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Speaker 1: World Headquarters at the Star. Now your hosts Barry Church,
Speaker 1: Danny McCrae, Hecma Harrison, and Newie Scruggs.
Speaker 3: Players Lounge here on a Monday. Lots to talk about.
Speaker 3: I'm happy to be back.
Speaker 4: To say, how you been? Man? Where's this guy? Geez?
Speaker 4: Been following a winner?
Speaker 2: Just one early shot?
Speaker 4: Showers, right, shoot down? They got to do.
Speaker 3: They got to do Astros in the house. You know,
Speaker 3: been going to Arizona and doing you.
Speaker 4: Know, Instro smacked them in their house too.
Speaker 3: Okay, somebody went home and somebody went hold with a championship.
Speaker 4: Were you at the paride? Yeah? How was that? Thanks
Speaker 4: for watching? I tell you you, Negro, thanks for what? Yes,
Speaker 4: you and a half. I was on that but golfing.
Speaker 4: We was on the players line, on the players line,
Speaker 4: I ain't hard to find you knew where was the
Speaker 4: entire time. I didn't know where you was.
Speaker 3: Okay, I had to get some signals. You was in
Speaker 3: the cage somewhere. You can't tell me.
Speaker 4: But I knew where I was was. That was crazy.
Speaker 4: It was a crazy, man, it was. It was good.
Speaker 3: They deserve, man, they deserved that. I was very happy
Speaker 3: for the city and the players, and they came out
Speaker 3: there deep man, it was.
Speaker 4: I got in there a little bit before nine o'clock.
Speaker 3: Man, you had folks already lined up in these streets
Speaker 3: deep and those porter parties they didn't have enough. Man,
Speaker 3: I've never seen nothing like that.
Speaker 4: Man, it was it was. It was bad stuff. Were
Speaker 4: you here for the for the nineties? You here? Okay?
Speaker 2: I did not compared though we had the city on lock,
Speaker 2: the Mavericks, the math that was in the city was
Speaker 2: locked up like they was gonna do it again. Huh.
Speaker 4: Who knew? Who knew? Thought we were selling right now?
Speaker 2: I had a full headline to me too, Me.
Speaker 4: Too, mustang.
Speaker 3: I got photos different times, man, it was.
Speaker 4: It was different times. Yes, Church twenty four hour. I'm
Speaker 4: so touchy right now listening to your boy. That's all
Speaker 4: let's happen.
Speaker 3: Let's go rive marryacked my Harrison, Danny Cray.
Speaker 4: I knew I wasn't here for the picks on Friday,
Speaker 4: So how did it all go?
Speaker 2: I switched my pick from Philly to Dallas. Why you
Speaker 2: switch your pick? I let him make me feel guilty
Speaker 2: about not picking the Cowboy. Why I let him do
Speaker 2: that to me? He always I'm going to get his boys,
Speaker 2: his boys. I should have just picked the Eagles, like
Speaker 2: I thought I was going Cowboys Philly. I think I
Speaker 2: picked the correct score. No, No, twenty eight, twenty four?
Speaker 2: You said, who was a score twenty three?
Speaker 4: I just listen to yours, to your boy, you was
Speaker 4: out there, just.
Speaker 2: Listen to your I was so fissed off about that,
Speaker 2: I said, And he gonna pick the damn didn't.
Speaker 5: He's gonna go through it all. But you talk about
Speaker 5: for least SECONDARY told him they was gettable.
Speaker 4: That's legs. I said, Man, just let's go. Let's go. Man,
Speaker 4: I'm tired of being negro domas out there. Let me go.
Speaker 6: I took let me go shout out to Correculates. But
Speaker 6: but I'm sticking with my mind that come on, man,
Speaker 6: come on, you said, I put.
Speaker 4: My case together to I'm leading the witness and all that.
Speaker 2: Man, your boys, your boys, your boys. I just felt
Speaker 2: like I had to be you know, I had the
Speaker 2: Cowboys back. But yeah, you know it ain't nothing that's okay, man,
Speaker 2: They almost swayed me though he was he was working,
Speaker 2: he was cooking. He was definitely cooking. One at a time,
Speaker 2: one at a time. You lost me. I'm done. I'm
Speaker 2: not listening to you. I ain't done with the cowboy.
Speaker 3: In the pre pre preseason picks, okay, before he made
Speaker 3: our just way back, he went ar Chives over there.
Speaker 4: He in trouble. Everybody had a loss. So what happened.
Speaker 3: Everybody has a loss as we did the pre pre picks.
Speaker 4: Everybody had that as a loss. Let me tell you
Speaker 4: what happened to me. I started off this way.
Speaker 2: I thought that they was going to involve my man
Speaker 2: Cooks in the game because he's been a difference maker
Speaker 2: in the last two And I said, hey, man, if
Speaker 2: they come out and they run the offense through Cooks,
Speaker 2: Seedy Lamb and Dak Prescott, we'll win the game.
Speaker 4: That's what I thought. I said.
Speaker 2: Davonte Smith was not gonna have it as good of
Speaker 2: a game as Brandon Cooks, okay. And he went out
Speaker 2: there and got two targets. Now DeVante went out there
Speaker 2: and got a touch down. He didn't had too many catches,
Speaker 2: but too.
Speaker 4: Two two targets one catch seven yards too. He at
Speaker 4: the bottom of the list on targets.
Speaker 2: Bottom. Wait, stop bottom. It don't make sense. It don't
Speaker 2: make sense. So you know, I mean, if you want
Speaker 2: to keep doing that, Dack had a good game, all
Speaker 2: this sudden stuff. If you don't get your weapons involved
Speaker 2: in the game, it's gonna be a lot harder for
Speaker 2: you to make those players when they count. And you
Speaker 2: found yourself, We'll get to you find yourself in some trouble.
Speaker 2: A pickle. That's a pickle, man. You know what I'm
Speaker 2: more than anything, man, I'm just ticked. I'm just ticked
Speaker 2: off about when you have your opportunities to win this game.
Speaker 2: When you come out, you're seventeen to fourteen lead, then
Speaker 2: the third quarter you come out and it's like, what
Speaker 2: did you think was gonna happen? Was that some news
Speaker 2: that maybe you wasn't going to be going against jaylen
Speaker 2: Hurst in the second half?
Speaker 4: Did you did you let your guard down? Was this
Speaker 4: something happening? Was that something happen? Because the third quarter
Speaker 4: belonged to the Philadelphia Eagles.
Speaker 2: After building up all that good will, after battling back
Speaker 2: and forth to finally get the lead, that third quarter
Speaker 2: I thought was defining. Everybody talks about those last couple drives,
Speaker 2: and I think they had something to do with it.
Speaker 2: I think the execution down the down the road from
Speaker 2: a coaching schematic standpoint, had something to do with it.
Speaker 2: But the third quarter, to me, it dictated the whole
Speaker 2: rest of the ball game because you let them just
Speaker 2: have long drives that just consider this sealed.
Speaker 5: The deal to me, you know, and like I said,
Speaker 5: we'll die boo, No, I'm sure we'll die. But to me,
Speaker 5: the whole thing came down to the second half was adjustments.
Speaker 5: I mean, you look at it. What did we talk
Speaker 5: about during the week leading up. We don't want a
Speaker 5: Chas Green incident happening against that vaunted Eagles defensive line.
Speaker 5: We sat here and talked about it. If they're getting
Speaker 5: beat up out there, get your man some help. And
Speaker 5: what ended up happening towards that last driving. Pretty much
Speaker 5: the entire second half, our boy Terrence still was getting
Speaker 5: beat like.
Speaker 4: A drum out there.
Speaker 5: And I only saw maybe two occasions where they put
Speaker 5: a back over there to chip or somebody over there
Speaker 5: to help out. For the most part, man, he was
Speaker 5: just getting beat down like a drum and I understand.
Speaker 4: You know, you gave that man money.
Speaker 5: You expect him to, you know, be one of those
Speaker 5: upper echelon right tackles out there. But if you see
Speaker 5: him getting beat like that consistently, you gotta get that
Speaker 5: man some help. So that was one of the things
Speaker 5: that just kind of stood out to me in the
Speaker 5: second half offensively, defensively, what's going on?
Speaker 4: They didn't have an answer. They didn't have an answer.
Speaker 5: They didn't make that Philadelphia Eagles team one dimensional at all.
Speaker 5: You know, either throw the ball or you're gonna run
Speaker 5: the ball, but you can't do both. And we saw
Speaker 5: what the Eagles were able to do. You know, they
Speaker 5: were able to run that ball. Might not have been
Speaker 5: huge numbers, but it kept that defense honest. You couldn't
Speaker 5: just be like, oh man, we can't just leave for
Speaker 5: in a box because they can still have the ability
Speaker 5: to run. And then the passing game, say what you want,
Speaker 5: but that man hurts something. He was making some dimes
Speaker 5: out there. He was dropping some serious dimes out there.
Speaker 5: So we'll get into a little bit more, but to me,
Speaker 5: it's just the adjustments on both sides of the ball
Speaker 5: in the second half just weren't there.
Speaker 4: I'll tell you this.
Speaker 2: Turn on the tape, okay, and watch our D line.
Speaker 2: That's our Watch the D line. You want to figure
Speaker 2: out what happened in the run game? You know who
Speaker 2: if the D line and the linebacker's lap, so they
Speaker 2: can't figure out what watch it. It's the same thing
Speaker 2: that do you have a number? I'm not giving up.
Speaker 2: Look at both, no not, just look at both the
Speaker 2: interior defensive line and on the player and see and
Speaker 2: if you looking and seeing what gap they're supposed to
Speaker 2: be in, are they getting reached or they getting pushed
Speaker 2: back into the linebackers lap. You watch it and see
Speaker 2: if it happens consistently, and I'll tell you yes, it does, Yes,
Speaker 2: it does.
Speaker 4: So when you talk about like hey man, hey, how
Speaker 4: the linebacker's gonna play? Are they free? Can they shoot?
Speaker 2: They guess they can't because they get pushed back in
Speaker 2: they leapt. So just it's just a consistent thing to
Speaker 2: just keep on happening. We've been talking about this for years,
Speaker 2: right Newly while we were talking about yeah, yeah, we
Speaker 2: ain't wear about no no, no, no, no no, we
Speaker 2: worried about it. Okay, were worried about it. We went
Speaker 2: out there and got one in the first round, and
Speaker 2: we're looking for a difference maker. We even talked about
Speaker 2: when the trade deadline was coming, what position do we
Speaker 2: think is the most important for you to get in it?
Speaker 4: Across the bus deepest line. This ain't happened. This ain't happened.
Speaker 2: But I'm still I'm never gonna stop talking about the
Speaker 2: Brandon Cookster. With all that, I don't care. All right,
Speaker 2: you still had a shot, and you got some big
Speaker 2: time playmakers on your squad, and you cannot figure out
Speaker 2: a way to get him involved in the game. Rather
Speaker 2: give it to Jaylen Tobert Schoolmaker, rarely give it to
Speaker 2: school Maker. You got a dude out here a thousand
Speaker 2: yards with every team you're gonna I got so tired
Speaker 2: of watching that dude run off the ball full speed,
Speaker 2: knowing that he knew he wasn't getting the ball.
Speaker 4: He's the dummy Rocks. Take the top off, because we
Speaker 4: need this to be open.
Speaker 2: Underneath was his first target to what the fourth us
Speaker 2: to the fourth of the third on the comeback, and
Speaker 2: it float over his head because that was underpressure.
Speaker 4: Take the top off. See he come underneath back. I
Speaker 4: just don't.
Speaker 2: I just I don't understand you got any respect for
Speaker 2: your player like that, you go find a way to
Speaker 2: give him the football.
Speaker 3: Yeah, So just Cooks needed to do what Seedee Lamb
Speaker 3: did a couple weeks ago and say something.
Speaker 4: Man, I don't know if it'll do him any good
Speaker 4: at this point.
Speaker 2: At this point, I think they just said they're not
Speaker 2: even looking at him, Dak not even turning his way.
Speaker 2: And on the fourth and one that you're talking about,
Speaker 2: if you turn it and again, there's so much to
Speaker 2: diagnose just from a pressure aspect, because Dak has pressure
Speaker 2: coming right in his face right there. But you see
Speaker 2: Brandon wide open. And that's the one thing about Brandon
Speaker 2: Cooks that I mean, I've been on him. I've been
Speaker 2: talking about from the beginning of the other season. Man,
Speaker 2: while we're not using Brandon Cooks, he's not doing what
Speaker 2: we thought he was gonna do.
Speaker 4: Well, you can't. He's not gonna do what you thought
Speaker 4: he was gonna do.
Speaker 2: If you're not even looking his way, you ain't even
Speaker 2: trying to get him the ball. And I'm sorry, Michael
Speaker 2: gallab if look, if you're gonna drop the ball, if
Speaker 2: you're gonna miss your opportunities, granted he came back and
Speaker 2: caught some hell of the balls in double coverage tight,
Speaker 2: you know, but then when we need you to make
Speaker 2: a play, it's not there. We're not our playmakers. I'm sorry.
Speaker 2: I look over it on the other side from Philadelphia,
Speaker 2: and I look at a guy like Kenneth game Well,
Speaker 2: Ken game Kenned Gamewell. All of a sudden, we are
Speaker 2: Kenneth Gainwell sighting. He's jumping into the end zone. The
Speaker 2: running game is all these things are popping for guys
Speaker 2: that you would think, Oh man, their careers are passing.
Speaker 2: Come on, now, come on now, all of a sudden,
Speaker 2: Kenned Gatewell find ways to make plays.
Speaker 4: Man, I guys can't make plays. What's what's this grin
Speaker 4: for you? Just like listening to you, Just like listen
Speaker 4: to It's been so long. I just enjoyed it.
Speaker 2: No, no, okay, well let me keep going there because
Speaker 2: let me ask because I don't I don't play I
Speaker 2: don't play quarterback, Okay, so I don't want to get
Speaker 2: out here and judge the quarterback. I'm just thinking of
Speaker 2: my mindset, okay. On fourth down, gotta have it. Mojo moment,
Speaker 2: Mojoe moment.
Speaker 4: Gotta have it, gotta have it.
Speaker 2: I line up in my offense, lines up in two
Speaker 2: by two to the left, I got a first year
Speaker 2: guy tight end and the second year tight end to
Speaker 2: the right, I got Brandon Cooks and CD Lamb.
Speaker 4: Which side am I looking at? You already know you
Speaker 4: go to CD. What side am I looking as? I'm
Speaker 4: not a quarterback.
Speaker 2: I'm just saying I got I got two veteran guys
Speaker 2: out here running pick routes and two young guys out
Speaker 2: here running pick routes. I'm looking at the veteran veteran
Speaker 2: guys first. I'm just I'm just looking over there, and
Speaker 2: if you do, if you do, you're gonna see a
Speaker 2: dude wide opening it in zone with his hands up,
Speaker 2: the guy that got two targets in the game. Bigger
Speaker 2: question is right there, guys, did y'all even consider that
Speaker 2: on fourth and one, that that maybe you should have
Speaker 2: kicked the field goal?
Speaker 4: That that did that? Ever? Did that ever dawn on you?
Speaker 4: In the football says you? Guys.
Speaker 2: Look, we talked ex's and o's all the time. Y'all
Speaker 2: always talk about the message that the coaches sending to
Speaker 2: the defense and to the offense.
Speaker 4: By what they do or they don't do. What did that?
Speaker 4: What did that say to your defense?
Speaker 2: Is that saying to your defense that, man, we better
Speaker 2: get it now because we don't think we're gonna get
Speaker 2: it back or we're in.
Speaker 4: A shootout right now? Is that?
Speaker 2: What? Is that? What?
Speaker 4: That's what? That's what the I'm asking.
Speaker 2: This is second time that's had. But I happened earlier
Speaker 2: in the season when when we were talking, I forgot
Speaker 2: what game it was. We're like, okay, we're not We're
Speaker 2: gonna go for on fourth down and we're gonna pay
Speaker 2: for it. At the beginning of the game, we decided
Speaker 2: that it was going to be that type of game
Speaker 2: where you where you look over at our sideline and
Speaker 2: we go for it on fourth down multiple times, and
Speaker 2: you say, well, we figured it's gonna be one of
Speaker 2: them type of games, right your offen, your coaching staff
Speaker 2: decides that we're going to start risking it. These are
Speaker 2: big time moments. Were going for it on fourth down.
Speaker 2: They only can bleed into the second half, so I
Speaker 2: didn't expect them to start kicking field goals. Then you
Speaker 2: already put it in your mind and in your team's
Speaker 2: mind that we're going foot on fourth down. So now
Speaker 2: I'm expecting no field goal. Throw about the Brandon Cooks
Speaker 2: throw it to him. I was.
Speaker 3: I sat in the office and said, all right, kick
Speaker 3: the field goal, get your points, because at this point
Speaker 3: time in the game, ten minutes in the fourth quarter,
Speaker 3: felt like I felt like at that point in time,
Speaker 3: you still had time to go down and you know
Speaker 3: you had more opportunities.
Speaker 4: That was just my thought. But then our schoolmaker made
Speaker 4: the touchdown. Then you looked up, well, didn't make the touchdown.
Speaker 4: So yeah, that was my thought.
Speaker 3: Kick field goal. I'm that's my thought. But I'm normally
Speaker 3: gonna be that guy. This is the league now, everybody's
Speaker 3: been hanging out with your boy a like.
Speaker 4: Field goals are a bad thing.
Speaker 3: If your defense is what you think your defense is,
Speaker 3: and they played well enough, you're gonna get the ball
Speaker 3: back again.
Speaker 4: That's me.
Speaker 3: But this is an epidemic through college and pro football
Speaker 3: right now. We gotta go forward all day long. And
Speaker 3: why the big criticism of schoolmaker didn't run it deep
Speaker 3: en up.
Speaker 4: And then you have people pump it's a rookie.
Speaker 2: You've got two bets on opposite put it in his
Speaker 2: hands to not run if you're gonna go fun on
Speaker 2: fourth down and you're not gonna kick a field goal
Speaker 2: mojo moment. You got guys on your team who you
Speaker 2: know need to be trying to who have to touch
Speaker 2: the ball, and this and this. It happened multiple times
Speaker 2: this game, multiple times, and it happened previous games when
Speaker 2: you had Michael Gallup lined up at the extraceiver, when
Speaker 2: you got Cede Lamb and going forward and on fourth
Speaker 2: in the big time mojo moments, and you're not getting it.
Speaker 4: So let me ask this question.
Speaker 3: Putting that on the quarterback, putting it on a play call,
Speaker 3: where does the blame.
Speaker 4: Lie for Danny mccrant for which one you talking about?
Speaker 4: Schoolmaker ain't an lot to you. I'm putting that on
Speaker 4: the quarterback.
Speaker 2: I know as a quarterback who I got out there
Speaker 2: on the right, and I know that they are man.
Speaker 2: The man are pretty much zero coverage because you're on
Speaker 2: the goal line. Yeah, I know we running pick or
Speaker 2: I'm looking at the I'm looking at my star guy
Speaker 2: CD almost got two hundred yards of the game. I'm
Speaker 2: at least looking over there.
Speaker 4: At least you want some trust. Time proofing consists.
Speaker 2: Brandon Cooks, I know he know how to, I know
Speaker 2: he knows what he's doing, but I ain't look at
Speaker 2: them all games. So maybe that's why I'm gonna look
Speaker 2: over at the tight end. But me as a quarterback,
Speaker 2: who do I have faith then to make this play?
Speaker 2: I'm looking to the right at my at my at
Speaker 2: least in CD lamb. But you know he didn't And
Speaker 2: that's and and that's what it is. When he was
Speaker 2: an inch away from scoring, and so you know it's
Speaker 2: we splitting hairs there. But I'm still looking over there
Speaker 2: at my two veteran guys.
Speaker 4: Gentlemen, man inches, we know it's just about time. It's
Speaker 4: about time. Good run it.
Speaker 2: I want you to make it, Like do you have
Speaker 2: any anything like for why it didn't go that way?
Speaker 4: Like why that's on the quarterback?
Speaker 5: That's on the quarterback hundred percent, man, Because as a coordinator,
Speaker 5: you're gonna put it in the hot hands. And at
Speaker 5: that moment, Da Prescott was firing on all cylinders.
Speaker 4: He was rolling. So you, as a coordinator, you're gonna
Speaker 4: be like, you know what, I'm gonna roll with him.
Speaker 5: I'm gonna roll with him and think that this guy
Speaker 5: is gonna make the best decision for our team going forward,
Speaker 5: and what had happened, you know, like you just said,
Speaker 5: he looked to the side that wasn't ceedee lamb and
Speaker 5: and course. And so to me, that's on him because
Speaker 5: as a coordinator you can only put the call out
Speaker 5: there that you can't You can't tell him where to
Speaker 5: throw in all this, he's eight years, eight year in
Speaker 5: the NFL. You can't tell him where to go with
Speaker 5: the football. You gotta trust that that man is going
Speaker 5: to make the best decision for the team. Can I argue.
Speaker 4: If Schoonmaker runs it deeper in the end zone, it's
Speaker 4: a touchdown. I don't care if he scores this.
Speaker 2: This is what what you should be doing, not just
Speaker 2: in this game, but throughout the season when you get
Speaker 2: into those big time moments, is.
Speaker 4: Lean on your star players.
Speaker 2: If you lose the game by going to your star players,
Speaker 2: you lost the game by going to your star players.
Speaker 2: If you lose the game because you did it, then
Speaker 2: that makes you. That means you made a mistake. But
Speaker 2: the thing is, I mean, you're talking about the bottom
Speaker 2: line of it, and I agree with you. You go
Speaker 2: to your playmakers and the mojo moment the games on
Speaker 2: the line. You want to make sure that you give
Speaker 2: it to the guys that you know gonna make the players.
Speaker 2: There's no second guessing whether or not Ceedee Lamb or
Speaker 2: Brandon Cooks can make the play. You question whether Schoolmaker
Speaker 2: or Ferguson can make that play, but truthfully that he
Speaker 2: made the right decision based off of where the pressure was.
Speaker 2: But pressure, I'll be damn, I'm with you. This man
Speaker 2: is wide open right here. This is a it's a
Speaker 2: wide open Brandon Cooks in the end zone. It don't
Speaker 2: get no easy than that. If I'm going to school Maker,
Speaker 2: I'm thinking that he has the wherewithal dog?
Speaker 4: You you got it answer, bro?
Speaker 2: Just the thing is, that's just split like I'm not
Speaker 2: even that's splitting hairs, Bro. That is because of replay
Speaker 2: and how close you can get. That's here, that's here
Speaker 2: shouldn't even been in that situation. It's a good play.
Speaker 2: He made the catch. He came up short, you know,
Speaker 2: a couple of inches. I just wouldn't even look that way?
Speaker 5: Can I Can I tease the next segment because the
Speaker 5: play we got taken break we got teasing it.
Speaker 4: With all that.
Speaker 5: Being sife, this team still had an opportunity to win
Speaker 5: the game twenty five yard line, twenty seven seconds left.
Speaker 4: What do we think of the final drive? Here? Coming up?
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Speaker 4: Please last brought to you by Please come see me, please, Craig,
Speaker 4: Ma Harrison, Barry Church.
Speaker 3: I feel like there's a lot of frustration, dwelling and frustration.
Speaker 4: We go around here, but not me. Weekend for you,
Speaker 4: not me, not me, not me, not me? Got me
Speaker 4: pulling for l s U.
Speaker 2: You know she like to rub it in the only
Speaker 2: time he wanted text me at night time when he
Speaker 2: got something to say. This bad Nick Saban must be
Speaker 2: the greatest coach all time. I say, I ain't heard
Speaker 2: from the dude in two weeks. Won't text me.
Speaker 4: Heard from me? Since I can't get Haye Bryan? Seen
Speaker 4: you the how you doing? None of that? He Nick?
Speaker 4: Samean coach all the time? Nice hear from you?
Speaker 7: Do it?
Speaker 3: It's true, man, It's true. All right, Okay, you want
Speaker 3: to get into the final draft. I would love to
Speaker 3: hear just what do we think? Are you sitting on
Speaker 3: your horse over there?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 6: He did his hand subjects.
Speaker 4: What do y'all think we're only talking about the last round?
Speaker 5: I mean segments we did earlier in the season, the
Speaker 5: whole last drive, right, I mean I got nail bow drive,
Speaker 5: all the penalties in the sack. Whatever you want to go,
Speaker 5: wherever y'all want to go, because because who does it fall?
Speaker 5: That's why, who does it fall? For not getting the
Speaker 5: job done? Because from what I've been told in this
Speaker 5: very same podcast room, if you got that coordinator, and
Speaker 5: you got that quarterback and you got the ball, you
Speaker 5: should make something happen.
Speaker 4: Can I start? Go ahead? My brother? Okay.
Speaker 3: Sally Jenkins Washington Post were a very good column on
Speaker 3: Bill Belichick, and she says she talked to him about
Speaker 3: his philosophy, and when I read this last night after
Speaker 3: the game, like this explains why the Cowboys can't get
Speaker 3: it done, Bill said to her, the number one thing
Speaker 3: is unforced errors. It doesn't matter who you're playing. They
Speaker 3: don't even have to be out there. If you can't
Speaker 3: do things properly without resistance from an opponent, you're in trouble.
Speaker 4: Start with that.
Speaker 3: Once you eliminate things like penalties, turnovers, mental errors, you
Speaker 3: just go out there and get a play called and
Speaker 3: run it the way you're supposed to run. Until then,
Speaker 3: until you can do that, there's not much of a
Speaker 3: chance to win. The Cowboys consistently beat themselves. The head
Speaker 3: coaches at fault because you're sitting around here penalty city
Speaker 3: all day long, guys not reporting going and tear still
Speaker 3: needs help. You ain't helped to do it all day long.
Speaker 3: Quarterback deserves the damn blame here too. We're talking about
Speaker 3: where are you're going with the football. You're a part
Speaker 3: of the problem. Just like with Tony Romo. I always
Speaker 3: say Tony Romo wasn't the problem, but you're a part
Speaker 3: of the problem because you're around it. This stuff starts
Speaker 3: from the top down, and it's been this way for
Speaker 3: a long time since.
Speaker 4: I had here. But we've seen this operation.
Speaker 3: The same old stuff, the same old bull nine. Nah,
Speaker 3: what have you seen? You got the ball at the
Speaker 3: first and yeah, the ball of the sixth. Next thing
Speaker 3: you know is third and.
Speaker 4: Twenty six from the twenty seven. This is how you
Speaker 4: get beat.
Speaker 3: People could talk about, well, you know when Schoolmaker was
Speaker 3: being held, Oh they picked up the flag, this and that.
Speaker 3: After all that, you had an opportunity to get it done,
Speaker 3: and what did you do.
Speaker 4: It's the same old thing we see around here.
Speaker 3: Man, And I combat that with what I've just been covering.
Speaker 4: With the Rangers in the World Series.
Speaker 3: They played excellent defense, they didn't beat themselves. I watched
Speaker 3: Arizona go out there and beat themselves with unfor worst airs.
Speaker 3: You can't sit around here if you want to play
Speaker 3: and win a champion and be a champion and do
Speaker 3: stupid stuff. Line up offside false start here getting sacks,
Speaker 3: delay of games.
Speaker 4: It's a consistent thing of what they've been able to do.
Speaker 4: And how many times, well we're gonna clean that up?
Speaker 4: Well just a couple. How long are we hearing that?
Speaker 4: That's why I had no hope, Um, no more.
Speaker 3: They can't sit around here, dude, I want an Emmy
Speaker 3: for that commentary. No pusher coming to me with none
Speaker 3: of that anymore, because this is what they do.
Speaker 4: So when you sit up here, you watch it. When
Speaker 4: I read this about battle Chick, it's just real. It
Speaker 4: ain't hard.
Speaker 3: You can't beat yourself. It's tough enough in this league,
Speaker 3: but you're out here beating yourself. Philly was asking you
Speaker 3: to beat them. They asked you to beat You got
Speaker 3: your kicker. Hey, I don't care if you kicked the
Speaker 3: ball fifty one yards, but you kick it out of boundary,
Speaker 3: getting the ball to forty online.
Speaker 4: With short field hold on, and you want to just
Speaker 4: keep going back into that.
Speaker 2: You get a guy, You get a guy who comes
Speaker 2: in here on a touch back, on a touch back
Speaker 2: and go out there and get a.
Speaker 4: Face mask penality.
Speaker 2: And each time, each one of those scoring drives started
Speaker 2: at the fourth and so you can't give a championship
Speaker 2: level team that kind of feel position to start. But
Speaker 2: it doesn't matter which coach, Belichick, Noel Landry, all the
Speaker 2: coaches worth their salt are gonna say the same thing.
Speaker 4: You can't beat yourself. It's in execution.
Speaker 2: The last time we see Mike McCarthy in a situation
Speaker 2: where they need this team needs to execute, it always
Speaker 2: ends in a blunder. Everybody's sitting there going, Okay, you
Speaker 2: got an opportunity to win the game, but you don't
Speaker 2: trust what the execution are you gonna have. Is there
Speaker 2: gonna be a sense of urgency to get to the
Speaker 2: line of scrimmage? Do you have the proper calls on
Speaker 2: to execute these players can't be if you're throwing the ball.
Speaker 2: Come on, it can't be because oh, just to address
Speaker 2: your uh, the end of the game.
Speaker 4: Okay, we listen. Can we just get to the last play.
Speaker 2: Let's start with the last play, the last play, would
Speaker 2: the ball doesn't go to the end zone?
Speaker 4: How about that? Can we start there?
Speaker 2: You got one shot to win the game, right and
Speaker 2: you have to score a touchdown, and you thought about
Speaker 2: short of the goal line. Let's start with that. Let's
Speaker 2: start with that. All right, Terren, still listen. As much
Speaker 2: as we want to say, get help and all that,
Speaker 2: I understand. You got to go out there and play.
Speaker 2: You are the starting right tackle that got some money
Speaker 2: to go out there. You go, Chaz Green, You're not
Speaker 2: Chaz Green. Ain't no nobody came in and was hurt
Speaker 2: or none of that. At some point in time, you
Speaker 2: got to go out there and you got the and
Speaker 2: you got to stop a guy. If how Sun Riddick
Speaker 2: is eating your lunch, Let's not act like how I
Speaker 2: saw Riddick.
Speaker 4: It's just something Joe blow somebody right here. The real did.
Speaker 2: Okay, So how sound Riddick isn't out there playing around,
Speaker 2: regardless of that, regardless of him getting paid. Get that
Speaker 2: man some help. And it was showing through the pressures.
Speaker 2: It was showing through the sacks that we can that
Speaker 2: they were giving up.
Speaker 4: We can. Man. We could be on Dak all day
Speaker 4: and all night. He was under pressure the entire game.
Speaker 2: That's not a quarterback in the NFL that can maneuver
Speaker 2: and do the things that we're asking Dak to do
Speaker 2: under that kind of pressure. I'm sorry, but we're gonna
Speaker 2: we're gonna continue to pour on him. And ask him
Speaker 2: in these championship moments to win us the game. And
Speaker 2: that's what he's not doing. And that's what that's that's
Speaker 2: where the complainant.
Speaker 3: Is still twelve pressures, seven hurries for sat.
Speaker 4: Inside and outside.
Speaker 2: At this point, I'm just saying, we talking about chips
Speaker 2: inside it no matter what they were rushing to do
Speaker 2: that he was getting beat. You're gonna put it. You're
Speaker 2: gonna put a tight end out there, get beat five
Speaker 2: Wait my turn.
Speaker 4: You hate last time.
Speaker 3: So at this point in time, to me, the criminal
Speaker 3: act body head coach and you.
Speaker 4: Didn't help the guy.
Speaker 3: It's clear at this point in time he'd just stick
Speaker 3: him up. Kids and they they about and just and
Speaker 3: that look out. You didn't help him. And on the
Speaker 3: last drive, why sit out four people if you can't
Speaker 3: get them them, set out three and somebody protect him.
Speaker 3: You know, people like to sit around here run down
Speaker 3: Jason Garrett about what happened with Chaz Green. Okay, but
Speaker 3: what about this one? This is right there.
Speaker 4: To me, this is just as damn it, just as damning.
Speaker 4: The dude needed some help. It wasn't his day he.
Speaker 2: Needs I only disagree with that because terrerce terror Steel
Speaker 2: is our starting right tackle who we all said we
Speaker 2: have faith in, our starting five is together. At some
Speaker 2: point they do believe that this ain't no Chaz Green,
Speaker 2: this is Terrence still be his day. I'm not I
Speaker 2: feel I'm saying the reason the situation is different is
Speaker 2: because we knew before the game started that that that
Speaker 2: was going to be a problem with Chaz Green.
Speaker 4: This is not This is not.
Speaker 2: The same of like, hey man, we said, we all
Speaker 2: sating here on this on this podcast and said, hey,
Speaker 2: we believe it.
Speaker 3: What you talking about second half adjustments right in that adjustments,
Speaker 3: That's what baby, I'm dying.
Speaker 4: He's dying out there that gotta say. Somebody say something,
Speaker 4: help him, Help God.
Speaker 2: If you listening to help, let me just ask this though.
Speaker 2: On the on the other side, I know we've been
Speaker 2: in dan Quinn. We trust for a minute, okay, and
Speaker 2: I get it. Uh, we played, We played majority of
Speaker 2: the game, and I don't know that's for sure. In
Speaker 2: Man it looked like we stayed in Man in a situation,
Speaker 2: especially in that second half. And Deron Bland, Okay, it
Speaker 2: is excellent at what he's done. He's he is cutting
Speaker 2: edge in this league. And the pick six is that
Speaker 2: he had so far. But man, the man on Devonte
Speaker 2: Smith turned was the turning point. It was a turning
Speaker 2: point in the game because that signified y'all can't stop us.
Speaker 2: If you're gonna leave him on an island like this,
Speaker 2: we're gonna do this all day. And I gotta give
Speaker 2: jaylen hurstman, who people not talking about. He played an
Speaker 2: efficient game. He got it done the way he needed. Look,
Speaker 2: if you guys are gonna take us away man to
Speaker 2: man and y'all gonna turn y'all back on me, you
Speaker 2: know what I'm gonna do. I'm gonna sneak out of
Speaker 2: the back and I'm gonna get a first down.
Speaker 4: Even with a bum leg, all right, even with got
Speaker 4: to come back to that one. I got it. So
Speaker 4: you saying it was it was d run Blane, Man,
Speaker 4: it wasn't just the run Blaine. You talking about the
Speaker 4: touchdown throat? Yeah, let's that was that was that was.
Speaker 4: That was a pass. Bro Let's let's let's let's okay. Yeah,
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Speaker 4: This got this don't sound like the more victory podcasts?
Speaker 2: Yeah, man, I heard a lot of that today.
Speaker 4: I do on podcasts. I'm just talking about around some people. Yeah,
Speaker 4: they played well, they didn't get beat there. They din't
Speaker 4: get pulled off.
Speaker 2: Who cares? They lost? Neither did the Washington Commanders when
Speaker 2: they played the Eagles eight.
Speaker 4: So he lost. Who cares.
Speaker 3: I've been baseball, and so I've been a whole different,
Speaker 3: whole different way and stuff. Come back here and it
Speaker 3: was closing well out there, But no, do do it?
Speaker 2: Do not?
Speaker 4: There is no try.
Speaker 2: What is the what was the theme of the we
Speaker 2: went and took it? What was the something? What was
Speaker 2: the thing for baseball?
Speaker 4: Yeah?
Speaker 3: Take it, go take it. But you made mistakes right there.
Speaker 3: You know, you made a bad pitch, you made it.
Speaker 3: It was costing you. So guys were on point. You
Speaker 3: had to be detail oriented when you're gonna get beat.
Speaker 3: And some somebody, you know, somebody goes down, somebody else
Speaker 3: stepped up.
Speaker 4: Then I come look over here.
Speaker 2: This week, but we got to stop lining up off
Speaker 2: side like these are just bad, like a sign of
Speaker 2: bast stuff.
Speaker 4: Bro. And it's stayed. But it's been staying that way.
Speaker 3: I mean back, go back to Patrick Crankon and Tony
Speaker 3: Romo not making that, not making the reception. We we're
Speaker 3: from coaches on down here the line man, we keep
Speaker 3: seeing this stuff.
Speaker 4: God, they beat themselves. They keep making the mistakes.
Speaker 3: So Karthy, you got, you got Uncle Wade, you got Jason.
Speaker 4: It's just what it's just been. It's been. It's what
Speaker 4: we used to.
Speaker 2: Man, Jason, Jason Kelsey number sixty two. Man, right now,
Speaker 2: give min jacket right now, Just let him take it. Man,
Speaker 2: he's I mean, he's one of the best at what
Speaker 2: he does. And I'm seeing this guy. Man, he gets
Speaker 2: his hands inside on you, he's gonna raged all you.
Speaker 2: It doesn't matter. And I kept saying, you know, we
Speaker 2: were talking about putting Michael out.
Speaker 4: On other people. You know what will happen if we
Speaker 4: put him.
Speaker 2: On other Don't put him over sixty two. You want
Speaker 2: to null five, number eleven, Don't put him over number
Speaker 2: sixty two. When y'all see him again December eight, don't
Speaker 2: put him over number sixty two, please anywhere.
Speaker 4: But that about the wild card now, No, I'm talking
Speaker 4: about when we play here Sunday night.
Speaker 3: About right, man, wild two and a half back range
Speaker 3: for a wild card. I mean, you know you can get.
Speaker 2: It's gonna it's gonna come down, and we're gonna see it. Obviously,
Speaker 2: we're gonna may end up running to Philadelphia. Again, we're touring.
Speaker 2: We're doing a half back right now, we're doing a
Speaker 2: half back. What do you mean you don't think the
Speaker 2: Cowboy is gonna make it to the playoffs. No, I
Speaker 2: ain't saying that. I don't know how we're talking about.
Speaker 2: Philly might get the first round by so I don't know,
Speaker 2: y'all know, I don't know what.
Speaker 4: To see him again? Yea again December ten, about five
Speaker 4: I'm talking about in December the night I want to
Speaker 4: I want to know this.
Speaker 2: I want to know this. I want to know this.
Speaker 2: And yes, I'm still listen. It's still on my mind. Okay,
Speaker 2: why why it's this? When you line up in three
Speaker 2: pin one against the team is going to play man, your
Speaker 2: expectation for the extra receiver is to be in single coverage.
Speaker 4: Is that correct? So who should you put at your
Speaker 4: ex receiver?
Speaker 2: Your top guy, second, second, best guy, you know, somebody
Speaker 2: who you really got confidence in that could really get open.
Speaker 2: And put some person who was the guy in that place.
Speaker 2: It was Dave October and before that it was Michael Gallop.
Speaker 2: And I'm just I'm just trying to find like, I'm
Speaker 2: trying to figure out if you are really trying to
Speaker 2: get all of your real weapons involved in the game
Speaker 2: or not, or if you're just running or you're just
Speaker 2: running the scheme, because when you line up at three
Speaker 2: point one, a team says, we can dictate who you're
Speaker 2: gonna throw the ball to. We can show you man
Speaker 2: to man, and that means you're gonna throw the ball
Speaker 2: to the backside right what your backside guy is not
Speaker 2: nobody who were scared of, So we can show you
Speaker 2: that we're finna play man the man over there, and
Speaker 2: we could we could do whatever we want to, and
Speaker 2: then we could play three on two form whatever we
Speaker 2: want to over your two best guys. And we saw
Speaker 2: that in the game and we threw it backside the
Speaker 2: Jaalen toe. It just don't make sense to me. Like
Speaker 2: he is a good receiver, he made some big time plays,
Speaker 2: he ain't made it to the point to where when
Speaker 2: the game is on the line, that's where I'm going.
Speaker 4: He ain't made it there.
Speaker 2: When I saw that lineup, I was thinking Washington Redskins,
Speaker 2: Washington Commander's game. When they came out in that mesh
Speaker 2: concept and they had those rub routes and they end
Speaker 2: up getting off a guy that was free that's what
Speaker 2: I thought. Maybe they saw something on film they were
Speaker 2: trying to execute.
Speaker 4: That's the only.
Speaker 2: Reason why you leave Jalen Tobd over there and you're
Speaker 2: trying to get something else going. That's that's that's just
Speaker 2: I don't know. That's what I took from just from
Speaker 2: film stuffy, And.
Speaker 5: The only thing I could think of is, Man, if
Speaker 5: you do have CD out there, maybe it's you know,
Speaker 5: the corner in that post safet or whatever can easily
Speaker 5: double team.
Speaker 4: And maybe that's the case. But even if that's the.
Speaker 5: Case, you ain't putting Tolbert over there to be Cooks
Speaker 5: over there to force them. If that's one on one covers,
Speaker 5: then you got Cooks one on one with a guy
Speaker 5: going deep.
Speaker 4: I'd rather that then no offense.
Speaker 5: But my boy's Obert out there one on one, like
Speaker 5: you said, he's just not to that level yet to
Speaker 5: where he can be like I'm the guy in this
Speaker 5: position when you got so many other people that have
Speaker 5: been proven in that position to make plays available. And
Speaker 5: that just comes down to once again, you know, either
Speaker 5: play calling or skinematic, whatever you want to call it.
Speaker 4: They got to get better.
Speaker 5: And Mike McCarthy, he's done a good job so far
Speaker 5: this season of getting CD Lamb in the football. I
Speaker 5: will say that, especially these past couple of games, he's
Speaker 5: been on fire when he's getting this. Once he said
Speaker 5: I'm not getting the ball. Yeah, he was like, you know,
Speaker 5: I'm gonna make this guy my number one priority. But
Speaker 5: then after that, you you got to be able to
Speaker 5: make a match because teams are gonna continue to, you know,
Speaker 5: put more and more people towards CD Lamb, so you're
Speaker 5: gonna have to make these other guys win one on
Speaker 5: one and City Lamb finished the night eleven catches, one
Speaker 5: hundred and ninety two.
Speaker 4: I mean, it was crazy.
Speaker 2: It was a crazy performance, but something about it was like, man,
Speaker 2: you almost went for two hundred yards. I would expect
Speaker 2: for them to be more like Boom plays, Like it
Speaker 2: was like, hey, he would eighty on one of those,
Speaker 2: something like gotten to the zone. When I looked up
Speaker 2: and realized that he didn't have a touchdown, it was like,
Speaker 2: I'm not calling empty calories or nothing like that. I
Speaker 2: just expected his impact, even though he had a hell
Speaker 2: of an imprint on this game, to be more. How
Speaker 2: do you ask a guy for more in a situation
Speaker 2: where he get one ninety two. But I need more
Speaker 2: from it because I'm not getting it from the other groups.
Speaker 2: I'm not getting it from nobody it Tom, does that
Speaker 2: worry y'all? I mean, because we've been talking about this
Speaker 2: red zone since what week two?
Speaker 4: Week one? Oh Man? Does that worry five zone? Yeah?
Speaker 5: I mean, and we talked about you can't have those
Speaker 5: type of numbers against the echelon teams. You can get
Speaker 5: away with it with the giants, suggests patriots of the world, should.
Speaker 2: You have been four or five in the re zone,
Speaker 2: it could have easily been four or five in the
Speaker 2: reds on. Like, you got to capitalize when you have
Speaker 2: the opportunity to make those plays, all right, And this,
Speaker 2: the CD Lamb thing bothered me just a little bit
Speaker 2: because it seems like that's all you got, and I
Speaker 2: don't believe that's all you got. Turfing is a weapon
Speaker 2: out there, all right, He's proven that he could make
Speaker 2: some plays. And I mean, I'm just gonna keep on saying, like,
Speaker 2: you got guys out there who you can get the
Speaker 2: ball to?
Speaker 4: And where's Tony Pollard? Man, I just feel so sick.
Speaker 3: We didn't even talk what man, let's pick the Monday
Speaker 3: night game. Okay, your boys are in action tonight.
Speaker 4: All right.
Speaker 3: The Chargers are at the Jets, and the Chargers are
Speaker 3: three and a half point favorite. Give me, give me
Speaker 3: the Chargers twenty one twelve. Please see what you got.
Speaker 3: You got, I know you got the Jet.
Speaker 4: Give me the charge. It's gonna be closed at the Jets.
Speaker 4: At the Jets, it's gonna be give me a twenty
Speaker 4: four to twenty one. Man. Maybe I'm going with the Jets. Man,
Speaker 4: all right, exact will I think I picked the Jets
Speaker 4: on Friday. I'm sticking with them.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm going with the Jets. Man, I'm gonna go
Speaker 2: back to sauce. I'm going just twenty four, twenty four
Speaker 2: to twenty nineteen thirteen. I think solid and the defense,
Speaker 2: I think they have a day.
Speaker 4: All right, let's end it there, guys. Let's get back tomorrow.
Speaker 4: Let's get back tomorrow. Gear up. The Giants are coming
Speaker 4: to town. Daniel Jones has been ruled out for Man,
Speaker 4: don't nobody want to talk about Dan Jones.
Speaker 2: We're gonna pump. We're gonna pump up the win after
Speaker 2: I lost. Recommend goodbye, jeezuz.
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