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Speaker 3: The World's a vaginal podcast. Welcome to Patriots Unfiltered. Yeah, no,

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Speaker 3: it was. It was a jail break up. The a

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Speaker 4: Probably more geared to Evan, because I know you watched

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Speaker 4: the film, Mike, I did grind it again yesterday? Did

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Speaker 4: you grind it again? I'll open it to you. Good

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Speaker 3: Now, did you get announced when you walked into the arena?

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Speaker 1: No bill back Champion Mike dassaults.

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Speaker 4: The thing that you've been most impressed about with Brissette

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Speaker 4: through the Five Gays, toughness, right, So that's perfect. Finally

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Speaker 4: I asked her question and he got it right.

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Speaker 1: I always get scared when you asked me a question like

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Speaker 1: what road are you trying to.

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Speaker 3: Walk me down?

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Speaker 1: Paul, I'm not going to Mount.

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Speaker 4: Cooks with you bring high comedy generally, Paul. You know,

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Speaker 4: like when you insist that Christian Ellis didn't interfere with

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Speaker 4: that guy.

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Speaker 3: I thought the ball was whizzing by. I thought it

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Speaker 4: It's it's like eight yards.

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Speaker 3: I mean, he didn't have to tackle.

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Speaker 3: All right, welcome to Patriots Unfiltered. It is Wednesday here

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Speaker 3: at Gillette Stadium, and never a dull moment.

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Speaker 4: Hupaul to busy Wednesday.

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Speaker 3: Busy Wednesday. Uh, we're gonna talk all about it. Of course.

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Speaker 3: The main headline is Evan's not here. No, I'm only kidding.

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Speaker 3: The main headline is Drake may Era has begun.

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Speaker 4: I'm gonna bow to you, mister Curtis.

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Speaker 3: He listen to Blind Squirrel, Blind Squarel finds a nut

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Speaker 3: every Sunday postgame.

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Speaker 4: And then yesterday for PU you were on this. You

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Speaker 4: thought that all the signs were coming. Obviously we all

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Speaker 4: when it was coming. I thought it would be another week.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, well listen, I thought it was gonna be week one,

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Speaker 4: I was hoping for a week.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, but you know, listen, I'm excited, anxious, nervous. I

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Speaker 4: Uh, how you can't feel excitement at least. I mean,

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Speaker 4: I don't know about nervous or anything like that. But

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Speaker 4: chance to watch him play for the first time. That's exciting.

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Speaker 3: You don't know how he's gonna play, you don't know

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Speaker 3: Whatever the plan was, it had to be open ended. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: what I'm saying, Like, of course it has to be

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Speaker 4: And I think you know, like and a lot of these.

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Speaker 4: the true, honest answer. Drod Mayo, Alex van Pelt, all

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Speaker 4: only part of this the criticism, I don't understand.

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Speaker 3: If you and if you're worried about him, like you know,

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Speaker 4: Like that's my point. Nothing changes, nothing changes. Oh, he'd

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Speaker 4: Of the things he said too, We got a chance

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Speaker 4: the process, like making sure he's running the office here.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, and that you know, that's not why you know,

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Speaker 3: What you So that's that's the big news today. You're

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Speaker 4: So it's good, which is really good for the team

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Speaker 3: It takes it out of your hands and now we'll

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Speaker 3: We'll see, you know, this process. So so that's that's

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Speaker 4: Yeah, sixty seven yard touchdown and didn't play another play

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Speaker 1: So I thought about that too, this will make Paul

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Speaker 1: Then there's gonna be probably five or six plays. You're like, Drake,

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Speaker 1: could they wait? Like everyone's gonna know, like they're gonna

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Speaker 1: go out there and see raps like then they have

436
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Speaker 1: to do all this other subster views and like, is

437
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Speaker 1: Houston really gonna be like, oh my god, it's Drake May.

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Speaker 1: What a rookie has never played a game? What are

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Speaker 1: we gonna do? Like, I don't think it's that big

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Speaker 1: of a switch going from you know, Jacob from a

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Speaker 1: defensive standpoint. If I'm Demico, Ryan's like, we're just gonna

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Speaker 1: do what we do. These guys can't really block. We're

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Speaker 1: gonna attack no matter who.

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Speaker 3: The quarterback is.

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Speaker 4: I'm sorry, it's no I know that. And I had

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Speaker 4: you know, a couple of people were like me today.

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Speaker 4: One in particular, was having some fun with me. He's like, oh,

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Speaker 4: just Devin. Not nobody's talking about either, And I'm like, no,

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Speaker 4: well can't we disagree like without it being like, you know,

450
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Speaker 4: one guy doesn't know what he's talking about and another guy,

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Speaker 4: you know is I just don't think it's really done

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Speaker 4: that way with quarterbacks. I think in general terms, quarterback,

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Speaker 4: when you make a quarter you know, like when and

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Speaker 4: I know this is Carolina, every's gonna say, well, that's

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Speaker 4: why they shuck. You know, Carolina didn't say, oh, I

456
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Speaker 4: don't know it could be Bryce Young this week or

457
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Speaker 4: Randy Dalton. No, they made him switch. Yeah, it's nice

458
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Speaker 4: you let everybody know.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's not like you're, you know, starting a safety.

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Speaker 4: That's different.

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Speaker 3: Quarterback. You know you're gonna have to now devote the

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Speaker 3: entire week in practice to this guy. You got fifty

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Speaker 3: three guys, you got coaches, you got assistants. The news

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Speaker 3: is going to get out there. If I'm a coach,

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Speaker 3: I'd rather have the news come from me than from

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Speaker 3: somebody else and then have it all speculation all week.

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Speaker 3: Just just get it over with, you know.

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Speaker 4: And I just I think back Belichick was as secretive

469
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Speaker 4: about absolutely every element of his football team as you

470
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Speaker 4: could be, and he didn't do it that way either.

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Speaker 4: He generally announced his quarterback.

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Speaker 3: What's the most famous one? Super Bowl Week? He announced

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Speaker 3: Brady's gonna be the quarterback.

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Speaker 4: Yeah. He could have waited, he could have, But that one,

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Speaker 4: to me, was more for his team, Like there is

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Speaker 4: no there's no debate here.

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Speaker 3: It's Tom Well and that's what he's doing too. It's

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Speaker 3: for his No.

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Speaker 4: No, I agree, I'm agreeing with you, bro. Bro, We're

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Speaker 4: all on the same side.

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Speaker 3: Ye.

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Speaker 4: No, But I just think It's one thing to say

483
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Speaker 4: at the Super Bowl that Tom Brady's ankle is okay

484
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Speaker 4: and he's gonna play. He did it with Cam Newton.

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Speaker 4: Every week he said, no, Cam's the quarterback every week

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Speaker 4: because every week he was asked. In twenty twenty, the

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Speaker 4: offense was every bit as bad as it's been right now,

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Speaker 4: and every week, no, no, no, Cam's the quarterback. Cam's the

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Speaker 4: starting quarterback, right not Jared's did. It's going to be Cam?

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Speaker 4: He did it. That was Belichick, who wouldn't tell you anything,

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Speaker 4: you know, because for fear that it was given the

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Speaker 4: opponent an advantage.

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Speaker 3: And maybe one of our fans who knows. But I

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Speaker 3: don't know of a situation where you know, a team

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Speaker 3: went from you know, a a bench you know, a

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Speaker 3: backup to now their new starting quarterback or reverse, you know,

497
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Speaker 3: the established starting quarterback is now being benched and that

498
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Speaker 3: was a game day decision. Like Ben McAdoo, for example,

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Speaker 3: I think when he benched, he announced that.

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Speaker 4: And I'm sure that people can come up with an example.

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Speaker 4: That's why, like, yeah, I don't know. Maybe I always

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Speaker 4: use the words no one, you know, like absolutes and

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Speaker 4: someone always I don't mean that it's never happened in

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Speaker 4: the history of football. I'm sure it has and I

505
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Speaker 4: just don't remember it, but not not exactly the same example.

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Speaker 1: But Belichick told the story recently on one of his

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Speaker 1: shows about Terrell Owens in Super Bowl thirty nine, and

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Speaker 1: Bill talked about, I'm talking to my doctor on the

509
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Speaker 1: team and he's saying, like, there's no way this guy's

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Speaker 1: gonna be able to play, and then he said they

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Speaker 1: got out there and you guys remember what he did

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Speaker 1: in that game, And it was like Belichick said, we

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Speaker 1: had to redo our whole game plan like that, Like

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Speaker 1: that's an example, but it's not the quarterback, you know,

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Speaker 1: but an example of all of a sudden the guy

516
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Speaker 1: is that you weren't expecting a superstar.

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Speaker 4: But that's also a different thing. That's an injury. And

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Speaker 4: I like Bill was very secretive with injuries, and I

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Speaker 4: can you know, I didn't agree with it, but I

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Speaker 4: could completely understand that you're you're leaving the other team

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Speaker 4: more to prepare for, like you're only preparing for one quarterback.

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Speaker 4: You know, it's either gonna be Brissett or it's gonna

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Speaker 4: be May Like it's the offense is all you know.

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Speaker 4: It's not like, right, Lamar Jackson's playing on Sunday or

525
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Speaker 4: Tom Brady's playing, which is two entirely different, you know,

526
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Speaker 4: game plans, right, that's my You know, we all know

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Speaker 4: that May brings more athleticism to the table than Bresett.

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Speaker 4: But he's gonna run the same offense that you've seen

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Speaker 4: the five. Hopefully better, but he's gonna run the same offense.

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Speaker 3: Now, there was that game, uh, the Wildcat game against

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Speaker 3: Miami where Miami came in and threw a loop. You know,

532
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Speaker 3: they threw a curve ball to the Patriots. The Patriots

533
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Speaker 3: were not prepared with.

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Speaker 4: The game plan. Right that Pennington was the quarterback, Right,

535
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Speaker 4: that was a game plan.

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Speaker 1: You know, Sephanie was running out wide, and Ricky Williams

537
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Speaker 1: and what was Ronnie Brown?

538
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Speaker 4: Ronnie Brown had running all over. Ronnie Brown had five touchdowns,

539
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Speaker 4: four rushing touchdowns, and he threw one to death. Was unbelievable.

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Speaker 4: We were just completely stunned in the press.

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Speaker 3: It reminded me of that Alabama Vanderbilt game. They just

542
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Speaker 3: couldn't stop it.

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Speaker 1: Because and I remember correctly, Brady got his towards a

544
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Speaker 1: cl They went and beat the Jets the next week

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Speaker 1: and then they came back for that was that week three,

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Speaker 1: I think, and that was around I want to say

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Speaker 1: about that, It's about right. He kind of felt Miami

548
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Speaker 1: was brutally bad in the first games and the Patriots

549
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Speaker 1: couldn't like stop it.

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Speaker 4: They couldn't figure it out.

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Speaker 1: And they had such an experienced defense too.

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Speaker 3: It was so frustrating they would.

553
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Speaker 1: Have been able to get it. Like you must have

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Speaker 1: thought after that Jets game, like, no, Brady, like we're

555
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Speaker 1: still gonna be competitive, and then all of a sudden,

556
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Speaker 1: like the defense gets exposed like that.

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Speaker 4: Like that was like thirty eight to thirteen or something

558
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Speaker 4: like that. That game was not.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, all right, I'm gonna have to leave early today.

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Speaker 3: I'm just warning everyone.

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Speaker 1: I'm just glad you're here to Startford. I was worried.

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Speaker 1: We got so much going on today.

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Speaker 4: I'm not sure I'm okay with you leaving early.

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Speaker 3: Well, I finally a big show.

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Speaker 4: It's a big day.

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Speaker 3: I'm gonna have to leave early.

567
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Speaker 4: Some people were calling for an emergency podcast last we.

568
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Speaker 3: Well, I told them the emergency podcast will be at

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Speaker 3: noon tomorrow.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, but now you'll leave it. I can't do it

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Speaker 4: without our fearless leaders.

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Speaker 3: Let's let's get to the listeners, and Evan will be

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Speaker 3: by at some point.

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Speaker 1: Right, he's in the locker right now that they're gonna Yeah.

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Speaker 4: So usually the last half hour or so on Wednesdays,

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Speaker 4: we should.

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Speaker 3: By the way, Uh, Matt, did you get the new

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Speaker 3: song the locker?

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Speaker 8: Uh?

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Speaker 3: Back from practice? Locker room song?

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Speaker 4: You guys can hear me? Oh gee, we got a

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Speaker 4: new song.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, don't play it.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm just teasing it. Okay, boy, I'm teasing it.

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Speaker 4: Okay, feedback now.

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Speaker 3: Okay, all right, let's go to the TPX outline. Chris

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Speaker 3: is and California.

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Speaker 9: What's up, Chris, Chris, Yes, hey, yes, this is Patriotson

589
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Speaker 9: filter Chris.

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Speaker 3: Okay, that's it for Chris.

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Speaker 7: Now.

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Speaker 3: I'm I mean like, you got to be ready, come on,

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Speaker 3: we could hear yeah, no, you got to be ready.

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Speaker 1: What I caught I of calling out Mike as a

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Speaker 1: subject on an email, and I feel like I may

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Speaker 1: want to maybe want to hear it. Maybe I don't.

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Speaker 4: Backup like that.

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Speaker 1: I know what's that calling out Mike? I just see

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Speaker 1: an email there with a title not down one down

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Speaker 1: to there you go, Tony. Tony's calling me out?

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Speaker 3: Want me to read it. He says. I emailed a

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Speaker 3: couple of weeks ago to say my expectations for the

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Speaker 3: season were low, but I did expect me to be

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Speaker 3: playing and learning. Mike responded, and I'm getting there, but

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Speaker 3: not until November, and Fred responded with things about playing

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Speaker 3: him early in money, which I don't understand. So my

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Speaker 3: question is, what has changed so much in the seven

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Speaker 3: days since I email held in to make such a

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Speaker 3: shift in Mike and Fred's views. Views haven't changed. I

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Speaker 3: wanted to play Week one.

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Speaker 4: I did too, but you thought he would play Week one.

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Speaker 1: That's what yeah, I think For me, it was the

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Speaker 1: last three games of the same exact watching the same

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Speaker 1: thing over and over again. And I mean, I said

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Speaker 1: November was when I would start to get the itch,

616
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Speaker 1: but the itch came early with watching those games like

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Speaker 1: unfold the way they did. It just didn't feel like

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Speaker 1: it was going to get better at that point, especially

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Speaker 1: with this last game.

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Speaker 3: I was like, well, and that's what I'm hoping happened,

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Speaker 3: is Girodd said, Listen, we're in mud here. It's just

622
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Speaker 3: not going to get better. He's ready enough. Put him in,

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Speaker 3: you know. I'm hoping that's how it went down.

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Speaker 4: I think that's quite reasonable.

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Speaker 1: Sounds about right.

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Speaker 3: Let's see everyone's emailing in about Drake May as as expected.

627
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Speaker 3: Guy writes in that's his name.

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Speaker 4: Guys, not just a guy.

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Speaker 3: Drake May is a talent. But my prediction May will

630
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Speaker 3: be sacked seven to eight times a game, if not more,

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Speaker 3: and will be seriously injured in the next five weeks.

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Speaker 3: Well Brissette wasn't anyway, Teams are gonna blitz him constantly.

633
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Speaker 3: Patriots are giving up ten to fifteen years of a

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Speaker 3: franchise quarterback for a couple more wins this year.

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Speaker 4: Okay, So why a lot of what he says. I

636
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Speaker 4: do expect May to get sacked more than Brissette was,

637
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Speaker 4: because I think young quarterbacks get sacked a lot. But

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Speaker 4: why is that sacrificing ten or fifteen years, like by

639
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Speaker 4: playing a couple of extra games, because like again, I

640
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Speaker 4: will get more down. This is one I want someone

641
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Speaker 4: to This is a project. And I know, like Boston,

642
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Speaker 4: you know the guy that on Twitter, Boston Sports Info,

643
00:27:43,520 --> 00:27:45,720
Speaker 4: who is phenomenal with this stuff. And I don't know

644
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Speaker 4: if he listens to our shows or not. I'd like

645
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Speaker 4: an example of a young quarterback who played who you

646
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Speaker 4: deemed played too soon, who suffered a career ending injury.

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Speaker 4: I'd like someone to give me that, Like I'm not

648
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Speaker 4: talking about like Anthony Richardson hurt himself and yeah, right back,

649
00:28:04,800 --> 00:28:09,080
Speaker 4: wasn't like a career ending injury, right, you know, and

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Speaker 4: the whole, like you guys know this, I'm a broken record,

651
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Speaker 4: like the whole like ruined, he got ruined, he played

652
00:28:15,760 --> 00:28:18,800
Speaker 4: too early, he got ruined. And you know there's there's

653
00:28:18,880 --> 00:28:21,359
Speaker 4: various guys that get thrown out there. So like Mac Jones,

654
00:28:21,480 --> 00:28:25,640
Speaker 4: let's keep it. It's close something that we're all familiar with. Right,

655
00:28:26,240 --> 00:28:28,760
Speaker 4: So Mac Jones played as a rookie in twenty twenty one,

656
00:28:29,080 --> 00:28:33,399
Speaker 4: and by twenty twenty four he was a Jacksonville Jaguar. Okay,

657
00:28:35,320 --> 00:28:37,120
Speaker 4: I think they did a lot of things to hurt him.

658
00:28:37,119 --> 00:28:40,000
Speaker 4: I'm not arguing that. But what did they do to

659
00:28:40,080 --> 00:28:41,960
Speaker 4: hurt him that involved playing him too early?

660
00:28:44,280 --> 00:28:44,480
Speaker 3: Right?

661
00:28:45,160 --> 00:28:45,200
Speaker 10: What?

662
00:28:45,920 --> 00:28:46,040
Speaker 7: Like?

663
00:28:46,080 --> 00:28:48,480
Speaker 4: What did you think that he was in twenty twenty one?

664
00:28:49,040 --> 00:28:51,120
Speaker 3: I think they stunted his growth in twenty one by

665
00:28:51,160 --> 00:28:52,440
Speaker 3: coddling him on the field.

666
00:28:52,480 --> 00:28:54,239
Speaker 4: But what do you think what do you think that

667
00:28:54,320 --> 00:28:57,560
Speaker 4: he like when he was playing in twenty one? I

668
00:28:57,560 --> 00:29:00,480
Speaker 4: think most Patriots fans would say, it's a pretty good year,

669
00:29:00,880 --> 00:29:03,920
Speaker 4: made the playoffs, won ten games. He you know, stood

670
00:29:03,920 --> 00:29:07,240
Speaker 4: firm in the pocket, played played, you know, not an

671
00:29:07,320 --> 00:29:10,520
Speaker 4: instrumental role in a lot of wins. But he was

672
00:29:10,560 --> 00:29:13,040
Speaker 4: okay as a rookie. People were saying they got the

673
00:29:13,080 --> 00:29:17,480
Speaker 4: best out of the fire, that rookie class. So it

674
00:29:17,560 --> 00:29:20,040
Speaker 4: all fell apart in year two. In year three for

675
00:29:20,120 --> 00:29:24,360
Speaker 4: a lot of reasons, Matt Patricia, you know, offensive line,

676
00:29:25,280 --> 00:29:27,400
Speaker 4: you know, strife with the head coach, we all know

677
00:29:27,520 --> 00:29:32,760
Speaker 4: all the things. But what specifically about playing him too

678
00:29:32,840 --> 00:29:36,680
Speaker 4: soon led to the downfall of mac Jones's Patriots career, right,

679
00:29:37,760 --> 00:29:42,479
Speaker 4: But yet that's that's gospel, yeah right. They played him

680
00:29:42,480 --> 00:29:46,040
Speaker 4: too soon, they ruined him when the best part about

681
00:29:46,280 --> 00:29:49,840
Speaker 4: him as a Patriot was that first part that was

682
00:29:49,880 --> 00:29:52,360
Speaker 4: the best we saw of mac Jones, was him playing

683
00:29:52,440 --> 00:29:55,360
Speaker 4: right away. Then the league adjusted to him and he

684
00:29:55,480 --> 00:29:58,440
Speaker 4: was no longer effective. Then they did some things that

685
00:29:58,480 --> 00:30:00,640
Speaker 4: didn't support him, and he was no longer unaffected.

686
00:30:00,920 --> 00:30:03,320
Speaker 1: I think that's what it's more cautionary tale for. It's

687
00:30:03,360 --> 00:30:05,800
Speaker 1: in year two, do you support the quarterback? You give him,

688
00:30:06,160 --> 00:30:08,200
Speaker 1: you know, those take to the next level kind of

689
00:30:08,240 --> 00:30:10,640
Speaker 1: pieces and give him, you know, not change his offense

690
00:30:10,720 --> 00:30:12,800
Speaker 1: up on him, trying to personally.

691
00:30:12,280 --> 00:30:14,400
Speaker 4: Think that he's not that good. But I'm gonna I'm

692
00:30:14,400 --> 00:30:16,720
Speaker 4: gonna make the argument for him and say he was

693
00:30:17,000 --> 00:30:19,360
Speaker 4: very good and he would have been very good for

694
00:30:19,480 --> 00:30:21,920
Speaker 4: years to come if they didn't screw him up. But

695
00:30:21,960 --> 00:30:24,280
Speaker 4: it had nothing to screw him up. Part had nothing

696
00:30:24,320 --> 00:30:25,400
Speaker 4: to do with playing too soon.

697
00:30:26,040 --> 00:30:28,600
Speaker 1: Right, That was the right, Right, that was the good part.

698
00:30:29,720 --> 00:30:33,200
Speaker 4: That's you know, like the whole like chicken little thing,

699
00:30:33,280 --> 00:30:35,920
Speaker 4: like you can't play him like Mike Lombardi. By the

700
00:30:35,920 --> 00:30:40,280
Speaker 4: way he's he's gotta getting worse and worse, and he's

701
00:30:40,320 --> 00:30:43,720
Speaker 4: getting worse and worse, like by the week. You'd be

702
00:30:43,760 --> 00:30:47,600
Speaker 4: crazy to play be crazy to play him like you

703
00:30:48,000 --> 00:30:50,280
Speaker 4: it'd be insane. I think he called it insane if

704
00:30:50,320 --> 00:30:51,840
Speaker 4: you play if you decided to put him in. This

705
00:30:52,000 --> 00:30:56,280
Speaker 4: was like four days ago, so and then he starts

706
00:30:56,360 --> 00:30:58,280
Speaker 4: rattling our teams, you know, like you got to have

707
00:30:58,320 --> 00:31:00,479
Speaker 4: an offensive line, you got to protect the you know,

708
00:31:00,720 --> 00:31:03,320
Speaker 4: why do you think Jared Goff is successful in Detroit?

709
00:31:05,240 --> 00:31:09,280
Speaker 4: And Okay, yeah, he's got a great offensive line. And

710
00:31:09,320 --> 00:31:11,160
Speaker 4: I do think Jared Goff is one of those guys

711
00:31:11,160 --> 00:31:12,920
Speaker 4: that as long as you protect him, he's gonna be

712
00:31:12,960 --> 00:31:15,520
Speaker 4: really good. You don't protect him, he can't do it. Yeah, Okay,

713
00:31:15,560 --> 00:31:18,720
Speaker 4: then he goes. Well, look what's happened into Cincinnati now

714
00:31:19,160 --> 00:31:21,200
Speaker 4: because they can't protect him. They should have taken as

715
00:31:21,240 --> 00:31:23,640
Speaker 4: good as great as Jamar Chase is. They should have

716
00:31:23,680 --> 00:31:26,760
Speaker 4: taken Penny Seol. They'd have a left tackle, Hall of

717
00:31:26,760 --> 00:31:28,600
Speaker 4: Fame left tackle. They might have a Hall of Fame.

718
00:31:28,520 --> 00:31:31,480
Speaker 3: Receiver, like thirty five points a game, thank you, Fred Kirsh.

719
00:31:31,680 --> 00:31:34,840
Speaker 4: Yeah, like they can't get they haven't been stopped the

720
00:31:34,920 --> 00:31:38,600
Speaker 4: last three weeks, right, the defense has gone to hell.

721
00:31:38,720 --> 00:31:41,239
Speaker 3: Everybody got healthy and now they're and they're all out.

722
00:31:41,400 --> 00:31:43,800
Speaker 4: The defense has gone to hell, and they can't win games.

723
00:31:44,120 --> 00:31:47,800
Speaker 4: But they lost forty one thirty eighth, right against a

724
00:31:47,840 --> 00:31:51,120
Speaker 4: good team. But this is like when these guys just

725
00:31:51,200 --> 00:31:53,840
Speaker 4: like they scream into the ether and people just buy

726
00:31:53,880 --> 00:31:57,320
Speaker 4: it like that has nothing to do with Cincinnati struggles.

727
00:31:57,440 --> 00:32:01,680
Speaker 4: Right now, Their offense is in gear, their defense has

728
00:32:01,680 --> 00:32:05,080
Speaker 4: fallen apart. Like, you can't play much better than Joe

729
00:32:05,080 --> 00:32:06,920
Speaker 4: Burrow's played the last three games and they one and

730
00:32:07,000 --> 00:32:11,360
Speaker 4: two win those three games. Yep, But you know, gotta

731
00:32:11,400 --> 00:32:12,440
Speaker 4: have an offensive line.

732
00:32:12,840 --> 00:32:14,840
Speaker 1: Well, Lombardi seems like he's taking every shot he can

733
00:32:15,000 --> 00:32:15,280
Speaker 1: at this.

734
00:32:15,240 --> 00:32:18,400
Speaker 4: Time, and then every time he's you know, I didn't

735
00:32:18,440 --> 00:32:19,080
Speaker 4: ever get into this.

736
00:32:19,160 --> 00:32:20,360
Speaker 1: They're fun, they're nice.

737
00:32:20,800 --> 00:32:22,440
Speaker 4: Yeah, they're nice, you know, and I know like they

738
00:32:22,440 --> 00:32:25,000
Speaker 4: want to blame all their problems on Belichick, but like

739
00:32:25,000 --> 00:32:27,040
Speaker 4: like these little asides in the middle of his rants,

740
00:32:27,960 --> 00:32:32,200
Speaker 4: please please at least with like like Bill right, if

741
00:32:32,240 --> 00:32:36,760
Speaker 4: Bill's bitter, I could understand it. Bill has accomplished so much,

742
00:32:37,240 --> 00:32:40,200
Speaker 4: Like I could understand if he's bitter and maybe you know,

743
00:32:40,600 --> 00:32:43,840
Speaker 4: like has a sardonic side that he's sort of enjoying,

744
00:32:44,400 --> 00:32:46,640
Speaker 4: you know, the shot and freuder like what's going on?

745
00:32:46,960 --> 00:32:48,600
Speaker 4: I could get that. But it's the guy that won

746
00:32:48,720 --> 00:32:51,440
Speaker 4: six titles for the Patriots. What has Mike Lombardi ever

747
00:32:51,520 --> 00:32:54,920
Speaker 4: done other than drive the the like the uber to

748
00:32:55,000 --> 00:32:59,800
Speaker 4: pick up these these great people at the airport, like please.

749
00:33:00,400 --> 00:33:02,480
Speaker 3: Ron and Conway, New Hampshire. I don't have to say

750
00:33:02,520 --> 00:33:05,920
Speaker 3: too much as it's me time now. I just wanted

751
00:33:05,960 --> 00:33:09,880
Speaker 3: to ask one weird question regarding the decision. Supposedly, Mayo

752
00:33:09,920 --> 00:33:12,400
Speaker 3: said in his presser that he was disappointed that the

753
00:33:12,400 --> 00:33:15,080
Speaker 3: story broke before he told the team my question is,

754
00:33:15,120 --> 00:33:17,640
Speaker 3: why the hell would Mayo have not told the team.

755
00:33:18,040 --> 00:33:20,080
Speaker 3: I mean, if Mayo and the staff knew, why didn't

756
00:33:20,080 --> 00:33:22,640
Speaker 3: they tell the team sooner. I had felt for months

757
00:33:22,680 --> 00:33:24,760
Speaker 3: since the end of camp that Mayo wanted to start

758
00:33:24,800 --> 00:33:27,480
Speaker 3: May but got resistance from AVP and Wolf, and that

759
00:33:27,560 --> 00:33:30,280
Speaker 3: it was a power struggle between them. Also, what the

760
00:33:30,280 --> 00:33:34,080
Speaker 3: hell is with Arlovsky? He's being such a wine ass

761
00:33:34,360 --> 00:33:37,920
Speaker 3: Orlofsky praises Williams and the other rookie quarterbacks, but now

762
00:33:38,000 --> 00:33:40,360
Speaker 3: it's such a problem with may I'd love to hear

763
00:33:40,400 --> 00:33:42,760
Speaker 3: your thoughts. Excited to see may So on the not

764
00:33:42,840 --> 00:33:46,440
Speaker 3: telling the team. You know, Wednesday I think was the

765
00:33:46,440 --> 00:33:49,080
Speaker 3: first time the team would all be in the buildings,

766
00:33:49,120 --> 00:33:50,520
Speaker 3: so I think he was waiting for that, and I

767
00:33:50,560 --> 00:33:53,320
Speaker 3: think it is is disappointing that it got leaked out,

768
00:33:53,360 --> 00:33:53,840
Speaker 3: and I don't know.

769
00:33:53,760 --> 00:33:58,600
Speaker 4: Who did it right. He could have talked to they're.

770
00:33:57,640 --> 00:34:01,560
Speaker 3: Not all in on Monday. Some are, but I don't

771
00:34:01,560 --> 00:34:03,440
Speaker 3: think they're all in, and there's certainly not all in

772
00:34:03,520 --> 00:34:04,320
Speaker 3: at the same time.

773
00:34:04,360 --> 00:34:07,560
Speaker 4: They're not in on Tuesday, like Tuesday play Tuesday, they're in.

774
00:34:07,680 --> 00:34:10,399
Speaker 4: He said that he spoke to u Brissett in May

775
00:34:10,480 --> 00:34:14,239
Speaker 4: on Tuesday right, and that's you know, then what did

776
00:34:14,280 --> 00:34:18,480
Speaker 4: he say, Like some of that was like supposition or

777
00:34:18,520 --> 00:34:19,160
Speaker 4: something like that.

778
00:34:19,239 --> 00:34:20,920
Speaker 1: I kind of I don't know, I miss some of

779
00:34:20,960 --> 00:34:24,520
Speaker 1: this because my recollection was like it was he was

780
00:34:24,560 --> 00:34:26,440
Speaker 1: okay with it just getting out, like he told the

781
00:34:26,440 --> 00:34:28,120
Speaker 1: guys that needed to get out, and the guys weren't

782
00:34:28,120 --> 00:34:30,560
Speaker 1: here yesterday and I don't know this morning.

783
00:34:30,600 --> 00:34:33,080
Speaker 4: Script. Yeah, he told the team this morning that he

784
00:34:33,200 --> 00:34:37,000
Speaker 4: said specifically, but he talked to May and Brissette Tuesday

785
00:34:37,640 --> 00:34:39,360
Speaker 4: and then it got out and then it got out.

786
00:34:39,840 --> 00:34:42,880
Speaker 3: Right, So it could have been anyone leaking it. It

787
00:34:42,920 --> 00:34:45,680
Speaker 3: could have been could be no, it could have been

788
00:34:45,760 --> 00:34:48,080
Speaker 3: Drake May telling a family member and a family member

789
00:34:48,120 --> 00:34:51,040
Speaker 3: telling somebody and then you know, like who knows how

790
00:34:51,080 --> 00:34:53,480
Speaker 3: it got out, but it's it is unfortunate to got out.

791
00:34:53,680 --> 00:34:55,640
Speaker 3: And that's you know, one of the one of the

792
00:34:55,760 --> 00:34:57,880
Speaker 3: tough things about being a head coach is dealing with

793
00:34:57,920 --> 00:34:58,840
Speaker 3: that kind of stuff.

794
00:34:58,920 --> 00:35:02,919
Speaker 4: And people have made a big deal because in training camp,

795
00:35:02,960 --> 00:35:05,200
Speaker 4: at the end of training camp after the Washington game,

796
00:35:06,239 --> 00:35:10,239
Speaker 4: Gerard was really adamant about telling the team before he

797
00:35:10,360 --> 00:35:13,920
Speaker 4: told the media. If you recall, yeah, so I think

798
00:35:13,960 --> 00:35:16,520
Speaker 4: that's why people saying well, why shift? But I don't

799
00:35:16,560 --> 00:35:19,680
Speaker 4: think this was the way Gerard wanted it to be. Yeah,

800
00:35:19,800 --> 00:35:22,279
Speaker 4: sort of emanated, disseminated, I should.

801
00:35:22,000 --> 00:35:25,759
Speaker 3: Say, yep, Brandon and Hickory North Carolina. Has there ever

802
00:35:25,800 --> 00:35:28,320
Speaker 3: been a team that, like five of the six elected

803
00:35:28,360 --> 00:35:30,040
Speaker 3: captains are no longer on the field.

804
00:35:30,200 --> 00:35:30,640
Speaker 4: Unreal.

805
00:35:30,800 --> 00:35:33,280
Speaker 3: This season has just been a train wreck from the start,

806
00:35:33,320 --> 00:35:35,759
Speaker 3: and it's nice to finally have something as a fan

807
00:35:36,200 --> 00:35:38,919
Speaker 3: to be excited for on Sunday. I'm pumped to get

808
00:35:38,920 --> 00:35:41,720
Speaker 3: to see Drake start, and I think it's a perfect matchup.

809
00:35:41,960 --> 00:35:44,160
Speaker 3: We will see how he handles the pressure of going

810
00:35:44,239 --> 00:35:47,879
Speaker 3: up against another young, really good quarterback. Also, I think

811
00:35:47,920 --> 00:35:51,040
Speaker 3: the receivers may have an extra burst of energy this

812
00:35:51,080 --> 00:35:55,840
Speaker 3: week for Drake Pat's twenty seven Texans twenty four. Drake

813
00:35:55,960 --> 00:35:58,640
Speaker 3: leads the team to a walk off touchdown drive, Go

814
00:35:58,840 --> 00:36:02,480
Speaker 3: Pats and loveless. If that happens, the shirt's coming off.

815
00:36:03,120 --> 00:36:05,719
Speaker 3: The shirt is coming off of that for one game,

816
00:36:05,920 --> 00:36:06,720
Speaker 3: For one game.

817
00:36:06,560 --> 00:36:10,160
Speaker 4: You think it's ridiculous that they could win Sunday that way.

818
00:36:10,280 --> 00:36:14,440
Speaker 3: That that's that's story, that's Hollywood, that's.

819
00:36:14,280 --> 00:36:16,960
Speaker 4: Hollywood, Like was it Hollywood that Brady? Well, I suppose

820
00:36:17,000 --> 00:36:18,799
Speaker 4: you could say it was like, you know that game

821
00:36:18,840 --> 00:36:21,440
Speaker 4: that Mike talked about, they won like forty one to thirteen.

822
00:36:21,600 --> 00:36:23,680
Speaker 1: I'll tell you what seems Hollywood is all the captains

823
00:36:23,760 --> 00:36:26,160
Speaker 1: dropping like flies. And that's and that already seems like

824
00:36:26,239 --> 00:36:27,120
Speaker 1: in a bad way.

825
00:36:27,880 --> 00:36:30,960
Speaker 4: It's amazing. Who's left?

826
00:36:31,400 --> 00:36:34,600
Speaker 1: Dietrich Wise wows man standing.

827
00:36:35,160 --> 00:36:37,640
Speaker 4: Imagine him like you're walking around, You're just like looking

828
00:36:37,680 --> 00:36:39,239
Speaker 4: around and see if ane's gonna fall on you at

829
00:36:39,239 --> 00:36:39,800
Speaker 4: any second.

830
00:36:41,239 --> 00:36:44,880
Speaker 3: Chris and Kentucky wants to know who's Drake going to

831
00:36:44,960 --> 00:36:49,200
Speaker 3: be most like Josh Allen, Herbert Mahones, Burrow or maybe

832
00:36:49,239 --> 00:36:51,759
Speaker 3: a Sam Darnold Baker Captain Kirk. Who do you think

833
00:36:51,760 --> 00:36:52,640
Speaker 3: he'll be most like?

834
00:36:54,120 --> 00:36:57,200
Speaker 1: Probably that Herbert Ish. I think I don't think he's

835
00:36:57,239 --> 00:36:59,040
Speaker 1: the freight train that Josh big enough.

836
00:36:59,120 --> 00:37:00,600
Speaker 4: Yeah, he's not taking for the Josh.

837
00:37:00,680 --> 00:37:02,920
Speaker 1: He's got the big arm like Herbert does.

838
00:37:03,000 --> 00:37:06,080
Speaker 4: And yeah, I think that's probably. I mean, he's athletic

839
00:37:06,600 --> 00:37:09,719
Speaker 4: like Herbert is. Yeah, I kind of like that one. Yeah,

840
00:37:09,760 --> 00:37:10,600
Speaker 4: it's probably the closest.

841
00:37:10,640 --> 00:37:13,120
Speaker 1: I mean, I hate everything's got to be a comparison,

842
00:37:13,160 --> 00:37:15,920
Speaker 1: but yeah, that's that's probably the good size.

843
00:37:16,080 --> 00:37:16,600
Speaker 4: That's what we do.

844
00:37:17,719 --> 00:37:18,360
Speaker 1: Big arms.

845
00:37:18,520 --> 00:37:22,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, uh Chris in South Carolina says he's stuck at

846
00:37:22,239 --> 00:37:26,280
Speaker 3: work but can't wait for the drive home to listen

847
00:37:26,280 --> 00:37:28,279
Speaker 3: to your takes on the switch at quarterback. I just

848
00:37:28,280 --> 00:37:31,360
Speaker 3: want to say that I think Drake handled himself extremely

849
00:37:31,400 --> 00:37:34,879
Speaker 3: well during the beginning of the season, maturely and responsibly

850
00:37:35,160 --> 00:37:37,839
Speaker 3: waiting for his chance to get his career started. I

851
00:37:37,840 --> 00:37:39,880
Speaker 3: have a really good feeling about him as a player

852
00:37:39,920 --> 00:37:42,719
Speaker 3: and a person, and I think there's good things in

853
00:37:42,800 --> 00:37:45,760
Speaker 3: store for us over the next decade as we continue

854
00:37:45,760 --> 00:37:47,239
Speaker 3: to build and rally around him.

855
00:37:47,760 --> 00:37:49,320
Speaker 4: I know that dude. I know Chris.

856
00:37:50,000 --> 00:37:52,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, he was. He's a writer back in the Bleacher

857
00:37:52,640 --> 00:37:56,799
Speaker 1: Report days with myself as well, so for free work.

858
00:37:57,040 --> 00:37:59,440
Speaker 1: Now that you know him, I just recognize his name.

859
00:37:59,440 --> 00:38:03,360
Speaker 4: Okay, I'd be curious as to what he like, what

860
00:38:03,560 --> 00:38:07,160
Speaker 4: specifically was he impressed with how Drake May handled himself

861
00:38:07,200 --> 00:38:08,120
Speaker 4: in the first five.

862
00:38:07,920 --> 00:38:10,640
Speaker 3: Weeks, Like he didn't say anything.

863
00:38:10,960 --> 00:38:12,880
Speaker 4: I mean, do you think he should have been like

864
00:38:13,080 --> 00:38:15,640
Speaker 4: storming the best deal to tell Gerrod that he should

865
00:38:15,680 --> 00:38:18,760
Speaker 4: be starting, because nobody would do that standing there looking

866
00:38:18,800 --> 00:38:21,840
Speaker 4: cool on the third overall pick, I'm a rookie in

867
00:38:22,880 --> 00:38:26,520
Speaker 4: I'm going to wait my turn, right, I did I

868
00:38:26,560 --> 00:38:28,760
Speaker 4: did really like some of this as a complete aside

869
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Speaker 4: that question that we've gotten frequently about Drake May on

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Speaker 4: the sideline, his you know, where he is, his demeanor,

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Speaker 4: why is he not listening to the coaches, blah blah

872
00:38:40,560 --> 00:38:43,520
Speaker 4: blah blah blah. He was asked directly that today and

873
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Speaker 4: he gave the exact answer that the four of us,

874
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Speaker 4: you know, I'll include Evan, have given, you know, as

875
00:38:50,680 --> 00:38:53,080
Speaker 4: our thoughts as to why, you know, he likes the

876
00:38:53,160 --> 00:38:55,080
Speaker 4: vantage point of where he is. He's trying to get

877
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Speaker 4: behind the offense, behind the quarterback, reading the defense, reading

878
00:38:58,840 --> 00:39:02,200
Speaker 4: the safeties, sort of checking the coverage and all the

879
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Speaker 4: all the while he's listening to everything. So I thought

880
00:39:06,040 --> 00:39:09,319
Speaker 4: that was a yeah, right, exactly what we thought. And yeah,

881
00:39:09,520 --> 00:39:12,120
Speaker 4: because that's that's what we've been saying, right, you know.

882
00:39:12,160 --> 00:39:15,320
Speaker 4: I was glad to hear that. But yeah, he addressed.

883
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Speaker 1: That as close as you can get to really actually

884
00:39:16,960 --> 00:39:17,840
Speaker 1: see in the defense.

885
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Speaker 3: And Barton Poland, I got to say, starting May versus

886
00:39:22,280 --> 00:39:26,120
Speaker 3: Houston may not be the smartest idea. However, as someone

887
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Speaker 3: who's going to his first NFL game next week in London,

888
00:39:29,120 --> 00:39:32,560
Speaker 3: I'm selfishly loving it. I really like Jacobe but my

889
00:39:32,640 --> 00:39:35,680
Speaker 3: first NFL experience being whatever that offense was in the

890
00:39:35,680 --> 00:39:38,640
Speaker 3: first five weeks wouldn't have been ideal. Even if the

891
00:39:38,680 --> 00:39:42,040
Speaker 3: offense doesn't look great initially with Drake Trevor Lawrence versus

892
00:39:42,080 --> 00:39:45,479
Speaker 3: Drake may probably my two favorite quarterback prospects the last

893
00:39:45,480 --> 00:39:47,840
Speaker 3: five years. Looks absolutely great for me.

894
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Speaker 4: Nice we go.

895
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Speaker 1: Definitely some fans over there cited for sure.

896
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Speaker 3: Oh, absolutely should be. That'd be great.

897
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Speaker 1: Are you, Fred, I've got a couple questions. Are you

898
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Speaker 1: gonna do anything over there? You're gonna do any? Meet

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Speaker 1: Fred kirsch Well.

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Speaker 3: I will say that there'll be a party on Saturday

901
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Speaker 3: night at the Greenwood Pub in London. I'm not exactly

902
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Speaker 3: sure where in London it is, but I will be

903
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Speaker 3: the host. WHOA, I will be on stage hosting it.

904
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Speaker 3: You bring in the talks because no one else would

905
00:40:15,280 --> 00:40:17,640
Speaker 3: do it, really no, but I am going to be

906
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Speaker 3: the person on stage doing it, so I'll be uh,

907
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Speaker 3: I'll be uh running the program.

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Speaker 4: I will say, my London is fun. Yeah, like you know,

909
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Speaker 4: we got a chance to go to Germany too, and

910
00:40:30,520 --> 00:40:35,839
Speaker 4: you know, but in terms of just you know the experience,

911
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Speaker 4: think of the Friday night in Germany on steroids. That

912
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Speaker 4: was London.

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Speaker 1: That's fun London.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, our fans in London are great. They are and

915
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Speaker 3: they've been and they've been fans for a long time.

916
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Speaker 4: Big President. It's going to be a home game. I know.

917
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Speaker 4: It's a road game for the Patriots, you know, technically,

918
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Speaker 4: and Jacksonville's got that market. They're playing actually this week

919
00:40:58,080 --> 00:41:02,000
Speaker 4: in London too, but it's going to be like a

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Speaker 4: home game for the Papriots.

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Speaker 1: The first year they played there, oh nine nine yeah, right.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, Tampa, Yeah, played Tampa again. You know who I

923
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Speaker 4: think played quarterback that day for the Bucks, Josh Johnson,

924
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Speaker 4: who I believe is still in the league. You might,

925
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Speaker 4: you might not still be in Laboy fifteen years.

926
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Speaker 3: All right, Well, you gotta take a break. I gotta,

927
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Speaker 3: I gotta take off.

928
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Speaker 4: I can't believe you.

929
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Speaker 3: Yeah, I gotta take off.

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Speaker 4: You guys take Deuce's creativity now because he's got a host,

931
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Speaker 4: because I won't host.

932
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Speaker 1: No, I'm gonna, I'm gonna hijack the show.

933
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Speaker 3: Yeah, I have to. I have to take off, So

934
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Speaker 3: I supposed to. That's my email. I don't want, you know,

935
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Speaker 3: use your own email. So Paul Paul Evan, I mean

936
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Speaker 3: Paul Deuce Evan will be here. Yeah, so they'll be

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Speaker 3: here until two o'clock.

938
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Speaker 4: Have no fear And obviously we're taking your reaction to

939
00:41:47,760 --> 00:41:50,120
Speaker 4: Drake May. Give us a call, let us know what

940
00:41:50,160 --> 00:41:53,080
Speaker 4: you think and if you know what, we've been really positive,

941
00:41:53,320 --> 00:41:55,319
Speaker 4: you know, in this show, and we're gonna continue to be.

942
00:41:55,360 --> 00:41:57,600
Speaker 4: But you guys might not agree with the move, So

943
00:41:57,680 --> 00:42:02,200
Speaker 4: that you can let me know those opinions upon welcome

944
00:42:02,239 --> 00:42:02,520
Speaker 4: as well.

945
00:42:02,560 --> 00:42:03,120
Speaker 3: We'll call in.

946
00:42:03,239 --> 00:42:06,880
Speaker 4: Yeah, I Orlowski just thinks it's a bad situation. I

947
00:42:06,880 --> 00:42:10,560
Speaker 4: don't think he has anything against Drake May. Let's address that.

948
00:42:11,320 --> 00:42:13,920
Speaker 3: If if he was being put in the game, I

949
00:42:13,920 --> 00:42:16,280
Speaker 3: can understand why he would think that because he doesn't

950
00:42:16,280 --> 00:42:17,640
Speaker 3: have the tools that Drake May has.

951
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Speaker 1: Yeah, and or Loss. He came out in the summer about.

952
00:42:20,360 --> 00:42:22,320
Speaker 4: Uh needed to sniff after that one.

953
00:42:22,480 --> 00:42:24,239
Speaker 1: I jumped in on that. But he had said in

954
00:42:24,280 --> 00:42:27,280
Speaker 1: the summer about he was concerned about Drake May's footwork

955
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Speaker 1: how far he had to go.

956
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Speaker 4: He's the anti Patriots Twitter guy. He shows clips of

957
00:42:32,960 --> 00:42:37,640
Speaker 4: plays that everybody is completely blanketed. Everybody else shows these

958
00:42:37,920 --> 00:42:41,560
Speaker 4: these plays where like evidently they've like superimposed the defensive

959
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Speaker 4: backs out of the off off the screen, like there's

960
00:42:44,760 --> 00:42:48,360
Speaker 4: nobody covering anybody for the Patriots on on the plays

961
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Speaker 4: that the Patriots Twitter Twitter likes to put out there.

962
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Speaker 4: Gray, Just a thought on what your reaction was to

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Speaker 4: getting news when your first NFL started. How excited are

992
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Speaker 4: you and how ready are you for this opportunity?

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Speaker 11: Yeah, you know, I think it's a great opportunity. Let

994
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Speaker 11: me drive of you know, getting your first start in

995
00:44:43,680 --> 00:44:45,400
Speaker 11: the NFL. So we excited to get out there with

996
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Speaker 11: the guys, take advantage of, you know, having the full

997
00:44:48,120 --> 00:44:50,560
Speaker 11: week to get prepared and trump for the best for

998
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Speaker 11: FOURD helps the team with Drake you just talked about.

999
00:44:52,760 --> 00:44:54,160
Speaker 3: You just said the word opportunity.

1000
00:44:54,560 --> 00:44:55,759
Speaker 1: It is a big opportunity.

1001
00:44:56,400 --> 00:44:58,359
Speaker 7: How much more comfortable are now?

1002
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Speaker 10: Several weeks, don't see having watched and learned a little

1003
00:45:01,800 --> 00:45:05,359
Speaker 10: bit about the system, take advantage of this opportunity, then

1004
00:45:05,400 --> 00:45:07,320
Speaker 10: maybe he would have been earlier in the season.

1005
00:45:07,480 --> 00:45:08,040
Speaker 7: Yeah, I think.

1006
00:45:08,520 --> 00:45:11,080
Speaker 11: Yeah, Now we're in week six, so you get I

1007
00:45:11,120 --> 00:45:12,759
Speaker 11: had five games of sitting on the sideline hearing the

1008
00:45:12,760 --> 00:45:16,160
Speaker 11: play calls, preparing for the game, prepared for a Thursday

1009
00:45:16,239 --> 00:45:18,640
Speaker 11: night game, or preparing for a Sunday night or Sunday

1010
00:45:18,680 --> 00:45:21,360
Speaker 11: afternoon game. So I feel like we've bounced a lot

1011
00:45:21,400 --> 00:45:24,000
Speaker 11: of different things throughout the week and had to prepare

1012
00:45:24,000 --> 00:45:26,880
Speaker 11: and just trying to tag along from Jacoby. I'm a

1013
00:45:26,920 --> 00:45:30,040
Speaker 11: veteran this league who's does a great job of learning

1014
00:45:30,080 --> 00:45:32,280
Speaker 11: so much from him and seeing how he goes about practice.

1015
00:45:32,560 --> 00:45:35,080
Speaker 11: So that's been probably the best thing of watching Jacoby

1016
00:45:35,080 --> 00:45:37,960
Speaker 11: and watching how he handles, you know, the whole nine yards,

1017
00:45:37,960 --> 00:45:42,360
Speaker 11: whether it's preparing, handling teammates, handling, handling y'all, and just

1018
00:45:43,320 --> 00:45:46,040
Speaker 11: he's been great and a great mentor you.

1019
00:45:46,120 --> 00:45:49,560
Speaker 4: Had in the offense. Has changes movie before and or

1020
00:45:49,640 --> 00:45:51,280
Speaker 4: the game playing coming off.

1021
00:45:51,120 --> 00:45:51,720
Speaker 3: The first Sunday.

1022
00:45:52,400 --> 00:45:56,560
Speaker 11: Yeah, you know, I think the biggest thing is just

1023
00:45:56,560 --> 00:46:00,120
Speaker 11: just just me playing on time, playing rhythm and and

1024
00:46:00,120 --> 00:46:01,680
Speaker 11: then trusting the guys around me. I think you know

1025
00:46:01,719 --> 00:46:04,399
Speaker 11: the game plan that can change, you know. I think

1026
00:46:04,520 --> 00:46:06,080
Speaker 11: obviously you got a break quarterback going out there. But

1027
00:46:06,080 --> 00:46:08,239
Speaker 11: at the same time, you know what we're doing offense,

1028
00:46:08,239 --> 00:46:10,400
Speaker 11: what we're doing offense, So not trying to give too

1029
00:46:10,480 --> 00:46:11,960
Speaker 11: much hints, you know, towards game plan. We got a

1030
00:46:11,960 --> 00:46:14,040
Speaker 11: gaming play Sunday, but uh, just looking forward to.

1031
00:46:14,080 --> 00:46:17,960
Speaker 4: It, like like these concepts or plays or things of

1032
00:46:18,040 --> 00:46:18,319
Speaker 4: that name.

1033
00:46:18,480 --> 00:46:20,560
Speaker 11: Yeah, that happens every week. You know, a VP comes

1034
00:46:20,560 --> 00:46:22,319
Speaker 11: to us at the end of the week. We came

1035
00:46:22,360 --> 00:46:24,200
Speaker 11: to Jacobe, you know, the first five weeks and what

1036
00:46:24,239 --> 00:46:26,040
Speaker 11: do you like? And hey, you know this is my

1037
00:46:26,040 --> 00:46:28,759
Speaker 11: favorite third down or my favorite drop back. So we

1038
00:46:28,840 --> 00:46:32,080
Speaker 11: do that every week.

1039
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Speaker 12: Think you are you have the capability of the last

1040
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Speaker 12: SA plays well platinum plays bringing.

1041
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Speaker 4: Down also be too.

1042
00:46:40,360 --> 00:46:43,840
Speaker 3: How do you balance that to start cooking against the.

1043
00:46:44,480 --> 00:46:48,160
Speaker 7: NFL game was different as we're very good.

1044
00:46:49,080 --> 00:46:51,960
Speaker 4: Yeah, how will you processed? Be careful?

1045
00:46:53,680 --> 00:46:55,960
Speaker 11: Yeah, I think early on just try to take take

1046
00:46:55,960 --> 00:46:57,440
Speaker 11: it and gave me find completions. I think that's the

1047
00:46:57,440 --> 00:46:59,920
Speaker 11: biggest biggest thing for your young quarterback going in there,

1048
00:47:00,120 --> 00:47:02,520
Speaker 11: and then from there just don't try to hunt up

1049
00:47:02,560 --> 00:47:06,160
Speaker 11: you know, off the platform or off off play off

1050
00:47:06,200 --> 00:47:08,160
Speaker 11: schedule throws. I think just kind of feel it out

1051
00:47:08,200 --> 00:47:09,000
Speaker 11: and just play football.

1052
00:47:09,960 --> 00:47:10,160
Speaker 4: Yeah.

1053
00:47:10,600 --> 00:47:12,719
Speaker 11: I think the biggest thing sometimes is just you try

1054
00:47:12,719 --> 00:47:14,200
Speaker 11: to get outside of pocket you don't need to, and

1055
00:47:14,360 --> 00:47:15,840
Speaker 11: and little things like that. So just play within the

1056
00:47:15,880 --> 00:47:18,640
Speaker 11: pocket and trust my feet and uh just should go

1057
00:47:18,680 --> 00:47:19,239
Speaker 11: out there and play.

1058
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Speaker 12: What do you say like you've thrown the most dangerous.

1059
00:47:25,200 --> 00:47:27,200
Speaker 11: Yeah, I think just just really is what comes with

1060
00:47:27,360 --> 00:47:29,880
Speaker 11: you know, kind of learning you know the NFL quarterback

1061
00:47:30,120 --> 00:47:32,680
Speaker 11: and uh kind of what comes with you're really the title,

1062
00:47:32,760 --> 00:47:36,359
Speaker 11: you know, handling shoot leadership, learning from Tacobe what he's done.

1063
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Speaker 7: He's a great leader guys, you know one you know,

1064
00:47:38,520 --> 00:47:40,719
Speaker 7: biggest leaders on the team. How you know the.

1065
00:47:40,760 --> 00:47:43,600
Speaker 11: Verbage of you know, calling the huddles. Just had you know,

1066
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Speaker 11: first walk through and I feel pretty good with the

1067
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Speaker 11: verbage there. So other than that, just uh, excited for

1068
00:47:49,160 --> 00:47:51,399
Speaker 11: excite for these guys. I think it's opportunity to it's

1069
00:47:51,400 --> 00:47:53,320
Speaker 11: a good football team to go out there and you know,

1070
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Speaker 11: prooves people wrong.

1071
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Speaker 4: The conversation was.

1072
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Speaker 7: Like twin you and Chapobe after you've got the news

1073
00:47:58,160 --> 00:47:58,360
Speaker 7: and what.

1074
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Speaker 11: The does the channel down in front of Kobe. You know,

1075
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Speaker 11: he's the idea that you make, you know, ideal You've

1076
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Speaker 11: got to be in the room with the quarterback.

1077
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Speaker 7: You know.

1078
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Speaker 11: I think the biggest thing is you hate it for

1079
00:48:07,920 --> 00:48:09,759
Speaker 11: you hate it for him, you know, I think you

1080
00:48:09,800 --> 00:48:12,400
Speaker 11: know Jacobe, you know, fought, fought his butt off, you know,

1081
00:48:12,480 --> 00:48:14,160
Speaker 11: got up you know every time he's getting hit. And

1082
00:48:15,520 --> 00:48:17,760
Speaker 11: not only that, it just kept kept that that mindset

1083
00:48:17,800 --> 00:48:19,080
Speaker 11: of hey, it's gonna be the next play. You know,

1084
00:48:19,640 --> 00:48:22,320
Speaker 11: got this drive coming. Just see him on the sideline

1085
00:48:22,520 --> 00:48:25,000
Speaker 11: and uh, you know how it was the positive vibes.

1086
00:48:25,000 --> 00:48:26,919
Speaker 11: So he kind of kept and brought to this team

1087
00:48:26,960 --> 00:48:28,960
Speaker 11: and we'll still bring to this team. You know, he's

1088
00:48:28,960 --> 00:48:31,840
Speaker 11: a great mentor great friend. And I was trying to

1089
00:48:31,840 --> 00:48:34,359
Speaker 11: do everything I can to help him and I'm sure

1090
00:48:34,360 --> 00:48:34,839
Speaker 11: to do the same.

1091
00:48:35,920 --> 00:48:39,600
Speaker 12: Watching Jakobe in games, look at you on the sideline

1092
00:48:39,920 --> 00:48:41,960
Speaker 12: while he's out there, it seems like off the times

1093
00:48:42,040 --> 00:48:45,080
Speaker 12: your batage point just down the sideline, we'll be you

1094
00:48:45,160 --> 00:48:45,719
Speaker 12: gaining for.

1095
00:48:45,800 --> 00:48:46,799
Speaker 13: That point of view, and how did.

1096
00:48:46,800 --> 00:48:48,759
Speaker 7: It match up what you were saying what you.

1097
00:48:48,880 --> 00:48:51,919
Speaker 11: Saw one yeah, kind of down the side. You gotta

1098
00:48:51,960 --> 00:48:54,320
Speaker 11: get a more view of the defensive structure, trying to

1099
00:48:54,320 --> 00:48:57,880
Speaker 11: see techniques up front from the defensive line, trying to

1100
00:48:57,880 --> 00:49:00,920
Speaker 11: see shafeties, trying to see of back end stuff, and

1101
00:49:00,960 --> 00:49:02,719
Speaker 11: at the same time kind of get the back few

1102
00:49:02,920 --> 00:49:05,400
Speaker 11: quarterbacks thinking. So that was I tried to do that

1103
00:49:05,560 --> 00:49:07,360
Speaker 11: or or try to kind of stand behind Jacobey. I

1104
00:49:07,480 --> 00:49:09,600
Speaker 11: think that was kind of kind of my mindset. He's

1105
00:49:09,640 --> 00:49:11,520
Speaker 11: trying to get a feel of, you know, playing back

1106
00:49:11,560 --> 00:49:13,960
Speaker 11: there behind him, what it'd be like, and you don't

1107
00:49:13,960 --> 00:49:15,640
Speaker 11: get a great views as you do in practice and

1108
00:49:15,680 --> 00:49:18,040
Speaker 11: standing right behind him, So just trying to reprocate that

1109
00:49:18,160 --> 00:49:22,560
Speaker 11: and play play the game along the sideline made a

1110
00:49:22,600 --> 00:49:24,399
Speaker 11: lot of some of the best quarterbacks in the league

1111
00:49:24,440 --> 00:49:26,600
Speaker 11: on the scout team most wondering are there any specific

1112
00:49:26,719 --> 00:49:27,080
Speaker 11: lessons you.

1113
00:49:27,120 --> 00:49:29,760
Speaker 4: Were able to learn from, you know, emulating Burrow Rogers

1114
00:49:29,840 --> 00:49:30,600
Speaker 4: or any of those guys.

1115
00:49:31,239 --> 00:49:35,440
Speaker 11: Yeah, I think, uh, just the timing that they play

1116
00:49:35,520 --> 00:49:37,160
Speaker 11: with in the routes. I think, you know, our our

1117
00:49:37,239 --> 00:49:39,000
Speaker 11: defense coaches speak on that, kind of the rhythm and

1118
00:49:39,040 --> 00:49:41,359
Speaker 11: the timing of you know, hey, this this ball throwing

1119
00:49:41,400 --> 00:49:45,200
Speaker 11: before they're looking, and anticipation and you know, throwing guys open.

1120
00:49:45,239 --> 00:49:46,600
Speaker 11: I think that's the biggest thing, and I've tried to

1121
00:49:46,680 --> 00:49:48,400
Speaker 11: take a new Scout team, as you know, trying to

1122
00:49:48,840 --> 00:49:50,759
Speaker 11: you know, throw guys open and maybe throw throw the

1123
00:49:50,800 --> 00:49:52,959
Speaker 11: ball out. I may not have in my life before

1124
00:49:53,000 --> 00:49:55,080
Speaker 11: if I see something, So I think that's the biggest thing.

1125
00:49:55,080 --> 00:49:57,840
Speaker 11: And yeah, we've we've on Scout team. We've kind of

1126
00:49:57,840 --> 00:50:00,440
Speaker 11: wrapped some some pretty good quarterbacks and some fun offenses

1127
00:50:00,480 --> 00:50:02,640
Speaker 11: to to throw the football in on Scout. So, uh,

1128
00:50:03,040 --> 00:50:04,960
Speaker 11: it's been it's been cool to see how similar the

1129
00:50:05,000 --> 00:50:07,000
Speaker 11: offenses are and kind of some stuff that we have

1130
00:50:07,080 --> 00:50:08,000
Speaker 11: and some stuff they do differently.

1131
00:50:08,040 --> 00:50:10,280
Speaker 7: So it's been pretty pretty cool that you can only.

1132
00:50:10,120 --> 00:50:11,080
Speaker 4: Control where you can.

1133
00:50:11,239 --> 00:50:13,120
Speaker 12: Did you feel over the last couple of weeks maybe

1134
00:50:13,280 --> 00:50:15,360
Speaker 12: that this was heading in the direction that it's in

1135
00:50:15,440 --> 00:50:17,480
Speaker 12: this week? Did you maybe get you know, more reps

1136
00:50:17,520 --> 00:50:20,080
Speaker 12: in practice? Did you just feel like we're heading in

1137
00:50:20,200 --> 00:50:22,080
Speaker 12: this direction to start this week this early?

1138
00:50:23,480 --> 00:50:25,600
Speaker 11: You know, really, I just trying to prepare and instead

1139
00:50:25,640 --> 00:50:27,040
Speaker 11: try to stay ready every week. You know, I think

1140
00:50:27,520 --> 00:50:29,480
Speaker 11: that's the thing about this league. You never know what

1141
00:50:29,520 --> 00:50:32,160
Speaker 11: your numbers gonna get called, so try to stay ready.

1142
00:50:32,320 --> 00:50:34,400
Speaker 11: And I think, you know, like I said earlier, Jacoby,

1143
00:50:34,760 --> 00:50:36,320
Speaker 11: I think he did all he could. I think he

1144
00:50:36,640 --> 00:50:39,440
Speaker 11: you know, battles his butt off and was a great leader.

1145
00:50:39,520 --> 00:50:42,279
Speaker 11: So I think kind of the biggest thing is, you know,

1146
00:50:42,320 --> 00:50:44,080
Speaker 11: it's the winning league. You know, we're sitting here at

1147
00:50:44,120 --> 00:50:46,759
Speaker 11: one and four, and I think, you know, those guys

1148
00:50:46,800 --> 00:50:51,560
Speaker 11: around here want to win for yourself. Yeah, I think

1149
00:50:52,000 --> 00:50:54,440
Speaker 11: you'll go out there and just try to make some plays.

1150
00:50:54,480 --> 00:50:56,239
Speaker 11: I think the biggest thing I must tell them some

1151
00:50:56,280 --> 00:50:57,960
Speaker 11: of those guys is, you know, probably meet a little

1152
00:50:57,960 --> 00:51:00,359
Speaker 11: nerves at the beginning. But I think the thing once

1153
00:51:00,480 --> 00:51:03,040
Speaker 11: we settle down, we got a chance to move to

1154
00:51:03,080 --> 00:51:05,120
Speaker 11: football and just have fun out there. Back to having

1155
00:51:05,160 --> 00:51:06,959
Speaker 11: fun going out there. Thinks that is what this game about.

1156
00:51:07,000 --> 00:51:09,759
Speaker 11: Don't make it too big or the spotlight too big,

1157
00:51:09,920 --> 00:51:11,560
Speaker 11: and uh, just go out there with those guys that

1158
00:51:12,000 --> 00:51:14,480
Speaker 11: should we've been battling for the three months in training camp.

1159
00:51:15,560 --> 00:51:17,719
Speaker 7: Go out there and try to make some plays open

1160
00:51:17,800 --> 00:51:18,440
Speaker 7: to get home.

1161
00:51:18,560 --> 00:51:20,640
Speaker 1: In front of the fans here. And also, will you

1162
00:51:20,719 --> 00:51:23,919
Speaker 1: have an entire may family section coming at the game?

1163
00:51:24,360 --> 00:51:26,520
Speaker 11: Yeah, I think, you know, I think a few of

1164
00:51:26,520 --> 00:51:28,560
Speaker 11: my brothers and my parents would be here, but uh,

1165
00:51:28,680 --> 00:51:31,279
Speaker 11: nothing in particular. But I think pretty Sweeten and the

1166
00:51:31,360 --> 00:51:34,000
Speaker 11: red throwbacks may me that would be pretty cool to

1167
00:51:34,080 --> 00:51:36,239
Speaker 11: get out there in my first art and especial in

1168
00:51:36,280 --> 00:51:38,360
Speaker 11: front of these fans, and I think Patriots fans the

1169
00:51:39,160 --> 00:51:41,000
Speaker 11: best fans in the league and looking forward to you know,

1170
00:51:41,040 --> 00:51:42,239
Speaker 11: playing Gillette in front of them.

1171
00:51:42,760 --> 00:51:43,040
Speaker 7: Thank you.

1172
00:51:59,320 --> 00:52:01,239
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Speaker 4: And now great moments in.

1186
00:52:47,719 --> 00:52:48,120
Speaker 6: History.

1187
00:52:48,440 --> 00:52:50,800
Speaker 4: So in Sync is playing at the old stadium and

1188
00:52:51,160 --> 00:52:53,920
Speaker 4: like my wife is going, she's taking my nieces and stuff.

1189
00:52:54,880 --> 00:53:00,560
Speaker 4: The webmaster who rickames, he took this piece of cardboard

1190
00:53:00,600 --> 00:53:03,879
Speaker 4: and somehow like butt this wire and it's like honk

1191
00:53:03,920 --> 00:53:04,919
Speaker 4: if you love in sync.

1192
00:53:05,400 --> 00:53:07,960
Speaker 3: But it he rigged it up in such a way

1193
00:53:08,040 --> 00:53:10,239
Speaker 3: that Paul wouldn't see it when he got in his car,

1194
00:53:10,360 --> 00:53:11,799
Speaker 3: but once he started driving.

1195
00:53:11,520 --> 00:53:12,640
Speaker 1: It down down.

1196
00:53:13,160 --> 00:53:14,160
Speaker 7: So I was driving.

1197
00:53:15,520 --> 00:53:18,720
Speaker 4: And everyone and I'm meeting bet at like Papa Gino's

1198
00:53:19,239 --> 00:53:22,759
Speaker 4: and like everybody's beeping and I'm like what. I'm like,

1199
00:53:22,840 --> 00:53:23,959
Speaker 4: I'm driving like ten miles.

1200
00:53:24,520 --> 00:53:27,520
Speaker 1: Hey, ass man, exactly, you got that right.

1201
00:53:27,880 --> 00:53:29,719
Speaker 4: I looked at it. I was like, oh, that's that's

1202
00:53:29,840 --> 00:53:33,480
Speaker 4: just too perfect. Everybody, every single person in the building

1203
00:53:33,560 --> 00:53:35,960
Speaker 4: knew about it, and they all like, were what And

1204
00:53:36,040 --> 00:53:38,120
Speaker 4: they couldn't wait for me to get back because I

1205
00:53:38,239 --> 00:53:40,040
Speaker 4: was going down to meet Beth and my nieces and

1206
00:53:40,160 --> 00:53:41,880
Speaker 4: I was coming back and they were like, I bet go.

1207
00:53:42,640 --> 00:53:44,920
Speaker 3: That's another great moment from.

1208
00:53:47,760 --> 00:53:48,480
Speaker 4: That was a classic.

1209
00:53:48,520 --> 00:53:50,759
Speaker 1: All Right, we're back here with a in SINC super fan,

1210
00:53:50,840 --> 00:53:51,440
Speaker 1: Paul Perillo.

1211
00:53:51,800 --> 00:53:55,799
Speaker 4: I do like him. You know what, it's gonna be mad,

1212
00:53:55,920 --> 00:53:56,960
Speaker 4: It's gonna be made perfect.

1213
00:53:57,000 --> 00:53:57,719
Speaker 1: How perfect is that?

1214
00:53:57,800 --> 00:53:58,040
Speaker 7: Paul?

1215
00:53:58,120 --> 00:54:00,719
Speaker 1: Well, we're riding with Peepy and the Deuce here as

1216
00:54:00,760 --> 00:54:02,600
Speaker 1: Fred left us alone. So now I get to hide and.

1217
00:54:02,640 --> 00:54:04,279
Speaker 4: Even Fred Leven's not going to get us out of

1218
00:54:04,560 --> 00:54:06,440
Speaker 4: good moods. We're just excited, No, we are.

1219
00:54:06,640 --> 00:54:08,239
Speaker 1: There was a funny email. I don't I'm not to

1220
00:54:08,280 --> 00:54:09,880
Speaker 1: go back to it, but somebody said, he's like I

1221
00:54:10,000 --> 00:54:13,239
Speaker 1: love Duce, He's like all Monotona depressed on Tuesday, the

1222
00:54:13,320 --> 00:54:14,920
Speaker 1: post game show on Tuesday, and then he comes in

1223
00:54:15,000 --> 00:54:15,640
Speaker 1: today and I'm.

1224
00:54:15,520 --> 00:54:19,239
Speaker 4: Like, everything Sunday. Sunday was a wellness check on Douce. Yeah,

1225
00:54:19,840 --> 00:54:21,680
Speaker 4: you know, that was a particularly tough loss for you

1226
00:54:21,719 --> 00:54:22,880
Speaker 4: because you put a lot into that one.

1227
00:54:22,960 --> 00:54:23,160
Speaker 3: I did.

1228
00:54:23,200 --> 00:54:25,480
Speaker 1: I had a rank in camera and everything. I took

1229
00:54:25,520 --> 00:54:27,200
Speaker 1: my one like Fred does, and I was like, you know,

1230
00:54:27,280 --> 00:54:29,320
Speaker 1: try to rally the troops. They didn't listen to me, though, No,

1231
00:54:30,320 --> 00:54:32,920
Speaker 1: but you know, that was just feeling like you had

1232
00:54:33,000 --> 00:54:35,600
Speaker 1: maybe a chance to put Miami into more of a

1233
00:54:35,640 --> 00:54:37,920
Speaker 1: spiral and maybe put them below where you're going to

1234
00:54:37,960 --> 00:54:38,759
Speaker 1: be at the end of this year.

1235
00:54:38,760 --> 00:54:39,080
Speaker 4: I don't know.

1236
00:54:39,160 --> 00:54:41,680
Speaker 1: I mean, it's obviously there's so many injuries and things

1237
00:54:41,719 --> 00:54:43,279
Speaker 1: that I had to play out, but you know, just

1238
00:54:43,360 --> 00:54:45,600
Speaker 1: to see the same game again, it goes back to why.

1239
00:54:45,600 --> 00:54:48,160
Speaker 4: The division has some issues. I mean, there's no question

1240
00:54:48,239 --> 00:54:51,080
Speaker 4: Miami certainly didn't fix anything with that win.

1241
00:54:51,440 --> 00:54:51,960
Speaker 7: The other day.

1242
00:54:52,000 --> 00:54:55,080
Speaker 4: Obviously the Jets. I don't know how much talk do

1243
00:54:55,200 --> 00:54:58,480
Speaker 4: we talk about sala I don't think so gone he gone, yeah,

1244
00:54:58,960 --> 00:55:01,120
Speaker 4: so yeah. The division in a little bit of a turmoil,

1245
00:55:01,600 --> 00:55:03,200
Speaker 4: it is, I mean, and Fred will tell you the

1246
00:55:03,239 --> 00:55:07,440
Speaker 4: bills are done anyway, So right window clo closing.

1247
00:55:08,280 --> 00:55:09,839
Speaker 1: So Paul, I'm want to read this email here because

1248
00:55:09,880 --> 00:55:12,000
Speaker 1: I think it's a good one from John in Utah

1249
00:55:12,040 --> 00:55:13,480
Speaker 1: and it's kind of what I kind of how I

1250
00:55:13,560 --> 00:55:14,200
Speaker 1: feel a little bit.

1251
00:55:14,239 --> 00:55:17,040
Speaker 4: Congratulations on the win last night for the hockey club.

1252
00:55:17,120 --> 00:55:19,560
Speaker 1: Oh and he actually mentions that in his email, but

1253
00:55:19,680 --> 00:55:21,680
Speaker 1: he says, I'm trying not to get premat at fans

1254
00:55:21,760 --> 00:55:23,640
Speaker 1: for calling Drake May a bust in December when the

1255
00:55:23,680 --> 00:55:25,680
Speaker 1: team only has three wins and the offense is only

1256
00:55:25,760 --> 00:55:28,360
Speaker 1: marginally improved. I'm glad he's going to get some experience

1257
00:55:28,400 --> 00:55:30,719
Speaker 1: seeing and doing everything firsthand and said on the sideline.

1258
00:55:31,840 --> 00:55:34,520
Speaker 1: He also adds, you know, Jacoby Resenters deserves the NFL's

1259
00:55:34,560 --> 00:55:37,239
Speaker 1: purple heart for standing in behind that offensive line and

1260
00:55:37,320 --> 00:55:40,160
Speaker 1: taking shots constantly. Hopefully they'll be able to improve a bit,

1261
00:55:40,239 --> 00:55:43,440
Speaker 1: but regardless, it'll be a learning experience for Drake. Excited

1262
00:55:43,480 --> 00:55:44,719
Speaker 1: for a new hour and he says he was at

1263
00:55:44,760 --> 00:55:47,799
Speaker 1: the game last night in Utah for the Utah Hockey Club.

1264
00:55:47,840 --> 00:55:49,239
Speaker 1: Are they sticking with that? They gonna change it?

1265
00:55:49,239 --> 00:55:50,759
Speaker 4: I think for the year anyway, that's for the year.

1266
00:55:50,760 --> 00:55:52,400
Speaker 1: That's a new thing they do. They like, you know,

1267
00:55:52,520 --> 00:55:54,520
Speaker 1: you soft launch your your mascot.

1268
00:55:54,800 --> 00:55:56,680
Speaker 4: If you were a team, would you just put a

1269
00:55:56,760 --> 00:55:58,280
Speaker 4: mascot out there sight unseen?

1270
00:55:58,400 --> 00:56:01,960
Speaker 1: Oh no, I know, I bet it for listen right, Well,

1271
00:56:01,960 --> 00:56:04,480
Speaker 1: I like the Fleet. Our own PWHL team went with

1272
00:56:04,520 --> 00:56:06,720
Speaker 1: the Fleet. And I know I'm usually against the singular,

1273
00:56:07,280 --> 00:56:10,000
Speaker 1: but fleet does imply many of ships, so I guess

1274
00:56:10,040 --> 00:56:12,920
Speaker 1: I'm okay with it. Okay, But I like Utah's colors.

1275
00:56:13,320 --> 00:56:15,000
Speaker 1: I think I like like that that light blue like

1276
00:56:15,040 --> 00:56:17,359
Speaker 1: I've always liked main Sorry, I know your hockey's guy.

1277
00:56:18,440 --> 00:56:20,759
Speaker 1: I like those light blue, dark blue kind of combinations.

1278
00:56:20,840 --> 00:56:22,839
Speaker 1: I think they went with a good choice. It wasn't

1279
00:56:22,880 --> 00:56:25,720
Speaker 1: anything too crazy, like you know, those crazy teals and stuff.

1280
00:56:25,719 --> 00:56:27,880
Speaker 1: But but go back to the email, Paul, That's just

1281
00:56:27,960 --> 00:56:30,160
Speaker 1: what I'm worried about. It's like, how do we know

1282
00:56:30,239 --> 00:56:34,680
Speaker 1: the difference without wins and losses of it was good

1283
00:56:34,760 --> 00:56:37,960
Speaker 1: for Drake May versus it wasn't as good as we

1284
00:56:38,000 --> 00:56:39,200
Speaker 1: thought it would be, you know, and I want to

1285
00:56:39,239 --> 00:56:40,840
Speaker 1: be fair to him. Yeah, and it's going to be

1286
00:56:40,840 --> 00:56:43,560
Speaker 1: easy to react to wins and losses. But you know,

1287
00:56:43,600 --> 00:56:45,719
Speaker 1: we talked about ninety three, brought up a couple of

1288
00:56:45,719 --> 00:56:47,760
Speaker 1: times we bled so where they won the last four games,

1289
00:56:47,760 --> 00:56:49,319
Speaker 1: and I mean they won five games all year. They

1290
00:56:49,320 --> 00:56:51,719
Speaker 1: were five and twelve or sorry, five and eleven. See

1291
00:56:51,719 --> 00:56:52,879
Speaker 1: the seventeen games got on my head.

1292
00:56:53,000 --> 00:56:55,040
Speaker 4: Five and eleven, but there was excitement.

1293
00:56:55,080 --> 00:56:57,480
Speaker 1: And obviously you beat Miami and over you you know,

1294
00:56:57,560 --> 00:56:59,320
Speaker 1: you win, and it was overtime too, right as a

1295
00:56:59,400 --> 00:57:01,640
Speaker 1: walk off touch down win to end the season. You

1296
00:57:01,719 --> 00:57:02,600
Speaker 1: don't make the playoffs?

1297
00:57:02,640 --> 00:57:03,759
Speaker 4: Who cut the touchdown pass?

1298
00:57:03,920 --> 00:57:04,120
Speaker 7: You have?

1299
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Speaker 4: What come on? You discussed? I don't know, Michael Timpson.

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00:57:09,920 --> 00:57:12,720
Speaker 1: Timpson and I wouldn't have gotten that one. But obviously

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00:57:12,800 --> 00:57:15,040
Speaker 1: that's the clear example of like that's great, right, Like

1302
00:57:15,120 --> 00:57:17,680
Speaker 1: you won your last four games. I'm sure you can

1303
00:57:17,720 --> 00:57:20,320
Speaker 1: tell us how exactly Bledsoe was playing in those games.

1304
00:57:20,720 --> 00:57:22,640
Speaker 4: But yeah, it might not be like that. He was

1305
00:57:22,720 --> 00:57:24,880
Speaker 4: a typical rookie quarterback. He had his UPSTATECE. I think

1306
00:57:24,880 --> 00:57:27,400
Speaker 4: he had fifteen touchdowns, fifteen picks or something like that.

1307
00:57:27,520 --> 00:57:30,480
Speaker 4: It was right it was, you know, a very mediocre season,

1308
00:57:30,520 --> 00:57:33,600
Speaker 4: but there were games that you saw along the way

1309
00:57:33,640 --> 00:57:37,280
Speaker 4: that you were like, Okay, I can see what they see. Certainly,

1310
00:57:37,720 --> 00:57:39,600
Speaker 4: you know, you could make an argument that that last

1311
00:57:39,680 --> 00:57:41,840
Speaker 4: game against Miami that you were talking about was the

1312
00:57:41,920 --> 00:57:44,000
Speaker 4: best game. You know, I think they I think it

1313
00:57:44,080 --> 00:57:46,320
Speaker 4: was like thirty three twenty seven in overtime, Like it

1314
00:57:46,400 --> 00:57:47,400
Speaker 4: was a high scoring game.

1315
00:57:47,920 --> 00:57:49,000
Speaker 1: You could score more than thirty points.

1316
00:57:49,080 --> 00:57:54,240
Speaker 4: That's yeah, yeah, so you saw. I always say that

1317
00:57:54,400 --> 00:57:56,240
Speaker 4: particularly or not that we need to go back into

1318
00:57:56,280 --> 00:57:59,360
Speaker 4: the nineteen ninety three time machine, but historical comparison, there

1319
00:57:59,400 --> 00:58:01,600
Speaker 4: was a game that he was absolutely off, probably his

1320
00:58:01,720 --> 00:58:05,840
Speaker 4: worst game he played at Pittsburgh, and I think he

1321
00:58:05,960 --> 00:58:11,560
Speaker 4: threw five interceptions. But what I came away that was

1322
00:58:11,640 --> 00:58:13,920
Speaker 4: the most, that was the most convinced that I was

1323
00:58:14,000 --> 00:58:15,400
Speaker 4: that he was going to be a good player, because

1324
00:58:15,880 --> 00:58:19,960
Speaker 4: it was awful. It was three Rivers Stadium. Nothing was

1325
00:58:20,000 --> 00:58:22,160
Speaker 4: going right. He was making all kinds of mistakes, and

1326
00:58:24,400 --> 00:58:26,080
Speaker 4: they got the ball back at the end of the game.

1327
00:58:26,440 --> 00:58:28,600
Speaker 4: I want to say, they were down seventeen to fourteen,

1328
00:58:29,560 --> 00:58:31,880
Speaker 4: and all of a sudden he put together a drive

1329
00:58:32,320 --> 00:58:33,760
Speaker 4: and they went all the way down the field. They

1330
00:58:33,800 --> 00:58:36,439
Speaker 4: had the ball inside the one yard line, they went forward.

1331
00:58:36,520 --> 00:58:38,240
Speaker 4: Instead of kicking the field goal to tie, they went

1332
00:58:38,320 --> 00:58:40,240
Speaker 4: for the win on a quarterback seat. He got stuffed.

1333
00:58:40,960 --> 00:58:45,360
Speaker 4: But I was like, you can play that bad as

1334
00:58:45,400 --> 00:58:47,480
Speaker 4: a rookie, and yet with the game on the line,

1335
00:58:48,160 --> 00:58:51,600
Speaker 4: you put together a drive and you know, obviously they

1336
00:58:51,640 --> 00:58:53,640
Speaker 4: fell short. It was kind of a big thing with

1337
00:58:53,760 --> 00:58:57,439
Speaker 4: Parcels and Led so about the quarterback sneak. Parcells didn't

1338
00:58:57,440 --> 00:58:59,240
Speaker 4: want to do it. Juice that I can get in

1339
00:59:00,120 --> 00:59:01,800
Speaker 4: the whole thing, but like, no, he didn't get in.

1340
00:59:02,920 --> 00:59:06,320
Speaker 4: But I was just like if like I always say,

1341
00:59:06,480 --> 00:59:09,360
Speaker 4: you know, pitchers, like you know, I used to say,

1342
00:59:09,440 --> 00:59:12,040
Speaker 4: like anybody can get guys out when they have their stuff,

1343
00:59:12,520 --> 00:59:13,480
Speaker 4: what do you do when you don't?

1344
00:59:13,600 --> 00:59:13,760
Speaker 8: You know?

1345
00:59:13,920 --> 00:59:16,400
Speaker 4: Same for a quarterback. You know, when you go out

1346
00:59:16,440 --> 00:59:18,920
Speaker 4: and like the first two drives, you go right down

1347
00:59:18,960 --> 00:59:21,560
Speaker 4: the field and it's fourteen. Not anybody can play great

1348
00:59:21,600 --> 00:59:22,840
Speaker 4: the rest of the game that way, But what do

1349
00:59:22,920 --> 00:59:25,880
Speaker 4: you do when you stink for three quarters but the

1350
00:59:25,920 --> 00:59:28,320
Speaker 4: game is still winnable. That's why I give Brissette a

1351
00:59:28,320 --> 00:59:30,600
Speaker 4: little credit. I thought some of his best throws in

1352
00:59:30,720 --> 00:59:33,640
Speaker 4: the five weeks came in that last drive last week.

1353
00:59:33,760 --> 00:59:37,560
Speaker 4: That's hard. That's hard to do mentally to overcome all

1354
00:59:37,640 --> 00:59:40,160
Speaker 4: that adversity that a lot of which is brought on

1355
00:59:40,280 --> 00:59:43,880
Speaker 4: by you and your performance. How do you respond to that?

1356
00:59:44,040 --> 00:59:45,600
Speaker 4: So those are the kinds of little things that I'll

1357
00:59:45,600 --> 00:59:48,080
Speaker 4: be looking for with Drake May. I'm not expecting him

1358
00:59:48,160 --> 00:59:51,880
Speaker 4: to do what Jayden Daniels is doing. Like if that happens, obviously,

1359
00:59:52,120 --> 00:59:54,760
Speaker 4: you know we'll do the fred shirt off thing in

1360
00:59:54,840 --> 00:59:58,320
Speaker 4: the press. No, not only one of us that's in shape.

1361
00:59:58,320 --> 00:59:59,080
Speaker 4: Why wouldn't you do it?

1362
00:59:59,160 --> 01:00:01,240
Speaker 1: I need to horrify everyone in the past box Pall.

1363
01:00:01,360 --> 01:00:03,000
Speaker 1: That's true. We've got enough going for it.

1364
01:00:04,560 --> 01:00:07,160
Speaker 4: Like it'd be great if he was so good that

1365
01:00:07,240 --> 01:00:09,920
Speaker 4: we can all see it. It's obvious to anybody. But

1366
01:00:10,400 --> 01:00:13,120
Speaker 4: more likely it's going to be more of a thing

1367
01:00:13,200 --> 01:00:16,160
Speaker 4: where you know, there's some subtleties that he's he's doing

1368
01:00:16,280 --> 01:00:19,680
Speaker 4: some things better than he had been doing, you know, incrementally,

1369
01:00:19,760 --> 01:00:23,720
Speaker 4: and the offense looks incrementally better than it was with Brissette.

1370
01:00:23,760 --> 01:00:26,160
Speaker 4: And you know, like something that you said before we

1371
01:00:26,200 --> 01:00:29,360
Speaker 4: took the break, you know, is the ball coming out quick?

1372
01:00:29,480 --> 01:00:31,760
Speaker 4: Is it coming out to the right place? The easy stuff?

1373
01:00:31,760 --> 01:00:33,800
Speaker 4: And I think he mentioned that to me, something about,

1374
01:00:34,080 --> 01:00:36,360
Speaker 4: you know, the easy throws, and you had made the

1375
01:00:36,400 --> 01:00:38,760
Speaker 4: comment I just wish we could get the easy stuff

1376
01:00:39,120 --> 01:00:42,640
Speaker 4: with Brissette, and I said, well, what's what's easy? Yeah,

1377
01:00:42,880 --> 01:00:45,480
Speaker 4: like that kind of stuff. It might not translate to

1378
01:00:45,680 --> 01:00:48,400
Speaker 4: more production and more points and all that, but I'd

1379
01:00:48,480 --> 01:00:50,760
Speaker 4: like to see some of those quick throws be completed

1380
01:00:50,840 --> 01:00:51,920
Speaker 4: more often than they have been.

1381
01:00:52,280 --> 01:00:53,760
Speaker 1: Do you think though, I mean, I feel like it's

1382
01:00:53,800 --> 01:00:56,440
Speaker 1: most likely going to be nuanced and it's not going

1383
01:00:56,560 --> 01:00:59,480
Speaker 1: to be a box score like look at the box score,

1384
01:00:59,520 --> 01:01:01,600
Speaker 1: and you know, you know, like and I think that's

1385
01:01:01,640 --> 01:01:03,280
Speaker 1: one of the things that like you're good at because

1386
01:01:03,720 --> 01:01:05,800
Speaker 1: sometimes people it feels like just read the box score

1387
01:01:05,840 --> 01:01:07,120
Speaker 1: and then they say it and then you come and

1388
01:01:07,240 --> 01:01:10,360
Speaker 1: like rattle off the play sequence and you're like, well, actually,

1389
01:01:10,480 --> 01:01:12,680
Speaker 1: you know, and I said.

1390
01:01:12,520 --> 01:01:14,000
Speaker 4: Like, how many holding calls did they get in the

1391
01:01:14,040 --> 01:01:16,439
Speaker 4: game the other day that wiped out running plays? Yeah?

1392
01:01:16,920 --> 01:01:18,840
Speaker 4: I know that kind of stuff.

1393
01:01:19,680 --> 01:01:22,520
Speaker 1: Is there any chance that he's even better than we're expecting?

1394
01:01:22,560 --> 01:01:24,280
Speaker 1: I mean, I know we're not super you know, over

1395
01:01:24,360 --> 01:01:25,080
Speaker 1: the top positive.

1396
01:01:25,080 --> 01:01:26,840
Speaker 4: I think there's a big I think there's a really

1397
01:01:26,880 --> 01:01:28,720
Speaker 4: good chance he's better than I'm expecting. Because I'm not

1398
01:01:28,800 --> 01:01:30,120
Speaker 4: expecting much at the start.

1399
01:01:30,320 --> 01:01:32,960
Speaker 1: I'm trying to temper expectations. But you know, that's what

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01:01:33,080 --> 01:01:35,520
Speaker 1: I just want to set reasonable. I felt like I

1401
01:01:35,640 --> 01:01:37,440
Speaker 1: was reasonable, Like someone wrote in and said, you know,

1402
01:01:37,560 --> 01:01:39,320
Speaker 1: I felt like, get to November, that's when I was

1403
01:01:39,360 --> 01:01:40,600
Speaker 1: going to start to get the itch. I felt like

1404
01:01:40,640 --> 01:01:42,360
Speaker 1: that was reasonable. And I want to be you know,

1405
01:01:42,440 --> 01:01:45,000
Speaker 1: reasonable in my expectations of what he can do. But

1406
01:01:45,560 --> 01:01:47,200
Speaker 1: I think the only thing that will disappoint me, though,

1407
01:01:47,280 --> 01:01:50,040
Speaker 1: is that if we don't see those glimpses of the talent,

1408
01:01:50,160 --> 01:01:53,240
Speaker 1: you know, the athleticism, the army. But to be fair,

1409
01:01:53,320 --> 01:01:55,960
Speaker 1: I feel like those things were on display from the

1410
01:01:56,040 --> 01:01:58,720
Speaker 1: word go this spring when we first got him out there,

1411
01:01:58,760 --> 01:02:01,160
Speaker 1: and he was just you know, not all of them complete,

1412
01:02:01,800 --> 01:02:04,040
Speaker 1: but not afraid to chuck the ball down the field,

1413
01:02:04,120 --> 01:02:06,240
Speaker 1: to throw the ball where he's you know, in the air,

1414
01:02:06,400 --> 01:02:08,120
Speaker 1: and and you know, off platform, all that stuff. Like

1415
01:02:08,200 --> 01:02:10,520
Speaker 1: he just he didn't hesitate from any of that stuff.

1416
01:02:10,520 --> 01:02:14,120
Speaker 4: I want to see some offense that just looks natural.

1417
01:02:14,200 --> 01:02:16,920
Speaker 4: Patriots think of Patriots Patriots plays. I want to see

1418
01:02:17,000 --> 01:02:18,040
Speaker 4: offense that looks normal.

1419
01:02:18,600 --> 01:02:21,320
Speaker 1: All right, let's jump over to the phones here. Check

1420
01:02:21,360 --> 01:02:24,640
Speaker 1: out Mike Vermont the TPX Hotline. Thanks for reminding me,

1421
01:02:24,920 --> 01:02:32,040
Speaker 1: Mike and Vermont. He Mike, Mike, Mike, Mike, Mike, Mike, Mike.

1422
01:02:32,080 --> 01:02:33,640
Speaker 1: I'm not a phone dropper. You gotta come on. But

1423
01:02:33,760 --> 01:02:37,960
Speaker 1: all right, you're out jumping down to Vegas, Vinnie, Vegas.

1424
01:02:38,000 --> 01:02:44,200
Speaker 8: Ay, Anny, Hey guys, how's been going? Hey?

1425
01:02:44,360 --> 01:02:45,240
Speaker 7: Uh, I am.

1426
01:02:45,480 --> 01:02:49,520
Speaker 8: I'm excited for Drake. I don't have a lot of expectations.

1427
01:02:49,560 --> 01:02:54,680
Speaker 8: I just wanted to start going on his development. I

1428
01:02:54,800 --> 01:02:57,480
Speaker 8: did actually listen to some of the Pole's shows the

1429
01:02:57,600 --> 01:03:00,360
Speaker 8: other day, and you know, they brought out that they

1430
01:03:00,920 --> 01:03:05,200
Speaker 8: they felt like the move was a panic move, and

1431
01:03:05,320 --> 01:03:08,000
Speaker 8: I don't I don't fully disagree with it. What I

1432
01:03:08,120 --> 01:03:13,800
Speaker 8: do disagree with is that the Houston Texans are you know,

1433
01:03:13,920 --> 01:03:15,880
Speaker 8: the worst time to do it, you know, a month

1434
01:03:15,920 --> 01:03:20,120
Speaker 8: ago when they say that the plan was made, there

1435
01:03:20,240 --> 01:03:23,160
Speaker 8: was no soft landing spot for Drake on the first

1436
01:03:23,440 --> 01:03:26,200
Speaker 8: you know, six weeks. I mean you had you know,

1437
01:03:26,320 --> 01:03:28,840
Speaker 8: at that point, the Dolphins had their quarterback, right, I

1438
01:03:28,920 --> 01:03:31,120
Speaker 8: mean that that was going to be a game that

1439
01:03:31,200 --> 01:03:33,720
Speaker 8: we were going to lose a home, right, And so

1440
01:03:33,840 --> 01:03:36,160
Speaker 8: I don't fully agree that, you know, if the plan

1441
01:03:36,360 --> 01:03:39,640
Speaker 8: was made a month ago, that they were they should

1442
01:03:39,680 --> 01:03:42,880
Speaker 8: have been starting before now like that. That doesn't go

1443
01:03:43,000 --> 01:03:45,040
Speaker 8: with me. And I do have a question for you guys.

1444
01:03:46,040 --> 01:03:48,640
Speaker 8: How big of a deal it is that Kendrick Bourne

1445
01:03:49,000 --> 01:03:50,440
Speaker 8: is going to be able to play and as a

1446
01:03:50,480 --> 01:03:51,080
Speaker 8: full goal.

1447
01:03:52,160 --> 01:03:53,640
Speaker 4: Gotcha, thanks for many appreciate the call.

1448
01:03:53,840 --> 01:03:55,960
Speaker 1: Uh another guy? Yet another guy?

1449
01:03:56,160 --> 01:03:58,160
Speaker 4: I mean, another another option in the passing game? Are

1450
01:03:58,200 --> 01:03:59,360
Speaker 4: they they need more?

1451
01:03:59,760 --> 01:04:01,800
Speaker 1: Start to ramp up to a little bit more. I mean,

1452
01:04:01,880 --> 01:04:03,600
Speaker 1: he didn't didn't play a lot, and he said, what

1453
01:04:03,680 --> 01:04:04,080
Speaker 1: do you say?

1454
01:04:04,120 --> 01:04:06,040
Speaker 4: He probably felt like you needed another couple of weeks

1455
01:04:06,080 --> 01:04:08,240
Speaker 4: before that was going to happen. But yeah, I think

1456
01:04:08,280 --> 01:04:10,240
Speaker 4: he's a better player than the guys that are not

1457
01:04:10,320 --> 01:04:11,960
Speaker 4: going to be playing now, So I think that helps.

1458
01:04:13,360 --> 01:04:13,840
Speaker 4: Sticking with the.

1459
01:04:13,840 --> 01:04:19,240
Speaker 1: TPX hoighline, Patty's up.

1460
01:04:19,240 --> 01:04:23,560
Speaker 7: Dan, Hey, I got typ one.

1461
01:04:24,280 --> 01:04:28,480
Speaker 14: Yeah, so PAULI I got Michael Timpson when you said that,

1462
01:04:28,640 --> 01:04:30,360
Speaker 14: I got I got that right away. I'm like, how

1463
01:04:30,440 --> 01:04:32,160
Speaker 14: the hell does Douce not know that that was Michael

1464
01:04:32,160 --> 01:04:33,880
Speaker 14: Timpson who he.

1465
01:04:34,000 --> 01:04:35,720
Speaker 4: Was just blogging at the time.

1466
01:04:38,560 --> 01:04:40,600
Speaker 14: I'm Mike, I don't know what to say o that.

1467
01:04:41,000 --> 01:04:45,800
Speaker 14: I'm excited. I can't wait. And the bigger question I

1468
01:04:45,880 --> 01:04:48,080
Speaker 14: wanted to ask you guys, and well, it's not the

1469
01:04:48,080 --> 01:04:50,120
Speaker 14: bigger question. The smaller question I wanted to ask you

1470
01:04:50,240 --> 01:04:53,960
Speaker 14: guys is do you think do you guys have any

1471
01:04:54,000 --> 01:04:57,640
Speaker 14: interest in Devin Waite, who has been recently released due

1472
01:04:57,680 --> 01:04:59,560
Speaker 14: to the attrition that's been on the team and on

1473
01:04:59,680 --> 01:05:01,920
Speaker 14: the deep and specifically up the middle of the defense.

1474
01:05:02,200 --> 01:05:03,120
Speaker 15: Yeah, I think he'd be.

1475
01:05:03,120 --> 01:05:05,320
Speaker 14: A good ad. I'd love to seem in Patriots blue.

1476
01:05:07,160 --> 01:05:08,160
Speaker 14: I don't know what you guys think.

1477
01:05:08,320 --> 01:05:11,240
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, thanks Paddy, I I'd be all for it.

1478
01:05:11,440 --> 01:05:13,000
Speaker 4: I first thought was why is he released?

1479
01:05:13,160 --> 01:05:14,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean that is a question, and I don't

1480
01:05:14,840 --> 01:05:16,680
Speaker 1: know why he hasn't played, isn't dressed for a single

1481
01:05:16,720 --> 01:05:19,920
Speaker 1: game in Philly. But I don't know. I'm always intrigued

1482
01:05:19,960 --> 01:05:21,640
Speaker 1: because just because they don't have anybody right now, and

1483
01:05:21,720 --> 01:05:23,440
Speaker 1: I you know, and I'm.

1484
01:05:23,000 --> 01:05:24,920
Speaker 4: Not I wouldn't kill him for doing it, you know,

1485
01:05:25,120 --> 01:05:26,520
Speaker 4: But my guess is he's done?

1486
01:05:26,760 --> 01:05:28,919
Speaker 1: What's he have left? Yeah, I mean it's fair to wonder.

1487
01:05:28,960 --> 01:05:31,880
Speaker 1: I don't know enough about him, But it's just when

1488
01:05:31,880 --> 01:05:33,320
Speaker 1: these names get released, like a guy is a good

1489
01:05:33,680 --> 01:05:35,160
Speaker 1: and then for eternity, it's.

1490
01:05:35,080 --> 01:05:37,640
Speaker 4: I absolutely loved dev Devin White and Tampa was a

1491
01:05:38,120 --> 01:05:38,800
Speaker 4: great player.

1492
01:05:39,400 --> 01:05:40,560
Speaker 1: How did he fall off so quick?

1493
01:05:41,000 --> 01:05:42,680
Speaker 4: Because I just think there's a lot of wear and

1494
01:05:42,720 --> 01:05:45,960
Speaker 4: tear at that spot, like a little so there was

1495
01:05:46,040 --> 01:05:49,520
Speaker 4: a trend in the league that really went wide widespread

1496
01:05:49,760 --> 01:05:53,360
Speaker 4: with that, you know, that undersized athletic inside linebacker types.

1497
01:05:54,320 --> 01:05:57,200
Speaker 4: It was you know, Patrick Queen and Roquan Smith and

1498
01:05:57,520 --> 01:06:01,280
Speaker 4: Kenneth Murray and Devin White, Devin Bush. I think in

1499
01:06:01,360 --> 01:06:04,760
Speaker 4: Pittsburgh there were a lot of guys like that, and

1500
01:06:04,880 --> 01:06:07,480
Speaker 4: I loved them. I thought it was sort of a

1501
01:06:07,600 --> 01:06:10,840
Speaker 4: new way. And Belichick wasn't enamored with those guys. They

1502
01:06:10,880 --> 01:06:14,200
Speaker 4: were too small for him. Devin White's a guy that

1503
01:06:14,320 --> 01:06:16,880
Speaker 4: was really really good. I just think there's probably a

1504
01:06:16,920 --> 01:06:19,880
Speaker 4: lot of wear and tear being a little undersized.

1505
01:06:19,800 --> 01:06:21,800
Speaker 1: I mean, even not being undersized. Look at j Want Bentley,

1506
01:06:21,840 --> 01:06:23,360
Speaker 1: I mean he's getting a little bit wear in tear.

1507
01:06:24,040 --> 01:06:24,880
Speaker 1: Darren Side as.

1508
01:06:24,800 --> 01:06:26,840
Speaker 4: Well, But I do I mean, I would have no

1509
01:06:26,960 --> 01:06:28,800
Speaker 4: problem with taking a flyer on a guy like that

1510
01:06:29,000 --> 01:06:31,840
Speaker 4: obviously had the ability to be an impact player in

1511
01:06:31,880 --> 01:06:33,480
Speaker 4: the league. Whether or not he could still do it,

1512
01:06:33,960 --> 01:06:34,840
Speaker 4: who knows, you know.

1513
01:06:35,640 --> 01:06:38,920
Speaker 1: Sticking with the TPX hotline, it's very hot on the

1514
01:06:38,960 --> 01:06:40,520
Speaker 1: hot line today, Kendall, North Carolina.

1515
01:06:40,560 --> 01:06:44,040
Speaker 4: Hey Kendall, go on, what's.

1516
01:06:43,920 --> 01:06:47,400
Speaker 6: Up when you when do you think you know what?

1517
01:06:47,560 --> 01:06:47,840
Speaker 6: You had?

1518
01:06:48,640 --> 01:06:49,200
Speaker 14: Take a year?

1519
01:06:49,280 --> 01:06:50,080
Speaker 2: About two years?

1520
01:06:50,680 --> 01:06:53,160
Speaker 16: And then my facond question is are.

1521
01:06:53,040 --> 01:06:53,480
Speaker 7: You saying.

1522
01:06:57,160 --> 01:06:58,280
Speaker 1: I said I didn't?

1523
01:06:59,160 --> 01:07:01,440
Speaker 4: When when do you think you'll know about the quarterback?

1524
01:07:01,520 --> 01:07:03,480
Speaker 4: And I would say around this time next year, you'll

1525
01:07:03,480 --> 01:07:05,959
Speaker 4: probably have a pretty good clue, just assuming he plays

1526
01:07:05,960 --> 01:07:08,920
Speaker 4: all the games like that get hurt, Like if he plays,

1527
01:07:09,360 --> 01:07:11,480
Speaker 4: you know whatever, what do they have left till twelve?

1528
01:07:12,440 --> 01:07:14,400
Speaker 4: We have twelve games left, So if he plays twelve

1529
01:07:14,800 --> 01:07:17,920
Speaker 4: and then you know another, you know, half dozen or

1530
01:07:17,960 --> 01:07:19,960
Speaker 4: so next year, you probably have a good idea of

1531
01:07:20,200 --> 01:07:20,520
Speaker 4: where he.

1532
01:07:20,600 --> 01:07:23,200
Speaker 1: Is, and you'll see how they are, what the new

1533
01:07:23,280 --> 01:07:26,040
Speaker 1: pieces are doing, you know, is their round tackle?

1534
01:07:26,440 --> 01:07:30,080
Speaker 4: Like it's never perfect, Like Trevor Lawrence, Like he played

1535
01:07:30,120 --> 01:07:32,600
Speaker 4: his rookie year and it was a disaster with urban

1536
01:07:32,680 --> 01:07:35,360
Speaker 4: Meyer and all that mess that went on there. And

1537
01:07:35,440 --> 01:07:38,240
Speaker 4: then he took a second year, and then as the

1538
01:07:38,280 --> 01:07:40,640
Speaker 4: second year sort of was wrapping up, it looked like

1539
01:07:40,680 --> 01:07:43,160
Speaker 4: he was getting really good. And then third year he

1540
01:07:43,240 --> 01:07:46,200
Speaker 4: looked like he was phenomenal, and then all of a

1541
01:07:46,240 --> 01:07:48,360
Speaker 4: sudden he hurt his ankle and he lost nine games

1542
01:07:48,400 --> 01:07:51,439
Speaker 4: in a row and finally snapped that streak last week.

1543
01:07:51,560 --> 01:07:54,320
Speaker 4: So certainly, if you went halfway to the second year

1544
01:07:54,400 --> 01:07:56,560
Speaker 4: for Trevor Lawrence, you'd be like, Oh, we got something here.

1545
01:07:56,640 --> 01:07:59,640
Speaker 4: He's he's definitely on the rise. And I still think

1546
01:07:59,680 --> 01:08:01,600
Speaker 4: he's good to me too. I know, I don't think

1547
01:08:01,600 --> 01:08:02,040
Speaker 4: he's great.

1548
01:08:02,160 --> 01:08:04,800
Speaker 1: I know it scares me. I mean, I guess is

1549
01:08:04,880 --> 01:08:07,240
Speaker 1: the path to greatness always I mean, I know it's

1550
01:08:07,280 --> 01:08:09,520
Speaker 1: a little bumpy, but is it generally up? I mean,

1551
01:08:09,560 --> 01:08:11,960
Speaker 1: with him, it seems like it's you know, I don't

1552
01:08:11,960 --> 01:08:13,480
Speaker 1: know if he's still on that path of greatness.

1553
01:08:13,480 --> 01:08:15,240
Speaker 4: And Kendall, I would just say the wide receivers are

1554
01:08:15,240 --> 01:08:17,960
Speaker 4: probably what you saw on Sunday. I think it's Douglas Polk.

1555
01:08:18,000 --> 01:08:21,519
Speaker 4: I think it's Douglas Polk born with some some booty

1556
01:08:21,600 --> 01:08:23,840
Speaker 4: mixed in, like mixing in the booty.

1557
01:08:23,920 --> 01:08:26,519
Speaker 1: I like booty Stick, one of the TPX hotline, but

1558
01:08:26,600 --> 01:08:29,160
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1561
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1562
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1564
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Speaker 1: of the New England Patriots. Heading out to Toronto, Brad,

1565
01:08:48,479 --> 01:08:49,680
Speaker 1: I think the Maple Lice got off to a good

1566
01:08:49,680 --> 01:08:51,479
Speaker 1: start last night today, did they didn't?

1567
01:08:51,479 --> 01:08:52,639
Speaker 4: I didn't care they played.

1568
01:08:53,080 --> 01:08:54,679
Speaker 1: Maybe they didn't tonight.

1569
01:08:55,600 --> 01:08:55,840
Speaker 4: Come on.

1570
01:08:56,320 --> 01:08:58,640
Speaker 1: There's just a lot of hype, a lot of I.

1571
01:08:58,680 --> 01:09:01,080
Speaker 4: Know, Brad, I got it with mister hockey here.

1572
01:09:01,240 --> 01:09:04,160
Speaker 1: Sorry. Yah, he doesn't even know what's going on up

1573
01:09:04,200 --> 01:09:04,639
Speaker 1: in Toronto.

1574
01:09:05,880 --> 01:09:08,559
Speaker 16: Oh nothing, really, I just got a quick question talking

1575
01:09:08,560 --> 01:09:11,360
Speaker 16: about starting May. Would it autun made sense to start

1576
01:09:11,400 --> 01:09:14,120
Speaker 16: him last week? Considered it's a short week going to London.

1577
01:09:14,920 --> 01:09:16,640
Speaker 16: They got the Jags, so I didn't know what the

1578
01:09:16,680 --> 01:09:19,120
Speaker 16: schedule is. Yeah, you would think that it'll be a

1579
01:09:19,200 --> 01:09:21,759
Speaker 16: shorter week this week, coming up after Houston.

1580
01:09:22,720 --> 01:09:24,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, thanks, Brad.

1581
01:09:24,560 --> 01:09:24,920
Speaker 4: I don't know.

1582
01:09:25,000 --> 01:09:26,439
Speaker 1: I just I think we've been saying it for so long,

1583
01:09:26,479 --> 01:09:28,639
Speaker 1: POULI it's like it's never gonna be perfect, Like there's

1584
01:09:28,640 --> 01:09:30,320
Speaker 1: always gonna be something you can point out to be

1585
01:09:30,400 --> 01:09:31,479
Speaker 1: like it shouldn't be this week?

1586
01:09:31,680 --> 01:09:34,360
Speaker 4: And would he just like what Brad just said. Yeah, like,

1587
01:09:34,479 --> 01:09:36,160
Speaker 4: I think you could make an argument you should have

1588
01:09:36,160 --> 01:09:37,960
Speaker 4: played last week. I think you could argument they could

1589
01:09:37,960 --> 01:09:40,920
Speaker 4: have waited un till next week, and then you could say, well,

1590
01:09:40,920 --> 01:09:42,720
Speaker 4: why would you do it next week when it's going

1591
01:09:42,800 --> 01:09:46,200
Speaker 4: to be London and all that. So yeah, I mean

1592
01:09:46,240 --> 01:09:48,800
Speaker 4: there's there's no perfect time. I'm just excited that it's

1593
01:09:48,960 --> 01:09:49,400
Speaker 4: it's time.

1594
01:09:49,600 --> 01:09:51,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, I mean maybe it's a good thing.

1595
01:09:51,240 --> 01:09:53,160
Speaker 1: Maybe you spin it that way of all right, Well,

1596
01:09:53,240 --> 01:09:55,559
Speaker 1: like I said earlier, you're getting him to face against

1597
01:09:55,560 --> 01:09:57,360
Speaker 1: a young, up and coming team that seems like it's

1598
01:09:57,400 --> 01:09:58,519
Speaker 1: going to be in the mix for a while. And

1599
01:09:58,640 --> 01:10:00,920
Speaker 1: then you know, Jackson it's been up and down, but

1600
01:10:01,280 --> 01:10:03,400
Speaker 1: you know, still has kind of a teeter with that,

1601
01:10:03,880 --> 01:10:05,640
Speaker 1: you know, with that up and coming thing for a

1602
01:10:05,680 --> 01:10:07,720
Speaker 1: little bit. I mean they know that they've fallen back

1603
01:10:07,720 --> 01:10:09,640
Speaker 1: a little bit, but you know, and he gets an

1604
01:10:09,840 --> 01:10:12,120
Speaker 1: opportunity to go on a you know, a foreign stadium,

1605
01:10:12,200 --> 01:10:12,720
Speaker 1: and you know, all the.

1606
01:10:13,439 --> 01:10:15,320
Speaker 4: Thing is interesting. It's another one like we don't have

1607
01:10:15,400 --> 01:10:18,760
Speaker 4: to turn it into like Jacksonville podcast. But they were

1608
01:10:18,760 --> 01:10:21,439
Speaker 4: a disaster then all of a sudden, they they won

1609
01:10:21,520 --> 01:10:24,040
Speaker 4: a division at nine and eight. Then they won a

1610
01:10:24,080 --> 01:10:28,160
Speaker 4: playoff game with an unbelievable comeback against the Chargers. Yeah.

1611
01:10:28,320 --> 01:10:32,880
Speaker 4: Then they were eight and three last year, number one

1612
01:10:32,920 --> 01:10:35,840
Speaker 4: seed in the AFC, and then Trevor Lawrence turned his

1613
01:10:35,880 --> 01:10:38,920
Speaker 4: ankle and they never won to get they won one game,

1614
01:10:39,600 --> 01:10:43,880
Speaker 4: I believe they beat Carolina without Trevor Lawrence and that

1615
01:10:44,040 --> 01:10:45,519
Speaker 4: was it and they ended up losing out in the

1616
01:10:45,560 --> 01:10:49,760
Speaker 4: playoffs and then they will you know what, they lose

1617
01:10:49,800 --> 01:10:51,439
Speaker 4: four in a row to start the year until they

1618
01:10:51,479 --> 01:10:53,960
Speaker 4: won the other day. I still think that's a good

1619
01:10:53,960 --> 01:10:57,760
Speaker 4: football team, that's a talented team, that's, you know, got

1620
01:10:57,800 --> 01:11:00,679
Speaker 4: some problems. Obviously they won in four. They have problems,

1621
01:11:01,320 --> 01:11:02,960
Speaker 4: but I still think they have some talent.

1622
01:11:03,600 --> 01:11:05,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, danon Virginia, I mean, I don't really want to

1623
01:11:05,600 --> 01:11:08,519
Speaker 1: read this one because he's talking about, like with Drake starting.

1624
01:11:08,600 --> 01:11:10,920
Speaker 1: It removes the fear I've had while seeing Jacoby take

1625
01:11:10,960 --> 01:11:13,200
Speaker 1: a beating. If Jacoby were to sustain a long term

1626
01:11:13,240 --> 01:11:14,960
Speaker 1: or season ending injury, he wo'll be the backup to

1627
01:11:15,040 --> 01:11:18,160
Speaker 1: Drake should he, god forbid, suffer a similar injury. Joe

1628
01:11:18,240 --> 01:11:21,880
Speaker 1: Milton Mayo said today that it would be said to

1629
01:11:21,960 --> 01:11:24,800
Speaker 1: be Jacoby, but is that what people are afraid of?

1630
01:11:25,000 --> 01:11:27,800
Speaker 1: Is that what they're afraid of its long time because

1631
01:11:27,800 --> 01:11:29,439
Speaker 1: they're just afraid of him getting hurt by a really

1632
01:11:29,479 --> 01:11:29,800
Speaker 1: good time.

1633
01:11:29,800 --> 01:11:32,160
Speaker 4: That's what I mean. I know I'm picking on Mike Lombardi,

1634
01:11:32,200 --> 01:11:34,160
Speaker 4: and I know he was a general manager in the league,

1635
01:11:34,240 --> 01:11:37,639
Speaker 4: So you know, what have I ever done? Nothing that's accurate.

1636
01:11:37,720 --> 01:11:39,320
Speaker 4: You guys are accurate to point that out.

1637
01:11:40,120 --> 01:11:41,200
Speaker 6: But I just.

1638
01:11:43,320 --> 01:11:46,280
Speaker 4: You can't operate in fear of injury in that league.

1639
01:11:46,320 --> 01:11:50,240
Speaker 4: Everybody like injuries. Everybody's dealing with them. People are going

1640
01:11:50,320 --> 01:11:53,880
Speaker 4: to get hurt, you know, no one wants them to happen.

1641
01:11:54,000 --> 01:11:57,840
Speaker 4: But like if you had to say, Mike, if you

1642
01:11:57,960 --> 01:12:00,840
Speaker 4: had to say, do you think Kobe Brissett would have

1643
01:12:00,840 --> 01:12:02,799
Speaker 4: started seventeen games physically?

1644
01:12:03,000 --> 01:12:03,840
Speaker 3: No, no way.

1645
01:12:04,280 --> 01:12:05,760
Speaker 4: Do you think Drake may is going to start the

1646
01:12:05,840 --> 01:12:08,479
Speaker 4: last twelve? God? I hope so, but probably not right

1647
01:12:08,600 --> 01:12:11,680
Speaker 4: because it's just like that's what happens. I know, like

1648
01:12:11,760 --> 01:12:14,320
Speaker 4: there's a reason that almost none of the quarterbacks will

1649
01:12:14,360 --> 01:12:17,000
Speaker 4: start all seventeen games for their teams. You just pray

1650
01:12:17,080 --> 01:12:21,639
Speaker 4: it's not acl or you know, maybe like he sprains

1651
01:12:21,680 --> 01:12:24,320
Speaker 4: his shoulder or something, and you know, like he has

1652
01:12:24,600 --> 01:12:26,680
Speaker 4: left shoulder. I guess the miss a week and not

1653
01:12:27,000 --> 01:12:31,439
Speaker 4: like the season, but that's what the unfortunate fact of

1654
01:12:31,479 --> 01:12:33,680
Speaker 4: the matter is is these guys are probably going to

1655
01:12:33,720 --> 01:12:34,080
Speaker 4: get hurt.

1656
01:12:34,280 --> 01:12:37,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, I know, well, I think that's what's scary is

1657
01:12:37,080 --> 01:12:38,360
Speaker 1: is you get into the game and all of a

1658
01:12:38,360 --> 01:12:40,519
Speaker 1: sudden it looks like that Eagles joint practice did where

1659
01:12:40,520 --> 01:12:41,720
Speaker 1: you're just like, he can't do any I mean, what

1660
01:12:41,760 --> 01:12:43,400
Speaker 1: do you want to do? Like they're right in his

1661
01:12:43,479 --> 01:12:46,120
Speaker 1: face every you know, that's what's scary. And then is

1662
01:12:46,160 --> 01:12:48,360
Speaker 1: the hit start to add up? Does it? You know,

1663
01:12:48,479 --> 01:12:50,519
Speaker 1: that is something to watch over the long term of

1664
01:12:50,640 --> 01:12:52,679
Speaker 1: does the tonnage catch up with him? Does he start

1665
01:12:52,760 --> 01:12:53,960
Speaker 1: to get sped up?

1666
01:12:54,080 --> 01:12:57,559
Speaker 4: That's as they start watching the rush and instantly bailing,

1667
01:12:57,720 --> 01:13:00,280
Speaker 4: which is I think with the line of demarcation came

1668
01:13:00,320 --> 01:13:01,040
Speaker 4: with Mac Jones.

1669
01:13:01,120 --> 01:13:05,839
Speaker 1: Yeah right right, just kept catching up but fingers crossed.

1670
01:13:05,920 --> 01:13:09,120
Speaker 1: We'll see TPX outline. Matthew Arizona.

1671
01:13:09,280 --> 01:13:12,200
Speaker 7: Matthew was going to.

1672
01:13:12,200 --> 01:13:16,920
Speaker 13: Get here man. Yeah right, So yeah, I'm really excited

1673
01:13:17,040 --> 01:13:19,920
Speaker 13: for for Dreak to start kind of thinking back and

1674
01:13:20,000 --> 01:13:22,640
Speaker 13: what you guys are talking about, like a blessed his

1675
01:13:22,720 --> 01:13:25,160
Speaker 13: first year, we won five and eleven. Correct me from

1676
01:13:25,520 --> 01:13:25,960
Speaker 13: long but.

1677
01:13:26,479 --> 01:13:28,040
Speaker 17: I think it was like eight of the eleven maybe

1678
01:13:28,040 --> 01:13:31,040
Speaker 17: the eight eleven games, like, you know, we're close to winning.

1679
01:13:31,080 --> 01:13:33,280
Speaker 17: So I think with Drake and looking at like progression

1680
01:13:33,320 --> 01:13:39,200
Speaker 17: more than evening like that he didn't need Brady because

1681
01:13:39,360 --> 01:13:41,880
Speaker 17: Pluso was getting Jack so much that he can get hurt.

1682
01:13:42,320 --> 01:13:45,599
Speaker 17: He got injured during a Lesso came it was able.

1683
01:13:45,400 --> 01:13:47,840
Speaker 13: To win it, so you have to fear of injury.

1684
01:13:47,920 --> 01:13:50,000
Speaker 13: But that progressing in.

1685
01:13:50,000 --> 01:13:53,920
Speaker 4: The NFL, Yeah, I didn't hear a lot of that.

1686
01:13:54,479 --> 01:13:58,240
Speaker 4: I know he's right about the ninety three seasons. It

1687
01:13:58,400 --> 01:14:01,880
Speaker 4: was very lot was very competitive, like they lost a

1688
01:14:01,960 --> 01:14:05,240
Speaker 4: lot of close games. They were you know, I want

1689
01:14:05,320 --> 01:14:08,040
Speaker 4: to say, like it was like one in six and

1690
01:14:08,120 --> 01:14:11,080
Speaker 4: then like seven, eight nine, Like they were like one

1691
01:14:11,160 --> 01:14:13,120
Speaker 4: score games like over and over and over. They just

1692
01:14:13,200 --> 01:14:15,280
Speaker 4: couldn't find a way to win one of them. And

1693
01:14:15,360 --> 01:14:19,920
Speaker 4: then they played really well finally in December and I

1694
01:14:19,960 --> 01:14:21,760
Speaker 4: think they beat I want to say, they beat the

1695
01:14:21,800 --> 01:14:24,320
Speaker 4: Colts like thirty eight to nothing, you know, in one

1696
01:14:24,360 --> 01:14:26,640
Speaker 4: of those games. And obviously the Miami game that we

1697
01:14:26,720 --> 01:14:31,120
Speaker 4: talked about. But the one thing that Parcels did a

1698
01:14:31,240 --> 01:14:33,360
Speaker 4: really really good job of. He said, I'm gonna put

1699
01:14:33,360 --> 01:14:35,519
Speaker 4: this kid, I'm gonna throw him to the Wolves. But

1700
01:14:35,640 --> 01:14:38,280
Speaker 4: he made sure that he was protected. That's the one

1701
01:14:38,360 --> 01:14:42,880
Speaker 4: thing that really one glaring thing difference, especially Bledsoe. Right, Well,

1702
01:14:42,960 --> 01:14:45,760
Speaker 4: Drew didn't get first of all, this is like you

1703
01:14:45,840 --> 01:14:48,680
Speaker 4: knew that he wasn't exactly like Lamar Jackson back there,

1704
01:14:48,720 --> 01:14:51,400
Speaker 4: but when he came out, he wasn't the guy what

1705
01:14:51,760 --> 01:14:54,360
Speaker 4: did Ernie Adams call him in the documentary the wounded

1706
01:14:54,439 --> 01:14:58,719
Speaker 4: wildebeest or something like that. He wasn't that at that time.

1707
01:14:58,840 --> 01:15:00,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, he's like shake a little bit.

1708
01:15:00,920 --> 01:15:03,760
Speaker 4: He never got sacked his first like when Parcells was

1709
01:15:03,840 --> 01:15:06,519
Speaker 4: the coach, that was what four years. He never got sacked.

1710
01:15:07,000 --> 01:15:10,560
Speaker 4: He didn't start getting sacked until Parcells left. And I

1711
01:15:10,640 --> 01:15:12,439
Speaker 4: think it was part of coaching with you know, when

1712
01:15:12,520 --> 01:15:16,120
Speaker 4: Carol came in, like it wasn't the same sort of

1713
01:15:16,439 --> 01:15:19,880
Speaker 4: dedication to protecting the passer because they had gotten sacked

1714
01:15:19,920 --> 01:15:23,120
Speaker 4: like an absurd amount of times in ninety two and

1715
01:15:23,320 --> 01:15:25,920
Speaker 4: Parcells came in and said, we're going to cut that

1716
01:15:26,080 --> 01:15:27,800
Speaker 4: number down significantly, and they did.

1717
01:15:28,479 --> 01:15:29,559
Speaker 1: And how did they do it? Did they?

1718
01:15:29,600 --> 01:15:32,000
Speaker 4: I mean because that's he signed he signed some of

1719
01:15:32,080 --> 01:15:34,920
Speaker 4: his guys like he got. I think William Roberts came

1720
01:15:35,240 --> 01:15:37,680
Speaker 4: from the Giants as one of the gods. I think

1721
01:15:37,760 --> 01:15:43,840
Speaker 4: Bob cratch Yeah might have come cratche Yeah. I hate

1722
01:15:43,880 --> 01:15:45,679
Speaker 4: when you look at me like that. It's funny because

1723
01:15:45,680 --> 01:15:47,320
Speaker 4: it makes me feel so bad about myself.

1724
01:15:47,960 --> 01:15:49,240
Speaker 1: These names, and then all of a sudden, I can

1725
01:15:49,320 --> 01:15:50,200
Speaker 1: just like picture the name.

1726
01:15:50,439 --> 01:15:52,000
Speaker 4: Do you have this at me?

1727
01:15:52,160 --> 01:15:52,800
Speaker 8: Like what?

1728
01:15:53,120 --> 01:15:57,160
Speaker 4: That's my kind of a person, that's that kind of minutia.

1729
01:15:57,240 --> 01:15:59,760
Speaker 1: That's my memory because I went to that.

1730
01:16:00,560 --> 01:16:02,840
Speaker 4: That's when it all happened. For Like, I was always

1731
01:16:02,880 --> 01:16:05,920
Speaker 4: a Patriots fan, but when they drafted him number one overall,

1732
01:16:06,200 --> 01:16:09,880
Speaker 4: I said, I'm in. I'm a season ticket holder. Now

1733
01:16:10,120 --> 01:16:13,640
Speaker 4: I'm with you. Now, Pop, I'm in Wellntal And that

1734
01:16:13,840 --> 01:16:16,160
Speaker 4: was it. That was the That was the start for me,

1735
01:16:16,400 --> 01:16:18,120
Speaker 4: hopefully passion.

1736
01:16:17,920 --> 01:16:20,519
Speaker 1: People like Steven Scottsdale, who are sorry, no, this is

1737
01:16:20,520 --> 01:16:22,400
Speaker 1: the wrong email. I jumped to the wrong email. Sorry, Steve,

1738
01:16:22,400 --> 01:16:23,880
Speaker 1: I'm gonna read this one real quick. Though's a little

1739
01:16:23,880 --> 01:16:26,599
Speaker 1: inside baseball. But he said, you guys have two new sets.

1740
01:16:26,920 --> 01:16:28,559
Speaker 1: I've seen the one year in now and the other

1741
01:16:28,640 --> 01:16:30,839
Speaker 1: one with the table sort of look like the old setup.

1742
01:16:31,200 --> 01:16:33,000
Speaker 1: I got to say that today's set reminds me of

1743
01:16:33,040 --> 01:16:35,080
Speaker 1: sitting in the doctor's office trying to make conversations with

1744
01:16:35,160 --> 01:16:35,799
Speaker 1: other patients.

1745
01:16:35,840 --> 01:16:36,719
Speaker 3: I totally agree.

1746
01:16:36,800 --> 01:16:38,800
Speaker 4: It's just as uncomfortable as that.

1747
01:16:39,960 --> 01:16:40,000
Speaker 8: No.

1748
01:16:40,200 --> 01:16:42,920
Speaker 4: Yeah, so we do have in our beautiful studio, which

1749
01:16:43,000 --> 01:16:46,559
Speaker 4: I'm not no sarcasm at all. This behind us here,

1750
01:16:46,720 --> 01:16:52,080
Speaker 4: the great, great job that that our staff did transforming

1751
01:16:52,120 --> 01:16:54,760
Speaker 4: the state that it was badly needed because the old

1752
01:16:55,160 --> 01:16:57,760
Speaker 4: the old studio is in disrepair. Shall we say?

1753
01:16:57,800 --> 01:16:59,679
Speaker 1: I think he's just he just likes the blood. See

1754
01:16:59,720 --> 01:17:00,200
Speaker 1: picture I do.

1755
01:17:00,600 --> 01:17:04,400
Speaker 4: That's my favorite. iHeart Drew. You know you can see him.

1756
01:17:04,400 --> 01:17:07,280
Speaker 4: Actually he's so. But there Paul, learn how learn how

1757
01:17:07,320 --> 01:17:09,080
Speaker 4: things work on TV. It's a mirror image.

1758
01:17:09,280 --> 01:17:11,320
Speaker 1: There he is, there they are.

1759
01:17:11,560 --> 01:17:14,479
Speaker 4: So we do have two different sets though. We have

1760
01:17:14,640 --> 01:17:17,880
Speaker 4: this more casual podcast, look that Mike and I are

1761
01:17:18,160 --> 01:17:21,240
Speaker 4: coming at you from today, and then when we do

1762
01:17:21,400 --> 01:17:24,240
Speaker 4: like pre and post game, I think Evan and Alex

1763
01:17:24,320 --> 01:17:26,840
Speaker 4: to Catch twenty two, a little bit more of a

1764
01:17:27,200 --> 01:17:28,080
Speaker 4: desk and you know.

1765
01:17:28,880 --> 01:17:31,000
Speaker 3: Yeah a little bit more serious like the desk, Like

1766
01:17:31,080 --> 01:17:31,400
Speaker 3: the desk.

1767
01:17:31,479 --> 01:17:32,240
Speaker 4: I like the desk too.

1768
01:17:32,280 --> 01:17:32,760
Speaker 3: This is all right.

1769
01:17:32,760 --> 01:17:34,320
Speaker 4: I feel like that's why I don't eat anymore.

1770
01:17:34,600 --> 01:17:35,599
Speaker 1: But we got a new table too.

1771
01:17:35,760 --> 01:17:37,920
Speaker 4: Looks Paul's food hasn't been here for a while. If

1772
01:17:37,960 --> 01:17:40,599
Speaker 4: you guys haven't noticed because you can't eat on this thing.

1773
01:17:40,720 --> 01:17:45,160
Speaker 1: That's been the biggest benefit of PSI though, Man, Carson,

1774
01:17:46,200 --> 01:17:49,000
Speaker 1: Let's go to the TPX highline. Johnny in law. Are

1775
01:17:49,000 --> 01:17:51,800
Speaker 1: things off? Johnny l in my old la stomping around? Johnny,

1776
01:17:51,800 --> 01:17:52,519
Speaker 1: what's going on out there?

1777
01:17:53,680 --> 01:17:54,840
Speaker 13: Hey, guys, how's it going?

1778
01:17:55,160 --> 01:17:55,360
Speaker 7: Good?

1779
01:17:57,080 --> 01:17:57,320
Speaker 4: Good?

1780
01:17:57,439 --> 01:18:00,639
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm I'm up in the All States?

1781
01:18:01,120 --> 01:18:02,400
Speaker 4: Wow, beautiful?

1782
01:18:03,880 --> 01:18:05,960
Speaker 14: Yeah yeah, wish Uh.

1783
01:18:06,520 --> 01:18:09,599
Speaker 2: Next time you're here, let's watch a game at Sonny McLean's.

1784
01:18:10,439 --> 01:18:11,400
Speaker 1: I've been there many times.

1785
01:18:11,640 --> 01:18:12,000
Speaker 4: Be happy.

1786
01:18:12,000 --> 01:18:13,439
Speaker 1: And I probably won't be there for a game because

1787
01:18:13,439 --> 01:18:15,280
Speaker 1: I'll be here, but but I'm sure i'll be back

1788
01:18:15,320 --> 01:18:15,639
Speaker 1: there soon.

1789
01:18:17,040 --> 01:18:26,360
Speaker 2: Lots of good memory, PAULI, Uh, guys, I wanted to

1790
01:18:26,439 --> 01:18:29,240
Speaker 2: come to Evan's defense real quick.

1791
01:18:30,360 --> 01:18:33,240
Speaker 4: Okay, you know, Evan got.

1792
01:18:33,880 --> 01:18:38,760
Speaker 2: Flaughtered for his his comment and uh, you know, the

1793
01:18:38,840 --> 01:18:41,880
Speaker 2: whole the whole mutiny thing. First of all, I think

1794
01:18:41,960 --> 01:18:44,639
Speaker 2: Evan does an amazing job. And I'm not even one

1795
01:18:44,680 --> 01:18:47,960
Speaker 2: of the dorks who gets into the minutia he does.

1796
01:18:48,080 --> 01:18:50,439
Speaker 2: I just think overall, he's he's a really good writer,

1797
01:18:50,640 --> 01:18:54,000
Speaker 2: he's a very he cares about football a lot. I

1798
01:18:54,040 --> 01:18:55,120
Speaker 2: think he does a great job.

1799
01:18:57,360 --> 01:18:59,160
Speaker 13: I I.

1800
01:19:00,840 --> 01:19:02,640
Speaker 2: Didn't think it was that big of a deal what

1801
01:19:02,800 --> 01:19:07,599
Speaker 2: he said, it's sports, Like, who cares, you know, if

1802
01:19:07,680 --> 01:19:11,960
Speaker 2: the people, if the Patriots have an issue with what

1803
01:19:12,320 --> 01:19:17,960
Speaker 2: Lazarre said, my advice to them is stop stucking. You know,

1804
01:19:18,520 --> 01:19:22,160
Speaker 2: like you you've you've stunk for the better part of

1805
01:19:22,520 --> 01:19:25,639
Speaker 2: five or six years now, And if you want people

1806
01:19:25,720 --> 01:19:30,280
Speaker 2: to say great things about you, then start playing better football,

1807
01:19:30,960 --> 01:19:36,160
Speaker 2: Start hiring better coaches, start making better decisions, stop doing

1808
01:19:36,280 --> 01:19:40,640
Speaker 2: stupid things like making defensive coordinators your offensive coordinator the

1809
01:19:40,680 --> 01:19:43,600
Speaker 2: whole like you've stunk for a long time. If you

1810
01:19:43,640 --> 01:19:46,519
Speaker 2: don't want reporters saying there's a mutiny in the locker room,

1811
01:19:47,439 --> 01:19:50,160
Speaker 2: and if again, if Lazar said it, there's some truth

1812
01:19:50,240 --> 01:19:54,799
Speaker 2: to it, then be better. Do better. You've you've stunk,

1813
01:19:55,080 --> 01:19:55,640
Speaker 2: that's on you.

1814
01:19:58,520 --> 01:20:02,160
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, I would just say, obviously, there's a

1815
01:20:02,200 --> 01:20:04,599
Speaker 4: difference between the things that you're saying about the team's

1816
01:20:04,840 --> 01:20:09,439
Speaker 4: lack of success that's subjectively fact, like they haven't been

1817
01:20:09,600 --> 01:20:14,800
Speaker 4: successful since twenty one. Really, they haven't had a winning

1818
01:20:14,840 --> 01:20:18,479
Speaker 4: season since twenty one, right, thanks Shannye. But that's not

1819
01:20:18,600 --> 01:20:21,200
Speaker 4: the same as saying that the players no longer want

1820
01:20:21,240 --> 01:20:26,400
Speaker 4: to play for the coach so obviously Evan, you know, apologized.

1821
01:20:26,439 --> 01:20:29,680
Speaker 4: He apologized on the show yesterday and we talked about it.

1822
01:20:30,439 --> 01:20:33,120
Speaker 4: He's not here to sort of add any more to that,

1823
01:20:33,280 --> 01:20:35,760
Speaker 4: but I think we would all agree that, you know,

1824
01:20:36,840 --> 01:20:39,120
Speaker 4: we all are in the opinion business. We all say

1825
01:20:39,200 --> 01:20:42,640
Speaker 4: things sometimes and I've been in you know, probably not

1826
01:20:42,840 --> 01:20:46,920
Speaker 4: in that hot of water, but we've all said and

1827
01:20:47,040 --> 01:20:49,920
Speaker 4: done stupid things and sometimes you got to walk them back.

1828
01:20:49,960 --> 01:20:53,040
Speaker 4: And Evan walked it back, and you know, we moved on.

1829
01:20:53,240 --> 01:20:56,000
Speaker 4: But yeah, it was it was a little too far. Yeah,

1830
01:20:56,000 --> 01:20:58,600
Speaker 4: I would say, you know, but you know, we did it,

1831
01:20:59,280 --> 01:20:59,760
Speaker 4: we owned it.

1832
01:21:00,360 --> 01:21:01,080
Speaker 3: And we move on.

1833
01:21:01,280 --> 01:21:03,280
Speaker 1: I give Fred a lot of credit for those are

1834
01:21:03,360 --> 01:21:05,599
Speaker 1: so much speculation about the taking down of the video,

1835
01:21:05,680 --> 01:21:08,240
Speaker 1: and it's like, here it is Fred did it. Fred

1836
01:21:08,320 --> 01:21:10,280
Speaker 1: told you he did it, and you know the reasoning why,

1837
01:21:10,400 --> 01:21:12,320
Speaker 1: and that he you know, thought it was a mistake.

1838
01:21:12,439 --> 01:21:14,960
Speaker 1: So you know, we try to be transparent, but I

1839
01:21:15,000 --> 01:21:18,160
Speaker 1: think we realize we're under a microscope here. And I mean, look,

1840
01:21:18,200 --> 01:21:20,639
Speaker 1: I came from the outside and it's such a it's

1841
01:21:20,640 --> 01:21:22,639
Speaker 1: such a unique position to be and I'd say somebody

1842
01:21:22,680 --> 01:21:24,320
Speaker 1: at one point, I'm not sure who it was, it

1843
01:21:24,400 --> 01:21:26,760
Speaker 1: might have been Andy described it as the team sees

1844
01:21:26,800 --> 01:21:28,599
Speaker 1: you as the media, but the media sees you as

1845
01:21:28,640 --> 01:21:30,760
Speaker 1: the team, and so you're kind of in this nether

1846
01:21:30,880 --> 01:21:34,000
Speaker 1: world and you're you know, trying to be respectfully critical

1847
01:21:34,080 --> 01:21:36,120
Speaker 1: of the team, and you know, but you're also trying

1848
01:21:36,200 --> 01:21:38,920
Speaker 1: not to it's perfectly put, trying not to take a

1849
01:21:38,960 --> 01:21:41,439
Speaker 1: blow towards to you know, a specific player, you know,

1850
01:21:41,720 --> 01:21:43,680
Speaker 1: or I mean I find that's for me, is the

1851
01:21:44,160 --> 01:21:47,200
Speaker 1: easiest place to live is look at the third down defense.

1852
01:21:47,280 --> 01:21:50,519
Speaker 1: Don't look at player at at defensive end who got

1853
01:21:50,560 --> 01:21:52,800
Speaker 1: blown up seventeen times, you know, those kinds of things.

1854
01:21:53,760 --> 01:21:57,439
Speaker 4: But just I love that phrase that the team sees

1855
01:21:57,520 --> 01:21:59,640
Speaker 4: us as the media, and the media sees us as

1856
01:21:59,680 --> 01:22:03,320
Speaker 4: the team. The team is right, the media is wrong. Right, Like,

1857
01:22:03,439 --> 01:22:07,240
Speaker 4: we're not the team. We work for the team, but

1858
01:22:07,360 --> 01:22:10,240
Speaker 4: we're not part of the team. And there's a big difference.

1859
01:22:10,720 --> 01:22:15,040
Speaker 4: We're hired to analyze the team just like everybody else.

1860
01:22:15,120 --> 01:22:17,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, technically we work for Craft Sports and Entertainment. We

1861
01:22:17,400 --> 01:22:20,080
Speaker 1: are not you know, I'm not a Patriots employee. I

1862
01:22:20,120 --> 01:22:22,160
Speaker 1: don't I can't get into the locker room, you know,

1863
01:22:22,240 --> 01:22:24,639
Speaker 1: or into the you know, into their facility, all those

1864
01:22:24,720 --> 01:22:26,240
Speaker 1: kinds of things, So there is some nuance to it

1865
01:22:26,320 --> 01:22:27,920
Speaker 1: that seems lost on some people in.

1866
01:22:27,880 --> 01:22:30,600
Speaker 4: The like Listen, no one feels bad for us. We

1867
01:22:30,680 --> 01:22:33,360
Speaker 4: have a very fun job, and you know, I wouldn't

1868
01:22:33,400 --> 01:22:34,960
Speaker 4: I wouldn't have been here for twenty This is my

1869
01:22:35,080 --> 01:22:37,840
Speaker 4: twenty sixth season. You wouldn't stay at something, you know,

1870
01:22:37,960 --> 01:22:39,960
Speaker 4: that long if you didn't enjoy it. I enjoy it.

1871
01:22:40,439 --> 01:22:43,160
Speaker 4: And yes, there's a fine line that we have to

1872
01:22:43,240 --> 01:22:46,120
Speaker 4: walk at times, but you know, grow up.

1873
01:22:46,200 --> 01:22:47,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's part of your job, It's part of life.

1874
01:22:48,479 --> 01:22:50,880
Speaker 1: There are a lot harder jobs. They're a lot a

1875
01:22:50,920 --> 01:22:51,519
Speaker 1: lot harder jobs.

1876
01:22:51,960 --> 01:22:54,759
Speaker 4: I've said a million times at Beach working for a limit, Yeah, totally.

1877
01:22:54,840 --> 01:22:56,600
Speaker 4: And I love this show, believe me.

1878
01:22:57,640 --> 01:23:00,639
Speaker 1: See what Dan thinks done in Daytona Beach. Dan, what's

1879
01:23:00,680 --> 01:23:01,360
Speaker 1: the weather down there?

1880
01:23:01,439 --> 01:23:01,640
Speaker 13: For you?

1881
01:23:01,760 --> 01:23:01,960
Speaker 4: Yeah?

1882
01:23:03,560 --> 01:23:07,920
Speaker 6: They Hey, ho, was are going Paul and induced it's

1883
01:23:07,960 --> 01:23:12,000
Speaker 6: pretty crazy down here in Florida. It's uh, it's pouring

1884
01:23:12,120 --> 01:23:14,600
Speaker 6: right now at the current moment, but it's supposed to

1885
01:23:14,600 --> 01:23:20,160
Speaker 6: be getting worse tonight. I appreciate that Paul I was

1886
01:23:20,240 --> 01:23:21,880
Speaker 6: wondering to Fred and the rest of the crew on

1887
01:23:22,000 --> 01:23:25,160
Speaker 6: and Evan to get my take on this, but it's

1888
01:23:25,240 --> 01:23:27,920
Speaker 6: kind of going to be beaten a dead horse again.

1889
01:23:28,000 --> 01:23:31,840
Speaker 6: But I think I'm happy to see may play. That's

1890
01:23:32,120 --> 01:23:35,439
Speaker 6: that's awesome. But at this point, I mean it was getting,

1891
01:23:35,880 --> 01:23:38,519
Speaker 6: you know, pretty boring and just it was it just

1892
01:23:39,000 --> 01:23:42,599
Speaker 6: was unwatchable, you know, with the whole Uh, Jakobe Brissett

1893
01:23:42,680 --> 01:23:46,599
Speaker 6: and just Alex n Felton, I've been greative and I've

1894
01:23:46,640 --> 01:23:49,800
Speaker 6: been watching You've been watching your guys to show, Paul, uh,

1895
01:23:50,320 --> 01:23:54,640
Speaker 6: you know, Felgard Masks and ninety eight point five, and

1896
01:23:54,960 --> 01:23:57,400
Speaker 6: they were talking about how they think Alex Vnfelt needs

1897
01:23:57,439 --> 01:23:59,720
Speaker 6: to go, and I gotta agree with him. I think

1898
01:23:59,720 --> 01:24:03,320
Speaker 6: he's He's called a very vanilla. It almost looks like

1899
01:24:03,360 --> 01:24:05,920
Speaker 6: a preseason game every time I watched it. So I

1900
01:24:06,400 --> 01:24:10,680
Speaker 6: don't know, maybe Mayo needs to move on or I

1901
01:24:10,720 --> 01:24:12,160
Speaker 6: don't know what he needs to do, but I think

1902
01:24:12,200 --> 01:24:15,000
Speaker 6: that he needs to bring a I think a younger,

1903
01:24:15,479 --> 01:24:19,800
Speaker 6: more innovative like a Ben Johnson or Bobby Slower from

1904
01:24:19,840 --> 01:24:23,120
Speaker 6: the Sexton then too, not them, but somebody liked them

1905
01:24:23,200 --> 01:24:26,120
Speaker 6: that's young and innovative, that can run still run the

1906
01:24:26,200 --> 01:24:29,280
Speaker 6: wise zone scheme that they want to run, or maybe

1907
01:24:29,400 --> 01:24:32,040
Speaker 6: bring in Josh McDaniels back. I don't know. I think

1908
01:24:32,120 --> 01:24:34,479
Speaker 6: Josh would be perfect for May. To be honest, it'd

1909
01:24:34,479 --> 01:24:37,160
Speaker 6: be he can kind of run a similar offense to

1910
01:24:37,240 --> 01:24:39,720
Speaker 6: what Drake ran and didn't see, you know, a little

1911
01:24:39,760 --> 01:24:42,120
Speaker 6: bit more shotgun, and you know, it'd be more pressure

1912
01:24:42,160 --> 01:24:44,320
Speaker 6: on him, but he'd have to learn the system. But

1913
01:24:44,600 --> 01:24:48,120
Speaker 6: I think May smart enough to handle that. But none

1914
01:24:48,160 --> 01:24:50,720
Speaker 6: of that can happen unless they they go out. My

1915
01:24:50,840 --> 01:24:52,760
Speaker 6: last thing is unless they go out and they build

1916
01:24:52,760 --> 01:24:55,000
Speaker 6: an offensive line. I think as you look back in history,

1917
01:24:55,439 --> 01:24:57,600
Speaker 6: the main problem in the elephant in the room of

1918
01:24:57,600 --> 01:24:59,519
Speaker 6: the Patriots. They don't have a great office line. It's

1919
01:24:59,560 --> 01:25:04,719
Speaker 6: a and they'll never be good until they actually fully

1920
01:25:04,800 --> 01:25:07,280
Speaker 6: invest into the line. And I think what they need

1921
01:25:07,360 --> 01:25:10,040
Speaker 6: to do next year is use most of their draft

1922
01:25:10,120 --> 01:25:12,400
Speaker 6: capital to go after offensive line. I know that doesn't

1923
01:25:12,479 --> 01:25:15,040
Speaker 6: sound faun or entertaining the people, but you can't do

1924
01:25:15,120 --> 01:25:17,759
Speaker 6: anything on offense unless you have solid tackles and solid

1925
01:25:17,800 --> 01:25:20,559
Speaker 6: guards and a good center. I don't see David Andrews

1926
01:25:20,880 --> 01:25:24,040
Speaker 6: coming back anytime soon, and in my honest opinion, I

1927
01:25:24,120 --> 01:25:26,240
Speaker 6: think David Andrews is probably going to hang it up

1928
01:25:26,280 --> 01:25:30,080
Speaker 6: after this year. I've been watching this podcast and I

1929
01:25:30,280 --> 01:25:32,000
Speaker 6: just I don't. I don't know if he's gonna come back.

1930
01:25:32,600 --> 01:25:34,200
Speaker 6: So I think they need to go after a center.

1931
01:25:34,400 --> 01:25:36,040
Speaker 6: They need to go get guards, and they need to

1932
01:25:36,080 --> 01:25:36,679
Speaker 6: get tackles.

1933
01:25:38,040 --> 01:25:39,680
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean I would agree with that. I mean,

1934
01:25:39,720 --> 01:25:42,120
Speaker 4: I think that Andrews sounded like you want to at

1935
01:25:42,200 --> 01:25:44,519
Speaker 4: least give it a try. Yeah, but yeah, they need

1936
01:25:44,640 --> 01:25:47,679
Speaker 4: They need to fix their offensive line. There's there's no secret.

1937
01:25:47,760 --> 01:25:49,760
Speaker 4: And I think Dan like, to me, that's why I

1938
01:25:49,800 --> 01:25:52,519
Speaker 4: don't really focus as much on the coaching mic is

1939
01:25:53,360 --> 01:25:56,880
Speaker 4: because I feel like they're lacking in the personnel area

1940
01:25:57,520 --> 01:26:00,920
Speaker 4: on offense almost across the board. They have some I'm

1941
01:26:00,960 --> 01:26:03,200
Speaker 4: not telling you that every player can't play like they have.

1942
01:26:03,360 --> 01:26:06,920
Speaker 4: Some players, you know, you know, Douglas and Polk, you know,

1943
01:26:07,000 --> 01:26:08,920
Speaker 4: look like they can make some plays for you. I

1944
01:26:09,080 --> 01:26:11,040
Speaker 4: like the idea that going to be back maybe to

1945
01:26:11,120 --> 01:26:13,559
Speaker 4: look a little bit better, they needed an alpha. They

1946
01:26:13,600 --> 01:26:15,559
Speaker 4: need a big receiver, a big you know, I don't

1947
01:26:15,600 --> 01:26:18,479
Speaker 4: mean size wise, I just mean a big target that

1948
01:26:19,160 --> 01:26:23,400
Speaker 4: will occupy the other team's focus and be able to

1949
01:26:23,439 --> 01:26:27,200
Speaker 4: make plays because he's better, you know, And they got

1950
01:26:27,280 --> 01:26:29,719
Speaker 4: to fix the offensive line obviously outside speed.

1951
01:26:29,760 --> 01:26:31,439
Speaker 1: To me is it's just that's what they're crying for

1952
01:26:31,760 --> 01:26:33,600
Speaker 1: and you know, you had that element. I think it

1953
01:26:33,760 --> 01:26:36,120
Speaker 1: maybe makes some of those other guys better. But I

1954
01:26:36,240 --> 01:26:38,200
Speaker 1: agree with his take on Andrews though, based on what

1955
01:26:38,280 --> 01:26:40,120
Speaker 1: he said, I mean, it sounds dicey.

1956
01:26:40,360 --> 01:26:42,479
Speaker 4: If I don't think it's I don't think it's any

1957
01:26:42,720 --> 01:26:44,760
Speaker 4: I think, how did he put it? Like doing it

1958
01:26:44,880 --> 01:26:47,400
Speaker 4: this way it gives me the best chance, the chance

1959
01:26:47,800 --> 01:26:49,599
Speaker 4: to be able to continue my career. But I think

1960
01:26:49,680 --> 01:26:53,960
Speaker 4: that's his like desire just to come back for another year.

1961
01:26:54,080 --> 01:26:57,920
Speaker 1: And then they just signed to the Hainsworth Sincere Hainesworth.

1962
01:26:58,120 --> 01:26:59,960
Speaker 4: Just gonna say it's a great name.

1963
01:27:00,080 --> 01:27:03,479
Speaker 1: Sincere excuse me, geez made me cough, but not not

1964
01:27:03,600 --> 01:27:06,600
Speaker 1: related to Albert hands or I'm kissing. But you know

1965
01:27:06,680 --> 01:27:08,479
Speaker 1: they have the guy in the practice squad as well,

1966
01:27:08,560 --> 01:27:09,960
Speaker 1: So I mean they've got a couple of centers. I

1967
01:27:09,960 --> 01:27:12,080
Speaker 1: mean it seems like it's it's on their mind. That's

1968
01:27:12,080 --> 01:27:14,200
Speaker 1: a really important position too. And you know it made

1969
01:27:14,240 --> 01:27:16,160
Speaker 1: me think too, we're talking about going back to Josh.

1970
01:27:16,200 --> 01:27:18,439
Speaker 1: I mean that's a huge jump. Josh wants to put

1971
01:27:18,439 --> 01:27:21,439
Speaker 1: it all in the quarterback. He wants a quarterback to everything.

1972
01:27:21,720 --> 01:27:24,880
Speaker 1: I'm just saying from a schematic standpoint, that's a heavy lift.

1973
01:27:24,920 --> 01:27:27,240
Speaker 1: But by the same token, there's a lot more on

1974
01:27:27,320 --> 01:27:30,559
Speaker 1: the center in this offense. So that's a very important

1975
01:27:30,600 --> 01:27:33,120
Speaker 1: position too, So they need to figure that out long term.

1976
01:27:33,160 --> 01:27:35,600
Speaker 1: I mean, I think in a perfect world, you're I

1977
01:27:35,600 --> 01:27:37,840
Speaker 1: don't know if Kiden Wallace can come back, but Kiden

1978
01:27:37,880 --> 01:27:40,760
Speaker 1: Wallace and when you and one of these guys, whether

1979
01:27:40,840 --> 01:27:44,240
Speaker 1: it's City so Leyden Robinson, even Cold strange, if one

1980
01:27:44,280 --> 01:27:46,400
Speaker 1: of those guys can be an okay left card, you know,

1981
01:27:46,520 --> 01:27:49,240
Speaker 1: maybe it's not we have to dedicate five draft picks

1982
01:27:49,280 --> 01:27:51,400
Speaker 1: to because you've got needs on defense too. You're gonna

1983
01:27:51,400 --> 01:27:53,200
Speaker 1: have needs on that side of the ball. I hate

1984
01:27:53,240 --> 01:27:55,639
Speaker 1: to tell everybody, but you're you're gonna have to figure

1985
01:27:55,640 --> 01:27:57,479
Speaker 1: out the edge I mean, and I mean those and

1986
01:27:57,520 --> 01:27:59,400
Speaker 1: those are that, you know, the sides of the defense

1987
01:28:00,080 --> 01:28:02,760
Speaker 1: I mean and throw in peppers. We don't know what

1988
01:28:02,840 --> 01:28:04,439
Speaker 1: his future could be. I mean, he might be done,

1989
01:28:04,600 --> 01:28:07,320
Speaker 1: like we might have to, you know, have another starting safety,

1990
01:28:07,360 --> 01:28:09,840
Speaker 1: depending on how you feel about Martine Apu as well.

1991
01:28:10,000 --> 01:28:12,280
Speaker 1: So you know, there's there's a lot, a lot of questions,

1992
01:28:12,320 --> 01:28:14,320
Speaker 1: but hopefully over these last twelve games we can get

1993
01:28:14,640 --> 01:28:16,160
Speaker 1: you know, at least a couple guys to step up

1994
01:28:16,160 --> 01:28:18,040
Speaker 1: and say, you know, look, I feel really good about it.

1995
01:28:18,040 --> 01:28:20,000
Speaker 1: I mean, this is probably the most unlikely one. Caden

1996
01:28:20,000 --> 01:28:21,599
Speaker 1: Wallace at right tackle. I don't even know if he's

1997
01:28:21,600 --> 01:28:23,680
Speaker 1: going to be back, but you know, just taking a

1998
01:28:23,760 --> 01:28:26,519
Speaker 1: couple things off the plate of we have to check

1999
01:28:26,560 --> 01:28:28,240
Speaker 1: this Bux and this bucks and this bus, you know,

2000
01:28:28,320 --> 01:28:30,519
Speaker 1: feel good about a couple things. I mean, you mentioned

2001
01:28:30,560 --> 01:28:33,680
Speaker 1: Polkin and and Pop Like I like those guys. I mean,

2002
01:28:33,720 --> 01:28:35,360
Speaker 1: I don't think alone they're able to do it. They're

2003
01:28:35,360 --> 01:28:37,599
Speaker 1: not enough for sure, but like I said, at the top,

2004
01:28:37,680 --> 01:28:40,400
Speaker 1: once you get going, maybe they're there. They look a

2005
01:28:40,439 --> 01:28:41,160
Speaker 1: little bit better with that.

2006
01:28:41,479 --> 01:28:43,760
Speaker 4: I had a guy, you know, if you could add

2007
01:28:43,960 --> 01:28:47,240
Speaker 4: you know, a free agent addition, one of the top

2008
01:28:47,320 --> 01:28:50,360
Speaker 4: flight guys, you know, like they tried with Ayuk. You know,

2009
01:28:50,560 --> 01:28:53,080
Speaker 4: I think those other guys would look a little bit better. Yeah,

2010
01:28:53,360 --> 01:28:53,640
Speaker 4: that's what.

2011
01:28:53,680 --> 01:28:55,920
Speaker 1: You're hoping for, drawing some attention away from them.

2012
01:28:56,000 --> 01:28:57,760
Speaker 4: And if it's T Higgins or someone I know, like

2013
01:28:57,880 --> 01:29:01,160
Speaker 4: you know, Matt, you know, our our home for pre

2014
01:29:01,280 --> 01:29:03,720
Speaker 4: and post game. He doesn't like T Higgins as much

2015
01:29:03,760 --> 01:29:07,080
Speaker 4: as I do, but I kind of get the impression

2016
01:29:07,120 --> 01:29:08,760
Speaker 4: from listening to Matt a little bit the last few

2017
01:29:08,880 --> 01:29:11,120
Speaker 4: and don't really like a whole lot, Like, you know,

2018
01:29:11,240 --> 01:29:14,519
Speaker 4: no one's really any good, you know, so I just

2019
01:29:14,600 --> 01:29:17,559
Speaker 4: feel like they're going to have to figure out somebody

2020
01:29:18,840 --> 01:29:21,280
Speaker 4: that they think is worthy of that and add him

2021
01:29:21,280 --> 01:29:24,400
Speaker 4: to the list, because it can't be these are the

2022
01:29:24,520 --> 01:29:27,240
Speaker 4: best guys you have. That's not good enough. Maybe it's

2023
01:29:27,479 --> 01:29:29,120
Speaker 4: it's not fair to them, it's not fair to to

2024
01:29:29,200 --> 01:29:33,559
Speaker 4: Mario Douglas that, you know, sort of a smaller slot

2025
01:29:33,640 --> 01:29:35,320
Speaker 4: receiver is the best you have right now.

2026
01:29:35,680 --> 01:29:37,960
Speaker 1: If you need more than that, yeah, look at Jahim

2027
01:29:38,040 --> 01:29:40,920
Speaker 1: Bell too. I mean I think Austin Hooper has been okay, well,

2028
01:29:41,840 --> 01:29:43,719
Speaker 1: you know a little more athleticism. I mean, you always

2029
01:29:43,720 --> 01:29:46,880
Speaker 1: Paul bring up David Nijoku from Cleveland and how successful

2030
01:29:46,920 --> 01:29:48,880
Speaker 1: he was in this offense. To really have, you know,

2031
01:29:49,320 --> 01:29:51,120
Speaker 1: no disrespect to Hunter Henry. I mean, I think he's

2032
01:29:51,160 --> 01:29:53,760
Speaker 1: a reliable, you know, steady kind of a guy, but

2033
01:29:53,800 --> 01:29:56,640
Speaker 1: I don't think he's really like a game changer, you know,

2034
01:29:56,760 --> 01:29:59,160
Speaker 1: real problem in the middle of the field. And I'm

2035
01:29:59,200 --> 01:30:01,120
Speaker 1: intrigued by Jahim. We didn't see a lot of him

2036
01:30:01,160 --> 01:30:03,360
Speaker 1: this summer, but I did see him run pretty well

2037
01:30:03,439 --> 01:30:05,560
Speaker 1: and That's like one thing that I feel if you

2038
01:30:05,680 --> 01:30:07,280
Speaker 1: really got a you know, a tight end that can

2039
01:30:07,360 --> 01:30:08,760
Speaker 1: threat and the seam a little bit more. I think,

2040
01:30:08,800 --> 01:30:11,120
Speaker 1: you know, Hunter, Henry, great, find the soft spot in

2041
01:30:11,160 --> 01:30:13,840
Speaker 1: the zone first down, you know, not a run after

2042
01:30:14,000 --> 01:30:17,479
Speaker 1: threat or run after your catch threat though, but you're.

2043
01:30:17,320 --> 01:30:19,280
Speaker 4: Gonna have these guys back the hole. That's another one

2044
01:30:19,439 --> 01:30:20,080
Speaker 4: put on the list.

2045
01:30:20,280 --> 01:30:21,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, tight end.

2046
01:30:21,360 --> 01:30:25,439
Speaker 4: Yeah, but like this holes, like even if Bell like

2047
01:30:25,600 --> 01:30:29,000
Speaker 4: panned out to be something like, you still need tight ends.

2048
01:30:29,280 --> 01:30:31,519
Speaker 4: How long do you think Henry and Hooper are going

2049
01:30:31,560 --> 01:30:31,680
Speaker 4: to be.

2050
01:30:31,720 --> 01:30:33,200
Speaker 1: I mean, Hope's just a one year deal too, so

2051
01:30:33,200 --> 01:30:34,679
Speaker 1: I mean he's he's going to be gone. But maybe

2052
01:30:34,760 --> 01:30:37,400
Speaker 1: that opens up the opportunity for Bell next year. And

2053
01:30:37,800 --> 01:30:40,479
Speaker 1: I mean it sure seems like this regime is very

2054
01:30:40,560 --> 01:30:43,640
Speaker 1: invested in playing their draft picks. Whereas I don't know,

2055
01:30:43,920 --> 01:30:46,000
Speaker 1: Bill would always say, once you get here, everybody's here.

2056
01:30:46,000 --> 01:30:47,640
Speaker 1: It doesn't matter where you were drafted, how big your

2057
01:30:47,720 --> 01:30:51,080
Speaker 1: contract is. But I think that this regime maybe takes

2058
01:30:51,160 --> 01:30:54,639
Speaker 1: just a little bit more, like it puts a little

2059
01:30:54,640 --> 01:30:56,240
Speaker 1: bit more on the guys that they draft and said, look,

2060
01:30:56,240 --> 01:30:58,920
Speaker 1: even if these guys maybe don't burst out of the

2061
01:30:58,960 --> 01:31:00,720
Speaker 1: gate on fire. We need to get them snaps, we

2062
01:31:00,800 --> 01:31:02,080
Speaker 1: need to get them involved. We need to know what

2063
01:31:02,120 --> 01:31:04,320
Speaker 1: they can do, like a Marcel's Dial for example, who

2064
01:31:04,840 --> 01:31:06,680
Speaker 1: didn't think blew up anything. You know, was kind of

2065
01:31:07,200 --> 01:31:09,920
Speaker 1: marginally involved on defense this winter but in the summer,

2066
01:31:09,960 --> 01:31:11,400
Speaker 1: but was able to get in there and made the

2067
01:31:11,479 --> 01:31:13,560
Speaker 1: team and you know now is playing special teams. But

2068
01:31:14,000 --> 01:31:16,280
Speaker 1: you know, did he really is he really better than

2069
01:31:16,320 --> 01:31:18,600
Speaker 1: some of those others. I don't know how they go.

2070
01:31:18,800 --> 01:31:20,760
Speaker 4: I would counter with that if it weren't so, you know,

2071
01:31:20,960 --> 01:31:23,599
Speaker 4: we got other things on it, you know, like's Javon

2072
01:31:23,680 --> 01:31:28,320
Speaker 4: Baker jahem bell actively yeah, right right, that's what Bill

2073
01:31:28,360 --> 01:31:28,640
Speaker 4: would do.

2074
01:31:28,840 --> 01:31:31,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's true. Javon Baker is another one though, like

2075
01:31:31,840 --> 01:31:34,080
Speaker 1: maybe it starts to click for him in the offseason

2076
01:31:34,120 --> 01:31:36,160
Speaker 1: and you know he starts to come back and you know.

2077
01:31:36,240 --> 01:31:37,400
Speaker 4: Offers some some juice.

2078
01:31:38,439 --> 01:31:40,680
Speaker 1: But but first we've got to read Paul that I'm

2079
01:31:40,680 --> 01:31:42,880
Speaker 1: going to do right now. For Bob's I had to

2080
01:31:42,920 --> 01:31:46,720
Speaker 1: get figure out this first part. The long Falladay weekend, Oh,

2081
01:31:46,840 --> 01:31:48,679
Speaker 1: I think that's what we're calling it now is almost

2082
01:31:48,800 --> 01:31:50,880
Speaker 1: here and you can get ready for an epic Pats

2083
01:31:50,960 --> 01:31:54,000
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2084
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2085
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2086
01:32:02,160 --> 01:32:04,360
Speaker 1: to dream about the next game. When you shop the

2087
01:32:04,439 --> 01:32:06,680
Speaker 1: Bob's Dare to Compare Challenge, you'll find everything you need

2088
01:32:06,960 --> 01:32:09,760
Speaker 1: and all for way less than the competition. So stop

2089
01:32:09,840 --> 01:32:11,439
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2090
01:32:11,640 --> 01:32:14,439
Speaker 1: When you Dare to Compare with Bob's Discount Furniture, the

2091
01:32:14,479 --> 01:32:18,040
Speaker 1: official furniture store of the New England Patriots. And we're

2092
01:32:18,080 --> 01:32:20,280
Speaker 1: expecting Evan. We'll be back from practice here. And I

2093
01:32:20,280 --> 01:32:22,160
Speaker 1: don't know if there's a new song. Somebody was teasing

2094
01:32:22,200 --> 01:32:25,560
Speaker 1: maybe that's a locker room one, but yeah, oh is

2095
01:32:25,600 --> 01:32:28,160
Speaker 1: it really did? Did did Jill come through a song?

2096
01:32:28,800 --> 01:32:28,920
Speaker 8: Oh?

2097
01:32:28,960 --> 01:32:29,639
Speaker 1: It's a real song?

2098
01:32:29,680 --> 01:32:29,960
Speaker 7: All right?

2099
01:32:30,000 --> 01:32:32,599
Speaker 1: Great, that's that's nice. I'm I'm excited, but I won't

2100
01:32:32,640 --> 01:32:33,640
Speaker 1: be able to hear it today. Is I didn't go

2101
01:32:33,640 --> 01:32:35,800
Speaker 1: to locker right? All right? Good, good, fair enough.

2102
01:32:35,840 --> 01:32:36,760
Speaker 4: I'm not jealous at all.

2103
01:32:37,160 --> 01:32:37,880
Speaker 1: You got no songs?

2104
01:32:37,960 --> 01:32:41,519
Speaker 4: Pot, I don't you get a song? I don't need

2105
01:32:41,560 --> 01:32:43,439
Speaker 4: a get them in ai.

2106
01:32:43,560 --> 01:32:45,559
Speaker 1: I need a car put in you.

2107
01:32:45,680 --> 01:32:47,560
Speaker 4: Work out a car deal for me because.

2108
01:32:47,479 --> 01:32:50,360
Speaker 1: Put in things about diet, PEPSI, car inspection.

2109
01:32:50,520 --> 01:32:54,000
Speaker 4: No, I just need a car. I don't need any song.

2110
01:32:54,000 --> 01:32:59,479
Speaker 1: Northeastern sports in general, anything else. Those are your biggest hits.

2111
01:33:00,760 --> 01:33:02,160
Speaker 4: This is where you said, didn't you go to be you?

2112
01:33:03,160 --> 01:33:04,000
Speaker 1: I won't bring that up.

2113
01:33:04,520 --> 01:33:07,840
Speaker 4: That's beautiful. By the way, so my son tells me.

2114
01:33:08,840 --> 01:33:11,880
Speaker 1: We're going around the world to Greece and Alex Hay else.

2115
01:33:13,520 --> 01:33:16,960
Speaker 15: Hey, guys, can hear me? How's it going?

2116
01:33:18,160 --> 01:33:18,519
Speaker 3: All right?

2117
01:33:18,800 --> 01:33:19,040
Speaker 8: Yeah?

2118
01:33:19,400 --> 01:33:22,160
Speaker 4: Okay, fine, what's your question?

2119
01:33:24,760 --> 01:33:27,840
Speaker 15: I had a quick question. I just wanted to get

2120
01:33:27,880 --> 01:33:30,760
Speaker 15: your guys' take on on something other than Drake May.

2121
01:33:31,000 --> 01:33:34,439
Speaker 15: I know the focus is on May obviously. You know

2122
01:33:34,640 --> 01:33:36,439
Speaker 15: May is gonna grow there, He's gonna play. He's either

2123
01:33:36,520 --> 01:33:38,560
Speaker 15: going to be good or you know, he's going to

2124
01:33:38,600 --> 01:33:42,040
Speaker 15: struggle in the beginning. My my concern, honestly the last

2125
01:33:42,080 --> 01:33:44,200
Speaker 15: few games has been the coaching a little bit. And

2126
01:33:44,600 --> 01:33:46,720
Speaker 15: I know it's in new regime and I know this

2127
01:33:46,880 --> 01:33:50,599
Speaker 15: roster isn't up to part, but there's just a lot

2128
01:33:50,640 --> 01:33:53,639
Speaker 15: of decision making in games, a lot of this coaching

2129
01:33:53,760 --> 01:33:56,200
Speaker 15: problems I've seen. And my question to you guys is

2130
01:33:56,320 --> 01:34:00,760
Speaker 15: do you view the coaching separately from Drake May's performance? So,

2131
01:34:01,240 --> 01:34:03,519
Speaker 15: regardless of how they plays, are you still going to

2132
01:34:03,560 --> 01:34:05,639
Speaker 15: be looking at this coaching stass and giving them, giving

2133
01:34:05,680 --> 01:34:07,920
Speaker 15: them a pass and going, you know, it's year one,

2134
01:34:08,520 --> 01:34:10,160
Speaker 15: or are you guys going to be saying if May

2135
01:34:10,280 --> 01:34:13,040
Speaker 15: plays well or bad kind of irregardless, you know that

2136
01:34:13,120 --> 01:34:15,840
Speaker 15: they didn't perform well this year. So I just wanted

2137
01:34:15,880 --> 01:34:17,280
Speaker 15: to get your guys' take on that and how you

2138
01:34:17,400 --> 01:34:19,680
Speaker 15: view those two different entities that sort of thing.

2139
01:34:21,280 --> 01:34:23,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's good question. It's a really good question. I mean,

2140
01:34:23,120 --> 01:34:25,120
Speaker 1: I think it relates into what you know, we're kind

2141
01:34:25,120 --> 01:34:27,400
Speaker 1: of saying, like what's reasonable with May and how does

2142
01:34:27,439 --> 01:34:29,200
Speaker 1: it reflect on the coaching staff? And I would agree

2143
01:34:29,240 --> 01:34:32,440
Speaker 1: with the point. I think some of the stuff that situationally,

2144
01:34:32,640 --> 01:34:35,240
Speaker 1: play calling, you know, those kind of things need to

2145
01:34:35,320 --> 01:34:37,800
Speaker 1: get better. And I think willing to offer a little

2146
01:34:37,800 --> 01:34:39,479
Speaker 1: bit of you know, grace at the at the beginning

2147
01:34:39,520 --> 01:34:41,840
Speaker 1: stages for a whole new coaching staff, a lot of guys,

2148
01:34:41,840 --> 01:34:44,240
Speaker 1: a lot of different pieces from different areas kind of

2149
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Speaker 1: all brought together. But I think it's a it's an

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Speaker 1: excellent point. There's more than just May throwing a.

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Speaker 4: Couple of deep balls, and that's say. But I agree

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Speaker 4: with you, Mike, and I would say that I don't

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01:34:54,360 --> 01:34:58,120
Speaker 4: think that we're giving the coaches a pass because they're

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01:34:58,160 --> 01:35:00,400
Speaker 4: in their first year. I think, you know, when you

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01:35:00,479 --> 01:35:03,080
Speaker 4: sort of see some mistakes, you can say, well, yeah,

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01:35:03,120 --> 01:35:05,760
Speaker 4: those are mistakes. You know, first time coach, he's going

2157
01:35:05,840 --> 01:35:07,559
Speaker 4: to learn from them. But when you see the same

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01:35:07,640 --> 01:35:09,760
Speaker 4: mistakes get repeated a couple of weeks later, like the

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01:35:10,520 --> 01:35:12,280
Speaker 4: the sequence at the end of the half that we

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01:35:12,400 --> 01:35:16,960
Speaker 4: talked about, that's cause for concern, you know. And I'm

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01:35:17,000 --> 01:35:21,479
Speaker 4: not taking it off the coaches because they don't have

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01:35:21,680 --> 01:35:24,679
Speaker 4: what I would consider, you know, elite talent across the board.

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01:35:25,280 --> 01:35:28,200
Speaker 4: But I'm also not putting it all on, you know,

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01:35:28,280 --> 01:35:30,320
Speaker 4: the players if I don't think they're always being put

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01:35:30,360 --> 01:35:32,640
Speaker 4: in the right positions to succeed. So it's one of

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01:35:32,680 --> 01:35:35,120
Speaker 4: those kind of feel things like I don't think they

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01:35:35,160 --> 01:35:37,559
Speaker 4: were put in the best particular spot at the end

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Speaker 4: of the first half against Seattle and against Miami, Like

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01:35:41,720 --> 01:35:44,040
Speaker 4: I think that was a coaching issue. I don't blame

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Speaker 4: the coaches for the fact that they can't figure out

2171
01:35:46,680 --> 01:35:48,639
Speaker 4: a way to score more points than they have because

2172
01:35:48,640 --> 01:35:51,000
Speaker 4: I think that's a player issue more than the play

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01:35:51,120 --> 01:35:53,400
Speaker 4: calling that has been getting so much of the heat

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01:35:53,479 --> 01:35:56,559
Speaker 4: right now. So it's hard, but it is a good

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01:35:56,640 --> 01:35:59,719
Speaker 4: question that Alex brings up. It's I think everything should

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01:35:59,720 --> 01:36:01,920
Speaker 4: be a fit evaluated, Like you should be able to

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Speaker 4: look at it and say, well, you know what, I thought,

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01:36:03,200 --> 01:36:05,320
Speaker 4: they had a really good game plan this week. You know,

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Speaker 4: it worked really well early in the game. The other

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01:36:07,200 --> 01:36:09,240
Speaker 4: team sort of figured it out, adjusted and they were

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01:36:09,280 --> 01:36:10,160
Speaker 4: able to shut you down.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you should be able to see that. Yeah, And

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Speaker 1: I mean at her point you said this before of

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01:36:15,400 --> 01:36:18,400
Speaker 1: you brought up past regime, would be able to adjust,

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01:36:18,520 --> 01:36:20,240
Speaker 1: you know, or you'd I like, And it's funny when

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01:36:20,240 --> 01:36:22,040
Speaker 1: you brought it up too, because it's so struck home

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01:36:22,120 --> 01:36:23,800
Speaker 1: for me. It was kind of like one of my

2188
01:36:23,880 --> 01:36:25,760
Speaker 1: credos when I was a blogger of just like, don't

2189
01:36:25,760 --> 01:36:28,439
Speaker 1: overreact to the first drift. Don't overreact to it good

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01:36:28,520 --> 01:36:31,519
Speaker 1: or bad. Like, don't overreact because even if they picked

2191
01:36:31,520 --> 01:36:32,880
Speaker 1: their way down the field and you know, have a

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01:36:32,960 --> 01:36:34,960
Speaker 1: nice drive score, you know, hopefully a touchdown off in

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01:36:35,000 --> 01:36:37,639
Speaker 1: the Patriots, would you know, let them go eighty eighty

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01:36:37,720 --> 01:36:39,680
Speaker 1: yards and then they'd stop them and force a field goal,

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01:36:39,760 --> 01:36:42,720
Speaker 1: But you know, what are those adjustments that they were

2196
01:36:42,720 --> 01:36:44,800
Speaker 1: able to make in game and you know now we're

2197
01:36:44,800 --> 01:36:47,880
Speaker 1: seeing something different. I'd also just point out stuff like

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01:36:48,160 --> 01:36:51,840
Speaker 1: twelve men on the field. Yeah, you know, sideline communication

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01:36:52,080 --> 01:36:53,920
Speaker 1: kind of stuff, which I don't think has been a

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01:36:54,000 --> 01:36:56,280
Speaker 1: huge problem like this early part. But I mean last

2201
01:36:56,360 --> 01:36:57,160
Speaker 1: year was a problem too.

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Speaker 4: Oh, no problem the last couple of years ago. Check

2203
01:37:00,560 --> 01:37:03,880
Speaker 4: the substitutions on defense were a huge problem. Hasn't really

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01:37:03,920 --> 01:37:05,880
Speaker 4: been a problem, Yeah, I don't think so fun that

2205
01:37:05,960 --> 01:37:09,000
Speaker 4: was a special team's one. Yeah, it's a special teams issue,

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01:37:09,680 --> 01:37:11,559
Speaker 4: but I don't think that's been as big a problem

2207
01:37:11,640 --> 01:37:13,800
Speaker 4: in the five games as it was like the last

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01:37:13,840 --> 01:37:16,599
Speaker 4: two years as an example. So yeah, all those kinds

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Speaker 4: of things we're trying to watch and evaluate, you get

2210
01:37:19,720 --> 01:37:20,360
Speaker 4: to learn from them.

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01:37:20,600 --> 01:37:23,600
Speaker 1: Do you know? Quite a few emails here that I appreciate,

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01:37:24,080 --> 01:37:27,240
Speaker 1: which is like from Wisconsin just saying I've noticed that

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01:37:27,320 --> 01:37:29,000
Speaker 1: a lot of people who are afraid of breaking may

2214
01:37:29,360 --> 01:37:31,160
Speaker 1: are the same people who thought Mac was going to

2215
01:37:31,240 --> 01:37:34,920
Speaker 1: be great, which is say they aren't ball knowers. Let's

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01:37:35,000 --> 01:37:39,200
Speaker 1: go let the drake may excuse me rap begin, but

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01:37:39,280 --> 01:37:41,200
Speaker 1: there are a lot of emails that I think echoing

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01:37:41,240 --> 01:37:43,160
Speaker 1: what we talked of, like people are just afraid he's

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01:37:43,160 --> 01:37:45,360
Speaker 1: gonna get hurt, Like they're afraid to play him against

2220
01:37:45,360 --> 01:37:48,000
Speaker 1: the defense that you think has an overwhelming amount of

2221
01:37:48,000 --> 01:37:49,719
Speaker 1: pass rush that they're not going to be able to start.

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01:37:49,720 --> 01:37:53,200
Speaker 4: I would just say to those people, like I'm always

2223
01:37:53,360 --> 01:37:55,240
Speaker 4: concerned that players are going to get hurt, But like,

2224
01:37:56,920 --> 01:37:59,120
Speaker 4: what's the It's not the end of the world if

2225
01:37:59,120 --> 01:38:02,599
Speaker 4: a guy gets hurt. Yeah, it's just not like if

2226
01:38:02,640 --> 01:38:05,160
Speaker 4: you have Super Bowl aspirations and your quarterback gets hurt,

2227
01:38:05,240 --> 01:38:09,800
Speaker 4: that's that's way different. But I just don't think that

2228
01:38:09,920 --> 01:38:14,200
Speaker 4: that necessarily ends the Drake May era if he plays,

2229
01:38:14,520 --> 01:38:18,360
Speaker 4: even if he got hurt Sunday, Like that would suck

2230
01:38:18,680 --> 01:38:21,320
Speaker 4: because it would suck because we don't get a chance

2231
01:38:21,439 --> 01:38:24,679
Speaker 4: to watch him. But I don't think that it ends

2232
01:38:24,800 --> 01:38:29,000
Speaker 4: the career of Drake May. Like he can rehab and

2233
01:38:29,080 --> 01:38:31,360
Speaker 4: come back next year and be the starter and we'll

2234
01:38:31,520 --> 01:38:32,160
Speaker 4: figure it out.

2235
01:38:32,280 --> 01:38:32,600
Speaker 6: But like.

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01:38:34,640 --> 01:38:36,360
Speaker 4: You can just not play him and not get any

2237
01:38:36,400 --> 01:38:38,760
Speaker 4: development too, what's the like Like that to me is

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01:38:38,840 --> 01:38:42,000
Speaker 4: the difference, Like what so if he if he plays

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01:38:42,000 --> 01:38:43,439
Speaker 4: and gets hurt and he doesn't play the rest of

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Speaker 4: the way, what's the difference if he doesn't play the

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01:38:45,520 --> 01:38:51,080
Speaker 4: rest of the way like other than you know, easy

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01:38:51,120 --> 01:38:53,280
Speaker 4: for me to say, other than the pain that Drake

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01:38:53,360 --> 01:38:56,519
Speaker 4: may is suffering from, or whatever the injury happens to be.

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01:38:56,920 --> 01:38:59,120
Speaker 4: I just like I said, I put it out there.

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Speaker 4: Can someone give me an example of a career ending

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01:39:01,400 --> 01:39:03,559
Speaker 4: injury on a quarterback who played too soon?

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01:39:03,720 --> 01:39:06,800
Speaker 1: You know, David from Madrid echoes that a little bit.

2248
01:39:07,600 --> 01:39:10,360
Speaker 1: The taking scare getting hurt versus good team doesn't make sense.

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01:39:10,560 --> 01:39:13,280
Speaker 1: He can equally get hurt against a bad defense. Last Sunday,

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Speaker 1: the Dolphins didn't have any top brass rushers and Levertt

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01:39:16,080 --> 01:39:18,360
Speaker 1: somehow gave up ten pressures. You just have to play

2252
01:39:18,400 --> 01:39:20,800
Speaker 1: the kid and roll the dice. Even the best old

2253
01:39:20,800 --> 01:39:23,240
Speaker 1: lines give up hits every week. I mean I've set

2254
01:39:23,280 --> 01:39:25,560
Speaker 1: up before I point to eight where no Brady. I

2255
01:39:25,640 --> 01:39:29,920
Speaker 1: mean what first quarter of the game. I mean Bernard

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01:39:29,960 --> 01:39:32,320
Speaker 1: Pollard dives into his knee and you know it's all

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01:39:32,439 --> 01:39:34,080
Speaker 1: It's all over for that year. So it can it

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01:39:34,120 --> 01:39:36,760
Speaker 1: can happen even to those kind of teams too. I

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01:39:36,880 --> 01:39:39,360
Speaker 1: agree though, and I just I just hope he can

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01:39:39,400 --> 01:39:42,720
Speaker 1: do enough to kind of stem the tide because been

2261
01:39:42,760 --> 01:39:44,280
Speaker 1: through a lot. We've been through a lot the last

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01:39:44,320 --> 01:39:47,800
Speaker 1: couple of years. We changed everything this offseason, you know,

2263
01:39:47,920 --> 01:39:49,880
Speaker 1: and you had some good energy going through camp, and

2264
01:39:50,320 --> 01:39:52,280
Speaker 1: you know that's more the energy the unknown, because you

2265
01:39:52,400 --> 01:39:55,320
Speaker 1: just haven't really seen good or bad yet. But then

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01:39:55,360 --> 01:39:58,479
Speaker 1: it's like injuries and you know, off the field stuff,

2267
01:39:58,680 --> 01:40:01,720
Speaker 1: and you know you've lost all the captains, and you know,

2268
01:40:01,840 --> 01:40:04,040
Speaker 1: and and and Jakobe just can't really seem to get

2269
01:40:04,080 --> 01:40:06,160
Speaker 1: anything going, and you know, it's just it's been a

2270
01:40:06,240 --> 01:40:07,920
Speaker 1: really trying try and start on.

2271
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Speaker 4: A number of a lot of unforeseen things like they

2272
01:40:11,680 --> 01:40:13,800
Speaker 4: you know, Jeri keeps saying, we kind of knew that

2273
01:40:13,840 --> 01:40:15,519
Speaker 4: we were gonna have some bumps along the way, but

2274
01:40:15,680 --> 01:40:19,640
Speaker 4: I don't think anybody could have foreseen the amount of adversity.

2275
01:40:19,680 --> 01:40:22,240
Speaker 4: And I'm not talking about injuries. Everybody has injuries, but

2276
01:40:22,360 --> 01:40:26,000
Speaker 4: it's it's like the types of you know, blood cloths,

2277
01:40:26,479 --> 01:40:29,519
Speaker 4: losing your you're arguably your best player to blood clots

2278
01:40:29,600 --> 01:40:34,639
Speaker 4: before training camp really even starts like that's different than jeez,

2279
01:40:34,680 --> 01:40:38,599
Speaker 4: you know, we lost Tour to a concussion. Devastating from Miami.

2280
01:40:38,640 --> 01:40:41,439
Speaker 4: I'm not making light of it, but devastating what happened.

2281
01:40:41,600 --> 01:40:43,240
Speaker 4: Like he was on the field and he got hit

2282
01:40:43,400 --> 01:40:46,639
Speaker 4: and he and he's had some history and he got concussed,

2283
01:40:47,560 --> 01:40:51,720
Speaker 4: you know, And it's like you said, it's all your captains, Like,

2284
01:40:52,479 --> 01:40:54,760
Speaker 4: I don't know. I think most teams probably feel like,

2285
01:40:55,840 --> 01:40:58,280
Speaker 4: you know, the leadership of your team is pretty important.

2286
01:40:58,920 --> 01:41:01,600
Speaker 4: And to lose Dugger and Pappers and you know, for

2287
01:41:01,720 --> 01:41:05,439
Speaker 4: different reasons, and then you know Andrews and all the

2288
01:41:05,600 --> 01:41:10,720
Speaker 4: you know, Bentley, all those key guys. That's that's like

2289
01:41:10,960 --> 01:41:14,240
Speaker 4: I understand teams have as many and more injuries, but

2290
01:41:14,360 --> 01:41:17,720
Speaker 4: those are really specific injuries that really hurt right down

2291
01:41:17,760 --> 01:41:20,360
Speaker 4: the middle, like what supposed to be like the strength

2292
01:41:20,400 --> 01:41:24,439
Speaker 4: of your team center, inside, linebacker, safeties.

2293
01:41:24,080 --> 01:41:25,720
Speaker 1: Right in the middle, and a lot of coaches will

2294
01:41:25,760 --> 01:41:28,200
Speaker 1: tell you build from the middle out. But we're excited

2295
01:41:28,280 --> 01:41:30,519
Speaker 1: here on PP and the deuce to be joined by Evan.

2296
01:41:30,600 --> 01:41:45,759
Speaker 1: Lazar has turned has turned all right, Evan's back. In practice,

2297
01:41:45,760 --> 01:41:47,320
Speaker 1: I'll be playing the part of Frank Kersch here.

2298
01:41:47,240 --> 01:41:50,479
Speaker 4: Asking Evan smells like outside. You smell like the fall.

2299
01:41:51,280 --> 01:41:54,560
Speaker 4: It's like a fault, like no, no, no, no, you

2300
01:41:54,640 --> 01:41:56,880
Speaker 4: smell like you just came in from outdoors, like.

2301
01:41:56,960 --> 01:42:03,680
Speaker 1: Beach, like beach. Follow Well, what were you doing out there.

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01:42:06,280 --> 01:42:08,760
Speaker 18: I was rolling around in the leaves like I was

2303
01:42:09,080 --> 01:42:09,760
Speaker 18: eight years old.

2304
01:42:09,920 --> 01:42:13,320
Speaker 1: No, uh, this is weird. This is I I don't

2305
01:42:13,320 --> 01:42:15,840
Speaker 1: even know what sorry as you weird question. So, Evan,

2306
01:42:16,320 --> 01:42:17,280
Speaker 1: what did you see out there?

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01:42:18,120 --> 01:42:18,240
Speaker 3: Uh?

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01:42:18,439 --> 01:42:21,880
Speaker 18: So, some good news, some bad news for the Patriots

2309
01:42:22,280 --> 01:42:26,559
Speaker 18: at practice. I'll start with the bad. No, Kyle Dugar

2310
01:42:26,640 --> 01:42:28,760
Speaker 18: still he still thought that was going to be the

2311
01:42:28,800 --> 01:42:33,000
Speaker 18: good He's still not out there. And no Remondre Stevenson

2312
01:42:33,280 --> 01:42:37,040
Speaker 18: who left Sunday's game with a helmet to the calf

2313
01:42:37,160 --> 01:42:41,080
Speaker 18: like a s I said calf in post game, and

2314
01:42:41,360 --> 01:42:46,000
Speaker 18: so he's not out there today for the Patriots at practice.

2315
01:42:46,760 --> 01:42:49,800
Speaker 18: The good news is that the offensive line seems like

2316
01:42:49,880 --> 01:42:51,960
Speaker 18: it made it through healthy, so maybe we'll get some

2317
01:42:52,080 --> 01:42:55,479
Speaker 18: continuity up front on the offensive line. And the really

2318
01:42:55,520 --> 01:42:58,439
Speaker 18: good news is that Drake May has taking all the

2319
01:42:58,479 --> 01:42:59,040
Speaker 18: first team.

2320
01:42:58,960 --> 01:43:02,360
Speaker 4: Round surprised that he's any of the other and that

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01:43:02,600 --> 01:43:03,639
Speaker 4: was a really good news.

2322
01:43:03,720 --> 01:43:06,320
Speaker 18: But uh, you know, some some things that maybe we'll

2323
01:43:06,400 --> 01:43:08,800
Speaker 18: all share off the air that I don't know if okay,

2324
01:43:09,960 --> 01:43:13,880
Speaker 18: you know right now I'm trying to Yeah, but some

2325
01:43:14,040 --> 01:43:15,200
Speaker 18: interesting things happened.

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01:43:15,360 --> 01:43:17,960
Speaker 1: Well, what would you say was the move that's a

2327
01:43:18,000 --> 01:43:23,400
Speaker 1: little early finish sorry, yeah, I mean really passed as

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01:43:23,439 --> 01:43:23,680
Speaker 1: I am.

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01:43:23,920 --> 01:43:27,400
Speaker 18: Pads on pads on Wednesday seems to be the theme

2330
01:43:28,120 --> 01:43:30,920
Speaker 18: under Mayo. It seems like that's the way that's going

2331
01:43:31,000 --> 01:43:34,160
Speaker 18: to be for the foreseeable future. Maybe they start winning

2332
01:43:34,240 --> 01:43:36,759
Speaker 18: some games, maybe he gives them, gives them a reprieve.

2333
01:43:36,880 --> 01:43:39,880
Speaker 18: But right now, pads on Wednesday is an automatic. It's

2334
01:43:39,960 --> 01:43:44,639
Speaker 18: so far. And the mood was, I mean, this media contingent.

2335
01:43:44,680 --> 01:43:46,040
Speaker 18: I don't know if you guys already talked about this,

2336
01:43:46,160 --> 01:43:49,960
Speaker 18: but this was like Brady Day level people. There was

2337
01:43:50,000 --> 01:43:52,599
Speaker 18: a lot of today, a lot of people, good crowd,

2338
01:43:53,520 --> 01:43:55,559
Speaker 18: good crowd, out of practice, nice weather.

2339
01:43:55,720 --> 01:43:57,880
Speaker 1: So it was it was an interesting day. So there

2340
01:43:57,960 --> 01:44:01,840
Speaker 1: was no grousing. No there there is no grousing at all. No,

2341
01:44:02,080 --> 01:44:03,200
Speaker 1: there is no grousing at all.

2342
01:44:03,320 --> 01:44:05,120
Speaker 4: This was all good grousing, placement.

2343
01:44:05,479 --> 01:44:07,559
Speaker 1: Happy. We were looking for all the big jay journalists

2344
01:44:07,560 --> 01:44:09,160
Speaker 1: who come down like on these days and that's the

2345
01:44:09,240 --> 01:44:11,000
Speaker 1: hard questions, but there weren't any of those.

2346
01:44:11,080 --> 01:44:12,840
Speaker 4: It was just they also have the voice.

2347
01:44:12,960 --> 01:44:15,439
Speaker 1: Yeah, hi, Jerrod Rush in the back.

2348
01:44:15,560 --> 01:44:19,000
Speaker 4: Uh, what would you say to the fans that demands

2349
01:44:19,160 --> 01:44:21,400
Speaker 4: that Jacoby Brissetts, it remains the starter.

2350
01:44:22,160 --> 01:44:25,160
Speaker 1: That's good Paul got around the blox a few times. Evan,

2351
01:44:25,160 --> 01:44:27,640
Speaker 1: I was saving this email for when you got in.

2352
01:44:27,800 --> 01:44:30,240
Speaker 1: So this is from David Hingham, I said over the

2353
01:44:30,280 --> 01:44:33,280
Speaker 1: past this is the first time, longtime listener, first time emailer,

2354
01:44:33,960 --> 01:44:36,080
Speaker 1: I said. Over the past few years, Fred has made

2355
01:44:36,120 --> 01:44:37,960
Speaker 1: a point of calling out how balance and fair you

2356
01:44:38,040 --> 01:44:40,200
Speaker 1: collectively are in your approach to covering the team. I

2357
01:44:40,320 --> 01:44:43,640
Speaker 1: agree this recent recent Evans situation and how you've all

2358
01:44:43,720 --> 01:44:45,799
Speaker 1: responded the ups and downs is a cost of doing business.

2359
01:44:46,080 --> 01:44:48,519
Speaker 1: You all have the best intentions. There's no better way

2360
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Speaker 1: to honor Evan and show my support than buying you

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01:44:50,960 --> 01:44:52,680
Speaker 1: all lunch so you can take a break from when

2362
01:44:52,760 --> 01:44:54,040
Speaker 1: pull Paul's food gets there.

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Speaker 4: WHOA wow?

2364
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Speaker 1: So theres Matt write that down Jersey in order of yes,

2365
01:45:04,000 --> 01:45:07,800
Speaker 1: I appreciate, So Evan you were there. Just what do

2366
01:45:07,880 --> 01:45:10,080
Speaker 1: you think of the of the press conference today with

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01:45:10,200 --> 01:45:11,760
Speaker 1: with Mayo and Drake.

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Speaker 18: Yeah, for that matter, don't forget about your shirt.

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01:45:16,360 --> 01:45:16,880
Speaker 4: I would say.

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Speaker 18: The biggest thing that I keep hearing about this was

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01:45:21,840 --> 01:45:26,400
Speaker 18: that knee jerk reaction like this wasn't the plan. They're

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01:45:26,439 --> 01:45:29,000
Speaker 18: only doing this because they're one and four and there's

2373
01:45:29,040 --> 01:45:33,040
Speaker 18: some bad publicity around the team and they're just trying to,

2374
01:45:33,760 --> 01:45:36,400
Speaker 18: you know, get some some juices, you know, some marketing

2375
01:45:36,560 --> 01:45:39,800
Speaker 18: juices out of it. And I gotta be honest, I

2376
01:45:39,920 --> 01:45:42,240
Speaker 18: just I don't really see it that way, and I

2377
01:45:42,280 --> 01:45:44,960
Speaker 18: don't think that's what Grod Mayo said either. And I

2378
01:45:45,040 --> 01:45:46,680
Speaker 18: think a lot of people to me are kind of

2379
01:45:46,720 --> 01:45:49,280
Speaker 18: speaking out of both sides of their mouths. Because the

2380
01:45:49,360 --> 01:45:52,920
Speaker 18: games go on and then on Mondays, all I hear

2381
01:45:53,160 --> 01:45:56,000
Speaker 18: on Paul's shows for eight straight hours is how awful

2382
01:45:56,080 --> 01:45:58,679
Speaker 18: the team is and how Girod doesn't know what he's doing,

2383
01:45:58,840 --> 01:46:01,759
Speaker 18: and they have no offer offence and the AVP stinks

2384
01:46:01,800 --> 01:46:04,760
Speaker 18: and the passing offense stinks, and now we're gonna put

2385
01:46:04,760 --> 01:46:06,880
Speaker 18: the you know, put Drake may in there to try

2386
01:46:06,960 --> 01:46:09,880
Speaker 18: to make all of that better. And now that's the

2387
01:46:09,960 --> 01:46:12,280
Speaker 18: wrong move too. So it's like the guy can't win,

2388
01:46:12,479 --> 01:46:14,960
Speaker 18: Like if he doesn't play Drake may then he gets

2389
01:46:15,040 --> 01:46:17,439
Speaker 18: killed every week because they're not playing well on Sundays

2390
01:46:17,479 --> 01:46:19,599
Speaker 18: and they're losing games and they're not scoring any points.

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01:46:20,000 --> 01:46:22,000
Speaker 18: If he does play Drake May, well, you can't you

2392
01:46:22,080 --> 01:46:25,040
Speaker 18: can't put him into this situation. This is what are

2393
01:46:25,040 --> 01:46:25,400
Speaker 18: they doing.

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01:46:25,520 --> 01:46:27,400
Speaker 4: I had that rant in the first ten minutes. I

2395
01:46:27,479 --> 01:46:29,240
Speaker 4: was like, you know, what are they waiting for? What

2396
01:46:29,720 --> 01:46:32,320
Speaker 4: are they doing? They can't move, they can't move the ball,

2397
01:46:32,400 --> 01:46:35,439
Speaker 4: they have no offense. Just put May in there. Drake

2398
01:46:35,479 --> 01:46:38,160
Speaker 4: May is the starting quarterback? What happened to the plan?

2399
01:46:39,040 --> 01:46:39,080
Speaker 10: Like?

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01:46:39,120 --> 01:46:41,439
Speaker 4: Why are we rushing it? Why against Houston? He's gonna

2401
01:46:41,439 --> 01:46:44,160
Speaker 4: get hurt? Like and I don't know how they could win.

2402
01:46:44,320 --> 01:46:45,840
Speaker 4: I really don't know how they can win this one.

2403
01:46:45,920 --> 01:46:48,840
Speaker 4: There's no perfect time to make this move right.

2404
01:46:48,920 --> 01:46:51,599
Speaker 18: And the other thing you just mentioned Houston. I'm hearing

2405
01:46:51,720 --> 01:46:55,040
Speaker 18: so much about how terrible of a matchup this is

2406
01:46:55,120 --> 01:47:00,280
Speaker 18: against Houston. If Drake May gets broken because of one game,

2407
01:47:01,280 --> 01:47:04,080
Speaker 18: his very first start in his NFL career, and he's

2408
01:47:04,160 --> 01:47:07,120
Speaker 18: already a lost cause because he saw a good pass

2409
01:47:07,200 --> 01:47:08,759
Speaker 18: rush in his open his first.

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Speaker 4: Guy had a great point about how he thinks Houston

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01:47:11,760 --> 01:47:15,320
Speaker 4: could be a really good game to get under his belt.

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Speaker 1: Let Mike was just saying, this is a team that

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01:47:17,680 --> 01:47:19,400
Speaker 1: is going to probably be a contender in the FCV.

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01:47:19,640 --> 01:47:21,880
Speaker 1: While if you're gonna if you're serious about getting winning

2415
01:47:21,920 --> 01:47:23,920
Speaker 1: in the playoffs, getting in the super Bowl, this is

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01:47:23,920 --> 01:47:25,439
Speaker 1: a team you're gonna have to probably be beat it.

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01:47:25,439 --> 01:47:29,920
Speaker 4: Same and wouldn't that be like beneficial if this guy

2418
01:47:29,960 --> 01:47:31,439
Speaker 4: that you want to put you a quarterback for the

2419
01:47:31,479 --> 01:47:35,880
Speaker 4: next ten years, the Houston Texans more than likely going

2420
01:47:35,960 --> 01:47:37,840
Speaker 4: to be a player in the AFC for I don't know,

2421
01:47:38,000 --> 01:47:41,479
Speaker 4: let's just say five years. Yeah, right, what's wrong with that?

2422
01:47:41,640 --> 01:47:43,400
Speaker 4: What's wrong with that is Bob I.

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01:47:43,479 --> 01:47:45,240
Speaker 18: Used to say, Well, it's just so we all are

2424
01:47:45,280 --> 01:47:48,680
Speaker 18: in agreement that last week against Miami would have been

2425
01:47:48,760 --> 01:47:52,120
Speaker 18: fine for him to play his first game problem, which

2426
01:47:52,200 --> 01:47:54,120
Speaker 18: means that he was going to play Houston this week,

2427
01:47:54,880 --> 01:47:57,080
Speaker 18: right and ready then and then we're all.

2428
01:47:57,280 --> 01:47:59,360
Speaker 4: It would have been his second game under his belt, right.

2429
01:47:59,280 --> 01:48:01,120
Speaker 18: And then we all are in agreement that next week

2430
01:48:01,160 --> 01:48:03,760
Speaker 18: against Jacksonville would be okay too, because you know they

2431
01:48:03,920 --> 01:48:06,400
Speaker 18: it's in London, and they're not a good defense, and this,

2432
01:48:06,600 --> 01:48:08,799
Speaker 18: that and the other thing. So what you're really whittling

2433
01:48:08,880 --> 01:48:13,040
Speaker 18: it down to is that one game against the Texans

2434
01:48:13,479 --> 01:48:16,519
Speaker 18: is going to derail his entire NFL career. And if

2435
01:48:16,600 --> 01:48:18,599
Speaker 18: that's the case, then he's not the guy. Like if

2436
01:48:18,600 --> 01:48:21,400
Speaker 18: he gets broken from one game, then you're in. Then

2437
01:48:21,439 --> 01:48:24,120
Speaker 18: you didn't draft the game, Yeah, And I just kind

2438
01:48:24,120 --> 01:48:28,240
Speaker 18: of that's just frustrating because, like you know, I can't win.

2439
01:48:28,800 --> 01:48:29,360
Speaker 7: You can't win.

2440
01:48:29,640 --> 01:48:33,920
Speaker 18: And I thought what he said today about look at

2441
01:48:34,200 --> 01:48:37,760
Speaker 18: it's a results based business. Basically he said, we're in

2442
01:48:37,840 --> 01:48:40,679
Speaker 18: a winning league and right now we're one and four,

2443
01:48:41,640 --> 01:48:43,160
Speaker 18: and the guys in the locker room.

2444
01:48:43,080 --> 01:48:43,479
Speaker 1: Want to win.

2445
01:48:44,840 --> 01:48:47,520
Speaker 4: And that was basically the crux of what I was trying.

2446
01:48:47,280 --> 01:48:50,320
Speaker 18: To say last week before I've lost my mind, And

2447
01:48:51,160 --> 01:48:55,080
Speaker 18: that's exactly what I was getting at, was that at

2448
01:48:55,160 --> 01:48:57,920
Speaker 18: some point, the eye and the sky don't lie, like

2449
01:48:58,320 --> 01:49:00,400
Speaker 18: whether it's on the practice field or it's in the

2450
01:49:00,479 --> 01:49:03,439
Speaker 18: games on Sundays. You can't go in there with the

2451
01:49:03,479 --> 01:49:07,080
Speaker 18: straight face and then continue to tell people that this

2452
01:49:07,520 --> 01:49:09,519
Speaker 18: that Jacoby resect gives you the best chance to win

2453
01:49:10,200 --> 01:49:13,719
Speaker 18: when everybody behind the scenes knows what's happening at practice

2454
01:49:13,840 --> 01:49:17,040
Speaker 18: and knows what's happening in the games. At some point,

2455
01:49:17,439 --> 01:49:20,519
Speaker 18: like Gerrodmeo said, Drake May gives us the best chance

2456
01:49:20,560 --> 01:49:20,800
Speaker 18: to win.

2457
01:49:21,160 --> 01:49:23,320
Speaker 1: And that point is now what was going on in

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01:49:23,320 --> 01:49:26,080
Speaker 1: the locker room. I didn't get in there. Who who

2459
01:49:26,160 --> 01:49:26,759
Speaker 1: got interviewed?

2460
01:49:26,960 --> 01:49:27,640
Speaker 4: Yeah, there was a lot.

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01:49:27,840 --> 01:49:30,080
Speaker 18: There was a lot of interviews obviously on the offensive

2462
01:49:30,080 --> 01:49:32,439
Speaker 18: side of the ball, as you could imagine, and uh,

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01:49:32,600 --> 01:49:36,200
Speaker 18: you know, it was. I thought it was the same.

2464
01:49:36,240 --> 01:49:38,760
Speaker 18: I'm trying not to be too careful about, you know,

2465
01:49:38,840 --> 01:49:42,040
Speaker 18: my opinions on locker rooms right now, but I thought

2466
01:49:42,120 --> 01:49:46,400
Speaker 18: it was all positive messaging coming out of the locker

2467
01:49:46,479 --> 01:49:49,600
Speaker 18: room in respect to both quarterbacks. You know, if they

2468
01:49:49,640 --> 01:49:51,800
Speaker 18: had stuck with Brissette, it seems like the guys would

2469
01:49:51,800 --> 01:49:55,080
Speaker 18: have been behind that. Yeah, but they are also excited

2470
01:49:55,120 --> 01:49:56,040
Speaker 18: about what's to come.

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01:49:55,960 --> 01:50:00,160
Speaker 4: With uh Jacoby around it all. He was did he speak? No, No,

2472
01:50:00,439 --> 01:50:01,640
Speaker 4: he did not. He did not.

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Speaker 18: But you know, one of the things I think that

2474
01:50:03,960 --> 01:50:07,120
Speaker 18: really stands classy guy, really classy guy. And one of

2475
01:50:07,120 --> 01:50:09,519
Speaker 18: the things that stands out to me about him is

2476
01:50:09,600 --> 01:50:11,719
Speaker 18: that it seems as though just being out of practice

2477
01:50:11,760 --> 01:50:16,200
Speaker 18: briefly like his role as mentor, he has not stopped

2478
01:50:16,240 --> 01:50:17,200
Speaker 18: fulfilling that role.

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01:50:17,280 --> 01:50:18,960
Speaker 4: Yeah, certainly, Drake said that. Yeah.

2480
01:50:19,080 --> 01:50:20,840
Speaker 1: Do you think there's impressive relief a little bit for

2481
01:50:20,920 --> 01:50:23,080
Speaker 1: Jacoby Brissette of just like getting your doors beaten in

2482
01:50:23,240 --> 01:50:25,479
Speaker 1: for five straight weeks and being like, oh God, thank god,

2483
01:50:25,520 --> 01:50:28,240
Speaker 1: I can just have a weekly take to gather myself.

2484
01:50:28,360 --> 01:50:29,720
Speaker 4: You know, I think he wants to play.

2485
01:50:30,120 --> 01:50:34,000
Speaker 1: Probably that's how the nflers are question here from Cole

2486
01:50:34,080 --> 01:50:37,080
Speaker 1: on Cape Cod. Uh, is this not what we expected

2487
01:50:37,120 --> 01:50:38,680
Speaker 1: the season to be. The team is super young, a

2488
01:50:38,720 --> 01:50:41,599
Speaker 1: whole new staff, tons of adversity. Everyone knew this season

2489
01:50:41,640 --> 01:50:43,120
Speaker 1: from the beginning was not going to be a deep

2490
01:50:43,120 --> 01:50:45,439
Speaker 1: playoff run, even playoff team. I think we need to

2491
01:50:45,439 --> 01:50:47,960
Speaker 1: spin the light here and see see it in the

2492
01:50:48,000 --> 01:50:50,840
Speaker 1: aspect of this team is super young. They're gaining invaluable

2493
01:50:50,880 --> 01:50:53,400
Speaker 1: experience and setting a foundation for the future. All of

2494
01:50:53,439 --> 01:50:55,840
Speaker 1: our captains are down, Okay, cool, so who steps up?

2495
01:50:56,120 --> 01:50:58,320
Speaker 1: There's so much opportunity for the young guys and staff

2496
01:50:58,360 --> 01:51:00,080
Speaker 1: that we have to learn and set a foundation for

2497
01:51:00,120 --> 01:51:02,880
Speaker 1: the future. Face the adversity now and build a team

2498
01:51:03,080 --> 01:51:05,080
Speaker 1: for the future. I mean, I kind of generally agree,

2499
01:51:05,080 --> 01:51:06,280
Speaker 1: but it's it's been a lot.

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01:51:06,400 --> 01:51:08,800
Speaker 4: It's been like more than I even expected of. I

2501
01:51:08,840 --> 01:51:10,880
Speaker 4: couldn't argue with any of the facts that he just

2502
01:51:11,160 --> 01:51:15,400
Speaker 4: put forth. I just think you're glossing over, like, yeah,

2503
01:51:15,439 --> 01:51:18,120
Speaker 4: I think we all kind of expected to not be good.

2504
01:51:18,439 --> 01:51:20,559
Speaker 4: Did you expect him not to be able to score

2505
01:51:20,600 --> 01:51:20,880
Speaker 4: at all?

2506
01:51:21,280 --> 01:51:21,479
Speaker 8: Yeah?

2507
01:51:22,280 --> 01:51:25,840
Speaker 4: You know, And yeah I get it. They they got younger.

2508
01:51:26,120 --> 01:51:28,519
Speaker 4: They because they were one of the oldest teams in

2509
01:51:28,560 --> 01:51:32,920
Speaker 4: the league. You know, not every year of the last

2510
01:51:32,920 --> 01:51:36,080
Speaker 4: five years, but among the last five years, and they

2511
01:51:36,160 --> 01:51:38,640
Speaker 4: over they overturned some of that and they got a

2512
01:51:38,680 --> 01:51:41,000
Speaker 4: little bit younger. They kept the entire draft class. But

2513
01:51:41,400 --> 01:51:44,000
Speaker 4: how many of those guys are really playing important roles?

2514
01:51:44,640 --> 01:51:47,240
Speaker 4: You know, we talked about some of those guys toward

2515
01:51:47,240 --> 01:51:50,439
Speaker 4: the bottom, you know, Polkis and now May's in there,

2516
01:51:50,560 --> 01:51:53,040
Speaker 4: Wallace and rob and Robinson's been a starter for you.

2517
01:51:54,640 --> 01:51:58,439
Speaker 4: You know, Wallace is hurt, he's not playing, Baker's inactive

2518
01:51:58,520 --> 01:52:02,240
Speaker 4: every week, Bell's in active most weeks, dials a special

2519
01:52:02,280 --> 01:52:04,880
Speaker 4: team or so like, you're not getting a tremendous amount

2520
01:52:04,920 --> 01:52:07,880
Speaker 4: out of those young guys, you know, the rookies, I

2521
01:52:07,920 --> 01:52:09,920
Speaker 4: should say, not the young you know, like Mapu came in,

2522
01:52:10,360 --> 01:52:12,559
Speaker 4: second year guy, he's a young guy. Played the whole

2523
01:52:12,600 --> 01:52:13,240
Speaker 4: game the other day.

2524
01:52:13,280 --> 01:52:15,040
Speaker 1: So Pettis played a little bit too. I mean he got,

2525
01:52:15,120 --> 01:52:16,920
Speaker 1: you know, some opportunities. That's just what I would hope

2526
01:52:16,960 --> 01:52:18,479
Speaker 1: is that some of these guys take advantage of those

2527
01:52:18,520 --> 01:52:22,759
Speaker 1: and and like to the emailer's point, take advantage blossom

2528
01:52:23,080 --> 01:52:24,839
Speaker 1: and all of a sudden, you know, you weren't expecting

2529
01:52:24,880 --> 01:52:27,560
Speaker 1: del Pettis to maybe be that third safety, but you know,

2530
01:52:27,640 --> 01:52:29,559
Speaker 1: maybe there's something there I don't I'm just don't using

2531
01:52:29,560 --> 01:52:30,000
Speaker 1: them as well.

2532
01:52:30,240 --> 01:52:32,920
Speaker 18: I feel like that email is z accurate now, like,

2533
01:52:33,040 --> 01:52:36,200
Speaker 18: now that Drake May is playing, I'm still not expecting

2534
01:52:36,240 --> 01:52:38,280
Speaker 18: them to all of a sudden go on a ten

2535
01:52:38,360 --> 01:52:40,880
Speaker 18: game winning streak and made the playoffs. So now we

2536
01:52:41,000 --> 01:52:43,919
Speaker 18: can sort of grade it out as is their progress,

2537
01:52:44,240 --> 01:52:47,800
Speaker 18: is there upward trajectory to the offense and to his

2538
01:52:48,040 --> 01:52:50,879
Speaker 18: play and all that kind of stuff, and not necessarily

2539
01:52:50,920 --> 01:52:52,960
Speaker 18: harp so much on wins and losses. I think what

2540
01:52:53,160 --> 01:52:55,600
Speaker 18: was going on in the first five games is just

2541
01:52:55,720 --> 01:52:58,120
Speaker 18: that it was like a road to nowhere. You know,

2542
01:52:58,240 --> 01:53:01,640
Speaker 18: they weren't playing Drake, they weren't scoring on offense, they

2543
01:53:01,680 --> 01:53:03,599
Speaker 18: weren't competitive in a lot of these games.

2544
01:53:03,800 --> 01:53:08,400
Speaker 4: If it's the same exact game Sunday, you'll feel better, Yeah, right,

2545
01:53:08,479 --> 01:53:11,000
Speaker 4: even if they like if they lose fifteen to ten,

2546
01:53:11,400 --> 01:53:14,920
Speaker 4: but you know you'd feel better about it.

2547
01:53:15,000 --> 01:53:16,559
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, so long a stream doesn't get hurt.

2548
01:53:16,680 --> 01:53:18,320
Speaker 4: Right, as long as he played and you got hurt

2549
01:53:18,360 --> 01:53:22,280
Speaker 4: because I love the road to nowhere. Comment like, if

2550
01:53:22,320 --> 01:53:24,320
Speaker 4: it's a road to nowhere, at least you're getting your

2551
01:53:24,400 --> 01:53:26,479
Speaker 4: quarterback his feet. Well, like, if we're not going to

2552
01:53:26,520 --> 01:53:29,639
Speaker 4: move the ball, then why not play the rookie quarterback?

2553
01:53:29,760 --> 01:53:31,880
Speaker 1: You know, and it's like every single rep hass value,

2554
01:53:32,000 --> 01:53:34,960
Speaker 1: like every single play has some kind of value to

2555
01:53:35,040 --> 01:53:38,719
Speaker 1: him of experience or you know, just playing against these defenses,

2556
01:53:38,720 --> 01:53:41,960
Speaker 1: playing in different locations. I mean, that's that's the biggest thing.

2557
01:53:41,880 --> 01:53:43,200
Speaker 4: For me is just you know, the rookies.

2558
01:53:43,400 --> 01:53:45,680
Speaker 18: I mean, there's just so much talk about like the

2559
01:53:46,960 --> 01:53:50,400
Speaker 18: why now and what's what's the point in such a

2560
01:53:50,520 --> 01:53:54,559
Speaker 18: terrible situation. They have one hundred and nineteen passing yards

2561
01:53:54,600 --> 01:53:59,240
Speaker 18: a game through five weeks. One hundred and nineteen like that's.

2562
01:53:59,080 --> 01:54:01,479
Speaker 4: You know, that ranks my probably close to the bottom

2563
01:54:01,479 --> 01:54:04,240
Speaker 4: of the thirty two. That's not NFL offense.

2564
01:54:04,400 --> 01:54:06,559
Speaker 18: Yeah, so when you look at some of these other

2565
01:54:06,640 --> 01:54:10,960
Speaker 18: players that are around the quarterback, you can't go through

2566
01:54:11,000 --> 01:54:13,160
Speaker 18: an entire season like that.

2567
01:54:13,520 --> 01:54:17,320
Speaker 1: That's fair, You really just can't. Christ new Hampshire says

2568
01:54:17,360 --> 01:54:19,400
Speaker 1: the sickle on me wants the Jets to hire Bill.

2569
01:54:19,880 --> 01:54:22,840
Speaker 1: The chaos that would erupt would be wildly entertaining. The

2570
01:54:22,920 --> 01:54:25,280
Speaker 1: Bill simps versus the Bill haters would be so much.

2571
01:54:25,600 --> 01:54:28,800
Speaker 1: Football is about entertainment. Let us enjoy ourselves. Chaos is fun.

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Speaker 1: I kind of agree I don't think Bill simps the Billuminati.

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Speaker 4: The Billuminati, that's my that's my new one.

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Speaker 1: The bill Uminati. Yeah, they're God bless them though. I

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01:54:38,640 --> 01:54:40,480
Speaker 1: mean that's you know, it's a new faction. They just

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01:54:40,640 --> 01:54:43,240
Speaker 1: formed in this past year. You know, you didn't really

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Speaker 1: hear much from those guys. I mean, I guess you did.

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01:54:45,520 --> 01:54:48,720
Speaker 1: They were more though the anti media defend the Wall,

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01:54:49,160 --> 01:54:52,760
Speaker 1: the wall anti media against you know them saying that

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01:54:52,800 --> 01:54:55,120
Speaker 1: they didn't like Bill's press conferences and now it's you know,

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01:54:55,240 --> 01:54:59,280
Speaker 1: everything was was better last year, which I take issue

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01:54:59,280 --> 01:55:03,640
Speaker 1: with Bridge. Uh did you hear this one from Spi

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01:55:04,560 --> 01:55:06,880
Speaker 1: and Fresno? Obviously, psych for the Drake, a lot is

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01:55:06,920 --> 01:55:09,720
Speaker 1: on the kids shoulders. Ideally, Mayo at Hall would have

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01:55:09,760 --> 01:55:12,880
Speaker 1: succeeded better in establishing a foundation for success, but they haven't.

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Speaker 1: Are you concerned that Mayo's regime hasn't been very successful

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01:55:16,160 --> 01:55:18,360
Speaker 1: so far? Or maybe to ask it differently, given what

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01:55:18,520 --> 01:55:20,680
Speaker 1: you've seen thus far, how many games will you give

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01:55:20,760 --> 01:55:23,200
Speaker 1: Mayo to write the ship before you really doubt his

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01:55:23,360 --> 01:55:24,280
Speaker 1: coaching ability?

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Speaker 4: Yeah? I mean I think that's kind of unfair, like

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01:55:30,520 --> 01:55:33,280
Speaker 4: we're just we're just getting started here now. I mentioned

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01:55:33,320 --> 01:55:35,880
Speaker 4: about a half hour ago about kind of the in

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01:55:36,040 --> 01:55:38,520
Speaker 4: game mistakes that we've seen. I don't want to see

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01:55:38,520 --> 01:55:42,480
Speaker 4: those continue to get repeated. That would that would cause me, Yeah,

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01:55:42,480 --> 01:55:45,440
Speaker 4: that would cause me some concern, that would sort of

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01:55:45,640 --> 01:55:48,880
Speaker 4: rattle my confidence a little bit. But it's five games. Yeah,

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01:55:49,080 --> 01:55:52,280
Speaker 4: Now you're just sort of getting to what you want

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01:55:52,320 --> 01:55:54,880
Speaker 4: to see, right with the with the new quarterback, Let's

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01:55:55,360 --> 01:55:57,240
Speaker 4: kind of see how it unfolds before we worry about

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01:55:57,440 --> 01:55:59,040
Speaker 4: putting a ticking clock on it.

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Speaker 1: I also just look at now.

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Speaker 18: To me, now it really begins for Alex van Pelt,

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01:56:05,240 --> 01:56:08,720
Speaker 18: like what you have the quarterback now that you want

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01:56:08,800 --> 01:56:11,880
Speaker 18: it in there? Who has all the physical talent in

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01:56:11,960 --> 01:56:14,960
Speaker 18: the world, and not even just from a fundamental standpoint

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01:56:15,040 --> 01:56:17,600
Speaker 18: like footwork and all that kind of stuff, Like show

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01:56:17,640 --> 01:56:21,120
Speaker 18: me something like you schematically, show show me something, Show

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01:56:21,160 --> 01:56:23,040
Speaker 18: me what you got. You know, what is it that

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01:56:23,200 --> 01:56:26,840
Speaker 18: you envisioned when you drafted Jake May, Drake May and

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01:56:26,920 --> 01:56:29,200
Speaker 18: the and the April. You can't tell me that him

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01:56:29,200 --> 01:56:32,480
Speaker 18: and Ben McAdoo haven't been thinking about what are we

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01:56:32,600 --> 01:56:33,000
Speaker 18: gonna call?

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01:56:33,280 --> 01:56:33,560
Speaker 4: How are you?

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01:56:33,680 --> 01:56:35,120
Speaker 1: How are we gonna run this offense?

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01:56:35,400 --> 01:56:37,280
Speaker 4: Like what's the design of the offense gonna be?

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01:56:37,880 --> 01:56:38,200
Speaker 7: Like? Now?

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01:56:38,280 --> 01:56:41,120
Speaker 18: We get to really see what is it that they

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01:56:41,200 --> 01:56:44,640
Speaker 18: had this vision with Drake and can van Pelt live

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01:56:44,760 --> 01:56:46,400
Speaker 18: up to it? Like is does he have the chops

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01:56:46,440 --> 01:56:47,040
Speaker 18: to live up to it?

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01:56:47,160 --> 01:56:48,800
Speaker 1: Is there one thing you would say, just off the

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01:56:48,840 --> 01:56:50,800
Speaker 1: top of your head of that you think Alex van

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01:56:50,880 --> 01:56:53,360
Speaker 1: Pelt should do maybe a little differently with Drake may now.

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Speaker 4: In there pistol?

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01:56:54,600 --> 01:56:57,560
Speaker 18: Yeah, I really feel strongly that they need to operate

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01:56:58,200 --> 01:57:01,560
Speaker 18: instead of operating from true under center in the run game,

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Speaker 18: is putting him in the pistol like he was in

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01:57:04,320 --> 01:57:06,520
Speaker 18: North Carolina And you see that in different places in

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01:57:06,560 --> 01:57:09,920
Speaker 18: the NFL now too, because that's that, to me, is

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01:57:09,960 --> 01:57:12,560
Speaker 18: a compromise, Like he might not be one hundred percent

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01:57:12,640 --> 01:57:15,760
Speaker 18: comfortable yet with running under center. We saw some ups

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01:57:15,760 --> 01:57:18,760
Speaker 18: and downs with it in the preseason and in training camp.

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01:57:19,080 --> 01:57:21,640
Speaker 18: So let's compromise and we can still run a lot

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01:57:21,720 --> 01:57:26,360
Speaker 18: of the same under center plays that we would run traditionally.

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01:57:26,840 --> 01:57:29,440
Speaker 18: Let's put him in the pistol like Miami does, like

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01:57:29,520 --> 01:57:32,720
Speaker 18: Tennessee is doing with Will Levis, like Atlanta does, Like

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01:57:32,800 --> 01:57:35,040
Speaker 18: there's so many teams that do this across the league now.

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Speaker 18: And if they come out on Sunday and all their

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Speaker 18: under center players are now out of the pistol. I'd

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01:57:42,240 --> 01:57:44,760
Speaker 18: give him all sorts of flowers for that, Like, that's innovative.

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Speaker 4: And you might disagree with this, but the whole Stevenson thing,

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01:57:50,480 --> 01:57:53,440
Speaker 4: if that happens, that might be a blessing in disguise

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01:57:53,480 --> 01:57:55,760
Speaker 4: if he's maybe a little banged up, because I think

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Speaker 4: Gibson's better suited for that to run out of that

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Speaker 4: than steven Yeah, you know, I mean it's probably not

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01:58:02,160 --> 01:58:05,600
Speaker 4: a huge difference, but yeah, I like Remondre like running

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01:58:06,040 --> 01:58:08,560
Speaker 4: you know, that's the under center runs. I like him

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01:58:08,600 --> 01:58:11,400
Speaker 4: better moving forward, whereas I think Gibson's probably a little

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Speaker 4: bit maybe quicker and can operate with that.

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Speaker 3: You know.

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Speaker 4: That's that's interesting to me. Like if they if they

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01:58:17,960 --> 01:58:20,600
Speaker 4: change the way they run the ball for Drake, may

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01:58:21,000 --> 01:58:23,120
Speaker 4: you know, like you don't necessarily that's not that wouldn't

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01:58:23,120 --> 01:58:24,640
Speaker 4: be the first thing that comes to mind. So that's

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01:58:24,680 --> 01:58:25,240
Speaker 4: a different thing.

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Speaker 18: Yeah, I mean, I know we don't have much much

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01:58:27,000 --> 01:58:31,200
Speaker 18: time left, but just the mechanics of the pistol is

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01:58:31,240 --> 01:58:34,040
Speaker 18: basically the same as running it from under center, except

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01:58:34,120 --> 01:58:37,320
Speaker 18: obviously the quarterback's catching the snap instead of being under center.

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Speaker 18: You can still add gaps onto the line of scrimmage

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Speaker 18: because the back is behind the quarterback, and the quarterback

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01:58:43,240 --> 01:58:45,560
Speaker 18: can also still turn his back to the defense and

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01:58:45,640 --> 01:58:48,120
Speaker 18: play action fake out of it, and you can run

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01:58:48,240 --> 01:58:50,680
Speaker 18: quarterback option out of it too. So there's just all

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Speaker 18: sorts of different things that you can do out of

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Speaker 18: the pistol that don't exist in an an under center.

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Speaker 18: But he's a traditional under center guy, so is he

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Speaker 18: willing to pivot out to that?

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Speaker 7: All?

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Speaker 4: Right?

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Speaker 4: Will you want to?

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Speaker 1: I think I was on eighty five of the hundred. No,

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Speaker 1: I wasn't one hundred, No, I wasn't one hundred. She

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Speaker 1: Keep up the great work and uh yeah, the playbook's

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