WEBVTT - Emergency Pod | Peyton Watson Traded To Cavs 0:00:07.560 --> 0:00:12.360 Good evening, sweet world, and welcome to an Emergency No 0:00:12.520 --> 0:00:16.919 Dunk podcast presented by FanDuel. It's Wednesday night, August nineteenth, 0:00:17.040 --> 0:00:19.479 twenty twenty six. I'm Jay Skeets back in the yard 0:00:19.520 --> 0:00:23.200 and alongside me as always, it's Task Melts, who we. 0:00:23.160 --> 0:00:27.120 Talked about this emergency trade two days ago and whether 0:00:27.200 --> 0:00:28.840 or not we'll get into it. 0:00:28.960 --> 0:00:33.280 And he's usually my top shot hot boy, but tonight 0:00:33.360 --> 0:00:37.640 he's the Southern lawyer himself, Trey Kirby. We got all 0:00:37.760 --> 0:00:42.840 sales the trade, yes we do. And like tas said, 0:00:43.400 --> 0:00:46.159 we sort of saw this come in, maybe not the 0:00:46.280 --> 0:00:50.320 exact details, but the idea of Peyton Watson being traded 0:00:50.600 --> 0:00:55.000 to the Cleveland Cavaliers, and Seam says, that's exactly what 0:00:55.360 --> 0:00:58.800 happened here tonight on a Wednesday night in the middle 0:00:58.840 --> 0:01:01.240 of August. If you're joining us live love to see it, 0:01:01.280 --> 0:01:04.000 you're a sicko here in the stream team right now. 0:01:04.360 --> 0:01:07.360 Hit the like button, Subscribe podcast listeners, five star ratings 0:01:07.360 --> 0:01:10.199 and reviews. We think JD's around to flip this into 0:01:10.240 --> 0:01:13.000 a podcast, so most of you are probably hearing it 0:01:13.000 --> 0:01:16.800 on Thursday anyway, so let's get into it. A blockbuster, 0:01:17.920 --> 0:01:22.400 but definitely warrants us talking about it. The Calves, Nuggets, 0:01:22.440 --> 0:01:24.560 and Clippers, and I guess the Wizards are in the 0:01:24.600 --> 0:01:28.039 mix here too, have agreed on a trade sending Peyton 0:01:28.080 --> 0:01:32.440 Watson to the Cleveland Cavaliers. We got Max Struce to 0:01:32.560 --> 0:01:36.200 the Clippers and then some draft capital, most notably an 0:01:36.280 --> 0:01:39.880 unprotected twenty and thirty one Calves first round pick to Denver. 0:01:40.520 --> 0:01:43.600 As part of the trade, the Calves send Trey Manned 0:01:44.040 --> 0:01:46.880 and then a twenty twenty seven second rounder from the 0:01:46.880 --> 0:01:49.680 Clips to the Washington Wizards. But the big one here 0:01:49.800 --> 0:01:53.480 task is Peyton Watson going to the Cleveland Cavaliers. Your 0:01:53.520 --> 0:01:55.120 immediate reaction here on a Wednesday night. 0:01:57.080 --> 0:02:00.720 I think this makes the Calves a contender if he 0:02:00.920 --> 0:02:04.919 is there instead of Dean Wade in Game one against 0:02:04.920 --> 0:02:07.360 the Knicks in the Conference Finals when they're up twenty 0:02:07.400 --> 0:02:09.480 two and Dean Wayne doesn't want to fight over any 0:02:09.560 --> 0:02:14.160 single pick as Jalen Brunson kicked the snot out of them. 0:02:14.560 --> 0:02:17.880 Peyton Watson wouldn't do that. He would fight over picks, 0:02:17.880 --> 0:02:20.840 and if he didn't, he would still recover and block 0:02:20.880 --> 0:02:22.760 a shot. He's a way better defender, and I think 0:02:23.120 --> 0:02:26.160 everybody's saying that he had a sixteen game stretch where 0:02:26.200 --> 0:02:28.040 he was good this season and that's it. I think 0:02:28.040 --> 0:02:30.359 he's just gotten better as an offensive player. I think 0:02:30.360 --> 0:02:33.280 his handle has gotten better. He's got that heasy where 0:02:33.280 --> 0:02:35.560 he's way more in control of his body. He can 0:02:35.600 --> 0:02:39.200 turn around, he can hit shots at some point. He's 0:02:39.240 --> 0:02:41.280 a pretty good cutter. He can set screens if they 0:02:41.280 --> 0:02:42.600 want to switch it up a little bit. He's good 0:02:42.639 --> 0:02:45.359 in transition. I think he's just a better offensive player. Now. 0:02:45.360 --> 0:02:47.880 Has he done that in the playoffs? No, he didn't 0:02:47.880 --> 0:02:51.280 play a lot even this year beyond that sixteen game stretch, 0:02:51.480 --> 0:02:54.080 and he played more than half the season. But the 0:02:54.160 --> 0:02:55.320 question is will he be able to do it in 0:02:55.320 --> 0:02:57.240 the postseason. I just think he's grown four years in 0:02:57.280 --> 0:02:59.800 this league. That was his best stretch, and people are 0:03:00.040 --> 0:03:01.639 ushing whether or not he can do in the playoffs. 0:03:02.200 --> 0:03:04.160 If he's starting instead of Dean Wade for that Cleveland 0:03:04.200 --> 0:03:08.120 Cavaliers team, I legitimately think this could be a team 0:03:08.160 --> 0:03:10.160 that makes the NBA Finals. I don't think that's far 0:03:10.200 --> 0:03:10.919 fetched at all. 0:03:11.240 --> 0:03:14.320 As part of this, I should note Peyton Watson signing 0:03:14.720 --> 0:03:17.360 a new four year, eighty eight million dollars deal here 0:03:17.440 --> 0:03:20.519 to join the Cavaliers and sort of this signing trade 0:03:20.520 --> 0:03:22.760 deal include the player option and trade kicker. All right, 0:03:22.800 --> 0:03:26.080 tass high on it, loves Watson to the Cavs. Trey, 0:03:26.720 --> 0:03:27.360 what about you? 0:03:28.120 --> 0:03:29.760 Well, of course task was going to be high on 0:03:29.800 --> 0:03:33.840 this one. If only Gabe Vincent could have somehow been involved, 0:03:33.880 --> 0:03:36.000 we would have had his top three guys in the league. 0:03:37.120 --> 0:03:39.840 But I think this is a great get for the Cavaliers. 0:03:40.040 --> 0:03:44.160 They're certainly improving over Max Strus. They're improving over Dean Wade, 0:03:44.200 --> 0:03:47.160 a guy I had already forgotten was a Cavalier last season. 0:03:47.240 --> 0:03:50.360 Peyton Watson's only twenty four at the start of the season. 0:03:50.400 --> 0:03:52.520 Twenty two million looks like a lot for him, but 0:03:52.560 --> 0:03:55.320 that's like fifteen percent of the cap. Feels like the 0:03:55.360 --> 0:03:57.120 Cavs are going to lose a little bit of shooting 0:03:57.560 --> 0:04:02.240 compared to max Strus, but gay and athletetism, gain defense, 0:04:02.440 --> 0:04:05.480 and certainly they're hoping that last season's three point percentage 0:04:05.480 --> 0:04:08.640 forty one percent is legit. I like to see them 0:04:08.720 --> 0:04:13.080 going in the Eastern Conference. Improved around Cleveland, they basically 0:04:13.080 --> 0:04:15.240 sat on their hands. They were hoping for Lebron. They 0:04:15.320 --> 0:04:19.760 got Hiszonia and now. They actually fortified their starting lineup 0:04:19.760 --> 0:04:21.839 by going to getting Peyton Watson. They got a solid 0:04:21.880 --> 0:04:24.120 one through five right now. I got some concerns about 0:04:24.120 --> 0:04:27.200 who's gonna possibly handle the ball if Harden or Mitchell 0:04:27.200 --> 0:04:29.240 misses any bit of time, They're gonna need to pick 0:04:29.320 --> 0:04:31.479 up some sort of a backup point guard. I thought 0:04:31.600 --> 0:04:34.280 could have been Trey Man. Apparently they didn't care for that. 0:04:34.520 --> 0:04:38.040 They got Peyton Watson. They got their guy. Twenty thirty 0:04:38.080 --> 0:04:40.000 one is a long way from now. They're trying to 0:04:40.040 --> 0:04:41.840 win right now. They don't need to worry about when 0:04:41.880 --> 0:04:44.720 James Harden is over forty, when Donovan Mitchell is thirty 0:04:44.720 --> 0:04:47.000 five years old. The Cavs had to get better if 0:04:47.000 --> 0:04:49.719 they wanted to keep pace in the Eastern Conference. And 0:04:49.800 --> 0:04:50.160 they did. 0:04:50.920 --> 0:04:53.760 Yeah, and it took them that trade prior to this, 0:04:54.440 --> 0:04:58.240 obviously shipping Dennis Shrewder to his twelfth team, and so 0:04:58.400 --> 0:05:00.520 they save some money there, and then they kept the 0:05:00.560 --> 0:05:03.760 pick which ultimately made its way here to the Denver Nuggets, 0:05:03.839 --> 0:05:07.000 only one first round pick in the end tasks for Watson. 0:05:07.120 --> 0:05:08.960 You know all the reports we heard for a while 0:05:08.960 --> 0:05:11.360 there when it wasn't looking like Watson and the Nuggets 0:05:11.400 --> 0:05:14.520 were going to agree on their contract, and what we 0:05:14.520 --> 0:05:16.520 were hearing was more in the seventy million dollar range 0:05:16.520 --> 0:05:19.000 than this eighty eight million he's gonna get here was all. 0:05:19.080 --> 0:05:21.280 They want two picks, you know, they want two picks 0:05:21.320 --> 0:05:23.520 for a very you know what appears to be young, 0:05:24.000 --> 0:05:27.880 talented two way player that potentially could turn into an 0:05:27.920 --> 0:05:30.239 All Star. Well, we'll see as he gets into his prime, 0:05:30.240 --> 0:05:32.760 maybe down the line, but yeah, just one in the end. 0:05:32.800 --> 0:05:35.000 I mean the Nuggets, man, this is this is not great. 0:05:35.240 --> 0:05:38.320 This is a pretty rough offseason, I would say for 0:05:38.360 --> 0:05:39.599 the Denver Nuggets when. 0:05:39.560 --> 0:05:43.040 It's as easily an f offseason. Yeah, the Nuggets losing 0:05:43.080 --> 0:05:46.520 Peyton Watson on top of losing Tim Hardaway, Junior Jonis 0:05:46.560 --> 0:05:50.040 Valanciunis is out of here. They did add Martvin Bagley, 0:05:50.120 --> 0:05:52.720 but I couldn't believe they didn't even give Max Struce back. 0:05:52.839 --> 0:05:55.200 At least when I first saw the tweet, I was like, oh, okay, 0:05:55.240 --> 0:05:57.880 I mean, losing Peyton Watson sucks, but at least you're 0:05:57.880 --> 0:05:59.560 getting a guy who can play in the playoffs and 0:05:59.600 --> 0:06:02.760 Max st Nope, you're getting a guy in twenty thirty one. 0:06:03.120 --> 0:06:07.400 This is unbelievable. But that's exactly why Sam Presty offered 0:06:07.560 --> 0:06:10.840 Spencer Jones that offer sheet. By going into the second apron, 0:06:10.880 --> 0:06:13.640 it meant the Nuggets couldn't bring back an actual player 0:06:13.920 --> 0:06:17.960 for Peyton Watson. This is a disaster offseason for them. 0:06:18.360 --> 0:06:22.239 Yeah, they were definitely trying to move on from whether 0:06:22.279 --> 0:06:26.520 it's Cam Johnson or Christian Brown, at least to say 0:06:26.520 --> 0:06:30.200 to Peyton Watson, here's an offer, some sort of offer. 0:06:30.640 --> 0:06:35.120 But basically because they've given Christian Brown that huge contract 0:06:35.760 --> 0:06:38.440 which I'm sure nobody really wanted around the league at 0:06:38.440 --> 0:06:42.640 five for one hundred and twenty five, and Cam Johnson, 0:06:42.640 --> 0:06:47.280 who underperformed last year, they decided surprisingly to give Spencer 0:06:47.360 --> 0:06:50.719 Jones that money and now they're they're handcuffed. This is 0:06:50.800 --> 0:06:53.159 a money cut, there's no doubt, and now there's a 0:06:53.200 --> 0:06:56.720 lot on the shoulders of Cam Johnson and Christian Brown 0:06:56.800 --> 0:06:59.840 to perform because, as you said, their bench got way, 0:07:00.320 --> 0:07:04.560 and their bench actually was decent. If we remember the 0:07:04.600 --> 0:07:07.000 last four years when Yokich went to the bench, we 0:07:07.040 --> 0:07:10.600 all say, oh my god, this team stinks. They actually 0:07:10.600 --> 0:07:12.720 improved by a lot. They only were beat by two 0:07:12.800 --> 0:07:15.560 point eight per hundred possessions last year when yokiic was 0:07:15.560 --> 0:07:18.040 on the bench. That is a huge number for them. 0:07:18.160 --> 0:07:20.200 The last four years it was between eight and a 0:07:20.240 --> 0:07:23.240 half and ten points. They got slaughtered. And that's the 0:07:23.240 --> 0:07:26.880 scary part about this. They don't have that support now 0:07:26.960 --> 0:07:29.680 with Tim Hardaway, god Valchuns Gon. They are not bringing 0:07:29.680 --> 0:07:33.880 Bruce Brown gone or back. Yeah, they're throwing those guys 0:07:33.880 --> 0:07:35.680 out that you threw out there that this is. This 0:07:35.760 --> 0:07:37.440 is scary and there's a lot on the shoulders for 0:07:38.000 --> 0:07:41.200 Christian Brunt and I would hope Cam Johnson is just 0:07:41.360 --> 0:07:43.560 way better than he was last year because he's a 0:07:43.560 --> 0:07:46.840 better player. But let's see if he can do it. 0:07:46.840 --> 0:07:49.280 Because I don't have faith in Aaron Gordon really holding 0:07:49.360 --> 0:07:53.480 up this team. It's onto those other two guys. This 0:07:53.640 --> 0:07:56.680 other two guys shoulders and Trey brought up was. 0:07:58.200 --> 0:08:01.040 Twenty thirty one pick they're getting from the cap is valuable. 0:08:01.200 --> 0:08:03.760 Like I said, Harden and Mitchell, who knows if they're 0:08:03.800 --> 0:08:06.560 even going to be around come twenty thirty one. This 0:08:06.640 --> 0:08:09.080 could be a good pick for whichever team makes it. 0:08:09.240 --> 0:08:11.280 And that's why the Nuggets need to use this pick 0:08:11.400 --> 0:08:13.440 or maybe their own twenty thirty one which they can 0:08:13.480 --> 0:08:16.360 now access because of Steepian rules. They need to use 0:08:16.360 --> 0:08:19.640 that and then either the Cam Johnson contracts Aaron Gordon 0:08:19.800 --> 0:08:22.800 or Christian Brown to get a real player and improve, 0:08:22.920 --> 0:08:25.080 because otherwise they're gonna lose Yokic at the end of 0:08:25.120 --> 0:08:27.560 all this because people are just walking out the door 0:08:27.800 --> 0:08:31.200 in Denver with no replacements coming back. They've gotten worse. 0:08:31.280 --> 0:08:34.160 The teams behind them have gotten better, and they're already 0:08:34.200 --> 0:08:37.280 younger and deeper. So I think it's good to get 0:08:37.280 --> 0:08:39.400 the twenty thirty one pick, but it's got to be 0:08:39.480 --> 0:08:42.120 used for something to actually make the team competitive because 0:08:42.200 --> 0:08:43.240 right now they're falling behind. 0:08:44.160 --> 0:08:46.000 Let's talk that out a little bit, and we can 0:08:46.000 --> 0:08:48.480 do that with the stream team here too, Like you said, 0:08:48.520 --> 0:08:50.839 Trey using this new pick their pick that they could 0:08:50.920 --> 0:08:53.840 unlock now and maybe one of those guys you mentioned 0:08:53.920 --> 0:08:56.480 or one of the contracts, like who could be, Like 0:08:56.559 --> 0:09:00.280 do we have anyone on the wish list as a 0:09:00.480 --> 0:09:04.640 as a realistic possibility. Let's say a team struggles whatever, 0:09:05.000 --> 0:09:07.800 so you know it's not going well with said stars 0:09:07.840 --> 0:09:10.280 on a team, Like who would it be that they could, uh, 0:09:11.160 --> 0:09:13.040 you know, make a move, Like are they praying the 0:09:13.080 --> 0:09:15.760 magic suddenly decide well, we can't win with you know, 0:09:15.840 --> 0:09:18.760 fronds En Powlo and you know something like that, drastic 0:09:18.880 --> 0:09:19.160 like that. 0:09:21.480 --> 0:09:24.040 Yeah, I guess that's maybe who you would be looking at. 0:09:24.040 --> 0:09:25.880 Those are some guys that are like up in the 0:09:25.920 --> 0:09:28.240 air for what they're gonna actually be doing. I suppose 0:09:28.280 --> 0:09:30.959 they could try to get in on the Trey Murphy 0:09:31.160 --> 0:09:34.520 sweepstakes whenever that finally opens up. It seems like they 0:09:34.520 --> 0:09:36.640 would kind of be priced out. But this twenty thirty 0:09:36.640 --> 0:09:39.480 one maybe gets them back in the mix a little bit. 0:09:39.840 --> 0:09:42.120 But it does seem like it's gonna be a stressful 0:09:42.559 --> 0:09:45.360 few months for Nuggets fans. They're losing a homegrown product 0:09:45.600 --> 0:09:48.959 in Peyton Watson, they don't have a replacement for him, 0:09:49.160 --> 0:09:51.600 and it's gonna be a while before they can even 0:09:51.640 --> 0:09:54.440 really figure out how to use this stuff together in 0:09:54.559 --> 0:09:57.400 order to improve their team. If I'm a Nuggets fan, 0:09:57.800 --> 0:09:58.440 I'm upset. 0:10:00.160 --> 0:10:04.840 Yeah again, I think you're hoping a lot with what 0:10:04.880 --> 0:10:07.040 they got, And you're here hoping a lot with Cam 0:10:07.160 --> 0:10:11.360 Johnson and having a bounce back here looking more like him, 0:10:11.400 --> 0:10:13.160 and same for Christian Brown. So if you have two 0:10:13.160 --> 0:10:15.560 guys who can bounce back, you're starting to think those 0:10:15.600 --> 0:10:19.040 two guys combined with their big three of Aaron Gordon, 0:10:19.720 --> 0:10:24.480 Jokic and Jamal Murray should be decent. They they should be, 0:10:26.440 --> 0:10:28.400 but they do have that pick now, I guess to 0:10:28.480 --> 0:10:31.440 get to move on from one of those guys that 0:10:31.440 --> 0:10:35.480 they'd have to attach a pick to for anyone to 0:10:35.520 --> 0:10:39.360 take Christian Brown. And the Cam Johnson one does expire 0:10:39.400 --> 0:10:42.000 after this year, so maybe it's a full year experiment 0:10:42.080 --> 0:10:45.880 to try one more time with the same unit. But 0:10:47.120 --> 0:10:51.880 then you start, yeah, yeah, and maybe he didn't sign 0:10:51.960 --> 0:10:55.640 his extension because you know, he sees the writing on 0:10:55.640 --> 0:10:57.120 the wall here. It ain't looking good. 0:10:57.840 --> 0:11:02.480 It feels like the window is, if not closed, barely 0:11:02.559 --> 0:11:05.079 cracked open. Because they have Jokic, you gotta give in 0:11:05.280 --> 0:11:08.200 like a one percent chance. But this Nuggets team is 0:11:08.240 --> 0:11:09.240 five deep at this point. 0:11:09.240 --> 0:11:12.720 It feels like, yeah, right, you already went through like 0:11:12.760 --> 0:11:16.640 the lack of bench guys going out. It's like, also, okay, uh, 0:11:16.880 --> 0:11:19.920 if you're like one to five five, being one hundred 0:11:19.960 --> 0:11:23.679 percent will happen again. If you're scaling everything with the 0:11:23.760 --> 0:11:27.120 Nuggets and you're like, ken Jokic still play at an 0:11:27.160 --> 0:11:30.160 MVP level, Yeah, that's a five. That's a no brainer, 0:11:30.160 --> 0:11:32.720 one hundred percent. Have faith in that. But then it's like, 0:11:33.640 --> 0:11:36.160 what's the number for Jamal Murray having another career year, 0:11:36.200 --> 0:11:38.720 an All Star year. I don't think it's one hundred. 0:11:38.840 --> 0:11:40.800 I think it's a little lower. Then you go Aaron 0:11:40.840 --> 0:11:43.679 Gordon staying healthy. It's lower than that even. And then 0:11:43.720 --> 0:11:46.440 these guys like you're saying tasks these bounce back years 0:11:46.440 --> 0:11:48.880 from two guys like I mean, we say bounce back, 0:11:48.920 --> 0:11:51.160 it's got to be much better than that even sort 0:11:51.160 --> 0:11:54.720 of the Peyton Watson trajectory. Again, the numbers even lower. 0:11:54.760 --> 0:11:57.760 As my point, So, yeah, like you have yokis are 0:11:57.800 --> 0:12:00.839 gonna be good, that's for sure, but like, not a 0:12:00.920 --> 0:12:04.200 lot of faith in going deep in the playoffs here, 0:12:04.240 --> 0:12:06.400 even with this squad let alone getting in there and 0:12:06.400 --> 0:12:08.000 getting a good seating and all that stuff. 0:12:09.400 --> 0:12:11.520 I mean, they do have the Denver home court advantage, 0:12:11.559 --> 0:12:13.960 but they lost in the first round last year. They 0:12:13.960 --> 0:12:16.640 weren't super competitive in the first round either, and their 0:12:16.640 --> 0:12:19.640 team is definitely worse while everybody else is getting better 0:12:19.720 --> 0:12:24.120 around them. This is just bad and it's disappointing and 0:12:24.200 --> 0:12:26.680 not the way that you should be handling the prime 0:12:26.880 --> 0:12:29.319 of the greatest player in your franchise's history. 0:12:31.400 --> 0:12:34.880 Yeah, it's such an odd financial makeup for this team 0:12:35.000 --> 0:12:39.320 now with they give Spencer Jones that money and they 0:12:39.320 --> 0:12:41.679 look like they're in the second apron and then they 0:12:41.760 --> 0:12:45.520 let Peyton Watson go and then again a decent bench 0:12:45.559 --> 0:12:48.520 for the first time in five years. And so yeah, 0:12:48.559 --> 0:12:54.200 they are not compiled all that well. And so the 0:12:54.280 --> 0:12:56.920 thing about the bounce back years, as I said about 0:12:57.040 --> 0:13:00.040 Cam Johnson and Christian Brown, part of it was he 0:13:00.040 --> 0:13:03.240 didn't play a lot of basketball. Cam Johnson played fifty 0:13:03.280 --> 0:13:06.480 four of eighty two games, and Christian Brown for the 0:13:06.520 --> 0:13:08.520 first time in his career. If I'm not mistaken, I 0:13:08.760 --> 0:13:11.400 have to look it up to see how many games 0:13:11.480 --> 0:13:13.480 he missed, but it feels like for the first time 0:13:13.559 --> 0:13:15.160 he hasn't played a lot. And it's true he played 0:13:15.200 --> 0:13:17.160 forty four of eighty two games for the first time 0:13:17.800 --> 0:13:20.760 not playing more than seventy six games. So a fifty 0:13:20.800 --> 0:13:23.320 four and twenty eight win team last year, with those 0:13:23.360 --> 0:13:28.640 guys playing fewer games, their starting five could look a 0:13:28.679 --> 0:13:31.920 heck of a lot stronger. If Cam Johnson comes into 0:13:31.960 --> 0:13:35.760 camp ready to be should be. He should be the 0:13:35.800 --> 0:13:38.760 third best player on this team if he plays to 0:13:38.920 --> 0:13:44.440 his complete ability. And I say that because Aaron Gordon's 0:13:44.480 --> 0:13:48.080 just not that guy. But at the same time, yeah, 0:13:48.120 --> 0:13:50.040 there's so many questions now with those two guys on 0:13:50.120 --> 0:13:50.480 the bench. 0:13:51.920 --> 0:13:54.320 I want to talk a little bit, tiny bit about 0:13:54.320 --> 0:13:56.880 Max Strus to the Clippers. I'm with you, TK. When 0:13:56.880 --> 0:13:58.920 you first saw the news, you're like, oh, strews to 0:13:58.960 --> 0:14:00.800 the nugget, so you know, oh, that's sort of where 0:14:00.840 --> 0:14:02.560 you just see the graphic and you're like, Okay, he's 0:14:02.600 --> 0:14:05.360 probably going to Denver if Peyton Watson is going to Cleveland, 0:14:05.360 --> 0:14:09.360 but no, he goes to the Clippers, where they you know, 0:14:09.480 --> 0:14:11.959 he says goodbye to Cleveland after what three years? 0:14:11.960 --> 0:14:16.960 I guess they're yeah, yeah, right now, the Clippers are 0:14:17.120 --> 0:14:19.320 just the way station for guys you've heard of. This 0:14:19.400 --> 0:14:20.920 is a team that seems like they're going to be 0:14:20.960 --> 0:14:23.680 active at the trade deadline just because they've got role 0:14:23.720 --> 0:14:26.720 players that a lot of teams could use. Maybe they 0:14:26.760 --> 0:14:29.880 end up losing some first round picks in this aspiration scandal. 0:14:29.880 --> 0:14:31.800 Who knows what's going to transpire with that, but it 0:14:31.800 --> 0:14:34.160 sounds like they can get some second round picks back 0:14:34.400 --> 0:14:37.360 for all these random dudes that are now making up 0:14:37.360 --> 0:14:39.120 the entirety of their team. Like they're going to have 0:14:39.120 --> 0:14:40.960 twelve guys on their team that you've heard of. That's 0:14:41.000 --> 0:14:43.440 not true for every single team in the NBA, but 0:14:43.520 --> 0:14:47.920 I think the big winner Clippers wise is Max Strus. 0:14:47.920 --> 0:14:49.840 He's going to be the Tannis Man in the NBA 0:14:49.920 --> 0:14:50.440 next season. 0:14:51.080 --> 0:14:53.480 Oh god, yeah, great point. 0:14:53.680 --> 0:14:55.680 When this guy comes back from the All Star Break, 0:14:55.720 --> 0:14:57.600 he is a bronze god and he's going to be 0:14:57.600 --> 0:14:59.960 out in LA for the entire season. Wow. 0:15:00.360 --> 0:15:02.520 I'm trying to think of like guys. He'll be giving 0:15:02.600 --> 0:15:05.200 his run for their money for like even retired guys 0:15:05.200 --> 0:15:08.280 like Chandler Parsons was a classic super Tan guy after 0:15:08.320 --> 0:15:09.160 the All Star break. 0:15:09.680 --> 0:15:14.480 Absolutely, Dan Marley, I think as well a real Tan guy. 0:15:15.200 --> 0:15:17.400 Who else is going on the Mount Tan more? Let 0:15:17.440 --> 0:15:17.720 us know? 0:15:19.000 --> 0:15:21.680 I would say there's some under the radar Tan guys 0:15:21.680 --> 0:15:24.360 for the Clippers that you don't think of. Ruya Ya 0:15:24.440 --> 0:15:28.120 Mura comes back darker when he goes and gets scanned. 0:15:28.240 --> 0:15:31.080 Brook Lopez wouldn't think of him as a Tan guy, 0:15:31.520 --> 0:15:34.560 but he can get pretty bronze. I think you got 0:15:34.560 --> 0:15:37.880 a big three right there in Los Angeles of Tan 0:15:38.000 --> 0:15:42.400 guys there with with Max Struce. So I don't know, well, 0:15:42.680 --> 0:15:44.600 you know, and I was gonna say Cam Christy. For 0:15:44.600 --> 0:15:46.680 some reason, I can see him glowing too. Maybe he's 0:15:46.720 --> 0:15:51.520 on the mountain tan more deep deep cut of Camp Christie. Yeah, 0:15:51.520 --> 0:15:54.960 that it is such a hodgepodge of guys on the 0:15:54.960 --> 0:15:59.840 Los Angeles Clippers. What a what a wild wild team. 0:16:00.480 --> 0:16:03.280 Okay, so sounds like to sum up everything because this 0:16:03.320 --> 0:16:05.040 is not gonna be a long podcast. I can't believe 0:16:05.080 --> 0:16:08.360 we're even doing one. Peyton Watson. Everybody seems pretty high, 0:16:08.480 --> 0:16:10.280 you know, from the from the Cavaliers, we're. 0:16:10.080 --> 0:16:16.200 Talking about a potential contenders, a potential contender. 0:16:16.520 --> 0:16:19.960 They traded this big pic to make themselves a potential contender. 0:16:19.960 --> 0:16:22.120 Come on, man, they made the conference finals last year. 0:16:22.520 --> 0:16:26.240 I think they're in a second tier Eastern Conference. Personally, 0:16:26.960 --> 0:16:28.800 you know, we got the Knicks, and for me, the 0:16:28.840 --> 0:16:31.520 Sixers are in the top tier. And then I think 0:16:31.560 --> 0:16:34.840 the Calves are still there with the Celtics, with the Pistons. 0:16:35.200 --> 0:16:38.280 Assuming the Raptors do get Kawhi Leonard, they're in the 0:16:38.280 --> 0:16:40.720 mix to the Celtics as well. Like I think the 0:16:40.760 --> 0:16:44.640 Calves have kept pace in that second group of teams 0:16:44.640 --> 0:16:47.240 in the East. I don't think Watson is like an 0:16:47.280 --> 0:16:50.720 ideal fit for this team, but it's the middle of August. 0:16:50.800 --> 0:16:52.280 You're not finding the ideal fit. 0:16:52.880 --> 0:16:55.560 And we are under the assumption here that James Harden 0:16:55.600 --> 0:16:59.400 will eventually now be signing with Cleveland. They are waiting 0:16:59.400 --> 0:16:59.720 on that. 0:17:00.600 --> 0:17:04.800 Yeah, yeah, he has been waiting for it, so he 0:17:04.840 --> 0:17:07.960 could sign after they go and get a small forward 0:17:08.040 --> 0:17:10.960 to play instead of Dean Wade, and they got one. 0:17:11.160 --> 0:17:13.840 And yeah, Peyton Watson is not a knockdown shooter and 0:17:13.880 --> 0:17:15.439 he never has been. But I do think he has 0:17:15.480 --> 0:17:20.360 got to his best level. And I know we all 0:17:20.359 --> 0:17:23.480 look at that stretch but of sixteen games, but really, 0:17:23.480 --> 0:17:25.720 you throw him out there, and again, they're winning game 0:17:25.760 --> 0:17:27.720 one of that conference final if he's out there instead 0:17:27.760 --> 0:17:30.040 of Dean Wade, because he plays defense and he plays 0:17:30.040 --> 0:17:32.240 it hard and he's not just gonna allow a pick 0:17:32.480 --> 0:17:35.040 just to allow a switch on to James Harden against 0:17:35.080 --> 0:17:38.360 Jalen Brunson over and over and over again. And so yeah, 0:17:38.400 --> 0:17:39.080 they're a contender. 0:17:39.320 --> 0:17:42.399 He's going to be a lot of this coming season. 0:17:43.359 --> 0:17:46.480 Yeah, but you have Mobley and Allen behind him. I mean, yes, 0:17:46.840 --> 0:17:49.000 it is sort of their guards and their ball handlers 0:17:49.160 --> 0:17:53.760 are question and you're gonna expect probably a lot of 0:17:53.840 --> 0:17:58.240 the guys that they have and currently yes, so that 0:17:58.240 --> 0:18:00.719 that is that is the worrisome part. Do they have 0:18:00.760 --> 0:18:04.960 the depth? But we fall find out and I think 0:18:05.000 --> 0:18:06.720 that you know, there's good They're probably gonna throw a 0:18:06.760 --> 0:18:09.000 lot of Craig Porter Junior out there as they're backup, 0:18:09.000 --> 0:18:10.720 and maybe they need to go find another one because 0:18:10.720 --> 0:18:13.679 Dennis Shruder was important in the playoffs. But they are 0:18:13.720 --> 0:18:14.560 a contender for me. 0:18:14.880 --> 0:18:17.800 Okay, contender from tasks as Trey, I'm sort of along 0:18:17.840 --> 0:18:20.000 the line of your thinking. They're they're they're they're trying 0:18:20.000 --> 0:18:22.840 to stay attached to all these Eastern Conference teams and 0:18:22.880 --> 0:18:24.879 a lot of them that made sort of big moves 0:18:24.920 --> 0:18:27.760 and and gambles for a lot of them, but big, big, 0:18:27.920 --> 0:18:30.200 splashy moves. Now this is not that, but good player. 0:18:30.280 --> 0:18:32.640 Like we were fans of Peyton Watson. You know, we'll 0:18:32.640 --> 0:18:34.520 see if he can live now up to the contract. 0:18:35.000 --> 0:18:38.040 But the trajectory looks right. He looks like a legit 0:18:38.320 --> 0:18:40.159 three and D type of player at his age. So 0:18:40.920 --> 0:18:43.040 the Calves have always wanted one of these guys, and 0:18:43.080 --> 0:18:45.000 they finally get one on the roster here. It's been 0:18:45.040 --> 0:18:46.840 a couple of years of them searching for a guy 0:18:46.920 --> 0:18:49.320 like he's gonna be better than DeAndre Hunter. 0:18:49.440 --> 0:18:50.880 Do you think, oh, just a. 0:18:50.800 --> 0:18:53.760 Little bit, I hope, so just a little bit. Well 0:18:53.760 --> 0:18:56.399 you're talking to the number one DeAndre Hunter hater. So 0:18:56.600 --> 0:18:58.160 that's a great point. That was a great point, and 0:18:58.200 --> 0:19:02.080 that was right. But yes, I played the defense. He'll 0:19:02.119 --> 0:19:02.440 be better. 0:19:03.720 --> 0:19:06.000 Yeah, this guy, this guy will play way harder than 0:19:07.000 --> 0:19:14.320 no Dandre Hunter. That guy changed, man, he changed. I 0:19:14.359 --> 0:19:16.600 think with all the all the attention that goes to 0:19:16.720 --> 0:19:20.600 every single guy in that starting lineup besides him, I 0:19:20.680 --> 0:19:24.200 think Peyton Watson will capitalize as he did playing with Jokic, 0:19:24.400 --> 0:19:26.679 even when you know, we all talk about that sixteen 0:19:26.720 --> 0:19:29.280 game stretch when Jokic was out, but when Jokic was 0:19:29.440 --> 0:19:32.800 passing to him like Harden will be passing to him. 0:19:33.000 --> 0:19:36.000 He'll be taking advantage of all the gravity that the 0:19:36.040 --> 0:19:38.720 other guys have in that starting lineup. Man, I'm talking 0:19:38.760 --> 0:19:41.600 myself into a team that can make the finals. But 0:19:41.680 --> 0:19:44.119 we've never seen Peyton Watson do it in the playoffs. 0:19:44.640 --> 0:19:47.080 But a lot of that is because he just wasn't 0:19:47.080 --> 0:19:49.879 that good, and I think he got to his level 0:19:49.880 --> 0:19:53.280 in year four and then he got hurt, so he 0:19:53.320 --> 0:19:54.760 didn't play in the playoffs, So A. 0:19:54.800 --> 0:19:57.240 Plus let's say from tass on this from Cleveland side 0:19:57.240 --> 0:20:00.399 of things, a's B pluses for everybody else. Let's hear 0:20:00.400 --> 0:20:03.359 what the stream team thinks. Now again, just to wrap 0:20:03.480 --> 0:20:06.760