WEBVTT - WWE Counter Programming And Raja Jackson 0:00:00.320 --> 0:00:02.800 Hey, this is Brian Alvarez and this is today's edition 0:00:02.880 --> 0:00:06.640 of the Wrestling Observer Daily podcast on the eight Side Network, 0:00:12.600 --> 0:00:14.120 live from San Francisco. 0:00:14.240 --> 0:00:17.479 I'm a sports byline broadcasting network. You are listening to 0:00:17.600 --> 0:00:21.439 Wrestling Observer Live with your hosts Brian Alvarez and Mike 0:00:21.560 --> 0:00:24.200 sempervb Are you ready? 0:00:24.480 --> 0:00:25.360 Are you ready? 0:00:25.840 --> 0:00:26.720 Let's get it off. 0:00:29.520 --> 0:00:30.080 Going, everybody. 0:00:30.160 --> 0:00:33.800 Brian Alvarez here on Wrestling Observer Live. We are here 0:00:33.840 --> 0:00:36.479 every day Monday through Friday, New Pacific three Eastern and 0:00:36.560 --> 0:00:41.360 Sunday three Pacific, six Eastern Saturday Mornings with Jim Valley, 0:00:41.479 --> 0:00:44.240 Today Pacific one Eastern Sundays with andrews Arian. 0:00:44.720 --> 0:00:46.080 And it's Monday here on the show. 0:00:46.120 --> 0:00:51.040 And you know that means we got news about WWE counterprogramming. 0:00:52.120 --> 0:00:57.960 That's right, but they are not counterprogramming. Aw, they're actually 0:00:58.000 --> 0:01:01.760 counter programming this show here today. I think Raw is 0:01:01.840 --> 0:01:05.280 on right now, isn't it. So yeah, you can watch 0:01:05.360 --> 0:01:08.840 it or you can watch me. So what would you choose? 0:01:09.160 --> 0:01:10.960 We got the Raw lineup coming up for tonight, so 0:01:11.040 --> 0:01:12.800 go home show for Clash in Paris which is coming 0:01:12.880 --> 0:01:13.480 up this weekend. 0:01:13.959 --> 0:01:15.240 So we got a lot to talk about. 0:01:15.440 --> 0:01:18.840 There a lot of shows this weekend, including Forbidden Door 0:01:19.280 --> 0:01:23.520 and the heat Waves Show, but obviously the top story 0:01:24.160 --> 0:01:29.400 is what happened with Rajah Jackson, the son of Rampage 0:01:29.440 --> 0:01:34.840 At Jackson and independent pro wrestler Psycho stew We got 0:01:34.880 --> 0:01:36.720 a lot of news to talk about on this today, 0:01:36.920 --> 0:01:42.240 horrible story, and we got some updates on everything, so 0:01:42.240 --> 0:01:44.920 we're gonna talk about that, then we'll get into Forbidden 0:01:44.959 --> 0:01:50.080 Door and the NXT heat Wave Show. We got news 0:01:50.560 --> 0:01:55.280 talking new Japan Pro Wrestling and some changes to how 0:01:55.320 --> 0:02:00.640 things are done in aw storyline wise, that is, we 0:02:00.760 --> 0:02:04.160 got some international dates, a lot of other news to 0:02:04.200 --> 0:02:09.079 get into and uh, and that'll be today's show. Filthy 0:02:09.120 --> 0:02:11.400 Tom Lawler is going to join us. Looks like he's 0:02:11.520 --> 0:02:15.440 he's here. I should have confirmed that, but I just 0:02:15.480 --> 0:02:17.440 presumed he was going to be here. But there he is, 0:02:17.560 --> 0:02:19.240 So we'll have him on the show after the break 0:02:19.240 --> 0:02:22.520 and an update on his hip replacement surgery. 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Check it 0:05:49.960 --> 0:05:53.920 out two Pacific five Eastern every Wednesday, live on Sports 0:05:54.080 --> 0:05:55.480 Byline USA. 0:05:59.160 --> 0:06:02.680 You were listening to Wrestling Observer Live with Brian Alvarez 0:06:02.720 --> 0:06:06.400 and Mike Simpervivi on the Sports Byline Broadcasting Network. 0:06:09.320 --> 0:06:13.920 Back here on the show, I realize it's horrible that 0:06:14.000 --> 0:06:17.520 I just opened up this show laughing. But Tom sent 0:06:17.560 --> 0:06:21.000 me to his Twitter to see what was something that 0:06:21.040 --> 0:06:22.800 was not funny at all, which we're gonna get into 0:06:22.839 --> 0:06:26.880 in a moment. But as I was about to hit record, 0:06:27.080 --> 0:06:30.440 I scrolled a little further down and I saw the 0:06:30.480 --> 0:06:35.520 twenty twelve article you posted broke Tom Lawler gets forty 0:06:35.560 --> 0:06:39.039 grand Knockout of the Night bonus and UFC on fuel three. 0:06:39.440 --> 0:06:43.159 Wow, what a way to put you over you're broke. 0:06:43.760 --> 0:06:45.640 Well, the reason why that even happened is there was 0:06:45.720 --> 0:06:49.839 recently a fighter, Charles ener G Johnson, who, by the way, 0:06:50.320 --> 0:06:54.520 great nickname and even better haircut one A. He was 0:06:54.560 --> 0:06:57.400 an underdog, I believe this past weekend and won a 0:06:57.440 --> 0:07:02.120 big fight, got a bonus, and it was revealed that 0:07:02.160 --> 0:07:04.400 he was in the red in his bank account, and 0:07:04.839 --> 0:07:07.160 I was like, wait a minute, that actually happened to 0:07:07.200 --> 0:07:09.880 me in the past too, where I was in the red. 0:07:09.920 --> 0:07:11.960 I had to borrow money from one of my friends, 0:07:12.960 --> 0:07:15.120 Dan Fern, and. 0:07:15.240 --> 0:07:18.800 Did he work for NXT. 0:07:17.760 --> 0:07:20.800 No, okay, this is like a computer security guy. 0:07:20.960 --> 0:07:22.600 I just heard the name Dan Fern. 0:07:23.120 --> 0:07:27.240 I use an alias, ok. But anyways, I paid him 0:07:27.280 --> 0:07:30.200 back after the fight, just like this Charles Energy Johnson, 0:07:30.440 --> 0:07:31.880 fella is doing. 0:07:31.960 --> 0:07:32.080 So. 0:07:32.880 --> 0:07:35.280 I've been in the game for a while, Brian, I've 0:07:35.280 --> 0:07:36.880 been in the game not making any money for a 0:07:36.880 --> 0:07:37.520 long time. 0:07:37.760 --> 0:07:41.720 Well, you know you've kept at it, so congratulations. All right, 0:07:41.720 --> 0:07:44.200 we got to talk about a really serious situation. I 0:07:44.200 --> 0:07:47.640 don't want to joke about anything. So before we get 0:07:47.640 --> 0:07:50.480 into all of the updates today, in case some of 0:07:50.520 --> 0:07:55.239 you don't know what happened, there was a Knox Pro 0:07:55.280 --> 0:08:01.760 Wrestling show over the weekend, and to try to cut 0:08:01.800 --> 0:08:07.120 it down to like just the basics, Rajah Jackson, who's 0:08:07.160 --> 0:08:10.520 the son of Quentin Rampage Jackson. He went to the 0:08:10.560 --> 0:08:15.440 show with his video camera and he's got like a 0:08:15.480 --> 0:08:17.520 live stream that he does on. 0:08:19.000 --> 0:08:19.280 Kick. 0:08:19.440 --> 0:08:22.560 It's like the new one Kick, So he's like streaming 0:08:22.600 --> 0:08:26.720 on Kick. And before the show, he's in the back 0:08:27.280 --> 0:08:30.600 and all the wrestlers are hanging out and one of 0:08:30.640 --> 0:08:34.800 the wrestlers, Psycho Stu, goes up to him and he 0:08:35.320 --> 0:08:41.080 sees the camera and he presumes that Rajah Jackson is 0:08:41.120 --> 0:08:43.480 one of the workers, which he is not. He was 0:08:43.559 --> 0:08:46.400 just there at the show, and so they kind of 0:08:46.440 --> 0:08:48.640 do a little back and forth and Psycho asked him, 0:08:48.640 --> 0:08:50.439 you know who I am? And Roger's like, I don't 0:08:50.440 --> 0:08:52.599 know who you are. And Psycho thinks he's kind of 0:08:52.600 --> 0:08:55.160 messing with him because he thinks he's a worker. And 0:08:55.240 --> 0:08:57.880 so he's drinking a beer and he takes a beer 0:08:57.920 --> 0:09:00.240 can and he does like a a he crushes half 0:09:00.240 --> 0:09:04.120 the beer can on his on his head, and you know, 0:09:04.200 --> 0:09:06.760 Rajah Jackson later even he was like it didn't hurt, 0:09:07.600 --> 0:09:09.880 but he was mad because he didn't know why this 0:09:09.880 --> 0:09:13.000 guy hit him with a beer can. So he gets 0:09:13.040 --> 0:09:16.000 hot and all the other wrestlers kind of gather around 0:09:16.040 --> 0:09:19.040 and they're they're they start explaining to Stu, you know, 0:09:19.120 --> 0:09:22.559 this guy's he's not a worker, he's just here. And 0:09:22.840 --> 0:09:25.640 you know Raja's he's he's mad, and so they're trying 0:09:25.640 --> 0:09:27.520 to calm him down, and they're going, he thought you 0:09:27.559 --> 0:09:29.839 were a worker. He was just you know, we all 0:09:30.040 --> 0:09:34.120 mess around, we all and so Stu offers a handshake 0:09:34.920 --> 0:09:38.800 and Raja wants none of his handshake, and Stu apologizes. 0:09:38.840 --> 0:09:41.240 He says, I'm sorry, I'm sorry. 0:09:41.400 --> 0:09:41.600 You know. 0:09:42.040 --> 0:09:44.960 He offers a handshake. Rojer wants none of it. So 0:09:45.600 --> 0:09:52.160 the one of the co owners of Knox It's Rakishi's promotion, Reno, says, 0:09:52.160 --> 0:09:56.880 you know what, let's do a spot tonight in the match. 0:09:57.240 --> 0:09:59.240 You can get involved in the match. He doesn't say 0:09:59.280 --> 0:10:02.400 anything about what he he just says, let's let's get together. 0:10:02.120 --> 0:10:03.760 And work out a spot. Okay. 0:10:04.800 --> 0:10:10.440 So then this other guy, aj Mana, he basically says, 0:10:11.840 --> 0:10:13.679 you get in there tonight and you can get your 0:10:13.679 --> 0:10:17.400 receipt on this guy. And as soon as as Raja 0:10:17.480 --> 0:10:19.319 hears I'm gonna get my receipt on this guy, I'm 0:10:19.320 --> 0:10:21.559 gonna get to hit him back. And then he's like, oh, 0:10:21.640 --> 0:10:24.319 let's shake hands, and he's all, you know, he's supposedly 0:10:24.400 --> 0:10:28.920 cool with this. So you know, he's filming this, this 0:10:29.000 --> 0:10:31.200 whole thing. This is not like she said, he said, 0:10:31.200 --> 0:10:35.240 she said, He's filming this whole thing. It's on the internet, 0:10:35.960 --> 0:10:37.600 like as of last night. It may not be there 0:10:37.640 --> 0:10:39.839 now for legal reasons, but as of last night it 0:10:39.920 --> 0:10:41.240 was still there. You can go up and watch it. 0:10:41.720 --> 0:10:46.600 So for the next two hours, Raja is filming himself 0:10:47.320 --> 0:10:49.719 as he goes to sit down at the show, as 0:10:49.760 --> 0:10:53.760 he walks around backstage, as he as he literally explains 0:10:53.800 --> 0:10:56.440 into the camera, I'm gonna hit this guy for real, 0:10:57.480 --> 0:11:00.600 and he starts, he starts going on kick and everybody 0:11:00.640 --> 0:11:02.520 on Kick is telling him like, you can't stand for that. 0:11:02.559 --> 0:11:04.679 You got to stand up for yourself. And so over 0:11:04.720 --> 0:11:06.840 the next hour he's getting more and more hot. He 0:11:07.000 --> 0:11:11.199 just keeps reading this chat and you know he's he's 0:11:11.480 --> 0:11:14.160 over and over again you know, talking about I'm gonna 0:11:14.240 --> 0:11:16.680 hurt this guy. I'm not gonna hurt him too bad, 0:11:16.720 --> 0:11:19.800 he says. But it's not gonna be scripted when I 0:11:19.800 --> 0:11:23.680 get in there. And so eventually, you know, the match 0:11:23.760 --> 0:11:27.880 is taking place. He's sitting at ringside and he ends 0:11:27.960 --> 0:11:31.439 up he ends up flying into the ring. He grabs 0:11:31.440 --> 0:11:33.719 this guy who doesn't fight like the guy thinks it's 0:11:33.760 --> 0:11:36.840 just gonna be some spot stew and he picks this 0:11:36.920 --> 0:11:39.520 dude up and he does like the MMA slam. 0:11:39.760 --> 0:11:43.520 It was like the booker t oh my god, where's 0:11:43.559 --> 0:11:46.120 it the slam that he would do. It's like an 0:11:46.160 --> 0:11:47.679 over the shoulder spine bluster. 0:11:47.880 --> 0:11:50.240 Yeah, and he slams this guy and this guy looks 0:11:50.240 --> 0:11:52.360 like he's out immediately. I don't know if he's selling, 0:11:52.400 --> 0:11:54.760 but he looks like he's out. And then Raja jumps 0:11:54.800 --> 0:11:57.760 on this guy and he punches him as hard as 0:11:57.800 --> 0:12:00.080 he can, full force in the face. 0:12:00.400 --> 0:12:02.240 Twenty one times. 0:12:03.080 --> 0:12:06.720 Now as this is happening, and I listen, let me 0:12:06.840 --> 0:12:09.040 let me say this, Let me just say something, hold on, 0:12:09.160 --> 0:12:11.280 hold on, because I'm gonna I will. 0:12:11.440 --> 0:12:13.720 I will say what you're expecting. But I want to say. 0:12:13.600 --> 0:12:21.360 This first, initially, last night. I was somewhat defensive of 0:12:21.440 --> 0:12:25.720 the other wrestlers in the ring because we're all watching 0:12:25.800 --> 0:12:30.320 the footage. We know what happened, we know what to expect. 0:12:30.800 --> 0:12:35.000 Nobody in there did. Okay, there was one guy who 0:12:35.160 --> 0:12:38.800 within about three seconds, he tries to break this thing up. 0:12:39.320 --> 0:12:42.839 It doesn't work, and finally all of the other guys 0:12:42.840 --> 0:12:45.160 get in and they drag him off after twenty one punches, 0:12:45.840 --> 0:12:49.959 and I was I was sympathetic because none of them 0:12:50.000 --> 0:12:52.439 had the benefit of knowing what was gonna happen. I 0:12:52.440 --> 0:12:54.320 don't know if anyone even knew the guy was gonna 0:12:54.360 --> 0:12:58.040 run in. A lot of them were probably in shock. However, 0:12:59.679 --> 0:13:03.960 you posted a video on your Twitter today. 0:13:03.880 --> 0:13:05.760 I'm sending you the full two minutes that I have 0:13:05.880 --> 0:13:06.439 right now. 0:13:06.360 --> 0:13:12.480 That I was completely unaware of last night. So as 0:13:12.559 --> 0:13:16.400 he is being pulled off and like half of the 0:13:16.440 --> 0:13:18.880 wrestlers have bowled him into the corner to get him 0:13:18.920 --> 0:13:19.640 off the guy. 0:13:19.840 --> 0:13:24.600 One guy is throwing shoulder tackles, one guy hit him 0:13:24.640 --> 0:13:30.000 with like a fake bag like that. The restraint on 0:13:30.160 --> 0:13:33.720 Rajah Jackson left a lot to be decided. There was 0:13:33.800 --> 0:13:36.840 one gentleman the epic who I will give credit to. 0:13:36.960 --> 0:13:39.280 He was outside the ring, and he's the one that 0:13:39.400 --> 0:13:42.640 ran in and at least restrained Rajah. He was throwing 0:13:42.679 --> 0:13:44.600 head butts at him. That he was the only one 0:13:44.720 --> 0:13:45.800 that I would give any credit. 0:13:45.880 --> 0:13:48.200 That guy is a hero. Okay, that guy's a hero. 0:13:48.920 --> 0:13:54.600 Now the I am absolutely appalled, aghast a disgusted dude. 0:13:55.320 --> 0:13:56.400 As there we. 0:13:56.320 --> 0:13:59.040 Only saw in the light in the in the video 0:13:59.080 --> 0:14:02.559 that Rajah put up, we only saw him being bowled 0:14:02.600 --> 0:14:04.880 into the like he's being he's in the corner, he's 0:14:04.880 --> 0:14:07.080 being restrained or whatever. That's what we saw. We didn't 0:14:07.080 --> 0:14:10.600 see what's happening in the ring. I presumed like everybody 0:14:10.720 --> 0:14:13.800 was bulling him into the corner. You have an angle 0:14:15.000 --> 0:14:19.080 whereas he is laying there with blood pouring out of 0:14:19.120 --> 0:14:23.960 his head, in his ears, choking air, his teeth in 0:14:24.000 --> 0:14:29.920 his blood. Someone covers him and the ref counts the pin. 0:14:32.680 --> 0:14:34.040 Disgusting what. 0:14:37.320 --> 0:14:46.800 Somebody covered him and the ref counted the pin. Yes, 0:14:47.200 --> 0:14:49.680 the ref counted the pin. The video is up on 0:14:49.760 --> 0:14:50.520 Tom's Twitter. 0:14:50.760 --> 0:14:53.680 Timmy Handsome is the ring name of the man who 0:14:53.920 --> 0:14:57.080 pinned Psycho. 0:14:57.120 --> 0:15:03.280 STU mean, go after Rajah. 0:15:04.160 --> 0:15:06.840 This is your first reaction is to pin the guy 0:15:07.560 --> 0:15:09.960 whose call was this was it his call. Did somebody 0:15:10.040 --> 0:15:11.840 tell them get on top of him and pin them? 0:15:11.920 --> 0:15:14.680 End it? What is going on here? And people are 0:15:14.720 --> 0:15:18.280 going ah, people are arguing with me saying I don't 0:15:18.320 --> 0:15:23.040 know the unwritten rules of wrestling. The show must go on. Listen, buddy, 0:15:23.200 --> 0:15:26.840 what about the rules of life? Okay, there's no hold 0:15:26.840 --> 0:15:29.440 on before you go, before you go into the rules 0:15:29.480 --> 0:15:30.120 of life? 0:15:30.320 --> 0:15:34.280 Who is telling you, like, listen, hey, if you want 0:15:34.320 --> 0:15:38.080 to tell me, okay, like, hey, I was a pro wrestler, 0:15:38.520 --> 0:15:42.720 but you're a pro wrestler and a UFC fighter. So 0:15:43.040 --> 0:15:46.520 who's telling you that you don't understand the rules of 0:15:46.640 --> 0:15:50.200 either business? Stand by Observer Life. 0:15:53.880 --> 0:15:57.360 You were listening to Wrestling Observer Life with Brian Alvarez 0:15:57.440 --> 0:16:01.120 and Mike simperviv on the Sports Bylineting Network. 0:16:02.440 --> 0:16:03.680 Right, I'm gonna let you go off. 0:16:03.720 --> 0:16:07.000 Don't swear, but I want to say one thing before 0:16:07.000 --> 0:16:11.800 we go any further. And that is as appalled as 0:16:11.880 --> 0:16:14.200 I was with that spot where the guy covered in 0:16:14.200 --> 0:16:18.320 the referee counted the pin. I do think that we 0:16:18.720 --> 0:16:25.160 need to remember what happened and who did what. You 0:16:25.160 --> 0:16:27.920 know what I'm saying, like, you can get mad at 0:16:27.960 --> 0:16:31.440 those guys all you want okay, but there's one guy 0:16:31.480 --> 0:16:36.080 who hit the ring and like did what he did, 0:16:36.120 --> 0:16:37.640 and that's that's Rajah Jackson. 0:16:37.680 --> 0:16:38.320 Now go ahead. 0:16:39.680 --> 0:16:42.440 Yeah, And by the same token, I've had a lot 0:16:42.480 --> 0:16:47.000 of people because I watched a portion of that hour 0:16:47.160 --> 0:16:49.800 forty five minute video that Roger Jackson had up or 0:16:49.840 --> 0:16:51.600 whatever it was, as I did, and I mean, he 0:16:51.680 --> 0:16:54.680 was disrespectful from the very beginning when he showed up 0:16:54.960 --> 0:16:56.960 kind of towards the whole event, I don't have tickets, 0:16:57.000 --> 0:17:00.360 blah blah, blah blah. He's trash talking his butty, which 0:17:00.400 --> 0:17:03.000 is you know, that's one thing, but then you know, 0:17:03.360 --> 0:17:06.320 talking about how he's gonna hit him for real. I mean, 0:17:06.400 --> 0:17:10.679 the entire thing is awful. But we had aj Mana, 0:17:10.760 --> 0:17:12.880 who I think is the one that brought him in, 0:17:13.160 --> 0:17:16.399 that brought Rajah Jackson to the show, a self proclaimed 0:17:16.680 --> 0:17:23.440 MMA fighter, stuntman actor, obviously a professional wrestler, here telling 0:17:23.880 --> 0:17:26.960 Rajah Jackson to get his receipt. You know what a 0:17:27.000 --> 0:17:30.280 receipt is, get a receipt, tag him. You know what, 0:17:30.720 --> 0:17:34.439 if they don't like it, I'll come out there. So 0:17:34.520 --> 0:17:37.160 he's already hyping him up, as you said on kick 0:17:37.520 --> 0:17:41.320 These twelve and fifteen year old kids are egging Amon 0:17:41.880 --> 0:17:45.400 to go fight, and he gets in the ring. He 0:17:45.440 --> 0:17:51.359 does that, and people are Any sort of vindication that 0:17:51.400 --> 0:17:54.760 people have for him, any sort of like backing, should 0:17:54.800 --> 0:17:57.520 be out the window. This man is an adult. He's 0:17:57.600 --> 0:18:00.880 twenty five years old. If Brian told me to go 0:18:00.920 --> 0:18:05.520 shoot on somebody that at the Christmas party, that doesn't 0:18:05.520 --> 0:18:08.200 give me carte blanche to do it. There's still repercussions 0:18:08.200 --> 0:18:10.480 that you have to face. And when I look at it, 0:18:10.520 --> 0:18:14.280 I've got to imagine this guy has never faced any repercussions. 0:18:14.359 --> 0:18:17.919 There's a video of Rampage Jackson just days ago on 0:18:18.200 --> 0:18:23.760 kick saying, you know what, I saved up money for 0:18:23.920 --> 0:18:26.600 my Asian kids to go to college, and I saved 0:18:26.680 --> 0:18:31.600 up money to bail Rajah Jackson out right, Yes, I 0:18:31.640 --> 0:18:33.639 mean we have it right there. 0:18:33.800 --> 0:18:36.359 This was before anything, before anything. 0:18:36.520 --> 0:18:41.840 Rampage Jackson afterwards makes a statement saying Psycho Stu's okay, 0:18:42.040 --> 0:18:44.200 which apparently I don't know where he got that information, 0:18:44.240 --> 0:18:46.639 because that does not seem to be the case. What 0:18:46.760 --> 0:18:50.560 I understand. He was in critical care according to his brother, 0:18:51.080 --> 0:18:54.320 and one of the biggest, one of the biggest concerns 0:18:54.760 --> 0:18:57.080 that Rampage Jackson has and all of his videos which 0:18:57.080 --> 0:18:58.879 you see over and over and over and over again. 0:18:59.040 --> 0:19:02.440 And hey, I'm a parent, I don't know how I 0:19:02.480 --> 0:19:04.800 would react if my son did something like this. I 0:19:04.840 --> 0:19:07.400 would be concerned for him, for sure. But he keeps 0:19:07.440 --> 0:19:10.359 asking is he gonna get kicked off off Kick? Is 0:19:10.359 --> 0:19:12.440 he gonna lose his account? Is he gonna get banned 0:19:12.440 --> 0:19:18.640 from Kick? Very little care for what happened to Psycho Stu. Now, 0:19:20.640 --> 0:19:26.159 Psycho Stu, I mean, I don't condone walking up to 0:19:26.200 --> 0:19:30.040 somebody and who's unprepared, you don't know, and whacking him 0:19:30.040 --> 0:19:34.960 in the head with a beer can or whatever it was, 0:19:34.960 --> 0:19:37.480 a soda can. Now clearly he was doing it in 0:19:37.520 --> 0:19:41.119 a worked manner. He thought that Raj Jackson was in 0:19:41.240 --> 0:19:44.480 on it. But this also, I mean, it's just a 0:19:44.480 --> 0:19:48.280 perfect storm of events that led to this. And then 0:19:48.920 --> 0:19:52.919 Raj Jackson leaves the guy who is dressed like a 0:19:52.960 --> 0:19:55.760 clown and a baseball outfit who was tackling him and 0:19:55.800 --> 0:19:59.040 throwing shoulder blocks in the corner. That guy gives chase 0:19:59.080 --> 0:20:01.879 to him, go after him, and then cuts a promo 0:20:02.000 --> 0:20:05.080 on him, cuts a promo on Rampage Jackson in front 0:20:05.119 --> 0:20:08.080 of the fans. That was, you know, one of his 0:20:08.160 --> 0:20:11.560 first actions not to go care for psychostu, not to 0:20:11.600 --> 0:20:15.440 go calm things down in the locker room and help there. 0:20:16.480 --> 0:20:20.800 Just a miss on so many levels. This was mishandled 0:20:20.920 --> 0:20:24.800 so so badly across the board. One of the worst 0:20:24.840 --> 0:20:29.439 things I have ever seen in professional wrestling or MMA 0:20:30.280 --> 0:20:33.240 for that matter. You know this, this man is supposed 0:20:33.240 --> 0:20:36.720 to be a trained fighter, he's owned one as a professional, 0:20:37.119 --> 0:20:42.600 but he brandishes himself as an MMA fighter. We we. 0:20:44.080 --> 0:20:46.120 Like it, as I mean, all the faults. 0:20:45.800 --> 0:20:48.520 We see a fighters, we don't see this very often. 0:20:49.280 --> 0:20:52.879 You mentioned this whole situation was mishandled, and you're correct, 0:20:53.359 --> 0:20:55.440 but like I want to, I want to point out 0:20:55.440 --> 0:20:58.960 that like you almost can't even say mishandled because there's 0:20:58.960 --> 0:21:01.359 nothing handled about it. Like I don't think of that 0:21:01.600 --> 0:21:06.680 entire stream there was like anybody. 0:21:05.600 --> 0:21:10.480 That told anybody what was gonna happen, Like I. 0:21:10.480 --> 0:21:13.119 Don't remember anybody him having any conversations about this is 0:21:13.160 --> 0:21:16.160 the spot that we're gonna do or whatever, Like he 0:21:16.240 --> 0:21:18.399 literally was just told go in and get your receipt. 0:21:19.000 --> 0:21:23.120 And you know, again, I'm still appalled by the cover 0:21:23.200 --> 0:21:23.760 and the pin. 0:21:23.680 --> 0:21:24.440 And everything like that. 0:21:24.520 --> 0:21:26.960 But I mean, I don't have any indication that anybody 0:21:27.000 --> 0:21:29.640 in the ring knew what was gonna happen. I mean, 0:21:30.080 --> 0:21:34.280 this dude, they who knows what anybody thought? There was 0:21:34.359 --> 0:21:36.520 no like, hey, no one thought this is what we're 0:21:36.560 --> 0:21:39.080 gonna do. This guy's gonna do this. 0:21:39.359 --> 0:21:41.080 You guys do that, you know? Make sure. 0:21:41.119 --> 0:21:43.399 I'm not even sure those guys were told. He said, 0:21:44.040 --> 0:21:46.080 I'm just gonna keep hitting him till I get pulled off. 0:21:47.200 --> 0:21:49.480 I don't remember seeing any indication that the other guys 0:21:49.480 --> 0:21:50.680 were told to pull the guy off. 0:21:50.880 --> 0:21:52.600 It was like it was like the Wild West. 0:21:52.640 --> 0:21:54.000 Hey, you know what, We're gonna have a match, just 0:21:54.000 --> 0:21:56.199 like you hit the ring and get your receipt and 0:21:56.200 --> 0:21:59.159 then like, you know whatever. It's like, where was I 0:21:59.160 --> 0:22:05.119 don't know, man, this whole thing right now Psychos. According 0:22:05.160 --> 0:22:08.600 to his brother Andrew Smith, says that he is in 0:22:08.800 --> 0:22:13.080 stable but critical care. So one of the wrestlers in 0:22:13.160 --> 0:22:16.760 an interview I think with like USA today, I've got 0:22:16.800 --> 0:22:20.560 it here somewhere, but he basically said that Stu was 0:22:20.600 --> 0:22:25.760 on his way home. Mallow it's his first name. 0:22:28.040 --> 0:22:28.879 Where is it here? 0:22:29.280 --> 0:22:31.960 Douglas Molow, one of the wrestlers who attended to intervene. 0:22:32.040 --> 0:22:34.439 Hold on, hold on, Brian Bryan because because this is 0:22:34.520 --> 0:22:41.000 kind of off topic. When this happens, Roger Jackson gets 0:22:41.000 --> 0:22:43.000 a call, He gets a call from somebody at the 0:22:43.040 --> 0:22:45.280 show who says, man, you should have done that, you 0:22:45.280 --> 0:22:48.119 should have gone that far. He's in the ring flatlining 0:22:48.760 --> 0:22:56.720 and do you remember what Rogar Jackson said. 0:22:52.960 --> 0:22:54.800 My bad, I got a call. 0:22:56.119 --> 0:22:59.480 Uh, I'll call you back. What. 0:23:00.119 --> 0:23:04.639