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Speaker 1: Welcome to stuff Mom Never told you from Houstuffworks dot com. Hello,

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Speaker 1: and welcome to the podcast. I'm Kristen and I'm Caroline,

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Speaker 1: and I should probably also say happy holidays, because tis

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Speaker 1: the season, Caroline for food waste. Oh yeah, this is

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Speaker 1: the most wasteful time of the year. Oh gosh, I

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Speaker 1: don't okay, I'm not angry. I'm not going to get angry.

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Speaker 1: But this is a report that we found over at UPI.

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Speaker 1: Americans waste three times more food than usual between Thanksgiving

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Speaker 1: and New Year's We're just throwing food away left and right. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: that is an extra five million tons of food. Five

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Speaker 1: million tons of food, which equates to about two hundred

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Speaker 1: and eighty two million dollars just trash. To be fair,

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Speaker 1: at least one of those tons is probably just fruitcake,

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Speaker 1: unwanted fruitcakes. Yeah, turkey carcasses. Yes, But even during the year,

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Speaker 1: this is no big surprise, I'm sure to any of

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Speaker 1: our listeners. Food waste is a huge problem. Yeah. This

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Speaker 1: is coming from the Natural Resources Defense Council, which estimates

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Speaker 1: that outside of the holidays, just in general, Americans trash

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Speaker 1: nearly half of our entire food supply, about forty percent

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Speaker 1: and Dana Gunders, who's a food project scientist with the

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Speaker 1: nr DC, says that you can imagine it like this.

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Speaker 1: It's basically like you go to the grocery store, you

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Speaker 1: get three bags worth of groceries, and on your way out,

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Speaker 1: you just drop one, yeah, in the parking lot. You're like,

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Speaker 1: I'll just leave that behind that, I won't bother picking

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Speaker 1: that up. This This council also says that the average

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Speaker 1: American family of four ends up throwing away about two

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Speaker 1: two hundred and seventy five dollars annually in food. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: and it's not like we have any kind of pressing

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Speaker 1: economic problems, you know, or food shortages anywhere else around

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Speaker 1: the world. Probably not. Yeah, no, no big deal. That

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Speaker 1: was sarcasm, everybody. Yeah. But one thing that food scientists

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Speaker 1: like Dana Gunders will point to you as a reason

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Speaker 1: why Americans are so wasteful are because we are perhaps

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Speaker 1: a little too vigilant when it comes to food expiration dates.

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Speaker 1: Now obviously, like with food born diseases and scares where

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Speaker 1: you know you have like bad peanut butter, Oh no,

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Speaker 1: everyone freaks out. I think maybe we we throw away

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Speaker 1: before we really need to. Yeah, Like I was just

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Speaker 1: telling Kristin about how my mother threw away a container

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Speaker 1: of orange juice three days before even at cell by date,

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Speaker 1: which we'll explain the whole difference between cell by versus

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Speaker 1: used by, et cetera, et cetera. But so, anyway, she

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Speaker 1: threw it away because she saw and it's clear container

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Speaker 1: that it had separated, and she's like, eh, I don't

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Speaker 1: know what that is. Well, mother, it's orange juice. You

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Speaker 1: just shake it just like a shakewaight, sally? Uh So, yeah,

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Speaker 1: my mother is a good example of maybe what is

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Speaker 1: wrong with our attitudes toward food or just our ideas

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Speaker 1: and our misconceptions about expiration dates. Yeah, and uh, there

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Speaker 1: really isn't a huge gendered angle to look at in

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Speaker 1: this conversation. But since it is the holiday, since we

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Speaker 1: all must live from food, I figured, you know, it's

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Speaker 1: a good opportunity to to learn some things about how

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Speaker 1: to become savvier consumers and you know, treat treat the

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Speaker 1: world a little a little better. So let's talk about

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Speaker 1: what exactly those dates are that we see on food,

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Speaker 1: because not everything is not every date means the same thing. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: so we have a cell by date and that is

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Speaker 1: really telling the store not you. It's telling the store

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Speaker 1: how long to display a product for sale. Then you

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Speaker 1: have the best if used by or before date, which

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Speaker 1: is recommended for the use of the product while at

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Speaker 1: peak quality. And that kind of touches on the whole

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Speaker 1: thing about expiration dates, which is that they are more

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Speaker 1: about quality and freshness than they are about safety. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: the USDA does not regulate these kinds of expiration dates.

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Speaker 1: In fact, only when it comes to infant formula and

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Speaker 1: certain baby foods are package dates ever regulated by the

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Speaker 1: federal government. A lot of this comes down to a

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Speaker 1: state by state basis, and also on manufacturers' terms. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: there was a great Slate story back in February twenty

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Speaker 1: But the writer kind of explained why they are so conservative,

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Speaker 1: laziest people with the most undesirable kitchens might store and

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Speaker 1: makes sense because you know, they probably all these food

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Speaker 1: manufacturers also want to cover themselves in terms of any liabilities.

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Speaker 1: the very worst food consumer out there who just doesn't

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Speaker 1: That is what the expiration dates are there for. And

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Speaker 1: also in that Slate article, Nadia Roumagom talks about the

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Speaker 1: evolution of these expiration dates and she cites Consumer Reports

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Speaker 1: as one of the major reasons why they exist. Basically,

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Speaker 1: and in the nineteen thirties, she writes the magazine Consumer

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Speaker 1: Reports argue that Americans increasingly look to expiration dates as

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Speaker 1: an indication of freshness and quality. And then in the

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Speaker 1: nineteen seventies we have more supermarkets and food chains implementing

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Speaker 1: their own dating systems, and she says, despite the fact

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Speaker 1: that in the seventies and the eighties, consumer groups and

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Speaker 1: the processors held hearings to establish a federally regulated system.

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Speaker 1: Nothing came of them. So these dates are just They're

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Speaker 1: not out of thin air, but they are. They're more

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Speaker 1: And speaking of grocery stores and supermarkets, they are certainly

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Speaker 1: not innocent of food waste. There's massive food waste that

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Speaker 1: I mean, just think about all of the food at

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Speaker 1: I felt much better reading a Forbes story that explained

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Speaker 1: this was according to supermarket consultant David J. Livingston, who

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Speaker 1: said that fresh vegetables and meats are often cooked up

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Speaker 1: So that's good, that's one place that they go. Now,

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Speaker 1: a portion of it is inevitably thrown into the garbage

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Speaker 1: outside supermarket freagans. So talking about freagins, there's an article

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Speaker 1: on how stuff works if you aren't familiar with Freaganism,

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Speaker 1: called how Freagans work, and basically they will. I remember

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Speaker 1: were a little more. They were a little more of

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Speaker 1: the Dunkin Donuts in town and they figured out the

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Speaker 1: time when they would toss out all of the old

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Speaker 1: I just picture that Portlandia sketch it. Yeah, it's very

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Speaker 1: And also there was a two thousand and five FMI

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Speaker 1: And Forbes talked to one owner of one of these

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Speaker 1: well because they realized that, you know, this food is

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Speaker 1: But we should point out though, with the package dates,

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Speaker 1: com slash mom. And now back to our letters. Here's

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Speaker 1: a letter from Michel about our podcast on interracial marriage.

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Speaker 1: Michel writes, my parents were married eight years after Loving

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Speaker 1: Versus Virginia. Technically, interracial marriage was legal in their state

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Speaker 1: interracial couples because they are represent my parents too, despite

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Speaker 1: also hails from Atlga. Hello neighbor. She says, I am,

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Speaker 1: By that, I mean every kind of Anglo Saxon guild,

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Speaker 1: So when we heard both of our fathers say he's

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