1 00:00:01,200 --> 00:00:05,640 Speaker 1: So day one wasn't great for Judge Jackson. Day two 2 00:00:07,120 --> 00:00:10,480 Speaker 1: got worse. Day three, Oh my gosh, what am I 3 00:00:10,560 --> 00:00:15,160 Speaker 1: talking about? I'm talking about We now know the Judge 4 00:00:15,240 --> 00:00:19,319 Speaker 1: Jackson has now admitted to doing pro bono work for 5 00:00:19,720 --> 00:00:24,200 Speaker 1: terrorists in Guantanamo Bay. You've done pro bono work for 6 00:00:24,640 --> 00:00:28,000 Speaker 1: on behalf of detainees at guantanamobey, have you ever done 7 00:00:28,040 --> 00:00:33,599 Speaker 1: pro bono work for the victims of terrorism? Senator, I'm 8 00:00:33,640 --> 00:00:40,240 Speaker 1: not aware of any such cases in my law firm. 9 00:00:40,280 --> 00:00:44,840 Speaker 1: I was in a group of lawyers that was often 10 00:00:44,840 --> 00:00:50,120 Speaker 1: approached to ask would you file a brief for some group? 11 00:00:50,120 --> 00:00:53,880 Speaker 1: And I'm not aware that any victims of terrorism asked 12 00:00:53,880 --> 00:00:56,760 Speaker 1: our firm to participate. Now, a quick reminder, if you're 13 00:00:56,760 --> 00:00:59,040 Speaker 1: listening to this podcast, please make sure you hit the 14 00:00:59,200 --> 00:01:03,800 Speaker 1: subscriber auto download button and tell your friends about this podcast, 15 00:01:03,880 --> 00:01:05,760 Speaker 1: share this on social media, and if you would write 16 00:01:05,800 --> 00:01:08,880 Speaker 1: us a five star review to help us, as Democrats 17 00:01:08,920 --> 00:01:12,360 Speaker 1: have been attacking our podcasts recently with bad reviews. Now 18 00:01:13,040 --> 00:01:16,000 Speaker 1: joining me to talk about this. US Senator from Tennessee 19 00:01:16,000 --> 00:01:20,319 Speaker 1: Bill Haggardy Sentator, this is maybe for me, the most 20 00:01:20,319 --> 00:01:23,360 Speaker 1: shocking moment of all is the fact that we have 21 00:01:23,560 --> 00:01:28,200 Speaker 1: a Supreme Court nominee they did pro bono work for 22 00:01:28,440 --> 00:01:33,000 Speaker 1: terrorists being detained at Guantanamo Bay. When you heard that, 23 00:01:33,319 --> 00:01:37,480 Speaker 1: what did you think? Then? I thought it was consistent 24 00:01:37,520 --> 00:01:42,200 Speaker 1: with this entire administration's posture to be soft on crime. 25 00:01:42,319 --> 00:01:44,880 Speaker 1: I mean, they're going to be much softer on criminals 26 00:01:44,880 --> 00:01:48,120 Speaker 1: than they are on victims. As Senator Cotton just extracted, 27 00:01:48,480 --> 00:01:51,280 Speaker 1: no work for victims, no concern for victims. For their 28 00:01:51,320 --> 00:01:53,760 Speaker 1: concern is to go easy on crime. And what we've 29 00:01:53,760 --> 00:01:56,400 Speaker 1: seen around the United States, particularly in Democrat run cities, 30 00:01:57,400 --> 00:01:59,960 Speaker 1: is just a massive increase in crime here in America. 31 00:02:00,440 --> 00:02:03,920 Speaker 1: This has been prompted by Democrat leadership, and I'm not 32 00:02:03,920 --> 00:02:06,400 Speaker 1: surprised at all to see their nominee to the Supreme 33 00:02:06,400 --> 00:02:10,680 Speaker 1: Court again being soft on crime and not being not 34 00:02:10,760 --> 00:02:12,960 Speaker 1: being attentive to the needs of the victims of these crimes. 35 00:02:13,600 --> 00:02:19,760 Speaker 1: There's another shocking part about Judge Jackson's history, as she 36 00:02:19,840 --> 00:02:21,959 Speaker 1: has been working in the legal field, and I think 37 00:02:22,000 --> 00:02:27,040 Speaker 1: the most shocking part is she consistently has gone easy 38 00:02:27,800 --> 00:02:30,880 Speaker 1: when it comes to one crime and the person who's 39 00:02:30,880 --> 00:02:38,440 Speaker 1: committed child pornography sentencing. She has documents court case after 40 00:02:38,520 --> 00:02:42,799 Speaker 1: court case of her giving criminals convicted of child pornography 41 00:02:42,919 --> 00:02:47,600 Speaker 1: charges lighter sentences than what is recommended by federal guidelines. 42 00:02:48,360 --> 00:02:50,600 Speaker 1: When when you see that, it's not just it's not 43 00:02:50,680 --> 00:02:56,560 Speaker 1: like a one off thing, it's it's consistent. I think 44 00:02:56,800 --> 00:03:01,880 Speaker 1: it's very clear now that she doesn't believe that there 45 00:03:01,880 --> 00:03:06,160 Speaker 1: should be tough sentencing for those that are involved in 46 00:03:06,240 --> 00:03:10,840 Speaker 1: child pornography. She even defended the fact that she said, well, look, 47 00:03:10,880 --> 00:03:13,480 Speaker 1: you can get yourself in trouble real quick with the Internet, 48 00:03:14,400 --> 00:03:16,480 Speaker 1: and a few clicks can get you all of a 49 00:03:16,520 --> 00:03:19,399 Speaker 1: sudden a bunch of child porn So we shouldn't put 50 00:03:19,400 --> 00:03:22,080 Speaker 1: you in jail for a long time if you're on 51 00:03:22,120 --> 00:03:27,239 Speaker 1: the internet looking, downloading, sending child pornography. But if you 52 00:03:27,320 --> 00:03:29,840 Speaker 1: send it in the mail, then there's different guidelines for 53 00:03:29,880 --> 00:03:32,760 Speaker 1: that because that shows a real intent. I couldn't believe 54 00:03:32,760 --> 00:03:34,320 Speaker 1: the words coming out of her mouth when I heard this, 55 00:03:34,400 --> 00:03:37,480 Speaker 1: But this is literally her defense, and you've got to 56 00:03:37,560 --> 00:03:41,400 Speaker 1: have to vote on this. What did you think? It 57 00:03:41,600 --> 00:03:45,280 Speaker 1: was very disturbing to hear this. Ben If you think 58 00:03:45,320 --> 00:03:48,560 Speaker 1: about it this I was talking with Senator Cruz who 59 00:03:48,600 --> 00:03:51,120 Speaker 1: attended law school with her. It seems this pattern goes 60 00:03:51,120 --> 00:03:53,520 Speaker 1: all the way back, perhaps to her academic time, but 61 00:03:53,640 --> 00:03:57,200 Speaker 1: looking at every one of her sentencing experiences when it 62 00:03:57,280 --> 00:03:59,720 Speaker 1: had to do with this crime, she was at either 63 00:03:59,800 --> 00:04:03,880 Speaker 1: the very low end of the required sentence or even below, 64 00:04:04,320 --> 00:04:08,960 Speaker 1: even below with the prosecutor recommended. So, as you rightly mentioned, 65 00:04:08,960 --> 00:04:13,760 Speaker 1: she's been consistently, consistently off on this, consistently in favor 66 00:04:13,800 --> 00:04:17,520 Speaker 1: of those who perpetrate crimes of this terrific nature. And 67 00:04:17,600 --> 00:04:20,760 Speaker 1: it's inexplicable to me. You look at the facts here, 68 00:04:20,839 --> 00:04:23,800 Speaker 1: and for everyone that's listening, I hope that you'll understand 69 00:04:23,920 --> 00:04:27,799 Speaker 1: just I would say, how clear it is her thought 70 00:04:27,800 --> 00:04:32,200 Speaker 1: process on this. They found ten cases where she weighed 71 00:04:32,200 --> 00:04:35,880 Speaker 1: in on child pornography. Eight of those ten cases she 72 00:04:36,080 --> 00:04:39,560 Speaker 1: was below the minimum sentence, and this range anywhere from 73 00:04:39,600 --> 00:04:44,880 Speaker 1: fourteen percent to eighty eight percent. So it's it's obvious 74 00:04:44,960 --> 00:04:49,000 Speaker 1: that Jackson believes that child pornography, you know, convicts get 75 00:04:49,080 --> 00:04:53,400 Speaker 1: lighter sentences, and that's a part of her legal mindset. 76 00:04:53,560 --> 00:04:56,640 Speaker 1: Not only that, she also seems to like to defend 77 00:04:57,320 --> 00:05:00,520 Speaker 1: terrorists people at guantanam obey and this is who we 78 00:05:00,520 --> 00:05:02,279 Speaker 1: want to put on the Supreme Court. While she also 79 00:05:02,360 --> 00:05:05,919 Speaker 1: has said that she won't say that packing the Supreme 80 00:05:05,960 --> 00:05:08,760 Speaker 1: Court is a bad thing. You add all this up, 81 00:05:08,880 --> 00:05:11,200 Speaker 1: How in the world have we gotten to this point 82 00:05:11,240 --> 00:05:13,960 Speaker 1: now where this woman still still with all of this 83 00:05:14,160 --> 00:05:17,800 Speaker 1: senator has a legitimate chance of being a very legitimate 84 00:05:17,920 --> 00:05:20,960 Speaker 1: chance of actually sitting on the Supreme Court the United 85 00:05:20,960 --> 00:05:25,440 Speaker 1: States of America. Well, it's shocking that someone that puts 86 00:05:25,960 --> 00:05:28,560 Speaker 1: the rights of terrorists, if there should be any at all, 87 00:05:28,720 --> 00:05:32,479 Speaker 1: puts the rights of horrific criminals. You know, ahead of 88 00:05:32,520 --> 00:05:34,960 Speaker 1: those are the victims here. That's exactly what we've seen 89 00:05:35,000 --> 00:05:38,120 Speaker 1: in her record. This question that was asked by Leader 90 00:05:38,160 --> 00:05:42,080 Speaker 1: McConnell about her position on packing the court, she can't 91 00:05:42,120 --> 00:05:44,880 Speaker 1: answer it. I mean, that's a political question, and what 92 00:05:45,040 --> 00:05:47,400 Speaker 1: she's I think what's being uncovered through the course of 93 00:05:47,480 --> 00:05:49,760 Speaker 1: these days of interviews is the fact that we actually 94 00:05:49,839 --> 00:05:53,320 Speaker 1: have a political activist that's posing as a jurist. What 95 00:05:53,440 --> 00:05:55,640 Speaker 1: we need to have are people that interpret the Constitution 96 00:05:55,760 --> 00:05:58,440 Speaker 1: is written. That's exactly what I intend to probe when 97 00:05:58,440 --> 00:06:00,479 Speaker 1: I meet with her next week. Is she going to 98 00:06:00,480 --> 00:06:02,520 Speaker 1: interpret the Constitution as it's written? Or is she going 99 00:06:02,560 --> 00:06:05,920 Speaker 1: to be an activist that wants to view this as quote, 100 00:06:05,920 --> 00:06:08,200 Speaker 1: a living document. She's not been able to answer that 101 00:06:08,320 --> 00:06:11,680 Speaker 1: question either is a constitutional living document or is it 102 00:06:12,160 --> 00:06:14,320 Speaker 1: to be interpreted as it was written by our founder. 103 00:06:14,440 --> 00:06:16,880 Speaker 1: Certainly the latter is the correct answer. Let's see what 104 00:06:16,920 --> 00:06:19,719 Speaker 1: she has to say. Well, you obviously have colleagues and 105 00:06:19,760 --> 00:06:21,320 Speaker 1: her Democrats, and I'm not going to ask you to 106 00:06:21,400 --> 00:06:23,599 Speaker 1: name names, but I do want to get your take 107 00:06:23,640 --> 00:06:27,760 Speaker 1: on the feel of the Democratic Party. Do they feel 108 00:06:27,760 --> 00:06:30,240 Speaker 1: like her nomination is now at risk at all? Or 109 00:06:30,400 --> 00:06:34,760 Speaker 1: is this just such an activist decision from the very 110 00:06:34,760 --> 00:06:38,320 Speaker 1: beginning and a campaign payoff for a remind people that 111 00:06:38,440 --> 00:06:40,680 Speaker 1: Joe Biden made it very clear that he was going 112 00:06:40,720 --> 00:06:45,560 Speaker 1: to discriminate against all races and all sexes that were 113 00:06:45,600 --> 00:06:50,039 Speaker 1: not women or African American with its first Supreme Court nominee. 114 00:06:50,120 --> 00:06:56,360 Speaker 1: That means he basically segregated and disgradinated against about eighty 115 00:06:56,360 --> 00:06:58,440 Speaker 1: five percent eighty four percent, if we want to be 116 00:06:58,480 --> 00:07:02,320 Speaker 1: exact of the American popular no one was allowed to 117 00:07:02,360 --> 00:07:05,200 Speaker 1: get this job unless you filled the quota of being 118 00:07:05,240 --> 00:07:09,760 Speaker 1: a woman and being African American. And I worry that 119 00:07:09,760 --> 00:07:12,520 Speaker 1: this is just so much about that quota that campaign 120 00:07:12,600 --> 00:07:15,240 Speaker 1: promise that she can we can find out even and 121 00:07:15,280 --> 00:07:17,520 Speaker 1: I don't know what's worse than you know, giving light 122 00:07:17,600 --> 00:07:21,040 Speaker 1: sense as a child pornographer's child sex offenders and defending 123 00:07:21,040 --> 00:07:23,000 Speaker 1: people at guantanam A Bay. And also, by the way, 124 00:07:23,040 --> 00:07:25,760 Speaker 1: not even being able to define what a woman is 125 00:07:25,800 --> 00:07:28,760 Speaker 1: when it is what got you the eligible for this job, right, 126 00:07:28,800 --> 00:07:30,160 Speaker 1: you had to be defined as a woman to get 127 00:07:30,160 --> 00:07:32,360 Speaker 1: this job. She couldn't even define what a woman was 128 00:07:32,840 --> 00:07:36,080 Speaker 1: dealing obviously with the NCAA and what's happening with men 129 00:07:36,200 --> 00:07:39,000 Speaker 1: playing with women. But are there Democrats are starting to 130 00:07:39,440 --> 00:07:41,720 Speaker 1: think maybe this is not the right person. Are they 131 00:07:41,800 --> 00:07:45,600 Speaker 1: just going to put their head down and vote yes? Well, 132 00:07:45,880 --> 00:07:48,360 Speaker 1: I think I know the Democrats are talking about and 133 00:07:48,360 --> 00:07:50,520 Speaker 1: I know that you're being not named names, but I 134 00:07:50,560 --> 00:07:54,280 Speaker 1: will Senator Joe Manchin, who I think has stood up 135 00:07:54,320 --> 00:07:57,720 Speaker 1: against the headwinds of his own party. He's taken decisions 136 00:07:57,720 --> 00:08:00,280 Speaker 1: that were right for the people of West Virginia. Frankly, 137 00:08:00,320 --> 00:08:02,200 Speaker 1: can't imagine if people of West Virginia want to see 138 00:08:02,200 --> 00:08:05,200 Speaker 1: a judicial activist like this sitting on the bench. Somebody's 139 00:08:05,240 --> 00:08:07,880 Speaker 1: going to try to reinterpret the Constitution and push us 140 00:08:07,880 --> 00:08:11,720 Speaker 1: further to the left. But those are questions that the 141 00:08:11,840 --> 00:08:13,920 Speaker 1: Senator from West Virginia will have to answer on his own. 142 00:08:13,920 --> 00:08:16,679 Speaker 1: I will say this, though the left knows no bounds. 143 00:08:16,920 --> 00:08:20,480 Speaker 1: We saw what happened in Justice Kavanaugh was hearing. We 144 00:08:20,520 --> 00:08:24,840 Speaker 1: saw what happened when they tried to intimidate Senators Cinema 145 00:08:25,120 --> 00:08:28,520 Speaker 1: and Senator Mansion. When they don't get their way, they 146 00:08:28,600 --> 00:08:31,760 Speaker 1: know no bounds. So I think it could be extremely 147 00:08:31,760 --> 00:08:34,640 Speaker 1: difficult on any Democrat that tries to buck this, that 148 00:08:34,720 --> 00:08:37,720 Speaker 1: doesn't go along with you the preordained view that we're 149 00:08:37,720 --> 00:08:40,000 Speaker 1: going to put an activist in place. It's going to 150 00:08:40,040 --> 00:08:42,200 Speaker 1: be very hard for Democrat to vote know against this, 151 00:08:42,240 --> 00:08:44,240 Speaker 1: And as you know, the way it works for a 152 00:08:44,280 --> 00:08:47,120 Speaker 1: Supreme Court nominee, it takes fifty votes that Democrats have 153 00:08:47,240 --> 00:08:49,720 Speaker 1: fifty plus the Vice President of the United States, which 154 00:08:50,400 --> 00:08:52,720 Speaker 1: regret leave Kamal Harris sits in that position right now. 155 00:08:52,760 --> 00:08:54,920 Speaker 1: So with fifty plus one they can do this. I'm 156 00:08:54,920 --> 00:08:57,520 Speaker 1: sure there's a tremendous amount of pressure in their party 157 00:08:57,600 --> 00:09:01,240 Speaker 1: to hold the line on what every nominee they put forward, 158 00:09:01,520 --> 00:09:03,559 Speaker 1: which means it's more and more incumbent on center and 159 00:09:03,640 --> 00:09:06,439 Speaker 1: blackburning myself to point out the issues that are associated 160 00:09:06,440 --> 00:09:09,680 Speaker 1: with the candidate like this. You I always look at 161 00:09:09,480 --> 00:09:14,240 Speaker 1: the hard left media to see what they're feeling, and 162 00:09:14,559 --> 00:09:18,360 Speaker 1: you could see it changing. Senator. Last night, joy Reid 163 00:09:19,160 --> 00:09:23,120 Speaker 1: was on MSNBC and she said, quote I was getting 164 00:09:23,120 --> 00:09:24,880 Speaker 1: texts all day and have been for the last three 165 00:09:24,960 --> 00:09:28,280 Speaker 1: days from people who, similarly to what Joyce is saying, 166 00:09:28,320 --> 00:09:30,680 Speaker 1: would normally not sit there and watch all day at 167 00:09:30,760 --> 00:09:33,840 Speaker 1: confirmation hearing as I would because I'm a nerd. The 168 00:09:33,880 --> 00:09:37,120 Speaker 1: outrageous real he went A lot of it is quote 169 00:09:37,160 --> 00:09:40,480 Speaker 1: blatant disrespect. They're immediately going for the race card here. 170 00:09:40,840 --> 00:09:43,440 Speaker 1: I tweeted that they were treating her like a black shopper, 171 00:09:44,320 --> 00:09:47,560 Speaker 1: that they were following through the store. Just the ultimate 172 00:09:47,559 --> 00:09:49,959 Speaker 1: disrespect for her as a human being, as a judge, 173 00:09:50,000 --> 00:09:52,079 Speaker 1: the fact that her family was there all because, in 174 00:09:52,200 --> 00:09:56,600 Speaker 1: Lindsey Graham's view, apparently this whole hearing was payback for Cavanaugh, 175 00:09:57,440 --> 00:10:00,520 Speaker 1: who nobody told him to sexually violate his high school 176 00:10:00,559 --> 00:10:03,719 Speaker 1: friends or those girls in college and get accused of 177 00:10:03,760 --> 00:10:07,679 Speaker 1: it credibly. That is not the fault of Judge Jackson. Apparently, 178 00:10:07,679 --> 00:10:09,800 Speaker 1: according to Lindsay Graham, she needs to pay for that. 179 00:10:10,160 --> 00:10:14,160 Speaker 1: They're still accusing Brett Cavanaugh of having rape parties, which 180 00:10:14,160 --> 00:10:16,600 Speaker 1: we all know is absurd and never happened and wasn't 181 00:10:16,640 --> 00:10:19,760 Speaker 1: true and not credible, and yet they're going back this, 182 00:10:19,880 --> 00:10:22,160 Speaker 1: which makes me think maybe they really are worried that 183 00:10:22,240 --> 00:10:27,480 Speaker 1: her nomination is in real trouble. Well, they should be worried, 184 00:10:27,480 --> 00:10:30,000 Speaker 1: because what's being revealed to the American public again is 185 00:10:30,080 --> 00:10:34,600 Speaker 1: more far left policy again coming through now the judiciary branch. 186 00:10:34,679 --> 00:10:37,160 Speaker 1: They can't get it done in the legislative field, they 187 00:10:37,160 --> 00:10:38,880 Speaker 1: can't get it done at the ballot box, so they 188 00:10:38,880 --> 00:10:42,320 Speaker 1: want to install judges and justices that will push for 189 00:10:42,360 --> 00:10:44,840 Speaker 1: their far left policies. Again not accountable to the people. 190 00:10:44,880 --> 00:10:48,079 Speaker 1: But this is another avenue away that the Democrats hope 191 00:10:48,120 --> 00:10:50,440 Speaker 1: to end run the system and get their policies through. 192 00:10:50,800 --> 00:10:53,480 Speaker 1: And when you see, you know, when you see media 193 00:10:53,559 --> 00:10:56,800 Speaker 1: talking heads like this, you know, going into pivot and 194 00:10:56,840 --> 00:11:00,000 Speaker 1: full spin mode, I think it does indicate that they 195 00:11:00,040 --> 00:11:03,720 Speaker 1: see themselves in trouble. It's also just terrible to think 196 00:11:03,760 --> 00:11:07,480 Speaker 1: back about what's been done, going back to Judge Bork, 197 00:11:07,880 --> 00:11:12,200 Speaker 1: Judge Thomas, the horrific process that they put kavan On through, 198 00:11:12,600 --> 00:11:15,200 Speaker 1: and then to try to compare, you know, questioning on 199 00:11:15,240 --> 00:11:17,679 Speaker 1: the judicial record of ah nominee, try to compare it 200 00:11:17,760 --> 00:11:20,640 Speaker 1: to that. Again, they'll seek the lowest of lows and 201 00:11:20,679 --> 00:11:23,120 Speaker 1: go there as quick as possible. Tender. I want to 202 00:11:23,120 --> 00:11:27,880 Speaker 1: pivot real quick to what's happening in Ukraine, and there 203 00:11:27,920 --> 00:11:29,959 Speaker 1: seems to be a lot of talk right now about 204 00:11:30,040 --> 00:11:33,640 Speaker 1: maybe giving half of Ukraine to Vladimir Putin for some 205 00:11:33,679 --> 00:11:37,480 Speaker 1: sort of ceasefire agreement. We're also hearing now that Biden 206 00:11:37,559 --> 00:11:39,160 Speaker 1: is going to announce that the US will take a 207 00:11:39,280 --> 00:11:43,920 Speaker 1: hundred thousand Ukrainian refugees. And there's now many that are 208 00:11:43,960 --> 00:11:47,160 Speaker 1: saying that the Biden administration's policy is they do not 209 00:11:47,320 --> 00:11:51,080 Speaker 1: believe that Ukraine can stand up to Russia. So they're 210 00:11:51,320 --> 00:11:53,320 Speaker 1: basically saying, all right, give up part of the country 211 00:11:53,360 --> 00:11:56,200 Speaker 1: behind the scenes, and then maybe that'll stop all this insanity. 212 00:11:57,200 --> 00:11:59,960 Speaker 1: If this is our foreign policy, it is a disaster. 213 00:12:00,040 --> 00:12:02,000 Speaker 1: Or because a foreign policy is solely based on the 214 00:12:02,000 --> 00:12:05,520 Speaker 1: actions of a tyrant, not based on protecting people that 215 00:12:05,559 --> 00:12:08,920 Speaker 1: they live in free countries. I know that's a lot 216 00:12:08,960 --> 00:12:10,280 Speaker 1: to throw at you, but I know you got a 217 00:12:10,280 --> 00:12:12,600 Speaker 1: lot to say about it. So let's deal with the 218 00:12:12,600 --> 00:12:15,600 Speaker 1: first part, which is this real idea apparently that's being 219 00:12:15,800 --> 00:12:18,319 Speaker 1: being floated or about at the White House about all right, well, 220 00:12:18,320 --> 00:12:20,240 Speaker 1: maybe we say they take half the country and we'll 221 00:12:20,240 --> 00:12:24,280 Speaker 1: get a ceasefire out of the deal. Your thoughts, Well, 222 00:12:24,440 --> 00:12:26,960 Speaker 1: you use the word insanity then, and I think that's 223 00:12:27,000 --> 00:12:29,880 Speaker 1: got to be, you know, centfral to the whole process 224 00:12:30,000 --> 00:12:33,640 Speaker 1: that the Biden administration is working through right now. First 225 00:12:33,640 --> 00:12:36,720 Speaker 1: they talk about options in public, they talk about what 226 00:12:36,760 --> 00:12:40,280 Speaker 1: we're not going to do. We should leave this in 227 00:12:40,280 --> 00:12:43,440 Speaker 1: a position as ambiguous as possible at Vladimir Putin find 228 00:12:43,520 --> 00:12:45,880 Speaker 1: out what we're going to do depending on his actions, 229 00:12:45,920 --> 00:12:49,199 Speaker 1: and that he's setting the policy. We're negotiating against ourselves, 230 00:12:49,400 --> 00:12:51,520 Speaker 1: and we're doing it in public. I just find this, 231 00:12:51,679 --> 00:12:54,000 Speaker 1: you know, as a business person all my life, no 232 00:12:54,040 --> 00:12:56,200 Speaker 1: one handles things like this in business. I was a diplomat. 233 00:12:56,240 --> 00:12:58,480 Speaker 1: I was the US ambassador's in Japan the time when 234 00:12:58,520 --> 00:13:00,280 Speaker 1: things were as hot as they could do with North Rhea. 235 00:13:00,640 --> 00:13:02,520 Speaker 1: This is not how you negotiate. This is on how 236 00:13:02,520 --> 00:13:05,360 Speaker 1: you look at the best interests of US national security 237 00:13:05,520 --> 00:13:07,760 Speaker 1: or that of your allies. So what I see is 238 00:13:07,800 --> 00:13:10,400 Speaker 1: a very naive approach. They're fumbling around in the media 239 00:13:10,440 --> 00:13:12,880 Speaker 1: trying to see how things, you know, various options may 240 00:13:12,960 --> 00:13:17,160 Speaker 1: pull their flipping ideas so that other allies like Germany 241 00:13:17,200 --> 00:13:19,720 Speaker 1: can begin to take the lead. They're really defaulting back 242 00:13:19,720 --> 00:13:23,920 Speaker 1: to the old Obama Biden policy of leading from behind them, 243 00:13:23,960 --> 00:13:27,720 Speaker 1: and what they're doing is jeopardizing, you know, at this point, 244 00:13:28,320 --> 00:13:32,280 Speaker 1: the Ukrainians, but they're also emboldening other countries like China, 245 00:13:32,400 --> 00:13:35,679 Speaker 1: who has its design set on Taiwan and other areas 246 00:13:35,679 --> 00:13:37,520 Speaker 1: of the world I think are very hot right now. 247 00:13:38,280 --> 00:13:40,840 Speaker 1: This is this is very, very dangerous what they're doing, 248 00:13:40,840 --> 00:13:44,560 Speaker 1: and again making national security decisions by press release and 249 00:13:44,600 --> 00:13:48,360 Speaker 1: by media discussions not the right approach. You know, Putin 250 00:13:48,480 --> 00:13:50,840 Speaker 1: is a just attacked the petro dollar system is now 251 00:13:50,920 --> 00:13:56,120 Speaker 1: demanding quote unfriendly nations purchase gas in rubles. This come 252 00:13:56,160 --> 00:13:59,679 Speaker 1: as Russia's ally Belarus. As granted, this is not a 253 00:13:59,760 --> 00:14:03,840 Speaker 1: joe because the real headline January the six protesters asylum 254 00:14:04,000 --> 00:14:08,480 Speaker 1: citing political persecution in this country, trying to dig and 255 00:14:08,559 --> 00:14:12,040 Speaker 1: punch at anything they can to mess with America using 256 00:14:12,200 --> 00:14:14,800 Speaker 1: January six, which just makes at this point you just 257 00:14:14,840 --> 00:14:18,560 Speaker 1: got to laugh when you see them demanding you move 258 00:14:18,679 --> 00:14:23,040 Speaker 1: your nation's purchases of gas into roubles. And also there's 259 00:14:23,040 --> 00:14:25,560 Speaker 1: still people now apparently saying that they believe that Vladimir 260 00:14:25,600 --> 00:14:28,920 Speaker 1: Putin should actually be attending the G twenty summit that 261 00:14:29,400 --> 00:14:35,240 Speaker 1: is coming up absurd. The whole thing is absurd, but 262 00:14:35,240 --> 00:14:37,520 Speaker 1: it's obvious that they've got an information war going on, 263 00:14:37,600 --> 00:14:40,480 Speaker 1: and we need to realize and recognize the fact that 264 00:14:40,560 --> 00:14:42,960 Speaker 1: this is not just a kinetic war on the ground 265 00:14:43,040 --> 00:14:46,760 Speaker 1: in Ukraine. There's a war of information and disinformation. There's 266 00:14:46,800 --> 00:14:48,320 Speaker 1: something else we need to be prepared for, and that 267 00:14:48,440 --> 00:14:51,960 Speaker 1: the cyber attacks. You know, Russia is completely capable of 268 00:14:52,000 --> 00:14:54,400 Speaker 1: doing this. We know that Russian hackers attacked the colonial 269 00:14:54,440 --> 00:14:58,120 Speaker 1: backline just last year. Again, we need to be reflecting strength. 270 00:14:58,720 --> 00:15:01,400 Speaker 1: I reached out a secretary of the OCHRES who runs 271 00:15:01,400 --> 00:15:03,600 Speaker 1: some land security, to Secretary of Austin at the Department 272 00:15:03,560 --> 00:15:06,360 Speaker 1: of Defense last week to ask them what we're doing 273 00:15:06,400 --> 00:15:09,840 Speaker 1: to make all of our defenses available to private networks, 274 00:15:09,880 --> 00:15:12,640 Speaker 1: to state and local networks, to make certain that we're 275 00:15:12,640 --> 00:15:17,160 Speaker 1: defending ourselves against the possibility of other means of aggression, 276 00:15:17,480 --> 00:15:19,760 Speaker 1: in this case as a ciber attacks. So we need 277 00:15:19,800 --> 00:15:21,520 Speaker 1: to be very careful about that. To your point on 278 00:15:21,560 --> 00:15:25,840 Speaker 1: the G twenty, under the Trump administration, when the G 279 00:15:26,000 --> 00:15:29,600 Speaker 1: twenty was helping Osaka Japan, I was the ambassadoran President 280 00:15:29,600 --> 00:15:32,000 Speaker 1: Frump actually asked me to take his seat at the 281 00:15:32,000 --> 00:15:33,840 Speaker 1: G twenty. For one of the four rounds, I sat 282 00:15:33,840 --> 00:15:37,520 Speaker 1: next to Ladimir Putin. It's chilling to sit next to 283 00:15:37,560 --> 00:15:41,160 Speaker 1: a killer like that, and I can't imagine that Putin 284 00:15:41,240 --> 00:15:44,000 Speaker 1: could be welcome in that sort of environment moving forward, 285 00:15:44,280 --> 00:15:45,880 Speaker 1: the G twenty needs to take some at and to 286 00:15:45,920 --> 00:15:49,200 Speaker 1: address that. But the notion that Vladimir Putin could actually 287 00:15:49,280 --> 00:15:53,160 Speaker 1: be entertained and a member of organization like that, given 288 00:15:53,200 --> 00:15:56,000 Speaker 1: what he's done, he's an international pariah. Again. We need 289 00:15:56,040 --> 00:15:58,600 Speaker 1: to be leaving from the front, not behind, and demanding 290 00:15:58,920 --> 00:16:02,120 Speaker 1: that Putin by the consequence at every level for the 291 00:16:02,200 --> 00:16:05,320 Speaker 1: activity and that he's undertake you right now. Lastly, I 292 00:16:05,360 --> 00:16:07,920 Speaker 1: want to ask you about the big controversy which I 293 00:16:07,920 --> 00:16:11,040 Speaker 1: don't believe should have been a controversy, and that was 294 00:16:11,560 --> 00:16:16,000 Speaker 1: doing whatever we can to get the airplanes needed to 295 00:16:16,040 --> 00:16:19,040 Speaker 1: the Ukrainian military. It's we've been dragging our feet. I 296 00:16:19,040 --> 00:16:21,520 Speaker 1: think this administration has been very clear that that's been 297 00:16:21,560 --> 00:16:27,200 Speaker 1: their Their idea is to drag their feet on Ukraine 298 00:16:27,200 --> 00:16:30,720 Speaker 1: and just kind of see what happens when you see 299 00:16:31,200 --> 00:16:34,080 Speaker 1: this being our foreign policy for people that are actually 300 00:16:34,120 --> 00:16:35,760 Speaker 1: trying to fight for themselves. I'm not in favor of 301 00:16:35,760 --> 00:16:37,680 Speaker 1: sending our men and women. I want to make that 302 00:16:37,760 --> 00:16:40,760 Speaker 1: very clear to Ukraine. I don't want us to go 303 00:16:40,800 --> 00:16:42,480 Speaker 1: and die over there, but the people that are living 304 00:16:42,520 --> 00:16:44,440 Speaker 1: there are willing to fight and defend themselves. We should 305 00:16:44,440 --> 00:16:47,240 Speaker 1: give them everything a need. And this administration every time 306 00:16:47,400 --> 00:16:52,880 Speaker 1: is like, well, I'm just concerned that not might provoke Russia. 307 00:16:53,360 --> 00:16:55,520 Speaker 1: Should we have given them these planes and should we 308 00:16:55,600 --> 00:16:59,000 Speaker 1: have stopped playing, you know, chess while they're playing checkers 309 00:16:59,040 --> 00:17:04,400 Speaker 1: and just wipe in the board clean? Well, two points, ben, 310 00:17:04,440 --> 00:17:06,439 Speaker 1: I was not one of the people that jumped on 311 00:17:06,480 --> 00:17:08,639 Speaker 1: that letter to say that we should spend that we 312 00:17:08,720 --> 00:17:11,960 Speaker 1: should send the planes over that. I was not on 313 00:17:11,960 --> 00:17:15,200 Speaker 1: that letter, and there's a good reason for that. I'm 314 00:17:15,200 --> 00:17:18,080 Speaker 1: trying to keep my own horizon. My first entrance is 315 00:17:18,119 --> 00:17:20,159 Speaker 1: not to be emotional. I think Zelenski has done a 316 00:17:20,200 --> 00:17:23,359 Speaker 1: great job of hitting the people of Ukraine to support him. 317 00:17:23,400 --> 00:17:25,040 Speaker 1: I think he's done a great job of getting the 318 00:17:25,040 --> 00:17:28,040 Speaker 1: people of the world to support his cause. But we 319 00:17:28,080 --> 00:17:29,679 Speaker 1: need to be delivered in what we do. We need 320 00:17:29,720 --> 00:17:33,360 Speaker 1: to be focused on America's first. You know, again, Zilence's 321 00:17:33,400 --> 00:17:36,080 Speaker 1: doing a great job of making certain that Ukraine's interest 322 00:17:36,119 --> 00:17:38,440 Speaker 1: to place first. I have to be responsible for putting 323 00:17:38,440 --> 00:17:40,359 Speaker 1: America's interst first, and keep my eye HUD in the 324 00:17:40,359 --> 00:17:43,360 Speaker 1: horizon with respect to China, It's designs on Taiwan, what's 325 00:17:43,359 --> 00:17:46,399 Speaker 1: happening in Iran, what's happening in North Korea? And I 326 00:17:46,440 --> 00:17:48,840 Speaker 1: don't want to see us get so bogged down in 327 00:17:48,960 --> 00:17:51,960 Speaker 1: one situation that we can't address the others. The situation 328 00:17:52,080 --> 00:17:55,679 Speaker 1: with the MiGs is something that I've had the opportunity 329 00:17:55,680 --> 00:17:57,520 Speaker 1: now to have a classified briefing. I did not have 330 00:17:57,600 --> 00:18:00,800 Speaker 1: that benefit at the time this letter being circulated, and 331 00:18:00,840 --> 00:18:02,960 Speaker 1: I would not sign it at that point. Right now, 332 00:18:02,960 --> 00:18:07,400 Speaker 1: I'll just say this, we are and we have dedicated 333 00:18:07,400 --> 00:18:09,560 Speaker 1: in the United States sent a tremendous amount of restourse, 334 00:18:09,640 --> 00:18:13,359 Speaker 1: both lethal resources and humanitarian resources to Ukraine. My focus 335 00:18:13,440 --> 00:18:15,600 Speaker 1: right now is making certain that those resources get to 336 00:18:15,640 --> 00:18:18,160 Speaker 1: where they need to be. The Ukrainian people have demonstrated 337 00:18:18,160 --> 00:18:19,919 Speaker 1: their ability to stand up and fight. They're doing a 338 00:18:20,000 --> 00:18:23,040 Speaker 1: remarkable job. They need the material to do that. Our 339 00:18:23,119 --> 00:18:25,600 Speaker 1: job is to get that to them, rather than escalate 340 00:18:25,640 --> 00:18:27,399 Speaker 1: things to a point where we have our men and 341 00:18:27,440 --> 00:18:32,840 Speaker 1: women in a no fly zone, as Vladimir Vladimir Zelenski 342 00:18:32,920 --> 00:18:34,960 Speaker 1: is requested I mean that puts us right at the 343 00:18:35,000 --> 00:18:37,760 Speaker 1: doorstep of a direct encounter with Russia. I think we 344 00:18:37,800 --> 00:18:41,040 Speaker 1: need to be focused on enabling Ukraine but also making 345 00:18:41,080 --> 00:18:44,840 Speaker 1: certain that America has the capability to handle challenges that 346 00:18:44,840 --> 00:18:48,280 Speaker 1: are facing us on multiple dimensions. Let me just I'm 347 00:18:48,320 --> 00:18:50,040 Speaker 1: going to ask in a different way because I want 348 00:18:50,040 --> 00:18:51,560 Speaker 1: to make sure I'm very clear, because I think the 349 00:18:51,560 --> 00:18:53,439 Speaker 1: point you're making is interesting. You're afraid that if we 350 00:18:53,480 --> 00:18:57,000 Speaker 1: give them those planes, even to their pilots, that this 351 00:18:57,160 --> 00:19:01,040 Speaker 1: would then make our give Vladimir Putney in to escalate 352 00:19:01,119 --> 00:19:04,400 Speaker 1: things when it comes to chemical or even nuclear war, 353 00:19:04,520 --> 00:19:09,520 Speaker 1: and that is the concern. No, my concern is that 354 00:19:09,560 --> 00:19:12,560 Speaker 1: we help Ukraine in the most effective way possible. I'm 355 00:19:12,600 --> 00:19:15,520 Speaker 1: not convinced that those planes are the most effective way possible. 356 00:19:16,200 --> 00:19:19,320 Speaker 1: ZELENSI requested everything that he possibly could. I would if 357 00:19:19,320 --> 00:19:21,879 Speaker 1: I were in this position too, I would request the 358 00:19:21,920 --> 00:19:24,000 Speaker 1: skies to be closed as he requested, in every bit 359 00:19:24,000 --> 00:19:26,879 Speaker 1: of equipment that he could get. What we're focused on 360 00:19:27,000 --> 00:19:30,520 Speaker 1: is the most effective equipment that we can deliver to him. 361 00:19:30,720 --> 00:19:33,080 Speaker 1: There are a lot of complications associated with me ex 362 00:19:33,480 --> 00:19:37,320 Speaker 1: go beyond that. But again, according to the class of 363 00:19:37,359 --> 00:19:39,160 Speaker 1: eye briefing, that I've been able to get. I'm confident 364 00:19:39,440 --> 00:19:41,200 Speaker 1: that we're focused in the right area right now in 365 00:19:41,280 --> 00:19:43,040 Speaker 1: terms of our support. We should have been doing this 366 00:19:43,320 --> 00:19:46,080 Speaker 1: a lot sooner. We should have imposed sanctions well before 367 00:19:46,400 --> 00:19:49,000 Speaker 1: Putin never invaded, so we would have had a deterrent effect. 368 00:19:49,280 --> 00:19:52,280 Speaker 1: We should have been arming Ukraine with what we're trying 369 00:19:52,280 --> 00:19:55,000 Speaker 1: to provide now, we could have provided ahead of time. Again, 370 00:19:55,040 --> 00:19:56,880 Speaker 1: as I look at Taiwan, I'm thinking in the same 371 00:19:56,880 --> 00:19:59,639 Speaker 1: direction there. But we've got to keep our eye on 372 00:19:59,680 --> 00:20:02,200 Speaker 1: the right and again making certain that we're looking at 373 00:20:02,400 --> 00:20:06,159 Speaker 1: for America's interest first, Senator, I appreciate your perspective. That's 374 00:20:06,160 --> 00:20:07,320 Speaker 1: why I want to ask you about it, and I 375 00:20:07,400 --> 00:20:09,560 Speaker 1: think a lot of people want to understand the logic 376 00:20:09,600 --> 00:20:10,960 Speaker 1: behind it, and I think you did a great job 377 00:20:11,040 --> 00:20:13,560 Speaker 1: explain that. Thank you as always for coming on, and 378 00:20:13,680 --> 00:20:17,600 Speaker 1: obviously we'll have you back again real soon. Senator Marsha 379 00:20:17,680 --> 00:20:20,040 Speaker 1: Blackburne joins me. Now, now, Senator, I want to go 380 00:20:20,080 --> 00:20:23,600 Speaker 1: back in history real quick, and please correct me if 381 00:20:23,640 --> 00:20:26,520 Speaker 1: I am wrong. Didn't the President of the United States 382 00:20:26,560 --> 00:20:29,640 Speaker 1: of America when he was a candidate running for office 383 00:20:30,240 --> 00:20:33,359 Speaker 1: to try to buy the votes of liberal women and 384 00:20:33,560 --> 00:20:38,080 Speaker 1: of minority African American women specifically say that he was 385 00:20:38,200 --> 00:20:42,040 Speaker 1: going to only nominate and discriminate against everyone else that 386 00:20:42,280 --> 00:20:47,680 Speaker 1: wasn't a woman, and b who anybody that wasn't an 387 00:20:47,680 --> 00:20:50,960 Speaker 1: African American woman was immediately disqualified from being on the 388 00:20:51,000 --> 00:20:52,960 Speaker 1: Supreme Court with his first pick. And that true? Is 389 00:20:53,000 --> 00:20:55,399 Speaker 1: that right? Or did I get that wrong? You know? 390 00:20:55,680 --> 00:21:00,320 Speaker 1: N he was very explicit and saying that he was 391 00:21:00,400 --> 00:21:05,440 Speaker 1: going to bring more diversity and that he was going 392 00:21:05,520 --> 00:21:11,119 Speaker 1: to elevate more women. And of course, we want to 393 00:21:11,160 --> 00:21:16,480 Speaker 1: see women earn their rightful place in society. And here 394 00:21:16,680 --> 00:21:21,600 Speaker 1: we have a federal judge who has been on the 395 00:21:21,640 --> 00:21:27,400 Speaker 1: bench for nearly a decade. She is highly skilled, highly educated, 396 00:21:27,520 --> 00:21:32,400 Speaker 1: has a very impressive resume, resume, has a wonderful family, 397 00:21:32,880 --> 00:21:38,440 Speaker 1: has great parents. They opened tremendous stores of opportunity to her, 398 00:21:38,680 --> 00:21:43,280 Speaker 1: and she has taken advantage of all this opportunity. It 399 00:21:43,440 --> 00:21:48,680 Speaker 1: is the embodiment of the American dream with all she 400 00:21:48,880 --> 00:21:54,560 Speaker 1: has accomplished. And she serves on the school board George 401 00:21:54,600 --> 00:21:59,440 Speaker 1: Sam Day School. They are teaching CRT to five year olds, 402 00:22:00,119 --> 00:22:06,080 Speaker 1: have a curriculum called Woke Kindergarten. Parents are very concerned 403 00:22:06,200 --> 00:22:10,639 Speaker 1: about this about CRT. They want. They're concerned about the 404 00:22:10,760 --> 00:22:15,280 Speaker 1: rights for their children. They've seen biological men competing against 405 00:22:15,320 --> 00:22:21,240 Speaker 1: biological women in sports. They are concerned about this. They 406 00:22:21,359 --> 00:22:25,960 Speaker 1: want a Supreme Court justice who is going to defend 407 00:22:26,040 --> 00:22:31,280 Speaker 1: their right as a parent to rear their children as 408 00:22:31,480 --> 00:22:36,320 Speaker 1: they see fit and as they know best. And it 409 00:22:36,400 --> 00:22:42,000 Speaker 1: has been of concern that she will not clarify her 410 00:22:42,040 --> 00:22:47,400 Speaker 1: position on CRT. Like last night, I finally said, well, 411 00:22:47,440 --> 00:22:50,919 Speaker 1: just define woman for me. She would not give me 412 00:22:51,000 --> 00:22:55,440 Speaker 1: that definition. People have been very frustrated with her approach 413 00:22:55,640 --> 00:23:01,200 Speaker 1: on crime and the way she's been soft and child abusers, 414 00:23:01,320 --> 00:23:07,640 Speaker 1: child predators, pedophiles in her sentencing during her time on 415 00:23:07,680 --> 00:23:13,560 Speaker 1: the federal bench, all of this has come into play. 416 00:23:13,600 --> 00:23:16,080 Speaker 1: I still think I think it's shocking, though, that you 417 00:23:16,119 --> 00:23:19,639 Speaker 1: have a president Night Tents of America who even understands 418 00:23:19,680 --> 00:23:21,840 Speaker 1: what the definition of woman is, because that's why he 419 00:23:21,920 --> 00:23:25,119 Speaker 1: picked her, because she is the definition of a woman. 420 00:23:25,520 --> 00:23:29,000 Speaker 1: And so after she has picked knowing that she's being 421 00:23:29,040 --> 00:23:33,000 Speaker 1: picked because she is of two qualifications Number one a woman, 422 00:23:33,080 --> 00:23:35,680 Speaker 1: number two African American, and he had to pay off 423 00:23:35,680 --> 00:23:38,720 Speaker 1: on that promise and discriminate against everyone else. She can't 424 00:23:38,720 --> 00:23:40,879 Speaker 1: even define what a woman is when the definition of 425 00:23:40,920 --> 00:23:43,760 Speaker 1: a woman is what got her in front of you yesterday. Anyway, 426 00:23:45,480 --> 00:23:50,760 Speaker 1: it just shows you with the progressive lift, how far 427 00:23:51,000 --> 00:23:53,600 Speaker 1: they're going to go to push their agenda. Now. The 428 00:23:53,720 --> 00:23:57,679 Speaker 1: other thing I brought up to her last night after 429 00:23:58,480 --> 00:24:05,240 Speaker 1: that exchange was Demand Justice, a far left progressive group 430 00:24:05,280 --> 00:24:08,399 Speaker 1: who is seeking to pack the court, which, of course, 431 00:24:08,680 --> 00:24:11,760 Speaker 1: going back to when Judge Jackson was before us to 432 00:24:11,800 --> 00:24:14,880 Speaker 1: go on to the Appellate Court a year ago, she 433 00:24:16,240 --> 00:24:20,240 Speaker 1: would not answer the question as to where she stood 434 00:24:20,280 --> 00:24:24,000 Speaker 1: on court packing. She has refused to do that during 435 00:24:24,080 --> 00:24:28,359 Speaker 1: this confirmation hearing, and I brought to her attention last 436 00:24:28,440 --> 00:24:33,679 Speaker 1: night that Demand Justice has put out a one million, 437 00:24:34,160 --> 00:24:39,880 Speaker 1: one million dollars ad by to support her confirmation to 438 00:24:39,920 --> 00:24:45,080 Speaker 1: the US Supreme Court. And you gotta believe if court 439 00:24:45,160 --> 00:24:52,560 Speaker 1: packing comes before the US Supreme Court, they're expecting Judge Jackson, 440 00:24:52,720 --> 00:24:58,120 Speaker 1: as Justice Jackson, to support them in court packing. Why 441 00:24:58,160 --> 00:25:02,080 Speaker 1: else would they be doing a one million dollar adby. 442 00:25:02,600 --> 00:25:05,800 Speaker 1: They are doing ratties in protest all over the country 443 00:25:06,119 --> 00:25:10,560 Speaker 1: in support of her, and they're pushing hard, pushing Democrats 444 00:25:10,640 --> 00:25:15,960 Speaker 1: senators very aggressively to get her confirmed to the court. 445 00:25:17,600 --> 00:25:21,280 Speaker 1: It is shocking to see just how I would say 446 00:25:21,280 --> 00:25:24,119 Speaker 1: an activist. She is one of the other things that 447 00:25:24,200 --> 00:25:26,600 Speaker 1: I think some people that maybe were at work yesterday 448 00:25:26,640 --> 00:25:29,320 Speaker 1: and I want you to explain this. She wouldn't say 449 00:25:29,960 --> 00:25:34,000 Speaker 1: if the US should strengthen child pornographer punishments. Now, there 450 00:25:34,000 --> 00:25:38,320 Speaker 1: have been accusations that she's been lenient on child predators 451 00:25:38,840 --> 00:25:42,000 Speaker 1: when she has seen cases that involve them. Explain that 452 00:25:42,119 --> 00:25:44,200 Speaker 1: a little bit more, because this, to me, I think 453 00:25:44,240 --> 00:25:47,439 Speaker 1: is one of the most dangerous parts of what she 454 00:25:47,520 --> 00:25:49,879 Speaker 1: has done as a judge, that we actually have a 455 00:25:49,920 --> 00:25:54,760 Speaker 1: record of her doing this. Yes, exactly right in as 456 00:25:54,840 --> 00:26:01,080 Speaker 1: you know, strengthening protection of children online is something that 457 00:26:01,280 --> 00:26:05,120 Speaker 1: I have put a tremendous amount of attention on and 458 00:26:05,200 --> 00:26:09,280 Speaker 1: actually have bipartisan legislation ready to go to the Senate 459 00:26:09,320 --> 00:26:13,280 Speaker 1: floor that would strengthen some of these provisions. Well, she 460 00:26:13,440 --> 00:26:16,239 Speaker 1: sat there in these hearings and said, well, you know, 461 00:26:16,960 --> 00:26:20,600 Speaker 1: Congress hasn't given us enough guidance on this, and we 462 00:26:20,760 --> 00:26:23,760 Speaker 1: pointed out to her, well, no, that's not exactly right. 463 00:26:24,160 --> 00:26:28,240 Speaker 1: Congress has given you guidance. But what you did, instead 464 00:26:28,480 --> 00:26:34,280 Speaker 1: of going within the range of sentences, recommended the minimum 465 00:26:34,280 --> 00:26:40,000 Speaker 1: to the maximum. Her habit was to repeatedly go about 466 00:26:40,040 --> 00:26:46,800 Speaker 1: five years below the minimum, below the minimum, so she 467 00:26:47,119 --> 00:26:53,520 Speaker 1: wasn't even meeting the minimum. And we brought forward several cases. 468 00:26:53,560 --> 00:26:56,080 Speaker 1: In the research that we as a committee did, we 469 00:26:56,200 --> 00:27:00,840 Speaker 1: found ten cases that she had weighed in on and 470 00:27:01,320 --> 00:27:06,679 Speaker 1: she would repeatedly go below the minimum in these cases. 471 00:27:07,240 --> 00:27:10,200 Speaker 1: And people can go back and look through the hearing. 472 00:27:10,280 --> 00:27:12,960 Speaker 1: Senator Cruz did a great job and put them all 473 00:27:13,080 --> 00:27:16,879 Speaker 1: on a poster board so she could see them and 474 00:27:16,960 --> 00:27:19,760 Speaker 1: so she would be able to respond, and she went 475 00:27:19,880 --> 00:27:25,360 Speaker 1: anywhere from fourteen percent to eighty eight percent below the 476 00:27:25,400 --> 00:27:32,080 Speaker 1: minimum and even further below what the government was recommending 477 00:27:32,400 --> 00:27:37,680 Speaker 1: in these cases. It is shocking that this is where 478 00:27:37,720 --> 00:27:40,680 Speaker 1: we are. Unfortunately, and as you just mentioned, Ted Cruz said, 479 00:27:41,080 --> 00:27:44,000 Speaker 1: if Judge Brown gets on the bench, he said, sexual 480 00:27:44,000 --> 00:27:48,359 Speaker 1: predators would be released if your law school views prevailed. 481 00:27:48,400 --> 00:27:50,240 Speaker 1: And this is all the reason why you have these 482 00:27:50,240 --> 00:27:53,400 Speaker 1: confirmation hearings. And that is the point that he kept 483 00:27:53,440 --> 00:27:56,480 Speaker 1: saying was Look. He brought up her nineteen Harvard Law 484 00:27:56,520 --> 00:27:59,760 Speaker 1: Review note during the second day of her confirmation hearing, 485 00:28:00,040 --> 00:28:04,000 Speaker 1: talking about this, reading aloud excerpts from her major academic 486 00:28:04,040 --> 00:28:08,200 Speaker 1: work entitled Prevention Versus pun Punishment towards a principal distinction 487 00:28:08,640 --> 00:28:12,280 Speaker 1: in the restraint of release. Restraint of release sex offenders 488 00:28:12,680 --> 00:28:15,960 Speaker 1: and crews argue that Jackson was advocating for the idea 489 00:28:16,000 --> 00:28:19,000 Speaker 1: that the regulator release of sexual offenders, which can require 490 00:28:19,040 --> 00:28:22,200 Speaker 1: them to register local law enforcement officials, notify community members 491 00:28:22,200 --> 00:28:25,240 Speaker 1: of their presence, undergo DNA testing, and submit to civil 492 00:28:25,280 --> 00:28:28,400 Speaker 1: commitment for an indefinite term. Quote, could be seen as 493 00:28:28,520 --> 00:28:33,439 Speaker 1: unconstitutional if the regulations are viewed as punishment rather than preventative. 494 00:28:33,800 --> 00:28:36,879 Speaker 1: This is her thought. She's standing up for not the 495 00:28:37,000 --> 00:28:40,200 Speaker 1: children of sexual abuse, She's standing up for the sex 496 00:28:40,240 --> 00:28:46,280 Speaker 1: offenders themselves. Yes, and we pointed this out to her 497 00:28:46,880 --> 00:28:50,360 Speaker 1: in that writing. In that note, one of the things 498 00:28:50,600 --> 00:28:53,640 Speaker 1: that I've pointed out to her was that she made 499 00:28:53,800 --> 00:28:57,520 Speaker 1: a point of saying she thought that federal judges had personal, 500 00:28:57,680 --> 00:29:01,920 Speaker 1: hidden agendas. So, you know, on the first day I 501 00:29:02,000 --> 00:29:04,520 Speaker 1: asked her about this, and of course the left goes 502 00:29:04,560 --> 00:29:07,120 Speaker 1: while the New York Times is beating up on me, 503 00:29:07,600 --> 00:29:12,440 Speaker 1: Washington Post, MSNBC, CNN saying I was taking things out 504 00:29:12,440 --> 00:29:16,080 Speaker 1: of context. No, what I did was read back to 505 00:29:16,280 --> 00:29:22,440 Speaker 1: Judge Jackson her on words about releasing hardened criminals, about 506 00:29:22,520 --> 00:29:27,960 Speaker 1: going soft on child predators, about CRT in the schools, 507 00:29:28,000 --> 00:29:34,960 Speaker 1: about praising progressive education, Well, you also mentioned you also 508 00:29:35,000 --> 00:29:36,680 Speaker 1: mentioned something else, and I just want to play this 509 00:29:36,760 --> 00:29:39,080 Speaker 1: about five year olds? Can they pick their own gender? 510 00:29:39,160 --> 00:29:41,000 Speaker 1: Here is what you said in your question, so people 511 00:29:41,040 --> 00:29:42,520 Speaker 1: don't take it out of context, and I want to 512 00:29:42,520 --> 00:29:46,640 Speaker 1: get your reactions. Tell you too. With Georgetown Day School, 513 00:29:46,800 --> 00:29:50,840 Speaker 1: I found it astounding that it teaches kindergarteners. I've year 514 00:29:50,880 --> 00:29:56,560 Speaker 1: old children and I've got grandchildren, and they teach them 515 00:29:56,600 --> 00:30:01,200 Speaker 1: that they can choose their gender. So is this what 516 00:30:01,680 --> 00:30:06,480 Speaker 1: you were praising when you applauded the and I'm quoting 517 00:30:06,520 --> 00:30:13,040 Speaker 1: you transformative power of Georgetown Day School's progressive education. Do 518 00:30:13,120 --> 00:30:17,680 Speaker 1: you agree that our schools should teach children that they 519 00:30:17,960 --> 00:30:25,760 Speaker 1: can choose their gender? Senator, I'm not remembering exactly what 520 00:30:26,200 --> 00:30:32,200 Speaker 1: quote you're referencing, but Georgetown Day School is it was 521 00:30:32,240 --> 00:30:36,560 Speaker 1: in a book and you gave the quote. Okay, I 522 00:30:36,600 --> 00:30:38,760 Speaker 1: mean it's it's you can't get more straightforward than this. 523 00:30:38,760 --> 00:30:40,800 Speaker 1: This isn't I got you question, which the media said, 524 00:30:40,800 --> 00:30:43,720 Speaker 1: oh you were. This was a grotesque line of questions. 525 00:30:43,720 --> 00:30:45,680 Speaker 1: She's on the school board, she gave the quote, and 526 00:30:45,720 --> 00:30:48,360 Speaker 1: then she acts like she can't remember it well. It 527 00:30:48,440 --> 00:30:53,200 Speaker 1: was in their magazine, their annual report magazine, where you 528 00:30:53,280 --> 00:30:56,120 Speaker 1: have board members and parents bragging about the school so 529 00:30:56,280 --> 00:30:59,880 Speaker 1: this I can get more students. And she knows that, 530 00:31:00,200 --> 00:31:04,160 Speaker 1: she knows she submitted that quote and she doesn't want 531 00:31:04,200 --> 00:31:07,320 Speaker 1: to own up to it because of the way it 532 00:31:07,400 --> 00:31:12,280 Speaker 1: appears now that parents from it doesn't matter if it's 533 00:31:12,400 --> 00:31:17,800 Speaker 1: Virginia or San Francisco. People are throwing over the school board. 534 00:31:18,200 --> 00:31:21,080 Speaker 1: And if you're on the school board, then don't you 535 00:31:21,200 --> 00:31:24,560 Speaker 1: think you know a little bit about the curriculum? I 536 00:31:24,640 --> 00:31:27,400 Speaker 1: asked her last night. I said, you know you had 537 00:31:27,400 --> 00:31:32,240 Speaker 1: Senator to show you all these books and I asked 538 00:31:32,240 --> 00:31:35,440 Speaker 1: you about teaching five year olds to choose their gender? 539 00:31:35,720 --> 00:31:39,920 Speaker 1: Has there never been a parent at Georgetown Day that 540 00:31:39,960 --> 00:31:43,240 Speaker 1: has called you as a board member and said I 541 00:31:43,400 --> 00:31:47,640 Speaker 1: have a concern And she said, no, unbelievable. There's more 542 00:31:47,760 --> 00:31:50,840 Speaker 1: question coming today. I know you got to go and 543 00:31:50,920 --> 00:31:53,440 Speaker 1: get back to it all right. Lastly, please make sure 544 00:31:53,480 --> 00:31:57,840 Speaker 1: you hit that subscribe button or auto download button wherever 545 00:31:57,920 --> 00:32:00,680 Speaker 1: you were listening to this podcast right now and take 546 00:32:00,680 --> 00:32:03,760 Speaker 1: a moment to write us a five star review. 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