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Speaker 3: Y'all know what this was?

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Speaker 5: The Gangster the Chronicles. It's Big still with the homeboy

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Speaker 5: Yip and we was having the conversation earlier today and

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Speaker 5: that's how most of our episodes go. Me and they

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Speaker 5: hate having the conversation, but we just go with that.

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Speaker 5: I asked the question, is it every time when someone

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Speaker 5: is too old to gang bang and claim their neighborhood.

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Speaker 4: I guess it depends on if if gang banging is

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Speaker 4: And what I try to when I what I mean

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Speaker 4: by that is gang bang has been around for a

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Speaker 4: long time, and uh, you gotta feel some to some

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Speaker 4: to some of us, that was our heritage of foundation, right.

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Speaker 4: You know, you didn't have to you know, you didn't

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Speaker 4: So that became your foundation because that was what you know,

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Speaker 4: I didn't after I turned a certain age and before

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Speaker 4: I started rapping, I didn't think that, you know, my

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Speaker 4: You get me. It was nigga khaki suits and you know,

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Speaker 4: doesn't transition over to the hood was everything you get me.

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Speaker 4: The hood, you know, allowed me to you know, serve

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Speaker 4: and they're just now coming home. You're welcome back to

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Speaker 4: the hood. You get me. You're seen as that og

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Speaker 4: The niggas get killed, niggas go to prison whatever, blah blah,

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Speaker 4: And then some niggas who still do that, still go

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Speaker 5: You get me, so, well, what do you say about

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Speaker 5: say he don did a bed, he don't been locked up,

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Speaker 5: and he come home at the fifteen years. He's a grandfather.

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Speaker 5: Now he got grandkids. And in some cases his grandson

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Speaker 5: You feel what I'm saying. So he's gonna be out

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Speaker 3: You got it.

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Speaker 4: It's like I said, it's hard to decipher because a

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Speaker 5: I've been on the West coast since I was seventeen.

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Speaker 4: All my friends, right, don't you know niggas that you

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Speaker 3: Who banged All my friends are gang bangers.

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Speaker 4: Niggas niggas with them niggas turn around right now, just

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Speaker 4: You get me, it's not like that. You Probably half

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Speaker 5: And it might and you know what, I'm gonna tell you,

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Speaker 3: No what a couple of them it is.

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Speaker 5: But with most of them, it may be when they

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Speaker 5: But they for the most part kind of like stay

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Speaker 5: I'm just saying, man, don't get a little too old

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Speaker 5: You know what I saw the other day, shout out

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I told him, Marv, And he's a funny dude.

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Speaker 5: I told them, Marrow, at seventy some years old, still

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Speaker 4: It's not impossible, I said, I guess. I guess. Being

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Speaker 4: just for anything as a man you get me as

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Speaker 4: we get older, we're supposed to get more mature, wiser

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Speaker 4: when that's your foundation, it's kind of you know, it's

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Speaker 4: You could have all the respect and whatever you want

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Speaker 4: So you just always have to be fearful of that.

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Speaker 4: So that's why I think, you know, because gang banging

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Speaker 4: if if I was, if I was still you know,

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Speaker 4: an apartment around the corner, that's where you're gonna go, right,

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Speaker 4: every day. And then you're transitioning of what getting a

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Speaker 4: real ship. You know, I got a regular I got

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Speaker 4: a job, nigga, I'm working construction or I'm down at

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Speaker 4: the dots and you know whatever, whatever, you still come

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Speaker 5: but I'd like to call them kind of semi retired.

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Speaker 4: They may have uh, you know, older niggas, niggas that

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Speaker 4: playing dominoes and it's niggas. That's just.

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Speaker 5: What else their lifestyle. So so, would you say the

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Speaker 5: game banging is a lifestyle.

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Speaker 4: Oh, definitely, but it's it's but the lifestyle has been manipulated,

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Speaker 4: you did me because the lifestyle has been monop my

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Speaker 4: of times. The lifestyle has been uh openly accepted by

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Speaker 3: Now. You know we were.

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Speaker 5: Talking about we were talking about Jim Jones earlier, and

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Speaker 5: Jim Jones is kind of like, I don't seen Jim

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Speaker 5: Jones reinvent himself a couple of times, you know.

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Speaker 3: He came out he was like cams and them.

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Speaker 5: He was like kind of like the executive slash, bodyguard slash,

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Speaker 5: just a homie that was around the rap every once

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Speaker 5: in a while to where he put out a hit records.

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Speaker 5: When he put when he put Balling out, he had

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Speaker 5: You're like, Okay, this dude is the rap start now, right.

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Speaker 5: He really worked his way up the ranks in the

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Speaker 5: Well you know what, man, I'm gonna tell you. Money

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Speaker 5: Wasn't nobody gonna bother him because they was he was

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Speaker 5: Care of families two or three pis, have a car, no,

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Speaker 4: Like I said, so you you you definitely, you definitely

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Speaker 5: And that's him, you know, you gotta remember, and he

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Speaker 5: Because he told me all of my sons, all of

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Speaker 5: All his boys are, that's who he who he played with,

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Speaker 5: Whereas Jasmine, she'd the mixture of both. While she appreciates

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Speaker 5: That's ghetto.

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Speaker 5: They all extremes, Steph, I don't don't want to be

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Speaker 5: living cool, but you not really living. You know, it's

433
00:23:55,760 --> 00:23:59,040
Speaker 5: not a steady thing, right. He said something one day,

434
00:23:59,080 --> 00:24:01,280
Speaker 5: he said, sometimes you gotta tell a wife and them

435
00:24:01,280 --> 00:24:03,800
Speaker 5: maid you know what, we can't get Louis Vatan and

436
00:24:04,280 --> 00:24:05,960
Speaker 5: go do this and go on trips and all that

437
00:24:06,000 --> 00:24:08,480
Speaker 5: and now, but we gonna be back to balling then

438
00:24:08,520 --> 00:24:11,240
Speaker 5: about five six months. I gotta get these projects together.

439
00:24:11,240 --> 00:24:12,760
Speaker 5: I gotta do this and do that. Then we gonna

440
00:24:12,760 --> 00:24:15,840
Speaker 5: get back to it. Right, that's the reality for the

441
00:24:15,840 --> 00:24:16,879
Speaker 5: A B.

442
00:24:19,200 --> 00:24:24,480
Speaker 4: Yeah, you, like I said, you gotta you gotta have

443
00:24:24,640 --> 00:24:28,800
Speaker 4: somebody who understands the situation and like you said, if

444
00:24:28,840 --> 00:24:32,040
Speaker 4: you're dealing with the common man and the common hood, nigga,

445
00:24:32,320 --> 00:24:36,080
Speaker 4: everything is a hustle. You feel me small? You know,

446
00:24:36,359 --> 00:24:37,840
Speaker 4: we gotta learn that shit.

447
00:24:38,560 --> 00:24:39,439
Speaker 1: Uh we not.

448
00:24:39,680 --> 00:24:44,639
Speaker 4: We might not be motherfucking uh fucking ten to fifty

449
00:24:44,720 --> 00:24:49,360
Speaker 4: million dollar rich, but you know we can climb that ladder.

450
00:24:50,200 --> 00:24:53,680
Speaker 5: Oh yeah, man, And it's just a I think in

451
00:24:53,760 --> 00:24:56,320
Speaker 5: the age we and Man, I was talking to one

452
00:24:56,359 --> 00:24:59,520
Speaker 5: of the homies. You know, we always having conversations, right.

453
00:25:00,240 --> 00:25:02,120
Speaker 5: I was talking to a couple of the young homies.

454
00:25:02,160 --> 00:25:05,840
Speaker 5: They close to getting them a little situation, right, and

455
00:25:05,920 --> 00:25:08,320
Speaker 5: I was kind of managing their expectations of telling them

456
00:25:08,359 --> 00:25:11,040
Speaker 5: what to expect. And I was telling them like, don't

457
00:25:11,080 --> 00:25:14,680
Speaker 5: believe these rap these music videos. Don't believe none of

458
00:25:14,760 --> 00:25:17,320
Speaker 5: this stuff because all of it is kind of all

459
00:25:17,400 --> 00:25:19,639
Speaker 5: of it is kind of a lie, right, all of

460
00:25:19,680 --> 00:25:20,280
Speaker 5: it is a myth.

461
00:25:24,359 --> 00:25:26,320
Speaker 3: We got the homie Glasses Malone in the house. He

462
00:25:26,680 --> 00:25:31,120
Speaker 3: just came through. He gonna love this conversation. So we

463
00:25:31,119 --> 00:25:32,800
Speaker 3: we kind of got away from it a little bit.

464
00:25:32,840 --> 00:25:37,720
Speaker 5: Bro. The question was is it ever too late for

465
00:25:37,760 --> 00:25:39,600
Speaker 5: a dude to be out their gang band, to push

466
00:25:39,640 --> 00:25:40,800
Speaker 5: the line in his neighborhood.

467
00:25:41,560 --> 00:25:44,040
Speaker 6: What do you mean pushing the line for his neighborhood.

468
00:25:44,160 --> 00:25:46,080
Speaker 3: Like a dude. That's just saying he a gang bang.

469
00:25:46,080 --> 00:25:46,800
Speaker 3: He from the hood.

470
00:25:46,840 --> 00:25:49,320
Speaker 5: He may be, he may be a grandfather, he may

471
00:25:49,359 --> 00:25:52,840
Speaker 5: got he may got grandkids that belong to the neighborhood. Now,

472
00:25:52,840 --> 00:25:54,879
Speaker 5: he may not be out there active, but he is

473
00:25:54,920 --> 00:25:57,960
Speaker 5: in his late fifties, early sixties, out there still pushing

474
00:25:57,960 --> 00:25:59,159
Speaker 5: the line for his neighborhood.

475
00:26:01,680 --> 00:26:03,879
Speaker 7: But you don't really push your line for your neighborhood

476
00:26:03,880 --> 00:26:07,119
Speaker 7: like you really push your line for your friends. So

477
00:26:07,200 --> 00:26:09,879
Speaker 7: I don't know if there's ever an age where pushing

478
00:26:09,880 --> 00:26:11,800
Speaker 7: the line for your friends you can get too old.

479
00:26:12,200 --> 00:26:14,360
Speaker 7: But I think there's a rhetoric about pushing the line

480
00:26:14,400 --> 00:26:17,560
Speaker 7: for your neighborhood versus pushing the line for your friends.

481
00:26:18,000 --> 00:26:19,679
Speaker 7: Do you ever get too old to stand up for

482
00:26:19,720 --> 00:26:20,280
Speaker 7: your friends?

483
00:26:21,680 --> 00:26:23,960
Speaker 5: No, I knew you asked, was gonna have some kind

484
00:26:24,000 --> 00:26:26,119
Speaker 5: of like kind of logic to the stuff You and

485
00:26:26,160 --> 00:26:28,320
Speaker 5: eight both ate pretty much said the same thing you did.

486
00:26:28,359 --> 00:26:31,720
Speaker 5: By the way, No, you don't never get too old

487
00:26:31,560 --> 00:26:34,840
Speaker 5: to take care of your friends, take care of your homeboys. No,

488
00:26:39,920 --> 00:26:41,919
Speaker 5: so a lot of gang banging. It's kind of frowned

489
00:26:41,920 --> 00:26:46,879
Speaker 5: and made to think like it got something to do

490
00:26:46,960 --> 00:26:49,760
Speaker 5: with the name of the street or the sign at

491
00:26:49,760 --> 00:26:52,240
Speaker 5: the park. I don't really have nothing to do with

492
00:26:52,320 --> 00:26:54,400
Speaker 5: what this thing is about. This is about your lifelong

493
00:26:54,480 --> 00:26:56,919
Speaker 5: friends most of the time, if you like, really from

494
00:26:56,960 --> 00:27:00,399
Speaker 5: where you're from, these are your life long friends. So

495
00:27:01,480 --> 00:27:04,280
Speaker 5: right now, if Russ living around the corner for me

496
00:27:04,400 --> 00:27:08,320
Speaker 5: right now, Russ said, he not even like he did

497
00:27:08,359 --> 00:27:10,760
Speaker 5: some time. He don't even feel like he wanted to

498
00:27:10,760 --> 00:27:12,800
Speaker 5: be the part. But if he called me and needed

499
00:27:12,840 --> 00:27:14,959
Speaker 5: me at you know, at forty five of them, I'm

500
00:27:14,960 --> 00:27:17,040
Speaker 5: gonna going around there and take this pistol around there,

501
00:27:17,119 --> 00:27:18,840
Speaker 5: just in case I got to get active to save

502
00:27:18,920 --> 00:27:22,440
Speaker 5: his life and stand up for here. Fuck yeah, hell

503
00:27:22,520 --> 00:27:24,600
Speaker 5: n I ain't got too old for that. See, that's

504
00:27:24,640 --> 00:27:27,040
Speaker 5: the thing you talking about. Looking out for a homeboy

505
00:27:27,119 --> 00:27:30,240
Speaker 5: right now, but holding somebody down right there, there's nothing

506
00:27:30,240 --> 00:27:30,840
Speaker 5: wrong with that.

507
00:27:30,840 --> 00:27:32,680
Speaker 3: That's to be suspected, because you.

508
00:27:32,600 --> 00:27:35,040
Speaker 5: Know, any one of y'all called me and need my assistance,

509
00:27:35,080 --> 00:27:37,920
Speaker 5: I'm gonna be there right I'm talking about the thing, dude,

510
00:27:37,960 --> 00:27:40,040
Speaker 5: you know what I'm talking about. The dude that's still

511
00:27:40,119 --> 00:27:42,879
Speaker 5: got the rag on his head. He still got the

512
00:27:43,000 --> 00:27:45,720
Speaker 5: rag on his head. He's out there he's still got

513
00:27:45,720 --> 00:27:47,680
Speaker 5: to he's still got a pistol in his waist, he's

514
00:27:47,680 --> 00:27:50,520
Speaker 5: still doing his thing. Is that dude too old to

515
00:27:50,560 --> 00:27:50,920
Speaker 5: be game?

516
00:27:51,000 --> 00:27:55,040
Speaker 3: Bang? I still?

517
00:27:55,359 --> 00:27:58,200
Speaker 7: I know it sounds like I'm being disingenuous or misleading.

518
00:27:58,200 --> 00:27:59,159
Speaker 3: I'm telling you the truth.

519
00:28:00,080 --> 00:28:03,440
Speaker 7: I don't see it the same way you said it, Like, well,

520
00:28:03,480 --> 00:28:04,920
Speaker 7: you can ask the question, so.

521
00:28:04,920 --> 00:28:06,480
Speaker 5: You can't tell me you ain't seen the dude in

522
00:28:06,480 --> 00:28:08,840
Speaker 5: his fifties early sixties with a rag on his head

523
00:28:08,840 --> 00:28:10,320
Speaker 5: and he's still out there pushing the line.

524
00:28:11,640 --> 00:28:14,520
Speaker 7: I mean pushing the line like what like he is

525
00:28:15,560 --> 00:28:17,639
Speaker 7: a proud representative.

526
00:28:17,600 --> 00:28:21,720
Speaker 5: Yeah, but a proud representative of what that means. He's

527
00:28:21,760 --> 00:28:25,520
Speaker 5: still a hardcore gang banger. What do you think that means?

528
00:28:25,520 --> 00:28:25,800
Speaker 3: Still?

529
00:28:27,160 --> 00:28:29,280
Speaker 5: I think that means he's a man that's still stuck

530
00:28:29,280 --> 00:28:31,480
Speaker 5: in his childhood, that's trying to relive his childhood and

531
00:28:31,680 --> 00:28:34,280
Speaker 5: has been stuck in his childhood. I think a lot

532
00:28:34,280 --> 00:28:37,040
Speaker 5: of them dudess is. I think it goes further than

533
00:28:37,040 --> 00:28:39,239
Speaker 5: a dude is representing his neighborhood. I think these are

534
00:28:39,320 --> 00:28:42,560
Speaker 5: men who still are are still tied up and being

535
00:28:42,560 --> 00:28:44,920
Speaker 5: a juvenile, and they've missed it.

536
00:28:45,000 --> 00:28:45,520
Speaker 3: They missed the.

537
00:28:45,600 --> 00:28:49,000
Speaker 6: Childhood huh you feel that worry about Fambi.

538
00:28:50,080 --> 00:28:52,120
Speaker 5: Now, Fobbi is not a dude to walk around with

539
00:28:52,320 --> 00:28:54,440
Speaker 5: blue rags on his head or dude this do that.

540
00:28:54,480 --> 00:28:57,600
Speaker 3: Farmby is to own a business. He owns a business.

541
00:28:57,640 --> 00:29:00,000
Speaker 6: He owns a proud nigga from insane crip right now.

542
00:29:01,240 --> 00:29:03,400
Speaker 5: He gee, you know what I'm talking about, Man, don't

543
00:29:03,440 --> 00:29:06,760
Speaker 5: do that. Ibby not walking around Finbly not walking around

544
00:29:06,760 --> 00:29:09,400
Speaker 5: with a Raiders jersey on and a and.

545
00:29:09,000 --> 00:29:13,680
Speaker 3: A and a Black Raider rag and right now today.

546
00:29:14,400 --> 00:29:16,320
Speaker 5: Oh yeah, I'm pretty sure he do. That's just one

547
00:29:16,320 --> 00:29:19,200
Speaker 5: of his favorite teams. I'm pretty sure Finbi do that

548
00:29:19,280 --> 00:29:21,720
Speaker 5: right now. But the thing is, Gee, he's not out

549
00:29:21,760 --> 00:29:23,480
Speaker 5: there with a rag on his head, just out there

550
00:29:23,560 --> 00:29:25,080
Speaker 5: just calls and just in the middle of the hood,

551
00:29:25,280 --> 00:29:26,240
Speaker 5: just calls the.

552
00:29:26,200 --> 00:29:29,440
Speaker 6: Stir A Raider's jersey is a rag for somebody from

553
00:29:29,440 --> 00:29:31,320
Speaker 6: his saying, yeah.

554
00:29:31,440 --> 00:29:33,040
Speaker 5: Gee, you know what I'm saying. He don't do that

555
00:29:33,120 --> 00:29:35,080
Speaker 5: all the time. Most of the time. I see, fine,

556
00:29:35,160 --> 00:29:36,200
Speaker 5: he got a polo or something.

557
00:29:36,240 --> 00:29:36,360
Speaker 4: Though.

558
00:29:38,240 --> 00:29:43,040
Speaker 3: What about Trading Trady too old to be man? Tray D.

559
00:29:43,640 --> 00:29:46,280
Speaker 5: Trade D is a man of intellect. Tray D, He's

560
00:29:46,320 --> 00:29:48,600
Speaker 5: a man of intellect. He don't wear the whole bunch

561
00:29:48,640 --> 00:29:51,800
Speaker 5: of Actually, I've never seen him outside of him when

562
00:29:51,800 --> 00:29:54,080
Speaker 5: he do his performances, I ain't seen him wear a

563
00:29:54,120 --> 00:29:55,960
Speaker 5: whole bunch of Raiders stuff. And he don't be dressed

564
00:29:55,960 --> 00:29:58,000
Speaker 5: like a gang banger. He kind of be dressed, clean cut,

565
00:29:59,320 --> 00:30:00,000
Speaker 5: got a little face.

566
00:30:00,080 --> 00:30:00,720
Speaker 3: You know what I mean?

567
00:30:01,120 --> 00:30:03,880
Speaker 7: From your mind? Game baggers dress a certain way.

568
00:30:04,280 --> 00:30:06,720
Speaker 5: I'm talking about dudes that's just active. See, I ain't

569
00:30:07,040 --> 00:30:08,040
Speaker 5: all my friends a game.

570
00:30:08,440 --> 00:30:10,040
Speaker 7: And all this time Trady, when he was in a

571
00:30:10,120 --> 00:30:15,719
Speaker 7: Raider jersey, he wasn't active. Huh are you saying whenever

572
00:30:15,760 --> 00:30:18,280
Speaker 7: Trady is not wearing a Raiders jersey, he's not active.

573
00:30:19,760 --> 00:30:20,479
Speaker 3: I didn't say that.

574
00:30:20,520 --> 00:30:22,520
Speaker 5: See, I didn't say that because the Raiders could just

575
00:30:22,560 --> 00:30:25,080
Speaker 5: be his favorite team too, or it could be the

576
00:30:25,120 --> 00:30:27,680
Speaker 5: fact that this is that it could be and it

577
00:30:27,720 --> 00:30:30,280
Speaker 5: could be that too. But I ain't talking about the

578
00:30:30,400 --> 00:30:31,960
Speaker 5: dude that's just over the top.

579
00:30:32,040 --> 00:30:32,200
Speaker 3: Man.

580
00:30:32,240 --> 00:30:36,600
Speaker 7: It's just like I'm naming dudes over the top. You

581
00:30:36,640 --> 00:30:38,080
Speaker 7: think you think Trady over the top.

582
00:30:38,840 --> 00:30:41,360
Speaker 6: Trad is a fucking insiane crypt to the day he

583
00:30:41,480 --> 00:30:42,520
Speaker 6: dies sign for FONDI.

584
00:30:43,560 --> 00:30:48,880
Speaker 5: Yeah, but they don't walk around with with no blue reds,

585
00:30:48,880 --> 00:30:52,720
Speaker 5: with no rags on their head, raiders jersey with a

586
00:30:52,760 --> 00:30:55,240
Speaker 5: blower and a blow your head off. If you play

587
00:30:55,280 --> 00:30:59,200
Speaker 5: with them or their friends right now, trad ain't gonna

588
00:30:59,200 --> 00:31:00,920
Speaker 5: be like, oh, I'm a grand father right now, you

589
00:31:00,920 --> 00:31:03,040
Speaker 5: could play with me. They ain't gonna let you play

590
00:31:03,080 --> 00:31:07,960
Speaker 5: with him. Being a game being a game member still

591
00:31:08,080 --> 00:31:10,240
Speaker 5: is all saying, will you take the law on your hand,

592
00:31:11,080 --> 00:31:14,720
Speaker 5: say advance whatever? Will you take the when you when

593
00:31:14,760 --> 00:31:21,400
Speaker 5: you go beyond the laws rules too? Would you go

594
00:31:21,480 --> 00:31:24,800
Speaker 5: beyond the lost rules to advance your cause?

595
00:31:25,880 --> 00:31:27,720
Speaker 3: I don't think you ever get away.

596
00:31:27,520 --> 00:31:29,640
Speaker 7: From that if you like grew up how we grew up.

597
00:31:30,720 --> 00:31:33,880
Speaker 7: I don't think Tracy, I don't think Farmby. I don't

598
00:31:33,920 --> 00:31:36,600
Speaker 7: think Dan Tanner, I don't think none of them people.

599
00:31:37,240 --> 00:31:38,960
Speaker 7: You could play with them. They're not gonna wake up

600
00:31:39,000 --> 00:31:40,080
Speaker 7: and be like, I'm my grandfather.

601
00:31:40,160 --> 00:31:40,520
Speaker 3: You know what.

602
00:31:40,600 --> 00:31:41,640
Speaker 6: You could just pump me.

603
00:31:41,880 --> 00:31:42,800
Speaker 3: That ain't happening.

604
00:31:43,160 --> 00:31:46,080
Speaker 7: And if you play with them, they may not called

605
00:31:46,080 --> 00:31:48,440
Speaker 7: the proper authority still to get with you.

606
00:31:48,480 --> 00:31:52,680
Speaker 6: They might give you the justice you asking for. Right now, Justine,

607
00:31:54,440 --> 00:31:55,160
Speaker 6: let me ask.

608
00:31:55,000 --> 00:31:59,760
Speaker 5: You this right here, right, you brought up fineby right.

609
00:32:01,320 --> 00:32:05,400
Speaker 5: Fombi is more focused on increasing his revenue than he

610
00:32:05,600 --> 00:32:08,600
Speaker 5: is on anything here lated every time I'm talking to him.

611
00:32:08,840 --> 00:32:10,760
Speaker 5: You know he got that car shut up business he

612
00:32:10,800 --> 00:32:14,479
Speaker 5: got going on. He do security for trading. He traded security.

613
00:32:14,560 --> 00:32:16,320
Speaker 5: Fanmbi always handling some business.

614
00:32:16,920 --> 00:32:18,840
Speaker 7: What made you think that's what we wasn't doing as

615
00:32:18,920 --> 00:32:25,920
Speaker 7: game members when we was game banking every day. Believe

616
00:32:26,080 --> 00:32:28,160
Speaker 7: you found what Fanmbi was doing when you first met him.

617
00:32:28,160 --> 00:32:30,000
Speaker 7: He was advancing his finances.

618
00:32:30,240 --> 00:32:32,080
Speaker 5: Yeah, we was kids, though we were doing in a

619
00:32:32,160 --> 00:32:34,720
Speaker 5: legal manner, in a legal fashion. Now he's doing illegally

620
00:32:34,960 --> 00:32:38,360
Speaker 5: because he doesn't want to go back to jail again.

621
00:32:38,880 --> 00:32:42,640
Speaker 7: It ain't worth going to jail for that. Now, there

622
00:32:42,680 --> 00:32:45,480
Speaker 7: are certain things to Fanbi. I'm sure if you asked Fombi,

623
00:32:45,640 --> 00:32:47,520
Speaker 7: if you asked O G Fhombi, is there things worth

624
00:32:47,520 --> 00:32:48,800
Speaker 7: going to jail, he going to give.

625
00:32:48,680 --> 00:32:50,440
Speaker 6: You a list of things that he would go to

626
00:32:50,480 --> 00:32:51,000
Speaker 6: prison over.

627
00:32:52,600 --> 00:32:56,200
Speaker 5: She it's everybody with everybody has a point that they

628
00:32:56,200 --> 00:32:58,520
Speaker 5: will risk it all right. I got a point to

629
00:32:58,560 --> 00:33:00,160
Speaker 5: where our risk at all. I go to prison to

630
00:33:00,200 --> 00:33:02,959
Speaker 5: protect my family and mine because you knew you wouldn't

631
00:33:02,960 --> 00:33:06,000
Speaker 5: go to prison for that. I wouldn't go to prison

632
00:33:06,040 --> 00:33:09,440
Speaker 5: for what? For protecting my family? I go to prison

633
00:33:09,480 --> 00:33:11,160
Speaker 5: for self defense like a motherfucker.

634
00:33:11,280 --> 00:33:15,000
Speaker 6: Hell, it's called that's why you reference it that self defense.

635
00:33:17,280 --> 00:33:19,480
Speaker 5: Yeah, I wouldn't have to go to thing. The thing is,

636
00:33:19,960 --> 00:33:23,280
Speaker 5: I would do everything I can to protect my family

637
00:33:23,320 --> 00:33:28,000
Speaker 5: and my loved ones within the laws. No, it sometimes,

638
00:33:28,040 --> 00:33:30,440
Speaker 5: man sometimes if the laws ain't man like. The thing

639
00:33:30,560 --> 00:33:33,160
Speaker 5: is this, if I got a blower right, Let's say

640
00:33:33,200 --> 00:33:38,080
Speaker 5: I got a blower right, and that motherfucker might not

641
00:33:38,160 --> 00:33:38,680
Speaker 5: be legal.

642
00:33:38,840 --> 00:33:41,480
Speaker 3: It might not be blower.

643
00:33:42,000 --> 00:33:44,360
Speaker 5: No, but let's just say the sixuaitions like that, pretend

644
00:33:44,400 --> 00:33:46,000
Speaker 5: like the SIXU waisters like that where I grabbed this

645
00:33:46,080 --> 00:33:48,160
Speaker 5: pistol you think I'm gonna be grabbing and the mixing

646
00:33:48,160 --> 00:33:50,600
Speaker 5: of stuff happening, or I wonder if this heat is legal.

647
00:33:50,880 --> 00:33:52,680
Speaker 5: This is not my rigors to guns, so I can't

648
00:33:52,760 --> 00:33:55,000
Speaker 5: use it now. I'm a bus dude, down to worry

649
00:33:55,000 --> 00:33:57,960
Speaker 5: about the repercussions. Later on, you're not going to get

650
00:33:58,000 --> 00:34:01,400
Speaker 5: in a legal blower. Still, I might be at your

651
00:34:01,400 --> 00:34:03,400
Speaker 5: house dog and somebody might have did something to you

652
00:34:03,640 --> 00:34:05,400
Speaker 5: and I'm might have to grab your strap and get this.

653
00:34:05,640 --> 00:34:07,800
Speaker 3: You want to come with your legal blower, then.

654
00:34:09,560 --> 00:34:11,520
Speaker 5: Yeah, it's good to have a legal blower because I

655
00:34:11,520 --> 00:34:13,400
Speaker 5: don't want that's right, because I don't want.

656
00:34:13,280 --> 00:34:17,200
Speaker 6: To go to jail. So you asking me.

657
00:34:17,320 --> 00:34:19,880
Speaker 7: The difference between you and let's say MC eight is

658
00:34:20,440 --> 00:34:23,320
Speaker 7: MC eight is not going to worry about if this

659
00:34:23,480 --> 00:34:26,520
Speaker 7: blower legal, if he needs the blower, he that's.

660
00:34:26,360 --> 00:34:27,520
Speaker 3: Not the first thing on his mind.

661
00:34:27,520 --> 00:34:29,120
Speaker 6: You know what, This motherfucker ain't legal.

662
00:34:29,239 --> 00:34:30,840
Speaker 3: Ain't even the first thing on mine either.

663
00:34:33,239 --> 00:34:34,839
Speaker 6: Still, yes, it is.

664
00:34:34,920 --> 00:34:38,279
Speaker 7: That's what separates That's what separates you from being a

665
00:34:38,320 --> 00:34:40,880
Speaker 7: gang member. The only I keep telling you, our lives

666
00:34:40,920 --> 00:34:42,799
Speaker 7: ain't that different, right. We all grew up in street

667
00:34:42,880 --> 00:34:45,719
Speaker 7: urban culture. The only difference is people like me and

668
00:34:45,800 --> 00:34:47,720
Speaker 7: eight decided to thug with our friends.

669
00:34:48,160 --> 00:34:50,200
Speaker 3: You thugged by yourself to some degree.

670
00:34:50,239 --> 00:34:52,000
Speaker 7: But you also grew up and you're like, you know what,

671
00:34:52,600 --> 00:34:54,920
Speaker 7: most of this shit ain't worth going to jail. People

672
00:34:55,000 --> 00:34:58,040
Speaker 7: like me eight, trad we still think there's reasons.

673
00:34:57,719 --> 00:35:00,400
Speaker 3: To go to jail. Eight don't think itself.

674
00:35:00,440 --> 00:35:03,279
Speaker 7: You know I got grandkids, Now what I'm gonna let

675
00:35:03,280 --> 00:35:04,360
Speaker 7: this nigga do this to me?

676
00:35:05,000 --> 00:35:06,359
Speaker 3: No, bro, it.

677
00:35:06,239 --> 00:35:08,600
Speaker 5: Ain't about me saying you just let the nigga just

678
00:35:08,640 --> 00:35:11,239
Speaker 5: do something to you. It don't like that dog what

679
00:35:11,280 --> 00:35:14,080
Speaker 5: I'm saying. If you dude, it's just out there you

680
00:35:14,200 --> 00:35:18,520
Speaker 5: sixty five, damnar seventy you pressing people, you banging on people?

681
00:35:18,560 --> 00:35:20,279
Speaker 3: Where you from? Food and all this and that you

682
00:35:20,280 --> 00:35:21,200
Speaker 3: don't think that's too old?

683
00:35:21,320 --> 00:35:21,520
Speaker 4: Dog?

684
00:35:22,520 --> 00:35:25,640
Speaker 7: Still they even if press is understated, Bro, you don't

685
00:35:25,680 --> 00:35:27,240
Speaker 7: press people to say where you're from.

686
00:35:27,480 --> 00:35:29,759
Speaker 3: You press people if you think they're a threat to

687
00:35:30,000 --> 00:35:31,640
Speaker 3: where you at. Where are you from?

688
00:35:31,719 --> 00:35:34,280
Speaker 7: Is a way to identify who is this foreign person

689
00:35:34,600 --> 00:35:37,400
Speaker 7: within my realm. It's not like you just trying to

690
00:35:37,400 --> 00:35:39,560
Speaker 7: be me and you walk around here old.

691
00:35:39,800 --> 00:35:42,359
Speaker 5: Ain't trying to say something. This thing ain't no no, yeah,

692
00:35:42,400 --> 00:35:44,759
Speaker 5: we still can't hear you, bro. But anyway, man, it

693
00:35:44,880 --> 00:35:46,719
Speaker 5: is fools. That's too old the game, bang you.

694
00:35:48,600 --> 00:35:53,839
Speaker 7: It ain't never. It ain't never an age still to change. Look,

695
00:35:53,880 --> 00:35:56,160
Speaker 7: it's up to you. The day you don't ever want

696
00:35:56,200 --> 00:35:58,200
Speaker 7: to go to jail for nothing is the day you

697
00:35:58,360 --> 00:35:59,440
Speaker 7: done as a game member.

698
00:36:00,680 --> 00:36:03,560
Speaker 5: Well see, I'm saying this right here, right. I have

699
00:36:03,680 --> 00:36:07,759
Speaker 5: legal guns, right sure, And I do that because that's

700
00:36:07,760 --> 00:36:10,000
Speaker 5: the right thing to do. That's a life of thing,

701
00:36:10,080 --> 00:36:12,440
Speaker 5: because I understand that we live in a time in

702
00:36:12,560 --> 00:36:15,520
Speaker 5: society the way you should have weapons in your house

703
00:36:15,560 --> 00:36:18,040
Speaker 5: because it's people outside that could be coming, and you

704
00:36:18,080 --> 00:36:20,239
Speaker 5: don't want to be up there, right you know you

705
00:36:20,280 --> 00:36:22,360
Speaker 5: don't want to be unprepared. You feel what I'm saying.

706
00:36:22,880 --> 00:36:25,080
Speaker 6: No, you don't think it's right to have guns.

707
00:36:25,320 --> 00:36:27,640
Speaker 7: You have to abide by the law, and that's your

708
00:36:27,680 --> 00:36:29,640
Speaker 7: goal as a But that's.

709
00:36:29,440 --> 00:36:31,920
Speaker 3: All right as an American citizen to have guns.

710
00:36:32,560 --> 00:36:35,239
Speaker 7: I'm not looking for America to being a gang member

711
00:36:35,280 --> 00:36:38,160
Speaker 7: means you're not looking for America to give you rights.

712
00:36:39,600 --> 00:36:40,000
Speaker 3: That's all.

713
00:36:40,080 --> 00:36:40,719
Speaker 4: You're trying to.

714
00:36:40,680 --> 00:36:42,040
Speaker 3: Give me a hard time right now?

715
00:36:42,080 --> 00:36:42,920
Speaker 4: Bro? You know what I mean?

716
00:36:43,080 --> 00:36:43,759
Speaker 3: Hard time? Bro?

717
00:36:43,840 --> 00:36:47,040
Speaker 5: You know I'm not You know, you too old to

718
00:36:47,040 --> 00:36:49,839
Speaker 5: be out here doing the stuff they're doing. Man, what

719
00:36:49,880 --> 00:36:52,799
Speaker 5: are they doing? Still assessing a threat by saying, hey,

720
00:36:52,800 --> 00:36:54,279
Speaker 5: where are you from? Are you from around here?

721
00:36:54,760 --> 00:36:56,719
Speaker 7: That's not too old to ever assess a threat of

722
00:36:56,800 --> 00:36:59,040
Speaker 7: you around the way, if you so use.

723
00:36:59,080 --> 00:37:02,399
Speaker 5: Somebody's grandfather and somebody something his little grandson bring his

724
00:37:02,400 --> 00:37:05,200
Speaker 5: friend home, and that little dude got some red strings

725
00:37:05,200 --> 00:37:07,359
Speaker 5: in the show. You think grandpas would ask him like, hey, man,

726
00:37:07,400 --> 00:37:08,040
Speaker 5: where are you from?

727
00:37:09,000 --> 00:37:13,480
Speaker 6: I mean, is he active? Is grandson's friend active?

728
00:37:16,160 --> 00:37:21,400
Speaker 3: Team colors? Huh?

729
00:37:21,520 --> 00:37:24,879
Speaker 5: The thing might be his arm, That might be his arm.

730
00:37:25,320 --> 00:37:26,840
Speaker 5: It might be his school colors.

731
00:37:27,880 --> 00:37:30,719
Speaker 7: Okay, so that once you once you assess the threat

732
00:37:30,760 --> 00:37:33,640
Speaker 7: and ask this man, where are you from, then you don't.

733
00:37:33,520 --> 00:37:37,799
Speaker 5: Know say something that one two Yeah you don't know. Yeah,

734
00:37:37,840 --> 00:37:40,040
Speaker 5: you won't know who was you saying? Man, we saw

735
00:37:40,080 --> 00:37:42,839
Speaker 5: your mouth moving. I was saying that.

736
00:37:43,320 --> 00:37:48,160
Speaker 4: I don't think that you though necessarily that you got

737
00:37:48,480 --> 00:37:52,640
Speaker 4: seventy year old niggas. You dog putting Dan Dana's on

738
00:37:52,719 --> 00:37:55,359
Speaker 4: their head, pulling up on niggas like yeah, blood, they

739
00:37:55,400 --> 00:37:56,360
Speaker 4: cub where you're from?

740
00:37:56,400 --> 00:37:56,880
Speaker 3: Homie.

741
00:37:57,239 --> 00:38:00,920
Speaker 4: Uh Like, like Glass has said, that's only gonna be

742
00:38:00,960 --> 00:38:06,120
Speaker 4: in the expectation of I already had an issue with

743
00:38:06,160 --> 00:38:10,760
Speaker 4: this dude, or it's it's it's a situation to where

744
00:38:11,280 --> 00:38:14,840
Speaker 4: I might need to have some words. But at seventy

745
00:38:14,960 --> 00:38:17,560
Speaker 4: years old, I don't think no dude who was still

746
00:38:18,000 --> 00:38:23,319
Speaker 4: in his neighborhood is going around actively like I'm gonna

747
00:38:23,360 --> 00:38:25,719
Speaker 4: jump in the car fold deep with the homies and

748
00:38:25,719 --> 00:38:28,600
Speaker 4: we gonna put Van Dana's on and you know that's

749
00:38:28,640 --> 00:38:30,799
Speaker 4: TV comical shit.

750
00:38:30,920 --> 00:38:33,680
Speaker 5: Still, I'm gonna tell you now, the homie Eye had tolder.

751
00:38:33,760 --> 00:38:36,440
Speaker 5: Marv just got at somebody. I ain't gonna get the

752
00:38:36,480 --> 00:38:38,120
Speaker 5: toll on this thing too much. But he starts to

753
00:38:38,200 --> 00:38:38,720
Speaker 5: to out.

754
00:38:39,000 --> 00:38:42,360
Speaker 4: He don't like I said, that's probably that's probably some

755
00:38:42,520 --> 00:38:45,319
Speaker 4: other that's probably some other deep rooted issue.

756
00:38:45,560 --> 00:38:49,320
Speaker 7: Marv is older than gang banging. Marv is a fool.

757
00:38:49,480 --> 00:38:51,680
Speaker 7: It has nothing to do with gangs.

758
00:38:52,680 --> 00:38:52,759
Speaker 5: Like.

759
00:38:52,920 --> 00:38:56,919
Speaker 7: Marv is the real deal nothing. He is serious more.

760
00:38:57,040 --> 00:38:59,520
Speaker 7: Marv is older than the first cribs. The first crips

761
00:38:59,600 --> 00:39:01,399
Speaker 7: was born if twenty three. I think Marv was born

762
00:39:01,400 --> 00:39:05,120
Speaker 7: in forty nine. You can registure whatever mark.

763
00:39:04,880 --> 00:39:10,440
Speaker 4: You ready, ready, call y'all ask you was you was

764
00:39:10,520 --> 00:39:11,440
Speaker 4: best being crazy?

765
00:39:12,520 --> 00:39:17,399
Speaker 3: Your listen whatever mark that way. I want to put

766
00:39:17,440 --> 00:39:18,479
Speaker 3: you on you real quick.

767
00:39:18,920 --> 00:39:22,960
Speaker 5: I told them, Marv, when the last time you don't

768
00:39:23,040 --> 00:39:25,160
Speaker 5: suck somebody out you're trying, I'm gonna put you on

769
00:39:25,160 --> 00:39:25,920
Speaker 5: the podcast right now.

770
00:39:25,920 --> 00:39:26,480
Speaker 3: It is that cool.

771
00:39:27,520 --> 00:39:29,239
Speaker 5: Oh it's against the crime because I'm just gonna put

772
00:39:29,239 --> 00:39:31,239
Speaker 5: you on for five minutes, just real quick. I want

773
00:39:31,239 --> 00:39:34,560
Speaker 5: to ask you a question. All sure, hey, y'all, we

774
00:39:34,600 --> 00:39:37,520
Speaker 5: got the homeboy Marv here. Marv, just for the record,

775
00:39:37,520 --> 00:39:37,960
Speaker 5: how old.

776
00:39:37,800 --> 00:39:40,040
Speaker 6: Are you seventy five?

777
00:39:40,600 --> 00:39:44,880
Speaker 3: Seventy five, last seventy six? When you turn.

778
00:39:44,800 --> 00:39:46,879
Speaker 5: Seventy six, that's glasses alone, he said when you turn

779
00:39:46,920 --> 00:39:47,480
Speaker 5: seventy six.

780
00:39:48,840 --> 00:39:51,160
Speaker 1: I just turned seventy five February.

781
00:39:50,800 --> 00:39:52,480
Speaker 3: Fourth, Fifteuary fourth.

782
00:39:53,160 --> 00:39:56,080
Speaker 6: What Marv got going on? Marv is for real?

783
00:39:56,280 --> 00:39:58,240
Speaker 7: This don't got nothing to do with game Baggan, Marv

784
00:39:58,360 --> 00:40:01,040
Speaker 7: just not playing. You keep your and mar behavior up

785
00:40:01,040 --> 00:40:02,880
Speaker 7: to something to do with gangs. Marv was on some

786
00:40:02,920 --> 00:40:06,759
Speaker 7: ship period. If games stopped today and there was never

787
00:40:06,840 --> 00:40:08,799
Speaker 7: no more games, Marv still gonna be on.

788
00:40:08,760 --> 00:40:10,759
Speaker 3: The shitty own. It don't have nothing. Did you hear that,

789
00:40:10,840 --> 00:40:14,399
Speaker 3: mar Did you hear with glass.

790
00:40:14,040 --> 00:40:14,560
Speaker 4: And said.

791
00:40:15,880 --> 00:40:16,279
Speaker 6: He said?

792
00:40:16,440 --> 00:40:18,360
Speaker 1: He said, yeah, I don't know what he said about.

793
00:40:18,760 --> 00:40:21,840
Speaker 3: What's the discussion about we're talking about? Is there for

794
00:40:21,880 --> 00:40:24,680
Speaker 3: a time for somebody to be too old to be active?

795
00:40:26,040 --> 00:40:28,040
Speaker 1: You kid, what do you need to find? An actor

796
00:40:28,200 --> 00:40:30,560
Speaker 1: sitting in the park holding your nuts ain't acting.

797
00:40:32,040 --> 00:40:34,200
Speaker 3: We're talking about where you're really out there pressing people?

798
00:40:34,239 --> 00:40:36,319
Speaker 5: Do you think that? To see Marve? The thing is

799
00:40:36,360 --> 00:40:38,640
Speaker 5: you're not out there pressing people. You actually a well

800
00:40:38,640 --> 00:40:42,319
Speaker 5: spoken man. You're not out there pressing you trying to

801
00:40:42,320 --> 00:40:42,680
Speaker 5: make game.

802
00:40:42,760 --> 00:40:46,479
Speaker 7: Maybe like they just after a certain times, you ain't

803
00:40:46,480 --> 00:40:47,920
Speaker 7: gonna press nobody know what.

804
00:40:48,280 --> 00:40:52,520
Speaker 8: Forty five fifty years old, you're gonna get your ass.

805
00:40:54,440 --> 00:40:57,320
Speaker 3: Y'all hear Martha, ain't these youngsters ain't playing?

806
00:40:57,360 --> 00:41:00,600
Speaker 8: I mean they don't no more punching, mean, ain't the

807
00:41:00,719 --> 00:41:02,320
Speaker 8: bully like life is over?

808
00:41:03,000 --> 00:41:04,160
Speaker 3: You know they say, old.

809
00:41:03,960 --> 00:41:07,279
Speaker 1: Man for counsel, young men for war. Ain't no more

810
00:41:07,360 --> 00:41:11,120
Speaker 1: ol gs them O Jesus that you call old Jesus.

811
00:41:10,760 --> 00:41:13,640
Speaker 8: Hanging in the park slapping Domino's talking about what they

812
00:41:13,640 --> 00:41:14,040
Speaker 8: did in.

813
00:41:14,040 --> 00:41:18,399
Speaker 1: Seventy seven eighty. Nobody care about seventy seven eighty. It's

814
00:41:18,400 --> 00:41:20,400
Speaker 1: twenty twenty five. What are you doing now?

815
00:41:22,080 --> 00:41:25,840
Speaker 3: That's real spit man, that's real spit. Yeah. Can you

816
00:41:25,880 --> 00:41:29,040
Speaker 3: hear me? Holder? Can you hear me? Mark? Yeah?

817
00:41:29,560 --> 00:41:32,400
Speaker 7: This glass is big dog. I'm trying to tell Stele.

818
00:41:33,480 --> 00:41:36,160
Speaker 7: I'm trying to tell Steve who you are. Don't have

819
00:41:36,360 --> 00:41:36,879
Speaker 7: nothing to.

820
00:41:36,760 --> 00:41:41,360
Speaker 3: Do with Elm Street. You not playing with nobody period.

821
00:41:43,760 --> 00:41:45,560
Speaker 3: Oh he said he ain't from Elm Street. Ge.

822
00:41:46,239 --> 00:41:48,560
Speaker 7: I'm sorry, Mark, who you are has nothing to do

823
00:41:48,640 --> 00:41:52,880
Speaker 7: with Piru.

824
00:41:54,400 --> 00:41:58,920
Speaker 1: But say you our neighborhood. I'm from m I'm my street.

825
00:41:59,040 --> 00:42:00,560
Speaker 1: I was born on.

826
00:42:00,120 --> 00:42:01,440
Speaker 3: On the street.

827
00:42:01,840 --> 00:42:04,960
Speaker 8: Tree tops first and then they turned into cedar blocks.

828
00:42:05,400 --> 00:42:06,360
Speaker 3: Fact.

829
00:42:06,560 --> 00:42:09,760
Speaker 7: So when I'm telling him Mark, you was this way

830
00:42:10,520 --> 00:42:14,760
Speaker 7: way before anybody told you They didn't have to organize

831
00:42:14,760 --> 00:42:15,640
Speaker 7: you to be this way.

832
00:42:15,719 --> 00:42:17,600
Speaker 3: Mark, you was already this way.

833
00:42:18,560 --> 00:42:20,840
Speaker 7: I'm telling Steve, I don't think he heard your story

834
00:42:21,120 --> 00:42:24,320
Speaker 7: that you were in the penitentiary when Gang Bang started.

835
00:42:24,320 --> 00:42:26,400
Speaker 3: He was in trouble already when game Banging started.

836
00:42:27,640 --> 00:42:28,200
Speaker 4: What and said?

837
00:42:28,239 --> 00:42:30,879
Speaker 1: When the first crypts came to why, I was already there.

838
00:42:32,040 --> 00:42:33,600
Speaker 3: He's not playing still.

839
00:42:33,840 --> 00:42:37,160
Speaker 8: When Cunningham after the Blue Killing, he was the first

840
00:42:37,200 --> 00:42:39,000
Speaker 8: crypt that came to San Quentin.

841
00:42:39,080 --> 00:42:39,840
Speaker 6: I was there.

842
00:42:41,360 --> 00:42:43,640
Speaker 3: Still. He not playing this. Don't got nothing more of

843
00:42:43,719 --> 00:42:46,240
Speaker 3: not playing. I know Marvin playing. See.

844
00:42:46,400 --> 00:42:48,920
Speaker 5: I think y'all confusing what I'm talking about. I'm not

845
00:42:48,960 --> 00:42:49,799
Speaker 5: talking about Marv.

846
00:42:49,880 --> 00:42:51,239
Speaker 3: Marv don't be walking around with.

847
00:42:51,239 --> 00:42:53,520
Speaker 5: The rag on his head, slapping dudes in the back

848
00:42:53,560 --> 00:42:55,759
Speaker 5: of the head, talking crazy. I've seen dudes trying to

849
00:42:55,760 --> 00:42:55,960
Speaker 5: do that.

850
00:42:56,200 --> 00:42:59,200
Speaker 6: Nobody seventy five slapping nobody in the back of the head.

851
00:42:59,239 --> 00:43:02,600
Speaker 5: Still I ain't seeing the seventy five jumped U about

852
00:43:02,600 --> 00:43:04,880
Speaker 5: people in their fifties, Marve, would you agree this is

853
00:43:04,880 --> 00:43:06,839
Speaker 5: a lot of older men out here faking the.

854
00:43:06,800 --> 00:43:10,880
Speaker 3: Phone as more a lot of.

855
00:43:12,560 --> 00:43:13,920
Speaker 6: Fifty six Brother Roslatte.

856
00:43:14,040 --> 00:43:16,279
Speaker 8: Here's no hanging out with twenty year olds talking about

857
00:43:16,280 --> 00:43:17,480
Speaker 8: what you did back in the day.

858
00:43:17,840 --> 00:43:19,840
Speaker 1: If you did what you said you did, you still

859
00:43:19,840 --> 00:43:23,239
Speaker 1: be on death rope. So it's a lot of false scenarios.

860
00:43:23,440 --> 00:43:26,000
Speaker 8: That's why we're in the position were in as blocks,

861
00:43:26,200 --> 00:43:29,680
Speaker 8: because we got thirty years of o GEZ not being

862
00:43:29,719 --> 00:43:33,839
Speaker 8: able to relate to and you got these old dudes misleading,

863
00:43:34,480 --> 00:43:41,160
Speaker 8: misleading kids on what gang activity or what the creation of.

864
00:43:41,480 --> 00:43:44,480
Speaker 1: I can only speak for power from Compton with Blood's

865
00:43:44,560 --> 00:43:45,040
Speaker 1: doing la.

866
00:43:45,360 --> 00:43:47,080
Speaker 4: It's a whole different entity.

867
00:43:48,520 --> 00:43:49,880
Speaker 1: For the Compton car.

868
00:43:50,600 --> 00:43:55,480
Speaker 8: We don't have enough education and us given the real

869
00:43:55,800 --> 00:43:58,960
Speaker 8: of what it's supposed to be done. I ain't got

870
00:43:59,000 --> 00:44:02,279
Speaker 8: no IDs on likes in prison, all my enemies with

871
00:44:02,480 --> 00:44:04,439
Speaker 8: Peckerwoods in Mexicans.

872
00:44:04,040 --> 00:44:05,520
Speaker 1: I ain't never done nothing to a block.

873
00:44:05,600 --> 00:44:06,440
Speaker 3: Ain't had it coming.

874
00:44:06,719 --> 00:44:08,960
Speaker 1: I don't just shoot it, folks. I ain't got no

875
00:44:09,080 --> 00:44:12,520
Speaker 1: cryt matter at me for killing another Curt. I've all

876
00:44:12,600 --> 00:44:16,759
Speaker 1: been economics for these dudes, and I feel the same way.

877
00:44:16,840 --> 00:44:19,880
Speaker 8: Produced been down twenty thirty years and get out of

878
00:44:19,880 --> 00:44:23,560
Speaker 8: here calling themselves, oh jeez, but you done killed or black.

879
00:44:23,840 --> 00:44:26,680
Speaker 1: But you ain't killed no white or or Mexican in

880
00:44:26,719 --> 00:44:28,320
Speaker 1: the penitentiary in thirty years.

881
00:44:28,440 --> 00:44:32,919
Speaker 8: What kind of sense that made there.

882
00:44:32,960 --> 00:44:35,680
Speaker 3: You have it. Still you have it, Marve.

883
00:44:35,760 --> 00:44:38,439
Speaker 5: I appreciate you, man, and we gotta get you on

884
00:44:38,800 --> 00:44:40,120
Speaker 5: mark when you gonna be back in town.

885
00:44:41,520 --> 00:44:45,239
Speaker 1: See, I'll be all this well I leave on the

886
00:44:45,280 --> 00:44:49,040
Speaker 1: aid going to I'll be back from the fifteenth until

887
00:44:49,080 --> 00:44:49,719
Speaker 1: the thirtieth.

888
00:44:49,800 --> 00:44:51,440
Speaker 3: All we we go hook up, man. I won't hook

889
00:44:51,480 --> 00:44:54,480
Speaker 3: up with your big dog on for sure. This man

890
00:44:54,560 --> 00:44:57,120
Speaker 3: loved you, man much love big dog. Love you too,

891
00:44:57,200 --> 00:44:58,879
Speaker 3: man yesterday.

892
00:44:59,200 --> 00:45:01,040
Speaker 7: Yes, sir, when you when you get back, man, we're

893
00:45:01,040 --> 00:45:08,960
Speaker 7: gonna make sure we politics okay for sure.

894
00:45:06,680 --> 00:45:11,000
Speaker 5: For sure be saved about that big dog. That's my

895
00:45:11,080 --> 00:45:13,560
Speaker 5: boy right there. See he's just living on man stuff.

896
00:45:13,600 --> 00:45:16,720
Speaker 5: See that's not him gang banging on no body man stuff.

897
00:45:17,520 --> 00:45:19,560
Speaker 7: You thought it was something different, And that's what I'm saying.

898
00:45:19,600 --> 00:45:22,840
Speaker 7: You persecuting something you don't realize how persecute.

899
00:45:22,920 --> 00:45:25,560
Speaker 3: I just asked. I just asked, is there? Because I

900
00:45:25,600 --> 00:45:26,239
Speaker 3: didn't start it.

901
00:45:26,280 --> 00:45:29,239
Speaker 5: We talked about eight made a reference to Jim Jones, right.

902
00:45:29,800 --> 00:45:33,040
Speaker 5: He said that Jim Jones is winning right now because

903
00:45:33,080 --> 00:45:34,880
Speaker 5: people love authenticity.

904
00:45:35,120 --> 00:45:37,440
Speaker 3: They see him going to these neighborhoods and they like it.

905
00:45:37,760 --> 00:45:47,800
Speaker 4: Yes, I speak on the fact that anytime somebody see

906
00:45:49,239 --> 00:45:53,359
Speaker 4: you know some of this gray or know that your

907
00:45:53,520 --> 00:45:58,399
Speaker 4: career was you know, twenty thirty years ago. And then

908
00:45:59,160 --> 00:46:02,560
Speaker 4: first of all, it's attention because niggas all go. You

909
00:46:02,680 --> 00:46:05,799
Speaker 4: niggas are old, you feel me. That's the first thing

910
00:46:06,080 --> 00:46:10,000
Speaker 4: with the hip hop attag is that you get a

911
00:46:10,000 --> 00:46:13,840
Speaker 4: certain age, then you shouldn't be rapping anymore. And so

912
00:46:14,880 --> 00:46:21,960
Speaker 4: it's kind of a a fucked up situation when a

913
00:46:21,960 --> 00:46:26,520
Speaker 4: lot of your music was neighborhood music and now you're

914
00:46:26,520 --> 00:46:30,680
Speaker 4: fifty years old, and so people frown upon, Oh, this

915
00:46:30,800 --> 00:46:33,600
Speaker 4: nigga was hanging out with the niggas on the block

916
00:46:33,800 --> 00:46:38,040
Speaker 4: last night, and this nigga was incompting with the bloods

917
00:46:38,120 --> 00:46:41,359
Speaker 4: or over at Gonzales Park or this thing, and then

918
00:46:41,400 --> 00:46:43,680
Speaker 4: they frown upont it. Then they go, nigga too old

919
00:46:43,680 --> 00:46:44,600
Speaker 4: to be gang banger.

920
00:46:48,760 --> 00:46:49,640
Speaker 3: This is how I feel.

921
00:46:49,719 --> 00:46:53,120
Speaker 5: Right, I'm gonna speak to him saying about people, you know,

922
00:46:53,800 --> 00:46:55,600
Speaker 5: calling people old and telling people what they're.

923
00:46:55,400 --> 00:46:56,000
Speaker 3: Too old to do.

924
00:46:56,680 --> 00:46:57,839
Speaker 6: First, you doing right now?

925
00:46:58,560 --> 00:47:01,040
Speaker 3: No, listen, hold on, But this the whole different thing, bro.

926
00:47:01,360 --> 00:47:03,320
Speaker 4: I mean, because if I turn around right now, the

927
00:47:03,400 --> 00:47:06,080
Speaker 4: nigga seen me on the corner with some corteas on

928
00:47:06,400 --> 00:47:09,520
Speaker 4: and some khakis and a white T shirt. First thing

929
00:47:09,520 --> 00:47:11,279
Speaker 4: they gonna say is that nigga ate too old to

930
00:47:11,320 --> 00:47:14,880
Speaker 4: be gang banging out here. And nig put on some

931
00:47:14,960 --> 00:47:19,320
Speaker 4: cortes and some khakis today. But that fits the demographic

932
00:47:19,400 --> 00:47:22,799
Speaker 4: of I used to gang back or whatever, and I

933
00:47:22,920 --> 00:47:25,440
Speaker 4: used to rap or whatever, and I talk about the

934
00:47:25,480 --> 00:47:29,279
Speaker 4: hood and all that shit. So with you, you you

935
00:47:29,440 --> 00:47:31,759
Speaker 4: too old to be doing that ship. You should be

936
00:47:31,960 --> 00:47:35,840
Speaker 4: uplifting the nigga. You should be telling niggas you know

937
00:47:36,320 --> 00:47:38,799
Speaker 4: how to come up and get out out of this ship,

938
00:47:39,040 --> 00:47:40,960
Speaker 4: get up out of that, and get up out of that.

939
00:47:41,239 --> 00:47:46,040
Speaker 4: So they tag us to a certain extent of of

940
00:47:46,040 --> 00:47:51,879
Speaker 4: of and I say, the nigga winning because it's still

941
00:47:51,960 --> 00:47:56,760
Speaker 4: niggas in the hood. It's still niggas in the hood.

942
00:47:57,200 --> 00:48:00,359
Speaker 4: And they don't look at it like that. They look

943
00:48:00,440 --> 00:48:04,520
Speaker 4: at it like we got representation of us and we

944
00:48:04,640 --> 00:48:07,840
Speaker 4: loved that type of shit. But everybody frowns on it.

945
00:48:07,920 --> 00:48:09,840
Speaker 4: It says it's too old to be done.

946
00:48:10,920 --> 00:48:15,040
Speaker 7: My big homie pluck sixty, that's my low right now.

947
00:48:15,040 --> 00:48:16,400
Speaker 7: If I hit him up, you gonna be like, what up?

948
00:48:16,480 --> 00:48:19,000
Speaker 7: Cause if I hit Ice Tea right now because was

949
00:48:19,000 --> 00:48:20,400
Speaker 7: born in fifty eight You're gonna be like, what up,

950
00:48:20,440 --> 00:48:21,560
Speaker 7: g Becuz I love that.

951
00:48:23,680 --> 00:48:26,000
Speaker 5: See that's just them being who they are. Gee, that's

952
00:48:26,080 --> 00:48:27,840
Speaker 5: you know what I'm saying. Bro, You just trying to

953
00:48:27,960 --> 00:48:29,400
Speaker 5: just tell you.

954
00:48:29,480 --> 00:48:33,080
Speaker 7: I think you have this negative perception like an outsider,

955
00:48:33,200 --> 00:48:35,400
Speaker 7: even though you saw it up close and personal.

956
00:48:35,440 --> 00:48:37,359
Speaker 6: So I think that's the disingenuous part.

957
00:48:37,800 --> 00:48:42,719
Speaker 7: Like we were something talking about it earlier today where

958
00:48:42,719 --> 00:48:44,759
Speaker 7: you was talking about how fabian that brought you in.

959
00:48:45,040 --> 00:48:47,520
Speaker 7: They made sure you ate, they made sure you made

960
00:48:47,520 --> 00:48:49,880
Speaker 7: some money, they looked out for you, they showed you

961
00:48:49,960 --> 00:48:52,080
Speaker 7: genuine interests. I'm sure it come with some other shit,

962
00:48:52,200 --> 00:48:54,960
Speaker 7: but it comes with love, right, because that's just how

963
00:48:55,000 --> 00:48:55,319
Speaker 7: we live.

964
00:48:55,760 --> 00:49:00,520
Speaker 5: But if you do really just genuine people, No, that's

965
00:49:00,600 --> 00:49:01,799
Speaker 5: what most homies is.

966
00:49:02,239 --> 00:49:03,560
Speaker 6: Most homies is like that.

967
00:49:03,880 --> 00:49:06,120
Speaker 7: There are situations that break down and you get the

968
00:49:06,120 --> 00:49:08,200
Speaker 7: worst of some people who've been through a lot, and

969
00:49:08,239 --> 00:49:10,760
Speaker 7: that's just what comes with being from a poor community.

970
00:49:10,800 --> 00:49:11,080
Speaker 3: Period.

971
00:49:11,080 --> 00:49:14,479
Speaker 7: People been traumatized, people, friends and shot people, mom died people,

972
00:49:14,520 --> 00:49:16,719
Speaker 7: mama on drugs, a lot of mental things that is

973
00:49:16,760 --> 00:49:20,279
Speaker 7: happening to people traumatically, and then that becomes a representation

974
00:49:20,400 --> 00:49:22,799
Speaker 7: of what people think gag bagging is. But No, that

975
00:49:22,840 --> 00:49:26,000
Speaker 7: person is just a fractual person. I got homies. My

976
00:49:26,080 --> 00:49:26,800
Speaker 7: homies right.

977
00:49:26,719 --> 00:49:28,280
Speaker 6: Now was grown and all adults.

978
00:49:28,280 --> 00:49:30,279
Speaker 7: Them niggas take care of their family. They take care

979
00:49:30,320 --> 00:49:33,000
Speaker 7: of their grandkids. They do all of the same thing

980
00:49:33,160 --> 00:49:35,920
Speaker 7: any man do, no different than eight go to their

981
00:49:36,040 --> 00:49:38,880
Speaker 7: kids football games. They do all the same shit, and

982
00:49:38,920 --> 00:49:41,520
Speaker 7: if you play with them, they'll hurt you.

983
00:49:41,600 --> 00:49:43,600
Speaker 6: That's still gang bagging at that age.

984
00:49:43,800 --> 00:49:47,239
Speaker 7: They shouldn't represent in the community.

985
00:49:47,480 --> 00:49:48,879
Speaker 3: To me, that's just being a man.

986
00:49:49,080 --> 00:49:49,520
Speaker 6: That's what.

987
00:49:51,400 --> 00:49:54,239
Speaker 5: I've seen some see. I think me and you you

988
00:49:54,280 --> 00:49:56,239
Speaker 5: know what I'm talking about. You know what I'm saying right.

989
00:49:57,120 --> 00:49:59,040
Speaker 5: The thing is, Gee, that's me and stuff to me.

990
00:49:59,440 --> 00:50:00,120
Speaker 5: If you've met.

991
00:50:01,520 --> 00:50:04,200
Speaker 7: Do something to you, Yeah, but you're gonna do it

992
00:50:04,239 --> 00:50:06,239
Speaker 7: within the laws. Ramification.

993
00:50:06,760 --> 00:50:08,640
Speaker 3: No, when I get on your ass, I really gonna

994
00:50:08,640 --> 00:50:12,439
Speaker 3: get on your point.

995
00:50:13,520 --> 00:50:15,640
Speaker 7: It is gonna matter because that's the only thing that

996
00:50:15,680 --> 00:50:17,799
Speaker 7: makes you not a gang banger. That's the only thing

997
00:50:17,840 --> 00:50:20,960
Speaker 7: that makes the everyday civilian not a ganger. The law

998
00:50:21,040 --> 00:50:23,719
Speaker 7: becomes the ultimate standard of how they gonna live their life.

999
00:50:24,040 --> 00:50:26,600
Speaker 7: People like that come from all walk of life. They're

1000
00:50:26,680 --> 00:50:29,279
Speaker 7: not The law is not the ultimate judge of how

1001
00:50:29,280 --> 00:50:29,879
Speaker 7: they gonna live.

1002
00:50:29,920 --> 00:50:31,799
Speaker 6: Their life. They're not just why we.

1003
00:50:32,480 --> 00:50:36,080
Speaker 4: Didn't think about ship. We didn't think about Nigga. I

1004
00:50:36,200 --> 00:50:40,000
Speaker 4: know if I get caught in Ali selling rocks that whatever, Nigga,

1005
00:50:40,120 --> 00:50:42,839
Speaker 4: I'm going to jail. You feel me. I know if

1006
00:50:42,880 --> 00:50:44,600
Speaker 4: I jump in the car and we go do this

1007
00:50:44,760 --> 00:50:48,400
Speaker 4: busting and nigga, I'm going to jail like there was

1008
00:50:48,440 --> 00:50:51,560
Speaker 4: no like, hmm, should I do this because I could

1009
00:50:51,600 --> 00:50:55,359
Speaker 4: get time and I could. Nigga, were going to mount up.

1010
00:50:55,680 --> 00:50:59,319
Speaker 4: We're going to mount up if there's no thinking and

1011
00:50:59,360 --> 00:51:04,080
Speaker 4: in an average citizen like you, you gonna be like, yeah,

1012
00:51:04,080 --> 00:51:06,080
Speaker 4: I'm gonna jump in the car with y'all. But then

1013
00:51:06,160 --> 00:51:09,520
Speaker 4: while we rolling, I'm gonna be I'm gonna be Cuba

1014
00:51:09,800 --> 00:51:12,439
Speaker 4: and I'm gonna be like it was too late. Let

1015
00:51:12,520 --> 00:51:15,880
Speaker 4: me the fuck out now, my niggas, but you know

1016
00:51:17,200 --> 00:51:23,319
Speaker 4: this way because you in my neighborhood and we doing that.

1017
00:51:23,560 --> 00:51:25,600
Speaker 4: Oh you're about to claim the hood. You're gonna be

1018
00:51:25,640 --> 00:51:28,160
Speaker 4: from the hood or it's gonna probably be some conflict

1019
00:51:28,360 --> 00:51:33,440
Speaker 4: when you say no, because now niggas, niggas is looking

1020
00:51:33,520 --> 00:51:37,960
Speaker 4: at you like you the home over here, you serving

1021
00:51:38,040 --> 00:51:41,319
Speaker 4: with us, you eating with us. Niggas come through and

1022
00:51:41,440 --> 00:51:45,560
Speaker 4: bus you're pulling out the deuceduce and busting back why

1023
00:51:45,640 --> 00:51:48,760
Speaker 4: you ain't from the hood. And then when you start

1024
00:51:48,800 --> 00:51:51,960
Speaker 4: going now and now I'm gonna start thinking something is

1025
00:51:52,000 --> 00:51:52,480
Speaker 4: the problem?

1026
00:51:52,560 --> 00:51:53,680
Speaker 6: You just taking advantage.

1027
00:51:54,360 --> 00:51:56,680
Speaker 4: Might go on a few enemies in the hood now

1028
00:51:56,840 --> 00:51:58,600
Speaker 4: because of that, because.

1029
00:51:58,320 --> 00:52:00,759
Speaker 7: Now you're just taking advantage of us.

1030
00:52:00,800 --> 00:52:01,000
Speaker 3: Man.

1031
00:52:01,040 --> 00:52:02,799
Speaker 5: You know what, though, I'm gonna tell you don got

1032
00:52:02,960 --> 00:52:07,040
Speaker 5: troops and finally told you the day that Finely got

1033
00:52:07,120 --> 00:52:09,360
Speaker 5: locked up was the day he was playing. He told me,

1034
00:52:09,400 --> 00:52:10,960
Speaker 5: he said, we was gonna put you on. You was

1035
00:52:10,960 --> 00:52:13,399
Speaker 5: gonna be from Long Beach, insane. We was gonna beat

1036
00:52:13,400 --> 00:52:15,040
Speaker 5: your ass. You was gonna show up, We was gonna

1037
00:52:15,080 --> 00:52:17,760
Speaker 5: jump your ass. We was gonna jump your big ass. Rustan,

1038
00:52:17,760 --> 00:52:19,919
Speaker 5: you would have been from a hood because everybody said,

1039
00:52:20,000 --> 00:52:22,239
Speaker 5: this dude is always with us, how come he is

1040
00:52:22,400 --> 00:52:22,960
Speaker 5: from the hood.

1041
00:52:23,280 --> 00:52:27,080
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, back then, man, back then, Lord T was

1042
00:52:27,120 --> 00:52:30,160
Speaker 4: everything like nigga, you ain't coming over here drinking up

1043
00:52:30,160 --> 00:52:34,960
Speaker 4: the forties. Yeah, making a couple of dollars off the corner,

1044
00:52:35,280 --> 00:52:37,920
Speaker 4: and you ain't trying to be from insane.

1045
00:52:38,080 --> 00:52:40,440
Speaker 3: America, America America.

1046
00:52:40,520 --> 00:52:42,359
Speaker 7: The same way he when it comes to a drift,

1047
00:52:42,360 --> 00:52:44,520
Speaker 7: they like what you ain't trying to fight you.

1048
00:52:44,520 --> 00:52:49,280
Speaker 3: You benefit off this country exactly. Draft.

1049
00:52:49,840 --> 00:52:53,879
Speaker 4: Oh you feelings if you joining up right now?

1050
00:52:54,080 --> 00:52:55,080
Speaker 6: Oh you're going to jail?

1051
00:52:55,840 --> 00:52:58,040
Speaker 4: Yeah? Which one you are? Do you will go to

1052
00:52:58,120 --> 00:53:00,839
Speaker 4: jail or you gonna draft. You're gonna ain't up. Put

1053
00:53:00,880 --> 00:53:05,080
Speaker 4: that green rag in your back pocket. And this motherfucker tell.

1054
00:53:05,000 --> 00:53:07,400
Speaker 5: Me all the time, he said, if I wouldn't have

1055
00:53:07,560 --> 00:53:09,520
Speaker 5: to jailing, nigga be from me insane. I'm telling you

1056
00:53:09,520 --> 00:53:12,560
Speaker 5: he did serious. He said we would go weak your ass.

1057
00:53:12,400 --> 00:53:13,879
Speaker 6: Cuz them niggas taken care.

1058
00:53:14,120 --> 00:53:17,799
Speaker 7: Listen, I keep telling you being a game member is

1059
00:53:17,880 --> 00:53:21,280
Speaker 7: not the dumb ass thing that people think. It's really

1060
00:53:21,360 --> 00:53:23,840
Speaker 7: just everybody you knew growing up. For the most part,

1061
00:53:24,239 --> 00:53:28,200
Speaker 7: these all the same people. Y'all committing crimes together. Don't

1062
00:53:28,239 --> 00:53:30,399
Speaker 7: always be about crimes. Most of the days in the hood,

1063
00:53:30,400 --> 00:53:33,360
Speaker 7: it's like Friday, You just chilling and you're joking with niggas.

1064
00:53:33,360 --> 00:53:36,200
Speaker 7: You try to make some money, somebody lying about something,

1065
00:53:36,200 --> 00:53:38,360
Speaker 7: you calling a nigga out online. You may fight, you

1066
00:53:38,440 --> 00:53:40,319
Speaker 7: know what I mean. It ain't the way everybody think.

1067
00:53:40,400 --> 00:53:43,120
Speaker 7: It's really a camaraderie. I'm not trying to sell it

1068
00:53:43,160 --> 00:53:44,919
Speaker 7: to people that because if you ain't grow up where

1069
00:53:44,920 --> 00:53:45,480
Speaker 7: we're from.

1070
00:53:45,520 --> 00:53:47,160
Speaker 6: I really think you shouldn't be able to be from

1071
00:53:47,160 --> 00:53:47,479
Speaker 6: the hood.

1072
00:53:48,480 --> 00:53:51,960
Speaker 5: Man, I almost lost my football stuff. She behind that, Man.

1073
00:53:52,400 --> 00:53:55,600
Speaker 5: I started hanging out with them, dude so much, man,

1074
00:53:55,719 --> 00:53:56,840
Speaker 5: doing what I was doing?

1075
00:53:57,280 --> 00:53:59,360
Speaker 3: Did I stopped going to class.

1076
00:53:59,880 --> 00:54:02,759
Speaker 5: I would go to practice, but I'm like staying out

1077
00:54:02,800 --> 00:54:05,520
Speaker 5: there all day and catch the bus to practice and

1078
00:54:05,600 --> 00:54:07,920
Speaker 5: ride back one of the homies and go back because

1079
00:54:07,960 --> 00:54:11,120
Speaker 5: it was fun. Dog, we did stuff. I made money, Man,

1080
00:54:11,719 --> 00:54:15,439
Speaker 5: I had some influence I had. It was good, dog,

1081
00:54:15,480 --> 00:54:17,480
Speaker 5: it was fun. I could see how young dude is

1082
00:54:17,520 --> 00:54:18,160
Speaker 5: attracted to.

1083
00:54:18,120 --> 00:54:23,600
Speaker 6: That, but you're not really supposed to It's not really like.

1084
00:54:23,719 --> 00:54:26,759
Speaker 7: I don't know how somebody gets put on a game

1085
00:54:26,880 --> 00:54:28,920
Speaker 7: that didn't grow up with the people, Like, how do

1086
00:54:29,000 --> 00:54:31,080
Speaker 7: you even motivate yourself to go shoot for a bunch

1087
00:54:31,120 --> 00:54:33,680
Speaker 7: of strangers. You might as well join the army or

1088
00:54:33,680 --> 00:54:35,719
Speaker 7: the Marines at that point. At least they gonna pay you.

1089
00:54:36,360 --> 00:54:37,280
Speaker 3: Like my homies.

1090
00:54:37,920 --> 00:54:39,560
Speaker 7: My homies is different, you know what I mean. I

1091
00:54:39,600 --> 00:54:42,520
Speaker 7: knew on my whole life, the young ones I raised them.

1092
00:54:42,560 --> 00:54:46,279
Speaker 7: The older homies raised me even before I wasn't doing nothing.

1093
00:54:46,280 --> 00:54:47,839
Speaker 7: When I was going to school, I would see them

1094
00:54:47,880 --> 00:54:50,640
Speaker 7: every day mean the people in my age, we would

1095
00:54:50,640 --> 00:54:54,239
Speaker 7: play as kids. So that is the motivation when something

1096
00:54:54,280 --> 00:54:56,719
Speaker 7: go wrong, to go stand up for them. It ain't

1097
00:54:56,719 --> 00:54:58,480
Speaker 7: got nothing to do with that sign at the corner.

1098
00:54:58,880 --> 00:55:01,400
Speaker 7: That's just what we call it. That sign don't mean nothing.

1099
00:55:01,760 --> 00:55:04,200
Speaker 7: The blood running through my own boy body means something.

1100
00:55:05,440 --> 00:55:08,439
Speaker 7: The sign don't mean nothing. The sign means us. That's

1101
00:55:08,480 --> 00:55:10,479
Speaker 7: all it means. And we gonna be that way even

1102
00:55:10,520 --> 00:55:13,200
Speaker 7: when we somewhere else. They don't have nothing to do

1103
00:55:13,280 --> 00:55:15,280
Speaker 7: with that. So I think a lot of the perception

1104
00:55:15,400 --> 00:55:17,759
Speaker 7: of gang banging is rut and in ignorance. People don't know,

1105
00:55:17,840 --> 00:55:20,319
Speaker 7: so they think it's something more than just really some

1106
00:55:20,400 --> 00:55:23,279
Speaker 7: people from this area coming up together, trying to make

1107
00:55:23,320 --> 00:55:26,240
Speaker 7: something of themself. So when you're saying to me, somebody

1108
00:55:26,280 --> 00:55:28,520
Speaker 7: at sixty five gang banging, I'm looking like, what do

1109
00:55:28,560 --> 00:55:30,160
Speaker 7: you mean? What are they doing? Are they out there

1110
00:55:30,239 --> 00:55:32,480
Speaker 7: selling dope? Do you think I see something wrong with

1111
00:55:32,480 --> 00:55:34,600
Speaker 7: somebody sixty five selling dope? How else they gonna make

1112
00:55:34,640 --> 00:55:37,080
Speaker 7: their money? What are they doing? What else could they

1113
00:55:37,120 --> 00:55:39,959
Speaker 7: be doing? Are they out there? Did somebody do something

1114
00:55:39,960 --> 00:55:42,319
Speaker 7: today today, little homie, and they busting.

1115
00:55:42,000 --> 00:55:44,759
Speaker 3: At sixty five? You a cold nigga.

1116
00:55:44,880 --> 00:55:47,799
Speaker 7: If you sixty five hopping in the car to go

1117
00:55:47,840 --> 00:55:49,000
Speaker 7: get somebody, I'm.

1118
00:55:48,800 --> 00:55:51,240
Speaker 3: Not playing with him. That nigga serious.

1119
00:55:51,280 --> 00:55:53,640
Speaker 7: And this for sure got to be his thirtieth time

1120
00:55:53,719 --> 00:55:55,279
Speaker 7: doing this because you don't just pick up the heart

1121
00:55:55,280 --> 00:55:57,359
Speaker 7: at sixty five to do this. That means you didn't

1122
00:55:57,360 --> 00:55:59,080
Speaker 7: get away with this a lot of times or you

1123
00:55:59,160 --> 00:56:02,239
Speaker 7: just got out of jail for doing this. Either way,

1124
00:56:02,440 --> 00:56:04,400
Speaker 7: I'm not playing with that man in sixty five. That's

1125
00:56:04,440 --> 00:56:06,200
Speaker 7: gonna hop in the course. Still, So when you ask,

1126
00:56:06,280 --> 00:56:08,560
Speaker 7: you know what I thought about old to push a right?

1127
00:56:10,320 --> 00:56:13,839
Speaker 3: You know what I just thought about? Right? Yeah, dude,

1128
00:56:13,920 --> 00:56:15,080
Speaker 3: tell your mafia right.

1129
00:56:16,600 --> 00:56:19,040
Speaker 5: Them dudes don't usually get made until they in they

1130
00:56:19,120 --> 00:56:23,279
Speaker 5: either their thirties or they older, right, and they move

1131
00:56:23,360 --> 00:56:25,279
Speaker 5: on up. Most of the bosses of mafia is who

1132
00:56:25,360 --> 00:56:26,200
Speaker 5: older people? Right?

1133
00:56:26,800 --> 00:56:28,560
Speaker 3: Do you think it's a devil standing when it come

1134
00:56:28,640 --> 00:56:32,279
Speaker 3: to that, y'all think you be? I think yes you are.

1135
00:56:32,400 --> 00:56:34,920
Speaker 7: I think yes, y'all are racist and prejudice when it

1136
00:56:34,960 --> 00:56:36,719
Speaker 7: comes to black people and how we grew up together

1137
00:56:36,719 --> 00:56:38,880
Speaker 7: as poor people. But y'all watch the movies with them

1138
00:56:38,920 --> 00:56:40,720
Speaker 7: old white men, and y'all look up to that. Y'all

1139
00:56:40,800 --> 00:56:43,640
Speaker 7: they cool because they wearing suits. Man, fuck them suits.

1140
00:56:44,080 --> 00:56:47,640
Speaker 7: The motherfuckers murder. The motherfuckers murder everybody. The motherfuckers.

1141
00:56:47,880 --> 00:56:49,800
Speaker 6: Man, game Backer can't couse people with no mafia.

1142
00:56:49,840 --> 00:56:51,880
Speaker 7: The mafia people will put a hit over your ass

1143
00:56:51,920 --> 00:56:52,560
Speaker 7: on everything.

1144
00:56:52,600 --> 00:56:56,640
Speaker 3: They will and they not. They not like you guys.

1145
00:56:56,040 --> 00:56:59,600
Speaker 4: Being a hundred motherfuckers eating green in the restaurant, don't

1146
00:56:59,640 --> 00:57:03,200
Speaker 4: tell soul. Like the nigga just laying there dead at

1147
00:57:03,239 --> 00:57:04,880
Speaker 4: the table, just got smoked.

1148
00:57:06,680 --> 00:57:08,360
Speaker 6: They baried you somewhere.

1149
00:57:08,200 --> 00:57:13,080
Speaker 4: For me and niggas is don't say nothing. So all

1150
00:57:13,160 --> 00:57:17,040
Speaker 4: our reputation of gang banging has always frowned upon. I

1151
00:57:17,080 --> 00:57:19,280
Speaker 4: think just because it's a black thing. I don't know

1152
00:57:19,360 --> 00:57:24,320
Speaker 4: you know any white people. We do is the people

1153
00:57:24,440 --> 00:57:30,400
Speaker 4: is frowned upon game. Niggas playing sports and they get

1154
00:57:30,400 --> 00:57:33,800
Speaker 4: the dancing in the end zone has frowned upon. And man,

1155
00:57:33,840 --> 00:57:36,960
Speaker 4: why they do it? They are why you can't They

1156
00:57:37,040 --> 00:57:39,640
Speaker 4: just frowned upon Kendrick at the at the super Bowl

1157
00:57:39,720 --> 00:57:42,920
Speaker 4: before you get me. But you know, fuck it, we

1158
00:57:43,360 --> 00:57:46,000
Speaker 4: take it on and keep it pushing because we know

1159
00:57:46,040 --> 00:57:47,240
Speaker 4: who we are, the people.

1160
00:57:47,320 --> 00:57:49,560
Speaker 3: That's all. What was you gonna say about Sammy?

1161
00:57:49,720 --> 00:57:54,240
Speaker 7: You Sammy, that murdered over twenty some people. Peop be

1162
00:57:54,280 --> 00:57:58,040
Speaker 7: doing people podcast right now. He then told on people

1163
00:57:58,160 --> 00:58:00,840
Speaker 7: murdered on in people and he be on podcasts and

1164
00:58:00,840 --> 00:58:02,919
Speaker 7: everybody looking up to him. But you see a crip.

1165
00:58:03,000 --> 00:58:04,920
Speaker 7: He didn't probably shot two three niggas. You're like, oh,

1166
00:58:04,960 --> 00:58:06,560
Speaker 7: this nigga a scumm of the earth.

1167
00:58:07,320 --> 00:58:12,080
Speaker 4: Or or or he the snitch. It's the biggest snitch

1168
00:58:12,160 --> 00:58:14,680
Speaker 4: or rat or whatever they wanted to go to. He

1169
00:58:14,720 --> 00:58:18,520
Speaker 4: lived comfortably every day, don't it an't worried about a motherfucker.

1170
00:58:18,800 --> 00:58:22,440
Speaker 7: Look on his YouTube information it's a sabatear Sammy de

1171
00:58:22,480 --> 00:58:26,880
Speaker 7: Boy Gravano. He got six hundred and twenty five thousand hours,

1172
00:58:26,960 --> 00:58:30,080
Speaker 7: one hundred and twenty seven million views. He done killed

1173
00:58:30,120 --> 00:58:33,120
Speaker 7: all these people for no reason. So many people that

1174
00:58:33,280 --> 00:58:35,280
Speaker 7: died for just because some simple shit. They didn't want

1175
00:58:35,280 --> 00:58:37,240
Speaker 7: to turn over money for their business and he knocked

1176
00:58:37,240 --> 00:58:39,880
Speaker 7: their motherfucker head off and they didn't bury their body.

1177
00:58:39,880 --> 00:58:41,280
Speaker 6: They family still ain't found them.

1178
00:58:41,440 --> 00:58:44,480
Speaker 7: He on motherfucking YouTube with a million subscribers, and you

1179
00:58:44,560 --> 00:58:46,360
Speaker 7: niggas want to talk to me about old game Baker.

1180
00:58:46,400 --> 00:58:48,880
Speaker 7: He on their that man every bit of seventy nine

1181
00:58:48,920 --> 00:58:51,200
Speaker 7: on there talking about who he murdered back the mother

1182
00:58:51,280 --> 00:58:53,160
Speaker 7: fuck in nineteen sixty seven, And you want to talk

1183
00:58:53,160 --> 00:58:58,080
Speaker 7: to me about gaming, talk about that. I wish the

1184
00:58:58,240 --> 00:59:00,360
Speaker 7: old game banker would, I imagine took you at channel.

1185
00:59:00,360 --> 00:59:04,680
Speaker 7: He wouldn't have a million followers. You nigga be game member.

1186
00:59:04,800 --> 00:59:06,960
Speaker 7: You see what they did the tiki they killed, TOOKI

1187
00:59:07,120 --> 00:59:10,440
Speaker 7: over allegedly robbing a man at seven eleven and robbing

1188
00:59:10,440 --> 00:59:14,080
Speaker 7: somebody and shooting him at a hotel allegedly. This motherfuck

1189
00:59:14,160 --> 00:59:17,720
Speaker 7: that's two people. He got the death penalty. They put

1190
00:59:17,720 --> 00:59:20,240
Speaker 7: that motherfucker underneath it. He changed his life, wrote books,

1191
00:59:20,280 --> 00:59:24,120
Speaker 7: all kind of shit. They killed that motherfucker. Still, Sammy

1192
00:59:24,160 --> 00:59:26,520
Speaker 7: the bull set up. They figured out he set up

1193
00:59:26,520 --> 00:59:28,040
Speaker 7: twenty murders. So you know it's way more than that,

1194
00:59:28,040 --> 00:59:30,400
Speaker 7: because they didn't figure them all out. This motherfucker and

1195
00:59:30,520 --> 00:59:33,120
Speaker 7: went got out of jail after murdering all in people,

1196
00:59:34,360 --> 00:59:36,720
Speaker 7: right after murdering all in people, got out of jail,

1197
00:59:36,800 --> 00:59:41,040
Speaker 7: starts selling dope in Arizona, went back to jail, got.

1198
00:59:40,800 --> 00:59:43,800
Speaker 3: Out and started a fucking YouTube channel. And you interviewed him.

1199
00:59:43,960 --> 00:59:46,200
Speaker 6: But you want to sit here ridicue me about is

1200
00:59:46,240 --> 00:59:47,640
Speaker 6: it too? Is a gang bang?

1201
00:59:49,760 --> 00:59:53,240
Speaker 7: This mother told on everybody. He talked to a million

1202
00:59:53,280 --> 00:59:56,160
Speaker 7: subscribers about what he did in nineteen seventy two.

1203
00:59:58,240 --> 00:59:59,880
Speaker 6: All niggas is hypocrites.

1204
01:00:00,040 --> 01:00:03,880
Speaker 4: But we frown upon our own type. You get me.

1205
01:00:04,120 --> 01:00:07,920
Speaker 4: That's that's it's always that. You know, you'll see people like, oh,

1206
01:00:07,920 --> 01:00:10,440
Speaker 4: why this nigga's still doing all? You too old and

1207
01:00:10,560 --> 01:00:12,720
Speaker 4: you did this bigga still representing.

1208
01:00:16,760 --> 01:00:17,040
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1209
01:00:17,080 --> 01:00:20,240
Speaker 5: Man, first of all, the whole getting old thing. Man,

1210
01:00:20,280 --> 01:00:22,640
Speaker 5: When somebody told me the other day, man, you get old.

1211
01:00:22,680 --> 01:00:25,320
Speaker 5: I said, Man, this ain't like you. You say that,

1212
01:00:25,360 --> 01:00:28,240
Speaker 5: like you hurt my feelings or something. This is my strength.

1213
01:00:28,240 --> 01:00:30,680
Speaker 5: This is my bags of honor. You know how much

1214
01:00:30,720 --> 01:00:32,440
Speaker 5: stuff I don't been through? You know much stuff? You

1215
01:00:32,480 --> 01:00:34,720
Speaker 5: don't been through. You have much stuff eight donet been through.

1216
01:00:35,840 --> 01:00:38,120
Speaker 5: It's like we don't been through some stuff. Man, we

1217
01:00:38,160 --> 01:00:42,320
Speaker 5: don't have been through some some circumstances to get these

1218
01:00:42,360 --> 01:00:43,600
Speaker 5: grades in our bigs. You know.

1219
01:00:44,440 --> 01:00:46,240
Speaker 3: Yeah, So I'm proud of it.

1220
01:00:46,320 --> 01:00:46,480
Speaker 5: Man.

1221
01:00:46,840 --> 01:00:49,000
Speaker 3: Ain't nobody ever tell me it's nothing about being old.

1222
01:00:49,000 --> 01:00:49,800
Speaker 3: It's my strength.

1223
01:00:50,240 --> 01:00:53,840
Speaker 7: That's why I won't let you convict me on this crippon.

1224
01:00:54,560 --> 01:00:56,720
Speaker 6: Like I'm out here being a great representation.

1225
01:00:56,800 --> 01:00:58,880
Speaker 7: I look at people like dogging them them people being

1226
01:00:58,920 --> 01:01:02,440
Speaker 7: great representation what we could become and still be proud

1227
01:01:02,440 --> 01:01:04,840
Speaker 7: of everything we've been through. I look at eight, all

1228
01:01:04,880 --> 01:01:07,720
Speaker 7: the older armies and people that walk the path that

1229
01:01:07,800 --> 01:01:09,680
Speaker 7: I walk and then made it in the music industry

1230
01:01:09,680 --> 01:01:12,200
Speaker 7: and changed their life, and shit, hell no, I don't

1231
01:01:12,240 --> 01:01:14,479
Speaker 7: think they too old to be where they're from. I'm

1232
01:01:14,560 --> 01:01:18,040
Speaker 7: proud that MC eight is still m C eight. That

1233
01:01:18,160 --> 01:01:20,040
Speaker 7: mean the world to me that he ain't woke up

1234
01:01:20,040 --> 01:01:21,480
Speaker 7: one day he was like, you know what, I'm too old.

1235
01:01:21,520 --> 01:01:25,320
Speaker 7: I'm just aaron. No that nigga ate right now, that

1236
01:01:25,440 --> 01:01:28,360
Speaker 7: nigga message his phone say big o cho when you

1237
01:01:28,400 --> 01:01:31,920
Speaker 7: see that, that's Big eight. I love when I look

1238
01:01:31,920 --> 01:01:34,120
Speaker 7: at someone I see Snoop Dogg of Ice Tea. Why

1239
01:01:34,120 --> 01:01:38,880
Speaker 7: should we be ashamed of R Street cultural experiences, feemy?

1240
01:01:38,960 --> 01:01:40,640
Speaker 7: If you're a righteous man, n' the fuck I you

1241
01:01:40,760 --> 01:01:43,000
Speaker 7: the law ain't the ultimate judge in his life.

1242
01:01:43,160 --> 01:01:43,520
Speaker 3: Sign me.

1243
01:01:43,600 --> 01:01:46,320
Speaker 7: The bull got a million subscribers down there on fucking

1244
01:01:46,360 --> 01:01:48,800
Speaker 7: YouTube from talking about telling on these people and killing

1245
01:01:48,800 --> 01:01:50,880
Speaker 7: all these people. And you want me to look at

1246
01:01:51,080 --> 01:01:54,120
Speaker 7: some older black man that's, you know, surviving the best

1247
01:01:54,160 --> 01:01:56,200
Speaker 7: way he can and be looking at him like, man,

1248
01:01:56,200 --> 01:01:56,640
Speaker 7: you too old?

1249
01:01:56,680 --> 01:01:57,120
Speaker 6: To be doing that.

1250
01:01:58,440 --> 01:02:00,680
Speaker 3: Fuck all that them all white me. How old was

1251
01:02:00,680 --> 01:02:05,360
Speaker 3: Paulie when they killed Paulie Pauli on a on a

1252
01:02:05,400 --> 01:02:10,240
Speaker 3: good feelers, No Big Paulie. Oh you talking about sopranos.

1253
01:02:10,640 --> 01:02:13,080
Speaker 7: No, no Big Paulie, the real big party that got

1254
01:02:13,160 --> 01:02:17,880
Speaker 7: killed that when power mc john got he took power

1255
01:02:17,960 --> 01:02:24,640
Speaker 7: hold on Big Paulie. College Uh Constellano, Big paul died.

1256
01:02:27,560 --> 01:02:32,120
Speaker 7: That man was seventy, the one that got killed out

1257
01:02:32,120 --> 01:02:34,919
Speaker 7: in front of the Sparks Steakhouse in the Lincoln back

1258
01:02:34,920 --> 01:02:42,320
Speaker 7: in the seventy How old was the people that probably

1259
01:02:42,360 --> 01:02:46,320
Speaker 7: some mother old man knocked him down? Maybe ship let

1260
01:02:46,360 --> 01:02:48,000
Speaker 7: them tell it. They say, God, he set it up

1261
01:02:48,000 --> 01:02:52,360
Speaker 7: based off the movies. But they didn't he gonna move

1262
01:02:52,400 --> 01:02:54,400
Speaker 7: out the way. They knew that man wasn't playing with them.

1263
01:02:54,440 --> 01:02:56,120
Speaker 7: They knew if they didn't take that man head off

1264
01:02:56,120 --> 01:02:57,480
Speaker 7: and try to take his job, that man would have

1265
01:02:57,480 --> 01:02:59,280
Speaker 7: had all them people killing their family killed.

1266
01:03:00,120 --> 01:03:02,960
Speaker 3: Yeah for real, for real. So when y'a asking me,

1267
01:03:03,000 --> 01:03:04,640
Speaker 3: when y'all asking me, is there two age?

1268
01:03:05,280 --> 01:03:07,680
Speaker 7: First off, if you sixty you hit somebody twenty five

1269
01:03:07,760 --> 01:03:09,920
Speaker 7: upside their head, they probably gonna whoop your fucking ass.

1270
01:03:09,960 --> 01:03:12,280
Speaker 7: So you ain't finna be out there slapping nobody upside

1271
01:03:12,320 --> 01:03:12,760
Speaker 7: their head.

1272
01:03:13,360 --> 01:03:13,960
Speaker 3: Part two.

1273
01:03:14,360 --> 01:03:16,680
Speaker 6: If you sixty five and you walk around as motherfucking

1274
01:03:16,720 --> 01:03:18,720
Speaker 6: the rag, you ain't finna get away from nobody shooting

1275
01:03:18,760 --> 01:03:18,960
Speaker 6: at you.

1276
01:03:19,040 --> 01:03:21,760
Speaker 7: So you want to die anyway, your bague of food.

1277
01:03:21,960 --> 01:03:24,800
Speaker 7: Either way, Lord knows. If you Sissy six and you

1278
01:03:24,840 --> 01:03:26,479
Speaker 7: hopping the car to go put in work, I don't

1279
01:03:26,480 --> 01:03:28,960
Speaker 7: want to say nothing bad about you, period, because obviously

1280
01:03:29,000 --> 01:03:32,040
Speaker 7: you are a professional. If you Sissy six jumping in

1281
01:03:32,040 --> 01:03:34,400
Speaker 7: the card goo, shoot, that's some nigga. Still you gotta

1282
01:03:34,440 --> 01:03:38,320
Speaker 7: be the real deal, Yeah, man, shout out to a rodeo.

1283
01:03:38,720 --> 01:03:41,240
Speaker 5: Shut out to all the O G riders. Shout out

1284
01:03:41,280 --> 01:03:45,120
Speaker 5: to all the O G riders and them eight do

1285
01:03:45,200 --> 01:03:45,880
Speaker 5: I recommend it?

1286
01:03:45,920 --> 01:03:47,720
Speaker 7: Nigga, I'm not finna say nothing to that old nigga,

1287
01:03:47,720 --> 01:03:50,080
Speaker 7: that nigga still killing niggas that at sixty six, Man,

1288
01:03:50,080 --> 01:03:51,720
Speaker 7: I'll be the last nigga to talk about him.

1289
01:03:51,720 --> 01:03:56,000
Speaker 5: Here, Marv is seventy something. He ain't nothing to play with.

1290
01:03:56,120 --> 01:03:58,080
Speaker 5: I would tell people, do not play with that man.

1291
01:03:58,800 --> 01:03:59,000
Speaker 3: Man.

1292
01:03:59,000 --> 01:04:01,680
Speaker 7: That man is before old Pop Ruin Bro, when gang

1293
01:04:01,760 --> 01:04:05,320
Speaker 7: bang has started, he was already in prison. You not

1294
01:04:05,480 --> 01:04:08,400
Speaker 7: listening to what I'm saying, that means what he is

1295
01:04:08,480 --> 01:04:11,160
Speaker 7: don't got nothing to do with Popu. He was that

1296
01:04:11,200 --> 01:04:13,120
Speaker 7: way and this just fit his way of life. He

1297
01:04:13,280 --> 01:04:16,720
Speaker 7: was already who he was, That's who. That's how all

1298
01:04:16,800 --> 01:04:19,240
Speaker 7: of this stuff work. This stuff really just make you

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Speaker 7: more of a man. It don't mean the law supreme,

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Speaker 7: So you go. If you're a raggedy man coming into it,

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01:04:24,200 --> 01:04:26,480
Speaker 7: you're gonna be even more raggedy. If you're a righteous nigga,

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Speaker 7: you're gonna have power to enforce righteousness. But the law

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Speaker 7: is just not the ultimate morality.

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Speaker 3: That's it. The law don't matter.

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Speaker 6: The law is not the judge.

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Speaker 7: So you start to take away like like somebody like

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Speaker 7: O g FINDI feel me like he not finna go

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Speaker 7: to jail for selling no dope, no more now shit.

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Speaker 7: I don't know now if quarter Pieces, if Rocks was

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Speaker 7: back install and everybody starts.

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Speaker 3: Smoking crack shit, he might open up a spot because

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Speaker 3: he gonna eat. You know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 7: But what I'm saying to you is he gonna do

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Speaker 7: what it take to survive, because that's what this thing

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01:04:59,640 --> 01:05:01,240
Speaker 7: is all about out and he ain't finna let nobody

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01:05:01,240 --> 01:05:03,160
Speaker 7: play with his name right now at his age. Shame

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Speaker 7: with Tracy Davis. Tracy ain't finna let nobody play with

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Speaker 7: his fucking name. You ain't gonna be playing nigga. He

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01:05:08,440 --> 01:05:10,160
Speaker 7: ain't for he min ain't gonna come look for you

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Speaker 7: like he used to. But when he see you, bro,

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Speaker 7: you got a problem. That's the type of line.

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Speaker 3: Cracking.

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Speaker 7: Molder, Homie, Moon, molder, homie, shady, molder homie, pluck all

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Speaker 7: my older homies. I send the six them niggas ain't

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Speaker 7: playing niggas an blow your head off.

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Speaker 3: You playing with them, man, don't play with them people.

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Speaker 6: And I believe in that.

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Speaker 3: That's real.

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Speaker 5: Well, man, ain't having technical difficulties. Man, were about to

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Speaker 5: check out of here glasses. I thank you man for

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Speaker 5: coming and kicking it with your people, man and always

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Speaker 5: taking up for your cripping man and your gen here

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Speaker 5: you that's it man. On that note, man, we out here,

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Speaker 5: shot all the crips out there, shout all the bloods,

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Speaker 5: all the PI rules, everybody, bang bang, all right, we

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Speaker 5: gonna all all the people, all the human beings out there,

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Speaker 5: and we out well. That concludes another episode of Against

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Speaker 5: the Chronicles podcast. Be sure to download the iHeart app

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Speaker 5: and subscribe to The Gangst Chronicles podcast For Apple users,

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Speaker 5: find a purpose micae on the front of your screen,

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Speaker 5: subscribe to the show, leave a comment and rating. Executive

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Speaker 5: producers for The Gangst Chronicles podcasts of Norman Steel Aaron M.

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Speaker 3: C a.

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Speaker 5: Tyler, Our visual media director is Brian Wyatt, and our

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Speaker 5: audio editors tell It Hayes. The Gangster Chronicles is a

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