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Speaker 1: This is One Bill's Live, presented by Kalida Health.

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Speaker 2: All Right, fresh off the draft, Chris Brown, Steve Tasker

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Speaker 2: with you, kicking off another week of One Bill's Live

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Speaker 2: here on a Monday, and we are chock full of reaction, review, grating,

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Speaker 2: and whatever else you might have in mind on the

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Speaker 2: Bill's twenty twenty three draft class, which numbers just six players,

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Speaker 2: but some jocking around, some moving around. On Day three,

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Speaker 2: three trades in all, all of which were down the

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Speaker 2: board by GM. Brandon Bean added two sixth round draft

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Speaker 2: picks to the twenty twenty four draft and currently holds

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Speaker 2: nine picks, with an anticipated compensatory coming Buffalo's way next spring.

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Speaker 2: They could have ten picks in the twenty twenty four draft,

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Speaker 2: but we're focused on the twenty twenty three draft and

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Speaker 2: we will be doing that here now. We'll also be

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Speaker 2: doing it with the general manager himself, Brandon Bean, stopping

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Speaker 2: by in about fifteen.

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Speaker 3: To twenty minutes.

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Speaker 2: So we look forward to that conversation, so stay tuned

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Speaker 2: for that. And I don't know, Steve, I just I

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Speaker 2: think that while there are some Bills fans out there

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Speaker 2: that may not fully embrace what happened over the course

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Speaker 2: of the weekend, and I think we can all definitively

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Speaker 2: say the offense is in a much better place than

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Speaker 2: they were before this weekend, at least as far as

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Speaker 2: I'm concerned.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I like, you know, Dalton Kincaid. I've heard it

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Speaker 1: from a couple of different sources that are into this.

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Speaker 1: There's there's people who think he's the best pass catcher

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Speaker 1: in this draft, regardless of position, of any kid in

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Speaker 1: the class. This guy catches the ball better. And you

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Speaker 1: watch his highlights, you can see it. The guy makes

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Speaker 1: contested catches, red zone catches, sideline catches, high points the

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Speaker 1: ball really well. He runs really well, So he's going

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Speaker 1: to be a weapon and runs good routes, the whole,

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Speaker 1: the whole thing. He's not a big earth grader in

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Speaker 1: the run game. He's he's I don't know if he's

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Speaker 1: he's not a liability in the run game, but he's

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Speaker 1: certainly not really good at it. But you don't and

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Speaker 1: I heard somebody say that, Yeah, you don't ask a

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Speaker 1: sports car to tow your boat. They let him do

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Speaker 1: what he does.

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Speaker 3: That was Doug Ferrara, who was ye Jeremy this morning.

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Speaker 1: So yeah, I'm I'm I'm very happy with the King

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Speaker 1: Kid pick. It was a really good and they had

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Speaker 1: their pick of all the tight ends and they chose him.

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Speaker 1: So I agree with it totally. The kid can play,

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Speaker 1: and we knew he'd get a good guy. No Cyrus Torrens.

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Speaker 1: I'm shocked he was there at fifty nine. Really good player.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, we surmised the reason he lasted that long is

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Speaker 2: because in essence, he's a guard only, yes, and so

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Speaker 2: some other players with a little more position flex came

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Speaker 2: off the board in front of him. But you're getting, say,

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Speaker 2: who's gonna be Who's got a really good chance to

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Speaker 2: win the starting job and right guard?

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Speaker 1: And I know this too the Bills fans and maybe

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Speaker 1: the coaching well, not so much the coaching staff or

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Speaker 1: the Bills front office. Bill's fans were a little cool

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Speaker 1: on Spencer Brown and the season he had last year.

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Speaker 1: He came off of back surgery and had an in

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Speaker 1: season injury as well. Last year he was he was

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Speaker 1: dragging around some luggage and didn't play well. It showed.

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Speaker 1: And I think the Bills, through the off season, free

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Speaker 1: agency and this draft, most notably have said have shown

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Speaker 1: a lot of faith in him. Kessenberry's back is a

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Speaker 1: backup tackle. Alec Anderson's back in the same role he

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Speaker 1: they do have some real tangible faith in what Spencer

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Speaker 1: Brown's going to bring to the table this year. They

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Speaker 1: didn't bring in really any competition for him at all.

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Speaker 2: Let's not forget Tommy Doyle is coming back from ACL

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Speaker 2: knee surgery. So I mean there's a guy that was

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Speaker 2: a fifth round draft choice of this football team also

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Speaker 2: and did get time on the field as a rookie

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Speaker 3: You know, overload situations, that kind of thing.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, he caught the touchdown pass that kind of thing.

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Speaker 3: Right in the playoff game against Patriots.

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Speaker 2: So with respect to ken Caid Steve, this is the

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Speaker 2: way I view it. A lot of Bills fans felt

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Speaker 2: that a number two receiver was needed for this offense.

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Speaker 2: I would argue that they got that.

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Speaker 3: In kin Kaid.

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Speaker 2: First of all, you're looking at those canoes for feet there.

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Speaker 2: The kids got like size fourteen shoes. He's got ten

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Speaker 1: He's one of those guys.

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Speaker 2: He's got four career drops in his college career four.

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Speaker 2: I really think that for a team that some perceived

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Speaker 1: I think one of the things too, is ma Bill's

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Speaker 1: more so than any other team. Well, Bill's playing against

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Speaker 1: the Chiefs all the time, and in the AFC, you

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Speaker 1: got to, you know, go look at Travis Kelcey. Once

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Speaker 1: a year, at least usually twice a year. You're thinking, man,

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Speaker 1: that that gives us problems, that is that are hard

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Speaker 1: play him like a corner with a corner? Do you

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Speaker 1: play him with a safety? There's no way you can

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Speaker 1: guard him with a linebacker. A Travis Kelcey. This kid

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Speaker 1: matchup problem for defense. You've got to put a guy

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Speaker 3: He's six three and a half.

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Speaker 1: He's a problem. And I think the Bills know the

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Speaker 1: kind of problem he presents because they're in the AFC

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Speaker 1: and they got to face these guys. So they said, listen,

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Speaker 1: he catches the ball. This isn't like Darnell Washington, the

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Speaker 1: And from what they faced with other teams and having

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Speaker 1: I think they love the problems that they're going to

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Speaker 2: Problems, right And just to kind of show you what

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Speaker 2: what that affords you as an evaluator is a more

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Speaker 3: If he's running everything under the sun.

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Speaker 2: Even if your offense only specializes in a certain variety

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Speaker 1: Of them right. And it was interesting because you watch

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Speaker 1: You got to turn the tape on, go to the

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Speaker 1: back and find out where he was lined up, you know,

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Speaker 1: that's him. It's not it's like never him. He's like, oh,

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Speaker 1: a good, really good pick. We knew coming in that

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Speaker 1: one right after the other four picks.

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Speaker 3: That was four.

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Speaker 2: After because Smith and Jigbas started the run of twenty

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Speaker 1: Twenty twenty one, twenty two, and twenty three, all four

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Speaker 2: The only time we discussed Kinkaid and some of the

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Speaker 2: other top tight ends was at the combine with Brandon Bean.

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Speaker 2: We raised the question to him because I said to him,

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Speaker 2: I said, look where you're sitting at twenty seven, there's

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Speaker 2: a pretty good chance you're not going to get the

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Speaker 2: pick of the literate receiver. So in a class of

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Speaker 2: And he kind of, you know, he gave us the

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Speaker 3: But I think that's just what he did.

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Speaker 2: The receiver value clearly was not there, and so he

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Speaker 2: pivoted and got the best tight end in the draft,

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Speaker 2: maybe the best pass catcher.

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Speaker 4: In the draft.

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Speaker 2: I mean, four drops Steve in five years. I mean,

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Speaker 2: you're talking about a guy that got targeted almost four

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Speaker 1: And I'll see he's got four drops. And I know

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Speaker 1: this when you go down and look at me, go

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Speaker 1: down skim his highlights at Utah, you're always going to

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Speaker 1: get the best plays. There's play after play after play

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Speaker 1: where he's going up high between two guys or with

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Speaker 1: guy grabs the ball, and that's you know, for me.

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Speaker 1: I don't know if anybody else believe he thinks the

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Speaker 1: same way. That was a problem last year the Bills.

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Speaker 1: They dropped too many passes, their drops in their turnovers

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Speaker 1: their control, the turnovers and the drops. You know, I

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Speaker 1: don't think that fell on deaf ears. I think they're saying,

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Speaker 1: give me a guy who catches it and catches it really,

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Speaker 2: Eight catches at twenty five yards or more last year,

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Speaker 2: one of three tight ends in the FBS with sixteen

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Speaker 2: or more forced mistackles. I mean there is run after

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Speaker 2: have ranked low over the years too.

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Speaker 3: You and I have talked.

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Speaker 2: About this on the air, and we think part of

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Speaker 2: that is because Josh is a put it on you

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Speaker 2: He's not a quarterback that necessarily leads guys into space

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Speaker 3: Much, so that's part of it.

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Speaker 2: I think this guy's to help in that area too,

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Speaker 1: The problem with going twelve and thirteen personnel is it's

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Speaker 2: And I thought Brandon kind of phrased it perfectly. I

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Speaker 2: You know, if you thought, if you out there as

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Speaker 2: To paint the picture, you know, we talked about how

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Speaker 3: So and the Bills arguably got the best of the bunch.

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Speaker 3: So that's good. We're phone lines are open.

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Speaker 2: We will be talking with Brandon Bean here soon, but

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Speaker 2: know what your thoughts are on the Bills three draft class.

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Speaker 2: What's your biggest takeaway from the draft as a whole?

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Speaker 2: Any and anything is on the table for you. At

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Speaker 2: eight o three zero five fifty two fifty Mark and

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Speaker 3: What do you got for his? Mark?

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Speaker 5: Hey, Chris, say Steve. I'll give you my opinion and

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Speaker 5: I'm being a little too negative. I'm not a person

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Speaker 5: shows you why Brandon Bean is so good at what

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Speaker 5: I'm not a real big Dorsey guy, yet give him

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Speaker 5: But that's one of my problems. Hopefully it isn't. But

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Speaker 5: And I understand this kid has the ability to get downfield,

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Speaker 6: Thanks guys, all.

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Speaker 3: Right, Thanks Mark?

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Speaker 1: All right?

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Speaker 3: Mark, want to take that, Steve, Uh Yeah.

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Speaker 1: I the development of the passing game, I'll say this,

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Speaker 1: It's never I don't think it's proper to blame any

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Speaker 3: And I would argue that cold easily.

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Speaker 2: Part of that's Josh's decision making, and part of that's

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Speaker 3: What do you got first?

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Speaker 7: Kevin, Hey, guys, how you doing? Thanks for taking my call. Sure,

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Speaker 7: I love the Titan. I think he's awesome. He reminds

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Speaker 7: The only thing I questioned and I'm worried about. I've

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Speaker 7: just that's the one I taught to different people, and

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I get it. I do get it, Kevin, And

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Speaker 3: And he's not nearly the athlete that Kinka.

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Speaker 1: I don't see Kinka. Yeah, I do not see that

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Speaker 1: comparison Bavaro with kinkaidas pulking guy. Bavaro was a big, thick, gritty,

438
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Speaker 1: down in the dirt tight end. Kinkaid is the other

439
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Speaker 1: end of that spectrum to me. But still, if you

440
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Speaker 1: get a guy who is as means as much to

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Speaker 1: your team as Bavarro meant to that Giants team, yeah

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Speaker 1: you'll take it right.

443
00:23:53,560 --> 00:23:57,040
Speaker 2: Drew Sanders was on the board in round two when

444
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Speaker 2: the Bills were on the clock. He ultimately goes sixty

445
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Speaker 2: seventh over to the Denver Broncos. So I mean, yeah,

446
00:24:04,440 --> 00:24:08,040
Speaker 2: you can make an argument for it. Sure you know

447
00:24:08,160 --> 00:24:09,800
Speaker 2: what the Bills thought of him. I don't know, and

448
00:24:10,000 --> 00:24:11,760
Speaker 2: I will probably never know where they had him on

449
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Speaker 2: their board. But you know, the Campbell did go a

450
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Speaker 2: lot earlier than anticipated, and I think it was an

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Speaker 2: example of how wide ranging the grades were on players.

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Speaker 3: The vast majority of draftnicks had.

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Speaker 2: Him as you know, a mid to late forties pick,

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Speaker 2: you know, somewhere in the second round, and he ultimately

455
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Speaker 2: goes eighteenth overall. And that's what we heard from people

456
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Speaker 2: with their ear of the ground talking to personnel executives

457
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Speaker 2: there are going to be some prospects that teams would

458
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Speaker 2: take it forty five that another team might take a fifteen.

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Speaker 3: Jack Campbell was the poster child for that sentiment.

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Speaker 1: That's right. I'm there's no telling. It could be despite

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Speaker 1: the important and the nature of how Tremaine Edmonds was

462
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Speaker 1: acquired by this team and how high he was taken,

463
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Speaker 1: it might be that they didn't want to invest that

464
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Speaker 1: in a position that wasn't gonna help where they wanted

465
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Speaker 1: help either premium position, as you can say, but you

466
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Speaker 1: can say, you know, the guy they took, Osyrus Torrens

467
00:25:17,840 --> 00:25:21,359
Speaker 1: isn't a premium position playing guard, but it's on the

468
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Speaker 1: side of the ball they were gonna bolster this year

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Speaker 1: that they were going to concentrate on and the way

470
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Speaker 1: the league is going, and you saw it. You can

471
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Speaker 1: see it in the draft prospects list. There was like

472
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Speaker 1: two guys playing inside linebacker in college football this last

473
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Speaker 1: year that were a six ' four above way two

474
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Speaker 1: forty or more. Everybody is a small, fast athlete, and

475
00:25:46,320 --> 00:25:48,760
Speaker 1: it's getting more and more prevalent that that's gonna be

476
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Speaker 1: what happens to the entire back end of a defense

477
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Speaker 1: and the second level of a defense. They're all gonna

478
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Speaker 1: be athletes who can play corner, who can play safety,

479
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Speaker 1: who can play linebacker. And corners are getting big bigger,

480
00:26:00,520 --> 00:26:03,760
Speaker 1: safety is getting bigger. Linebackers are actually getting smaller. They're

481
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Speaker 1: all going to be the same guy.

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Speaker 3: They have to cover more.

483
00:26:05,560 --> 00:26:07,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, they're going to be the same guy out there.

484
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Speaker 1: So I think that's where I'm oversimplifying, but that's where

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Speaker 1: it's headed.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, let's go to Dave and Florida next, Dave, what

487
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Speaker 2: do you got for a here on One Bill's Live.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, how you guys are doing today?

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Speaker 1: Good?

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Speaker 3: Dave?

491
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Speaker 4: All right, listen, I'm back calling.

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Speaker 8: The draft was great? Okay, Buffalo, did you what they did? Kincade?

493
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Speaker 4: I think this guy's gonna be great. But my bitch

494
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Speaker 4: is the.

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Speaker 8: Commentators that we're on stage there. I know Kansas City

496
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Speaker 8: was highlighted every time they draft somebody, but they were

497
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Speaker 8: with the Eagles. They were with the Jets because of

498
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Speaker 8: Aaron Rodgers, and I got to see one clip of

499
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Speaker 8: Kincaid and after that they just were giggling on the

500
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Speaker 8: stage with each other when their picks her in, And

501
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Speaker 8: you know, I think that sucks. Okay, but you guys

502
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Speaker 8: have a great damn gold Bills and we're going to take.

503
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Speaker 4: Them out for that bullshit.

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Speaker 3: Thank you, Okay, Dave. Thanks, Let's uh, let's keep an

505
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Speaker 3: eye on the lane.

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Speaker 1: Please keep a lid on your passion.

507
00:27:04,080 --> 00:27:04,320
Speaker 3: Yeah.

508
00:27:04,760 --> 00:27:07,159
Speaker 2: Look, I'll be the first to tell you I like

509
00:27:07,240 --> 00:27:09,720
Speaker 2: him to go old school because it's an important moment

510
00:27:09,800 --> 00:27:12,359
Speaker 2: for the kids that are actually getting drafted. So just

511
00:27:12,440 --> 00:27:15,440
Speaker 2: play it straight down the middle and you know, make

512
00:27:15,480 --> 00:27:19,199
Speaker 2: the announcement, say the kid's name, move on, because it's

513
00:27:19,280 --> 00:27:22,399
Speaker 2: their moment, not yours. You know what I mean, Like,

514
00:27:23,119 --> 00:27:26,040
Speaker 2: there's a part of me that says, okay, you know

515
00:27:26,119 --> 00:27:28,560
Speaker 2: you got a fan up there announcing a pick. That's great,

516
00:27:28,680 --> 00:27:33,159
Speaker 2: that's fine. But you know he got these offshoot commentaries

517
00:27:34,200 --> 00:27:37,360
Speaker 2: and it's just like, here's I mean, it's no, it's

518
00:27:37,400 --> 00:27:40,960
Speaker 2: no Ed mull and Iirow from last year to pretty

519
00:27:41,000 --> 00:27:43,159
Speaker 2: much get the hook and pull them off this thing.

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Speaker 1: Move yeah. But here's the thing. I yeah, I d

521
00:27:46,400 --> 00:27:50,119
Speaker 1: Marin Arrow from last year. But I'll say this, and

522
00:27:50,200 --> 00:27:52,639
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna excuse it. I get it too. You know,

523
00:27:52,760 --> 00:27:54,840
Speaker 1: you didn't see any You don't hear anything about the

524
00:27:54,880 --> 00:27:57,600
Speaker 1: Buffalo Bills. You don't hear anything about the Jacksonville Jaguars,

525
00:27:57,640 --> 00:28:00,800
Speaker 1: the Indianapolis Colts were in and out Denver, didn't you know,

526
00:28:00,920 --> 00:28:03,119
Speaker 1: I mean some of these teams. You never hear anything

527
00:28:03,119 --> 00:28:08,119
Speaker 1: about the Chargers, you rarely get any of extra stuff

528
00:28:08,160 --> 00:28:11,520
Speaker 1: from them. But you get into Philly, Dallas, the Jets,

529
00:28:11,640 --> 00:28:14,840
Speaker 1: the Giants, and now Kansas City and Kansas City of

530
00:28:14,920 --> 00:28:17,400
Speaker 1: course because it's in that city and they're the champions.

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Speaker 1: You get down that list. There's a list of about

532
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Speaker 1: eight teams that they wanted to focus on now. And

533
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Speaker 1: here's why. One they can prepare for it. They know

534
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Speaker 1: they're going to get pulled big numbers from great, big

535
00:28:31,280 --> 00:28:35,879
Speaker 1: television markets and that's what's really thereafter I get it too,

536
00:28:36,400 --> 00:28:38,160
Speaker 1: you know, they yuck it up. They show that, you know,

537
00:28:38,320 --> 00:28:40,040
Speaker 1: dalton Kin Kid. By the time they get to Buffalo

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00:28:40,120 --> 00:28:43,840
Speaker 1: at twenty five, even with the trade up, they're kind

539
00:28:43,840 --> 00:28:46,040
Speaker 1: of done with the evening. It's eleven fifteen at night,

540
00:28:46,880 --> 00:28:49,560
Speaker 1: so as far as the broadcast goes. That's why you

541
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Speaker 1: get to the situation where you're at. It's about the

542
00:28:52,400 --> 00:28:55,080
Speaker 1: city the draft is in. It's about the big television

543
00:28:55,160 --> 00:28:58,160
Speaker 1: market teams like New York and of course the Jets

544
00:28:58,200 --> 00:29:01,640
Speaker 1: played right into it with the Aaron Rodge. Everybody else

545
00:29:01,720 --> 00:29:06,200
Speaker 1: is an afterthought. They're trying to make it interesting for

546
00:29:06,400 --> 00:29:11,560
Speaker 1: like four hours, and it's a tough job. So I

547
00:29:11,680 --> 00:29:14,160
Speaker 1: get it. It's not for everybody. And if your team's

548
00:29:14,240 --> 00:29:19,080
Speaker 1: not featured prominently, you're not going to get any attention

549
00:29:19,480 --> 00:29:22,440
Speaker 1: on the broadcast. It's a long broadcast, and they've got

550
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Speaker 1: to prepare stuff in advance in case the thing gets boring,

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Speaker 1: and they prepare stuff for big television markets. That's kind

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Speaker 1: of the way it goes. I feel for you, Dave,

553
00:29:33,320 --> 00:29:37,520
Speaker 1: you're right, but that's the way it's going to be,

554
00:29:37,640 --> 00:29:38,920
Speaker 1: not only this year. It's the way it's going to

555
00:29:38,960 --> 00:29:41,160
Speaker 1: be in Detroit next year. And that's the way it

556
00:29:41,320 --> 00:29:43,680
Speaker 1: was in Chicago. That's the way it was in Philly,

557
00:29:43,880 --> 00:29:46,920
Speaker 1: in Cleveland. That's just where it is. That's the way

558
00:29:46,920 --> 00:29:48,720
Speaker 1: it is, and you got to know what you're signing

559
00:29:48,840 --> 00:29:49,000
Speaker 1: up for.

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Speaker 2: We were amiss not to mention earlier that the Bills

561
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Speaker 2: also have a new veteran running back on the roster,

562
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Speaker 2: Latavius Murray, who signed his contract today. He was in

563
00:29:58,600 --> 00:30:00,880
Speaker 2: a couple of weeks ago for a workout out and

564
00:30:01,160 --> 00:30:03,440
Speaker 2: they signed him. As you know, the Bills did not

565
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Speaker 2: draft a running back at all over the course of

566
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Speaker 2: the weekend, not that they really needed, you know, it

567
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Speaker 2: wasn't like a pressing matter.

568
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Speaker 3: But Latavius Murray is on board.

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Speaker 2: We'll discuss what that edition means when we return with

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Speaker 2: more of your phone calls as well. Here on One

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Speaker 2: Pills Live, presented by Colida Health, it's Buffalo Bills Radio.

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Speaker 3: All right, welcome back to One Bill's Live. Chris Brown,

573
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Speaker 3: Steve Tasker, and look who slid in during the break.

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Speaker 2: It's Bill's general manager Brandon Being joining us after a

575
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Speaker 2: very busy weekend. And apparently you don't like to take

576
00:30:48,080 --> 00:30:49,880
Speaker 2: any time off because you just signed a running back

577
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Speaker 2: this morning. So how you doing all right?

578
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Speaker 9: Yeah, we're doing good. We're doing good.

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Speaker 6: That was actually done while we were still drafting. Okay,

580
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Speaker 6: it was, uh, you know, I reached out to his

581
00:31:03,120 --> 00:31:06,920
Speaker 6: agent and when it was on Saturday, when I was like, listen,

582
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Speaker 6: there's still some backs I can draft, I said, but

583
00:31:10,040 --> 00:31:13,600
Speaker 6: I could use some picks elsewhere, some different positions if

584
00:31:13,760 --> 00:31:16,120
Speaker 6: if you'll go ahead and do this deal, I won't

585
00:31:16,200 --> 00:31:17,000
Speaker 6: draft a running back.

586
00:31:17,120 --> 00:31:19,080
Speaker 2: So okay, So you did that so you'd know you

587
00:31:19,120 --> 00:31:21,400
Speaker 2: wouldn't have to draft one yes, with any of the

588
00:31:21,440 --> 00:31:22,720
Speaker 2: picks you had left at your disposal.

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Speaker 3: Okay, that's an interesting way. Have you ever done that before?

590
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Speaker 10: I don't think I've done it on the clock.

591
00:31:28,280 --> 00:31:31,600
Speaker 6: I've had conversations where we said, if we don't draft one,

592
00:31:31,800 --> 00:31:33,400
Speaker 6: is this the parameters of the deal.

593
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Speaker 10: But this was like, tell me we have a deal

594
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Speaker 10: and we do, then I'm not going to draft it

595
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Speaker 10: back today.

596
00:31:41,440 --> 00:31:44,040
Speaker 3: I'm gonna just sign very proactive.

597
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Speaker 2: I like that.

598
00:31:45,320 --> 00:31:48,680
Speaker 6: Just we only had so many picks, and so it

599
00:31:48,880 --> 00:31:51,760
Speaker 6: was instead of taking you know, a back down there

600
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Speaker 6: towards the bottom, let's just, uh, let's take Latavious. He

601
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Speaker 6: brings great leadership and his his film, quite candidly, was

602
00:31:59,400 --> 00:32:02,200
Speaker 6: better last year than it was the year before. I

603
00:32:02,280 --> 00:32:05,360
Speaker 6: had talked to him last season after we had signed

604
00:32:05,440 --> 00:32:06,920
Speaker 6: Duke Johnson, I was just like, man, there's gonna be

605
00:32:06,960 --> 00:32:10,240
Speaker 6: a logjam here. And I wasn't sure, you know, he's

606
00:32:10,680 --> 00:32:12,920
Speaker 6: he's thirty two, thirty three. I wasn't sure, if you know,

607
00:32:13,000 --> 00:32:15,240
Speaker 6: he was about to go off the cliff. And so

608
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Speaker 6: we brought him in a few weeks ago, went through

609
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Speaker 6: the whole thing, and he just said he went through

610
00:32:19,040 --> 00:32:22,120
Speaker 6: a different training regiment, got himself in a different condition

611
00:32:22,400 --> 00:32:24,640
Speaker 6: and felt last year better than he had felt in

612
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Speaker 6: probably three or four years.

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Speaker 2: What do you feel he has skill set wise that

614
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Speaker 2: prompted you to or drew you to him to add

615
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Speaker 2: to the group.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, he's a he's a big man. He's a big back.

617
00:32:34,720 --> 00:32:37,480
Speaker 6: He's a tall long he's not just a low center

618
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Speaker 6: of grad's. He runs with a you know, a big

619
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Speaker 6: forward lean. He's got good endstincts and vision and feel.

620
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Speaker 6: And I'm telling you when Denver hand him the ball

621
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Speaker 6: last year, he generally, you know, got two, three, four

622
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Speaker 6: yards and you know how many times do we end

623
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Speaker 6: up in third and one, fourth and one? Maybe we're

624
00:32:53,560 --> 00:32:56,920
Speaker 6: quarterback sneaking it, maybe it's something else. This would be

625
00:32:56,920 --> 00:32:58,240
Speaker 6: a pretty good option to handle ball to.

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: He's a little Adrian Peterson type guy, right.

628
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Speaker 4: Yea.

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Speaker 6: Right, Yeah, he's a big he runs upright, but he

630
00:33:05,480 --> 00:33:07,600
Speaker 6: runs big. He knows how, he knows the game. And

631
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Speaker 6: I tell you, like I told him, I was like,

632
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Speaker 6: why did you what made you look better last year

633
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Speaker 6: than what I saw the year before? So excited to

634
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Speaker 6: Adam to our group. He's a big time pro leader.

635
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Speaker 6: He's going to be great for James and Nahim and

636
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Speaker 6: and and Damien as kind of that big better mentor.

637
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Speaker 2: Okay, so let's begin with the draft class, and we'll

638
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Speaker 2: start obviously at the top with Kincaid. You made two

639
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Speaker 2: player references Thursday night, and I want to put this

640
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Speaker 2: in proper context so as not to put too much

641
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Speaker 2: on Kinkaid, but you you mentioned that there are elements

642
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Speaker 2: of Kincaid's game that resemble what Cole did in space

643
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Speaker 2: when he was here, you know, leveraging defenses and stuff

644
00:33:51,400 --> 00:33:54,160
Speaker 2: like that. And then you mentioned run after catch skills

645
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Speaker 2: for Kincaid kind of mimic what Kelsey does at that

646
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Speaker 2: position to some degree, those elements. We're not saying he's

647
00:34:01,400 --> 00:34:03,880
Speaker 2: gonna be Travis Kills or anything like that, but are

648
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Speaker 2: those like the two most attractive things that drew you to,

649
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Speaker 2: you know, valuing him where you did and going.

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Speaker 1: Up to get it for that man?

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Speaker 10: Yeah, I mean I think he's he's a guy that

652
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Speaker 10: can works the middle of the field for you.

653
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Speaker 9: He played that f tight end flex him out. He's

654
00:34:17,760 --> 00:34:18,320
Speaker 9: a good to me.

655
00:34:18,400 --> 00:34:20,680
Speaker 6: He's a good offset from what we already have in Dawson,

656
00:34:20,680 --> 00:34:23,160
Speaker 6: who plays more in line than than flexed out. And

657
00:34:23,640 --> 00:34:25,959
Speaker 6: what I was just trying to say, is this gives

658
00:34:25,960 --> 00:34:29,400
Speaker 6: you another outlet? You know how many times they're bringing

659
00:34:29,520 --> 00:34:33,600
Speaker 6: pressure zero blitz or you know they're they're they they're

660
00:34:33,600 --> 00:34:36,080
Speaker 6: bringing more than we can block. And Josh Wuald spit

661
00:34:36,200 --> 00:34:39,359
Speaker 6: that ball out during Cole's time, so he's not going

662
00:34:39,440 --> 00:34:42,880
Speaker 6: to run out there like Cole. Doesn't have the elite

663
00:34:42,960 --> 00:34:45,759
Speaker 6: separation quicks, but he does have good separation quicks. Not

664
00:34:45,960 --> 00:34:48,440
Speaker 6: at Cole's level, but Cole's you know, five foot eight

665
00:34:48,719 --> 00:34:51,800
Speaker 6: at lower to the ground, but good hands, good feel.

666
00:34:52,280 --> 00:34:54,920
Speaker 6: Some guys run themselves into coverage. They just don't have

667
00:34:55,120 --> 00:34:57,719
Speaker 6: that feel of where the hole and zone is. This

668
00:34:57,880 --> 00:35:00,879
Speaker 6: guy has a natural feel you see over and over.

669
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Speaker 6: That's what I was referring to.

670
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Speaker 10: And then yeah, he's he provides some rackability.

671
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Speaker 9: I'm not going to compare him to Kelsey.

672
00:35:07,160 --> 00:35:08,960
Speaker 6: I never that didn't come out of my mouth to

673
00:35:09,000 --> 00:35:13,239
Speaker 6: say Kelsey, that guy is a unicorn as good a

674
00:35:13,320 --> 00:35:15,440
Speaker 6: tight ends I've ever seen. But he does have what

675
00:35:15,520 --> 00:35:18,439
Speaker 6: I would say is above average run after catch, which

676
00:35:18,480 --> 00:35:20,600
Speaker 6: some tight ends just catch it and they're going straight down.

677
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Speaker 1: And one of the other things about him, you watch him,

678
00:35:22,880 --> 00:35:25,040
Speaker 1: you know, just even if you go on and watch

679
00:35:25,080 --> 00:35:28,400
Speaker 1: his highlights. The guy wins contested balls, a lot of

680
00:35:28,480 --> 00:35:31,800
Speaker 1: great hands, He catches everything. And Brownie was saying he

681
00:35:31,840 --> 00:35:34,080
Speaker 1: had a couple of hundred targets and he had like

682
00:35:34,160 --> 00:35:36,719
Speaker 1: four drops, and you know that was an issue here

683
00:35:36,800 --> 00:35:39,160
Speaker 1: last year, and I know that probably is. It's not

684
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Speaker 1: because we did this. We're going to do this in

685
00:35:41,400 --> 00:35:43,200
Speaker 1: the draft, but this is a guy that just doesn't

686
00:35:43,239 --> 00:35:45,239
Speaker 1: drop the football, and no matter where they put it,

687
00:35:45,320 --> 00:35:46,680
Speaker 1: he gives you a chance to come down with it.

688
00:35:46,880 --> 00:35:50,040
Speaker 6: Yeah, he's contested balls, really good hands, as good a

689
00:35:50,080 --> 00:35:52,640
Speaker 6: hands as anybody we saw in the draft. And you

690
00:35:52,800 --> 00:35:54,440
Speaker 6: love that because you're right, we did have some some

691
00:35:54,560 --> 00:35:57,000
Speaker 6: drops at moments last year and and you.

692
00:35:57,040 --> 00:35:58,719
Speaker 9: Know we want to we want to improve that as

693
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Speaker 9: a team.

694
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Speaker 6: And I'm sure certain guys want to say they want

695
00:36:01,200 --> 00:36:02,880
Speaker 6: to have, you know, a better drop rate, you know,

696
00:36:02,960 --> 00:36:05,200
Speaker 6: this year in twenty twenty three. So now he'll be

697
00:36:06,080 --> 00:36:07,719
Speaker 6: he'll be a great weapon that we can use in

698
00:36:07,840 --> 00:36:10,279
Speaker 6: various you know, former fashions, you know, doors, he can

699
00:36:10,640 --> 00:36:12,600
Speaker 6: run behind the line of scrimmage. He's not gonna be

700
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Speaker 6: that what I was trying to see, not gonna be

701
00:36:14,239 --> 00:36:16,920
Speaker 6: that traditional in line wide blocking, you know, kind of

702
00:36:16,960 --> 00:36:18,400
Speaker 6: tyr Osyrus.

703
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Speaker 2: I'm sure you hope's a player that can help you

704
00:36:20,800 --> 00:36:22,600
Speaker 2: in pass protection and in the run game?

705
00:36:23,440 --> 00:36:26,640
Speaker 3: In which area if he wins a spot, do you

706
00:36:26,719 --> 00:36:27,680
Speaker 3: think he helps.

707
00:36:27,440 --> 00:36:28,240
Speaker 1: You in sooner?

708
00:36:29,200 --> 00:36:32,280
Speaker 6: Probably pass, you know, I just think he's really stout.

709
00:36:33,280 --> 00:36:35,640
Speaker 6: You're you're not gonna run down his cylinder. He's three

710
00:36:35,680 --> 00:36:39,160
Speaker 6: hundred and thirty five pounds. He can anchor. He's got

711
00:36:39,560 --> 00:36:42,640
Speaker 6: size seventeen shoes like he's just he can anchor in

712
00:36:42,719 --> 00:36:44,759
Speaker 6: the ground. You're gonna have to work his edges, but

713
00:36:44,880 --> 00:36:48,160
Speaker 6: what help you know, guys that are heavy sometimes they

714
00:36:48,200 --> 00:36:50,799
Speaker 6: get worked on their edges. The thing that helps him

715
00:36:51,040 --> 00:36:53,319
Speaker 6: is he's got really long arms, and so that helps

716
00:36:53,400 --> 00:36:55,640
Speaker 6: him reach these guys when they do work his edge,

717
00:36:56,040 --> 00:36:57,960
Speaker 6: and it's it's a matter of just holding it long enough.

718
00:36:58,080 --> 00:36:59,920
Speaker 9: He's you know, he's just it was mentioned the other

719
00:37:00,200 --> 00:37:01,120
Speaker 9: he's been around.

720
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Speaker 6: A quarterback that's been mobile and having to you know,

721
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Speaker 6: sustain those blocks and uh, stay on guys and and such.

722
00:37:07,560 --> 00:37:10,279
Speaker 10: But we we like him in both. He moves guys

723
00:37:10,320 --> 00:37:11,040
Speaker 10: in the run game too.

724
00:37:11,040 --> 00:37:13,919
Speaker 6: It's not that he can't do that, but being able

725
00:37:13,960 --> 00:37:16,200
Speaker 6: to set a firm pocket for Josh to be able

726
00:37:16,200 --> 00:37:18,080
Speaker 6: to step up is really helpful.

727
00:37:18,160 --> 00:37:21,360
Speaker 1: Yeah, he's got like a ninety nine percentile wingspan, so

728
00:37:21,440 --> 00:37:23,759
Speaker 1: the guy can reach across the line of scrimmage. You guys, right,

729
00:37:23,800 --> 00:37:26,399
Speaker 1: I mean he's and plus not for he's got those

730
00:37:26,480 --> 00:37:29,160
Speaker 1: huge feet. He's also flat footed and he think, well, guys,

731
00:37:29,200 --> 00:37:32,760
Speaker 1: he's not. But when he on film, when he sets

732
00:37:32,840 --> 00:37:36,360
Speaker 1: his feet and gets his base going, it's almost like

733
00:37:36,440 --> 00:37:38,280
Speaker 1: he's got roots in the ground. I mean, you can't

734
00:37:38,560 --> 00:37:41,360
Speaker 1: make the you can't make you haven't seen anybody. And

735
00:37:41,400 --> 00:37:44,240
Speaker 1: it doesn't matter who he was playing, Georgia, Clemson, Tennessee,

736
00:37:44,320 --> 00:37:47,239
Speaker 1: all these teams, they couldn't move him when he got

737
00:37:47,320 --> 00:37:49,360
Speaker 1: when he got planned. I mean that's he's really a

738
00:37:49,440 --> 00:37:51,160
Speaker 1: solid base in there.

739
00:37:51,360 --> 00:37:52,239
Speaker 9: Yeah, and he is.

740
00:37:52,360 --> 00:37:54,160
Speaker 6: He's got you know, really good grip strength when he

741
00:37:54,200 --> 00:37:56,399
Speaker 6: gets his hands on you, when he you know, if

742
00:37:56,440 --> 00:37:58,560
Speaker 6: he jumps sets here, when he locks you down, he's

743
00:37:58,640 --> 00:37:59,920
Speaker 6: just uh, he's a big man.

744
00:38:00,280 --> 00:38:03,200
Speaker 9: And that he uses that to his advantage very well.

745
00:38:03,600 --> 00:38:06,120
Speaker 2: Saturday night, you were saying that you're leaving the door

746
00:38:06,200 --> 00:38:10,880
Speaker 2: open for Dorian to potentially compete for middle linebacker.

747
00:38:12,000 --> 00:38:14,719
Speaker 3: And and I'm not I think I have this right.

748
00:38:14,800 --> 00:38:16,960
Speaker 2: You were basically saying we got to see how he

749
00:38:17,040 --> 00:38:20,160
Speaker 2: picks up the system to determine how long he'll remain

750
00:38:20,440 --> 00:38:22,120
Speaker 2: a part of that competition, because that's a lot to

751
00:38:22,160 --> 00:38:24,600
Speaker 2: take on for a rookie who's trying to learn one,

752
00:38:24,719 --> 00:38:28,960
Speaker 2: possibly two spots. So it's not a question of physically

753
00:38:29,000 --> 00:38:31,840
Speaker 2: whether he has the tools. This is strictly a learning curve.

754
00:38:32,120 --> 00:38:35,200
Speaker 10: Thing that you're going to be monitoring, right, Yeah, spot on, Chris,

755
00:38:35,320 --> 00:38:36,720
Speaker 10: It's uh, that's exact.

756
00:38:36,800 --> 00:38:38,560
Speaker 9: Physically, he's exactly.

757
00:38:38,239 --> 00:38:38,839
Speaker 1: What we want.

758
00:38:39,840 --> 00:38:43,560
Speaker 6: And he's got long arms, he's cut up top. You know,

759
00:38:43,640 --> 00:38:45,719
Speaker 6: the word undersized was getting used. I don't know if

760
00:38:45,760 --> 00:38:48,239
Speaker 6: i'd call him undersized. He's he's undersized if you compare

761
00:38:48,280 --> 00:38:51,799
Speaker 6: him to Tremaine, but almost everybody, Yeah, but that's that's

762
00:38:51,880 --> 00:38:52,840
Speaker 6: not a fair comparison.

763
00:38:53,120 --> 00:38:55,480
Speaker 10: Yeah, I think it's it's the same thing.

764
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Speaker 6: Like our roster is in a different place than it

765
00:38:58,040 --> 00:39:00,680
Speaker 6: was when we drafted Tremaine, and so I say all

766
00:39:00,760 --> 00:39:05,000
Speaker 6: that that, and he's coming from an even simpler system

767
00:39:06,080 --> 00:39:09,200
Speaker 6: of defense than what Tremaine was coming from from Virginia Tech.

768
00:39:09,280 --> 00:39:11,640
Speaker 6: So what I was saying the other night is we

769
00:39:11,680 --> 00:39:14,040
Speaker 6: don't want to overwhelm him if we can teach him

770
00:39:14,040 --> 00:39:16,640
Speaker 6: both spots we will, but part of that maybe we

771
00:39:16,719 --> 00:39:18,680
Speaker 6: get into training camp and if we feel like it's

772
00:39:18,719 --> 00:39:20,839
Speaker 6: slowing him down and he can't play, then maybe we'll

773
00:39:20,960 --> 00:39:24,040
Speaker 6: this year just do one spot. But this guy has

774
00:39:24,120 --> 00:39:26,320
Speaker 6: the skill set to play both once he gets the

775
00:39:26,360 --> 00:39:27,120
Speaker 6: whole defense right.

776
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Speaker 1: He's a six one two thirty guy. When he says

777
00:39:29,320 --> 00:39:32,800
Speaker 1: six one, two thirties heavy, he's he's got like, you know,

778
00:39:32,960 --> 00:39:35,640
Speaker 1: point zero one percent body fat. I mean, he's all muscle,

779
00:39:35,719 --> 00:39:37,799
Speaker 1: he's got a and what I noticed too, he's really

780
00:39:37,880 --> 00:39:41,439
Speaker 1: high motor. Yeah, the guy's got a really fast gear set.

781
00:39:41,480 --> 00:39:44,000
Speaker 1: I mean the ball snapped and he's on it.

782
00:39:44,280 --> 00:39:46,239
Speaker 9: He's a run and chase like he is.

783
00:39:46,440 --> 00:39:49,920
Speaker 6: He is very athletic like and and again that's why

784
00:39:49,960 --> 00:39:52,160
Speaker 6: a lot of people you don't a lot of times

785
00:39:52,200 --> 00:39:54,880
Speaker 6: you see the less athletic guy playing inside because you

786
00:39:54,920 --> 00:39:57,520
Speaker 6: want to make sure you're your most athletic player can

787
00:39:57,640 --> 00:39:59,279
Speaker 6: match up with backs and tight ends.

788
00:39:59,640 --> 00:40:01,920
Speaker 9: Hence Matt Maulana, who's really good.

789
00:40:02,000 --> 00:40:04,799
Speaker 6: But if we can, you know, if at some point

790
00:40:04,880 --> 00:40:06,920
Speaker 6: down the line, we get this guy where he can

791
00:40:07,120 --> 00:40:09,520
Speaker 6: command the defense, know everything, it's just a lot, you know,

792
00:40:09,800 --> 00:40:12,520
Speaker 6: it's not as big as from a quarterback standpoint, but

793
00:40:12,600 --> 00:40:14,640
Speaker 6: it is the quarterback position of the defense.

794
00:40:14,680 --> 00:40:15,600
Speaker 9: You've got to be able to not.

795
00:40:15,680 --> 00:40:17,959
Speaker 6: Only know it yourself, you got to know what everyone

796
00:40:18,000 --> 00:40:19,840
Speaker 6: else is doing to be able to make checks and calls.

797
00:40:19,880 --> 00:40:22,680
Speaker 6: So that's where I just want us to be patient

798
00:40:22,840 --> 00:40:24,920
Speaker 6: with him and make sure we don't put him out

799
00:40:24,920 --> 00:40:25,719
Speaker 6: there before he's ready.

800
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Speaker 2: Talking with Bill's Jim Brandon being about the twenty twenty

801
00:40:28,360 --> 00:40:32,720
Speaker 2: three Bills draft class, knowing you look for these answers,

802
00:40:32,760 --> 00:40:34,719
Speaker 2: I wanted to ask you about this because I've read

803
00:40:34,760 --> 00:40:37,000
Speaker 2: in more than one place there are a lot of

804
00:40:37,080 --> 00:40:39,640
Speaker 2: people who you know, report on the draft, cover the

805
00:40:39,760 --> 00:40:43,200
Speaker 2: draft that said Justin Shorter could be a better pro

806
00:40:43,480 --> 00:40:47,000
Speaker 2: than he was a college player. I think most people

807
00:40:47,040 --> 00:40:48,600
Speaker 2: that have read up on him know by now he

808
00:40:48,760 --> 00:40:51,279
Speaker 2: was the number one high school recruit at the wide

809
00:40:51,320 --> 00:40:55,040
Speaker 2: receiver position over guys like Jamar Chase, Jalen Wattle, I mean,

810
00:40:55,200 --> 00:40:58,040
Speaker 2: some big names here and there, but then his college career,

811
00:40:58,680 --> 00:41:01,440
Speaker 2: he doesn't maximize that potential. Knowing the homework you and

812
00:41:01,520 --> 00:41:04,759
Speaker 2: your scouts do, what did you uncover as to why

813
00:41:05,520 --> 00:41:09,000
Speaker 2: that was you know, and why maybe he didn't live

814
00:41:09,120 --> 00:41:11,560
Speaker 2: up to the billing he got coming out of high school.

815
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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean he is.

816
00:41:13,400 --> 00:41:14,640
Speaker 9: He's a good looking dude.

817
00:41:14,800 --> 00:41:17,680
Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean he's six y four plus two hundred

818
00:41:17,680 --> 00:41:18,680
Speaker 6: and thirty pounds.

819
00:41:18,480 --> 00:41:21,840
Speaker 9: Like he looks how you would want to build one.

820
00:41:21,760 --> 00:41:25,160
Speaker 6: Prototypically, and so we just feel like, listen, let's get

821
00:41:25,239 --> 00:41:26,520
Speaker 6: him in there and get it in our system.

822
00:41:26,560 --> 00:41:27,440
Speaker 9: He's a hard worker.

823
00:41:27,520 --> 00:41:29,840
Speaker 6: He's got the DNA. A lot of times the DNA

824
00:41:29,960 --> 00:41:32,279
Speaker 6: tells you is the guy. Is he just fine with

825
00:41:32,360 --> 00:41:34,440
Speaker 6: where he's at or he wants to be good. Part

826
00:41:34,440 --> 00:41:36,120
Speaker 6: of the reason we brought him in for a thirty visit,

827
00:41:36,160 --> 00:41:38,920
Speaker 6: get around and talk to him more and understand what

828
00:41:39,080 --> 00:41:42,440
Speaker 6: happened to Penn State, to transfer to to Florida, what

829
00:41:42,840 --> 00:41:45,239
Speaker 6: went well there, what would he like to improve.

830
00:41:44,960 --> 00:41:46,719
Speaker 10: And so he'd be the first to tell you he

831
00:41:46,760 --> 00:41:49,160
Speaker 10: would like to have had more production, and I'm sure

832
00:41:49,200 --> 00:41:49,440
Speaker 10: he was.

833
00:41:49,520 --> 00:41:50,360
Speaker 9: He would own up to it.

834
00:41:50,960 --> 00:41:53,480
Speaker 6: The other part of him is the special team's piece.

835
00:41:53,520 --> 00:41:55,600
Speaker 6: And you know, when you're talking about in the fifth round,

836
00:41:56,440 --> 00:41:58,920
Speaker 6: how do guys get get a game day Jersey, and

837
00:41:59,080 --> 00:42:02,239
Speaker 6: this guy, you know he is strong on special teams.

838
00:42:02,280 --> 00:42:05,440
Speaker 6: It'll be an easy transition for him there. The biggest

839
00:42:05,480 --> 00:42:07,200
Speaker 6: thing we want to see is continue to develop as

840
00:42:07,200 --> 00:42:10,560
Speaker 6: an outside receiver. And hopefully, you know, when Gabe comes

841
00:42:10,600 --> 00:42:12,560
Speaker 6: out of Steph comes out, you know, hopefully in time

842
00:42:12,640 --> 00:42:14,720
Speaker 6: we can put him out there and feel very comfortable

843
00:42:14,760 --> 00:42:15,799
Speaker 6: that he can man that spot.

844
00:42:15,920 --> 00:42:18,279
Speaker 1: He's also used to working with a quarterback like in

845
00:42:18,440 --> 00:42:20,480
Speaker 1: Anthony Richardson. It's a lot like the guy you've got

846
00:42:20,560 --> 00:42:22,440
Speaker 1: with a big arm and an athlete and one of

847
00:42:22,520 --> 00:42:25,000
Speaker 1: those guys. So that's he got a chance to see

848
00:42:25,040 --> 00:42:27,640
Speaker 1: some film with him with the guy can really heave it.

849
00:42:28,960 --> 00:42:31,800
Speaker 1: That's got to help though, when you at the highest

850
00:42:31,880 --> 00:42:34,560
Speaker 1: level he's playing at Florida, playing against LSU, Clemson, all

851
00:42:34,600 --> 00:42:36,719
Speaker 1: those teams, and getting a chance to see him in

852
00:42:36,800 --> 00:42:40,759
Speaker 1: his physically, I mean, the guy's inn all pro. I mean,

853
00:42:40,800 --> 00:42:42,600
Speaker 1: the guy's got it all physically.

854
00:42:42,280 --> 00:42:45,440
Speaker 9: Right, Yeah, he does. He's a build up speed.

855
00:42:45,520 --> 00:42:48,200
Speaker 6: It's not instant, but he can actually stretch the field

856
00:42:48,280 --> 00:42:50,520
Speaker 6: vertically once he's up and running. You know, he's got

857
00:42:50,600 --> 00:42:52,160
Speaker 6: to beat press coverage. Those are one of the things

858
00:42:52,239 --> 00:42:55,040
Speaker 6: he'll have to work on his continue to prove his releases.

859
00:42:54,600 --> 00:42:57,320
Speaker 9: And things like that. But he can definitely catch a

860
00:42:57,400 --> 00:42:57,920
Speaker 9: live arm.

861
00:42:58,360 --> 00:43:00,800
Speaker 6: What you're talking to, Anthony richards strong arm, just like

862
00:43:00,960 --> 00:43:03,480
Speaker 6: Josh and then it's those off schedule plays that that

863
00:43:03,600 --> 00:43:07,120
Speaker 6: he made. We know Josh thrives on on off schedule place.

864
00:43:07,400 --> 00:43:09,840
Speaker 6: This guy knows how to continue to attack, you know

865
00:43:09,920 --> 00:43:12,560
Speaker 6: the defense, find the holes. And so we'll teach him

866
00:43:12,600 --> 00:43:15,160
Speaker 6: our system. We'll get him up to speed, excited to

867
00:43:15,280 --> 00:43:18,240
Speaker 6: see what we can grow him into in his time.

868
00:43:18,160 --> 00:43:18,720
Speaker 9: Here in Buffalo.

869
00:43:18,840 --> 00:43:20,759
Speaker 1: So, yeah, this may be the off season that's known

870
00:43:20,800 --> 00:43:23,600
Speaker 1: as the off season of the offensive line. You got

871
00:43:23,680 --> 00:43:26,160
Speaker 1: Nick Broker as well. I mean you've you've signed some

872
00:43:26,400 --> 00:43:30,759
Speaker 1: you know, you know the interior offensive lineman. You're a

873
00:43:30,880 --> 00:43:33,200
Speaker 1: neck deep in those guys, now, Yeah, and Nick Broker

874
00:43:33,280 --> 00:43:35,600
Speaker 1: falls right into that six four three h five. He's

875
00:43:35,640 --> 00:43:39,600
Speaker 1: the Kent Whole Award winner from this last year. Give

876
00:43:39,680 --> 00:43:41,560
Speaker 1: us your thoughts on going back to the offensive line.

877
00:43:41,760 --> 00:43:44,560
Speaker 9: Yeah, I mean that is a cool side note about

878
00:43:44,560 --> 00:43:45,319
Speaker 9: the Kent Hole thing.

879
00:43:45,600 --> 00:43:45,719
Speaker 4: Uh.

880
00:43:46,000 --> 00:43:48,440
Speaker 9: You know, that's a great parallel that he ends up here.

881
00:43:49,320 --> 00:43:52,200
Speaker 6: He's he's a guy that what I would say about him.

882
00:43:52,360 --> 00:43:55,920
Speaker 6: He's not the sexiest athlete, but he gets his man blocked.

883
00:43:55,920 --> 00:43:57,800
Speaker 6: He just blocks his and he's and he's not playing

884
00:43:58,440 --> 00:44:00,200
Speaker 6: at a Division two school. He's playing it at Ole

885
00:44:00,280 --> 00:44:03,600
Speaker 6: Miss in the SEC. He's played left tackle. He's played guard.

886
00:44:03,680 --> 00:44:06,120
Speaker 6: He snapped at the Senior Bowl. We find him as

887
00:44:06,120 --> 00:44:08,840
Speaker 6: a versatile piece and he was just too good. I

888
00:44:08,960 --> 00:44:12,759
Speaker 6: honestly was looking elsewhere in the draft, but he was

889
00:44:12,880 --> 00:44:14,839
Speaker 6: clearly at the you know, we got the seventh round.

890
00:44:14,880 --> 00:44:16,760
Speaker 6: It's like we weren't looking to add another old lineman.

891
00:44:17,120 --> 00:44:19,360
Speaker 6: But at some point you just take good football players

892
00:44:19,840 --> 00:44:21,560
Speaker 6: and it'll all work out.

893
00:44:21,680 --> 00:44:24,160
Speaker 2: This might be as deep as you know, no disrespect

894
00:44:24,200 --> 00:44:25,719
Speaker 2: to the guys that came before this crew that you

895
00:44:25,800 --> 00:44:27,400
Speaker 2: got lined up on the roster now, but this might

896
00:44:27,480 --> 00:44:29,440
Speaker 2: be as deep as you've ever been at the guard position.

897
00:44:29,880 --> 00:44:32,839
Speaker 2: With all the free agency signed Buckeer's back, I mean,

898
00:44:32,920 --> 00:44:34,799
Speaker 2: you still have baits as baits, and now you got

899
00:44:34,840 --> 00:44:36,880
Speaker 2: these two kids in the draft. It's like holy cats like.

900
00:44:37,400 --> 00:44:40,600
Speaker 10: You are and David Edwards don't forget about it, David

901
00:44:40,680 --> 00:44:41,640
Speaker 10: Edwards and counter mcgovernment.

902
00:44:41,719 --> 00:44:43,920
Speaker 6: Yeah, so it's people forget because we saw m the

903
00:44:43,960 --> 00:44:46,680
Speaker 6: government that you know about David Edwards.

904
00:44:46,719 --> 00:44:48,320
Speaker 9: He won a Super Bowl as a starter and it

905
00:44:48,360 --> 00:44:49,959
Speaker 9: has played a lot of a lot of games.

906
00:44:50,160 --> 00:44:53,880
Speaker 2: Tall and long corners are things that are attractive to you,

907
00:44:54,480 --> 00:44:57,279
Speaker 2: and this kid would seem to fit that at six ' one.

908
00:44:59,000 --> 00:45:02,120
Speaker 3: What appeal to you besides just the length that you

909
00:45:02,239 --> 00:45:03,080
Speaker 3: guys tend to look for.

910
00:45:03,400 --> 00:45:05,719
Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean he's he's a younger kid, underclassman that

911
00:45:05,840 --> 00:45:09,279
Speaker 6: came out and we just feel like the size, the lenk,

912
00:45:09,360 --> 00:45:12,839
Speaker 6: the DNA come in teaching our defense. He didn't play

913
00:45:12,880 --> 00:45:15,959
Speaker 6: any exact scheme that we play, but again, we felt

914
00:45:16,000 --> 00:45:20,080
Speaker 6: the traits and the character and the person was enough

915
00:45:20,160 --> 00:45:21,840
Speaker 6: to bring him here and give him a shot to

916
00:45:21,880 --> 00:45:22,399
Speaker 6: make our club.

917
00:45:22,560 --> 00:45:25,279
Speaker 1: Yeah, six ' one, just under two hundred pounds. I mean,

918
00:45:25,320 --> 00:45:29,200
Speaker 1: that's it's kind of it's kyri Elam. It's all those Tredavious,

919
00:45:29,239 --> 00:45:31,120
Speaker 1: all those guys. I mean, he's gonna fit right into

920
00:45:31,160 --> 00:45:33,560
Speaker 1: that room and athletically fits pretty well.

921
00:45:33,680 --> 00:45:35,040
Speaker 9: Yeah, he does, he really does.

922
00:45:35,160 --> 00:45:38,080
Speaker 6: He Again, it was a it was a that was

923
00:45:38,160 --> 00:45:41,680
Speaker 6: definitely a position of need as much as anything. We

924
00:45:41,719 --> 00:45:43,360
Speaker 6: got down there after we took Broker and we're like,

925
00:45:43,400 --> 00:45:46,279
Speaker 6: all right, who down here have we? Well, we haven't

926
00:45:46,320 --> 00:45:49,360
Speaker 6: picked a dB, so we were looking at corners and safeties.

927
00:45:48,880 --> 00:45:50,680
Speaker 9: And we just felt this was the best player left.

928
00:45:51,040 --> 00:45:53,400
Speaker 2: I know you said, because I asked you about you know,

929
00:45:53,520 --> 00:45:55,279
Speaker 2: your roster and where you're going to finish out at

930
00:45:55,280 --> 00:45:57,799
Speaker 2: and you said you'll be shy of ninety. Is there

931
00:45:58,280 --> 00:46:01,360
Speaker 2: is that just because you want to leave yourself open

932
00:46:01,480 --> 00:46:05,640
Speaker 2: to add as you move through May, June, maybe even July.

933
00:46:06,080 --> 00:46:09,080
Speaker 3: Is that you just want that flexibility? But yeah, it is.

934
00:46:09,440 --> 00:46:12,160
Speaker 6: You know, to me, you want to get to your

935
00:46:12,239 --> 00:46:15,080
Speaker 6: eighty nine ninety somewhere around eighty eight to nine. We've

936
00:46:15,120 --> 00:46:18,080
Speaker 6: shown up the training camp with eighty eight before. It's

937
00:46:18,160 --> 00:46:19,200
Speaker 6: really making.

938
00:46:18,960 --> 00:46:22,239
Speaker 10: Sure you have the depth at the positions. Okay, are

939
00:46:22,280 --> 00:46:23,880
Speaker 10: any players going to start on pup?

940
00:46:24,120 --> 00:46:24,680
Speaker 1: You know what I mean?

941
00:46:25,000 --> 00:46:27,480
Speaker 9: Von Miller you know may start on pop.

942
00:46:27,560 --> 00:46:30,160
Speaker 6: So making sure we have enough ends. Is Tommy Doyle

943
00:46:30,600 --> 00:46:32,919
Speaker 6: going to be back, you know, to start training camp

944
00:46:33,200 --> 00:46:35,239
Speaker 6: or not? So by the time we get there, I

945
00:46:35,280 --> 00:46:37,640
Speaker 6: got to make sure we have enough guys at every position.

946
00:46:37,840 --> 00:46:40,960
Speaker 6: But there's to me, there's no rush. Let's get because

947
00:46:40,960 --> 00:46:43,040
Speaker 6: what I've been a part of it, and I said,

948
00:46:43,040 --> 00:46:45,400
Speaker 6: if I'm ever running a team where we filled it

949
00:46:45,480 --> 00:46:47,760
Speaker 6: up to ninety right after the draft and then things

950
00:46:47,840 --> 00:46:49,759
Speaker 6: happen and you're already cutting a guy that you never

951
00:46:49,840 --> 00:46:51,640
Speaker 6: gave a look to, and you're calling the agent and

952
00:46:52,160 --> 00:46:54,480
Speaker 6: you're saying, well, it's just a number sing the guys like, well,

953
00:46:54,520 --> 00:46:56,680
Speaker 6: I wouldn't have signed with you after the draft if

954
00:46:56,719 --> 00:46:58,040
Speaker 6: I knew you were going to cut them, So I

955
00:46:58,239 --> 00:47:00,239
Speaker 6: just I always, you know, tell our co which is

956
00:47:00,320 --> 00:47:02,840
Speaker 6: in scouts, like, we don't have to be at ninety

957
00:47:03,200 --> 00:47:06,319
Speaker 6: the minutet the draft ends, like, uh, let's sign good

958
00:47:06,400 --> 00:47:09,120
Speaker 6: players that at a minimum, we think they're gonna be

959
00:47:09,120 --> 00:47:11,680
Speaker 6: a really good practice squad player. Easier to add they

960
00:47:11,760 --> 00:47:14,000
Speaker 6: have to shuffle the deck it is and and and listen,

961
00:47:14,320 --> 00:47:15,560
Speaker 6: there's going to be more players.

962
00:47:15,640 --> 00:47:17,200
Speaker 9: We know that people are going to have gotten.

963
00:47:16,960 --> 00:47:19,520
Speaker 6: Drafted over this weekend and someone's going to say, you

964
00:47:19,600 --> 00:47:21,480
Speaker 6: know what, I can shed three million bucks. I just

965
00:47:21,600 --> 00:47:23,640
Speaker 6: drafted a guy in a third round that can beat

966
00:47:23,680 --> 00:47:26,200
Speaker 6: him out. So we want to keep ourselves open to

967
00:47:27,080 --> 00:47:31,880
Speaker 6: veterans guys that hey, a rookie mini camp comes up,

968
00:47:31,920 --> 00:47:33,840
Speaker 6: and there may be a guy that we've signed guys

969
00:47:33,880 --> 00:47:37,239
Speaker 6: out of there, JaMarcus Ingram last year out of there,

970
00:47:37,560 --> 00:47:40,120
Speaker 6: who's on our roster. Another tall, long corner that we

971
00:47:40,400 --> 00:47:42,279
Speaker 6: like and we want to see this year. So we

972
00:47:42,400 --> 00:47:44,719
Speaker 6: just want to keep spots open and kind of take

973
00:47:44,760 --> 00:47:47,040
Speaker 6: it slowly. When we get to camp, we'll be at

974
00:47:47,080 --> 00:47:48,080
Speaker 6: that eighty nine to ninety.

975
00:47:48,200 --> 00:47:49,920
Speaker 1: Do you get these guys that you're going to sign

976
00:47:50,000 --> 00:47:54,359
Speaker 1: as rookie free agents, Like you know DJ I can't

977
00:47:54,360 --> 00:47:58,120
Speaker 1: remember his last name, Djjjal who you signed today is

978
00:47:58,120 --> 00:47:59,680
Speaker 1: a del Do you get the feeling now if you

979
00:47:59,800 --> 00:48:02,759
Speaker 1: told and maybe some agents and representations you kind of

980
00:48:03,000 --> 00:48:06,920
Speaker 1: do another different player with Like you look, listen, Glex Austin,

981
00:48:06,920 --> 00:48:08,440
Speaker 1: he's your seventh round pick. But you know, look at

982
00:48:08,440 --> 00:48:10,359
Speaker 1: our guy last year, Christian Benford. I mean he's gonna

983
00:48:10,360 --> 00:48:10,799
Speaker 1: get a shot.

984
00:48:10,960 --> 00:48:13,759
Speaker 9: Yeah, now, we we definitely point that's got to go.

985
00:48:13,840 --> 00:48:16,279
Speaker 1: A little bit of ways with these agents who bring

986
00:48:16,360 --> 00:48:19,080
Speaker 1: their kid and say, listen, they give you a shot.

987
00:48:19,960 --> 00:48:24,040
Speaker 6: We we we ran a stat that we gave our

988
00:48:24,160 --> 00:48:28,360
Speaker 6: undrafted rookies more preseason playtime than any team last season,

989
00:48:28,520 --> 00:48:31,440
Speaker 6: and so uh, they're gonna get a chance to showcase

990
00:48:31,480 --> 00:48:31,960
Speaker 6: what they can do.

991
00:48:32,400 --> 00:48:33,960
Speaker 9: We talk about the Levi.

992
00:48:33,960 --> 00:48:37,719
Speaker 6: Wallace's, the cam Lewis's, all these guys that have come

993
00:48:37,800 --> 00:48:42,000
Speaker 6: in and played, Tyrrel Dotson that were undrafted and played.

994
00:48:42,160 --> 00:48:47,560
Speaker 6: And you know, listen, we Quintin Morris like we kept

995
00:48:47,680 --> 00:48:51,080
Speaker 6: him over Oj Howard, who we paid money to. You know,

996
00:48:51,520 --> 00:48:54,200
Speaker 6: that's not a great conversation I got to explain to

997
00:48:54,280 --> 00:48:57,960
Speaker 6: the Pagoula is that that you know, right, I gave

998
00:48:58,080 --> 00:49:00,120
Speaker 6: money to this guy and it didn't work out. The

999
00:49:00,200 --> 00:49:02,440
Speaker 6: undrafted kid we had here all along beat him out.

1000
00:49:02,480 --> 00:49:04,600
Speaker 6: But it's it's best man wins. We don't care where

1001
00:49:04,640 --> 00:49:06,440
Speaker 6: you're drafted, how much your you know how much your

1002
00:49:06,480 --> 00:49:08,880
Speaker 6: salary is and and I think agents know that when

1003
00:49:08,920 --> 00:49:09,839
Speaker 6: they send their players here.

1004
00:49:10,320 --> 00:49:13,000
Speaker 2: Brandon, thanks for coming in. You know you're still doing

1005
00:49:13,040 --> 00:49:15,000
Speaker 2: some shuffling on the roster, so thanks for giving us

1006
00:49:15,040 --> 00:49:15,279
Speaker 2: some time.

1007
00:49:15,320 --> 00:49:15,960
Speaker 1: We appreciate it.

1008
00:49:16,000 --> 00:49:17,719
Speaker 3: Here you got kind of sharing some insight with the

1009
00:49:17,800 --> 00:49:18,319
Speaker 3: fans today.

1010
00:49:18,440 --> 00:49:21,000
Speaker 1: Sneak in a nap this saffronoon. See what you can do.

1011
00:49:21,680 --> 00:49:24,600
Speaker 3: Adrenaline is still flowing here. I believe it. All right,

1012
00:49:24,640 --> 00:49:25,319
Speaker 3: that's Bill's Jam.

1013
00:49:25,400 --> 00:49:27,200
Speaker 2: Brandon Bean joining us here on one Bill's Live. We'll

1014
00:49:27,200 --> 00:49:28,560
Speaker 2: take a break, be back with more of your phone

1015
00:49:28,600 --> 00:49:29,080
Speaker 2: calls next.

1016
00:49:29,440 --> 00:49:30,000
Speaker 3: Stay tuned.

1017
00:49:44,160 --> 00:49:46,200
Speaker 2: All right, welcome back to one of Bill's Live. Chris Brown,

1018
00:49:46,239 --> 00:49:48,600
Speaker 2: Steve Tasker with you. Our thanks to Brandon Bean, who

1019
00:49:48,960 --> 00:49:51,320
Speaker 2: gave us some value of the time to shed some

1020
00:49:51,440 --> 00:49:54,360
Speaker 2: insight on some of the Bills picks in the twenty

1021
00:49:54,400 --> 00:49:56,000
Speaker 2: twenty th Actually we got through all of them there

1022
00:49:56,000 --> 00:49:57,960
Speaker 2: in the twenty twenty three draft class.

1023
00:49:58,120 --> 00:49:59,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, there's only six of.

1024
00:49:59,120 --> 00:50:04,640
Speaker 3: Them, so yeah, and he's still working. But it is interesting.

1025
00:50:04,800 --> 00:50:07,759
Speaker 2: I kinda I asked him the question on Saturday night.

1026
00:50:07,880 --> 00:50:09,920
Speaker 2: I said, you know, you've only got six draft picks.

1027
00:50:09,960 --> 00:50:14,360
Speaker 2: Are you anticipating having a larger undrafted rookie class because

1028
00:50:14,400 --> 00:50:16,160
Speaker 2: of that? You know, you got to fill out the roster.

1029
00:50:16,239 --> 00:50:18,319
Speaker 2: And he's like, well, not necessarily, we may only get

1030
00:50:18,360 --> 00:50:20,960
Speaker 2: to about eighty five. But yeah, he's right to have

1031
00:50:21,040 --> 00:50:23,640
Speaker 2: the undrafted's done and I sign a veteran free agent

1032
00:50:23,719 --> 00:50:25,480
Speaker 2: or two, one of which he's done already in Latvia.

1033
00:50:25,560 --> 00:50:31,680
Speaker 1: It makes some sense. The league is now is when

1034
00:50:31,840 --> 00:50:33,759
Speaker 1: when it was, just before I got into the National

1035
00:50:33,800 --> 00:50:37,480
Speaker 1: Football League forty years ago, there was this thing where

1036
00:50:37,520 --> 00:50:39,880
Speaker 1: they had like one hundred and ten guys in training camps.

1037
00:50:40,480 --> 00:50:43,080
Speaker 1: You know, but training camp back then was six weeks long.

1038
00:50:43,280 --> 00:50:46,120
Speaker 1: He had four preseason games two weeks before their first

1039
00:50:46,200 --> 00:50:48,960
Speaker 1: preseason game, and there was still there was still that

1040
00:50:49,120 --> 00:50:51,760
Speaker 1: thought that guys would come in and get in shape

1041
00:50:51,840 --> 00:50:54,960
Speaker 1: to play. Of course, everything's changed now. These guys are

1042
00:50:55,040 --> 00:50:58,399
Speaker 1: making money enough that they're professional athletes year round. They've

1043
00:50:58,480 --> 00:51:01,200
Speaker 1: got their own personal Price It trainers. They show up

1044
00:51:01,280 --> 00:51:03,520
Speaker 1: and they have off season stuff that going on, that

1045
00:51:03,640 --> 00:51:06,280
Speaker 1: they stay in shape, they throw together, they work out together.

1046
00:51:07,400 --> 00:51:10,160
Speaker 1: It's completely different. And they when I came into the league,

1047
00:51:10,200 --> 00:51:12,320
Speaker 1: it was back now you can only get like ninety

1048
00:51:12,360 --> 00:51:14,800
Speaker 1: guys in. There's nothing that says you got to have

1049
00:51:14,880 --> 00:51:17,560
Speaker 1: ninety guys and max it out. Because particularly it's a

1050
00:51:17,640 --> 00:51:20,279
Speaker 1: team like Buffalo, and you heard him. You want to

1051
00:51:20,280 --> 00:51:22,640
Speaker 1: be able to tell this guy and this agent and

1052
00:51:22,760 --> 00:51:25,399
Speaker 1: this school and make it known that when you get

1053
00:51:25,480 --> 00:51:28,000
Speaker 1: signed by this team, you're gonna have a legitimate shot

1054
00:51:28,040 --> 00:51:30,800
Speaker 1: to make an NFL roster. You're gonna you're not a

1055
00:51:30,920 --> 00:51:34,400
Speaker 1: camp body. You're not gonna come in, take a few reps,

1056
00:51:34,880 --> 00:51:37,719
Speaker 1: get in one preseason game and then get cut. You're

1057
00:51:37,760 --> 00:51:40,600
Speaker 1: gonna get a chance to take some reps, some meaningful

1058
00:51:40,680 --> 00:51:43,520
Speaker 1: reps to further your career. It goes a long way

1059
00:51:43,600 --> 00:51:47,640
Speaker 1: when you're going through these rookie free agent periods and

1060
00:51:47,760 --> 00:51:52,200
Speaker 1: when you draft a guy you know, Dorian Williams and

1061
00:51:52,280 --> 00:51:56,640
Speaker 1: these guys and and you know, forget about Kinkaid, but

1062
00:51:56,880 --> 00:51:59,480
Speaker 1: justin shorter, Nick Broker, all these guys are gonna get

1063
00:51:59,480 --> 00:52:03,319
Speaker 1: a shot at making a team on a very good roster,

1064
00:52:03,440 --> 00:52:06,400
Speaker 1: already on a really good roster, it's not always. It

1065
00:52:06,480 --> 00:52:08,680
Speaker 1: has not always been that way, and it's still not

1066
00:52:08,880 --> 00:52:13,719
Speaker 1: that way everywhere in the league. It's just not And

1067
00:52:14,480 --> 00:52:16,120
Speaker 1: to be able to sit there and say, you know what,

1068
00:52:16,320 --> 00:52:18,000
Speaker 1: this kid's got a chant chance at a guy like

1069
00:52:18,080 --> 00:52:21,000
Speaker 1: Alex Austin. You saw what happened with Christian Benford last year.

1070
00:52:21,080 --> 00:52:23,400
Speaker 1: The guy was a sixth round throwaway pick from an

1071
00:52:23,520 --> 00:52:26,600
Speaker 1: FCS score right, it's a throwaway pick, yeah, okay or whatever.

1072
00:52:26,680 --> 00:52:28,560
Speaker 1: All of a sudden, the guy's starting on opening day

1073
00:52:28,880 --> 00:52:35,879
Speaker 1: and played well. It means something at the second level,

1074
00:52:35,920 --> 00:52:37,920
Speaker 1: at the level where you're doing business.

1075
00:52:38,000 --> 00:52:40,759
Speaker 2: And the stat that he mentioned was really interesting to me.

1076
00:52:41,920 --> 00:52:46,640
Speaker 2: They gave more snaps to undrafted players in the preseason

1077
00:52:46,680 --> 00:52:49,120
Speaker 2: than any other team in football. So even if your

1078
00:52:49,160 --> 00:52:53,800
Speaker 2: guy doesn't make the Bills roster, he's got valuable tape

1079
00:52:54,680 --> 00:52:56,920
Speaker 2: to show to the thirty one other teams if he's

1080
00:52:56,960 --> 00:52:57,719
Speaker 2: looking for a job.

1081
00:52:57,800 --> 00:52:59,600
Speaker 3: If he doesn't make the fifty three here or.

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Speaker 1: The track squad, that's right, it means something. So going

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Speaker 1: a few light on the roster coming into training camp.

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Speaker 1: I love it, I really do, because you know, if

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Speaker 1: something pops up, get him. You got a spot for me.

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Speaker 1: You don't have to, you know, release a guy who

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Speaker 1: you gave your word to before he even gets a

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Speaker 1: chance to take a rat. I just think it's a

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Speaker 1: smart way to go, particularly at this time. Certainly they

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Speaker 1: could go to camp with ninety guys, but they don't

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Speaker 1: need to be there until the day before training camp.

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Speaker 2: Just so you know, with the length of time that

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Speaker 2: we spent with Brandon, our clocks a little out of whack.

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Speaker 3: So we got to take a break here.

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Speaker 2: But when we come back, we will get to your

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Speaker 2: phone calls eight oh three oh five fifty one eight

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Speaker 2: at eight five point fifty two, five fifty the number

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Speaker 2: to get on board. What's your biggest takeaway from the

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Speaker 2: Bills twenty twenty three draft class, Hit us up and

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Speaker 2: let us know next Here on One Bill's Live presented

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Speaker 2: by Collide Health, It's Buffalo Bills Radio, The One.

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Speaker 1: Bills Live presented by Calida Health.

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Speaker 2: Alright, hour number two here on the Monday after the

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Speaker 2: twenty twenty three NFL Draft, the Bills, with a six

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Speaker 2: player haul in all, entered Day three with just two picks,

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Speaker 2: but Brandon being traded down three times. That's the one

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Speaker 2: thing we didn't talk to him about trading back three

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Speaker 2: times on Day three, got to pick back in the

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Speaker 2: seventh to add and also got two sixth round draft

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Speaker 2: choices for next year, which gives them a current total

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Speaker 2: of nine. If they get the compensatory for Tremaine, it

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Speaker 2: will be ten draft choices next year.

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Speaker 3: Pretty intriguing.

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Speaker 2: We do want to get right back to the phones

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Speaker 2: at eight h three h five point fifty one eight

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Speaker 2: eight eight five point fifty two five point fifty to

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Speaker 2: get your thoughts your biggest takeaways from the Bills twenty

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Speaker 2: twenty three draft class. So let us know we do

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Speaker 2: have an open line for you, but we lead off

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Speaker 2: with Ian and Perry.

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Speaker 3: What do you got for us?

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Speaker 1: Ian?

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Speaker 3: You're on one Bills Live.

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Speaker 11: Hey Brownie, what's up?

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Speaker 4: Guys?

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Speaker 11: I have been thinking a lot about the two tight

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Speaker 11: end sets that the Bills could roll out this season,

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Speaker 11: and I think my main takeaway is that there's seeming

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Speaker 11: to be two camps, like we're gonna run the ball

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Speaker 11: a lot more, We're gonna throw to one of the

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Speaker 11: tight ends a lot more, or maybe both, and uh,

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Speaker 11: those people I think are limiting the possibilities.

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Speaker 4: For what the Bill's offense could do with two tight ends.

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Speaker 11: So I propose a third camp. And my theory is

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Speaker 11: that the Bills are trying to attack the too high

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Speaker 11: shell that they get from a lot of defenses. I

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Speaker 11: just did some research online and saw that a common

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Speaker 11: way to attack that is deep corner routes on the

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Speaker 11: draw the safeties and some stuff working the flats. So

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Speaker 11: you do like a high low concept on hind side.

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Speaker 11: And what struck me was that the running back runs

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Speaker 11: the flat and the tight end runs the flat, and

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Speaker 11: so we've got this slot wide receiver concept with Kincaid

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Speaker 11: that everybody's kind of excited about. But I wonder if

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Speaker 11: we're shifting more towards just a different style of offense

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Speaker 11: to compete against the shift in defense that we've seen

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Speaker 11: stop the Bills and the Chiefs.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I think so, And thanks for the call.

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Speaker 2: And there's there are a lot of options at Ken

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Speaker 2: Dorsey's disposal, and I would not dismiss this. Ken Dorsey

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Speaker 2: was the quarterbacks coach in Carolina when the Bills had

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Speaker 2: Jeremy Shaky and Greg Olsen.

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Speaker 1: Not the Bills, the Panthers.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, when he was in Carolina, he was the quarterbacks coach, sorry,

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Speaker 2: when the Panthers had Jeremy Shaky, and Greg Olsen and

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Speaker 2: those who worked pretty harmoniously together and they made a

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Speaker 2: ton of plays in the middle of the field. I'm

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Speaker 2: wondering if he has stuff tucked away in the nether

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Speaker 2: regions of his playbook that he would like to pull

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Speaker 2: out now that he has Kincaid and Knox, who are

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Speaker 2: pretty similar in terms of body types, Shocky comparable to Knox,

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Speaker 2: and obviously Olsen comparable to Kincaid.

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Speaker 3: Might he pull some things out of that archive and

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Speaker 3: incorporate them into this offense. I think that's a distinct possibility.

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Speaker 2: Some of what you described in is certainly an option

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Speaker 2: as well. And even if you do all that and

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Speaker 2: you have a back and Knox running in the flat,

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Speaker 2: now you send Kincaid over the middle. Now, granted you

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Speaker 2: only got five to protect on that, so you got

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Speaker 2: to get it out fast. But that's tough because you

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Speaker 2: can't double everybody. And if the safeties are going to play,

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Speaker 2: you know, shell over the top and roll coverage, you

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Speaker 2: got the middle of the field all to yourself with

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Speaker 2: Kincaid and he's probably going to win there.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, those are all possibilities. I think what you want

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Speaker 1: to do as an NFL offense theoretically is be able

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Speaker 1: to put out a high quality production in any personnel

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Speaker 1: group out of any formation in order to get the

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Speaker 1: right matchup to enhance that production. So I don't think

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Speaker 1: the Bills have been really happy or inclined to go

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Speaker 1: two tight ends with the guys they had on the

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Speaker 1: roster before. That doesn't mean they can't go four wide

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Speaker 1: as well or five wide as well. You want to

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Speaker 1: go be able to go from five wide to thirteen

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Speaker 1: personnel all and everything in between, three tight ends, four

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Speaker 1: tight ends, and overload with an offensive lineman as a

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Speaker 1: tight end. You want to go from that heavy with

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Speaker 1: a full back all the way out to five widespread

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Speaker 1: the field, shotgun and everything in between. And theoretically you

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Speaker 1: want all five of those wide receivers or all five

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Speaker 1: of those tight ends to be able to split out flanker,

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Speaker 1: go to the wide side to the short side. You

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Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. You're not gonna be able to

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Speaker 1: do that because you're not gonna have enough guys that

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Speaker 1: can do those skill sets. But the closer you get

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Speaker 1: to that, the more flexible you are offensively to do

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Speaker 1: anything you can dream up and win the matchup against

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Speaker 1: whatever defense you happen to be playing. So if they

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Speaker 1: if they come out and they got five corners on

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Speaker 1: the field, you want to go out and be able

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Speaker 1: to go either three tight ends and spread the field

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Speaker 1: and match up with a small corner on a big

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Speaker 1: tight end, or go heavy and run it up, run

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Speaker 1: it right over them.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, run it over as Nickel.

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Speaker 1: That's where you want to be as an offense. And

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Speaker 1: I think a guy like Dalton Kincaid along with Knox

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Speaker 1: obviously gives you two big body guys that a defense

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Speaker 1: has to make a decision about. Ye can they win

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Speaker 1: those matchups in whatever way the defense decides to deploy

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Speaker 1: against you, We'll see. But that's the idea. So the

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Speaker 1: Bills aren't gonna go all man, We're now, we're gonna

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Speaker 1: go all this too tight end. They may they're gonna

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Speaker 1: do some of it, maybe more of it, yeah, but

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Speaker 1: they almost. They also might go more five wide too

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Speaker 1: with Hardy and Sherfield and Davis and Diggs and Khalils Shakir.

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Speaker 1: So all of that's got to be on the table.

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Speaker 1: That's where you're at. So yeah, Dalton kin kid fits

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Speaker 1: into there somewhere, and what he comes in and is

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Speaker 1: able to do remains to be seen.

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Speaker 2: Right, And I think it's important to say when we

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Speaker 2: say more twelve personnel, the highest twelve personnel usage teams

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Speaker 2: in the league are only like twenty four percent. It's

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Speaker 2: not the bread and butter of almost any team in

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Speaker 2: the league, maybe with the exception of the Ravens who runs, who.

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Speaker 3: Run it all day long.

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Speaker 2: You know, So when we say more twelve personnel, don't

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Speaker 2: think that that's going to be the main calling card

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Speaker 2: of this offense.

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Speaker 3: It's probably not.

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Speaker 2: It's probably still gonna be eleven personnel and kin Kaid's

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Speaker 2: on the field as the single tight end and then

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Speaker 2: maybe Knoxes and they may be switching in and out.

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Speaker 1: It's the old adage. You get good football players, and

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Speaker 1: you're good football players no matter what the other team does,

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Speaker 1: are going to be good and productive. So you're gonna

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Speaker 1: The reason the Bills are good and play a lot

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Speaker 1: of eleven personnel is because that's the best way to

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Speaker 1: move the football with Josh Allen as the guy pulling

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Speaker 1: the trigger. Now, they may find a way to make

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Speaker 1: Josh Allen even better as a quarterback by putting two

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Speaker 1: tight ends out there and spreading him around, or they

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Speaker 1: may find a better way by getting him a faster guy,

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Speaker 1: and you know, and put Shorter out there. You know,

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Speaker 1: now he you know, justin Shorter's out there now along

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Speaker 1: with Gabe Davis, Steph Diggs and Khalil Shakir. Now he

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Speaker 1: got four guys out there, and he gives you that

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Speaker 1: matchup you like. So all of that's on the table.

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Speaker 1: And teams that run a lot of twelve, like the

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Speaker 1: teams that are at the twenty four percent of the

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Speaker 1: they're the most productive out of that. That's why they

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Speaker 1: run it. And that's what the Bills have got to

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Speaker 1: find they can do.

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Speaker 2: The one question I also wanted to ask ran and

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Speaker 2: we ran out of time. I found it pretty interesting

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Speaker 2: in a draft full of undersized receivers, the two pass

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Speaker 2: catching targets that the Bills add are six three and

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Speaker 2: a half and six four and walk in the door

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Speaker 2: as the second and third tallest receivers in the entire core,

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Speaker 2: after Dawson Knox, who's six ' five. I think that's

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Speaker 2: an accident either.

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Speaker 1: Right and then, and I was we were going through

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Speaker 1: down the list, and I was picking out all every

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Speaker 1: wide receiver prospect that was like six three or Bove

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Speaker 1: sixty four and there there were some of them. They

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Speaker 1: were down the list, but they were there, and they

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Speaker 1: had some traits and they were running four threes, four

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Speaker 1: fours and they were six four two twenty eight. That

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Speaker 1: kind of just like justin shorter is, they were out there,

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Speaker 1: but they had to go down then to get them.

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Speaker 2: And I should mention that Desmond Patman is on this

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Speaker 2: roster and he is six to four as well. But

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Speaker 2: in terms of the regulars that we've seen on the field,

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Speaker 2: those two draft choices that catch passes, they walk in

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Speaker 2: the door of some of the tallest on the roster.

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Speaker 2: Let's get back to the phones, though, and to a

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Speaker 2: person who's been waiting patiently, Sarah and Penfield, what do

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Speaker 2: you got for us?

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Speaker 12: Sarah, Hey, guys, I have to say I thought the

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Speaker 12: draft went really well, especially considering we didn't have the

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Speaker 12: best numbers. It wasn't like we were drafting number one

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Speaker 12: or number two. I was really excited about Kincaid. When

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Speaker 12: I called a couple of weeks ago, I talked about

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Speaker 12: tight ends and I was hoping that seeing that the

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Speaker 12: wide receiver class was not the best, that a good

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Speaker 12: tight end was going to really help us be more

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Speaker 12: versatile in the reception end. I think Shorter is going

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Speaker 12: to help. I'm really excited about this year and I'm

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Speaker 12: looking forward to training camp here in Rochester.

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Speaker 1: All right, yeah you should. There's no reason not to

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Speaker 1: be excited about this team.

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Speaker 3: Hope springs eternal after the draft, doesn't it?

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Speaker 1: Even without that? I told you, even without this draft,

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Speaker 1: this team can win this division with the guys they had,

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Speaker 1: Without Dalton k and Kaid, Nick Broker, Justin Shorter, Dorian Williams,

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Speaker 1: and Osiris Torrens. They can still win the division without

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Speaker 1: any of those guys. That's how good this roster is.

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01:04:17,280 --> 01:04:19,480
Speaker 1: And if Brandon Bean hits a home run on this

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Speaker 1: ross with on this draft, with this draft class, if

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01:04:22,440 --> 01:04:24,960
Speaker 1: Ken Kaid starter and Osiris Torrens is a ten year

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01:04:25,000 --> 01:04:28,080
Speaker 1: starter and all this stuff, and and Justin Shorter becomes

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01:04:28,120 --> 01:04:30,200
Speaker 1: a fixture on the team, even if he's a special

1303
01:04:30,240 --> 01:04:32,680
Speaker 1: teams player. You know, all these guys, Dorian Williams turn

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01:04:33,040 --> 01:04:36,200
Speaker 1: all this stuff. If he does at this drafting at

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01:04:36,240 --> 01:04:40,280
Speaker 1: the bottom of the round with only six picks, that's

1306
01:04:40,320 --> 01:04:43,400
Speaker 1: a masterclass in how to draft. That's a tough call.

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01:04:43,600 --> 01:04:46,400
Speaker 1: That's a tough ask. Six picks is all you get

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01:04:46,720 --> 01:04:48,800
Speaker 1: and you're at the bottom of every round. That's really

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01:04:48,880 --> 01:04:52,800
Speaker 1: difficult to make a really significant contribution to yours team.

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01:04:52,960 --> 01:04:56,000
Speaker 1: But there's every reason I think this. These guys have

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01:04:56,080 --> 01:04:57,720
Speaker 1: got a chance to do that. It's and that'll be

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Speaker 1: pretty cool if you can get it done. Get back

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01:05:00,480 --> 01:05:01,000
Speaker 1: to the phones.

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Speaker 2: Eight oh three, five fifty one, eighty eight, five fifty two,

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01:05:04,360 --> 01:05:06,120
Speaker 2: five fifty Got an open line for you there if

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01:05:06,120 --> 01:05:07,880
Speaker 2: you want to chime in. What's your biggest takeaway from

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01:05:07,920 --> 01:05:10,440
Speaker 2: the Bills twenty twenty three draft class. We go to

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Speaker 2: John and Jamestown next, what do you got for us?

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01:05:12,960 --> 01:05:13,200
Speaker 3: John?

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Speaker 13: Hey, how you doing?

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Speaker 4: Guys?

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01:05:15,800 --> 01:05:19,560
Speaker 13: Thanks for taking my call. You know, I just want

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01:05:19,600 --> 01:05:22,800
Speaker 13: to remind all the Bills fans we only lost three

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01:05:22,840 --> 01:05:25,800
Speaker 13: games last year by a total of eight points. We're

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01:05:25,920 --> 01:05:28,880
Speaker 13: basically eleven points away from being undefeated. And the season

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01:05:28,920 --> 01:05:32,560
Speaker 13: that had more things happened during the season, I think

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01:05:32,760 --> 01:05:36,520
Speaker 13: ever could have happened any team. I think the Brandon

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01:05:36,600 --> 01:05:41,320
Speaker 13: Bean has been an exceptional GM's His draft picks have

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01:05:41,400 --> 01:05:45,760
Speaker 13: been great, everything's been great, you know. Good. Let everybody

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01:05:46,320 --> 01:05:49,360
Speaker 13: in the outside world hop off the Bills bandwagon. Let

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01:05:49,440 --> 01:05:51,960
Speaker 13: him jump off the break, you know, jump to this team.

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01:05:52,040 --> 01:05:53,800
Speaker 13: Jump to that team does seem all of the Jets

1333
01:05:53,880 --> 01:05:56,400
Speaker 13: big deal. They got forty year old quarterback who couldn't

1334
01:05:56,400 --> 01:06:00,880
Speaker 13: beat us last year. Anyhow, we kicked this butt. So

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01:06:01,040 --> 01:06:03,920
Speaker 13: I just want to I want the Bills fans to

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01:06:04,000 --> 01:06:06,520
Speaker 13: be more enthusiastic and upbeat.

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01:06:07,000 --> 01:06:07,680
Speaker 4: This is great.

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01:06:07,760 --> 01:06:09,560
Speaker 13: I've been a Bill's fan forever. I went to the

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01:06:09,640 --> 01:06:11,920
Speaker 13: last game ever War Memoriel, the first game ever at

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01:06:12,000 --> 01:06:16,640
Speaker 13: Richard Adium. You know, I'm you know, in my mid

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01:06:16,680 --> 01:06:19,160
Speaker 13: to late sixties. I'm an older guy, but I've been

1342
01:06:19,200 --> 01:06:21,680
Speaker 13: a Bill's fan forever and went through a lot of years,

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01:06:21,720 --> 01:06:24,440
Speaker 13: a lot of long, bad years, and we've got nothing

1344
01:06:24,480 --> 01:06:26,440
Speaker 13: but good things ahead of us, and I just want

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01:06:26,520 --> 01:06:29,880
Speaker 13: people to turn to that. That's really all I had

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01:06:29,920 --> 01:06:30,200
Speaker 13: to say.

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Speaker 3: All Right, John, thanks for brightening our spirits on this Monday.

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01:06:33,400 --> 01:06:34,240
Speaker 3: Much appreciate it.

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01:06:34,800 --> 01:06:35,240
Speaker 1: He's on it.

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01:06:37,160 --> 01:06:40,280
Speaker 2: You're you're basically speaking Steve's language because he said it

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01:06:40,520 --> 01:06:43,240
Speaker 2: over and over and over again, and you essentially parroted

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01:06:43,280 --> 01:06:44,680
Speaker 2: it so it doesn't need repeating.

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01:06:44,920 --> 01:06:47,880
Speaker 1: I love the fact that the Jets are the darling

1354
01:06:47,920 --> 01:06:50,800
Speaker 1: of the August Oh my gosh, awesome. They can have

1355
01:06:51,000 --> 01:06:52,880
Speaker 1: them with that. We were there last year.

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01:06:53,000 --> 01:06:54,560
Speaker 3: Yeah, and we you know, you saw what it got.

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01:06:54,600 --> 01:06:56,240
Speaker 3: It just got them all this.

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01:06:56,440 --> 01:06:59,360
Speaker 1: Listen, Bills lived up to it. Don't kid yourself. Thirteen

1359
01:06:59,400 --> 01:07:07,160
Speaker 1: and three and without two or three catastrophic occurrences to

1360
01:07:07,240 --> 01:07:12,200
Speaker 1: their off season and during season, they sail through the

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01:07:12,400 --> 01:07:17,560
Speaker 1: entire conference. So and they're gonna they're gonna bring those

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01:07:17,560 --> 01:07:19,760
Speaker 1: guys back. They had more injuries last year than they'd

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01:07:19,800 --> 01:07:23,800
Speaker 1: had in the previous two years combined, let alone what

1364
01:07:23,920 --> 01:07:27,280
Speaker 1: happened with DeMar You can say the tragedy that struck

1365
01:07:27,360 --> 01:07:32,280
Speaker 1: Dawson Knox and his family, uh kim Pagoula, the May

1366
01:07:32,400 --> 01:07:38,520
Speaker 1: fourteenth mass shooting thing after thinking two catastrophic snow still

1367
01:07:39,320 --> 01:07:45,080
Speaker 1: relocated game, relocated home game. Yeah, so yeah, and and

1368
01:07:45,600 --> 01:07:47,840
Speaker 1: and all the naysayers out there going now you know,

1369
01:07:47,920 --> 01:07:50,520
Speaker 1: they're pooh pooing it because you're making excuses. Listen, those

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01:07:50,520 --> 01:07:53,600
Speaker 1: are reasons, not excuses, and they're for real. I'm as

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01:07:53,640 --> 01:07:56,280
Speaker 1: a player, some of the stuff they went through this

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01:07:56,440 --> 01:08:00,360
Speaker 1: last offseason were was you know, I don't know how

1373
01:08:00,400 --> 01:08:04,920
Speaker 1: you get your mind around it. And yet they persevered

1374
01:08:05,440 --> 01:08:07,680
Speaker 1: and they lost, Like you said, in the regular season,

1375
01:08:07,720 --> 01:08:09,920
Speaker 1: they lost three games by a total of eight points,

1376
01:08:10,520 --> 01:08:12,840
Speaker 1: and two of them. There was one game last year

1377
01:08:12,840 --> 01:08:14,840
Speaker 1: where I thought, yeah, okay, I'll take the loss on that,

1378
01:08:15,520 --> 01:08:17,160
Speaker 1: and it was the Jet game in New York and

1379
01:08:17,280 --> 01:08:21,800
Speaker 1: met Life. Other than that, those other two games were

1380
01:08:21,920 --> 01:08:24,719
Speaker 1: absolutely slipped through the fingers of the team the better team,

1381
01:08:25,479 --> 01:08:33,160
Speaker 1: and you know, so there you have it. I'm very

1382
01:08:33,439 --> 01:08:37,000
Speaker 1: I'm still really positive and enthusiastic about the chances of

1383
01:08:37,040 --> 01:08:39,160
Speaker 1: this team has it coming in next this coming year

1384
01:08:39,439 --> 01:08:43,360
Speaker 1: and playing extremely well. They're in a really let's face it,

1385
01:08:43,400 --> 01:08:46,879
Speaker 1: they are in the conference in the NFL. The AFC

1386
01:08:47,160 --> 01:08:51,000
Speaker 1: is a gauntlet. It is an absolute it's an absolute

1387
01:08:51,200 --> 01:08:55,040
Speaker 1: dog fight, a dog fight, and the NFC this year

1388
01:08:55,200 --> 01:09:00,040
Speaker 1: is the relegation league in European football. Philly's gonna, I

1389
01:09:00,080 --> 01:09:03,800
Speaker 1: don't there's nobody over there. There's just nobody over there

1390
01:09:03,920 --> 01:09:07,240
Speaker 1: that that would even be a favorite in an AFC division.

1391
01:09:08,560 --> 01:09:11,040
Speaker 1: Philly might. I don't know, maybe Philly would be the

1392
01:09:11,160 --> 01:09:14,880
Speaker 1: favorite in the AFC South. That's it.

1393
01:09:17,200 --> 01:09:17,680
Speaker 4: That is it.

1394
01:09:18,120 --> 01:09:25,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, So yeah, it's and you'll see it. The Bills

1395
01:09:25,040 --> 01:09:26,840
Speaker 1: are gonna come out and they're gonna play extremely well,

1396
01:09:26,840 --> 01:09:28,479
Speaker 1: and they're gonna be a really tough team. Being they're not.

1397
01:09:28,680 --> 01:09:30,400
Speaker 1: I'm not saying they're gonna go undefeated and all of

1398
01:09:30,439 --> 01:09:33,200
Speaker 1: that stuff. No, they're in a really tough race. And

1399
01:09:33,320 --> 01:09:37,080
Speaker 1: the Jets and the Dolphins continue to play extremely well

1400
01:09:37,120 --> 01:09:38,759
Speaker 1: and do a lot of good things in the offseason,

1401
01:09:38,840 --> 01:09:40,439
Speaker 1: they're gonna they're both those teams are gonna be a

1402
01:09:40,479 --> 01:09:43,880
Speaker 1: handful this year. Patriots. The Patriots are always a handful

1403
01:09:43,960 --> 01:09:47,880
Speaker 1: for everybody for whatever reasons. But you know, so this

1404
01:09:48,040 --> 01:09:50,040
Speaker 1: is it's it's not gonna be easy. But let me

1405
01:09:50,080 --> 01:09:52,479
Speaker 1: tell you something. For as tough as it is and

1406
01:09:52,720 --> 01:09:55,479
Speaker 1: and for as good as these other teams sound, the

1407
01:09:55,560 --> 01:09:58,479
Speaker 1: Bills are on their schedule and those teams aren't looking

1408
01:09:58,560 --> 01:10:02,160
Speaker 1: past that game. That tells you all you need to know.

1409
01:10:02,560 --> 01:10:05,040
Speaker 1: The Bills are going to be a tough out, a

1410
01:10:05,200 --> 01:10:09,040
Speaker 1: really tough out. And they got better this offseason, they

1411
01:10:09,120 --> 01:10:12,920
Speaker 1: really did. They got better and they're getting better just

1412
01:10:12,960 --> 01:10:17,719
Speaker 1: by getting healthy. So I'm I'm I'm with you, John

1413
01:10:17,880 --> 01:10:21,400
Speaker 1: in Racha in Jamestown. I'm there's a lot to love

1414
01:10:21,439 --> 01:10:22,120
Speaker 1: about this team.

1415
01:10:22,840 --> 01:10:25,679
Speaker 3: Let's go back to the phones and to Leroy and Buffalo.

1416
01:10:25,760 --> 01:10:26,400
Speaker 3: What do you got first?

1417
01:10:26,439 --> 01:10:30,320
Speaker 4: Leroy, Hello guy, Nice to talk to you guys again.

1418
01:10:30,560 --> 01:10:31,120
Speaker 1: Good to have you.

1419
01:10:31,439 --> 01:10:32,240
Speaker 4: I love you guys.

1420
01:10:32,320 --> 01:10:33,479
Speaker 14: I love the radio show.

1421
01:10:33,680 --> 01:10:36,040
Speaker 3: Oh thanks, Okay.

1422
01:10:36,160 --> 01:10:39,479
Speaker 14: I was a little concern going into the draft and

1423
01:10:39,600 --> 01:10:42,960
Speaker 14: then we kicked the tight end. It wasn't what I

1424
01:10:43,120 --> 01:10:47,320
Speaker 14: wanted because after we lost to the Cincinnati Vengos, I

1425
01:10:47,400 --> 01:10:51,439
Speaker 14: felt we needed to beef up our offensive defensive live. Yeah,

1426
01:10:51,880 --> 01:10:55,320
Speaker 14: but when you look at the draft, which we really

1427
01:10:55,360 --> 01:10:58,120
Speaker 14: didn't need a lot of teats. I love what Brandy

1428
01:10:58,160 --> 01:11:01,559
Speaker 14: Bean did. He brought some big young guy did yeah,

1429
01:11:01,600 --> 01:11:03,840
Speaker 14: playing the office, the line, and what he did in

1430
01:11:03,880 --> 01:11:06,840
Speaker 14: the free agency. And so I'm pretty pleased with the

1431
01:11:06,920 --> 01:11:10,360
Speaker 14: draft because I was a little worry about Cincinnati playing

1432
01:11:10,400 --> 01:11:14,160
Speaker 14: them again just in Miami moving up. I'm not worried

1433
01:11:14,160 --> 01:11:15,960
Speaker 14: about Aaron Rodgers because we already played him.

1434
01:11:15,960 --> 01:11:16,160
Speaker 4: Well.

1435
01:11:16,360 --> 01:11:20,240
Speaker 14: Yeah, thank you all for listening to me to talk

1436
01:11:20,840 --> 01:11:24,120
Speaker 14: and Steve Taster, I still love your family. My son

1437
01:11:24,320 --> 01:11:26,840
Speaker 14: is just in love to play at Saint Francis.

1438
01:11:27,000 --> 01:11:28,040
Speaker 7: With your son.

1439
01:11:28,320 --> 01:11:29,280
Speaker 4: Yeah, I love you guys.

1440
01:11:29,520 --> 01:11:30,920
Speaker 14: I'm going to hang up and listen to it all right.

1441
01:11:31,240 --> 01:11:32,200
Speaker 3: Thanks, but I hope you're doing well.

1442
01:11:32,200 --> 01:11:33,760
Speaker 1: It's good to hear from Thanks for calling.

1443
01:11:33,880 --> 01:11:34,439
Speaker 3: Appreciate that.

1444
01:11:34,640 --> 01:11:38,120
Speaker 2: I mean I would say this Brandon Bean and I

1445
01:11:38,160 --> 01:11:40,240
Speaker 2: didn't press him on this here, but he did state

1446
01:11:40,360 --> 01:11:43,320
Speaker 2: this on Saturday night when the draft was over. He

1447
01:11:43,600 --> 01:11:47,840
Speaker 2: was disappointed that he couldn't get a defensive tackle in

1448
01:11:48,000 --> 01:11:51,400
Speaker 2: the draft, and he said, sometimes it's just the way

1449
01:11:51,439 --> 01:11:54,560
Speaker 2: the board falls. It doesn't fall your way, and the

1450
01:11:54,680 --> 01:11:57,960
Speaker 2: value just isn't right to take a position that you

1451
01:11:58,080 --> 01:12:02,720
Speaker 2: may want. And on Day three sometimes gms will gravitate

1452
01:12:03,160 --> 01:12:06,160
Speaker 2: ever so slightly more to positional need because of a

1453
01:12:06,240 --> 01:12:08,519
Speaker 2: lot of their grades on their board come Day three

1454
01:12:09,120 --> 01:12:12,280
Speaker 2: are in pretty close proximity. You have clusters of players

1455
01:12:12,320 --> 01:12:15,280
Speaker 2: at different positions, but they're graded in the same general area,

1456
01:12:15,800 --> 01:12:17,800
Speaker 2: and you say, all right, well we could use a

1457
01:12:17,920 --> 01:12:20,160
Speaker 2: DT here, let's drift towards need a little bit. But

1458
01:12:20,240 --> 01:12:23,160
Speaker 2: where they were picking in the rounds, it just never

1459
01:12:23,360 --> 01:12:26,080
Speaker 2: fell right where the value was there for them for

1460
01:12:26,200 --> 01:12:28,920
Speaker 2: a defensive tackle. So after the draft on Saturday night,

1461
01:12:29,479 --> 01:12:31,880
Speaker 2: when he was speaking to the media, he said, we

1462
01:12:32,040 --> 01:12:35,040
Speaker 2: may look to add a veteran or two, knowing they

1463
01:12:35,080 --> 01:12:39,519
Speaker 2: came up empty at the defensive tackle position. So we

1464
01:12:39,680 --> 01:12:42,040
Speaker 2: know he's still working on the roster, so let's wait

1465
01:12:42,080 --> 01:12:44,000
Speaker 2: and see and see if something comes down the pike

1466
01:12:44,080 --> 01:12:48,960
Speaker 2: on that front. They have four veteran guys already on

1467
01:12:49,040 --> 01:12:52,760
Speaker 2: the roster. They also have Brandon Bryant, who was up

1468
01:12:52,800 --> 01:12:55,280
Speaker 2: and down off the practice squad the last couple of years,

1469
01:12:55,320 --> 01:12:58,800
Speaker 2: and you know, as a capable fifth guy in case

1470
01:12:58,840 --> 01:13:02,320
Speaker 2: of injury. And they still have ilianku here, who I

1471
01:13:02,479 --> 01:13:05,920
Speaker 2: know is not a sexy player because he's a stand

1472
01:13:06,000 --> 01:13:09,960
Speaker 2: in there and grind kind of guy. They have people here.

1473
01:13:10,760 --> 01:13:14,120
Speaker 2: Does he decide to try to upgrade even further with

1474
01:13:14,240 --> 01:13:16,200
Speaker 2: free agents that might be out there on the market,

1475
01:13:16,360 --> 01:13:16,800
Speaker 2: We'll see.

1476
01:13:17,680 --> 01:13:19,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, let's not forget. They're in pretty good spot the

1477
01:13:19,720 --> 01:13:21,439
Speaker 1: way it is with their roster where it's at, And

1478
01:13:21,960 --> 01:13:25,439
Speaker 1: certainly one of the reasons we spoke about defensive tackle

1479
01:13:25,800 --> 01:13:27,200
Speaker 1: in the lead up to the drafts because all the

1480
01:13:27,280 --> 01:13:30,760
Speaker 1: guys are going to be out next year after aspiring contracts.

1481
01:13:30,840 --> 01:13:32,559
Speaker 1: They're all every last one of them is on an

1482
01:13:32,600 --> 01:13:35,920
Speaker 1: expiring contract, so they got to do something. They're gonna

1483
01:13:35,920 --> 01:13:39,840
Speaker 1: be bereft of bodies, let alone talent. So it's always

1484
01:13:39,880 --> 01:13:42,960
Speaker 1: a concern for that long term, but for the short

1485
01:13:43,080 --> 01:13:47,920
Speaker 1: term and for the here and now, they're right. They're

1486
01:13:48,400 --> 01:13:49,920
Speaker 1: as good as you know, and they're in as good

1487
01:13:49,920 --> 01:13:51,360
Speaker 1: as spot as they were last year when they were

1488
01:13:51,360 --> 01:13:54,120
Speaker 1: the number two overall defense in the league. So they'll

1489
01:13:54,200 --> 01:13:57,160
Speaker 1: be fine, but they need to stay healthy, no question

1490
01:13:57,200 --> 01:13:59,240
Speaker 1: about it. I mean that that's one of the things

1491
01:13:59,280 --> 01:14:01,439
Speaker 1: that we kind of had gotten to the point where

1492
01:14:01,439 --> 01:14:04,040
Speaker 1: we were taken for granted every year, and then last

1493
01:14:04,120 --> 01:14:06,240
Speaker 1: year when they got nipped by the injury bug all

1494
01:14:06,280 --> 01:14:10,880
Speaker 1: over the roster with some pretty prominent players. Yeah, it

1495
01:14:11,000 --> 01:14:12,920
Speaker 1: kind of for the first time showed us what maybe

1496
01:14:12,960 --> 01:14:13,960
Speaker 1: some other teams had been through.

1497
01:14:15,200 --> 01:14:17,760
Speaker 2: Break time for us here more of your phone calls

1498
01:14:17,800 --> 01:14:20,240
Speaker 2: when we return your biggest takeaways from the Bills twenty

1499
01:14:20,280 --> 01:14:23,000
Speaker 2: twenty three draft class. If we have time too, We're

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01:14:23,000 --> 01:14:24,640
Speaker 2: going to go around the NFL.

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01:14:25,080 --> 01:14:27,560
Speaker 3: Fifth year option deadline.

1502
01:14:28,120 --> 01:14:31,080
Speaker 2: Who is pulling the trigger on exercising a fifth year

1503
01:14:31,080 --> 01:14:33,800
Speaker 2: option on their former first round pick and who is not.

1504
01:14:34,080 --> 01:14:36,439
Speaker 2: We'll tell you when we return here on One Bill's

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01:14:36,479 --> 01:14:37,680
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01:14:37,680 --> 01:14:43,120
Speaker 3: It's Buffalo Bills Radio. Back on One Bill's Live. Chris

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01:14:43,200 --> 01:14:45,560
Speaker 3: Brown Steve task with you on a Monday with the

1508
01:14:45,760 --> 01:14:49,200
Speaker 3: draft class fully in tow all.

1509
01:14:49,240 --> 01:14:52,680
Speaker 2: Six players coming on One Bill's Drive and just a

1510
01:14:52,720 --> 01:14:57,960
Speaker 2: week or so from now for rookie mini camp. So

1511
01:14:58,080 --> 01:15:00,320
Speaker 2: that'll be exciting when these guys get on site. I mean,

1512
01:15:00,479 --> 01:15:03,599
Speaker 2: Osirius Torrance and Dalton kin Kate already got a run

1513
01:15:03,640 --> 01:15:06,679
Speaker 2: of the place. They were here over the weekend. Steve,

1514
01:15:06,720 --> 01:15:09,720
Speaker 2: I got a chance to shake Osirius Torrance's hand. My

1515
01:15:09,880 --> 01:15:14,559
Speaker 2: hand disappeared. Yeah, his fingers pretty much went halfway up

1516
01:15:14,600 --> 01:15:20,720
Speaker 2: my forearm. He's got meat hooks for hands. When he

1517
01:15:20,800 --> 01:15:23,559
Speaker 2: puts his hands, when he puts his hands on defensive linemen,

1518
01:15:23,600 --> 01:15:26,280
Speaker 2: they usually do not escape. And I know I was

1519
01:15:26,360 --> 01:15:32,760
Speaker 2: watching it this morning, the Florida Georgia tape. Now, he

1520
01:15:32,920 --> 01:15:36,040
Speaker 2: was matched up with Jalen Carter on a number of plays.

1521
01:15:36,520 --> 01:15:39,080
Speaker 2: He did not win all of them, but he won

1522
01:15:39,160 --> 01:15:42,000
Speaker 2: his fair share. And if you can do that against

1523
01:15:42,000 --> 01:15:45,120
Speaker 2: the top ten draft choice, who some thought was the

1524
01:15:45,200 --> 01:15:49,880
Speaker 2: best player in the entire class, I am optimistic about

1525
01:15:49,920 --> 01:15:50,320
Speaker 2: that cat.

1526
01:15:51,240 --> 01:15:56,360
Speaker 1: I am too. He's a big dude, too big, heavy body.

1527
01:15:57,479 --> 01:16:00,920
Speaker 1: When he plays. I'm not saying he's got quick feet.

1528
01:16:01,040 --> 01:16:02,760
Speaker 1: He does all that stuff. He moves, he gets to

1529
01:16:02,800 --> 01:16:06,759
Speaker 1: the second level, all of that stuff, but he looks heavy.

1530
01:16:06,920 --> 01:16:09,280
Speaker 1: And when those guys hit him, they you know, you

1531
01:16:09,360 --> 01:16:11,439
Speaker 1: see guys, they just don't move him.

1532
01:16:11,760 --> 01:16:12,679
Speaker 3: Well, I saw a guy.

1533
01:16:13,040 --> 01:16:17,320
Speaker 2: So they're playing Georgia and one of their linebackers is

1534
01:16:17,600 --> 01:16:21,320
Speaker 2: triggering on a delayed blitz and he's in the gap

1535
01:16:21,680 --> 01:16:24,200
Speaker 2: and this guy is taking a ten yard run at him.

1536
01:16:24,920 --> 01:16:27,360
Speaker 2: Now he's only about two forty, but he's taking a

1537
01:16:27,439 --> 01:16:30,839
Speaker 2: ten yard run at him, and Osiris is just standing

1538
01:16:30,880 --> 01:16:34,639
Speaker 2: there and he just he just sucked him up, Yeah,

1539
01:16:34,840 --> 01:16:37,240
Speaker 2: and didn't even move, like, did not take a single

1540
01:16:37,320 --> 01:16:40,639
Speaker 2: step backwards. And I was just like, okay, he just yes,

1541
01:16:40,840 --> 01:16:42,760
Speaker 2: like pretty good. But it's like the kid ran into

1542
01:16:43,000 --> 01:16:44,960
Speaker 2: the ball ball. Yeah, he just stopped.

1543
01:16:46,040 --> 01:16:47,760
Speaker 1: You see. Even when he's you know, even down in

1544
01:16:47,840 --> 01:16:52,240
Speaker 1: the in the trenches, when he leans into somebody, they

1545
01:16:52,280 --> 01:16:54,160
Speaker 1: don't stand him back up, you know what I mean.

1546
01:16:54,280 --> 01:16:58,200
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, So that'll be fun to watch. And you know,

1547
01:16:58,320 --> 01:16:59,960
Speaker 1: training campus, you know, once again is going to be

1548
01:17:00,000 --> 01:17:00,800
Speaker 1: an exciting time.

1549
01:17:00,880 --> 01:17:04,479
Speaker 2: And right now, like if you had to handicap it

1550
01:17:04,560 --> 01:17:10,600
Speaker 2: right now, Steve, the two biggest position battles today this

1551
01:17:10,880 --> 01:17:13,080
Speaker 2: subject to change, of course. If you had to pick

1552
01:17:13,120 --> 01:17:17,000
Speaker 2: the two biggest position battles today, it's middle linebacker and

1553
01:17:17,200 --> 01:17:21,879
Speaker 2: right guard because right guard has Ryan Bates, Osiris, Torrance

1554
01:17:22,160 --> 01:17:28,200
Speaker 2: and David Edwards Hello. And then middle linebacker you got

1555
01:17:28,240 --> 01:17:33,960
Speaker 2: the crew Tyrell Dotson, Terrell Bernard, possibly Dorian Williams and

1556
01:17:34,080 --> 01:17:37,599
Speaker 2: Baal in spector aj Klein. The way Brandon Mean put

1557
01:17:37,640 --> 01:17:39,960
Speaker 2: it on Saturday Night sounds like the insurance policy.

1558
01:17:40,320 --> 01:17:43,520
Speaker 3: He's going to back up both spots, Milano and middle linebacker.

1559
01:17:43,920 --> 01:17:45,760
Speaker 2: And I guess if all else fails and they're not

1560
01:17:45,880 --> 01:17:48,200
Speaker 2: happy with any one of those guys trying to fill

1561
01:17:48,240 --> 01:17:52,519
Speaker 2: Tremaine Edmund spot, maybe it's Kleine that gets plugged in there.

1562
01:17:52,720 --> 01:17:55,200
Speaker 1: You know, it's also true too that there's gonna I

1563
01:17:55,280 --> 01:17:58,880
Speaker 1: hadn't thought about it. But who's gonna play CB two

1564
01:18:00,280 --> 01:18:03,280
Speaker 1: Cayir Christian Benford or is Benford gonna go to safety?

1565
01:18:03,600 --> 01:18:04,400
Speaker 1: Dame Jackson?

1566
01:18:04,960 --> 01:18:09,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, I would anticipate it's elim when all

1567
01:18:09,080 --> 01:18:10,479
Speaker 2: is said and done. That may not be how it

1568
01:18:10,520 --> 01:18:13,320
Speaker 2: looks at the start of training camp, but I think

1569
01:18:13,360 --> 01:18:14,240
Speaker 2: when all is said.

1570
01:18:14,040 --> 01:18:18,200
Speaker 3: And done, it should be the two first round draft choices.

1571
01:18:18,280 --> 01:18:18,960
Speaker 3: Call me crazy.

1572
01:18:19,080 --> 01:18:22,519
Speaker 1: Maybe we thought that last year too, and then what

1573
01:18:22,640 --> 01:18:23,959
Speaker 1: happens and they said.

1574
01:18:23,800 --> 01:18:26,080
Speaker 3: That they were like the way finished last year. That's

1575
01:18:26,120 --> 01:18:26,640
Speaker 3: why I feel that.

1576
01:18:26,800 --> 01:18:29,559
Speaker 1: But he finished that way because Benford was hurt. Yep,

1577
01:18:29,840 --> 01:18:34,160
Speaker 1: he had busted here. And now they're talking about moving

1578
01:18:34,200 --> 01:18:36,599
Speaker 1: Benford to safety because he's got all those measurables too.

1579
01:18:37,400 --> 01:18:40,120
Speaker 1: And he's just the personality that's like, oh, you want

1580
01:18:40,160 --> 01:18:42,320
Speaker 1: me to play nose tackle? Sure, where do I You know?

1581
01:18:42,600 --> 01:18:47,720
Speaker 1: Where's the meeting room? Yeah? Right, he didn't care. He'll

1582
01:18:47,800 --> 01:18:49,320
Speaker 1: and he'll do whatever they ask him to do, and

1583
01:18:49,360 --> 01:18:52,839
Speaker 1: he'll do it extremely well. And you know, nothing rattles

1584
01:18:53,800 --> 01:18:58,160
Speaker 1: Christian Benford and so he if they want to move

1585
01:18:58,240 --> 01:19:01,240
Speaker 1: him to safety, I'm pretty sure they're gonna get pretty

1586
01:19:01,240 --> 01:19:03,719
Speaker 1: good safety out of that. You know, whether he starts

1587
01:19:03,760 --> 01:19:06,439
Speaker 1: on this team or not, that's that's another story. But

1588
01:19:06,640 --> 01:19:09,040
Speaker 1: if they feel like it, they'll do it, and he'll

1589
01:19:09,320 --> 01:19:10,920
Speaker 1: he'll make that move and he won't It won't even

1590
01:19:10,920 --> 01:19:12,880
Speaker 1: be a bump on the road for him. So that's

1591
01:19:12,920 --> 01:19:15,920
Speaker 1: the kind of guy he is. That's You're right, there

1592
01:19:15,960 --> 01:19:19,439
Speaker 1: are some right guard, middle linebacker, and like I would

1593
01:19:19,439 --> 01:19:21,479
Speaker 1: say the top two right now, I would like, who's

1594
01:19:21,520 --> 01:19:23,880
Speaker 1: gonna sift through that corner because they got some corners

1595
01:19:23,920 --> 01:19:29,040
Speaker 1: that can go. And not to mention Alex Austin in

1596
01:19:29,120 --> 01:19:32,040
Speaker 1: the mix as well, the new kid, because he's gonna

1597
01:19:32,080 --> 01:19:35,400
Speaker 1: look exactly he's gonna look exactly like those guys.

1598
01:19:36,840 --> 01:19:39,360
Speaker 2: And you just heard Brandon Bean talking about JaMarcus Ingram.

1599
01:19:40,080 --> 01:19:41,680
Speaker 2: You know, it was on the practice squad last year.

1600
01:19:41,720 --> 01:19:43,760
Speaker 2: Got plugged in Week three against Miami when the half

1601
01:19:43,800 --> 01:19:44,840
Speaker 2: their defense was hurt.

1602
01:19:45,600 --> 01:19:51,280
Speaker 1: Because you got Christian Benford, Kyrie Elam, JaMarcus Ingram, Dame

1603
01:19:51,479 --> 01:19:57,320
Speaker 1: Jackson of course, Taron Johnson, Cam Lewis, h Kyler mcmake.

1604
01:19:57,360 --> 01:19:58,559
Speaker 3: Cam's more of a safety now.

1605
01:19:58,640 --> 01:20:01,400
Speaker 1: Kyler McMichael six foot two, two first year play out

1606
01:20:01,400 --> 01:20:03,479
Speaker 1: of North Carolina. He was on the practice s Sarran

1607
01:20:03,600 --> 01:20:07,120
Speaker 1: Neil's special teams guy tra Davious of course. So they god,

1608
01:20:09,000 --> 01:20:10,800
Speaker 1: it's a horse race, and I'm to tell you something,

1609
01:20:10,840 --> 01:20:12,799
Speaker 1: those guys all look like they could do it physically,

1610
01:20:13,520 --> 01:20:15,559
Speaker 1: So we'll see how that sifts out. But that's an

1611
01:20:15,840 --> 01:20:18,439
Speaker 1: another competition in training camp we can get into. But

1612
01:20:18,479 --> 01:20:21,519
Speaker 1: you're right that right guard, the offensive line is gonna

1613
01:20:21,560 --> 01:20:25,200
Speaker 1: be they got some guys down there and then middle

1614
01:20:25,280 --> 01:20:30,000
Speaker 1: linebacker two because it's always gonna look different without Tremaine

1615
01:20:30,040 --> 01:20:32,840
Speaker 1: in there, because Tremaine, I mean, was yeah, looked different

1616
01:20:32,840 --> 01:20:34,400
Speaker 1: when he was in there. But they've got a bunch

1617
01:20:34,439 --> 01:20:37,200
Speaker 1: of guys in there now that are it's gonna be

1618
01:20:37,320 --> 01:20:40,600
Speaker 1: who knows the most and who's best athlete, you know,

1619
01:20:40,720 --> 01:20:44,280
Speaker 1: who can make plays, and I think, you know, not

1620
01:20:44,400 --> 01:20:46,519
Speaker 1: for nothing. I think they're missed Tremaine. But I think

1621
01:20:46,520 --> 01:20:48,000
Speaker 1: they got a chance at having a guy in there

1622
01:20:48,040 --> 01:20:51,560
Speaker 1: that can make more plays because just because of the

1623
01:20:51,680 --> 01:20:55,679
Speaker 1: instinctiveness and you know the fact they change change direction

1624
01:20:55,760 --> 01:20:58,800
Speaker 1: a little better. I don't know, we'll see. I think

1625
01:20:58,800 --> 01:21:00,519
Speaker 1: they're gonna be happy with the guy that picking there.

1626
01:21:00,600 --> 01:21:00,760
Speaker 4: Though.

1627
01:21:01,760 --> 01:21:03,719
Speaker 2: Let's get back to the phones though, for your thoughts

1628
01:21:03,960 --> 01:21:07,040
Speaker 2: on what your biggest takeaway was from the twenty twenty

1629
01:21:07,080 --> 01:21:10,799
Speaker 2: three draft class for the Bills and to John in Buffalo.

1630
01:21:10,880 --> 01:21:11,679
Speaker 3: What do we got John?

1631
01:21:13,680 --> 01:21:14,200
Speaker 7: Let's get.

1632
01:21:15,680 --> 01:21:16,800
Speaker 3: John pick up your phone.

1633
01:21:17,040 --> 01:21:17,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, we got you.

1634
01:21:17,760 --> 01:21:18,120
Speaker 3: What's up?

1635
01:21:19,560 --> 01:21:19,680
Speaker 6: Uh?

1636
01:21:20,040 --> 01:21:23,439
Speaker 4: First of all, think you sticking out cost Steve and Chris.

1637
01:21:23,680 --> 01:21:23,920
Speaker 3: Sure.

1638
01:21:25,360 --> 01:21:28,679
Speaker 4: I loved your professionalism when last I knew I forgot

1639
01:21:28,760 --> 01:21:31,240
Speaker 4: to do us last week or the week before, when

1640
01:21:31,280 --> 01:21:34,439
Speaker 4: that guy talked about the my handler and all that. Yeah,

1641
01:21:34,800 --> 01:21:37,120
Speaker 4: you know, y'all were very professional. I mean I could

1642
01:21:37,120 --> 01:21:41,439
Speaker 4: see r when you when y'all get emotional, y'all, it's

1643
01:21:41,479 --> 01:21:43,559
Speaker 4: a van that pops up the Steve's head. It basically

1644
01:21:43,680 --> 01:21:48,800
Speaker 4: last but your hands to be great. But I just

1645
01:21:48,880 --> 01:21:53,719
Speaker 4: wanted to say about I love the tight end pick listen.

1646
01:21:54,080 --> 01:21:56,200
Speaker 4: I don't think we list stick the receiver. I think

1647
01:21:56,280 --> 01:21:59,360
Speaker 4: Kate Davis is capable. It was just he was hurt

1648
01:21:59,439 --> 01:22:03,639
Speaker 4: last year. When that guy's healthy, watch it. That's my opinion,

1649
01:22:04,040 --> 01:22:05,519
Speaker 4: you know, I see we got a bunch of guys

1650
01:22:05,560 --> 01:22:09,519
Speaker 4: that could do the job. What I really would like

1651
01:22:09,600 --> 01:22:14,000
Speaker 4: to say is that Buffalo fans, if your too does mythfield,

1652
01:22:15,320 --> 01:22:18,120
Speaker 4: you appreciate what we got to This team is mentally

1653
01:22:18,320 --> 01:22:21,960
Speaker 4: tough prepares for the coming year. I mean, I'm glad

1654
01:22:22,000 --> 01:22:24,519
Speaker 4: nobody's talking about us. We played better when with the

1655
01:22:24,600 --> 01:22:26,920
Speaker 4: other dogs. So that's all I got to say. And

1656
01:22:26,960 --> 01:22:29,439
Speaker 4: I wanted to thank y'all for for your show, just

1657
01:22:29,640 --> 01:22:31,920
Speaker 4: like I told my wife every time I go watch

1658
01:22:31,960 --> 01:22:34,960
Speaker 4: my soap opera or Stephen Chris, I said it absolutely.

1659
01:22:37,000 --> 01:22:37,160
Speaker 3: Well.

1660
01:22:37,240 --> 01:22:39,559
Speaker 2: It was for a short time last week, John, thanks

1661
01:22:39,600 --> 01:22:42,280
Speaker 2: for the call. We appreciate it. Yeah, sorry, fire was

1662
01:22:42,320 --> 01:22:44,040
Speaker 2: coming out of my eyes for a short stint there,

1663
01:22:44,960 --> 01:22:47,080
Speaker 2: and yeah, the vein was popping on Steve's head. But

1664
01:22:47,120 --> 01:22:50,200
Speaker 2: we got it squared away and try to do it

1665
01:22:50,240 --> 01:22:51,400
Speaker 2: as professionally as we could.

1666
01:22:51,520 --> 01:22:54,519
Speaker 1: Most fan bases, most fan bases are much more comfortable

1667
01:22:54,560 --> 01:22:56,720
Speaker 1: being the chaser. And there's no question The Bills are

1668
01:22:56,760 --> 01:23:00,200
Speaker 1: out of the spotlight in a lot of regards from

1669
01:23:00,240 --> 01:23:02,960
Speaker 1: where they were a year ago. Year ago, everybody was

1670
01:23:03,040 --> 01:23:05,240
Speaker 1: talking about the Bills. You couldn't get around it. They

1671
01:23:05,320 --> 01:23:09,280
Speaker 1: were the team. They were gonna this year with largely

1672
01:23:09,960 --> 01:23:13,280
Speaker 1: the same roster and in some ways, like I told you,

1673
01:23:13,400 --> 01:23:18,479
Speaker 1: even better down inside, they're completely off the radar.

1674
01:23:18,960 --> 01:23:21,240
Speaker 3: Well, people are gaga for the Jets, and I get it.

1675
01:23:21,680 --> 01:23:25,240
Speaker 1: I and the Jets for the second offseason in a row,

1676
01:23:25,280 --> 01:23:27,639
Speaker 1: seem to do it, have been done it right, which

1677
01:23:27,720 --> 01:23:28,280
Speaker 1: is new.

1678
01:23:28,439 --> 01:23:30,599
Speaker 3: I mean, their draft class was not nearly as good

1679
01:23:30,600 --> 01:23:31,439
Speaker 3: as it was last year.

1680
01:23:31,560 --> 01:23:33,920
Speaker 2: Granted it was easier last year with three first round picks,

1681
01:23:34,000 --> 01:23:38,200
Speaker 2: but they listened to the draft that hasn't killed it.

1682
01:23:38,320 --> 01:23:40,559
Speaker 1: Last year they got the offensive rookie of the year

1683
01:23:40,640 --> 01:23:43,920
Speaker 1: and the defensive rookie of the year. That that's unprecedented.

1684
01:23:43,960 --> 01:23:46,280
Speaker 1: So the Jets killed it a year ago. It's gonna

1685
01:23:46,280 --> 01:23:48,160
Speaker 1: be hard for them to follow up with that kind

1686
01:23:48,200 --> 01:23:52,120
Speaker 1: of success. But they did get Aaron Rodgers. This just

1687
01:23:52,200 --> 01:23:55,160
Speaker 1: in the Jets are a problem for everybody now that

1688
01:23:55,240 --> 01:23:57,519
Speaker 1: they play. They had a really nice roster last year.

1689
01:23:57,600 --> 01:24:00,280
Speaker 1: Robert Sala has finally got a guy that can the

1690
01:24:00,320 --> 01:24:03,479
Speaker 1: trigger in New York. That'll know what he's doing, and

1691
01:24:03,840 --> 01:24:06,040
Speaker 1: it's gonna make all the difference for them. Theoretically, we

1692
01:24:06,120 --> 01:24:09,040
Speaker 1: still got to play these games, but there's every reason

1693
01:24:09,080 --> 01:24:13,240
Speaker 1: to believe the Jets got significantly better. It's going to

1694
01:24:13,280 --> 01:24:15,559
Speaker 1: be a fun division. I think, a really fun division.

1695
01:24:16,120 --> 01:24:20,439
Speaker 3: Yeah, let's get around the NFL here quickly.

1696
01:24:21,040 --> 01:24:22,800
Speaker 2: I know we're doing this later than we usually do,

1697
01:24:23,000 --> 01:24:27,679
Speaker 2: but it is fifth year option decision time for teams

1698
01:24:27,720 --> 01:24:30,920
Speaker 2: around the league with their first round picks from the

1699
01:24:31,120 --> 01:24:34,920
Speaker 2: twenty twenty draft. Obviously, the Bills are not impacted by this.

1700
01:24:35,080 --> 01:24:38,679
Speaker 2: They did not have a first round pick in twenty twenty,

1701
01:24:39,040 --> 01:24:42,719
Speaker 2: but there were some decisions that have been made according

1702
01:24:42,760 --> 01:24:46,160
Speaker 2: to reports. So the Browns are going to pick up

1703
01:24:46,200 --> 01:24:49,679
Speaker 2: their fifth year option on left tackle Jedrick Wills, which

1704
01:24:49,760 --> 01:24:52,719
Speaker 2: guarantees him a salary of fourteen and a quarter million

1705
01:24:52,800 --> 01:24:55,800
Speaker 2: next year. Panthers picked up the fifth year option on

1706
01:24:55,880 --> 01:24:57,919
Speaker 2: defensive tackle Derek Brown's contract.

1707
01:24:58,000 --> 01:24:59,920
Speaker 3: That was not a surprise, he was a top five pick.

1708
01:25:00,680 --> 01:25:04,040
Speaker 2: The Jaguars, however, are not picking up the fifth year

1709
01:25:04,040 --> 01:25:07,679
Speaker 2: option on edge rusher calevon Chason.

1710
01:25:08,360 --> 01:25:10,960
Speaker 3: He's kind of had an up and down career.

1711
01:25:11,080 --> 01:25:16,479
Speaker 2: Down there, so he enters a contract year now, and look,

1712
01:25:16,800 --> 01:25:18,840
Speaker 2: some of these players would almost prefer to become a

1713
01:25:18,920 --> 01:25:21,519
Speaker 2: free agent and have thirty two teams bidding on their

1714
01:25:21,560 --> 01:25:24,320
Speaker 2: services rather than signing a fifth year option and working

1715
01:25:24,400 --> 01:25:25,679
Speaker 2: on an extension with one team.

1716
01:25:26,400 --> 01:25:28,599
Speaker 3: Let the whole league have at you and see what happens.

1717
01:25:29,080 --> 01:25:30,080
Speaker 3: The Saints, this.

1718
01:25:30,160 --> 01:25:32,800
Speaker 2: One was interesting, Steve. The Saints are not picking up

1719
01:25:32,840 --> 01:25:37,080
Speaker 2: the fifth year option on center Caesar Ruiz. Now, that

1720
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Speaker 2: might be because they're always up against the cap in

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01:25:40,720 --> 01:25:44,000
Speaker 2: such horrible fashion every year. Anyway, the thought of adding

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01:25:44,040 --> 01:25:47,120
Speaker 2: a salary prematurely kind of cuts against the grain of

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01:25:47,160 --> 01:25:49,639
Speaker 2: what they try to do with their creative accounting every spring.

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01:25:50,960 --> 01:25:54,320
Speaker 2: And then the Broncos are picking up the fifth year

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01:25:54,320 --> 01:25:58,200
Speaker 2: option on wide receiver Jerry Judy, a receiver that was

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01:25:58,320 --> 01:26:03,200
Speaker 2: rumored to be shop very early on in the offseason.

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Speaker 2: I think that was tamped down considerably after Sean Payton

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Speaker 2: was named head coach, as he made it clear. I mean,

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Speaker 2: I think the Broncos only had four or five picks

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Speaker 2: in the draft after giving up the farm Russell Wilson,

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01:26:17,240 --> 01:26:19,080
Speaker 2: and he's looking around, going, well, if I only got

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Speaker 2: five draft picks and I got Courtland Sutton, Jerry Judy

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Speaker 2: in house, Like, why am I going to ship one

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Speaker 2: of those guys?

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Speaker 4: Yeah?

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Speaker 1: Right, Jerry Judy only played and like when he came back,

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Speaker 1: and he played like in five games or six games,

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Speaker 1: and he was on pace for like one hundred plus

1739
01:26:32,479 --> 01:26:35,360
Speaker 1: catches on the year, for fourteen hundred plus yards. That's

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Speaker 1: the kind of pace he was on through those games

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Speaker 1: he played in. So it wasn't like he was he's

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01:26:40,280 --> 01:26:42,599
Speaker 1: an ineffective wide out. He was just injured for most

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01:26:42,640 --> 01:26:45,200
Speaker 1: of the season. So when he came back, the guy

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01:26:45,320 --> 01:26:51,120
Speaker 1: was a difference maker. And for whatever reason it was

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01:26:51,200 --> 01:26:53,400
Speaker 1: put out there, he was going to be shopped as

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01:26:53,439 --> 01:26:58,840
Speaker 1: a trade you know candidate. And you're right. Sean Payton

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01:26:58,880 --> 01:26:59,599
Speaker 1: got in there and said.

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Speaker 3: And what are you doing?

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Speaker 1: Have you seen this guy play by the way?

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Speaker 4: You know?

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Speaker 1: Right, So he's not going anywhere, And certainly the asking

1752
01:27:08,520 --> 01:27:11,760
Speaker 1: price is the only reason it didn't happen for the Broncos,

1753
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Speaker 1: because everybody knew what a good player he was, including

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Speaker 1: the Broncos.

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Speaker 3: We take a break here.

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Speaker 2: When we return, we'll let you know what other teams

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Speaker 2: in the league we thought at a pretty bang up

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Speaker 2: draft this weekend. We'll have those for you when we

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Speaker 2: return here on One Bill's Live, presented by kill Lot

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Speaker 2: of Health, It's Buffalo Bill's Radio. Bugging back to One

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Speaker 2: Bill's Live, Chris Brown, Steve Tasser, you're gonna give you

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Speaker 2: our thoughts on some other teams that lit it up

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Speaker 2: in the draft. You know, we know that there's some

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Speaker 2: favorites out there that we've seen everywhere. But did you

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Speaker 2: have a couple of teams that you really liked what

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Speaker 2: they did.

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Speaker 1: Or most of them? Like I liked Anthony Richardson going

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Speaker 1: to Colts, the Colts, and I like them getting the

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Speaker 1: Northwestern kid that at a timwah at a bbore defensive tackle.

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Speaker 1: He's a kid that really emerged late in the draft

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Speaker 1: process after the you know, when he tested off the

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Speaker 1: charts after having just you know, he's at Northwestern and

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Speaker 1: they you know, big ten school. But they didn't win

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Speaker 1: too many games. I thought that was you know, I

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01:28:22,920 --> 01:28:27,719
Speaker 1: thought they did pretty well, particularly with new head coach

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01:28:28,720 --> 01:28:32,840
Speaker 1: and trying to finally fix their quarterback issues. I thought

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Speaker 1: Anthony Richardson falling to them, Anthony Richardson's order, will Levice

1778
01:28:36,720 --> 01:28:40,240
Speaker 1: fall into them was was a godsend for them, and

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01:28:40,439 --> 01:28:44,720
Speaker 1: they got lucky and Houston pulled an absolute idiocy and

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Speaker 1: traded up to the third spot.

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Speaker 3: So then they gave for that.

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Speaker 2: I know everybody under the sun picked Philly and Seattle,

1783
01:28:51,680 --> 01:28:54,320
Speaker 2: and they did have good draft classes, no question about it.

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Speaker 2: I thought Pittsburgh hit it out of the park Broderick

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Speaker 2: Jones at fourteen. They get great value with the top

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Speaker 2: round two with Joey Porter, who's a great physical corner,

1787
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Speaker 2: just didn't test well. And then they get Keanu Benton

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Speaker 2: in the third round, the defensive tackle of Wisconsin, Darnell

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Speaker 2: Washington in the fourth, and then an edge rusher and

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Speaker 2: Nick Herbig, also from Wisconsin. I mean, that's a heck

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Speaker 2: of a haul there. Giants did well, Tampa did well,

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Speaker 2: and I hate to say it, I think Kansas City

1793
01:29:20,320 --> 01:29:21,479
Speaker 2: did pretty well too well.

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Speaker 3: But the Bills did well.

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Speaker 1: I was always the new Patriots taking a kicker and

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Speaker 1: a punter. Good for them.

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Speaker 3: They do their own thing.

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Speaker 2: Steve and I'll see you tomorrow had won for a

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Speaker 2: Tuesday edition of One Bill's Live