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Speaker 1: part of the Herd Ensemble, also part of the volume.

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Speaker 1: He's got his daily morning podcast, will be joining us.

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Speaker 1: He's all fired up for Dalvin Cook to the Jets,

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Speaker 1: and we'll get to that in a second. But you know,

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Speaker 1: I was thinking about something today because Ezekiel Elliott Zeke

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Speaker 1: life that I seek value with. I've got very flat,

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Speaker 1: but comfort Trump's style and fashion. Same with cars, cars

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Speaker 1: demere transportation. I know many of you have that testosterone

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Speaker 1: things I just won't go cheap on. I tell my

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Speaker 1: for my kids, and experiences because when Dad's gone, you know,

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Speaker 1: I want those to be great memories. And I think

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Speaker 1: most of you, you know, there's certain things when I

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Speaker 1: I'm not going to do value in certain things like coffee.

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Speaker 1: And I think it's interesting that the Patriots sign Ezekiel

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Speaker 1: Elliott again, going for a guy that can get value

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Speaker 1: you with past his prime. He can be a three

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Speaker 1: down back, but he's lost a lot of his horsepower.

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Speaker 1: And you know, they signed Devonte Parker. There's not a

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Speaker 1: think in twenty twenty three, Kyle Shanahan's not seeking value.

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Speaker 1: He went and he spent a lot of money and

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Speaker 1: They're not seeking value, They're seeking greatness because the game

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Speaker 1: I think if you're going to seek value in the

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Speaker 1: Cook is still got I think traces of his prime left.

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Speaker 1: And I don't think Zeke is a bad signing, but

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Speaker 1: I don't think it's a significant move. I think Dalvin

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Speaker 1: Cook's a better player. But we've seen it didn't matter

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Speaker 1: if it was a hunter Henry Nelson agolar at one point,

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Speaker 1: Bill's Oway's seeking value and there's just not a lot

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Speaker 1: So I don't think it's a bad signing, but I

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Speaker 1: have most of their offensive weapons, have moved out of

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Speaker 1: their sweet spot athletically. Now Dalvin Cook to the Jets.

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Speaker 1: My gut feeling on this, and he's a guy that

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Speaker 1: Aaron was like, Okay, I'll give some money back. What

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Speaker 1: I'm a little surprised they caved. Jerry has often done

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Speaker 1: we bring in Jmac. So how fitting Dalvin Cook signs

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Speaker 1: with the Jets. He can block, he can catch, he

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Speaker 1: can run. I still feel like he may have one

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Speaker 1: like his three years out of his prime. At least two.

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Speaker 1: I feel like Dalvin Cook, it feels like he's closer

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Speaker 2: I'm not just saying this as a hyperbolic Jets fan.

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Speaker 2: You know, we had this interview schedule before the Dalvin

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Speaker 2: There wasn't a drop off last year. The reason the

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Speaker 2: They simply cannot afford him. And to build a team

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Speaker 2: when you got to pay Justin Jefferson, the salary of

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Speaker 2: The Jets have the best skill position players in the division.

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Speaker 2: But you look at that Jets team, Colin, I'm being

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Speaker 2: But Colin, like I like the depth idea above. You

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Speaker 2: we don't know how Breese Hall is going to react

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Speaker 2: And I'll challenge you, Colin to find a team that

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Speaker 1: sounds good, but I like really great playmakers. My argument

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Speaker 1: I feel like I've got most of my divisions down

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Speaker 2: I was gonna save this for the herd. It's probably

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Speaker 2: So they missed the playoffs, Chargers do they say, you

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Speaker 2: We gotta get Jim Harball in here. And Chargers missed

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Speaker 2: Urban Meyer, great coaches, struggled in the NFL. You would

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Speaker 2: leave Michigan and it would be deemed to success if

427
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Speaker 2: you finished with three straight wins over the Buckeyes. I

428
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Speaker 2: don't even remember the last time Michigan did that against

429
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Speaker 2: Ohio State and you got to the playoff and even

430
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Speaker 2: won a playoff game. And so if Jim Harbaugh, let's

431
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Speaker 2: say they lose to LSU or George in the final,

432
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Speaker 2: Harbaugh could say I took over for Brady Hoke, it

433
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Speaker 2: was a mess, won ten games the first year, ended

434
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Speaker 2: up in the last three years getting to the playoff twice,

435
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Speaker 2: three straight Ohio State wins and losing to an SEC

436
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Speaker 2: power in the final. That's absolutely a success story for Michigan. Absolutely,

437
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Speaker 2: Jim Harbaugh can leave with his head high because what

438
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Speaker 2: forced like Jimmy Johnson, Pete Carroll out And I think

439
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Speaker 2: I think this has happened to a lot of coaches.

440
00:24:10,160 --> 00:24:12,679
Speaker 2: They get worn out from kind of the hipocrisy, the

441
00:24:12,760 --> 00:24:15,120
Speaker 2: NC doublea where they sort of pick and choose who

442
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Speaker 2: they punish. I think Jim Horr, Jim Harbaugh would look

443
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Speaker 2: at it and say enough, I mean guys, we're doing

444
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Speaker 2: cheeseburgers here. You've got SEC schools paying players through the

445
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Speaker 2: churches for a thousand years. I could see Harriba if

446
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Speaker 2: they beat the bucket.

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Speaker 1: It's one of those things where Ohio State fans would

448
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Speaker 1: privately have to admit Harbaugh beating is for the third

449
00:24:37,680 --> 00:24:40,200
Speaker 1: time in a row is a good thing because he

450
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Speaker 1: leaves and then who's on the market. So kind of

451
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Speaker 1: my takeaway is it would be the time NC doblea

452
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Speaker 1: breathing down your neck playoffs, second year in a row,

453
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Speaker 1: Buckeye win. I can see it happening.

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Speaker 2: And the good think about the options that Harba was

455
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Speaker 2: thinking about the Carolina Panthers who had the number one pick.

456
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Speaker 2: They got Bryce Young, Like you like Bryce Young than

457
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Speaker 2: I do. He's probably going to be a fine quarterback

458
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Speaker 2: under no circumstances. Is he ever going to be as

459
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Speaker 2: good at in the NFL as Justin Herbert, Let's just

460
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Speaker 2: be obvious. And then he talked to the Vikings Kirk Cousins.

461
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Speaker 2: Very good quarterback won a lot of games. I don't

462
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Speaker 2: I think if you and I and like thirty two

463
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Speaker 2: NFL gms were pulled, they'd rather have Justin Herbert than

464
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Speaker 2: Kirk Cousins. So this is one of those jobs where

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Speaker 2: it's going to be a feeding friends. We had Sean

466
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Speaker 2: Payton ticketed for this job, and then Staley makes the

467
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Speaker 2: playoffs and it looked like that, you know, up was

468
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Speaker 2: it twenty seven to three or whatever in the playoffs,

469
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Speaker 2: like it looked like Staley was fine. Then he blows

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Speaker 2: the game. He thought, oh, he's going to get fired,

471
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Speaker 2: and they kept him and replace his offensive coordinator. So

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Speaker 2: we'll see. But Jim Harmar or the Chargers would sure

473
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Speaker 2: spice things up. Especially Chargers, right, you know, dealing with

474
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Speaker 2: the Rams out here, and the Rams are like the

475
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Speaker 2: big deal. They win the Super Bowl, we got we

476
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Speaker 2: got to do something right.

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Speaker 1: Well, he'd have his left tackle and Rashawn Slater, he'd

478
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Speaker 1: have a star young receiver. He'd have his center and

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Speaker 1: Cole Linsley, Corey Linsley, he'd have his quarterback. The Spanhouses

480
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Speaker 1: are not big metal er. They're really not. You can

481
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Speaker 1: say they go cheap. They're not medalers. And Tom Telesco

482
00:26:04,520 --> 00:26:09,120
Speaker 1: is considered a very solid top ten twelve general manager.

483
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Speaker 1: That's about as well as you can do. I mean,

484
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Speaker 1: if you go look at most job openings in the NFL.

485
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Speaker 1: Washington could have one. You've got Sam Howe. Dallas could

486
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Speaker 1: potentially have one. You've got the meddling of Jerry Jones.

487
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Speaker 1: I mean you start looking around and you're like, who else. Well,

488
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Speaker 1: the Raiders can't have one. You don't have a quarterback.

489
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Speaker 1: Tampa could have one. I like the GM, but right

490
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Speaker 1: now you don't have a quarterback. The Chargers, I get

491
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Speaker 1: a left tackle, star receiver, quarterback, center, excellent GM quality

492
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Speaker 1: of life. Harbaugh's gonna have choices. And my takeaway is

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Speaker 1: with the Spanoshos, open up the checkbook. Their history is

494
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Speaker 1: no on coaches, but Marty Schottenneimer wasn't cheap, so they

495
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Speaker 1: deserve credit there. Marty Schottenneimer wasn't cheap. I think I

496
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Speaker 1: don't think that's a crazy I mean one of the

497
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Speaker 1: things you and I like to do is theorize, you know,

498
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Speaker 1: make predictions, and I don't think that's a crazy one. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: When one of the things that I watched this weekend,

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Speaker 1: and I think it's really changed in football is you know,

501
00:27:13,800 --> 00:27:16,960
Speaker 1: like if you go if you have a real stable life,

502
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Speaker 1: you have really good parents, and you go to a

503
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Speaker 1: prep school and you go to a college, then I'm

504
00:27:20,359 --> 00:27:22,240
Speaker 1: going to expect you, at twenty three years old to

505
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Speaker 1: kind of have your act together out of college. If

506
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Speaker 1: you're a child of divorce, went to a junior college,

507
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Speaker 1: have no money, chaotic family, you know, I'm going to

508
00:27:30,119 --> 00:27:34,960
Speaker 1: view you differently. So your journey is going to basically

509
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Speaker 1: change my expectations of what you should do as a

510
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Speaker 1: young quarterback. Like I watched Jordan Love sale the ball

511
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Speaker 1: over Musgrave, I watched a less than five yards and

512
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Speaker 1: attempt offensive game plan by the Packers. Seriously, Jason, I

513
00:27:52,960 --> 00:27:55,200
Speaker 1: think the Packers know he can't play. I think they

514
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Speaker 1: know it, and I think they're just trying to have

515
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Speaker 1: him manage. I sat and watched that game. I'm like,

516
00:28:03,520 --> 00:28:09,680
Speaker 1: this feels like Kenny Pickett averaged double per attempt. Kenny

517
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Speaker 1: Pickett with that offensive line, you can't trust more than

518
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Speaker 1: double Jordan Love's passing attempt yards. I mean, I just

519
00:28:18,680 --> 00:28:21,119
Speaker 1: watched it. I watched more preseason than you, and I'm like,

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Speaker 1: this ain't it, man, this is not gonna work.

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Speaker 2: I'm mostly with you. The only thing giving me pause

522
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Speaker 2: is that Packer schedule and just how soft and easy

523
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Speaker 2: it is. Could they gum it up with defense? And

524
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Speaker 2: running and win some seventeen thirteen slugfests against CJ. Stroud

525
00:28:39,560 --> 00:28:43,640
Speaker 2: and the you know young quarterbacks. Sure they could. Like overall,

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Speaker 2: the Packers have talent, I mean Colin, That defense has

527
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Speaker 2: a lot of names, a lot of first round picks.

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Speaker 2: Offensive line will see. We know they have two good

529
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Speaker 2: running backs. Like even if Jordan Love's not that dude,

530
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Speaker 2: and I think you and I probably both, I think

531
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Speaker 2: I'm on board with you. He ain't the guy. But

532
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Speaker 2: there's a world where they say, hey, let's rate it in,

533
00:29:00,160 --> 00:29:02,760
Speaker 2: do a lot of play action, a lot of bootleg

534
00:29:02,840 --> 00:29:05,760
Speaker 2: and nothing. You talk about thirty throws with Dak let's

535
00:29:05,840 --> 00:29:08,160
Speaker 2: kind of limit Jordan Love to like twenty passes. We'll

536
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Speaker 2: come out early, be aggressive on first down, throwing to

537
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Speaker 2: make manageable second and third downs, and let's get a

538
00:29:13,680 --> 00:29:18,160
Speaker 2: ten nothing lead win with defense. I don't think this

539
00:29:18,240 --> 00:29:21,200
Speaker 2: is going to be anything long term. With Jordan Love

540
00:29:21,200 --> 00:29:23,160
Speaker 2: in the package. It just doesn't feel like a marriage

541
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Speaker 2: made in heaven.

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Speaker 1: So when I first met you, I knew you were

543
00:29:27,600 --> 00:29:30,880
Speaker 1: a huge NFL guy and a huge college basketball guy.

544
00:29:30,960 --> 00:29:34,080
Speaker 1: I don't remember. I've always been a college football guy, NFL,

545
00:29:34,120 --> 00:29:38,040
Speaker 1: college football, NBA, and I have an emerging love for UFC,

546
00:29:38,120 --> 00:29:43,680
Speaker 1: which I find it wildly entertaining. So I love college football.

547
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Speaker 1: One of the things that's not good for our business

548
00:29:46,400 --> 00:29:49,000
Speaker 1: is regionalism, which is why baseball is a hard topic

549
00:29:49,040 --> 00:29:51,160
Speaker 1: for us. People say sometimes not very often, but somebody

550
00:29:51,200 --> 00:29:52,280
Speaker 1: will come up and say, you guys don't talk a

551
00:29:52,320 --> 00:29:54,400
Speaker 1: lot of baseball, And I always say it's regional, Like

552
00:29:54,440 --> 00:29:57,600
Speaker 1: nobody in Minnesota is going to watch the Mariners, and

553
00:29:57,640 --> 00:30:01,200
Speaker 1: nobody in Seattle is going to watch UH Tampa Bay.

554
00:30:01,440 --> 00:30:03,320
Speaker 1: Like people watch their team and that's it. They don't

555
00:30:03,320 --> 00:30:05,560
Speaker 1: watch now in the NFL or the NBA, you'll watch

556
00:30:05,600 --> 00:30:09,600
Speaker 1: other stars and other teams. And so I think this

557
00:30:09,720 --> 00:30:16,440
Speaker 1: is the best college football year potentially that I remember, USC, Texas, Clemson, Michigan,

558
00:30:16,600 --> 00:30:21,120
Speaker 1: Ohio State, LSU, Georgia, Bama. I think all are fairly similar.

559
00:30:21,320 --> 00:30:26,360
Speaker 1: Bama and Georgia have better rosters, don't have the quarterback Texas,

560
00:30:26,800 --> 00:30:29,960
Speaker 1: USC don't quite have the rosters, but have great quarterbacks.

561
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Speaker 1: Are you a huge college football fan because we've.

562
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Speaker 2: Are you love college football? So you know that you

563
00:30:36,920 --> 00:30:39,959
Speaker 2: talked about having when you had kids. So we had

564
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Speaker 2: kids when we were in Pennsylvania, and I would I

565
00:30:42,720 --> 00:30:45,120
Speaker 2: would like wake up Saturday, you know the usual, Hey

566
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Speaker 2: got to watch the college football pregame shows that I'm

567
00:30:48,000 --> 00:30:50,320
Speaker 2: sitting around watching the games. Well you get the you

568
00:30:50,360 --> 00:30:51,600
Speaker 2: got a wife and then you get kids and you

569
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Speaker 2: got to make decisions. I'm like, hey, I'm going to

570
00:30:53,640 --> 00:30:56,440
Speaker 2: do this all day Sunday. Can I still do it

571
00:30:56,480 --> 00:31:00,440
Speaker 2: all day Saturday? And that doesn't totally work. And so

572
00:31:00,680 --> 00:31:02,920
Speaker 2: I didn't abandon college football, but I stopped watching the

573
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Speaker 2: pregame shows. This is like, you know, ten, twelve years ago.

574
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Speaker 2: And then once you stop like getting into the pregame shows,

575
00:31:08,400 --> 00:31:10,720
Speaker 2: then you're okay, well I can miss the kickoff, you know,

576
00:31:10,800 --> 00:31:12,840
Speaker 2: the early games, and then it's like, oh, they're putting

577
00:31:12,840 --> 00:31:14,920
Speaker 2: all the good games at night. I'll I'll just punt

578
00:31:15,000 --> 00:31:16,840
Speaker 2: until the night games. And then it's like, wait a minute,

579
00:31:16,880 --> 00:31:19,320
Speaker 2: Saturday night, I kind of want to go out. So, yes,

580
00:31:19,360 --> 00:31:22,120
Speaker 2: college football has gone taken a backseat to me. But Colin,

581
00:31:22,160 --> 00:31:24,320
Speaker 2: what I'll say is interesting is this when I got

582
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Speaker 2: to Fox, you know, my history as like a worker

583
00:31:28,840 --> 00:31:31,520
Speaker 2: in media, I'm like finding any angle I can succeed

584
00:31:31,560 --> 00:31:34,640
Speaker 2: in collecting whatever domain expertise I can and then just

585
00:31:34,680 --> 00:31:39,560
Speaker 2: going full home. So college football season starts. I think

586
00:31:39,560 --> 00:31:41,440
Speaker 2: this was twenty eighteen, and I went to our digital

587
00:31:41,440 --> 00:31:43,280
Speaker 2: team and I was like, Hey, why are we not

588
00:31:43,320 --> 00:31:45,840
Speaker 2: doing any college football gambling? Guys, I'm watching the games,

589
00:31:45,840 --> 00:31:47,960
Speaker 2: I'm betting on the games. Let's do some videos. So

590
00:31:48,000 --> 00:31:50,160
Speaker 2: I started doing videos on college football. We do like

591
00:31:50,240 --> 00:31:53,000
Speaker 2: a pick six and Texas Oklahoma, who you got? And

592
00:31:53,040 --> 00:31:55,040
Speaker 2: I break it down for like thirty seconds. And we

593
00:31:55,120 --> 00:31:57,400
Speaker 2: start to post these videos online for Fox Sports and

594
00:31:57,400 --> 00:31:59,840
Speaker 2: they're like, holy cow, we got to do this big.

595
00:32:00,080 --> 00:32:02,800
Speaker 2: So we're doing all these gambling videos and that fed

596
00:32:02,840 --> 00:32:05,400
Speaker 2: my college football even more to gambling, and then I

597
00:32:05,400 --> 00:32:08,160
Speaker 2: started to do draft stuff. So in a weird way,

598
00:32:08,200 --> 00:32:11,000
Speaker 2: I don't watch as much, but I'm definitely reading as

599
00:32:11,040 --> 00:32:12,960
Speaker 2: much because I've got to pay attention to injuries and

600
00:32:13,000 --> 00:32:15,360
Speaker 2: the coaching moves. And I have some friends who are

601
00:32:15,360 --> 00:32:19,200
Speaker 2: in the let's just say executive search firm world, and

602
00:32:19,240 --> 00:32:21,640
Speaker 2: they like to feed me who's hot, who people are coveting,

603
00:32:22,800 --> 00:32:25,560
Speaker 2: and so I'm definitely paying attention. But I'm not watching

604
00:32:25,600 --> 00:32:27,760
Speaker 2: as much because you know, time is tough when you

605
00:32:27,840 --> 00:32:28,760
Speaker 2: got two young kids.

606
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Speaker 1: No listen, it's a reality. So my kids are out

607
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Speaker 1: of the house now, so I have nothing but time

608
00:32:33,960 --> 00:32:36,560
Speaker 1: to watch sports, so I did go through about it.

609
00:32:36,560 --> 00:32:39,360
Speaker 1: I would say about an eight year period where college

610
00:32:39,360 --> 00:32:40,960
Speaker 1: football was harder for me. I had to kind of

611
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Speaker 1: make a choice, you know, So I would pick like

612
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Speaker 1: two early games. When I first started watching college football

613
00:32:48,000 --> 00:32:49,640
Speaker 1: years ago, they'd put the best games of the day

614
00:32:49,680 --> 00:32:52,240
Speaker 1: on at nine in the morning thirty years ago. But

615
00:32:52,360 --> 00:32:54,120
Speaker 1: now there's so much money to be made. Most of

616
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Speaker 1: the good games outside of Fox's noon game, most of

617
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Speaker 1: them are three point thirty Pacific on and so you know,

618
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Speaker 1: I had to watch that early game, but Ann wanted

619
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Speaker 1: to go out by like seven thirty. And it's like

620
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Speaker 1: I had to make that choice because Sunday night football,

621
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Speaker 1: you know, is top of the chart. So I do

622
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Speaker 1: think you and I both put our family first. But

623
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Speaker 1: I think college football this year is really going to be.

624
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Speaker 1: It's going to be, I think, as captivating as college

625
00:33:23,400 --> 00:33:26,720
Speaker 1: football's been in probably fifteen years. I think one of

626
00:33:26,720 --> 00:33:32,479
Speaker 1: the things that's interesting is the NIL is a bit

627
00:33:32,560 --> 00:33:34,880
Speaker 1: of an s show, and so is the transfer portal.

628
00:33:35,440 --> 00:33:39,920
Speaker 1: And for a long time, college football coaches would tell

629
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Speaker 1: me that they preferred college over the NFL because you

630
00:33:44,080 --> 00:33:47,320
Speaker 1: had more off time. Well, now there's two recruiting periods

631
00:33:47,360 --> 00:33:49,880
Speaker 1: and now the transfer portal. And the truth is the

632
00:33:50,000 --> 00:33:53,760
Speaker 1: NFL job is better than the college job and now

633
00:33:53,840 --> 00:33:57,240
Speaker 1: pays more with a better pension. So I wonder how

634
00:33:57,400 --> 00:34:02,440
Speaker 1: long college football can keep Lincoln Riley and Jim Harbaugh

635
00:34:02,760 --> 00:34:05,920
Speaker 1: and some of these very clever offensive coaches Ryan Day

636
00:34:06,360 --> 00:34:08,799
Speaker 1: because it was always understood you had control of your

637
00:34:08,800 --> 00:34:12,000
Speaker 1: personnel in college. You were the richest guy on campus,

638
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Speaker 1: you didn't have a crazy owner, and you had a

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Speaker 1: really nice offseason. That off season's over. Lincoln Riley may

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Speaker 1: get six days a year. He's got nil, he's got

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Speaker 1: transfer portal, he's got two recruiting periods, he's got boosters.

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Speaker 1: So I think one of the trends to keep your

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Speaker 1: eye on over the next three years is can usc

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Speaker 1: they can pay Lincoln Riley? Can they keep him? I

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Speaker 1: think it's become a miserable job. Now your plane flights

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Speaker 1: if you're Lincoln Riley, now you've got longer plane flights.

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Speaker 1: Harbor's got longer flights out West. That's less time with

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Speaker 1: the family. You have to leave earlier. We're putting a load.

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Speaker 1: I know they make a lot of money, but we're

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Speaker 1: putting a load on college coaches. You and I have

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Speaker 1: always known a college basketball coach doesn't translate to the NBA,

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Speaker 1: but college football coach have translated for years to the NFL.

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Speaker 1: I don't know that. That's my kind of yeah, next

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Speaker 1: five years thing to keep your eye on.

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Speaker 2: It's interesting because I was just thinking like, well, wait

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Speaker 2: a sec. The college football playoff is expanding, so more

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Speaker 2: coaches are going to be able to say I made

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Speaker 2: the playoff. Hey, I'm in the playoff three three of

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Speaker 2: the last five years. Yeah, fire me. So it's almost

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Speaker 2: like coaches will have more security. And though some of

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Speaker 2: those guys, you nam, Brian Day's not going to be

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Speaker 2: missing the playoff when they expanded. He's not the best out.

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Speaker 2: Lincoln Riley's not going to be missing the playoff, and

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Speaker 2: so they'll have the security, but at the same time,

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Speaker 2: they'll now have a better resume of the NFL. Hey, man,

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Speaker 2: look what I'm doing. Every year. I've got one of

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Speaker 2: the best teams in the country and not just in

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Speaker 2: the rankings, but we're in the playoff, the big money

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Speaker 2: games at the end of the season. So yeah, I

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Speaker 2: think I would agree with you that they're probably going

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Speaker 2: to be worn down because remember you used to recruit

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Speaker 2: a kid, you sign him, he's yours unless he wants

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Speaker 2: to leave because he has that playing time. Now you

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Speaker 2: got to keep him. I don't even know the pit

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Speaker 2: coach's name. All he does is complain because he finds

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Speaker 2: these diamonds in the rough. They look awesome. And then

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Speaker 2: the big schools come and are poaching, like Treating Pitt

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Speaker 2: and some of these other schools, like they're like Triple

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Speaker 2: A farm clubs. Hey, hey, you get the guy out

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Speaker 2: of high school and juco pump him up for a year,

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Speaker 2: then we'll take him over here to our big boys school.

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Speaker 2: So like that's gonna get old quick for a lot

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Speaker 2: of those schools. Yeah, that's another wrinkle in college football

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Speaker 2: that's going to get good, and I will think so.

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Speaker 2: You know, we talked a little bit about the quarterback situation.

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Speaker 2: How good it is this year. If you look at

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Speaker 2: the ages of some of these guys colin because of

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Speaker 2: the COVID year, you've got guys sticking around much longer.

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Speaker 2: Almost all these prospects, even like Hendon Hooker, like twenty two,

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Speaker 2: twenty three, twenty four years old coming into the NFL.

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Speaker 2: Can he pikett I mean, he really only showed for

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Speaker 2: one year in college, that's it. And now here we

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Speaker 2: are year two in the NFL, and he's like, oh,

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Speaker 2: oh my gosh, this guy's gonna be twenty six in

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Speaker 2: a minute. And it's like, wow, he looks kind of

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Speaker 2: poised and mature. You're not getting these young Johnny Manzel

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Speaker 2: dudes anymore, which is kind of a benefit of COVID

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Speaker 2: quarterbacks sticking around a lot longer.

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Speaker 1: All right, what side or you on one NBA topic?

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Speaker 1: Are you on the Darryl Moury side, who sometimes can

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Speaker 1: be addicted to stars and personalities, or the James Harden

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Speaker 1: side where promises were probably made financially and Daryl Morey

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Speaker 1: now doesn't want anything to do with him. I think

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Speaker 1: Harden is trying to pressure Darryl Moury to make a

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Speaker 1: deal with the Clippers, and by calling him a liar,

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Speaker 1: it's personal. Darryl Moury will suck it up, lose the

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Speaker 1: deal to the Clippers, won't demand Terrence Man. I guess

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Speaker 1: that's one of the that's one of the guys that

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Speaker 1: Daryl Moray wants and the Clippers don't want to give up. Hey,

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Speaker 1: he's a rotational player.

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Speaker 2: Good player. What is your takeaway? Who's at fault here?

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Speaker 2: So I think I'm gonna side with James Harden Collin

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Speaker 2: and I understand his unhappiness. I have like a in

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Speaker 2: Sundi Eary take on Harden. I want to be careful

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Speaker 2: with what I say here. But you know, when you

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Speaker 2: call someone a liar in a public banner like that,

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Speaker 2: like you better have you better have to have to

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Speaker 2: back it up. And apparently Daryl Moury made a bunch

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Speaker 2: of promises and none of them were delivered. Now, I

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Speaker 2: don't know if that's a result of something that happened

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Speaker 2: during the season after the season, But Chris Paul, if

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Speaker 2: you remember a couple of years ago, Chris Paul came

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Speaker 2: out and said, Yo, Daryl Morey told me I was

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Speaker 2: gonna be with your organization like two days ago. He's like,

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Speaker 2: I'm not trading you, We're keeping and then two days

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Speaker 2: later I read on social media I got traded. So

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Speaker 2: this guy's a liar. So Chris Paul is saying that

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Speaker 2: Daryl Moray historically has not kept promises. Now James Harden

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Speaker 2: is saying the same thing. And do you know who Colin,

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Speaker 2: who's one of the most popular NBA players in China

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Speaker 2: James Harden. And you know how that is. So when

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Speaker 2: Yao Ming came to the NBA, they started to broad

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Speaker 2: they had been broadcasting games in China. Obviously that everybody

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Speaker 2: in China loves the Houston Rockets. Tracy mcgreat is a huge,

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Speaker 2: huge guy. Yeah, Ming's a huge guy. When they leave,

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Speaker 2: there's still a billion Rocket fans. James Harden arrives with

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Speaker 2: Dwight Howard. Oh, by the way, you know where Dwight

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Speaker 2: Howard played last year China. I wonder if James hard

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Speaker 2: is seeing the writing on the wall. Man, I don't

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Speaker 2: have a market. These guys want to pay me on

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Speaker 2: the cheap. I know I'm making my money because I

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Speaker 2: opted in, But where's my next deal going to be.

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Speaker 2: I'm not getting three years, sixty mili. I'm not getting

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Speaker 2: one of these Anthony Davis Steele's I'm not getting a

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Speaker 2: Lebron deal. And I start to wonder. We just saw

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Speaker 2: Leonel Messi turned down a billion dollars in Saudi Arabia. Okay,

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Speaker 2: Lionel Messi said I'll go to the MLS. I'll get

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Speaker 2: a chunk of the team and the Apple profits. What

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Speaker 2: if James Harden said, I'm sick of this. Darryl Morriy

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Speaker 2: Krap no teams want me. That's fine. I'll go where

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Speaker 2: I'm loved. I thought Houston loved me. They went after

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Speaker 2: Fred van Vliet, Fred van Feet that free agency opens up,

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Speaker 2: Let's get Fred van Vliet hard. It had been saying

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Speaker 2: for months that's where he would love to go. So

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Speaker 2: where does James Harden field the love? And the answer

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Speaker 2: is China. He's one of the most popular NBA players

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Speaker 2: in China. Steph Curry and the Warriors obviously been dominating,

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Speaker 2: so they're number one, but Harden's right up there. And

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Speaker 2: you start to see some of these older NBA players,

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Speaker 2: if they don't have the market that they want, do

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Speaker 2: they explore international options. James Harden could still do really

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Speaker 2: well in China. He averaged a twenty one to ten

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Speaker 2: this past season in the NBA. He's a good player.

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Speaker 2: But if he feels unhappy and he's getting lied to

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Speaker 2: and nobody wants to pay him, I'm just going to

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Speaker 2: go where they love me. Colin and I think you

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Speaker 2: would agree. Sometimes you got to feel the love. Man.

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Speaker 1: It's an interesting it really is an interesting take. Saudi

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Speaker 1: Arabia is now a real player. Theymar, Yeah, I mean so,

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Speaker 1: I don't think that's the craziest thing I've heard today.

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Speaker 1: I think that's an interesting take.

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Speaker 2: And you know who would be right behind him the

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Speaker 2: guy who commented on social media about Adrian Wojanowski, and

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Speaker 2: that's Kyrie Irving. We know Kyrie Irving is as as

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Speaker 2: out there as anybody in the NBA. And you look

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Speaker 2: at Sneaker deal's gone awry and where he would go

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Speaker 2: to middle finger the NBA and get paid and feel

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Speaker 2: the love. Kyrie Irving following James Harden would not shock

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Speaker 2: me in the least. Now he's a little younger than Harden,

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Speaker 2: but I think he only sounded like a two year

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Speaker 2: deal with Dallas.

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Speaker 1: He's persona on Grada for most NBA gms.

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Speaker 2: There you go, I mean, you don't want to deal

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Speaker 2: with these guys and you're not going to pay him

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Speaker 2: the thirty million? Well where can you go get the

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Speaker 2: money and hoop where everybody loves you. You think the media

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Speaker 2: is going to crush James Harden in China, No way,

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Speaker 2: They're not going.

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Speaker 1: To do that.

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Speaker 2: So it is just keep it in mind a year,

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Speaker 2: eighteen months if you start hearing James Harden China rumors.

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Speaker 1: Jason McIntyre, Buddy, it was great. We're going to be

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Speaker 1: doing this every week, getting some picks on Thursday. Love

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Speaker 1: having you back from VAK. I know how much your

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Speaker 1: family means to you, and I appreciate it.

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Speaker 2: Thanks Pal.

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Speaker 1: The volume