Speaker 1: Good morning, peeps, and welcome to WIKA F Daily with
Speaker 1: Meet your Girl Danielle Moody prerecording from the Long Island Bunker, Folks.
Speaker 1: Coming up in the show today is a deep dive
Speaker 1: recap into Cassidy Hutchinson's testimony whether or not we are
Speaker 1: actually going to see movement from the Department of Justice
Speaker 1: with our friends host of Justice Matters Glenn Kirshner, and
Speaker 1: I got to tell you that in this conversation with Glenn,
Speaker 1: you know, Glenn lays out all of the ways in
Speaker 1: which Donald Trump has no defense whatsoever. That the initial
Speaker 1: defense that we thought that Donald Trump could potentially bring
Speaker 1: if in fact the Department of Justice gets off of
Speaker 1: their ass and issues the series of fucking indictments that
Speaker 1: should have been issued, oh, I don't know, eighteen fucking
Speaker 1: months ago. But nonetheless, that Donald Trump's only defense was
Speaker 1: going to be that he was unaware that he did
Speaker 1: not win the election, that he truly and completely believed
Speaker 1: that he had the right to continue fighting until every
Speaker 1: vote was counted. Right. Well, what we have come to
Speaker 1: understand through the series of testimonies that we have now
Speaker 1: seen through the one six House Commission, and now we
Speaker 1: are on pause, but they will be back and I'm
Speaker 1: certain with more bombshells. As for the way that they
Speaker 1: closed out with Cassidy Hutchinson, is that we all know
Speaker 1: now Donald Trump knew he lost. He was told by
Speaker 1: his attorney general, he was told by his children, he
Speaker 1: was told by his inner circle, he was told by everyone.
Speaker 1: We also know that Donald Trump cannot say that he
Speaker 1: had no idea that the people in the crowd right
Speaker 1: at the Ellipsus that his bullshit stopped the Steel rally
Speaker 1: were armed. That he can't feign ignorance there either, that
Speaker 1: he actually knew that they were armed. And not only
Speaker 1: did he know that they were armed, he knew what
Speaker 1: kind of violent fucking weapons they had on them. Brass knuckles, teflar,
Speaker 1: vest a, glock ar fifteens, bear spray, a series a
Speaker 1: series of things that these people had on them, and
Speaker 1: Donald Trump knew. And what did he say, take away
Speaker 1: the metal detectors. They're not here to hurt me. How
Speaker 1: does a president of the United States not care about
Speaker 1: the rest of the people that clearly that crowd was
Speaker 1: there to hurt. How do you say they're not here
Speaker 1: to hurt me? So I need the optics to show
Speaker 1: that I got this big crowd and you're gonna take
Speaker 1: me to the fucking capital, and I'm the fucking president
Speaker 1: and I get to do whatever I want. How is
Speaker 1: it that fucking Republicans listen to this and say to themselves, Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's the guy I want in twenty twenty four. It
Speaker 1: just makes you understand that this is a cult. They
Speaker 1: are violent, They will do anything in everything in order
Speaker 1: to stay in power. What should then set off alarm
Speaker 1: bells for the Democrats and realizing that these people actively
Speaker 1: try to fucking kill them on January six, these people
Speaker 1: that they still continue to refer to as their colleagues
Speaker 1: are not trying to fun with them. And not only
Speaker 1: are they not trying to fun with them, they're either
Speaker 1: trying to physically harm them or put them into jail. Right,
Speaker 1: So that's what we know because these fucking super Bond
Speaker 1: villains are organizing and telling us in plain sight what
Speaker 1: it is that they're trying to do. So we sit
Speaker 1: here now and we wait as this Commission is now
Speaker 1: on break for the next two weeks, and when they
Speaker 1: come back, wondering what if any movement we will have
Speaker 1: heard during their break from the fucking Department of Justice.
Speaker 1: Because what Glenn will lay out is that Liz Cheney
Speaker 1: made it very clear at the end of the hearing
Speaker 1: with Cassidy Hutchinson when she put up the quotes from
Speaker 1: those people that had already testified, the ways in which
Speaker 1: Donald Trump's mafia mind was sending his lackeys to go
Speaker 1: and to intimidate the witnesses by saying things like, we
Speaker 1: know your loyal we know that you're going to testify
Speaker 1: tomorrow and do the right thing. He's watching, he knows
Speaker 1: that you're going to protect the people that need protecting.
Speaker 1: Is this good Fellas is a casino? What kind of
Speaker 1: mobster shit we're Republicans allowing to happen in the Trump
Speaker 1: administration for this behavior to seem somewhat normal, It is
Speaker 1: not so. Coming up next, friends, my in depth dive
Speaker 1: with our friend Glenn Kirshner about what we can expect
Speaker 1: with the upcoming hearings and what we can expect from
Speaker 1: this Department of Justice. Folks, you know that whenever I
Speaker 1: have the opportunity to speak with our dear friend, the
Speaker 1: host of Justice Matters and MSNBC legal analyst, Glenn Kirshner,
Speaker 1: I am always grateful because I'm waiting for the day,
Speaker 1: the day, Glenn when we get to sit here and say, so,
Speaker 1: let's run through all of the annitements that came out today.
Speaker 1: It's not that day, Glenn. But what has happened is
Speaker 1: that the House WON six Commission has closed out this
Speaker 1: ramund of their public hearings, the final being the surprise
Speaker 1: hearing with former Senior aid to Mark Meadows Cassidy Hutchinson,
Speaker 1: and I got to tell you, Glenn, I watched that.
Speaker 1: I was glued to the screen because every awful thing
Speaker 1: that I believed in my heart was happening in the
Speaker 1: Trump White House was actually happening and worse. So before
Speaker 1: we dig into the specifics of what Cassidy Hutchinson laid out,
Speaker 1: tell us your reactions, just your overall reaction to how
Speaker 1: the Commission has been building up this case. And then
Speaker 1: to the final surprise hearing as they take a break
Speaker 1: for the next couple of weeks. Thank goodness for the
Speaker 1: J six Committee because they are leading the way when
Speaker 1: it comes to exposing to the American people, frankly to
Speaker 1: the world, the crimes the sort of runaway criminal organization
Speaker 1: in the rico sense that Donald Trump and Mark Meadows,
Speaker 1: John Eastman, Jeffrey Clark, Rudy Giuliani, Steve Bannon, Mike Flynn,
Speaker 1: Roger Stone at all are And I hate to lead
Speaker 1: with this, but my overwhelming sense is discussed that they're
Speaker 1: eighteen months after we saw Donald Trump in sight an
Speaker 1: attack on the Capitol. None of the hierarchy of the
Speaker 1: insurrection has been touched with criminal charges. And I don't
Speaker 1: want to go negative early, but you know, we got
Speaker 1: more devastating information from Cassidy Hutchinson that, as you say,
Speaker 1: just when you think they can't be any more corrupt
Speaker 1: or any more dangerous in the way they went about
Speaker 1: conducting themselves, we find out from people who were in
Speaker 1: the room behind the scenes, Mark Meadows insisted on having
Speaker 1: Cassidy Hutchinson in the room for so many of these meetings.
Speaker 1: We find out that Donald Trump launched an armed insurrection
Speaker 1: on the Capitol. He was told Danielle, people in the
Speaker 1: crowd have weapons, assault rifles, glock pistols, knives, brass knuckles,
Speaker 1: bare spray body armor, and he said, take the effing
Speaker 1: metal detectors down, yep, because they're not here to hurt me.
Speaker 1: And then they can march on the Capitol. I mean,
Speaker 1: that's treason that is launched. That's levying war against the
Speaker 1: United States, against the democratic process. And it's not just
Speaker 1: that he led an attack. He led what he knew
Speaker 1: to be an armed attack. And at what point, at
Speaker 1: what point is he held accountable for any of it?
Speaker 1: At what point do the American people get some protection
Speaker 1: from this criminal organization? And now I'll tell you, I'm
Speaker 1: not going to use the word inflection point, but I
Speaker 1: think there is now a moment of truth. And here's
Speaker 1: why I say that. We now know, courtesy of Liz
Speaker 1: Cheney and the members of the J six Committee revealing
Speaker 1: this to us, that Team Trump has been threatening and
Speaker 1: intimidating and obstructing and impeding and tampering with witnesses. And
Speaker 1: whereas you can say, okay, the Department of Justice has
Speaker 1: to take eighteen months to investigate things before they bring charges,
Speaker 1: you can't say that when it comes to tampering with witnesses.
Speaker 1: Let me tell you what law enforcement looks like when
Speaker 1: witnesses get tampered with. And I know this firsthand. People
Speaker 1: asked me, Danielle, you know, for twenty two of my
Speaker 1: thirty years I was a homicide prosecutor in the courts
Speaker 1: of DC, and people ask me what was what's the
Speaker 1: worst thing about being a homicide prosecutor. I always have
Speaker 1: the same answer, dead witnesses, Because I had witnesses not
Speaker 1: just threatened, not just intimidated, not just tampered with, killed.
Speaker 1: And then you have to go into what's called the
Speaker 1: missing witness doctrine to introduce the hearsay statements of the
Speaker 1: dead witness if you can prove that the bad guys
Speaker 1: made the witness unavailable. Here's how law enforcement responds to
Speaker 1: witness tampering. You don't open a six month long grand
Speaker 1: jury investigation. The FBI interviews Cassidy Hutchinson yesterday and every
Speaker 1: other witness that was tampered with by Team Trump or
Speaker 1: anybody else. They take the substance of that interview, they
Speaker 1: immediately put it in an affidavit in support of an
Speaker 1: application for an arrest warrant. And six o'clock this morning,
Speaker 1: doors should have been banged on, and the people who
Speaker 1: tampered with witnesses should be locked up right now, not tomorrow,
Speaker 1: and not next week. This is not let's launch a nice, thorough, detailed,
Speaker 1: leisurely grand jury investigation. Witness tampering. It undermines, you know,
Speaker 1: it strikes at the very heart of the integrity of
Speaker 1: any investigation, whether criminal or congressional. And I swear if
Speaker 1: DJ doesn't take real time action on witness tampering charges,
Speaker 1: then I have little hope that anybody will ever be
Speaker 1: indicted for anything. You know. Let's let's let's break it
Speaker 1: down a minute. Because at the closing of the final
Speaker 1: hearing in in this session, in this grouping, when Liz
Speaker 1: Cheney put up on the screen the quotes from witnesses,
Speaker 1: and she said, we're not going to put up their names,
Speaker 1: obviously for fear right, for concern let me say that
Speaker 1: I'll use their words for concern um. They all said,
Speaker 1: right here, right and there. This they all said in
Speaker 1: some way or fashion. What stood out for me, Glenn
Speaker 1: was dot was whoever called and said, he's thinking about you.
Speaker 1: He's thinking about you, and he knows your loyal he
Speaker 1: knows that you will do the right thing and protect
Speaker 1: who you need to protect. I swear to God, Glenn,
Speaker 1: I'm sitting in my parents' theater. I swear to God.
Speaker 1: They have a picture of Goodfellas and Casino up on
Speaker 1: the wall I thought that that was a clip from
Speaker 1: a mobster movie. It like did not. I could not
Speaker 1: imagine the president, the former president of the United States,
Speaker 1: saying to his lackey, go call Cassidy, go call you know,
Speaker 1: any number of these people that have testified and let
Speaker 1: them know I'm thinking about them. How I mean, Glenn,
Speaker 1: is it possible that we have had way too much
Speaker 1: faith in the FBI in the Department of Justice, Because
Speaker 1: I got to tell you that I don't understand what
Speaker 1: the hell they are waiting for and why after that
Speaker 1: was put up on the screen, or better yet, why
Speaker 1: they needed to do a goddamn surprise hearing in the
Speaker 1: first place. Is because they are worried concerned about the
Speaker 1: safety of their witnesses. And instead of being direct in
Speaker 1: that communication to the American people and saying, we are
Speaker 1: having this here hearing right now and changing up our
Speaker 1: protocols for security measures because we are concerned about Donald
Speaker 1: Trump and his lackeys and what they could do right
Speaker 1: to Cassidy Hutchinson and two others, they didn't say that explicitly.
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Speaker 1: the question here is, I mean, what else do you
Speaker 1: think is needed? So first of all, this language that
Speaker 1: you just recited, you know, what team you're on, you
Speaker 1: know who you need to stay loyal too, that do
Speaker 1: the right thing, which we all know means do the
Speaker 1: wrong thing in life for Donald Trump. And there was
Speaker 1: even a statement that you know, if you want to
Speaker 1: continue to stay in good graces in Trump world world,
Speaker 1: this is Heartland witness tampering language, Danielle. I heard it
Speaker 1: for decades because less usual was getting information that somebody said,
Speaker 1: if you testify against me, I'm gonna kill you. That's
Speaker 1: not the way it's done. It is done precisely the
Speaker 1: way you just described in these messages that were revealed
Speaker 1: by the J six Committee. And here is the only
Speaker 1: wiggle room I can give the Department of Justice. Maybe
Speaker 1: they didn't know about any of this because the J
Speaker 1: six Committee hadn't shared it with them. That's not a
Speaker 1: complete defense, because they should have been investigating this in
Speaker 1: the grand jury eighteen months ago, and they would have
Speaker 1: interviewed Cassidy Hutchinson seventeen months and three weeks ago, so
Speaker 1: you know, yes, this probably happened recently, and I understand.
Speaker 1: I actually am one of those people who thinks that
Speaker 1: there has been some healthy flexing of muscles. The coequal
Speaker 1: branches of government. I'm not offended that the legislative branch,
Speaker 1: the J six Committee, said, I know you want all
Speaker 1: of our evidence, a thousand transcripts that we developed, thank
Speaker 1: you very much, and you'll get them once we do
Speaker 1: our coequal branch of government thing. We have our hearings,
Speaker 1: we show to the American people what Trump and his
Speaker 1: criminal cabal did. We issue a report, and oh, here
Speaker 1: you go. Of course, DJ could have been doing all
Speaker 1: of this on a parallel track from Jump itself. So
Speaker 1: but listen, maybe now that DJ knows that there is
Speaker 1: witness tampering going on what strikes right to the heart
Speaker 1: of the integrity of any investigation, they will do the
Speaker 1: real time law enforcement stuff they need to do. But
Speaker 1: if we don't hear that in the next couple of
Speaker 1: days the people who issued these three who intimidated this witness,
Speaker 1: and I'm sure others have not been locked up, then
Speaker 1: I will begin to lose all hope that anybody's going
Speaker 1: to be held accountable. You know, I got to tell
Speaker 1: you some of the striking points of Cassidy's testimony to
Speaker 1: me was what we opened with, which is that Donald
Speaker 1: Trump's defense was going to be that he didn't know
Speaker 1: that he lost the election and that he was going
Speaker 1: to use every mechanism within his power in order to
Speaker 1: get to the heart of what he believed was a
Speaker 1: fraudulent election. What Hutchinson laid out is that No, just
Speaker 1: like everyone before her, he knew. He also knew that
Speaker 1: that crowd was armed and dangerous, and that for optics sakes,
Speaker 1: in the same way that he did with his effing inauguration,
Speaker 1: He's like, no, bring the people in because I don't
Speaker 1: want it to look like it's not full right. And
Speaker 1: they're saying no, no, they have weapons on them, Donald
Speaker 1: Trump says, And so he can't say, well, I didn't know.
Speaker 1: The lawyers in defense can't say he didn't know what
Speaker 1: kind of weapons that he had, or no one told
Speaker 1: him that they had weapons. No, he knew. They gave
Speaker 1: him a laundry list of the weapons that they had.
Speaker 1: They're not here to hurt me. Then he directs those
Speaker 1: people that are armed in dangerous, tells them to go
Speaker 1: and take their country back, and that Mike Pence is
Speaker 1: their key for him to stay in power. So putting
Speaker 1: your other hat on, Glenn, what is the defense that
Speaker 1: his attorneys from Trump University, Because that's all that can
Speaker 1: actually defend this man. What is the defense that they
Speaker 1: would offer in if in fact criminal charges are brought.
Speaker 1: What does it look like The only defense he has,
Speaker 1: to Yelle, is if no charges are brought against him.
Speaker 1: That's the only way he can avoid being held accountable
Speaker 1: for his crimes. There is no straight faced defense. And
Speaker 1: when it comes to criminal intent, you just laid it
Speaker 1: out there based on what Cassidy Hutchinson told us. But
Speaker 1: even before her testimony, I'm going to cite a tweet
Speaker 1: from my old boss, Eric Holder. And when I say
Speaker 1: my old boss, I don't mean when he was Attorney general.
Speaker 1: Even though he was my boss as Attorney General, you know,
Speaker 1: four levels above me. He was my US attorney in
Speaker 1: the District of Columbia. He hired me, he gave me
Speaker 1: the opportunity to be a federal prosecutor, and I will
Speaker 1: always stand on his shoulders. People might not know this,
Speaker 1: but before he was nominated to be a US Attorney
Speaker 1: for d C, he was a judge on the Superior
Speaker 1: Court for the District of Columbia. And do you know
Speaker 1: who made him a judge? Do you know which president
Speaker 1: nominated him? Ronald Reagan? So you know, you can have
Speaker 1: all the partisan fighting you want, but he was actually
Speaker 1: somebody who was always respected on both sides of the
Speaker 1: aisle until the Republicans just completely lost their minds. He
Speaker 1: said when the testimony of Richard Donohue and Jeffrey Rose
Speaker 1: and high DJ officials was introduced at an earlier j
Speaker 1: six hearing, and Donald Trump said, I don't care if
Speaker 1: the election was not fraudulent, just say it was and
Speaker 1: leave the rest to me and my alb my Republican
Speaker 1: allies in Congress. That was the moment at which all
Speaker 1: the possibility of an innocent, innocent defense evaporated. And what
Speaker 1: Eric Holder tweeted out after that is that he cataloged
Speaker 1: all of the evidence of Donald Trump's corrupt intent, and
Speaker 1: then he said, and if Donald Trump tried to go
Speaker 1: into court and claim his intent was not corrupt, he
Speaker 1: would be laughed out of court. And that was before
Speaker 1: we knew from Cassidy Hutchinson. He led an armed attack
Speaker 1: on the Capitol. So he does not have a defense
Speaker 1: in court. Take it from me. I've seen all kinds
Speaker 1: of defenses, good, good, bad, ugly, and he doesn't have
Speaker 1: a defense. They will, they will mount some frivolous defense,
Speaker 1: because that's how trials play out. He has no viable
Speaker 1: defense in court. The only defense he has is if
Speaker 1: he's never charged in the first place, and then that
Speaker 1: that represents the end of our democracy. So I still,
Speaker 1: as I sit here, cannot conceive of a department of
Speaker 1: Justice that gives its stamp of approval to everything Donald
Speaker 1: Trump has done by declining to secute him, because then
Speaker 1: it is game over for America. So let's go to
Speaker 1: the car incident that Cassidy Hutchinson laid out. Now, she
Speaker 1: was not in the car right and that that was
Speaker 1: made clear. So this is I'm assuming considered hearsay Donald
Speaker 1: Trump being in a suburban lunging towards the Secret Service
Speaker 1: driver and saying, I am the fffing President, take me
Speaker 1: to the FFing Capitol, grabbing the clavicle of said driver.
Speaker 1: Does that sound like something that Donald Trump would never do,
Speaker 1: because I'm pretty sure that Eegene Carroll had laid out
Speaker 1: for us in no one certain terms that Donald Trump
Speaker 1: doesn't like to be told no, and what his reactions
Speaker 1: are to being told no? What did you make of
Speaker 1: that account? And then of course being whisked to the
Speaker 1: West wing to then throw his launch at the wall.
Speaker 1: Having catchup, sneered down the people's house like he is
Speaker 1: some tyrannical toddler. Yeah, that's the dangerous, petulant little child
Speaker 1: that Donald Trump is. I mean, when I heard that incident,
Speaker 1: it's like, you know, I expect that he did something
Speaker 1: like that three times before, you know, eleven am every
Speaker 1: Monday morning while he was president. That is the person
Speaker 1: he is. And you know, it's obviously a side show.
Speaker 1: Now if people are going to say, well, you know Onorado,
Speaker 1: Donald Trump Flunkey disagrees that that happened, Well, first of all,
Speaker 1: Cassidy Hutchinson said, this is what Onorato came back and
Speaker 1: described to me. And it was interesting because Angle was there, right,
Speaker 1: The Secret Service officer was there. Angle listed listened to
Speaker 1: every word, and he did not disagree with it. That's
Speaker 1: a little something called an adoptive admission that's admissible in
Speaker 1: court because it's an exception to the hearsay rule. So
Speaker 1: real quickly, if you and I went out and robbed
Speaker 1: the seven to eleven, we would never do that, but
Speaker 1: if we did, and then you and I afterwards told
Speaker 1: the story of how we just robbed the seven eleven.
Speaker 1: I said, man, you should have seen Danielle and she
Speaker 1: was kicking to you, and after the clerk, she grabbed
Speaker 1: up all the twinkies. Here you want a twinkie? And
Speaker 1: you sat there and you were like, you didn't disagree.
Speaker 1: You didn't, you didn't distance yourself. My words would be
Speaker 1: admissible against you in court as an adoptive admission. And
Speaker 1: that was what Liz Cheney set up in her testimon
Speaker 1: in her questioning of Cassidy Hutchinson, Angle told the story.
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, uh Amorado told the story in Angel's presence.
Speaker 1: Angle did not disagree or correct or chime in or
Speaker 1: distance himself from the account of what just happened. So
Speaker 1: you know, listen, we can talk about the side show
Speaker 1: of what happened in the limo, but none of that,
Speaker 1: none of it the tracks from Cassidy Hutchinson's credibility. So finally, Glenn,
Speaker 1: here we are. We have had John Eastman's phone seized,
Speaker 1: h Clark was put out on Jeffrey Clark was put
Speaker 1: out on the street while his house was turned over.
Speaker 1: You have Mike Flynn, who wouldn't even admit that there
Speaker 1: should be a peaceful transfer of power. You. We now
Speaker 1: know Mark Meadows and Rudy Leani both asks for pardons. Right,
Speaker 1: according to Cassidy Hutchinson's report, how does the Department of
Speaker 1: Justice not move forward? And what do you think if
Speaker 1: they don't? I mean, democracy is done, as we've been
Speaker 1: saying for well over a year now. How do they
Speaker 1: move forward? What does that look like in the next
Speaker 1: couple of months? And again, I know it's not a
Speaker 1: political body, but I do know that we have midterm
Speaker 1: elections in five months. I do know that the Supreme
Speaker 1: Court has made it very clear what their new vision
Speaker 1: is of the new world order in America. So if
Speaker 1: the Department of Justice doesn't take action, what happens here?
Speaker 1: So if DAJ fails to indict Trump and all of
Speaker 1: his co conspirators, that will be a political decision. It
Speaker 1: will not be a decision based on the facts and
Speaker 1: the law, because the facts and the law support indicting
Speaker 1: Trump for his many crimes. I mean, not only do
Speaker 1: we have a federal judge who's already concluded by a
Speaker 1: preponderance of the evidence that Donald Trump committed the crime
Speaker 1: of obstructing an official proceeding the certification of Joe Biden's win.
Speaker 1: The judge also ruled that Donald Trump committed the crime
Speaker 1: of conspiracy to defraud or commit offenses against the United States,
Speaker 1: but now based on Cassidy Hutchinson's testimony, in aggregate with
Speaker 1: everything else, he's good for the seditious conspiracy that the
Speaker 1: Proud Boys and the Oathkeepers are already charged with. He
Speaker 1: was part of launching that armed attack on the Capitol.
Speaker 1: He also incited not only a riot, which is a
Speaker 1: separate charge, he incited an insurrection. Not only that he
Speaker 1: incited an armed insurrection because we now know that he
Speaker 1: knew they were armed. And he also committed the crime
Speaker 1: of reason I think another crime that I had to
Speaker 1: crack my big blue, ugly blue book of Federal crimes
Speaker 1: the other day. He also assaulted or impeded or interfered
Speaker 1: with a public official doing his official duties. Mike Pence.
Speaker 1: That's eighteen United States Code Section one hundred and eleven
Speaker 1: one one one. That is an eight year offense if
Speaker 1: you impede or try to influence or obstruct or assault
Speaker 1: a public official during the course of, or on account
Speaker 1: of them performing their official duties like certifying a presidential election,
Speaker 1: and if you do it while you're armed, or while
Speaker 1: people you set on the Capitol that day were armed
Speaker 1: and you knew it. That's a twenty year offense. It's
Speaker 1: an eight year offense if unarmed. So you can only
Speaker 1: confine a man for but one life. But there are
Speaker 1: so many criminal charge that could be stacked up against
Speaker 1: Donald Trump and company. What does it look like? I
Speaker 1: believe it looks like a great big conspiracy indictment with
Speaker 1: Trump and Rudy and Bannon and Flynn and Stone and
Speaker 1: Eastman and Clark and Meadows and others. We've yet to
Speaker 1: learn much about Jim Jordan, but I believe he was
Speaker 1: inquiring about pardons as well. Think about how it dove
Speaker 1: tails when Donald Trump says, I don't care if it
Speaker 1: wasn't a fraudulent election, just say it was and leave
Speaker 1: the rest to me and my Republican allies in Congress. Helpfully,
Speaker 1: some of those Republican allies have self identified as co
Speaker 1: conspirators because Gomer and Biggs and Perry and the rest
Speaker 1: of these clowns, Rook and Mt. Marjorie Telligred asked for party,
Speaker 1: which is an admission that I committed a crime. I
Speaker 1: need to get away with it. And the only way
Speaker 1: I'm going to get away with it is by getting
Speaker 1: a pardon from my co conspirator, Donald Trump. All of
Speaker 1: this dovetails, Danielle. There's only one thing we need. We
Speaker 1: need an indictment, and we need a prosecutor standing in
Speaker 1: the well of the court making these arguments to twelve
Speaker 1: citizens in a jury box. And I would bet a
Speaker 1: buck my betting limit a jury will vote guilty because
Speaker 1: Donald Trump has no viable defense. Last question for you, though,
Speaker 1: glearn this actually happens. We get indictments, they go to court,
Speaker 1: they appeal all the way up to our corrupt Supreme Court. Yeah,
Speaker 1: what happens. So I have two responses and there, and
Speaker 1: they're both optimistic responses, but realistic responses. One by then
Speaker 1: hopefully we have thirteen justices, which is a non negotiable
Speaker 1: priority to up the number of Supreme Court justices to
Speaker 1: level the playing field, because right now you only got
Speaker 1: one team on the playing field at the Supreme Court.
Speaker 1: The other team can't even get out of the damn
Speaker 1: locker room. But then the other thing is, I still
Speaker 1: I have no confidence in the Supreme Court. They have
Speaker 1: become a theocracy. I mean, if they're tearing down the
Speaker 1: wall that separates church and state in all kinds of
Speaker 1: horrific ways. But I still do not believe they will
Speaker 1: do anything that will help install Donald Trump back into power,
Speaker 1: because he will then be a dictator, and dictators have
Speaker 1: no use for a Supreme Court. So it's not because
Speaker 1: I believe the Supreme Court wants to do the right thing.
Speaker 1: It's because I think they covet their own power and
Speaker 1: they will be very protective of it. I think that's
Speaker 1: why they rejected review of all of the election challenge
Speaker 1: cases when Donald Trump's cruddy lawyers were challenging the election results.
Speaker 1: Not because they're interested in doing the right thing, but
Speaker 1: because they love their position of power. They love being
Speaker 1: the last stop, the highest stop on governmental challenges, and
Speaker 1: they're not going to do anything to give that away
Speaker 1: to a tyrant or an autocrat or a dictator. So
Speaker 1: we're going to rely on their ego and vanity to
Speaker 1: be what saves the American people, not because they actually
Speaker 1: believe in doing the right thing or in the oaths
Speaker 1: that they've taken. Got it, not their honor or their
Speaker 1: ethics exactly. Glenn, I gotta tell you thank you so
Speaker 1: much for this supersized recap of where the one six
Speaker 1: Commission hearings stand. We will of course be back in
Speaker 1: conversation when the gavel back in and we see what
Speaker 1: they got left, because we know that they need to
Speaker 1: rap or their deadline to rap is the fall. So
Speaker 1: there's just but a handful of months standing between their
Speaker 1: final report and midterms, so we will come back to
Speaker 1: you for your analysis. Appreciate you, Thanks, Danielle. The Damage
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