WEBVTT - Austin Ekeler

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<v Speaker 1>This is cut to It with Steve Smith Senior at

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<v Speaker 1>production of The Black Effect and I Heart Radio. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>Steve Smith Senior and I'm and this is cut to it.

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<v Speaker 1>Good do it, Good do it. They're getting down to

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<v Speaker 1>do it. Good do it. We asked the questions you

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<v Speaker 1>always want to know, but no one ever asked, let's

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<v Speaker 1>cut to it. You ain't heard about it, then we're

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<v Speaker 1>about to let you know. It's all I was. I

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<v Speaker 1>was with it with some guys I was meeting, and

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<v Speaker 1>we were just kind of discussing business and um business,

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<v Speaker 1>football and kind of like where we are today and

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<v Speaker 1>then you know, foundation and all that stuff. And so

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<v Speaker 1>I had a guy reminds me of a story that

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<v Speaker 1>he heard about and said it was extremely intriguing. It

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<v Speaker 1>was a two minute drill, he said. He heard me

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<v Speaker 1>speak out the event, and he said that the way

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<v Speaker 1>I articulated the two minute drill and apply that to

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<v Speaker 1>my life. Um, he was really he was thrown back

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<v Speaker 1>by h M. I really excelled it into minute drill too.

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<v Speaker 1>Minute drill is one of those things in the in

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<v Speaker 1>the game so much controlled chaos, but in and and

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<v Speaker 1>it's it's like, you know, being on the on the

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<v Speaker 1>boat and it's it's rain wins, all these things that

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<v Speaker 1>you have to score. You're trying to achieve something that's unachievable.

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<v Speaker 1>The defense is coming at you. They're they're coming in

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<v Speaker 1>and try to get a sack, and you got guys,

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<v Speaker 1>and all you're doing is literally very little verbal conversations.

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<v Speaker 1>It's all hand signals and unspoken words. It's looks, it's

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<v Speaker 1>winks and just body languages all that stuff. And you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I gotta read the corner and all that stuff. And

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<v Speaker 1>so I used to really love the two minute drill

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<v Speaker 1>because two minute drill really was a place where I

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<v Speaker 1>really excelled the best because it was exactly what I

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<v Speaker 1>was raising in l a control chaos or some people

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<v Speaker 1>say non control. Say it may not have been control

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<v Speaker 1>because and I've I've heard you, I've been blessed enough

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<v Speaker 1>to been around you a lot, and I've heard you

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<v Speaker 1>use that analogy a lot, and it's that it's that,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, kind of bouncing between the two minute drill

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<v Speaker 1>is a place where there is chaos. Like you said,

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<v Speaker 1>there's there's all these different things, all this information that's

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<v Speaker 1>been um that's going back and forth, and you're saying

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<v Speaker 1>you thriving that where a lot of people would say,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know if I can handle this. It's a

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<v Speaker 1>it's a high pressure situation. Now I'm thriving based on

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<v Speaker 1>how you were raised. And it's chaos, but like the

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<v Speaker 1>cliche terms, it's organized chaos. Like if you don't practice it.

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<v Speaker 1>We knew we were going into. If you don't prepare

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<v Speaker 1>yourself for different situations and that two minute drill, it

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<v Speaker 1>is gonna be chaos. But like that's life in general.

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<v Speaker 1>So if you can prepare your self for something like that,

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<v Speaker 1>and where Steve's going is what life's all about. It

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<v Speaker 1>it's it's you gotta move on on a dime. You

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<v Speaker 1>gotta be prepared. But you got your work and effort

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<v Speaker 1>in the gym in the morning, or in your books,

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<v Speaker 1>in your office or in your building and your contractors.

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<v Speaker 1>You've gotta be prepared. So when those situations happen, it

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<v Speaker 1>looks like chaos to all of us, But in your mind, man,

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<v Speaker 1>this is what we work for every single day to

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<v Speaker 1>be that way. But see, the thing is, not everybody

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<v Speaker 1>handles the two minutes drill. You see, sometimes there's a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of mistakes. Guys. You get or you get the

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<v Speaker 1>fatigue and it makes you lazy, and it makes you well,

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<v Speaker 1>I I'm so tired, I can't go back a step.

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<v Speaker 1>So then you get off size penalty two or three

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<v Speaker 1>times in a row, like the Steelers in the Chicago

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<v Speaker 1>game where the fatigue that's here, that that two minute.

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<v Speaker 1>I love it because I used to love it because

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<v Speaker 1>I would sit there and everything's going on, and Jake

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<v Speaker 1>or whoever it was, mainly Jake would give me because

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<v Speaker 1>when cams are was a different offense and we would

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<v Speaker 1>have we would speak, but with Jake we would just

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<v Speaker 1>had numbers one huntry circle too, tender lay three which

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<v Speaker 1>is three D and four wards. Reno. Now Reno actually

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<v Speaker 1>was to play if you go back when I heard

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<v Speaker 1>my leg that was an under route in which a

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<v Speaker 1>former teammate Hannibal Navy's uh horse collar um. And then

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<v Speaker 1>I was also when uh Roy Williams horse collar uh

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<v Speaker 1>um t o as well that year they've banned a

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<v Speaker 1>horse collar. So that was on the reno. So we

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<v Speaker 1>go out there and everything's going on that man Jake

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<v Speaker 1>is giving me hand signals and I'm just sitting in

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<v Speaker 1>my little side. If I'm on the right or the

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<v Speaker 1>left side man, and why everybody's going. You gotta whoever

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<v Speaker 1>gets the ball has to throw the ball to raft.

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<v Speaker 1>Then you gotta go line up and then all you

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<v Speaker 1>on the ball, are you off the ball? And I'm

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<v Speaker 1>sitting over there. Just give me my number. He gives

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<v Speaker 1>me a one huntry circle. That's a hitch and under

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<v Speaker 1>a streak and uh uh stop and in a circle

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<v Speaker 1>by the running back. Man. I'm sitting there, and I

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<v Speaker 1>look at the safety, I look at the linebacker and

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<v Speaker 1>see what the defense is. And then we run another

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<v Speaker 1>plate tend delay. Uh. Then I got a double end

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<v Speaker 1>or I got there. So all of that stuff, and

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<v Speaker 1>yet through all of that, I'm sitting calm, collective, just

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<v Speaker 1>giving me my assignment so I can go to work.

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<v Speaker 1>And when I as I got older, that two minute

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<v Speaker 1>drill became as it became more and more chaotic because

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<v Speaker 1>I learned more and more what it was, and it

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<v Speaker 1>was a valuable time and critical point, and I understood

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<v Speaker 1>the gravity of if we don't execute this two minute drill,

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<v Speaker 1>we have the opportunity to lose the game. But when

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<v Speaker 1>I was younger, I never thought about losing the game

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<v Speaker 1>because I knew how to operate in this because I

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<v Speaker 1>was I was kind of naive. As my old coach,

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<v Speaker 1>UH Richard Williams say, blind dog in the meat house.

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<v Speaker 1>You don't know, you know, you don't know what you

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<v Speaker 1>don't know. You just you just smell it and you

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<v Speaker 1>follow your sense. And when you're young, you follow your sense.

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<v Speaker 1>You and you uh, you are aimlessly just going about

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<v Speaker 1>your business. But when you become older. I became older,

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<v Speaker 1>and I started to realize that I actually don't like

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<v Speaker 1>the two minute drill because the two minute drill became

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<v Speaker 1>a place of that chaos where I wanted to relax.

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<v Speaker 1>I wanted to allow my craft to do his work

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<v Speaker 1>and not just just running around while my head cut off.

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<v Speaker 1>And so man, I always liked and I really think,

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<v Speaker 1>and a lot of athletes saying, man, how you handle sports,

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<v Speaker 1>it's how you're gonna handle life and life and sports

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<v Speaker 1>really to some degree, depending on which way and which

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<v Speaker 1>which side of the verdict or the result your own

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<v Speaker 1>really in the case, how you handle it. I find

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<v Speaker 1>it interesting though, that as you got older, you became

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<v Speaker 1>more uncomfortable, even though your knowledge of the game increased

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<v Speaker 1>so much. Because the knowledge of the game made me

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<v Speaker 1>think so much more that I was not willing to

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<v Speaker 1>just give me a number and I run it because

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<v Speaker 1>sometimes that fool didn't pick the right number sometimes or

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<v Speaker 1>the defense we'll trick us. So you lost some of

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<v Speaker 1>that blond dog in the in the in the meat

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<v Speaker 1>store a little bit. As the more that you gained

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<v Speaker 1>the information you lost a little bit. I don't want

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<v Speaker 1>to say instinct may not be the right word. It

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<v Speaker 1>was more of you became more calculated. That makes sense.

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<v Speaker 1>And I think the calculation of it right, and so

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<v Speaker 1>and how do I try? How do I do that? Is?

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<v Speaker 1>I looked at the I looked at the football field

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<v Speaker 1>and playing football as like the pc H Highway. If

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<v Speaker 1>you ever been in California, PC Highway goes from like

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<v Speaker 1>Santa Monica all the way up to the Golden State

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<v Speaker 1>Bridge out in San Francisco. You can you could go

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<v Speaker 1>through Santa Santa Cruz up to Berkeley up to San Francisco.

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<v Speaker 1>It's awesome. The PC Highway is a beautiful strip of

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<v Speaker 1>land over eight nine hours that you can see some

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<v Speaker 1>of the best red woods and see some of the

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<v Speaker 1>most gorgeous sunsets and some of the best beaches. You

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<v Speaker 1>can see. Santa Monica. You can see Venice, you can

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<v Speaker 1>see Malibu, Pacific Palisades, see all these remarkable homes. But

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<v Speaker 1>there were so many times that I was on PC Highway,

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<v Speaker 1>meaning the NFL, and not one time did I stop,

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<v Speaker 1>put my son roof down, pull over and take a

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<v Speaker 1>selfie with the wife in the sunset. I never really,

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<v Speaker 1>I never really enjoyed the view. I was too busy

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<v Speaker 1>focused on the outcome. I really saying, let your side

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<v Speaker 1>effect be your confidence. But also I have that positive

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<v Speaker 1>self talk and also enjoy and be grateful for whatever

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<v Speaker 1>you are dealing with that there is a PC Highway

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<v Speaker 1>in your path. Stop smell roses, taking the sunset, hold

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<v Speaker 1>your man or your wife's hand, and enjoy it because

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<v Speaker 1>I'm telling you you're gonna look up one day. You're

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<v Speaker 1>gonna realize sixty years later. Damn, I never took that selfie.

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<v Speaker 1>Who we got coming up on the Cut to It podcast,

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<v Speaker 1>We've got Austin Ekeler, the starting running back for the

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<v Speaker 1>Los Angeles Chargers. He's one of the NFL's leaders in

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<v Speaker 1>rushing yardage and rushing touchdowns, but he's also a fantasy

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<v Speaker 1>football guru and a mainstay on Twitch Austin Ekeler on

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<v Speaker 1>the Cut to It podcast. Yeah, thanks for me a

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<v Speaker 1>man looking forward to it. We're excited. We're excited. Our

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<v Speaker 1>first segments called get iced Up. All right, what's the

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<v Speaker 1>pet peeve that gets under your skin? Pet peeve that

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<v Speaker 1>gets under my skin? Um? I have a few. We'll

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<v Speaker 1>start with the locker room and people have dirty locker

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<v Speaker 1>next to mine? Right, I got a cataract, So locker

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<v Speaker 1>if you have a dirty locker every every year at

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<v Speaker 1>the beginning of the year, I established whoever's around me

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<v Speaker 1>using some running backs. All right, here's the common area.

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<v Speaker 1>This zero. I don't care what you do in your area,

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<v Speaker 1>but the common area needs to stay clean. Another one

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<v Speaker 1>at home dishes in the sink. Can't do it, can't

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<v Speaker 1>do that. Come on, that's that's one passed on from

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<v Speaker 1>from from mama's Why why can't you pass on? They're

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<v Speaker 1>gonna be there to them all Ah, No, man, I

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<v Speaker 1>just need this. I need the kitchen to look clean

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<v Speaker 1>every time we go to bed, so when I come

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<v Speaker 1>down in the morning, it's like, yeah, that looks beautiful.

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<v Speaker 1>So to me, do you cook? Yes, you can you cook? Cook?

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<v Speaker 1>I mean I'm not like or mat or anything. But

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<v Speaker 1>like what what what is the dish that you've cooked

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<v Speaker 1>that that was certified? Because if you say I can

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<v Speaker 1>make a grilled cheese, that ain't a cook. So if

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<v Speaker 1>you cook, you can't be come fighting eating. You can't

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<v Speaker 1>you If you can't cook, you can't complain about Look.

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<v Speaker 1>Look I can get by cooks fish. I can use

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<v Speaker 1>the grill like you put fish on the grill. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>you can't put fish on the Yeah, you get some butter,

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<v Speaker 1>you get some parsley, get a little garlic salt. Oh yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I put it on there. Yeah, Smithy got a theory

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<v Speaker 1>on that. Yeah, hold up, Yeah, I think that. I

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<v Speaker 1>think that's one of your pet ps. Fish on the grill. Seriously,

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<v Speaker 1>what about on a smoker like smoking like smokes amon,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean that's what a restaurant does. Yes, So that's

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<v Speaker 1>what I'm just saying. That's okay, But I don't put

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<v Speaker 1>fish on the grill. I'm not, but I'm just saying,

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<v Speaker 1>if you just like if you put it on like

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<v Speaker 1>a wood plank and you smoke it over like low,

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<v Speaker 1>would you do that on my grill? No, I'm not

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<v Speaker 1>asking what I'm saying. A smoker in the grill like

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<v Speaker 1>I'm talking about a grill bird, Oh my grill. I

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<v Speaker 1>ain't talk much. I'm just saying period at your house

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<v Speaker 1>maybe okay. And you know, if I'm coming over to

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<v Speaker 1>your house, you probably wouldn't even do it, because you

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<v Speaker 1>know I may say something, Oh my girl, I'm quick,

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<v Speaker 1>whatever what I want. But do you smoke? Sam? It's delicious, Okay.

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<v Speaker 1>I ain't putting on fish on my damn grill. Disrespectful. Uh,

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<v Speaker 1>you might as well come to my house and try

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<v Speaker 1>to bring your meat trying to put it on my

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<v Speaker 1>little pause? Are you one of those guys? If you

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<v Speaker 1>want those guys? I can't say I've done that. No

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<v Speaker 1>good I had to do one time come to my house.

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<v Speaker 1>Hey man, do you mind? I looked at him. His

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<v Speaker 1>name was Willie. I said, hell, no, you can't cook

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<v Speaker 1>on my grill. Bro. He goes really, I said no,

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<v Speaker 1>not walts into someone's house and start operating. There also

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<v Speaker 1>be intruders, right, you know how we handle intruders. Look

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<v Speaker 1>at Austin is totally he's totally done with We're good, brother.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's go all right. Your favorite favorite memory as a kid. Gosh,

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<v Speaker 1>that's a hard one. Yeah, there's nothing that really stands out.

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<v Speaker 1>I guess I really they haven't thought about it. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>we just skipped out. Okay, all right, the last song

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<v Speaker 1>you listen to before you go out and play on

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<v Speaker 1>playing the game. I actually have been on a no

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<v Speaker 1>music vibe this last couple a couple of weeks. But

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<v Speaker 1>when it Dad would explain what happened. Man, huh, oh wow,

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<v Speaker 1>we're talking. I had to you know, I'm all right now.

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<v Speaker 1>I've actually been using this like visual This visualization ain't working, bro,

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<v Speaker 1>you need to go back to the music working. I've

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<v Speaker 1>been using the all season, not just this last game.

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<v Speaker 1>Last game, we gotta ask it. That's what it was. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>the Ravens. Yeah they brought it. Man, I know, I know,

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<v Speaker 1>you know he was there and you did visualize. Oh

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<v Speaker 1>my god. Oh all right, you want to know you

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<v Speaker 1>want to know one of mine? Yeah? What you got

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<v Speaker 1>a deal? Bro? Really? Yes? There before the game is

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<v Speaker 1>savage mode. Okay, he wants to say something, but he's

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<v Speaker 1>not sure. No, I gotta open mind, man. I'm not

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<v Speaker 1>very judgmental man, like I'm a damn. That reminds me

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<v Speaker 1>of MJ. The Last Dance where m J pre game

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<v Speaker 1>is listening to Kenny Lattimore and some savage stuff. Bro.

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<v Speaker 1>I like a deal Bro she her new song fire.

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<v Speaker 1>I might listen to it, you know what. It got

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<v Speaker 1>me a little bit. Though. What's the song called? Uh like,

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<v Speaker 1>it's called yeah easy. I hope we got right to this.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean we we we can't afford that. We're still

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<v Speaker 1>on the budget. Shout out of our heart. I'm gonna

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<v Speaker 1>look into it. No. Um, Yeah, I like a Dell though,

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<v Speaker 1>bro Easy owner is pretty good and sold my goal

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<v Speaker 1>to though. What's that rolling in a deep? I can't

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<v Speaker 1>go wrong with that? Yeah, I can't. I roll it

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<v Speaker 1>a deep and then go go peel back on the

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<v Speaker 1>lineback and before they hit the rule. That was before

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<v Speaker 1>they hit the rule boom deep. All right, all right,

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<v Speaker 1>here's the last one. This is the This is actually

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<v Speaker 1>a really good one, and I think you can really

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<v Speaker 1>appreciate it. And this is you're gonna steal it and

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<v Speaker 1>that's that's cool. Just make sure you uh make sure

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<v Speaker 1>I get the credit. All right? If you were if

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<v Speaker 1>you were president and you had three people to assist you,

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<v Speaker 1>who would you pick? And why? Wow? Yeah, so we're

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<v Speaker 1>not even is on the president part? Just the three

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<v Speaker 1>people that would help you, And why would you pick

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<v Speaker 1>those three people? My mother absolutely, she's been my caretaker.

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<v Speaker 1>She's single mom raised me and my little bro. Who

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<v Speaker 1>would be my other pick? Because that's family. That's my

0:16:15.920 --> 0:16:18.720
<v Speaker 1>closest family. So that I got. So if that's your

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<v Speaker 1>closest family, is he the clean up guy? Clean? Because

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<v Speaker 1>we all got a family member that we roll with.

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<v Speaker 1>They don't really know how to do anything but the

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<v Speaker 1>clean up yours. That's here's the thing, man, he's gonna learn.

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<v Speaker 1>My little brother he's a grinder just like I am.

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<v Speaker 1>He's gonna learn. Right, he's a cleaner, he's regardless of

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<v Speaker 1>everyone's got the role. Bro a your mom brother. And

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<v Speaker 1>then Cameron Weiss, He's become one of my best friends

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<v Speaker 1>over over the years. He's also my attorney, um, my

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<v Speaker 1>business partner, one of my best friends that I've been

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<v Speaker 1>working with for a while a long time. Yeah, he

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<v Speaker 1>got his little house of cards. You got to cleaners. Yah,

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<v Speaker 1>got the physical cleaner and it didn't happen the mastermind

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<v Speaker 1>behind it right alright? Cool? Alright, So how are you

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<v Speaker 1>doing today? I'm doing great, man, doing great Tuesday, which

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<v Speaker 1>is usually my community day where I'm really trying to

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<v Speaker 1>uh connect and just get out there and talk to people.

0:17:21.880 --> 0:17:25.239
<v Speaker 1>You got a whole day designated to community a priority. Man,

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<v Speaker 1>we feel honored them that you're gonna spend that community.

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<v Speaker 1>I honestly feel on it. Like I love when people

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<v Speaker 1>have podcasts when people want to bring me on because

0:17:32.960 --> 0:17:34.520
<v Speaker 1>I'm like, yes, Like I think this is something that

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<v Speaker 1>guys in the league, just people people in general have

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<v Speaker 1>a platform to do more often, because I don't think

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<v Speaker 1>people understand the actual importance of media and community and connecting,

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<v Speaker 1>especially for after your sport is over, Like that's when

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<v Speaker 1>it really plays a part so you can actually go

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<v Speaker 1>out and do something that you want to do. Um,

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<v Speaker 1>it's not often that a lot of people think about

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<v Speaker 1>that at this point in their career. Why is that

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<v Speaker 1>so front of front of mine? For you, Millennaise, It's

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<v Speaker 1>because I never thought I was gonna be in the NFL. Mhm.

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<v Speaker 1>I never sat out. I was never like, oh, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>gonna go to the NFL when I'm playing in college,

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<v Speaker 1>I went to a division to school. I focused everything

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<v Speaker 1>I could on my involvements, which is football and my education,

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<v Speaker 1>and I thought I was gonna go into business world.

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<v Speaker 1>I thought was gonna get into real estate, and then

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<v Speaker 1>football gave me an opportunity, and I put everything in

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<v Speaker 1>my power to go and take advantage of the opportunity

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<v Speaker 1>to try to make it work. Ended up working out,

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<v Speaker 1>and so that mindset stayed with me. I always knew

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<v Speaker 1>football was going to be a starting point for me,

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<v Speaker 1>but not the endpoint, right, And so now I'm in football,

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<v Speaker 1>I have this platform. I'm gonna use it as a

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<v Speaker 1>tool to better myself as a person and also connects

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<v Speaker 1>UM and get a head start on kind of you know,

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<v Speaker 1>the things that I had perceived me. I kind of like,

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<v Speaker 1>I guess me back up my passions, right. It's pushing

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<v Speaker 1>me towards my passions and helping me connect with people

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<v Speaker 1>in that space. And my passion is connecting with people

0:18:52.040 --> 0:18:54.320
<v Speaker 1>and helping people. That's why my foundation, that's why I started,

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<v Speaker 1>like some of my companies that I have, is to

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<v Speaker 1>help people better themselves by giving them resources so they

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<v Speaker 1>can learn more about themselves, so they can become a

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<v Speaker 1>better version of themselves. And I really find fulfillment in that.

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<v Speaker 1>So that's why I'm using this platform to get back

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<v Speaker 1>to that um. And so that's why you know, I

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<v Speaker 1>think my mindset is based on that because it was

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<v Speaker 1>never about football for me and now I'm using football absolutely,

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<v Speaker 1>but still more about people. How do you keep focused

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<v Speaker 1>on the sport, playing football and performing and not making it?

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<v Speaker 1>You know, you hear people, You hear I say, millennials.

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<v Speaker 1>You hear a lot of young guys now in the

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<v Speaker 1>league talking about their brand and you know, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>being a part of the p A. I was a

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<v Speaker 1>player rep. So hearing about the pas, you know, hearing

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<v Speaker 1>about all these young guys talk, my man, I gotta

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<v Speaker 1>make sure my brand is on point. But if your

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<v Speaker 1>brand if you can't. If you you could be a

0:19:43.800 --> 0:19:50.920
<v Speaker 1>brand corner, but you can't stop nobody that brand. Here's

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<v Speaker 1>the thing that football is giving me all these opportunities

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<v Speaker 1>that I've had to this day, and so playing though

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<v Speaker 1>and make your plays to maintain percent, you have to

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<v Speaker 1>be relevant, you know, and the more relevant you are,

0:20:04.359 --> 0:20:06.040
<v Speaker 1>the easier it's going to be to get connection. Stuff

0:20:06.040 --> 0:20:09.360
<v Speaker 1>like that. You can still get connections just having being

0:20:09.440 --> 0:20:11.000
<v Speaker 1>part of the shield, but it don't run as deep.

0:20:11.560 --> 0:20:13.880
<v Speaker 1>But here's the thing. My mindset has been football because

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<v Speaker 1>this is what's got me here at this point. So

0:20:16.119 --> 0:20:18.399
<v Speaker 1>that's why that's how you don't get distracted. That's why

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<v Speaker 1>Tuesday is a big day for me. I like that

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<v Speaker 1>because there are times where guys consume themselves with their brand,

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<v Speaker 1>and then they start to believe that their brand is

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<v Speaker 1>so big, and then you look at their stats and

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<v Speaker 1>they don't. You're all starting the community, but you're a

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<v Speaker 1>bench warmer on the field. I'm serious. So you see,

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<v Speaker 1>I think you said a lot where people skew more

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<v Speaker 1>towards the brand and forget why that they're in the

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<v Speaker 1>first place. I tell you what, talking to Austin right

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<v Speaker 1>now being a Los Angeles charger, not talking about his

0:20:52.200 --> 0:20:54.000
<v Speaker 1>sam but there's some dudes on his team right now

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<v Speaker 1>are average, but because they're in a big market, they

0:20:58.320 --> 0:21:03.320
<v Speaker 1>think they're a lot better than what they are. A snicker,

0:21:04.400 --> 0:21:06.160
<v Speaker 1>you know what I'm talking about that. I'm sure it's

0:21:06.160 --> 0:21:08.040
<v Speaker 1>easy to get connected when you're in when you're in

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<v Speaker 1>one of those large markets New Yorker or Miami, You'll

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<v Speaker 1>be talking to guys and I'm like, I'm sitting there,

0:21:14.760 --> 0:21:20.800
<v Speaker 1>going he's on special teams and it's not the wrong

0:21:20.880 --> 0:21:22.720
<v Speaker 1>of being on special teams. But then when I'm talking

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<v Speaker 1>like I've had conversations with dudes where I felt like

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<v Speaker 1>I gotta go, man, I gotta google myself because I

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<v Speaker 1>just had this interaction was off a phrase i'd like

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<v Speaker 1>to say. He's gotta keep the main thing, the main thing.

0:21:34.440 --> 0:21:37.199
<v Speaker 1>That's true though, the main thing, the main thing, right,

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<v Speaker 1>and then you know, then you can do stuff on

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<v Speaker 1>the side. But yeah, absolutely, you gotta make a presence.

0:21:41.720 --> 0:21:44.959
<v Speaker 1>Um just obviously build a brand that's you know, substantial.

0:21:45.040 --> 0:21:49.280
<v Speaker 1>But now I feel you, man, it's you gotta stay

0:21:49.320 --> 0:21:53.119
<v Speaker 1>on track. He's giggling because he knows there's some guys

0:21:53.160 --> 0:21:56.560
<v Speaker 1>on this team right back. That's every team. No, it's

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<v Speaker 1>on bigger, bigger city teams though, because you ain't. I don't.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't run up against the dude. I never ran

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<v Speaker 1>up against dude. And since NAT thinking, you know what,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm a little home man, like, excuse me, So where

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<v Speaker 1>was that I forgot, which I was somewhere in the

0:22:15.720 --> 0:22:17.520
<v Speaker 1>dude was like, yeah, man, you know, I check you

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<v Speaker 1>out here and there. I looked at him and said,

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<v Speaker 1>excuse me, you check me out like he was like

0:22:23.920 --> 0:22:26.040
<v Speaker 1>he was like telling me like he did me. He

0:22:26.160 --> 0:22:30.359
<v Speaker 1>was doing me a favor, and I was just like, uh, man,

0:22:30.440 --> 0:22:33.800
<v Speaker 1>it's he in a big market that big market got

0:22:33.920 --> 0:22:37.040
<v Speaker 1>him confused with himself. Look, you gotta use it though,

0:22:37.160 --> 0:22:38.840
<v Speaker 1>That's what I'm saying, man, you gotta you gotta use

0:22:38.880 --> 0:22:40.720
<v Speaker 1>the market. If you have it, use it. You can't.

0:22:40.800 --> 0:22:43.280
<v Speaker 1>You can't be on people's head because they're, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>the guy on their team, but they're trying to, you know, connect,

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<v Speaker 1>Like I'm just saying. A great example is current right now.

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<v Speaker 1>DK metcalf is wiping his booty with Shannon Sharp stats.

0:22:55.720 --> 0:22:58.840
<v Speaker 1>Excuse me, that's what he said. He said he wiped

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<v Speaker 1>his He said, you washed stuff. I want to be Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>So if you go to cut to it, um my

0:23:07.520 --> 0:23:11.639
<v Speaker 1>social media. I went and looked up eight time Pro Bowler,

0:23:12.480 --> 0:23:15.080
<v Speaker 1>Hall of Famer Shannon Shark, and then I looked up

0:23:15.800 --> 0:23:20.800
<v Speaker 1>um DJ's stats, and I know they're skewed because of time,

0:23:20.920 --> 0:23:22.200
<v Speaker 1>but I just had to look him up because I

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<v Speaker 1>was trying to figure out which number is d K

0:23:25.200 --> 0:23:28.560
<v Speaker 1>wiping his boat with. Is it the ten thousand wow,

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<v Speaker 1>ten thousand yards to six of two touchdowns or the

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<v Speaker 1>Hall of Fame or the eight Pro Bowls? Trying to

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<v Speaker 1>figure out which which one is he using it? See

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<v Speaker 1>a man, here's my thing, Like I told you, I

0:23:38.800 --> 0:23:42.120
<v Speaker 1>keep it open minds. I'm not I'm never never being

0:23:42.160 --> 0:23:44.000
<v Speaker 1>like I'm better than you, I'm better than like. That's

0:23:44.040 --> 0:23:46.120
<v Speaker 1>what you get in trouble. There are some guys I'm

0:23:46.160 --> 0:23:49.560
<v Speaker 1>better than though, I know that for absolutely absolutely, Like

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<v Speaker 1>there's a few guys I know I'm better than today

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<v Speaker 1>right now at forty two two, right now, right now,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't want you to play nobody. We just I'm

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<v Speaker 1>just that conversation. There are some there are some dbs

0:24:01.760 --> 0:24:06.000
<v Speaker 1>who will try to compress me. No chance, no chance. Now.

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<v Speaker 1>I may not be able to go get that gold

0:24:08.200 --> 0:24:10.600
<v Speaker 1>ball like I used to at forty two, but I

0:24:10.680 --> 0:24:13.040
<v Speaker 1>will punish this dB trying to press me. Though you

0:24:13.119 --> 0:24:15.320
<v Speaker 1>ain't even worried about that. I ain't worried about this ball.

0:24:15.359 --> 0:24:17.520
<v Speaker 1>You're gonna catch these, you're gonna cas You're gonna get

0:24:17.720 --> 0:24:20.880
<v Speaker 1>word about that route, anything about the route you're about

0:24:20.880 --> 0:24:36.600
<v Speaker 1>to give. You're about to get four wings not. I

0:24:36.880 --> 0:24:39.760
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<v Speaker 1>I got all my answers questions. Um, yeah, I got

0:25:09.760 --> 0:25:13.080
<v Speaker 1>all my questions answered. That's what I'm here for, a brother,

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<v Speaker 1>cut to a podcast dot com. Alright, last one, last

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<v Speaker 1>one for this time that we've had your schedule on

0:25:19.760 --> 0:25:21.440
<v Speaker 1>the podcast. It has been killing me and I gotta

0:25:21.480 --> 0:25:24.920
<v Speaker 1>get it in my nose. It'sn't red. You gotta explain

0:25:25.040 --> 0:25:30.840
<v Speaker 1>this cooked eggs and raw eggs nonsense. Yeah, for whatever reason,

0:25:30.920 --> 0:25:34.240
<v Speaker 1>I don't know, like having right or not having cooked eggs,

0:25:34.240 --> 0:25:38.119
<v Speaker 1>whether they're scrambled hard, whatever is it just it just

0:25:38.280 --> 0:25:40.600
<v Speaker 1>makes me like want to throw up, Like, okay, it's

0:25:40.640 --> 0:25:43.119
<v Speaker 1>a texture thing. I don't know if it's a texture

0:25:43.160 --> 0:25:44.760
<v Speaker 1>if I just had a rotten one one time, but

0:25:44.840 --> 0:25:49.800
<v Speaker 1>it's for me, it's ruined. It's ruined. So you're to

0:25:49.880 --> 0:25:52.040
<v Speaker 1>make up for that you eat raw eggs. So no,

0:25:52.160 --> 0:25:54.639
<v Speaker 1>I don't. I'm not like Rocky like cracking in my

0:25:54.720 --> 0:25:56.359
<v Speaker 1>mouth type stuff. You know, it's I put it like

0:25:56.400 --> 0:25:59.760
<v Speaker 1>a smoothie, y'all, crack up for the protein. Yeah. Yeah,

0:26:00.280 --> 0:26:02.440
<v Speaker 1>but I've had people try my smooth like bro that

0:26:02.560 --> 0:26:06.399
<v Speaker 1>is absolutely terrible guessing my nutrients. So it's it is

0:26:06.440 --> 0:26:11.120
<v Speaker 1>what it is. It's acquired. Would not recommend. Yeah, hey,

0:26:11.480 --> 0:26:13.040
<v Speaker 1>look the thing is, I'm not gonna throw up, so

0:26:14.760 --> 0:26:18.800
<v Speaker 1>work for you. I'm good, all right? Um Hey, so

0:26:18.920 --> 0:26:20.840
<v Speaker 1>where are you from in the place you call your hometown?

0:26:21.840 --> 0:26:27.480
<v Speaker 1>Eat in Colorado town? Where's that? Uh? In regards to Aspen.

0:26:29.200 --> 0:26:33.679
<v Speaker 1>Aspen is in the mountains. So I'm like north northeast

0:26:33.760 --> 0:26:39.359
<v Speaker 1>corner of Colorado. How far downtown Denver from Denver? Probably

0:26:39.880 --> 0:26:43.719
<v Speaker 1>hour and a half drive, So sure I can hit

0:26:43.760 --> 0:26:46.840
<v Speaker 1>you you you hit that your hometown before you hit Aspen.

0:26:46.880 --> 0:26:50.119
<v Speaker 1>Man from from downtown. It depends on where you're coming from.

0:26:50.480 --> 0:26:56.600
<v Speaker 1>It's Denver, Aspen's west of Denver. I'm east of Denver, Yeah, northeast.

0:26:56.720 --> 0:26:59.680
<v Speaker 1>So yeah, small town man, like I said, Like like

0:26:59.840 --> 0:27:02.720
<v Speaker 1>you said, out in the farmlands man, like cornfields all around.

0:27:02.800 --> 0:27:06.200
<v Speaker 1>One stoplight town, tiny little, tiny little town. But because

0:27:06.200 --> 0:27:09.760
<v Speaker 1>it a stoplight or stop song, stoplight, we got what

0:27:09.880 --> 0:27:11.320
<v Speaker 1>we had one stop flight when I was there. It's

0:27:11.320 --> 0:27:16.080
<v Speaker 1>grown sense, Like just was it like yellow red yellow, yellow,

0:27:16.560 --> 0:27:20.560
<v Speaker 1>red green, or was it just rant. Yeah, we had

0:27:20.560 --> 0:27:22.240
<v Speaker 1>all three colors, like one of those towns you go

0:27:22.359 --> 0:27:23.960
<v Speaker 1>through on the highway and you just like stop so

0:27:24.040 --> 0:27:29.199
<v Speaker 1>we can turn yield. You know, if you get too

0:27:29.240 --> 0:27:31.399
<v Speaker 1>many city folk in there and it's just one nobody

0:27:31.480 --> 0:27:34.480
<v Speaker 1>knows where to go right and to the right and

0:27:34.560 --> 0:27:37.439
<v Speaker 1>to the left. The sun I got right, all right.

0:27:37.520 --> 0:27:40.720
<v Speaker 1>So so growing up, you know, how did it make

0:27:40.760 --> 0:27:46.560
<v Speaker 1>you look at at the world. I became became a

0:27:46.600 --> 0:27:50.639
<v Speaker 1>product of my environment. When you're when you're working, when

0:27:50.680 --> 0:27:53.200
<v Speaker 1>you're working on the ranch, your ranch hand, your build

0:27:53.240 --> 0:27:56.240
<v Speaker 1>a fence, you're playing sports like it's just engraved and

0:27:56.320 --> 0:27:58.359
<v Speaker 1>you like you just grind, like it doesn't matter. You

0:27:58.400 --> 0:28:02.160
<v Speaker 1>can be good. There's no excuses. I used grind, whether

0:28:02.200 --> 0:28:03.760
<v Speaker 1>it's to get the job done. Like I remember, you

0:28:03.840 --> 0:28:06.800
<v Speaker 1>know my mom's ex husband, Uh he gets these these

0:28:06.880 --> 0:28:09.359
<v Speaker 1>jobs like he's a fence builder, and these are not

0:28:09.560 --> 0:28:16.919
<v Speaker 1>just like your picket fence, Like this is like twenty

0:28:17.000 --> 0:28:20.080
<v Speaker 1>miles of barbed wire fence, like over the summer, Like

0:28:20.240 --> 0:28:24.560
<v Speaker 1>we're tucking mega projects. So out here like grinding, grind,

0:28:24.640 --> 0:28:27.399
<v Speaker 1>no excuses or you know, you're not gonna like the

0:28:27.680 --> 0:28:30.720
<v Speaker 1>consequences kind of thing. And so I was in a

0:28:30.760 --> 0:28:32.359
<v Speaker 1>situation where I like, I gotta get out of here,

0:28:32.440 --> 0:28:34.000
<v Speaker 1>I gotta get out of this, and I knew I

0:28:34.040 --> 0:28:35.800
<v Speaker 1>need to get and so a great and grade this

0:28:35.920 --> 0:28:37.960
<v Speaker 1>work ethic in me that I didn't complain because I

0:28:38.000 --> 0:28:40.080
<v Speaker 1>knew I couldn't, But I just I just grinded. I

0:28:40.200 --> 0:28:42.640
<v Speaker 1>just worked and finally got in this situation where I

0:28:42.760 --> 0:28:44.160
<v Speaker 1>get out of there, out of call and got into

0:28:44.160 --> 0:28:46.200
<v Speaker 1>college and now I can kind of choose my fate

0:28:46.240 --> 0:28:48.240
<v Speaker 1>and when I wanted to get into and that mindset

0:28:48.280 --> 0:28:50.520
<v Speaker 1>stayed with me, and that mindset stay with me. It

0:28:50.600 --> 0:28:53.560
<v Speaker 1>was like, look, act like, look, this is what your

0:28:53.600 --> 0:28:56.280
<v Speaker 1>life depends on right here, you haven't success, whether it's

0:28:56.280 --> 0:28:59.200
<v Speaker 1>in your your education or your football career. And that

0:28:59.320 --> 0:29:01.400
<v Speaker 1>stayed with me, and it stayed with me now and

0:29:01.720 --> 0:29:03.880
<v Speaker 1>now football is obviously my opportunity and it stays with

0:29:03.960 --> 0:29:05.240
<v Speaker 1>me now. That's why I never forget. That's why I

0:29:05.240 --> 0:29:07.600
<v Speaker 1>always connected community, because it took so many people with

0:29:07.680 --> 0:29:09.560
<v Speaker 1>so many connections and so many people continue to be

0:29:09.640 --> 0:29:12.360
<v Speaker 1>around me and help me out in my mindset to

0:29:12.440 --> 0:29:15.160
<v Speaker 1>give me to this point that now I'm trying to

0:29:15.200 --> 0:29:17.640
<v Speaker 1>help other people do that. So that's what Eaton Colorado

0:29:17.760 --> 0:29:20.040
<v Speaker 1>like it for me. It wasn't always the best uh

0:29:20.400 --> 0:29:23.080
<v Speaker 1>you know, just situation, but it definitely helped me as

0:29:23.120 --> 0:29:25.760
<v Speaker 1>far as get to me give my mindset right for

0:29:26.000 --> 0:29:28.040
<v Speaker 1>you know, this opportunity. So I talked about that my

0:29:28.560 --> 0:29:31.800
<v Speaker 1>wife wants. My wife is like she's so all about

0:29:31.880 --> 0:29:35.120
<v Speaker 1>self efficiency, right, and she wants a farm so bad, bro.

0:29:35.400 --> 0:29:39.720
<v Speaker 1>Like we're driving around. We drove to Marshall, North Carolina,

0:29:39.800 --> 0:29:43.160
<v Speaker 1>which is I live in Charlotte, right, I live outside

0:29:43.160 --> 0:29:46.560
<v Speaker 1>of Charrette, like thirty miles side show. I was closer

0:29:46.920 --> 0:29:50.560
<v Speaker 1>in Marshall, North Carolina to Tennessee than I was to Charlotte,

0:29:51.080 --> 0:29:54.840
<v Speaker 1>three hours each way. It was sixteen acres at a goal.

0:29:55.480 --> 0:29:59.280
<v Speaker 1>It was just she loves it. I'm a city boy, man,

0:30:00.200 --> 0:30:05.040
<v Speaker 1>nothing about me speak to farm like spark to farming,

0:30:05.200 --> 0:30:12.520
<v Speaker 1>and hands said farm. The table ain't in my dad? Yeah, man,

0:30:12.760 --> 0:30:15.400
<v Speaker 1>I was twenty miles away from my school, so every

0:30:15.480 --> 0:30:19.000
<v Speaker 1>day drive twenty miles into school. Like that's you didn't

0:30:19.080 --> 0:30:25.680
<v Speaker 1>drench do snow? Yeah but literally yeah, Like I lived

0:30:25.720 --> 0:30:28.200
<v Speaker 1>on like a plot of land. It was eighty acres,

0:30:28.240 --> 0:30:30.560
<v Speaker 1>which sounds like a lot, but in that area that's

0:30:31.360 --> 0:30:34.480
<v Speaker 1>just normal just because it's nothing. But that's that's about dirt.

0:30:35.640 --> 0:30:37.200
<v Speaker 1>That's a lot of land. But like I think my

0:30:37.360 --> 0:30:39.280
<v Speaker 1>mom ended up selling that place for like like th

0:30:40.000 --> 0:30:42.360
<v Speaker 1>so like this is just straight dirt, Like you can

0:30:42.400 --> 0:30:44.560
<v Speaker 1>buy land in this area. That's just nothing but landing.

0:30:44.560 --> 0:30:47.440
<v Speaker 1>There's no development, there's nothing there. Um. So it's just

0:30:47.760 --> 0:30:50.360
<v Speaker 1>so it's the place where when you escape prison, that's

0:30:50.400 --> 0:30:54.000
<v Speaker 1>where you go. You're out there in the ranch and

0:30:54.120 --> 0:30:56.600
<v Speaker 1>out there the plains in Colorado. No one's gonna find you.

0:30:57.280 --> 0:31:01.040
<v Speaker 1>So so tell me what is the good and the

0:31:01.240 --> 0:31:05.640
<v Speaker 1>bad for me if if talk me into it, it

0:31:05.720 --> 0:31:08.160
<v Speaker 1>out of it, Like what what it would be the

0:31:08.280 --> 0:31:12.200
<v Speaker 1>advantage and disadvantages of it? Because you experienced it as

0:31:12.240 --> 0:31:16.800
<v Speaker 1>a kid and you know what what it's done for

0:31:16.960 --> 0:31:23.200
<v Speaker 1>you as a dolt. Right, so your like your ten

0:31:23.280 --> 0:31:26.760
<v Speaker 1>thousands your ten thousand foot view of it of being

0:31:26.840 --> 0:31:29.280
<v Speaker 1>a kid, being raised on it and now being adult

0:31:29.360 --> 0:31:33.120
<v Speaker 1>and seeing how that work ethic actually helped you become

0:31:33.200 --> 0:31:35.960
<v Speaker 1>who the great player you are, the fantastic player you

0:31:36.040 --> 0:31:39.200
<v Speaker 1>are right now, and give you that mindset so you know,

0:31:40.600 --> 0:31:48.120
<v Speaker 1>selp me on why I should or should not. Well,

0:31:48.160 --> 0:31:51.320
<v Speaker 1>here's the thing. It wasn't my choice to be out there.

0:31:51.560 --> 0:31:54.400
<v Speaker 1>That's why I'm asking that wasn't to be out there

0:31:55.120 --> 0:31:56.920
<v Speaker 1>if I if I had to do it again, I wouldn't.

0:31:56.920 --> 0:31:59.240
<v Speaker 1>I wouldn't be hout tae. I have a pen, go

0:31:59.320 --> 0:32:01.640
<v Speaker 1>ahead with a nice leather chair right now. So it

0:32:01.680 --> 0:32:04.640
<v Speaker 1>ain't exactly he passed in from from the farm right now.

0:32:05.960 --> 0:32:07.600
<v Speaker 1>I even grew up in the life man. I wrote

0:32:07.680 --> 0:32:10.719
<v Speaker 1>bulls for a few years, like like two of us.

0:32:12.160 --> 0:32:15.080
<v Speaker 1>There's two black men of roll bulls on his podcast

0:32:15.800 --> 0:32:24.560
<v Speaker 1>and mine was mechanical. But anyway, okay, he was over here.

0:32:24.600 --> 0:32:26.200
<v Speaker 1>He was in the genuine pony video. I don't know

0:32:26.200 --> 0:32:29.680
<v Speaker 1>if you saw that in which video? Remember mind, I

0:32:29.800 --> 0:32:33.080
<v Speaker 1>forgot eight difference now. So I was on a Thursday

0:32:33.160 --> 0:32:35.000
<v Speaker 1>night where was at will was in Philly and they

0:32:35.080 --> 0:32:38.040
<v Speaker 1>had a mechanical bull and I'm like, I want to

0:32:38.160 --> 0:32:41.560
<v Speaker 1>ride the ball and they're like really, I'm like yes,

0:32:42.120 --> 0:32:43.600
<v Speaker 1>and they're like, you're in a suit. I said, that's

0:32:43.600 --> 0:32:46.520
<v Speaker 1>even that's even better. That just shows you my athleticism.

0:32:48.480 --> 0:32:51.600
<v Speaker 1>And so I read them I wrote a mechanical bull

0:32:51.840 --> 0:32:55.320
<v Speaker 1>in a suit. I saw that video, I'm like, who

0:32:55.600 --> 0:32:58.480
<v Speaker 1>in the hill? And they were like, but the dude

0:32:58.600 --> 0:33:00.640
<v Speaker 1>that was doing it, I had to given look like

0:33:00.800 --> 0:33:02.720
<v Speaker 1>the first I gave him a side I then I

0:33:02.760 --> 0:33:06.520
<v Speaker 1>just gave him a stare, like a bro, don't your

0:33:06.600 --> 0:33:09.480
<v Speaker 1>job ain't to make me fall off. This is just

0:33:09.640 --> 0:33:12.000
<v Speaker 1>a little experiment to say I did it. He over there,

0:33:12.480 --> 0:33:17.120
<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna make Steven. Yeah. And so I actually fell

0:33:17.160 --> 0:33:20.800
<v Speaker 1>off because I sitched. It was starting to speed up.

0:33:20.840 --> 0:33:24.320
<v Speaker 1>I'm like, come on, bro, like this suit right now.

0:33:24.520 --> 0:33:27.560
<v Speaker 1>Really ain't trying to get split right j B Divarsity

0:33:27.600 --> 0:33:30.160
<v Speaker 1>real quick? He took it. No, he took D one,

0:33:32.120 --> 0:33:34.440
<v Speaker 1>he skilled one. I know. I realized it was time

0:33:34.480 --> 0:33:39.280
<v Speaker 1>to get off Paulse because my calve was starting to

0:33:40.000 --> 0:33:43.520
<v Speaker 1>cramp right right right. No, I'm that because they said,

0:33:43.600 --> 0:33:46.360
<v Speaker 1>you know, well, you know you gotta squeeze. I was

0:33:46.400 --> 0:33:49.680
<v Speaker 1>over there, like my right legs, my right legs said, boy,

0:33:50.640 --> 0:33:56.240
<v Speaker 1>you better slow down. We're gonna give out just advanced pauls. Second,

0:33:56.640 --> 0:33:58.200
<v Speaker 1>so we're just gonna give a blanket one. All right,

0:33:58.240 --> 0:33:59.920
<v Speaker 1>So tell me so, like what so what it was

0:34:00.000 --> 0:34:05.400
<v Speaker 1>your dreams? First off, you're not gonna need that suit

0:34:05.440 --> 0:34:06.880
<v Speaker 1>out there. You're gonna need that. She's not gonna be

0:34:06.880 --> 0:34:08.760
<v Speaker 1>having any types of events like that unless you actually

0:34:08.840 --> 0:34:10.879
<v Speaker 1>drive somewhere, which you're gonna have to drive because you're

0:34:10.880 --> 0:34:13.840
<v Speaker 1>out in the country. Um. About the only thing that

0:34:14.200 --> 0:34:17.279
<v Speaker 1>I enjoyed about it was actually having space, like you

0:34:17.360 --> 0:34:21.440
<v Speaker 1>actually see like space like as far as like just wilderness,

0:34:21.600 --> 0:34:26.719
<v Speaker 1>like you're not concrete jungle. Um. Other than that, I

0:34:26.960 --> 0:34:29.600
<v Speaker 1>was not a fan. I was just locked in my

0:34:29.680 --> 0:34:32.520
<v Speaker 1>room playing video games, hanging out with a little bro um,

0:34:32.840 --> 0:34:37.240
<v Speaker 1>not really trying to interact. Because Yeah, we had horses,

0:34:37.480 --> 0:34:40.279
<v Speaker 1>we had some cows, we had chickens. We had a

0:34:40.320 --> 0:34:42.319
<v Speaker 1>goat that was so mean. We had this goat man.

0:34:42.400 --> 0:34:44.360
<v Speaker 1>Let me tell you, if you you stepped outside, he

0:34:44.400 --> 0:34:46.080
<v Speaker 1>would come from our horse pens. You gotta go out

0:34:46.120 --> 0:34:48.919
<v Speaker 1>with the whoofleball bat to protect yourself from this goat

0:34:48.960 --> 0:34:52.200
<v Speaker 1>because this goat running across what is it n backs

0:34:52.480 --> 0:34:57.080
<v Speaker 1>and health was healthy was over here talking about a

0:34:57.200 --> 0:35:01.480
<v Speaker 1>ghat story in which his uncle on his that try

0:35:01.560 --> 0:35:05.560
<v Speaker 1>to get him to kill a goat. Yeah, shoot, let's

0:35:05.600 --> 0:35:08.759
<v Speaker 1>go shoot this go trying to kill you. Outside. He's

0:35:08.800 --> 0:35:10.800
<v Speaker 1>sprinting across the lawn. You can literally beating him with

0:35:10.800 --> 0:35:13.399
<v Speaker 1>the wolf a ball bat trying to get him off you. Um,

0:35:14.000 --> 0:35:16.440
<v Speaker 1>so yeah that was a thing. Uh. Did you have

0:35:16.560 --> 0:35:19.000
<v Speaker 1>to pick eggs? You had to pick up. Oh yeah, yeah,

0:35:19.000 --> 0:35:21.279
<v Speaker 1>you go pick up eggs. I'll take care of the

0:35:21.360 --> 0:35:23.799
<v Speaker 1>chickens because you can't have them out overnight because it's

0:35:23.800 --> 0:35:26.440
<v Speaker 1>the coyotes. There's a lot of kayas out there, stuff

0:35:26.480 --> 0:35:29.520
<v Speaker 1>like that. So it's it's definitely if if you're into like, hey,

0:35:29.600 --> 0:35:31.279
<v Speaker 1>you're gonna take care, live up the land like your

0:35:31.680 --> 0:35:34.719
<v Speaker 1>your wife sounds like self efficient, then you can make

0:35:34.760 --> 0:35:37.080
<v Speaker 1>it work. But you can have to realize there's not

0:35:37.080 --> 0:35:40.839
<v Speaker 1>a lot of opportunity out there's no social life your mile.

0:35:40.960 --> 0:35:44.719
<v Speaker 1>You're like, my closest neighbor was like half a mile away, um,

0:35:45.000 --> 0:35:48.279
<v Speaker 1>and we didn't even talk to them. Other neighbor who

0:35:48.320 --> 0:35:52.640
<v Speaker 1>was three miles away from your house the mall. Wow,

0:35:53.120 --> 0:35:59.920
<v Speaker 1>probably forty five to fifty minutes, twenty minutes to school,

0:36:00.360 --> 0:36:02.680
<v Speaker 1>twenty minutes of school or to go. Did they have

0:36:02.800 --> 0:36:05.200
<v Speaker 1>a bus to cough? No, the bust didn't go that far.

0:36:05.239 --> 0:36:08.200
<v Speaker 1>I was outside of the district. Did having those chores

0:36:08.280 --> 0:36:12.920
<v Speaker 1>at a young age was it helpful? Absolutely? Absolutely helpful.

0:36:13.160 --> 0:36:15.120
<v Speaker 1>It taught me that, hey, look, sometimes you got to

0:36:15.120 --> 0:36:16.840
<v Speaker 1>do stuff in life that you don't like to do.

0:36:18.160 --> 0:36:20.279
<v Speaker 1>Definitely taught me that. I remember, I think the worst

0:36:20.360 --> 0:36:22.160
<v Speaker 1>job that I had out there was I mean, I

0:36:22.239 --> 0:36:25.600
<v Speaker 1>had a feed water horses year round, which I didn't

0:36:25.600 --> 0:36:27.000
<v Speaker 1>like because it where my horses I didn't ride, And

0:36:27.080 --> 0:36:29.440
<v Speaker 1>I was like, what the hell? Um, But in the

0:36:29.520 --> 0:36:34.200
<v Speaker 1>wintertime in Colorado it snows, and guess what, horses can't

0:36:34.200 --> 0:36:35.600
<v Speaker 1>break their own ice. And we didn't have any like

0:36:35.640 --> 0:36:37.480
<v Speaker 1>bubblers or anything. So I'm not there with a sledgehammer

0:36:37.520 --> 0:36:42.319
<v Speaker 1>breaking ice, watering horses during the wintertime, trying to forget

0:36:42.360 --> 0:36:45.440
<v Speaker 1>those memories. God, but definitely taught me it looks sometimes

0:36:45.480 --> 0:36:46.880
<v Speaker 1>you just gotta you gotta do what you gotta do

0:36:47.000 --> 0:36:48.879
<v Speaker 1>to get by and make sure you know everything's taken

0:36:48.920 --> 0:36:50.919
<v Speaker 1>care of. So as far as then says working, Yeah,

0:36:51.160 --> 0:36:55.319
<v Speaker 1>what time did you wake up in the in the mornings? Um,

0:36:56.080 --> 0:37:02.880
<v Speaker 1>probably six thirty and then six thirty. What did that entail? Uh,

0:37:03.000 --> 0:37:05.840
<v Speaker 1>six thirty, wake up, go downstairs, put on some clothes,

0:37:05.880 --> 0:37:07.880
<v Speaker 1>it's says the wintertime, you gotta put on some clothes,

0:37:07.920 --> 0:37:10.399
<v Speaker 1>so you actually go outside, feed the horses, make sure

0:37:10.440 --> 0:37:12.440
<v Speaker 1>the ice is broken so they can drink, then go

0:37:12.560 --> 0:37:14.920
<v Speaker 1>back inside, shower, get ready for school and ready for

0:37:15.280 --> 0:37:22.120
<v Speaker 1>ready for the day. And that's that's that's work. So sorry,

0:37:22.200 --> 0:37:25.400
<v Speaker 1>So you're so, what's the what's the verdict? I'm not

0:37:25.480 --> 0:37:29.200
<v Speaker 1>gonna say what the verdict? My bad hit Hancho in here?

0:37:30.800 --> 0:37:35.879
<v Speaker 1>Uh Ninja ain't trying to do all that. I worked

0:37:35.880 --> 0:37:38.920
<v Speaker 1>too hard to be all right. Well, we got we

0:37:39.000 --> 0:37:42.680
<v Speaker 1>gotta we got. We got a section called Let's Hope Ball.

0:37:42.760 --> 0:37:44.800
<v Speaker 1>We'll hit on a little bit of your career and

0:37:44.920 --> 0:37:48.160
<v Speaker 1>and how you're performing as an athlete. So now you're

0:37:48.200 --> 0:37:50.320
<v Speaker 1>captain on the Chargers. How is your approach to the

0:37:50.360 --> 0:37:55.400
<v Speaker 1>game change from seventeen to it today? My approach hasn't

0:37:55.440 --> 0:37:58.000
<v Speaker 1>changed at all. The moment, you know, I was like, hey,

0:37:58.360 --> 0:38:01.320
<v Speaker 1>you have a pro day. Like, I literally dropped everything

0:38:01.400 --> 0:38:04.040
<v Speaker 1>and put every ounce of effort that I could into football.

0:38:04.280 --> 0:38:06.200
<v Speaker 1>I was like, this is the biggest opportunity I've ever had.

0:38:06.280 --> 0:38:08.400
<v Speaker 1>There's not gonna be any ounce of my body that says, hey,

0:38:08.440 --> 0:38:10.399
<v Speaker 1>I wish I would have tried harder. So I dropped everything.

0:38:10.400 --> 0:38:11.920
<v Speaker 1>I told my family, look, I know you guys are

0:38:11.920 --> 0:38:14.319
<v Speaker 1>excited for me, but like, just kind of just chill,

0:38:14.480 --> 0:38:17.400
<v Speaker 1>let me do this. I'll we'll talk after um, I

0:38:17.520 --> 0:38:19.640
<v Speaker 1>went and trained down in Denver, actually dropped out my

0:38:19.719 --> 0:38:22.520
<v Speaker 1>last semester of college just to focus on training um

0:38:22.719 --> 0:38:24.600
<v Speaker 1>and just went all in. I went all in as

0:38:25.000 --> 0:38:27.080
<v Speaker 1>as much as I possibly could. I did that, and

0:38:27.760 --> 0:38:30.080
<v Speaker 1>at the end of the fourth preseason game, I got

0:38:30.160 --> 0:38:31.919
<v Speaker 1>asked like, Hey, do you feel like you made the team,

0:38:31.920 --> 0:38:33.239
<v Speaker 1>And I was like, I don't know if I made

0:38:33.280 --> 0:38:35.160
<v Speaker 1>the team, but I do know one thing is that

0:38:35.239 --> 0:38:36.880
<v Speaker 1>I couldn't have tried any harder. That was all you

0:38:36.920 --> 0:38:39.240
<v Speaker 1>can get from austin effort. And that was my mindset

0:38:39.239 --> 0:38:41.960
<v Speaker 1>and that's stay with me because that's what's made me,

0:38:42.360 --> 0:38:45.040
<v Speaker 1>you know, take advantage of opportunities. Right. I ended up

0:38:45.080 --> 0:38:47.399
<v Speaker 1>making the team, and then my role was special teams

0:38:47.440 --> 0:38:49.800
<v Speaker 1>and special teams, and to me, I was never backup.

0:38:50.120 --> 0:38:52.279
<v Speaker 1>I'm not backup like I'm starting in my role. Like

0:38:52.520 --> 0:38:54.319
<v Speaker 1>on paper, I might be a backup, but I'm out

0:38:54.320 --> 0:38:56.040
<v Speaker 1>here and making my plays out here on special teams

0:38:56.040 --> 0:39:00.800
<v Speaker 1>because that's my opportunity. That's absolutely to to have a

0:39:01.080 --> 0:39:04.680
<v Speaker 1>have a winning product. Absolutely, And so that's what it

0:39:04.800 --> 0:39:07.040
<v Speaker 1>was for me, and that that mindset continued to stay

0:39:07.080 --> 0:39:08.680
<v Speaker 1>with me because it came in next year and now

0:39:08.680 --> 0:39:11.320
<v Speaker 1>I had more you know, offensive, you know action, just

0:39:11.400 --> 0:39:13.880
<v Speaker 1>because my role continued to change as I continue to

0:39:14.160 --> 0:39:18.399
<v Speaker 1>optimize my opportunities. And that's why I said, nothing's changed

0:39:18.400 --> 0:39:20.279
<v Speaker 1>beside my role, Like my mindset is still the same.

0:39:20.320 --> 0:39:22.200
<v Speaker 1>I still am, and now I'm even trying to help

0:39:22.239 --> 0:39:23.920
<v Speaker 1>my young guys, like guys who need I need you, Like,

0:39:24.040 --> 0:39:26.360
<v Speaker 1>let's go Like I'm not Derrick Henry out here is

0:39:26.400 --> 0:39:28.440
<v Speaker 1>a big old bruiser, you know, Nick Chubb. We can

0:39:28.480 --> 0:39:31.560
<v Speaker 1>take the entire game right, like I'm a hundred pound

0:39:31.719 --> 0:39:34.399
<v Speaker 1>five eight like, boys, I need you, let's go. Um.

0:39:34.800 --> 0:39:36.839
<v Speaker 1>Just good for them to like just have a positive room.

0:39:36.880 --> 0:39:38.759
<v Speaker 1>But it's it's been a progression as far as it's

0:39:38.760 --> 0:39:41.600
<v Speaker 1>just my role has changed, not necessarily my mind set.

0:39:42.280 --> 0:39:46.000
<v Speaker 1>Good do good, do good. Let's get down to do

0:39:46.200 --> 0:39:50.759
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0:40:00.719 --> 0:40:05.360
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0:40:05.520 --> 0:40:08.360
<v Speaker 1>being who you are and and and being raised on

0:40:08.400 --> 0:40:11.120
<v Speaker 1>the farm and dealing with what you dealt with gave

0:40:11.160 --> 0:40:14.239
<v Speaker 1>you every opportunity that was afforded to you. By being

0:40:14.280 --> 0:40:16.680
<v Speaker 1>at the right place at the right time and applying

0:40:16.760 --> 0:40:20.400
<v Speaker 1>the right amount of hard work on a consistent basis.

0:40:22.920 --> 0:40:27.319
<v Speaker 1>All of a sudden, Melvin Gordon believes he deserves more

0:40:27.400 --> 0:40:30.160
<v Speaker 1>money than they're offering. And that's where you that's where

0:40:30.160 --> 0:40:34.360
<v Speaker 1>an opportunity comes and you took full advantage of it.

0:40:36.560 --> 0:40:43.920
<v Speaker 1>How awkward, difficult? Interesting was it? You stepped into that

0:40:44.120 --> 0:40:46.759
<v Speaker 1>role and to the Atlanta's the head coach who used

0:40:46.760 --> 0:40:49.600
<v Speaker 1>to be a running backs coach, who understands right, very

0:40:50.160 --> 0:40:54.520
<v Speaker 1>level headed, You're getting your opportunity. Melvill Gordon's whole now

0:40:55.040 --> 0:40:58.960
<v Speaker 1>waiting for more money. Are you out here becoming a

0:40:59.040 --> 0:41:04.759
<v Speaker 1>start and running back based off of opportunity? How? How

0:41:04.840 --> 0:41:08.400
<v Speaker 1>did you? How did you handle that? And did it

0:41:08.480 --> 0:41:12.880
<v Speaker 1>ever become awkward because of you know, the current situation

0:41:13.360 --> 0:41:15.400
<v Speaker 1>at that time and it's been a few years now

0:41:15.440 --> 0:41:17.920
<v Speaker 1>and he's doing great, You're doing great. So it's just

0:41:18.040 --> 0:41:21.440
<v Speaker 1>more of I've always I've never had that, and so

0:41:21.640 --> 0:41:24.759
<v Speaker 1>this is an opportunity to ask you because very rarely

0:41:25.040 --> 0:41:27.759
<v Speaker 1>have we been afforded to talk to the you know,

0:41:27.880 --> 0:41:31.360
<v Speaker 1>I like to call it the wally pip right, somebody

0:41:31.680 --> 0:41:35.359
<v Speaker 1>got the opportunity. You took advantage of it by happenstance.

0:41:35.480 --> 0:41:37.600
<v Speaker 1>And you know, and that's just how it is. You

0:41:37.640 --> 0:41:39.520
<v Speaker 1>didn't get to pick it. You just you just get

0:41:39.560 --> 0:41:43.000
<v Speaker 1>to receive the opportunities to give him. Absolutely. That's yeah.

0:41:43.200 --> 0:41:45.400
<v Speaker 1>You couldn't said any better. You know. That's what we

0:41:45.480 --> 0:41:46.560
<v Speaker 1>have to deal with, right that. So we have to

0:41:46.600 --> 0:41:48.840
<v Speaker 1>stay patient and stay patient and deal with opportunity that

0:41:48.840 --> 0:41:51.640
<v Speaker 1>you have a hand. And in that situation, even leading

0:41:51.680 --> 0:41:53.680
<v Speaker 1>up to that, the year before the year before that,

0:41:54.000 --> 0:41:57.840
<v Speaker 1>before he us held out like we were splitting. It

0:41:57.920 --> 0:42:00.400
<v Speaker 1>wasn't and I wasn't doing bad. Man. You asked the

0:42:00.440 --> 0:42:05.600
<v Speaker 1>fantasy community, like, man, you're killing it the first time

0:42:05.719 --> 0:42:11.400
<v Speaker 1>ever on cut to a fantasy community. He is a

0:42:11.680 --> 0:42:17.640
<v Speaker 1>character witness to Austin acklers career on trial. Oh yeah,

0:42:18.600 --> 0:42:22.360
<v Speaker 1>with the fantasy community, he got segments on it stuff.

0:42:22.800 --> 0:42:25.319
<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, I'm in there. I told you about community, man,

0:42:25.320 --> 0:42:29.520
<v Speaker 1>about people. But like I'm playing, I'm playing well. I'm consistent, man,

0:42:29.560 --> 0:42:31.600
<v Speaker 1>I'm efficient. Like I'm not flashy or anything like that.

0:42:31.680 --> 0:42:34.719
<v Speaker 1>They've been flashy, but I'm consistent. Efficient. And what do

0:42:34.760 --> 0:42:36.279
<v Speaker 1>you need this Lee? You need to be consistent, you

0:42:36.320 --> 0:42:39.480
<v Speaker 1>need be efficient, right, And so he came into that year,

0:42:39.719 --> 0:42:43.000
<v Speaker 1>and he told us actually in UM and O t

0:42:43.120 --> 0:42:45.000
<v Speaker 1>A he's gonna be holding out, and just like like

0:42:45.239 --> 0:42:47.520
<v Speaker 1>that's the situation, that's what they've decided. On his end,

0:42:47.560 --> 0:42:50.320
<v Speaker 1>it's like, well, I mean that changes nothing for me.

0:42:50.480 --> 0:42:52.040
<v Speaker 1>My mindset is still the same. Man. Now I'm gonna

0:42:52.080 --> 0:42:54.319
<v Speaker 1>now my roles changed. But guess what, I'm still coming

0:42:54.320 --> 0:42:56.319
<v Speaker 1>in as a starter. Now I'm actually started on paper.

0:42:56.600 --> 0:42:58.200
<v Speaker 1>And I get three games and I had I don't

0:42:58.200 --> 0:43:01.960
<v Speaker 1>even know I was going off though, that was going off,

0:43:02.000 --> 0:43:04.360
<v Speaker 1>and it kind of just I think it shook shook

0:43:04.400 --> 0:43:06.560
<v Speaker 1>it up, shook up the situation. Then he ended up

0:43:06.560 --> 0:43:10.839
<v Speaker 1>coming back and he expected It's like wait a minute, like, um,

0:43:11.440 --> 0:43:13.080
<v Speaker 1>I gotta make sure I get back and get my reps.

0:43:13.120 --> 0:43:15.319
<v Speaker 1>And I heard him, man, I heard him. I feel

0:43:15.360 --> 0:43:17.080
<v Speaker 1>bad for the guy too, because it's like you sat

0:43:17.120 --> 0:43:20.000
<v Speaker 1>out all this time. And it was so obvious too,

0:43:20.080 --> 0:43:21.680
<v Speaker 1>because when he came back, it was just like it

0:43:21.719 --> 0:43:23.400
<v Speaker 1>wasn't the same melvil Gordon that I've been used to

0:43:23.400 --> 0:43:25.719
<v Speaker 1>see him. Right, it's because he missed all the O

0:43:25.840 --> 0:43:28.320
<v Speaker 1>t A s, all preseason four games and then just

0:43:28.400 --> 0:43:32.080
<v Speaker 1>kind of get thrown in. You can't simulate. You can

0:43:32.160 --> 0:43:35.799
<v Speaker 1>train all you want. You can't simulate game speed. Never.

0:43:36.160 --> 0:43:40.840
<v Speaker 1>You never when he tells you in training camp, I

0:43:40.880 --> 0:43:43.960
<v Speaker 1>mean he tells you an as I'm sitting out head,

0:43:44.600 --> 0:43:47.960
<v Speaker 1>you know, in the helmet, you're like really, but in

0:43:48.040 --> 0:43:51.840
<v Speaker 1>your heart, what were you thinking? I already knew I

0:43:51.840 --> 0:43:55.480
<v Speaker 1>was gonna give my reps. Getting my reps. Man, you

0:43:55.600 --> 0:43:58.839
<v Speaker 1>were like, I just got four more rents appreciated. It's

0:43:58.880 --> 0:44:01.359
<v Speaker 1>not even about that. I know what you're saying. I'm

0:44:01.440 --> 0:44:05.160
<v Speaker 1>just asking because this stuff like that just doesn't happen, like, hey, yo,

0:44:05.360 --> 0:44:08.880
<v Speaker 1>I'm holding out. It's more like he's holding out shocker

0:44:09.400 --> 0:44:14.479
<v Speaker 1>like opportunity in preparation meat. Absolutely absolutely, I was ready.

0:44:14.520 --> 0:44:16.239
<v Speaker 1>I was already ready. I was ready before then. And

0:44:16.280 --> 0:44:17.799
<v Speaker 1>now I was like, hey, now you're gonna get a test.

0:44:17.880 --> 0:44:19.759
<v Speaker 1>This is a test opportunity. Can you can you carry

0:44:19.760 --> 0:44:22.279
<v Speaker 1>the load? Which after four weeks of carrying lett I

0:44:22.320 --> 0:44:26.560
<v Speaker 1>was like god damn, which I was like, dank, God,

0:44:26.600 --> 0:44:33.520
<v Speaker 1>He's back, Like my body man. They're like, man, hey mom,

0:44:33.600 --> 0:44:35.279
<v Speaker 1>I know I'm a starter, but I needed to get

0:44:35.360 --> 0:44:37.200
<v Speaker 1>I need to get some of these other pasts that

0:44:38.960 --> 0:44:40.839
<v Speaker 1>you actually kind of land into the next question, what's

0:44:40.960 --> 0:44:43.360
<v Speaker 1>what's your offseason? Regiment consists of you're known for the

0:44:43.360 --> 0:44:44.640
<v Speaker 1>way you take care of your body. What does that

0:44:44.719 --> 0:44:48.759
<v Speaker 1>regiment look like? Number five at hey listen, Hey, I'm five.

0:44:50.040 --> 0:44:53.920
<v Speaker 1>I don't know. Working out man, that's literally what I do.

0:44:53.960 --> 0:44:56.960
<v Speaker 1>I'm working out, gym, working out Jim rab Bro. It's

0:44:57.000 --> 0:44:59.440
<v Speaker 1>just it's like therapeutic for me, honestly, Like I'm working out,

0:44:59.640 --> 0:45:01.200
<v Speaker 1>like I don't know if you seen my videos, it's

0:45:01.239 --> 0:45:02.879
<v Speaker 1>just like what I do. I just I just work

0:45:02.960 --> 0:45:05.719
<v Speaker 1>out videos and now I have a few video. I

0:45:05.760 --> 0:45:07.120
<v Speaker 1>do a couple of challenge. I did that like one

0:45:07.200 --> 0:45:08.960
<v Speaker 1>arm pull up, I did like four one arm pull ups.

0:45:08.960 --> 0:45:10.800
<v Speaker 1>And I did like the four or five squad challenge.

0:45:11.640 --> 0:45:15.360
<v Speaker 1>No One like thirteen reps on four or five challenge,

0:45:15.520 --> 0:45:17.279
<v Speaker 1>challenging people like I hear like, hey, we's out here

0:45:17.360 --> 0:45:21.520
<v Speaker 1>lifting like this four five you know. Just that's just

0:45:21.960 --> 0:45:23.400
<v Speaker 1>that's just who I am. Like, I mean, like, guess what,

0:45:23.640 --> 0:45:26.040
<v Speaker 1>That's what I do. Baby. It really is like it's

0:45:26.320 --> 0:45:27.960
<v Speaker 1>it's like my happy place when I'm just want to

0:45:27.960 --> 0:45:29.799
<v Speaker 1>get away clear to mind, Like I just go lift,

0:45:29.840 --> 0:45:31.760
<v Speaker 1>like when I'm bye week, you know, and they're getting

0:45:31.760 --> 0:45:37.799
<v Speaker 1>a good lifting this morning, full five out of here.

0:45:38.239 --> 0:45:40.560
<v Speaker 1>My knees may say my knees, Hey, we gotta you

0:45:40.640 --> 0:45:47.040
<v Speaker 1>know who a c L M pcl l c L

0:45:47.160 --> 0:45:52.799
<v Speaker 1>We're not gonna be here. How was the jump from

0:45:52.880 --> 0:45:56.400
<v Speaker 1>D two to the NFL for me particularly, There's a

0:45:56.520 --> 0:45:59.880
<v Speaker 1>lot of unknowns, so many unknowns because I didn't come

0:45:59.880 --> 0:46:01.680
<v Speaker 1>for D two that like, hey, they've had a few

0:46:01.800 --> 0:46:04.440
<v Speaker 1>NFL you know guys in the past, like it was me,

0:46:05.760 --> 0:46:07.080
<v Speaker 1>but it was me. I was the first one that

0:46:07.120 --> 0:46:09.120
<v Speaker 1>made it from the NFL. They've never even seen a

0:46:09.239 --> 0:46:12.799
<v Speaker 1>call NFL scout up at you know, Western Colorado before.

0:46:15.120 --> 0:46:19.759
<v Speaker 1>I'm not I'm not happy, that's the thing. So there

0:46:19.840 --> 0:46:21.759
<v Speaker 1>was so much uncertainty, Like I didn't know if I

0:46:21.840 --> 0:46:24.200
<v Speaker 1>was good. I was definitely good in my situation, and

0:46:24.280 --> 0:46:27.040
<v Speaker 1>D two dominated for four years, but it was as

0:46:27.080 --> 0:46:29.879
<v Speaker 1>far as like, you know, D one or even even

0:46:29.960 --> 0:46:32.680
<v Speaker 1>further going into the NFL is like I don't understand

0:46:32.840 --> 0:46:36.279
<v Speaker 1>or know how I like, you know, compared to these guys, right,

0:46:36.280 --> 0:46:37.440
<v Speaker 1>And I didn't know that until I got to my

0:46:37.520 --> 0:46:39.080
<v Speaker 1>pro day and I was like, you know, like I

0:46:39.160 --> 0:46:41.840
<v Speaker 1>can hang, like my measurables are great, like you know,

0:46:41.960 --> 0:46:45.120
<v Speaker 1>my mind, I feel like with it, you know, mentally,

0:46:45.200 --> 0:46:49.239
<v Speaker 1>I can understand a playbook. Definitely struggled, but that was

0:46:49.440 --> 0:46:51.960
<v Speaker 1>that was the biggest thing. That was the unknown, which

0:46:52.239 --> 0:46:54.160
<v Speaker 1>I mean it's probably the same from D one to

0:46:54.280 --> 0:46:56.880
<v Speaker 1>D to NFL, but from D two, I'm not around

0:46:56.920 --> 0:46:59.000
<v Speaker 1>any of these guys like, oh, you know, I have

0:46:59.040 --> 0:47:00.719
<v Speaker 1>a buddy that played here last year that's in the

0:47:00.800 --> 0:47:02.640
<v Speaker 1>league now he's not telling me. I didn't have any

0:47:02.680 --> 0:47:04.480
<v Speaker 1>of that. So I think the biggest thing was just

0:47:04.800 --> 0:47:06.320
<v Speaker 1>That's why I cared so much about it. I was

0:47:06.360 --> 0:47:08.120
<v Speaker 1>just like, hey, I'm putting everything into this. I'm going

0:47:08.160 --> 0:47:10.279
<v Speaker 1>to blind. You're going to blind. You better make sure

0:47:10.280 --> 0:47:12.880
<v Speaker 1>you're prepared, right. So that's what That's what it was

0:47:12.920 --> 0:47:15.640
<v Speaker 1>for me, And that was the biggest Was it the

0:47:15.760 --> 0:47:17.440
<v Speaker 1>Pro Day that made it feel real? When did it

0:47:17.480 --> 0:47:21.440
<v Speaker 1>get real, really really real, real real as in like

0:47:21.719 --> 0:47:24.279
<v Speaker 1>hey I might have a shot. I think it was

0:47:24.320 --> 0:47:26.440
<v Speaker 1>when we were Pro day training, when I was training

0:47:26.480 --> 0:47:28.560
<v Speaker 1>for my Pro Day because then I'm around because I

0:47:28.560 --> 0:47:30.360
<v Speaker 1>actually trained with Christi McCaffrey. So it was like a

0:47:30.440 --> 0:47:33.520
<v Speaker 1>perfect like comparison for me today, Okay, let me size

0:47:33.560 --> 0:47:35.920
<v Speaker 1>myself up, like I was way stronger than him, and

0:47:36.320 --> 0:47:37.920
<v Speaker 1>I mean, yeah, he was faster and had you know

0:47:38.880 --> 0:47:40.880
<v Speaker 1>his dad obviously, Ed was helping him as far as

0:47:40.960 --> 0:47:42.880
<v Speaker 1>like technique stuff like that. So I can see them

0:47:42.920 --> 0:47:46.759
<v Speaker 1>working and I'm watching him move around like he has

0:47:46.760 --> 0:47:48.759
<v Speaker 1>definitely his strength at my strength. But I was like,

0:47:48.880 --> 0:47:50.920
<v Speaker 1>you know what, like, you know, I can hang with

0:47:51.000 --> 0:47:53.279
<v Speaker 1>this guy. Um. And that's where it really started to

0:47:53.280 --> 0:47:56.359
<v Speaker 1>become real for me. Um. Was was during pro day

0:47:56.360 --> 0:47:58.400
<v Speaker 1>training getting around some of the other d one some

0:47:58.480 --> 0:48:01.759
<v Speaker 1>of the draft picks u UM. And then yeah, then

0:48:02.480 --> 0:48:04.320
<v Speaker 1>got my opportunity when you had your pro day? Was

0:48:04.360 --> 0:48:06.319
<v Speaker 1>it at the college or was down at the at

0:48:06.360 --> 0:48:10.640
<v Speaker 1>the facility you were training. So Western Colorado is in

0:48:10.719 --> 0:48:13.839
<v Speaker 1>the mountains about seven thousand, eight hundred feet so during

0:48:13.960 --> 0:48:17.120
<v Speaker 1>pro day time of year, there's snow everywhere on the ground.

0:48:17.960 --> 0:48:19.920
<v Speaker 1>So I had to go to see you because we

0:48:19.960 --> 0:48:24.480
<v Speaker 1>don't have indoor up there, so literally the snow, y'all

0:48:24.520 --> 0:48:28.640
<v Speaker 1>were practicing outside. Yeah, so our our spring ball wasn't

0:48:28.680 --> 0:48:31.040
<v Speaker 1>util really late until the snow starts to melt because

0:48:31.040 --> 0:48:32.880
<v Speaker 1>they literally had to come in with like bulldozers and

0:48:32.960 --> 0:48:35.160
<v Speaker 1>take the snow out of the town because it doesn't melt,

0:48:35.200 --> 0:48:39.080
<v Speaker 1>it just stays around during the winter. Yeah, crazy, crazy

0:48:39.120 --> 0:48:44.719
<v Speaker 1>little town on the pamphlet. Yeah, you screw your air

0:48:45.480 --> 0:48:49.520
<v Speaker 1>Airbnb money up. Yeah. Yeah, so you have to go

0:48:49.600 --> 0:48:52.799
<v Speaker 1>to your University of Colorado, yeah, see your boulder. Yeah.

0:48:53.680 --> 0:48:56.120
<v Speaker 1>And so you did your pro day. Did you have

0:48:56.239 --> 0:48:59.440
<v Speaker 1>to I'm imagining you had to seek permission? Yeah. So

0:48:59.480 --> 0:49:01.360
<v Speaker 1>it's actually a savage the way they did it because

0:49:02.160 --> 0:49:04.120
<v Speaker 1>you had to see permission to be in what they

0:49:04.160 --> 0:49:05.960
<v Speaker 1>called like the add on group, which is let to

0:49:06.000 --> 0:49:09.200
<v Speaker 1>see you guys go. And then after the add on group,

0:49:09.239 --> 0:49:11.040
<v Speaker 1>which I was a part of, and so there's like

0:49:11.120 --> 0:49:13.200
<v Speaker 1>twenty of us and they let all of us run

0:49:13.239 --> 0:49:15.080
<v Speaker 1>a forty and they let all of us do the jumps,

0:49:15.160 --> 0:49:17.440
<v Speaker 1>and then after that they cut everyone besides me in

0:49:17.520 --> 0:49:20.640
<v Speaker 1>some other corner. So there was there was like eighteen

0:49:20.880 --> 0:49:22.880
<v Speaker 1>twenty people that are just like, hey, we don't need

0:49:22.880 --> 0:49:26.479
<v Speaker 1>to see anymore. And so straight up I was just like, wow,

0:49:26.680 --> 0:49:28.839
<v Speaker 1>these people were You can imagine how they're feeling because

0:49:28.880 --> 0:49:31.440
<v Speaker 1>they just trained all this and they just did a

0:49:31.520 --> 0:49:34.799
<v Speaker 1>couple of measurables and they were done, didn't do any drills, nothing. Um,

0:49:35.000 --> 0:49:36.480
<v Speaker 1>So they cut it down to two of us and

0:49:36.640 --> 0:49:38.400
<v Speaker 1>so it was me. I did some running back drills,

0:49:38.480 --> 0:49:41.160
<v Speaker 1>ended up the day and it finished out the day.

0:49:41.200 --> 0:49:43.440
<v Speaker 1>So luckily I made the cut and got the opportunity

0:49:43.480 --> 0:49:45.480
<v Speaker 1>most of the scout stage to watch me in that

0:49:45.600 --> 0:49:49.160
<v Speaker 1>corner um perform in the corner. I don't remember who

0:49:49.200 --> 0:49:51.160
<v Speaker 1>he was. I don't even know, but yeah, there was

0:49:51.200 --> 0:49:57.920
<v Speaker 1>a lot of upset agents trainers. They're yelling at the

0:49:57.960 --> 0:50:01.400
<v Speaker 1>scouts man like this is a b something like straight up,

0:50:02.120 --> 0:50:07.439
<v Speaker 1>straight upright drills, Like hey, what, I made the cut,

0:50:07.560 --> 0:50:10.000
<v Speaker 1>so I'm gonna go do some drills as my son,

0:50:10.239 --> 0:50:18.279
<v Speaker 1>as my son Peyton would say, I think this is

0:50:18.320 --> 0:50:20.600
<v Speaker 1>an interesting one. So I have to be very careful.

0:50:20.880 --> 0:50:26.440
<v Speaker 1>I say this. You're a Los Angeles Charger, but you

0:50:26.600 --> 0:50:29.000
<v Speaker 1>weren't always a Los Angeles Charger. At some point you

0:50:29.080 --> 0:50:33.960
<v Speaker 1>were San Diego Charger. I was never saying, no, I've

0:50:34.040 --> 0:50:37.799
<v Speaker 1>always been in l a Charger. Okay five years, man,

0:50:37.880 --> 0:50:41.319
<v Speaker 1>we've been up for a while now. Yeah it's been

0:50:41.360 --> 0:50:45.640
<v Speaker 1>a minute. It has. The reason I was I phrased

0:50:45.680 --> 0:50:49.239
<v Speaker 1>it that way is when you guys were at the

0:50:50.120 --> 0:50:53.800
<v Speaker 1>I think it was the home depot center right, and

0:50:54.280 --> 0:50:59.480
<v Speaker 1>or playing at the soccer stadium. Oh yeah, when yes,

0:50:59.600 --> 0:51:03.000
<v Speaker 1>we y'all first got there, it was like away game

0:51:03.400 --> 0:51:08.360
<v Speaker 1>every game because I worked that game. Bro. It was

0:51:08.560 --> 0:51:13.320
<v Speaker 1>like when when the San Diego Chargers left, right, because

0:51:13.320 --> 0:51:15.439
<v Speaker 1>I know you know Eric, Eric Weddle made him played

0:51:15.480 --> 0:51:18.480
<v Speaker 1>college ball together, right, and he was telling me how

0:51:20.040 --> 0:51:24.000
<v Speaker 1>like just how bad it was, like the fans just

0:51:24.360 --> 0:51:26.960
<v Speaker 1>did not want them to leave, and it was a

0:51:27.080 --> 0:51:30.640
<v Speaker 1>city and and NFL thing, right, it wasn't and the

0:51:30.719 --> 0:51:33.840
<v Speaker 1>fans got caught in the middle. And when they were

0:51:33.840 --> 0:51:36.720
<v Speaker 1>at the Stubhubs. Man, it was like a way game

0:51:36.920 --> 0:51:41.719
<v Speaker 1>for them. Every game that's a different dynamic. Bro. I'm

0:51:41.960 --> 0:51:46.560
<v Speaker 1>like every game in my in my exaggerating, I had

0:51:46.600 --> 0:51:49.080
<v Speaker 1>played away games. We had to go on silent counting

0:51:49.080 --> 0:51:54.439
<v Speaker 1>our own home games for like still still yeah, yeah, yeah,

0:51:54.560 --> 0:51:56.759
<v Speaker 1>I mean it's it's tough with y'all balling though, y'all

0:51:56.800 --> 0:51:59.520
<v Speaker 1>balling right now. Yeah, So let me ask let me

0:51:59.520 --> 0:52:03.160
<v Speaker 1>ask you one, oh yeah, just far. Did you always

0:52:03.160 --> 0:52:05.000
<v Speaker 1>know you're gonna get into some type of podcast or

0:52:05.000 --> 0:52:09.319
<v Speaker 1>how'd you come into this space? Cont A great question, great, bro,

0:52:09.480 --> 0:52:11.080
<v Speaker 1>These dudes been working on me for like two or

0:52:11.080 --> 0:52:16.120
<v Speaker 1>three years. Podcast a podcast. To me back in the

0:52:16.239 --> 0:52:17.680
<v Speaker 1>day when they were trying to get me do it

0:52:17.840 --> 0:52:23.680
<v Speaker 1>was like blue cheese, which I hate, Like I had

0:52:23.760 --> 0:52:27.319
<v Speaker 1>no desire to do a podcast, like I wouldn't even

0:52:27.360 --> 0:52:29.680
<v Speaker 1>listen to podcasts. You asked me, asked me to go

0:52:29.760 --> 0:52:31.840
<v Speaker 1>on the podcast, Like I'm not doing that ship on

0:52:31.920 --> 0:52:35.759
<v Speaker 1>a podcast, stupid podcast. Yeah. Now I'm like, hey, you

0:52:35.800 --> 0:52:39.040
<v Speaker 1>want to come on the podcast. Hey, Steve, come on

0:52:39.120 --> 0:52:43.080
<v Speaker 1>the podcast. I just started doing it. I started doing

0:52:43.120 --> 0:52:47.680
<v Speaker 1>a podcast. So we were in we're going to We're

0:52:47.680 --> 0:52:50.880
<v Speaker 1>actually going to Colorado. We're in Colorado, We're going to college,

0:52:51.920 --> 0:52:54.720
<v Speaker 1>and he was like, bro, you should think about a podcast.

0:52:54.760 --> 0:52:56.480
<v Speaker 1>I said, all right, which we've been talking about for

0:52:57.239 --> 0:53:01.759
<v Speaker 1>about a year at least. Yeah, I'm all right, I'll

0:53:01.760 --> 0:53:04.759
<v Speaker 1>do the podcast on the one condition we're doing my

0:53:04.840 --> 0:53:13.359
<v Speaker 1>wife and whatever the way was it gonna be right?

0:53:13.480 --> 0:53:15.279
<v Speaker 1>And so how I did it is I said, all right,

0:53:15.400 --> 0:53:17.680
<v Speaker 1>if we're gonna do the podcast, let's do it in

0:53:17.760 --> 0:53:19.200
<v Speaker 1>the way. And he was like, well, what do you

0:53:19.280 --> 0:53:23.680
<v Speaker 1>mean your way? Well, being a figure that the athletic

0:53:23.960 --> 0:53:28.560
<v Speaker 1>figure I am, people would always have a disposition or

0:53:28.680 --> 0:53:32.239
<v Speaker 1>prejudice towards me, or you're like a preconceived, preconceived notion

0:53:32.360 --> 0:53:34.080
<v Speaker 1>like I had a guy I spoke at the event

0:53:34.200 --> 0:53:35.440
<v Speaker 1>a couple of weeks ago, and I had a guy

0:53:35.520 --> 0:53:37.640
<v Speaker 1>This is what he told me, straight in my face.

0:53:37.960 --> 0:53:41.160
<v Speaker 1>No lie, straight facts boy, no way boy, that's what

0:53:41.280 --> 0:53:43.800
<v Speaker 1>he says. I never really liked you as a football player,

0:53:44.000 --> 0:53:48.800
<v Speaker 1>but as a man man, really respect you. Like I

0:53:48.840 --> 0:53:50.960
<v Speaker 1>didn't know how to take that. And then he handed

0:53:51.000 --> 0:53:53.440
<v Speaker 1>me his business card. Would you like to know what

0:53:53.520 --> 0:53:57.400
<v Speaker 1>I did with that business card? I looked at it

0:53:59.040 --> 0:54:03.960
<v Speaker 1>and I googled his stuff because I just didn't understand

0:54:04.880 --> 0:54:08.120
<v Speaker 1>how he thought he was giving me a compliment. I

0:54:08.239 --> 0:54:13.239
<v Speaker 1>didn't like you as a player, like, okay, like I'm

0:54:13.280 --> 0:54:17.000
<v Speaker 1>not a restaurant. You could choose, But I just didn't

0:54:17.040 --> 0:54:19.400
<v Speaker 1>know how to take it. And I really feel like

0:54:19.520 --> 0:54:21.759
<v Speaker 1>that's how a lot of people are. They either like

0:54:21.960 --> 0:54:26.719
<v Speaker 1>you and there are they are Austin Neckler, Steve Smith fan,

0:54:27.480 --> 0:54:32.520
<v Speaker 1>or they're not, and nothing you can do will change that. Actually,

0:54:32.640 --> 0:54:36.680
<v Speaker 1>the more stuff that you humanize yourself that actually turns

0:54:36.719 --> 0:54:38.279
<v Speaker 1>him off there like oh he's trying to act like

0:54:38.360 --> 0:54:42.400
<v Speaker 1>he's a regular guy. How dare him? And so I

0:54:42.480 --> 0:54:45.319
<v Speaker 1>took the podcast, said all right, we do it. Let's

0:54:45.480 --> 0:54:49.120
<v Speaker 1>let's do the podcast on sports. Let's talk to sports people,

0:54:49.800 --> 0:54:52.600
<v Speaker 1>but let's talk about them. So the nickname of you know,

0:54:52.760 --> 0:54:58.520
<v Speaker 1>we went through all these names, uh, copastatic Um, cutting

0:54:58.560 --> 0:55:04.560
<v Speaker 1>room Floor, Uh, the flat Bill chronicles. These are some

0:55:04.640 --> 0:55:09.160
<v Speaker 1>of nowhere behind the scenes, behind the scenes of the

0:55:12.120 --> 0:55:19.560
<v Speaker 1>that was That was? That was Bill. Yeah, Well, let

0:55:19.600 --> 0:55:22.520
<v Speaker 1>me say this, man, I think you're in the right space, man,

0:55:22.560 --> 0:55:24.640
<v Speaker 1>because I think I think we need more people like

0:55:24.719 --> 0:55:28.200
<v Speaker 1>yourself that are actually willing capable of doing this, because

0:55:29.239 --> 0:55:31.480
<v Speaker 1>there's so much to break down when it comes to

0:55:31.480 --> 0:55:33.640
<v Speaker 1>the building blocks of how people become who they are,

0:55:33.719 --> 0:55:39.040
<v Speaker 1>and especially someone if you're your caliber of just influence,

0:55:39.600 --> 0:55:42.000
<v Speaker 1>like you have connections to people and that people will

0:55:42.000 --> 0:55:45.040
<v Speaker 1>talk to you, it will come on your podcast. What's

0:55:45.080 --> 0:55:49.000
<v Speaker 1>that I don't utilize as much connections that I have, bro.

0:55:49.160 --> 0:55:53.759
<v Speaker 1>I really struggle with my connections because of the insecurity,

0:55:53.840 --> 0:55:55.799
<v Speaker 1>because of some of the stuff that I've I've dealt

0:55:55.840 --> 0:56:00.520
<v Speaker 1>with growing up that I just and because how how

0:56:00.600 --> 0:56:02.400
<v Speaker 1>many people want things from us. I don't want to

0:56:02.440 --> 0:56:04.840
<v Speaker 1>be that guy that's that's one thing from other people,

0:56:05.719 --> 0:56:12.399
<v Speaker 1>and so it is the internal dialogue is and I'm

0:56:12.440 --> 0:56:15.560
<v Speaker 1>just like everybody else, asking people for their time, asking

0:56:15.640 --> 0:56:18.560
<v Speaker 1>them for something, and so I kind of but I

0:56:18.719 --> 0:56:23.320
<v Speaker 1>have to this podcast also as actually stretches me because

0:56:23.400 --> 0:56:27.600
<v Speaker 1>now I have to say, which as a young man

0:56:27.680 --> 0:56:29.200
<v Speaker 1>who's dealt with some of the things I dealt with,

0:56:29.360 --> 0:56:33.360
<v Speaker 1>I need you. I need you to help me on

0:56:33.480 --> 0:56:38.480
<v Speaker 1>my podcast. Will you broke a lot of like talking

0:56:38.560 --> 0:56:42.319
<v Speaker 1>myself into it. Man, I got a guy right now,

0:56:43.280 --> 0:56:45.239
<v Speaker 1>I'm not gonna say that I want to have on

0:56:45.360 --> 0:56:49.720
<v Speaker 1>the podcast. And I hesitate on asking that individual because

0:56:49.760 --> 0:56:52.320
<v Speaker 1>I don't want to come off the wrong way. I

0:56:52.360 --> 0:56:54.759
<v Speaker 1>don't want him to come off feeling used by me.

0:56:55.520 --> 0:56:59.920
<v Speaker 1>M hmm. Yeah, I'm saying there is there's somebody mine

0:57:00.000 --> 0:57:02.240
<v Speaker 1>said that you can have when it comes to a podcast,

0:57:02.800 --> 0:57:05.520
<v Speaker 1>and I'll play I'll play Devil's advocate. I'll I'll play

0:57:05.520 --> 0:57:09.080
<v Speaker 1>the other side, you know, from from someone like my

0:57:09.640 --> 0:57:13.319
<v Speaker 1>perception of this even how you can approach people, it's

0:57:13.400 --> 0:57:16.000
<v Speaker 1>like it's just breaking it down, Like I said, let's

0:57:16.040 --> 0:57:18.000
<v Speaker 1>let's break down life. Let's go let's chat it out

0:57:18.040 --> 0:57:20.040
<v Speaker 1>as casual, like like how you keep it casual right,

0:57:20.080 --> 0:57:22.480
<v Speaker 1>because it's it's not like you're asking, It's like, let's

0:57:22.640 --> 0:57:24.880
<v Speaker 1>let's just shoot the ship. Yeah, let's let's go, let's

0:57:24.880 --> 0:57:28.080
<v Speaker 1>go to let's we wanted one of the names chop

0:57:28.160 --> 0:57:31.520
<v Speaker 1>it up? Yeah, that was I was taking it. Does

0:57:32.200 --> 0:57:35.560
<v Speaker 1>it does. He was shooting the breeze, that's what it was.

0:57:35.640 --> 0:57:41.160
<v Speaker 1>And the brief. Yeah, we we went, yeah, we went

0:57:41.200 --> 0:57:43.680
<v Speaker 1>down there, keeping it cope asthetic. So he kept going

0:57:43.760 --> 0:57:46.640
<v Speaker 1>off the West coast keeping the copasthetic. Uh. There was

0:57:46.680 --> 0:57:48.720
<v Speaker 1>a dude that had it, but he had a different word,

0:57:49.240 --> 0:57:53.000
<v Speaker 1>but his keeping a cop he actually his podcast is uh,

0:57:53.360 --> 0:57:57.040
<v Speaker 1>he served time and so his is uh they communicate

0:57:57.240 --> 0:57:59.919
<v Speaker 1>with other guys that are coming back into the world

0:58:00.160 --> 0:58:01.640
<v Speaker 1>through prison. I was like, man, I don't want to.

0:58:01.680 --> 0:58:04.280
<v Speaker 1>I don't want to infridge or get our name mixed up.

0:58:04.320 --> 0:58:05.720
<v Speaker 1>So I was like, we're just gonna stay away from

0:58:05.800 --> 0:58:07.160
<v Speaker 1>it because it was a dude from the West Coast

0:58:07.240 --> 0:58:09.520
<v Speaker 1>doing this thing. And I was like, nah, man, you

0:58:09.600 --> 0:58:11.880
<v Speaker 1>know it's already. It's it's tough in these streets already.

0:58:11.880 --> 0:58:14.280
<v Speaker 1>I don't need you don't I don't need competition. I

0:58:14.320 --> 0:58:18.160
<v Speaker 1>don't want to take from him. M So yeah, So man,

0:58:18.680 --> 0:58:20.400
<v Speaker 1>this has been pretty I mean, you can't ask for

0:58:20.440 --> 0:58:22.320
<v Speaker 1>a better for a better wrap up than that. And

0:58:22.720 --> 0:58:24.960
<v Speaker 1>we got and we got Austin to coast. Honest man,

0:58:25.480 --> 0:58:28.400
<v Speaker 1>I like that. Come on. So I'll tell you, um,

0:58:29.400 --> 0:58:32.520
<v Speaker 1>you know, the whole premise on the podcast is just

0:58:32.640 --> 0:58:35.480
<v Speaker 1>really like you're saying, it's just conversation is being about

0:58:35.520 --> 0:58:38.080
<v Speaker 1>you and learning about you. Because there are some fans

0:58:38.160 --> 0:58:40.480
<v Speaker 1>who I don't know what you experienced. They just see

0:58:40.480 --> 0:58:42.160
<v Speaker 1>you on the football field, right, They just see what

0:58:42.240 --> 0:58:44.160
<v Speaker 1>you tweet or or what you have on I G

0:58:44.400 --> 0:58:46.919
<v Speaker 1>or Facebook or Twitch, whatever it is. But they don't

0:58:46.960 --> 0:58:49.520
<v Speaker 1>hit a real story that realized that grew up on

0:58:49.560 --> 0:58:51.760
<v Speaker 1>the farm, getting up, getting up at six in the

0:58:51.840 --> 0:58:58.080
<v Speaker 1>morning to chisel water and then getting getting your ass

0:58:58.240 --> 0:59:10.440
<v Speaker 1>beat by goat every morning. Right, no linebacker easy? So

0:59:10.560 --> 0:59:13.320
<v Speaker 1>what was that building? Ghosts name? We didn't name it,

0:59:13.880 --> 0:59:16.000
<v Speaker 1>shooting name. It still mean. We had another goat that

0:59:16.080 --> 0:59:18.680
<v Speaker 1>was named Betsy. We like Betsy, but that name that one,

0:59:19.000 --> 0:59:21.320
<v Speaker 1>we didn't name that one. That's a black folks right

0:59:21.440 --> 0:59:24.680
<v Speaker 1>name right there, Betsy. That's like a like a car

0:59:24.960 --> 0:59:31.080
<v Speaker 1>or something, brown Oldsmobile. That was our car, brown Oldsmobile.

0:59:31.400 --> 0:59:33.560
<v Speaker 1>Her name was. We had a we had arrested blue

0:59:33.560 --> 0:59:41.760
<v Speaker 1>shaving Caprice Betsy. No, it wasn't all right. Well, I'll

0:59:41.800 --> 0:59:43.400
<v Speaker 1>tell you what though, my wife is gonna be mad

0:59:43.480 --> 0:59:45.440
<v Speaker 1>that you talked her. Talk to me out of getting

0:59:45.440 --> 0:59:49.800
<v Speaker 1>this phone. Don't do it. Don't do it. Appreciate it.

0:59:50.720 --> 0:59:54.480
<v Speaker 1>You are a unique person, you are well worth it,

0:59:56.160 --> 1:00:00.760
<v Speaker 1>you are competent, and most of all, your lovable. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>Steve smith Singer, I'm Gerard Little John and this is

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