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Speaker 1: with Nick Eatman, David Hellman, and bar Garcia and Derek Eagleton.
Speaker 1: It is Monday, September ninth, twenty nineteen, Season fifteen, episode
Speaker 1: number thirty nine. Welcome to another edition of The Break,
Speaker 1: live from the s WBC Mortgage Studios at the Star
Speaker 1: and we got a lot of talk about this morning.
Speaker 1: Cowboys to get a big win to open the season.
Speaker 1: They win thirty five seventeen and probably well, at least
Speaker 1: in my opinion, was one of the most dominating performances
Speaker 1: I've seen from them in quite some time. We'll talk
Speaker 1: about all that, We'll talk about Dak's performance, We'll talk
Speaker 1: about this defense is performance throughout the course of the show.
Speaker 1: How's everybody feeling this morning? Great? Great, awesome? Already jump in, Yes,
Speaker 1: here we go. Let's start first a little blanket coverage.
Speaker 1: I have one statement for you. There will be a
Speaker 1: blank you fill in the blank. We're gonna start today
Speaker 1: with Nick. After dominating performance last night, I learned blank
Speaker 1: about this team, Nick. I learned that the Cowboys are
Speaker 1: a lot better than the Giants. That's really all I
Speaker 1: That's just the Giants aren't very good and I think
Speaker 1: the Cowboys are very good. I learned that this team
Speaker 1: can make it to the super Bowl. That's what I like. Yes,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go there. There, I am gonna go there.
Speaker 1: I know. Okay, I am fully aware Giants are great.
Speaker 1: Three days ago when you were like, I don't like
Speaker 1: to get my expectations. This is what the Cowboys do
Speaker 1: to me. But when they do to my feelings, they
Speaker 1: gave me very larded against yourself, like three days ago.
Speaker 1: I know, but it's hard to control those emotions. And
Speaker 1: it was just very very exciting to see what they
Speaker 1: were able to do. Obviously, the things that Kellen Moore
Speaker 1: was able to apply, and that only gives me hope
Speaker 1: for the future. Even though it is the first game
Speaker 1: and it is against the Giants, it's still got me
Speaker 1: very excited. Dave, you learned what I learned. The Cowboys
Speaker 1: can win the modern way. And what I mean by
Speaker 1: that is I mean I'm not sorry I agree with
Speaker 1: Nick to a point. I thought the Cowboys would win comfortably.
Speaker 1: I thought they were much better than Giants. They proved
Speaker 1: my point, but we've never seen them so comfortably and
Speaker 1: so efficiently and effortlessly win throwing the ball, you know,
Speaker 1: the run game was basically an afterthought. They had ninety yards,
Speaker 1: which is that's fine by NFL standards. But I was
Speaker 1: here on Friday saying, you know, the Cowboys sweet spot
Speaker 1: is like two hundred and fifty passing yards and they
Speaker 1: need to have one hundred and twenty hundred and fifty
Speaker 1: rushing yards, like that's how the model goes. Didn't look
Speaker 1: like that yesterday. The Giants loaded up to stop the run,
Speaker 1: and for the most part, they did, and it didn't
Speaker 1: matter at all. And part of that is because they're bad.
Speaker 1: I don't think you can totally discount that. But four
Speaker 1: hundred passing yards and most of it again looking easy.
Speaker 1: M that's something we're not used to, and it's even
Speaker 1: if it is against a bad team, it's really encouraging
Speaker 1: if the offense can continue to do that. Let's dive
Speaker 1: into this passing game a little bit. You guys, kind
Speaker 1: of do you want to answer that question too for me, Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: I think I'm guarding against being where you are because
Speaker 1: but in all fairness, that is probably what a lot
Speaker 1: of fans right now are dealing with this morning. Is
Speaker 1: what they saw yesterday suggests tells their eyes and tells
Speaker 1: their head. Hey man, this is different. This is not
Speaker 1: what we've been used to seeing from this Cowboys team,
Speaker 1: even in good years, you haven't been used to seeing them. Literally,
Speaker 1: think about that. They had six their six opening possessions,
Speaker 1: the first one stalled out and they had to punt.
Speaker 1: The next five they had touchdown, not field goals. They
Speaker 1: had touchdowns, and they did it in different ways. Some
Speaker 1: of them were long drives where they drove methodically down
Speaker 1: the field and then scored in the red zone. There
Speaker 1: were others where there was one that was a three
Speaker 1: play drive where basically it was like pop pop pop, touchdown. Right.
Speaker 1: So they showed you so many different facets of this offense.
Speaker 1: It looked like, as Dave said, it looked like a
Speaker 1: modern NFL offense, which has not been what the Cowboys
Speaker 1: have been doing since Zeke Drive. And you know, looking
Speaker 1: around New England, Baltimore, or Minnesota, Philadelphia, they're they're looking
Speaker 1: at Super Bowl stuff too, So, I mean that's kind
Speaker 1: of the way it is right now. But this was
Speaker 1: a good football team we knew going in and they
Speaker 1: looked better than that yesterday. So tell me how surprised
Speaker 1: you were that the Cowboys went so pass heavy, especially
Speaker 1: early in the game, when we've been used to watching
Speaker 1: an offense that would establish the run. They would commit
Speaker 1: it to the run, especially in the early parts of
Speaker 1: the game yesterday. It seemed like they came out with
Speaker 1: the intention they were going to throw the ball if
Speaker 1: you can. I mean I talked about this Friday, I
Speaker 1: think or Thursday. If you can get the divas out
Speaker 1: of the out of the huddle, if you can do that,
Speaker 1: then you really can say pick your poison. You can
Speaker 1: really do that. And that's what happened. And next week
Speaker 1: that won't happen. They'll have a safety back, they won't
Speaker 1: let Jarwin and Cobb go right down the middle. And
Speaker 1: what's going to happen. You'll see Zeke Gasham for six
Speaker 1: and eight and ten. It's just going to be that
Speaker 1: kind of game because whatever the defense gives you. That
Speaker 1: it's a cliche, but that's exactly what they did. Whatever
Speaker 1: they were giving them. They took it. Yeah, you might
Speaker 1: not even need to worry about egos if the offense
Speaker 1: keeps that because every single member of the offense had
Speaker 1: a reason to be happy yesterday. I mean, Witton got
Speaker 1: a touchdown, Cobb had the worst day of the starting
Speaker 1: receivers and he had sixty nine yards in a touchdown.
Speaker 1: I mean, it's incredible, And obviously that's not going to
Speaker 1: happen every week, but it's just really encouraging. It's like,
Speaker 1: you know, the it's typically a younger crowd, the analytics
Speaker 1: heavy crowd. Play action is everything, pre snap motion is everything.
Speaker 1: Don't run on first down, don't run on second down.
Speaker 1: I mean, they've just got that. They got to be
Speaker 1: through the roof with what they saw from the way
Speaker 1: Kellamore called this offense yesterday because that's exactly what it was.
Speaker 1: And the running game will never be an afterthought if
Speaker 1: you're paying your running back ninety million dollars, but it
Speaker 1: can be a compliment to a passing game, clearly, and
Speaker 1: that's not what we've seen. Like through Zeke's career to
Speaker 1: this point, the running game has been the engine, and
Speaker 1: the passing game kind of operates off of that. That's
Speaker 1: not what we saw yesterday. What I loved about the
Speaker 1: first touchdown by Blake Jarwin is that it was a
Speaker 1: play action that sucked in the you know, linebackers of safety.
Speaker 1: But it wasn't even Zeke. It was Pollard in the game,
Speaker 1: you know, and Pollard he just faked it there. And
Speaker 1: that's another thing I love is that it doesn't have
Speaker 1: to be my series, your series, just running both in
Speaker 1: the in there and when one guy's tired, put the
Speaker 1: other one in May. And maybe Zeke coming back from
Speaker 1: a six week hold out helps because you feel less
Speaker 1: pressure to have him in the game. You're just like, well,
Speaker 1: we're only giving you forty snaps, so you know, hopefully
Speaker 1: they don't resort to that when Zeke is more ready
Speaker 1: to play a full load. He had a play around
Speaker 1: the corner and it was and think the third quarter,
Speaker 1: and there was one of the corners was there and
Speaker 1: he kind of made the tackle. And I think everybody
Speaker 1: in the press box right around said the same thing,
Speaker 1: like in about three weeks, he'll make that guy this
Speaker 1: or running over or something. But his ten yard touchdown
Speaker 1: run looked like old Zeke to me. We'll get to
Speaker 1: some of that I want to go back a little bit.
Speaker 1: You guys mentioned Kelvin Moore. He's getting a ton of
Speaker 1: credit last night and this morning for how this offense looked.
Speaker 1: There were a lot of things that you could notice
Speaker 1: about it. I'm gonna point out three and I want
Speaker 1: you to tell me which one you think was bigger
Speaker 1: or if there's another thing you think was bigger. To me,
Speaker 1: it was pace, it was the pre snap movement, and
Speaker 1: it was the play selection. Which one do you think
Speaker 1: is was was a bigger had more was more responsible
Speaker 1: for the improvement in the offense we saw yesterday relative
Speaker 1: to last season. Let's start with you. I think it's
Speaker 1: just a combination of everything. If you do one more
Speaker 1: than the other, I think you wouldn't be You wouldn't
Speaker 1: have been able to do what you did last night.
Speaker 1: You know, him being creative, him coming up with different
Speaker 1: ways to involve everybody. That's where it comes down to.
Speaker 1: I think had this been the like last year and
Speaker 1: we still had Scottland calling the place, I feel that
Speaker 1: we would have seen, for example, Zeke getting the ball
Speaker 1: more and being forced even though when he was taking
Speaker 1: him a while to get going. I think we would
Speaker 1: have seen forced plays, and last night it wasn't that way.
Speaker 1: He just made it all look so seeming less and
Speaker 1: was smart about the play calling. And you can tell
Speaker 1: by everything that the player said last night in regards
Speaker 1: to him and his decision making, it was not a
Speaker 1: completely new different book playbook. It was more of being
Speaker 1: smart about it and knowing when to call what play.
Speaker 1: Dave Dak actually said, and he said this before, He's like,
Speaker 1: I don't think we ran a single play that hasn't
Speaker 1: been in our offense for a while, to which I
Speaker 1: responded and asked, yeah, but they didn't look like that,
Speaker 1: like you have changed. The play might be the same.
Speaker 1: The guys might be going in the same spot, but
Speaker 1: they're starting out in different spots. It's obvious. And Dak
Speaker 1: also he said, I think it's the timing of the
Speaker 1: way Kellen's calling it. He's the quarterback. He just had
Speaker 1: a perfect passer rating. I defer to him, but I
Speaker 1: don't really buy it because Scotland hand coached in this
Speaker 1: league for a long time, Like he just has no
Speaker 1: feel for the timing and win to call that type
Speaker 1: of stuff. Like, I think it's more about confusing the
Speaker 1: defense and keeping them on their back. Foot. I mean,
Speaker 1: we were just watching Brian Baldinger's tape. They break down
Speaker 1: before we came down here. You got Witten, Cobb and
Speaker 1: Cooper lined out left and then they all flex across
Speaker 1: the formation. The Giants linebackers are going every which way.
Speaker 1: But the way the play eventually went, I think that
Speaker 1: stuff matters, and it might not change the meat of
Speaker 1: the play, but it just makes it harder to defend
Speaker 1: when you don't know where it's going. You know what's
Speaker 1: a huge difference to me is when you have players
Speaker 1: that respect your coach. I don't think they had respect
Speaker 1: for Scotto and yeah, the normal respect, but as far
Speaker 1: as respecting him and what in him knowing what he
Speaker 1: was doing, I don't think it's the same way like
Speaker 1: that with Kellen. They feel like Kellen is really really
Speaker 1: smart about the the whole game, and when you're bought
Speaker 1: in to somebody, you tend to do better. And he
Speaker 1: has the support of that locker room for sure, big,
Speaker 1: big time. Yeah, I don't I forgot the three that
Speaker 1: you mentioned. I said, pace, pre snap, movement, and play selection. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's it's never pace because nobody ever has good pace
Speaker 1: if they don't, if they don't execute and that, and
Speaker 1: you could say, well, maybe that's great, thanks for that,
Speaker 1: no huddle, free and out, you know, but it was
Speaker 1: nice to see them use some some different, you know,
Speaker 1: some stuff where they were They were that play which
Speaker 1: I thought was a very big play in the game,
Speaker 1: when he caught over the middle short of the sticks
Speaker 1: and fought and got it and got a first down,
Speaker 1: and maybe I was typing something in witness in the
Speaker 1: end zone for I even knew what was happening. So yeah,
Speaker 1: they did move it quickly. I just think that the
Speaker 1: pre snap movement I think did confuse the Giants a lot.
Speaker 1: But kind of going back to what they said, I
Speaker 1: think this is the best receiving core they've had in
Speaker 1: a long time. Because as good as Beasley wasn't doing
Speaker 1: what he does and Daz doing what he does, they
Speaker 1: can't do each other's job. Beasley has to be in
Speaker 1: the slot, he can't be on the outside. Des really
Speaker 1: couldn't be in the slot, and Gallup is just going
Speaker 1: to be a better Terrence Williams and a lot of ways,
Speaker 1: I hope. So I think those three guys right there
Speaker 1: are just way better because like you just said, David,
Speaker 1: they are Amber say they can go all over the
Speaker 1: place three here, two here, and you can be interchangeable.
Speaker 1: And I think that's what's gonna be really tough to stop.
Speaker 1: I haven't had time to chart it. I would love
Speaker 1: to if I get a chance. But the number of
Speaker 1: different ways we saw guys line up last night, it
Speaker 1: was striking if you even pay a baseline level of attention.
Speaker 1: And I'm not even talking about the wacky stuff like Ola,
Speaker 1: Wally and Zeke flexing out wide. I'm talking about Witten
Speaker 1: being out in the slot, then flexing, flexing inline Cooper
Speaker 1: as a tight slot and moving further out in the
Speaker 1: slot and then moving out to the boundary. Like it's
Speaker 1: little stuff, but when you I mean, it's so obvious
Speaker 1: that we haven't seen it, because you're like, whoa wait,
Speaker 1: what's a model like Witten is out furthest wide of
Speaker 1: everybody on the field, Like I've never seen that before.
Speaker 1: It just little stuff like that that can make a
Speaker 1: big difference. Here's here's the thing too, that's going to
Speaker 1: be interesting moving forward is you can't keep faking into
Speaker 1: Tavon Austin without giving it to him. So and Witten
Speaker 1: out wide and you have to throw it to him
Speaker 1: out there, So I'm anxious to see do you say, hey,
Speaker 1: let's call the stuff that works, or do you say,
Speaker 1: we're going to have to these stuff we've been faking.
Speaker 1: Now we have to continue to do it. The good
Speaker 1: thing was they showed a lot of it. They showed
Speaker 1: Ola Wally down the field. They showed some of these
Speaker 1: plays that we haven't seen that the Redskins haven't seen.
Speaker 1: So not trying to move ahead, but I'm just saying
Speaker 1: that's all nice and good, but now you have to
Speaker 1: kind of play off of that. And you guys mentioned
Speaker 1: that all that movement can confuse a defense. I think
Speaker 1: the other part that helps quite a bit is it
Speaker 1: also can illuminate things for your quarterback. As you move
Speaker 1: people around. You see how the defense reacts when a
Speaker 1: guy goes, who goes with him, how do they adjust?
Speaker 1: It tells you a lot about man versus his own
Speaker 1: and what the defense is doing. So not only does
Speaker 1: it confuse a defense, at the same time, it clarifies
Speaker 1: for the quarterback. And so now you have those two
Speaker 1: things playing against each other makes it. It makes it
Speaker 1: so much easier. I think that's a lot of the
Speaker 1: reason why Dak was so decisive yesterday. He was getting
Speaker 1: the ball out and he was getting into the place
Speaker 1: where it needed to be, and he's putting it on
Speaker 1: point and it was accurate. So that all to me
Speaker 1: is about that that pre snap motion. No, you go ahead,
Speaker 1: remember that sack that that you know was knocked to
Speaker 1: the ground on No, it wasn't. There was no pass
Speaker 1: rushing from the Giants, which honestly we talked about last week,
Speaker 1: and that's that is really a function of the Giants
Speaker 1: more than the Cowboys. But I'm just saying, you can
Speaker 1: find open guys, especially when you're just standing up there,
Speaker 1: and he did have all day. The weird part about
Speaker 1: this all was that his first five or six passes
Speaker 1: were not good. To say that he's gonna have a
Speaker 1: perfect passer rating, You're like, he's settled in. I heard
Speaker 1: you and Derek talking about it last night, Like, I mean,
Speaker 1: his first throw of the game was a completion, but
Speaker 1: Amari Cooper had to jump out of the socks to
Speaker 1: get it. Yeah, he's just I mean, I know, I
Speaker 1: guess people get tired of hearing it, but he's just
Speaker 1: kind of like that, Like he's not a great practice player.
Speaker 1: He kind of needs to find a groove. But when
Speaker 1: he does, look out but the fun. And this sounds
Speaker 1: like a backhanded compliment, and I don't mean it to,
Speaker 1: but the really encouraging thing for me. You know, when
Speaker 1: we argue about what Dak deserves to make and all that,
Speaker 1: it's like, well, he hasn't grown into this. You know,
Speaker 1: he's not making these crazy throws through the eye of
Speaker 1: a needle and doing all this crazy stuff. What we
Speaker 1: saw last night is that he doesn't necessarily need to.
Speaker 1: And he did make some really great throws. The touchdown
Speaker 1: to Cooper was amazing. The long pass to Gallop down
Speaker 1: the sideline he had a he had it wasn't even
Speaker 1: a go route the post to Gallop. It was near
Speaker 1: the Cowboys end zone like he threaded it through three defenders.
Speaker 1: So he did make some great throws, but thanks to
Speaker 1: the play action and confusing the defense, the vast majority
Speaker 1: of the balls he had to throw were easy. And
Speaker 1: that's okay because it's it's efficient and it works. But
Speaker 1: one to Jarwin was not a good pass. It was
Speaker 1: an arable pass. But and I swear to I want
Speaker 1: to ask Dac about this if I can get a chance.
Speaker 1: I swear to God, he double clutched. Because he did.
Speaker 1: He and I have to imagine he was like, there's
Speaker 1: no way he's actually that open, like I'm missing something.
Speaker 1: And then he's like, nope, he is there. You go.
Speaker 1: And Joe and double caught it too, like he caught
Speaker 1: it kind of it kind of moved a little bit
Speaker 1: and he caught it again. The easiest players are the
Speaker 1: hardest to make. That's what they always say. All right,
Speaker 1: let's take our first break. When we come back, I
Speaker 1: do want to talk a little bit about the running game.
Speaker 1: Zeke had a decent day, Pollard had a maybe not
Speaker 1: so decent day. Let's talk about a little bit about
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Speaker 1: It is the second segment of Break Life from the
Speaker 1: SWBC Morgan Studios. At the start talking about the Cowboys
Speaker 1: big win. They opened the season against the Giants thirty
Speaker 1: five seventeen victory at AT and T Stadium. This week
Speaker 1: they'll be heading to Washington take on another division rival
Speaker 1: who had some moments of pretty good football yesterday, ended
Speaker 1: up with a loss. Stop. We'll talk about that as
Speaker 1: we get later into the week. Let's move on to
Speaker 1: the running backs. In this game, Zeke Elliott had a
Speaker 1: thirteen carriage fifty three yards a four point one average
Speaker 1: in a touchdown polar thirteen runs for twenty four yards
Speaker 1: a one point eight average, no touchdowns with limited snaps
Speaker 1: for Zeke was Do you think that was more about
Speaker 1: easing him back into playing football or do you think
Speaker 1: it was just the way the game flowed. They were
Speaker 1: seeing such success with the running game and they just
Speaker 1: decided me, I'm sorry, the passing game, and they decided
Speaker 1: to stick with it, and that ended up being the
Speaker 1: reason why they really didn't run the ball, particularly with Zeke,
Speaker 1: as much as they would normally. Yeah, I mean, I
Speaker 1: do think that Zeke just having him out there, I
Speaker 1: thought it was big. But when you're throwing at four
Speaker 1: hundred and five yards and completing everything, I mean, that's
Speaker 1: that's what the Giants were giving you, and that's what
Speaker 1: you're going to take. But I don't know if the
Speaker 1: Cowboys win the game as comfortable without Zeke. I'm not
Speaker 1: even sure they win the game really, Okay, I really don't.
Speaker 1: I mean, I think that's why it was so important
Speaker 1: to get him back there. Just having his presence there
Speaker 1: forces the Giants to play that way. Don't think they
Speaker 1: played the same way with Pollard, could be completely different game.
Speaker 1: They couldn't stop Barkley very well, and it forced the
Speaker 1: Giants to get out of what they wanted to do
Speaker 1: and get Barkley eleven carries. So I don't know. I
Speaker 1: mean that sounds weird because they blew him out, but
Speaker 1: I just think having him back there is so important
Speaker 1: and play actions with him are different than anyone else.
Speaker 1: How does Zeke look to you, guys? Just the plays
Speaker 1: he dig get an opportunity to run? How did you
Speaker 1: look to you guys? Maybe it's just because they were
Speaker 1: playing the Giants, but I mean it reminded me a
Speaker 1: lot of his first ever game. Like he was fine.
Speaker 1: You know, he averaged for carry, you scored a touchdown
Speaker 1: I think as long in the day was ten touchdown?
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, and just workman like like. Again, the Cowboys
Speaker 1: ran pretty well for every other NFL team, not what
Speaker 1: we're used to seeing. And yeah, I wonder. I mean,
Speaker 1: I think they still win this game without him. Maybe
Speaker 1: it doesn't look as easy, I do think. Again, I
Speaker 1: haven't had a chance to chart it, but I bet
Speaker 1: the vast majority of Dak's completions off play action came
Speaker 1: with Zeke in the game. I know you said it
Speaker 1: was Pollard on the Jarwin touchdown. I bet that was
Speaker 1: an outlier, though I think it does. I think it
Speaker 1: does affect the defense, and that stuff that analytics can't
Speaker 1: always track is like linebackers are way more likely to
Speaker 1: suck up on a play action with a guy like
Speaker 1: Zeke there. I'm not concerned or anything like I thought.
Speaker 1: I thought he was fine. And again, it's beyond encouraging
Speaker 1: that the offense looked that good on a day where
Speaker 1: the running game was just fine. Right, I think he
Speaker 1: did good. He was fine. Honestly, I expected it to
Speaker 1: be a lot better just because of the Giants defense
Speaker 1: and the defensive line. They're not that great, So in
Speaker 1: my mind, I thought Paula was going to be able
Speaker 1: to do more things. But that's a great thing where
Speaker 1: this team is at right now that you don't have
Speaker 1: to rely on the running game. You know, now you
Speaker 1: have the ability to be able to make some plays
Speaker 1: through the passing games. So I think, just like Nick
Speaker 1: said and Date, just having seeked there, just his presence,
Speaker 1: even if he's not running as much as we were
Speaker 1: used to seeing him, he's still going to be dangerous.
Speaker 1: To Nick's point from the top of the show, and
Speaker 1: I don't want to be Davey Downer, but we hope
Speaker 1: that that carries over. Well, I can't sit here and
Speaker 1: say that it definitely will. It was super impressive. I
Speaker 1: think the Giants are going to be competing for a
Speaker 1: top ten pick. And I think it's totally possible that
Speaker 1: we've seen Eli Manning play his last game against New
Speaker 1: York I mean, oh again against don't you mean like
Speaker 1: his last game, and they don't They don't move this week,
Speaker 1: they don't play again until November. It's totally believable for
Speaker 1: me to think. And I don't know when their buy is,
Speaker 1: but it's totally possible. Daniel Jones could be in there
Speaker 1: the next time they play, right, So Monday night football, Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: I want to see. I want to I mean, I
Speaker 1: know Jonathan Allen's probably gonna miss next week. I don't
Speaker 1: know if y'all have heard that yet. That's huge for
Speaker 1: the Cowboys. But you still, uh, Duran Payne is still there,
Speaker 1: Carrigan's still there. They this is a pretty good front
Speaker 1: seven they're gonna play and I want to see what
Speaker 1: it looks like. And again, Washington's still not the end
Speaker 1: all be all, But if you can take that on
Speaker 1: the road and still play that well and throw the
Speaker 1: ball that Well, that'll mean more to me than torching
Speaker 1: this team. And that'll be The interesting thing is this
Speaker 1: week's defense that you'll be playing, they don't necessarily have
Speaker 1: to move that safety down in order to be able
Speaker 1: to be stout against the run. Yeah, that helps, right,
Speaker 1: because that's that's the one thing Landon Collins, right. They
Speaker 1: were talking a lot about about this after the game.
Speaker 1: I think I can't remember which player it was, but
Speaker 1: they were saying, how you know with this With Kelly Moore,
Speaker 1: the way he looks at it is he's trying to
Speaker 1: agree restively exploit what you give him. And then the
Speaker 1: keyword there is aggressively, right, So if he sees that
Speaker 1: you're going to be able, you're gonna bring that safety down,
Speaker 1: and he's going to go hard after the past and
Speaker 1: sometimes I think in the past they've had the thought
Speaker 1: around here, we're going to impose our will. So even
Speaker 1: when the defense is showing you one thing, you're like, well,
Speaker 1: we want to dictate the terms of what we're gonna do,
Speaker 1: So you run into an eight man box because we
Speaker 1: want to dictate what we're gonna do. Whereas it sounds
Speaker 1: like Kellen's a little bit different well, very different from that,
Speaker 1: and that he is aggressive in the in the in
Speaker 1: the idea that if you're gonna give him something not
Speaker 1: he only is gonna go after. He's gonna keep going
Speaker 1: at it until he forces you to say, I gotta
Speaker 1: do something different. I hadn't gotten around to that. You know,
Speaker 1: it takes a while to process all the things you see.
Speaker 1: But if Kellen Moore can get this team out of
Speaker 1: we're gonna do what we do and get him into
Speaker 1: We're gonna do what you can't do, that's exciting. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and maybe you know onto that is we do. What
Speaker 1: we do is kicking your ass. I mean, that's what
Speaker 1: we go up and down the field whatever however we
Speaker 1: want to do, however we need to do. Whoever, you know,
Speaker 1: and maybe Jason Witten, Yeah, I thought it was interesting.
Speaker 1: In the press conference of you there for Dak, Dak
Speaker 1: said that when he heard the call for Jarwin, he
Speaker 1: was like, oh man, that's the play. That's the play
Speaker 1: that Witten has. He's like, he's not gonna like that.
Speaker 1: And whether he did or didn't, they didn't make sure
Speaker 1: when they got to the four yard line that they
Speaker 1: ran a play exactly for him. But nobody would ever
Speaker 1: admit this publicly, but like when that happened, I was like,
Speaker 1: they like they called that for Witten, like they like
Speaker 1: somebody was like, let's get Whitten his touchdown and his
Speaker 1: first came back. But it was well done, The play
Speaker 1: was well it was well designed. Yeah, and I wouldn't
Speaker 1: It's not like they forced it to him. But like,
Speaker 1: I just feel like somebody said, let's let's get Whitten
Speaker 1: a tuddy and I and I've never heard that before
Speaker 1: and never heard the phrase okay, no talk tod And
Speaker 1: and then I also believe when they've got four touchdowns in,
Speaker 1: I believe that they got to the ten yard line
Speaker 1: and Zeke was gonna get that touchdown. Yeah, they were
Speaker 1: gonna make sure he got in. So were you guys
Speaker 1: at all disappointed in what you saw from from Pollard?
Speaker 1: Because I'll say for myself, I had higher expectations of
Speaker 1: what he would be and I was thinking at the
Speaker 1: time what he would be in the event that Zeke
Speaker 1: wasn't back. But at one point eight average thirteen carries
Speaker 1: A little bit disappointed you guys. I think that's a
Speaker 1: little deceiving though he didn't play that great, but a
Speaker 1: lot of those carries there at the end of the
Speaker 1: game were when Zeke was out and they took out
Speaker 1: some linemen and they knew they were running it and
Speaker 1: they just stacked it and you know what, you don't
Speaker 1: you're right, but take it right out of Kellen Moore's mouth.
Speaker 1: I appreciated him saying that last night. He was like,
Speaker 1: you know, I'm sure his numbers don't look that great
Speaker 1: on paper because he got he literally called it. He
Speaker 1: was like, we got he got stuck in there at
Speaker 1: the end and the run it out stuff where literally
Speaker 1: we knew we were just going to charge into the
Speaker 1: line and try to kill the clock. I mean, that's
Speaker 1: what they did, and so that's going to affect your stats,
Speaker 1: I thought. He I mean, I'm not I'm not disappointed,
Speaker 1: because immediately in the minute they signed that contract, I
Speaker 1: was like, all right, I'm readjusting my expectations for Tony Pollard.
Speaker 1: I mean, that's just what you're goin to figure it out.
Speaker 1: I don't know if they had already signed him, but
Speaker 1: when they drafted Pollard, I mean, I don't know if
Speaker 1: everyone was convinced Tavon Austin was going to be here
Speaker 1: beyond the team and have the training camp that he did,
Speaker 1: because I think a lot of the end the round
Speaker 1: stuff like that were things that Pollard might be able
Speaker 1: to do, and maybe over time he will, which that
Speaker 1: would even be even more dangerous because you have a
Speaker 1: running back doing it. Absolutely, I think there's more that
Speaker 1: he can do. But I mean, they were up thirty
Speaker 1: five to ten. The passing game was humming. Like if
Speaker 1: we're upset that Tony Pollard, if they didn't show enough
Speaker 1: of their Tony Pollard package in week one against an
Speaker 1: overmatch team, I mean, it's kind of splitting hairs at
Speaker 1: that point. Right. All right, let's go and take our
Speaker 1: final break. We'll come back. We got to talk about
Speaker 1: the defense unit that we all thought was maybe a
Speaker 1: better unit, but we'll ask the question did they perform
Speaker 1: like yesterday. We'll talk about that when we come right back.
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Speaker 1: the Break, Welcome Back. It is the final segment of
Speaker 1: the Brake Clyde from the SWBC Mortgage Studios. At the start,
Speaker 1: we're gonna talk about the Cowboys defense. Now gave up
Speaker 1: seventeen points. But I guess the part that you could
Speaker 1: at least start the conversation with, as they gave up
Speaker 1: one hundred and twenty yards on eleven carries a ten
Speaker 1: point nine average. To say, Quon Barkley, are you at
Speaker 1: all concerned about the cowboys inability to stop the run yesterday?
Speaker 1: I'm not concerned. I don't. They didn't. They did not
Speaker 1: play their best game. They weren't amazing by any stretch.
Speaker 1: I honestly, you know, the Cleveland Browns got spanked yesterday,
Speaker 1: and I don't care what anybody says, like it looked
Speaker 1: like a product of them buying their own height before
Speaker 1: they actually played a game. I wonder. I mean, they're good,
Speaker 1: they're very good, but the Dallas defense, all of a sudden,
Speaker 1: that's I mean, that's where the star power is. I
Speaker 1: mean that sounds stupid because they have a lot of
Speaker 1: stars on offense too, But I mean, you got contrary.
Speaker 1: Jalen Smith just signed his contract d laws of one
Speaker 1: hundred million dollar player Vander esh is the wolf Hunter.
Speaker 1: Like there's some I don't want to call them divas,
Speaker 1: but you know what these are guys that are they're
Speaker 1: not the no name orphans. Yeah, a few years ago,
Speaker 1: and I wonder it looked like they were buying their
Speaker 1: own height before playing on that first drive, Like the
Speaker 1: Giants came out and we're like, hey, this is the NFL.
Speaker 1: We're gonna we're pretty good too, And that's what it
Speaker 1: looked like. And then they got punched in the mouth
Speaker 1: a little bit and they responded really well to it.
Speaker 1: They're like, Okay, that was Embar saying we're not gonna
Speaker 1: let you do that anymore. And that's kind of my
Speaker 1: impression and the reason I say that. I said this
Speaker 1: on Twitter last night when the game was in doubt,
Speaker 1: like before the Cowboys had built up this fantastic lead.
Speaker 1: After the first touchdown, they went punt punt, turnover on
Speaker 1: down field goal, takeaway punt punt, and by that point
Speaker 1: it's thirty five ten and you're playing pre event just
Speaker 1: to keep anything stupid from happening. So, yeah, the Giants
Speaker 1: had four hundred and seventy yards. They scored some garbage
Speaker 1: time touchdowns, but after an ugly first drive, I thought
Speaker 1: the defense did exactly what they needed to ye, all right,
Speaker 1: So but I saw this game kind of like a
Speaker 1: preseason game for the defense, and I know a lot
Speaker 1: of them did play in the preseason and all that,
Speaker 1: but it's like just putting all the elements back together,
Speaker 1: you know, Byron Engine's coming back, DeMarcus Lawrence back in
Speaker 1: the mix, everyone in the defensive line coming in as
Speaker 1: a whole, I think, you know, it was just kind
Speaker 1: of getting the speed going, getting into the same rhythm,
Speaker 1: and getting everyone syncd in together. Yeah, on that note,
Speaker 1: last night, the Cowboys only had six quarterback hits and
Speaker 1: one sack, which I thought the sack, the quarterback hits,
Speaker 1: that seems good. The sacks seemed a little bit off
Speaker 1: to me that this team that's that's full of guys
Speaker 1: that seemed to be able to push rush the passer
Speaker 1: pretty well ended up with only one sack. Do you
Speaker 1: guys attribute that to the fact that you had guys
Speaker 1: like Crawford and Lawrence, who are just working back hadn't
Speaker 1: played much in the preseason. Robert Quinn's out a guy
Speaker 1: that they spent some money on this offseason to be
Speaker 1: a pass rusher for them as well. Do you think
Speaker 1: it's more of those kinds of things or do you
Speaker 1: think it was something that the Giants were doing that
Speaker 1: that kept the Cowboys from getting to the passer and
Speaker 1: getting him down more frequently. Eline never has been a
Speaker 1: guy that gets sacked a lot. Well last year he
Speaker 1: was sixth in the league, he said, Cowboys. I mean
Speaker 1: for over the years, he just hasn't. I mean he's
Speaker 1: slowing down obviously, and you know he thought he could
Speaker 1: get out there on the edge. I think vander I
Speaker 1: should close this so quickly that he didn't expect on
Speaker 1: two plays, he didn't expect Bandarash to get there that
Speaker 1: that quickly. The intentional grounding playof thought was a really
Speaker 1: momentum changing play and a bad call actually, I thought,
Speaker 1: but the Cowboys got a break there. But I don't know.
Speaker 1: I don't think it's alarming, but I do think that
Speaker 1: you're not going to face a guy like Sequon Barkley
Speaker 1: every week. You take away the fifty nine yard run.
Speaker 1: You know, I hate doing that, but even if you
Speaker 1: take it away, it's still averaging six yards to carry.
Speaker 1: So he's tough. But they're not going to face that
Speaker 1: guy every week, and but that will face better receivers
Speaker 1: and quarterbacks. So yeah, I mean, I has something to watch.
Speaker 1: There's something I mean in the NFL, it's never a
Speaker 1: good idea to just boldly just plow ahead and R
Speaker 1: eleven will just beat your eleven, Like you get beat
Speaker 1: that way. At the same time, when you have that
Speaker 1: guy with his tree trunk legs and just arguably the
Speaker 1: best back in the league, and on two different like
Speaker 1: you know, inches to go situations, you're like, screw that.
Speaker 1: We're gonna roll Eli Manning out and get him on
Speaker 1: the move. That's that's what's gonna do it. Like I
Speaker 1: just twice they did that, and twice it blew up
Speaker 1: in their face. Like this dude's thirty six. It's at
Speaker 1: thirty seven years old, Like he's never really been known
Speaker 1: for his mobility other than a crazy Super Bowl play.
Speaker 1: What are you doing? Like why would you do that
Speaker 1: third and two down there? And we were telling ourselves
Speaker 1: they got two plays to get this and the first
Speaker 1: one they give it to Penny. I don't even know
Speaker 1: his first name, Eli, No, I don't know his name.
Speaker 1: Penny one in one yard, fourth and one and then
Speaker 1: they roll out Eli. I mean, can you imagine that's
Speaker 1: like Lenahan stuff right there, of like we would have
Speaker 1: led the show with that right not giving it to Zeke,
Speaker 1: giving it to Ola Wally first, and then you can't
Speaker 1: even say Dak. It would have to be like a
Speaker 1: Romo type rolling out Cooper Rush Cooper, Yeah, somebody that
Speaker 1: you're like this, you know, the best option is Barkley
Speaker 1: or Zeke. But because they really hadn't stopped it most
Speaker 1: of the day that I I mean, he wanted yards, he
Speaker 1: got yards for the most part it and you know,
Speaker 1: I definitely don't want to downplay it. Barkley, Barkley got him.
Speaker 1: It's something to watch. I mean, the first play of
Speaker 1: the game, you know, vander esh and Heath both got beat.
Speaker 1: She fetched him. That was amazing first drive of the game,
Speaker 1: because really, I think the first play of the game
Speaker 1: was interesting with you know, he hadn't lost a fumble
Speaker 1: all year long, and Xavier Woods goes up there on
Speaker 1: the actual first play of the game and pops the
Speaker 1: ball out. That could have been a huge, uh you know,
Speaker 1: tone setting play there by Woods. I thought Xavier Woods
Speaker 1: did play well. I mean, he played well throughout the game,
Speaker 1: had eleven tackles, but to lead the team. But he
Speaker 1: was all over the place forcing forcing that fumble, had
Speaker 1: a nice play on the goal line. It looked good.
Speaker 1: It's so weird. We I said this during the break,
Speaker 1: but it's so weird. You know, we're big college football fans.
Speaker 1: Go Tigers. Not that we need to talk about that, right, congratulations.
Speaker 1: That's what college football is like. The first game of
Speaker 1: the season. You usually play like erectional state. You you,
Speaker 1: you know, you you crap the bed for a quarter
Speaker 1: and then you're like, all right, all right, let's go.
Speaker 1: We're playing football now. And all of a sudden you're
Speaker 1: up twenty eight to seven, and then you get your
Speaker 1: young guys in and directional State, you get some stuff
Speaker 1: going and you're like, well, this really didn't look as impressive.
Speaker 1: The stat sheet doesn't look as impressive as the game was.
Speaker 1: And that's what I mean. You don't see that in
Speaker 1: the NFL, but that's kind of what this was like.
Speaker 1: The Giants came out and popped them and was like, whoa,
Speaker 1: that's ooh, that was kind of embarrassing. All right, let's
Speaker 1: get this thing going, and all of a sudden, it's
Speaker 1: thirty five ten and Zach Martin's out of the game
Speaker 1: because he doesn't need to be there, and you just
Speaker 1: it's kind of trippy when you see that happening. I mean,
Speaker 1: first downs the Giants had twenty five, Cowboys twenty three.
Speaker 1: And then total yards the Cowboys had twenty four more yards.
Speaker 1: Do you I mean, don't look away from the stat sheet.
Speaker 1: Do you know what well, you're a big fantasy football guy,
Speaker 1: do you know what ever? Evan Ingram's line was, Yeah,
Speaker 1: it was like eleven eleven catches for one hundred yards
Speaker 1: and a touchdown. Yeah, like he had one of the
Speaker 1: team some point. He might have had the best game
Speaker 1: of any tight end in the league. And I literally
Speaker 1: up there I saw that last night, and I was
Speaker 1: like he did, because like I was writing stories and
Speaker 1: stuff when that all stuff happened, because I was like,
Speaker 1: I guess he had an impact on the game. Although
Speaker 1: that's gonna be his role all season. I mean, you
Speaker 1: think about an offense like that, They don't have a
Speaker 1: lot of offensive weapons in the passing game, and he's
Speaker 1: probably the most He's probably the best offensive receiving threat
Speaker 1: they've got on their team. He is a very good player.
Speaker 1: I'm not trying to knock him, but my point is
Speaker 1: he had a dominant stat line and I'm over here
Speaker 1: like an afterthought in the game, like I don't even
Speaker 1: remember him doing anything. It's kind of hard when your
Speaker 1: best offensive weapon, outside of your running it, your best
Speaker 1: receiving weapon, is a tight end. It makes it very
Speaker 1: very tough, especially you get into a game like they
Speaker 1: were yesterday, where this team's running up to score on
Speaker 1: you and you got to start finding ways to get
Speaker 1: these quick points. You just don't have the horses to
Speaker 1: be able to do it. Here's the final question I
Speaker 1: have for you, guys, and this is more. It goes
Speaker 1: back to what Amber said at the beginning of the
Speaker 1: show and how you know she's trying to temper her
Speaker 1: expectations year for all those fans out there that are
Speaker 1: listening without completely destroying their excitement today, that's a perspective
Speaker 1: for those fans on what we saw yesterday and how
Speaker 1: great it was yesterday in the context of a fuller
Speaker 1: season and what that might mean for a farmer season.
Speaker 1: I can say this, the Giants and the Cowboys always
Speaker 1: plays pretty close games. Regardless of who's good that year
Speaker 1: or not. They find a way to keep it close.
Speaker 1: And it looked like it was going to go that
Speaker 1: way for a little bit, and then, like Dave said,
Speaker 1: like happens in college games, we're just better than you,
Speaker 1: and we're gonna we're gonna show it over the course
Speaker 1: of sixty minutes. It reminds me of that Patriots Cowboys
Speaker 1: game in two thousand and seven when they were undefeated
Speaker 1: and they come in here and they were hanging with
Speaker 1: it for a while, but the clock keeps going, and
Speaker 1: after sixty minutes, you look up and they've scored forty
Speaker 1: eight on you because they just keep scoring and you can't,
Speaker 1: you know. And that's what I think happened. The better
Speaker 1: team you They just showed that they were better and
Speaker 1: they don't always do that to teams, and they did
Speaker 1: it in this game. So that's a sign. Uh yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean it, there's nothing wrong with being excited to spet. Like.
Speaker 1: The offense was fun again. It looked modern. It was
Speaker 1: all the stuff we've been clamoring for. And I would
Speaker 1: that's not going to change. It might not be as
Speaker 1: absurdly effective, but it's gonna be happening all years. So
Speaker 1: that's exciting. Um. But man, I mean, the Ravens did
Speaker 1: this too, and I feel like the Ravens open every
Speaker 1: season by just plastering somebody like that, like three or
Speaker 1: four years in a row, they've won like fifty five
Speaker 1: to ten. They beat the crap out of Miami yesterday
Speaker 1: and it has come to down. But my point is,
Speaker 1: you know, the Ravens haven't won a Super Bowl in
Speaker 1: seven years, like you know a lot. I mean, as
Speaker 1: good as you look in Week one, it doesn't necessarily
Speaker 1: have bearing. But the trends are what I watch, and
Speaker 1: I don't think Kellen Moore is just suddenly gonna shelve
Speaker 1: his offense for the rest of the year. So that's
Speaker 1: what's encouraging for me. But I'm not I'm not ready
Speaker 1: to crown anybody off of the strength of beating a
Speaker 1: bad football team. How much do you guys expecting that
Speaker 1: The fact that this was the first time the NFL
Speaker 1: got to see Kellen Moore's offense and they don't really
Speaker 1: have a good playbook on his tendencies yet how much
Speaker 1: do you think that was a factor yesterday and then
Speaker 1: as you move forward, becomes less and less of a factor.
Speaker 1: The more there's there's more, there's film on tape of
Speaker 1: what he likes to do in certain situations. See. I
Speaker 1: think it's pretty similar to when Dak and Seek first
Speaker 1: got here. You know, other teams had no idea who
Speaker 1: these guys really were, what they could do on a
Speaker 1: professional level, and that's why I believe that they were
Speaker 1: so successful that year. Now with Kellen Moore, I'm just
Speaker 1: really curious to see after several games once other teams
Speaker 1: star studying his playbook and trying better defenses, trying to
Speaker 1: analyze exactly how to stop them. You know, what is
Speaker 1: he going to do under that kind of pressure? Is
Speaker 1: he going to be able to adjust and play a
Speaker 1: better game? That's what I'm curious about. But I am
Speaker 1: still excited. There's nothing wrong with that, I am And
Speaker 1: here's here's Here's the thing too, is the fact that
Speaker 1: the offense made me forget about the defense in a way.
Speaker 1: Does that make sense? Like, um, the offense played so
Speaker 1: well that you weren't even concerned about the defense and whatever, exactly,
Speaker 1: thank you you got exactly, but I was chemistry show.
Speaker 1: But that's the point. And I believe that the defense
Speaker 1: is gonna pick it up next week and get back
Speaker 1: to their groove. And once that happens, and you got
Speaker 1: both sides of the ball playing at that level, they're
Speaker 1: gonna be very destructive. I think the defense did play well.
Speaker 1: This is kind of sounding like they didn't play well. No, no, no,
Speaker 1: compared to what we've seen in the past. Well yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: the expectations. Yeah, I mean I think they I think
Speaker 1: they did a really nice job in the game, and
Speaker 1: so um this is they gave up ten points really
Speaker 1: in my opinion, and that's definitely good enough to win
Speaker 1: a lot of games. So it just looks balanced. You know,
Speaker 1: the special teams did a nice job, and you don't
Speaker 1: have to worry about you don't have to worry about
Speaker 1: the kicker. If you're not scoring, you're not settling for
Speaker 1: field goal. Good point. And how about the red zone?
Speaker 1: You know, two out of two, but they didn't even
Speaker 1: get down there because they were scoring above that. I
Speaker 1: just I just think that Randall Cobb, I mean, Beasley
Speaker 1: as good as he was doing what he does, cobbed
Speaker 1: and just give you a little bit more. He can
Speaker 1: give you that more down the field type type presence. So, um,
Speaker 1: just a great start. I mean it's it's a great start,
Speaker 1: but that's all it is. I mean there's I would
Speaker 1: say there's gonna be sixteen teams that are one to know,
Speaker 1: but that's not the case because the Cardinal Tis ruined
Speaker 1: it and it was the NFL has ruined it with
Speaker 1: their rules of ties. Yeah, was that you that that
Speaker 1: put that out? Tyler Murray? Did you call him that? No,
Speaker 1: that was Bill Builds a good joke. It was actually
Speaker 1: really good. That does sound like me. Yeah, that's what
Speaker 1: someone in the press box. We're gonna it wasn't me.
Speaker 1: We're gonna have to do math like every time we
Speaker 1: talk about the Well, no we're not, because the Lions
Speaker 1: and Cardinals are not gonna playoffs. But when the Packers
Speaker 1: and somebody tied, I hate ties, I hate it. But
Speaker 1: it was a good game for a Cowboys, good start
Speaker 1: to the season. This week, it'll be a little bit
Speaker 1: more of a challenge, I would think with this Washington
Speaker 1: Redskins team. I think they got a little bit more there.
Speaker 1: We'll talk about that starting tomorrow. We'll start getting you
Speaker 1: guys ready for that game until they're for Nick Gatman,
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