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Speaker 1: Welcome. It is Verdict with Ted Cruz Weekend Review. Ben

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Speaker 1: Ferguson with you, and here are the big stories that

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Speaker 1: you may have missed that we talked about this week.

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Speaker 1: First up, Donald Trump and the governor of Maine. They

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Speaker 1: come to blows over men in women's sports, the Present

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Speaker 1: making clear he's going to protect women in sports no

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Speaker 1: matter what. So what happens on the legal front next,

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Speaker 1: we'll have that for you. Also, there is now a

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Speaker 1: big question after the House passed a huge budget resolution

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Speaker 1: and a big beautiful bill, So what does the timeframe

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Speaker 1: look like to actually have a real budget that has passed?

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Speaker 1: And what does it mean for the taxpayers? Will there

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Speaker 1: be a chance that this can get through the Senate

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Speaker 1: into the Present's desk to sign it. I'll explain that

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Speaker 1: in just a moment as well. And finally, there's new

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Speaker 1: information out of Butler, Pennsylvania and an accusation the New

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Speaker 1: York Posts that the attempted assassination on Donald Trump that

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Speaker 1: shooter may have actually had help from others. It's the

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Speaker 1: week in Review and it starts right now. There's a

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Speaker 1: badass moment the White House where the President straight up

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Speaker 1: called out a governor who was in attendance for the

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Speaker 1: governors that a bunch of governors come to the White House.

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Speaker 1: They had their big governors at meeting. They invited these

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Speaker 1: governors come to the White House, and the President just

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Speaker 1: straight out called out or of the governors for the

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Speaker 1: plan that had leaked in essence that he was going

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Speaker 1: to defy the directive from the federal government about protecting

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Speaker 1: women from men playing in their sports transgendered you know,

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Speaker 1: individuals claiming that their chick and the President just said, like,

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Speaker 1: I don't care, you're here, Glad you're here. Are you

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Speaker 1: going to not go along with what I told you do?

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Speaker 1: And it was one of those flashpoint moments, just showing you.

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Speaker 1: I think the difference is time and the mentality of

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Speaker 1: this president.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, no, that's exactly right. Trump is not backing down.

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Speaker 2: And I got to say the Democrats that seems they've

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Speaker 2: learned nothing from the election. Here, give a listen to

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Speaker 2: the exchange betwetween the governor of Maine and President Trump.

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Speaker 3: The NCAA has complied immediately, by the way, that's good,

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Speaker 3: but I understand Maine is the main here. The governor

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Speaker 3: of Man, are you not going to comply with it?

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Speaker 3: Well we are the federal law. Well, you better do it.

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Speaker 3: You better do it because you're not going to get

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Speaker 3: any federal funding at all if you don't. And by

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Speaker 3: the way, your population, even though it's somewhat liberal, although

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Speaker 3: I did very well there, your population doesn't want men

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Speaker 3: playing in women's sports. So you better you better comply

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Speaker 3: because otherwise you're not getting any federal funding. Every state. Good.

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Speaker 3: I'll see you in court. I look forward to that.

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Speaker 3: That should be a really easy one. And enjoy your

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Speaker 3: life after governor, because I don't think you'll be an

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Speaker 3: elected politics.

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Speaker 1: I mean the trush talking. I just got to say,

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Speaker 1: looking at the female governor main saying like, hey, the

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Speaker 1: people there want this too. You should listen to people.

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Speaker 1: I'll see you in court. All right, great, look forward

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Speaker 1: to it. I don't think you're me in politics much

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Speaker 1: longer either. If you keep this up. This is just

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Speaker 1: a different Donald Trump this time around.

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Speaker 2: Well it is and and and by the way, there's

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Speaker 2: also real teeth to it. So so simultaneously with this exchange,

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Speaker 2: the US Department of Agriculture announced that it had initiated

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Speaker 2: a compliance review of the University of Maine and the

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Speaker 2: state could be in jeopardy of losing one hundred million

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Speaker 2: dollars in federal USDA funding over non compliance with the

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Speaker 2: Executive Order on keeping Males out of female sports. And

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Speaker 2: at the end of the day, and and and by

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Speaker 2: transgender boy who identifies as a girl who took first

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Speaker 2: place in the girls pole vaulting at Maine's Class B

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Speaker 2: state championship. And and it's a win that helped helped

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Speaker 2: the high school take first place overall. And and and

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Speaker 2: so you know, how would you feel if it if

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Speaker 2: But there's a dude who says, no, I'm a girl

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Speaker 2: I got to say overwhelmingly eighty ninety percent of Americans

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Speaker 2: voters don't want this. They're not happy about this and

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Speaker 2: today's Democrat party this election. If there is an elected

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Speaker 1: This has become like the new litmus test though of

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Speaker 2: They're also doubling down on open borders, they're also doubling

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Speaker 2: And they did that after the election. They did that

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Speaker 2: still anti Israel, they're still pro boys and girls sports.

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Speaker 2: And it's look, look, this is the same issue we

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Speaker 2: started with fundamentally. I think, you know, the Democrats love

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Speaker 2: to prattle on about democracy. But when they prattle on

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Speaker 2: It's why they indicted Trump not once, not twice, not

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Speaker 2: three times, but four times. It was designed to stop democracy.

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Speaker 2: It's why you had multiple Democrats and state officials trying

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Speaker 2: to remove Donald Trump from the presidential ballot. Because nothing

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Speaker 2: says defending democracy like stopping the damn voters for voting

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Speaker 2: for your opponent and making it impossible. This is all intertwined,

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Speaker 2: which is it is a lack of humility, a lack

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Speaker 1: I'm trying to figure this out. Is this pure arrogance

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Speaker 1: to say, we're not going to comply and we think

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Speaker 1: it's going to be good for us to raise money

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Speaker 1: and for our base break this down for us.

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Speaker 2: What do you think? Well, listen, Unfortunately, elected Democrats remain

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Speaker 2: radical that they have not learned any lessons from the

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Speaker 2: if you looked at Democrat governors, they continue to support

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Speaker 2: literally releasing violent child rapists who are illegal immigrants rather

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Speaker 2: I got to say, look, this is not a sixty

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Speaker 3: I mean, if you.

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Speaker 2: Ask any rational, insane person a violent child rapist, should

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Speaker 2: And yet the elected Democrats in Massachusetts, their answer is

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Speaker 2: let them go. We are opposed to deporting anyone, no

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Speaker 2: matter how vile. That they're continuing the same position on

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Speaker 2: They continue to support. The Democrats in Congress continue to

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Speaker 2: support sterilizing and castrating children for sex change operations. Again,

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Speaker 2: that's an eighty twenty issue. They're on the wrong side

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Speaker 2: when it comes to men and women's sports, this is

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Speaker 2: and yet the Democrats are all in on that. And

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Speaker 2: I've been amazed Normally, when your party gets clabbered in

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Speaker 2: Maybe we should change where we stand. The Democrats are

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Speaker 2: not doing that. And so what happened this week is Pambondi,

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Speaker 2: And here's what Pambondi said, quote, This Department of Justice

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Speaker 2: executive Order protecting women's sports. And she continues. The Department

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Speaker 2: This practice is also illegal under federal law. It denies

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Speaker 2: Educational Amendments of nineteen seventy two. And so understand, the

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Speaker 2: We talked about in Monday's pod how the governor Maine

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Speaker 1: from earlier this week. Now onto story number two. So

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Speaker 2: So the budget resolution just starts this process. Now, what's

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Speaker 1: So this is the first sitting to use a baseball analogy.

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Speaker 2: Yes, now it actually gets your your batter at the plate,

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Speaker 2: Like if they'd failed, they don't even get a batter

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Speaker 2: And I believe we're going to get this done. I

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Speaker 2: going to unleash American energy, and we're going to extend

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Speaker 2: say both Mike Johnson, the Speaker, and Steve Scalise, the

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Speaker 2: through some difficult paths to get there, but all of us,

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Speaker 2: I think that's exactly right. You know, the article says

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and backfired, but that was where you could tell

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Speaker 1: they were. The first step was, well, maybe we can

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Speaker 1: drive a wedge here. That hasn't worked. So now what

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Speaker 1: we're witnessing is just a full on smear campaign against

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Speaker 1: Elon Musk, even on the View. And this was an

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Speaker 1: interesting moment for me because it's like you're getting real

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Speaker 1: close to slander and libel when you when you do

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Speaker 1: what the View does against Elon Musk. I don't know

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Speaker 1: if they care that they have to apologize pretty regularly

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Speaker 1: now for things they say on the air with legal

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Speaker 1: notes they keep having to make. But Joe Bahart had

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Speaker 1: this to say on the View about Elon Musk, and

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Speaker 1: I want to play it and then get your reaction

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Speaker 1: to it.

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Speaker 4: And an Elon Musk kisses his butt and strokes his

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Speaker 4: his tiny ego or big ego, whatever it is, and

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Speaker 4: he doesn't get to do he can take a nap

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Speaker 4: while the guy was not born in this country who

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Speaker 4: was born under apartheid in South Africa, so has that

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Speaker 4: mentality going on. He was pro apartheid, as I understand it, right,

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Speaker 4: he's a natural. Oh really, how did he do that?

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Speaker 4: Did he come over the board? Yeah, he allegedly overstate

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Speaker 4: that vs subject. But I think this is just perfectly

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Speaker 4: but wonderful for Trump. He's can take a nap and

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Speaker 4: let this Barger foreign agent, you know, an enemy of

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Speaker 4: the United States do his job.

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Speaker 1: I mean, not only does she say he's an enemy,

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Speaker 1: but then she says in favor of apartheid, by the way,

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Speaker 1: not true. Came back on the air later in the

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Speaker 1: show and try to undo that and said, Elon, don't sue.

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Speaker 2: Well, look, I mean the View they are unhinged lunatics

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Speaker 2: and they don't care about truth. But they you know,

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Speaker 2: the crazy thing is Joi Bihar believes what she says.

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Speaker 2: You know, it's amazing. Apparently Elon Musk is the only

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Speaker 2: immigrant that Joi Bihar and the crazies on the View dislike.

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Speaker 2: If you're an MS thirteen gang member, if you're a

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Speaker 2: murderer or a rapist, they're perfectly fine with you. They

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Speaker 2: don't have a problem with Joe Biden, the Democrats releasing

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Speaker 2: millions of criminals into America that they have no problem with.

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Speaker 2: But if someone comes legally to this country, if someone

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Speaker 2: builds multiple incredible companies, creates thousands and thousands of jobs,

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Speaker 2: is an incredible innovator and then volunteers his time to

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Speaker 2: serve as nation that merits being called a foreign agent

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Speaker 2: and an enemy of the United States. You know, at

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Speaker 2: the end of the day, what the view was saying

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Speaker 2: doesn't say much about Elon Musk, but it says a

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Speaker 2: lot about the media and the left and how terrified

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Speaker 2: they are of him. And I'll tell you Marci Captor,

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Speaker 2: a Democrat congresswoman, had very similar comments. Listen to what

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Speaker 2: she said about Elon Musk. Apparently she enjoyed Baharror reading

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Speaker 2: from the same talking points.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and this was in front of the United States

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Speaker 1: Capital where she said it.

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Speaker 5: Mister Musk has just been here twenty two years, and

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Speaker 5: he's a citizen of three countries. I always ask myself

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Speaker 5: the question, with the damage he's doing here, when push

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Speaker 5: comes to shove, which country is he loyalty to? South Africa,

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Speaker 5: Canada or the United States. And he's only been a

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Speaker 5: citizen I'll say again twenty two years.

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Speaker 1: By the way, I thought it was Democrats for the

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Speaker 1: last four years that were obsessed with the legal immigrants

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Speaker 1: coming into this country and saying, who is anyone else

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Speaker 1: to say that they aren't Americans and we don't even

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Speaker 1: call them the legal as you must call them immigrants,

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Speaker 1: and they're just like you and I. But all of

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Speaker 1: a sudden, a guy by the name of Elon Mosk

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Speaker 1: is actually getting things done, and now they're just going

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Speaker 1: to slander them and say which countries are really little

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Speaker 1: to like he's some sort of secret agent or bad

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Speaker 1: actor for another nation.

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Speaker 2: Well, look, I spent a good chunk of this morning

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Speaker 2: with Elon over at the White House and he met

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Speaker 2: with a number of Senators talking about what he's doing

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Speaker 2: on DOGE, and it was a very interesting meeting. And

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Speaker 2: it's stunning some of the things that they're finding. They're finding,

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Speaker 2: for example, they're going into agencies and finding agencies that

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Speaker 2: have more electronic subscriptions than they have employees.

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Speaker 1: Wow.

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Speaker 2: And in many instances thousands and thousands more like like

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Speaker 2: thirty thousand licenses for different electronic applications, thirty thousand licenses

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Speaker 2: and fifteen thousand employees that order of magnitude, and so

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Speaker 2: they're going in and canceling the ones that that that

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Speaker 2: aren't used. They also went and checked and they said

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Speaker 2: hundreds and hundreds of them had never been opened, had

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Speaker 2: never even been installed. So even of the employees, not

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Speaker 2: everyone is using them. They've never logged in, and so

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Speaker 2: they can go and check, all right, and so anyone

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Speaker 2: who's not using it, they're canceling those. Those are the

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Speaker 2: sorts of things they're finding that are really just astonishing.

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Speaker 1: Well, when you met with him today, does it seem

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Speaker 1: that he's even shocked by what he's finding.

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Speaker 2: You know, they're things like he talked today about ghost

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Speaker 2: payments about the Treasury has computers that that that transfer

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Speaker 2: funds that make federal payments, and and he says that

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Speaker 2: that that there are ghost payments that are going out

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Speaker 2: that a program officer puts in for for for a

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Speaker 2: payment to to a contractor to to somebody, and then

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Speaker 2: the program officer retires, dies, leaves is gone on, and

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Speaker 2: the payments just keep on going and and you know it,

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Speaker 2: he said, it's stunning. The Treasury. The Treasury computers have

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Speaker 2: a field where you categorize, Okay, what is this payment

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Speaker 2: for and what in in the congressional appropriation is it

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Speaker 2: going for? And he said, routinely that field is left blank.

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Speaker 2: He said, us AI D they always left it blank.

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Speaker 2: He said, so there's no way, he said, many ways.

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Speaker 2: It's it's it's it's incredibly difficult, if not impossible, to

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Speaker 2: audit the billions of dollars that are going out the

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Speaker 2: door because they don't keep the records. And it was

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Speaker 2: interesting Elon's comments. He said, if any public company did this,

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Speaker 2: he said, they would be massively fined and the executives

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Speaker 2: would be put in jail.

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