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Speaker 1: It is Thursday, August first, this is Jaguars Happy Hour. Hey, now,

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Speaker 1: the only guy in training camp to you out cut

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Speaker 1: that meat? J P. Shut I don't know that was Peyton,

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Speaker 1: Remember he did that commercial Welcome in Jaguars Happy Hour.

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Speaker 1: J P. Shadrick, Jeff Flagman, Tony was Sally. Leon Searcy

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Speaker 1: joins us as well to see the show got better.

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Speaker 1: I had to say this to Leon earlier, and I

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Speaker 1: gotta bring it up to you and the people that

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Speaker 1: are watching. Seriously, You're on the left side. You're you're

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Speaker 1: the book end left tackle here on the table. Leon

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Speaker 1: is the book end tackle on the right side, and

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Speaker 1: you're like, both of them will beat the hell out

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Speaker 1: of you, JP or in the middle. Feel very protected

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Speaker 1: here in the middle, that's for sure. Right plenty to

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Speaker 1: get too of the program. Didn't know how to act

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Speaker 1: if you were flipped right right. Second week of camp

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Speaker 1: well under way of scrimmage coming up tomorrow. We'll delve

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Speaker 1: into the offensive line a bit with the book d

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Speaker 1: tackles here the tight end room. One of the tight

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Speaker 1: ends limped off today. We might have to hear from

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Speaker 1: Doug Moron in the second hour, and the Doug Maron

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Speaker 1: Show tonight to ask him about that. The backup quarterback

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Speaker 1: battle will delve into that. And yes, there's been some

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Speaker 1: social media buzz about the Jaguars All twenty five list

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Speaker 1: in the last day or so. We'll get a couple

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Speaker 1: of guys that are on the list. Thoughts about that.

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Speaker 1: But some breaking news this afternoon just a few minutes ago,

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Speaker 1: Ian Rappaport of NFL Network reporting that Quincy Williams sustained

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Speaker 1: to partially torn meniscus and could miss four to six weeks.

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Speaker 1: He'll have Arthur orthoscopic surgery to go trim the meniscus

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Speaker 1: at that's what Rappaport said. Bad news with the Jaguars

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Speaker 1: for a guy that Doug Marone really talked up over

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Speaker 1: the last week or so about his speed on the field,

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Speaker 1: his football i Q. Everything that come together for this

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Speaker 1: rookie to to run with the ones really the whole offseason.

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Speaker 1: But now he's down for at least a month. That

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Speaker 1: and we didn't anyone see the actual play he got

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Speaker 1: hurt on. I didn't either. Um, the team still hasn't

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Speaker 1: made a report, so this is this is from team

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Speaker 1: comed The team did finally confirm it. Okay, I was

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Speaker 1: coming up here earlier I did not. Okay, so it's

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Speaker 1: just minutes ago. So it is confirmed, and it's uh, listen,

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Speaker 1: it's a it's a loss. He's just starting. Uh, he's

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Speaker 1: starting with a linebacker with no telling Smith he brings

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Speaker 1: you know that. So there was a void there that

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Speaker 1: he stood out more than any line and he did.

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Speaker 1: He's probably playing better than any other linebackers. But if

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Speaker 1: you're gonna get hurt, this is the right time to

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Speaker 1: get hurt for rookie, you know what I'm saying. But

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Speaker 1: I'm not saying it's bad no matter what. But yes,

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Speaker 1: you'd like him to have the reps, but get hurt

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Speaker 1: when there's no games. Yeah, yeah, I totally agree. But

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Speaker 1: the learning curve for rookie, it's very important, especially doing

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Speaker 1: training cap and he's one of the guys that definitely

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Speaker 1: stood out to me in training camp. I mean being

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Speaker 1: a rookie being on every play, I mean just going downhill,

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Speaker 1: you know, making you know, making his reason, all that

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Speaker 1: the most impressive guys on the defense side of the

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Speaker 1: ball as far as going down and making place. And

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Speaker 1: now is unfortunately, I think it actually saw a play

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Speaker 1: where he got I'm not I'm not sure if he

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Speaker 1: got a girl on that play where he got truck

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Speaker 1: you got not granted the offensive lineman had his hands

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Speaker 1: on him, but the running back game and the whole

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Speaker 1: and that was another rookie exactly that it was. He

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Speaker 1: did get truck on the helmet, would fine, it was

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Speaker 1: and practiced after that. I don't know if he was

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Speaker 1: finally the interesting thing watching him and particularly in yesterday's

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Speaker 1: practice and leon Leon and I were talking about a

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Speaker 1: little bit while you were off, you know, getting your pedicure,

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Speaker 1: the pedic here. I've had one pedicure in my life

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Speaker 1: and I hated it. My wife made me get it. It

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Speaker 1: It was the most uncomfortable thing I've ever done. The

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Speaker 1: not but you know much I wasn't getting a pedicure.

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Speaker 1: Quincy Williams seems to be the one guy on the

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Speaker 1: defensive side of the ball that doesn't understand that you

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Speaker 1: don't touch Leonard four Nette well good. He's come up

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Speaker 1: and he's thumped Leonard a couple of times, and Leonard

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Speaker 1: didn't like it back at him. No, No, I mean

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Speaker 1: Even when the plays over, he was already on the

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Speaker 1: And it was interesting because the very next play is

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Speaker 1: Quincy's coming on a blitz and was looking him up

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Speaker 1: the blitz and he missed and he missed. So there's

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Speaker 1: been a little bit of a a little bit of

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Speaker 1: a contentious nature with Quincy Williams and Leonard Fournette and

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Speaker 1: practice Quincy and the wrong no football, So it's pads. No,

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Speaker 1: he's not wrong. I like a rook at that doesn't

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Speaker 1: know any better. Don't show anybody pre for Ristard treatment.

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Speaker 1: Youre trying to make a team running backs get hit. Absolutely,

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Speaker 1: did I miss something? Leonard do something that the last

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Speaker 1: preferential treatment and not supposed touching. Did I miss it?

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Speaker 1: He hasn't learned the red jersey yet. It was funny

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Speaker 1: to watch it though, because he's a young player. He flies,

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Speaker 1: he's practicing hard. That's what you want your young players

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Speaker 1: to do. I mean, that's the kind of a player

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Speaker 1: little bit. But from what I've seen out of him

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Speaker 1: so far, he's doing a fantastic job. And a lot

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Speaker 1: of people criticize him because they think he's small. He's

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Speaker 1: not small. He's shorter, okay, but his size. I mean

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Speaker 1: he's two hundred and thirty pounds and he is length

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Speaker 1: and yeah, and he's got I'm like, but he's he's

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Speaker 1: got a great knack for timing. He's got a great

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Speaker 1: knack for angles when he's going to the football. He's

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Speaker 1: fun to watch him, and it's it's unfortunate that he's

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Speaker 1: gonna miss the time because it's a critical time for rookies.

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Speaker 1: I mean, he needs this time in the defense. But

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Speaker 1: at the same token, they signed a bunch of veterans

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Speaker 1: are they downing up Telvin going They're not. I mean,

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Speaker 1: so we sit here today, how many days till opening opening, Uh, Sunday.

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Speaker 1: I don't know, you want any come? What is it?

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Speaker 1: It's four and half weeks what's called five? Four to six?

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Speaker 1: If now, if they just have to trim it, guys

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Speaker 1: he's getting stuck in there, the rehab isn't hard. Now

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Speaker 1: not gonna know what the damages that meniscacce do they

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Speaker 1: get in there. Let's hope for the best that it's minor.

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Speaker 1: He can be back in four weeks. Maybe you could

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Speaker 1: practice in get a four week of practice before the

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Speaker 1: first game, you know, the learning curve. Leon is right,

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Speaker 1: I mean, there's a rookie. You need all the reps

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Speaker 1: you can. But I'm just saying, you know, Jeff, I mean,

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Speaker 1: it's all about where the meniscas. It depends on the

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Speaker 1: severity of it. I mean, because if it's nothing serious,

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Speaker 1: I mean, like you just said, two or three weeks.

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Speaker 1: He could be back on the field, could be could

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Speaker 1: be speed, you know, half maybe mentally, but but the

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Speaker 1: mental reps, I mean, look, we all know the mental

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Speaker 1: reps aren't like what it's like when you take real reps.

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Speaker 1: I came in the league as a linebacker and I

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Speaker 1: was hold out till I think the second first or

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Speaker 1: he's gonna be missing time. At least he's had some

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Speaker 1: after the first game, I was named a starter because

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Speaker 1: of me. And in the second week, I'm a starter.

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Speaker 1: In my head was swimming swimming. That's because I mean,

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Speaker 1: you're not very smart. Probably so, but I mean it

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Speaker 1: wasn't easy. I mean it's look, it's it's hard to

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Speaker 1: learn a new system. I don't in your rookie year.

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Speaker 1: It's easier if you're in year four or five, six.

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Speaker 1: Get I'll say this though, watching the kid on the field,

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Speaker 1: he doesn't look overwhelmed. It doesn't look I don't see

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Speaker 1: a lot of mental airs. You're not hearing a bunch

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Speaker 1: of mental airs from him. You watch him, he's playing fast.

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Speaker 1: I mean, it doesn't feel like to me. And obviously

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Speaker 1: the more they put in you get in the game

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Speaker 1: week and all the preparation is a lot more. Jeff,

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Speaker 1: playing slow thinking. He's playing as fast as anyone dugs

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Speaker 1: there and react. Now getting the game game situation, everything changes.

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Speaker 1: I'd like to have about seven of him playing special

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Speaker 1: teams who all the time happy. So Quincy Williams four

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Speaker 1: to six weeks, partially toward meniscus the breaking news. This afternoon.

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Speaker 1: Josh Allen, Jaguars defensive end, spoke with the media after

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Speaker 1: practice today. It's his first NFL training camp and he's

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Speaker 1: learning from one of the best alongside him. Oh man,

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Speaker 1: I mean, it's Clay's Campbell. You know what You've seen

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Speaker 1: his word, You've seen he's been doing for the last

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Speaker 1: ten plus years. Uh So, having a guy like that,

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Speaker 1: I wants to teach me, and I wants you know

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Speaker 1: that wants then that needs me. Man, It's obviously I'm

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Speaker 1: do it. So when I do do it, he's making

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Speaker 1: a play and I'm making a play. We're gonna be

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Speaker 1: on stoppable duo. What's your first impressions of Josh Allen

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Speaker 1: and training camp so far? Guys, le on, what do

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Speaker 1: you think? Oh? I love his side. That size. I

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Speaker 1: want to say he's bracking Ish only by his built

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Speaker 1: none of the wiggle. That He's far from Tony Brackets now,

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Speaker 1: but his size reminds me a lot of Brackens. As

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Speaker 1: far as the lusimus in his ability to get around

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Speaker 1: offensive tackles, that's yet to be seen. But the smartest

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Speaker 1: thing he ever said on that the whole that tellercast

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Speaker 1: was that he's learning from class Campbell. I mean, what

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Speaker 1: what a person to learn from someone who's got the

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Speaker 1: leadership qualities. The enthusiasm has been the league so long.

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Speaker 1: a rookie tounch. He told me, he asked me a question,

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Speaker 1: he said, do you get here here for the short term?

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Speaker 1: On the long term? So the long term, he said, well,

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Speaker 1: do whatever I say, And I did. Okay, it's pretty good.

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Speaker 1: Ad you know, uh, I ain't search said it best.

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Speaker 1: I mean he's big, long, athletic. I mean he looks

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Speaker 1: the partner's bigger than I thought. He is big and

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Speaker 1: he's gonna be it. We'll get to the past in

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Speaker 1: a second. He rushes. I mean he plays to run

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Speaker 1: pretty good. He's physical. Now he's got well, he's got

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Speaker 1: some things to learn on. I'm not saying this is learning,

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Speaker 1: a little higher, But like Tony said, he does have

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Speaker 1: But as I don't know if he's fortunate and unfortunate

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Speaker 1: But Lee and all the things you said as negative,

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Speaker 1: the drifting, the hand, those are all fixable. Like his feet,

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Speaker 1: like the most important thing. Like Cam Robinson, very good athlete,

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Speaker 1: everything else, but from day one he talked about it.

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Speaker 1: I was worried about his feet and his footwork because

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Speaker 1: he dropped a lot of it. He had really bad habits.

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Speaker 1: Taylor doesn't have any. I mean, his feet are solid.

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Speaker 1: The little things that Leon just described all accurate. I

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Speaker 1: agree with every his all sessment. But those are all

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Speaker 1: things you can work on fix. I mean, those are

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Speaker 1: not huge deals. So let me ask you guys a question.

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Speaker 1: Joan Taylor is clearly gonna be the start it right. Yes, yes,

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Speaker 1: it's a done deal. Now you have Josh Well, Cedrico boy,

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Speaker 1: he camera Robinson not practicing yet, do you go ahead

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Speaker 1: and create competition and left tackle with Cedrico Boy Hee

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Speaker 1: and Robinson because the Brianna he is. First of all,

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Speaker 1: Kim Robinson is not practicing yet. Cam Robinson was not

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Speaker 1: having a Banner camp. Banner started the year last year

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Speaker 1: prior to the injury cedric O boyhe hash has talent.

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Speaker 1: I mean, former first rounder, former first rounder who probably

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Speaker 1: would have been great feat if he didn't have an injury.

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Speaker 1: I think of Texas that him for A and M

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Speaker 1: if he didn't set him back. So and you need

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Speaker 1: a tackle maybe for the opener right now, I mean

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Speaker 1: maybe you don't know. I mean so now. Dug Ron

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Speaker 1: did say that they talking about the plan for Cam

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Speaker 1: maybe next week. I think, I think, I think, I

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Speaker 1: think three week three preseason. Should the plan be not

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Speaker 1: like Plan B free agency, but should the plan be

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Speaker 1: create competition exactly, create competition at left hack Cam Robinson battle. Yes, yes, yeah,

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Speaker 1: I agree, I agree. I also agree that I also

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Speaker 1: believe that Cam not Robinson not being a camp right

463
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Speaker 1: now is a little sorry to me because like the

464
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Speaker 1: stuff you just talked about earlier, the fact that he

465
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Speaker 1: came in his technique fundamental is already such bad. He

466
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Speaker 1: is a great athlete. It was his rookie year last

467
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Speaker 1: year it was his second year and he got hurt.

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Speaker 1: Now I'm concerned about that because if it was Tony

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Speaker 1: Baselly when he came back a two thousand and Tony

470
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Speaker 1: doesn't have doesn't need training camp because his skills set

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Speaker 1: I trust on week one. But the camera, obviously, I

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Speaker 1: would just like to see a little bit. I would

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Speaker 1: feel a lot more comfortable if I knew that he

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Speaker 1: was practicing. I agree, Yeah, that's what I'm saying. His

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Speaker 1: foot work really worried me. It's not like his great

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Speaker 1: hand placement, his angles get bad. He he actually uses

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Speaker 1: his athletic ability side to get away for a lot

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Speaker 1: of stuff because he is long. We're watching him right now.

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Speaker 1: He looks good moving there on the TV UM. But

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Speaker 1: I love him. I actually liked him. Tough, tough, tough, tough.

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Speaker 1: But here's the problems. Right now, he's not out there.

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Speaker 1: I think he'll be there for the third preseason game.

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Speaker 1: The way he is a really good athlete. He's a

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Speaker 1: big man, now, really big man. Here's here's the problem.

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Speaker 1: This is why isn't there anymore? Not physical? Didn't handle

486
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Speaker 1: power well and struggled first round, got cut. I've seen

487
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Speaker 1: nothing that changed that. Now if he gets speed, finesse rushers,

488
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Speaker 1: He's gonna be fine because of his length and his

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Speaker 1: foot feetwork for work. I do worry again the power.

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Speaker 1: What happens when these some of these get some of

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Speaker 1: these big defensive ends, you know, and start pressing the

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Speaker 1: edge and powering him like the class. He's gonna get

493
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Speaker 1: plenty of work on that by Josh Wells, same problem,

494
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Speaker 1: and he can't stay healthy. And so left tackle is

495
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Speaker 1: a major issue right now on this team. I'll say

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Speaker 1: this two beat the five positions up front. If I

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Speaker 1: would ask you what what to what like, rank where

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Speaker 1: you feel best from like I feel the most confidence

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Speaker 1: to the least confidence and okay, center Brendon Linder most Okay,

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Speaker 1: well hold on not practicing again. No, I'm just saying

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Speaker 1: over overall big picture, right tackle second number two for yes,

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Speaker 1: rookie right tackle. I'm just telling you from watching left guard,

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Speaker 1: right guard, left tackle. Wow, I'm just telling you right now.

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Speaker 1: I mean watching and what I've seen in camp so

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Speaker 1: far this year, just for this year, my confidence level,

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Speaker 1: that's where I'm putting it about the same way. Send

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Speaker 1: the right tackle, left guard, right guard. I just wish

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Speaker 1: Lendard could stay healthy and play. So are you saying

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Speaker 1: you put right tackle that I'm hearing. I'm not quite

510
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Speaker 1: going there yet, but but I mean, it is a

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Speaker 1: little bit concerning that Lendard hasn't been able to play

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Speaker 1: sixteen games. I mean, this is no it's fair. You

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Speaker 1: expect him to be the guy. Well, here's the thing

514
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Speaker 1: that we've seen them because if if he hasn't been

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Speaker 1: able to play sixteen games. Now, are you in the

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Speaker 1: back of your mind when you're trying to configure this roster,

517
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Speaker 1: are you sitting there saying to yourself, well, we know

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Speaker 1: that Lennard hasn't been able to play sixteen games. So

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Speaker 1: are you thinking, Okay, maybe we need to keep somebody

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Speaker 1: that's a true backup center on this roster because of that? Possibly?

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Speaker 1: I mean, you know they moved Canada to I was

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Speaker 1: just gonna go there exactly. They moved Canada center. I

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Speaker 1: saw a lot doing team period or whatever, the second

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Speaker 1: team stuff. He's getting some repect. See if you can

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Speaker 1: do it, which, by the way, his shotgun snaps, um,

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Speaker 1: we're not. I mean, that's that's like the word. That's

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Speaker 1: like the hardest thing to do. That's wraps. That's just practice.

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Speaker 1: He's not I could be. And I said this to

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534
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Speaker 1: did it progressed back to old habits. I actually think

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Speaker 1: this offensive line might be better with a j Can

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Speaker 1: at center and Linder at guard. And Jeff said this

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538
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Speaker 1: would be a better guard than center. He might be,

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Speaker 1: he might be a better guard than center. But I've

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Speaker 1: always my belief has always been if you have a

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Speaker 1: choice of putting your best player at a guard or

542
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543
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Speaker 1: if you're playing in a bunch of four three teams

544
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Speaker 1: three four, you're right. My point is a j Can

545
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Speaker 1: I thought he I thought he's he's not better than

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Speaker 1: Lender at center. I'm not saying that, but I think

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Speaker 1: he looks solid. And I think the reason they're getting

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Speaker 1: him reps at center is because they want to keep

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552
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Speaker 1: the last several years, he has made this roster because

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Speaker 1: j P Shatdrick, Jeff Logan, Tony was Leon Cercy glad

636
00:34:18,280 --> 00:34:22,160
Speaker 1: you're along with us. Week two of camp scrimmage coming

637
00:34:22,200 --> 00:34:26,439
Speaker 1: up tomorrow morning, seven fifty five am. Scrimmage tomorrow. Yes,

638
00:34:26,800 --> 00:34:29,399
Speaker 1: you know. Why do you know why it's moved early?

639
00:34:29,520 --> 00:34:32,080
Speaker 1: Why is that? Um, I'm not gonna. I don't know

640
00:34:32,120 --> 00:34:34,520
Speaker 1: if I'm a privilege session. You just brought it up.

641
00:34:35,600 --> 00:34:39,479
Speaker 1: I think, and I think Doug's go. Doug is leaving

642
00:34:39,520 --> 00:34:44,280
Speaker 1: tomorrow to go to the Profo ball conduction for Kevin.

643
00:34:44,320 --> 00:34:46,520
Speaker 1: Why because he coached Kevin, and Kevin invited all his

644
00:34:46,600 --> 00:34:49,759
Speaker 1: offensive line coaches. So I think that's the reason, because

645
00:34:49,760 --> 00:34:51,600
Speaker 1: I Doug has to catch a fight to get up there.

646
00:34:52,520 --> 00:34:54,279
Speaker 1: Uh be up there. And if I wasn't supposed to

647
00:34:54,280 --> 00:35:00,440
Speaker 1: say that, I apologize. We'll find out in thirty But

648
00:35:00,480 --> 00:35:02,680
Speaker 1: I figured people see him up there, so it'll be

649
00:35:02,719 --> 00:35:06,080
Speaker 1: like knowing that he's there. I think. Um, I believe

650
00:35:06,080 --> 00:35:08,560
Speaker 1: the team's off Saturday anyway. Yeah, they're off set. That's why. Yeah,

651
00:35:08,560 --> 00:35:12,439
Speaker 1: they're off Saturday. So we're seven. I'm glad you guys

652
00:35:12,440 --> 00:35:16,760
Speaker 1: mentioned that I had no idea. Yeah, right and early

653
00:35:17,280 --> 00:35:20,560
Speaker 1: you're bringing breakfast logs that I didn't know that now

654
00:35:20,560 --> 00:35:23,640
Speaker 1: you know? Now you know. Uh, we we heard the

655
00:35:23,640 --> 00:35:26,320
Speaker 1: news there for about Quincy Williams four to six weeks.

656
00:35:26,520 --> 00:35:28,480
Speaker 1: There's another Jaguars player that limped off today, and that

657
00:35:28,560 --> 00:35:31,520
Speaker 1: was Josh Oliver, the rookie tight end. There's no official

658
00:35:31,560 --> 00:35:33,360
Speaker 1: news on that yet. We'll hear from Doug Maron and

659
00:35:33,400 --> 00:35:35,000
Speaker 1: the Doug Marone Show coming up at the top of

660
00:35:35,000 --> 00:35:36,560
Speaker 1: the hour. We'll ask him about it and see what

661
00:35:36,600 --> 00:35:39,960
Speaker 1: he has to say. But this tight end room, you know,

662
00:35:39,960 --> 00:35:41,840
Speaker 1: there's a lot of new faces in there. Jeff Swain,

663
00:35:42,120 --> 00:35:46,240
Speaker 1: free agent guy from Dallas. Oliver was looking very good.

664
00:35:46,280 --> 00:35:49,880
Speaker 1: We'll see the status of him moving forward here after that.

665
00:35:50,160 --> 00:35:52,200
Speaker 1: Where's this tight end room for you guys? I can

666
00:35:52,239 --> 00:35:54,160
Speaker 1: I can let me let me say who the best

667
00:35:54,320 --> 00:35:58,719
Speaker 1: why tight end end line tight end, because there's any

668
00:35:59,080 --> 00:36:00,920
Speaker 1: you have an F, you have why and in some

669
00:36:00,960 --> 00:36:03,200
Speaker 1: cases we have a tight end it's called an H.

670
00:36:04,360 --> 00:36:07,520
Speaker 1: So why is the guy that lines up right next

671
00:36:07,560 --> 00:36:10,200
Speaker 1: to the offensive tackle on the line of scrimage, and

672
00:36:10,360 --> 00:36:12,120
Speaker 1: F is a guy that can be a move guy.

673
00:36:12,200 --> 00:36:14,719
Speaker 1: He's a wing, he's emotional lot and H is a

674
00:36:14,719 --> 00:36:16,480
Speaker 1: guy that can be also a move guy in the

675
00:36:16,520 --> 00:36:20,240
Speaker 1: backfields like a fullback. Anyway, I think the best true

676
00:36:20,320 --> 00:36:23,440
Speaker 1: why that's for me in training camp so far is

677
00:36:23,480 --> 00:36:27,839
Speaker 1: this rookie from Tulane That is Charles Jones who's about

678
00:36:27,840 --> 00:36:31,879
Speaker 1: two hundred fifty five pounds, and he's shown so far

679
00:36:32,360 --> 00:36:35,720
Speaker 1: he's the best blocking tight end of the group. Yeah

680
00:36:36,200 --> 00:36:40,640
Speaker 1: blocking ye, not overall type ye. Swain is the most

681
00:36:40,719 --> 00:36:44,399
Speaker 1: is the most best all around typle Yes. Watching him move,

682
00:36:45,280 --> 00:36:48,880
Speaker 1: he's a he's a above average. He's a good blocker,

683
00:36:49,080 --> 00:36:52,640
Speaker 1: not great. H. He's an adequate blocker and he uses

684
00:36:52,680 --> 00:36:55,000
Speaker 1: his body very well. Swain in the passing game. We're

685
00:36:55,000 --> 00:36:56,920
Speaker 1: looking at the rookie from Tulane right now. Did you

686
00:36:56,960 --> 00:37:01,080
Speaker 1: see they had two touchdown catching today's practice Jones? Yeah,

687
00:37:01,120 --> 00:37:03,640
Speaker 1: one in the red area and one of them was

688
00:37:03,640 --> 00:37:06,080
Speaker 1: a tough catch contested cats that he made. The other

689
00:37:06,080 --> 00:37:07,960
Speaker 1: one was kind of an easy catch. But what has

690
00:37:08,000 --> 00:37:11,520
Speaker 1: impressed me so far with him is that his ability

691
00:37:11,680 --> 00:37:15,839
Speaker 1: to block. He has been excellent as a blocker so far.

692
00:37:16,280 --> 00:37:20,279
Speaker 1: Usually rookies come in and and they're kind of overwhelmed

693
00:37:20,400 --> 00:37:22,759
Speaker 1: with the physical size and the competitive nature of being

694
00:37:22,760 --> 00:37:26,080
Speaker 1: a blocker. As a tight end, it takes time. He

695
00:37:26,200 --> 00:37:29,480
Speaker 1: doesn't seem to have an adjustment period at all. Could

696
00:37:29,520 --> 00:37:32,920
Speaker 1: there be guys, could there'll be three new let's say

697
00:37:32,960 --> 00:37:36,120
Speaker 1: they keep three tight ends, maybe four as one of

698
00:37:36,160 --> 00:37:41,239
Speaker 1: the fullback. Uh, even if there's four, could there be

699
00:37:41,280 --> 00:37:44,400
Speaker 1: four completely new tight ends? Me? Could the tight end

700
00:37:44,480 --> 00:37:51,040
Speaker 1: room be void of anyone else on the roster is

701
00:37:51,080 --> 00:37:54,680
Speaker 1: going to make it? And then this young kid he's

702
00:37:54,680 --> 00:37:57,080
Speaker 1: blocking and continues block like he's doing, He's gonna make it.

703
00:37:58,000 --> 00:38:00,920
Speaker 1: So now you've got three maybe on the outside looking

704
00:38:00,960 --> 00:38:04,879
Speaker 1: in is Kayak and O'Shaughnessy. Yeah, now'n ask you a question.

705
00:38:05,000 --> 00:38:07,239
Speaker 1: Has has you know we all know Nick Foles from

706
00:38:07,239 --> 00:38:09,160
Speaker 1: his days with the Eagles he loves tight ends. Now,

707
00:38:09,160 --> 00:38:11,799
Speaker 1: has he gotten a rapport within these guys that he

708
00:38:11,800 --> 00:38:15,600
Speaker 1: feels comfortable enough to think? Yeah? I don't think there's

709
00:38:15,640 --> 00:38:17,840
Speaker 1: any one guy who stood out. I think Swain's the

710
00:38:17,880 --> 00:38:20,640
Speaker 1: guy who has stood up most of me watching the connection,

711
00:38:20,719 --> 00:38:23,560
Speaker 1: especially in the red red area with Nick Foles. But

712
00:38:23,600 --> 00:38:27,520
Speaker 1: I think that Josh oliver injury really hurts is because

713
00:38:27,960 --> 00:38:30,239
Speaker 1: if you watch Nick Foles, he likes that f the

714
00:38:30,239 --> 00:38:32,520
Speaker 1: guy who can get down the seams, stretched the middle

715
00:38:32,520 --> 00:38:35,160
Speaker 1: of the field of Zach ERT's type of player, and

716
00:38:35,200 --> 00:38:38,680
Speaker 1: I think that's what they're hoping for from Josh Oliver

717
00:38:39,160 --> 00:38:43,720
Speaker 1: to be that move tight end, work the seams, work

718
00:38:43,760 --> 00:38:46,040
Speaker 1: in space, a bigger body that Nick Foles is really

719
00:38:46,040 --> 00:38:48,479
Speaker 1: comfortable with. So I think that's where that really does hurt.

720
00:38:49,000 --> 00:38:51,719
Speaker 1: He's not he's not He's not a blocker. Oh No,

721
00:38:52,080 --> 00:38:58,040
Speaker 1: He's a move guy. He's a guy with Jones, right.

722
00:38:58,680 --> 00:39:01,160
Speaker 1: I mean, that's gonna be the hard thankful young tiding

723
00:39:01,239 --> 00:39:05,040
Speaker 1: to come in, especially against defensive ends. It's set the edge,

724
00:39:05,440 --> 00:39:10,120
Speaker 1: you know, set the edge, especially over the exactly an

725
00:39:10,360 --> 00:39:12,560
Speaker 1: if he said good and now if he had opportunities

726
00:39:12,600 --> 00:39:14,880
Speaker 1: at the age on Calais, I mean, that's that's a

727
00:39:14,880 --> 00:39:23,680
Speaker 1: pretty good job. Because I haven't seen him around. Nobody sits.

728
00:39:28,880 --> 00:39:31,640
Speaker 1: It's amazing that the Charles Jones story. He was undrafted,

729
00:39:31,960 --> 00:39:35,040
Speaker 1: he tried out during rookie minicamp for this team. He

730
00:39:35,080 --> 00:39:37,680
Speaker 1: wasn't even on the team, and they signed him after

731
00:39:37,800 --> 00:39:40,640
Speaker 1: the three day rookie mini which is amazing, so that

732
00:39:40,680 --> 00:39:43,680
Speaker 1: nobody picked him up. Right now, he's one of my

733
00:39:43,760 --> 00:39:48,040
Speaker 1: two hidden gems. Who's your other? Kay? Later? Oh, let's

734
00:39:48,840 --> 00:39:50,320
Speaker 1: I didn't see that. How much later? I don't know,

735
00:39:51,840 --> 00:39:54,520
Speaker 1: run down, we only got twenty minutes. How much later

736
00:39:54,560 --> 00:39:56,479
Speaker 1: we're going. We know what. Let's get to it. Let's

737
00:39:56,480 --> 00:39:59,799
Speaker 1: get to it now. Since you brought it up, this

738
00:40:00,600 --> 00:40:04,480
Speaker 1: Jim Charles Jones from Tulane undrafted taught him out of

739
00:40:04,520 --> 00:40:08,480
Speaker 1: a rookie. He's apparently the best tight end on the roster.

740
00:40:08,680 --> 00:40:10,920
Speaker 1: He's not WHOA, he's not the best tight end. He

741
00:40:10,920 --> 00:40:14,359
Speaker 1: said he's the bucks blocking best. He's not the best

742
00:40:14,360 --> 00:40:19,040
Speaker 1: tight end of the roster. Not my opinion. Other we're

743
00:40:19,120 --> 00:40:22,560
Speaker 1: the highly anticipated Jeff Loguman's second hidden Jim and I

744
00:40:22,600 --> 00:40:24,680
Speaker 1: don't want to make and I don't know exactly how

745
00:40:24,680 --> 00:40:27,680
Speaker 1: to pronounce his first name is Tyree or is it tyre?

746
00:40:27,800 --> 00:40:32,960
Speaker 1: It's Tyree Tyree Brady the rookie from Marshall Wide receiver

747
00:40:33,160 --> 00:40:35,480
Speaker 1: number nineteen, number nineteen, which a lot of times we've

748
00:40:35,520 --> 00:40:39,080
Speaker 1: probably confused him with Chris Connelly being eighteen. We go, hey,

749
00:40:39,120 --> 00:40:40,799
Speaker 1: that was a nice job by Connelly, and you look

750
00:40:40,840 --> 00:40:44,160
Speaker 1: and you go, wait a minute, that's nineteen. And he's

751
00:40:44,160 --> 00:40:48,960
Speaker 1: got size six three about two ten. He's got great hands,

752
00:40:49,600 --> 00:40:55,280
Speaker 1: he has uh catch radius. Okay, Tony, use that term again.

753
00:40:55,440 --> 00:40:57,759
Speaker 1: You care to explain it again. I'm not explaining again

754
00:40:57,800 --> 00:41:01,000
Speaker 1: because you keep on using terms you're talking except for us.

755
00:41:01,680 --> 00:41:03,239
Speaker 1: But I mean, how many times have you seen him

756
00:41:03,280 --> 00:41:05,600
Speaker 1: make a catch? A lot? I mean he's making a

757
00:41:05,600 --> 00:41:08,080
Speaker 1: lot of catches. So when the quarterbacks are thrown his way,

758
00:41:08,200 --> 00:41:10,880
Speaker 1: that means that they feel good about him and uh

759
00:41:11,239 --> 00:41:13,520
Speaker 1: their room on the roster for him. Well, I don't know.

760
00:41:13,600 --> 00:41:15,239
Speaker 1: I mean he's got to be able to play special teams.

761
00:41:15,239 --> 00:41:17,800
Speaker 1: He got the size to the one knock on him

762
00:41:17,920 --> 00:41:22,040
Speaker 1: when obviously coming out of college was his forty time,

763
00:41:22,320 --> 00:41:24,719
Speaker 1: which was like a fourth seven. That is pro day,

764
00:41:25,080 --> 00:41:28,360
Speaker 1: and so wide receivers that run for seven don't attract

765
00:41:28,360 --> 00:41:30,640
Speaker 1: a lot of attention. That's probably why he went undrafted,

766
00:41:31,120 --> 00:41:34,080
Speaker 1: because wide receivers run for seven aren't gonna be a

767
00:41:34,160 --> 00:41:37,279
Speaker 1: premium need. I mean, you need guys that can run

768
00:41:37,680 --> 00:41:41,080
Speaker 1: like Sims from West Virginia. Who do you get drafted either?

769
00:41:41,120 --> 00:41:43,160
Speaker 1: Who didn't get drafted either? But he didn't get drafted

770
00:41:43,160 --> 00:41:45,839
Speaker 1: because he's got issues off the field. Ran a four

771
00:41:45,960 --> 00:41:49,239
Speaker 1: three five at the combine. Chris, he was drafted and

772
00:41:49,840 --> 00:41:53,600
Speaker 1: and he's big. Yes, So anyway, those two guys, I

773
00:41:53,680 --> 00:41:57,879
Speaker 1: like him. I like hidden Jeff. Two guys to keep

774
00:41:57,920 --> 00:41:59,759
Speaker 1: an eye. And I looked, the likes haven't come on yet,

775
00:42:00,400 --> 00:42:03,320
Speaker 1: so let's kind of put the cold. You're hitting gems

776
00:42:03,440 --> 00:42:07,160
Speaker 1: change over the weeks. I didn't. Yeah, I will say,

777
00:42:07,200 --> 00:42:09,879
Speaker 1: And you probably remember this guy. He might hide them again.

778
00:42:09,960 --> 00:42:14,120
Speaker 1: And you remember the wide receiver from Hawaii a few

779
00:42:14,160 --> 00:42:17,879
Speaker 1: years ago. That was I'm trying to remember his name.

780
00:42:18,000 --> 00:42:21,680
Speaker 1: He was a shorter wide receiver University of Hawaii. He

781
00:42:21,760 --> 00:42:26,120
Speaker 1: was going to be their punt return fantastic. What was

782
00:42:26,160 --> 00:42:29,520
Speaker 1: his name is probably seven years ago? Six seven years ago,

783
00:42:29,600 --> 00:42:39,239
Speaker 1: that's right, Chad Owens, Chad Owens. Okay, look, fantastic, fantastic,

784
00:42:39,600 --> 00:42:42,520
Speaker 1: And then I'll never forget. It was Indianapolis. It was

785
00:42:42,560 --> 00:42:45,879
Speaker 1: the opening game at Indianapolis. He wasn't on the roster week,

786
00:42:46,719 --> 00:42:49,960
Speaker 1: and I remember watching him in pregame warm up. In

787
00:42:50,080 --> 00:42:55,560
Speaker 1: his eyes leon or were silver dollars, and he was

788
00:42:55,680 --> 00:42:59,520
Speaker 1: dropping everything and he was sweating, and it just it

789
00:42:59,640 --> 00:43:03,319
Speaker 1: just the lights got too bright. So the lights got

790
00:43:03,400 --> 00:43:05,480
Speaker 1: of come on. And that was six and oh seven.

791
00:43:05,480 --> 00:43:11,359
Speaker 1: It wasn't like six years ago. Time flies, you're having fun,

792
00:43:12,520 --> 00:43:16,480
Speaker 1: Yes it does. We promised we would touch on quarterbacks

793
00:43:16,480 --> 00:43:19,640
Speaker 1: as well in this segment, and not Nick Foles there,

794
00:43:19,680 --> 00:43:22,720
Speaker 1: the backup quarterback situated. When you say we you promised,

795
00:43:22,719 --> 00:43:26,400
Speaker 1: none of us did so, Okay, Jeff and Jeff and

796
00:43:26,440 --> 00:43:29,440
Speaker 1: I differ here, And let me just say the comment

797
00:43:29,480 --> 00:43:31,799
Speaker 1: that why we're talking about this because I texted it

798
00:43:31,840 --> 00:43:33,359
Speaker 1: to you this morning. I said, we need to talk

799
00:43:33,400 --> 00:43:37,239
Speaker 1: about this today because after yesterday's practice, it did not

800
00:43:37,400 --> 00:43:40,480
Speaker 1: look like there was a quarterback on this roster that

801
00:43:40,680 --> 00:43:44,720
Speaker 1: was any good besides Nick Foles. Agree or disagree yesterday's practice,

802
00:43:44,760 --> 00:43:50,320
Speaker 1: L Yeah, I was there. I didn't go yesterday judgments

803
00:43:50,400 --> 00:43:54,640
Speaker 1: after one day. Look, I mean that's what we do judgment.

804
00:43:54,920 --> 00:43:59,200
Speaker 1: Jeff's like, that's why the next week, well, different hidden gems.

805
00:43:59,440 --> 00:44:01,279
Speaker 1: I'll throw them back. I got new ones to say

806
00:44:01,320 --> 00:44:03,759
Speaker 1: that we shouldn't make a judgment after one. You want

807
00:44:03,760 --> 00:44:08,480
Speaker 1: to cut the roster. I don't. I'm the most rational

808
00:44:08,560 --> 00:44:10,719
Speaker 1: person on this show. I'm gonna have some knee jerk

809
00:44:10,800 --> 00:44:12,719
Speaker 1: reactions tonight when we have him on the TV. She

810
00:44:12,920 --> 00:44:17,839
Speaker 1: got television tonight. But the quarterbacks were not They weren't good. Yes,

811
00:44:17,880 --> 00:44:21,839
Speaker 1: they like they was shot putting what you want. I'm

812
00:44:23,320 --> 00:44:26,640
Speaker 1: but I'll say this, and I might be the minority here.

813
00:44:26,880 --> 00:44:32,040
Speaker 1: I actually think gardnerment shoot not only will be, but

814
00:44:32,200 --> 00:44:34,920
Speaker 1: can be because I think he is the backup arter.

815
00:44:35,000 --> 00:44:37,600
Speaker 1: He's the guy, but I think he's gonna be a

816
00:44:38,080 --> 00:44:41,120
Speaker 1: fine backup. You don't listen. You don't want your backup

817
00:44:41,160 --> 00:44:43,360
Speaker 1: ever to start unless you back up. He's Nick Foles

818
00:44:43,560 --> 00:44:45,719
Speaker 1: and you're the Eagles. Tell me how many guys, how

819
00:44:45,719 --> 00:44:48,759
Speaker 1: many teams this league at backups that you want to

820
00:44:48,840 --> 00:44:51,919
Speaker 1: be the starter? The Colts doing Jacoby Brissette. You're fine

821
00:44:51,920 --> 00:44:54,319
Speaker 1: with you. That's just because you love Jacoby Brisette. Okay,

822
00:44:54,480 --> 00:44:56,600
Speaker 1: You're like the only one that loves him. That's not accurate.

823
00:44:57,719 --> 00:45:00,719
Speaker 1: That's not accurate. A a lot of people, like Jobeper said,

824
00:45:01,640 --> 00:45:05,359
Speaker 1: but I think Gordon Gardner minshe it's fine. Gardener issue

825
00:45:05,480 --> 00:45:06,960
Speaker 1: is going to be fine. He's I thought he had

826
00:45:06,960 --> 00:45:10,319
Speaker 1: a great practice today. He I mean, he has one

827
00:45:10,400 --> 00:45:12,879
Speaker 1: bad practice and Jeff wants to trade. No, it wasn't

828
00:45:13,560 --> 00:45:16,480
Speaker 1: backup quarterback, so we can find another backup court. Where

829
00:45:16,480 --> 00:45:21,400
Speaker 1: are you gonna find their backup quarterback out there? I mean,

830
00:45:21,440 --> 00:45:24,480
Speaker 1: they're not out there, there's not They're all signed some

831
00:45:24,600 --> 00:45:26,760
Speaker 1: Wait a minute, you think every quarterback around the league

832
00:45:26,840 --> 00:45:28,920
Speaker 1: that that's contending for a job is going to be

833
00:45:28,960 --> 00:45:31,239
Speaker 1: on a roster automatically, there's gonna be there will be

834
00:45:31,280 --> 00:45:34,360
Speaker 1: available quarterbacks. There's gonna be no one who's a backup

835
00:45:34,480 --> 00:45:38,560
Speaker 1: quarterback that is that is cut from a football team

836
00:45:38,560 --> 00:45:41,600
Speaker 1: that is worth signing after the last cuts. That's gonna

837
00:45:41,600 --> 00:45:44,960
Speaker 1: be better than Gardner totally disagree that. Okay, we'll debate it,

838
00:45:44,960 --> 00:45:48,319
Speaker 1: then we'll talk about who's available. We're fine, we'll do

839
00:45:48,320 --> 00:45:50,959
Speaker 1: it right here on this show. Right here. They write

840
00:45:51,000 --> 00:45:59,600
Speaker 1: write it down, He's write it down. I'm just down here. Remember,

841
00:45:59,640 --> 00:46:06,240
Speaker 1: So we come back to Joe agrees with Jeff start

842
00:46:06,280 --> 00:46:09,640
Speaker 1: to list. Now, that's fantastic. Let's come back in a

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Speaker 1: I salute you, and I also want to thank you

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Speaker 1: for naming me to the All Team. It's a privilege

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Speaker 1: an honor to be alongside twenty four other men related

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Speaker 1: Now to the Fred Taylor stuff. Today, it blew up

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Speaker 1: on social media this yesterday, I guess when the number

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Speaker 1: two of the all twenty five team was named, and

917
00:50:52,440 --> 00:50:56,239
Speaker 1: that was Fred Taylor. That left either Tony Basselli or

918
00:50:56,239 --> 00:50:58,719
Speaker 1: Harry Coleen is number one. We're not sure what it

919
00:50:58,800 --> 00:51:02,560
Speaker 1: was gonna be, but it ended up being Tony Basselli. Um,

920
00:51:02,960 --> 00:51:10,279
Speaker 1: Fred about that guy? Just so? Fred went on social media.

921
00:51:10,320 --> 00:51:11,719
Speaker 1: We have a couple of tweets if you're watching on

922
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Speaker 1: Jaguars dot com. The first one on the top is

923
00:51:14,400 --> 00:51:16,640
Speaker 1: I'm not sure who voted, but they missed. What were

924
00:51:16,640 --> 00:51:19,360
Speaker 1: you guys doing for the eleven years I carried the team?

925
00:51:19,719 --> 00:51:22,360
Speaker 1: One day, someone other than me will recognize how valuable

926
00:51:22,360 --> 00:51:24,680
Speaker 1: I was. I did something only twenty one players in

927
00:51:24,719 --> 00:51:27,319
Speaker 1: history of the game done at my position. Hashtag wa

928
00:51:27,400 --> 00:51:30,440
Speaker 1: a joke. He went on for a few other tweets

929
00:51:30,480 --> 00:51:33,879
Speaker 1: and kept going about his case and statistics and this

930
00:51:33,960 --> 00:51:36,960
Speaker 1: and that, and then later this was today. In fact,

931
00:51:37,000 --> 00:51:40,120
Speaker 1: about ten thirty this morning, I texted Baselly congratulated him

932
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Speaker 1: on being selected number one, and I wished him well

933
00:51:41,800 --> 00:51:44,200
Speaker 1: in a possible Hall of fame. Not I've always admired

934
00:51:44,239 --> 00:51:46,200
Speaker 1: him as a friend, teammate, and great husband and father.

935
00:51:46,280 --> 00:51:49,360
Speaker 1: That's all that really matters. He gets it hashtag. The

936
00:51:49,440 --> 00:51:53,719
Speaker 1: voters didn't, so he's got some beef with the Jacksonville

937
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Speaker 1: media and the folks that voted on this top twenty

938
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Speaker 1: five list. It sounds like, guys, I heard that Fred

939
00:51:59,400 --> 00:52:03,080
Speaker 1: had tweeted something, and uh, and I didn't see it

940
00:52:03,640 --> 00:52:08,840
Speaker 1: actually until today. And then at practice today somebody showed

941
00:52:08,840 --> 00:52:13,040
Speaker 1: me the tweets and I went, somebody hacked Fred's Twitter.

942
00:52:14,520 --> 00:52:17,240
Speaker 1: I mean, seriously, I really thought that somebody hacked Fred's

943
00:52:17,239 --> 00:52:23,359
Speaker 1: Twitter account. I didn't expect Fred to say something like that.

944
00:52:23,920 --> 00:52:27,200
Speaker 1: You never argue your own case for your own greatness.

945
00:52:27,320 --> 00:52:29,920
Speaker 1: You don't do that. And that's kind of what Fred

946
00:52:30,000 --> 00:52:34,359
Speaker 1: was doing. And I was very surprised by that and

947
00:52:34,400 --> 00:52:36,920
Speaker 1: what he should have responded vibes, because look at this

948
00:52:37,000 --> 00:52:41,960
Speaker 1: is a subjective list. You can take Tony and put

949
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Speaker 1: him at two, and put Jimmy at one and Fred

950
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Speaker 1: at three, or Fred at too, Jimmy at one, Fred

951
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Speaker 1: to three, or mix it up, Fred at one, Jimmy

952
00:52:50,560 --> 00:52:54,000
Speaker 1: at two. What you like? You know clearly the three

953
00:52:54,000 --> 00:52:58,600
Speaker 1: greatest players in Jaguar's history, and to tweet about it

954
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Speaker 1: being made national headlines to where Fred is upset with

955
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Speaker 1: the Jaguars for not making him number one. It just

956
00:53:05,040 --> 00:53:07,239
Speaker 1: didn't make Fred look very good. I'm sorry, Fred, but

957
00:53:07,480 --> 00:53:12,040
Speaker 1: that's just not that's not the way you're nu. Yeah,

958
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Speaker 1: I got with that, but I ain't going on Twitter,

959
00:53:15,400 --> 00:53:16,760
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. I ain't going on Twitter

960
00:53:16,760 --> 00:53:20,600
Speaker 1: with it. But listen the top three. Listen there there's

961
00:53:20,600 --> 00:53:24,160
Speaker 1: no disparity, disparity as far as greatness go. All those

962
00:53:24,200 --> 00:53:28,040
Speaker 1: guys interchangeably could have been number one. I personally believe

963
00:53:28,080 --> 00:53:32,719
Speaker 1: Tony should be number one. I'm not being blast. I've

964
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Speaker 1: seen the man. I've seen the man knowledge defensive, all right, okay,

965
00:53:36,719 --> 00:53:40,400
Speaker 1: so but I've also seen Fred Taylor, you know, you know,

966
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Speaker 1: get get a glim of daylight and take it to

967
00:53:43,920 --> 00:53:47,680
Speaker 1: and then I've also seen DBS be scared of Jimmy Smith.

968
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Speaker 1: So I mean those three guys, I mean, that's just

969
00:53:50,200 --> 00:53:53,759
Speaker 1: levels of greatness. You're interchangeable. I was very surprised that

970
00:53:53,760 --> 00:53:56,080
Speaker 1: that Jimmy because Jimmy has always been a very private

971
00:53:56,120 --> 00:53:59,080
Speaker 1: person and he really didn't same thing. But I also

972
00:53:59,160 --> 00:54:02,880
Speaker 1: understand this too about you know, we were competitors once,

973
00:54:03,600 --> 00:54:06,160
Speaker 1: you know, Ricky, Bobby, if you're not first last, maybe

974
00:54:06,160 --> 00:54:09,040
Speaker 1: he took that first, you know, So I mean, but listen,

975
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Speaker 1: everybody that's been on that list, but the grade I mean,

976
00:54:14,360 --> 00:54:16,200
Speaker 1: I ssarly believe that you should have been on the left.

977
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Speaker 1: A couple of guys. It was the next you know, Brian,

978
00:54:23,239 --> 00:54:25,200
Speaker 1: when Brian Barker texts man told me that he was,

979
00:54:28,000 --> 00:54:29,680
Speaker 1: I told Brian Barker, I couldn't believe it wasn't on

980
00:54:29,680 --> 00:54:31,719
Speaker 1: the last say, sir, I was twenty six. I sail

981
00:54:31,880 --> 00:54:36,759
Speaker 1: can understand. But you know, um, all those guys they

982
00:54:36,800 --> 00:54:38,799
Speaker 1: were on the list. Some of the guys who were

983
00:54:38,800 --> 00:54:41,120
Speaker 1: on the list, you know, help you know, build this

984
00:54:41,160 --> 00:54:43,719
Speaker 1: franchise to what it was. I mean, this franchise was

985
00:54:43,719 --> 00:54:47,200
Speaker 1: a baby at one in particular time. We fed it.

986
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Speaker 1: It crawled and walked and ran into came a franchise

987
00:54:51,520 --> 00:54:54,000
Speaker 1: that's one of the elites. And less than five to

988
00:54:54,040 --> 00:54:56,319
Speaker 1: seven years. You know what I'm saying. So you know,

989
00:54:57,080 --> 00:55:01,320
Speaker 1: I love all you guys. One thing. I love Fred, okay,

990
00:55:01,360 --> 00:55:07,480
Speaker 1: but Tony, you, Jimmy, not Jimmy, Fred, not Fred. None

991
00:55:07,480 --> 00:55:11,359
Speaker 1: of the three of you individually carried I would agree

992
00:55:11,360 --> 00:55:17,200
Speaker 1: with that absolutely. So you're number one, number one. It's

993
00:55:17,200 --> 00:55:19,759
Speaker 1: a huge honor. Thank you the voters and everything else.

994
00:55:19,760 --> 00:55:21,680
Speaker 1: And I didn't vote for you. I'm glad I didn't

995
00:55:21,719 --> 00:55:25,480
Speaker 1: vote for you either, didn't got a vote. Uh, it's

996
00:55:25,480 --> 00:55:28,360
Speaker 1: a huge honor. And like Wenna, Jeff said, great, UH

997
00:55:28,560 --> 00:55:31,160
Speaker 1: said it best. Like there's a bunch of guys who

998
00:55:31,200 --> 00:55:33,480
Speaker 1: played high levels in this team to be honored as

999
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Speaker 1: the top guy. Obviously we're competitors. It's cool. Um, I'll

1000
00:55:39,160 --> 00:55:41,680
Speaker 1: just say this, like, especially the position I played, and

1001
00:55:41,719 --> 00:55:44,520
Speaker 1: I think all of us, none of us carried the team.

1002
00:55:44,640 --> 00:55:46,040
Speaker 1: We were all part of it when we were good.

1003
00:55:46,160 --> 00:55:47,680
Speaker 1: Is because we had a lot of good players. We

1004
00:55:47,719 --> 00:55:50,560
Speaker 1: have this conversation today. I mean, Leon was the best

1005
00:55:50,640 --> 00:55:53,720
Speaker 1: right tackle in football, Mark was multiple time pro bowler,

1006
00:55:53,920 --> 00:55:56,040
Speaker 1: Freddie T was Freddie T. Jimmy was the best. Kim

1007
00:55:56,080 --> 00:55:59,000
Speaker 1: mcart everyone forgets about. Keenan was a pro bowler and

1008
00:55:59,200 --> 00:56:04,799
Speaker 1: had you know, I interviewed him today. It's on the

1009
00:56:04,840 --> 00:56:08,600
Speaker 1: website today and he is angry. But I mean, you

1010
00:56:08,640 --> 00:56:12,080
Speaker 1: go down the list. We're not surprised about angry. But

1011
00:56:12,280 --> 00:56:14,959
Speaker 1: I'll just say this, So it's a huge honor. One

1012
00:56:15,400 --> 00:56:17,719
Speaker 1: is this everyone needs no listening. Fred and I are good.

1013
00:56:17,880 --> 00:56:21,719
Speaker 1: Fred and I texts there's no animals, no beef. Fred

1014
00:56:21,719 --> 00:56:23,359
Speaker 1: and I are good. I love freddie t I told

1015
00:56:23,440 --> 00:56:26,879
Speaker 1: him that, so we're good to His highlights are way

1016
00:56:26,920 --> 00:56:29,240
Speaker 1: better than mine. I mean, they're way more fun to watch.

1017
00:56:29,560 --> 00:56:35,600
Speaker 1: I mean, and three, it's it's fun. It's a it's

1018
00:56:35,600 --> 00:56:38,760
Speaker 1: cool that there's is a debate and it's no different.

1019
00:56:38,920 --> 00:56:40,719
Speaker 1: And I get what and I said this to that.

1020
00:56:40,840 --> 00:56:43,200
Speaker 1: I get in a sense what Fred how he feels

1021
00:56:43,600 --> 00:56:44,879
Speaker 1: the last couple of years in the Hall of Fame.

1022
00:56:44,880 --> 00:56:46,359
Speaker 1: When you like I get phone call and says, oh

1023
00:56:46,360 --> 00:56:48,960
Speaker 1: you were six, You're like you're one spot away. I

1024
00:56:49,000 --> 00:56:54,600
Speaker 1: mean like you're mad, Like wait a second, you feel slighted. Um. Now,

1025
00:56:54,640 --> 00:56:56,759
Speaker 1: maybe we shouldn't feel that way, but we're competitors. Like

1026
00:56:56,880 --> 00:57:01,080
Speaker 1: Leon said, Um, I wish Fred wouldn't have tweet it

1027
00:57:01,080 --> 00:57:02,920
Speaker 1: because it doesn't help because at the end of the

1028
00:57:03,000 --> 00:57:05,880
Speaker 1: day only wait wait, wait, minuta write this down to

1029
00:57:07,920 --> 00:57:16,640
Speaker 1: what about tweet? I would know the only reason, the

1030
00:57:16,960 --> 00:57:20,760
Speaker 1: reason why I had no like Fred we text. I'm

1031
00:57:20,800 --> 00:57:24,080
Speaker 1: fine with it, but what I didn't like he tweeted.

1032
00:57:24,120 --> 00:57:25,720
Speaker 1: It becomes a national story and then you have pro

1033
00:57:25,800 --> 00:57:32,680
Speaker 1: football talk taking shots at him. Why away from his greatness? Yeah,

1034
00:57:32,880 --> 00:57:35,200
Speaker 1: because he's a great back. That's what bothered me. It's like,

1035
00:57:35,240 --> 00:57:36,919
Speaker 1: come on, man, why why are we doing this? Because

1036
00:57:36,920 --> 00:57:39,640
Speaker 1: it takes away from the whole thing made the comment.

1037
00:57:39,720 --> 00:57:41,720
Speaker 1: Then as you get the national media taking shots at him,

1038
00:57:42,560 --> 00:57:44,160
Speaker 1: that's ridiculous. I don't like that. I don't want to

1039
00:57:44,160 --> 00:57:50,360
Speaker 1: see years there's multiple the All fifty team, that there's

1040
00:57:50,440 --> 00:57:53,680
Speaker 1: multiple people that are in the argument to replace I

1041
00:57:53,720 --> 00:57:58,720
Speaker 1: hope so fred Tony and Jimmy. If I'm hopefully there's

1042
00:57:59,000 --> 00:58:02,040
Speaker 1: a quarterback or two in there. If I'm twenty years

1043
00:58:02,080 --> 00:58:04,280
Speaker 1: now with the All fifty team, I'm still number one.

1044
00:58:04,320 --> 00:58:08,640
Speaker 1: We got problems, we got issues. He was like that,

1045
00:58:08,920 --> 00:58:11,200
Speaker 1: I don't want that. I mean, we have issues. I

1046
00:58:11,240 --> 00:58:13,800
Speaker 1: mean I love to be number one, but we need

1047
00:58:13,840 --> 00:58:18,520
Speaker 1: like we need like four or five guys. They're great.

1048
00:58:18,880 --> 00:58:21,960
Speaker 1: So it's fun. It's been actually on Jeff. I know

1049
00:58:22,040 --> 00:58:24,480
Speaker 1: you probably both feel the same way. It was a

1050
00:58:24,520 --> 00:58:27,840
Speaker 1: fun thing. My favorite part about it is you know,

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Speaker 1: the reminisced and go back and talk about the games

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Speaker 1: and the players and like appreciate all that happened, and

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Speaker 1: you could debate and a lot of guys thought they

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Speaker 1: should be higher, and rightfully so, because they were all

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Speaker 1: great players are competitive and they feel like what they

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Speaker 1: did was at the highest level. Alright, so case close,

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Speaker 1: let me just add one thing and folks at quick,

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Speaker 1: if you want to see some really cool highlights of

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Speaker 1: all of the guys that made the top twenty five,

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Speaker 1: go to Jaguars dot com because it is cool the

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Speaker 1: packages they put. He did a great job. First of all.

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Speaker 1: It's fun, it's fun to reminisce and it brings back

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Speaker 1: a lot of great The team did great and Jeff,

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Speaker 1: we're gonna be talking about it tonight. I'll be on

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Speaker 1: the TV show seven Jaguar. We're looking at after I

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Speaker 1: mean Clays. I'm sorry, this will be the highest rated show.

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Speaker 1: We'll see you after that. Gotta go. Doug Moron show

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Speaker 1: coming up next. Thanks for watching and listening to Jaguars

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Speaker 1: Happy Hour on the Jaguars Digital Network.