WEBVTT - Episode 3: Fighting Technocracy

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<v Speaker 1>Up next, Luna Talks with Anna Paulina. Luna part of

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<v Speaker 1>the gang which big tech continues to meddle in our elections,

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<v Speaker 1>putting their thumbs on the scale to affect who wins

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<v Speaker 1>and who loses. Don't kid yourselves. This is a threat

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<v Speaker 1>to our democracy. And trust me, I know from personal experience.

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<v Speaker 1>That's exactly why I'm taking Twitter to court. This is

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<v Speaker 1>Luna talks with Anna Paulina. This week, I wanted to

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<v Speaker 1>cover something really special, so as we know, earlier in

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<v Speaker 1>the week, I had actually announced that I was going

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<v Speaker 1>after Twitter, and a lot of people, especially when I

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<v Speaker 1>talk about this case, they're like, well, why is social

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<v Speaker 1>media is so important? Why is that blue check mark

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<v Speaker 1>so important? And I say, well, we're fighting technocracy, So

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<v Speaker 1>what is big tech? I think a lot of people,

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<v Speaker 1>especially the older generation, thinks big tech is just Google YouTube,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, our general search engine and browsers. But it's

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<v Speaker 1>way more than that. It's a collaboration. In addition to

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<v Speaker 1>social media platforms, whether to your Facebook, your Twitter, your Instagram.

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<v Speaker 1>Pretty much how everybody in this country, actually over half

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<v Speaker 1>of the US population is connected, is on some form

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<v Speaker 1>of social media. And we when we look into the

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<v Speaker 1>ways previous generations used to communicate. Specifically, I think previous

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<v Speaker 1>to that of the eighties, it was a large focus

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<v Speaker 1>on mail, print and television. Right, So you had your

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<v Speaker 1>Federal Communications Guidelines and your Federal Elections Commission that would

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<v Speaker 1>actually work together to ensure that candidates in particular were

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<v Speaker 1>given the same amount of access to these different platforms,

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<v Speaker 1>especially because, as we know, candidates use those platforms in

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<v Speaker 1>order to communicate with the people that they are hoping

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<v Speaker 1>will vote for them. Right. So, currently upwards of sev

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<v Speaker 1>of the U S population is on some form of

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<v Speaker 1>social media, according to Pew Research, And that's a huge

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<v Speaker 1>deal for someone like myself especially. And I can tell

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<v Speaker 1>you with a lot of my friends, you know, you

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<v Speaker 1>see and I'm sure you probably like look at with

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<v Speaker 1>your kids as well. They'll be constantly on their phones

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<v Speaker 1>and you wonder, okay, well why are you always on

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<v Speaker 1>your phone? Well, it's basically like us pulling out a

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<v Speaker 1>newspaper and reading it, right, Like we're absorbing health tips,

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<v Speaker 1>were absorbing fitness tips, were absorbing politics. And that's especially

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<v Speaker 1>why my case is increasingly becoming more and more important

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<v Speaker 1>to the younger generation. So how does gen D and

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<v Speaker 1>millennials communicate, and these stats are something that I really

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<v Speaker 1>think everyone should really hone in on and listen to,

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<v Speaker 1>because as the voters get older, as this younger generation

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<v Speaker 1>fills the shoes of our parents and our grandparents, were

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<v Speaker 1>realizing that the old way of communicating is going away altogether.

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<v Speaker 1>And I think it's gonna be my estimate that in

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<v Speaker 1>the next twenty years we're probably not going to even

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<v Speaker 1>really have TVs in our homes anymore, just because it's

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<v Speaker 1>going to this market of duchess advertisement, but of entertainment

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<v Speaker 1>as well. In fact, actually they're now starting to bring

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<v Speaker 1>streaming services into your home. Student you have to go

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<v Speaker 1>to the movie theaters anymore. So according to digital usage,

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<v Speaker 1>the highest percentage at for of users on Twitter is

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<v Speaker 1>actually people that are eighteen to twenty nine years old,

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<v Speaker 1>and that's from p Research. And then in a separate

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<v Speaker 1>study that was found it was actually done on four

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<v Speaker 1>thousand people. They actually found that nearly three quarters about

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<v Speaker 1>seventy three of Gen Z adults ages eighteen to twenty

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<v Speaker 1>three actively used Instagram, followed by snapchat at and YouTube six.

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<v Speaker 1>Facebook does, however, remain the most used platforms for millennials

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<v Speaker 1>at Gen X at sixty eight percent, and then your

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<v Speaker 1>baby boomer generation at sixty one percent. So what is

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<v Speaker 1>this saying. This is just furthering the argument that we

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<v Speaker 1>have to essentially fight for our voices on this platform.

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<v Speaker 1>And we'll get into it in a second what's been

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<v Speaker 1>uncovered by organizations like Project Very Toss and what they're discovering.

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<v Speaker 1>But I really want you guys to understand that the

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<v Speaker 1>best way of communication for one for the younger generation

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<v Speaker 1>is peer to peer communication. Right. So, a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>our friends, like in my little Friends Circle, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>you have DC Dreino, you have Broke Back Patriot, you

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<v Speaker 1>have the typical liberal. These are all handles that they

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<v Speaker 1>used to identify their social media accounts. But we're not

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<v Speaker 1>just talking about, you know, a couple of hundred people

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<v Speaker 1>following them, or even a couple of hundred thousand people

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<v Speaker 1>following We're talking about millions of people, right, So to

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<v Speaker 1>give it some perspective, if one of these accounts, let's

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<v Speaker 1>say my friend Rogan posts on his account at seven

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<v Speaker 1>pm on a Friday, because of the amount of people

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<v Speaker 1>that actually follow him on that platform, he could essentially,

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<v Speaker 1>if he has a viral posting, be competing with the

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<v Speaker 1>ratings that you would have on Fox Business or Fox

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<v Speaker 1>News Daytime. And mind you, this is on an app

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<v Speaker 1>Instagram on someone's phone, which is essentially free media. So

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<v Speaker 1>why would it be important to want to ensure that

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<v Speaker 1>this is being regulated correctly. Well, it's because if it's not,

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<v Speaker 1>what's happening is you have an entire demographic of younger

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<v Speaker 1>voters that are getting skewed data, skewed information, and only

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<v Speaker 1>one side of the argument because of a act that

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<v Speaker 1>these accounts and even accounts like mine, are being increasingly

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<v Speaker 1>suppressed by these big tech companies. So what will happen

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<v Speaker 1>is on a lot of these platforms, whether it's Facebook, Twitter,

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<v Speaker 1>or Instagram, you have this concept of a verified account.

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<v Speaker 1>But why is being verified so important? It's way more

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<v Speaker 1>than just that blue check And it actually is really

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<v Speaker 1>frustrating for someone like myself because when I actually initially

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<v Speaker 1>started talking about this, and I think when other candidates

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<v Speaker 1>around the country started talking about this, they were in

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<v Speaker 1>the election cycle, a lot of reporters would make this

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<v Speaker 1>condescending term, Oh, they're threatening suit because of a blue

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<v Speaker 1>check mark. It's far much more than that. When you

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<v Speaker 1>are verified on any one of these accounts. Not only

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<v Speaker 1>does it show other people that that's your actual accounts,

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<v Speaker 1>so you actually are able to prevent fraudulent impersonation accounts

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<v Speaker 1>which have happened to people like myself. You can also

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<v Speaker 1>ensure that those people are aware that that is the

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<v Speaker 1>official platform and statement making communication for these candidates that

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<v Speaker 1>are competing for elected office. So you could think of

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<v Speaker 1>social media essentially as this digital town square. Right. We

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<v Speaker 1>have governments around the world that are specifically on Twitter

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<v Speaker 1>to communicate with their people, whether it's literally Russia, China, Iran, Canada,

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<v Speaker 1>South America. And then you have of course our US

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<v Speaker 1>government and then officials of the US government that are

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<v Speaker 1>elected or appointed, but they all use these platforms, especially Twitter.

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<v Speaker 1>I'd have to say that Twitter is probably the most

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<v Speaker 1>political of all of the different social media spaces that

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<v Speaker 1>are actually used by dot gov accounts to communicate and

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<v Speaker 1>put out information to the American people as to what's

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<v Speaker 1>happening in our country. And then you also have social

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<v Speaker 1>movements that will use these social media platforms. So think

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<v Speaker 1>about all that chaos that happens recently with the BLM movements.

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<v Speaker 1>BLM actually has a verified page on Twitter, and they

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<v Speaker 1>people will use Facebook and Twitter and Instagram to communicate,

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<v Speaker 1>to organize, to share information, and to actually I think

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<v Speaker 1>promote these grassroots movements. Whether or not I agree with them,

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<v Speaker 1>The point is is that these platforms are absolutely used

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<v Speaker 1>to organize and essentially execute our freedom of demonstration, freedom

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<v Speaker 1>of speech, all of that right. I want you to

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<v Speaker 1>just envision this for a second. So imagine being younger

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<v Speaker 1>and having your TV, your radio, your books, and your

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<v Speaker 1>newspapers either being censored or burned. And I know that

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<v Speaker 1>people are saying, I can't believe maybe she just compared

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<v Speaker 1>social media censorship to book burning, But I really want

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<v Speaker 1>you guys to understand that for someone in the younger generation,

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<v Speaker 1>when you are being closed off from access and not

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<v Speaker 1>able to have even a voice, or to post your opinion,

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<v Speaker 1>or even to access information because other people you know

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<v Speaker 1>in Silicon Valley and California are sitting on the other

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<v Speaker 1>end of a computer and saying that we don't think

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<v Speaker 1>that they have the right to read this, that is

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<v Speaker 1>essentially modern day book burning. Social media censorship is modern

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<v Speaker 1>a book burning. How would that makes you feel? Obviously

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<v Speaker 1>makes you feel, I think sometimes desperate, because how do

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<v Speaker 1>you get your voice out there? How are you heard?

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<v Speaker 1>How can you actually make an impact when you don't

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<v Speaker 1>even have the right to use your voice? And a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of people say, oh, well, you know you don't.

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<v Speaker 1>You're not totally censored. It's just Facebook, or it's just Twitter,

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<v Speaker 1>or it's just Instagram. But that's not the point. You

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<v Speaker 1>have this happening to an entire generation of people, especially

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<v Speaker 1>my generation, right those millennials. I remember when we had

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<v Speaker 1>those like old Nokia brick phones that probably radiated way

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<v Speaker 1>too much for our brains, but I remember those. And

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<v Speaker 1>then all of a sudden, I remember when this thing

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<v Speaker 1>called my Space came out. A lot of people are like,

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<v Speaker 1>what's my space if you're a gen Z person? But

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<v Speaker 1>my Space was actually before Facebook, and that's what I

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<v Speaker 1>think really kicked off this social media movement on the Internet.

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<v Speaker 1>And then you have your younger children, your grandchildren that

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<v Speaker 1>are almost all on social media, they all have those iPads.

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<v Speaker 1>Those kids are one hun impacted by what's happening in

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<v Speaker 1>our country today politically, especially to conservatives and Republicans. But

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<v Speaker 1>this is and I want to make this a very

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<v Speaker 1>clear point, This is not just an issue that we

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<v Speaker 1>as conservatives or we are Republicans, are facing. This is

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<v Speaker 1>something that's going to impact everyone, whether you're a Democrat,

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<v Speaker 1>whether you're a Republican, whether you're independent, whether you are

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<v Speaker 1>a member of the Green Party, and a whole another country.

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<v Speaker 1>The point is is that this type of power and

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<v Speaker 1>control by these technocracies has never existed to the magnitude

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<v Speaker 1>that it has. And I think that was interesting that

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<v Speaker 1>Project Very Toss actually hadn't covered a software engineer at

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<v Speaker 1>one of these platforms. I think it was on Facebook,

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<v Speaker 1>and that this man had said, no king in the

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<v Speaker 1>history of our world has ever had the power that

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<v Speaker 1>Facebook has had in regards to controlling messaging and essentially

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<v Speaker 1>being able to influence not just the United States, but

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<v Speaker 1>we're talking about influencing global ideologies, which is very dangerous

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<v Speaker 1>because that is total control. And if we here in

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<v Speaker 1>the United States can't regulate it, let's just say that

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<v Speaker 1>in other parts of the world, where they might not

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<v Speaker 1>even have some of the liberties that we have and

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<v Speaker 1>that you have, Let's say, you know, these companies are

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<v Speaker 1>essentially working with maybe people that don't necessarily agree with

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<v Speaker 1>a constitutional republic. What about communists? I mean, you have

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<v Speaker 1>all these I think companies like Google basically bowing down

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<v Speaker 1>to China, and China has social network systems actually monitor

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<v Speaker 1>and score people based on their behavior that's considered acceptable,

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<v Speaker 1>which to me, that social credit system is actually super scary.

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<v Speaker 1>But why is it that I'm so passionate about this, right?

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, like, I don't think people just like wake

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<v Speaker 1>up and say, oh, I'm going to take on Twitter,

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<v Speaker 1>because obviously it's not cheap, and obviously it's a huge stress, right,

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<v Speaker 1>especially when you feel like nationally, I think a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of people have realized, well, you know, what is the

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<v Speaker 1>Republican already really done about this? You know they've talked

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<v Speaker 1>about it, but have they really done anything? What have

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<v Speaker 1>our legislature has done in order to protect my voice

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<v Speaker 1>as an American voter? Right? So I remember when this

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<v Speaker 1>first started about I'd say three years ago, when I

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<v Speaker 1>first really started noticing it. I actually remember being in

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<v Speaker 1>the car and I think I was listening to NPR

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<v Speaker 1>at the time, and I was driving my little Jetta

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<v Speaker 1>and I pulled up to gas station. I remember they

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<v Speaker 1>were talking about one I guess he was like kind

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<v Speaker 1>of a radical media personality, but he had been kicked

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<v Speaker 1>off and banned on all these different platforms and I

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<v Speaker 1>remember hearing that and I was like, Wow, that's like

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<v Speaker 1>really kind of scary that someone would just get socially

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<v Speaker 1>canceled like that. But I didn't really think too much

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<v Speaker 1>of it, because I think, like most people, you don't

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<v Speaker 1>realize that if it just happens to one person at first,

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<v Speaker 1>it's it's going to happen to you as well. But

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<v Speaker 1>I remember feeling very uncomfortable about it, and I think

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<v Speaker 1>that myself at the time, I wasn't that political, but

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<v Speaker 1>people that were political were very very quiet about that,

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<v Speaker 1>and I think it was because it didn't directly impact

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<v Speaker 1>them yet. And then I remember as I progressed kind

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<v Speaker 1>of in my political evolution especially, and I know in

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<v Speaker 1>previous episodes, you guys have probably heard about what had

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<v Speaker 1>happened early on in my life with you know, growing

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<v Speaker 1>up essentially around people that were using guns to do

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<v Speaker 1>really bad things. So posting on social media with firearms.

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<v Speaker 1>I remember having my postings actually on Instagram labeled as

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<v Speaker 1>a danger to the community. People were saying that that

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<v Speaker 1>type of posting, whether or not I was encouraging women

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<v Speaker 1>to use farms, was actually not safe. And so what

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<v Speaker 1>I was realizing is there are shadow banning postings, and

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<v Speaker 1>you ask, well, what is shadow batting? And that's actually

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<v Speaker 1>when they prevent you from being able to see certain information.

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<v Speaker 1>So you might have let's say thirty thousand people that

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<v Speaker 1>following your social media account, but they'll actually change the

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<v Speaker 1>algorithms on the back end, so maybe only five thousand

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<v Speaker 1>people or two thousand people, or I've even seen cases

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<v Speaker 1>of people having over a million followers and they're only

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<v Speaker 1>getting a couple of hundred views per posting. So we're

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<v Speaker 1>talking about less than one percent of your actual total

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<v Speaker 1>following being able to see what you're posting. And how

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<v Speaker 1>do we know that that's happening, Well, you can see

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<v Speaker 1>it based on your engagement. But also too, we've actually

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<v Speaker 1>had recorded evidence come out again from those people that

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<v Speaker 1>really infiltrated these tech companies, whether it was Facebook, Twitter,

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<v Speaker 1>Instagram via Project very toss and you can actually see

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<v Speaker 1>all those videos online. But I realized it was a

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<v Speaker 1>huge problem after the El Paso shooting a couple of

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<v Speaker 1>years ago, and so at the time, I was actually

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<v Speaker 1>working with a Hispanic outreach organization and I was actually

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<v Speaker 1>down in El Paso within twenty four hours of that shooting,

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<v Speaker 1>and I remember I posted to Twitter. I said, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>a Hispanic American, I'm an n r A. Remember I'm

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<v Speaker 1>a veteran, and I will not bend the knee to

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<v Speaker 1>the socialist agenda to ban firearms. I took an oath

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<v Speaker 1>to defend the people of this nation as well as

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<v Speaker 1>the constitution. Stop making El Paso political. Why did I

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<v Speaker 1>say that, It's because it was the truth. I was

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<v Speaker 1>down there and so many people. I saw all these media.

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<v Speaker 1>It was like a media circus. You had all these

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<v Speaker 1>people from news reporters and they were only interviewing people

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<v Speaker 1>that had anti Trump apparel on right, Like you would

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<v Speaker 1>say that these uh, they looked like the red MAGA hats,

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<v Speaker 1>but they would only say make America Love again, implying

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<v Speaker 1>that Trump's Maga agenda was a hate filled agenda. But

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<v Speaker 1>it was all these hardcore jabs at at the time

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<v Speaker 1>President Trump when an actuality. We're talking about a psychopath

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<v Speaker 1>that shot up a Walmart, and then they were taking

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<v Speaker 1>that entire thing and trying to say, oh, it was

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<v Speaker 1>political targeting because of the anti immigrant rhetoric coming out

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<v Speaker 1>of the presidency and out of the GOP, which was

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<v Speaker 1>obviously completely false. But the point is is that they

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<v Speaker 1>were not even vetting these people claiming to be family

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<v Speaker 1>members that were interviewing. I mean, obviously, if your family

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<v Speaker 1>member had just died, don't you think you'd probably be

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<v Speaker 1>at home morning, not out trying to get a TV interview.

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<v Speaker 1>I know for sure as heck I wouldn't. But the

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<v Speaker 1>point is is that Twitter after I made that posting

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<v Speaker 1>it was a viral tweet. In fact, I think about

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<v Speaker 1>almost a hundred thus and people had engaged with it.

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<v Speaker 1>They reposted all of that, and Twitter kicked me off

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<v Speaker 1>that day. They locked me up for twelve hours, saying

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<v Speaker 1>that my tweet, which is what I just read to

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<v Speaker 1>you guys, was actually a danger to the community. So

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<v Speaker 1>that was what I realized, all right, this is a

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<v Speaker 1>huge issue. Obviously, I've said nothing that's been racist xenophobic.

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<v Speaker 1>I haven't violated their terms and conditions. I literally put

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<v Speaker 1>out there that I'm fighting for the Constitution and my

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<v Speaker 1>constitutional rights, and essentially I'm getting kicked off Twitter because

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<v Speaker 1>of it, which was just completely absurd to me. But

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<v Speaker 1>then came the time when I really accepted the fact

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<v Speaker 1>that if we did not do something about this soon,

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<v Speaker 1>that I felt that essentially I was going to be permanently,

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<v Speaker 1>and not just myself, but I think a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>our country was going to be permanently impacted by this.

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<v Speaker 1>And that was my campaign story. And before I get

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<v Speaker 1>into that, I just want to specify that everything that's

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<v Speaker 1>happening now, especially on this legislation that we're hoping to change,

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<v Speaker 1>is going to be something that isn't just going to

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<v Speaker 1>be again for people like myself that are conservative leaning,

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<v Speaker 1>but it's going to be for everyone and it will

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<v Speaker 1>impact the entire country from here on out because there

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<v Speaker 1>is nothing currently on the books that covers down on

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<v Speaker 1>legislation for digital media only covers print, radio, and television.

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<v Speaker 1>So then came the time when I realized we were

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<v Speaker 1>in deep trouble. And that is the campaign story, and

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<v Speaker 1>we'll get back to that right after the short break.

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<v Speaker 1>So campaign story is something that I wish, honestly I

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<v Speaker 1>couldn't speak on from a place of of experience, but unfortunately,

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<v Speaker 1>because of what I went through, I just I really

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<v Speaker 1>need to share this story with you guys. So, as

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<v Speaker 1>we know, Twitter put out these press release talking about

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<v Speaker 1>how official candidates and elections would be verified. The reason

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<v Speaker 1>why you want to do that, especially for campaigns and

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<v Speaker 1>something that I actually experienced was that I had people

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<v Speaker 1>that were actually, I think not even American citizens. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>pretty sure these people, according to what I was hearing

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<v Speaker 1>from some of my voters, were actually people that were

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<v Speaker 1>scamming people from places like Africa and South America, and

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<v Speaker 1>they were actually making fake accounts of my official congressional

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<v Speaker 1>accounts saying that they were me. And they were also

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<v Speaker 1>requesting that people donate to the campaign in Google play

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<v Speaker 1>cards and or via wiring money by PayPal, which is

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<v Speaker 1>one not how you donate to campaigns. You only ever

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<v Speaker 1>go to the official campaign website, and then you do

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<v Speaker 1>it through the official when red link, which is if

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<v Speaker 1>you do donate to candidates. You know what that is,

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<v Speaker 1>but it's a fundraising platform for the GOP. So obviously

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<v Speaker 1>this could have won gotten me in trouble, right, But

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<v Speaker 1>then also too, you have people that are genuinely feeling

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<v Speaker 1>like they're wanting to help and give in campaigns and races,

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<v Speaker 1>and they're essentially getting scammed because people are engaging and

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<v Speaker 1>interacting with these not verified accounts. So that's the first

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<v Speaker 1>thing you have to ensure that your accounts verified. But

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<v Speaker 1>also too, in my case, I had people that I

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<v Speaker 1>was running against in my republic In primary and these people,

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<v Speaker 1>mind you, at the time, I had, I think closed

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<v Speaker 1>around three hundred thousand people that followed me on my Twitter.

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<v Speaker 1>But a majority of my opponents, who had no media,

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<v Speaker 1>had never done directing series, none of the level of

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<v Speaker 1>verification that would be needed. They were getting verified on

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<v Speaker 1>their accounts, having you know, ten followers after one day

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<v Speaker 1>of applying for verification. But Twitter for a very long

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<v Speaker 1>time was holding off on my verification. So I was

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<v Speaker 1>literally getting messages from people about being scammed. I was

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<v Speaker 1>getting people messages is a sear official account? Is this

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<v Speaker 1>a fake account? I mean, it was actually really causing

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<v Speaker 1>issues for the campaign on the back end. And yet

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<v Speaker 1>they went through and through my entire primary election, which

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<v Speaker 1>is where I competed with other Republicans for the vote

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<v Speaker 1>to become the primary nominee to run against the Democrat,

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<v Speaker 1>they verified everyone else, which was a five way primary. Right,

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<v Speaker 1>I was running against five other people, and yet I

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<v Speaker 1>was the one that's still received no verification. And then

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<v Speaker 1>after I won the primary, I wrote Twitter again. Members

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<v Speaker 1>of my team wrote Twitter. In fact, I had other

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<v Speaker 1>people that were politically influential as well. Right, Twitter saying, hey,

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<v Speaker 1>is there a reason that you're not verifying this congressional candidate,

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<v Speaker 1>she's official nominee. We wrote countless emails to the Twitter

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<v Speaker 1>dot gov website and still no verification. They said that

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<v Speaker 1>they would they would send us back to ballot PDIA.

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<v Speaker 1>So you have to make sure that you're complying to

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<v Speaker 1>with all the standards, which I did. I had everything

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<v Speaker 1>that was needed according to their verification process, but they

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<v Speaker 1>still wouldn't do it. And then we found out and

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<v Speaker 1>this is a true that that blue check mark, especially

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<v Speaker 1>on Twitter's engagement side of the house, actually not only

0:19:42.480 --> 0:19:47.640
<v Speaker 1>increases your engagement, but it increases your visibility. And there

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<v Speaker 1>is an algorithm that actually changes on the back end

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<v Speaker 1>right that actually helps people engage with you. So think

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<v Speaker 1>about it like this. If I were to put it

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<v Speaker 1>in regards to let's say a newspaper article, you have

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<v Speaker 1>the ability to have your articles about your campaign and

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<v Speaker 1>your local town paper either run on the front page

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<v Speaker 1>or run in the back page in a square that's

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<v Speaker 1>maybe half an inch versus a front page story. When

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<v Speaker 1>you have that blue check it's essentially putting your campaign

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<v Speaker 1>on that front page story. And if they're giving it

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<v Speaker 1>to one person. According to campaign law, they have to

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<v Speaker 1>give it to everyone else. Not only does it show

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<v Speaker 1>voters your the official campaign account, but it also shows

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<v Speaker 1>people that there is another race happening, right Like a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of people, especially for those that might not watch

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<v Speaker 1>Fox News or MSNBC or CNN, for those younger people

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<v Speaker 1>that are just on social media, if they're not being

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<v Speaker 1>presented with a different side, a different perspective, a different

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<v Speaker 1>candidate and option to vote for, then they're not even

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<v Speaker 1>going to realize that that's actually a race happening. And

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't just find that this was happening to myself.

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<v Speaker 1>In fact, I found out later on that this was

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<v Speaker 1>actually happening to a few candidates in the Tampa Bay area,

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<v Speaker 1>which strategically, especially for the election cycle, is a very

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<v Speaker 1>very strategic location. That whole I four Corridor, which is

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<v Speaker 1>a massive highway that runs up through the center of Florida,

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<v Speaker 1>is actually something that every single presidential candidate I think,

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<v Speaker 1>in the history of the United States has needed to

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<v Speaker 1>campaign on and definitely get support from in order to

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<v Speaker 1>go to the White House. In fact, it's called the

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<v Speaker 1>pathway to the White House. But I've never been one

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<v Speaker 1>to shut up in color. Right, So what did I

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<v Speaker 1>do about all of this? Well, I'll tell you about

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<v Speaker 1>that right after we get back after the short break.

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<v Speaker 1>So I filed an FEC complaint and people are like, Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>this is kind of boring on a what's the FEC

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<v Speaker 1>acronyms blah blah blah. Okay. The FEC is the Federal

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<v Speaker 1>Elections Commission And what do they do. Well, they established

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<v Speaker 1>in nineteen seventy four and they actually oversee elections. But

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<v Speaker 1>their job, in particular it includes jurisdiction in civil enforcement matter,

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<v Speaker 1>is authority to write regulations and the responsibility for monitoring

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<v Speaker 1>compliance and making sure candidates are adhering, but also too

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<v Speaker 1>that the candidates are being provided a fair platform. So

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<v Speaker 1>they're kind of like who you go to when someone's

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<v Speaker 1>not being fair. You go to the FEC and you

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<v Speaker 1>hope that they do their job. Well, I file this

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<v Speaker 1>complaint and I heard nothing for six months. So me

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<v Speaker 1>and my team and you know, our attorneys, we went

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<v Speaker 1>back to the drawing board and we're thinking about this

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<v Speaker 1>and we're brainstorming. And by this time I do it

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<v Speaker 1>was already after the fact that President Trump had been

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<v Speaker 1>removed off of Twitter, off of Facebook. Think about that

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<v Speaker 1>the leader of the free world, arguably one of the

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<v Speaker 1>most powerful people in the world, the presidents of the

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<v Speaker 1>United States, had been d platforms. He had been silenced.

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<v Speaker 1>And we actually just found out a few days ago

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<v Speaker 1>that Facebook agreed that they had the right to keep

0:22:50.800 --> 0:22:55.320
<v Speaker 1>President Trump off of this social media platform. But think

0:22:55.359 --> 0:22:59.840
<v Speaker 1>about that, more power than the duly elected president of

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<v Speaker 1>the United States, and they were intern silencing him. So

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<v Speaker 1>why did I see the FEC Well, it's because I

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<v Speaker 1>wanted them to take action on my complaint that I

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<v Speaker 1>made last year in previous to my election cycle, stating

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<v Speaker 1>that Twitter's inequitable treatment of me as a federal candidate

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<v Speaker 1>during the election cycle constitutes illegal corporate in kind contributions

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<v Speaker 1>to my then Democrat opponent. What is it in kind contribution?

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<v Speaker 1>It's something that you have to record if you're receiving

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<v Speaker 1>something of value to your campaign, and with a verified profile,

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<v Speaker 1>that is something of monetary value. In fact, Jack Dorsey,

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<v Speaker 1>the CEO of Twitter, recently sold his first tweet for

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<v Speaker 1>two point nine million dollars. Okay, that is the value

0:23:43.200 --> 0:23:47.560
<v Speaker 1>of having a verified social media account. That is digital currency.

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<v Speaker 1>Think of it like advertising. That is exactly what it is.

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<v Speaker 1>But what implications does this have. It's to change the law.

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<v Speaker 1>It's not just for conservatives and Republicans, it's for everyone.

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<v Speaker 1>Our laws straight up are currently out of date. They

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<v Speaker 1>only cover down on print, radio, and television, but there's

0:24:04.720 --> 0:24:08.280
<v Speaker 1>nothing for that digital media or even social media that

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<v Speaker 1>has evolved in the last twenty years essentially, and then

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<v Speaker 1>never in the history of our world has someone had

0:24:14.520 --> 0:24:18.000
<v Speaker 1>that type of power. And so that term technocracy something

0:24:18.040 --> 0:24:21.119
<v Speaker 1>that we are all facing. These tech giants working with

0:24:21.200 --> 0:24:26.080
<v Speaker 1>corporations essentially to suppress the American people, our voice, our wants.

0:24:26.080 --> 0:24:29.600
<v Speaker 1>And then you have people actually elected in Congress and

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<v Speaker 1>in Senate that are on the payout through this corporate

0:24:32.480 --> 0:24:35.920
<v Speaker 1>pack money that is not even allowing them to represent

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<v Speaker 1>their people of their district because they're protecting they're being

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<v Speaker 1>given money for their actual campaigns by these lobbyists that

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<v Speaker 1>want these legislators to be soft on tech policy, to

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<v Speaker 1>be soft on that Section two thirty. And I will

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<v Speaker 1>make a very specific distinction here. My case against the FEC,

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<v Speaker 1>my case against Twitter, has nothing to do with free

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<v Speaker 1>speech because, unfortunately, because of the fact that these tech

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<v Speaker 1>and these are protected under Section to thirty, which will

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<v Speaker 1>be a completely different podcast episode. All of those lawsuits

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<v Speaker 1>based on the First Amendment violations that these tech companies

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<v Speaker 1>are continuously in, these social media companies are continuously doing

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<v Speaker 1>to the American people all of those things, they're not

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<v Speaker 1>even good lawsuits because they won't win in court because

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<v Speaker 1>of that section to thirty. So ours is completely separate.

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<v Speaker 1>We are talking specifically about the corporation of Twitter making

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<v Speaker 1>illegal campaign donations that's not recorded, and essentially that is

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<v Speaker 1>basically a campaign finance violation. So I would compare it

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<v Speaker 1>if people know about al Capone. You know, al Capone

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<v Speaker 1>was this mobster. He was arguably probably one of the

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<v Speaker 1>most famous mobsters, and we know that he was racketeering

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<v Speaker 1>and all of this crazy stuff. He was killing people,

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<v Speaker 1>who's a murder. But they didn't get him on any

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<v Speaker 1>of that. They got him on tax evasion. And that's

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<v Speaker 1>what I think that this case is is it is

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<v Speaker 1>going to be essentially our version of taking down al

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<v Speaker 1>Capone for tax evasion. And I mean taking down not

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<v Speaker 1>in a physical sense, but a metaphorical sense. Have to

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<v Speaker 1>specify just because, but to protect the sanctity of these

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<v Speaker 1>elections and to ensure that this isn't happening to Freacher generations.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, we have to do this, and I never

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<v Speaker 1>I never intended on being one of the first people

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<v Speaker 1>to do that. But it looks like I'm leading the charge,

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<v Speaker 1>and I'm leading the charge all the way to the

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<v Speaker 1>Supreme Court. And I will say that this is the

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<v Speaker 1>only case in the country, guys, This is the only

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<v Speaker 1>case in the country that has the ability to impact

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<v Speaker 1>and change our legislation, not just for me, but for

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<v Speaker 1>future generations of this incredible country, to ensure that our

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<v Speaker 1>election processes are protected, that our voices are heard, and

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<v Speaker 1>that people at least have the right to hear a

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<v Speaker 1>different perspective and have a different choice. Before we go,

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<v Speaker 1>I want to thank you guys so much for listening.

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