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Speaker 3: On today's episode of Reality for the King, I am

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Speaker 3: of Potomac without further ado, please welcome Charis Eyelashes.

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Speaker 1: Time ever saying that. Ever, I've never even said that.

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Speaker 1: But I came back with truths. That's why she doesn't

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00:24:19,359 --> 00:24:19,800
Speaker 1: fuck with me.

435
00:24:21,359 --> 00:24:24,399
Speaker 2: Oh, stay tuned.

436
00:24:25,160 --> 00:24:29,720
Speaker 3: Okay, So, speaking of lying, there was a recent episode

437
00:24:30,160 --> 00:24:36,639
Speaker 3: where the Housewives of Potomac were at this winery and

438
00:24:37,560 --> 00:24:44,160
Speaker 3: Robin and Wendy had it out, and Wendy said, that girl,

439
00:24:44,240 --> 00:24:46,920
Speaker 3: you got so I'm paraphrasing, but that Robin got so

440
00:24:47,040 --> 00:24:50,679
Speaker 3: aggressive that it took Cheries to kind of hold her

441
00:24:50,760 --> 00:24:53,760
Speaker 3: back and put her hands on Robin to hold her back.

442
00:24:54,280 --> 00:24:58,520
Speaker 3: Robin denied it. She facetimed, you're pretty ass. You said no,

443
00:24:58,680 --> 00:25:05,399
Speaker 3: I never did it. Editors rewound the tape showed that

444
00:25:05,560 --> 00:25:07,480
Speaker 3: you did push Robin back.

445
00:25:07,960 --> 00:25:11,399
Speaker 1: I didn't push her. I touched her. I was like, like,

446
00:25:11,680 --> 00:25:16,680
Speaker 1: sit down. I just first of all, we had security there.

447
00:25:17,119 --> 00:25:20,879
Speaker 1: We had security, so it wasn't an environment where Robin

448
00:25:21,000 --> 00:25:26,680
Speaker 1: was about to like attack her. Wendy said, standing your truth,

449
00:25:26,840 --> 00:25:29,720
Speaker 1: standing your truth, and Robin stood up and said, I'm

450
00:25:29,840 --> 00:25:32,440
Speaker 1: standing in my truth. That's why she stood up. It

451
00:25:32,520 --> 00:25:35,560
Speaker 1: wasn't like she stood up because she was going to

452
00:25:35,680 --> 00:25:38,119
Speaker 1: be aggressive towards her. She stood up because when he

453
00:25:38,200 --> 00:25:40,480
Speaker 1: told her to stand up, Whendy also told her to

454
00:25:40,560 --> 00:25:44,199
Speaker 1: sit down. She sat down. So it was not an

455
00:25:44,200 --> 00:25:47,480
Speaker 1: aggressive situation. Everyone. I'm the only one that got up

456
00:25:47,480 --> 00:25:49,520
Speaker 1: and I'm gonna be very honest. Well, she got up.

457
00:25:49,920 --> 00:25:52,720
Speaker 1: I'm from New Jersey, Carlos So in New Jersey. It's

458
00:25:52,800 --> 00:25:55,320
Speaker 1: just a natural instinct that when somebody gets up, you

459
00:25:55,400 --> 00:25:58,240
Speaker 1: see something's gonna happen. Okay, I will be very honest

460
00:25:58,280 --> 00:26:01,280
Speaker 1: about that part. So I got up and I said,

461
00:26:01,320 --> 00:26:04,639
Speaker 1: you know, sit down, you know, like that, and I

462
00:26:05,080 --> 00:26:07,240
Speaker 1: when she asked me the question and I said no.

463
00:26:08,040 --> 00:26:10,639
Speaker 1: I also said a whole lot of other stuff because

464
00:26:11,280 --> 00:26:13,840
Speaker 1: the thing was, after a while, I'm standing there and

465
00:26:13,880 --> 00:26:16,040
Speaker 1: I'm like, why am I standing here? Because I felt

466
00:26:16,080 --> 00:26:17,920
Speaker 1: stupid because I'm standing there, but they're going back and

467
00:26:18,000 --> 00:26:20,200
Speaker 1: forth and I'm in the middle. Like in my head,

468
00:26:20,240 --> 00:26:22,040
Speaker 1: I'm thinking, how do I sit back down? You know?

469
00:26:22,240 --> 00:26:27,440
Speaker 1: But it wasn't a threatening situation. I didn't hold her back,

470
00:26:28,000 --> 00:26:31,440
Speaker 1: she wasn't going to fight her, and was just saying,

471
00:26:31,440 --> 00:26:34,600
Speaker 1: we're yelling and arguing, and I just you know, but

472
00:26:34,840 --> 00:26:38,200
Speaker 1: our theme was supposed to be about women's empowerment. Believe

473
00:26:38,200 --> 00:26:40,520
Speaker 1: it or not, We're supposed to be empowering each other.

474
00:26:40,600 --> 00:26:43,560
Speaker 1: That was supposed to be like an empowering trip. So we.

475
00:26:45,960 --> 00:26:49,399
Speaker 3: Right, there's a lot of art, there's a lot of

476
00:26:49,560 --> 00:26:51,360
Speaker 3: there's a lot of things to say about the real

477
00:26:51,680 --> 00:26:52,439
Speaker 3: possible tollement.

478
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Speaker 2: I don't think empowerment comes.

479
00:26:55,920 --> 00:27:03,600
Speaker 1: It's not, but we're trying to get there. So it

480
00:27:03,760 --> 00:27:06,520
Speaker 1: was simple. I just wanted her to sit down, let's

481
00:27:06,800 --> 00:27:10,399
Speaker 1: talk civilized to one another. You know. That's what I

482
00:27:10,680 --> 00:27:13,440
Speaker 1: was doing now. Honestly, I don't even remember putting my

483
00:27:13,520 --> 00:27:15,720
Speaker 1: hands up to tell her to sit back. So when

484
00:27:15,720 --> 00:27:18,680
Speaker 1: she asked a question, Honestly, I don't even remember doing that.

485
00:27:19,000 --> 00:27:23,040
Speaker 1: I just remember standing in the middle to keep them

486
00:27:23,080 --> 00:27:25,440
Speaker 1: from getting close to each other. That's my whole point,

487
00:27:25,680 --> 00:27:29,520
Speaker 1: and I wouldn't wanted to diffuse the situation, you know, chill,

488
00:27:29,640 --> 00:27:32,640
Speaker 1: let's talk. Since I've been like when I came back,

489
00:27:33,080 --> 00:27:37,240
Speaker 1: I'm gonna be honest with you, it seemed like most

490
00:27:37,280 --> 00:27:41,080
Speaker 1: of them didn't like Wendy okay, and I'm going around

491
00:27:41,240 --> 00:27:45,040
Speaker 1: trying to make people like her like I think she's

492
00:27:45,080 --> 00:27:48,040
Speaker 1: an amazing woman. I mean, she brings a lot to

493
00:27:48,160 --> 00:27:53,040
Speaker 1: the show. She's I was very team Wendy when she

494
00:27:53,160 --> 00:27:56,680
Speaker 1: came in with all the degrees that she has, first

495
00:27:56,800 --> 00:28:00,159
Speaker 1: African and the Housewives franchise, you know, so I'm out

496
00:28:00,200 --> 00:28:02,680
Speaker 1: of all of that stuff. We got a huge following

497
00:28:02,720 --> 00:28:05,960
Speaker 1: in the African community. So I'm super proud of Wendy.

498
00:28:07,160 --> 00:28:10,920
Speaker 1: I the only thing with Wendy, honestly, and I actually

499
00:28:11,000 --> 00:28:13,399
Speaker 1: told her this myself when she asked my opinion. I

500
00:28:13,680 --> 00:28:16,560
Speaker 1: told her I wanted her to be that. I was

501
00:28:16,680 --> 00:28:20,639
Speaker 1: hoping she would be the person who, like didn't have

502
00:28:20,840 --> 00:28:23,200
Speaker 1: to get all, you know, all this all the time,

503
00:28:23,480 --> 00:28:25,240
Speaker 1: that she would just say shit that we would have

504
00:28:25,320 --> 00:28:29,600
Speaker 1: to google, you know, because she's that bad bitch. That's

505
00:28:29,680 --> 00:28:31,960
Speaker 1: what I want her to be. You know, I don't

506
00:28:32,000 --> 00:28:35,879
Speaker 1: know if you know Michael Dyson, you.

507
00:28:35,880 --> 00:28:39,760
Speaker 2: Know Michaeltely now like him.

508
00:28:40,040 --> 00:28:41,880
Speaker 1: I could be in a conversation with Michael and he

509
00:28:41,960 --> 00:28:43,960
Speaker 1: don't know. I'll be writing stuff down in my notes

510
00:28:44,120 --> 00:28:45,720
Speaker 1: because I don't know what the fuck he's talking about,

511
00:28:45,840 --> 00:28:47,840
Speaker 1: and I got to google it. That's where I'm the

512
00:28:48,200 --> 00:28:51,600
Speaker 1: concept I'm getting with with Wendy, Like you should be

513
00:28:51,680 --> 00:28:54,920
Speaker 1: able to cut women up with your words, you know,

514
00:28:55,680 --> 00:28:57,720
Speaker 1: take them back to school. They don't even know what

515
00:28:57,760 --> 00:29:02,920
Speaker 1: the hell you're talking about. That's what I was hoping,

516
00:29:03,400 --> 00:29:06,640
Speaker 1: and it just ends up like they're always fighting, and

517
00:29:06,720 --> 00:29:11,000
Speaker 1: then her Robin kept fighting, and actually Robn really liked

518
00:29:11,040 --> 00:29:13,520
Speaker 1: Wendy at one point, like really liked her. And this

519
00:29:13,720 --> 00:29:16,000
Speaker 1: is I wasn't even on the show. Robin used to

520
00:29:16,120 --> 00:29:18,000
Speaker 1: talk to me about Wendy. This is how I know

521
00:29:18,560 --> 00:29:21,560
Speaker 1: she really liked her as a person. You know. So,

522
00:29:22,760 --> 00:29:25,560
Speaker 1: and I had a conversation with Windy and I'm like saying, y'all,

523
00:29:25,600 --> 00:29:30,240
Speaker 1: me just just listen. No one's listening. Everyone's yelling, nobody's listening.

524
00:29:30,600 --> 00:29:34,880
Speaker 1: But they're out. They're both two amazing women. Hope they

525
00:29:34,960 --> 00:29:36,760
Speaker 1: work it out. Good luck with that. I don't know

526
00:29:36,840 --> 00:29:39,320
Speaker 1: if it'll happen, but stay two.

527
00:29:40,320 --> 00:29:43,480
Speaker 2: State, no, stay tuned.

528
00:29:43,520 --> 00:29:43,720
Speaker 4: It is.

529
00:29:44,600 --> 00:29:48,840
Speaker 3: Wendy was on my podcast and a lot of people

530
00:29:49,040 --> 00:29:52,680
Speaker 3: myself included at one point, and she of course defending

531
00:29:52,720 --> 00:29:56,400
Speaker 3: herself and made realize, okay, I announ see when's point

532
00:29:56,400 --> 00:29:59,719
Speaker 3: of view. But a lot of people felt that Wendy

533
00:30:00,120 --> 00:30:04,920
Speaker 3: has changed, and to what you're saying, they wanted her

534
00:30:05,040 --> 00:30:09,240
Speaker 3: to rise above the what the other women were providing,

535
00:30:09,320 --> 00:30:13,200
Speaker 3: which was you know, a read and things of that nature.

536
00:30:13,720 --> 00:30:15,760
Speaker 2: And they feel like they don't know who Wendy is.

537
00:30:16,560 --> 00:30:19,560
Speaker 3: You actually are with these ladies on a day to

538
00:30:19,640 --> 00:30:21,920
Speaker 3: day basis, so you see more of their side than

539
00:30:22,000 --> 00:30:22,240
Speaker 3: we do.

540
00:30:23,160 --> 00:30:28,680
Speaker 2: Do you feel like we are getting the authentic Wendy.

541
00:30:29,640 --> 00:30:32,120
Speaker 1: You know what. To be honest with you, I learned

542
00:30:32,200 --> 00:30:34,840
Speaker 1: something about her after listening to her on your show,

543
00:30:35,320 --> 00:30:39,160
Speaker 1: like her living in the shadow of her mom and

544
00:30:39,280 --> 00:30:43,360
Speaker 1: trying to be that typical African because you know, Africans

545
00:30:43,400 --> 00:30:45,239
Speaker 1: are like you're going to be a doctor, You're going

546
00:30:45,320 --> 00:30:47,120
Speaker 1: to be an engineer, you're going to be a lawyer.

547
00:30:47,920 --> 00:30:50,880
Speaker 1: They already know, you know. So just you know, her

548
00:30:51,080 --> 00:30:54,000
Speaker 1: trying to live her life to please her mother and

549
00:30:54,200 --> 00:30:57,840
Speaker 1: instead and finally she's stepping out being who she want

550
00:30:57,920 --> 00:31:00,960
Speaker 1: to be. So for me, honestly, thank you, Carlos, because

551
00:31:01,520 --> 00:31:03,960
Speaker 1: I learned something about her that I didn't know, but

552
00:31:04,080 --> 00:31:07,600
Speaker 1: I understand it, you know. And I think that that's

553
00:31:07,640 --> 00:31:10,320
Speaker 1: where when I say the communication with the ladies come

554
00:31:10,360 --> 00:31:14,120
Speaker 1: in communicate about that, like let's talk, let's be real,

555
00:31:14,240 --> 00:31:17,000
Speaker 1: let's be authentic, let's be our authentic self. I think

556
00:31:17,040 --> 00:31:21,760
Speaker 1: sometimes with the cameras get in the way. Honestly, it's

557
00:31:21,800 --> 00:31:24,520
Speaker 1: an amazing cast. Every single one of them, even the

558
00:31:24,600 --> 00:31:28,880
Speaker 1: one that doesn't like me, is amazing and has a

559
00:31:29,080 --> 00:31:31,360
Speaker 1: rightful place on the show. They've done a great job.

560
00:31:31,440 --> 00:31:33,480
Speaker 1: I'm so proud I did a good job picking most

561
00:31:33,520 --> 00:31:41,640
Speaker 1: of them. Just be something on another show, but everyone

562
00:31:42,040 --> 00:31:45,160
Speaker 1: has their role. I think each of them are phenomenal

563
00:31:45,280 --> 00:31:48,480
Speaker 1: in their own way when I came. When I left

564
00:31:48,760 --> 00:31:50,520
Speaker 1: the show, I think, you know, like I told you,

565
00:31:50,600 --> 00:31:53,480
Speaker 1: I didn't know anything about reality TV, and I think

566
00:31:53,560 --> 00:31:55,240
Speaker 1: when I left, I was probably if you put it

567
00:31:55,320 --> 00:31:57,400
Speaker 1: in a great school type of situation, I was like

568
00:31:57,480 --> 00:31:59,920
Speaker 1: in fifth grade when I left, and when I came back,

569
00:32:00,400 --> 00:32:03,720
Speaker 1: these pitches are in college and I'm like, what the hell,

570
00:32:04,800 --> 00:32:08,480
Speaker 1: It's amazing. Everyone's amazing, and they know their craft and

571
00:32:08,480 --> 00:32:10,440
Speaker 1: they're doing a great job, and I'm proud to just

572
00:32:10,920 --> 00:32:13,480
Speaker 1: witness the growth of all of them.

573
00:32:13,960 --> 00:32:14,760
Speaker 2: No, it's a great show.

574
00:32:14,760 --> 00:32:17,280
Speaker 3: It's my favorite housewives that in Beverly Hills, and of

575
00:32:17,320 --> 00:32:18,760
Speaker 3: course Atlanta will.

576
00:32:20,400 --> 00:32:21,080
Speaker 2: Yes. Of course.

577
00:32:21,480 --> 00:32:24,560
Speaker 3: So with that being said, though, would you ever consider

578
00:32:24,760 --> 00:32:27,280
Speaker 3: going back to Potomac as a full time housewife?

579
00:32:27,800 --> 00:32:30,560
Speaker 1: I mean, first of all, like I just said, not,

580
00:32:30,720 --> 00:32:32,160
Speaker 1: and I mean that's in the bottom of my heart.

581
00:32:32,480 --> 00:32:34,440
Speaker 1: If I had to pick somebody to leave off of

582
00:32:34,520 --> 00:32:37,640
Speaker 1: that show, I wouldn't be able to, you know, I

583
00:32:37,680 --> 00:32:40,040
Speaker 1: wouldn't be able to pick someone to leave. So I

584
00:32:40,120 --> 00:32:41,800
Speaker 1: think in order for me to come, somebody would have

585
00:32:41,880 --> 00:32:44,600
Speaker 1: to go. I don't think they want eight housewives. But

586
00:32:45,360 --> 00:32:50,920
Speaker 1: I really it's a good it's a good situation like it.

587
00:32:51,400 --> 00:32:55,840
Speaker 1: You know, if it's not broke, don't fix it. Okay, Okay,

588
00:32:56,240 --> 00:32:59,560
Speaker 1: I mean I love the idea of being a housewife again,

589
00:33:00,440 --> 00:33:03,720
Speaker 1: I'll say that, but I do I honestly, I'll be

590
00:33:03,880 --> 00:33:07,520
Speaker 1: very honest. When I was on, I fell so far

591
00:33:07,640 --> 00:33:11,080
Speaker 1: behind the eight ball, you know, and it took me

592
00:33:11,200 --> 00:33:15,760
Speaker 1: a while to catch up to it. And I'm still

593
00:33:15,840 --> 00:33:17,480
Speaker 1: like now, I think I'm in high school and they

594
00:33:17,520 --> 00:33:24,479
Speaker 1: about to graduate college. I'm trying to catch up.

595
00:33:27,800 --> 00:33:30,680
Speaker 3: Well, we'll see how the rest of the season pans

596
00:33:30,760 --> 00:33:33,960
Speaker 3: out with your appearance and listen before I'll let you go,

597
00:33:34,160 --> 00:33:38,440
Speaker 3: because you are in OG, you also cast the show.

598
00:33:39,960 --> 00:33:44,200
Speaker 3: If you had to cast season eight of the Real

599
00:33:44,280 --> 00:33:49,320
Speaker 3: Housewives of Potomac, who would you like to be a

600
00:33:49,440 --> 00:33:50,400
Speaker 3: part of the cast?

601
00:33:50,920 --> 00:33:54,360
Speaker 2: Old Housewives and current Housewives?

602
00:33:55,360 --> 00:33:59,560
Speaker 1: Old, old Housewives and current I think that it.

603
00:33:59,640 --> 00:34:00,400
Speaker 2: Was your five.

604
00:34:01,080 --> 00:34:04,080
Speaker 3: It has to be five five Potomac Housewives to be

605
00:34:04,200 --> 00:34:04,880
Speaker 3: on season eight.

606
00:34:05,480 --> 00:34:09,799
Speaker 1: Okay, Oh wow, that's a hard one, Carlos. I love

607
00:34:09,920 --> 00:34:15,200
Speaker 1: all of them. I like the Ogs first of all,

608
00:34:15,480 --> 00:34:19,400
Speaker 1: so I'm like, I'm gonna go with that first. Gez

609
00:34:19,719 --> 00:34:22,280
Speaker 1: the originals just to be safe.

610
00:34:22,880 --> 00:34:27,719
Speaker 3: So Charise, Giselle, Robin, Karen, Katie, and Ashley.

611
00:34:28,640 --> 00:34:30,959
Speaker 1: Yeah, but I love I love all the new ones,

612
00:34:31,360 --> 00:34:34,040
Speaker 1: trust me, I swear to you, I love all of them.

613
00:34:34,600 --> 00:34:38,320
Speaker 3: Okay, So Charis, what can we expect from you for

614
00:34:38,440 --> 00:34:40,120
Speaker 3: the rest of the season of Potomac?

615
00:34:41,680 --> 00:34:44,680
Speaker 1: Well, you know, the focus is it. I'm not a housewife,

616
00:34:44,760 --> 00:34:48,400
Speaker 1: so there's no focus on my personal story or anything

617
00:34:48,560 --> 00:34:50,600
Speaker 1: like that. I was hoping I was going to be

618
00:34:50,640 --> 00:34:53,320
Speaker 1: able to host some relevance, but we didn't get to

619
00:34:53,360 --> 00:34:53,560
Speaker 1: do that.

620
00:34:55,160 --> 00:34:57,840
Speaker 3: Why didn't you buy the girls that Tina knows Lost

621
00:34:57,920 --> 00:34:58,799
Speaker 3: and Wearable art?

622
00:34:58,800 --> 00:34:59,160
Speaker 2: Golla?

623
00:35:00,040 --> 00:35:02,440
Speaker 1: Thought about it? I thought about it maybe next year.

624
00:35:03,400 --> 00:35:04,560
Speaker 2: How much does it cost to go?

625
00:35:05,840 --> 00:35:10,440
Speaker 1: Well, the lowest ticket is like thirty five thousand dollars, No,

626
00:35:10,600 --> 00:35:11,880
Speaker 1: one hundred, one hundred.

627
00:35:12,160 --> 00:35:15,880
Speaker 2: Thirty five hundred. Yeah, and how much was your ticket?

628
00:35:16,239 --> 00:35:19,840
Speaker 1: Thirty five hundred okay, Yeah, but I was at a

629
00:35:19,920 --> 00:35:21,280
Speaker 1: fifty thousand dollars table.

630
00:35:24,080 --> 00:35:31,400
Speaker 2: You got your caring on. I'm teasing, that's.

631
00:35:31,280 --> 00:35:34,200
Speaker 1: A great that's a great event. I'm going to get

632
00:35:34,200 --> 00:35:35,080
Speaker 1: a table next year.

633
00:35:36,080 --> 00:35:38,600
Speaker 2: Ooh, here we go Season A.

634
00:35:39,080 --> 00:35:42,759
Speaker 3: All right, ses, Well, where can the reality with the

635
00:35:42,920 --> 00:35:47,560
Speaker 3: King listeners, my brain drop, follow you, support you and

636
00:35:47,680 --> 00:35:48,440
Speaker 3: all that good stuff.

637
00:35:48,680 --> 00:35:52,280
Speaker 1: All right, I suck at social media and I'm promising

638
00:35:52,440 --> 00:35:56,080
Speaker 1: to get better this year. But one the number one

639
00:35:56,640 --> 00:36:00,880
Speaker 1: trees cha r R I s SE is my Instagram.

640
00:36:01,080 --> 00:36:04,480
Speaker 1: And then I'm sureis Jackson joining on Twitter. And I'm

641
00:36:04,560 --> 00:36:05,880
Speaker 1: going to be doing a podcast.

642
00:36:07,200 --> 00:36:10,520
Speaker 2: Congratulations, welcome to the podcast world.

643
00:36:11,800 --> 00:36:13,359
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, I'm working on that now.

644
00:36:13,840 --> 00:36:16,040
Speaker 3: Well, make sure when you launch it, you come back

645
00:36:16,080 --> 00:36:19,360
Speaker 3: on here so we can talk about whatever it is

646
00:36:19,520 --> 00:36:23,560
Speaker 3: that you and the Grandame are going through, because yeah,

647
00:36:23,640 --> 00:36:25,520
Speaker 3: we gotta dig deep with that too, baby.

648
00:36:25,440 --> 00:36:27,799
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, we gotta. Well, when you figure it out,

649
00:36:27,840 --> 00:36:31,120
Speaker 1: you let me know it out.

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Speaker 2: Well. Thank you, Chares, I love you and I'll see

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Speaker 2: you more.

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Speaker 3: Every Sunday, eight o'clock on Bravo, The Real Housewives of Atomac.

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Speaker 3: Thank you, thank you, baby, I love you some. Charise

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Speaker 3: Charies is like that old school auntie who got so

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Speaker 3: much money and so much wealth and so much shame,

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Speaker 3: and she does it in such a funny, classy way.

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Speaker 3: I can talk to this thing all day long. I

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Speaker 3: love miss things. She's everything to me.

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Speaker 2: So I want to hear from you, though.

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Speaker 3: Let me know your thoughts on the conversation and if

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Speaker 3: you feel like Charies is onto something when it comes

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Speaker 3: to well, Hurt and Karen are going to go through

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