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Speaker 3: And welcome to the Drive. I am Dale Lolly, he

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Speaker 3: is the Matt Williamson. And it is a rainy Thursday

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Speaker 3: here in Pittsburgh, ENnie, rainy day in Pittsburgh. But we

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I guess it would be Thursday night. Okay, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: coming down the home stretch here, and folks, the league's

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Speaker 1: not going to be real active over these three weeks.

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Speaker 1: And it's just the way it is. I mean, these

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Speaker 1: draft board is one of the most important things you

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Speaker 1: it out. And that there's not gonna be a ton

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Speaker 1: of activity. Well that Steelers might sign a quarterback, but who.

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Speaker 3: Knows, Yeah, that could happen. You also get your final

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Speaker 3: pre draft visits in yeah, and to that end, the

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Speaker 3: Steelers did have four people did that I didn't see today, Okay,

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Speaker 3: come in the draft visits today were Texas wide receiver

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Speaker 3: Thomas Okay, he fits. Iowa running back Caleb Johnson.

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Speaker 1: Okay, also a good zone runner. And then a local

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Speaker 1: visit from Pitt tight end Gevin bartholemew you might as

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Speaker 1: well have him when you had Ben sols In. Yeah, right,

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Speaker 1: and Bartholom you might be your sixth round pick. I mean,

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Speaker 3: Three years from now he's a free agent. Absolutely, yeah,

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Speaker 3: we like him.

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Speaker 1: Golden, it would have to be a first round pick.

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Speaker 3: I have the only one of that group that would

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Speaker 1: I mean, I guess it could happen. I mean I

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Speaker 1: That yeah, yeah, absolutely, So that those all add.

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Speaker 3: Up, and that's you know when you look at a

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Speaker 3: they're not going to happen. Like somebody when I started

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Speaker 3: you know, they're not bringing any any defensive tackles.

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Speaker 1: I'm like, they've how many first round type guys they

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Speaker 3: Yeah, they've only brought in thus far, like twelve guys

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Speaker 3: right right, right, And I know people have reported this

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Speaker 3: They may have scheduled thirty eight forty visits.

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Speaker 3: But because you try to match these things up and

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Speaker 1: Pulled all over the country. I mean the players do, right,

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Speaker 1: when you're locked down the war room. Yeah, you might

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Speaker 3: And they don't always bring in their first round guy.

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Speaker 3: To leaves typically some of those later round guys. If

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Speaker 3: Sometimes it just works out that way. So that was

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Speaker 1: You wouldn't look too much into Golden, though, would you.

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Speaker 3: I think you're just crossing your y's and dotting your

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Speaker 1: Again, if Pickens were to move and things were to

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Speaker 1: Yeah, my hunches. They like him a lot, as they should.

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Speaker 3: We also had a trade today in the NFL. Yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 1: Of the round one end of the round, yeah, for.

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Speaker 3: So a difference of forty five picks is where that's up.

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Speaker 1: their offense coordinator is Josh McDaniels. I mean that was

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Speaker 1: Exactly last year. Exactly. It's a low risk, throw them

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Speaker 3: Them athletically, their profiles are similar yeah, yeah, right, right right,

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Speaker 1: Right right, Like now you can see the appeal in both.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, doesn't mean the real The real thing was that

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Speaker 3: Trey Lance was way overdrafted by the forty nine ers.

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Speaker 3: He should have never been a third round picking, No,

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Speaker 1: When it was talked about him, like there's not much

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Speaker 3: Yeah, he had two hundred and fifty career passes in

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Speaker 1: that's all he cost, Steelers should have got Milton fine.

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Speaker 1: That's That's all that would mean to me, is.

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Speaker 3: It would be the trading for their future starter there.

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Speaker 1: It wouldn't take them out of the mill Roe conversation.

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Speaker 1: Milton would be the third guy. He'd be like Scott Thompson.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you know what I mean, like maybe battling Skyler

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Speaker 1: What would happen if they drafted someone of course? Yeah,

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Speaker 3: Kevin Patra on NFL dot Com kind of ran through

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Speaker 3: all the offseason trades. Look, I've seen I just wanted

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Speaker 1: I'm sure we can forget a bunch of them.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you had to course the Geno Smith trade.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, they extended him that.

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Speaker 3: They just extended him. It was like eighty five and

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Speaker 3: You had the course to Kenny Pickett, Dorian Thompson, Robinson

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Speaker 1: Looking more and more like Sanders won't go number two either.

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Speaker 3: At running back, you had Jordan Mason going to the

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Speaker 3: the Deebo Samuel trade going to the forty nine ers

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Speaker 1: No, I say, not too pricey.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, the DK Metcalf trade. Yeah, and that ends up

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Speaker 3: being I don't know if we ever went through all

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Speaker 3: the numbers here. So the Steelers got DK Metcalf and

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Speaker 1: Yeah. I know that's not a huge deal, but I

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Speaker 1: stress it all the time that almost every deal Omar makes,

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Speaker 3: It was a seventh round or seventh or yeah, seventh

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Speaker 1: Yes, m that's just peas starting.

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Speaker 3: You're in trade depth right right right on the defensive line.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, another one is going to be a dump, you know, like, yeah,

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Speaker 1: I'm the Steelers.

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Speaker 1: There them off the books to a former first round pick.

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Speaker 1: The UH Cowboys had a real off season of getting

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Speaker 3: The next one is kyer Elam.

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Speaker 1: No, okay was the only one. Now.

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Speaker 3: They get cornerback kyer Elam from Buffalo and a twenty

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Speaker 1: Kind of a glorified pick swop. Yeah, I mean a

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Speaker 1: lot of these are six for a seventh. This one

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Speaker 1: I mean, first round pick that has not done hardly

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Speaker 1: There's just always a demand. Yeah. I mean, whether it's

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, just somebody liked him at some point.

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Speaker 1: Absolutely. I mean this this the green uh Kenyon from

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Speaker 3: But the Texans, uh, just just sweeping out the entire line.

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Speaker 3: Well, it's really it's what the Steelers have done over

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Speaker 1: One right, and like you got to go trade boom,

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Speaker 3: Let's get too aggressive though, Yeah, it is aggressive. Let's

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Speaker 3: And welcome back. I am Dale LOLLI he is the

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Speaker 3: Matt Williamson and Matt Daniel Jeremiah has updated his top fifty.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, a lot of these guys, like Tommy Shade at

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Speaker 1: are putting in their final answers. We're getting the beast

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Speaker 1: here in a few days. Another publication I like a lot.

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Speaker 1: Matt Waldman does a rookie scouting portfolio that came out yesterday,

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Speaker 1: like putting in these draftnicks are putting in their final

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Speaker 1: I mean, there's I think Colorado is a pro day

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Speaker 3: By the way yesterday I said that they had had

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Speaker 3: Anyways, So Daniel Jeremies updated that top fifty. He has

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Speaker 3: Abdull Carter number one overall in his rankings, Travis Hunter

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Speaker 3: number two.

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Speaker 1: Okay, Hunter to me is clearly one, but fair enough.

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Speaker 3: Ashton genty number three.

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Speaker 1: Yes, Gent, you would probably be my two head of

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Speaker 1: Carter Carter three.

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Speaker 3: He has Mason Graham the defensive tackle Adam Michigan.

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Speaker 1: Number four seems rich, but I also think it reflects

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Speaker 1: what this draft class is. I don't think most years

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Speaker 3: At five up to spots for him is Jaylen Walker.

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Speaker 1: The ed rusher at league seems to love him, and

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Speaker 1: I get that. And again I think a really innovative,

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Speaker 1: do all kinds of stuff with them. There aren't many

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Speaker 3: And at six is Tyler Warren down a spot, tight

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Speaker 1: I get it.

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Speaker 3: At seven down a spot is Colston Loveland.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, tight end.

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Speaker 1: Gaps between them is pretty tight. I think it depends

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Speaker 3: At eight up two spots is cam Ward.

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Speaker 1: I probably would have had him a little higher. I

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Speaker 3: At nine up three spots, gee, Hud Campbell, the linebacker

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Speaker 1: He's a lot like Walker. One's a line one called linebacker,

441
00:19:46,040 --> 00:19:48,080
Speaker 1: one's called an edge. But they kind of look the

442
00:19:48,080 --> 00:19:49,280
Speaker 1: same and do the same stuff.

443
00:19:50,040 --> 00:19:53,120
Speaker 3: At ten down a spot is Will Campbell, the offensive

444
00:19:53,119 --> 00:19:54,560
Speaker 3: tackle from LSU.

445
00:19:54,840 --> 00:19:58,879
Speaker 1: Fine. I mean again, I think he's a tackle. But

446
00:19:58,920 --> 00:20:00,920
Speaker 1: if he isn't he he's not going to be a bust.

447
00:20:01,400 --> 00:20:02,760
Speaker 3: Yeah, he's gonna play that right.

448
00:20:02,840 --> 00:20:03,080
Speaker 1: Yeah.

449
00:20:03,760 --> 00:20:06,640
Speaker 3: At eleven down three spots is Johday Barron, the cornerback

450
00:20:06,680 --> 00:20:08,080
Speaker 3: from Texas.

451
00:20:08,119 --> 00:20:08,920
Speaker 1: Totally makes sense.

452
00:20:10,080 --> 00:20:14,240
Speaker 3: At twelve down a spot is Armand Membo, Missouri offensive tackle.

453
00:20:14,320 --> 00:20:16,600
Speaker 1: I prefer him to Campbell, but not by a tongue.

454
00:20:17,119 --> 00:20:20,639
Speaker 3: At thirteen is Amari and Hampton, the North Carolina running back.

455
00:20:20,680 --> 00:20:21,720
Speaker 3: That's up a spot.

456
00:20:22,040 --> 00:20:26,080
Speaker 1: Okay, solid down a spot is one spot is Will Johnson,

457
00:20:26,160 --> 00:20:28,600
Speaker 1: the cornerback from Michigan. He still hasn't run.

458
00:20:28,680 --> 00:20:30,960
Speaker 3: Huh No, he's supposed to run closer to the.

459
00:20:31,160 --> 00:20:33,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, to the draft. There's a couple of questions still

460
00:20:33,480 --> 00:20:36,040
Speaker 1: looming on some of these top guys, especially corner.

461
00:20:35,960 --> 00:20:40,600
Speaker 3: At fifteen up four spots. Nick Muwari, the South Carolina safety.

462
00:20:42,160 --> 00:20:45,400
Speaker 3: I worry that he's gonna get overdrafted on trades. Yeah,

463
00:20:45,800 --> 00:20:48,400
Speaker 3: I mean the tape does not match the trades.

464
00:20:48,520 --> 00:20:51,399
Speaker 1: No. No, I mean sure when he closes, he's big

465
00:20:51,440 --> 00:20:54,440
Speaker 1: and wow and all that, but he's not a super

466
00:20:54,480 --> 00:20:55,520
Speaker 1: well rounded safety.

467
00:20:55,640 --> 00:20:56,120
Speaker 4: Yeah.

468
00:20:56,600 --> 00:20:59,439
Speaker 3: Sixteen down a spot is Matthew Golden, who was in

469
00:20:59,440 --> 00:21:00,720
Speaker 3: the visit with the Steelers today.

470
00:21:00,760 --> 00:21:02,320
Speaker 1: Okay, I might have him higher.

471
00:21:03,040 --> 00:21:06,159
Speaker 3: Seventeen holding steady as a Mecca a Mecca Eggbuca.

472
00:21:06,520 --> 00:21:09,119
Speaker 1: Wow, that's remarkably high for me.

473
00:21:09,200 --> 00:21:11,040
Speaker 3: Here's the thing about him. I know a lot of

474
00:21:11,080 --> 00:21:12,439
Speaker 3: Steeler fans love him and all that.

475
00:21:12,640 --> 00:21:14,280
Speaker 1: I get it right, Ohio State's always on he.

476
00:21:14,359 --> 00:21:18,960
Speaker 3: He's never been the number one receiver. He's off on

477
00:21:19,040 --> 00:21:21,520
Speaker 3: his college team at any time.

478
00:21:21,560 --> 00:21:24,040
Speaker 1: At best of two. I mean there's times when he's

479
00:21:24,080 --> 00:21:30,480
Speaker 1: behind you know, Smith, Najigba and hardline. I'm not saying hardline, yeah, Harrison.

480
00:21:30,760 --> 00:21:31,760
Speaker 1: I'm not saying he's a.

481
00:21:31,720 --> 00:21:34,439
Speaker 3: Bad player, no, not at all. But I think his

482
00:21:34,600 --> 00:21:38,879
Speaker 3: ceiling is profiles as a number two guy. On a

483
00:21:38,920 --> 00:21:40,240
Speaker 3: pro team, and I think he's a.

484
00:21:40,200 --> 00:21:42,920
Speaker 1: Slot Yeah, I do too. He's good with the ball

485
00:21:42,920 --> 00:21:44,879
Speaker 1: in his hands. He's not bad at anything. It's just

486
00:21:45,280 --> 00:21:47,560
Speaker 1: and this is going to sound underwhelming, and that don't

487
00:21:47,600 --> 00:21:49,040
Speaker 1: mean it to be because it shouldn't be. But like

488
00:21:49,200 --> 00:21:50,160
Speaker 1: he's Robert Woods.

489
00:21:50,480 --> 00:21:51,639
Speaker 3: Yeah that's good, that's fine.

490
00:21:52,000 --> 00:21:54,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, your career probably went to a Pro Bowl or two.

491
00:21:54,840 --> 00:21:56,200
Speaker 1: If you picked him in the first round, you're not

492
00:21:56,280 --> 00:21:58,919
Speaker 1: mad about it. But Woods, Yeah, you know.

493
00:21:59,320 --> 00:22:02,760
Speaker 3: Eighteen down two spots is Ted McMillan, the wide receiver

494
00:22:02,840 --> 00:22:03,520
Speaker 3: from Arizona.

495
00:22:04,480 --> 00:22:06,080
Speaker 1: I saw an interview with him. They were asking him

496
00:22:06,080 --> 00:22:09,119
Speaker 1: about tape watching. He was just kind of like, I

497
00:22:09,160 --> 00:22:12,960
Speaker 1: don't really watch tape, Like it's not a great look. Dude. Yeah,

498
00:22:13,000 --> 00:22:15,440
Speaker 1: I mean, but that happens. I mean he's so big

499
00:22:15,480 --> 00:22:18,480
Speaker 1: and strong and just ask compared to his he doesn't

500
00:22:18,520 --> 00:22:19,840
Speaker 1: have to. Well, you're gonna have to.

501
00:22:20,680 --> 00:22:25,800
Speaker 3: At nineteen down a spot is Shador Sanders.

502
00:22:26,280 --> 00:22:29,159
Speaker 1: Okay. I think he's going to be a starter. We

503
00:22:29,200 --> 00:22:32,760
Speaker 1: don't often say good things about him. I mean, I

504
00:22:32,800 --> 00:22:36,080
Speaker 1: think he profiles as a starting quarterback for a long time.

505
00:22:36,800 --> 00:22:38,400
Speaker 1: I just don't think the ceiling's there.

506
00:22:38,600 --> 00:22:40,120
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's not special.

507
00:22:40,200 --> 00:22:42,399
Speaker 1: Starter, right, right. I mean, I really think if he

508
00:22:42,440 --> 00:22:44,920
Speaker 1: turns into Gino Smith, he should be very happy. Gino

509
00:22:45,000 --> 00:22:45,600
Speaker 1: is a good player.

510
00:22:45,840 --> 00:22:47,280
Speaker 3: Took Gino a while to get there.

511
00:22:47,200 --> 00:22:49,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean this version of Geno, I mean, yeah,

512
00:22:49,440 --> 00:22:51,480
Speaker 1: without the rocky road to get there.

513
00:22:51,680 --> 00:22:51,920
Speaker 3: Yeah.

514
00:22:51,920 --> 00:22:52,280
Speaker 1: I just.

515
00:22:53,840 --> 00:22:55,080
Speaker 3: I don't even know if I would have him at

516
00:22:55,160 --> 00:22:56,560
Speaker 3: nineteen overall.

517
00:22:56,200 --> 00:22:57,840
Speaker 1: I'm not sure I would either. I really think he's

518
00:22:57,840 --> 00:22:59,120
Speaker 1: a second round player.

519
00:22:59,080 --> 00:23:02,520
Speaker 3: Yeah, I know, in the first round, right, And so,

520
00:23:03,160 --> 00:23:07,200
Speaker 3: like today or yesterday, I guess it was Adam Schefter

521
00:23:07,320 --> 00:23:10,600
Speaker 3: goes on his podcast, which he might have been taping

522
00:23:10,640 --> 00:23:12,280
Speaker 3: while we were there, because he was on the table.

523
00:23:13,200 --> 00:23:15,280
Speaker 3: He was at the table when we were packing up.

524
00:23:15,560 --> 00:23:18,880
Speaker 3: He was sitting down at the end of the where

525
00:23:18,920 --> 00:23:21,040
Speaker 3: the radio row was by himself done there, so I

526
00:23:21,119 --> 00:23:24,080
Speaker 3: guess that's probably where he was taping it. And he

527
00:23:24,160 --> 00:23:28,600
Speaker 3: said that if Shodoor Sanders gets past Cleveland, which is

528
00:23:28,640 --> 00:23:32,280
Speaker 3: looking more and more likely, the next two landing spots

529
00:23:32,280 --> 00:23:35,359
Speaker 3: for him would be New Orleans and Pittsburgh. And he

530
00:23:35,480 --> 00:23:40,720
Speaker 3: said that Sanders would be the only quarterback to Steelers

531
00:23:40,720 --> 00:23:43,480
Speaker 3: would consider in the first round, not including Ward who's

532
00:23:43,520 --> 00:23:46,080
Speaker 3: not going to be there. People took that well. The

533
00:23:46,080 --> 00:23:49,080
Speaker 3: Steelers might draft Should or Sanders. I look at it

534
00:23:49,080 --> 00:23:51,480
Speaker 3: the other way. Yeah, yeah, it's more like what we've

535
00:23:51,520 --> 00:23:55,280
Speaker 3: been saying, and Adam didn't say. What Adam didn't say

536
00:23:55,520 --> 00:23:58,160
Speaker 3: was they're not taking Jackson Dart in the first round.

537
00:23:58,040 --> 00:23:59,919
Speaker 1: Means they're not taking Dark. Yeah. If they're only can

538
00:24:00,000 --> 00:24:02,280
Speaker 1: considering considering.

539
00:24:02,000 --> 00:24:05,600
Speaker 3: Should, they would consider Sanders. I would agree, I would

540
00:24:05,600 --> 00:24:07,720
Speaker 3: consider Sanders at twenty one.

541
00:24:07,600 --> 00:24:09,560
Speaker 1: When we do our twenty one. I think he'll be

542
00:24:09,600 --> 00:24:13,320
Speaker 1: in my twenty one. Yeah, but unlikely to get drafted because.

543
00:24:13,080 --> 00:24:16,879
Speaker 3: He'll be I'll have somebody else ahead of him, ahead of.

544
00:24:16,920 --> 00:24:19,640
Speaker 1: Him or somebody like that. You know, it's more likely.

545
00:24:19,480 --> 00:24:21,720
Speaker 3: To Jackson Dart will not be in my twenty one.

546
00:24:21,880 --> 00:24:24,560
Speaker 1: I do think it'll be super interesting though, if Sanders

547
00:24:24,600 --> 00:24:27,439
Speaker 1: gets past the Giants. He didn't mention the Giants as

548
00:24:27,440 --> 00:24:29,600
Speaker 1: at Landing Squad. Maybe they're out on them too. Maybe

549
00:24:29,640 --> 00:24:31,680
Speaker 1: they just say if Hunters there, I'm taking them, which

550
00:24:31,680 --> 00:24:36,800
Speaker 1: I would totally get. But would teams like, would the

551
00:24:36,880 --> 00:24:40,680
Speaker 1: Raiders consider them? I mean, Adam, they just extended Gino.

552
00:24:40,720 --> 00:24:43,119
Speaker 1: I would think not. I bet they end up like

553
00:24:43,200 --> 00:24:46,600
Speaker 1: Howard or somebody like that has Ohio State Kelly connection.

554
00:24:47,200 --> 00:24:50,439
Speaker 1: But I just think it'll be interesting because it should

555
00:24:50,480 --> 00:24:54,480
Speaker 1: really add to the first round trade action if you

556
00:24:54,520 --> 00:24:57,240
Speaker 1: see one, like I can see the Browns really selling

557
00:24:57,280 --> 00:24:57,920
Speaker 1: out to get them.

558
00:24:58,160 --> 00:25:01,000
Speaker 3: I could see the Saints moving back a little bit.

559
00:25:02,160 --> 00:25:03,639
Speaker 1: They're the hardest organization.

560
00:25:03,359 --> 00:25:06,600
Speaker 3: Understand, and somebody wanting to come up and get Shed

561
00:25:06,720 --> 00:25:08,760
Speaker 3: or Sanders. I don't know who that team would be though,

562
00:25:08,800 --> 00:25:10,200
Speaker 3: like whoo who would move back?

563
00:25:10,240 --> 00:25:12,440
Speaker 1: I can see the Sanders or the Saints tegum at nine.

564
00:25:13,400 --> 00:25:14,760
Speaker 1: I mean, they don't really have answers.

565
00:25:15,080 --> 00:25:21,160
Speaker 3: Or how about this? San Francisco says, you know what,

566
00:25:21,960 --> 00:25:24,160
Speaker 3: we're not playing. We're not gonna We're not gonna pay party.

567
00:25:24,160 --> 00:25:26,760
Speaker 3: We're gonna let him play out this year. We're gonna

568
00:25:26,800 --> 00:25:31,239
Speaker 3: draft shod Or Sanders at eleven, groom him, let him

569
00:25:31,240 --> 00:25:33,199
Speaker 3: sit for a year behind he.

570
00:25:33,359 --> 00:25:34,880
Speaker 1: Was sort of a punt year for them.

571
00:25:35,040 --> 00:25:36,880
Speaker 3: He would actually fit in that system.

572
00:25:36,960 --> 00:25:38,440
Speaker 1: Oh, it'd be a nice fit for that. Yeah, quick

573
00:25:38,440 --> 00:25:40,520
Speaker 1: read boob and get it out. I like that fit.

574
00:25:41,359 --> 00:25:43,520
Speaker 1: But where I was going with the two is, if

575
00:25:43,520 --> 00:25:48,160
Speaker 1: he's at thirteen, fourteen, fifteen, somebody's get to the Browns

576
00:25:48,200 --> 00:25:51,200
Speaker 1: with all their picks plus next year's amos say we

577
00:25:51,240 --> 00:25:52,000
Speaker 1: can get Carter.

578
00:25:51,840 --> 00:25:55,040
Speaker 3: Ansian or the Rams move up and get one. Yeah, yeah, yeah, Hey,

579
00:25:55,080 --> 00:25:57,960
Speaker 3: let's just get our replacement, our long term, long term replacement,

580
00:25:58,040 --> 00:25:58,320
Speaker 3: or the.

581
00:25:58,320 --> 00:26:01,679
Speaker 1: Giant teams not including Steelers. I would think the Rams

582
00:26:01,680 --> 00:26:05,320
Speaker 1: are the most likely searching for the successor. Yeah, you know,

583
00:26:07,160 --> 00:26:10,000
Speaker 1: at twenty he'll be a first round pick, though, Yeah,

584
00:26:10,000 --> 00:26:12,560
Speaker 1: he'll go somewhere on percent chance Sanders is even there

585
00:26:12,600 --> 00:26:14,960
Speaker 1: at twenty one, I'm gonna say, like twenty, I was

586
00:26:15,000 --> 00:26:16,680
Speaker 1: just gonna say twenty. Yeah, I mean, I think they'll

587
00:26:16,680 --> 00:26:17,200
Speaker 1: be low.

588
00:26:18,000 --> 00:26:20,960
Speaker 3: Number twenty here up three spots. Is Tyler Booker the

589
00:26:21,000 --> 00:26:24,399
Speaker 3: Alabama guard certain type though, Yeah, somebody just pout on

590
00:26:24,480 --> 00:26:27,159
Speaker 3: mock today. I saw as I was waiting for you

591
00:26:27,600 --> 00:26:32,600
Speaker 3: waiting room forever, had the Steelers taking Tyler Booker. I'm like,

592
00:26:32,800 --> 00:26:36,280
Speaker 3: in the front, no, no, you're not taking a A.

593
00:26:36,640 --> 00:26:38,359
Speaker 3: You're not taking a guard in the first round, a

594
00:26:38,400 --> 00:26:38,960
Speaker 3: pure guard.

595
00:26:39,080 --> 00:26:39,679
Speaker 1: No. B.

596
00:26:39,840 --> 00:26:42,680
Speaker 3: They've drafted offensive linemen in the first round of the

597
00:26:42,760 --> 00:26:43,680
Speaker 3: last two drafts.

598
00:26:43,800 --> 00:26:46,720
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, if that were to be the case,

599
00:26:46,920 --> 00:26:49,520
Speaker 1: I would shop seamlu right now and maybe get a

600
00:26:49,520 --> 00:26:52,480
Speaker 1: fifth round pick for him or something. But I gotta

601
00:26:52,640 --> 00:26:55,359
Speaker 1: fish to fry. Yeah, and frankly Booker is not really

602
00:26:55,440 --> 00:26:56,639
Speaker 1: an outside zone dude.

603
00:26:56,720 --> 00:27:00,080
Speaker 3: He's not a scheme fim all you in the phone.

604
00:27:00,400 --> 00:27:03,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean old school Steeler, Yeah, but I don't think.

605
00:27:04,160 --> 00:27:06,320
Speaker 1: I also think Omar's drafting guards in the first round.

606
00:27:06,880 --> 00:27:10,520
Speaker 3: Twenty one, Mike Green, the edge rusher out of Marshall. Okay,

607
00:27:10,640 --> 00:27:11,960
Speaker 3: he goes before twenty one.

608
00:27:12,359 --> 00:27:15,639
Speaker 1: I think so, yeah, I mean the edge rushing, you know,

609
00:27:16,160 --> 00:27:18,919
Speaker 1: order of operations could get messed up. But because he

610
00:27:18,960 --> 00:27:20,880
Speaker 1: does have some off the field stuff, which he's addressed.

611
00:27:20,880 --> 00:27:24,280
Speaker 1: I mean he's also a little short armed, and he's

612
00:27:25,000 --> 00:27:26,679
Speaker 1: but he's as bending explosive.

613
00:27:28,080 --> 00:27:30,680
Speaker 3: Up next, there is another guy who's probably gonna be

614
00:27:30,760 --> 00:27:34,280
Speaker 3: gone by the time this pick rolls around, mikel Williams.

615
00:27:34,680 --> 00:27:37,560
Speaker 1: I would assume. I think the league's gonna realize, boy,

616
00:27:37,600 --> 00:27:39,679
Speaker 1: he played injured a lot. Yeah, you know.

617
00:27:40,320 --> 00:27:44,080
Speaker 3: Twenty three up three spots Derek Harmon, Wow.

618
00:27:44,400 --> 00:27:49,399
Speaker 1: I mean a head of Grant, the head of Nolan.

619
00:27:49,720 --> 00:27:51,439
Speaker 4: Yeah, okay.

620
00:27:52,400 --> 00:27:55,359
Speaker 3: Twenty four holding Steady is Gray's Abel, the North Dakota

621
00:27:55,359 --> 00:27:56,359
Speaker 3: State offensive lineman.

622
00:27:57,000 --> 00:27:59,240
Speaker 1: Seems pretty safe. I mean, what if he just ends

623
00:27:59,320 --> 00:28:01,600
Speaker 1: up in Houston, yea, or Kansas City or you know.

624
00:28:01,920 --> 00:28:05,000
Speaker 3: Twenty five up five spots is Donovan Azeriku, the edge

625
00:28:05,040 --> 00:28:06,440
Speaker 3: rusher out of Boston College.

626
00:28:07,119 --> 00:28:08,760
Speaker 1: I bet he ends up going in the first round.

627
00:28:08,800 --> 00:28:11,520
Speaker 3: It wouldn't surprise me if he went before the Steelers pick.

628
00:28:12,160 --> 00:28:13,640
Speaker 1: No, it wouldn't surpise me either.

629
00:28:13,720 --> 00:28:16,280
Speaker 3: I could see a run on those edge rushers.

630
00:28:16,440 --> 00:28:18,080
Speaker 1: I know there's a lot, but give me one. Yeah,

631
00:28:18,080 --> 00:28:18,679
Speaker 1: make sure I get one.

632
00:28:18,720 --> 00:28:21,359
Speaker 3: They're all talented, they all got traits.

633
00:28:21,160 --> 00:28:23,640
Speaker 1: You know, ageah, and I'm not taking quarterbacks or tackles

634
00:28:23,720 --> 00:28:24,880
Speaker 1: or I mean. Yeah.

635
00:28:25,359 --> 00:28:28,479
Speaker 3: Twenty six down four spots is James Pierce, the edge

636
00:28:28,520 --> 00:28:29,960
Speaker 3: rusher out of Tennessee.

637
00:28:29,840 --> 00:28:31,639
Speaker 1: A lot of edge rushers in that neighborhood.

638
00:28:31,720 --> 00:28:33,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, twenty seven that's the.

639
00:28:33,000 --> 00:28:35,280
Speaker 1: Position the Steelers want to see follow them. Yeah yeah.

640
00:28:35,400 --> 00:28:38,200
Speaker 3: Schamar Stewart the edge rusher out of Texas A and M.

641
00:28:38,280 --> 00:28:40,040
Speaker 1: You can see how every board is going to be different.

642
00:28:40,120 --> 00:28:40,520
Speaker 4: Yeah.

643
00:28:41,000 --> 00:28:44,800
Speaker 3: Twenty eight up six spots is Walter Nolan, the defensive

644
00:28:44,840 --> 00:28:45,880
Speaker 3: tackle on of Mississippi.

645
00:28:45,960 --> 00:28:49,400
Speaker 1: Fine makes me. I mean, if he would have a

646
00:28:49,520 --> 00:28:52,480
Speaker 1: much lower if he was hearing bad things. Yeah, he's

647
00:28:52,480 --> 00:28:53,400
Speaker 1: brought him back up now.

648
00:28:53,440 --> 00:28:53,600
Speaker 3: Yeah.

649
00:28:53,640 --> 00:28:54,040
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah.

650
00:28:54,040 --> 00:28:56,520
Speaker 3: I think some of the rumors that you heard out

651
00:28:56,520 --> 00:29:00,000
Speaker 3: there about Walter Nolan are just kind of all right. Yeah,

652
00:29:00,480 --> 00:29:01,920
Speaker 3: it's not he didn't kill anybody.

653
00:29:02,800 --> 00:29:03,360
Speaker 1: Uh.

654
00:29:03,840 --> 00:29:06,520
Speaker 3: Twenty nine down four spots is Malachi Starks.

655
00:29:07,120 --> 00:29:10,160
Speaker 1: Okay. I have a concern with it. I know this

656
00:29:10,240 --> 00:29:14,680
Speaker 1: is kind of nerdy, but his jumps were really bad

657
00:29:15,720 --> 00:29:18,320
Speaker 1: and that's telling to me. I mean, at that position,

658
00:29:19,000 --> 00:29:20,200
Speaker 1: I need explosiveness.

659
00:29:20,280 --> 00:29:22,480
Speaker 3: I mean, I just wonder how much he trained for that.

660
00:29:22,680 --> 00:29:25,800
Speaker 1: I don't know. I mean they're remarkably good football. He's

661
00:29:25,800 --> 00:29:28,920
Speaker 1: a good football player, but this year wasn't as good

662
00:29:28,920 --> 00:29:31,440
Speaker 1: as last year. No, that's true. Yeah.

663
00:29:32,080 --> 00:29:35,680
Speaker 3: Thirty down two spots is Kenneth Grant.

664
00:29:34,880 --> 00:29:37,600
Speaker 1: Okay, And maybe that's why he's moving or what might

665
00:29:37,640 --> 00:29:38,320
Speaker 1: be because.

666
00:29:38,040 --> 00:29:40,360
Speaker 3: Some people look at him and say, maybe he is

667
00:29:40,560 --> 00:29:44,520
Speaker 3: just a nose. Maybe maybe thirty one is Calvin Banks

668
00:29:44,560 --> 00:29:47,080
Speaker 3: down two spots. He may go higher than that, I

669
00:29:47,120 --> 00:29:52,480
Speaker 3: would think. Uh. Thirty two is Mason Taylor up five spots,

670
00:29:52,520 --> 00:29:54,040
Speaker 3: the tight end from LSU.

671
00:29:54,280 --> 00:29:56,640
Speaker 1: I think he had a big Pro day. He did, Okay, Yeah,

672
00:29:56,840 --> 00:29:59,480
Speaker 1: that doesn't shock me just watching the thepe.

673
00:29:59,240 --> 00:30:01,120
Speaker 3: And he's got very He's got a dad and uncle

674
00:30:01,160 --> 00:30:02,800
Speaker 3: who are both in the Pro Football Hall of Fame.

675
00:30:03,600 --> 00:30:05,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, people might not know who his uncle is. Daddy's

676
00:30:05,880 --> 00:30:13,960
Speaker 1: Jason Taylor. Yes, but Zach Thomas married his teammate's sister. Yes, No,

677
00:30:14,160 --> 00:30:17,880
Speaker 1: Jason Taylor Mary Taylor Thomas. Right.

678
00:30:18,160 --> 00:30:21,200
Speaker 3: Otherwise, right Thomas had married the sister, he wouldn't be.

679
00:30:21,080 --> 00:30:22,360
Speaker 1: There would be a little different.

680
00:30:22,440 --> 00:30:25,240
Speaker 3: Yeah, Mason Taylor has married those two bloodlines.

681
00:30:25,240 --> 00:30:30,360
Speaker 1: That's the right. Yeah. So his mom's brother is Zach Thomas, yes,

682
00:30:30,480 --> 00:30:32,960
Speaker 1: and daddy is Jason Taylor. Of the hills.

683
00:30:33,120 --> 00:30:35,040
Speaker 3: One is real tall, the other one's real short.

684
00:30:34,800 --> 00:30:37,440
Speaker 4: And he's between yeah.

685
00:30:37,720 --> 00:30:40,840
Speaker 3: Thirty three down two spots is Luther Burdon, wide receiver

686
00:30:40,880 --> 00:30:41,520
Speaker 3: at Missouri.

687
00:30:42,160 --> 00:30:44,160
Speaker 1: Real mixed opinions on him. I mean some people have'ens

688
00:30:44,160 --> 00:30:44,840
Speaker 1: wide receiver one.

689
00:30:44,920 --> 00:30:45,920
Speaker 3: He's so tough to judge.

690
00:30:46,000 --> 00:30:49,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, and there's some I've heard half of stuff, yeah,

691
00:30:50,800 --> 00:30:54,640
Speaker 1: entitlement stuff and right, and I've.

692
00:30:54,440 --> 00:30:56,880
Speaker 3: Had I've heard concrete off field stuff with him that.

693
00:30:57,080 --> 00:30:59,920
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I don't think that's hidden. Never right, we're

694
00:31:00,200 --> 00:31:01,160
Speaker 1: breaking ain't news there.

695
00:31:01,360 --> 00:31:04,520
Speaker 3: Thirty four down a spot is Trevion Henderson, running back

696
00:31:04,560 --> 00:31:05,400
Speaker 3: out of Ohio State.

697
00:31:05,960 --> 00:31:09,000
Speaker 1: Totally adds up, I mean, explosive and he can protect.

698
00:31:09,440 --> 00:31:10,160
Speaker 1: He's good in the past.

699
00:31:10,600 --> 00:31:14,920
Speaker 3: Thirty five down three spots is Maxwell Hairston, the Kentucky cornerback.

700
00:31:15,360 --> 00:31:17,440
Speaker 1: If you're fine with the size. I mean, he moves

701
00:31:17,480 --> 00:31:20,200
Speaker 1: around great, takes the ball away, but he there's many

702
00:31:20,240 --> 00:31:21,360
Speaker 1: times he gets pushed around.

703
00:31:21,440 --> 00:31:22,680
Speaker 4: Yeah.

704
00:31:22,760 --> 00:31:27,600
Speaker 3: Thirty six up four spots is Jackson Dart.

705
00:31:27,600 --> 00:31:29,880
Speaker 1: Okay, I bet he goes in the first round.

706
00:31:31,680 --> 00:31:32,120
Speaker 4: I don't know.

707
00:31:32,200 --> 00:31:34,120
Speaker 3: He may be the maybe just the first pick of

708
00:31:34,120 --> 00:31:34,680
Speaker 3: the second round.

709
00:31:34,720 --> 00:31:37,800
Speaker 1: Could be the Levis type of move. Yeah. Uh.

710
00:31:37,920 --> 00:31:43,160
Speaker 3: Thirty seven down two spots is Josh Simmons off. We're

711
00:31:43,200 --> 00:31:45,560
Speaker 3: not hearing any good news on the air. Yeah, it's

712
00:31:45,600 --> 00:31:49,000
Speaker 3: a health limbo. Yeah, it's a health issue. Thirty eight

713
00:31:49,040 --> 00:31:51,040
Speaker 3: down two spots is Quinn Shawn Judkins.

714
00:31:52,000 --> 00:31:52,320
Speaker 1: Okay.

715
00:31:52,600 --> 00:31:55,960
Speaker 3: The other running back from Ohio State. Thirty nine is

716
00:31:56,040 --> 00:31:58,200
Speaker 3: Josh Connerley, the Oregon offensive tackle.

717
00:31:58,600 --> 00:32:00,600
Speaker 1: Could stand to get a little stronger, but I bet

718
00:32:00,640 --> 00:32:03,040
Speaker 1: he goes. I don't can't imagineim getting past the Eagles

719
00:32:03,080 --> 00:32:05,080
Speaker 1: and Chiefs at the end of the first round.

720
00:32:05,200 --> 00:32:10,280
Speaker 3: At forty is up four spots Notre Dame cornerback Benjamin Morrison.

721
00:32:10,360 --> 00:32:11,640
Speaker 1: Maybe there is news on his hip.

722
00:32:11,760 --> 00:32:15,560
Speaker 3: Yeah, it must be feeling pretty good about that. Forty

723
00:32:15,600 --> 00:32:19,840
Speaker 3: one down two spots is Ohio State offensive lineman Donovan Jackson.

724
00:32:21,000 --> 00:32:23,520
Speaker 1: I think the thing with him is he was a

725
00:32:23,720 --> 00:32:28,720
Speaker 1: very solid left tackle. Due to injury, but I don't

726
00:32:28,720 --> 00:32:30,560
Speaker 1: think anyone's looking at a tackle. They're not looking. They're

727
00:32:30,600 --> 00:32:33,400
Speaker 1: not even looking at an emergency tackle, like he's a guard.

728
00:32:34,000 --> 00:32:38,680
Speaker 3: Forty two down a spot is Mississippi cornerback Trey Amos.

729
00:32:38,280 --> 00:32:40,040
Speaker 1: Okay, I think he's in the mix for one of

730
00:32:40,080 --> 00:32:41,680
Speaker 1: those top five or so corners.

731
00:32:42,080 --> 00:32:46,280
Speaker 3: Forty three up two spots is Miami tight end Elijah Rojo.

732
00:32:46,760 --> 00:32:49,240
Speaker 1: Him and Taylor gonna have a nice battle. See number

733
00:32:49,240 --> 00:32:51,000
Speaker 1: three is those top four are pretty strong.

734
00:32:51,560 --> 00:32:58,680
Speaker 3: Forty four up to spots is UCLA linebacker Carson Sweessinger, Okay, understandable.

735
00:32:59,240 --> 00:33:03,880
Speaker 3: Forty five out buzz around him lately. Yeah, up three spots.

736
00:33:04,120 --> 00:33:06,800
Speaker 3: Another player the Steelers brought in for a visit today,

737
00:33:06,840 --> 00:33:07,640
Speaker 3: Caleb Johnson.

738
00:33:08,080 --> 00:33:10,360
Speaker 1: Wow, that's pretty high. Yeah, I'm kind of shocked he's

739
00:33:10,360 --> 00:33:12,800
Speaker 1: in the top fifty. That's like that's the fifth running back,

740
00:33:13,080 --> 00:33:15,880
Speaker 1: fifth running back. Yeah, both both Ohio State dudes.

741
00:33:16,640 --> 00:33:19,880
Speaker 3: Forty six up a spot is Landon Jackson, the Arkansas

742
00:33:19,960 --> 00:33:20,520
Speaker 3: edge rusher.

743
00:33:20,920 --> 00:33:22,760
Speaker 1: Okay, tested well.

744
00:33:23,720 --> 00:33:27,520
Speaker 3: Forty seven up two spots is Toledo defensive tackle Darius

745
00:33:27,520 --> 00:33:29,400
Speaker 3: Alexander Fair.

746
00:33:29,640 --> 00:33:31,360
Speaker 1: I think he I don't think he'll be there for

747
00:33:31,440 --> 00:33:33,720
Speaker 1: the Steelers original second round pick. I think he goes

748
00:33:33,760 --> 00:33:34,720
Speaker 1: top fifty.

749
00:33:34,480 --> 00:33:38,720
Speaker 3: Ish forty eight up two spots is Perdue offensive tackle

750
00:33:38,800 --> 00:33:41,800
Speaker 3: Marcus bow I think he's.

751
00:33:41,680 --> 00:33:44,760
Speaker 1: A guard and a really good one. Nasty Yeah, little

752
00:33:45,200 --> 00:33:50,480
Speaker 1: play right tackle. Maybe maybe forty nine. He was unranked before.

753
00:33:51,320 --> 00:33:53,960
Speaker 1: He's been in and out of these rankings. Nick Scourton,

754
00:33:54,000 --> 00:33:56,000
Speaker 1: the edge rusher out of Texas A and he's another

755
00:33:56,000 --> 00:33:59,400
Speaker 1: one decipher you know, Purdue version or A and M version,

756
00:33:59,480 --> 00:34:01,160
Speaker 1: But nobody wants the A and M version and any

757
00:34:01,160 --> 00:34:01,840
Speaker 1: of the lineman.

758
00:34:01,920 --> 00:34:05,320
Speaker 3: No, and actually he might have been the most productive

759
00:34:05,320 --> 00:34:08,480
Speaker 3: of those guys. Like he still had like six wasn't bad. Yeah,

760
00:34:08,520 --> 00:34:10,000
Speaker 3: he just didn't have the ten that he had had

761
00:34:10,000 --> 00:34:11,000
Speaker 3: the previous year at produce.

762
00:34:11,040 --> 00:34:13,440
Speaker 1: Like I think he's a better football player than Stewart. Oh,

763
00:34:13,480 --> 00:34:18,040
Speaker 1: he's got way more, He's way more instinctive. Fifty is

764
00:34:18,160 --> 00:34:22,160
Speaker 1: another guy the Steelers brought in today down eight spots.

765
00:34:22,239 --> 00:34:24,719
Speaker 3: Azeri A. Thomas, the cornerback from Florida State.

766
00:34:25,400 --> 00:34:27,960
Speaker 1: Not a great forty time. Yeah, it's really the only

767
00:34:28,040 --> 00:34:30,480
Speaker 1: knock on him. But when you have that length and

768
00:34:30,560 --> 00:34:32,440
Speaker 1: you have manned the man skills and you can reroute

769
00:34:32,440 --> 00:34:34,360
Speaker 1: at the line of scrimmage. It's really the side to

770
00:34:34,400 --> 00:34:37,000
Speaker 1: side stuff. Yeah, yeah, he can, he can change direction

771
00:34:37,080 --> 00:34:39,440
Speaker 1: and yeah, I mean I'm not even saying he's slow.

772
00:34:39,280 --> 00:34:41,120
Speaker 3: But early in the process like, well, he might be

773
00:34:41,120 --> 00:34:42,880
Speaker 3: a first round pick. Well he's probably not.

774
00:34:43,200 --> 00:34:46,120
Speaker 1: I don't think so. No, he's a solid number two

775
00:34:46,280 --> 00:34:48,520
Speaker 1: that could be great opposite Porter. Yeah, you know, help

776
00:34:48,560 --> 00:34:49,440
Speaker 1: him a little bit. You know.

777
00:34:50,440 --> 00:34:54,239
Speaker 3: The one player who dropped out was Joshua Farmer, the

778
00:34:54,280 --> 00:34:55,839
Speaker 3: defensive tackle from Florida State.

779
00:34:55,960 --> 00:34:58,000
Speaker 1: Pretty bold to have him in there to begin with. Yeah, yeah,

780
00:34:58,360 --> 00:34:59,040
Speaker 1: really good player.

781
00:34:59,320 --> 00:35:02,080
Speaker 3: But so that DJ's top fifty now, I think he'll

782
00:35:02,080 --> 00:35:02,279
Speaker 3: do that.

783
00:35:02,320 --> 00:35:06,400
Speaker 1: We'll update again that again leave if.

784
00:35:06,239 --> 00:35:07,880
Speaker 3: I probably closer to the.

785
00:35:08,080 --> 00:35:09,879
Speaker 1: Draft, like he doesn't have a revel in there. I'm

786
00:35:09,920 --> 00:35:11,640
Speaker 1: just saying that some of the injured dudes, I mean,

787
00:35:11,760 --> 00:35:14,880
Speaker 1: Benjamin is Will Johnson. Could Johnson on a four to

788
00:35:14,880 --> 00:35:16,560
Speaker 1: three nine and all of a sudden, Okay, I'm gonna

789
00:35:16,600 --> 00:35:19,399
Speaker 1: move him up in five spots. Maybe Simmons get good

790
00:35:19,440 --> 00:35:21,239
Speaker 1: news right before the draft or something like that.

791
00:35:21,280 --> 00:35:24,400
Speaker 3: So yeah, you keep keeping an eye on that, you know,

792
00:35:24,560 --> 00:35:27,359
Speaker 3: just to update those as you get a little more

793
00:35:27,400 --> 00:35:31,000
Speaker 3: information about some of these guys. Now let's get to

794
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Speaker 3: another break. He is the Matt Williamson. I am Dale Lollie.

795
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796
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797
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798
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799
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00:35:59,280 --> 00:36:02,520
Speaker 3: And we are I am Dale Lolli. He is the

801
00:36:02,719 --> 00:36:04,560
Speaker 3: Matt Williamson and Matt.

802
00:36:06,320 --> 00:36:07,000
Speaker 1: It looks like.

803
00:36:09,239 --> 00:36:13,080
Speaker 3: The Bengals are making some They're banging the drum a

804
00:36:13,120 --> 00:36:17,560
Speaker 3: little bit about potentially they they won upgrades to their

805
00:36:17,600 --> 00:36:22,560
Speaker 3: stadium or they haven't necessarily said they're going to move,

806
00:36:22,640 --> 00:36:24,919
Speaker 3: but they said, look, our lease is up in a year.

807
00:36:25,000 --> 00:36:28,880
Speaker 1: It's like step one of that conversation. It seems like, yeah, so,

808
00:36:29,080 --> 00:36:31,040
Speaker 1: I don't know if I've ever even been in their stadium.

809
00:36:31,080 --> 00:36:32,800
Speaker 1: If so, it has been a long I have many times.

810
00:36:32,800 --> 00:36:36,600
Speaker 1: I know, what's it like. I mean, it doesn't seem

811
00:36:36,640 --> 00:36:37,359
Speaker 1: like one of the nicest one.

812
00:36:37,400 --> 00:36:41,080
Speaker 3: It's not a it's not a great stadium.

813
00:36:41,120 --> 00:36:45,440
Speaker 1: It's not the sight lines are fine, the location of it. Okay,

814
00:36:45,440 --> 00:36:46,320
Speaker 1: you got the Escaloosa.

815
00:36:46,440 --> 00:36:49,239
Speaker 3: The locations right downtown is Yeah, it's right next to

816
00:36:49,280 --> 00:36:50,960
Speaker 3: where the old stadium was at. You can get the

817
00:36:51,000 --> 00:36:55,920
Speaker 3: base a little bit to a degree. And they built

818
00:36:56,000 --> 00:36:58,600
Speaker 3: up some things along the river front there, so that part.

819
00:36:58,400 --> 00:37:00,360
Speaker 1: Of it is the Red Stadium real close to it's.

820
00:37:00,400 --> 00:37:02,160
Speaker 3: Right on the other side. There's a parking garage in

821
00:37:02,200 --> 00:37:06,279
Speaker 3: between the two if they share. Yeah, okay, but the

822
00:37:06,280 --> 00:37:10,640
Speaker 3: stadium itself is kind of nondescript other than the Escaloser.

823
00:37:10,520 --> 00:37:13,200
Speaker 1: Right, that's classic. Yeah, So do you think they just

824
00:37:13,239 --> 00:37:15,360
Speaker 1: want upgrades or a whole new stadium.

825
00:37:15,360 --> 00:37:19,200
Speaker 3: I think they want upgrades and they probably want some

826
00:37:19,360 --> 00:37:22,279
Speaker 3: money on there. We're paying too much money for the

827
00:37:22,320 --> 00:37:25,480
Speaker 3: stadium rights or whatever. Yeah, they're trying to angle for

828
00:37:26,239 --> 00:37:28,120
Speaker 3: I mean you might throw it out there for them.

829
00:37:28,440 --> 00:37:31,239
Speaker 3: I mean that's part of the negotiating process with this.

830
00:37:32,440 --> 00:37:35,640
Speaker 3: But realistically, where are they moving if they were going

831
00:37:35,719 --> 00:37:36,920
Speaker 3: to move from Cincinnati?

832
00:37:37,560 --> 00:37:39,160
Speaker 1: Well, one angle I want to explore. And this is

833
00:37:39,160 --> 00:37:43,560
Speaker 1: going to sound crazy because every NFL owner is incredibly wealthy,

834
00:37:43,600 --> 00:37:45,919
Speaker 1: and we just witnessed that and you know all that.

835
00:37:45,960 --> 00:37:48,160
Speaker 1: I mean, it's a different world of wealth.

836
00:37:48,200 --> 00:37:51,880
Speaker 3: Well, the one thing that the Bengals don't have because

837
00:37:51,920 --> 00:37:55,160
Speaker 3: all their everything is their their officers and everything are

838
00:37:55,160 --> 00:38:01,080
Speaker 3: located at the They don't have their practice facilities area.

839
00:38:01,280 --> 00:38:02,200
Speaker 3: I mean, they don't have any.

840
00:38:02,239 --> 00:38:07,040
Speaker 1: They're like they just got a bubble like two years ago, right, Yeah.

841
00:38:07,080 --> 00:38:08,640
Speaker 3: And when I say it's a bubble, it's a it's

842
00:38:08,680 --> 00:38:12,040
Speaker 3: a bubble. It's not an indoor practice facility. It's a

843
00:38:12,080 --> 00:38:14,040
Speaker 3: bubble over top of one of their fields which are

844
00:38:14,080 --> 00:38:18,880
Speaker 3: adjacent to the stadium with roads running all around on

845
00:38:18,960 --> 00:38:19,520
Speaker 3: top of them.

846
00:38:19,719 --> 00:38:21,520
Speaker 1: So where I was going with it with just owners

847
00:38:21,719 --> 00:38:26,640
Speaker 1: is their ownership is considered the least wealthy of the wealthies.

848
00:38:26,719 --> 00:38:28,880
Speaker 3: You know, they do not they are in the football business.

849
00:38:29,200 --> 00:38:33,759
Speaker 1: I never done anything exactly, And in a way, it

850
00:38:33,880 --> 00:38:36,840
Speaker 1: kind of reminds me of the Raiders and the Davis family.

851
00:38:37,200 --> 00:38:42,759
Speaker 1: And there's a reason that the Davis family, frankly, I

852
00:38:42,800 --> 00:38:45,680
Speaker 1: mean struggled by NFL terms. I'm talking about it, and

853
00:38:45,719 --> 00:38:47,640
Speaker 1: I'm not saying they're the pirates that can't compete with

854
00:38:47,640 --> 00:38:50,600
Speaker 1: the Yankees because the leagues are built differently. But the

855
00:38:50,640 --> 00:38:54,120
Speaker 1: move to Vegas is why, and selling part of the

856
00:38:54,160 --> 00:38:57,640
Speaker 1: business to Brady and all these other investors is why

857
00:38:57,680 --> 00:39:00,560
Speaker 1: they've been going to get Gino Smith and being and

858
00:39:00,640 --> 00:39:03,480
Speaker 1: the roster looks like it's actually trending in the right direction.

859
00:39:03,640 --> 00:39:06,880
Speaker 1: And since he hasn't really had that problem their problems

860
00:39:06,920 --> 00:39:09,160
Speaker 1: even drafted well. But I'm sure they look at the

861
00:39:09,160 --> 00:39:11,640
Speaker 1: writing on the wall and be like, if we're the

862
00:39:11,719 --> 00:39:16,040
Speaker 1: least financial set organization in the of the thirty two,

863
00:39:16,560 --> 00:39:19,080
Speaker 1: what's certainly a disadvantage you guarantee.

864
00:39:18,680 --> 00:39:23,520
Speaker 3: Com E can max out. Everybody assumes that because you

865
00:39:23,680 --> 00:39:29,680
Speaker 3: own an NFL franchise, you are a billionaire. Yeah, technically,

866
00:39:29,760 --> 00:39:33,640
Speaker 3: I guess on paper you would be. And I'm sure

867
00:39:33,640 --> 00:39:36,160
Speaker 3: they have other different levels and there's investments and things

868
00:39:36,200 --> 00:39:38,520
Speaker 3: of that nature. They're doing just fine, but you're not

869
00:39:38,640 --> 00:39:41,000
Speaker 3: necessarily liquid. It's not liquid.

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00:39:41,000 --> 00:39:42,279
Speaker 1: That's why I was going to get It's not things

871
00:39:42,280 --> 00:39:44,439
Speaker 1: is I can just go to the bank and take

872
00:39:44,440 --> 00:39:44,879
Speaker 1: out a loan.

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00:39:44,920 --> 00:39:46,600
Speaker 3: I can get five hundred million. I got five hundred

874
00:39:46,640 --> 00:39:48,600
Speaker 3: million dollars in the bank. So that doesn't work that way.

875
00:39:48,640 --> 00:39:51,080
Speaker 3: It doesn't work that way. Yes, what you working hundreds

876
00:39:51,120 --> 00:39:53,160
Speaker 3: of millions, what you own is worth that kind of

877
00:39:53,200 --> 00:39:56,520
Speaker 3: money because the price of the franchise goes up every year.

878
00:39:56,600 --> 00:39:58,560
Speaker 1: You can't just sell the franchise or the stadium or

879
00:39:58,600 --> 00:39:59,480
Speaker 1: the whatever.

880
00:39:59,239 --> 00:40:00,440
Speaker 3: You do that you're out of the business.

881
00:40:00,560 --> 00:40:02,439
Speaker 1: Right. And the other part of it that people don't

882
00:40:02,440 --> 00:40:06,880
Speaker 1: think about is all this guaranteed money sits in escro somewhere.

883
00:40:07,520 --> 00:40:09,120
Speaker 1: It's out of your bank account.

884
00:40:09,200 --> 00:40:11,480
Speaker 3: When you sign, Yeah, when you sign a chair in

885
00:40:11,560 --> 00:40:14,239
Speaker 3: Higan and you guarantee him money, you have to take

886
00:40:14,360 --> 00:40:17,160
Speaker 3: said money and put it in a bank account.

887
00:40:16,760 --> 00:40:19,840
Speaker 1: In case you go bankrupt. Right, the player doesn't get screwed.

888
00:40:19,880 --> 00:40:22,880
Speaker 1: We've seen things like this is apparently. I don't know

889
00:40:22,880 --> 00:40:26,000
Speaker 1: if other I know the NFL makes them do that.

890
00:40:26,040 --> 00:40:29,000
Speaker 1: I don't know if other sports do make them do that,

891
00:40:29,200 --> 00:40:31,640
Speaker 1: but we do know. I mean, for example, the Penguins say,

892
00:40:31,640 --> 00:40:33,600
Speaker 1: that's why let you end up taking the team overcause

893
00:40:33,920 --> 00:40:36,960
Speaker 1: they owed him a bunch of money, and he said, well,

894
00:40:36,960 --> 00:40:39,120
Speaker 1: I'll take instead of you don't have the money, you

895
00:40:39,120 --> 00:40:41,600
Speaker 1: don't have the money, I'll take part ownership of the team.

896
00:40:41,640 --> 00:40:44,600
Speaker 3: And that's because of the goodness of his heart. He

897
00:40:44,600 --> 00:40:45,520
Speaker 3: wanted to get paid.

898
00:40:45,640 --> 00:40:48,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, And it's worked out fine for Mario and

899
00:40:48,440 --> 00:40:51,080
Speaker 1: kinds of course. Yeah. But Roger Goodell and the other

900
00:40:51,080 --> 00:40:53,279
Speaker 1: thirty one owners don't want Joe Burrow to be taken

901
00:40:53,360 --> 00:40:55,360
Speaker 1: over the team because they can't pay their bills, you know,

902
00:40:55,400 --> 00:40:57,320
Speaker 1: I mean like that would be the worst case scenario

903
00:40:58,080 --> 00:41:00,640
Speaker 1: all around. And I'm not implying that the Bengals are

904
00:41:01,120 --> 00:41:04,399
Speaker 1: poverty level or anything that nothing. They're doing just fine. Yeah,

905
00:41:04,600 --> 00:41:07,920
Speaker 1: but also it might be their opportunity to increase their revenue.

906
00:41:07,920 --> 00:41:08,920
Speaker 3: They're not moving anywhere.

907
00:41:08,960 --> 00:41:11,520
Speaker 1: I can't even imagine. I mean, I can't imagine the

908
00:41:12,120 --> 00:41:16,200
Speaker 1: team San Diego Bengals, where the San Antonio mentioned Saint

909
00:41:16,239 --> 00:41:18,520
Speaker 1: Louis off the air, I mean, Saint Louis would love

910
00:41:18,560 --> 00:41:21,439
Speaker 1: to get a team back, yeah, but they've also been

911
00:41:21,680 --> 00:41:24,920
Speaker 1: kind of the jumping off city now several times. I

912
00:41:24,960 --> 00:41:28,840
Speaker 1: can't even think, I mean London. I don't know they're

913
00:41:28,840 --> 00:41:29,399
Speaker 1: gonna be the best.

914
00:41:29,600 --> 00:41:31,120
Speaker 3: They're gonna be the Cincinnati Bengals.

915
00:41:31,160 --> 00:41:32,880
Speaker 1: But there was a day we said the Browns are

916
00:41:32,920 --> 00:41:34,600
Speaker 1: never moving either. But times are a little different.

917
00:41:34,600 --> 00:41:38,680
Speaker 3: Times of chance, that period where teams were moving around

918
00:41:38,920 --> 00:41:42,839
Speaker 3: in that you know, mid nineties or Colts, Yeah, right,

919
00:41:43,920 --> 00:41:46,279
Speaker 3: really the Colts kind of started the ball rolling, well,

920
00:41:46,360 --> 00:41:51,360
Speaker 3: I guess I should say the Raiders started the ball yeah,

921
00:41:51,440 --> 00:41:53,120
Speaker 3: and then it just there was a period of about

922
00:41:53,120 --> 00:41:58,080
Speaker 3: ten years there where you know that you know, the

923
00:41:58,160 --> 00:42:04,280
Speaker 3: Rams move yeah. Yeah, the Browns move, the Ravens existed,

924
00:42:04,360 --> 00:42:07,640
Speaker 3: the Ravens came into existence, the Titans.

925
00:42:07,239 --> 00:42:11,040
Speaker 1: Move Titans, the Oilers moved to and there's more expansion

926
00:42:11,080 --> 00:42:14,799
Speaker 1: to Carolina Jacksonville than Houston, you know, right, So.

927
00:42:15,160 --> 00:42:19,680
Speaker 3: I just don't know that there's the way the league

928
00:42:19,680 --> 00:42:21,440
Speaker 3: has been now. It's been this way now for the

929
00:42:21,520 --> 00:42:25,239
Speaker 3: last twenty plus years where these teams have been other

930
00:42:25,320 --> 00:42:28,560
Speaker 3: than the move of the Raiders again, yeah, and that

931
00:42:28,680 --> 00:42:32,279
Speaker 3: was the Chargers moving from.

932
00:42:31,200 --> 00:42:33,799
Speaker 1: Yeah, but they're all at least in the same regions too. Yeah.

933
00:42:34,000 --> 00:42:36,000
Speaker 1: I mean I was saying about the vision alignment and

934
00:42:36,040 --> 00:42:38,239
Speaker 1: things like that too, like I'm sure they don't want

935
00:42:38,239 --> 00:42:40,640
Speaker 1: to realign the divisions or any of that sort of thing. Yeah,

936
00:42:41,280 --> 00:42:43,520
Speaker 1: and they're pretty well set. I mean, like the East

937
00:42:43,600 --> 00:42:44,880
Speaker 1: is weird because Dallas is.

938
00:42:44,960 --> 00:42:48,560
Speaker 3: It's no coincidence that the teams that have moved around

939
00:42:48,600 --> 00:42:52,520
Speaker 3: a little bit more have been California has been involved.

940
00:42:52,719 --> 00:42:55,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, because including Vegas.

941
00:42:55,080 --> 00:42:58,520
Speaker 3: Those stadiums out there. Nobody was going to build those

942
00:42:58,560 --> 00:43:02,680
Speaker 3: teams new stadiums out there. It just wasn't going to happen.

943
00:43:03,560 --> 00:43:06,799
Speaker 1: And I also they have the generations of fan base either. Yeah,

944
00:43:06,880 --> 00:43:09,799
Speaker 1: I mean San Diego and Wa l A. Right, it's

945
00:43:09,800 --> 00:43:12,560
Speaker 1: almost the same thing, like Vegas. Who's actually from Vegas?

946
00:43:13,360 --> 00:43:15,080
Speaker 1: I mean, how many teams I should know if I

947
00:43:15,120 --> 00:43:17,520
Speaker 1: tought I had, But how many different franchises have resided

948
00:43:17,560 --> 00:43:23,799
Speaker 1: in La Rams, Chargers, Raiders, and probably it.

949
00:43:24,120 --> 00:43:24,719
Speaker 3: I think that's it.

950
00:43:24,760 --> 00:43:28,560
Speaker 1: I think that's it. Yeah, they've come and gone in La. Yeah.

951
00:43:28,640 --> 00:43:31,120
Speaker 3: So it's it's just it's the posturing that goes on.

952
00:43:31,800 --> 00:43:33,719
Speaker 1: Yeah, what they should do for step one?

953
00:43:33,760 --> 00:43:37,440
Speaker 3: But negotiation, it's all negotiations with.

954
00:43:37,480 --> 00:43:39,839
Speaker 1: The city of Cincinnati, right, yeah, Okay.

955
00:43:39,800 --> 00:43:41,880
Speaker 3: Hamilton County I think they I think the county owns

956
00:43:42,239 --> 00:43:44,759
Speaker 3: the stadium there. Whatever they do now, they could move

957
00:43:44,800 --> 00:43:47,560
Speaker 3: outside of the city mm hm, you know the real

958
00:43:47,680 --> 00:43:49,960
Speaker 3: estate chief maybe they go to Kentucky or maybe they go,

959
00:43:50,239 --> 00:43:51,759
Speaker 3: you know, north of the city and get out of

960
00:43:51,840 --> 00:43:54,560
Speaker 3: Hamilton count I don't know, but somebody the Browns are

961
00:43:54,600 --> 00:43:57,640
Speaker 3: going through this right now. Yeah, with their stadium that

962
00:43:57,640 --> 00:43:59,719
Speaker 3: they're they're building, building a new on the outside of

963
00:43:59,719 --> 00:44:02,759
Speaker 3: downtow on Cleveland, and there's some things that they have

964
00:44:02,800 --> 00:44:06,240
Speaker 3: to deal with with that because one of the stipulations

965
00:44:06,280 --> 00:44:09,279
Speaker 3: in that because the Browns, the city of Cleveland wasn't

966
00:44:09,280 --> 00:44:12,759
Speaker 3: happy about the Browns leaving, right, was that for the

967
00:44:12,800 --> 00:44:16,759
Speaker 3: Browns to leave the city. As things stand now, there's

968
00:44:16,800 --> 00:44:20,759
Speaker 3: a law in place. I believe that it says if

969
00:44:20,760 --> 00:44:23,520
Speaker 3: the team moves out of the city, it has to

970
00:44:23,560 --> 00:44:26,680
Speaker 3: be put up for sale. That's weird, and give somebody

971
00:44:26,680 --> 00:44:28,839
Speaker 3: else a chance an opportunity to buy it and thus

972
00:44:28,920 --> 00:44:34,040
Speaker 3: keep it in the city. Okay, they're fighting that obviously. Yeah,

973
00:44:33,600 --> 00:44:36,960
Speaker 3: ye can't force me to sell my I know we're

974
00:44:37,040 --> 00:44:39,439
Speaker 3: up against it. But you get the feeling I kind

975
00:44:39,440 --> 00:44:41,720
Speaker 3: of do or that maybe it's even just like step

976
00:44:41,800 --> 00:44:45,720
Speaker 3: one of this, that the league is pushing these Northern

977
00:44:45,719 --> 00:44:47,280
Speaker 3: teams to maybe have a dome.

978
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Speaker 1: Or at least a retractable Not the league, I don't.

979
00:44:49,640 --> 00:44:51,640
Speaker 3: I don't think the League cares one way or the other.

980
00:44:51,760 --> 00:44:54,320
Speaker 3: You don't think because we've seen some other new stadiums built.

981
00:44:55,160 --> 00:44:58,000
Speaker 3: The Bills are building their stadium you're gonna.

982
00:44:57,800 --> 00:44:59,759
Speaker 1: Put isn't that a dome? No? I thought that was

983
00:44:59,760 --> 00:45:02,400
Speaker 1: gonna be retractable. No, it's gonna be an open It

984
00:45:02,440 --> 00:45:05,600
Speaker 1: should be. To me, now you're talking about I know

985
00:45:05,760 --> 00:45:08,839
Speaker 1: because I think that I've had said this about Green

986
00:45:08,880 --> 00:45:10,800
Speaker 1: Bay my whole life, and like I know him from Pittsburgh.

987
00:45:10,800 --> 00:45:13,160
Speaker 1: You're supposed to be a purist. But if I'm Aaron

988
00:45:13,239 --> 00:45:16,399
Speaker 1: Rodgers with DeVante Adams and Jordan Nelson and I can't

989
00:45:16,400 --> 00:45:19,640
Speaker 1: throw the ball in the NFC Championship game, well, if you.

990
00:45:19,600 --> 00:45:21,320
Speaker 3: Can't throw the ball, the other team in throwing the

991
00:45:21,360 --> 00:45:21,799
Speaker 3: ball either.

992
00:45:21,840 --> 00:45:23,719
Speaker 1: It's just not as good as football. I don't know,

993
00:45:23,960 --> 00:45:26,520
Speaker 1: because I don't know. I think ice games are.

994
00:45:26,880 --> 00:45:28,640
Speaker 3: I don't mind games in the snow.

995
00:45:28,440 --> 00:45:32,279
Speaker 1: Shouldn't determine who goes to the Super Bowl. Oh, Snow's fine.

996
00:45:32,320 --> 00:45:35,440
Speaker 1: I mean I'm talking about ice bowl and nonsense games.

997
00:45:35,480 --> 00:45:38,439
Speaker 3: You know, all those happen everywhere. I mean, Steelers played

998
00:45:38,480 --> 00:45:41,160
Speaker 3: a game in Kansas City that got pushed back because ice.

999
00:45:41,440 --> 00:45:44,360
Speaker 1: Oh, I know, I know things happen. I mean feats

1000
00:45:45,160 --> 00:45:46,520
Speaker 1: some of the Buffalo weather they spent.

1001
00:45:46,800 --> 00:45:50,600
Speaker 3: They spent a week in Dallas, and yes it's an

1002
00:45:50,600 --> 00:45:54,879
Speaker 3: indoor stadium, but snowing there all week for the Super

1003
00:45:54,920 --> 00:45:57,240
Speaker 3: Bowl was not ideal. Let me tell you. You couldn't

1004
00:45:57,239 --> 00:46:00,319
Speaker 3: get around here. You couldn't get around. Yeah, they had

1005
00:46:00,320 --> 00:46:01,360
Speaker 3: no idea how to clear on.

1006
00:46:01,840 --> 00:46:04,719
Speaker 1: So I'm just talking about the level of football.

1007
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Speaker 3: Let's get to a break that's going to do it

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Speaker 3: for our number one of the drive here on the

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Speaker 3: Steelers Audio Network. Matt and I'll be back with our

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Speaker 3: number two right after this