WEBVTT - The Cruelty is Just Beginning 0:00:11.840 --> 0:00:14.520 Good morning, peeps, and welcome to WIKA F Daily with 0:00:14.640 --> 0:00:19.680 Meet your Girl Danielle Moody prerecording from the Long Island Bunker, Folks. 0:00:19.760 --> 0:00:23.720 Coming up in the show today is a deep dive 0:00:23.840 --> 0:00:29.680 recap into Cassidy Hutchinson's testimony whether or not we are 0:00:29.720 --> 0:00:32.720 actually going to see movement from the Department of Justice 0:00:33.120 --> 0:00:37.559 with our friends host of Justice Matters Glenn Kirshner, and 0:00:38.040 --> 0:00:41.440 I got to tell you that in this conversation with Glenn, 0:00:42.040 --> 0:00:44.960 you know, Glenn lays out all of the ways in 0:00:45.080 --> 0:00:49.760 which Donald Trump has no defense whatsoever. That the initial 0:00:49.800 --> 0:00:52.640 defense that we thought that Donald Trump could potentially bring 0:00:52.960 --> 0:00:55.320 if in fact the Department of Justice gets off of 0:00:55.360 --> 0:00:58.480 their ass and issues the series of fucking indictments that 0:00:58.560 --> 0:01:02.000 should have been issued, oh, I don't know, eighteen fucking 0:01:02.040 --> 0:01:08.280 months ago. But nonetheless, that Donald Trump's only defense was 0:01:08.360 --> 0:01:11.480 going to be that he was unaware that he did 0:01:11.560 --> 0:01:15.480 not win the election, that he truly and completely believed 0:01:15.520 --> 0:01:19.080 that he had the right to continue fighting until every 0:01:19.160 --> 0:01:22.600 vote was counted. Right. Well, what we have come to 0:01:22.680 --> 0:01:26.319 understand through the series of testimonies that we have now 0:01:26.400 --> 0:01:29.000 seen through the one six House Commission, and now we 0:01:29.080 --> 0:01:31.760 are on pause, but they will be back and I'm 0:01:31.760 --> 0:01:34.759 certain with more bombshells. As for the way that they 0:01:34.800 --> 0:01:39.240 closed out with Cassidy Hutchinson, is that we all know 0:01:39.360 --> 0:01:43.520 now Donald Trump knew he lost. He was told by 0:01:43.560 --> 0:01:46.400 his attorney general, he was told by his children, he 0:01:46.480 --> 0:01:50.120 was told by his inner circle, he was told by everyone. 0:01:50.880 --> 0:01:53.840 We also know that Donald Trump cannot say that he 0:01:53.880 --> 0:01:56.840 had no idea that the people in the crowd right 0:01:56.920 --> 0:02:00.120 at the Ellipsus that his bullshit stopped the Steel rally 0:02:00.320 --> 0:02:04.360 were armed. That he can't feign ignorance there either, that 0:02:04.520 --> 0:02:07.240 he actually knew that they were armed. And not only 0:02:07.280 --> 0:02:09.400 did he know that they were armed, he knew what 0:02:09.560 --> 0:02:17.720 kind of violent fucking weapons they had on them. Brass knuckles, teflar, 0:02:17.840 --> 0:02:25.440 vest a, glock ar fifteens, bear spray, a series a 0:02:25.720 --> 0:02:31.240 series of things that these people had on them, and 0:02:31.360 --> 0:02:34.200 Donald Trump knew. And what did he say, take away 0:02:34.240 --> 0:02:38.600 the metal detectors. They're not here to hurt me. How 0:02:38.680 --> 0:02:43.880 does a president of the United States not care about 0:02:44.080 --> 0:02:48.840 the rest of the people that clearly that crowd was 0:02:48.919 --> 0:02:53.760 there to hurt. How do you say they're not here 0:02:53.800 --> 0:02:56.520 to hurt me? So I need the optics to show 0:02:56.760 --> 0:02:59.200 that I got this big crowd and you're gonna take 0:02:59.240 --> 0:03:02.359 me to the fucking capital, and I'm the fucking president 0:03:02.440 --> 0:03:04.840 and I get to do whatever I want. How is 0:03:04.880 --> 0:03:10.799 it that fucking Republicans listen to this and say to themselves, Yeah, 0:03:10.840 --> 0:03:13.200 that's the guy I want in twenty twenty four. It 0:03:13.320 --> 0:03:16.679 just makes you understand that this is a cult. They 0:03:16.680 --> 0:03:19.959 are violent, They will do anything in everything in order 0:03:20.000 --> 0:03:23.240 to stay in power. What should then set off alarm 0:03:23.320 --> 0:03:27.959 bells for the Democrats and realizing that these people actively 0:03:28.040 --> 0:03:31.720 try to fucking kill them on January six, these people 0:03:31.800 --> 0:03:34.560 that they still continue to refer to as their colleagues 0:03:34.880 --> 0:03:36.840 are not trying to fun with them. And not only 0:03:36.840 --> 0:03:38.840 are they not trying to fun with them, they're either 0:03:38.960 --> 0:03:43.840 trying to physically harm them or put them into jail. Right, 0:03:44.160 --> 0:03:48.400 So that's what we know because these fucking super Bond 0:03:48.520 --> 0:03:53.000 villains are organizing and telling us in plain sight what 0:03:53.040 --> 0:03:56.320 it is that they're trying to do. So we sit 0:03:56.400 --> 0:04:01.320 here now and we wait as this Commission is now 0:04:01.400 --> 0:04:05.040 on break for the next two weeks, and when they 0:04:05.120 --> 0:04:08.960 come back, wondering what if any movement we will have 0:04:09.040 --> 0:04:12.080 heard during their break from the fucking Department of Justice. 0:04:12.120 --> 0:04:17.400 Because what Glenn will lay out is that Liz Cheney 0:04:18.000 --> 0:04:22.159 made it very clear at the end of the hearing 0:04:22.200 --> 0:04:26.640 with Cassidy Hutchinson when she put up the quotes from 0:04:26.680 --> 0:04:30.159 those people that had already testified, the ways in which 0:04:30.320 --> 0:04:35.680 Donald Trump's mafia mind was sending his lackeys to go 0:04:36.080 --> 0:04:41.719 and to intimidate the witnesses by saying things like, we 0:04:41.880 --> 0:04:44.880 know your loyal we know that you're going to testify 0:04:44.960 --> 0:04:49.159 tomorrow and do the right thing. He's watching, he knows 0:04:49.240 --> 0:04:52.080 that you're going to protect the people that need protecting. 0:04:53.040 --> 0:04:58.280 Is this good Fellas is a casino? What kind of 0:04:58.320 --> 0:05:04.359 mobster shit we're Republicans allowing to happen in the Trump 0:05:04.400 --> 0:05:10.240 administration for this behavior to seem somewhat normal, It is 0:05:10.360 --> 0:05:14.200 not so. Coming up next, friends, my in depth dive 0:05:14.360 --> 0:05:21.280 with our friend Glenn Kirshner about what we can expect 0:05:21.760 --> 0:05:25.839 with the upcoming hearings and what we can expect from 0:05:26.200 --> 0:05:32.440 this Department of Justice. Folks, you know that whenever I 0:05:32.480 --> 0:05:35.240 have the opportunity to speak with our dear friend, the 0:05:35.320 --> 0:05:39.279 host of Justice Matters and MSNBC legal analyst, Glenn Kirshner, 0:05:39.760 --> 0:05:43.039 I am always grateful because I'm waiting for the day, 0:05:43.080 --> 0:05:46.800 the day, Glenn when we get to sit here and say, so, 0:05:46.880 --> 0:05:50.160 let's run through all of the annitements that came out today. 0:05:50.200 --> 0:05:55.040 It's not that day, Glenn. But what has happened is 0:05:55.200 --> 0:05:59.640 that the House WON six Commission has closed out this 0:05:59.760 --> 0:06:05.520 ramund of their public hearings, the final being the surprise 0:06:05.680 --> 0:06:11.919 hearing with former Senior aid to Mark Meadows Cassidy Hutchinson, 0:06:12.720 --> 0:06:15.320 and I got to tell you, Glenn, I watched that. 0:06:15.400 --> 0:06:19.039 I was glued to the screen because every awful thing 0:06:19.600 --> 0:06:21.760 that I believed in my heart was happening in the 0:06:21.760 --> 0:06:26.320 Trump White House was actually happening and worse. So before 0:06:26.320 --> 0:06:30.479 we dig into the specifics of what Cassidy Hutchinson laid out, 0:06:31.600 --> 0:06:38.080 tell us your reactions, just your overall reaction to how 0:06:38.200 --> 0:06:41.000 the Commission has been building up this case. And then 0:06:41.040 --> 0:06:44.080 to the final surprise hearing as they take a break 0:06:44.320 --> 0:06:47.719 for the next couple of weeks. Thank goodness for the 0:06:47.839 --> 0:06:52.479 J six Committee because they are leading the way when 0:06:52.520 --> 0:06:56.120 it comes to exposing to the American people, frankly to 0:06:56.200 --> 0:07:02.560 the world, the crimes the sort of runaway criminal organization 0:07:03.360 --> 0:07:07.800 in the rico sense that Donald Trump and Mark Meadows, 0:07:07.920 --> 0:07:11.800 John Eastman, Jeffrey Clark, Rudy Giuliani, Steve Bannon, Mike Flynn, 0:07:12.080 --> 0:07:17.040 Roger Stone at all are And I hate to lead 0:07:17.080 --> 0:07:23.840 with this, but my overwhelming sense is discussed that they're 0:07:24.120 --> 0:07:28.320 eighteen months after we saw Donald Trump in sight an 0:07:28.320 --> 0:07:32.840 attack on the Capitol. None of the hierarchy of the 0:07:32.880 --> 0:07:39.200 insurrection has been touched with criminal charges. And I don't 0:07:39.200 --> 0:07:42.840 want to go negative early, but you know, we got 0:07:42.880 --> 0:07:49.680 more devastating information from Cassidy Hutchinson that, as you say, 0:07:49.840 --> 0:07:53.480 just when you think they can't be any more corrupt 0:07:53.760 --> 0:07:58.360 or any more dangerous in the way they went about 0:07:58.440 --> 0:08:02.960 conducting themselves, we find out from people who were in 0:08:03.000 --> 0:08:07.760 the room behind the scenes, Mark Meadows insisted on having 0:08:08.000 --> 0:08:12.320 Cassidy Hutchinson in the room for so many of these meetings. 0:08:12.760 --> 0:08:18.200 We find out that Donald Trump launched an armed insurrection 0:08:18.760 --> 0:08:23.280 on the Capitol. He was told Danielle, people in the 0:08:23.280 --> 0:08:30.080 crowd have weapons, assault rifles, glock pistols, knives, brass knuckles, 0:08:30.160 --> 0:08:34.439 bare spray body armor, and he said, take the effing 0:08:34.480 --> 0:08:39.320 metal detectors down, yep, because they're not here to hurt me. 0:08:39.720 --> 0:08:43.840 And then they can march on the Capitol. I mean, 0:08:44.760 --> 0:08:50.839 that's treason that is launched. That's levying war against the 0:08:50.960 --> 0:08:56.080 United States, against the democratic process. And it's not just 0:08:56.520 --> 0:08:59.280 that he led an attack. He led what he knew 0:08:59.280 --> 0:09:05.160 to be an armed attack. And at what point, at 0:09:05.200 --> 0:09:08.880 what point is he held accountable for any of it? 0:09:08.960 --> 0:09:13.240 At what point do the American people get some protection 0:09:14.080 --> 0:09:19.400 from this criminal organization? And now I'll tell you, I'm 0:09:19.559 --> 0:09:22.959 not going to use the word inflection point, but I 0:09:23.000 --> 0:09:28.320 think there is now a moment of truth. And here's 0:09:28.360 --> 0:09:33.199 why I say that. We now know, courtesy of Liz 0:09:33.320 --> 0:09:37.479 Cheney and the members of the J six Committee revealing 0:09:37.520 --> 0:09:41.240 this to us, that Team Trump has been threatening and 0:09:41.320 --> 0:09:48.120 intimidating and obstructing and impeding and tampering with witnesses. And 0:09:49.160 --> 0:09:53.520 whereas you can say, okay, the Department of Justice has 0:09:53.559 --> 0:09:57.720 to take eighteen months to investigate things before they bring charges, 0:09:58.200 --> 0:10:02.679 you can't say that when it comes to tampering with witnesses. 0:10:02.760 --> 0:10:06.400 Let me tell you what law enforcement looks like when 0:10:06.440 --> 0:10:09.760 witnesses get tampered with. And I know this firsthand. People 0:10:09.800 --> 0:10:12.400 asked me, Danielle, you know, for twenty two of my 0:10:12.440 --> 0:10:14.959 thirty years I was a homicide prosecutor in the courts 0:10:15.000 --> 0:10:17.920 of DC, and people ask me what was what's the 0:10:17.960 --> 0:10:20.800 worst thing about being a homicide prosecutor. I always have 0:10:20.840 --> 0:10:26.360 the same answer, dead witnesses, Because I had witnesses not 0:10:26.559 --> 0:10:31.120 just threatened, not just intimidated, not just tampered with, killed. 0:10:32.000 --> 0:10:33.840 And then you have to go into what's called the 0:10:33.920 --> 0:10:38.400 missing witness doctrine to introduce the hearsay statements of the 0:10:38.480 --> 0:10:42.000 dead witness if you can prove that the bad guys 0:10:43.080 --> 0:10:49.920 made the witness unavailable. Here's how law enforcement responds to 0:10:50.320 --> 0:10:53.760 witness tampering. You don't open a six month long grand 0:10:53.800 --> 0:11:01.120 jury investigation. The FBI interviews Cassidy Hutchinson yesterday and every 0:11:01.160 --> 0:11:04.480 other witness that was tampered with by Team Trump or 0:11:04.520 --> 0:11:08.800 anybody else. They take the substance of that interview, they 0:11:08.880 --> 0:11:12.760 immediately put it in an affidavit in support of an 0:11:12.800 --> 0:11:17.120 application for an arrest warrant. And six o'clock this morning, 0:11:17.600 --> 0:11:22.000 doors should have been banged on, and the people who 0:11:22.080 --> 0:11:27.520 tampered with witnesses should be locked up right now, not tomorrow, 0:11:27.720 --> 0:11:33.359 and not next week. This is not let's launch a nice, thorough, detailed, 0:11:33.480 --> 0:11:41.000 leisurely grand jury investigation. Witness tampering. It undermines, you know, 0:11:41.760 --> 0:11:44.280 it strikes at the very heart of the integrity of 0:11:44.280 --> 0:11:49.800 any investigation, whether criminal or congressional. And I swear if 0:11:49.920 --> 0:11:56.319 DJ doesn't take real time action on witness tampering charges, 0:11:57.200 --> 0:12:01.720 then I have little hope that anybody will ever be 0:12:01.760 --> 0:12:06.000 indicted for anything. You know. Let's let's let's break it 0:12:06.040 --> 0:12:11.120 down a minute. Because at the closing of the final 0:12:11.720 --> 0:12:16.600 hearing in in this session, in this grouping, when Liz 0:12:16.840 --> 0:12:21.880 Cheney put up on the screen the quotes from witnesses, 0:12:21.960 --> 0:12:24.080 and she said, we're not going to put up their names, 0:12:24.120 --> 0:12:28.920 obviously for fear right, for concern let me say that 0:12:28.960 --> 0:12:33.760 I'll use their words for concern um. They all said, 0:12:33.880 --> 0:12:36.960 right here, right and there. This they all said in 0:12:37.000 --> 0:12:40.880 some way or fashion. What stood out for me, Glenn 0:12:41.480 --> 0:12:48.120 was dot was whoever called and said, he's thinking about you. 0:12:50.080 --> 0:12:53.920 He's thinking about you, and he knows your loyal he 0:12:54.080 --> 0:12:58.079 knows that you will do the right thing and protect 0:12:58.120 --> 0:13:02.280 who you need to protect. I swear to God, Glenn, 0:13:02.440 --> 0:13:05.600 I'm sitting in my parents' theater. I swear to God. 0:13:05.679 --> 0:13:08.160 They have a picture of Goodfellas and Casino up on 0:13:08.160 --> 0:13:11.400 the wall I thought that that was a clip from 0:13:11.400 --> 0:13:16.120 a mobster movie. It like did not. I could not 0:13:16.360 --> 0:13:20.600 imagine the president, the former president of the United States, 0:13:20.640 --> 0:13:26.320 saying to his lackey, go call Cassidy, go call you know, 0:13:26.480 --> 0:13:28.959 any number of these people that have testified and let 0:13:28.960 --> 0:13:34.280 them know I'm thinking about them. How I mean, Glenn, 0:13:34.400 --> 0:13:37.840 is it possible that we have had way too much 0:13:37.920 --> 0:13:41.400 faith in the FBI in the Department of Justice, Because 0:13:41.400 --> 0:13:45.240 I got to tell you that I don't understand what 0:13:45.320 --> 0:13:48.640 the hell they are waiting for and why after that 0:13:48.760 --> 0:13:51.200 was put up on the screen, or better yet, why 0:13:51.280 --> 0:13:53.720 they needed to do a goddamn surprise hearing in the 0:13:53.800 --> 0:13:57.920 first place. Is because they are worried concerned about the 0:13:57.960 --> 0:14:02.400 safety of their witnesses. And instead of being direct in 0:14:02.440 --> 0:14:06.360 that communication to the American people and saying, we are 0:14:06.440 --> 0:14:10.000 having this here hearing right now and changing up our 0:14:10.040 --> 0:14:15.480 protocols for security measures because we are concerned about Donald 0:14:15.480 --> 0:14:20.000 Trump and his lackeys and what they could do right 0:14:20.360 --> 0:14:25.359 to Cassidy Hutchinson and two others, they didn't say that explicitly. 0:14:26.280 --> 0:14:28.680 Get a behind the scenes look at Comedy Central's The 0:14:28.760 --> 0:14:31.840 Daily Show on Beyond the Scenes, an original podcast from 0:14:31.840 --> 0:14:34.440 The Daily Show with Trevor Noah. Every week, host Roy 0:14:34.480 --> 0:14:37.200 Wood Junior goes deeper with the notable guests and experts 0:14:37.280 --> 0:14:40.120 from the Emmy Award winning series. 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And there was 0:15:48.320 --> 0:15:50.720 even a statement that you know, if you want to 0:15:50.720 --> 0:15:54.400 continue to stay in good graces in Trump world world, 0:15:54.760 --> 0:15:59.920 this is Heartland witness tampering language, Danielle. I heard it 0:16:00.280 --> 0:16:06.600 for decades because less usual was getting information that somebody said, 0:16:06.600 --> 0:16:09.120 if you testify against me, I'm gonna kill you. That's 0:16:09.160 --> 0:16:12.480 not the way it's done. It is done precisely the 0:16:12.520 --> 0:16:16.480 way you just described in these messages that were revealed 0:16:16.520 --> 0:16:19.880 by the J six Committee. And here is the only 0:16:19.920 --> 0:16:24.080 wiggle room I can give the Department of Justice. Maybe 0:16:24.080 --> 0:16:27.040 they didn't know about any of this because the J 0:16:27.200 --> 0:16:31.080 six Committee hadn't shared it with them. That's not a 0:16:31.160 --> 0:16:35.720 complete defense, because they should have been investigating this in 0:16:35.760 --> 0:16:39.240 the grand jury eighteen months ago, and they would have 0:16:39.320 --> 0:16:45.560 interviewed Cassidy Hutchinson seventeen months and three weeks ago, so 0:16:45.840 --> 0:16:50.560 you know, yes, this probably happened recently, and I understand. 0:16:50.680 --> 0:16:53.680 I actually am one of those people who thinks that 0:16:54.080 --> 0:17:01.040 there has been some healthy flexing of muscles. The coequal 0:17:01.080 --> 0:17:05.840 branches of government. I'm not offended that the legislative branch, 0:17:06.119 --> 0:17:09.200 the J six Committee, said, I know you want all 0:17:09.240 --> 0:17:14.520 of our evidence, a thousand transcripts that we developed, thank 0:17:14.560 --> 0:17:18.040 you very much, and you'll get them once we do 0:17:18.440 --> 0:17:22.600 our coequal branch of government thing. We have our hearings, 0:17:23.000 --> 0:17:25.600 we show to the American people what Trump and his 0:17:25.680 --> 0:17:29.120 criminal cabal did. We issue a report, and oh, here 0:17:29.119 --> 0:17:32.359 you go. Of course, DJ could have been doing all 0:17:32.400 --> 0:17:36.800 of this on a parallel track from Jump itself. So 0:17:37.320 --> 0:17:42.040 but listen, maybe now that DJ knows that there is 0:17:42.200 --> 0:17:45.560 witness tampering going on what strikes right to the heart 0:17:45.600 --> 0:17:50.040 of the integrity of any investigation, they will do the 0:17:50.080 --> 0:17:55.120 real time law enforcement stuff they need to do. But 0:17:55.160 --> 0:17:57.240 if we don't hear that in the next couple of 0:17:57.320 --> 0:18:02.280 days the people who issued these three who intimidated this witness, 0:18:02.320 --> 0:18:07.320 and I'm sure others have not been locked up, then 0:18:07.720 --> 0:18:10.840 I will begin to lose all hope that anybody's going 0:18:10.880 --> 0:18:13.360 to be held accountable. You know, I got to tell 0:18:13.400 --> 0:18:19.840 you some of the striking points of Cassidy's testimony to 0:18:19.920 --> 0:18:24.639 me was what we opened with, which is that Donald 0:18:24.640 --> 0:18:29.880 Trump's defense was going to be that he didn't know 0:18:30.240 --> 0:18:32.800 that he lost the election and that he was going 0:18:32.880 --> 0:18:37.879 to use every mechanism within his power in order to 0:18:37.960 --> 0:18:40.159 get to the heart of what he believed was a 0:18:40.200 --> 0:18:44.920 fraudulent election. What Hutchinson laid out is that No, just 0:18:45.000 --> 0:18:49.440 like everyone before her, he knew. He also knew that 0:18:49.440 --> 0:18:54.639 that crowd was armed and dangerous, and that for optics sakes, 0:18:55.000 --> 0:18:57.960 in the same way that he did with his effing inauguration, 0:18:58.640 --> 0:19:01.800 He's like, no, bring the people in because I don't 0:19:01.840 --> 0:19:06.280 want it to look like it's not full right. And 0:19:06.320 --> 0:19:10.679 they're saying no, no, they have weapons on them, Donald 0:19:10.680 --> 0:19:14.479 Trump says, And so he can't say, well, I didn't know. 0:19:14.560 --> 0:19:17.399 The lawyers in defense can't say he didn't know what 0:19:17.480 --> 0:19:19.520 kind of weapons that he had, or no one told 0:19:19.600 --> 0:19:22.240 him that they had weapons. No, he knew. They gave 0:19:22.320 --> 0:19:24.600 him a laundry list of the weapons that they had. 0:19:25.000 --> 0:19:31.200 They're not here to hurt me. Then he directs those 0:19:31.240 --> 0:19:33.600 people that are armed in dangerous, tells them to go 0:19:33.640 --> 0:19:36.800 and take their country back, and that Mike Pence is 0:19:36.840 --> 0:19:41.719 their key for him to stay in power. So putting 0:19:41.760 --> 0:19:45.960 your other hat on, Glenn, what is the defense that 0:19:46.119 --> 0:19:49.359 his attorneys from Trump University, Because that's all that can 0:19:49.640 --> 0:19:53.159 actually defend this man. What is the defense that they 0:19:53.160 --> 0:19:56.879 would offer in if in fact criminal charges are brought. 0:19:57.000 --> 0:19:59.680 What does it look like The only defense he has, 0:19:59.760 --> 0:20:03.160 to Yelle, is if no charges are brought against him. 0:20:03.720 --> 0:20:06.880 That's the only way he can avoid being held accountable 0:20:07.280 --> 0:20:12.919 for his crimes. There is no straight faced defense. And 0:20:13.000 --> 0:20:15.399 when it comes to criminal intent, you just laid it 0:20:15.440 --> 0:20:18.760 out there based on what Cassidy Hutchinson told us. But 0:20:18.840 --> 0:20:22.399 even before her testimony, I'm going to cite a tweet 0:20:22.480 --> 0:20:25.000 from my old boss, Eric Holder. And when I say 0:20:25.080 --> 0:20:27.399 my old boss, I don't mean when he was Attorney general. 0:20:27.440 --> 0:20:30.159 Even though he was my boss as Attorney General, you know, 0:20:30.320 --> 0:20:33.680 four levels above me. He was my US attorney in 0:20:33.720 --> 0:20:36.159 the District of Columbia. He hired me, he gave me 0:20:36.200 --> 0:20:39.920 the opportunity to be a federal prosecutor, and I will 0:20:39.960 --> 0:20:42.960 always stand on his shoulders. People might not know this, 0:20:43.520 --> 0:20:48.240 but before he was nominated to be a US Attorney 0:20:48.280 --> 0:20:51.480 for d C, he was a judge on the Superior 0:20:51.520 --> 0:20:53.880 Court for the District of Columbia. And do you know 0:20:54.160 --> 0:20:56.800 who made him a judge? Do you know which president 0:20:56.880 --> 0:21:03.080 nominated him? Ronald Reagan? So you know, you can have 0:21:03.160 --> 0:21:06.080 all the partisan fighting you want, but he was actually 0:21:06.119 --> 0:21:10.040 somebody who was always respected on both sides of the 0:21:10.119 --> 0:21:14.520 aisle until the Republicans just completely lost their minds. He 0:21:14.680 --> 0:21:20.440 said when the testimony of Richard Donohue and Jeffrey Rose 0:21:20.560 --> 0:21:25.480 and high DJ officials was introduced at an earlier j 0:21:25.680 --> 0:21:30.680 six hearing, and Donald Trump said, I don't care if 0:21:30.680 --> 0:21:36.160 the election was not fraudulent, just say it was and 0:21:36.280 --> 0:21:39.800 leave the rest to me and my alb my Republican 0:21:40.040 --> 0:21:45.360 allies in Congress. That was the moment at which all 0:21:45.720 --> 0:21:52.840 the possibility of an innocent, innocent defense evaporated. And what 0:21:53.040 --> 0:21:58.119 Eric Holder tweeted out after that is that he cataloged 0:21:58.160 --> 0:22:00.520 all of the evidence of Donald Trump's corrupt intent, and 0:22:00.520 --> 0:22:02.840 then he said, and if Donald Trump tried to go 0:22:02.880 --> 0:22:07.119 into court and claim his intent was not corrupt, he 0:22:07.240 --> 0:22:11.960 would be laughed out of court. And that was before 0:22:12.800 --> 0:22:17.600 we knew from Cassidy Hutchinson. He led an armed attack 0:22:18.160 --> 0:22:23.400 on the Capitol. So he does not have a defense 0:22:23.520 --> 0:22:26.560 in court. Take it from me. I've seen all kinds 0:22:26.560 --> 0:22:31.399 of defenses, good, good, bad, ugly, and he doesn't have 0:22:31.480 --> 0:22:34.960 a defense. They will, they will mount some frivolous defense, 0:22:35.040 --> 0:22:39.240 because that's how trials play out. He has no viable 0:22:39.280 --> 0:22:42.480 defense in court. The only defense he has is if 0:22:42.480 --> 0:22:46.159 he's never charged in the first place, and then that 0:22:46.160 --> 0:22:49.520 that represents the end of our democracy. So I still, 0:22:49.560 --> 0:22:53.399 as I sit here, cannot conceive of a department of 0:22:53.480 --> 0:22:56.960 Justice that gives its stamp of approval to everything Donald 0:22:57.000 --> 0:23:01.919 Trump has done by declining to secute him, because then 0:23:01.960 --> 0:23:07.560 it is game over for America. So let's go to 0:23:09.160 --> 0:23:14.560 the car incident that Cassidy Hutchinson laid out. Now, she 0:23:14.760 --> 0:23:17.159 was not in the car right and that that was 0:23:17.200 --> 0:23:23.800 made clear. So this is I'm assuming considered hearsay Donald 0:23:23.800 --> 0:23:31.000 Trump being in a suburban lunging towards the Secret Service 0:23:31.119 --> 0:23:35.480 driver and saying, I am the fffing President, take me 0:23:35.600 --> 0:23:42.560 to the FFing Capitol, grabbing the clavicle of said driver. 0:23:43.840 --> 0:23:46.960 Does that sound like something that Donald Trump would never do, 0:23:47.400 --> 0:23:50.960 because I'm pretty sure that Eegene Carroll had laid out 0:23:51.040 --> 0:23:54.480 for us in no one certain terms that Donald Trump 0:23:54.520 --> 0:23:57.920 doesn't like to be told no, and what his reactions 0:23:58.000 --> 0:24:02.760 are to being told no? What did you make of 0:24:03.600 --> 0:24:06.439 that account? And then of course being whisked to the 0:24:06.520 --> 0:24:11.320 West wing to then throw his launch at the wall. 0:24:11.840 --> 0:24:16.320 Having catchup, sneered down the people's house like he is 0:24:16.359 --> 0:24:21.520 some tyrannical toddler. Yeah, that's the dangerous, petulant little child 0:24:21.640 --> 0:24:24.560 that Donald Trump is. I mean, when I heard that incident, 0:24:24.640 --> 0:24:27.680 it's like, you know, I expect that he did something 0:24:27.720 --> 0:24:31.440 like that three times before, you know, eleven am every 0:24:31.480 --> 0:24:34.639 Monday morning while he was president. That is the person 0:24:34.800 --> 0:24:39.480 he is. And you know, it's obviously a side show. 0:24:39.680 --> 0:24:44.240 Now if people are going to say, well, you know Onorado, 0:24:44.960 --> 0:24:50.200 Donald Trump Flunkey disagrees that that happened, Well, first of all, 0:24:50.240 --> 0:24:54.080 Cassidy Hutchinson said, this is what Onorato came back and 0:24:54.160 --> 0:25:00.280 described to me. And it was interesting because Angle was there, right, 0:25:00.320 --> 0:25:04.879 The Secret Service officer was there. Angle listed listened to 0:25:05.080 --> 0:25:08.880 every word, and he did not disagree with it. That's 0:25:08.880 --> 0:25:14.240 a little something called an adoptive admission that's admissible in 0:25:14.359 --> 0:25:17.040 court because it's an exception to the hearsay rule. So 0:25:17.320 --> 0:25:19.439 real quickly, if you and I went out and robbed 0:25:19.440 --> 0:25:21.760 the seven to eleven, we would never do that, but 0:25:21.920 --> 0:25:26.280 if we did, and then you and I afterwards told 0:25:26.320 --> 0:25:29.160 the story of how we just robbed the seven eleven. 0:25:29.200 --> 0:25:31.600 I said, man, you should have seen Danielle and she 0:25:31.760 --> 0:25:34.200 was kicking to you, and after the clerk, she grabbed 0:25:34.280 --> 0:25:36.639 up all the twinkies. Here you want a twinkie? And 0:25:36.800 --> 0:25:41.800 you sat there and you were like, you didn't disagree. 0:25:41.800 --> 0:25:46.080 You didn't, you didn't distance yourself. My words would be 0:25:46.119 --> 0:25:50.600 admissible against you in court as an adoptive admission. And 0:25:50.720 --> 0:25:53.920 that was what Liz Cheney set up in her testimon 0:25:54.000 --> 0:25:57.879 in her questioning of Cassidy Hutchinson, Angle told the story. 0:25:58.880 --> 0:26:04.160 I'm sorry, uh Amorado told the story in Angel's presence. 0:26:04.720 --> 0:26:08.679 Angle did not disagree or correct or chime in or 0:26:08.800 --> 0:26:13.280 distance himself from the account of what just happened. So 0:26:13.640 --> 0:26:16.040 you know, listen, we can talk about the side show 0:26:16.200 --> 0:26:20.440 of what happened in the limo, but none of that, 0:26:20.840 --> 0:26:28.360 none of it the tracks from Cassidy Hutchinson's credibility. So finally, Glenn, 0:26:28.560 --> 0:26:35.080 here we are. We have had John Eastman's phone seized, 0:26:36.160 --> 0:26:40.200 h Clark was put out on Jeffrey Clark was put 0:26:40.200 --> 0:26:44.520 out on the street while his house was turned over. 0:26:46.400 --> 0:26:52.160 You have Mike Flynn, who wouldn't even admit that there 0:26:52.200 --> 0:26:56.680 should be a peaceful transfer of power. You. We now 0:26:56.760 --> 0:27:03.080 know Mark Meadows and Rudy Leani both asks for pardons. Right, 0:27:03.320 --> 0:27:10.359 according to Cassidy Hutchinson's report, how does the Department of 0:27:10.440 --> 0:27:15.280 Justice not move forward? And what do you think if 0:27:15.320 --> 0:27:18.640 they don't? I mean, democracy is done, as we've been 0:27:18.680 --> 0:27:23.880 saying for well over a year now. How do they 0:27:23.960 --> 0:27:27.040 move forward? What does that look like in the next 0:27:27.119 --> 0:27:29.280 couple of months? And again, I know it's not a 0:27:29.320 --> 0:27:32.000 political body, but I do know that we have midterm 0:27:32.040 --> 0:27:34.840 elections in five months. I do know that the Supreme 0:27:34.880 --> 0:27:38.520 Court has made it very clear what their new vision 0:27:38.800 --> 0:27:42.320 is of the new world order in America. So if 0:27:42.680 --> 0:27:46.720 the Department of Justice doesn't take action, what happens here? 0:27:48.800 --> 0:27:52.320 So if DAJ fails to indict Trump and all of 0:27:52.359 --> 0:27:57.080 his co conspirators, that will be a political decision. It 0:27:57.160 --> 0:28:00.080 will not be a decision based on the facts and 0:28:00.280 --> 0:28:04.879 the law, because the facts and the law support indicting 0:28:04.960 --> 0:28:08.040 Trump for his many crimes. I mean, not only do 0:28:08.080 --> 0:28:10.800 we have a federal judge who's already concluded by a 0:28:10.840 --> 0:28:14.159 preponderance of the evidence that Donald Trump committed the crime 0:28:14.480 --> 0:28:18.600 of obstructing an official proceeding the certification of Joe Biden's win. 0:28:18.880 --> 0:28:22.280