroom. I have red hair that don't add

481
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Speaker 2: up to me. I twenty four female in my boyfriend

482
00:21:00,160 --> 00:21:02,840
Speaker 2: six Mele have been together for four years and living

483
00:21:02,920 --> 00:21:05,120
Speaker 2: together for one and a half years. For the first

484
00:21:05,240 --> 00:21:07,879
Speaker 2: year we lived with another friend, but now it's just

485
00:21:07,960 --> 00:21:11,240
Speaker 2: the two of us. This comes from throwaway one two, three, four, zero, nine,

486
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Speaker 2: eight seven six five on the R Side show Okay

487
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Speaker 2: story Tom celebred it. So we've had some big fights

488
00:21:16,200 --> 00:21:19,040
Speaker 2: in the beginning of our relationship the first year, but

489
00:21:19,200 --> 00:21:21,760
Speaker 2: we worked through them and now we have a great

490
00:21:21,800 --> 00:21:25,880
Speaker 2: relationship overall. However, since we moved into our current apartment,

491
00:21:26,119 --> 00:21:29,680
Speaker 2: I keep finding long black hairs in the bathroom. They're

492
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Speaker 2: about sixty five centimeters long and straight op.

493
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Speaker 3: He is doing science projects on the hairs in the bathroom.

494
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Speaker 2: I should mention my hair is red and my hair

495
00:21:41,080 --> 00:21:44,840
Speaker 2: is short, barely fifteen centimeters long. For those of you

496
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Speaker 2: that don't know, fifteen centimeters is six inches. Thirty centimeters

497
00:21:49,920 --> 00:21:53,720
Speaker 2: is a foot, so two feet versus like half a foot.

498
00:21:54,040 --> 00:21:56,560
Speaker 2: Oh my gosh, So it can't be his. His hair

499
00:21:56,680 --> 00:21:59,159
Speaker 2: is short, barely fifteen centimeters, so it can't be his.

500
00:22:00,400 --> 00:22:03,280
Speaker 2: I found one. I called him while he was with

501
00:22:03,440 --> 00:22:05,840
Speaker 2: his sister and told him we need to talk. When

502
00:22:05,880 --> 00:22:08,919
Speaker 2: you get home, you better hurry. I was really nervous.

503
00:22:09,119 --> 00:22:11,320
Speaker 2: When he got back, he yelled at me for embarrassing

504
00:22:11,400 --> 00:22:13,800
Speaker 2: him in front of his sister. He denied everything and

505
00:22:13,920 --> 00:22:16,280
Speaker 2: didn't want to discourss it further. Okay, break up, break

506
00:22:16,320 --> 00:22:18,160
Speaker 2: up right hair, break up right hair. At the time,

507
00:22:18,280 --> 00:22:20,600
Speaker 2: I tried to justify it by thinking it might have

508
00:22:20,720 --> 00:22:23,399
Speaker 2: been left behind by a friend who had visited us

509
00:22:23,520 --> 00:22:27,160
Speaker 2: two weeks earlier, or maybe I haven't clean properly since then.

510
00:22:27,720 --> 00:22:30,840
Speaker 2: Though I found more hairs always when I come home

511
00:22:31,119 --> 00:22:34,920
Speaker 2: after working at the office. The third time, I taped

512
00:22:35,359 --> 00:22:37,440
Speaker 2: the hair to a piece of paper and left it

513
00:22:37,520 --> 00:22:39,680
Speaker 2: for him to see. When he got home, he yelled

514
00:22:39,680 --> 00:22:41,920
Speaker 2: at me, saying he was tired of my insecurity and

515
00:22:42,040 --> 00:22:45,040
Speaker 2: reminding him he's home most of the time. He ignored

516
00:22:45,080 --> 00:22:46,639
Speaker 2: me for the rest of that night, too, and I

517
00:22:46,840 --> 00:22:49,680
Speaker 2: eventually just moved on. Yesterday, I went to a party

518
00:22:49,720 --> 00:22:51,919
Speaker 2: with work colleagues, and when I got back and went

519
00:22:51,960 --> 00:22:55,000
Speaker 2: to the bathroom, I found another black hair. I called

520
00:22:55,119 --> 00:22:58,880
Speaker 2: him to come and look, and he responded angrily, really yeah.

521
00:22:59,000 --> 00:23:01,359
Speaker 2: He seemed very ir irritated, and I ignored him, and

522
00:23:01,480 --> 00:23:04,200
Speaker 2: he ignored me too. This morning, he tried to talk

523
00:23:04,240 --> 00:23:06,439
Speaker 2: to me and asked why I wasn't speaking to him,

524
00:23:06,760 --> 00:23:08,960
Speaker 2: but I didn't respond, and he left to go to

525
00:23:09,040 --> 00:23:11,720
Speaker 2: the doctor and then went to the office. I've even

526
00:23:11,800 --> 00:23:14,879
Speaker 2: tried looking at his phone, but I've never found anything suspicious.

527
00:23:15,200 --> 00:23:17,840
Speaker 2: He's always on his phone, either listening to podcasts or

528
00:23:17,880 --> 00:23:20,960
Speaker 2: scrolling through reels, but I haven't really seen anything alarming.

529
00:23:21,440 --> 00:23:23,440
Speaker 2: Most of the time we're together, and I do feel

530
00:23:23,480 --> 00:23:26,480
Speaker 2: pretty loved in this relationship, but these hairs are driving

531
00:23:26,560 --> 00:23:30,000
Speaker 2: me insane, especially because he refuses to address the issue

532
00:23:30,119 --> 00:23:34,000
Speaker 2: or take my concerns seriously. Any advice, op on cleaning

533
00:23:34,080 --> 00:23:36,320
Speaker 2: the house and seeing if more hair showed up. OP

534
00:23:36,520 --> 00:23:38,520
Speaker 2: on cleaning the house and seeing if more hair showed up.

535
00:23:38,800 --> 00:23:39,040
Speaker 6: Op.

536
00:23:39,240 --> 00:23:41,359
Speaker 2: Two times a week, I vacuum and clean because my

537
00:23:41,480 --> 00:23:44,639
Speaker 2: bathroom is beige and every hair can be seen. I

538
00:23:44,760 --> 00:23:48,560
Speaker 2: am so suspicious. Any chances on op having visitors at

539
00:23:48,600 --> 00:23:52,000
Speaker 2: her place who might match the hairs, op. I haven't

540
00:23:52,040 --> 00:23:54,160
Speaker 2: really had any visitors for a while. The only way

541
00:23:54,240 --> 00:23:56,320
Speaker 2: it would be for them the hairs to get on

542
00:23:56,520 --> 00:23:58,920
Speaker 2: my clothes when I go to my sister's house, but

543
00:23:59,040 --> 00:24:01,320
Speaker 2: it's happened too many time for that to be the case.

544
00:24:01,800 --> 00:24:04,720
Speaker 2: I say, she has similar hair as the one I found,

545
00:24:04,840 --> 00:24:08,359
Speaker 2: but I don't visit her so often. Opie has visited

546
00:24:08,440 --> 00:24:10,879
Speaker 2: someone else, which their hairs could have gotten on opiece

547
00:24:10,960 --> 00:24:13,320
Speaker 2: clothes when she came home, and the hairs were found

548
00:24:13,359 --> 00:24:16,160
Speaker 2: in different places. No, never new sheets. I have white

549
00:24:16,240 --> 00:24:18,800
Speaker 2: sheets and I've never found a hair there, only in

550
00:24:18,880 --> 00:24:22,119
Speaker 2: the bathroom. My sister has long black hair similar to

551
00:24:22,160 --> 00:24:25,280
Speaker 2: the one I found. Of our friends, but they don't

552
00:24:25,560 --> 00:24:29,000
Speaker 2: visit us. My sister has long black hair similar to

553
00:24:29,040 --> 00:24:31,879
Speaker 2: the one I found and one of our friends, but

554
00:24:32,000 --> 00:24:35,120
Speaker 2: they don't visit us. Yes, I visit my sister once

555
00:24:35,160 --> 00:24:37,880
Speaker 2: a week. This can be a possibility. Yes, my sister

556
00:24:38,000 --> 00:24:40,359
Speaker 2: has similar hair, and I visit her maybe once a

557
00:24:40,440 --> 00:24:41,800
Speaker 2: week or two times a week.

558
00:24:42,000 --> 00:24:45,800
Speaker 3: I see you, bro OPI I think maybe I don't know.

559
00:24:46,160 --> 00:24:48,560
Speaker 2: Well, to be fair, she's visiting with her sister, so

560
00:24:48,680 --> 00:24:49,520
Speaker 2: she sees her sister now.

561
00:24:49,560 --> 00:24:52,480
Speaker 5: But the suspicious thing about this story is actually the

562
00:24:52,600 --> 00:24:56,159
Speaker 5: boyfriend's reaction. Yeah, if you we're doing nothing wrong, you

563
00:24:56,359 --> 00:24:58,000
Speaker 5: just be like, I don't know even where did that

564
00:24:58,080 --> 00:25:00,359
Speaker 5: come from? It's a hair babe, I don't know did

565
00:25:00,400 --> 00:25:02,520
Speaker 5: it come through the event. I don't know, is someone

566
00:25:02,600 --> 00:25:04,600
Speaker 5: breaking into our house and shedding in the bathroom.

567
00:25:04,640 --> 00:25:05,040
Speaker 4: Who knows?

568
00:25:05,359 --> 00:25:08,879
Speaker 5: But like the fact that he's just like again, and

569
00:25:09,000 --> 00:25:11,399
Speaker 5: then he just goes silent all night. It's like the

570
00:25:11,560 --> 00:25:15,080
Speaker 5: only other scenario is you're somehow you're like one or

571
00:25:15,119 --> 00:25:18,080
Speaker 5: two of your sister's hairs is falling off in the bathroom.

572
00:25:17,640 --> 00:25:18,720
Speaker 4: When you get into the shower.

573
00:25:19,000 --> 00:25:21,200
Speaker 2: But we got an update last night. When my boyfriend

574
00:25:21,240 --> 00:25:24,640
Speaker 2: got home. We had a much needed conversation. I approached

575
00:25:24,720 --> 00:25:27,840
Speaker 2: him and calmly said something like, Hey, I feel like

576
00:25:27,920 --> 00:25:30,760
Speaker 2: your lack of acknowledgment around the situation is making me

577
00:25:30,880 --> 00:25:33,520
Speaker 2: lose trust, and I think it's important we talk about it.

578
00:25:33,800 --> 00:25:36,240
Speaker 2: I didn't accuse him of cheating, but I did share

579
00:25:36,280 --> 00:25:39,120
Speaker 2: my feelings about the hairs I've been finding and explain

580
00:25:39,280 --> 00:25:41,600
Speaker 2: how they've been making me feel. At first, he seemed

581
00:25:41,600 --> 00:25:44,920
Speaker 2: to listen, but then he turned the conversation around, accusing

582
00:25:45,000 --> 00:25:48,080
Speaker 2: me of cheating because I am by. He said, why

583
00:25:48,160 --> 00:25:51,960
Speaker 2: wouldn't it be you cheating? Things escalated quickly, and he

584
00:25:52,080 --> 00:25:55,400
Speaker 2: expressed frustrations, saying I embarrassed him when I call while

585
00:25:55,440 --> 00:25:58,720
Speaker 2: he's out because of my insecurities. To add some contexts,

586
00:25:58,760 --> 00:26:01,639
Speaker 2: I found out recently that one of his ex girlfriends

587
00:26:01,800 --> 00:26:05,520
Speaker 2: is no longer engaged. This is someone we've had issues

588
00:26:05,560 --> 00:26:08,199
Speaker 2: with in the past. Years ago, he flirted with her

589
00:26:08,280 --> 00:26:10,960
Speaker 2: at a birthday party I organized for him, which led

590
00:26:11,040 --> 00:26:14,280
Speaker 2: us to breaking up temporarily. Before we moved in together,

591
00:26:14,680 --> 00:26:16,840
Speaker 2: he used to hang out with her without telling me,

592
00:26:17,359 --> 00:26:20,639
Speaker 2: and I know he occasionally messaged her, though he hides it.

593
00:26:21,080 --> 00:26:24,399
Speaker 2: Her hair is dark red, but it's not hers I'm finding.

594
00:26:24,840 --> 00:26:27,520
Speaker 2: But their history still makes me uneasy. But people can

595
00:26:27,640 --> 00:26:28,080
Speaker 2: dye their hair.

596
00:26:28,200 --> 00:26:29,120
Speaker 4: Have you heard of hair dye?

597
00:26:29,280 --> 00:26:31,480
Speaker 2: Yeah? My girlfriend dies her hair. Seems like a lot.

598
00:26:31,600 --> 00:26:32,560
Speaker 4: You got to stay up on it.

599
00:26:32,600 --> 00:26:34,440
Speaker 3: If it's what you can do, Can we do it

600
00:26:34,680 --> 00:26:35,639
Speaker 3: on count of three again?

601
00:26:36,119 --> 00:26:40,119
Speaker 2: One two three? Dump him. Our conversation last night shifted

602
00:26:40,160 --> 00:26:44,000
Speaker 2: away from the current issue to larger arguments about a relationship.

603
00:26:44,080 --> 00:26:46,240
Speaker 2: He brought up his accident and I said I haven't

604
00:26:46,240 --> 00:26:50,040
Speaker 2: supported him enough, which was particularly hurtful because during that

605
00:26:50,160 --> 00:26:53,080
Speaker 2: time I poured everything into taking care of him. I

606
00:26:53,200 --> 00:26:55,920
Speaker 2: handled all the logistics, get him to a hospital, talking

607
00:26:55,960 --> 00:26:59,959
Speaker 2: to doctor, sorting out insurance who that's the biggest one,

608
00:27:00,119 --> 00:27:03,560
Speaker 2: right there and even ensuring he ate and took his meds,

609
00:27:03,880 --> 00:27:07,000
Speaker 2: which he needed to. I neglected my own health in

610
00:27:07,080 --> 00:27:11,520
Speaker 2: the process, fainting from exhaustion after going thirty hours without food.

611
00:27:12,000 --> 00:27:15,040
Speaker 2: Despite all this, we did reach a point of agreement

612
00:27:15,240 --> 00:27:19,000
Speaker 2: about installing a camera at home. He was surprisingly chill

613
00:27:19,080 --> 00:27:21,719
Speaker 2: about it, and we both see it as a solution

614
00:27:22,280 --> 00:27:24,879
Speaker 2: not just for the current issue, but also for the

615
00:27:25,000 --> 00:27:27,280
Speaker 2: dog we're planning to get soon. But he's just gonna

616
00:27:27,280 --> 00:27:28,159
Speaker 2: go to her place now.

617
00:27:28,320 --> 00:27:28,439
Speaker 4: Duh.

618
00:27:28,640 --> 00:27:30,760
Speaker 3: If he's cheating, they're just gonna cheat somewhere else.

619
00:27:31,040 --> 00:27:34,040
Speaker 2: This update might not be the dramatic cheating story some

620
00:27:34,200 --> 00:27:37,720
Speaker 2: were expecting. It's not that it's deeper communication issues. We

621
00:27:38,040 --> 00:27:40,639
Speaker 2: ended the night on okay terms, even sleeping in the

622
00:27:40,680 --> 00:27:42,879
Speaker 2: same bed, though I did end up crying alone in

623
00:27:42,960 --> 00:27:45,800
Speaker 2: the living room for two hours. I'm confused and have

624
00:27:45,960 --> 00:27:46,680
Speaker 2: mixed feeling.

625
00:27:46,760 --> 00:27:47,600
Speaker 3: No, you're not okay.

626
00:27:48,000 --> 00:27:50,119
Speaker 2: That didn't end on good terms when you're crying on

627
00:27:50,240 --> 00:27:53,560
Speaker 2: the couch From the outside, I know our relationship might

628
00:27:53,680 --> 00:27:56,800
Speaker 2: look unhealthy, and maybe it is, but relationships are complex.

629
00:27:57,240 --> 00:27:59,960
Speaker 2: I don't expect things to always be sunshines and rainbow.

630
00:28:00,640 --> 00:28:04,000
Speaker 2: There are hard periods in every relationship where people either

631
00:28:04,119 --> 00:28:05,720
Speaker 2: grow together or apart.

632
00:28:05,880 --> 00:28:08,040
Speaker 5: The crux in all of this is that it has

633
00:28:08,359 --> 00:28:11,840
Speaker 5: never been discussed. How did this get here?

634
00:28:12,119 --> 00:28:12,320
Speaker 4: Yeah?

635
00:28:12,480 --> 00:28:14,199
Speaker 2: No, it's always avoided.

636
00:28:14,280 --> 00:28:17,840
Speaker 5: He avoids it with by getting mean, by getting aggressive,

637
00:28:17,960 --> 00:28:22,160
Speaker 5: by going to silent jetments like he can't answer the question,

638
00:28:22,560 --> 00:28:25,200
Speaker 5: and his response to it is very telling.

639
00:28:25,400 --> 00:28:26,120
Speaker 2: Answer the question.

640
00:28:26,400 --> 00:28:28,199
Speaker 3: I'll do a quick psychological breakdown.

641
00:28:28,240 --> 00:28:29,920
Speaker 5: There was a great channel on you for a while

642
00:28:29,960 --> 00:28:33,320
Speaker 5: ago that broke down police interrogations and like the subjects

643
00:28:33,359 --> 00:28:36,040
Speaker 5: that we're in there, and when people are innocent and

644
00:28:36,240 --> 00:28:39,120
Speaker 5: are accused of something they're not guilty of, they don't

645
00:28:39,200 --> 00:28:42,520
Speaker 5: begin being like how dare you do that? They start

646
00:28:42,600 --> 00:28:45,200
Speaker 5: by being like, wait, what's going on? They gather information,

647
00:28:45,240 --> 00:28:48,200
Speaker 5: They're like, you're saying, what what's going on that this,

648
00:28:48,680 --> 00:28:51,440
Speaker 5: So that the response should have immediately been whose hair

649
00:28:51,520 --> 00:28:51,680
Speaker 5: is that?

650
00:28:51,960 --> 00:28:52,440
Speaker 3: You don't know?

651
00:28:52,840 --> 00:28:54,200
Speaker 4: I don't know whose hair is that?

652
00:28:54,520 --> 00:28:57,560
Speaker 5: And then if it continued to be hey, there's this hair,

653
00:28:57,640 --> 00:29:00,160
Speaker 5: it'd be like, okay, yeah, but I've already establish I

654
00:29:00,200 --> 00:29:02,760
Speaker 5: don't know. Then over time it would make sense in

655
00:29:02,880 --> 00:29:05,600
Speaker 5: that context for like more annoyance to surface. But the

656
00:29:05,680 --> 00:29:09,400
Speaker 5: fact that it was there immediately that's a guy who's

657
00:29:09,440 --> 00:29:13,360
Speaker 5: guilty trying to shut down any sort of investigation by

658
00:29:13,520 --> 00:29:13,960
Speaker 5: being like.

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Speaker 3: Oh, just drop this.

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Speaker 2: I'm watching a really interesting podcast that explain stuff like that.

661
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Speaker 2: I'll send it to you. I've read her book. Her

662
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Speaker 2: books amazing.

663
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Speaker 3: I'm gonna shout him out JCS criminal Psychology.

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Speaker 4: Give him a gander.

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Speaker 5: The channel is dead because they can't get monetized anymore

666
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Speaker 5: because things.

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Speaker 6: But it's on YouTube.

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Speaker 2: I'm not looking to make impulse decisions right now. Aside

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Speaker 2: from the fights and communication struggles, we do have a

670
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Speaker 2: happy relationships in many ways, like when he's happy, I'm happy.

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Speaker 6: Huh.

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Speaker 2: He's been a part of my life for four years

673
00:29:41,680 --> 00:29:44,040
Speaker 2: and I don't want to take that lightly. To those

674
00:29:44,080 --> 00:29:46,600
Speaker 2: who suggest I might be sabotaging the relationship due to

675
00:29:46,680 --> 00:29:49,680
Speaker 2: anxiety or depression, that is something I'm reflecting on. I

676
00:29:49,720 --> 00:29:52,320
Speaker 2: appreciate the honesty, even if it's hard to hear. By

677
00:29:52,360 --> 00:29:54,640
Speaker 2: the way, it's never hard to hear. Us go live

678
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Speaker 2: every weekday at three pm PST on YouTube, TikTok, Facebook,

679
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Speaker 2: and Twitch. Go check us out. We're probably live right now.

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Speaker 2: We have a pretty good bit left.

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Speaker 5: But you tell him they gotta tap on her profile.

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Speaker 5: You have to tap in your profile Internet, tap on

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Speaker 5: the profile and then you'll join the live.

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Speaker 2: We do have a lot left. I think it's going

685
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Speaker 2: to be found out that he's cheating. He's definitely cheating.

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Speaker 5: I would be completely shocked if this guy is not cheating,

687
00:30:16,920 --> 00:30:19,240
Speaker 5: especially given the fact that she said that there have

688
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Speaker 5: been problems in the past with an X who is

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Speaker 5: now no longer engaged.

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Speaker 3: Like, where there's smoke, there's fire.

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Speaker 5: You know what I mean, jelly Bean, anyone out there

692
00:30:30,120 --> 00:30:32,680
Speaker 5: watching this going through the Malibu fires right now, Our

693
00:30:32,720 --> 00:30:33,320
Speaker 5: thoughts are with you.

694
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Speaker 2: For those who think I'm the problem or that I'm controlling,

695
00:30:35,840 --> 00:30:38,960
Speaker 2: our relationship allows for plenty of trust and independence. He

696
00:30:39,040 --> 00:30:42,680
Speaker 2: spends time with his friends, follows and likes posts on Instagram,

697
00:30:42,920 --> 00:30:45,920
Speaker 2: and has female friends, all without the issue. For me,

698
00:30:46,200 --> 00:30:48,720
Speaker 2: I don't go through his phone or invade his privacy.

699
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Speaker 2: If I ever have questions or want to see something,

700
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Speaker 2: He's open and shows me voluntarily. Thank you for your

701
00:30:55,800 --> 00:30:58,560
Speaker 2: support and advice. You've given me a lot to think about,

702
00:30:58,600 --> 00:31:01,880
Speaker 2: and I'm grateful for this community relevant comments. Ope also

703
00:31:02,000 --> 00:31:05,200
Speaker 2: mentions the first post she finds them on days she

704
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Speaker 2: has been in the office. Does OP work with anyone

705
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Speaker 2: or sit near anyone with long dark hair, OP No,

706
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Speaker 2: I visit my sister once a week. As someone I've mentioned,

707
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Speaker 2: she just gave birth and is shedding a lot most

708
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Speaker 2: of the time. If I go to the office, I

709
00:31:18,800 --> 00:31:20,920
Speaker 2: stop at her house before I go home. That is

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Speaker 2: the logical justification I've found for the hair, because she

711
00:31:24,600 --> 00:31:28,040
Speaker 2: has the exact same hair type. I'm looking at DNA

712
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Speaker 2: tests the baby.

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Speaker 5: DNA test the hair, just like take a sample from

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Speaker 5: the sister, take a sample from the house, you do

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Speaker 5: a DNA test, use that hair.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, there you go.

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Speaker 2: Coming to two, op did you address the point made

718
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Speaker 2: in the comments to your first post about the hairs

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Speaker 2: that could have been from her sister and brought in

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Speaker 2: by you given you give it frequently. I know a

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Speaker 2: lot of people are jumping to a conclusion about your

722
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Speaker 2: boyfriend's defensiveness, but I can understand someone getting defensive if

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Speaker 2: they are repeatedly accused of being something that has nothing

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Speaker 2: to do with them.

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Speaker 3: That's true. But he was defensive from the very beginning, OPI.

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Speaker 2: That is the reason I did think this way. There

727
00:32:00,680 --> 00:32:02,920
Speaker 2: are two options. If he's guilty or he is not.

728
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Speaker 2: If he is guilty, I will find out sooner rather

729
00:32:05,920 --> 00:32:08,680
Speaker 2: than later with my methods and my friends. If he

730
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Speaker 2: is not well, probably for an innocent person, that would

731
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Speaker 2: be very frustrating. And how can you prove if you

732
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Speaker 2: were not cheating? You can't. You can give him the

733
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Speaker 2: benefit of the doubt until further suspicion and evidence. I

734
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Speaker 2: try to talk about the trust issue we have commedy three.

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Speaker 2: Next time, maybe find out if it's your sister's hair

736
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Speaker 2: before coming to the internet to tell your business to strangers. Ohp,

737
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Speaker 2: he wasn't the point of this form to ask for advice. Sorry,

738
00:32:33,280 --> 00:32:35,600
Speaker 2: but I explained a lot of things here and yes, okay,

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Speaker 2: so they keep talking about the sister.

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Speaker 6: Is that the freaking end?

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Speaker 4: No?

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Speaker 5: No, fuck, there's no way, dude. Okay, So, first of all,

743
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Speaker 5: those comments were kind of dumb. When you are innocent

744
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Speaker 5: and accused of a crime, your first response is not

745
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Speaker 5: immediately being like, what the heck's going on and then

746
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Speaker 5: giving someone this silent treatment. Your first response, if you

747
00:32:55,080 --> 00:32:58,600
Speaker 5: are innocent, would be genuine curiosity and you would want

748
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Speaker 5: to gather more information and say, what is this thing

749
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Speaker 5: that's going on? I don't know anything about it, So

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Speaker 5: where is that long hair? Doesn't your sister have long hair.

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Speaker 4: Could it be hers?

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Speaker 5: But instead it was literally the silent treatment like he's

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Speaker 5: in middle school, which is, you know, a great way

754
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Speaker 5: to not incriminate yourself, don't say anything. So that's my

755
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Speaker 5: two cents. I feel in my soul that this guy

756
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Speaker 5: was cheating on op assume that story.

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Speaker 6: First, my brother is asking us to buy all of

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Speaker 6: their kids toys because we're childless. Now the police are here.

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Speaker 5: Breaker bricker one nine. We got a call of children's

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Speaker 5: toys not being properly accounted for. I don't know where

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Speaker 5: I was going with that call against Santa. My husband

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Speaker 5: has a very large family in total. I think his

765
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Speaker 5: father has eight brothers and sisters. They all got married

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Speaker 5: and had two to six children each. Now all their

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Speaker 5: children are grown up and starting families as well. We're

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Speaker 5: looking at easily. I believe fifteen children in the family.

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Speaker 6: As of right now. Wow, it's a lot us as

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Speaker 6: as a fair amount I.

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Speaker 4: Guess fair amount of children.

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Speaker 6: We all get together for Christmas every year at his

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Speaker 6: grandparents house. Sounds great, right, right, I don't know that's right.

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Speaker 6: Was startning. It was supposed to be like right, right, yeah,

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Speaker 6: I'm threatened by the way this comes from suplux muss

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Speaker 6: or tuffo, uh oh, wait sue soup soup plux mass or.

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Speaker 7: Get the f out sup plux mess or get the

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Speaker 7: f out on.

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Speaker 6: The okay, storytime separate it normally after Thanksgiving or on Thanksgiving,

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Speaker 6: which they also get together for. We pick names for

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Speaker 6: the children's gift swap. There's also a men and women's

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Speaker 6: gift swap which my husband and I, who do not

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Speaker 6: have children, join in on. Husband and I would buy

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Speaker 6: gifts for his parents, his brother and wife, and there

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Speaker 6: are four kids. Great, awesome, works fine, getting a lot

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Speaker 6: of different in uh last year, they said they would

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Speaker 6: rather we just bought gifts for the kids, so we

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Speaker 6: did same thing. We've always gotten them books at their

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Speaker 6: reading level, pj's, and puzzles of some kind. They were upset,

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Speaker 6: but we couldn't place why. We also didn't get any

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Speaker 6: gifts at all, which we didn't comment on, but my

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00:35:20,040 --> 00:35:22,080
Speaker 6: husband admitted he was a bit hurt to get nothing

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Speaker 6: from his parents versus his brothers and his brother and

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Speaker 6: sister in law getting get I am not a super

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Speaker 6: social person, so I spent most of Thanksgiving reading a

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Speaker 6: book and watching one of the youngest cousins sleep. Eventually

797
00:35:33,960 --> 00:35:36,680
Speaker 6: we all gathered up so the kids could draw names

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Speaker 6: of their cousins for the gift swap. They finished that up,

799
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Speaker 6: and then a husband's brother, who will just call Timmy,

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Speaker 6: says an uncle, husband will buy all the kids gift

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Speaker 6: to as in Opie's husband.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, that's isn't it always nice when people tell you

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Speaker 5: what you're gonna do. Yeah, before you, I have heard

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Speaker 5: anything about it, and.

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Speaker 6: Oh I was in aware of this. Oh okay you

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00:35:59,600 --> 00:36:02,320
Speaker 6: my husband and I giving him looks of the F

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Speaker 6: and F you. We laughed and said, oh no, we'll

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00:36:07,200 --> 00:36:10,680
Speaker 6: just be bringing the candy again this year. His brother

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00:36:10,800 --> 00:36:12,560
Speaker 6: then started in that we should buy all of the

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Speaker 6: children gifts since we have none, and that it wasn't

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Speaker 6: very Christian of us to not bless the children with

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Speaker 6: our good fortune. My husband, at this point pulled him

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Speaker 6: aside into the kitchen and told him he wasn't buying

814
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Speaker 6: all of the cousins' gifts and if he wanted to,

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Speaker 6: he was welcome to. They started to argue, and Timmy

816
00:36:30,480 --> 00:36:34,040
Speaker 6: yelled that we shouldn't come to Christmas anymore. I handed

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Speaker 6: over the baby we left, said we'd email them about

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Speaker 6: it later when they calmed down enough to talk like adults.

819
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Speaker 6: I just like someone else's viewpoint. My husband is really upset,

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Speaker 6: and his parents are agreeing with Timmy that we should

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Speaker 6: be giving more gifts since we have no one to

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Speaker 6: buy them for but kids. Down he threw the fact

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Speaker 6: that we get no gifts from anyone at them, and

824
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Speaker 6: they said we're adults now and Christmas is for kids.

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Speaker 6: He pointed out they gifted Timmy and his wife things,

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Speaker 6: but they said that we'd already bought it might as well.

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Speaker 4: Well, But I haven't shopping as well.

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Speaker 6: But I have been shopping with his mother and she

829
00:37:09,840 --> 00:37:13,280
Speaker 6: bought gifts, and she bought gifts for Timmy's wife Candy

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Speaker 6: again this year already. So all of the other adults

831
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Speaker 6: are getting gifts except for Opie and Obie Sezmund seems.

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Speaker 6: I'm frustrated and feel like no one is handling any

833
00:37:24,080 --> 00:37:26,360
Speaker 6: of this well, and I want to step in and

834
00:37:26,480 --> 00:37:28,600
Speaker 6: help my husband, but I want someone else to look

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Speaker 6: at this mess before I do, before I do anything

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Speaker 6: other than listen and offer suggestions of using I feel

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Speaker 6: blank when you blank to his parents update one, so

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Speaker 6: I'm not one hundred percent sure where I should start.

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Speaker 6: I am about three drinks in just to calm myself.

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Speaker 6: For one, I did show my husband the post. After

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00:37:47,880 --> 00:37:51,520
Speaker 6: we talked. I brought up tea day twenty fifteen and

842
00:37:51,680 --> 00:37:54,040
Speaker 6: asked him if he wanted some more input than I

843
00:37:54,120 --> 00:37:57,840
Speaker 6: normally give on his family drama. He said yes. I

844
00:37:57,960 --> 00:38:00,400
Speaker 6: pointed out the favoritism of his brother over him in

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Speaker 6: almost anything. I made a list showing times when it

846
00:38:03,840 --> 00:38:07,080
Speaker 6: happened where they were and he were fully in the wrong.

847
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Speaker 6: Just to prove the point, we went over the text

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Speaker 6: from his brother, sister in law, mother, father, aunt, and cousin.

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Speaker 6: Just to recap the names. Brother, Timmy, sister in law Candy,

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Speaker 6: mother Ronda, father Keith, aunt Kira, cousin Ben, husband Todd.

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Speaker 6: This is shorter than husband. I'm lazy. God. So the

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Speaker 6: problem people were like Timmy last time, right, Timmy and

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Speaker 6: Candy Candy. They wanted all those presents for their kids.

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Speaker 5: Timmy loves Candy and they wanted Sorry, I just needed

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Speaker 5: to say Timmy loves Candy, but yeah, they were. They

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Speaker 5: were the ones that were being like, so what they

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Speaker 5: signed up to buy everybody presents because they're childless.

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Speaker 6: So the day I posted after we went over the

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Speaker 6: text which started after we missed their call and went

860
00:38:55,560 --> 00:38:59,040
Speaker 6: up until we sent the email, all just spiteful crap

861
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Speaker 6: about how we made wasted our money, time and life

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Speaker 6: volunteering and don't spend enough time with their children, cousins,

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00:39:05,960 --> 00:39:10,480
Speaker 6: cousins children, family anymore. It started out telling Todd he

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Speaker 6: was being a candy a b who is whipped by

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Speaker 6: his cold, harpy, child hating wife. Who started, yes, who

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Speaker 6: started that?

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Speaker 5: It sounds like like my initial theory was these people

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Speaker 5: just like have a problem with you, guys.

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Speaker 6: They hate you. They hate you because you don't have

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Speaker 6: the same lifestyle as them, and that's the only lifestyle

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Speaker 6: that they understand.

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Speaker 3: Which is I don't have fifteen children. We don't think

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Speaker 3: h person.

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Speaker 6: That is insane that it started out with the family

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Speaker 6: telling him he was a candy butt b word, also

876
00:39:48,719 --> 00:39:52,440
Speaker 6: just using what who was whipped by his cold, harpy,

877
00:39:52,560 --> 00:39:56,960
Speaker 6: child hating wife. Dang man, guys, if you just hate

878
00:39:57,040 --> 00:39:58,200
Speaker 6: people because she just wanted to kids.

879
00:39:58,320 --> 00:39:59,920
Speaker 4: If you're broke, just say so, guys.

880
00:40:00,080 --> 00:40:04,960
Speaker 6: Literally, and just degraded from there Todd only sent back

881
00:40:05,040 --> 00:40:07,319
Speaker 6: a few saying he'd email him about it and asked

882
00:40:07,400 --> 00:40:10,320
Speaker 6: him not to talk about me. So we sent the email.

883
00:40:10,520 --> 00:40:14,840
Speaker 6: Here's basically what we sent, semi edited. Todd sent it

884
00:40:15,040 --> 00:40:17,160
Speaker 6: as if it was just from him. We almost added

885
00:40:17,239 --> 00:40:19,680
Speaker 6: in his parents, but decided we just forward it to them.

886
00:40:19,760 --> 00:40:23,240
Speaker 6: If it got really out of hand, no problem. Timmy

887
00:40:23,400 --> 00:40:24,560
Speaker 6: did it for him.

888
00:40:24,640 --> 00:40:25,880
Speaker 4: Oh, I'm so thoughtful, Timmy.

889
00:40:26,040 --> 00:40:30,399
Speaker 6: Thank you Timmy for exposing yourself. Yes, well, that went

890
00:40:30,480 --> 00:40:32,600
Speaker 6: over about as well as water on a grease fire.

891
00:40:33,239 --> 00:40:33,600
Speaker 4: For one.

892
00:40:33,840 --> 00:40:37,440
Speaker 6: Timmy forded the email to Ronda and Keith, Kira and Bend.

893
00:40:38,080 --> 00:40:39,600
Speaker 6: That was rude, but we were going to do the

894
00:40:39,640 --> 00:40:42,479
Speaker 6: same thing either way. Ben sent us an email letting

895
00:40:42,560 --> 00:40:44,880
Speaker 6: us know what Timmy did and said he was sorry

896
00:40:45,000 --> 00:40:47,440
Speaker 6: he wasn't there to jump in, but would try and

897
00:40:47,640 --> 00:40:50,840
Speaker 6: talk to Timmy. Timmy and Ben are actually really close,

898
00:40:50,880 --> 00:40:52,759
Speaker 6: so it was nice to see he thought Timmy was

899
00:40:52,800 --> 00:40:56,440
Speaker 6: being unreasonable as well, since they are normally very close.

900
00:40:56,600 --> 00:40:59,800
Speaker 6: Slash like mind it. I'm not going to put his email.

901
00:41:00,280 --> 00:41:02,279
Speaker 6: I'm just going to highlight what he said and then

902
00:41:02,320 --> 00:41:04,760
Speaker 6: tell you what Keith and Ronda said in their email.

903
00:41:04,880 --> 00:41:08,920
Speaker 6: Slash visit one. I am a cold child hating harpye

904
00:41:08,960 --> 00:41:11,160
Speaker 6: and I sleep around. Dang.

905
00:41:11,320 --> 00:41:13,280
Speaker 4: That is just people.

906
00:41:13,719 --> 00:41:15,400
Speaker 2: It's for you.

907
00:41:15,760 --> 00:41:17,880
Speaker 5: They hate you like, they hate you so much it

908
00:41:18,120 --> 00:41:21,040
Speaker 5: makes me question, like, what did you do? Like and

909
00:41:21,120 --> 00:41:23,080
Speaker 5: not that you did anything. No, it's just like, but

910
00:41:23,200 --> 00:41:26,440
Speaker 5: it's so much hate, I feel like it needs a source.

911
00:41:26,760 --> 00:41:29,879
Speaker 6: Yeah. Yeah, I'm an atheist and this is too. I'm

912
00:41:29,880 --> 00:41:33,640
Speaker 6: an atheist or Muslim or something. He never really kicked. Three.

913
00:41:33,840 --> 00:41:37,359
Speaker 6: I am dragging Todd from the church and his family. Four.

914
00:41:37,600 --> 00:41:40,040
Speaker 6: We don't spend any time at all with the family anymore.

915
00:41:40,120 --> 00:41:43,399
Speaker 6: We never spend any time with our nibblings. Number six,

916
00:41:43,680 --> 00:41:48,160
Speaker 6: we are wasting our lifetime money volunteering with animals. Uh

917
00:41:48,680 --> 00:41:52,960
Speaker 6: maybe Number seven helping Slash wanting to help refugees was

918
00:41:53,040 --> 00:41:56,640
Speaker 6: un American. Don't be wanting to help refugees. It is

919
00:41:56,680 --> 00:41:58,840
Speaker 6: not an American And this is my fault since I

920
00:41:58,920 --> 00:42:01,759
Speaker 6: am a first generation American and don't understand what it

921
00:42:01,840 --> 00:42:03,879
Speaker 6: means to be one. Slash deserve to live there.

922
00:42:04,000 --> 00:42:07,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, these people, these people just suck really bad. These

923
00:42:07,160 --> 00:42:11,080
Speaker 3: people are just like just I don't know.

924
00:42:11,440 --> 00:42:15,239
Speaker 5: Sometimes a broke clock isn't right at all because the

925
00:42:15,360 --> 00:42:17,919
Speaker 5: hands on the clock are also even there, they can't

926
00:42:17,920 --> 00:42:18,760
Speaker 5: even tell time.

927
00:42:19,600 --> 00:42:22,399
Speaker 6: I'm rude and never talk to them unless it's about

928
00:42:22,480 --> 00:42:26,800
Speaker 6: animal rescue a slash animal rights. Yeah, so at this

929
00:42:26,880 --> 00:42:29,200
Speaker 6: point we're kind of laughing and kind of crying and

930
00:42:29,360 --> 00:42:31,920
Speaker 6: kind of shocked. We spent the rest of the day

931
00:42:32,040 --> 00:42:34,440
Speaker 6: cleaning up our house and talking about what we wanted

932
00:42:34,440 --> 00:42:38,800
Speaker 6: to do. Slash reply back. We hadn't checked our email,

933
00:42:38,920 --> 00:42:41,239
Speaker 6: and we'd stuck our phones on vibrate and we were

934
00:42:41,360 --> 00:42:44,040
Speaker 6: just trying to endure our enjoy our day off together.

935
00:42:44,680 --> 00:42:49,440
Speaker 6: They're pretty rare, sadly, so surprise, his parents drove all

936
00:42:49,600 --> 00:42:52,080
Speaker 6: the way out to talk to us. I say talk,

937
00:42:52,239 --> 00:42:54,920
Speaker 6: but it was more like being talked at. They asked

938
00:42:54,920 --> 00:42:56,839
Speaker 6: me to leave so they could talk to Todd about

939
00:42:56,880 --> 00:43:00,800
Speaker 6: his actions slash rude email. Todd said no, said I

940
00:43:01,000 --> 00:43:03,240
Speaker 6: was his family and his wife and we were handling

941
00:43:03,320 --> 00:43:03,960
Speaker 6: this together.

942
00:43:04,440 --> 00:43:04,799
Speaker 4: I love.

943
00:43:05,160 --> 00:43:06,520
Speaker 5: I just love how they were like, we need to

944
00:43:06,560 --> 00:43:10,520
Speaker 5: talk to him about his rude emails. You you cold heartless,

945
00:43:10,920 --> 00:43:15,680
Speaker 5: hearpy witch. Let us talk to your husband. Literally, he's rude.

946
00:43:16,400 --> 00:43:18,840
Speaker 6: They then tried to convince us we had said f

947
00:43:19,520 --> 00:43:22,080
Speaker 6: in front of the family. We didn't that we had

948
00:43:22,160 --> 00:43:24,560
Speaker 6: mentioned buying gifts for everyone before that we didn't love

949
00:43:24,680 --> 00:43:27,279
Speaker 6: Jesus anymore since we hadn't been going to church and

950
00:43:27,440 --> 00:43:29,440
Speaker 6: some of what Timmy had sent in the email too.

951
00:43:29,960 --> 00:43:32,560
Speaker 6: When his father started to insult me and then in turn,

952
00:43:32,680 --> 00:43:36,279
Speaker 6: my father, Todd was done. He stood up and said,

953
00:43:36,360 --> 00:43:38,279
Speaker 6: thank you for coming to visit us in our home

954
00:43:38,360 --> 00:43:40,600
Speaker 6: for the first time, but we have parents to run

955
00:43:40,760 --> 00:43:41,759
Speaker 6: and you need to leave now.

956
00:43:42,800 --> 00:43:44,960
Speaker 3: Oh, I see where it's going.

957
00:43:45,280 --> 00:43:48,880
Speaker 6: They love you. He told them they had to go

958
00:43:49,600 --> 00:43:54,560
Speaker 6: now or he'd have to call the police. Todd's not

959
00:43:54,760 --> 00:44:00,160
Speaker 6: letting this slide. They left. He cried, I cried. Our

960
00:44:00,239 --> 00:44:01,560
Speaker 6: cats knocked over their cups.

961
00:44:01,560 --> 00:44:04,799
Speaker 5: Okay, well, now after the crewed, after the crying line,

962
00:44:04,840 --> 00:44:07,560
Speaker 5: I feel a little weird for having clapped and smiled.

963
00:44:07,880 --> 00:44:10,600
Speaker 6: Well yeah, but because we thought the bad people were going.

964
00:44:10,440 --> 00:44:12,480
Speaker 4: To they were going to go to the police station.

965
00:44:13,360 --> 00:44:17,520
Speaker 6: But the cats knocked over the bad vibes in the parents' cups.

966
00:44:18,160 --> 00:44:19,560
Speaker 7: The glass was not half full.

967
00:44:19,680 --> 00:44:19,719
Speaker 4: No.

968
00:44:20,680 --> 00:44:23,040
Speaker 6: We ended up calling my dad and telling him everything,

969
00:44:23,120 --> 00:44:26,319
Speaker 6: as well as showing him both emails. He told us

970
00:44:26,560 --> 00:44:30,440
Speaker 6: they have talked Crab about us before. To him, you

971
00:44:30,560 --> 00:44:33,200
Speaker 6: should be able to fix your child. Still, we're working

972
00:44:33,280 --> 00:44:36,920
Speaker 6: on ours. Wait, what you should be able to fix

973
00:44:37,000 --> 00:44:38,759
Speaker 6: your child? Still we're working on ours.

974
00:44:39,080 --> 00:44:42,640
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, we're still working on We're still working on ours.

975
00:44:43,040 --> 00:44:43,239
Speaker 5: Yeah.

976
00:44:43,600 --> 00:44:44,400
Speaker 2: You can't fix them.

977
00:44:44,480 --> 00:44:47,120
Speaker 6: You can't fix them, was something he told us had

978
00:44:47,160 --> 00:44:50,600
Speaker 6: been said. We decided we aren't going to their Christmas

979
00:44:50,719 --> 00:44:53,719
Speaker 6: either way. I told Todd, I can't go back there again,

980
00:44:54,000 --> 00:44:56,200
Speaker 6: nor can I look at any of them the same again.

981
00:44:57,040 --> 00:44:59,040
Speaker 6: I knew they'd always not liked me as much as

982
00:44:59,080 --> 00:45:01,040
Speaker 6: some of the other daughter in but I didn't know

983
00:45:01,120 --> 00:45:04,200
Speaker 6: it was to that extent. They have always been nice

984
00:45:04,239 --> 00:45:06,920
Speaker 6: and polite to my face, invited and included me in

985
00:45:07,000 --> 00:45:10,520
Speaker 6: all events. No one had ever said anything to Todd either.

986
00:45:11,640 --> 00:45:14,000
Speaker 6: As it stands, I am waiting for my dad and

987
00:45:14,160 --> 00:45:16,480
Speaker 6: brother to get into town and them were gonna sit

988
00:45:16,600 --> 00:45:19,960
Speaker 6: down and decide what we would like to do. Todd

989
00:45:20,080 --> 00:45:22,640
Speaker 6: said he just wants it to be small and doesn't

990
00:45:22,680 --> 00:45:26,440
Speaker 6: mind where Christmas happens, and said he felt closer to

991
00:45:26,560 --> 00:45:30,120
Speaker 6: my dad and brother anyway. We told Ben what happened

992
00:45:30,239 --> 00:45:33,120
Speaker 6: and shipped his gift off him. I haven't decided yet

993
00:45:33,160 --> 00:45:35,200
Speaker 6: what I will do with the Nibblings gifts, but I've

994
00:45:35,200 --> 00:45:39,080
Speaker 6: already donated all of the adult gifts. So he had

995
00:45:39,160 --> 00:45:42,600
Speaker 6: gifts for everyone. I think that's the funniest part. That's

996
00:45:42,680 --> 00:45:47,000
Speaker 6: the trade had gifts for everyone, and just the fact

997
00:45:47,040 --> 00:45:48,320
Speaker 6: that they were all demanding.

998
00:45:48,400 --> 00:45:52,520
Speaker 5: They rooted them out of existence for being so stinky

999
00:45:52,640 --> 00:45:54,320
Speaker 5: and stinky key bad people.

1000
00:45:54,400 --> 00:45:55,360
Speaker 6: And there is another update.

1001
00:45:56,280 --> 00:46:00,960
Speaker 5: But yeah, your families, I mean, like how hard would

1002
00:46:01,000 --> 00:46:04,600
Speaker 5: it have been to cause you know, I can understand

1003
00:46:04,719 --> 00:46:07,920
Speaker 5: if you're from a family that like heavily emphasizes like

1004
00:46:08,080 --> 00:46:10,960
Speaker 5: traditional family values and like you know you want it,

1005
00:46:11,120 --> 00:46:14,400
Speaker 5: Like there's an emphasis on having kids, there's an emphasis

1006
00:46:14,480 --> 00:46:17,360
Speaker 5: on like, you know, doing things like buy the book

1007
00:46:17,600 --> 00:46:18,160
Speaker 5: so to speak.

1008
00:46:18,280 --> 00:46:20,760
Speaker 3: Right, there's not necessarily.

1009
00:46:20,320 --> 00:46:23,320
Speaker 5: Anything inherently wrong with that, but like if you're gonna

1010
00:46:23,840 --> 00:46:27,440
Speaker 5: be like I don't know, like you're like plotting against

1011
00:46:27,560 --> 00:46:31,879
Speaker 5: Ope and her husband because they don't have kids when

1012
00:46:31,920 --> 00:46:34,920
Speaker 5: you could have just if you would presented it as

1013
00:46:34,960 --> 00:46:37,239
Speaker 5: a way where it's like, hey, you know what would

1014
00:46:37,280 --> 00:46:39,040
Speaker 5: be a great way to get all the kids to

1015
00:46:39,120 --> 00:46:41,520
Speaker 5: be like, oh, these are the fun and and the

1016
00:46:41,680 --> 00:46:45,920
Speaker 5: fun uncle, get all of the kids gifts. They don't

1017
00:46:45,960 --> 00:46:48,560
Speaker 5: have to be huge, but something maybe like for us,

1018
00:46:48,640 --> 00:46:51,040
Speaker 5: it was always like nerf stuff. It's like all the

1019
00:46:51,200 --> 00:46:53,920
Speaker 5: like cousins and all everyone like at the you know,

1020
00:46:54,000 --> 00:46:56,320
Speaker 5: at the family events. Now we're all playing around it,

1021
00:46:56,440 --> 00:46:59,440
Speaker 5: and you know, it's a bonding moment if you approach

1022
00:46:59,520 --> 00:47:02,200
Speaker 5: that with the correct way, like a conversation.

1023
00:47:03,719 --> 00:47:06,440
Speaker 6: But yeah, I think, I mean, they definitely could have

1024
00:47:06,480 --> 00:47:08,600
Speaker 6: asked in a better way and they didn't, And now

1025
00:47:09,560 --> 00:47:13,400
Speaker 6: uh Opie and her husband hate them because they freaking saw.

1026
00:47:13,239 --> 00:47:15,200
Speaker 3: It's all about presentation, folks.

1027
00:47:15,840 --> 00:47:18,560
Speaker 6: My friend Sandy grew up near me. We've been friends

1028
00:47:18,600 --> 00:47:20,920
Speaker 6: for years and she became friends with Timmy and his

1029
00:47:21,000 --> 00:47:24,360
Speaker 6: wife too. They are friends together on Facebook. We had

1030
00:47:24,440 --> 00:47:27,160
Speaker 6: told her that there was a tiff, but didn't elaborate

1031
00:47:27,280 --> 00:47:32,080
Speaker 6: to not damage the friendship. Big mistake, No, since she

1032
00:47:32,280 --> 00:47:35,440
Speaker 6: tagged us in her woo look at my gift QQ

1033
00:47:36,239 --> 00:47:40,239
Speaker 6: my friend is leaving me for Xmas post what QQ

1034
00:47:40,560 --> 00:47:40,759
Speaker 6: is like?

1035
00:47:40,960 --> 00:47:44,280
Speaker 3: That's that's a cry. That's like an old school crying emoji.

1036
00:47:44,239 --> 00:47:50,400
Speaker 5: Ah eye shout out to all my fellow old people

1037
00:47:51,920 --> 00:47:54,920
Speaker 5: who remember the world before emojis existed.

1038
00:47:55,560 --> 00:47:58,120
Speaker 6: Okay, the photo is of the two of us drinking

1039
00:47:58,280 --> 00:48:01,279
Speaker 6: while dancing around her new umba. I will note this

1040
00:48:01,440 --> 00:48:04,880
Speaker 6: isn't just for Christmas, it's for her Christmas birthday and

1041
00:48:05,040 --> 00:48:07,440
Speaker 6: her wedding, as well as a housewarring gift. You really

1042
00:48:07,480 --> 00:48:10,560
Speaker 6: packed it all together. Her and her soon to be husband,

1043
00:48:10,640 --> 00:48:13,320
Speaker 6: Bill just bought a new townhouse near us. I normally

1044
00:48:13,360 --> 00:48:17,480
Speaker 6: wouldn't buy something that expensive just for Christmas. So Timmy

1045
00:48:17,880 --> 00:48:21,840
Speaker 6: saw the post. Not only did he take offense to

1046
00:48:21,960 --> 00:48:24,800
Speaker 6: us drinking. None of them drink slash are against drinking.

1047
00:48:25,400 --> 00:48:28,600
Speaker 6: He really flipped his lid about her getting a roomba.

1048
00:48:29,760 --> 00:48:31,560
Speaker 4: Holy were you drinking?

1049
00:48:31,719 --> 00:48:32,960
Speaker 6: But you have a roomba.

1050
00:48:33,880 --> 00:48:37,960
Speaker 3: You're taking away of jobs from all the vacuum manufacturers.

1051
00:48:38,640 --> 00:48:41,000
Speaker 6: He lost his crap in the comments and then showed

1052
00:48:41,080 --> 00:48:43,960
Speaker 6: up at our apartment. I was in the shower when

1053
00:48:44,000 --> 00:48:46,839
Speaker 6: Timmy showed up. I heard someone knocking on the door,

1054
00:48:46,920 --> 00:48:49,120
Speaker 6: which had to be pretty loud to hear it all

1055
00:48:49,280 --> 00:48:53,160
Speaker 6: the way in the m the master bedroom shower. I

1056
00:48:53,239 --> 00:48:56,400
Speaker 6: finished the shower around midway through Todd and Tim fighting.

1057
00:48:56,960 --> 00:48:59,600
Speaker 6: Todd said he was beating the door down. He opened

1058
00:48:59,600 --> 00:49:02,240
Speaker 6: the door and refuse to let Tim in any further

1059
00:49:02,360 --> 00:49:05,319
Speaker 6: than the hallway. Tim was yelling at him about the gift,

1060
00:49:05,480 --> 00:49:08,200
Speaker 6: about his lack of church going, about us going out

1061
00:49:08,200 --> 00:49:11,680
Speaker 6: of town, demanding his kids gifts. I donate them and

1062
00:49:11,880 --> 00:49:14,560
Speaker 6: asking where we got off buying such a pricey gift

1063
00:49:14,680 --> 00:49:17,960
Speaker 6: for someone who isn't related and being selfish a holes

1064
00:49:18,000 --> 00:49:22,160
Speaker 6: about gifting the other children. Mm, that is not the

1065
00:49:22,200 --> 00:49:23,320
Speaker 6: way to get presents.

1066
00:49:23,760 --> 00:49:24,800
Speaker 4: No, it's not.

1067
00:49:26,320 --> 00:49:28,920
Speaker 7: Yeah, yeah's Santa's an autyglost.

1068
00:49:28,560 --> 00:49:31,200
Speaker 3: You're getting You're getting some hot colds for Christmas.

1069
00:49:31,400 --> 00:49:33,000
Speaker 7: You're getting reindeer poop, brother.

1070
00:49:34,040 --> 00:49:39,680
Speaker 6: Steing rain, so around them. So around this point, I

1071
00:49:39,760 --> 00:49:42,200
Speaker 6: came out of the shower after putting on pj's it's

1072
00:49:42,280 --> 00:49:45,600
Speaker 6: nearly one am. Girl, Why are you taking a shower

1073
00:49:45,640 --> 00:49:50,680
Speaker 6: at one am? Whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa? Hey, shower

1074
00:49:50,760 --> 00:49:51,200
Speaker 6: at one am?

1075
00:49:51,360 --> 00:49:53,520
Speaker 5: You don't take a late night shower once in a

1076
00:49:53,640 --> 00:49:56,520
Speaker 5: blue moon, because it's just what needs to be done.

1077
00:49:56,719 --> 00:49:58,759
Speaker 6: Only if I've gone to a party and like people

1078
00:49:58,880 --> 00:50:02,840
Speaker 6: smoked there and I smell like smoke, that's the only no.

1079
00:50:03,239 --> 00:50:03,520
Speaker 6: I mean.

1080
00:50:03,840 --> 00:50:07,840
Speaker 5: But people, Well, I went out last night and I

1081
00:50:08,040 --> 00:50:10,759
Speaker 5: danced so hard it looked like I had ran a triathlon.

1082
00:50:10,920 --> 00:50:13,120
Speaker 3: So I had to shower at two am last night.

1083
00:50:13,280 --> 00:50:15,680
Speaker 6: Yeah, well that's different in this case. It just seems

1084
00:50:15,719 --> 00:50:17,200
Speaker 6: like she showers at one am.

1085
00:50:17,280 --> 00:50:19,760
Speaker 7: Maybe she just wants to take a night shower anyway,

1086
00:50:20,400 --> 00:50:20,960
Speaker 7: I came.

1087
00:50:20,800 --> 00:50:24,080
Speaker 6: Out to see Timmy I kind of shocked. Todd tells

1088
00:50:24,160 --> 00:50:26,080
Speaker 6: Tim it's late and we can talk about this when

1089
00:50:26,120 --> 00:50:29,920
Speaker 6: we get back from holiday with the pastor. He pushes Todd.

1090
00:50:30,239 --> 00:50:33,759
Speaker 6: Todd falls back into the wall, putting a dent into it. Whoah,

1091
00:50:34,120 --> 00:50:36,200
Speaker 6: this woke my dad in THEO. Who's THEO?

1092
00:50:38,480 --> 00:50:39,120
Speaker 4: Who is THEO?

1093
00:50:39,400 --> 00:50:40,319
Speaker 5: Wait? Wait?

1094
00:50:40,400 --> 00:50:43,160
Speaker 6: I think okay. I moved in front of Todd since

1095
00:50:43,280 --> 00:50:46,160
Speaker 6: to Tim was pulling back to hit him. He hit me,

1096
00:50:46,600 --> 00:50:49,760
Speaker 6: knocking me down on top of Todd. Dad and THEO

1097
00:50:49,920 --> 00:50:52,759
Speaker 6: restrained him. Our next door neighbor was woken up and

1098
00:50:53,000 --> 00:50:57,560
Speaker 6: called nine one one. Cops showed up, separated all of us.

1099
00:50:57,760 --> 00:51:00,359
Speaker 6: We told them what had happened, didn't tell the about

1100
00:51:00,360 --> 00:51:02,799
Speaker 6: the other problems. Shortened it up to there had been

1101
00:51:02,840 --> 00:51:06,600
Speaker 6: a Christmas disagreement. They also called an ambulance since Todd

1102
00:51:06,680 --> 00:51:08,480
Speaker 6: cut his arm on a dish that broke, and my

1103
00:51:08,600 --> 00:51:10,120
Speaker 6: face was quickly turning purple.

1104
00:51:10,200 --> 00:51:11,000
Speaker 4: Oh my gosh.

1105
00:51:11,760 --> 00:51:15,040
Speaker 6: The ems who showed up no Todd and were very

1106
00:51:15,160 --> 00:51:18,239
Speaker 6: upset about him and I being hurt. The cops asked

1107
00:51:18,320 --> 00:51:20,520
Speaker 6: us if we wanted to press charges. I started to

1108
00:51:20,600 --> 00:51:22,680
Speaker 6: say no, Todd said yes.

1109
00:51:22,600 --> 00:51:25,440
Speaker 3: Yeah, absolutely say yes, don't say no face.

1110
00:51:26,480 --> 00:51:29,439
Speaker 6: So Tim was arrested. We went to the er since

1111
00:51:29,560 --> 00:51:32,799
Speaker 6: Todd needed some stitches. Our phones have been blowing up

1112
00:51:32,840 --> 00:51:35,840
Speaker 6: ever since I turned mine off. After I told Sandy

1113
00:51:35,920 --> 00:51:38,239
Speaker 6: she needed to not let Tim and Candy see any

1114
00:51:38,320 --> 00:51:42,680
Speaker 6: posts about us since they're pissed, she said, okay. I

1115
00:51:42,800 --> 00:51:46,640
Speaker 6: went though an unfriended slash grouped anyone who was also

1116
00:51:46,680 --> 00:51:50,080
Speaker 6: friends with any in law family into a restricted group

1117
00:51:50,239 --> 00:51:52,680
Speaker 6: so they can't see anything we're up to. Again. I

1118
00:51:52,840 --> 00:51:56,560
Speaker 6: hope Roda and Keith have been blowing up Tod's phone

1119
00:51:56,760 --> 00:51:59,440
Speaker 6: and he only answered them in texts with what happened,

1120
00:52:00,040 --> 00:52:02,279
Speaker 6: that we would not drop charges or pay his bail,

1121
00:52:02,400 --> 00:52:07,280
Speaker 6: and to stop contacting us at all. W Yeah. Between

1122
00:52:07,360 --> 00:52:09,560
Speaker 6: the last update and this one, we had talked to

1123
00:52:09,640 --> 00:52:12,040
Speaker 6: some other family members and they all said they disagreed

1124
00:52:12,080 --> 00:52:15,120
Speaker 6: with Timmy. His grandparents said they did too, but that

1125
00:52:15,280 --> 00:52:18,279
Speaker 6: they couldn't host the Christmas and couldn't stop him from

1126
00:52:18,360 --> 00:52:21,440
Speaker 6: uninviting us. They said they would talk to him, and

1127
00:52:21,640 --> 00:52:24,120
Speaker 6: we were like, okay, cool, maybe by next year we

1128
00:52:24,200 --> 00:52:27,279
Speaker 6: can be friends again. Friends with Tim.

1129
00:52:27,760 --> 00:52:30,839
Speaker 4: Yeah, wait, what you like send him to jail? Don't

1130
00:52:31,040 --> 00:52:31,560
Speaker 4: rightfully so?

1131
00:52:31,800 --> 00:52:33,000
Speaker 6: But don't be friends with him.

1132
00:52:33,080 --> 00:52:36,480
Speaker 4: I hope that we're not talking about Tim.

1133
00:52:36,600 --> 00:52:39,440
Speaker 6: I hope not. That isn't the case anymore at all.

1134
00:52:39,719 --> 00:52:41,040
Speaker 6: There is no coming back.

1135
00:52:41,560 --> 00:52:44,560
Speaker 3: Maybe we are talking about Tim, So yeah, don't go back.

1136
00:52:45,400 --> 00:52:46,120
Speaker 4: He's beyond.

1137
00:52:46,800 --> 00:52:50,360
Speaker 3: He's in the black hole. He is Oh okay spaghetti.

1138
00:52:50,960 --> 00:52:54,879
Speaker 6: Basically, opis saying that before the police stuff happened with Tim,

1139
00:52:55,719 --> 00:53:00,040
Speaker 6: they had originally talked about, you know, talk to some

1140
00:53:00,160 --> 00:53:04,480
Speaker 6: other family members who disagree with Tim, and said that

1141
00:53:04,520 --> 00:53:06,400
Speaker 6: they were still going to like host Christmas and stuff,

1142
00:53:06,480 --> 00:53:07,200
Speaker 6: or they couldn't host.

1143
00:53:07,239 --> 00:53:09,799
Speaker 5: But they're like, we'll figure it out at some point,

1144
00:53:09,880 --> 00:53:12,840
Speaker 5: maybe we'll let this go. But now he's like, no,

1145
00:53:13,400 --> 00:53:16,759
Speaker 5: Now we're throwing him in jail by the way, belongs

1146
00:53:17,239 --> 00:53:19,240
Speaker 5: what where he belongs, which is jail.

1147
00:53:19,120 --> 00:53:21,480
Speaker 6: By the way, you guys belong with us every weekday

1148
00:53:21,520 --> 00:53:25,200
Speaker 6: three PSD on YouTube, stap our boot file, also TikTok and.

1149
00:53:25,440 --> 00:53:29,640
Speaker 4: Facebook, TikTok, Facebook, Twitch, We're there. We're there every weekday

1150
00:53:31,239 --> 00:53:32,759
Speaker 4: and if you're watching this in the future, we might

1151
00:53:32,800 --> 00:53:34,360
Speaker 4: be there. We might be live right.

1152
00:53:34,280 --> 00:53:37,600
Speaker 3: Now, so go check right after this because we do

1153
00:53:37,680 --> 00:53:38,879
Speaker 3: have a little bit of story left.

1154
00:53:39,280 --> 00:53:42,160
Speaker 6: It's true, we'll be filing a restraining order. When we

1155
00:53:42,239 --> 00:53:44,600
Speaker 6: get home, Todd is talking about us moving out of

1156
00:53:44,640 --> 00:53:48,759
Speaker 6: our home state. Wow, Dad and THEO who's THEO? Think

1157
00:53:48,960 --> 00:53:50,120
Speaker 6: this is a good idea.

1158
00:53:50,960 --> 00:53:54,920
Speaker 4: We need the whiteboard, We need the whiteboard. We do,

1159
00:53:55,520 --> 00:53:56,920
Speaker 4: I'll wipe that off today.

1160
00:53:57,320 --> 00:53:59,359
Speaker 6: Dad is annoyed that I wouldn't let him hit Tim,

1161
00:54:01,640 --> 00:54:03,640
Speaker 6: so he's sulking a bit. But I think it's more.

1162
00:54:04,840 --> 00:54:06,480
Speaker 6: I think theo's maybe Ope's brother.

1163
00:54:08,520 --> 00:54:09,279
Speaker 4: I couldn't say.

1164
00:54:09,880 --> 00:54:12,040
Speaker 3: There are a lot of names that got thrown after

1165
00:54:12,120 --> 00:54:13,200
Speaker 3: that second update.

1166
00:54:13,200 --> 00:54:14,880
Speaker 6: But I think it's more that he's upset that we

1167
00:54:14,960 --> 00:54:19,719
Speaker 6: have lost another family basically, so, yeah, I get to

1168
00:54:19,880 --> 00:54:23,000
Speaker 6: enjoy my trip with black eye slash cheek Todd as

1169
00:54:23,000 --> 00:54:25,320
Speaker 6: a four inch gash on his arm. Dad is sulking,

1170
00:54:25,440 --> 00:54:28,360
Speaker 6: and THEO is happy since he's smoking pot. So a

1171
00:54:28,520 --> 00:54:30,319
Speaker 6: plus Christmas woo.

1172
00:54:31,360 --> 00:54:31,560
Speaker 4: Yeah.

1173
00:54:31,600 --> 00:54:33,319
Speaker 6: I think THEO is Opie's brother.

1174
00:54:33,520 --> 00:54:33,719
Speaker 5: Yeah.

1175
00:54:33,760 --> 00:54:33,960
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1176
00:54:33,960 --> 00:54:36,200
Speaker 6: And she was saying that her brother and her dad

1177
00:54:36,239 --> 00:54:39,960
Speaker 6: were staying at their house when Tim showed up, and

1178
00:54:40,440 --> 00:54:42,520
Speaker 6: that's yeah, and all the problems are with her in laws.

1179
00:54:43,840 --> 00:54:46,880
Speaker 3: Yeah, so never contacts Tim again.

1180
00:54:47,040 --> 00:54:48,200
Speaker 6: No, that's over.

1181
00:54:49,160 --> 00:54:52,200
Speaker 5: If anybody tries to put the blame for this situation

1182
00:54:52,360 --> 00:54:55,360
Speaker 5: on you kindly refer them to the guy who's in

1183
00:54:55,680 --> 00:54:57,040
Speaker 5: jail right now to.

1184
00:54:57,120 --> 00:54:59,839
Speaker 6: Send them the police report and say, ooh, doesn't seem

1185
00:55:00,040 --> 00:55:00,800
Speaker 6: r Christian of you.

1186
00:55:01,080 --> 00:55:02,640
Speaker 5: You might want to tell the police that it was

1187
00:55:02,680 --> 00:55:04,879
Speaker 5: my fault because they ended up arresting this other guy

1188
00:55:04,920 --> 00:55:07,920
Speaker 5: who Yeah, he had a newsflash, it was his fault.

1189
00:55:08,200 --> 00:55:09,399
Speaker 6: It's his father this whole time.

1190
00:55:09,680 --> 00:55:11,400
Speaker 4: Anyway, Hey is John Oghist.

1191
00:55:11,440 --> 00:55:12,920
Speaker 1: We're gonna get back to the stories, but a quick

1192
00:55:12,960 --> 00:55:14,480
Speaker 1: free minute break of ads from our sponsors.

1193
00:55:15,400 --> 00:55:19,360
Speaker 4: My parents moved a borderline stranger into their house, but

1194
00:55:19,560 --> 00:55:21,920
Speaker 4: something about his story doesn't line up.

1195
00:55:22,320 --> 00:55:23,120
Speaker 6: Who's this guy?

1196
00:55:23,440 --> 00:55:23,840
Speaker 5: What is he?

1197
00:55:23,920 --> 00:55:28,279
Speaker 4: Eh? Who's this dude? Background information is definitely needed to

1198
00:55:28,440 --> 00:55:31,759
Speaker 4: understand what's going on, So I apologize in events for

1199
00:55:31,840 --> 00:55:35,480
Speaker 4: the long post. We do live in Texas, this is relevant.

1200
00:55:36,280 --> 00:55:40,160
Speaker 4: In August twenty twenty three, I was one month pp

1201
00:55:40,920 --> 00:55:45,400
Speaker 4: after having my first partum baby. Postpartum, he was healthy,

1202
00:55:45,600 --> 00:55:49,080
Speaker 4: the first grandchild on both me and my husband's side

1203
00:55:49,080 --> 00:55:52,560
Speaker 4: of the family. He's very loved and very spoiled. My

1204
00:55:52,719 --> 00:55:54,880
Speaker 4: mom works part time, so she was able to come

1205
00:55:54,960 --> 00:55:57,920
Speaker 4: over and help almost every day. I was grateful for

1206
00:55:58,040 --> 00:56:00,920
Speaker 4: this because my husband only had enough pto to take

1207
00:56:01,000 --> 00:56:04,040
Speaker 4: one week off with me and our newborn son. That's

1208
00:56:04,120 --> 00:56:06,480
Speaker 4: so little time with your new child one week off?

1209
00:56:06,680 --> 00:56:06,879
Speaker 7: Yeah?

1210
00:56:07,000 --> 00:56:11,480
Speaker 4: Wow, I wonder what's the job get paternity leave? Well no,

1211
00:56:11,600 --> 00:56:14,920
Speaker 4: that was the husband. Yeah, paternity paternity So you said maternity.

1212
00:56:15,040 --> 00:56:18,239
Speaker 4: No eternity with the p with the pee. During one

1213
00:56:18,280 --> 00:56:21,000
Speaker 4: of these days together, my mom mentioned that an old

1214
00:56:21,120 --> 00:56:24,480
Speaker 4: coworker of my dad's we will call him Ryan, has

1215
00:56:24,600 --> 00:56:29,160
Speaker 4: moved into their house temporarily due to a legal issue. Ooh,

1216
00:56:29,760 --> 00:56:33,400
Speaker 4: what is legal issue? By the way, this comes from you, dash,

1217
00:56:33,560 --> 00:56:39,879
Speaker 4: young momo f almost two on the rory. I said

1218
00:56:39,920 --> 00:56:45,960
Speaker 4: it as I wanted to. Supposedly, about six years ago,

1219
00:56:46,280 --> 00:56:49,040
Speaker 4: Ryan married a woman who ran off six months into

1220
00:56:49,160 --> 00:56:52,600
Speaker 4: the marriage. Damn. According to Ryan, he filed for an

1221
00:56:52,600 --> 00:56:56,439
Speaker 4: annulment and has never heard from her again. In June

1222
00:56:56,480 --> 00:56:59,680
Speaker 4: twenty twenty three, this mysterious woman comes out of the

1223
00:56:59,719 --> 00:57:02,720
Speaker 4: wood works with a court order from an Arkansas judge

1224
00:57:02,760 --> 00:57:04,240
Speaker 4: to kick Ryan out of his house.

1225
00:57:04,560 --> 00:57:05,880
Speaker 5: What what?

1226
00:57:06,280 --> 00:57:07,480
Speaker 6: Ryan lives a wildlife?

1227
00:57:08,680 --> 00:57:11,520
Speaker 4: How long did ago? Did that happen? Six years ago?

1228
00:57:11,840 --> 00:57:14,200
Speaker 4: So he marries this girl, six months in, she's out.

1229
00:57:14,480 --> 00:57:18,240
Speaker 4: He files an annoying yeah, and then in n years yeah,

1230
00:57:18,320 --> 00:57:20,920
Speaker 4: and then like six years later, she's like, I have

1231
00:57:21,080 --> 00:57:24,280
Speaker 4: this paper. Your house is my house? Can you do that?

1232
00:57:24,440 --> 00:57:28,919
Speaker 4: What's the argument there? I don't know, So we're about

1233
00:57:28,920 --> 00:57:32,280
Speaker 4: to hear the argument. Mysterious woman supposedly claimed Ryan was

1234
00:57:32,360 --> 00:57:35,320
Speaker 4: abusive and kicked her out of the house with nothing.

1235
00:57:35,960 --> 00:57:40,600
Speaker 4: Somehow the marriage was never annulled properly. Honestly, it's all

1236
00:57:40,680 --> 00:57:44,640
Speaker 4: so confusing. Anyways, Somehow my parents found out he had

1237
00:57:44,640 --> 00:57:46,920
Speaker 4: been living in a hotel and offered for him to

1238
00:57:47,040 --> 00:57:50,560
Speaker 4: live in my old bedroom since I obviously am no

1239
00:57:50,800 --> 00:57:53,960
Speaker 4: longer living there. For context, I am a twenty four

1240
00:57:54,080 --> 00:57:56,400
Speaker 4: year old female, and I have a younger brother who

1241
00:57:56,480 --> 00:57:59,440
Speaker 4: still lives with my parents, nineteen year old male. Right

1242
00:57:59,480 --> 00:58:01,840
Speaker 4: off the bat, my husband, twenty five year old male,

1243
00:58:02,440 --> 00:58:05,000
Speaker 4: was very skeptical of the whole situation. He didn't think

1244
00:58:05,080 --> 00:58:08,480
Speaker 4: Ryan's story was plausible and legally not lining up, But

1245
00:58:08,560 --> 00:58:10,320
Speaker 4: I tried to give him the benefit of the doubts.

1246
00:58:10,560 --> 00:58:12,880
Speaker 4: You know, my parents have always been kind hearted people

1247
00:58:13,080 --> 00:58:13,280
Speaker 4: like this.

1248
00:58:13,600 --> 00:58:15,320
Speaker 6: How did they know Ryan? Did we find that out?

1249
00:58:15,440 --> 00:58:18,160
Speaker 4: It was he was an old coworker of her dad.

1250
00:58:18,280 --> 00:58:23,360
Speaker 6: Okay, okay, okay, So supposedly he's not a full stranger.

1251
00:58:23,560 --> 00:58:27,200
Speaker 4: Yeah, but I wonder you know what the relationship is like,

1252
00:58:27,960 --> 00:58:31,640
Speaker 4: et cetera. But I tried to give him the benefit

1253
00:58:31,720 --> 00:58:34,080
Speaker 4: of the doubt. My parents have always been kind hearted

1254
00:58:34,160 --> 00:58:36,440
Speaker 4: people like this, so taking in someone in need does

1255
00:58:36,520 --> 00:58:38,360
Speaker 4: not seem that out of the ordinary to me. My

1256
00:58:38,480 --> 00:58:40,760
Speaker 4: parents are not well off by any means, but they

1257
00:58:40,840 --> 00:58:42,880
Speaker 4: try their best to help people when they can. But

1258
00:58:43,200 --> 00:58:47,160
Speaker 4: I was wary for a couple of reasons. My parents

1259
00:58:47,240 --> 00:58:48,920
Speaker 4: tell me a lot over the years, and I've met,

1260
00:58:48,960 --> 00:58:51,160
Speaker 4: slash heard of most of their friends and co workers.

1261
00:58:51,560 --> 00:58:55,200
Speaker 4: I've literally never heard of Ryan. My parents are very

1262
00:58:55,240 --> 00:58:59,200
Speaker 4: gullible and tend to get scammed by people often. Uh oh,

1263
00:59:00,040 --> 00:59:03,040
Speaker 4: they get like the AI for a call the prince

1264
00:59:03,160 --> 00:59:06,640
Speaker 4: of a place in Africa.

1265
00:59:06,800 --> 00:59:10,120
Speaker 6: In Africa, and I need two hundred thousand dollars.

1266
00:59:10,480 --> 00:59:12,040
Speaker 4: Honey, you call the bank. We need to help this

1267
00:59:12,120 --> 00:59:16,040
Speaker 4: price to help to help this prience. Okay, So I

1268
00:59:16,160 --> 00:59:19,560
Speaker 4: am always very protective of them. Before having my baby,

1269
00:59:19,640 --> 00:59:21,880
Speaker 4: my mother in law and my mom both agreed to

1270
00:59:22,240 --> 00:59:24,600
Speaker 4: each take my baby two days out of the week.

1271
00:59:25,000 --> 00:59:27,640
Speaker 4: This was a true blessing. My mom assured me that

1272
00:59:27,800 --> 00:59:30,480
Speaker 4: Ryan would be out of the house at that point. Yeah.

1273
00:59:30,800 --> 00:59:34,840
Speaker 6: Oh, because having Opie's child around this like random man

1274
00:59:34,880 --> 00:59:36,480
Speaker 6: who might be scamming her parents.

1275
00:59:36,560 --> 00:59:36,760
Speaker 7: Yeah.

1276
00:59:36,840 --> 00:59:41,160
Speaker 4: At first I was like, this isn't really your business

1277
00:59:41,240 --> 00:59:43,120
Speaker 4: in a sense, so sure as your parents, But now

1278
00:59:43,160 --> 00:59:46,480
Speaker 4: that your child's in the house to make sense, you're like, yeah,

1279
00:59:46,480 --> 00:59:47,360
Speaker 4: who the hell is this man?

1280
00:59:47,600 --> 00:59:47,800
Speaker 6: Yeah?

1281
00:59:48,440 --> 00:59:49,920
Speaker 4: Hi, double hockey stick?

1282
00:59:50,280 --> 00:59:52,760
Speaker 6: Who the h double hockey stick is this man?

1283
00:59:53,400 --> 00:59:56,920
Speaker 4: Ye? Around three months after having my son, I returned

1284
00:59:56,920 --> 00:59:59,320
Speaker 4: to work and my son started going to my mom's

1285
00:59:59,400 --> 01:00:02,480
Speaker 4: during the week. But shockingly, Ryan was still living at

1286
01:00:02,520 --> 01:00:03,040
Speaker 4: my parents.

1287
01:00:03,640 --> 01:00:06,760
Speaker 6: So the mom did not coward or didn't lie, but

1288
01:00:06,880 --> 01:00:07,640
Speaker 6: she didn't fall through.

1289
01:00:07,840 --> 01:00:10,640
Speaker 4: Yeah. When asked about this, my mom would give me

1290
01:00:10,720 --> 01:00:13,760
Speaker 4: some rundown about the crappy court system and blah blah

1291
01:00:13,800 --> 01:00:16,360
Speaker 4: blah and assured me it's not going to be much

1292
01:00:16,440 --> 01:00:20,440
Speaker 4: longer over the next year, Girly.

1293
01:00:20,400 --> 01:00:24,560
Speaker 6: You're being scared. He's like, oh, yes, the courts.

1294
01:00:24,280 --> 01:00:26,960
Speaker 4: The courts. I can't leave because the court paper want

1295
01:00:27,000 --> 01:00:28,240
Speaker 4: me to live at your house for free.

1296
01:00:28,400 --> 01:00:30,040
Speaker 6: Yeah, And they're like, oh that makes sense.

1297
01:00:31,040 --> 01:00:33,160
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean that's what the prince in Nigeria, but

1298
01:00:33,320 --> 01:00:34,200
Speaker 4: that's what the courts say.

1299
01:00:34,480 --> 01:00:34,640
Speaker 6: Yeah.

1300
01:00:35,480 --> 01:00:37,760
Speaker 4: So my mom would assure me Ryan is close to

1301
01:00:37,880 --> 01:00:40,880
Speaker 4: moving out end of the month, which month the woman

1302
01:00:40,960 --> 01:00:43,680
Speaker 4: doesn't have a case, They just won't file the correct paperwork.

1303
01:00:43,720 --> 01:00:44,280
Speaker 2: But this should be it.

1304
01:00:45,320 --> 01:00:47,760
Speaker 4: All of this raised several red flags with me and

1305
01:00:47,840 --> 01:00:51,040
Speaker 4: my husband. I mean, at this point, if your son,

1306
01:00:51,600 --> 01:00:53,760
Speaker 4: your newborn son is going over to the house and

1307
01:00:53,920 --> 01:00:56,520
Speaker 4: there's still someone that you don't trust. Yeah, I feel

1308
01:00:56,560 --> 01:00:59,280
Speaker 4: like if I was ope and I didn't trust this man,

1309
01:00:59,840 --> 01:01:01,880
Speaker 4: was scenario that I would put a foot down and

1310
01:01:01,960 --> 01:01:03,640
Speaker 4: be like, okayah, I don't want my son to be

1311
01:01:03,680 --> 01:01:05,520
Speaker 4: in the same house so someone I don't trust, Like

1312
01:01:05,600 --> 01:01:06,080
Speaker 4: you guys.

1313
01:01:05,920 --> 01:01:07,600
Speaker 6: Are doing this a big favor, but I don't trust

1314
01:01:07,680 --> 01:01:11,040
Speaker 6: this man. So until that point, like you can't take

1315
01:01:11,080 --> 01:01:11,560
Speaker 6: care of him.

1316
01:01:11,680 --> 01:01:14,040
Speaker 4: Yeah, all of this race several red flags with me

1317
01:01:14,200 --> 01:01:16,640
Speaker 4: and my husband. My mom starts to tell me how

1318
01:01:16,760 --> 01:01:20,080
Speaker 4: great and helpful Ryan is. My father was lazy and

1319
01:01:20,160 --> 01:01:23,439
Speaker 4: doesn't care about the property anymore. Okay, conspiracy theory. Ryan

1320
01:01:23,520 --> 01:01:24,680
Speaker 4: and the mom are hooking up.

1321
01:01:24,880 --> 01:01:27,240
Speaker 6: Oh, She's like, Ryan's amazing.

1322
01:01:27,640 --> 01:01:30,320
Speaker 4: I've never seen that. Ryan's really great and he can't

1323
01:01:30,440 --> 01:01:32,320
Speaker 4: leave and he kisses I mean, helps out with the

1324
01:01:32,360 --> 01:01:32,760
Speaker 4: house so.

1325
01:01:33,200 --> 01:01:35,840
Speaker 6: Well, and sometimes you know, we actually let him stay

1326
01:01:35,880 --> 01:01:36,200
Speaker 6: in our.

1327
01:01:36,160 --> 01:01:38,640
Speaker 4: Bed just because it's because he needs to clean the

1328
01:01:38,680 --> 01:01:40,840
Speaker 4: sheets is really bad.

1329
01:01:40,960 --> 01:01:41,200
Speaker 7: Yeah.

1330
01:01:41,240 --> 01:01:43,320
Speaker 4: And you know sometimes I like to, you know, be

1331
01:01:43,360 --> 01:01:45,040
Speaker 4: a nudist in my sheets, and he does it too.

1332
01:01:45,440 --> 01:01:46,280
Speaker 6: It's just for his back.

1333
01:01:46,400 --> 01:01:49,680
Speaker 4: Yeah. So which the comments about my father weren't new,

1334
01:01:50,000 --> 01:01:52,280
Speaker 4: but now she's praising Ryan constantly.

1335
01:01:52,600 --> 01:01:55,280
Speaker 6: I think you might be right. I think you might

1336
01:01:55,320 --> 01:01:55,640
Speaker 6: be right.

1337
01:01:55,680 --> 01:01:59,080
Speaker 4: I'm calling it. My husband and I had several speculations

1338
01:01:59,120 --> 01:02:02,920
Speaker 4: about exactly what was going on in that household, including

1339
01:02:03,000 --> 01:02:09,080
Speaker 4: some weird emotional physical cheating. Yup, Yeah, I say what

1340
01:02:09,200 --> 01:02:10,480
Speaker 4: I said, you said what you said.

1341
01:02:10,600 --> 01:02:11,280
Speaker 6: You might be right.

1342
01:02:11,600 --> 01:02:15,160
Speaker 4: Mom wanted me to invite him to family holidays because

1343
01:02:15,200 --> 01:02:18,080
Speaker 4: he would not be with his family. I have come

1344
01:02:18,160 --> 01:02:21,080
Speaker 4: to pick up my son and found Ryan holding him.

1345
01:02:22,880 --> 01:02:25,320
Speaker 6: No, no, no, no, no no, you need to put

1346
01:02:25,360 --> 01:02:26,120
Speaker 6: your foot down, opie.

1347
01:02:26,240 --> 01:02:28,680
Speaker 4: Yeah. I mean you don't trust this man and he's

1348
01:02:28,760 --> 01:02:30,040
Speaker 4: like holding your son.

1349
01:02:30,520 --> 01:02:32,280
Speaker 6: Yeah, just say like that is unacceptable.

1350
01:02:32,400 --> 01:02:32,640
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1351
01:02:32,840 --> 01:02:36,040
Speaker 4: No, I did not like where things were going. But

1352
01:02:36,160 --> 01:02:38,680
Speaker 4: I've always had full trust in my parents. But just

1353
01:02:38,760 --> 01:02:41,400
Speaker 4: because they trust this stranger around my son doesn't mean

1354
01:02:42,040 --> 01:02:43,040
Speaker 4: me and my husband do.

1355
01:02:43,280 --> 01:02:43,520
Speaker 6: Yeah.

1356
01:02:43,800 --> 01:02:46,600
Speaker 4: I tried bringing up the Ryan situation several times to

1357
01:02:46,680 --> 01:02:49,080
Speaker 4: my parents. I tell him. I do not trust him,

1358
01:02:49,200 --> 01:02:51,520
Speaker 4: I do not know him, and he's something about his

1359
01:02:51,600 --> 01:02:55,000
Speaker 4: stories not lining up. I believe Ryan also picked up

1360
01:02:55,040 --> 01:02:56,960
Speaker 4: on all this because about seven eight months ago he

1361
01:02:57,080 --> 01:02:58,000
Speaker 4: began to avoid me.

1362
01:02:59,400 --> 01:03:02,560
Speaker 6: Ryan did, Yeah, he's yeah, because you're picking up you're

1363
01:03:02,760 --> 01:03:04,600
Speaker 6: you're picking up on his trail.

1364
01:03:05,160 --> 01:03:05,280
Speaker 5: Mm.

1365
01:03:06,200 --> 01:03:09,720
Speaker 4: He knows, he knows. I know, he knows something like that.

1366
01:03:10,240 --> 01:03:10,800
Speaker 4: Is that from something?

1367
01:03:10,800 --> 01:03:11,120
Speaker 7: I don't know?

1368
01:03:11,920 --> 01:03:13,720
Speaker 4: My wholes he knows.

1369
01:03:14,560 --> 01:03:15,200
Speaker 6: It's like a song.

1370
01:03:15,360 --> 01:03:19,560
Speaker 4: Okay, my whole family have each other's location shared, except

1371
01:03:19,600 --> 01:03:22,400
Speaker 4: for my mom. We got into a heated argument over this.

1372
01:03:22,520 --> 01:03:24,880
Speaker 4: I wanted to know where she was with my son

1373
01:03:25,200 --> 01:03:29,480
Speaker 4: Yeahency just you know, tag the sun. Yeah, but like

1374
01:03:29,520 --> 01:03:30,000
Speaker 4: a little.

1375
01:03:31,560 --> 01:03:36,720
Speaker 6: Yeah, like in that episode of Black Mirror, which one

1376
01:03:37,080 --> 01:03:39,800
Speaker 6: the one where the little girl they put a chip

1377
01:03:39,880 --> 01:03:42,560
Speaker 6: in her head? Oh, and like follow her everywhere, you know.

1378
01:03:42,640 --> 01:03:45,320
Speaker 4: Talking about reality with freaking nearrolink.

1379
01:03:45,640 --> 01:03:47,000
Speaker 6: That's that's why it's Black Mirror.

1380
01:03:48,160 --> 01:03:50,320
Speaker 4: So she claimed that she is an adult and did

1381
01:03:50,360 --> 01:03:53,120
Speaker 4: not need a babysitter to track her every mood. This

1382
01:03:53,320 --> 01:03:57,080
Speaker 4: is supposedly rooted to my dad obsessively tracking my mom's location.

1383
01:03:57,800 --> 01:04:00,920
Speaker 4: Mom has gone out to eat with Ryan. Ryan had

1384
01:04:01,080 --> 01:04:04,200
Speaker 4: drove her to trips, taken her on the lake with

1385
01:04:04,360 --> 01:04:06,960
Speaker 4: his boat, and they text each other regularly.

1386
01:04:07,160 --> 01:04:11,760
Speaker 6: Are cheating? Yeah, yeah, I don't even believe it. That's

1387
01:04:11,840 --> 01:04:14,320
Speaker 6: the Like, why else would they keep Ryn around so long?

1388
01:04:15,880 --> 01:04:19,320
Speaker 4: Well, he needs you know, he's providing like physical fit.

1389
01:04:20,480 --> 01:04:22,919
Speaker 4: She needs to be adress emotional support on the lake

1390
01:04:23,400 --> 01:04:26,680
Speaker 4: and he helps her out with that. Just pete, Yeah,

1391
01:04:26,840 --> 01:04:30,320
Speaker 4: just pe tea. He has no certification, but you know

1392
01:04:30,600 --> 01:04:35,160
Speaker 4: he is intuitive hands. Okay, all of this has come

1393
01:04:35,240 --> 01:04:39,200
Speaker 4: to a head. Ryan's getting head. So it is now

1394
01:04:39,280 --> 01:04:43,200
Speaker 4: October twenty twenty four. The other night, my husband confronted

1395
01:04:43,240 --> 01:04:45,760
Speaker 4: me about the whole situation going on at my family home.

1396
01:04:46,320 --> 01:04:48,760
Speaker 4: My husband does not want my son going over to

1397
01:04:48,840 --> 01:04:54,600
Speaker 4: their house unsupervised. My husband has a new job that

1398
01:04:54,720 --> 01:04:56,560
Speaker 4: allows him to take my son in the mornings that

1399
01:04:56,640 --> 01:04:59,720
Speaker 4: I work. I'm currently eight months pregnant until my husband.

1400
01:05:00,040 --> 01:05:01,800
Speaker 4: I really don't want to cause rift in my family

1401
01:05:01,920 --> 01:05:04,560
Speaker 4: right before a baby is born. So OPI he's about

1402
01:05:04,600 --> 01:05:05,480
Speaker 4: to have another child.

1403
01:05:06,120 --> 01:05:07,439
Speaker 6: Yeah, so it must be a second child.

1404
01:05:08,000 --> 01:05:12,080
Speaker 4: Yeah, damn, she's She's already not comfortable with her son

1405
01:05:12,400 --> 01:05:15,160
Speaker 4: in the house with Ryan, and now they're going to

1406
01:05:15,200 --> 01:05:16,600
Speaker 4: have another child. Yeah.

1407
01:05:16,800 --> 01:05:20,240
Speaker 6: I mean, I don't know. Like I I'm assuming that

1408
01:05:20,360 --> 01:05:22,880
Speaker 6: there is some financial reason that they need the mom

1409
01:05:23,000 --> 01:05:26,919
Speaker 6: to watch after their kid. But if you had the money,

1410
01:05:27,000 --> 01:05:30,600
Speaker 6: I would say, like, don't don't leave your kid there

1411
01:05:30,960 --> 01:05:33,320
Speaker 6: if you're uncomfortable, But it might be a financial thing.

1412
01:05:33,480 --> 01:05:35,480
Speaker 4: I've been trying to figure out for months how to

1413
01:05:35,520 --> 01:05:38,880
Speaker 4: approach the situation. It has been causing stress contractions so

1414
01:05:39,080 --> 01:05:41,919
Speaker 4: close to the end of my pregnancy. Dang, so it's

1415
01:05:42,440 --> 01:05:46,440
Speaker 4: interfering with her healthy pregnancy. That's not good. I'm so conflicted.

1416
01:05:46,560 --> 01:05:49,560
Speaker 4: My mom and dad love and cherish my son so much.

1417
01:05:49,760 --> 01:05:52,200
Speaker 4: They love being grandparents and have taken good care of him,

1418
01:05:52,520 --> 01:05:55,680
Speaker 4: But I do not appreciate the potential risk or exposure

1419
01:05:55,800 --> 01:05:58,680
Speaker 4: he would be getting due to this weird relationship with Ryan.

1420
01:05:59,400 --> 01:06:03,280
Speaker 4: My brother's birthday is this second is this weekend, and

1421
01:06:03,400 --> 01:06:07,360
Speaker 4: he wanted to go to the Renaissance Festival. Sophia went

1422
01:06:07,440 --> 01:06:09,040
Speaker 4: to a renfest.

1423
01:06:08,560 --> 01:06:10,520
Speaker 6: That's true with Riley, and Riley did do.

1424
01:06:11,440 --> 01:06:14,160
Speaker 4: Me and my mom decided to drive up early dude

1425
01:06:14,200 --> 01:06:17,760
Speaker 4: to my son's sleep schedule. While navigating, I caught a

1426
01:06:17,840 --> 01:06:21,040
Speaker 4: glimpse of a message preview between Ryan and my mom.

1427
01:06:24,200 --> 01:06:28,280
Speaker 6: Is it's gonna be like, hey, Ryan looking hot.

1428
01:06:30,080 --> 01:06:32,760
Speaker 4: Ryan's the one who's sending the text, right, No, it

1429
01:06:32,880 --> 01:06:33,240
Speaker 4: was the mom.

1430
01:06:33,440 --> 01:06:36,560
Speaker 6: The mom sent this text. It was a text exchange.

1431
01:06:36,600 --> 01:06:39,080
Speaker 4: Right while navigating, I caught a glimpse of a message

1432
01:06:39,120 --> 01:06:42,040
Speaker 4: preview between Ryan and my mom. She's oh, he's with

1433
01:06:42,720 --> 01:06:44,840
Speaker 4: the mom. Yeah, so they're going to see.

1434
01:06:44,680 --> 01:06:46,400
Speaker 6: What I was telling you the text conversation.

1435
01:06:46,600 --> 01:06:48,120
Speaker 4: Ohkay, God, give me a minute.

1436
01:06:48,960 --> 01:06:52,720
Speaker 6: Mom text, hey Ryan looking hot, and then all of

1437
01:06:52,880 --> 01:06:57,080
Speaker 6: like the tongue emoji out like like heat, and then

1438
01:06:57,160 --> 01:07:02,600
Speaker 6: Ryan is gonna respond, hey hot, Mama me, uh, see

1439
01:07:02,640 --> 01:07:03,840
Speaker 6: you at the boat later.

1440
01:07:05,040 --> 01:07:06,080
Speaker 4: What's gonna happen at the boat?

1441
01:07:06,520 --> 01:07:07,440
Speaker 6: Wouldn't you like to know?

1442
01:07:07,680 --> 01:07:08,160
Speaker 4: Get wet?

1443
01:07:08,600 --> 01:07:10,640
Speaker 6: Yeah? And that's the text combo.

1444
01:07:11,840 --> 01:07:14,640
Speaker 4: Oh my god, that's exactly what it is. Right now,

1445
01:07:15,320 --> 01:07:19,560
Speaker 4: this kind of confirmed all suspicions I've been having. I'm disgusted,

1446
01:07:20,080 --> 01:07:24,080
Speaker 4: but not completely broken due to me already having my speculations.

1447
01:07:24,520 --> 01:07:26,600
Speaker 4: If you want to be healed of your brokenness, you

1448
01:07:26,640 --> 01:07:31,360
Speaker 4: should come join us live on YouTube, Facebook, Twitch, TikTok

1449
01:07:31,520 --> 01:07:34,520
Speaker 4: every weekday three pm PSD and just tap our profile.

1450
01:07:36,440 --> 01:07:37,640
Speaker 4: There's another relevant update.

1451
01:07:37,800 --> 01:07:40,480
Speaker 6: But let's discuss I'm a little pissed because if you

1452
01:07:40,520 --> 01:07:43,960
Speaker 6: didn't give us the text conversation is it? But what

1453
01:07:44,040 --> 01:07:46,400
Speaker 6: doesn't seem like? Oh it's not yet we never learn,

1454
01:07:46,560 --> 01:07:49,640
Speaker 6: which is annoying, but it's also okay because I gave

1455
01:07:49,720 --> 01:07:49,960
Speaker 6: it to you.

1456
01:07:50,280 --> 01:07:54,080
Speaker 4: Yeah, Sophia, a new word for word. Yeah, what do

1457
01:07:54,120 --> 01:07:56,920
Speaker 4: you think? I think it's gotta be situation?

1458
01:07:57,200 --> 01:07:58,200
Speaker 6: Oh what's happening?

1459
01:07:58,360 --> 01:07:59,800
Speaker 4: Or yeah, what do you think is going on?

1460
01:07:59,880 --> 01:08:03,240
Speaker 6: I think that Opie's mom and Ryan are getting it

1461
01:08:03,320 --> 01:08:05,560
Speaker 6: on at the boat.

1462
01:08:05,440 --> 01:08:07,960
Speaker 4: At the boat every Saturday, getting wet on the lake.

1463
01:08:08,600 --> 01:08:13,240
Speaker 6: I think that Opie's dad knows, but he's just letting

1464
01:08:13,280 --> 01:08:13,680
Speaker 6: it happen.

1465
01:08:14,120 --> 01:08:16,519
Speaker 4: Oh, oh you think the dad knows?

1466
01:08:16,640 --> 01:08:18,080
Speaker 6: Yeah, I don't actually think. I don't think he's a

1467
01:08:18,080 --> 01:08:19,680
Speaker 6: part of it though. I don't think he's joining at

1468
01:08:19,720 --> 01:08:24,200
Speaker 6: the lake. He's just like, I think, it's like it happens,

1469
01:08:24,360 --> 01:08:25,240
Speaker 6: you know how it goes.

1470
01:08:25,479 --> 01:08:27,640
Speaker 4: You know, marriages or marriages. You gotta do what you

1471
01:08:27,680 --> 01:08:28,799
Speaker 4: got to do to keep your wife.

1472
01:08:28,640 --> 01:08:31,280
Speaker 6: Had and I think going for If you're not comfortable

1473
01:08:31,320 --> 01:08:33,439
Speaker 6: with Ryan being around your kid, you just you gotta

1474
01:08:33,520 --> 01:08:35,920
Speaker 6: take the kid away. Can't let your parents watch your kid.

1475
01:08:36,880 --> 01:08:40,439
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think Opie said that they've talked about Ryan

1476
01:08:40,680 --> 01:08:44,960
Speaker 4: several times. But with how stressed OPI is is and

1477
01:08:45,200 --> 01:08:49,040
Speaker 4: especially having stress contractions around it, I think maybe a

1478
01:08:49,120 --> 01:08:52,320
Speaker 4: more in depth conversation of like, hey, I do not

1479
01:08:52,479 --> 01:08:56,360
Speaker 4: feel comfortable with my child and my future child in

1480
01:08:56,439 --> 01:08:59,160
Speaker 4: a house with this guy that I don't trust. Can

1481
01:08:59,240 --> 01:09:00,680
Speaker 4: we like actually talk about it.

1482
01:09:01,040 --> 01:09:03,120
Speaker 6: But let's finish the story and see if there's any

1483
01:09:03,320 --> 01:09:04,040
Speaker 6: more information.

1484
01:09:04,479 --> 01:09:06,960
Speaker 4: So now I don't know what to do. My mom

1485
01:09:07,040 --> 01:09:09,439
Speaker 4: and dad are a huge part of my life. My

1486
01:09:09,600 --> 01:09:13,639
Speaker 4: mom is one of my closest, my closest confidants, closest

1487
01:09:13,800 --> 01:09:17,080
Speaker 4: to my husband, and my son adores her. I have

1488
01:09:17,160 --> 01:09:19,479
Speaker 4: a feeling if I threaten to stop bringing my son over,

1489
01:09:19,680 --> 01:09:21,960
Speaker 4: it will cause a riff in the family. I think

1490
01:09:22,000 --> 01:09:25,360
Speaker 4: there's so many different options and like ultimatums or threats. Yeah,

1491
01:09:26,280 --> 01:09:29,280
Speaker 4: I do not plan on addressing this anytime this weekend.

1492
01:09:29,400 --> 01:09:31,600
Speaker 4: I do not want to ruin my brother's birthday, but

1493
01:09:31,720 --> 01:09:34,160
Speaker 4: I do want to address it next week. If you

1494
01:09:34,280 --> 01:09:36,799
Speaker 4: made it this far, thank you for reading. I'm definitely

1495
01:09:36,960 --> 01:09:40,639
Speaker 4: not great at grammar or writing. Any feedback slash advice

1496
01:09:40,680 --> 01:09:42,480
Speaker 4: on the situation is appreciated.

1497
01:09:43,040 --> 01:09:45,000
Speaker 6: They are what the heck we didn't learn anything?

1498
01:09:45,160 --> 01:09:45,360
Speaker 4: I know?

1499
01:09:45,840 --> 01:09:46,559
Speaker 6: That's ridiculous.

1500
01:09:46,560 --> 01:09:47,519
Speaker 4: I want to hear the text.

1501
01:09:48,040 --> 01:09:50,000
Speaker 6: What was the text? We don't even know, like, hope,

1502
01:09:50,040 --> 01:09:52,880
Speaker 6: we didn't even confirm if make a mom and Ryan,

1503
01:09:53,000 --> 01:09:54,040
Speaker 6: we're actually doing it.

1504
01:09:54,160 --> 01:09:56,280
Speaker 4: Yeah, there's nothing wrong with your grammar, said disgust it

1505
01:09:56,400 --> 01:09:58,360
Speaker 4: does your storytelling? You're terrible.

1506
01:09:59,040 --> 01:10:01,720
Speaker 6: No, I'm sorry, but I'm not I'm a little pissed. Yeah,

1507
01:10:04,000 --> 01:10:06,040
Speaker 6: I can't give you advice because I don't know what's

1508
01:10:06,080 --> 01:10:09,280
Speaker 6: going on. Yeah, we don't really know anything about Ryan.

1509
01:10:09,400 --> 01:10:12,320
Speaker 6: You say that you're suspicious of him, but.

1510
01:10:12,560 --> 01:10:15,160
Speaker 4: You have more Yeah, Ope, you have more information than us.

1511
01:10:15,240 --> 01:10:18,720
Speaker 4: If you discussed if you found out something that is happening. Yeah,

1512
01:10:19,240 --> 01:10:21,599
Speaker 4: at that point, you have evidence, and you could talk

1513
01:10:21,680 --> 01:10:24,320
Speaker 4: to your mom and Toad and say, like, I am

1514
01:10:24,400 --> 01:10:27,240
Speaker 4: so uncomfortable with this whole situation. I do not want

1515
01:10:27,240 --> 01:10:30,120
Speaker 4: to bring my kid over. Yeah, like what can we

1516
01:10:30,240 --> 01:10:30,720
Speaker 4: do about this?

1517
01:10:31,000 --> 01:10:33,600
Speaker 6: Yeah? Now, I think that you either need to have

1518
01:10:33,760 --> 01:10:35,960
Speaker 6: that conversation with your mom or you have to decide.

1519
01:10:36,120 --> 01:10:39,920
Speaker 6: You know, am I more uncomfortable with my son being

1520
01:10:39,960 --> 01:10:45,000
Speaker 6: around my kids or or sorry, my son being around

1521
01:10:45,040 --> 01:10:50,320
Speaker 6: my parents? Or do I like, am I more worried

1522
01:10:50,360 --> 01:10:54,240
Speaker 6: about losing my parents? You know, like my son's comfort

1523
01:10:54,439 --> 01:10:58,920
Speaker 6: or riff with parents, which ones, which one's the worst, and.

1524
01:10:59,680 --> 01:11:04,200
Speaker 4: The spectrum of other options. Yeah, besides losing.

1525
01:11:03,920 --> 01:11:06,519
Speaker 6: A well no, I mean I think ops to decide

1526
01:11:06,560 --> 01:11:10,519
Speaker 6: which of those comes top priority if the conversation doesn't

1527
01:11:10,520 --> 01:11:11,160
Speaker 6: work with her parents.

1528
01:11:11,280 --> 01:11:13,479
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, Okay, you're saying worst case scenario.

1529
01:11:13,680 --> 01:11:14,519
Speaker 2: H what do you do? Yeah?

1530
01:11:14,600 --> 01:11:17,160
Speaker 4: Yeah, that makes sense, But that is the end.

1531
01:11:17,120 --> 01:11:20,320
Speaker 6: Of that story. I've been there for my brother through everything,

1532
01:11:20,680 --> 01:11:22,920
Speaker 6: but now he's at the center of a drama.

1533
01:11:23,080 --> 01:11:25,600
Speaker 4: Tornado, Get to the eye of the storm, Get to

1534
01:11:25,720 --> 01:11:26,040
Speaker 4: the eye.

1535
01:11:26,680 --> 01:11:30,040
Speaker 6: I twenty six female, got engaged to John thirty male

1536
01:11:30,160 --> 01:11:33,760
Speaker 6: in twenty eighteen. We only got married in twenty twenty two.

1537
01:11:34,280 --> 01:11:37,400
Speaker 6: I met my now ex best friend Sarah in twenty nineteen.

1538
01:11:38,160 --> 01:11:41,559
Speaker 6: My entire family loved her and accepted her as another

1539
01:11:41,680 --> 01:11:44,439
Speaker 6: daughter since she had a difficult relationship with her parents.

1540
01:11:45,479 --> 01:11:47,519
Speaker 6: She had been living with her long term boyfriend at

1541
01:11:47,560 --> 01:11:52,120
Speaker 6: the time. We did everything together. I trusted her wholeheartedly

1542
01:11:52,280 --> 01:11:55,320
Speaker 6: and even made her the godmother of our son. So

1543
01:11:55,560 --> 01:11:57,680
Speaker 6: when all of this unfolded, to say that I was

1544
01:11:57,760 --> 01:11:59,560
Speaker 6: heartbroken is understated.

1545
01:12:00,160 --> 01:12:02,280
Speaker 4: What a way to set up a story. Yeah, I

1546
01:12:02,400 --> 01:12:03,519
Speaker 4: invested by the way.

1547
01:12:03,640 --> 01:12:06,160
Speaker 6: This comes from different promise nine five five on the

1548
01:12:06,200 --> 01:12:11,040
Speaker 6: Okay Storytime Severed It. My brother Gary thirty mail and

1549
01:12:11,200 --> 01:12:15,160
Speaker 6: I always and I always had a super tight relationship.

1550
01:12:15,800 --> 01:12:18,120
Speaker 6: He had struggled with finding a good partner, and when

1551
01:12:18,160 --> 01:12:20,040
Speaker 6: he finally found the woman we all thought he was

1552
01:12:20,080 --> 01:12:24,479
Speaker 6: going to marry, she cheated on it ouch Damn. She

1553
01:12:24,600 --> 01:12:26,719
Speaker 6: had done this in front of me at a church event.

1554
01:12:27,000 --> 01:12:29,640
Speaker 6: So I was the only one who told my brother.

1555
01:12:29,560 --> 01:12:32,320
Speaker 4: At church, come on, girl, she don't do the dirty

1556
01:12:32,360 --> 01:12:32,760
Speaker 4: at church.

1557
01:12:33,280 --> 01:12:35,479
Speaker 6: He had broken things off with her and went through

1558
01:12:35,560 --> 01:12:39,479
Speaker 6: an extremely bad depression. Again I was there. I was

1559
01:12:39,560 --> 01:12:42,120
Speaker 6: the only one taking care of him. I helped him

1560
01:12:42,160 --> 01:12:46,240
Speaker 6: pick up the pieces, and slowly he got better until

1561
01:12:46,360 --> 01:12:47,960
Speaker 6: he didn't uh op.

1562
01:12:48,000 --> 01:12:49,639
Speaker 4: He was the only one taking care of him because

1563
01:12:49,640 --> 01:12:51,519
Speaker 4: no one else knew, or just because no one else

1564
01:12:51,640 --> 01:12:52,240
Speaker 4: was supporting I.

1565
01:12:52,240 --> 01:12:55,120
Speaker 6: Think no one else was supporting or brother. I got

1566
01:12:55,200 --> 01:12:57,400
Speaker 6: home after work one day and found him in bed,

1567
01:12:57,520 --> 01:13:00,280
Speaker 6: sick as a dog. It took me a minute, oh,

1568
01:13:00,560 --> 01:13:03,719
Speaker 6: but I realized that he tried to end his life.

1569
01:13:03,880 --> 01:13:05,800
Speaker 6: Oh I saved him.

1570
01:13:06,120 --> 01:13:06,679
Speaker 4: Oh my God.

1571
01:13:07,240 --> 01:13:10,160
Speaker 6: After that we got even closer, and I honestly loved

1572
01:13:10,160 --> 01:13:13,000
Speaker 6: my brother more than my parents. This was part of

1573
01:13:13,040 --> 01:13:15,639
Speaker 6: the reason why I waited so long to get married.

1574
01:13:16,000 --> 01:13:17,920
Speaker 6: That makes sense. I mean you were dealing with a

1575
01:13:18,000 --> 01:13:21,080
Speaker 6: lot of really really hard stuff with your family.

1576
01:13:21,240 --> 01:13:24,439
Speaker 4: Yeah. To have anyone in your life dealing with super

1577
01:13:24,680 --> 01:13:28,000
Speaker 4: ideation and it to be your brother, Yeah, it's a

1578
01:13:28,120 --> 01:13:29,320
Speaker 4: huge burden to kill.

1579
01:13:30,360 --> 01:13:33,120
Speaker 6: Fast forward to January twenty twenty two and we had

1580
01:13:33,160 --> 01:13:37,040
Speaker 6: been planning our wedding for that December. My brother was

1581
01:13:37,120 --> 01:13:40,080
Speaker 6: asked to be best man and my best friend was

1582
01:13:40,120 --> 01:13:43,000
Speaker 6: made of honor. My fiance and my brother were honestly

1583
01:13:43,120 --> 01:13:45,879
Speaker 6: the best of friends, so it wasn't a push decision

1584
01:13:45,920 --> 01:13:48,560
Speaker 6: on my part. We were a tight knit family and

1585
01:13:48,720 --> 01:13:52,080
Speaker 6: we were all happy. Then my brother met his girlfriend,

1586
01:13:52,160 --> 01:13:55,920
Speaker 6: Kim Duh. They had started dating December of twenty twenty one,

1587
01:13:56,080 --> 01:13:59,920
Speaker 6: so she was fairly new. But she seemed nice. Slowly though,

1588
01:14:00,000 --> 01:14:01,839
Speaker 6: oh we saw red flash.

1589
01:14:01,920 --> 01:14:03,160
Speaker 4: She seemed nice.

1590
01:14:03,320 --> 01:14:07,880
Speaker 6: They seemed and only three months after the relationship it started,

1591
01:14:08,080 --> 01:14:11,040
Speaker 6: Gary had been in debt, deep debt, drinking more and.

1592
01:14:11,120 --> 01:14:16,040
Speaker 4: Seeing his last Gary's the brother, Yes, okay, I believe.

1593
01:14:16,080 --> 01:14:19,960
Speaker 6: So we kept trying to invite them over, but they

1594
01:14:19,960 --> 01:14:22,760
Speaker 6: would always say no. If they did come over, Can

1595
01:14:22,760 --> 01:14:25,360
Speaker 6: would ignore us and stare at her phone. She was

1596
01:14:25,479 --> 01:14:28,080
Speaker 6: twenty at this point and my brother was twenty eight.

1597
01:14:28,880 --> 01:14:33,040
Speaker 4: Dude, what a huge developmental gap. I like, yeah, I

1598
01:14:33,160 --> 01:14:36,519
Speaker 4: mean her age gaps like twenty as a child twenty

1599
01:14:36,640 --> 01:14:39,120
Speaker 4: is yeah. And also I mean she's around like these

1600
01:14:39,760 --> 01:14:42,280
Speaker 4: like how old is o p. Probably thirties, I think,

1601
01:14:42,320 --> 01:14:43,000
Speaker 4: so I'm.

1602
01:14:42,840 --> 01:14:43,920
Speaker 6: Assuming something like that.

1603
01:14:44,240 --> 01:14:44,639
Speaker 4: Thirties.

1604
01:14:44,680 --> 01:14:48,880
Speaker 6: I think brother Gary is thirty now twenty six and thirty.

1605
01:14:49,920 --> 01:14:52,040
Speaker 6: Uh so just like a twenty year old with kind.

1606
01:14:51,920 --> 01:14:53,479
Speaker 4: Of a lot I was older people, I was a

1607
01:14:53,600 --> 01:14:54,479
Speaker 4: child when I was twenty.

1608
01:14:55,000 --> 01:14:55,200
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1609
01:14:56,120 --> 01:14:57,800
Speaker 6: All of us had really put an effort to make

1610
01:14:57,840 --> 01:15:00,840
Speaker 6: her feel welcome, but she was ice cold. Oh, my

1611
01:15:00,960 --> 01:15:04,479
Speaker 6: son's birthday is in June and we always plan elaborate parties,

1612
01:15:04,640 --> 01:15:07,920
Speaker 6: so everyone was invited. The day went off without a hitch,

1613
01:15:08,120 --> 01:15:11,920
Speaker 6: but again Kim was one sided, giving us one word

1614
01:15:12,000 --> 01:15:15,280
Speaker 6: of dancers and staring at her phone. She just feels

1615
01:15:15,320 --> 01:15:19,080
Speaker 6: very childlike. Yeah, disclaimer, she doesn't have social anxiety, and

1616
01:15:19,200 --> 01:15:21,920
Speaker 6: she was a well known party girl and had plans

1617
01:15:22,040 --> 01:15:23,000
Speaker 6: virtually every weekend.

1618
01:15:23,160 --> 01:15:24,240
Speaker 4: She just like didn't want to be there.

1619
01:15:24,320 --> 01:15:27,320
Speaker 6: She's just like a normal twenty year old Gary Star Well.

1620
01:15:27,360 --> 01:15:29,160
Speaker 6: I mean like not the not the ignorance she becomes

1621
01:15:29,200 --> 01:15:30,000
Speaker 6: the party girl stuff.

1622
01:15:30,080 --> 01:15:33,080
Speaker 4: Yeah, she she sounds worse than a normal Yeah.

1623
01:15:33,160 --> 01:15:37,240
Speaker 6: No, no, not the ignoring everyone, that's not normal. That's weird.

1624
01:15:38,640 --> 01:15:40,559
Speaker 6: But like they're like she was a noon party girl

1625
01:15:40,600 --> 01:15:43,599
Speaker 6: and she goes out every weekend. It's like a twenty

1626
01:15:43,680 --> 01:15:44,280
Speaker 6: year old behavior.

1627
01:15:44,360 --> 01:15:48,040
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's what Sophia does. No, she's in the club,

1628
01:15:49,200 --> 01:15:51,519
Speaker 4: the club dance.

1629
01:15:51,720 --> 01:15:55,400
Speaker 6: That's big club dance. Gary started to become less dependent

1630
01:15:55,439 --> 01:15:57,680
Speaker 6: on her, and at the birthday party had engaged with

1631
01:15:57,840 --> 01:16:00,240
Speaker 6: us more than he did in the past six months

1632
01:16:00,280 --> 01:16:02,599
Speaker 6: of them dating. Why is he dependent on a twenty

1633
01:16:02,680 --> 01:16:03,000
Speaker 6: year old?

1634
01:16:03,960 --> 01:16:05,960
Speaker 4: That's embarrassing he's dating her.

1635
01:16:06,080 --> 01:16:07,400
Speaker 6: I know, but like, why are you dependent on a

1636
01:16:07,439 --> 01:16:10,120
Speaker 6: twenty year old or twenty eight? Don't be dependent on

1637
01:16:10,200 --> 01:16:10,840
Speaker 6: a twenty year old?

1638
01:16:11,479 --> 01:16:12,160
Speaker 2: What do you mean?

1639
01:16:12,200 --> 01:16:13,120
Speaker 4: What does that mean? Dependent?

1640
01:16:13,479 --> 01:16:13,800
Speaker 6: I don't know.

1641
01:16:13,920 --> 01:16:17,760
Speaker 4: I don't know dependent, like emotionally, that's just it said.

1642
01:16:17,800 --> 01:16:18,200
Speaker 6: Dependent.

1643
01:16:19,560 --> 01:16:22,560
Speaker 2: He can't do his own thing without her being around. Yeah, like,

1644
01:16:22,760 --> 01:16:25,920
Speaker 2: oh it's Friday night. I can't do anything without my girlfriend.

1645
01:16:26,160 --> 01:16:27,720
Speaker 4: Some people are like that with their relationship.

1646
01:16:28,360 --> 01:16:32,320
Speaker 6: Yeah, it's sad, it is sad, But also I just think,

1647
01:16:32,400 --> 01:16:34,600
Speaker 6: like he's twenty eight and she's twenty and he's like.

1648
01:16:34,920 --> 01:16:36,760
Speaker 2: He should have his life together, Sophia.

1649
01:16:36,520 --> 01:16:38,840
Speaker 6: Saying exactly, that is my point for sure.

1650
01:16:38,920 --> 01:16:40,559
Speaker 2: Sure, I got I got you girl.

1651
01:16:40,479 --> 01:16:44,160
Speaker 6: Thank you appreciate it. Sarah was also there. Her boyfriend

1652
01:16:44,200 --> 01:16:46,720
Speaker 6: at the time was working in another town, so I

1653
01:16:46,920 --> 01:16:51,000
Speaker 6: obviously included her everywhere, even though she didn't need the invite. Finally,

1654
01:16:51,400 --> 01:16:53,240
Speaker 6: Sarah's back in the story. I was wondering when she

1655
01:16:53,240 --> 01:16:53,800
Speaker 6: would show up.

1656
01:16:53,800 --> 01:16:54,240
Speaker 4: Best friend.

1657
01:16:54,400 --> 01:16:57,679
Speaker 6: Yeah, she's a super bubbly girl and had an easy

1658
01:16:57,760 --> 01:17:01,240
Speaker 6: time connecting to people. Gary and Sarah had talked for

1659
01:17:01,280 --> 01:17:05,400
Speaker 6: a bit, nothing weird. There was no touching, no flirting,

1660
01:17:05,600 --> 01:17:08,439
Speaker 6: and most of the time it was general conversation when

1661
01:17:08,479 --> 01:17:12,519
Speaker 6: all of us were together. Later that week, Gary told

1662
01:17:12,560 --> 01:17:14,519
Speaker 6: me that Kim was going to visit her parents for

1663
01:17:14,560 --> 01:17:17,080
Speaker 6: the weekend, so he was free for some wedding planning.

1664
01:17:18,080 --> 01:17:19,840
Speaker 6: He came over to our house and we had the

1665
01:17:19,920 --> 01:17:23,080
Speaker 6: best time. Sarah came by a little later, and again

1666
01:17:23,360 --> 01:17:26,479
Speaker 6: we all just joked, listen to some music options, and

1667
01:17:26,640 --> 01:17:28,479
Speaker 6: decided on a menu for the wedding.

1668
01:17:28,600 --> 01:17:30,719
Speaker 4: Oh, I'm kind of shipping Gary and Sarah.

1669
01:17:30,880 --> 01:17:33,519
Speaker 6: I feel like but this they're both they're both bowed up.

1670
01:17:34,120 --> 01:17:34,960
Speaker 4: Oh, Sarah's too.

1671
01:17:35,160 --> 01:17:38,320
Speaker 1: Sarah has a boyfriend and Gary has a twenty year

1672
01:17:38,360 --> 01:17:39,720
Speaker 1: old What do I always say?

1673
01:17:40,520 --> 01:17:41,719
Speaker 4: What do you always say? Swap?

1674
01:17:42,080 --> 01:17:45,240
Speaker 2: No, don't let your girlfriend stop you from finding your wife.

1675
01:17:47,200 --> 01:17:48,439
Speaker 6: I guess that's the case.

1676
01:17:48,600 --> 01:17:53,200
Speaker 4: I say, just unlink, relink and then they could relink exactly.

1677
01:17:52,960 --> 01:17:54,760
Speaker 2: Yep, and then if you guys don't feel good about it,

1678
01:17:54,840 --> 01:17:56,640
Speaker 2: onlink and then relink.

1679
01:17:56,320 --> 01:17:59,040
Speaker 4: Back, re relink, just relinking.

1680
01:17:59,360 --> 01:18:02,160
Speaker 6: Yeah, Sarah went home and my brother passed out on

1681
01:18:02,280 --> 01:18:05,559
Speaker 6: our couch. Saturday morning, we ate breakfast and he said

1682
01:18:05,560 --> 01:18:09,120
Speaker 6: that he was going later that afternoon. About two weeks later,

1683
01:18:09,280 --> 01:18:12,600
Speaker 6: I got angry messages from Kim asking me if I

1684
01:18:12,760 --> 01:18:17,040
Speaker 6: knew about Sarah and Gary sleeping together? You knew it?

1685
01:18:17,479 --> 01:18:18,960
Speaker 4: Do you? I mean, do you think that's what happened?

1686
01:18:20,000 --> 01:18:20,120
Speaker 1: Oh?

1687
01:18:20,200 --> 01:18:23,479
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think so. I was shocked.

1688
01:18:24,040 --> 01:18:30,280
Speaker 6: Where Wow, when I was flabbergasted. I showed my husband

1689
01:18:30,320 --> 01:18:32,600
Speaker 6: the screenshot of the messages between them, and he was

1690
01:18:33,080 --> 01:18:38,000
Speaker 6: just as sickened by the reactions. It turns out that

1691
01:18:38,080 --> 01:18:42,280
Speaker 6: Gary Gary went to Sarah's house that Saturday afternoon and

1692
01:18:42,439 --> 01:18:43,320
Speaker 6: spent evening.

1693
01:18:43,560 --> 01:18:45,799
Speaker 4: Oh I guess I guess it's true doing puzzles.

1694
01:18:47,040 --> 01:18:49,519
Speaker 6: Yeah, what they were just you know, they were just

1695
01:18:49,600 --> 01:18:51,400
Speaker 6: trying to fit the pieces together.

1696
01:18:52,040 --> 01:18:53,160
Speaker 4: Puzzles together.

1697
01:18:53,360 --> 01:18:54,840
Speaker 2: I do puzzles all the time.

1698
01:18:55,320 --> 01:18:56,439
Speaker 4: That's why you're so tired right now?

1699
01:18:56,520 --> 01:19:02,120
Speaker 6: Man, Okay, all right. My heart broke for Kim, even

1700
01:19:02,200 --> 01:19:04,960
Speaker 6: though we had no real relationship. It is awful to

1701
01:19:05,040 --> 01:19:08,960
Speaker 6: get cheated on, so I supported her. I phoned Sarah

1702
01:19:09,040 --> 01:19:12,719
Speaker 6: and started screaming at her, asking her what the fudge

1703
01:19:12,880 --> 01:19:16,400
Speaker 6: was wrong with her. She cried and instead of apologizing,

1704
01:19:16,640 --> 01:19:23,120
Speaker 6: asked me to talk to Kim to not tell her boyfriend. Sarah. Basically,

1705
01:19:23,320 --> 01:19:25,360
Speaker 6: Op called her best friend Sarah and was like, how

1706
01:19:25,560 --> 01:19:30,240
Speaker 6: could you cheat with Gary? My brother? And then Kim

1707
01:19:30,400 --> 01:19:33,120
Speaker 6: was like, or sorry, Sarah. Sarah was like, don't, Like,

1708
01:19:33,280 --> 01:19:34,960
Speaker 6: can you call Kim and make sure she doesn't tell

1709
01:19:35,000 --> 01:19:35,559
Speaker 6: my boyfriend?

1710
01:19:35,640 --> 01:19:35,840
Speaker 4: Oh?

1711
01:19:35,920 --> 01:19:37,600
Speaker 6: Wow? Audacity?

1712
01:19:37,760 --> 01:19:40,640
Speaker 4: Yeah, audacity, audacity.

1713
01:19:41,200 --> 01:19:43,200
Speaker 6: I told her in no uncertain terms that if she

1714
01:19:43,320 --> 01:19:46,799
Speaker 6: doesn't tell him and Kim does, that is not my problem.

1715
01:19:47,479 --> 01:19:49,800
Speaker 6: I told Kim that if she needed anything, I'm there.

1716
01:19:50,200 --> 01:19:52,600
Speaker 6: I also told Gary that he left up and he

1717
01:19:52,760 --> 01:19:56,720
Speaker 6: needed to make things right with everyone. Now here's where

1718
01:19:56,760 --> 01:20:00,400
Speaker 6: I apparently am the a hole. Kim for bab Gary

1719
01:20:00,520 --> 01:20:02,720
Speaker 6: to come over to our house since she believed their

1720
01:20:02,760 --> 01:20:07,479
Speaker 6: chemistry developed there wa Kim's staying with Gary.

1721
01:20:08,080 --> 01:20:14,960
Speaker 4: So so cam for babe. Yes, bade Gary from going

1722
01:20:15,040 --> 01:20:16,840
Speaker 4: over to his own sister sister's house.

1723
01:20:16,960 --> 01:20:20,160
Speaker 6: Yes, because he believed that Sarah and Gary's chemistry developed there.

1724
01:20:20,600 --> 01:20:24,320
Speaker 6: Why aren't you breaking up with Gary? I told Kim

1725
01:20:24,400 --> 01:20:26,240
Speaker 6: that if Gary wanted to come over, he could.

1726
01:20:26,520 --> 01:20:26,720
Speaker 7: Yeah.

1727
01:20:26,920 --> 01:20:29,200
Speaker 6: She then told me that Sarah was not welcome at

1728
01:20:29,280 --> 01:20:32,439
Speaker 6: our house. I again shut it down and told her

1729
01:20:32,439 --> 01:20:34,439
Speaker 6: I wouldn't invite Sarah over if Gary was there and

1730
01:20:34,560 --> 01:20:38,120
Speaker 6: vice versa. But it but it is our choice.

1731
01:20:38,280 --> 01:20:43,920
Speaker 4: It's not if if Opie's best friend can come over

1732
01:20:44,040 --> 01:20:44,759
Speaker 4: to her house.

1733
01:20:44,840 --> 01:20:47,000
Speaker 6: Also, like Kim, just break it with Gary. Why are

1734
01:20:47,040 --> 01:20:49,120
Speaker 6: you staying with Gary? You're twenty you have a whole

1735
01:20:49,160 --> 01:20:52,519
Speaker 6: life to live. I had a long conversation with my

1736
01:20:52,600 --> 01:20:56,320
Speaker 6: fiance and we decided that our wedding would stayus is.

1737
01:20:57,160 --> 01:20:59,400
Speaker 6: I was fuming at Sarah, but she was my best

1738
01:20:59,439 --> 01:21:01,040
Speaker 6: friend and my son's godmother.

1739
01:21:01,400 --> 01:21:01,559
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1740
01:21:01,640 --> 01:21:05,960
Speaker 4: Also like NP's experience, like to have your best friend

1741
01:21:06,000 --> 01:21:07,040
Speaker 4: hook up with your brother.

1742
01:21:07,160 --> 01:21:09,960
Speaker 6: Yeah, not a good look, Not a good look. I

1743
01:21:10,080 --> 01:21:13,200
Speaker 6: completely understood where Kim was coming from, and I asked

1744
01:21:13,240 --> 01:21:15,240
Speaker 6: her if there was anything surrounding the wedding where they

1745
01:21:15,280 --> 01:21:18,080
Speaker 6: didn't have to see Sarah. I wouldn't let it happen.

1746
01:21:19,640 --> 01:21:21,880
Speaker 6: At this point, the only events that were left were

1747
01:21:21,920 --> 01:21:24,720
Speaker 6: our bachelor parties, and it was separate, so it would

1748
01:21:24,760 --> 01:21:27,560
Speaker 6: only be the wedding. I moved the seating charts so

1749
01:21:27,600 --> 01:21:30,360
Speaker 6: they wouldn't be close together. I kept having separate meetings

1750
01:21:30,400 --> 01:21:32,840
Speaker 6: with the groomsmen and the bride'smaids so they wouldn't see

1751
01:21:32,840 --> 01:21:35,800
Speaker 6: each other. But at the end of the day, it

1752
01:21:36,120 --> 01:21:40,000
Speaker 6: wasn't enough. Kim then said that if Sarah was invited,

1753
01:21:40,280 --> 01:21:43,080
Speaker 6: she would not attend. But like, you don't like Kim.

1754
01:21:44,360 --> 01:21:47,519
Speaker 6: Wait one, Kim saying that if Sarah comes, she's not

1755
01:21:47,600 --> 01:21:50,160
Speaker 6: gonna come. Yeah, but you don't like Kim, So, like,

1756
01:21:50,240 --> 01:21:52,920
Speaker 6: does it really matter if she doesn't attend? Oh, like

1757
01:21:53,280 --> 01:21:55,960
Speaker 6: does it matter? I mean, if you're gonna be friends

1758
01:21:56,000 --> 01:21:58,400
Speaker 6: with Sarah, that's your own choice, because she's clearly like

1759
01:21:58,520 --> 01:22:06,160
Speaker 6: made some moral bad judgments, morally bad judgments, but moral lapses.

1760
01:22:06,280 --> 01:22:09,120
Speaker 6: But uh, you said you're still gonna be friends with

1761
01:22:09,200 --> 01:22:12,080
Speaker 6: Sarah and you don't like Kim, So does she do

1762
01:22:12,200 --> 01:22:13,080
Speaker 6: we care if she attends?

1763
01:22:15,000 --> 01:22:15,200
Speaker 2: Yeah?

1764
01:22:15,240 --> 01:22:20,519
Speaker 4: And also, Sarah is theid Yah bridesmaid, so she's definitely

1765
01:22:20,560 --> 01:22:21,200
Speaker 4: coming to the wedding.

1766
01:22:22,280 --> 01:22:24,800
Speaker 6: I told her that I respected her decision, but I

1767
01:22:24,800 --> 01:22:28,160
Speaker 6: would leave a spot for her just in case. My

1768
01:22:28,280 --> 01:22:30,200
Speaker 6: brother assured me that he would be there, and we

1769
01:22:30,360 --> 01:22:34,360
Speaker 6: tried to accommodate Kim the most. Two months before the wedding,

1770
01:22:34,560 --> 01:22:37,280
Speaker 6: Gary stopped at her house and he was just venting

1771
01:22:37,360 --> 01:22:39,760
Speaker 6: about how stupid of a decision it was and that

1772
01:22:39,920 --> 01:22:43,120
Speaker 6: Kim treats him horribly. I told him that he needed

1773
01:22:43,160 --> 01:22:45,559
Speaker 6: to fix things, and even made her a special bouquet

1774
01:22:45,760 --> 01:22:48,640
Speaker 6: of roses and a bracelet so that she would know

1775
01:22:48,760 --> 01:22:49,719
Speaker 6: she had some support.

1776
01:22:50,280 --> 01:22:53,240
Speaker 4: This is weird. It's gonna get weird.

1777
01:22:53,479 --> 01:22:56,760
Speaker 6: This is okay. The next day, Kim sent me a

1778
01:22:56,840 --> 01:22:59,240
Speaker 6: horrible message on how I knew she didn't want Gary

1779
01:22:59,280 --> 01:23:01,560
Speaker 6: at her house and how I'm a B word for

1780
01:23:01,680 --> 01:23:03,800
Speaker 6: letting him into our home after what he did.

1781
01:23:05,320 --> 01:23:07,800
Speaker 4: What Kim was I, you'r a B word for letting

1782
01:23:07,840 --> 01:23:09,920
Speaker 4: your own brother into your house home.

1783
01:23:10,320 --> 01:23:12,519
Speaker 6: I told her that even though I sympathized, Gary was

1784
01:23:12,600 --> 01:23:14,799
Speaker 6: my brother and he was welcome at her home anytime

1785
01:23:16,120 --> 01:23:18,519
Speaker 6: we got into a heated argument and she hung up

1786
01:23:18,600 --> 01:23:21,320
Speaker 6: on me. Gary asked what happened, and I sent him

1787
01:23:21,320 --> 01:23:25,160
Speaker 6: screenshots which he read but never replied to about a

1788
01:23:25,200 --> 01:23:27,440
Speaker 6: week later, I got my hair done and my hairdresser

1789
01:23:27,479 --> 01:23:31,360
Speaker 6: a party girl herself. Sheepishly admitted that she knew Kim

1790
01:23:31,560 --> 01:23:33,320
Speaker 6: was actively cheating on Gary.

1791
01:23:34,320 --> 01:23:35,919
Speaker 4: Dude, this is guy wild.

1792
01:23:38,640 --> 01:23:40,920
Speaker 6: She had photos of Kim sitting on some guy's lap

1793
01:23:41,000 --> 01:23:44,240
Speaker 6: and a video of her rubbing herself against him. How

1794
01:23:44,280 --> 01:23:46,479
Speaker 6: do I know it was recent? She was wearing the

1795
01:23:46,600 --> 01:23:53,760
Speaker 6: bracelet I gave her at other recent news. You can

1796
01:23:53,840 --> 01:23:56,519
Speaker 6: join us live every weekd at three PMPSD on YouTube,

1797
01:23:56,560 --> 01:24:00,599
Speaker 6: on Facebook, on TikTok just tap her profile. But we're

1798
01:24:00,600 --> 01:24:04,080
Speaker 6: even talk before we finish this story, what is Kim

1799
01:24:04,280 --> 01:24:08,080
Speaker 6: still here? Okay, okay? Ignoring Like, let's.

1800
01:24:07,880 --> 01:24:10,400
Speaker 4: Say no one likes Kim, even her own partner.

1801
01:24:10,720 --> 01:24:13,160
Speaker 6: Let's say let's just like, let's ignore the fact that

1802
01:24:13,280 --> 01:24:15,680
Speaker 6: Kim fully is cheating on Gary for a second, just

1803
01:24:15,760 --> 01:24:19,439
Speaker 6: like put that to the side. Oh he never liked Kim.

1804
01:24:20,120 --> 01:24:20,639
Speaker 6: Count one?

1805
01:24:20,960 --> 01:24:22,680
Speaker 4: Oh p uh.

1806
01:24:23,080 --> 01:24:25,479
Speaker 6: It's your house and Kim keeps trying to tell you

1807
01:24:28,120 --> 01:24:33,679
Speaker 6: house count two? Count three? Why why are you trying

1808
01:24:33,760 --> 01:24:36,759
Speaker 6: to apologize to Kim Like I'm sorry.

1809
01:24:36,600 --> 01:24:38,800
Speaker 4: If my I think she's trying to be sweet, like,

1810
01:24:40,280 --> 01:24:43,080
Speaker 4: but then Kim is like trying to put boundaries on

1811
01:24:43,400 --> 01:24:44,240
Speaker 4: Opie's house.

1812
01:24:44,479 --> 01:24:48,080
Speaker 6: Yeah, that's really like brothers almost x. I don't know.

1813
01:24:48,120 --> 01:24:49,679
Speaker 6: They're still kind of together. It's weird.

1814
01:24:49,880 --> 01:24:50,759
Speaker 4: They're very much together.

1815
01:24:50,800 --> 01:24:51,360
Speaker 6: They're together.

1816
01:24:51,680 --> 01:24:54,719
Speaker 4: They should be exes, Okay, and then now now she cheated.

1817
01:24:55,080 --> 01:24:57,639
Speaker 6: Yeah, so it's like you literally stop talking to Kim.

1818
01:24:58,040 --> 01:25:03,479
Speaker 6: No one likes Kim. There's more. The hairdresser then told

1819
01:25:03,520 --> 01:25:06,320
Speaker 6: me she told Gary and sent him the videos. He

1820
01:25:06,439 --> 01:25:07,439
Speaker 6: said nothing back.

1821
01:25:07,640 --> 01:25:09,120
Speaker 4: How long ago did she tell Gary?

1822
01:25:09,640 --> 01:25:12,759
Speaker 6: That's a good question. I decided that this isn't my circus.

1823
01:25:13,160 --> 01:25:15,840
Speaker 6: He knew and they both did crappy things, so I

1824
01:25:16,080 --> 01:25:19,160
Speaker 6: was going to focus on our wedding. Gary phoned me

1825
01:25:19,280 --> 01:25:21,840
Speaker 6: that night and Kim was screaming in the background that

1826
01:25:21,920 --> 01:25:24,720
Speaker 6: I was revenge cheating and she would let him know

1827
01:25:24,840 --> 01:25:26,760
Speaker 6: when she was done screwing the gun.

1828
01:25:26,920 --> 01:25:30,120
Speaker 4: Oh my god, Gary told me that pinus.

1829
01:25:30,280 --> 01:25:30,479
Speaker 5: Yeah.

1830
01:25:30,880 --> 01:25:32,840
Speaker 6: Gary told me that if Sarah was going to the wedding,

1831
01:25:33,360 --> 01:25:38,760
Speaker 6: he will not wait. Why because probably Kim is like,

1832
01:25:38,800 --> 01:25:40,439
Speaker 6: you can't go to the wedding of Sarah's going because

1833
01:25:40,439 --> 01:25:45,840
Speaker 6: he cheated with Sarah. My heart sunk. I cried for weeks,

1834
01:25:46,120 --> 01:25:49,320
Speaker 6: but Gary had blocked me on everything and refused to

1835
01:25:49,360 --> 01:25:49,800
Speaker 6: speak to me.

1836
01:25:49,880 --> 01:25:51,840
Speaker 4: This is why is Gary blocking you?

1837
01:25:52,160 --> 01:25:56,400
Speaker 6: This is someone who literally saved his life his sister.

1838
01:25:56,320 --> 01:26:00,360
Speaker 4: His sister and the one person that's supported him throughout everything.

1839
01:26:00,400 --> 01:26:04,200
Speaker 4: And also, what did Opie even do nothing Gary? Gary

1840
01:26:04,439 --> 01:26:07,719
Speaker 4: was the one who che did on his partner with Sarah,

1841
01:26:08,360 --> 01:26:10,439
Speaker 4: and why is it Opie's.

1842
01:26:10,800 --> 01:26:12,880
Speaker 6: I feel like that's the thing with people pleasing like

1843
01:26:13,000 --> 01:26:15,320
Speaker 6: you go. You jump through so many hoops to try

1844
01:26:15,360 --> 01:26:18,120
Speaker 6: and please everyone, and they're still not gonna be happy

1845
01:26:18,640 --> 01:26:22,840
Speaker 6: because they're taking advantage of you. Sarah was aware of

1846
01:26:22,960 --> 01:26:26,160
Speaker 6: everything and decided that she wouldn't attend the wedding, So

1847
01:26:26,320 --> 01:26:29,360
Speaker 6: two of the most important people didn't attend. Wait, so

1848
01:26:29,520 --> 01:26:34,840
Speaker 6: Gary didn't come or Sarah. Here we are two years later,

1849
01:26:35,439 --> 01:26:38,639
Speaker 6: and I haven't spoken to Gary, Kim or Sarah since.

1850
01:26:39,880 --> 01:26:43,200
Speaker 6: Was I wrong for not cutting one of them off immediately?

1851
01:26:43,640 --> 01:26:45,439
Speaker 6: I feel like it was a mess they made and

1852
01:26:45,600 --> 01:26:47,559
Speaker 6: Kim had no right to tell me to cut Sarah off.

1853
01:26:48,160 --> 01:26:50,920
Speaker 6: But with all of this time passed, I still wonder

1854
01:26:51,000 --> 01:26:52,360
Speaker 6: if I did anything wrong.

1855
01:26:52,400 --> 01:26:53,559
Speaker 4: I don't know you did anything.

1856
01:26:53,800 --> 01:26:56,439
Speaker 6: No, you didn't do literally just got dragged into this

1857
01:26:56,640 --> 01:26:57,679
Speaker 6: really messy situation.

1858
01:26:57,880 --> 01:27:00,080
Speaker 4: I don't think it was necessary to cut anyone and

1859
01:27:00,200 --> 01:27:02,639
Speaker 4: off again, like you said it was Kim, but yeah,

1860
01:27:03,080 --> 01:27:06,040
Speaker 4: but I mean, but it wasn't that wo Like Op

1861
01:27:06,240 --> 01:27:08,960
Speaker 4: wasn't wronged in any way by anyone. Kim was being

1862
01:27:09,080 --> 01:27:11,720
Speaker 4: ridiculous by making requests, But you didn't need to cut

1863
01:27:11,800 --> 01:27:14,760
Speaker 4: her off because of these requests, just like ignore it. Yeah,

1864
01:27:15,640 --> 01:27:17,920
Speaker 4: but no one needed to be cut off on your end.

1865
01:27:18,160 --> 01:27:21,280
Speaker 4: They in their own mess of relationships could cut each

1866
01:27:21,280 --> 01:27:21,680
Speaker 4: other off.

1867
01:27:21,800 --> 01:27:24,439
Speaker 6: They literally dragged you into it for no reason other

1868
01:27:24,520 --> 01:27:25,680
Speaker 6: than you knew all three of them.

1869
01:27:25,760 --> 01:27:27,920
Speaker 4: Yeah, but I don't know why they're not talking to

1870
01:27:27,960 --> 01:27:31,320
Speaker 4: Op anymore. He did not do anything. Also, just the

1871
01:27:31,360 --> 01:27:36,120
Speaker 4: fact that Gary still with this Kim and it just

1872
01:27:36,200 --> 01:27:40,160
Speaker 4: makes me sad. And she's pissed off because again like

1873
01:27:40,400 --> 01:27:44,679
Speaker 4: Op was the only one there for her brother people

1874
01:27:44,760 --> 01:27:47,599
Speaker 4: really Yeah, and then her brother's gonna cut her off

1875
01:27:47,720 --> 01:27:48,599
Speaker 4: for no reason.

1876
01:27:50,160 --> 01:27:52,479
Speaker 6: Weird, But that is the end of that story.