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I'm not a danger to myself or anyone else. 25 00:00:57,360 --> 00:00:59,959 Speaker 4: And I need opinions of people who can feel empathy 26 00:01:00,080 --> 00:01:01,200 Speaker 4: to know if I was wrong. 27 00:01:01,360 --> 00:01:03,440 Speaker 3: At least you get the self awareness te I'm just 28 00:01:03,520 --> 00:01:04,040 Speaker 3: to wake. 29 00:01:03,920 --> 00:01:07,440 Speaker 4: Sure you guys you know on the same bitch too. 30 00:01:08,040 --> 00:01:10,320 Speaker 4: By the way, this comes from Striking Letter twenty nine 31 00:01:10,400 --> 00:01:12,760 Speaker 4: oh four on the r slash Okay storytime Separate It. 32 00:01:13,000 --> 00:01:16,880 Speaker 4: Yesterday night, it was my cousin Bianca's twenty one female birthday. 33 00:01:16,920 --> 00:01:19,559 Speaker 4: We were all invited to her house. She still lives 34 00:01:19,560 --> 00:01:22,120 Speaker 4: with her parents and we have a big family. My 35 00:01:22,200 --> 00:01:25,160 Speaker 4: family arrived first, and a while later my aunt, who 36 00:01:25,200 --> 00:01:28,600 Speaker 4: was just divorced call me forty six female arrived and 37 00:01:28,640 --> 00:01:32,959 Speaker 4: when she hugged Bianca's boyfriend Vincent twenty one male, after 38 00:01:33,000 --> 00:01:35,720 Speaker 4: we sang Happy Birthday and cut the cake, kamios to 39 00:01:35,800 --> 00:01:38,240 Speaker 4: me to take pictures with her unlocked phone, as I 40 00:01:38,280 --> 00:01:40,760 Speaker 4: don't like to be in photos. As I was taking them, 41 00:01:40,959 --> 00:01:45,160 Speaker 4: I saw a notification from someone called Vincent and accidentally 42 00:01:45,360 --> 00:01:48,360 Speaker 4: more or less opened it. It said I can't wait 43 00:01:48,480 --> 00:01:51,320 Speaker 4: till the party is over. It was him. I knew 44 00:01:51,320 --> 00:01:54,680 Speaker 4: his profile picture. He didn't like look over to see 45 00:01:54,680 --> 00:01:56,800 Speaker 4: that she was taking pictures on the phone. He was 46 00:01:56,840 --> 00:01:57,440 Speaker 4: at the party. 47 00:01:57,880 --> 00:02:01,040 Speaker 5: Accidentally, more or less like I got a help in 48 00:02:01,120 --> 00:02:02,000 Speaker 5: it and I hopped up. 49 00:02:02,240 --> 00:02:05,200 Speaker 4: Yeah, not even Ten minutes later, Commie asked Vincent to 50 00:02:05,240 --> 00:02:07,480 Speaker 4: help her bring her gift to Bianca from the car. 51 00:02:07,560 --> 00:02:10,359 Speaker 4: It was an electric guitar. Curious, I followed them into 52 00:02:10,360 --> 00:02:12,840 Speaker 4: the backyard. Oh piece, done a full snoop, and under 53 00:02:12,880 --> 00:02:17,600 Speaker 4: the little light of the car saw them kissing. Ew 54 00:02:18,480 --> 00:02:20,360 Speaker 4: As I had my phone in my hand, I quickly 55 00:02:20,400 --> 00:02:22,600 Speaker 4: snapped a picture and went into the house before they 56 00:02:22,600 --> 00:02:25,760 Speaker 4: could see me. They came back fifteen minutes later. As 57 00:02:25,800 --> 00:02:27,920 Speaker 4: much as I don't care about Bianca, I thought she 58 00:02:28,080 --> 00:02:30,320 Speaker 4: deserved to know the truth. So when it was my 59 00:02:30,520 --> 00:02:32,880 Speaker 4: turn to give her my gift, I pulled her aside 60 00:02:32,919 --> 00:02:35,680 Speaker 4: and showed her the picture. She burst into tears and 61 00:02:35,720 --> 00:02:39,720 Speaker 4: started screaming, confronting both Commie and Vincent. How could you 62 00:02:39,760 --> 00:02:42,359 Speaker 4: do this to me? There was lots of tears and shouting. 63 00:02:42,600 --> 00:02:46,240 Speaker 4: Vincent said it was only one kiss, only this time. Yes, sure, 64 00:02:46,360 --> 00:02:48,760 Speaker 4: But then I asked to see his phone. He denied. 65 00:02:48,960 --> 00:02:52,600 Speaker 4: Cammie also denied, calling me a psychopathic, heartless bee word. 66 00:02:52,760 --> 00:02:55,680 Speaker 4: The party ended soon after, and Vincent left with Cammie. 67 00:02:55,880 --> 00:03:00,440 Speaker 4: Now my family is divided into three fronts. One my grandma, grandpa, uncle, 68 00:03:00,480 --> 00:03:02,800 Speaker 4: and mother think it was not my place to tell too, 69 00:03:03,000 --> 00:03:06,840 Speaker 4: Bianca's father, my other aunt, Bianca's mother, Bianca's brother, and 70 00:03:06,919 --> 00:03:09,360 Speaker 4: Bianca who think I should have waited till the end 71 00:03:09,480 --> 00:03:12,040 Speaker 4: of the party to tell and not ruined her twenty 72 00:03:12,040 --> 00:03:15,200 Speaker 4: first birthday. And three my sister, my father, and my 73 00:03:15,240 --> 00:03:17,440 Speaker 4: other cousin who think I did the right thing. Feels 74 00:03:17,520 --> 00:03:19,800 Speaker 4: like everyone is mad at me and not the cheaters. 75 00:03:19,960 --> 00:03:22,880 Speaker 4: So read it. Tell me, am I the a hole. 76 00:03:23,040 --> 00:03:23,840 Speaker 4: What's your thoughts? 77 00:03:24,120 --> 00:03:27,720 Speaker 5: Dakota kind of ridiculous that they're like, you ruined her birthday. 78 00:03:27,720 --> 00:03:31,880 Speaker 5: It's like birthday, it's your boyfriend that ruined her twenty. 79 00:03:31,600 --> 00:03:33,760 Speaker 3: Birth birthday by kissing her aunt. 80 00:03:34,040 --> 00:03:36,000 Speaker 5: Is also true that you could have maybe picked a 81 00:03:36,000 --> 00:03:38,880 Speaker 5: better time instead of being like, oh, here's your birthday President, 82 00:03:38,920 --> 00:03:42,040 Speaker 5: I got a picture for your birthday presents for you. 83 00:03:42,360 --> 00:03:45,560 Speaker 5: You're like, I always feel like people being like it's 84 00:03:45,600 --> 00:03:46,560 Speaker 5: not your place to tell. 85 00:03:46,640 --> 00:03:48,640 Speaker 3: It's like, what do you mean, Like, who is supposed 86 00:03:48,640 --> 00:03:49,040 Speaker 3: to tell her? 87 00:03:49,200 --> 00:03:51,160 Speaker 5: Yeah, it's like once you find out, it's like I 88 00:03:51,200 --> 00:03:53,240 Speaker 5: would want someone to tell me me me too. 89 00:03:53,280 --> 00:03:55,160 Speaker 4: It also seems like, I mean she said that she's not, 90 00:03:55,400 --> 00:03:57,040 Speaker 4: you know, always cued into social norms. 91 00:03:57,080 --> 00:03:59,640 Speaker 3: So she oh, that's right, she's got ah. 92 00:03:59,720 --> 00:04:02,280 Speaker 5: Yeah, yes, okay, that explains why it was like immediately 93 00:04:02,320 --> 00:04:03,000 Speaker 5: happy birthday. 94 00:04:03,080 --> 00:04:05,040 Speaker 3: Look at this photo you. 95 00:04:05,120 --> 00:04:07,640 Speaker 4: Need to know. Yeah, No, I don't think OPI's the 96 00:04:07,640 --> 00:04:10,200 Speaker 4: a hole. Jack Fruit Glad eight oh one to five says, 97 00:04:10,360 --> 00:04:12,400 Speaker 4: not the A hole. I feel like the birthday would 98 00:04:12,400 --> 00:04:14,720 Speaker 4: have been ruined either way. It's sad that they couldn't 99 00:04:14,720 --> 00:04:16,640 Speaker 4: even wait for your cousin to have a good birthday 100 00:04:16,680 --> 00:04:20,560 Speaker 4: to act on their affair. Opie says, right, I was labrigasted. 101 00:04:20,680 --> 00:04:24,000 Speaker 4: An external expert twenty sixty nine says it's anyone's place 102 00:04:24,040 --> 00:04:26,040 Speaker 4: to tell on a cheater, not the a hole, which 103 00:04:26,040 --> 00:04:27,880 Speaker 4: I agree. Yeah, I think if you find out, you 104 00:04:27,880 --> 00:04:29,360 Speaker 4: should have hit it better if you didn't want them 105 00:04:29,400 --> 00:04:31,840 Speaker 4: to tell. Juicy Sopie says, you're not the a hole 106 00:04:31,880 --> 00:04:34,200 Speaker 4: for exposing the affair, but you could have chosen a 107 00:04:34,200 --> 00:04:36,839 Speaker 4: better time in place to do it. Opie says, thank you. 108 00:04:36,880 --> 00:04:39,040 Speaker 4: I find it hard to take other people's feelings into 109 00:04:39,080 --> 00:04:41,400 Speaker 4: account since I don't have many of my own. I 110 00:04:41,440 --> 00:04:45,200 Speaker 4: will apologize to Bianca Hermione says, Yeah, finding out you've 111 00:04:45,240 --> 00:04:47,880 Speaker 4: been cheated on in public can also be really embarrassing. 112 00:04:48,000 --> 00:04:51,880 Speaker 4: You feel shame, anger, disgust and vulnerable. It's usually one 113 00:04:51,880 --> 00:04:54,200 Speaker 4: of the lowest points of someone's life, so you really 114 00:04:54,200 --> 00:04:56,520 Speaker 4: don't want an audience for it. It makes it a 115 00:04:56,560 --> 00:04:59,200 Speaker 4: spectacle if you're ever in a situation like that. Again, 116 00:04:59,279 --> 00:05:01,560 Speaker 4: as hard as it is to wait, make sure the 117 00:05:01,640 --> 00:05:04,760 Speaker 4: victim of cheating has some privacy, and Opie says, I 118 00:05:04,839 --> 00:05:07,039 Speaker 4: will thank you life. Let us when eighty says you 119 00:05:07,040 --> 00:05:09,279 Speaker 4: did the right thing by telling Bianca. In the future, 120 00:05:09,480 --> 00:05:11,560 Speaker 4: could you talk to someone close to you who tends 121 00:05:11,600 --> 00:05:13,440 Speaker 4: to do the right thing often and ask for their 122 00:05:13,440 --> 00:05:15,800 Speaker 4: advice on how to proceed. If you're close to anyone 123 00:05:15,839 --> 00:05:17,720 Speaker 4: in the second group of people who thought right thing 124 00:05:17,720 --> 00:05:20,480 Speaker 4: wrong time, they could be a good sounding board in 125 00:05:20,520 --> 00:05:23,400 Speaker 4: the future. There is an update one day later, a Hi. So, 126 00:05:23,600 --> 00:05:25,640 Speaker 4: as you can see from my profile, I'm not an 127 00:05:25,680 --> 00:05:28,320 Speaker 4: active user, so I hope this post finds those who 128 00:05:28,360 --> 00:05:31,560 Speaker 4: answered my previous post. My grandparents called for an urgent 129 00:05:31,680 --> 00:05:34,960 Speaker 4: family meeting this afternoon. Me, my sister, father, and mother 130 00:05:35,080 --> 00:05:38,480 Speaker 4: went as soon as we could. When we arrived, Bianca 131 00:05:38,640 --> 00:05:41,000 Speaker 4: was already there, As some of you suggested, I called 132 00:05:41,040 --> 00:05:43,599 Speaker 4: her into the other room and apologized for airing the 133 00:05:43,640 --> 00:05:46,320 Speaker 4: dirty laundry in front of everyone. She cried a little 134 00:05:46,360 --> 00:05:48,919 Speaker 4: and apologized for being mad at me, thanking me because 135 00:05:49,000 --> 00:05:51,279 Speaker 4: if I hadn't taken the picture, she wouldn't have believed me, 136 00:05:51,480 --> 00:05:53,800 Speaker 4: as she's been with Vincent for five years. 137 00:05:54,200 --> 00:05:59,720 Speaker 5: No, I oh, now that means that the aunt was 138 00:05:59,839 --> 00:06:02,800 Speaker 5: made be doing some groomy type behavior because they're twenty one, 139 00:06:03,279 --> 00:06:04,839 Speaker 5: so he was what sixteen? 140 00:06:05,000 --> 00:06:06,360 Speaker 3: I mean they started dating. 141 00:06:06,480 --> 00:06:09,320 Speaker 4: It's it's like triple weird. She hugged me, which was 142 00:06:09,320 --> 00:06:11,880 Speaker 4: a bit awkward since we haven't hugged in many years. 143 00:06:11,960 --> 00:06:15,200 Speaker 4: To give you a rundown, Vincent left with Commy last 144 00:06:15,279 --> 00:06:18,600 Speaker 4: night and broke up with Bianca overtext. Freaking song. 145 00:06:18,720 --> 00:06:22,240 Speaker 5: Whoa freaking size he's dedicated to being. 146 00:06:23,600 --> 00:06:25,440 Speaker 4: He's like, you know what, not only am I not 147 00:06:25,480 --> 00:06:27,200 Speaker 4: going to talk to her about me cheating on her, 148 00:06:27,240 --> 00:06:28,960 Speaker 4: I'm just gonna break up with her overtext? 149 00:06:29,040 --> 00:06:32,280 Speaker 3: Yeah, breaking up with you and I'm leaving with your aunt. 150 00:06:32,520 --> 00:06:34,880 Speaker 4: When Commy showed up at the family meeting, she was 151 00:06:34,920 --> 00:06:38,080 Speaker 4: bombarded with questions like when did it start? How did 152 00:06:38,120 --> 00:06:40,760 Speaker 4: it start? She answered calmly, although it seemed like she 153 00:06:40,839 --> 00:06:43,880 Speaker 4: cried a lot during the night. The affairs started. Ah, 154 00:06:43,920 --> 00:06:46,440 Speaker 4: when Vincent turned eighteen. 155 00:06:46,360 --> 00:06:48,880 Speaker 3: Oh my, God, he got groomed by the end. 156 00:06:49,279 --> 00:06:52,520 Speaker 4: No, that's also really sad. Oh, like obviously you know 157 00:06:52,680 --> 00:06:55,599 Speaker 4: he has his own part to play in the cheating. Yeah, 158 00:06:55,600 --> 00:06:58,320 Speaker 4: but definitely a lot of like definitely grooming here. That's 159 00:06:58,400 --> 00:06:59,719 Speaker 4: because if he just turned it. 160 00:07:00,400 --> 00:07:02,240 Speaker 3: Yeah, really sad, disgusting. 161 00:07:02,360 --> 00:07:05,360 Speaker 4: So three years ago, at a previous birthday at Bianca, 162 00:07:05,440 --> 00:07:08,640 Speaker 4: my mother, who had been on her side before, was disgusted. 163 00:07:09,000 --> 00:07:14,120 Speaker 4: My grandparents admitted knowing and encouraging the affair, but apologized. 164 00:07:14,440 --> 00:07:19,160 Speaker 4: What who's encouraging that behavior? What is wrong with this family? 165 00:07:19,200 --> 00:07:22,080 Speaker 4: The mom and the grandparents were both on her side. 166 00:07:22,280 --> 00:07:24,920 Speaker 4: Bianca stormed off and said that she would cut everyone 167 00:07:24,960 --> 00:07:27,080 Speaker 4: who kept in touch with Kamie off. I did not 168 00:07:27,240 --> 00:07:29,680 Speaker 4: follow her, as we are not close. I forgot to 169 00:07:29,720 --> 00:07:32,320 Speaker 4: mention in my previous post, but Kamie is not just 170 00:07:32,440 --> 00:07:35,640 Speaker 4: my aunt. She's my godmother, which is a very important 171 00:07:35,720 --> 00:07:38,560 Speaker 4: title where I live like a second mother. As she 172 00:07:38,680 --> 00:07:41,120 Speaker 4: was leaving, the family had decided to cast her out, 173 00:07:41,400 --> 00:07:44,280 Speaker 4: she asked if she could talk to me. Curious, I went. 174 00:07:44,480 --> 00:07:46,920 Speaker 4: She told me she was sorry, and I said I 175 00:07:47,000 --> 00:07:49,160 Speaker 4: was not the one she should apologize to. I said 176 00:07:49,200 --> 00:07:52,480 Speaker 4: she was praying on Vincent, but She vehemently denies it, 177 00:07:52,600 --> 00:07:55,160 Speaker 4: saying she never had eyes for him before he was eighteen. 178 00:07:55,360 --> 00:07:59,440 Speaker 4: Yeah right, I said. She started crying, saying it was 179 00:07:59,480 --> 00:08:01,520 Speaker 4: a mistake and she would do anything to have her 180 00:08:01,560 --> 00:08:04,040 Speaker 4: family back. I said, I was not the one wronged, 181 00:08:04,080 --> 00:08:06,160 Speaker 4: but I will not forgive you and will cut you 182 00:08:06,240 --> 00:08:09,040 Speaker 4: off as your actions tell me a lot about your morals. 183 00:08:09,080 --> 00:08:13,440 Speaker 4: Do not contact me ever again. She cried, begged, and pleaded, 184 00:08:13,520 --> 00:08:16,040 Speaker 4: saying I was like a daughter to her. By the way, 185 00:08:16,240 --> 00:08:18,320 Speaker 4: you could be like a daughter to us and join 186 00:08:18,400 --> 00:08:21,800 Speaker 4: us live every week ten three PMSD just tap that profile. 187 00:08:22,440 --> 00:08:25,920 Speaker 4: So I said, I'm a psychopathic, heartless be word after all? 188 00:08:26,440 --> 00:08:29,720 Speaker 5: Oh oh wait, whoa Oh She's throwing it back at 189 00:08:29,760 --> 00:08:31,840 Speaker 5: her because she was like, oh, I'm a like, you're 190 00:08:31,880 --> 00:08:33,600 Speaker 5: like a daughter to me, And she's like, I don't care, 191 00:08:34,000 --> 00:08:36,280 Speaker 5: I'm a psychopathic B word after you know, I guess 192 00:08:36,320 --> 00:08:37,800 Speaker 5: you were right about me when you said I was 193 00:08:37,880 --> 00:08:39,720 Speaker 5: a psychopathic A word. 194 00:08:39,800 --> 00:08:42,040 Speaker 4: And then she dropped the mic that she'd been caring wow, 195 00:08:42,200 --> 00:08:45,400 Speaker 4: and left. She tried calling and messaging, but I blocked 196 00:08:45,440 --> 00:08:47,920 Speaker 4: her everywhere, as did the rest of my family. I 197 00:08:47,960 --> 00:08:50,520 Speaker 4: don't think I will update again, but thanks to everyone 198 00:08:50,600 --> 00:08:52,960 Speaker 4: who tried to help and gave your input. And there 199 00:08:53,000 --> 00:08:56,360 Speaker 4: are some comments from Op as well. To finish this 200 00:08:56,520 --> 00:08:58,319 Speaker 4: story off, But what are you all thoughts. 201 00:08:58,480 --> 00:09:00,720 Speaker 3: I think she handled that perfect. Yeah, I think she was. 202 00:09:00,760 --> 00:09:03,480 Speaker 4: Like I told Bianca, my aunt tried to come back 203 00:09:03,520 --> 00:09:06,240 Speaker 4: and get forgiveness and I said, no, I'm not talking 204 00:09:06,280 --> 00:09:06,480 Speaker 4: to you. 205 00:09:06,640 --> 00:09:08,840 Speaker 5: Yeah, there is like a little red flag with the 206 00:09:08,880 --> 00:09:10,480 Speaker 5: family being like so supportive of it. 207 00:09:10,520 --> 00:09:12,600 Speaker 3: But honestly, I don't. 208 00:09:12,400 --> 00:09:14,839 Speaker 5: Think Ope is Like I think OPI's in a good 209 00:09:14,880 --> 00:09:17,679 Speaker 5: place to sort of just like move beyond those people 210 00:09:17,720 --> 00:09:19,640 Speaker 5: in her life. Yeah, and just sort of not let 211 00:09:19,679 --> 00:09:21,079 Speaker 5: that like impact or affect her. 212 00:09:21,360 --> 00:09:23,840 Speaker 4: But Op, you're not the ale, Wacky Spath says, not 213 00:09:23,920 --> 00:09:26,320 Speaker 4: the ale. This woman groomed a kid and then started 214 00:09:26,360 --> 00:09:29,880 Speaker 4: sleeping with them, supposedly at eighteen. It's sick as suck 215 00:09:29,920 --> 00:09:33,320 Speaker 4: gets add to that she's doing her niece's boyfriend. It's 216 00:09:33,400 --> 00:09:37,120 Speaker 4: even more sick. Grandparents are disgusting too. This isn't an 217 00:09:37,120 --> 00:09:40,600 Speaker 4: empathy question, this is basic morality. A man in Black says. 218 00:09:40,640 --> 00:09:43,240 Speaker 4: It's kind of telling that even the diagnosed psychopath has 219 00:09:43,240 --> 00:09:45,600 Speaker 4: a better understanding of right and wrong than the cheating 220 00:09:45,679 --> 00:09:49,320 Speaker 4: rumor right. It's wild. How the so called the psychopath 221 00:09:49,520 --> 00:09:53,079 Speaker 4: is showing more loyalty and ethics than the entire family 222 00:09:53,080 --> 00:09:55,000 Speaker 4: who condoned this gross betrayal. 223 00:09:55,080 --> 00:09:57,680 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's crazy they condoned it. They were like all 224 00:09:57,840 --> 00:09:58,800 Speaker 3: for it, Like what. 225 00:09:59,280 --> 00:10:00,600 Speaker 4: I think they should go get tested. 226 00:10:00,679 --> 00:10:02,520 Speaker 3: Did the aunt just need a win? 227 00:10:02,760 --> 00:10:03,040 Speaker 6: Like that? 228 00:10:03,280 --> 00:10:06,040 Speaker 5: Bad? They are like her whole life, she's never she's 229 00:10:06,040 --> 00:10:08,160 Speaker 5: never had anything good in her life. 230 00:10:08,240 --> 00:10:11,600 Speaker 4: Hidden Agenda says, why the f would your grandparents encourage that? 231 00:10:11,800 --> 00:10:14,559 Speaker 4: I'd honestly cut them off too. They encouraged her grooming 232 00:10:14,559 --> 00:10:16,440 Speaker 4: a child and sleeping with him as soon as he 233 00:10:16,559 --> 00:10:20,319 Speaker 4: was eighteen, Not just any child, but your cousin's boyfriend. 234 00:10:20,480 --> 00:10:23,520 Speaker 4: Grous Opie says, I have no idea why they encouraged it, 235 00:10:23,559 --> 00:10:26,920 Speaker 4: as at the time nobody asked. My guess is Commie 236 00:10:26,960 --> 00:10:29,840 Speaker 4: has always been the golden child of theirs as long 237 00:10:29,880 --> 00:10:33,080 Speaker 4: as I've lived. She can do no wrong in their eyes. 238 00:10:33,280 --> 00:10:35,760 Speaker 4: Once she totaled my mother's car and they convinced my 239 00:10:35,800 --> 00:10:38,440 Speaker 4: mother to not make her pay like at all? 240 00:10:38,600 --> 00:10:42,079 Speaker 5: What So it's the opposite of she's never had a win, 241 00:10:42,280 --> 00:10:45,080 Speaker 5: she's her whole life has been a walking w for her. 242 00:10:45,480 --> 00:10:48,040 Speaker 4: Me and my sister Bianca will be cutting them off. 243 00:10:48,160 --> 00:10:50,280 Speaker 4: I am yet to know about the rest of the family, 244 00:10:50,559 --> 00:10:52,440 Speaker 4: and that is the end of that story. But I 245 00:10:52,440 --> 00:10:53,280 Speaker 4: think that's the right move. 246 00:10:53,400 --> 00:10:55,120 Speaker 3: Just cut them off. Yeah, it just and I think 247 00:10:55,200 --> 00:10:58,360 Speaker 3: you're on the right path. My boyfriend seems to get 248 00:10:58,400 --> 00:11:01,480 Speaker 3: along with everyone. Turns out he's a psychopath. 249 00:11:02,120 --> 00:11:03,840 Speaker 6: Oh that's a big no. 250 00:11:03,840 --> 00:11:06,120 Speaker 3: No, I can't just be friendly these days. I've been 251 00:11:06,120 --> 00:11:08,480 Speaker 3: with him for about six months and that I've known 252 00:11:08,559 --> 00:11:11,560 Speaker 3: him for about three months before that, total nine. He's 253 00:11:11,600 --> 00:11:14,559 Speaker 3: gorgeous and witty, intelligent and charismatic. 254 00:11:14,640 --> 00:11:16,040 Speaker 6: That's how they get you in the beginning. 255 00:11:16,240 --> 00:11:19,920 Speaker 3: Genuinely not at all what I stereotyped a psychopath to be. 256 00:11:20,120 --> 00:11:22,200 Speaker 3: I truly would have never known it. By the way, 257 00:11:22,280 --> 00:11:25,560 Speaker 3: this comes from deleted on the r slash okay story, 258 00:11:25,600 --> 00:11:26,160 Speaker 3: Tom sub. 259 00:11:26,280 --> 00:11:27,080 Speaker 6: I hope you're okay. 260 00:11:28,120 --> 00:11:31,360 Speaker 3: So sometimes he can be a little cold, a little dry, 261 00:11:31,679 --> 00:11:34,199 Speaker 3: and there have been times in our relationship where I'm 262 00:11:34,240 --> 00:11:37,400 Speaker 3: expressing something he's done to express me that I am 263 00:11:37,880 --> 00:11:41,000 Speaker 3: catching the drift. He's genuinely does not give an f 264 00:11:41,600 --> 00:11:44,640 Speaker 3: even if he amends it. Okay, So he like has 265 00:11:44,679 --> 00:11:45,199 Speaker 3: a long sentence. 266 00:11:45,280 --> 00:11:47,560 Speaker 6: Yeah, that is a long sentence. I was gonna say so, 267 00:11:47,720 --> 00:11:50,560 Speaker 6: I guess that sentence trying to say like he can tell, 268 00:11:50,640 --> 00:11:52,400 Speaker 6: like he can. He's like he can, he knows what's 269 00:11:52,440 --> 00:11:55,480 Speaker 6: going on, like yeah, but he doesn't care. Yeah, if 270 00:11:55,480 --> 00:11:57,319 Speaker 6: something's bothering you, like oh. 271 00:11:57,280 --> 00:11:58,720 Speaker 3: He doesn't really read the room that much. 272 00:11:58,800 --> 00:12:00,960 Speaker 6: He's like, Okay, I understand, I don't care. Yeah, he 273 00:12:01,000 --> 00:12:03,600 Speaker 6: knows what the room is, doesn't care, Okay, okay. My 274 00:12:03,640 --> 00:12:07,760 Speaker 6: biggest clue, however, was watching him adapt insanely good depending 275 00:12:07,920 --> 00:12:11,880 Speaker 6: on those around him. We've always been in the same 276 00:12:11,960 --> 00:12:14,920 Speaker 6: friend group, so I've always seen him act a certain way, 277 00:12:15,320 --> 00:12:18,120 Speaker 6: behave a certain way, and yes, being his girlfriend, I 278 00:12:18,120 --> 00:12:22,120 Speaker 6: get a different side to him. But barely two nights ago, 279 00:12:22,240 --> 00:12:24,439 Speaker 6: when I went to a work event for his work 280 00:12:24,720 --> 00:12:28,960 Speaker 6: with him and I watching an effing awe, he literally 281 00:12:29,320 --> 00:12:35,160 Speaker 6: acted like an entirely different person. Oh, everyone loves him 282 00:12:35,160 --> 00:12:38,040 Speaker 6: because how he was acting exactly how they wanted him 283 00:12:38,080 --> 00:12:39,440 Speaker 6: to needed him to. 284 00:12:39,920 --> 00:12:45,600 Speaker 3: Nah, dude, he's just a secretary just behavior. No, No, 285 00:12:45,720 --> 00:12:46,800 Speaker 3: he's such a cancer. 286 00:12:46,960 --> 00:12:48,560 Speaker 6: Yeah, d he's just people pleaser. 287 00:12:49,679 --> 00:12:53,600 Speaker 3: The jokes they told that, I could have sworn he 288 00:12:53,679 --> 00:12:57,280 Speaker 3: would think they were horrendous. He laughed at and made 289 00:12:57,360 --> 00:13:00,920 Speaker 3: similar jokes Wow, topics of discussion he does not care for. 290 00:13:01,120 --> 00:13:04,400 Speaker 3: They brought up, and he talked with him with amazing interest. 291 00:13:04,920 --> 00:13:07,880 Speaker 3: It was like he had morphed into this amazing person 292 00:13:07,920 --> 00:13:11,040 Speaker 3: for them, one nothing like the person I was used to. 293 00:13:11,559 --> 00:13:13,880 Speaker 3: I asked him about it on the drive back to 294 00:13:13,960 --> 00:13:16,960 Speaker 3: my place. He tried to gaslight me and acted he 295 00:13:17,040 --> 00:13:19,920 Speaker 3: was normal. I didn't buy it. I didn't invite him 296 00:13:19,960 --> 00:13:22,480 Speaker 3: to my place like I always did, and I guess 297 00:13:22,679 --> 00:13:25,920 Speaker 3: that's when he figured out I was mad. He didn't 298 00:13:25,920 --> 00:13:28,600 Speaker 3: contact me for two days. 299 00:13:29,559 --> 00:13:32,880 Speaker 6: Whoa wait, wait wait, So they went to the work event. 300 00:13:32,920 --> 00:13:35,280 Speaker 6: They went to the work event. He was the he was, 301 00:13:35,360 --> 00:13:38,120 Speaker 6: he was the guy he was, he was two facing it. Yeah, 302 00:13:38,520 --> 00:13:38,880 Speaker 6: I don't know. 303 00:13:38,920 --> 00:13:41,280 Speaker 3: Maybe sometimes people put on their work voice. 304 00:13:41,360 --> 00:13:42,680 Speaker 6: Yeah, no, I do that all the time. 305 00:13:42,720 --> 00:13:44,440 Speaker 3: It's like, oh, hello, how might I help you? And 306 00:13:44,440 --> 00:13:46,920 Speaker 3: then it's like, oh, okay, forget there with this person. 307 00:13:47,000 --> 00:13:48,360 Speaker 3: Uh you know? Yeah, I don't. 308 00:13:48,400 --> 00:13:50,959 Speaker 6: I don't know, especially if he's doing well and he's 309 00:13:50,960 --> 00:13:54,840 Speaker 6: succeeding and that like people like him in the workplace. 310 00:13:55,120 --> 00:13:57,360 Speaker 3: But the fact that he's not a minute, no, I'm 311 00:13:57,400 --> 00:13:58,040 Speaker 3: the same person. 312 00:13:58,280 --> 00:14:00,640 Speaker 6: Yeah, that's where it gets a little weird, where and 313 00:14:00,720 --> 00:14:03,040 Speaker 6: everyone likes him, well, I mean Op likes him. Like 314 00:14:03,360 --> 00:14:07,600 Speaker 6: OP said, he's witty, he's charming. Yeah, of course him. 315 00:14:07,600 --> 00:14:10,160 Speaker 3: I can't stop thinking about Joe from you, Okay. I 316 00:14:10,200 --> 00:14:11,640 Speaker 3: can't stop thinking about him like. 317 00:14:11,640 --> 00:14:14,080 Speaker 6: He just wants He's literally the person that everyone wants 318 00:14:14,120 --> 00:14:17,040 Speaker 6: him to be. Maybe he's doing that for you to Op. 319 00:14:17,520 --> 00:14:19,880 Speaker 6: Maybe you didn't think about that. Mmmm well maybe you 320 00:14:19,920 --> 00:14:22,800 Speaker 6: did later in the story. But let's see, my boyfriend 321 00:14:22,840 --> 00:14:26,040 Speaker 6: had upset me and he doesn't care to contact me. 322 00:14:26,600 --> 00:14:30,560 Speaker 3: Okay. Then he ended up showing up and insisting on 323 00:14:30,680 --> 00:14:34,640 Speaker 3: talking to me, and he told me he was a psychopath. 324 00:14:35,160 --> 00:14:36,359 Speaker 6: Oh, right out the floodgates. 325 00:14:36,680 --> 00:14:41,160 Speaker 3: I got in his face and told him to get out. 326 00:14:41,760 --> 00:14:45,720 Speaker 3: He brought his medical information with him to prove it, 327 00:14:45,840 --> 00:14:53,120 Speaker 3: all the tests, the diagnosis, all of it. I was floored. Dude, 328 00:14:53,640 --> 00:14:57,320 Speaker 3: Oh there could there could be good psycho paths out there, right, 329 00:14:57,400 --> 00:14:57,800 Speaker 3: I don't know. 330 00:14:58,200 --> 00:15:00,600 Speaker 6: I don't know. If this guy already maybe the medical 331 00:15:00,680 --> 00:15:04,320 Speaker 6: documents that hey, I'm a psychopath, I would be like, okay, 332 00:15:05,080 --> 00:15:07,760 Speaker 6: what does this consist of? Like, like, what does this mean? 333 00:15:07,880 --> 00:15:10,200 Speaker 6: What is this? What's your cycle? Like analysis? 334 00:15:10,280 --> 00:15:13,080 Speaker 3: He told me that people like him are extremely good 335 00:15:13,120 --> 00:15:17,440 Speaker 3: at adapting to social situations that serve them to fit into. 336 00:15:17,840 --> 00:15:21,080 Speaker 3: Of course, being friendly and liked at work served him. 337 00:15:21,120 --> 00:15:23,640 Speaker 3: It's why he's been promoted so fast. 338 00:15:24,040 --> 00:15:26,640 Speaker 6: Okay, Yeah, it's never a. 339 00:15:26,600 --> 00:15:29,040 Speaker 3: Bad thing to have too many friends. So he masks 340 00:15:29,200 --> 00:15:32,960 Speaker 3: and adapts when meeting new people and screens them to 341 00:15:33,040 --> 00:15:35,800 Speaker 3: decide if he really wants or cares to have them 342 00:15:35,800 --> 00:15:39,320 Speaker 3: for a friend. So being a psychopath helps you financially? 343 00:15:39,440 --> 00:15:45,680 Speaker 6: Am I a psychopath? It's like, I like people. I 344 00:15:45,680 --> 00:15:47,920 Speaker 6: want to be friendly with everyone and talk to everyone. 345 00:15:47,960 --> 00:15:49,640 Speaker 6: If they have a certain thing that they could talk about, 346 00:15:49,680 --> 00:15:50,800 Speaker 6: I could talk to them about it. 347 00:15:51,000 --> 00:15:54,760 Speaker 3: Okay, ok I'm conful. Well, okay, we'll see, we'll see. 348 00:15:54,840 --> 00:15:57,040 Speaker 6: Yeah. Like, well I haven't seen anything negative in. 349 00:15:57,080 --> 00:15:58,840 Speaker 3: The same boat where Yeah, I feel. 350 00:15:58,640 --> 00:16:00,400 Speaker 6: Like everyone does that unless it be like you're not 351 00:16:00,480 --> 00:16:03,680 Speaker 6: like unless if you're introverted, but like as an extrovert, yeah, 352 00:16:03,920 --> 00:16:05,640 Speaker 6: like you want to talk to people, you want to like, Oh, 353 00:16:05,680 --> 00:16:07,040 Speaker 6: you want to meet people, you want to be nice, 354 00:16:07,120 --> 00:16:08,200 Speaker 6: you want to be like all right. 355 00:16:08,120 --> 00:16:10,880 Speaker 3: Yeah, this makes me think, like I know more psychopaths. Yeah? 356 00:16:10,920 --> 00:16:12,800 Speaker 6: Are we being called ou at psychopaths? 357 00:16:13,080 --> 00:16:16,800 Speaker 3: I asked him why me? Why had he made me 358 00:16:16,960 --> 00:16:20,440 Speaker 3: his long term girlfriend. He simply said, I'm at a 359 00:16:20,480 --> 00:16:23,040 Speaker 3: point in my life I think I should have a girlfriend, 360 00:16:23,080 --> 00:16:25,720 Speaker 3: probably one. All Mary, I knew you for three months 361 00:16:25,760 --> 00:16:29,040 Speaker 3: and I liked you enough, so I picked you. 362 00:16:29,440 --> 00:16:31,080 Speaker 6: This conversation is really weird. 363 00:16:32,360 --> 00:16:32,920 Speaker 3: Picked me. 364 00:16:33,160 --> 00:16:35,960 Speaker 6: Yeah, that that's where he got weird. This is I 365 00:16:35,960 --> 00:16:38,440 Speaker 6: don't think psychopaths say that. I think that's that's just 366 00:16:38,480 --> 00:16:39,680 Speaker 6: a weird thing to say. 367 00:16:39,960 --> 00:16:43,080 Speaker 3: He told me. It was when him and I were 368 00:16:43,160 --> 00:16:46,880 Speaker 3: walking back to mine and I made a joke he 369 00:16:47,000 --> 00:16:52,520 Speaker 3: found genuinely funny, and he noticed he found me genuinely pretty, 370 00:16:52,600 --> 00:16:55,920 Speaker 3: and you decided then and there. Yeah, okay, oh, picker, 371 00:16:56,080 --> 00:16:56,600 Speaker 3: this is weird. 372 00:16:56,720 --> 00:16:57,360 Speaker 6: This is weird. 373 00:16:57,440 --> 00:16:58,000 Speaker 3: That was a bar. 374 00:16:58,800 --> 00:17:01,160 Speaker 6: You make one good joke and you all right, yeah 375 00:17:01,160 --> 00:17:01,760 Speaker 6: you're the one. 376 00:17:01,920 --> 00:17:03,920 Speaker 3: Yeah, you know what, Okay, I've picked this one. 377 00:17:04,040 --> 00:17:07,280 Speaker 6: She made me feel laughter. You're mine now, you know, 378 00:17:07,840 --> 00:17:08,760 Speaker 6: I'm not gonna lie. 379 00:17:09,280 --> 00:17:10,880 Speaker 3: I kind of did that with Angie. I was like, dude, 380 00:17:10,880 --> 00:17:12,720 Speaker 3: she's pretty funny, and she she's gorgeous. 381 00:17:13,040 --> 00:17:13,960 Speaker 6: So you're a psychopath. 382 00:17:14,040 --> 00:17:16,760 Speaker 3: So I'm like, yeah, I see where this goes. I 383 00:17:16,760 --> 00:17:18,520 Speaker 3: didn't say I picked her, but I was like, you 384 00:17:18,520 --> 00:17:20,880 Speaker 3: know what, I'll go see where this goes. 385 00:17:20,760 --> 00:17:22,560 Speaker 6: Yeah, she's like, she's the one like she she made 386 00:17:22,560 --> 00:17:24,639 Speaker 6: a funny joke. I'll give her the Oh yeah, you know, 387 00:17:24,800 --> 00:17:25,800 Speaker 6: I'll give her the time of day. 388 00:17:26,119 --> 00:17:29,880 Speaker 3: Dude, this this relates so much. Yeah, I'm hep terrified 389 00:17:29,960 --> 00:17:30,280 Speaker 3: right now? 390 00:17:30,560 --> 00:17:33,200 Speaker 6: Yeah? Are we psychopaths? Very scared? 391 00:17:33,240 --> 00:17:36,960 Speaker 3: Here and boom a month later, we're together. That happened 392 00:17:37,000 --> 00:17:38,720 Speaker 3: to me. It took a month. Oh my god to 393 00:17:38,760 --> 00:17:42,480 Speaker 3: see you. I am so confused. Does this mean he 394 00:17:42,760 --> 00:17:47,040 Speaker 3: likes me? Does he love me? Is this as close 395 00:17:47,040 --> 00:17:50,320 Speaker 3: to love as a psychopath gets? I asked him if 396 00:17:50,359 --> 00:17:53,720 Speaker 3: he's genuinely loved me, and he said I would marry you. 397 00:17:54,080 --> 00:17:57,359 Speaker 3: Doesn't that answer it? No, just say you love her? 398 00:17:57,800 --> 00:18:00,760 Speaker 3: I said I needed time, and he just left. I 399 00:18:00,840 --> 00:18:04,239 Speaker 3: realize I think he's literally doesn't give an f so 400 00:18:04,320 --> 00:18:08,000 Speaker 3: that's why. But he's giving me time. I love him. 401 00:18:08,400 --> 00:18:10,840 Speaker 3: I don't know if I could live with this. I'm 402 00:18:10,880 --> 00:18:14,000 Speaker 3: just confused and I don't know what to tell everyone 403 00:18:14,200 --> 00:18:17,120 Speaker 3: just yet. I feel embarrassed. I haven't figured it out, 404 00:18:17,640 --> 00:18:20,320 Speaker 3: and there is an update. I don't know, man, I 405 00:18:20,400 --> 00:18:20,760 Speaker 3: don't know. 406 00:18:22,640 --> 00:18:24,760 Speaker 6: This guy seems fun, this guy seems like the guy. 407 00:18:24,640 --> 00:18:26,120 Speaker 3: But he is diagnosed. 408 00:18:26,640 --> 00:18:28,159 Speaker 6: Yeah, but what does the dog like. I wish we 409 00:18:28,200 --> 00:18:30,600 Speaker 6: had more information on the diagnosis, like what is his tendencies? 410 00:18:30,640 --> 00:18:33,919 Speaker 6: Because when he said I put on a mask to 411 00:18:34,440 --> 00:18:37,720 Speaker 6: meet everyone's except like everyone's needs and like talk with them. 412 00:18:38,280 --> 00:18:39,920 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I mean is. 413 00:18:39,960 --> 00:18:42,280 Speaker 6: That psychopathic or is that just normal? I don't know. 414 00:18:43,040 --> 00:18:45,120 Speaker 3: First, thanks so much for all of the advice. I 415 00:18:45,160 --> 00:18:48,600 Speaker 3: have read every single comment, and while the general advice 416 00:18:48,920 --> 00:18:51,320 Speaker 3: has been run for my life, I decided it was 417 00:18:51,320 --> 00:18:54,760 Speaker 3: worth one more conversation about it with my boyfriend. Okay, 418 00:18:55,359 --> 00:18:58,760 Speaker 3: I invited him over and asked some questions I'm going 419 00:18:58,800 --> 00:19:02,479 Speaker 3: to type out and how it went me. Why did 420 00:19:02,560 --> 00:19:05,520 Speaker 3: you decide to tell me you were a psychopath? Boyfriend? 421 00:19:06,000 --> 00:19:08,480 Speaker 3: Because you were going to leave me if you didn't 422 00:19:08,520 --> 00:19:11,600 Speaker 3: get a good explanation from my behavior. And I know 423 00:19:12,240 --> 00:19:16,000 Speaker 3: when you leave, you stay gone me. So did you 424 00:19:16,040 --> 00:19:20,240 Speaker 3: tell me to mock my honesty and my vulnerability? Boyfriend? No, 425 00:19:21,119 --> 00:19:23,640 Speaker 3: I was going to cut my losses, which is why 426 00:19:23,840 --> 00:19:26,919 Speaker 3: you didn't hear from me. But I genuinely like you. 427 00:19:27,400 --> 00:19:30,320 Speaker 3: I would miss things from my life if you left. 428 00:19:30,600 --> 00:19:34,040 Speaker 3: You're one of the few people whose company I actually 429 00:19:34,119 --> 00:19:36,520 Speaker 3: seek out and enjoy. And the spicy sleep is great, 430 00:19:36,520 --> 00:19:39,080 Speaker 3: which I think should be noted. So I decided to 431 00:19:39,119 --> 00:19:43,080 Speaker 3: be honest with you me. Do you love me, boyfriend? 432 00:19:43,560 --> 00:19:45,760 Speaker 3: I can say I do, if that's what you like 433 00:19:45,880 --> 00:19:46,200 Speaker 3: to hear. 434 00:19:46,680 --> 00:19:49,080 Speaker 6: Oh, no, this is me that it's like, oh the 435 00:19:49,200 --> 00:19:52,040 Speaker 6: love I love you, But but I'm making an effort 436 00:19:52,200 --> 00:19:54,840 Speaker 6: not to tell you what you want to hear me. 437 00:19:55,840 --> 00:19:58,200 Speaker 6: What do you think I want to hear? Boyfriend? 438 00:19:58,400 --> 00:20:00,520 Speaker 3: That I love you, that you're the only person in 439 00:20:00,560 --> 00:20:02,880 Speaker 3: the world I love and care about, and that I'd 440 00:20:02,920 --> 00:20:06,000 Speaker 3: never hurt you, and you're the only person who gets 441 00:20:06,000 --> 00:20:10,240 Speaker 3: to see the real me. Okay, And what's the truth, boyfriend? 442 00:20:10,640 --> 00:20:13,040 Speaker 3: That I'd marry you because I don't see myself being 443 00:20:13,080 --> 00:20:16,639 Speaker 3: happier in another relationship. That I would miss you if 444 00:20:16,680 --> 00:20:18,920 Speaker 3: you left my life, so I'm not in the business 445 00:20:18,960 --> 00:20:20,720 Speaker 3: of going out of my way to drive you out, 446 00:20:21,160 --> 00:20:23,760 Speaker 3: And that I would try my best to act like 447 00:20:23,840 --> 00:20:27,360 Speaker 3: myself around you and not how you want me to act. 448 00:20:27,720 --> 00:20:30,920 Speaker 3: And how you haven't left me, so that's a good sign. 449 00:20:31,080 --> 00:20:34,560 Speaker 3: No me, why did you say you picked me? Boyfriend? 450 00:20:34,840 --> 00:20:37,239 Speaker 3: Why is this beginning to sound like an interrogation? I'm 451 00:20:37,280 --> 00:20:40,280 Speaker 3: getting my facts sorted, so it kind of is, boyfriend. Okay, 452 00:20:40,280 --> 00:20:43,600 Speaker 3: that's right. I said, it is because it's what I did. 453 00:20:43,840 --> 00:20:46,080 Speaker 3: It was at a point of my life and career 454 00:20:46,119 --> 00:20:48,840 Speaker 3: where I figured I should have a long term girlfriend 455 00:20:49,160 --> 00:20:51,600 Speaker 3: and I wanted that person to be you. 456 00:20:52,320 --> 00:20:57,399 Speaker 6: This conversation is very odd. He says things correctly, and 457 00:20:57,440 --> 00:21:00,480 Speaker 6: then he adds like a sentence that's like so robotic. 458 00:21:00,720 --> 00:21:03,760 Speaker 6: He sounds like old robot. Yeah, he's like, I love you, 459 00:21:03,880 --> 00:21:05,320 Speaker 6: but that's what you wanted to hear. But I do 460 00:21:05,440 --> 00:21:08,320 Speaker 6: genuinely love you. But what why did you add the 461 00:21:08,720 --> 00:21:10,480 Speaker 6: that's what you want to hear? You like? I love you? 462 00:21:10,560 --> 00:21:12,399 Speaker 3: This is how it was brain words, probably, I. 463 00:21:12,400 --> 00:21:15,000 Speaker 6: Guess, but that's very like. Maybe that's where the psychopathic starts. 464 00:21:15,200 --> 00:21:16,200 Speaker 6: I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I 465 00:21:16,240 --> 00:21:17,840 Speaker 6: don't know too much about psychopaths. 466 00:21:17,920 --> 00:21:20,960 Speaker 3: Me because you liked me, boyfriend, because I think that 467 00:21:21,000 --> 00:21:23,639 Speaker 3: you're pretty, and I do generally think you're funny, and 468 00:21:23,680 --> 00:21:27,000 Speaker 3: your beliefs aligned with mine, and I know you very 469 00:21:27,040 --> 00:21:29,520 Speaker 3: well from when we were friends. I knew the type 470 00:21:29,520 --> 00:21:31,480 Speaker 3: of person you were and I thought wo'd be a 471 00:21:31,480 --> 00:21:33,679 Speaker 3: good match, and I was right. So you picked me 472 00:21:33,760 --> 00:21:37,960 Speaker 3: because I checked off a checklist, not because you had 473 00:21:38,119 --> 00:21:40,959 Speaker 3: like a charge crush on me, boyfriend. Yeah, at first 474 00:21:41,119 --> 00:21:44,520 Speaker 3: it was tactical, but I wouldn't have stayed with you 475 00:21:44,680 --> 00:21:48,679 Speaker 3: if I saw you as a walking tick list or 476 00:21:49,000 --> 00:21:51,920 Speaker 3: outside get bored. I'm staying with you and I plan 477 00:21:52,640 --> 00:21:55,600 Speaker 3: to marry you because I like you me. Will you 478 00:21:55,680 --> 00:21:59,119 Speaker 3: ever love me? Boyfriend? I'll do for you what a 479 00:21:59,160 --> 00:22:01,280 Speaker 3: boyfriend who loves you does me? 480 00:22:02,240 --> 00:22:02,479 Speaker 1: Is it? 481 00:22:02,480 --> 00:22:05,400 Speaker 3: Because your best interest is to keep me happy? Boyfriend? 482 00:22:06,080 --> 00:22:08,840 Speaker 3: That's what all boyfriends do. They do things to keep 483 00:22:08,880 --> 00:22:11,919 Speaker 3: their girlfriends happy because it serves them to have a 484 00:22:11,960 --> 00:22:15,080 Speaker 3: happy relationship. And I've done a good job because we 485 00:22:15,200 --> 00:22:18,320 Speaker 3: have had a happy relationship me. So do you mind 486 00:22:18,359 --> 00:22:21,480 Speaker 3: if you do that? Boyfriend? No, because you're happy, which 487 00:22:21,480 --> 00:22:24,359 Speaker 3: means I am. Because when you're pissed and impacts my 488 00:22:24,440 --> 00:22:27,480 Speaker 3: life in ways I don't want it to me. And 489 00:22:27,560 --> 00:22:31,399 Speaker 3: if I died, would you be sad? Boyfriend? That was 490 00:22:31,400 --> 00:22:35,560 Speaker 3: a dumb thing to say me. Would you boyfriend? I'd 491 00:22:35,600 --> 00:22:38,840 Speaker 3: miss you, but I wouldn't be sad in the way 492 00:22:39,000 --> 00:22:41,720 Speaker 3: you'd like me to be. Me. Do you ever care 493 00:22:41,880 --> 00:22:44,399 Speaker 3: when I'm sided? And you don't have to be sad? 494 00:22:44,560 --> 00:22:46,720 Speaker 3: Because we go live every weekday at three PMPST. 495 00:22:46,960 --> 00:22:49,760 Speaker 6: Just type our profile, tap it what in the world 496 00:22:50,600 --> 00:22:53,639 Speaker 6: both of them, both of the questioning that she's asking 497 00:22:53,800 --> 00:22:56,920 Speaker 6: is so weird. I feel like him yet, like I 498 00:22:56,960 --> 00:22:58,520 Speaker 6: feel like they're both asking like but I feel they're 499 00:22:58,520 --> 00:23:00,679 Speaker 6: both robots. I don't know this is this is a 500 00:23:00,680 --> 00:23:01,520 Speaker 6: weird conversation. 501 00:23:01,600 --> 00:23:02,120 Speaker 3: This is weird. 502 00:23:02,160 --> 00:23:04,440 Speaker 6: This is making me like not like it makes me 503 00:23:04,520 --> 00:23:05,040 Speaker 6: kind of cringe. 504 00:23:05,119 --> 00:23:07,480 Speaker 3: Yeah, it sounds like like there's a robot inside of him, 505 00:23:07,560 --> 00:23:08,879 Speaker 3: like like. 506 00:23:08,840 --> 00:23:11,159 Speaker 6: This is how emotion works, and this is what you 507 00:23:11,160 --> 00:23:14,240 Speaker 6: want to hear. That's what my programming says and data shows, 508 00:23:14,320 --> 00:23:17,720 Speaker 6: and that's what you want. It genuinely does sound sweet, though, No, 509 00:23:18,160 --> 00:23:20,680 Speaker 6: I think he's doing his best to communicate his emotions 510 00:23:20,680 --> 00:23:22,480 Speaker 6: and he understands how this is how his brain works, 511 00:23:22,680 --> 00:23:25,199 Speaker 6: and he does he has found someone he enjoys his 512 00:23:25,240 --> 00:23:28,320 Speaker 6: life with. But this questionnaire is very odd, Like this 513 00:23:28,440 --> 00:23:31,119 Speaker 6: is just a very awkward conversation, and I don't know 514 00:23:31,119 --> 00:23:33,280 Speaker 6: what's going to bothered. It's a very bothered. 515 00:23:33,400 --> 00:23:38,320 Speaker 3: Back to me. Do you ever care when I'm sad? Boyfriend? Yes, 516 00:23:38,400 --> 00:23:41,640 Speaker 3: and no, it doesn't affect me all that much if 517 00:23:41,640 --> 00:23:44,240 Speaker 3: you were sad, unless I know it's going to impact me. 518 00:23:44,800 --> 00:23:47,160 Speaker 3: But I don't like to see you cry. But whether 519 00:23:47,240 --> 00:23:50,600 Speaker 3: I've made you cry or something else hasn't mattered to me. 520 00:23:51,000 --> 00:23:53,440 Speaker 3: I just don't like to see it me. Thanks, who 521 00:23:53,440 --> 00:23:57,600 Speaker 3: else knows? Boyfriend, my parents? That's it me. I want 522 00:23:58,000 --> 00:24:00,240 Speaker 3: I want time to thank this over now, boyfriend friend, 523 00:24:00,640 --> 00:24:03,640 Speaker 3: I'm not going to wait forever me okay. And that's 524 00:24:03,640 --> 00:24:06,200 Speaker 3: how it pretty much went. I have an excellent memory, 525 00:24:06,359 --> 00:24:09,240 Speaker 3: so this is pretty much word for word. Look, based 526 00:24:09,280 --> 00:24:11,920 Speaker 3: off of this conversation, I think I'd like to stay 527 00:24:11,920 --> 00:24:15,480 Speaker 3: with him. But those reading this message who may spotted 528 00:24:15,560 --> 00:24:18,840 Speaker 3: red flags, please do tell me. And that's the end 529 00:24:18,840 --> 00:24:20,679 Speaker 3: of it. I'm gonna I'm gonna track and say if 530 00:24:20,680 --> 00:24:21,480 Speaker 3: there's anyone. 531 00:24:21,280 --> 00:24:23,359 Speaker 6: Look, okay, okay, the fact that he's told you that 532 00:24:23,359 --> 00:24:26,200 Speaker 6: he's a psychopath and only two people know that are 533 00:24:26,280 --> 00:24:29,120 Speaker 6: his parents, that's a very big thing. So he does 534 00:24:29,280 --> 00:24:33,439 Speaker 6: genuinely care. It does seem like the boyfriend genuinely cares 535 00:24:33,960 --> 00:24:36,120 Speaker 6: for op It's deleted. 536 00:24:36,640 --> 00:24:37,400 Speaker 3: It's deleted. 537 00:24:37,560 --> 00:24:39,240 Speaker 6: She's gone, she's gone to she's gone. 538 00:24:40,240 --> 00:24:43,000 Speaker 3: I confuse, guys in the comments, explain to us the 539 00:24:43,040 --> 00:24:44,120 Speaker 3: red flags that you saw. 540 00:24:44,400 --> 00:24:47,800 Speaker 6: I mean, the red flag is oh, Opie says, if 541 00:24:47,840 --> 00:24:52,000 Speaker 6: I passed away, how would you feel? He and he 542 00:24:52,040 --> 00:24:55,280 Speaker 6: says sad, but not to the to the degree of 543 00:24:55,359 --> 00:24:57,399 Speaker 6: like super sad. But I don't I don't know. I 544 00:24:57,440 --> 00:24:58,960 Speaker 6: don't know if he's telling the truth there, because maybe 545 00:24:58,960 --> 00:25:01,520 Speaker 6: he just doesn't know how lost works. It doesn't it 546 00:25:01,520 --> 00:25:04,160 Speaker 6: doesn't hit you until that person is actually like, gone. 547 00:25:04,080 --> 00:25:06,040 Speaker 3: Pretty strange. I'd be treading with Ratt. 548 00:25:06,520 --> 00:25:11,719 Speaker 6: This is definitely treading water carefully because again he's admitted 549 00:25:11,720 --> 00:25:13,639 Speaker 6: that he's a psychopath. But the thing, he's like, I 550 00:25:13,680 --> 00:25:16,600 Speaker 6: want to be real with you because I like you, 551 00:25:16,880 --> 00:25:19,720 Speaker 6: So he does like, Ope, this is just very odd. Again, 552 00:25:19,840 --> 00:25:22,800 Speaker 6: like we said earlier, Yeah, I don't know. This is 553 00:25:22,880 --> 00:25:24,760 Speaker 6: not for me, not for me, but if you can 554 00:25:24,800 --> 00:25:26,560 Speaker 6: figure it out, yeah, let us know in the comments 555 00:25:26,560 --> 00:25:28,880 Speaker 6: because I can't wrap my head around how this conversation went. 556 00:25:28,920 --> 00:25:33,240 Speaker 6: And then she op was like this is fine, I guess, 557 00:25:33,920 --> 00:25:38,040 Speaker 6: and he's like, this is fine. I guess. Wild that's 558 00:25:38,040 --> 00:25:40,399 Speaker 6: a weird that was a weird that that found like 559 00:25:40,440 --> 00:25:41,320 Speaker 6: a horror movie. 560 00:25:41,400 --> 00:25:44,000 Speaker 3: Yeah, oh, that's the end of the episode. 561 00:25:45,160 --> 00:25:49,400 Speaker 6: My girlfriend wants me to evict my roommate because he's trans. 562 00:25:49,920 --> 00:25:52,440 Speaker 6: I twenty two male have a roommate. Let's call him 563 00:25:52,600 --> 00:25:55,720 Speaker 6: Alex male twenty three who moved in about six months ago. 564 00:25:56,040 --> 00:25:59,439 Speaker 6: I honestly never considered Alex to be trans, not that 565 00:25:59,480 --> 00:26:02,440 Speaker 6: I would care he was, but that's not the issue. 566 00:26:02,480 --> 00:26:04,560 Speaker 6: He is a short guy and probably under one hundred 567 00:26:04,560 --> 00:26:07,920 Speaker 6: and sixty five centimeters five five to five keon size 568 00:26:08,160 --> 00:26:10,760 Speaker 6: five to seven, but yes my size, has a lot 569 00:26:10,800 --> 00:26:13,280 Speaker 6: of facial hair muscles, and looks a lot like a 570 00:26:13,320 --> 00:26:16,240 Speaker 6: short Henry Cavill in my opinion, m okay. No one 571 00:26:16,240 --> 00:26:19,040 Speaker 6: I know has ever brought this idea before. I've had 572 00:26:19,080 --> 00:26:21,760 Speaker 6: many friends and family at our apartment and they've never 573 00:26:21,760 --> 00:26:23,679 Speaker 6: said anything. This is really the part that gets to 574 00:26:23,680 --> 00:26:26,119 Speaker 6: me because my mom is extremely against any gay people, 575 00:26:26,200 --> 00:26:28,200 Speaker 6: and if she sends anything was up, she would have 576 00:26:28,280 --> 00:26:30,720 Speaker 6: caused problems right away. By the way, this comes from 577 00:26:30,840 --> 00:26:33,239 Speaker 6: user used your name on on the r slasho Ky 578 00:26:33,280 --> 00:26:36,640 Speaker 6: Storytime suppered it. So Alex and I get along. We're polite, 579 00:26:36,680 --> 00:26:40,439 Speaker 6: but not really friends. He's quiet, but again super polite. 580 00:26:40,920 --> 00:26:43,280 Speaker 6: He always pays rent on time, helps with the chores, 581 00:26:43,480 --> 00:26:45,800 Speaker 6: and even shares his cooking with me. I appreciate having 582 00:26:45,840 --> 00:26:48,800 Speaker 6: him around, especially because my last three roommates were each 583 00:26:48,960 --> 00:26:51,639 Speaker 6: their own horror story. The issue came up with my 584 00:26:51,800 --> 00:26:55,320 Speaker 6: girlfriend let's call her Sarah female twenty eight. She came 585 00:26:55,359 --> 00:26:59,240 Speaker 6: over one day Alex was shirtless. To clarify, I forgot 586 00:26:59,240 --> 00:27:01,960 Speaker 6: to tell Alex she was coming over and she noticed 587 00:27:02,000 --> 00:27:04,679 Speaker 6: the scars on his chest. After that, she was quiet 588 00:27:04,720 --> 00:27:08,040 Speaker 6: and short with me with her entire stay there. When 589 00:27:08,040 --> 00:27:10,680 Speaker 6: she got home, she blew up my phone asking why 590 00:27:10,680 --> 00:27:14,520 Speaker 6: I had a female living with me. I was confused 591 00:27:14,600 --> 00:27:17,840 Speaker 6: and asked what she was on about. She says that 592 00:27:17,880 --> 00:27:21,040 Speaker 6: she knows that his scars are from top surgery and 593 00:27:21,080 --> 00:27:23,640 Speaker 6: that he is a short. That he is short, so 594 00:27:23,680 --> 00:27:26,440 Speaker 6: he has to be trans or be born a female. 595 00:27:26,520 --> 00:27:28,720 Speaker 6: I tried to explain that even if it Alex is 596 00:27:28,840 --> 00:27:32,040 Speaker 6: trans or born female, that there's no way I'd be 597 00:27:32,040 --> 00:27:34,600 Speaker 6: attracted to him because to any person who looked at him, 598 00:27:34,800 --> 00:27:38,040 Speaker 6: you would see a freaking guy. Plus, he's respectful and 599 00:27:38,119 --> 00:27:40,840 Speaker 6: doesn't cause drama like my last roommates, which again she 600 00:27:40,920 --> 00:27:41,359 Speaker 6: knows about. 601 00:27:41,520 --> 00:27:43,080 Speaker 3: Yeah that's nice, no drama. 602 00:27:43,280 --> 00:27:46,000 Speaker 6: Oh man, what's wrong here? Is? What is the what 603 00:27:46,080 --> 00:27:46,920 Speaker 6: is the problem here? 604 00:27:47,160 --> 00:27:47,720 Speaker 3: Yeah? 605 00:27:47,800 --> 00:27:49,760 Speaker 6: Yeah, Alex, I mean it hasn't been stated. 606 00:27:49,960 --> 00:27:52,360 Speaker 3: It seems like the home life girlfriend maybe a little 607 00:27:52,480 --> 00:27:53,120 Speaker 3: jealous here. 608 00:27:54,040 --> 00:27:56,760 Speaker 6: Just to be clear, I honestly still have no idea 609 00:27:56,800 --> 00:27:59,480 Speaker 6: if Alex is even trans, so we don't even. 610 00:27:59,320 --> 00:28:01,320 Speaker 3: Know for her, not even dred percent. 611 00:28:01,440 --> 00:28:04,000 Speaker 6: So the girlfriend is just jumping to conclusions. And that's 612 00:28:04,040 --> 00:28:06,440 Speaker 6: the worst part. I googled it, and those scars could 613 00:28:06,440 --> 00:28:10,160 Speaker 6: be from some other surgery, like heart surgery or something 614 00:28:10,160 --> 00:28:12,320 Speaker 6: along those lines. And I really don't have an argument 615 00:28:12,359 --> 00:28:14,119 Speaker 6: for him being short, but there is a lot of 616 00:28:14,160 --> 00:28:16,919 Speaker 6: short men. Hi. At first, Sarah wanted me to just 617 00:28:16,960 --> 00:28:19,639 Speaker 6: ask Alex if he was trans, which why the f 618 00:28:19,720 --> 00:28:21,920 Speaker 6: would I do that? Or give her his last name 619 00:28:21,960 --> 00:28:24,040 Speaker 6: so she can run a background check. Oh whoa, I 620 00:28:24,080 --> 00:28:25,280 Speaker 6: said no to both. 621 00:28:25,560 --> 00:28:26,200 Speaker 3: Kind of creepy. 622 00:28:26,280 --> 00:28:29,040 Speaker 6: That's very odd. Then she said this was a violation 623 00:28:29,119 --> 00:28:31,640 Speaker 6: of trust and that if I didn't either find out 624 00:28:31,680 --> 00:28:34,760 Speaker 6: if Alex is trans and kick him out or just 625 00:28:34,840 --> 00:28:37,760 Speaker 6: kick him out, that she would have to reevaluate things. 626 00:28:38,080 --> 00:28:42,640 Speaker 6: Whoa basically threatening to break up should reevaluate? 627 00:28:42,680 --> 00:28:43,960 Speaker 3: How joeus who are right now? 628 00:28:44,120 --> 00:28:45,240 Speaker 6: This is very stupid? 629 00:28:45,640 --> 00:28:46,520 Speaker 3: Yeah, this is weird. 630 00:28:47,120 --> 00:28:51,040 Speaker 6: I said, I don't do ultimatums and that we're done. 631 00:28:51,440 --> 00:28:55,800 Speaker 3: Nice wow boundaries, Right then, that's fair. 632 00:28:55,920 --> 00:28:59,160 Speaker 6: Since then, she's been messaging me every single day for 633 00:28:59,280 --> 00:29:01,840 Speaker 6: over two weeks, even after I blocked her on everything 634 00:29:02,160 --> 00:29:04,680 Speaker 6: because she wouldn't leave me alone, pissed that I want 635 00:29:04,720 --> 00:29:06,760 Speaker 6: to do this small thing for her. She considered this 636 00:29:06,800 --> 00:29:07,480 Speaker 6: a small thing. 637 00:29:07,640 --> 00:29:08,560 Speaker 3: Ah. 638 00:29:08,680 --> 00:29:12,280 Speaker 6: She ranges from are you effing him? Let's just talk? 639 00:29:12,760 --> 00:29:14,880 Speaker 6: Why can't you at least give me closure and ask him? 640 00:29:15,120 --> 00:29:17,080 Speaker 3: Whoa? All over the place. 641 00:29:16,960 --> 00:29:19,920 Speaker 6: It's yeah, to the most recent her telling our mutual 642 00:29:19,960 --> 00:29:22,840 Speaker 6: friend about the situation. Our friend wants nothing a part 643 00:29:22,880 --> 00:29:25,560 Speaker 6: of this crap show. I didn't feel bad at first, 644 00:29:25,960 --> 00:29:28,640 Speaker 6: but after talking about it online, I've had some people 645 00:29:28,640 --> 00:29:30,560 Speaker 6: say I should have just asked my roommate if he 646 00:29:30,760 --> 00:29:33,440 Speaker 6: was indeed trance, just to keep the peace. What No? 647 00:29:33,880 --> 00:29:36,520 Speaker 3: Then if it was a yes, so it just gotten even. 648 00:29:36,280 --> 00:29:39,000 Speaker 6: Worse, Yeah it would, then she would have used it 649 00:29:39,040 --> 00:29:41,680 Speaker 6: against you. Oh yeah yeah. Or I shouldn't have essentially 650 00:29:41,720 --> 00:29:44,840 Speaker 6: picked my roommate who I've only had about six months 651 00:29:45,000 --> 00:29:48,040 Speaker 6: over my girlfriend of five years five years. I didn't 652 00:29:48,040 --> 00:29:49,760 Speaker 6: even know that was a five yearue relationship. But this 653 00:29:49,800 --> 00:29:50,760 Speaker 6: is what drew the line. 654 00:29:51,240 --> 00:29:54,000 Speaker 3: I guess there has to be other red flags. 655 00:29:54,080 --> 00:29:54,840 Speaker 6: This is very after. 656 00:29:55,000 --> 00:29:56,959 Speaker 3: We're gonna get an update. I guarantee you're gonna get 657 00:29:56,960 --> 00:29:59,160 Speaker 3: an update. We're gonna be like, actually, there's some other 658 00:29:59,200 --> 00:30:01,360 Speaker 3: things that I've noticed about her. That's what's gonna happen. 659 00:30:01,480 --> 00:30:04,440 Speaker 6: Yeah, but nonetheless, this is the way the girlfriend's got 660 00:30:04,480 --> 00:30:07,760 Speaker 6: Sarah is going about this is really crappy. Yeah, I 661 00:30:07,800 --> 00:30:11,640 Speaker 6: wonder if I'm being unreasonable. I legitimately do not see 662 00:30:12,040 --> 00:30:15,280 Speaker 6: how any straight dude could find Alex attractive. Okay, that's 663 00:30:15,320 --> 00:30:16,920 Speaker 6: a little it's a little rough. 664 00:30:17,080 --> 00:30:21,800 Speaker 3: Well, straight dude, straight dude founding another dude attractive. 665 00:30:21,880 --> 00:30:25,479 Speaker 6: I mean, I've Henry Cavill's attractive. Yeah, I'm not saying like, 666 00:30:25,600 --> 00:30:27,800 Speaker 6: oh yeah, I want him. I'm just saying, like he's attractive. Guy. 667 00:30:27,880 --> 00:30:29,840 Speaker 3: Well, I guess from me, he's just trying to see 668 00:30:29,960 --> 00:30:33,920 Speaker 3: the logic. Yeah, think logically, he's like, what, there's no way, like, 669 00:30:34,000 --> 00:30:36,600 Speaker 3: as a straight guy, I'm not gonna find another dude attracted. 670 00:30:36,640 --> 00:30:38,160 Speaker 6: Okay, Okay, yeah, I see what you're saying. I see 671 00:30:38,160 --> 00:30:40,080 Speaker 6: what you're saying. But maybe I should have done something 672 00:30:40,200 --> 00:30:42,840 Speaker 6: just to keep the peace. And there is an update. 673 00:30:42,960 --> 00:30:45,240 Speaker 6: I got advice saying to be upfront and tell him 674 00:30:45,280 --> 00:30:48,520 Speaker 6: what's up, completely hide the transport, and that I should 675 00:30:48,800 --> 00:30:51,440 Speaker 6: just shouldn't tell him. I don't know if this was 676 00:30:51,520 --> 00:30:54,520 Speaker 6: the right thing, but I just told him, because once 677 00:30:54,560 --> 00:30:57,000 Speaker 6: I was face to face with him, I couldn't really help, 678 00:30:57,040 --> 00:30:59,520 Speaker 6: but do it m M. To clarify, I did not 679 00:30:59,600 --> 00:31:03,040 Speaker 6: ask him about his scars or mentioned that specifically. Okay, 680 00:31:03,160 --> 00:31:06,000 Speaker 6: I said my ex girlfriend. My ex girlfriend was under 681 00:31:06,000 --> 00:31:09,080 Speaker 6: the impression he was a transperson. Made sure to say 682 00:31:09,120 --> 00:31:11,240 Speaker 6: I didn't care if he was or wasn't, and that 683 00:31:11,360 --> 00:31:14,560 Speaker 6: I broke things off, changed the gate codes, put her 684 00:31:14,600 --> 00:31:18,240 Speaker 6: on the do not let enlist all that drama. Before 685 00:31:18,280 --> 00:31:21,960 Speaker 6: even saying anything, he asked if I was okay. Like 686 00:31:22,040 --> 00:31:24,720 Speaker 6: I said, he is a chill dude. He also not 687 00:31:24,840 --> 00:31:28,200 Speaker 6: so subtly asked the same questions that a lot of 688 00:31:28,200 --> 00:31:31,160 Speaker 6: comments asked, especially if I was in an abusive situation. 689 00:31:32,080 --> 00:31:34,160 Speaker 6: I told him I don't know, but whatever kind of 690 00:31:34,200 --> 00:31:36,400 Speaker 6: situation it was, it's over. 691 00:31:36,680 --> 00:31:37,080 Speaker 4: Nice. 692 00:31:37,400 --> 00:31:39,440 Speaker 6: Good for OP. At the end, I really appreciate OPI 693 00:31:39,560 --> 00:31:42,360 Speaker 6: like you're doing ultimatums. I'm done with you. 694 00:31:42,560 --> 00:31:43,120 Speaker 3: Yeah. 695 00:31:43,200 --> 00:31:45,400 Speaker 6: The thing that really kind of efft with me is 696 00:31:45,440 --> 00:31:48,239 Speaker 6: that he called me his best friend. Oh wow, I 697 00:31:48,280 --> 00:31:50,840 Speaker 6: regret not saying we were close in other comments. I 698 00:31:50,920 --> 00:31:53,920 Speaker 6: realized now we have different definitions of close because he 699 00:31:54,040 --> 00:31:57,360 Speaker 6: is introverted and I'm not. We talked about irrelevant stuff 700 00:31:57,400 --> 00:32:00,280 Speaker 6: for a while, and then the question came up, would 701 00:32:00,320 --> 00:32:04,760 Speaker 6: you care if I was trans? To summarize things, yes, 702 00:32:05,120 --> 00:32:09,240 Speaker 6: Alex is trans masculine. He had top surgery when he 703 00:32:09,280 --> 00:32:12,240 Speaker 6: was nineteen and has been on hormone since he was eighteen. 704 00:32:12,480 --> 00:32:15,160 Speaker 6: He even has a tattoo with the date he started testosterone. 705 00:32:15,200 --> 00:32:17,640 Speaker 6: While the idea that he could have been a dude 706 00:32:17,680 --> 00:32:22,120 Speaker 6: with guyno cancer or something else is completely reasonable, it 707 00:32:22,320 --> 00:32:25,120 Speaker 6: just happens that Alex is trans, and I don't care 708 00:32:25,160 --> 00:32:28,840 Speaker 6: about that. Alex is Alex. I did show him the 709 00:32:28,880 --> 00:32:31,520 Speaker 6: post to get and got permission to update things, Okay, 710 00:32:31,680 --> 00:32:34,400 Speaker 6: I would have not otherwise. He is also running this 711 00:32:34,440 --> 00:32:37,240 Speaker 6: post somewhere but probably won't comment. Alex is going to 712 00:32:37,240 --> 00:32:39,640 Speaker 6: help me out with finding some low cost or pay 713 00:32:39,640 --> 00:32:42,480 Speaker 6: scale therapy because he personally hasn't heard good things about 714 00:32:42,520 --> 00:32:46,400 Speaker 6: the collegeist therapy services like everyone else has said. Yes, 715 00:32:46,720 --> 00:32:51,160 Speaker 6: it was abuse, Oh wow, wow, So he Opie was 716 00:32:51,200 --> 00:32:53,360 Speaker 6: an abusive relationship because I guess she was just very 717 00:32:53,400 --> 00:32:59,160 Speaker 6: demanding and oh boy, Opie says, I see that. I 718 00:32:59,160 --> 00:33:01,720 Speaker 6: will also hold high your standards for myself in the future. 719 00:33:02,480 --> 00:33:04,959 Speaker 6: Alex sent me the information for the therapist he sees 720 00:33:05,120 --> 00:33:07,680 Speaker 6: and I'll contact them in the morning. The landlord knows 721 00:33:07,760 --> 00:33:10,320 Speaker 6: there is a domestic incident, and I trust him when 722 00:33:10,360 --> 00:33:13,160 Speaker 6: it comes to making sure my ex doesn't show up. 723 00:33:14,040 --> 00:33:16,320 Speaker 6: That do not allow list was made in mind for 724 00:33:16,400 --> 00:33:19,120 Speaker 6: this reason. I'm not ready to talk about my mom 725 00:33:19,200 --> 00:33:22,400 Speaker 6: about this or just yet, but I hope with some 726 00:33:22,480 --> 00:33:25,840 Speaker 6: therapy and time I will be. She knows something is 727 00:33:25,920 --> 00:33:28,360 Speaker 6: going on, but she believes this is a break and 728 00:33:28,440 --> 00:33:31,680 Speaker 6: not a break up. Ooh ope, he's just getting all 729 00:33:31,720 --> 00:33:34,120 Speaker 6: of it. This is a storm of just like a 730 00:33:34,160 --> 00:33:35,040 Speaker 6: lot of realization. 731 00:33:35,280 --> 00:33:37,200 Speaker 3: Yeah, whenever you're in a I mean it sounds like 732 00:33:37,200 --> 00:33:40,000 Speaker 3: they're in college, in a five year relationship. That young. 733 00:33:40,120 --> 00:33:41,160 Speaker 3: This is part of who you are. 734 00:33:41,440 --> 00:33:45,760 Speaker 6: Yeah, that is a piece of you. And knowing that 735 00:33:45,800 --> 00:33:50,120 Speaker 6: this was a very abusive is very hard to come 736 00:33:50,160 --> 00:33:53,120 Speaker 6: to terms with. Sorry if this sounds like rambling, it is. 737 00:33:54,280 --> 00:33:56,640 Speaker 6: This has been a rough couple of weeks. My brain 738 00:33:56,800 --> 00:33:59,960 Speaker 6: is fried and I'm tired. Keep in mind, I'm still 739 00:34:00,080 --> 00:34:02,920 Speaker 6: full time student during this right, Like you said, Riley, 740 00:34:03,600 --> 00:34:06,760 Speaker 6: I also have to keep my grades up for my grants, scholarships, 741 00:34:06,800 --> 00:34:10,359 Speaker 6: government aid, et cetera. Oh wow, I do read all 742 00:34:10,440 --> 00:34:13,560 Speaker 6: the comments even though not so good ones. I will 743 00:34:13,560 --> 00:34:16,200 Speaker 6: try to respond more before I sleep tonight, but just know, 744 00:34:16,520 --> 00:34:19,200 Speaker 6: even if I don't reply, I have read it. I 745 00:34:19,239 --> 00:34:22,480 Speaker 6: appreciate all the advice, kicks in the rear and the sympathy. 746 00:34:22,560 --> 00:34:24,560 Speaker 6: A side note, I have seen a lot of trans 747 00:34:24,600 --> 00:34:26,839 Speaker 6: people comment on this post, and I've had a few 748 00:34:26,880 --> 00:34:29,080 Speaker 6: reach out to me in private. I'm thankful for your 749 00:34:29,120 --> 00:34:31,600 Speaker 6: comments as well. It has brought to my attention how 750 00:34:31,600 --> 00:34:34,680 Speaker 6: tough things are out there, because I honestly felt what 751 00:34:34,760 --> 00:34:37,000 Speaker 6: I did was the bare minimum and not worthy of 752 00:34:37,000 --> 00:34:39,920 Speaker 6: praise because it should just be expected. But I see 753 00:34:39,960 --> 00:34:42,120 Speaker 6: that it is being praise for how low a Barther 754 00:34:42,400 --> 00:34:45,360 Speaker 6: is when it comes to human decency towards you, And 755 00:34:45,400 --> 00:34:48,040 Speaker 6: I'm sorry for that and I hope things get better. 756 00:34:48,200 --> 00:34:48,920 Speaker 6: There's a second up. 757 00:34:49,200 --> 00:34:52,200 Speaker 3: Okay, wow, this was so this was like. 758 00:34:52,200 --> 00:34:56,000 Speaker 6: This update just seem like op is coming to realization. Yeah, 759 00:34:56,040 --> 00:34:57,040 Speaker 6: what is going on? 760 00:34:57,400 --> 00:34:57,920 Speaker 3: Yeah? 761 00:34:57,960 --> 00:35:01,040 Speaker 6: And it's just like whoa big woe moment for her. 762 00:35:01,120 --> 00:35:03,640 Speaker 3: The only villain here is the girlfriend, Yeah, and I'm 763 00:35:03,640 --> 00:35:05,360 Speaker 3: glad that's the only drama. 764 00:35:05,520 --> 00:35:09,160 Speaker 6: Yeah. No, and the mom. The mom is a I 765 00:35:09,200 --> 00:35:10,640 Speaker 6: hope the mom isn't going to be a villain in 766 00:35:10,640 --> 00:35:13,560 Speaker 6: the future, but it seems like it's going to happen. Yeah, 767 00:35:14,040 --> 00:35:17,000 Speaker 6: sooner or later, which sucks because the mom is very 768 00:35:17,000 --> 00:35:22,760 Speaker 6: anti just LGBTQA, so that really is annoying. He realizes 769 00:35:22,800 --> 00:35:25,719 Speaker 6: I was in a bad situation and now you're making 770 00:35:25,719 --> 00:35:27,719 Speaker 6: a good friend out of this. You're getting closer with 771 00:35:27,760 --> 00:35:30,440 Speaker 6: your roommate. Update number two. I talked to the therapist. 772 00:35:30,520 --> 00:35:33,160 Speaker 6: Alex recommended. Normally I would be on the wait list 773 00:35:33,239 --> 00:35:36,160 Speaker 6: until January, but due to the situation, the therapist referred 774 00:35:36,239 --> 00:35:38,839 Speaker 6: me to one of his associates and I'll be seen 775 00:35:38,880 --> 00:35:40,120 Speaker 6: as early as next week. 776 00:35:40,320 --> 00:35:40,840 Speaker 3: Nice. 777 00:35:41,040 --> 00:35:43,840 Speaker 6: I was also recommended to attend to domestic violence support 778 00:35:43,880 --> 00:35:46,239 Speaker 6: group that gathers once a month. I was originally not 779 00:35:46,360 --> 00:35:49,319 Speaker 6: going to go because the idea was uncomfortable as f 780 00:35:49,480 --> 00:35:52,520 Speaker 6: but Alex said he'll go with me. Wow, so at 781 00:35:52,600 --> 00:35:54,520 Speaker 6: least I'll know someone there and we can leave if 782 00:35:54,560 --> 00:35:59,120 Speaker 6: it's too weird for me. My mom is aware of 783 00:35:59,160 --> 00:36:02,000 Speaker 6: the breakup. She is not too happy. I did not 784 00:36:02,120 --> 00:36:04,840 Speaker 6: mention the transpart. I said that Sarah was being controlling 785 00:36:04,880 --> 00:36:06,520 Speaker 6: and I didn't want to put up with it anymore. 786 00:36:06,680 --> 00:36:10,879 Speaker 6: I got the usual that's a normal part of any relationship. Sweetie. Oh, 787 00:36:10,920 --> 00:36:14,040 Speaker 6: no comments, but I stood my ground. My mom seems 788 00:36:14,080 --> 00:36:16,279 Speaker 6: to be under the same delusion as Sarah that this 789 00:36:16,400 --> 00:36:18,680 Speaker 6: is a small argument or something and we will get 790 00:36:18,719 --> 00:36:22,720 Speaker 6: back together. But that is absolutely not happening. Mm hmm, Bye, Sarah. 791 00:36:22,800 --> 00:36:24,680 Speaker 6: I don't really talk to Sarah's mom, so I don't 792 00:36:24,680 --> 00:36:26,839 Speaker 6: know her thoughts on the matter. The landlord is aware 793 00:36:26,840 --> 00:36:29,720 Speaker 6: of the situation and will not let Sarah in. Nice 794 00:36:29,920 --> 00:36:31,880 Speaker 6: if you don't have the get code, you don't have 795 00:36:31,920 --> 00:36:34,400 Speaker 6: to go to the main office, and the employee landlord's 796 00:36:34,400 --> 00:36:36,800 Speaker 6: son will buzz the person in if they are accepted 797 00:36:36,880 --> 00:36:39,680 Speaker 6: on the person list, and call the tenant and ask 798 00:36:39,760 --> 00:36:42,120 Speaker 6: if they aren't on the list. So there's so many 799 00:36:42,440 --> 00:36:45,799 Speaker 6: failsafes got it, I got it. If the individual is 800 00:36:45,920 --> 00:36:48,279 Speaker 6: on the do not let in list, especially if it 801 00:36:48,280 --> 00:36:50,799 Speaker 6: involves a criminal matter, they will be asked to leave. 802 00:36:51,120 --> 00:36:53,759 Speaker 6: If they don't leave, then it becomes trespassing. I know 803 00:36:53,840 --> 00:36:55,759 Speaker 6: this sounds like a lot, but the security is why 804 00:36:55,760 --> 00:36:58,560 Speaker 6: a lot of people live here. Notes after reading some comments, 805 00:36:58,760 --> 00:37:01,720 Speaker 6: I am sorry for trivialized my abuse. It still feels 806 00:37:01,719 --> 00:37:04,680 Speaker 6: weird to say abuse, but I do not know that 807 00:37:04,800 --> 00:37:08,840 Speaker 6: it is abuse. Slapping, pushing and shoving is physical abuse, 808 00:37:09,360 --> 00:37:11,600 Speaker 6: and if another person came up and told me their 809 00:37:11,640 --> 00:37:14,279 Speaker 6: partner was doing that, I would call it abuse. It's 810 00:37:14,320 --> 00:37:16,399 Speaker 6: not that I don't think women can be abusive, but 811 00:37:16,560 --> 00:37:18,839 Speaker 6: as I said in one of the comments, I don't 812 00:37:18,920 --> 00:37:21,840 Speaker 6: view it as abuse when it's towards me. This is 813 00:37:21,880 --> 00:37:24,080 Speaker 6: probably due to being abused by my mom. 814 00:37:24,400 --> 00:37:27,720 Speaker 3: Oh no ah, that's so. 815 00:37:27,719 --> 00:37:31,040 Speaker 6: Sad, which I'm going to get help for. For reference, 816 00:37:31,080 --> 00:37:33,680 Speaker 6: when I mentioned my mom's abuse, it's why I'm low 817 00:37:33,719 --> 00:37:36,640 Speaker 6: contact with her. The reason why I was extremely underweight 818 00:37:36,680 --> 00:37:39,000 Speaker 6: as a kid is because she just straight up didn't 819 00:37:39,000 --> 00:37:42,080 Speaker 6: feed me a lot of the time. Child Protection Services 820 00:37:42,120 --> 00:37:45,640 Speaker 6: got called a lot, but never did anything. They also 821 00:37:45,719 --> 00:37:47,920 Speaker 6: didn't take any claims by my teachers that I was 822 00:37:47,960 --> 00:37:51,239 Speaker 6: being abused as credible because there were no marks or bruises, 823 00:37:51,480 --> 00:37:56,720 Speaker 6: which has warped my view on abuse. Whoa whoa, whoa whoa? Okay, 824 00:37:56,800 --> 00:38:00,359 Speaker 6: Opie is this is just this was like one tiny 825 00:38:00,440 --> 00:38:05,640 Speaker 6: argument to like the most eye opening realization therapeutic thing 826 00:38:05,680 --> 00:38:07,440 Speaker 6: that He's like, I got it with therapy. My mom 827 00:38:07,480 --> 00:38:09,680 Speaker 6: was abusive, but like I never saw that as like 828 00:38:09,719 --> 00:38:13,360 Speaker 6: a thing. Now I'm like, this is all eye opening. 829 00:38:13,400 --> 00:38:14,279 Speaker 6: Holy holy crap. 830 00:38:14,400 --> 00:38:16,600 Speaker 3: This is crazy going forward. 831 00:38:16,920 --> 00:38:19,239 Speaker 6: If I date again, then I won't put up with 832 00:38:19,280 --> 00:38:21,520 Speaker 6: any physical or verbal. 833 00:38:21,239 --> 00:38:22,560 Speaker 3: Abuse as you should have. 834 00:38:22,880 --> 00:38:24,799 Speaker 6: You know, no one should ever put up with that. 835 00:38:25,480 --> 00:38:27,560 Speaker 6: A couple of comments helped by saying that if I 836 00:38:27,680 --> 00:38:30,160 Speaker 6: was confused on it was if it was wrong to 837 00:38:30,200 --> 00:38:32,600 Speaker 6: think about if another person was going through it and 838 00:38:32,760 --> 00:38:33,800 Speaker 6: put yourself in their shoes. 839 00:38:33,880 --> 00:38:34,840 Speaker 3: Hmmm, that's smart. 840 00:38:34,880 --> 00:38:37,360 Speaker 6: That's really smart, which has been helpful in what I 841 00:38:37,400 --> 00:38:40,400 Speaker 6: feel is right and wrong treatment towards me or you know, 842 00:38:40,440 --> 00:38:44,240 Speaker 6: what's at least rights that joining us live three pm 843 00:38:44,320 --> 00:38:48,040 Speaker 6: PST every weekday. Just tap our profile, tippy tap tap, 844 00:38:48,360 --> 00:38:49,080 Speaker 6: tipp tap tap. 845 00:38:49,239 --> 00:38:53,640 Speaker 3: Dang, that is kind of crazy, how one like this 846 00:38:53,680 --> 00:38:55,719 Speaker 3: breakup was probably the best thing that could ever happen 847 00:38:55,719 --> 00:38:56,680 Speaker 3: to you in your life. 848 00:38:56,440 --> 00:39:00,399 Speaker 6: One hundred percent. It sucks that there's so much I said, 849 00:39:00,400 --> 00:39:03,799 Speaker 6: it's a big just cloud of like a whoa. But 850 00:39:04,360 --> 00:39:07,400 Speaker 6: great for OP and great that you have at least 851 00:39:07,600 --> 00:39:10,399 Speaker 6: your roommate Alex supporting you a. 852 00:39:10,400 --> 00:39:12,080 Speaker 3: Huge healing journey ahead of you. 853 00:39:12,200 --> 00:39:14,360 Speaker 6: After a lot of talking, it turns out Alex and 854 00:39:14,360 --> 00:39:17,879 Speaker 6: I have been friends this whole time, but because I've 855 00:39:17,880 --> 00:39:21,279 Speaker 6: never had an introvert friend before, I didn't exactly realize. 856 00:39:22,280 --> 00:39:24,399 Speaker 6: Alex says he didn't want to annoy me by trying 857 00:39:24,440 --> 00:39:26,600 Speaker 6: to chat with me all the time, which ironically is 858 00:39:26,640 --> 00:39:29,440 Speaker 6: what I was feeling. Now we're going to hang out 859 00:39:29,480 --> 00:39:31,120 Speaker 6: more and he's trying to get me to join a 860 00:39:31,239 --> 00:39:35,960 Speaker 6: D and D campaign. He is in. Let's wow, and 861 00:39:36,000 --> 00:39:38,759 Speaker 6: that's the end of the story. Let's go, okay, so Op, 862 00:39:39,280 --> 00:39:43,000 Speaker 6: you deserve like a hug. Yeah, yeah, you deserve a 863 00:39:43,160 --> 00:39:47,200 Speaker 6: r nrtual hug. There's no advice needed you. You again, 864 00:39:47,320 --> 00:39:49,239 Speaker 6: you have to have a conversation with your mom sooner 865 00:39:49,360 --> 00:39:51,799 Speaker 6: or later. I mean, the trance thing. I don't think 866 00:39:51,800 --> 00:39:53,359 Speaker 6: it has to come up if it unmust, if it 867 00:39:53,400 --> 00:39:56,600 Speaker 6: needs to come up. Yeah, but you're already low contact 868 00:39:56,600 --> 00:39:58,279 Speaker 6: with your mom. You know what she did as you 869 00:39:58,440 --> 00:40:02,000 Speaker 6: with your childhood. He doesn't, you know, deserve to talk 870 00:40:02,040 --> 00:40:05,640 Speaker 6: to you almost if you want to do that. But 871 00:40:05,760 --> 00:40:08,080 Speaker 6: you're doing things that are good for you. D and 872 00:40:08,160 --> 00:40:12,319 Speaker 6: d's great. You have again a really tight knit relationship 873 00:40:12,360 --> 00:40:15,120 Speaker 6: with Alex. There's no comments on this. It looks like 874 00:40:15,320 --> 00:40:17,799 Speaker 6: it looks like it just you know, it's just a process. 875 00:40:18,040 --> 00:40:20,280 Speaker 3: There we go, and that's the end of that story. 876 00:40:20,360 --> 00:40:21,680 Speaker 6: Is the end of that story. So we'll get to 877 00:40:21,719 --> 00:40:23,560 Speaker 6: you guys at the next one. 878 00:40:23,680 --> 00:40:24,919 Speaker 1: Hey, it's Sam, your og host. 879 00:40:24,960 --> 00:40:25,080 Speaker 6: Here. 880 00:40:25,080 --> 00:40:26,640 Speaker 1: We're gonna get back to the stories. But here's three 881 00:40:26,680 --> 00:40:28,040 Speaker 1: minutes of ads from our sponsors. 882 00:40:29,160 --> 00:40:32,040 Speaker 6: My boyfriend is obsessed with streaming. I don't know how 883 00:40:32,080 --> 00:40:34,839 Speaker 6: to tell him it's never going to happen. Oh no, 884 00:40:35,960 --> 00:40:38,440 Speaker 6: just El's man, ELL's left and right. I know this 885 00:40:38,520 --> 00:40:41,319 Speaker 6: is a bit lighter than what this sub is used to, 886 00:40:41,640 --> 00:40:43,239 Speaker 6: but I don't know who else to tell this to 887 00:40:43,640 --> 00:40:45,960 Speaker 6: that doesn't know him. By the way, this comes from 888 00:40:46,040 --> 00:40:49,040 Speaker 6: user extra French Toast on the r slash Okay storytime 889 00:40:49,040 --> 00:40:51,359 Speaker 6: suppared it. Me and my boyfriend have been together for 890 00:40:51,400 --> 00:40:55,319 Speaker 6: five months roughly. For Christmas. One of my gifts was 891 00:40:55,320 --> 00:40:58,319 Speaker 6: an Xbox very nice. A while back, I was reading 892 00:40:58,360 --> 00:41:01,080 Speaker 6: something out loud to him from some gaming news site 893 00:41:01,160 --> 00:41:04,840 Speaker 6: and I mentioned that Ninja, a professional streamer, makes something 894 00:41:05,040 --> 00:41:09,359 Speaker 6: like five hundred k a month on Twitch. Since learning this, 895 00:41:09,760 --> 00:41:12,960 Speaker 6: he has since wanted to become a streamer himself. Brother's 896 00:41:13,000 --> 00:41:17,399 Speaker 6: gonna learn real quickly. He's not a streamer now. Every 897 00:41:17,440 --> 00:41:19,760 Speaker 6: time he plays a game, he streams it. I stated 898 00:41:19,800 --> 00:41:23,160 Speaker 6: in my title that he's trying to become a streamer. 899 00:41:23,160 --> 00:41:25,919 Speaker 6: But he really isn't trying at all. Oh no, he's 900 00:41:25,920 --> 00:41:28,360 Speaker 6: just streaming what's on his screen from his Xbox with 901 00:41:28,440 --> 00:41:30,080 Speaker 6: no facecam or even a mic. 902 00:41:30,520 --> 00:41:33,400 Speaker 3: There's a little bit of strategy of wine Ninja became 903 00:41:33,680 --> 00:41:34,600 Speaker 3: as big as he is. 904 00:41:35,239 --> 00:41:38,680 Speaker 6: It's a personality, brother. You gotta show your face. You 905 00:41:38,680 --> 00:41:41,520 Speaker 6: gotta have fun. You can't just show gaming. That's not 906 00:41:41,560 --> 00:41:43,759 Speaker 6: what everyone wants. He said to me that he's really 907 00:41:43,800 --> 00:41:47,800 Speaker 6: shocked he doesn't have many viewers. I tried gently explaining 908 00:41:47,800 --> 00:41:51,400 Speaker 6: to him that streaming slash YouTube is all about your personality, 909 00:41:51,560 --> 00:41:55,719 Speaker 6: to no avail. Wow. Wow. He's also really camera shy 910 00:41:55,800 --> 00:41:58,480 Speaker 6: and doesn't even have many pictures of him over the years, 911 00:41:58,719 --> 00:42:01,080 Speaker 6: to the point where his mother gave up on trying 912 00:42:01,080 --> 00:42:02,719 Speaker 6: to get him into family photos. 913 00:42:02,880 --> 00:42:05,719 Speaker 3: Oh wow. There are ways around that, though. If you don't, 914 00:42:06,760 --> 00:42:09,920 Speaker 3: you can do like an animated lego guy or animated saying. 915 00:42:09,960 --> 00:42:12,360 Speaker 6: But he's not this guy doesn't seem like he's doing anything. 916 00:42:12,680 --> 00:42:14,040 Speaker 6: But also, you have to be good at the game. 917 00:42:14,080 --> 00:42:16,040 Speaker 6: You don't I feel like this guy's good of the game. 918 00:42:16,360 --> 00:42:18,720 Speaker 3: You could be. You have to be either good or funny. 919 00:42:19,120 --> 00:42:23,200 Speaker 6: Imagine being both. I play video games. I hit hard Oh. 920 00:42:23,160 --> 00:42:24,200 Speaker 3: Yeah, we already knew that. Dude. 921 00:42:24,239 --> 00:42:26,880 Speaker 6: Yeah, maybe I should start streaming. So I don't understand 922 00:42:27,080 --> 00:42:29,480 Speaker 6: how being a streamer would even work for him, or 923 00:42:29,480 --> 00:42:31,520 Speaker 6: how he thinks it's a good idea. He also sits 924 00:42:31,600 --> 00:42:34,640 Speaker 6: very quietly muttering on an occasional f as he plays 925 00:42:34,640 --> 00:42:38,040 Speaker 6: a video game. The popular streamers he's trying to emulate 926 00:42:38,200 --> 00:42:42,319 Speaker 6: have natural humor and commentary, and he just doesn't have it, 927 00:42:43,080 --> 00:42:47,240 Speaker 6: if you know what I mean. He just doesn't factor. 928 00:42:48,120 --> 00:42:50,319 Speaker 6: He even mentioned that I should that I should start 929 00:42:50,360 --> 00:42:53,279 Speaker 6: streaming because I'm pretty okay at some games. Oh my god, 930 00:42:53,320 --> 00:42:56,280 Speaker 6: I can I can hear the eye roll in this sentence. 931 00:42:56,400 --> 00:42:58,200 Speaker 6: I laughed it off and said I have no interest 932 00:42:58,760 --> 00:43:01,239 Speaker 6: in a past relationship I and called negative, So I 933 00:43:01,280 --> 00:43:03,759 Speaker 6: didn't want to just crap all over his parade. For 934 00:43:03,840 --> 00:43:06,640 Speaker 6: some background, he is in school to be an architect 935 00:43:06,680 --> 00:43:10,160 Speaker 6: and has a good union job and gets paid pretty well, 936 00:43:10,280 --> 00:43:13,200 Speaker 6: so so it can't just solely be a money thing. 937 00:43:13,480 --> 00:43:15,520 Speaker 6: This week, I was doing errands and he said he 938 00:43:15,560 --> 00:43:17,680 Speaker 6: was going to pick up his laundry and the grocer 939 00:43:17,920 --> 00:43:20,919 Speaker 6: groceries for me to cook dinner before I get there. 940 00:43:21,040 --> 00:43:23,680 Speaker 3: Okay, oh no, already, already, I already see you, I 941 00:43:23,719 --> 00:43:25,800 Speaker 3: see I already know this. 942 00:43:25,800 --> 00:43:28,880 Speaker 6: This kid is glued. When I did get there, he 943 00:43:29,040 --> 00:43:32,760 Speaker 6: was sitting in his room in boxers, streaming for no viewers, 944 00:43:32,880 --> 00:43:35,799 Speaker 6: and the laundry slash groceries still hadn't been picked up, 945 00:43:36,000 --> 00:43:38,839 Speaker 6: even though it had been six or so hours. This 946 00:43:38,920 --> 00:43:42,480 Speaker 6: really pissed me off, but I didn't say anything. He 947 00:43:42,520 --> 00:43:45,640 Speaker 6: doesn't usually pay video games for that long, but now 948 00:43:45,719 --> 00:43:48,239 Speaker 6: it's all he does in his spare time. 949 00:43:48,400 --> 00:43:51,319 Speaker 3: He's trying to do. Come on, he's trying to game bro. 950 00:43:51,400 --> 00:43:52,600 Speaker 3: He's trying to get that grind on. 951 00:43:52,719 --> 00:43:54,480 Speaker 6: He's trying to get finished that battle pass. He's got 952 00:43:54,480 --> 00:43:56,799 Speaker 6: that gaming addiction. We have a trip to Japan coming 953 00:43:56,880 --> 00:43:59,080 Speaker 6: up in June, and he is now talking about buying 954 00:43:59,080 --> 00:44:02,480 Speaker 6: equipment for his stream. Oh no, this dude's personality is 955 00:44:02,560 --> 00:44:06,040 Speaker 6: just gamer, but like bad gamer. Oh no, I have 956 00:44:06,120 --> 00:44:09,080 Speaker 6: a lot of thoughts on this expensive equipment. My money 957 00:44:09,080 --> 00:44:10,880 Speaker 6: for the trip has been put away for a month 958 00:44:10,920 --> 00:44:13,200 Speaker 6: and he still hasn't started saving for it. I am 959 00:44:13,239 --> 00:44:15,640 Speaker 6: afraid that he will spend all the money on equipment 960 00:44:15,800 --> 00:44:18,319 Speaker 6: and our trip will go to Ruin the other night, 961 00:44:18,400 --> 00:44:20,960 Speaker 6: he said to me happily that he has one dedicated 962 00:44:21,040 --> 00:44:24,279 Speaker 6: viewer that watches every time he's on baby Steps. What 963 00:44:24,360 --> 00:44:26,320 Speaker 6: he doesn't know is that Twitch counts you as a 964 00:44:26,400 --> 00:44:28,040 Speaker 6: viewer when you start the stream. 965 00:44:28,400 --> 00:44:32,040 Speaker 3: Oh no, oh no, he's there all the time. 966 00:44:32,760 --> 00:44:34,080 Speaker 6: He's my number one supporters. 967 00:44:34,160 --> 00:44:36,240 Speaker 3: Like I started, and he's already there. 968 00:44:36,560 --> 00:44:39,560 Speaker 6: And he doesn't say anything, but he's watching me fine 969 00:44:39,680 --> 00:44:41,799 Speaker 6: when you start the stream. So the follower he's talking 970 00:44:41,800 --> 00:44:43,200 Speaker 6: about is himself. 971 00:44:43,360 --> 00:44:45,440 Speaker 3: Oh no, I justn't smart. 972 00:44:45,640 --> 00:44:48,280 Speaker 6: Giving him an Xbox was the worst decision ever. Ope. 973 00:44:48,600 --> 00:44:50,440 Speaker 6: I just really didn't have the heart to tell him 974 00:44:50,520 --> 00:44:53,799 Speaker 6: because I know how embarrassing that would be. Would you 975 00:44:53,800 --> 00:44:54,680 Speaker 6: tell him, dude? 976 00:44:54,680 --> 00:44:57,439 Speaker 3: Oh yeah, that a knowledge I know? Yeah him, dude, 977 00:44:57,440 --> 00:44:58,680 Speaker 3: I'd give him a whole breakdown. 978 00:44:58,760 --> 00:45:01,320 Speaker 6: I would tell him so he doesn't get the inspiration 979 00:45:01,840 --> 00:45:04,319 Speaker 6: like he uses that one viewer himself, by the way, 980 00:45:04,800 --> 00:45:07,239 Speaker 6: as inspiration, like, oh if I got one, I can 981 00:45:07,239 --> 00:45:08,959 Speaker 6: get two. If I can get two, I can get four. 982 00:45:09,520 --> 00:45:11,399 Speaker 3: There's a lot. There's a lot to this. 983 00:45:11,520 --> 00:45:13,839 Speaker 6: It's become a point of annoyance every time I hear 984 00:45:13,880 --> 00:45:17,759 Speaker 6: the word streamer. Any advice here or should I just 985 00:45:17,840 --> 00:45:21,200 Speaker 6: let this twitch tream fizzle out without my input? There's 986 00:45:21,239 --> 00:45:24,120 Speaker 6: an update some of You may not have been around 987 00:45:24,160 --> 00:45:26,759 Speaker 6: to read the comments after I posted this, but some 988 00:45:26,800 --> 00:45:29,439 Speaker 6: more details on this situation that I didn't initially say 989 00:45:29,560 --> 00:45:32,279 Speaker 6: were posted by me when I read it. Her, who 990 00:45:32,360 --> 00:45:34,480 Speaker 6: has since deleted her comments for the sake of privacy, 991 00:45:35,000 --> 00:45:37,680 Speaker 6: related to me and explained how her ex was the 992 00:45:37,760 --> 00:45:42,480 Speaker 6: same way and seemed to have a video game addiction earlier. 993 00:45:42,840 --> 00:45:47,479 Speaker 6: Her experience eerily mirrored mine. You can read my response here. 994 00:45:47,719 --> 00:45:49,719 Speaker 6: Yesterday after work, I had to rush home to deal 995 00:45:49,719 --> 00:45:51,960 Speaker 6: with some family stuff, so I did not get to 996 00:45:51,600 --> 00:45:54,080 Speaker 6: sit him down and talk to him besides a five 997 00:45:54,120 --> 00:45:57,680 Speaker 6: minute phone call and passing him at work. Today, however, 998 00:45:58,320 --> 00:46:00,319 Speaker 6: my path was clear and I was to I'm going 999 00:46:00,320 --> 00:46:03,120 Speaker 6: to speak to him about this. When I woke up 1000 00:46:03,280 --> 00:46:06,799 Speaker 6: and showered, I checked the Xbox app and saw that 1001 00:46:06,840 --> 00:46:10,800 Speaker 6: he was last online thirty minutes ago at seven a 1002 00:46:11,200 --> 00:46:12,080 Speaker 6: m oo. 1003 00:46:12,560 --> 00:46:16,880 Speaker 3: I was working the overnight shift. Oh man, dude, Oh man. 1004 00:46:16,760 --> 00:46:19,960 Speaker 6: Dude, which means again that he did not sleep at all. 1005 00:46:21,320 --> 00:46:24,440 Speaker 6: I didn't contact him. His day off was today, and 1006 00:46:24,480 --> 00:46:25,920 Speaker 6: he called me at three pm to say that he 1007 00:46:26,120 --> 00:46:26,640 Speaker 6: just woke up. 1008 00:46:26,680 --> 00:46:29,040 Speaker 3: All right, brother, that's all right, it's his day off. 1009 00:46:29,080 --> 00:46:31,399 Speaker 6: It's day off. But that's not a good day off. 1010 00:46:31,680 --> 00:46:32,359 Speaker 3: Yeah. 1011 00:46:32,400 --> 00:46:34,680 Speaker 6: I could hear overwatching the background, and he asked how 1012 00:46:34,680 --> 00:46:37,400 Speaker 6: my day was going, and immediately before I got to respond, 1013 00:46:37,719 --> 00:46:42,560 Speaker 6: very angrily, he said, why the f won't this guy 1014 00:46:42,560 --> 00:46:44,840 Speaker 6: get up? Honso he thing sucks. 1015 00:46:45,280 --> 00:46:46,280 Speaker 3: I don't even know what that means. 1016 00:46:46,719 --> 00:46:50,360 Speaker 6: I'm a Hanso main and diva main. Get off Hanso. 1017 00:46:50,560 --> 00:46:52,879 Speaker 6: I had a client approaching me and swiftly hung up. 1018 00:46:53,239 --> 00:46:55,360 Speaker 6: I can relate to this story so much. This is 1019 00:46:55,400 --> 00:46:57,920 Speaker 6: actually really funny. This is you, dude, This is not me, 1020 00:46:58,080 --> 00:46:58,920 Speaker 6: this is this is this is. 1021 00:46:58,880 --> 00:46:59,760 Speaker 3: You, and I'm a girlfriend. 1022 00:46:59,800 --> 00:47:01,720 Speaker 6: This is Christian. Stop, this is Christian. 1023 00:47:01,800 --> 00:47:02,560 Speaker 3: May Oh that's cute. 1024 00:47:02,680 --> 00:47:04,680 Speaker 6: Yeah. I called him back after work when I was 1025 00:47:04,719 --> 00:47:07,799 Speaker 6: walking home and decided to start with small talk. Before 1026 00:47:07,800 --> 00:47:09,719 Speaker 6: I got to the subject, I was leading to. 1027 00:47:10,080 --> 00:47:11,560 Speaker 3: No, girl, get right into it. 1028 00:47:12,719 --> 00:47:14,920 Speaker 6: You gotta stop playing playing around the bush here. You 1029 00:47:14,920 --> 00:47:17,000 Speaker 6: gotta go straight into this. I didn't even have a 1030 00:47:17,080 --> 00:47:19,759 Speaker 6: chance to start off with the small talk before he 1031 00:47:19,840 --> 00:47:22,200 Speaker 6: asked me why I was slightly out of breath. I said, 1032 00:47:22,200 --> 00:47:26,840 Speaker 6: it's because I'm walking through snow uphill. He said, it's snowing. 1033 00:47:27,280 --> 00:47:27,840 Speaker 3: Oh no. 1034 00:47:28,320 --> 00:47:31,640 Speaker 6: It snowed heavily for quite a few hours. His place 1035 00:47:31,719 --> 00:47:33,759 Speaker 6: is built that you can't enter the hallway to the 1036 00:47:33,840 --> 00:47:37,640 Speaker 6: kitchen in front door without seeing outside. Oh man, he'd 1037 00:47:37,719 --> 00:47:39,880 Speaker 6: even looked outside of his window at all today and 1038 00:47:39,960 --> 00:47:45,640 Speaker 6: spent all day in his bedroom playing video games. This 1039 00:47:46,200 --> 00:47:48,160 Speaker 6: snapped me into asking him if he was planning to 1040 00:47:48,160 --> 00:47:50,760 Speaker 6: do anything else with his life besides play video games. 1041 00:47:51,120 --> 00:47:57,279 Speaker 6: He said, of course, just not right now, relatable. He 1042 00:47:57,360 --> 00:48:00,879 Speaker 6: had not showered or it's like the like, y'all take 1043 00:48:00,880 --> 00:48:03,240 Speaker 6: a shower, dude, Come on, dude. He had not showered 1044 00:48:03,320 --> 00:48:06,799 Speaker 6: or eaten all day. I asked, and he admitted it. 1045 00:48:06,880 --> 00:48:08,840 Speaker 6: I asked him if he thought that I was healthy, 1046 00:48:08,920 --> 00:48:12,160 Speaker 6: and he said, with an edge, what playing video games? 1047 00:48:12,480 --> 00:48:16,760 Speaker 6: Of course? Am I? I think smoking math or something. 1048 00:48:16,960 --> 00:48:19,080 Speaker 6: I clarified on this and just decided to say it. 1049 00:48:19,120 --> 00:48:20,560 Speaker 6: I said, I think he has a problem. 1050 00:48:20,600 --> 00:48:24,719 Speaker 3: Well, honestly, his digital footprint is pretty low, or his 1051 00:48:24,760 --> 00:48:28,320 Speaker 3: digital print is big, but his natural carbon footprint is 1052 00:48:28,400 --> 00:48:30,399 Speaker 3: very low. Think about that. No one wants to talk 1053 00:48:30,440 --> 00:48:32,320 Speaker 3: about that. No one wants to talk about the carbon footprint. 1054 00:48:32,400 --> 00:48:33,600 Speaker 3: He is not creating. 1055 00:48:33,840 --> 00:48:35,879 Speaker 6: This guy's never gamed in his life, and he picked 1056 00:48:35,920 --> 00:48:38,880 Speaker 6: up a controller and he got instantly hooked. And the 1057 00:48:38,960 --> 00:48:42,399 Speaker 6: dude is morphing into Literally, it's like. 1058 00:48:42,320 --> 00:48:46,960 Speaker 3: The North Korean soldiers hooked on corn when they visited Russia. 1059 00:48:47,000 --> 00:48:47,640 Speaker 3: Do you about that? 1060 00:48:47,800 --> 00:48:48,000 Speaker 4: No? 1061 00:48:48,280 --> 00:48:50,480 Speaker 3: Yeah, so like Russian and North Korea are like joining 1062 00:48:50,520 --> 00:48:53,640 Speaker 3: forces and some like North Korean soldiers. As soon as 1063 00:48:53,640 --> 00:48:55,400 Speaker 3: he got access internet corn. 1064 00:48:55,640 --> 00:48:58,839 Speaker 6: Yeah. I clarified on this and decided to say it. 1065 00:48:58,960 --> 00:49:01,600 Speaker 6: I said, I think he has a problem. The skipping work. 1066 00:49:01,920 --> 00:49:04,160 Speaker 6: I didn't know he was skipping work. Oh shoot, he's 1067 00:49:04,200 --> 00:49:05,360 Speaker 6: skipping work now we didn't know. 1068 00:49:05,400 --> 00:49:06,479 Speaker 3: Wait wait, keep going. 1069 00:49:06,560 --> 00:49:09,440 Speaker 6: The skipping work, not sleeper or eating, and over all 1070 00:49:09,480 --> 00:49:11,919 Speaker 6: the pure amount of hours he dedicates to playing them. 1071 00:49:12,760 --> 00:49:17,040 Speaker 6: He then did what most addicts do, got angry, and 1072 00:49:17,080 --> 00:49:18,200 Speaker 6: then spun it back on me. 1073 00:49:18,400 --> 00:49:21,200 Speaker 3: Oh no, dude, he has some big problem. 1074 00:49:21,680 --> 00:49:24,080 Speaker 6: Oh yeah, he said that. I bought him the Xbox 1075 00:49:24,120 --> 00:49:26,880 Speaker 6: in the first place. What the F do you expect 1076 00:49:26,920 --> 00:49:28,879 Speaker 6: me to do with it? I don't know, just enjoy it. 1077 00:49:29,040 --> 00:49:31,120 Speaker 6: And then I've been playing video games long before we 1078 00:49:31,120 --> 00:49:34,319 Speaker 6: were a thing. My Xbox is mostly used as a 1079 00:49:34,360 --> 00:49:37,920 Speaker 6: Netflix machine and to play Overwatch, Slash the Dark Soul's 1080 00:49:37,920 --> 00:49:42,560 Speaker 6: trilogy on weekends. Good stuff, I said. I do not 1081 00:49:42,640 --> 00:49:45,279 Speaker 6: obsess with them or skip meals to play games, and 1082 00:49:45,320 --> 00:49:48,319 Speaker 6: that I would had never thought it for him if 1083 00:49:48,360 --> 00:49:51,239 Speaker 6: I knew this would what it would lead to. He 1084 00:49:51,320 --> 00:49:54,520 Speaker 6: got angry and asked, if I just called to harass him, Bro, 1085 00:49:54,600 --> 00:49:58,040 Speaker 6: you play Overwatch, this is the least amount of harassment 1086 00:49:58,080 --> 00:50:01,960 Speaker 6: you're getting. You already know again, Overwatch is very toxic, 1087 00:50:02,640 --> 00:50:04,920 Speaker 6: very very toxic. You think Call of Duty is a toxic, 1088 00:50:05,000 --> 00:50:10,520 Speaker 6: Overwatch is very toxic. I'm aware, look into my eyes. 1089 00:50:10,840 --> 00:50:12,799 Speaker 6: I've seen it all. I said. I called to speak 1090 00:50:12,800 --> 00:50:14,560 Speaker 6: to him and let him know my thoughts over the 1091 00:50:14,560 --> 00:50:17,080 Speaker 6: past few months. This is a few months. Oh my gosh, 1092 00:50:17,200 --> 00:50:20,080 Speaker 6: He said, I was crazy that everyone plays video games, 1093 00:50:20,400 --> 00:50:22,760 Speaker 6: and whoever said that the streaming was just a decoy 1094 00:50:22,800 --> 00:50:24,960 Speaker 6: and it excuse to play video games all day? You 1095 00:50:25,000 --> 00:50:28,920 Speaker 6: were absolutely right, Oh yo. 1096 00:50:29,760 --> 00:50:32,960 Speaker 3: No way, I did not see that. 1097 00:50:33,440 --> 00:50:36,239 Speaker 6: He feels justified in doing exactly that as long as 1098 00:50:36,239 --> 00:50:39,080 Speaker 6: he tells me that there's no there's a goal to 1099 00:50:39,160 --> 00:50:42,560 Speaker 6: it all. But there's no goal. There's nothing here. I 1100 00:50:42,560 --> 00:50:44,600 Speaker 6: told him that my mind isn't changed, and that I 1101 00:50:44,640 --> 00:50:46,720 Speaker 6: think he has a problem and should speak to someone. 1102 00:50:47,360 --> 00:50:50,000 Speaker 6: He said nothing to this, and then I said that 1103 00:50:50,040 --> 00:50:52,600 Speaker 6: I don't feel we have anything more to really speak about, 1104 00:50:52,920 --> 00:50:55,600 Speaker 6: and I can't spend my time worrying about him. I 1105 00:50:55,600 --> 00:50:58,000 Speaker 6: feel like I'm going to get hate for this, but 1106 00:50:58,120 --> 00:51:01,320 Speaker 6: I won't budge on it. He is not my child, 1107 00:51:01,520 --> 00:51:03,239 Speaker 6: and I can't force a girl man to eat or 1108 00:51:03,239 --> 00:51:08,239 Speaker 6: go outside. I have done my research and slept on it. 1109 00:51:08,480 --> 00:51:11,640 Speaker 6: Many people pmed me and commed it to tell me 1110 00:51:11,719 --> 00:51:13,960 Speaker 6: there's stories of dealing with a loved one with video 1111 00:51:13,960 --> 00:51:16,520 Speaker 6: game addiction, or that they were once in his shoes. 1112 00:51:16,680 --> 00:51:19,440 Speaker 6: Oh wow, I was once in his shoes. Yeah, this 1113 00:51:19,560 --> 00:51:20,920 Speaker 6: is not a battle I want to be in. You 1114 00:51:20,920 --> 00:51:22,840 Speaker 6: don't want to be in his battle. He's not the 1115 00:51:22,840 --> 00:51:25,440 Speaker 6: person I met last year. He responded to this with 1116 00:51:25,560 --> 00:51:28,719 Speaker 6: a very mellow voice that he knows he's been inattentive 1117 00:51:28,800 --> 00:51:30,520 Speaker 6: and would like a chance to make it up to me. 1118 00:51:30,880 --> 00:51:32,880 Speaker 6: He said he wanted to go on a date tomorrow. 1119 00:51:33,040 --> 00:51:36,200 Speaker 6: I declined, and he started rambling about how perfect I 1120 00:51:36,239 --> 00:51:38,839 Speaker 6: am for him. I thought the same. Once he kept 1121 00:51:38,840 --> 00:51:41,360 Speaker 6: going and I said I'm and said I'm being ridiculous, 1122 00:51:41,400 --> 00:51:43,800 Speaker 6: and started telling me the things he could do instead 1123 00:51:43,800 --> 00:51:46,880 Speaker 6: of playing video games, such as, I'm not a drinker, 1124 00:51:47,280 --> 00:51:50,799 Speaker 6: I don't cheat, etc. But you know what you could do, Sam, 1125 00:51:51,000 --> 00:51:53,920 Speaker 6: you can join us live every weekday three pm PSD 1126 00:51:54,200 --> 00:51:55,120 Speaker 6: just tape our profile. 1127 00:51:55,920 --> 00:51:56,480 Speaker 3: Tap it. 1128 00:51:57,640 --> 00:52:01,960 Speaker 6: The fact that he's gaslighting or gas sorry, gas lamping, op, 1129 00:52:03,640 --> 00:52:04,759 Speaker 6: Like you did this to me? 1130 00:52:05,040 --> 00:52:06,040 Speaker 3: Well that's how addicts go. 1131 00:52:06,320 --> 00:52:08,799 Speaker 6: Yeah, no they can't. The fact that he can't accept it. 1132 00:52:09,800 --> 00:52:12,480 Speaker 6: And again this has gone for months that he was 1133 00:52:12,480 --> 00:52:14,520 Speaker 6: trying to be a streamer and none of it. He 1134 00:52:14,600 --> 00:52:15,439 Speaker 6: knew what he was doing. 1135 00:52:15,600 --> 00:52:16,600 Speaker 3: Dude, that's crazy. 1136 00:52:17,000 --> 00:52:20,160 Speaker 6: I'm sad because before we dated, he really was a 1137 00:52:20,160 --> 00:52:22,359 Speaker 6: good friend. I said that I'm almost home and have 1138 00:52:22,440 --> 00:52:25,320 Speaker 6: to go. He stayed quiet for a while and said, okay. 1139 00:52:25,520 --> 00:52:28,040 Speaker 6: The fact that the video game noises didn't stop during 1140 00:52:28,040 --> 00:52:31,160 Speaker 6: the duration of the entire phone call didn't go unnoticed 1141 00:52:31,200 --> 00:52:34,160 Speaker 6: by me. He only lowered the volume, but not enough. 1142 00:52:34,840 --> 00:52:38,560 Speaker 6: I literally just called this out like again, like he's 1143 00:52:38,560 --> 00:52:42,080 Speaker 6: gotta keep playing the videos, and just like huh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, okay. 1144 00:52:42,200 --> 00:52:43,800 Speaker 6: I didn't bring it up because I don't think he 1145 00:52:43,840 --> 00:52:45,759 Speaker 6: would get off even if I asked him to. We 1146 00:52:45,920 --> 00:52:48,359 Speaker 6: hung up and that that was that. Luckily I only 1147 00:52:48,360 --> 00:52:50,879 Speaker 6: see him in passing at work. I will now make 1148 00:52:50,920 --> 00:52:53,960 Speaker 6: sure to not see him at all. It's a huge building. 1149 00:52:54,280 --> 00:52:57,360 Speaker 6: It isn't hard. That sucks. Yeah, I would also like 1150 00:52:57,400 --> 00:53:00,160 Speaker 6: to note that I got some very pleasant PMS call 1151 00:53:00,239 --> 00:53:03,279 Speaker 6: me or personal messages calling me an absolute b for 1152 00:53:03,480 --> 00:53:05,400 Speaker 6: not supporting him and playing video games. 1153 00:53:05,840 --> 00:53:07,279 Speaker 3: Lovely love those people that. 1154 00:53:07,320 --> 00:53:10,400 Speaker 6: I'm going to regret everything when he's a famous streamer, okay, 1155 00:53:11,120 --> 00:53:13,640 Speaker 6: down to saying that I only care about him skipping 1156 00:53:13,680 --> 00:53:16,200 Speaker 6: work and potentially being fired because I'm not in it 1157 00:53:16,239 --> 00:53:19,000 Speaker 6: for his money. I'm prepared for more of those messages 1158 00:53:19,160 --> 00:53:22,640 Speaker 6: for now, abandon abandoning him, and I'm still going to Japan. 1159 00:53:22,760 --> 00:53:26,560 Speaker 3: Let's go. Let's go, opu go girl. 1160 00:53:26,640 --> 00:53:28,560 Speaker 6: That's the end of that story. But like go to Japan, 1161 00:53:28,800 --> 00:53:31,799 Speaker 6: you don't need him. His his mindset is set on 1162 00:53:31,800 --> 00:53:34,640 Speaker 6: one thing and one thing only. He's going to realize 1163 00:53:34,640 --> 00:53:37,880 Speaker 6: sooner or later that that deo game video games are 1164 00:53:37,920 --> 00:53:41,480 Speaker 6: just not life. Yeah, but right now it's not worth it. 1165 00:53:41,480 --> 00:53:43,040 Speaker 6: It's not worth trying to fight for it. 1166 00:53:43,120 --> 00:53:46,080 Speaker 3: Good for you for standing a ground, OPI Yeah, oh man. 1167 00:53:47,360 --> 00:53:49,719 Speaker 4: I moved him with my boyfriend and his parents, but 1168 00:53:49,800 --> 00:53:52,840 Speaker 4: they keep changing their house rule. So I was explaining 1169 00:53:52,880 --> 00:53:54,920 Speaker 4: this to my sister and one of my friends, and 1170 00:53:55,000 --> 00:53:59,319 Speaker 4: their mouths literally rupt when I told them. So, I 1171 00:53:59,480 --> 00:54:01,839 Speaker 4: want to here and see if it actually is as 1172 00:54:01,880 --> 00:54:05,200 Speaker 4: crazy as the reactions make it seem. By the way, 1173 00:54:05,239 --> 00:54:07,960 Speaker 4: this comes from an electronic Wolf sixty one seventy three 1174 00:54:08,239 --> 00:54:10,920 Speaker 4: on the Okay storytime Separate It. So, when I was seventeen, 1175 00:54:11,040 --> 00:54:13,480 Speaker 4: I was kicked out of my mother's house. That's an 1176 00:54:13,680 --> 00:54:17,120 Speaker 4: entirely different story, but my boyfriend and his parents took 1177 00:54:17,160 --> 00:54:19,600 Speaker 4: me in. When I first moved in, my boyfriend took 1178 00:54:19,640 --> 00:54:22,280 Speaker 4: the couch and I took his room. We'd closed the door, 1179 00:54:22,520 --> 00:54:25,160 Speaker 4: he'd stay in my room late. His parents allowed that 1180 00:54:25,200 --> 00:54:29,160 Speaker 4: for an entire week. Eventually, we all sat down and 1181 00:54:29,200 --> 00:54:31,839 Speaker 4: his parents explained the rules set for me and him 1182 00:54:31,920 --> 00:54:35,040 Speaker 4: to us, which work. My new room door had to 1183 00:54:35,040 --> 00:54:37,520 Speaker 4: be open at all times. If I were to be 1184 00:54:37,520 --> 00:54:39,640 Speaker 4: in his room, which got switched from the living room 1185 00:54:39,680 --> 00:54:41,520 Speaker 4: to the basement, we had to keep the door open 1186 00:54:41,560 --> 00:54:43,719 Speaker 4: there too. Due to me being in school at the time, 1187 00:54:43,800 --> 00:54:45,440 Speaker 4: we had to be out of the room by eleven. 1188 00:54:45,920 --> 00:54:48,040 Speaker 4: And if he wanted to spend more time together than 1189 00:54:48,080 --> 00:54:49,960 Speaker 4: we needed to be in the living room, I had 1190 00:54:49,960 --> 00:54:52,640 Speaker 4: to split my boyfriend's chore of doing the dishes. Those 1191 00:54:52,680 --> 00:54:55,239 Speaker 4: were all the rules they presented to us. Everything was 1192 00:54:55,280 --> 00:54:58,399 Speaker 4: fine for a while until his parents started to pull 1193 00:54:58,520 --> 00:55:01,439 Speaker 4: weird stuff and I'm weird, as in, they would act 1194 00:55:01,480 --> 00:55:04,440 Speaker 4: like they never said something when they did, or randomly 1195 00:55:04,480 --> 00:55:06,880 Speaker 4: add a rule or boundary that was never discussed or 1196 00:55:06,920 --> 00:55:09,920 Speaker 4: existed until they confronted us. Me and my boyfriend were 1197 00:55:09,960 --> 00:55:12,520 Speaker 4: down in the basement laying on his bed, just listening 1198 00:55:12,600 --> 00:55:14,879 Speaker 4: to music. His dad came down and went to another 1199 00:55:14,920 --> 00:55:17,120 Speaker 4: part of the basement to do laundry. The stairs are 1200 00:55:17,239 --> 00:55:20,000 Speaker 4: right next to his bed, but there's a wall covering it, 1201 00:55:20,400 --> 00:55:23,600 Speaker 4: and before his dad went upstairs, he leaned over and 1202 00:55:23,640 --> 00:55:26,880 Speaker 4: looked at us, went back upstairs, and then texted my 1203 00:55:26,920 --> 00:55:29,520 Speaker 4: boyfriend saying that he never remembers telling us that we 1204 00:55:29,520 --> 00:55:31,680 Speaker 4: could be down in the basement together and that it 1205 00:55:31,719 --> 00:55:34,320 Speaker 4: doesn't matter anyways. He doesn't want us down there anymore 1206 00:55:34,400 --> 00:55:36,560 Speaker 4: because it defeats the purpose of keeping an eye on us. 1207 00:55:36,800 --> 00:55:39,000 Speaker 4: Like they're in the basement. The door's not closed. 1208 00:55:39,200 --> 00:55:43,240 Speaker 6: Get my house, my house, my our house, our rules, honestly, 1209 00:55:43,680 --> 00:55:44,560 Speaker 6: get your own house. 1210 00:55:44,840 --> 00:55:47,279 Speaker 7: I want to say, yeah, even though it sucks. Yeah, 1211 00:55:47,320 --> 00:55:49,440 Speaker 7: and they're going about it. It seems like, well, let'school 1212 00:55:49,520 --> 00:55:51,000 Speaker 7: keep reading, But it seems like they're going about it 1213 00:55:51,040 --> 00:55:51,600 Speaker 7: and sketchy it. 1214 00:55:51,960 --> 00:55:55,240 Speaker 4: So we were annoyed because he clearly stated we could, 1215 00:55:55,320 --> 00:55:58,200 Speaker 4: but didn't argue and just went upstairs. We decided to 1216 00:55:58,200 --> 00:56:00,000 Speaker 4: go to a park near our house around a toy 1217 00:56:00,080 --> 00:56:02,480 Speaker 4: clock on a Sunday night. I was doing online school 1218 00:56:02,480 --> 00:56:04,799 Speaker 4: at this point, so I was usually home all day. 1219 00:56:05,160 --> 00:56:07,239 Speaker 4: As soon as we get to the park, my boyfriend's 1220 00:56:07,239 --> 00:56:09,319 Speaker 4: mom texts the group chat that me, her and my 1221 00:56:09,320 --> 00:56:12,399 Speaker 4: boyfriend had and says to him, not me, Kelly needs 1222 00:56:12,400 --> 00:56:15,040 Speaker 4: to be back by eleven. This instance was annoying because 1223 00:56:15,080 --> 00:56:18,360 Speaker 4: she never mentioned a curfew outside of the house, not once. 1224 00:56:18,920 --> 00:56:20,600 Speaker 4: I didn't know that being out of the room by 1225 00:56:20,640 --> 00:56:23,480 Speaker 4: eleven because I had school also applied to being in 1226 00:56:23,520 --> 00:56:25,960 Speaker 4: the house by eleven. It was annoying because it was 1227 00:56:25,960 --> 00:56:28,160 Speaker 4: sprung on me out of nowhere. It wasn't told to 1228 00:56:28,200 --> 00:56:30,439 Speaker 4: me directly, and no one sat me down to talk 1229 00:56:30,440 --> 00:56:32,520 Speaker 4: about it. I wasn't the one who argued about it. 1230 00:56:32,840 --> 00:56:35,040 Speaker 4: My boyfriend did. I told him to stop, though, because 1231 00:56:35,080 --> 00:56:36,759 Speaker 4: it just wasn't worth it to me. There was a 1232 00:56:36,800 --> 00:56:38,640 Speaker 4: time when me and my boyfriend were in my room. 1233 00:56:39,040 --> 00:56:41,200 Speaker 4: The door was open and we were under my covers 1234 00:56:41,239 --> 00:56:43,279 Speaker 4: watching a movie on his TV. I didn't know it 1235 00:56:43,320 --> 00:56:46,080 Speaker 4: at the time, but his mom texted him saying that 1236 00:56:46,120 --> 00:56:48,640 Speaker 4: we had been under the covers too long. He told 1237 00:56:48,640 --> 00:56:50,920 Speaker 4: me he ignored her message because we weren't doing anything 1238 00:56:50,920 --> 00:56:53,480 Speaker 4: appropriate and she could see directly into our room. 1239 00:56:53,640 --> 00:56:55,840 Speaker 7: You get ten minutes of undercover time, and then you 1240 00:56:55,920 --> 00:56:58,200 Speaker 7: gotta go over the cover over to cover. 1241 00:56:58,160 --> 00:57:00,560 Speaker 4: The eleven o'clock rule. I was told it was only 1242 00:57:00,600 --> 00:57:03,520 Speaker 4: because I was still in school. After I graduated and 1243 00:57:03,560 --> 00:57:06,200 Speaker 4: we moved, I got settled into my new room and 1244 00:57:06,239 --> 00:57:08,960 Speaker 4: my boyfriend was there with me. Eleven rolled around and 1245 00:57:09,000 --> 00:57:12,480 Speaker 4: I got a text saying that the rules still applies. Oh, 1246 00:57:12,640 --> 00:57:14,880 Speaker 4: if we want to spend time together past eleven, we 1247 00:57:15,000 --> 00:57:17,040 Speaker 4: had to be in the living room. This pissed me 1248 00:57:17,160 --> 00:57:19,800 Speaker 4: off because to me, why tell us that this rule 1249 00:57:19,840 --> 00:57:21,960 Speaker 4: is in place for this specific reason, and then when 1250 00:57:21,960 --> 00:57:24,480 Speaker 4: that reason no longer applies, keep it going. I just 1251 00:57:24,480 --> 00:57:27,439 Speaker 4: felt that his parents could have communicated better and told 1252 00:57:27,520 --> 00:57:29,680 Speaker 4: us that the rule wasn't all around one and not 1253 00:57:29,760 --> 00:57:31,480 Speaker 4: just because I was in school. She put me on 1254 00:57:31,640 --> 00:57:35,120 Speaker 4: birth control whoa, whoa, whoa, but didn't tell me until 1255 00:57:35,160 --> 00:57:37,200 Speaker 4: we were already on our way to the appointment. This 1256 00:57:37,240 --> 00:57:39,479 Speaker 4: annoyed me because again I felt like this was something 1257 00:57:39,520 --> 00:57:41,439 Speaker 4: I should have been able to at least talk about 1258 00:57:41,480 --> 00:57:45,200 Speaker 4: before taking the step to do it. That is totally unacceptable. 1259 00:57:45,240 --> 00:57:48,880 Speaker 7: Whoa so unacceptable? You can't make medical decisions? 1260 00:57:48,920 --> 00:57:52,400 Speaker 4: That's someone totally unacceptable. Also, just like that is a 1261 00:57:52,520 --> 00:57:53,960 Speaker 4: huge hormonal change. 1262 00:57:54,240 --> 00:57:56,520 Speaker 7: Yeah, that's so many people. 1263 00:57:56,800 --> 00:57:57,960 Speaker 3: Yeah, like that is. 1264 00:57:57,920 --> 00:58:01,560 Speaker 4: An individual decision for every you know, person with those 1265 00:58:01,600 --> 00:58:04,600 Speaker 4: parts to make. Can't You can't tell anyone to do that. 1266 00:58:04,720 --> 00:58:06,600 Speaker 6: I was to say, your house, your rules, but it's 1267 00:58:06,600 --> 00:58:07,320 Speaker 6: my body mind. 1268 00:58:07,400 --> 00:58:12,680 Speaker 4: Yeah, your house, your rules, my vagina, my rules one percent, 1269 00:58:12,760 --> 00:58:15,640 Speaker 4: And you can make the crappy rule you can't be 1270 00:58:15,800 --> 00:58:19,080 Speaker 4: in my house unless you're on birth control. Yeah, but 1271 00:58:19,120 --> 00:58:21,440 Speaker 4: you can't take her to the doctor's appointment, say this 1272 00:58:21,600 --> 00:58:22,600 Speaker 4: is what's going to happen. 1273 00:58:22,680 --> 00:58:25,520 Speaker 7: It would still be really crappy to do that, and 1274 00:58:25,640 --> 00:58:28,080 Speaker 7: to put that ultimatum, even though it's within your power, 1275 00:58:28,560 --> 00:58:31,320 Speaker 7: still would be really crappy. But again, to take so 1276 00:58:31,400 --> 00:58:32,240 Speaker 7: much to an appointment. 1277 00:58:32,360 --> 00:58:34,520 Speaker 4: Yeah. They kept telling me and my boyfriend that we 1278 00:58:34,560 --> 00:58:37,360 Speaker 4: couldn't sleep in the same room together because I wasn't 1279 00:58:37,400 --> 00:58:40,680 Speaker 4: eighteen yet, and he was basically making it seem like 1280 00:58:40,840 --> 00:58:43,240 Speaker 4: we could once I turned eighteen. Then told us that 1281 00:58:43,280 --> 00:58:45,480 Speaker 4: they don't care if I'm eighteen. We can't sleep together, 1282 00:58:45,520 --> 00:58:47,560 Speaker 4: which again I understand if they aren't comfortable with it, 1283 00:58:47,960 --> 00:58:49,720 Speaker 4: but I don't understand why they made us think we 1284 00:58:49,760 --> 00:58:51,800 Speaker 4: could for months and then told us differently. At the 1285 00:58:51,920 --> 00:58:54,720 Speaker 4: last second, I was talking to my boyfriend's mom about 1286 00:58:54,760 --> 00:58:56,800 Speaker 4: something and she admitted to me that she didn't like 1287 00:58:56,880 --> 00:58:59,480 Speaker 4: me and his general closeness. There was another time he 1288 00:58:59,600 --> 00:59:01,160 Speaker 4: was put on for the night and I sat and 1289 00:59:01,240 --> 00:59:03,120 Speaker 4: talked to his mom about why she did that, and 1290 00:59:03,240 --> 00:59:05,400 Speaker 4: she mentioned that he used to cuddle with her when 1291 00:59:05,480 --> 00:59:08,800 Speaker 4: he was younger, and then said, obviously that love language 1292 00:59:08,800 --> 00:59:10,880 Speaker 4: is getting fulfilled now that you're here, and I don't 1293 00:59:10,880 --> 00:59:12,480 Speaker 4: know if she meant that in a negative way. We 1294 00:59:12,600 --> 00:59:14,560 Speaker 4: sat down and talked about the fact that we want 1295 00:59:14,640 --> 00:59:17,080 Speaker 4: everyone to clear their plates before putting it in the kitchen, 1296 00:59:17,200 --> 00:59:19,200 Speaker 4: and to stop leaving all their food out unopened on 1297 00:59:19,280 --> 00:59:21,520 Speaker 4: the counter. His mom said she understood and knows that 1298 00:59:21,600 --> 00:59:23,480 Speaker 4: it isn't fair to us to be doing that. Not 1299 00:59:23,600 --> 00:59:25,600 Speaker 4: even a month later, I walk into the kitchen and 1300 00:59:25,640 --> 00:59:28,720 Speaker 4: there's meat all over the stoves, plates of food sitting 1301 00:59:28,800 --> 00:59:31,280 Speaker 4: on the counter, dried sauce with chunks in it on 1302 00:59:31,320 --> 00:59:33,880 Speaker 4: the counter, beer cans all over the counter, and food 1303 00:59:34,000 --> 00:59:36,040 Speaker 4: in the drain and no one but me and my 1304 00:59:36,160 --> 00:59:39,080 Speaker 4: boyfriend in the house. It happened again, but everyone was 1305 00:59:39,120 --> 00:59:42,840 Speaker 4: in the living watching TV. They were recording or evesdropping 1306 00:59:42,920 --> 00:59:45,240 Speaker 4: on me and my boyfriend's conversations. All I know is 1307 00:59:45,280 --> 00:59:47,200 Speaker 4: that there were times when me and him simply vented, 1308 00:59:47,600 --> 00:59:50,080 Speaker 4: or he was angry inventing, and his dad would confront 1309 00:59:50,160 --> 00:59:52,000 Speaker 4: us about what we said when he wasn't there the 1310 00:59:52,080 --> 00:59:54,640 Speaker 4: night before, or he'd confront us as we were talking 1311 00:59:54,680 --> 00:59:57,000 Speaker 4: about him. His parents no longer like me because I'm 1312 00:59:57,000 --> 00:59:59,160 Speaker 4: struggling to find a job. I've been looking for one 1313 00:59:59,200 --> 01:00:01,560 Speaker 4: since I was seventy. My deadline to have one was 1314 01:00:01,600 --> 01:00:04,800 Speaker 4: on my eighteenth birthday. I've had interviews, I've called even 1315 01:00:04,840 --> 01:00:06,680 Speaker 4: when I didn't have a phone, I called now that 1316 01:00:06,720 --> 01:00:09,480 Speaker 4: I do have a phone, I'm applying every day. I'm 1317 01:00:09,520 --> 01:00:12,160 Speaker 4: making it known I'm interested. I'm doing everything I can. 1318 01:00:12,480 --> 01:00:14,280 Speaker 4: But this town I live in isn't very big, and 1319 01:00:14,360 --> 01:00:16,960 Speaker 4: it's just hard. But my boyfriend's mom just thinks I'm 1320 01:00:17,000 --> 01:00:20,840 Speaker 4: sitting in my room doing nothing. This is so hard 1321 01:00:21,040 --> 01:00:23,960 Speaker 4: because obviously op doesn't really probably doesn't have any other 1322 01:00:24,240 --> 01:00:28,240 Speaker 4: options than this family. But obviously this family is just 1323 01:00:28,520 --> 01:00:31,200 Speaker 4: pushing all these boundaries, or not even letting her have 1324 01:00:31,360 --> 01:00:34,000 Speaker 4: any boundaries and just saying, oh, well, you're in our house. 1325 01:00:33,880 --> 01:00:38,160 Speaker 7: Yeah, and consistently switching up their boundaries without explanation or advance. 1326 01:00:38,520 --> 01:00:40,800 Speaker 4: My boyfriend's mom got upset with me because I chose 1327 01:00:40,840 --> 01:00:42,720 Speaker 4: to get a job instead of going to in person 1328 01:00:42,800 --> 01:00:45,640 Speaker 4: college classes after finding out I couldn't do online anymore, 1329 01:00:45,760 --> 01:00:47,680 Speaker 4: and seeing her come up with an in person schedule 1330 01:00:47,720 --> 01:00:49,760 Speaker 4: for me without talking to me about it after I 1331 01:00:49,840 --> 01:00:52,680 Speaker 4: told her a very real, very personal reason as to 1332 01:00:52,800 --> 01:00:55,760 Speaker 4: why I couldn't even do college in person anymore. After 1333 01:00:55,880 --> 01:00:58,280 Speaker 4: we moved to our new town, my boyfriend, who's nineteen, 1334 01:00:58,440 --> 01:01:00,160 Speaker 4: found out that he has to share a room this 1335 01:01:00,280 --> 01:01:01,320 Speaker 4: thirteen year old brother. 1336 01:01:01,640 --> 01:01:02,480 Speaker 7: Oh it sucks. 1337 01:01:02,880 --> 01:01:04,800 Speaker 4: He didn't want his stuff in the room he's sharing 1338 01:01:04,920 --> 01:01:07,320 Speaker 4: because his brother likes to touch stuff that doesn't belong 1339 01:01:07,400 --> 01:01:09,160 Speaker 4: to him, So he asked me if he could keep 1340 01:01:09,200 --> 01:01:11,920 Speaker 4: his stuff in my room, and I happily agreed. Then 1341 01:01:12,000 --> 01:01:13,560 Speaker 4: his mom told me that I had to tell him 1342 01:01:13,600 --> 01:01:15,880 Speaker 4: to get his things out because I needed my space. 1343 01:01:16,200 --> 01:01:17,960 Speaker 4: I told her I didn't mind, and I gave him 1344 01:01:18,000 --> 01:01:20,720 Speaker 4: permission to. After an entire argument went down and I 1345 01:01:20,840 --> 01:01:22,640 Speaker 4: was in the car alone with her. By the way, 1346 01:01:22,920 --> 01:01:25,040 Speaker 4: you'll never be alone if you join us live every 1347 01:01:25,040 --> 01:01:29,120 Speaker 4: Weekdad three pmpst on YouTube, TikTok and Facebook. Just top 1348 01:01:29,160 --> 01:01:30,720 Speaker 4: her profile and there is a little bit left. 1349 01:01:30,760 --> 01:01:33,480 Speaker 7: But what do you think again, like just such an 1350 01:01:33,680 --> 01:01:38,520 Speaker 7: unfortunate circumstance. Yeah, like it's so amazing necessity. Yeah, like 1351 01:01:38,720 --> 01:01:40,640 Speaker 7: it is a necessity. It seems like, oh, he has 1352 01:01:40,680 --> 01:01:43,439 Speaker 7: nowhere else to go to go. It was extremely kind 1353 01:01:43,480 --> 01:01:47,040 Speaker 7: and compassionate for oh P's boyfriend to let her stay 1354 01:01:47,360 --> 01:01:50,160 Speaker 7: at the house, and yet at the same time, they're 1355 01:01:50,280 --> 01:01:55,400 Speaker 7: continuously overreaching, They're continuously being controlling and changing their mind 1356 01:01:55,440 --> 01:01:59,000 Speaker 7: without communicating about it, and so it's hard. I'm curious 1357 01:01:59,160 --> 01:02:03,120 Speaker 7: if any conver station has happened with them from either OP, 1358 01:02:03,440 --> 01:02:06,880 Speaker 7: which might be hard, or op's boyfriend. Yeah, of like 1359 01:02:07,080 --> 01:02:10,040 Speaker 7: coming at it from like a hey, you said this thing, 1360 01:02:10,440 --> 01:02:12,840 Speaker 7: and now you're saying this thing. It seems like this 1361 01:02:13,040 --> 01:02:16,200 Speaker 7: is a powdern of you continuously switching up rules or 1362 01:02:16,360 --> 01:02:19,240 Speaker 7: reasoning of rules, and it's I. 1363 01:02:19,280 --> 01:02:20,880 Speaker 4: Do think that the boyfriend would have to do that 1364 01:02:21,040 --> 01:02:23,720 Speaker 4: for sure. Yeah, just because her place in the house is. 1365 01:02:23,840 --> 01:02:26,960 Speaker 3: So not respected, well not respected, but it's just. 1366 01:02:27,000 --> 01:02:29,480 Speaker 4: So precarious, like she could get kicked. 1367 01:02:29,240 --> 01:02:30,800 Speaker 3: Out and she would have nowhere to go for sure. 1368 01:02:31,000 --> 01:02:33,360 Speaker 7: Just to reiterate, like the birth control thing was like 1369 01:02:33,520 --> 01:02:37,640 Speaker 7: possibly the biggest overreach. So yeah, the body that was 1370 01:02:37,760 --> 01:02:41,040 Speaker 7: wild now making an in person schedule for her. Yeah, 1371 01:02:41,240 --> 01:02:43,600 Speaker 7: it feels like it's getting more and more as she 1372 01:02:43,760 --> 01:02:45,040 Speaker 7: gets older, which is interesting. 1373 01:02:45,040 --> 01:02:47,720 Speaker 4: Well yeah, yeah, you would think that before anyone says anything. 1374 01:02:47,920 --> 01:02:50,840 Speaker 4: I understand their house, their rules. The rules wouldn't have 1375 01:02:50,880 --> 01:02:52,200 Speaker 4: been a big deal to me if they had just 1376 01:02:52,320 --> 01:02:55,720 Speaker 4: communicated their true intentions behind the rule instead of giving 1377 01:02:55,800 --> 01:02:58,880 Speaker 4: us one reason and changing it or claiming they never 1378 01:02:58,960 --> 01:03:01,360 Speaker 4: made it halfway through, like advice on how to handle 1379 01:03:01,440 --> 01:03:03,800 Speaker 4: my feelings on all this. If I'm wrong for being upset, 1380 01:03:04,080 --> 01:03:06,160 Speaker 4: and that is the end. But you are not wrong 1381 01:03:06,240 --> 01:03:06,920 Speaker 4: for being upset. 1382 01:03:08,000 --> 01:03:10,919 Speaker 7: You're not the ahole. No, And yet at the same 1383 01:03:11,000 --> 01:03:14,000 Speaker 7: time I think that there is I think the next 1384 01:03:14,040 --> 01:03:17,000 Speaker 7: step possibly would be for your boyfriend to talk to 1385 01:03:17,080 --> 01:03:20,120 Speaker 7: his parents see if there's even possibility, if they're even 1386 01:03:20,240 --> 01:03:25,040 Speaker 7: open to being logical and compassionate around this and willing 1387 01:03:25,120 --> 01:03:29,080 Speaker 7: to be you know, less volatile and less controlling, and 1388 01:03:29,160 --> 01:03:33,040 Speaker 7: then go from there. Hopefully they are willing. If it's 1389 01:03:33,080 --> 01:03:35,520 Speaker 7: brought up in a way that's like non blaming. Yeah, 1390 01:03:35,560 --> 01:03:39,680 Speaker 7: and if not, maybe like it's come to a point where, like, 1391 01:03:40,200 --> 01:03:43,880 Speaker 7: if it's possible to find another circumstance. 1392 01:03:43,360 --> 01:03:46,520 Speaker 4: I do think the best solution is to whenever you 1393 01:03:46,640 --> 01:03:48,000 Speaker 4: can move out with your boyfriend. 1394 01:03:48,160 --> 01:03:51,360 Speaker 7: And that's not easy, but if that's possible, it might 1395 01:03:51,560 --> 01:03:54,520 Speaker 7: need to be the steps might need to be made 1396 01:03:54,560 --> 01:03:54,960 Speaker 7: towards that. 1397 01:03:55,600 --> 01:03:56,840 Speaker 3: Hey's John, your og host. Here. 1398 01:03:56,880 --> 01:03:58,240 Speaker 2: We're gonna get back to the stories, but here's a 1399 01:03:58,280 --> 01:03:59,960 Speaker 2: quick three minute break of ASTHM form or sponsors. 1400 01:04:01,320 --> 01:04:04,480 Speaker 7: My parents are tearing down my childhood tree house. I 1401 01:04:04,600 --> 01:04:07,360 Speaker 7: feel like I'm losing a piece of my soul. 1402 01:04:07,640 --> 01:04:08,400 Speaker 4: Tear them down. 1403 01:04:08,600 --> 01:04:11,720 Speaker 7: So background on my childhood. My parents ran a business 1404 01:04:11,760 --> 01:04:14,720 Speaker 7: together and constantly fought. I mean constantly. The fights would 1405 01:04:14,760 --> 01:04:18,560 Speaker 7: sometimes devolve into physical altercations that were terrifying to me. 1406 01:04:18,680 --> 01:04:20,840 Speaker 7: I was an only child, so I think I'm the 1407 01:04:21,040 --> 01:04:23,800 Speaker 7: only person in the world besides them who knows how 1408 01:04:23,880 --> 01:04:26,160 Speaker 7: bad it actually got. To the outside world. We were 1409 01:04:26,200 --> 01:04:29,040 Speaker 7: a very normal family. When I was six, my grandpa 1410 01:04:29,080 --> 01:04:31,040 Speaker 7: asked me what I wanted for my birthday, even though 1411 01:04:31,040 --> 01:04:33,600 Speaker 7: I knew I wanted to escape, so I said a 1412 01:04:33,720 --> 01:04:36,320 Speaker 7: tree house by the way. This comes from you, Jenny 1413 01:04:36,400 --> 01:04:39,560 Speaker 7: Jeans on the r okay Storytime subreddit. So I helped 1414 01:04:39,600 --> 01:04:42,160 Speaker 7: my grandpa with every single nail in that place, and 1415 01:04:42,240 --> 01:04:45,480 Speaker 7: it became my literal sanctuary when there was utter chaos 1416 01:04:45,600 --> 01:04:47,520 Speaker 7: in my house. I was in there when it was 1417 01:04:47,600 --> 01:04:49,880 Speaker 7: one hundred degrees outside. I was in there when it 1418 01:04:49,960 --> 01:04:52,880 Speaker 7: was below freezing. I painted it every year, decorated it. 1419 01:04:53,000 --> 01:04:53,920 Speaker 3: I treated it like it was. 1420 01:04:53,920 --> 01:04:56,680 Speaker 7: Almost a religious retreat for me. I came home every 1421 01:04:56,720 --> 01:04:59,640 Speaker 7: summer from college and cleaned, painted, and even slept in 1422 01:04:59,680 --> 01:05:02,360 Speaker 7: it most of the time. I permanently moved out about 1423 01:05:02,360 --> 01:05:04,720 Speaker 7: a year ago, but I also had fantasies that I 1424 01:05:04,760 --> 01:05:07,840 Speaker 7: could someday introduce my kids to my treehouse. Someday in 1425 01:05:07,960 --> 01:05:10,320 Speaker 7: my ultimate pie in the Sky dreams, I thought about 1426 01:05:10,400 --> 01:05:13,240 Speaker 7: taking it apart, poured by board, reassembling it in my 1427 01:05:13,440 --> 01:05:16,960 Speaker 7: own yard. Yesterday, I got an email from my mom 1428 01:05:17,520 --> 01:05:21,160 Speaker 7: that almost has a footnote. She said, very casually, Oh, 1429 01:05:21,440 --> 01:05:25,480 Speaker 7: me and your father are tearing out that old oak 1430 01:05:25,560 --> 01:05:28,760 Speaker 7: tree with your ugly tree house and finally putting in 1431 01:05:28,800 --> 01:05:30,439 Speaker 7: a gazebo with a hot tub. 1432 01:05:30,760 --> 01:05:32,760 Speaker 3: Why aren't you excited for us? 1433 01:05:33,320 --> 01:05:36,120 Speaker 4: This is a classic movie plot, and these are the 1434 01:05:36,360 --> 01:05:38,160 Speaker 4: evil villains of the movie. 1435 01:05:38,240 --> 01:05:41,160 Speaker 7: Oh, my parents always denied how much they scared me 1436 01:05:41,360 --> 01:05:43,520 Speaker 7: when they fought. They also flat out deny that the 1437 01:05:43,960 --> 01:05:46,120 Speaker 7: fights got as bad as they did. Or they say 1438 01:05:46,160 --> 01:05:49,240 Speaker 7: that since they found Christ, the fights and altercations have 1439 01:05:49,360 --> 01:05:52,000 Speaker 7: been forgiven and I should forgive them too. But I 1440 01:05:52,240 --> 01:05:55,040 Speaker 7: just can't forget, and now threatening to tear down my 1441 01:05:55,280 --> 01:05:58,840 Speaker 7: special space seems like the ultimate omission that they either 1442 01:05:58,960 --> 01:06:02,320 Speaker 7: don't know don't care how much they tormented me with 1443 01:06:02,440 --> 01:06:06,600 Speaker 7: their constant battles. I am crushed over this. Apparently it's 1444 01:06:06,640 --> 01:06:08,920 Speaker 7: coming down Saturday, and I just can't get home to 1445 01:06:09,000 --> 01:06:12,120 Speaker 7: do anything about it. I asked politely if they could 1446 01:06:12,160 --> 01:06:14,160 Speaker 7: try to please save the pieces, and my mom said, 1447 01:06:14,600 --> 01:06:17,640 Speaker 7: we're hiring laborers. I just don't think they'll care enough 1448 01:06:17,720 --> 01:06:20,520 Speaker 7: to try. Thanks a lot, Mom, Can I do here? 1449 01:06:20,920 --> 01:06:23,680 Speaker 7: I'm so crushed? Is this just a part of growing 1450 01:06:23,800 --> 01:06:25,880 Speaker 7: up and being an adult that I have to deal with? 1451 01:06:26,040 --> 01:06:28,240 Speaker 7: Should I pay over twelve one hundred dollars for a 1452 01:06:28,360 --> 01:06:30,440 Speaker 7: last minute ticket tomorrow and try to save as much 1453 01:06:30,480 --> 01:06:32,080 Speaker 7: as I can and we have an update? 1454 01:06:32,360 --> 01:06:33,600 Speaker 6: But what are your thoughts? 1455 01:06:33,880 --> 01:06:35,200 Speaker 7: I mean, like, what do you do here? 1456 01:06:35,320 --> 01:06:38,360 Speaker 4: When you're the kid you like this is your parents'. 1457 01:06:38,160 --> 01:06:40,480 Speaker 6: Tree rally, the troops ray the truth. 1458 01:06:40,640 --> 01:06:42,880 Speaker 4: I think you tie yourself to the tree and you 1459 01:06:42,960 --> 01:06:44,880 Speaker 4: don't let them pass. That's my solution. 1460 01:06:45,200 --> 01:06:49,160 Speaker 7: It seems like OP is not really expressing any of 1461 01:06:49,280 --> 01:06:52,200 Speaker 7: these things. I think there's room here for OP to 1462 01:06:52,320 --> 01:06:54,200 Speaker 7: be maybe a little more real and a little more 1463 01:06:54,320 --> 01:06:57,880 Speaker 7: vulnerable and share what this represents to them. And maybe 1464 01:06:58,080 --> 01:07:00,240 Speaker 7: there isn't an option to save the tree, but maybe 1465 01:07:00,280 --> 01:07:04,760 Speaker 7: there's options to one, you know, dave the pieces, or 1466 01:07:04,880 --> 01:07:08,040 Speaker 7: to maybe have a little more time or something that 1467 01:07:08,120 --> 01:07:11,000 Speaker 7: would maybe allow or this to not be so full 1468 01:07:11,040 --> 01:07:11,960 Speaker 7: of full of grief. 1469 01:07:12,240 --> 01:07:12,439 Speaker 4: Yeah. 1470 01:07:13,760 --> 01:07:16,480 Speaker 7: So I hope that there's a conversation space for a 1471 01:07:16,520 --> 01:07:20,320 Speaker 7: conversation you had or a hero's journey updates. So en 1472 01:07:20,480 --> 01:07:23,200 Speaker 7: story is I called my mom to please take several 1473 01:07:23,320 --> 01:07:27,080 Speaker 7: pictures of the treehouse for me, you sue from several angles, 1474 01:07:27,120 --> 01:07:30,000 Speaker 7: and inside she was so rude and dismissive and said 1475 01:07:30,160 --> 01:07:32,720 Speaker 7: something along the lines of, oh, Jenny, we don't have 1476 01:07:32,800 --> 01:07:34,479 Speaker 7: time for that, and you can't expect us to climb 1477 01:07:34,520 --> 01:07:35,600 Speaker 7: up into that piece of junk. 1478 01:07:35,760 --> 01:07:38,440 Speaker 4: Oh Jenny, we do not have signs for that, so 1479 01:07:38,560 --> 01:07:40,800 Speaker 4: we cannot climb up this piece of junk. 1480 01:07:41,240 --> 01:07:44,240 Speaker 7: I was heartbroken all over it again because she was 1481 01:07:44,480 --> 01:07:48,000 Speaker 7: callous the damn French. I decided that the only way 1482 01:07:48,240 --> 01:07:50,360 Speaker 7: I was going to have any keepstakes was to fly 1483 01:07:50,560 --> 01:07:53,480 Speaker 7: home and either take pictures myself or save as much 1484 01:07:53,480 --> 01:07:55,080 Speaker 7: as the wood as I could. I bought a really 1485 01:07:55,160 --> 01:07:57,840 Speaker 7: expensive last minute ticket home after I'd already paid the 1486 01:07:57,880 --> 01:08:00,280 Speaker 7: ticket or remember that maybe my neighbor would be willing 1487 01:08:00,280 --> 01:08:02,760 Speaker 7: to take some pictures from me. They are an elderly couple, 1488 01:08:02,880 --> 01:08:05,840 Speaker 7: but they had almost been like surrogate grandparents when they 1489 01:08:05,880 --> 01:08:08,880 Speaker 7: were home. They traveled a lot, but mister Smith prided 1490 01:08:09,000 --> 01:08:11,000 Speaker 7: himself on being in great shape, so I figured it 1491 01:08:11,040 --> 01:08:13,560 Speaker 7: couldn't hurt to ask him for pictures just in case 1492 01:08:13,600 --> 01:08:15,760 Speaker 7: I didn't make it home in time. To say. It 1493 01:08:15,880 --> 01:08:20,040 Speaker 7: was an odd conversation. I'll just type it out to 1494 01:08:20,120 --> 01:08:21,240 Speaker 7: the best of my memory. 1495 01:08:21,439 --> 01:08:21,479 Speaker 4: Me. 1496 01:08:21,720 --> 01:08:24,400 Speaker 7: Hi'm missus Smith. It's Jenny from next door. Are you 1497 01:08:24,479 --> 01:08:27,160 Speaker 7: guys in town by chance? Missus Smith, Jenny from block? 1498 01:08:27,200 --> 01:08:28,800 Speaker 7: It's so good to hear from you. No, we are 1499 01:08:28,840 --> 01:08:31,240 Speaker 7: at our place in XXXX. Is there something I could 1500 01:08:31,240 --> 01:08:31,479 Speaker 7: do for you? 1501 01:08:31,600 --> 01:08:32,240 Speaker 6: Is everything okay? 1502 01:08:32,400 --> 01:08:33,280 Speaker 3: Well not really. 1503 01:08:33,479 --> 01:08:35,320 Speaker 7: My parents are tearing down the oak tree with my 1504 01:08:35,520 --> 01:08:36,120 Speaker 7: missus Smith. 1505 01:08:36,520 --> 01:08:38,120 Speaker 6: What they are doing? 1506 01:08:38,200 --> 01:08:40,840 Speaker 7: What they are tearing down that oak tree with my 1507 01:08:41,360 --> 01:08:41,960 Speaker 7: free house. 1508 01:08:42,080 --> 01:08:46,400 Speaker 3: No, they can't do that. That's our that's our oak tree. 1509 01:08:46,800 --> 01:08:52,720 Speaker 6: Dust Ah the Hero's Journey, Yes, we're back on schedule. 1510 01:08:53,960 --> 01:08:58,840 Speaker 4: Yes, okay, Smith about to save then. 1511 01:09:00,280 --> 01:09:01,880 Speaker 7: This is the part of the Hero's Journey when like 1512 01:09:02,000 --> 01:09:04,799 Speaker 7: the mentor comes in like the wise Wizard. 1513 01:09:04,880 --> 01:09:07,439 Speaker 3: It is like, actually, I will defend the your tree myself. 1514 01:09:08,040 --> 01:09:09,040 Speaker 6: Yes, a young paddle one. 1515 01:09:09,160 --> 01:09:11,680 Speaker 7: Yes, well, I think either Friday or Saturday they are 1516 01:09:11,760 --> 01:09:14,680 Speaker 7: having people over to cut it all down. Jenny, I 1517 01:09:14,760 --> 01:09:15,719 Speaker 7: need to make some calls. 1518 01:09:15,960 --> 01:09:17,080 Speaker 3: I'm sorry, I need to let you go. 1519 01:09:17,200 --> 01:09:19,479 Speaker 6: I'll try to call you back. Rallying the troops, I 1520 01:09:19,840 --> 01:09:22,880 Speaker 6: called it rally the troop called it. So. 1521 01:09:23,240 --> 01:09:26,000 Speaker 7: I flew home early Friday morning. My parents had hired 1522 01:09:26,000 --> 01:09:28,800 Speaker 7: some laborers from home Depot, but weren't home. They were 1523 01:09:28,880 --> 01:09:31,360 Speaker 7: well underway tearing my treehouse. 1524 01:09:31,680 --> 01:09:31,720 Speaker 6: No. 1525 01:09:32,840 --> 01:09:35,160 Speaker 7: I approached them and asked if I could pay them 1526 01:09:35,240 --> 01:09:38,400 Speaker 7: to set aside the boards and metal parts and not 1527 01:09:38,720 --> 01:09:41,960 Speaker 7: throw them in the dumpster they had brought. They agreed, 1528 01:09:42,040 --> 01:09:44,080 Speaker 7: and I was able to save almost all the wood 1529 01:09:44,120 --> 01:09:46,679 Speaker 7: in a very neat pile. I even tried to number 1530 01:09:46,720 --> 01:09:49,639 Speaker 7: everything so if I ever do get to rebuild it someday, 1531 01:09:50,120 --> 01:09:52,800 Speaker 7: I know it goes together. It was an ideal, but 1532 01:09:52,920 --> 01:09:55,679 Speaker 7: I feel fortunate that I did get to save most 1533 01:09:55,800 --> 01:09:59,040 Speaker 7: everything that was sad. All seems lost might be. 1534 01:09:59,360 --> 01:10:01,760 Speaker 4: It might actually be lost. But the tree with the tree, 1535 01:10:01,960 --> 01:10:04,679 Speaker 4: the tree is still there. The tree is not gone 1536 01:10:04,840 --> 01:10:05,320 Speaker 4: quite yet. 1537 01:10:05,479 --> 01:10:06,639 Speaker 7: And the wood was saved. 1538 01:10:06,880 --> 01:10:07,840 Speaker 4: Yeah, the wood was saved. 1539 01:10:08,000 --> 01:10:10,479 Speaker 7: I'd say. At maybe six PM, my parents finally showed up, 1540 01:10:10,680 --> 01:10:13,120 Speaker 7: and they were as mad as I've ever seen them. 1541 01:10:13,240 --> 01:10:15,559 Speaker 7: They weren't even happy to see me. When it turns 1542 01:10:15,560 --> 01:10:19,120 Speaker 7: out the neighbors had their lawyer issued in injunction against 1543 01:10:19,200 --> 01:10:21,720 Speaker 7: tearing the tree down. I can't even begin to see 1544 01:10:21,720 --> 01:10:24,360 Speaker 7: how angry my parents were, and they didn't even really 1545 01:10:24,479 --> 01:10:26,080 Speaker 7: speak to me to tell me what was going on. 1546 01:10:26,240 --> 01:10:28,160 Speaker 7: So I called mister and missus Smith back. It took 1547 01:10:28,240 --> 01:10:30,360 Speaker 7: until Saturday, but finally called and they told me that 1548 01:10:30,439 --> 01:10:33,240 Speaker 7: basically there had been a surveying mistake when my parents 1549 01:10:33,280 --> 01:10:35,240 Speaker 7: had built their house in the eighties, and the tree 1550 01:10:35,240 --> 01:10:37,519 Speaker 7: had actually been on the Smith's properly the whole time. 1551 01:10:38,080 --> 01:10:40,240 Speaker 7: They told me they always had an uneasy piece with 1552 01:10:40,360 --> 01:10:42,639 Speaker 7: my parents over the era, and I never minded having 1553 01:10:42,680 --> 01:10:44,640 Speaker 7: a treehouse in the tree, but chopping it down was 1554 01:10:44,720 --> 01:10:46,719 Speaker 7: crossing a major line. 1555 01:10:46,880 --> 01:10:50,280 Speaker 4: Yes, put your foot down as Missus Smith tree. 1556 01:10:50,479 --> 01:10:52,680 Speaker 7: They said the tree gave them great shade in the 1557 01:10:52,720 --> 01:10:55,320 Speaker 7: summer mornings and they could not imagine tearing it down 1558 01:10:55,360 --> 01:10:58,200 Speaker 7: for any reason. They asked me what my parents' reasons were, 1559 01:10:58,280 --> 01:11:01,479 Speaker 7: and I told them about the because and he literally 1560 01:11:01,600 --> 01:11:05,200 Speaker 7: started laughing a ze bo that my parents had the 1561 01:11:05,400 --> 01:11:09,200 Speaker 7: nerve to knowingly build a gazebo on their property. He 1562 01:11:09,320 --> 01:11:12,240 Speaker 7: said he'd always planned on legally deaning the property over 1563 01:11:12,320 --> 01:11:14,360 Speaker 7: to my parents, since it's only about eleven foot era 1564 01:11:14,760 --> 01:11:17,519 Speaker 7: along the entire property, But since he thinks my parents 1565 01:11:17,640 --> 01:11:19,800 Speaker 7: purposely waited until he and Missus Smith were out of 1566 01:11:19,840 --> 01:11:21,960 Speaker 7: town that ripped down the tree, he wasn't in any 1567 01:11:22,040 --> 01:11:25,840 Speaker 7: mood to do them favors. Saturday was awkward and I 1568 01:11:26,000 --> 01:11:29,519 Speaker 7: spent the night at a friend from high school. This morning, 1569 01:11:29,600 --> 01:11:32,759 Speaker 7: my dad said he wanted my crap off his property. 1570 01:11:32,840 --> 01:11:34,400 Speaker 7: So I called the Smith's back and they said they 1571 01:11:34,439 --> 01:11:37,240 Speaker 7: didn't mind if I stored my wood in their barn, 1572 01:11:37,320 --> 01:11:39,760 Speaker 7: as long as I needed got a barn. You want 1573 01:11:39,800 --> 01:11:43,519 Speaker 7: to store your attention in this show, you can join 1574 01:11:43,640 --> 01:11:49,320 Speaker 7: us live on YouTube every weekday at three pm through Facebook, TikTok, Twitch, 1575 01:11:49,960 --> 01:11:52,519 Speaker 7: and YouTube. The most important want. 1576 01:11:53,000 --> 01:11:55,839 Speaker 4: What applots to ust. Honestly, I have no like advice 1577 01:11:56,040 --> 01:11:58,240 Speaker 4: because it seems like it's working out now. This feels 1578 01:11:58,280 --> 01:12:01,360 Speaker 4: like we've had this whole cinematic aperience and we just 1579 01:12:01,479 --> 01:12:04,799 Speaker 4: reached the climax and now we're bring to the denoment, 1580 01:12:05,120 --> 01:12:06,840 Speaker 4: the falling action of this tale. 1581 01:12:08,400 --> 01:12:10,320 Speaker 7: The resolution is in smelling range. 1582 01:12:10,800 --> 01:12:14,400 Speaker 6: You get yourself a gazebo and make it out of 1583 01:12:14,439 --> 01:12:16,840 Speaker 6: the wood on us. Yeah, maybe make it out of 1584 01:12:16,840 --> 01:12:17,120 Speaker 6: the wood. 1585 01:12:17,240 --> 01:12:19,360 Speaker 7: My parents went to church and I plan on leaving 1586 01:12:19,439 --> 01:12:23,479 Speaker 7: without saying goodbye. I had some memorabilia boxes in the attic. 1587 01:12:23,840 --> 01:12:26,360 Speaker 7: I'm taking them to a friend's house and she's going 1588 01:12:26,439 --> 01:12:28,960 Speaker 7: to ship them to me, so there's nothing left in 1589 01:12:29,000 --> 01:12:30,880 Speaker 7: the house for my parents take their anger out on. 1590 01:12:31,120 --> 01:12:33,080 Speaker 7: I don't know how this will affect our relationship, but 1591 01:12:33,160 --> 01:12:35,519 Speaker 7: the reality is we haven't had much of one for 1592 01:12:35,600 --> 01:12:38,479 Speaker 7: a long time. I don't have any attachment to my 1593 01:12:38,600 --> 01:12:41,120 Speaker 7: childhood home anymore, so, at least in the near term, 1594 01:12:41,240 --> 01:12:42,960 Speaker 7: there's nothing for me to really go home. 1595 01:12:44,560 --> 01:12:46,479 Speaker 4: And you've got the wood and the tree still around, 1596 01:12:46,760 --> 01:12:48,800 Speaker 4: you know, there's still a little bit of still a 1597 01:12:48,800 --> 01:12:51,200 Speaker 4: little bit of sadness about this tree. But I think 1598 01:12:51,320 --> 01:12:53,599 Speaker 4: in the end, you got some of what you wanted. 1599 01:12:53,680 --> 01:12:54,360 Speaker 6: You got the wood. 1600 01:12:54,680 --> 01:12:56,600 Speaker 4: Your parents didn't get any of what they wanted to 1601 01:12:56,720 --> 01:12:57,200 Speaker 4: that that's a win. 1602 01:12:57,360 --> 01:12:58,040 Speaker 7: That's great news. 1603 01:12:58,320 --> 01:12:59,280 Speaker 4: Yeah, win is a win. 1604 01:13:00,120 --> 01:13:03,960 Speaker 7: It was a w by any other name. It sucks again, Like, 1605 01:13:04,240 --> 01:13:08,200 Speaker 7: it's not just a treehouse that was sweet to him. 1606 01:13:08,320 --> 01:13:11,960 Speaker 7: It was it was a sanctuary away from watching the 1607 01:13:12,120 --> 01:13:17,360 Speaker 7: parents fighting and conflict and physical altercations. Like, I'm sure 1608 01:13:17,400 --> 01:13:20,720 Speaker 7: that represents so much and it is almost sacred. And 1609 01:13:20,960 --> 01:13:24,080 Speaker 7: to have that torn down, Yeah, it's just so awful. 1610 01:13:25,880 --> 01:13:28,120 Speaker 4: My mom kicked me out of the house but still 1611 01:13:28,240 --> 01:13:30,080 Speaker 4: wants me to pay for lawn service. 1612 01:13:30,600 --> 01:13:31,679 Speaker 7: I ain't paying for crap. 1613 01:13:32,960 --> 01:13:35,519 Speaker 4: And this is a direct Okay storytime submission. 1614 01:13:35,680 --> 01:13:37,360 Speaker 3: This is from one of you guys. 1615 01:13:37,600 --> 01:13:42,639 Speaker 4: Oh, so, my mom and stepdad started divorcing last year. Together, 1616 01:13:42,760 --> 01:13:45,800 Speaker 4: they owned their house and two rentals. My mom stayed 1617 01:13:45,840 --> 01:13:48,080 Speaker 4: at the house and stepdad moved to one of the rentals. 1618 01:13:48,160 --> 01:13:50,960 Speaker 4: To my understanding, stepdad was getting the two rentals and 1619 01:13:51,160 --> 01:13:54,439 Speaker 4: mom the house in the division of assets once the 1620 01:13:54,520 --> 01:13:57,519 Speaker 4: divorce was finalized. By the way, this comes from more 1621 01:13:57,560 --> 01:14:00,880 Speaker 4: anger please on the okay storytime separate. So last year, 1622 01:14:00,920 --> 01:14:03,439 Speaker 4: at the end of summer, my best friend, Slash roommate, 1623 01:14:03,439 --> 01:14:05,360 Speaker 4: and I were told that our landlord was planning on 1624 01:14:05,479 --> 01:14:09,160 Speaker 4: selling their rental that we lived in, so sometime around 1625 01:14:09,320 --> 01:14:11,439 Speaker 4: the beginning of next summer. We were already thinking of 1626 01:14:11,520 --> 01:14:14,839 Speaker 4: moving soonish anyways, since we were both finished with college 1627 01:14:14,880 --> 01:14:17,800 Speaker 4: and ready for a more adult house, but we still 1628 01:14:17,920 --> 01:14:20,160 Speaker 4: didn't like the idea of looking for a new place 1629 01:14:20,320 --> 01:14:22,720 Speaker 4: since we were getting a great deal on rent and 1630 01:14:22,880 --> 01:14:25,160 Speaker 4: knew it would not be like that at a new place. 1631 01:14:25,320 --> 01:14:27,720 Speaker 4: My mom and stepdad offered their remaining rental at a 1632 01:14:27,760 --> 01:14:30,040 Speaker 4: discount at the limit of our budget, but would need 1633 01:14:30,160 --> 01:14:32,160 Speaker 4: us to move in much sooner than we were originally 1634 01:14:32,200 --> 01:14:34,679 Speaker 4: planning for when their tenant moved out at the beginning 1635 01:14:34,680 --> 01:14:37,120 Speaker 4: of fall. We jumped at the chance and were excited 1636 01:14:37,160 --> 01:14:39,160 Speaker 4: to have a bigger place since we were getting a 1637 01:14:39,240 --> 01:14:42,080 Speaker 4: discount on the rent. There was no negotiating Slash offer 1638 01:14:42,200 --> 01:14:45,160 Speaker 4: to have lawn or any other utilities included, not that 1639 01:14:45,280 --> 01:14:47,240 Speaker 4: we assumed there would be. We had lawns since we 1640 01:14:47,320 --> 01:14:50,160 Speaker 4: have lived right next door to our previous landlord and 1641 01:14:50,240 --> 01:14:52,920 Speaker 4: a super small yard. Neither of us liked doing yard work, 1642 01:14:53,000 --> 01:14:55,280 Speaker 4: so we were pretty lazy with upkeep and kind of 1643 01:14:55,360 --> 01:14:57,240 Speaker 4: let it run wild. But we didn't mind the look 1644 01:14:57,240 --> 01:14:59,920 Speaker 4: of it, and there weren't any city regulations we were violating. 1645 01:15:00,000 --> 01:15:02,320 Speaker 4: This was a concern brought up in case we were fine, 1646 01:15:02,400 --> 01:15:04,040 Speaker 4: so we looked it up. We were planning on living 1647 01:15:04,080 --> 01:15:05,880 Speaker 4: there for at least a couple of years and would 1648 01:15:05,960 --> 01:15:08,120 Speaker 4: obviously deal with the lawn at some point when we 1649 01:15:08,200 --> 01:15:10,599 Speaker 4: were ready to move. Also, to note, we didn't sign 1650 01:15:10,640 --> 01:15:13,639 Speaker 4: a lease or pay a deposit. We had agreed verbally 1651 01:15:13,760 --> 01:15:16,040 Speaker 4: that we'd be totally willing and kind of expected at 1652 01:15:16,120 --> 01:15:19,400 Speaker 4: least a deposit, but my stepdad had never gotten around 1653 01:15:19,439 --> 01:15:21,280 Speaker 4: to it. But again, we were planning on being here 1654 01:15:21,320 --> 01:15:23,680 Speaker 4: for a long time, so we weren't concerned. Then, not 1655 01:15:23,840 --> 01:15:26,160 Speaker 4: even a full two months ago, my mom texts me 1656 01:15:26,280 --> 01:15:28,280 Speaker 4: that she might be selling her house and was looking 1657 01:15:28,320 --> 01:15:30,640 Speaker 4: at her new living options because her current house was 1658 01:15:30,680 --> 01:15:33,000 Speaker 4: too expensive. We had talked about her keeping the house 1659 01:15:33,080 --> 01:15:35,560 Speaker 4: and her and stepdad's asset division before we moved in, 1660 01:15:35,840 --> 01:15:39,439 Speaker 4: so that this wouldn't happen. Then, a week after the text, 1661 01:15:39,560 --> 01:15:42,240 Speaker 4: which again was very nondescript and not final, we were 1662 01:15:42,280 --> 01:15:44,320 Speaker 4: having family dinner and she said that we needed to 1663 01:15:44,400 --> 01:15:47,799 Speaker 4: move out of our house once she sells hers. Obviously, 1664 01:15:48,000 --> 01:15:50,040 Speaker 4: best friend and I were upset, but I was trying 1665 01:15:50,080 --> 01:15:52,360 Speaker 4: to be understanding of the situation. But we had talked 1666 01:15:52,400 --> 01:15:54,439 Speaker 4: about this last year before we moved in, so that 1667 01:15:54,600 --> 01:15:57,800 Speaker 4: this situation could be avoided. It hasn't even been a 1668 01:15:57,920 --> 01:16:00,040 Speaker 4: year since we moved in either, so best friends and 1669 01:16:00,160 --> 01:16:02,880 Speaker 4: I frantically looked for a new place to live since 1670 01:16:02,920 --> 01:16:05,639 Speaker 4: we had no real timeline when her house would sell 1671 01:16:05,760 --> 01:16:07,640 Speaker 4: and we need to leave. We found a place and 1672 01:16:07,800 --> 01:16:09,800 Speaker 4: moved within a month of finding out we were being 1673 01:16:09,880 --> 01:16:11,840 Speaker 4: kicked out, so we weren't able to give a thirty 1674 01:16:11,920 --> 01:16:15,360 Speaker 4: day notice. Well you didn't really get a thirty day notice. 1675 01:16:15,560 --> 01:16:17,719 Speaker 4: You just gotta you gotta leave. At the same time, 1676 01:16:17,880 --> 01:16:19,800 Speaker 4: we hadn't been living there a full year and we 1677 01:16:19,920 --> 01:16:22,639 Speaker 4: were told we needed to get out soon anyway. Both 1678 01:16:22,720 --> 01:16:25,280 Speaker 4: mom and stepdad were out of town the weekend we moved, 1679 01:16:25,400 --> 01:16:27,599 Speaker 4: so we cleaned the place and left the spare key. 1680 01:16:27,760 --> 01:16:29,960 Speaker 4: Both mom and stepdad were out of town the weekend 1681 01:16:30,000 --> 01:16:32,000 Speaker 4: we moved, so we cleaned the place and left the 1682 01:16:32,040 --> 01:16:34,800 Speaker 4: spare key, assuming we'd drop off our keys later, and 1683 01:16:34,920 --> 01:16:37,639 Speaker 4: I texted them that it was all theirs now. Then 1684 01:16:37,720 --> 01:16:39,880 Speaker 4: they text me back to back about how we should 1685 01:16:39,880 --> 01:16:42,559 Speaker 4: pay for the yard service since we never got around 1686 01:16:42,600 --> 01:16:45,599 Speaker 4: to mowing and cleaning service because it was common courtesy 1687 01:16:45,840 --> 01:16:47,959 Speaker 4: and they had been doing us a favor by discounting 1688 01:16:48,000 --> 01:16:51,040 Speaker 4: rent until then. Now this pissed me off. They kick 1689 01:16:51,120 --> 01:16:53,160 Speaker 4: us out and then want us to pay for maintenance 1690 01:16:53,200 --> 01:16:55,120 Speaker 4: since we didn't pay a deposit, but it was their 1691 01:16:55,240 --> 01:16:57,719 Speaker 4: decision to not make us pay one we were ready 1692 01:16:57,760 --> 01:17:00,240 Speaker 4: and willing to, and that all of a sudden they asked, like, 1693 01:17:00,280 --> 01:17:03,320 Speaker 4: our relationship is that of regular landlords and tenants and 1694 01:17:03,479 --> 01:17:06,240 Speaker 4: holding discounted rent over our heads to guilt us into 1695 01:17:06,320 --> 01:17:08,400 Speaker 4: doing whatever for them. I told them that we wouldn't 1696 01:17:08,400 --> 01:17:11,400 Speaker 4: pay for lawn service and it was perfectly clean inside otherwise. 1697 01:17:11,600 --> 01:17:16,000 Speaker 4: My mom then texts me, calling me untitled, unempathetic, and disappointing. 1698 01:17:16,120 --> 01:17:19,599 Speaker 4: I've been super helpful and understanding throughout their whole divorce, 1699 01:17:19,760 --> 01:17:22,479 Speaker 4: and I was legitimately depressed because of it, and I've 1700 01:17:22,560 --> 01:17:24,400 Speaker 4: kept a level head the whole time we were being 1701 01:17:24,479 --> 01:17:26,360 Speaker 4: kicked out of her home. I didn't expect them to 1702 01:17:26,520 --> 01:17:29,840 Speaker 4: rent us their rental when we started looking last year. 1703 01:17:29,920 --> 01:17:32,479 Speaker 4: It was just super nice. The timing and budget worked, 1704 01:17:32,680 --> 01:17:35,120 Speaker 4: and besides the yard, we took good care of the place. 1705 01:17:35,320 --> 01:17:38,719 Speaker 4: I'm not understanding where I'm being entitled. I don't understand 1706 01:17:38,760 --> 01:17:41,560 Speaker 4: why my mom is making everything so transactional now, like 1707 01:17:41,640 --> 01:17:43,360 Speaker 4: she does something for me, so I have to do 1708 01:17:43,439 --> 01:17:46,080 Speaker 4: what she wants to pay her back. Is that not entitled? 1709 01:17:46,280 --> 01:17:48,640 Speaker 4: I'm frustrated by her lack of long term planning and 1710 01:17:48,720 --> 01:17:52,400 Speaker 4: how it's affecting my living situation and my life so heavily. Yeah, 1711 01:17:52,439 --> 01:17:55,519 Speaker 4: I mean, she's expecting this kind of landlord treatment or 1712 01:17:55,640 --> 01:17:58,920 Speaker 4: at least like renterer treatment from you guys, but is 1713 01:17:59,000 --> 01:18:02,400 Speaker 4: not giving that same landlord courtesy back. It would just 1714 01:18:02,439 --> 01:18:05,400 Speaker 4: be a lot more formal with an actual landlord, and 1715 01:18:05,600 --> 01:18:08,600 Speaker 4: she's trying to impose that formality, but also you know, 1716 01:18:08,680 --> 01:18:10,400 Speaker 4: kicking them out with very little notice, and. 1717 01:18:10,479 --> 01:18:12,320 Speaker 3: So it's yeah, it's kind of weird. 1718 01:18:12,640 --> 01:18:17,000 Speaker 7: The short noticing is interesting. I'm curious. I want more 1719 01:18:17,040 --> 01:18:21,320 Speaker 7: context for that. And then there's like other kind of 1720 01:18:21,520 --> 01:18:24,120 Speaker 7: interesting things because it's like family. I don't think it's 1721 01:18:24,200 --> 01:18:28,719 Speaker 7: that unreasonable to ask for them to pay for yard service. Yeah, 1722 01:18:28,880 --> 01:18:31,080 Speaker 7: I don't know if it's like OP is making the 1723 01:18:31,120 --> 01:18:34,599 Speaker 7: assumption they're holding it over our head because we didn't 1724 01:18:34,600 --> 01:18:38,120 Speaker 7: pay the deposit and that and like other things there. 1725 01:18:38,160 --> 01:18:40,640 Speaker 7: But I don't know if that's necessarily true. I think 1726 01:18:40,680 --> 01:18:44,000 Speaker 7: it's just common courtesy. If you're living somewhere, it's your 1727 01:18:44,040 --> 01:18:46,320 Speaker 7: decision to take care of the lawn. But if not in, 1728 01:18:46,400 --> 01:18:48,360 Speaker 7: the lawn needs to be taken care of when you 1729 01:18:48,520 --> 01:18:51,280 Speaker 7: move out. That's kind of like what you pay for. Yeah, 1730 01:18:51,400 --> 01:18:54,479 Speaker 7: and like the house, if it's unclean, you pay for that. 1731 01:18:54,760 --> 01:18:58,160 Speaker 7: And sure that's like a standard you know, landlord, non 1732 01:18:58,280 --> 01:19:01,320 Speaker 7: family agreement. But I also think with family that's still 1733 01:19:01,479 --> 01:19:04,680 Speaker 7: common courtesy, and the fact that like they're upset that 1734 01:19:04,760 --> 01:19:06,800 Speaker 7: their mom would dare ask for that is a little 1735 01:19:06,840 --> 01:19:07,439 Speaker 7: confusing to me. 1736 01:19:07,800 --> 01:19:10,720 Speaker 4: I think that next time, if you ever have to, 1737 01:19:10,800 --> 01:19:14,240 Speaker 4: like you know, live in a family member's home or 1738 01:19:14,280 --> 01:19:16,160 Speaker 4: something and there's some sort of rental agreement, there just 1739 01:19:16,200 --> 01:19:17,960 Speaker 4: needs to be a lot more like you have to 1740 01:19:18,040 --> 01:19:20,080 Speaker 4: go through it a lot more formally so that you 1741 01:19:20,320 --> 01:19:22,760 Speaker 4: each you know, you both know what the expectations are. 1742 01:19:22,920 --> 01:19:25,320 Speaker 7: Do you think it's unreasonable to ask, like, hey, the 1743 01:19:25,439 --> 01:19:27,920 Speaker 7: yard's a mess, can you can you fix that? People 1744 01:19:28,400 --> 01:19:28,960 Speaker 7: that we don't have. 1745 01:19:29,040 --> 01:19:31,400 Speaker 4: To the only reason, Yeah, I do kind of agree 1746 01:19:31,479 --> 01:19:35,400 Speaker 4: on that part because OPI said, oh, like we would 1747 01:19:35,800 --> 01:19:37,680 Speaker 4: they were going to clean up the yard, but then 1748 01:19:37,720 --> 01:19:40,439 Speaker 4: didn't because they got pushed out quickly. But I do 1749 01:19:40,600 --> 01:19:42,880 Speaker 4: think that there's just a lot of you know, like 1750 01:19:43,280 --> 01:19:46,360 Speaker 4: disrespect on the parents side as well, in terms of 1751 01:19:46,520 --> 01:19:48,080 Speaker 4: just pushing them out, because that's I mean, that was 1752 01:19:48,160 --> 01:19:50,800 Speaker 4: pretty out of nowhere when they they were it seems 1753 01:19:50,800 --> 01:19:52,439 Speaker 4: like Ope and her friend were under the impression that 1754 01:19:52,439 --> 01:19:53,439 Speaker 4: they would be there for years. 1755 01:19:53,640 --> 01:19:56,040 Speaker 7: Yeah, and we're there for like half year, I think, 1756 01:19:56,400 --> 01:19:58,400 Speaker 7: to say like you need to do this, and then 1757 01:19:58,479 --> 01:20:00,400 Speaker 7: if they don't, and then holding the money over to 1758 01:20:00,560 --> 01:20:03,280 Speaker 7: like insult them and saying like, oh, you're so this 1759 01:20:03,439 --> 01:20:05,320 Speaker 7: and this and this, rather than like having an adult 1760 01:20:05,360 --> 01:20:08,360 Speaker 7: conversation of like, hey, look like this is why we 1761 01:20:08,479 --> 01:20:11,680 Speaker 7: think you should and like we would like you to 1762 01:20:11,800 --> 01:20:12,000 Speaker 7: do this. 1763 01:20:12,280 --> 01:20:13,719 Speaker 4: Yeah. I feel like you could just say I feel 1764 01:20:13,720 --> 01:20:15,720 Speaker 4: like the parents could have just said, hey, could you 1765 01:20:15,920 --> 01:20:17,920 Speaker 4: help us clean up the yard? Could you mean to 1766 01:20:18,040 --> 01:20:19,800 Speaker 4: help us? Like I know we had talked about you 1767 01:20:19,880 --> 01:20:22,080 Speaker 4: guys maintaining the yard. Do you mind you know, doing 1768 01:20:22,160 --> 01:20:24,320 Speaker 4: that before you move out? Sorry for the yeah, but 1769 01:20:24,400 --> 01:20:27,080 Speaker 4: there was just a lot of lack of communication, I think, 1770 01:20:27,200 --> 01:20:29,240 Speaker 4: and also usually, I think when you move out of 1771 01:20:29,680 --> 01:20:32,840 Speaker 4: a house for cleaning services, that's not usually tied with 1772 01:20:33,120 --> 01:20:34,720 Speaker 4: a deposit. Those are two separate things. 1773 01:20:34,960 --> 01:20:37,080 Speaker 7: Actually, no, it's it is tied to the deposit, not 1774 01:20:37,479 --> 01:20:37,720 Speaker 7: or at. 1775 01:20:37,760 --> 01:20:41,400 Speaker 4: Least in the last place that I went to wasn't tied. 1776 01:20:41,800 --> 01:20:42,080 Speaker 5: It was. 1777 01:20:42,280 --> 01:20:44,719 Speaker 4: There was a cleaning fee and then there was a deposit. 1778 01:20:45,000 --> 01:20:47,040 Speaker 7: Yeah, but if there needs to be a cleaning fee, 1779 01:20:47,080 --> 01:20:48,240 Speaker 7: that's taken out of the deposit. 1780 01:20:48,320 --> 01:20:50,320 Speaker 4: I believe hmmm, there was a separate thing. 1781 01:20:51,040 --> 01:20:53,840 Speaker 7: Yeah, Okay, I think that it's totally we'll get back 1782 01:20:53,840 --> 01:20:56,280 Speaker 7: to the store. But I think it's totally reasonable to 1783 01:20:56,840 --> 01:20:58,840 Speaker 7: expect them to take care of the lawn. And I 1784 01:20:58,880 --> 01:21:00,880 Speaker 7: think it could have been communicating it in a different way. 1785 01:21:01,040 --> 01:21:03,040 Speaker 4: Yeah, I think so too. But her situation does not 1786 01:21:03,200 --> 01:21:05,200 Speaker 4: mean that I need to help her in every which way, 1787 01:21:05,479 --> 01:21:08,400 Speaker 4: even at the detriment to my livelihood. I've been helpful 1788 01:21:08,439 --> 01:21:11,519 Speaker 4: when I can be and never expected anything in return 1789 01:21:11,680 --> 01:21:14,559 Speaker 4: because she's my mom and family. But now I'm entitled 1790 01:21:14,600 --> 01:21:16,240 Speaker 4: if I don't do one thing to help her out. 1791 01:21:16,400 --> 01:21:18,439 Speaker 4: By the way, you can help us out by joining 1792 01:21:18,520 --> 01:21:22,040 Speaker 4: us live every weekday at three pm PSD on YouTube, Facebook, 1793 01:21:22,120 --> 01:21:24,599 Speaker 4: and TikTok. But there is a little bit left. 1794 01:21:24,400 --> 01:21:26,880 Speaker 7: To this story, but in some sense there weren't in 1795 01:21:27,040 --> 01:21:30,120 Speaker 7: that they said they would pay for the yard at 1796 01:21:30,200 --> 01:21:33,880 Speaker 7: some point, and then when the parents were expecting that 1797 01:21:34,000 --> 01:21:36,840 Speaker 7: to be fulfilled, oh Pie said, how dare you, yeah, 1798 01:21:37,200 --> 01:21:39,320 Speaker 7: ask for this thing that I said I was going 1799 01:21:39,400 --> 01:21:39,560 Speaker 7: to do. 1800 01:21:39,760 --> 01:21:42,600 Speaker 4: Yeah, I am wondering why, why, Like I was the 1801 01:21:42,640 --> 01:21:46,080 Speaker 4: switch up only because of the you know, the fact 1802 01:21:46,080 --> 01:21:48,240 Speaker 4: that your mom and stepdad just kind of randomly pushed 1803 01:21:48,280 --> 01:21:51,720 Speaker 4: you out or was you know, what was the original plan. 1804 01:21:51,920 --> 01:21:54,479 Speaker 4: I'm taking a break from them and limiting contact because 1805 01:21:54,479 --> 01:21:56,479 Speaker 4: of how everything has been handled in regards to me. 1806 01:21:57,000 --> 01:21:59,720 Speaker 4: But I'm still overthinking every interaction we've had the past 1807 01:21:59,720 --> 01:22:03,639 Speaker 4: two I'll add even more background context, but this already 1808 01:22:03,640 --> 01:22:06,439 Speaker 4: seems so long. I just want some outside perspective because 1809 01:22:06,520 --> 01:22:09,360 Speaker 4: my friends are obviously siding with me, and so are 1810 01:22:09,439 --> 01:22:12,680 Speaker 4: best friends' parents. But did I overreact? I think at 1811 01:22:12,720 --> 01:22:16,000 Speaker 4: the end of the day, I think it's very unreasonable 1812 01:22:16,080 --> 01:22:18,720 Speaker 4: for your parents to push you out without having a 1813 01:22:18,800 --> 01:22:22,400 Speaker 4: proper conversation about, you know, when you need to be out, 1814 01:22:22,400 --> 01:22:24,240 Speaker 4: because it seems like they never clarified that. 1815 01:22:24,800 --> 01:22:27,960 Speaker 7: I agree, unless it was an emergency, which is unclear. 1816 01:22:27,720 --> 01:22:29,320 Speaker 4: Which we don't know. It doesn't seem like Opee was 1817 01:22:29,360 --> 01:22:31,400 Speaker 4: told that, which again goes back to the. 1818 01:22:31,479 --> 01:22:34,840 Speaker 7: They didn't really give a reason. No, op didn't give 1819 01:22:34,880 --> 01:22:35,680 Speaker 7: a reason. 1820 01:22:35,479 --> 01:22:36,920 Speaker 4: Which maybe Ope was never told the. 1821 01:22:36,920 --> 01:22:39,000 Speaker 7: Reason maybe or maybe you didn't include that. 1822 01:22:39,200 --> 01:22:43,200 Speaker 4: Yeah, but I do think paying for lawn service is 1823 01:22:43,560 --> 01:22:45,680 Speaker 4: fair or is a fair ask on their end. I 1824 01:22:45,760 --> 01:22:48,720 Speaker 4: think it's very fair, only because you also said that 1825 01:22:48,800 --> 01:22:49,640 Speaker 4: you were going to do that. 1826 01:22:50,000 --> 01:22:54,320 Speaker 7: Whether it's family or not, like a like a normal landlord, 1827 01:22:54,439 --> 01:22:57,439 Speaker 7: I think it's still just decency. You leave the house 1828 01:22:57,520 --> 01:22:59,960 Speaker 7: in wonderful condition, if there was upkeep that needed to happen, 1829 01:23:00,000 --> 01:23:02,120 Speaker 7: and if there was maintenance and that didn't happen because 1830 01:23:02,120 --> 01:23:06,200 Speaker 7: of you, it's it's decent, it's the law to do it. 1831 01:23:06,600 --> 01:23:08,799 Speaker 7: If not, if it's family, I think it's just decency 1832 01:23:08,920 --> 01:23:12,240 Speaker 7: of like, yeah, I'm going to, you know, put this 1833 01:23:12,479 --> 01:23:13,760 Speaker 7: in the condition I got it in. 1834 01:23:13,960 --> 01:23:17,000 Speaker 4: Yeah. That was the end of that story. Actually, there's 1835 01:23:17,040 --> 01:23:18,800 Speaker 4: no more to that story. And that was the end 1836 01:23:18,840 --> 01:23:22,599 Speaker 4: of this episode. Oh yes, So if you love us, 1837 01:23:22,760 --> 01:23:25,560 Speaker 4: make sure to subscribe and s