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Speaker 1: Mom Bro, get used to that image. Packers, fans, and

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Speaker 1: everybody else across the NFL. Michah Parsons is now a Packer.

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Speaker 1: Jerry Jones is rebuilding, and we got sixty minutes to

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Speaker 1: tell you everything we know. Welcome inside with the insiders

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Speaker 1: alongside Ian Rappingport, Judy Battistaid Mike Garafalo. I am Tom Pelicero.

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Speaker 1: Thirty minute from right now, we anticipate a press conference

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Speaker 1: with the Cowboys. We will bring that to you live

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Speaker 1: to hear the explanation from the Dallas end on why

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Speaker 1: ultimately they traded away one of the most dynamic young

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Speaker 1: the Packers who benefit. This is the blockbuster of blockbusters

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Speaker 1: coming on August twenty eighth. In case you missed at

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Speaker 1: the breaking news Packers acquiring MARKA Parsons from the Cowboys

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Speaker 1: in the stage for two first round picks plus defensive

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Speaker 1: hundred and eighty eight million dollar contract extension in Green Bay.

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Speaker 1: Ian That is a huge package. That is a huge contract.

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Speaker 1: How and why did this get done? Now?

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Speaker 5: The headlines are as massive as they can be. Micah Parsons,

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Speaker 5: one of the best, maybe the best defender in the NFL,

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Speaker 5: going to the Green Bay Packers getting that huge contract

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Speaker 5: you mentioned, four years, one hundred and eighty eight million

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Speaker 5: odom of athletes. First, it's splashy. It's as splashy as

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Speaker 5: Two days ago the Packers and the Dallas Cowboys reaching

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Speaker 5: along with this, Micah Parsons needed a new contract with

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Speaker 1: He was off.

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Speaker 5: Remember, Jerry Jones tried to negotiate directly with him. It

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Speaker 5: was a five year deal with more than forty million dollars.

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Speaker 1: That's what the Cowboys wanted to pay him.

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Speaker 5: Two days later, after the agreement was struck on a trade,

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Speaker 5: Micah Parsons ends up with forty seven million dollars per

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Speaker 1: Four year deal.

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Speaker 5: That's an unbelievable raise, destroys the market for top overall

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Speaker 6: There is no way to look at this as anything

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Speaker 7: They traded him away. It's not the herschel Walker trade.

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Speaker 6: They ended up with eight draft picks from the herschel

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Speaker 1: This is a step back.

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Speaker 6: Maybe it is a positioning for the future, but the

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Speaker 7: Just seemingly put it off for a few years longer.

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Speaker 2: There was that trade request, and we mentioned a couple

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Speaker 2: But the Cowboys were standing on business saying, we did

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Speaker 1: You can see the joy on this man's face.

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Speaker 2: Would this have been his preference at the start, No,

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Speaker 1: In Green Bay.

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Speaker 2: This is now going to change the whole vibe, the

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Speaker 1: Michael Parsons played college football in State College Pennsylvania. He

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Speaker 5: Ian And so let's do our viewers a favor and

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Speaker 5: great work on this trade. Work with you and Tom Pelisero.

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Speaker 1: On breaking it.

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Speaker 5: You talked to Micah, you know the cowboys better than everyone.

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Speaker 1: Tell me what we need to know. Thank you.

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Speaker 8: After this, we saw he put out a statement. Obviously

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Speaker 9: When the trade interest was leaked this week.

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Speaker 9: I will say that we started to see that things.

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Speaker 8: And it's interesting that we just had the Gambler come out,

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Speaker 9: The big question I keep getting in Dallas.

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Speaker 8: First choice, right, But I think in the end, Micah

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Speaker 1: I know the Packers really like their young defensive tackles too,

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Speaker 12: Yeah, listen, I just real quick, I have the Chargers

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Speaker 12: But we had quite a chuckle over this one because

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Speaker 1: And the structure too of this deal. The trade compensation

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Speaker 1: Way back in twenty eighteen. Stacy, thank you very much.

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Speaker 1: That is Week four National TV Sunday Night Football on NBC.

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Speaker 1: Michah Parson's return to Dalla one of the biggest bombshell

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Speaker 1: trades we have had in recent NFL history. Micah Parsons

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Speaker 1: headed to Green Bay get a four year, one hundred

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Speaker 1: The Cowboys get two first round picks and nose tackle

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Speaker 1: Kenny Clark. As Ian reported a short time ago, I've

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Speaker 1: I've seen Leroy Butler among others, using the words Reggie

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Speaker 1: back in nineteen ninety three, you're a young player on

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Speaker 13: Thank you for having me, Tom. And the thing about

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Speaker 13: never coming to the Packers. Well, God is good. Not

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Speaker 13: only did he come, but he changed the culture. This

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Speaker 13: Only Michael Parsons and Reggie White has done this over

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Speaker 4: So we're very happy.

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Speaker 1: Should be happy.

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Speaker 7: Obviously.

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Speaker 5: The reaction from from Green Bay, from the organization and

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Speaker 1: You know how good.

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Speaker 5: Michael Parsons has been for the Dallas Cowboys. You know, uh,

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Speaker 5: this defense for the Packers, Now, what kind of impact

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Speaker 13: And what is good do is something that Happily has

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Speaker 13: They got a lot of eternal overs, but the sacks

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Speaker 1: It's disclosure.

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Speaker 13: Michael Parson was my favorite non Packer in the league,

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Speaker 13: This guy means a lot for.

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Speaker 1: The culture of Green Bay.

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Speaker 2: You know what.

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Speaker 1: It elevates everybody's.

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Speaker 1: Last thing for you, Leroy, so I know right now

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Speaker 1: Fame Bank which of Memory Services in the atrium of

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Speaker 1: lambeau Field. It's all the greatest packers across history, including yourself.

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Speaker 1: You have to be getting like texts and calls from

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Speaker 11: Great question?

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Speaker 13: But when David Singer called me, I come out of

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Speaker 11: And talk to you guys. It's very important.

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Speaker 13: And this was therapy for me because when I go

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Speaker 13: question is he gonna wear number eleven? I say, don't

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Speaker 13: worry about number eleven. Close that chapter. We're number thirty six.

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Speaker 13: It's my number.

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Speaker 1: Wow, that's why he's the best, right there, Lauri. Butller

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Speaker 1: you enjoy the banquet tonight. We'll be looking for you

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Speaker 1: live tweeting everybody's reactions. So we appreciate it. Man, Thank

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Speaker 11: One of my favorite shows.

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Speaker 1: So we know they're feeling in Green Bay pretty pretty good.

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Speaker 1: say from Jerry Jones, Stephen Jones, and Brian Schattneimer, just

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Speaker 1: a guest live Cowboys News conference. Come on your way.

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Speaker 1: Michael Parsons is a packer. How about that stick around

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Speaker 2: I mean this was the kind of trade that you

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Speaker 2: Yeah right there, Jerry Jones front and center, going to

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Speaker 1: We will have it for you live in just a

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Speaker 2: In the meantime, Judy Patiza, Brian Balding or Mark Ross

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Speaker 14: I nicknamed him the MPP, the Micah Parsons problem, because

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Speaker 14: They robbed the middle of the field. They played press coverage.

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Speaker 14: Right here, once he gets his hands on you and

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Speaker 1: Bright Shong has no chance, his ability just to close.

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Speaker 11: Hands on you right here, there's nothing he.

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Speaker 14: He's the best defensive player in this business. He changes

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Speaker 14: the game because of his speed and his ability to

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Speaker 14: chase and affect plays. His first three years in the league,

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Speaker 14: Dallas did over those three years leave the entire National

445
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Speaker 14: Football League in takeaways with Dan Quinn as the coordinated

446
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Speaker 14: Jeff Hafley last year in his first year thirty one

447
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Speaker 14: takeaway second in the league. That's what this thing is about,

448
00:22:42,280 --> 00:22:46,160
Speaker 14: taking the ball away, affecting the quarterback, and really nobody

449
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Speaker 14: is better in this business than Michael Parsons in his

450
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Speaker 14: prime at age twenty six.

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Speaker 3: Maldy, I agree with you, and what he saw there,

452
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Speaker 3: dear Exo, is the uniqueness of where he lines up,

453
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Speaker 3: and that's what causes all the problems.

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Speaker 1: Is it's unlike a lot where you know he's going

455
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Speaker 1: to be over here.

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Speaker 11: And we can gain plan.

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Speaker 3: But with Micah it's so hard because the unique talent,

458
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Speaker 3: but also where do we gain plan to stop him?

459
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Speaker 3: And he could be anywhere on any play, and that

460
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Speaker 3: affects the way that the offense schemes, the way the

461
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Speaker 3: quarterback calls the protections, the way that the receivers run

462
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Speaker 3: their routes. He has that kind of effect because of

463
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Speaker 3: where he lines up, but also the effect of how

464
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Speaker 3: talented he is.

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Speaker 11: Is okay.

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Speaker 3: Now, Now we don't have to have our number one

467
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Speaker 3: guy slide down the number two, number three. He makes

468
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Speaker 3: everybody else better so that they can fit into their role.

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Speaker 3: Rashan Gary, you don't have to be the guy. You

470
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Speaker 3: could be too, Lucas fan NEETs, you could just go

471
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Speaker 3: eat as the number three guys. And another person who's

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Speaker 3: going to have a huge effect Baldy Judy at Mike

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Speaker 3: is Edgeran Cooper. Second year man Edgerick Cooper, who only

474
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Speaker 3: played forty five percent of the snaps last year but

475
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Speaker 3: had three and a half sacks and eleven tackles for

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Speaker 3: thirteen tackles for the loss, who similarly lines up all

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Speaker 3: kinds of ways and is explosive as can be.

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Speaker 6: Mark, I want to get your thoughts from the front office,

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Speaker 6: but first I want to show a tweet I believe

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Speaker 6: from Michael Parsons that we have. I'm not sure if

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Speaker 6: we've got that game time, yes, handshake, game time absolutely.

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Speaker 6: Michael Parsons. All right, let's look at the terms of

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Speaker 6: the trade.

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Speaker 7: We know it. Two first rounders and.

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Speaker 6: Kenny Clark going back to the Dallas Cowboys in exchange

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Speaker 6: for Michael Parsons. Mark give us the front office view

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Speaker 6: of this trade. I don't want to ask you who

488
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Speaker 6: won the trade, but give me your thoughts on that.

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Speaker 3: Well, I think the Packers wanted and Jimmy, you said

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Speaker 3: it beautifully perfectly earlier.

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Speaker 1: It is like, it's great to get those.

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Speaker 3: Picks, but the goal of those picks is to get

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Speaker 3: at Michael Parsons, and they got it already. And the

494
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Speaker 3: goal is once you get at Michael Parsons is to

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Speaker 3: keep a Michael Parsons. You know, so you had the

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Speaker 3: best defensive player in the league because you drafted well

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Speaker 3: and you hit. Now going forward, when I look at

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Speaker 3: the Cowboys and we keep talking about what is the plan.

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Speaker 11: Okay, you have these picks.

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Speaker 3: Now what your franchise quarterback is already thirty two years old?

501
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Speaker 3: So is his plan to try to keep rebuilding around him?

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Speaker 3: Is his planning to acquire these picks to say, Okay,

503
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Speaker 3: we'll go get another quarterback, but you're picking probably going

504
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Speaker 3: to be picking low in those rounds because Green Bay

505
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Speaker 3: is going.

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Speaker 11: To be good.

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Speaker 3: So all in all, when I look at this, it's

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Speaker 3: great to get the picks, but what is the plan

509
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Speaker 3: and will you be able to hit on these picks?

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Speaker 3: You don't hit on the Michael Parsons once every ten

511
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Speaker 3: twenty years, so it probably will not be that impact.

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Speaker 1: But whether they go going forward, Baldy.

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Speaker 2: This is a team that, for better or for worse,

514
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Speaker 2: has leaned on its ability to draft and develop in

515
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Speaker 2: the past.

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Speaker 1: They're going to say, and I know is a tough

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Speaker 1: sell in the fan base.

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Speaker 2: Devin Azaraku this year a second round pick, Sam Williams,

519
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Speaker 2: a former second round pick, Marshawn neil On, a former

520
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Speaker 2: second round pick. Guys that they really feel good about.

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Speaker 2: They're not Michaeh Parsons, but guys they feel really good about,

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Speaker 2: as well as oh So Diggi Zoo, a former third

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Speaker 2: round pick, Kenny Clark. They added former first round pick

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Speaker 2: Mazzie Smith, former first round pick. Can they all combine

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Speaker 2: make up for Michah Parsons, We shall see a blockbuster.

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Speaker 1: On August twenty eighth, just one week before the Cowboys

527
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Speaker 1: are set to kick off the twenty twenty five regular

528
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Speaker 1: season against the Eagles, Micah Parsons is headed to Green Bay.

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Speaker 1: Cowboys and Packers a green on a trade that sends

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Speaker 1: Parsons to lambeau Field in exchange for two first dround

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Speaker 1: picks as well as nose tackle Kenny Clark. Parsons also

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Speaker 1: gets a four year, one hundred and eighty eight million

533
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Speaker 1: dollar contract extension from the Packers that makes him, in

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Speaker 1: terms of new money, by far, the highest paid non

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Speaker 1: quarterback in NFL history. Welcome back to the Insiders. Tom Pelicero,

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Speaker 1: Ian Rappaport, Judy Batista, and Mike Girifolo. We are waiting

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Speaker 1: right now for the Cowboys, and specifically we believe Jerry

538
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Speaker 1: Jones to head to the podium. They are set up

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Speaker 1: for a press conference that should be beginning any minute

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Speaker 1: from right now. Judy, I come to you with this question.

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Speaker 1: You're about to watch this, we all are. What do

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Speaker 1: you want to hear from Jerry Jill? What is the plan?

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Speaker 6: How do you think you made the Dallas Cowboys better today?

544
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Speaker 6: Did this really devolve all because you thought you were

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Speaker 6: going to stand on a handshake deal and didn't want

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Speaker 6: to deal with an agent. All of that I want

547
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Speaker 6: to deconstructed. How did this come apart from a player

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Speaker 6: that Jerry Jones seemingly really liked and had a lot

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Speaker 6: of respect for, to Michael Parsons having to demand a

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Speaker 6: trade and then being traded all of this and then

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Speaker 6: looking forward, how do you make the team better?

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Speaker 7: Do you think the team is better right now that you're.

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Speaker 6: Going to put on the field next week against the

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Speaker 6: Philadelphia Eagles.

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Speaker 5: Dean, Yeah, and certainly, you know you talk about the

556
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Speaker 5: plan right now. So much of what the Dallas Cowboys

557
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Speaker 5: are doing is looking toward the future and saying they

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Speaker 5: didn't pay Micah Parsons. Now it's forty they would have

559
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Speaker 5: paid him forty maybe forty one million dollars. The Packers

560
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Speaker 5: are paying him forty seven million dollars per year. That's

561
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Speaker 5: obviously a huge huge jump for Micah Parsons in a

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Speaker 5: really nice deal for him. The Cowboys avoid that's that's

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Speaker 5: what's happening now.

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Speaker 1: So much of this is about the future.

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Speaker 11: Though.

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Speaker 5: They have a quarterback that's in his early thirties who

567
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Speaker 5: finished last year on injured reserve, and at some point

568
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Speaker 5: the Dallas Cowboys need to start thinking about the future,

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Speaker 5: and one way to do that is to a mass

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Speaker 5: first round picks to potentially use in a trade or

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Speaker 5: a draft a quarterback. I mean, that's really that's really

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Speaker 5: what they're doing here, and you know it's not what

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Speaker 5: the fans want.

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Speaker 1: To hear they want to win.

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Speaker 5: Now, this is a team that you know, certainly is

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Speaker 5: talented enough to be in the playoffs.

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Speaker 1: Absolutely is talented enough to be in the playoffs.

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Speaker 5: But what they did was build for the future and

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Speaker 5: get out from an issue that they just could not

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Speaker 5: figure out. Mike, I know it's something that's driving Cowboys

581
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Speaker 5: fans crazy. But the last blockbuster they trade they did

582
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Speaker 5: worked out okay.

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Speaker 1: So we'll see if this one does as well. You

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Speaker 1: know what I want to hear. I'll answer your initial question.

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Speaker 1: Tom and Judy alluded to this.

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Speaker 2: I want to hear Jerry Jones say we're better without

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Speaker 2: Micah Parsons.

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Speaker 1: Not because I agree with that.

589
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Speaker 2: I don't, not because many people agree with it, not

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00:29:12,920 --> 00:29:15,320
Speaker 2: because maybe he may even believe it, but because I

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00:29:15,400 --> 00:29:17,160
Speaker 2: kind of want that out there as something we can

592
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Speaker 2: always continue to go back to, because he's either going

593
00:29:19,280 --> 00:29:21,240
Speaker 2: to be right or he's going to be wrong, and

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00:29:21,280 --> 00:29:23,480
Speaker 2: he may be horrifically wrong. And this is the kind

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Speaker 2: of stuff that we love to talk about when it

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Speaker 2: comes to The Insiders and Good Morning Football and all.

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Speaker 1: Of our programming here at NFL Network.

598
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Speaker 2: I go back to the Red Sox earlier this year,

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Speaker 2: trading Rafael Devers and saying we're going to be better

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Speaker 2: without him. Guess what they have been like that just

601
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Speaker 2: leads to the kind of drama after a trade like this.

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Speaker 2: I want Jerry to say something along those lines. And

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Speaker 2: the fact that there's one microphone there after there were

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Speaker 2: three initially tells me Jerry is.

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Speaker 1: Going to walk right up and look right into the

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Speaker 1: cameras and into the lights and give us what we

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Speaker 1: wan on. Hold on, Mike, we had some news. We

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Speaker 1: have some news.

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Speaker 5: Wat's two microphones now two, michaelones used to be one.

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Speaker 1: To one two.

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Speaker 7: I've got anything.

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Speaker 1: No shortage of reactions to today's blockbuster trade, Michael Parsons

613
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Speaker 1: going to the packers our buddy camp wolf Way and

614
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Speaker 1: then mentioning the course Dallas trated Luca and Mike away

615
00:30:17,840 --> 00:30:20,960
Speaker 1: in the same calendar year. Not ideal if you're a

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Speaker 1: Dallas fan. Also Russell Wilson, he of University Wisconsin fame,

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Speaker 1: among other things, telling Michaeh, Hey, glad you're out of

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Speaker 1: the division packing bags movie company. Let me know happy

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Speaker 1: he won't be getting chased around by Micah during the

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Speaker 1: regular season twice. This has been a monumental day for

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Speaker 1: a lot of different reasons, including the fan of Michael

622
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Speaker 1: Parsons is now the highest paid non quarterback in NFL

623
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Speaker 1: history forty seven million dollars per year in new money.

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Speaker 1: Even if you look at this like the Packers would

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Speaker 1: in terms of a five year, two hundred twelve million

626
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Speaker 1: dollar deal overall, that's still upwards of forty two million

627
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Speaker 1: dollars per year, whatever metric you use. Micah Parsons just

628
00:31:03,280 --> 00:31:07,400
Speaker 1: got paid in a big way. We aren't still waiting

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Speaker 1: at the start for the Cowboys media conference was supposed

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Speaker 1: to begin fifteen minutes ago. We have had a lot

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Speaker 1: of rearranging of the chairs. Maybe they'll us play musical chairs.

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Speaker 1: That's kind of how it feels. We're now at two

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Speaker 1: I'm going to guess Jerry Jones and Brian shat now,

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Speaker 1: but we hope to have answers on that and a

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Speaker 1: lot more soon. Welcome back to the Insiders, Tom pellisero

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Speaker 1: I and Rappaport, Judy Battista and Mike garofalo Ian. Let's

637
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Speaker 1: just reset here how this played out, because I think

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Speaker 1: that there was a lot of confusion about exactly where

639
00:31:37,600 --> 00:31:43,320
Speaker 1: things stood between the Cowboys and Michaeh Parsons and actually,

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Speaker 1: how about this, Let's get an answer from someone smarter

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Speaker 1: than he And here's Jerry Jones head into the podium.

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Speaker 15: As a lot of people, Calvin started out, sir, this

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Speaker 15: is for Jerry and Alsie Stephen, why do you decide

644
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Speaker 15: to trade Michael Parsons?

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Speaker 4: Well, without being too broad, obviously, we did think it

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Speaker 4: was in the best interest of our organization, not only

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Speaker 4: the future, but right now this season as well. We've

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Speaker 4: gained a Pro Bowl player. We've gained a Pro Bowl

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Speaker 4: player in an area that we had big concern in,

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Speaker 4: or concerns in on the inside of our defense. Uh,

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Speaker 4: let me be let me go beyond your question. First

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Speaker 4: of all, I want to tell you that I really

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Speaker 4: like Michael. I appreciate the years four years that we've

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Speaker 4: had him here, and he's he's a great player, and

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Speaker 4: so we are very appreciative of the fact that he's

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Speaker 4: a great player. Uh. There's no question that I could

657
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Speaker 4: have signed him in April, and so, UH we all

658
00:33:08,880 --> 00:33:14,240
Speaker 4: know that to have agreements, all parties have to agree.

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Speaker 4: But this was by design. Uh. I did uh make

660
00:33:22,440 --> 00:33:27,800
Speaker 4: my cun offer. Uh it wasn't acceptable. Uh, And I

661
00:33:27,880 --> 00:33:31,720
Speaker 4: honored the fact that it wasn't done in the way

662
00:33:31,760 --> 00:33:35,320
Speaker 4: that he wanted to do it through an agent, so

663
00:33:35,880 --> 00:33:40,680
Speaker 4: he was made an offer. There's not an ounce of vindictiveness.

664
00:33:40,720 --> 00:33:45,720
Speaker 4: There's no bad feelings on my part about the fact

665
00:33:45,720 --> 00:33:52,480
Speaker 4: that we didn't come together on an agreement. The facts are,

666
00:33:52,520 --> 00:33:55,080
Speaker 4: and we'll cover it, I'm sure with many of your questions,

667
00:33:56,000 --> 00:34:02,720
Speaker 4: but the facts are, specifically, we need to stop the run,

668
00:34:03,840 --> 00:34:06,040
Speaker 4: and we haven't been able to stop the run at

669
00:34:06,120 --> 00:34:14,680
Speaker 4: key times for several years. And when you have the

670
00:34:14,880 --> 00:34:19,080
Speaker 4: kind of extraordinary pass rush that Michael had, then the

671
00:34:19,120 --> 00:34:21,680
Speaker 4: way to mitigate that pass rush is to run at you.

672
00:34:23,840 --> 00:34:26,879
Speaker 4: If the pass rush doesn't get you ahead pretty big

673
00:34:26,960 --> 00:34:31,879
Speaker 4: time and you're playing even or behind, then you've really

674
00:34:31,920 --> 00:34:36,919
Speaker 4: got a problem in stopping the run. And so we

675
00:34:37,160 --> 00:34:45,120
Speaker 4: have felt as we embark on changing things. We have

676
00:34:45,200 --> 00:34:49,399
Speaker 4: a coach that we're mighty proud of in Brian, and

677
00:34:49,480 --> 00:34:53,520
Speaker 4: we're excited about the changes that we're making, not only

678
00:34:53,560 --> 00:34:56,920
Speaker 4: in the coaching staff, but in the team. I think

679
00:34:57,000 --> 00:35:00,879
Speaker 4: out of our sixty players that we would count as

680
00:35:00,920 --> 00:35:04,799
Speaker 4: the actives and a percent of the practice squad, over

681
00:35:04,920 --> 00:35:09,160
Speaker 4: one third of those players are new and so we

682
00:35:09,320 --> 00:35:13,719
Speaker 4: are doing what I've said many times that if you

683
00:35:15,120 --> 00:35:19,920
Speaker 4: are the one that owns and when you look in

684
00:35:19,960 --> 00:35:24,480
Speaker 4: the mirror, you've got to change. And so that this

685
00:35:24,719 --> 00:35:31,120
Speaker 4: was a very deliberate as it played out, reflection on

686
00:35:31,480 --> 00:35:35,800
Speaker 4: a key player that could bring us a lot of consideration,

687
00:35:37,040 --> 00:35:40,520
Speaker 4: a lot of consideration now in the player that we

688
00:35:40,640 --> 00:35:44,080
Speaker 4: got that can help us stop the run, and a

689
00:35:44,120 --> 00:35:47,800
Speaker 4: lot of consideration in the future. A lot of capital

690
00:35:48,360 --> 00:35:54,760
Speaker 4: that is required to build a team. It takes many

691
00:35:54,880 --> 00:35:58,879
Speaker 4: players to be tried to play in the NFL. It

692
00:35:58,960 --> 00:36:01,760
Speaker 4: takes a level on the field. At the same time,

693
00:36:01,880 --> 00:36:06,280
Speaker 4: it takes a minimum of thirty or forty at minimum

694
00:36:06,800 --> 00:36:10,759
Speaker 4: to have both defense and offense, not including players that

695
00:36:10,760 --> 00:36:13,960
Speaker 4: are involved in our special teams. So it takes more

696
00:36:14,040 --> 00:36:20,360
Speaker 4: than one. And so you do have to allocate your resources,

697
00:36:20,400 --> 00:36:23,600
Speaker 4: whether it be draft picks or whether it be finances,

698
00:36:24,040 --> 00:36:29,200
Speaker 4: you have to allocate those resources. There was no question

699
00:36:29,440 --> 00:36:33,520
Speaker 4: in our mind that Michael could bring us a lot

700
00:36:33,560 --> 00:36:36,759
Speaker 4: of resources on a trade that has been on my

701
00:36:36,920 --> 00:36:42,720
Speaker 4: mind since we hired Brian, and so there was no question.

702
00:36:44,680 --> 00:36:50,440
Speaker 4: As it turns out, all the publicity about the not

703
00:36:50,560 --> 00:36:55,080
Speaker 4: having a contract, certainly you did your part in making

704
00:36:55,120 --> 00:37:00,000
Speaker 4: sure that it was known that he was potentially available,

705
00:37:00,120 --> 00:37:03,560
Speaker 4: and I appreciate that very much. And I say that

706
00:37:03,640 --> 00:37:06,440
Speaker 4: a little tongue in cheek. I'm not really as serious

707
00:37:06,960 --> 00:37:10,520
Speaker 4: about it, but I will say this that it was

708
00:37:10,640 --> 00:37:15,160
Speaker 4: important that we did get if we could get it,

709
00:37:15,520 --> 00:37:18,200
Speaker 4: the kind of interest that we got in making a

710
00:37:18,280 --> 00:37:22,000
Speaker 4: trade for Mike. He was an asset that we got

711
00:37:22,040 --> 00:37:26,600
Speaker 4: four great years out of. But when you are talking

712
00:37:26,640 --> 00:37:30,279
Speaker 4: about making a contract the kind that he got and

713
00:37:30,320 --> 00:37:34,840
Speaker 4: for the future, that's quite a commitment. And none of

714
00:37:34,920 --> 00:37:37,720
Speaker 4: that counts about what he did those first four years.

715
00:37:37,760 --> 00:37:40,080
Speaker 4: It all goes against what he can do for you

716
00:37:40,719 --> 00:37:46,040
Speaker 4: in the future, the length of that contract and maybe more. Well,

717
00:37:46,040 --> 00:37:50,080
Speaker 4: then you've got to really wigh how many players. And

718
00:37:50,120 --> 00:37:52,279
Speaker 4: I'm just going to give you this. Not only do

719
00:37:52,320 --> 00:37:56,719
Speaker 4: we immediately get a player, but those draft picks could

720
00:37:56,719 --> 00:38:00,640
Speaker 4: get us. I'm talking top Pro Bowl type player could

721
00:38:00,960 --> 00:38:03,239
Speaker 4: not necessarily going to be quick to say you won't

722
00:38:03,280 --> 00:38:05,600
Speaker 4: necessarily get those players, you got to draft them more

723
00:38:05,600 --> 00:38:08,959
Speaker 4: acquirm but they could get us as few as three

724
00:38:09,200 --> 00:38:14,760
Speaker 4: or as many as five outstanding players. Now, not only

725
00:38:14,840 --> 00:38:17,120
Speaker 4: do they contribute in a game that needs a lot

726
00:38:17,160 --> 00:38:20,560
Speaker 4: of players on the field not to be elementary, but

727
00:38:20,600 --> 00:38:24,640
Speaker 4: they also give you better odds that they're going to

728
00:38:24,680 --> 00:38:26,840
Speaker 4: be a high percentage of those are going to be

729
00:38:26,880 --> 00:38:30,920
Speaker 4: available just from the strandpoint of attrition or from the

730
00:38:30,960 --> 00:38:35,040
Speaker 4: standpoint of just sheer limit on how far one player

731
00:38:35,160 --> 00:38:38,239
Speaker 4: can go. Very few players are Dion play at one

732
00:38:38,320 --> 00:38:41,640
Speaker 4: hundred plays a game out there at the time. So

733
00:38:41,960 --> 00:38:48,080
Speaker 4: this trade was not just thought about today. This trade

734
00:38:48,160 --> 00:38:51,440
Speaker 4: has been going on in our minds and our strategies

735
00:38:51,480 --> 00:38:58,040
Speaker 4: and being talked about. It's been going on allspring. It

736
00:38:58,160 --> 00:39:01,640
Speaker 4: culminated today and it came quick. But that's the way

737
00:39:01,880 --> 00:39:06,319
Speaker 4: things go. It does happen fast when it happens, but

738
00:39:06,440 --> 00:39:09,120
Speaker 4: you've laid a lot of water. I mean, you've laid

739
00:39:09,160 --> 00:39:11,600
Speaker 4: a lot of things out there on the water to

740
00:39:11,680 --> 00:39:16,160
Speaker 4: make it happen. I want to be sure that our

741
00:39:16,239 --> 00:39:19,960
Speaker 4: fans understand. I think a lot of Michael and I

742
00:39:20,040 --> 00:39:23,880
Speaker 4: wish him so much success. I don't want him to

743
00:39:23,920 --> 00:39:26,960
Speaker 4: have success when he played the Cowboys as much as

744
00:39:27,680 --> 00:39:31,160
Speaker 4: I do want him to have overall success. But Michael

745
00:39:31,239 --> 00:39:35,160
Speaker 4: Parsons did an outstanding job for us for four years

746
00:39:35,960 --> 00:39:38,480
Speaker 4: and a little bit of the way herschel Walker may

747
00:39:38,520 --> 00:39:42,160
Speaker 4: have had his greatest contribution to the Cowboys. What he

748
00:39:42,280 --> 00:39:46,000
Speaker 4: brought to us when he left could be a tremendous

749
00:39:46,040 --> 00:39:51,160
Speaker 4: thing for our fans and the success of this team.

750
00:39:51,280 --> 00:39:59,400
Speaker 4: Kenny Clark, we knew beginning, we really knew beginning this

751
00:39:59,520 --> 00:40:05,040
Speaker 4: spring that if we could pick up a top interior

752
00:40:05,239 --> 00:40:10,840
Speaker 4: defensive lineman just to offset not having a pass rusher,

753
00:40:10,920 --> 00:40:14,799
Speaker 4: even though it's Micah, but where we're long, where we're

754
00:40:14,840 --> 00:40:18,760
Speaker 4: strong is in our pass rushing depth. And we knew

755
00:40:18,840 --> 00:40:22,719
Speaker 4: if we could get an interior alignment that that was

756
00:40:22,800 --> 00:40:26,560
Speaker 4: at least something that would improve us right there. On

757
00:40:26,600 --> 00:40:30,120
Speaker 4: a top interior alignment. He comes in strong for us,

758
00:40:30,840 --> 00:40:34,239
Speaker 4: and he comes in accomplished for us, and so we're

759
00:40:34,280 --> 00:40:37,160
Speaker 4: glad to have him. It was a prerequisite. We went

760
00:40:37,280 --> 00:40:41,080
Speaker 4: down the teams and we only picked teams that had

761
00:40:41,200 --> 00:40:44,640
Speaker 4: room on their cap that could pay Micah, and we

762
00:40:44,680 --> 00:40:48,719
Speaker 4: only picked teams that had top tackles in tier tackles

763
00:40:49,280 --> 00:40:51,759
Speaker 4: that we wanted to have any dialogue with it all

764
00:40:51,840 --> 00:40:55,920
Speaker 4: about a trade. That was the criteria of trading top

765
00:40:56,480 --> 00:40:59,440
Speaker 4: existing tackle that could come in here and play for

766
00:40:59,560 --> 00:41:04,239
Speaker 4: us right now this year and offset the fact to

767
00:41:04,400 --> 00:41:08,640
Speaker 4: whatever degree more or less that we don't have that

768
00:41:08,840 --> 00:41:11,879
Speaker 4: excellence that Michael Parsons has There but we do have

769
00:41:11,960 --> 00:41:14,359
Speaker 4: the depth to come in here and do that, and

770
00:41:14,400 --> 00:41:18,080
Speaker 4: then if we could get the picks that we ultimately getting,

771
00:41:18,160 --> 00:41:21,480
Speaker 4: and we did have several teams that we might have

772
00:41:21,560 --> 00:41:24,920
Speaker 4: had an opportunity to do something well, we did have that,

773
00:41:25,680 --> 00:41:31,719
Speaker 4: and so this was no this was no instantaneous happening

774
00:41:31,800 --> 00:41:35,560
Speaker 4: this afternoon over about a five minute period. The other

775
00:41:35,640 --> 00:41:38,040
Speaker 4: thing that I would like to say is I firmly

776
00:41:38,719 --> 00:41:44,280
Speaker 4: did me made a commitment to Michael this spring Michael

777
00:41:45,360 --> 00:41:50,719
Speaker 4: and paid him and to pay him. At that time,

778
00:41:51,440 --> 00:41:56,120
Speaker 4: I was battling and knew that the other alternative probably

779
00:41:56,320 --> 00:41:58,520
Speaker 4: was I had no idea what we might be able

780
00:41:58,560 --> 00:42:01,840
Speaker 4: to get. Knew that it was very likely to be

781
00:42:02,040 --> 00:42:06,560
Speaker 4: several players that we could use those resources for all

782
00:42:06,640 --> 00:42:10,000
Speaker 4: the way draft picks as well as gap space, and

783
00:42:10,080 --> 00:42:13,319
Speaker 4: so that was on our mind the minute that we

784
00:42:13,440 --> 00:42:17,160
Speaker 4: saw that we were quite possibly we're going to have

785
00:42:17,200 --> 00:42:20,960
Speaker 4: an issue about whether or not we could do a

786
00:42:21,000 --> 00:42:28,360
Speaker 4: contract or not. That gave us time, that gave us imagineering.

787
00:42:29,280 --> 00:42:32,360
Speaker 4: That couple with bringing in a new coach and bringing

788
00:42:32,400 --> 00:42:35,959
Speaker 4: in a new staff, we felt it fit for us

789
00:42:36,440 --> 00:42:40,200
Speaker 4: to have more players, more excellent players, if we do

790
00:42:40,239 --> 00:42:44,360
Speaker 4: a good job of acquiring those players plus have a

791
00:42:44,480 --> 00:42:48,120
Speaker 4: team this year that would give us a better chance.

792
00:42:48,239 --> 00:42:52,759
Speaker 4: Dare I say that? But absolutely it's not a It's

793
00:42:52,800 --> 00:42:55,600
Speaker 4: not a zero that we're dealing with as far as

794
00:42:55,800 --> 00:42:59,479
Speaker 4: how much better that we were trying to be even

795
00:42:59,560 --> 00:43:04,400
Speaker 4: not having Michael. I've got several other things that I

796
00:43:04,440 --> 00:43:06,880
Speaker 4: could answer a question with, but I'll stop and just

797
00:43:06,960 --> 00:43:07,719
Speaker 4: let you ask question.

798
00:43:07,880 --> 00:43:08,319
Speaker 1: The other thing.

799
00:43:08,400 --> 00:43:10,200
Speaker 4: You did an amazing job of covering it.

800
00:43:11,760 --> 00:43:12,520
Speaker 1: Extensively.

801
00:43:13,040 --> 00:43:15,440
Speaker 16: But because we have thought about this a lot, but

802
00:43:15,480 --> 00:43:18,239
Speaker 16: the other thing came into play big was between coach

803
00:43:18,239 --> 00:43:23,799
Speaker 16: Schottenheimer and coach Iberfluse and talking about the defense and

804
00:43:24,320 --> 00:43:27,760
Speaker 16: obviously getting a player like Kenny Clark is We also

805
00:43:27,840 --> 00:43:31,239
Speaker 16: feel like, in addition to the depth is you can

806
00:43:31,280 --> 00:43:35,680
Speaker 16: scheme pressure as well, and I think Coach Iberflus has

807
00:43:35,719 --> 00:43:39,360
Speaker 16: been really good at that in terms of using scheme

808
00:43:39,440 --> 00:43:41,000
Speaker 16: to get pressure on the quarterback.

809
00:43:41,800 --> 00:43:44,760
Speaker 4: But what's tough to scheme is to stop the run.

810
00:43:49,800 --> 00:43:51,719
Speaker 4: The other thing that I want to say is we

811
00:43:51,920 --> 00:43:55,840
Speaker 4: not only gives us four first round picks over the

812
00:43:55,840 --> 00:44:00,800
Speaker 4: next two years. We not only do that. Nothing says

813
00:44:00,840 --> 00:44:03,759
Speaker 4: we can't use some of those pecks right now to

814
00:44:03,840 --> 00:44:06,680
Speaker 4: go get somebody right now. Don't rule that out.

815
00:44:08,640 --> 00:44:11,040
Speaker 17: You said to your fan base that looks at this

816
00:44:11,160 --> 00:44:13,320
Speaker 17: and says they're rebuilding.

817
00:44:12,920 --> 00:44:17,560
Speaker 4: Right now, Well, again, we've certainly got a new coaching

818
00:44:17,600 --> 00:44:21,279
Speaker 4: staff and a third of all the players are new

819
00:44:23,160 --> 00:44:28,719
Speaker 4: and so obviously there is freshness. We'll use the word

820
00:44:28,840 --> 00:44:33,319
Speaker 4: new on that basis. But we have the highest paid

821
00:44:33,320 --> 00:44:36,680
Speaker 4: player in the NFL at quarterback, and we made that

822
00:44:36,680 --> 00:44:39,600
Speaker 4: commitment last year and we're proud we made it. It

823
00:44:39,640 --> 00:44:44,480
Speaker 4: had everything to do with this decision. Everything it is.

824
00:44:44,960 --> 00:44:48,800
Speaker 4: Give us every opportunity with Dac, Press, God and Lamb

825
00:44:49,400 --> 00:44:53,680
Speaker 4: and the base that we've got to win now and

826
00:44:53,719 --> 00:44:57,440
Speaker 4: so all you need to do this would I'm not

827
00:44:57,480 --> 00:45:01,480
Speaker 4: so sure this would have been results had we not

828
00:45:01,640 --> 00:45:05,920
Speaker 4: had Dak, but the fact that we have Dak. We

829
00:45:05,960 --> 00:45:09,239
Speaker 4: need to stop the run, we really do. We need

830
00:45:09,239 --> 00:45:10,120
Speaker 4: to get the ball back.

831
00:45:12,080 --> 00:45:14,120
Speaker 16: That's why it was so important when you say that

832
00:45:14,480 --> 00:45:16,640
Speaker 16: is to Kenny Clark was a big part of this,

833
00:45:17,400 --> 00:45:20,279
Speaker 16: and that was a part of winning right now. And

834
00:45:20,520 --> 00:45:23,920
Speaker 16: we feel like when you look at you know, the

835
00:45:23,960 --> 00:45:26,680
Speaker 16: frustration is we hadn't been able to win the big

836
00:45:26,719 --> 00:45:29,319
Speaker 16: game in the playoffs, and we think it is a

837
00:45:29,360 --> 00:45:31,840
Speaker 16: direct connection to not being able to stop the run,

838
00:45:32,239 --> 00:45:34,040
Speaker 16: and we think Kenny Clark's going to be a big

839
00:45:34,080 --> 00:45:36,680
Speaker 16: piece to that. And we felt like because of our

840
00:45:36,760 --> 00:45:40,279
Speaker 16: depth on the edge as well as the ability to

841
00:45:40,280 --> 00:45:43,200
Speaker 16: be able to scheme pressure, that we could make up

842
00:45:43,480 --> 00:45:47,240
Speaker 16: for Micah because obviously he's elite at rushing the passer,

843
00:45:47,920 --> 00:45:50,600
Speaker 16: that we could make up for that. And then in

844
00:45:50,640 --> 00:45:53,239
Speaker 16: addition to it, as Jerry said, so well as we

845
00:45:53,880 --> 00:45:56,960
Speaker 16: do now have two ones in each draft over the

846
00:45:57,000 --> 00:45:59,279
Speaker 16: next two years, and nothing says we can't use one

847
00:45:59,280 --> 00:46:02,239
Speaker 16: of those to improve the team this year, which we

848
00:46:02,239 --> 00:46:04,680
Speaker 16: wouldn't rele out this year.

849
00:46:06,200 --> 00:46:08,480
Speaker 11: Clients held l LS Cowboys.

850
00:46:08,640 --> 00:46:11,840
Speaker 18: Can you, from a time last standpoint, when did you

851
00:46:11,880 --> 00:46:14,719
Speaker 18: start negotiate with Green Bay and when did you give

852
00:46:14,760 --> 00:46:17,600
Speaker 18: them permission to talk to move a letter about a contract.

853
00:46:17,719 --> 00:46:21,240
Speaker 4: Yeah, we're not, uh, I'm not going to get into

854
00:46:21,440 --> 00:46:27,520
Speaker 4: time frames at all, but we didn't have a deal

855
00:46:27,600 --> 00:46:30,840
Speaker 4: until this afternoon. I'll tell you I can say that

856
00:46:31,040 --> 00:46:37,160
Speaker 4: much the rest of it. It'd be hard to be

857
00:46:37,800 --> 00:46:43,879
Speaker 4: not characterize the dialogue to pick a this toll, this call,

858
00:46:44,000 --> 00:46:48,359
Speaker 4: this time, this cap. We talked to Green Bay more

859
00:46:48,400 --> 00:46:52,600
Speaker 4: than once, more than twice several times, and that's been

860
00:46:53,120 --> 00:46:57,520
Speaker 4: frankly over the last several days, but it came to

861
00:46:57,640 --> 00:47:02,680
Speaker 4: a head as far as acting on it. Remember there

862
00:47:02,719 --> 00:47:05,200
Speaker 4: were three people that had two or three people. There

863
00:47:05,200 --> 00:47:10,279
Speaker 4: were three entities. First of all, Micah had to have

864
00:47:10,480 --> 00:47:14,080
Speaker 4: a contract with them that was satisfactory. They had to

865
00:47:14,120 --> 00:47:17,280
Speaker 4: agree to the contract, and then we had to agree

866
00:47:17,320 --> 00:47:21,400
Speaker 4: to the trade. And so it'd be real inaccurate to

867
00:47:21,560 --> 00:47:24,160
Speaker 4: just on our part say what our time frame was

868
00:47:24,520 --> 00:47:29,879
Speaker 4: without knowing theirs. But I will say that certainly it

869
00:47:30,000 --> 00:47:33,319
Speaker 4: was probably still up in there this morning when they

870
00:47:33,320 --> 00:47:37,520
Speaker 4: went to practice. Kenny practiced out there with him today,

871
00:47:37,600 --> 00:47:40,839
Speaker 4: and so you might say that it was technically up

872
00:47:40,880 --> 00:47:43,400
Speaker 4: in there this morning, make no mistake about it. What

873
00:47:43,640 --> 00:47:50,680
Speaker 4: wasn't up in the air was our consideration as a

874
00:47:50,960 --> 00:47:57,040
Speaker 4: complete organization that if we could get this done with

875
00:47:57,239 --> 00:48:00,480
Speaker 4: our terms, we would make the trade. And that was

876
00:48:00,560 --> 00:48:05,600
Speaker 4: a complete unanimity in the decision making.

877
00:48:05,640 --> 00:48:07,880
Speaker 11: Why did you give them permission to talk to negotiate?

878
00:48:07,960 --> 00:48:13,440
Speaker 4: Though I'm not I don't know that I want to.

879
00:48:17,040 --> 00:48:20,640
Speaker 18: According to them, they came to you and and asked

880
00:48:20,680 --> 00:48:23,759
Speaker 18: about doing a deal or trying to get something done,

881
00:48:23,760 --> 00:48:25,040
Speaker 18: and you said, play on the fifty year.

882
00:48:26,600 --> 00:48:28,600
Speaker 4: Excuse me, excuse me, tell them to play on the

883
00:48:28,640 --> 00:48:33,480
Speaker 4: fifty year or who is they and we persons.

884
00:48:33,080 --> 00:48:35,520
Speaker 11: And move letter? Did they tell did you tell them

885
00:48:35,560 --> 00:48:36,560
Speaker 11: to play on the fifty year.

886
00:48:38,239 --> 00:48:40,239
Speaker 4: That they wanted to play on the fifth year?

887
00:48:40,480 --> 00:48:40,719
Speaker 1: No?

888
00:48:40,719 --> 00:48:43,080
Speaker 18: No, they I'm sorry, I'm sorry they came to you

889
00:48:43,480 --> 00:48:47,520
Speaker 18: as recently this week or recently and try to jump

890
00:48:47,560 --> 00:48:48,360
Speaker 18: start negotiating.

891
00:48:48,440 --> 00:48:52,120
Speaker 4: Yeah, we had some dialogue. I'm not going to get

892
00:48:52,120 --> 00:48:56,160
Speaker 4: into specifics because I don't think that characterizes it. But

893
00:48:56,280 --> 00:48:58,520
Speaker 4: it was not in any way out of the order

894
00:48:59,239 --> 00:49:03,200
Speaker 4: or anything like that. But basically, I think I've read

895
00:49:03,360 --> 00:49:07,400
Speaker 4: where they said that. I replied, we're playing another contract

896
00:49:07,440 --> 00:49:12,200
Speaker 4: as it exist right now, get ready to play Philadelphia. Correct,

897
00:49:12,960 --> 00:49:14,120
Speaker 4: that was correct?

898
00:49:15,080 --> 00:49:17,840
Speaker 11: Thank you, cod Jerry Tart with ESPN.

899
00:49:21,320 --> 00:49:25,600
Speaker 19: If you were willing to guarantee the highest highest amount

900
00:49:25,600 --> 00:49:28,080
Speaker 19: of money for a non quarterback back in March, but

901
00:49:28,120 --> 00:49:31,480
Speaker 19: you're also open to possibly making in trade, why not

902
00:49:32,160 --> 00:49:34,400
Speaker 19: do more or look at it more before the draft

903
00:49:34,400 --> 00:49:36,880
Speaker 19: where you would be able to gather those at least

904
00:49:37,200 --> 00:49:38,440
Speaker 19: a player or picks.

905
00:49:38,640 --> 00:49:44,400
Speaker 4: Then why waiting till I'm sorry, I think your question

906
00:49:44,719 --> 00:49:54,640
Speaker 4: is a question a question about my volition or about

907
00:49:54,960 --> 00:49:58,040
Speaker 4: what I'm thinking. Is that correct?

908
00:49:58,560 --> 00:50:00,319
Speaker 19: I'm just wondering why this wasn't something I think that

909
00:50:00,840 --> 00:50:02,719
Speaker 19: could have been done before the draft too. Maybe you

910
00:50:02,719 --> 00:50:05,880
Speaker 19: would have been able to gather draft picks that you.

911
00:50:05,880 --> 00:50:08,280
Speaker 11: Could have used in April to help the Cowboys.

912
00:50:08,400 --> 00:50:13,080
Speaker 4: Yeah, I'll speculate with you, because I haven't gone that

913
00:50:13,160 --> 00:50:15,920
Speaker 4: deep into my thinking about why I didn't do it

914
00:50:15,960 --> 00:50:17,440
Speaker 4: and when I should have done it and all that.

915
00:50:17,560 --> 00:50:20,760
Speaker 4: Really I'm not and I'm not trying to be cute, okay,

916
00:50:21,360 --> 00:50:25,440
Speaker 4: But when I offered the contract that I offered him

917
00:50:25,480 --> 00:50:29,680
Speaker 4: back in April, he flew in from out of the country,

918
00:50:29,840 --> 00:50:33,520
Speaker 4: wanted to come right in. I said, no, get your

919
00:50:33,600 --> 00:50:36,439
Speaker 4: night's sleep and come on in the next day. Get

920
00:50:36,440 --> 00:50:39,279
Speaker 4: your next day. He wanted to come right in. When

921
00:50:39,280 --> 00:50:42,839
Speaker 4: I did that, we offered him a contract to come

922
00:50:42,840 --> 00:50:47,120
Speaker 4: play for the Dallas Cowboys. And it was a good one. Okay, now,

923
00:50:47,320 --> 00:50:50,160
Speaker 4: it was more guaranteed than what I've been reported that

924
00:50:50,320 --> 00:50:54,720
Speaker 4: was here now. But my point is, without getting into detail,

925
00:50:55,080 --> 00:51:03,000
Speaker 4: that was a very genuine negotiation and we changed I

926
00:51:03,160 --> 00:51:06,960
Speaker 4: changed the amounts, and then we left, and then he

927
00:51:07,080 --> 00:51:12,840
Speaker 4: called back and talked to Steve and Stephen negotiated amounts.

928
00:51:12,880 --> 00:51:16,440
Speaker 4: We did those. We changed those amounts that he called

929
00:51:16,480 --> 00:51:21,280
Speaker 4: back from and then of course the rest is history.

930
00:51:21,400 --> 00:51:25,839
Speaker 4: When the time came to say let's go, then he said,

931
00:51:25,920 --> 00:51:32,239
Speaker 4: well let's start the negotiation. And again, Uh, nothing in

932
00:51:32,280 --> 00:51:36,239
Speaker 4: the world am I criticizing Michael about at all that

933
00:51:36,440 --> 00:51:40,440
Speaker 4: was ever bent his right And Micah has never been

934
00:51:40,480 --> 00:51:44,120
Speaker 4: anything but so pleasant for me to be around. I

935
00:51:44,160 --> 00:51:46,080
Speaker 4: want to be real clear about it. Not that it

936
00:51:46,200 --> 00:51:50,759
Speaker 4: simalies that it's not. Uh, things are good here, Things

937
00:51:50,800 --> 00:51:54,080
Speaker 4: are good here. We have just decided that it was

938
00:51:54,120 --> 00:51:57,399
Speaker 4: in the best interest of our team to take the

939
00:51:57,440 --> 00:52:01,279
Speaker 4: consideration that we have. We appreciate his for years, but

940
00:52:01,440 --> 00:52:05,640
Speaker 4: we can take that consideration and we can win in

941
00:52:05,719 --> 00:52:09,160
Speaker 4: our minds more than had we gone the other route

942
00:52:09,160 --> 00:52:12,560
Speaker 4: and signed. That's not a negative on Micah. That's just

943
00:52:13,040 --> 00:52:14,480
Speaker 4: unique to our circumstances.

944
00:52:14,480 --> 00:52:18,760
Speaker 19: Were there any trade discussions prior to the draft regarding.

945
00:52:18,320 --> 00:52:22,360
Speaker 4: Micah, trade discussions with who.

946
00:52:22,280 --> 00:52:26,640
Speaker 11: With other teams regarding no, no, no, could you have

947
00:52:26,719 --> 00:52:27,520
Speaker 11: done something?

948
00:52:27,560 --> 00:52:31,719
Speaker 4: Then we had them. We had them, but we didn't

949
00:52:31,719 --> 00:52:32,279
Speaker 4: have them with him.

950
00:52:32,280 --> 00:52:36,799
Speaker 16: But the drafts in April, by the way, when we

951
00:52:36,800 --> 00:52:39,200
Speaker 16: were talking to Micah personally, right.

952
00:52:39,239 --> 00:52:40,800
Speaker 11: At the end of the month, this was at the beginning.

953
00:52:40,880 --> 00:52:44,480
Speaker 4: I got you, oh, you mean a day earlier or what.

954
00:52:46,760 --> 00:52:49,080
Speaker 4: I'm not frustrated with that.

955
00:52:49,480 --> 00:52:51,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm short with the Atlantic, Jerry.

956
00:52:51,440 --> 00:52:54,320
Speaker 10: This is just making a move like this isn't something

957
00:52:54,320 --> 00:52:56,560
Speaker 10: that you normally do. You don't usually move away from

958
00:52:56,560 --> 00:52:58,600
Speaker 10: star players in their prime.

959
00:52:59,280 --> 00:53:01,000
Speaker 1: Why is this different right now?

960
00:53:01,040 --> 00:53:04,400
Speaker 4: As a matter of fact, I've been criticized for staying

961
00:53:04,440 --> 00:53:09,240
Speaker 4: with players too long. The ones that have that have had,

962
00:53:09,440 --> 00:53:13,400
Speaker 4: if you will, a relationship, for working together relationship. I

963
00:53:13,440 --> 00:53:16,760
Speaker 4: had that kind of relationship with Michaeh. Like I said,

964
00:53:16,800 --> 00:53:20,000
Speaker 4: I sat with him at a couple of one super

965
00:53:20,000 --> 00:53:22,840
Speaker 4: Bowl for sure, and about here and knew his families,

966
00:53:22,920 --> 00:53:25,560
Speaker 4: had an hour and a half visit with his mother

967
00:53:26,040 --> 00:53:29,000
Speaker 4: during the whole first half last weekend, sitting there with

968
00:53:29,040 --> 00:53:31,520
Speaker 4: me watching the game up in the box, up in

969
00:53:31,560 --> 00:53:34,719
Speaker 4: the suite where we watched the game. And so my

970
00:53:34,800 --> 00:53:40,080
Speaker 4: point is, there's none of that here. Feel that very

971
00:53:40,120 --> 00:53:45,840
Speaker 4: good about it in our judgment, this gives us a

972
00:53:45,960 --> 00:53:50,439
Speaker 4: better chance to be a better team than we have

973
00:53:50,560 --> 00:53:54,880
Speaker 4: been the last few several years since Michael has been here.

974
00:53:55,360 --> 00:53:58,600
Speaker 4: Not any negative on Michael, but we're trying to get better.

975
00:53:58,680 --> 00:54:01,560
Speaker 4: We're trying to stop the run, stay in the hunt.

976
00:54:02,200 --> 00:54:04,720
Speaker 10: Bother you at all with the way maybe he carried himself,

977
00:54:04,840 --> 00:54:07,800
Speaker 10: the laying on the training table during the game, and

978
00:54:08,120 --> 00:54:09,000
Speaker 10: some of those things like.

979
00:54:08,960 --> 00:54:15,160
Speaker 4: That, Oh that's not, that is not I didn't see it.

980
00:54:15,239 --> 00:54:21,239
Speaker 4: I saw pictures of that. But those aren't ways that

981
00:54:21,360 --> 00:54:26,719
Speaker 4: you make decisions that you handled being a player and

982
00:54:26,840 --> 00:54:31,520
Speaker 4: a team concept and the sharpness and paying attention first

983
00:54:31,560 --> 00:54:35,560
Speaker 4: of all, ask our booker, and you can get your

984
00:54:35,680 --> 00:54:38,279
Speaker 4: butt run over down there if you don't look at

985
00:54:38,320 --> 00:54:41,480
Speaker 4: what's going on out on the field, like lost Booker

986
00:54:41,560 --> 00:54:48,040
Speaker 4: because of it, Sonny or Thursday, Nick harris Ford Star Telegram.

987
00:54:48,160 --> 00:54:49,680
Speaker 20: Jerry, you had said a couple of weeks ago in

988
00:54:49,719 --> 00:54:52,480
Speaker 20: an interview with Steven A that you were never considering

989
00:54:52,560 --> 00:54:54,800
Speaker 20: trading Michael Parsons. Was that a tactic at the moment

990
00:54:54,920 --> 00:54:57,479
Speaker 20: or did your tune eventually change the week.

991
00:54:57,600 --> 00:54:59,640
Speaker 4: Do you really think if I wanted someone to be

992
00:54:59,680 --> 00:55:01,719
Speaker 4: inter to him that I would say, oh I'm going

993
00:55:01,800 --> 00:55:06,600
Speaker 4: to trade him. It's the opposite. It's the opposite, of course,

994
00:55:07,000 --> 00:55:12,480
Speaker 4: And I thank you for writing it. I really do.

995
00:55:14,480 --> 00:55:17,440
Speaker 1: He said that it was a unanimous decision to make

996
00:55:17,480 --> 00:55:18,360
Speaker 1: this deal today.

997
00:55:18,400 --> 00:55:19,640
Speaker 11: Yes, who was involved in that.

998
00:55:19,600 --> 00:55:25,120
Speaker 4: Process, the entire coaching and the representatives of the entire

999
00:55:25,200 --> 00:55:30,000
Speaker 4: coaching as well as our entire front office, everyone that

1000
00:55:30,160 --> 00:55:33,759
Speaker 4: is involved that has an interest in going forward that

1001
00:55:33,840 --> 00:55:36,960
Speaker 4: we counsel with, and as I've told you many times

1002
00:55:37,640 --> 00:55:41,239
Speaker 4: of contrary to maybe something that's written, sometimes what I

1003
00:55:41,320 --> 00:55:48,560
Speaker 4: really do get huge input and dialogue and opinions from

1004
00:55:48,600 --> 00:55:51,920
Speaker 4: everybody in our organization. And this was unanimous with the.

1005
00:55:51,960 --> 00:55:55,200
Speaker 17: Leadership Council of the players part of that talk.

1006
00:55:56,320 --> 00:56:00,319
Speaker 4: People that were on it were certainly had common many

1007
00:56:00,600 --> 00:56:04,720
Speaker 4: points informally because of the fact that we were around

1008
00:56:04,800 --> 00:56:08,160
Speaker 4: the training camp and we got members that were training

1009
00:56:08,200 --> 00:56:09,480
Speaker 4: camp that are on that council.

1010
00:56:12,480 --> 00:56:12,960
Speaker 11: Tomoy R.

1011
00:56:13,080 --> 00:56:16,640
Speaker 20: Stoles, Cowboys Psychondri set back in it was April that

1012
00:56:16,960 --> 00:56:18,520
Speaker 20: one of the things you were looking for from Mike

1013
00:56:18,600 --> 00:56:20,440
Speaker 20: E before extension was leadership.

1014
00:56:20,680 --> 00:56:23,120
Speaker 11: Did you see him take those kinds of steps for you?

1015
00:56:23,160 --> 00:56:25,960
Speaker 11: And was that part of the decision to ultimately training.

1016
00:56:27,680 --> 00:56:39,000
Speaker 4: I wanted an elevation because he was going to be

1017
00:56:39,239 --> 00:56:46,280
Speaker 4: elevated to an elite status relative to financial the percent

1018
00:56:46,520 --> 00:56:50,120
Speaker 4: of the cap that he got relative to all the players.

1019
00:56:51,040 --> 00:56:54,920
Speaker 4: And I really believe strongly that when you have that,

1020
00:56:56,080 --> 00:57:02,160
Speaker 4: then you have an added responsibility to show leadership for

1021
00:57:02,239 --> 00:57:04,880
Speaker 4: the whole team when you're one of the six or

1022
00:57:04,920 --> 00:57:11,560
Speaker 4: seven that are getting two thirds of the money.

1023
00:57:12,600 --> 00:57:15,239
Speaker 20: Joe Boy Dallas want to news athletes first represents a

1024
00:57:15,239 --> 00:57:18,439
Speaker 20: good chunk of your Cowboys players, including Tyler Smith. David

1025
00:57:18,480 --> 00:57:21,160
Speaker 20: Mulgeta represents George Piggins, who's on your team. Do you

1026
00:57:21,280 --> 00:57:23,560
Speaker 20: wonder if maybe the interactions you had or didn't have

1027
00:57:23,640 --> 00:57:26,400
Speaker 20: with David muliganta might have some ramifications in terms of

1028
00:57:26,440 --> 00:57:27,720
Speaker 20: negotiations down the road.

1029
00:57:28,280 --> 00:57:31,160
Speaker 4: From everything I have heard from people that know him,

1030
00:57:32,160 --> 00:57:35,200
Speaker 4: he's not that fragile. And let me tell you something,

1031
00:57:35,240 --> 00:57:37,680
Speaker 4: you can't do this stuff. If you can't do business

1032
00:57:37,720 --> 00:57:42,160
Speaker 4: like this and be around this and be fragile, I'm not.

1033
00:57:44,040 --> 00:57:45,960
Speaker 4: It still doesn't mean you can't get mad or you

1034
00:57:46,000 --> 00:57:51,600
Speaker 4: can't get any way. But still I would think that

1035
00:57:51,720 --> 00:57:55,440
Speaker 4: with his background and what have you, he's very professional

1036
00:57:56,000 --> 00:58:02,560
Speaker 4: and is very uh willing to keep his eye on

1037
00:58:02,600 --> 00:58:05,720
Speaker 4: the ball and not get caught up in a lot

1038
00:58:05,760 --> 00:58:08,880
Speaker 4: of the other emotion or things that go on. Now,

1039
00:58:09,040 --> 00:58:13,360
Speaker 4: make no mistake about it, uh, negotiations and it's not

1040
00:58:14,200 --> 00:58:16,480
Speaker 4: it's not just a player.

1041
00:58:16,880 --> 00:58:17,040
Speaker 1: Uh.

1042
00:58:17,240 --> 00:58:19,400
Speaker 4: And as a matter of fact, I would like to

1043
00:58:19,440 --> 00:58:24,240
Speaker 4: make this comment, these are young guys relatively speaking to

1044
00:58:24,320 --> 00:58:28,760
Speaker 4: this guy. These are young guys and they haven't had

1045
00:58:29,000 --> 00:58:35,000
Speaker 4: times when these uh, their their skills and their their

1046
00:58:35,040 --> 00:58:39,919
Speaker 4: well their being of what they're contributing is measured up

1047
00:58:40,040 --> 00:58:44,240
Speaker 4: by some kind of negotiation over money. Now, anybody that

1048
00:58:44,320 --> 00:58:47,880
Speaker 4: doesn't understand that doesn't understand human beings. We all get

1049
00:58:48,520 --> 00:58:53,760
Speaker 4: flair over that. I'm eighty two. I flare over it today.

1050
00:58:54,360 --> 00:58:58,400
Speaker 4: That's part of that's that's that goes with it. And

1051
00:58:58,520 --> 00:59:03,720
Speaker 4: to understand that is frankly not necessarily your learning when

1052
00:59:03,760 --> 00:59:07,560
Speaker 4: you're negotiating at the level Micah or his agents are,

1053
00:59:08,160 --> 00:59:11,760
Speaker 4: but certainly on down the line earlier. That's a big

1054
00:59:11,840 --> 00:59:16,720
Speaker 4: part of evolving. That's why my third year alignemen sometimes

1055
00:59:17,360 --> 00:59:20,200
Speaker 4: are better and show up when they didn't show up

1056
00:59:20,200 --> 00:59:23,040
Speaker 4: in the first year. People evolved. I look at it

1057
00:59:23,080 --> 00:59:29,880
Speaker 4: that way. Who was it, stephen A. Stephen A said,

1058
00:59:30,160 --> 00:59:33,160
Speaker 4: Jerry said, you should have more grace, you should be

1059
00:59:33,160 --> 00:59:36,320
Speaker 4: a little more sensitive. These are young guys, and you've

1060
00:59:36,360 --> 00:59:39,920
Speaker 4: been down that pike a lot and have it. What

1061
00:59:40,080 --> 00:59:43,360
Speaker 4: stephen A got back from me was I've had more

1062
00:59:43,480 --> 00:59:47,840
Speaker 4: grace than any human I know of. I've had more grace.

1063
00:59:48,880 --> 00:59:52,560
Speaker 4: Forgiveness is just to say Okay. Grace is when okay,

1064
00:59:52,600 --> 00:59:56,439
Speaker 4: plus they give you a lift, that's grace. You all

1065
00:59:56,440 --> 01:00:00,560
Speaker 4: know that. So having said that, I believe that our

1066
01:00:00,600 --> 01:00:03,479
Speaker 4: players and I wouldn't be doing this if I didn't

1067
01:00:03,520 --> 01:00:09,120
Speaker 4: have a big, big, big feeling for our players and

1068
01:00:09,240 --> 01:00:15,000
Speaker 4: frankly our coaches. And so there's never been a case

1069
01:00:15,760 --> 01:00:21,760
Speaker 4: where I ever passed a ninosecond had a bad feeling.

1070
01:00:21,840 --> 01:00:25,640
Speaker 4: After we're through with negotiations and we're trying to sit

1071
01:00:25,720 --> 01:00:30,280
Speaker 4: down and go forward with what we said we would

1072
01:00:30,280 --> 01:00:33,640
Speaker 4: do and has played together. You guys give me a

1073
01:00:33,640 --> 01:00:36,680
Speaker 4: great opportunity to communicate. And I'm not the first one

1074
01:00:36,720 --> 01:00:39,480
Speaker 4: you've had coaches tell you they communicate with their players

1075
01:00:39,760 --> 01:00:43,320
Speaker 4: through the people in this room. And so you guys

1076
01:00:43,400 --> 01:00:47,640
Speaker 4: give us a great form to express ourselves in a

1077
01:00:47,680 --> 01:00:51,560
Speaker 4: way and our fans. I thought that it was sensitive

1078
01:00:51,600 --> 01:00:55,040
Speaker 4: to fans, then that'd be a different story too, I don't.

1079
01:00:55,240 --> 01:00:59,320
Speaker 4: I think it's a part another little nuance of being

1080
01:00:59,400 --> 01:01:02,280
Speaker 4: involved in game. Thank you guys for involving them in

1081
01:01:02,360 --> 01:01:06,640
Speaker 4: these nuances. That's why we did drift room cameras, That's

1082
01:01:06,640 --> 01:01:09,560
Speaker 4: why we did all that. So, boy, I believe in

1083
01:01:09,640 --> 01:01:14,760
Speaker 4: the process and the discussion of the process and the

1084
01:01:14,840 --> 01:01:16,120
Speaker 4: questions you have about it.

1085
01:01:17,000 --> 01:01:19,440
Speaker 20: You mentioned looking in the mirror. Do you think you

1086
01:01:19,480 --> 01:01:22,600
Speaker 20: still plan to continue your player first negotiation tactic that

1087
01:01:22,680 --> 01:01:24,240
Speaker 20: you use and make it here where you want to

1088
01:01:24,280 --> 01:01:25,440
Speaker 20: negotiate with him directly.

1089
01:01:26,000 --> 01:01:39,080
Speaker 4: Oh, I don't think there's any question once you are together.

1090
01:01:41,520 --> 01:01:53,280
Speaker 4: I've had hundreds of times and incidences where literally hundreds

1091
01:01:53,320 --> 01:01:57,000
Speaker 4: over the last thirty five years of where the kinds

1092
01:01:57,040 --> 01:02:00,840
Speaker 4: of relationship that I have with a player and the

1093
01:02:00,920 --> 01:02:05,200
Speaker 4: things we do, and that goes both ways, goes them

1094
01:02:05,280 --> 01:02:08,600
Speaker 4: and me because those players that were twenty five go

1095
01:02:08,760 --> 01:02:13,560
Speaker 4: up to be fifty five and I'm still We're still talking, baby,

1096
01:02:14,320 --> 01:02:17,960
Speaker 4: and we have relationships. That's a natural thing to happen

1097
01:02:17,960 --> 01:02:22,480
Speaker 4: when you work together during times that bond you and

1098
01:02:22,560 --> 01:02:25,000
Speaker 4: so I feel that way back. That's why I'm here, Frankly,

1099
01:02:25,400 --> 01:02:31,760
Speaker 4: it's my main reason for being here. So those things

1100
01:02:31,760 --> 01:02:35,480
Speaker 4: that go over those years are treasures with those with

1101
01:02:35,600 --> 01:02:42,520
Speaker 4: those guys, their attorney or their agent isn't necessarily anywhere

1102
01:02:42,560 --> 01:02:46,040
Speaker 4: to be found ten years later. Not only that, sometimes

1103
01:02:46,080 --> 01:02:48,440
Speaker 4: they're not even to be found because one guy in

1104
01:02:48,480 --> 01:02:50,919
Speaker 4: the agency's got it handed off to another guy. Now,

1105
01:02:52,400 --> 01:02:54,960
Speaker 4: So these guys that are sitting here with your Dallas

1106
01:02:54,960 --> 01:02:57,760
Speaker 4: Cowboys and the people that are out here putting it

1107
01:02:57,800 --> 01:03:01,080
Speaker 4: on the line and gonna build memories that are a

1108
01:03:01,160 --> 01:03:04,720
Speaker 4: part of their legacies and their families for years and years.

1109
01:03:05,680 --> 01:03:10,360
Speaker 4: Then you can't do that through an agency, I mean

1110
01:03:10,400 --> 01:03:13,760
Speaker 4: through a third party at least I can. And so

1111
01:03:13,920 --> 01:03:15,960
Speaker 4: you're absolutely right if we're going to be at that

1112
01:03:16,080 --> 01:03:20,840
Speaker 4: significant time and brother, this is significant the financial consideration,

1113
01:03:21,440 --> 01:03:25,800
Speaker 4: especially nowadays, and it always has been, relatively speaking, When

1114
01:03:25,840 --> 01:03:29,160
Speaker 4: you're doing that in a young person's life, then I

1115
01:03:29,320 --> 01:03:32,320
Speaker 4: want to be where I can be. I want to

1116
01:03:32,360 --> 01:03:34,120
Speaker 4: be in the mix there. I want to be in

1117
01:03:34,200 --> 01:03:37,000
Speaker 4: the I want to see me get mad or tear

1118
01:03:37,200 --> 01:03:41,080
Speaker 4: tear up, or see me say God, I'll do it.

1119
01:03:41,880 --> 01:03:44,920
Speaker 4: As old Michael Irving told me one time. He said,

1120
01:03:45,160 --> 01:03:46,919
Speaker 4: Jerry said that we're just not gonna do it. I'm

1121
01:03:46,960 --> 01:03:49,680
Speaker 4: just not going to do it. And I said, Michael.

1122
01:03:50,560 --> 01:03:52,000
Speaker 4: We were just sitting there with the two of us,

1123
01:03:53,320 --> 01:03:56,640
Speaker 4: and I said, Michael, there's an old West Texas town

1124
01:03:58,080 --> 01:04:03,640
Speaker 4: called El Passo. I help passle and he goes, God knows,

1125
01:04:03,720 --> 01:04:06,160
Speaker 4: get it to me. I can't deal with you on

1126
01:04:06,200 --> 01:04:09,360
Speaker 4: a basis like that. Let's go. So my point is

1127
01:04:09,960 --> 01:04:13,720
Speaker 4: all that that time did was last We're still doing it. Yeah,

1128
01:04:13,960 --> 01:04:18,480
Speaker 4: thirty something years later. That stuff happens, and so I

1129
01:04:18,520 --> 01:04:21,560
Speaker 4: don't view it's a negative for the player either. They're

1130
01:04:21,600 --> 01:04:24,080
Speaker 4: going to get more out of it. I hope than

1131
01:04:24,200 --> 01:04:26,720
Speaker 4: if I'm around, they'll get more out of it than

1132
01:04:26,840 --> 01:04:27,760
Speaker 4: just that contract.

1133
01:04:28,360 --> 01:04:30,520
Speaker 16: Only other thing I'd add to that is there we

1134
01:04:30,560 --> 01:04:34,920
Speaker 16: do have players that come in and we totally respect

1135
01:04:34,960 --> 01:04:38,360
Speaker 16: it that say I don't feel comfortable talking about my contract,

1136
01:04:38,400 --> 01:04:40,000
Speaker 16: I'd like you to go through my agent, and we

1137
01:04:40,040 --> 01:04:43,400
Speaker 16: do that respectfully. I mean, you're not required to come

1138
01:04:43,400 --> 01:04:47,200
Speaker 16: in and negotiate the contract yourself. All the ones we've

1139
01:04:47,240 --> 01:04:50,560
Speaker 16: done like that are those who request to come in

1140
01:04:50,600 --> 01:04:54,120
Speaker 16: and visit with your ear myself. That's the only ones

1141
01:04:54,160 --> 01:04:54,919
Speaker 16: we've done that with.

1142
01:04:56,600 --> 01:05:02,200
Speaker 4: The issue here was not to switch who we were

1143
01:05:02,240 --> 01:05:08,280
Speaker 4: talking with. The issue here was starting over after I

1144
01:05:08,360 --> 01:05:13,760
Speaker 4: had really dug deep change, Dug deep more, Doug Moore,

1145
01:05:14,040 --> 01:05:17,160
Speaker 4: Doug Moore, handed it off to Steven he Dug Moore,

1146
01:05:17,400 --> 01:05:21,560
Speaker 4: Doug Moore. Now we through, We're through, and then to

1147
01:05:21,600 --> 01:05:26,520
Speaker 4: say let's start negotiation pretty clever if you think about it,

1148
01:05:26,520 --> 01:05:28,000
Speaker 4: on our part, that's pretty good.

1149
01:05:30,520 --> 01:05:33,840
Speaker 8: Scott Rixon with the this might be for both of

1150
01:05:33,960 --> 01:05:34,560
Speaker 8: you feel.

1151
01:05:34,360 --> 01:05:37,200
Speaker 14: Something you want to offer. Was there any point that

1152
01:05:37,240 --> 01:05:40,400
Speaker 14: you felt like Michael genuinely did not want to be

1153
01:05:40,440 --> 01:05:41,040
Speaker 14: here anymore?

1154
01:05:41,080 --> 01:05:43,160
Speaker 11: And if so, when was that point.

1155
01:05:45,240 --> 01:05:49,880
Speaker 4: I didn't give that a thought. I never felt, but

1156
01:05:49,880 --> 01:05:54,880
Speaker 4: but I felt felt. I've I'm satisfied my canoes that

1157
01:05:55,440 --> 01:05:58,680
Speaker 4: I care about him, but as much as he uh uh.

1158
01:05:59,400 --> 01:06:02,120
Speaker 4: But more important than that, I just want you to

1159
01:06:02,160 --> 01:06:05,240
Speaker 4: know I didn't give it a thought. It didn't change

1160
01:06:05,240 --> 01:06:08,000
Speaker 4: one thing I was doing, and I'm not trying to

1161
01:06:08,000 --> 01:06:12,560
Speaker 4: be anyway other than I just didn't let that stop

1162
01:06:12,720 --> 01:06:18,080
Speaker 4: the train from accomplishing. Frankly, what we end up accomplishing today,

1163
01:06:19,600 --> 01:06:24,640
Speaker 4: don't make so much out of that. Well, that not

1164
01:06:24,880 --> 01:06:28,920
Speaker 4: talking caused this thing to be done. There's a little

1165
01:06:28,920 --> 01:06:31,080
Speaker 4: thing called stopping and run. There's a little thing called

1166
01:06:31,400 --> 01:06:35,200
Speaker 4: football team having the most having the resources of those

1167
01:06:35,240 --> 01:06:39,400
Speaker 4: picks and having the resources of player we got that

1168
01:06:39,520 --> 01:06:41,400
Speaker 4: had a heck of a lot more to do with

1169
01:06:41,440 --> 01:06:43,600
Speaker 4: it than any hiccup we might have had in April.

1170
01:06:45,640 --> 01:06:48,640
Speaker 17: Sodis the athletic Garry.

1171
01:06:49,040 --> 01:06:51,800
Speaker 10: Do you have any regrets over the process of the

1172
01:06:51,880 --> 01:06:53,600
Speaker 10: last few months and how things went.

1173
01:07:03,200 --> 01:07:11,200
Speaker 4: I am very excited about, very excited beyond any consideration

1174
01:07:11,320 --> 01:07:15,000
Speaker 4: of a regret, of the consideration that we got in

1175
01:07:15,080 --> 01:07:19,280
Speaker 4: this trade and to have the player. I'm very excited

1176
01:07:19,280 --> 01:07:23,800
Speaker 4: about that. It is more in keeping within my mind

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01:07:23,880 --> 01:07:27,760
Speaker 4: what's in the best interests of the Dallas Cowboys.

1178
01:07:27,400 --> 01:07:29,840
Speaker 20: In terms of things that were said in the media

1179
01:07:29,920 --> 01:07:31,600
Speaker 20: about the agent, any things like that.

1180
01:07:31,720 --> 01:07:33,560
Speaker 2: Do you is there any things that you would do

1181
01:07:33,640 --> 01:07:35,360
Speaker 2: differently if you were to go back.

1182
01:07:35,600 --> 01:07:39,480
Speaker 4: Oh no, no, not at all. Not nothing at all

1183
01:07:39,720 --> 01:07:43,560
Speaker 4: in terms of regret. And you mentioned you're asking if

1184
01:07:43,600 --> 01:07:50,200
Speaker 4: I regret. No, I don't regret that at all. You know,

1185
01:07:50,280 --> 01:07:53,720
Speaker 4: I'm very, very excited about the prospects of what we've

1186
01:07:53,720 --> 01:07:56,760
Speaker 4: done for the Cowboys here. I wouldn't have done it.

1187
01:07:58,000 --> 01:08:00,640
Speaker 4: I wouldn't have done it. I had totally being able

1188
01:08:00,680 --> 01:08:04,480
Speaker 4: to have it the other way. So I'm excited we

1189
01:08:04,600 --> 01:08:05,720
Speaker 4: got what we wanted.

1190
01:08:09,040 --> 01:08:13,240
Speaker 1: Edward w FAA Jeredy have any misgivings.

1191
01:08:12,520 --> 01:08:16,759
Speaker 17: About trading a player like Micah to gree Bay, which

1192
01:08:16,840 --> 01:08:19,200
Speaker 17: is a team you have to go through to get

1193
01:08:19,240 --> 01:08:21,639
Speaker 17: to a Super Bowl, a team that has ended your

1194
01:08:21,680 --> 01:08:24,040
Speaker 17: postseason three times in the sears.

1195
01:08:24,680 --> 01:08:33,640
Speaker 4: We cut it down by fifteen teams, sixteen teams by

1196
01:08:35,479 --> 01:08:39,599
Speaker 4: there's not but thirty one other teams, and so you're

1197
01:08:39,640 --> 01:08:41,439
Speaker 4: going to be playing half of them no matter how

1198
01:08:41,479 --> 01:08:43,519
Speaker 4: you cut it. So we just cut it down by that.

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01:08:44,760 --> 01:08:50,080
Speaker 4: Apart from in our same division, apart from being in

1200
01:08:50,160 --> 01:08:53,800
Speaker 4: the same division, I don't give that in consideration. There's

1201
01:08:53,880 --> 01:08:56,920
Speaker 4: just too many other things ed that you have to

1202
01:08:57,160 --> 01:09:02,320
Speaker 4: think about or resolved were come to grips with. That

1203
01:09:02,720 --> 01:09:06,680
Speaker 4: was a pretty far down the line. One second question.

1204
01:09:06,600 --> 01:09:10,240
Speaker 17: Her seven days from the opening of the season in Philadelphia.

1205
01:09:10,439 --> 01:09:13,160
Speaker 17: Is there any concern on your part about how your

1206
01:09:13,200 --> 01:09:16,720
Speaker 17: locker room will in your moving on from one of

1207
01:09:16,760 --> 01:09:18,160
Speaker 17: the premier players.

1208
01:09:17,800 --> 01:09:20,519
Speaker 4: In the organization, Not at all. As a matter of fact,

1209
01:09:22,000 --> 01:09:26,160
Speaker 4: I like what I like what this does.

1210
01:09:28,360 --> 01:09:29,679
Speaker 11: From a locker room.

1211
01:09:30,040 --> 01:09:33,720
Speaker 4: From the locker room. I know if you say if

1212
01:09:33,760 --> 01:09:37,120
Speaker 4: I'm worried about the locker room, I am absolutely zero

1213
01:09:37,280 --> 01:09:40,880
Speaker 4: worried about the locker room no longer. That's not meant

1214
01:09:41,080 --> 01:09:45,320
Speaker 4: to diminish anything here. I am just not concerned at

1215
01:09:45,360 --> 01:09:49,000
Speaker 4: all about the locker room. It takes a lot of

1216
01:09:49,000 --> 01:09:52,240
Speaker 4: players play this game. Locker room knows that we just

1217
01:09:52,280 --> 01:09:54,440
Speaker 4: got a lot of good players.

1218
01:09:57,160 --> 01:09:57,719
Speaker 11: Chuck ol.

1219
01:10:00,200 --> 01:10:03,160
Speaker 17: In your interview with Michael Urban last week at the

1220
01:10:03,240 --> 01:10:03,879
Speaker 17: end of it.

1221
01:10:04,520 --> 01:10:05,599
Speaker 11: You're drinking or serious.

1222
01:10:05,640 --> 01:10:08,080
Speaker 1: But you talked about having him come bring Micah in.

1223
01:10:08,200 --> 01:10:11,519
Speaker 1: So you guys to figure this all out between the

1224
01:10:11,560 --> 01:10:13,599
Speaker 1: conversation and the spring and.

1225
01:10:13,600 --> 01:10:16,240
Speaker 4: Today, and you at any point talk.

1226
01:10:16,200 --> 01:10:18,439
Speaker 1: One on one Michael tried to figure this out.

1227
01:10:18,680 --> 01:10:23,880
Speaker 4: Did I talk to Michael Micah about I'm sorry I

1228
01:10:23,920 --> 01:10:26,880
Speaker 4: didn't get put in the spring with Micah?

1229
01:10:27,160 --> 01:10:27,800
Speaker 1: Yeah?

1230
01:10:28,000 --> 01:10:31,240
Speaker 5: Between then and now, was there any point that you

1231
01:10:31,640 --> 01:10:32,080
Speaker 5: went to.

1232
01:10:32,080 --> 01:10:33,920
Speaker 1: Him or he came to you and you tried to

1233
01:10:33,960 --> 01:10:34,639
Speaker 1: figure this out?

1234
01:10:34,760 --> 01:10:38,080
Speaker 4: Man the man? After that? No, but we were talking, baby,

1235
01:10:38,400 --> 01:10:41,280
Speaker 4: we were talking. That's on the practice field. That's the

1236
01:10:41,360 --> 01:10:43,400
Speaker 4: old deal. We had the practice field. But you're talking

1237
01:10:43,400 --> 01:10:45,479
Speaker 4: about the spring. You're aware of the talk we had

1238
01:10:45,520 --> 01:10:50,200
Speaker 4: on the practice fielding. But listen, listen, everybody knew exactly

1239
01:10:50,280 --> 01:10:55,040
Speaker 4: what had happened, and they they completely knew our numbers.

1240
01:10:56,400 --> 01:11:01,960
Speaker 4: And so that's not that I've been in negotiations where

1241
01:11:02,120 --> 01:11:05,519
Speaker 4: not a lot was said then too, because you had

1242
01:11:05,600 --> 01:11:11,040
Speaker 4: given your numbers, and so there wasn't but one thing

1243
01:11:11,120 --> 01:11:17,799
Speaker 4: let to do, and that's increased the numbers. From their standpoint, Okay,

1244
01:11:18,000 --> 01:11:24,040
Speaker 4: mine would have come in. So to say that we

1245
01:11:24,120 --> 01:11:27,200
Speaker 4: didn't know what now to be very candid with you.

1246
01:11:27,280 --> 01:11:33,880
Speaker 4: There is a litany of detail that the agent as

1247
01:11:33,920 --> 01:11:37,760
Speaker 4: well as our office would have gone over with that

1248
01:11:37,880 --> 01:11:41,439
Speaker 4: agent of detail. But the big ones, the years, the

1249
01:11:41,479 --> 01:11:47,320
Speaker 4: amount it's paid, that type thing. We had discussed. I

1250
01:11:47,479 --> 01:11:50,280
Speaker 4: get it, and I think everyone does get it too.

1251
01:11:51,280 --> 01:11:54,240
Speaker 4: They wanted to go where I stopped, and they wanted

1252
01:11:54,240 --> 01:11:59,320
Speaker 4: to go from there. Is that hard for anbods? That's

1253
01:11:59,320 --> 01:12:03,439
Speaker 4: where they wanted to are. That's where I stopped. Now,

1254
01:12:04,240 --> 01:12:06,320
Speaker 4: all you could do is pick up the phone and

1255
01:12:06,320 --> 01:12:07,439
Speaker 4: say that to each other.

1256
01:12:10,360 --> 01:12:14,120
Speaker 17: About your relationship with Micah being unusual in some ways.

1257
01:12:14,120 --> 01:12:16,880
Speaker 17: That would socialize, you know, talk about the super Bowl moment.

1258
01:12:17,040 --> 01:12:20,600
Speaker 1: You feel like over these months, could you feel the

1259
01:12:20,680 --> 01:12:23,640
Speaker 1: deterioration with DILATIONSIP.

1260
01:12:25,280 --> 01:12:27,360
Speaker 4: I hadn't had a chance to watch a game with

1261
01:12:27,479 --> 01:12:29,280
Speaker 4: him or go to another Super Bowl. I would have

1262
01:12:29,400 --> 01:12:34,800
Speaker 4: to tell you after we said let's do that. So

1263
01:12:34,800 --> 01:12:37,639
Speaker 4: so I mean, I'm not trying to be cute at all.

1264
01:12:37,800 --> 01:12:44,519
Speaker 4: We have been negotiating and we basically said quit talking

1265
01:12:44,560 --> 01:12:48,680
Speaker 4: on the phone, and so we weren't talking on the

1266
01:12:48,680 --> 01:12:53,400
Speaker 4: phone during that time. And I probably don't have three

1267
01:12:53,439 --> 01:13:01,720
Speaker 4: people got my phone number and he was one of them.

1268
01:13:01,760 --> 01:13:06,160
Speaker 1: Here here put a'll zbas sport. All right, we are

1269
01:13:06,200 --> 01:13:09,320
Speaker 1: forty minutes in counting into a press conference that, knowing

1270
01:13:09,400 --> 01:13:12,160
Speaker 1: Jerry could go on for several more hours. Welcome back

1271
01:13:12,200 --> 01:13:16,600
Speaker 1: to the insiders. Tom Pellicero, Ian Rappaport, Judy Matista, Mike Garafalo.

1272
01:13:16,680 --> 01:13:19,320
Speaker 1: I'll go back to near the start of that press

1273
01:13:19,320 --> 01:13:21,679
Speaker 1: conference some of the notable things he said immediately going

1274
01:13:21,720 --> 01:13:24,519
Speaker 1: to talking about stopping the run being a big part

1275
01:13:24,520 --> 01:13:26,479
Speaker 1: of this, the fact they get Kenny Clark as something

1276
01:13:26,479 --> 01:13:31,040
Speaker 1: that can help. Saying we can manufacture pressure also invoked

1277
01:13:31,120 --> 01:13:34,120
Speaker 1: the Herschel Walker trades and this could be a tremendous thing.

1278
01:13:34,200 --> 01:13:37,000
Speaker 1: Here confirmed our Jane Slater's reporting that in the most

1279
01:13:37,040 --> 01:13:41,400
Speaker 1: recent conversations, Ian Essence told Micah, hey, you're under contract.

1280
01:13:41,439 --> 01:13:45,000
Speaker 1: Get ready to play on that contract against Philadelphia next

1281
01:13:45,000 --> 01:13:47,519
Speaker 1: Thursday night. And Judy, the one that stuck out to

1282
01:13:47,520 --> 01:13:50,040
Speaker 1: me too was if he's distilling it to one thing,

1283
01:13:50,080 --> 01:13:52,120
Speaker 1: it was we have just decided it was in the

1284
01:13:52,120 --> 01:13:55,040
Speaker 1: best interest of our team and we can win in

1285
01:13:55,120 --> 01:13:58,040
Speaker 1: our minds more than had we gone the other route

1286
01:13:58,439 --> 01:14:00,519
Speaker 1: and signed him. You covered Jerry Joe a long time.

1287
01:14:00,520 --> 01:14:01,320
Speaker 1: What John do to you?

1288
01:14:03,640 --> 01:14:04,960
Speaker 7: Yes, he seems convinced.

1289
01:14:05,000 --> 01:14:06,920
Speaker 6: I mean, here's another quote, this gives us a better

1290
01:14:07,000 --> 01:14:09,280
Speaker 6: chance to be a better team than we've been the

1291
01:14:09,400 --> 01:14:13,439
Speaker 6: last several years. As I tweeted in the moment, like

1292
01:14:13,560 --> 01:14:15,200
Speaker 6: that's a statement we're probably.

1293
01:14:14,840 --> 01:14:16,840
Speaker 7: Going to be referring to for a few years.

1294
01:14:17,200 --> 01:14:19,880
Speaker 6: They seem convinced that, first of all, if they talked

1295
01:14:19,920 --> 01:14:22,000
Speaker 6: a lot about the need to stop the run, and

1296
01:14:22,640 --> 01:14:25,559
Speaker 6: they can manufacture, they can scheme up pass rush more

1297
01:14:25,600 --> 01:14:28,240
Speaker 6: than you can scheme up stopping the run. He said

1298
01:14:28,320 --> 01:14:33,000
Speaker 6: that he seems convinced that what they got back in

1299
01:14:33,080 --> 01:14:35,479
Speaker 6: the trade for Micah is going to make them a

1300
01:14:35,560 --> 01:14:38,280
Speaker 6: better team than they would have been if they had

1301
01:14:38,320 --> 01:14:42,200
Speaker 6: retained Micah Parsons. Again, we're going to be talking about

1302
01:14:42,200 --> 01:14:44,600
Speaker 6: that for years to come. But that is certainly the

1303
01:14:44,640 --> 01:14:46,840
Speaker 6: spin they are putting on this. This was a move

1304
01:14:46,880 --> 01:14:49,320
Speaker 6: for the future, he invoked herschel Walker.

1305
01:14:49,439 --> 01:14:51,759
Speaker 7: This is nothing like the herschel Walker trade.

1306
01:14:52,000 --> 01:14:54,200
Speaker 6: Nowhere near the hall of draft picks they got there

1307
01:14:55,479 --> 01:14:59,160
Speaker 6: to be continued, but it is.

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01:14:59,120 --> 01:15:01,360
Speaker 5: A hall of draft picks could potentially help them get

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01:15:01,400 --> 01:15:03,760
Speaker 5: a quarterback down the road if they do need to.

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01:15:03,800 --> 01:15:06,519
Speaker 5: Although I've been it's actually been interesting. I've been texting

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01:15:06,560 --> 01:15:08,639
Speaker 5: with a bunch of numbers people, some of the nerves

1312
01:15:08,680 --> 01:15:10,560
Speaker 5: of the NFL to try to figure out whether or

1313
01:15:10,600 --> 01:15:13,120
Speaker 5: not this is better or worse than the Khalil mack

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01:15:13,200 --> 01:15:14,680
Speaker 5: Hall that the Raiders got.

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01:15:14,720 --> 01:15:17,240
Speaker 1: It's been tough to figure out. Not got a definitive.

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01:15:16,800 --> 01:15:19,160
Speaker 5: Answer, but at least it's not the slam dunk. Maybe

1317
01:15:19,160 --> 01:15:21,880
Speaker 5: the most people think. The one thing that sticks out

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01:15:22,040 --> 01:15:24,439
Speaker 5: at me, Mike, the one thing that I keep coming

1319
01:15:24,479 --> 01:15:26,160
Speaker 5: back to is Jerry Jones said when they had their

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01:15:26,200 --> 01:15:29,640
Speaker 5: negotiations with mikeah Parsons, they got to it what he

1321
01:15:29,680 --> 01:15:31,880
Speaker 5: thought was in agreement, which was about forty one million

1322
01:15:31,920 --> 01:15:34,800
Speaker 5: dollars or a little less per year new money. He

1323
01:15:34,880 --> 01:15:37,240
Speaker 5: thought they were done. The agents wanted to keep going.

1324
01:15:37,760 --> 01:15:40,799
Speaker 5: The packers kept going. It is forty seven million dollars

1325
01:15:41,200 --> 01:15:45,639
Speaker 5: per year new money on the extension. Micah Parsons agents

1326
01:15:45,640 --> 01:15:48,240
Speaker 5: did right by him. That is a six plus million

1327
01:15:48,280 --> 01:15:52,040
Speaker 5: dollar difference. Players should get as much money as humanly possible.

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01:15:52,400 --> 01:15:55,719
Speaker 5: This is a good outcome for mikeah Parsons. Jerry Jones

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01:15:55,720 --> 01:15:57,720
Speaker 5: and Steven Jones believe it is a good outcome for

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01:15:57,760 --> 01:16:00,799
Speaker 5: the Cowboys. We will see, but that was an excellent,

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01:16:00,920 --> 01:16:04,160
Speaker 5: excellent explanation of exactly why they think.

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01:16:04,200 --> 01:16:07,880
Speaker 2: So I got what I wanted right before the press

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01:16:07,880 --> 01:16:09,280
Speaker 2: conference said what do we want to hear? I said,

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01:16:09,280 --> 01:16:10,800
Speaker 2: I want to hear Jerry Jones say we are a

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01:16:10,840 --> 01:16:14,639
Speaker 2: better team today because of this trade set it right

1336
01:16:14,680 --> 01:16:16,639
Speaker 2: out of the gate. So that's something that he's either

1337
01:16:16,680 --> 01:16:18,320
Speaker 2: going to be right on or he's going to be

1338
01:16:18,400 --> 01:16:21,080
Speaker 2: wrong on. He could be right in spectacular fashion. He

1339
01:16:21,120 --> 01:16:23,920
Speaker 2: could be wrong in spectacular fashion. He threw down the

1340
01:16:23,920 --> 01:16:26,920
Speaker 2: gauntlet there for us to basically, like Judy said, keep

1341
01:16:26,960 --> 01:16:29,560
Speaker 2: coming back to what he said over the last forty.

1342
01:16:29,320 --> 01:16:30,280
Speaker 1: Minutes and counting.

1343
01:16:30,320 --> 01:16:33,040
Speaker 2: It was a ten minute first answer from him, Jerry

1344
01:16:33,120 --> 01:16:35,040
Speaker 2: Jones making it clear he feels like the Cowboys are

1345
01:16:35,080 --> 01:16:37,120
Speaker 2: a better team without Micah Parsons.

1346
01:16:37,360 --> 01:16:39,519
Speaker 1: Than they would have been with him. With him with

1347
01:16:39,560 --> 01:16:41,439
Speaker 1: the big contract, that was a big part of them.

1348
01:16:43,040 --> 01:16:43,240
Speaker 7: Right.

1349
01:16:43,479 --> 01:16:48,320
Speaker 1: A blockbuster trade by any measure. The Cowboys agreed to

1350
01:16:48,360 --> 01:16:51,800
Speaker 1: send Micah Parsons to the Packers in exchange for first

1351
01:16:51,880 --> 01:16:55,120
Speaker 1: round picks in twenty twenty six and twenty twenty seven,

1352
01:16:55,479 --> 01:16:59,000
Speaker 1: along with Pro Bowl defensive tackle Kenny Clark. Ever, the

1353
01:16:59,160 --> 01:17:03,200
Speaker 1: salesman Ry Jones also noted during that lengthy media conference

1354
01:17:03,240 --> 01:17:06,160
Speaker 1: that is still going on, and I quote, not only

1355
01:17:06,200 --> 01:17:07,800
Speaker 1: do we have four first round picks over the next

1356
01:17:07,840 --> 01:17:10,760
Speaker 1: two years. Nothing says we can't use some of those

1357
01:17:10,840 --> 01:17:15,040
Speaker 1: picks right now to go get somebody right now, Jane Slater,

1358
01:17:15,120 --> 01:17:16,920
Speaker 1: Jerry is giving people. It tastes. What could the next

1359
01:17:16,960 --> 01:17:19,160
Speaker 1: step be. I don't know that anything is imminent at

1360
01:17:19,160 --> 01:17:22,240
Speaker 1: this point. They certainly got draft capital. They clearly filled

1361
01:17:22,240 --> 01:17:24,519
Speaker 1: a need that they said was glaring on their team

1362
01:17:24,800 --> 01:17:26,800
Speaker 1: in terms of a defensive tackle, to the extent that

1363
01:17:26,800 --> 01:17:29,559
Speaker 1: they didn't even engage in trade talks with anybody who

1364
01:17:29,560 --> 01:17:32,160
Speaker 1: couldn't trade them a defensive tackle. You know that team,

1365
01:17:32,240 --> 01:17:35,519
Speaker 1: Jane better than anybody else. Tell me what you just

1366
01:17:35,640 --> 01:17:37,360
Speaker 1: heard of what it means from Jerry Jones.

1367
01:17:39,520 --> 01:17:41,400
Speaker 8: Well, I do think it's apropo that when I look

1368
01:17:41,439 --> 01:17:44,720
Speaker 8: outside it is stormy and very dark today, kind of

1369
01:17:44,760 --> 01:17:46,760
Speaker 8: the mood over this city. But there were a couple

1370
01:17:46,800 --> 01:17:49,080
Speaker 8: of things that stood out for me. One, they are

1371
01:17:49,160 --> 01:17:51,519
Speaker 8: absolutely correct about the need to stop the run.

1372
01:17:51,600 --> 01:17:53,000
Speaker 9: I talked about this last week.

1373
01:17:53,160 --> 01:17:54,880
Speaker 8: You know, they were bottom of the league, giving up

1374
01:17:54,880 --> 01:17:57,559
Speaker 8: an average of one hundred and thirty seven rushing yards

1375
01:17:57,560 --> 01:18:00,879
Speaker 8: a game. A Kid's Philadelphia in that one week seventeen,

1376
01:18:01,000 --> 01:18:03,559
Speaker 8: one hundred and seventy nine yards, they were averaging about

1377
01:18:03,560 --> 01:18:06,200
Speaker 8: four yards of pop and so this is something they've

1378
01:18:06,200 --> 01:18:09,959
Speaker 8: talked about internally. When I reached out to former coaches

1379
01:18:10,120 --> 01:18:12,120
Speaker 8: and I said, what do you think is happening here

1380
01:18:12,160 --> 01:18:14,200
Speaker 8: with the Mica deal. As one person explained to me,

1381
01:18:14,680 --> 01:18:18,360
Speaker 8: the building had concerns that Mica just didn't love football enough.

1382
01:18:18,439 --> 01:18:20,400
Speaker 8: In other words, he would sort of drift in and

1383
01:18:20,400 --> 01:18:21,400
Speaker 8: out of meeting rooms.

1384
01:18:21,400 --> 01:18:22,719
Speaker 9: They couldn't get him to focus.

1385
01:18:22,840 --> 01:18:26,960
Speaker 8: And this person truly believes that the Cowboys have convinced

1386
01:18:26,960 --> 01:18:31,479
Speaker 8: themselves that this is addition by subtraction, and Jerry was

1387
01:18:31,600 --> 01:18:33,519
Speaker 8: essentially trying to sell that to us.

1388
01:18:33,600 --> 01:18:34,880
Speaker 9: I think maybe there's a part of him.

1389
01:18:34,920 --> 01:18:37,760
Speaker 8: Even though he says they were sort of resolute in this,

1390
01:18:38,360 --> 01:18:41,479
Speaker 8: I still think maybe he needed some talking about this

1391
01:18:41,680 --> 01:18:43,760
Speaker 8: leading up to this decision today. But I think the

1392
01:18:43,880 --> 01:18:46,880
Speaker 8: building and maybe even some of the locker room thought,

1393
01:18:47,280 --> 01:18:50,000
Speaker 8: you know, maybe we should move on. Not necessarily a

1394
01:18:50,040 --> 01:18:53,200
Speaker 8: full dislike or wanting to move on from Micah, but

1395
01:18:53,360 --> 01:18:56,120
Speaker 8: realizing you do have this generational hall. This thing has

1396
01:18:56,160 --> 01:18:59,679
Speaker 8: gotten messy. He wants to get paid. We can't pay

1397
01:18:59,760 --> 01:19:01,720
Speaker 8: him right now because of what we've done with our

1398
01:19:01,800 --> 01:19:04,599
Speaker 8: roster in paying Seedy Lamb. You're gonna have George Pickens

1399
01:19:04,600 --> 01:19:06,720
Speaker 8: coming up, Tyler Smith, and I think they had to

1400
01:19:06,800 --> 01:19:08,600
Speaker 8: weigh all of it in its totality and get a

1401
01:19:08,640 --> 01:19:11,559
Speaker 8: deal done. My only thing about all of this, guys,

1402
01:19:12,000 --> 01:19:14,320
Speaker 8: is it could have been handled better. In my opinion,

1403
01:19:14,640 --> 01:19:17,000
Speaker 8: I think a lot of people can understand the merits

1404
01:19:17,040 --> 01:19:19,400
Speaker 8: of the trade and why it happened. I just don't

1405
01:19:19,479 --> 01:19:22,559
Speaker 8: think it should have or needed to get as messy

1406
01:19:22,560 --> 01:19:22,960
Speaker 8: as it did.

1407
01:19:23,000 --> 01:19:23,880
Speaker 9: And I'll just leave it at that.

1408
01:19:26,280 --> 01:19:30,000
Speaker 1: Jane, fantastic reporting throughout this saga. We really appreciate it.

1409
01:19:30,000 --> 01:19:32,200
Speaker 1: And yes, you will still be on the insiders regularly

1410
01:19:32,320 --> 01:19:34,960
Speaker 1: for all the fallout that comes from this trade and

1411
01:19:35,000 --> 01:19:37,960
Speaker 1: everything else throughout the course of this Cowboys season. The

1412
01:19:37,960 --> 01:19:42,519
Speaker 1: Packers also have made the announcement Micah Parsons headed to

1413
01:19:42,720 --> 01:19:45,599
Speaker 1: Green Bay where they're listening to them as a defensive

1414
01:19:45,600 --> 01:19:48,960
Speaker 1: lineman right there. But he will pretty much do everything.

1415
01:19:49,120 --> 01:19:53,639
Speaker 1: Ian One last thought, I.

1416
01:19:53,560 --> 01:19:54,920
Speaker 5: Don't know what we're going to do with the rest

1417
01:19:54,920 --> 01:19:57,000
Speaker 5: of the time. What are we going to talk about

1418
01:19:57,040 --> 01:19:59,080
Speaker 5: on ev Is there anything to talk about?

1419
01:19:59,320 --> 01:20:02,480
Speaker 1: Is the season's starting soon? Yes, we go football.

1420
01:20:02,920 --> 01:20:05,960
Speaker 6: It's starting one week from right now, there'll be real

1421
01:20:06,040 --> 01:20:16,000
Speaker 1: Live football, just not involving microparsons, still like Sunday Pipe