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Speaker 1: And I was like, okay, sure, you know. I mean,

430
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Speaker 1: I have my I have my b f A. I love.

431
00:25:33,000 --> 00:25:37,040
Speaker 1: I love acting so much. It is it is if

432
00:25:37,040 --> 00:25:40,479
Speaker 1: I'm not creating something, then I don't feel right. Everything

433
00:25:40,520 --> 00:25:44,880
Speaker 1: feels off in my life. Um. And so I was like, man,

434
00:25:44,920 --> 00:25:47,960
Speaker 1: I don't know, Like I've children loved me, but I've

435
00:25:48,000 --> 00:25:51,240
Speaker 1: never wanted to have any myself, and I've always been

436
00:25:51,280 --> 00:25:54,919
Speaker 1: like I enjoyed children with a time limit. And you know,

437
00:25:55,520 --> 00:25:58,760
Speaker 1: so I was like, you know, if there was a

438
00:25:58,840 --> 00:26:03,200
Speaker 1: child crying in public, I'd be like, oh my gosh, um,

439
00:26:03,240 --> 00:26:07,480
Speaker 1: you know, kind of that insolent, petulant type of reaction.

440
00:26:08,160 --> 00:26:10,640
Speaker 1: So I was just like, you know what I'm gonna

441
00:26:10,680 --> 00:26:13,360
Speaker 1: I'm gonna try this. Let's just see. Um. I love

442
00:26:13,400 --> 00:26:17,160
Speaker 1: serving people, I love helping, I love serving, so let's

443
00:26:17,200 --> 00:26:19,679
Speaker 1: just see if it works somehow. So I got it.

444
00:26:19,760 --> 00:26:24,440
Speaker 1: I got an audition and I did a partially improvised

445
00:26:24,480 --> 00:26:27,440
Speaker 1: monologue based on a communic character that I had done,

446
00:26:28,440 --> 00:26:30,800
Speaker 1: uh in a in a show. And that's that's my thing.

447
00:26:30,880 --> 00:26:34,840
Speaker 1: Is I love comedy. I love doing comedy, physical comedy. Uh.

448
00:26:35,040 --> 00:26:38,680
Speaker 1: I've done some clown training, but I just love outrageous

449
00:26:38,680 --> 00:26:43,880
Speaker 1: physical comedy. It was so funny. I laughed my face off,

450
00:26:44,320 --> 00:26:46,960
Speaker 1: so funny, and it was about botox, which made it

451
00:26:46,960 --> 00:26:49,840
Speaker 1: even funnier. Yes, Um, I was lucky enough to one

452
00:26:49,880 --> 00:26:53,160
Speaker 1: of my buddies to for Pain, who was a local playwright,

453
00:26:53,920 --> 00:26:57,159
Speaker 1: wrote this one role that I did, and it was

454
00:26:57,200 --> 00:27:00,119
Speaker 1: a woman who had had a botox accident and she

455
00:27:00,160 --> 00:27:04,240
Speaker 1: could no longer move her face. And so the entire

456
00:27:04,480 --> 00:27:06,680
Speaker 1: you can't see this at home, but I'm doing ventriloquism,

457
00:27:07,400 --> 00:27:12,960
Speaker 1: the entire monologue, how to the delivered without moving my face. Um.

458
00:27:13,000 --> 00:27:14,639
Speaker 1: So thankfully it worked. And then I got to go

459
00:27:14,680 --> 00:27:17,600
Speaker 1: into the hospital and it was I was so nervous

460
00:27:17,680 --> 00:27:21,000
Speaker 1: because you have people there who are They're experts at mine,

461
00:27:21,359 --> 00:27:24,679
Speaker 1: they're experts at juggling, they're experts at magic. And I'm like,

462
00:27:24,760 --> 00:27:27,720
Speaker 1: I'm a great improviser and I can make a joke

463
00:27:27,760 --> 00:27:31,399
Speaker 1: out of just about anything. Uh. And so I was

464
00:27:31,480 --> 00:27:33,800
Speaker 1: very lucky that I got to go in there and

465
00:27:33,960 --> 00:27:37,879
Speaker 1: audition and somehow I made it onto the team. The

466
00:27:37,960 --> 00:27:40,560
Speaker 1: callbacks were in the hospital, so we did bring people

467
00:27:40,560 --> 00:27:44,720
Speaker 1: into the hospital environment before. Yeah, so I was kind

468
00:27:44,720 --> 00:27:47,280
Speaker 1: of walking around and I was like, all right, okay, cool, cool,

469
00:27:47,520 --> 00:27:50,439
Speaker 1: um it's it's a My grandmother was in a nursing

470
00:27:50,440 --> 00:27:54,560
Speaker 1: home for like sixteen years, so I'm very comfortable with

471
00:27:54,760 --> 00:27:57,920
Speaker 1: medical environments and with long term care environments and that

472
00:27:58,000 --> 00:28:02,000
Speaker 1: kind of stuff. Um. So I went in there and

473
00:28:02,160 --> 00:28:06,080
Speaker 1: I loved it. And I had I learned about handwashing. Guys,

474
00:28:06,359 --> 00:28:09,840
Speaker 1: we're going to talk about that in a second. I

475
00:28:09,920 --> 00:28:13,640
Speaker 1: really need it, but I uh one of the things

476
00:28:13,640 --> 00:28:16,280
Speaker 1: that I discovered. So you know, I made it through

477
00:28:16,320 --> 00:28:17,680
Speaker 1: that and then they were like, all right, come onto

478
00:28:17,680 --> 00:28:20,800
Speaker 1: the team for a probationary period. We had a clown

479
00:28:20,840 --> 00:28:22,919
Speaker 1: come down from New York City and she was working

480
00:28:22,960 --> 00:28:25,439
Speaker 1: with us as sort of like a training week, and

481
00:28:25,440 --> 00:28:29,919
Speaker 1: that kind of stuff. And I remember sitting at lunch

482
00:28:30,200 --> 00:28:33,080
Speaker 1: in our then dressing room at one of the hospitals,

483
00:28:33,840 --> 00:28:39,680
Speaker 1: and I started crying because I mean, number one, I'm

484
00:28:39,680 --> 00:28:43,280
Speaker 1: a soft touch, but number two, it was the first

485
00:28:43,360 --> 00:28:45,960
Speaker 1: time that I understood that there was a reason that

486
00:28:46,000 --> 00:28:49,280
Speaker 1: I had been given the gifts that I have, and

487
00:28:49,440 --> 00:28:52,160
Speaker 1: that there was actually a place for them to be used.

488
00:28:52,760 --> 00:28:59,200
Speaker 1: Two make people's lives appreciably better. Like I sang a

489
00:28:59,360 --> 00:29:04,280
Speaker 1: hungry infant to sleep, like she couldn't be fed because

490
00:29:04,280 --> 00:29:06,640
Speaker 1: she was going to have to have surgery or something.

491
00:29:06,760 --> 00:29:09,080
Speaker 1: You know, who knows what Their grandmother was holding her

492
00:29:09,440 --> 00:29:11,280
Speaker 1: and I saying that baby to sleep and I was like,

493
00:29:11,480 --> 00:29:15,760
Speaker 1: whoa what what? That is the thing I can do?

494
00:29:16,280 --> 00:29:21,360
Speaker 1: Are you crazy? And the person that I was UM

495
00:29:21,400 --> 00:29:24,040
Speaker 1: with at the time, Dctor not right When we walked

496
00:29:24,040 --> 00:29:26,040
Speaker 1: out of the room, he looked at me and he

497
00:29:26,080 --> 00:29:28,840
Speaker 1: said he's like, you got to touch buddy. He's like,

498
00:29:29,080 --> 00:29:32,040
Speaker 1: this is this is for you? And it was just

499
00:29:32,080 --> 00:29:35,520
Speaker 1: one of those things where I was like, oh, of

500
00:29:35,560 --> 00:29:37,360
Speaker 1: course this is what this is what I'm sure I

501
00:29:37,400 --> 00:29:41,240
Speaker 1: thought I should be doing. This guy's UM. So it's

502
00:29:41,280 --> 00:29:47,560
Speaker 1: been a real learning experience UM. And there are highs

503
00:29:47,560 --> 00:29:50,600
Speaker 1: and there are lows, um and they are really tough days,

504
00:29:50,640 --> 00:29:54,200
Speaker 1: and they're really just ridiculously fun days. But any day

505
00:29:54,200 --> 00:29:57,200
Speaker 1: that I get to do it, I'm so grateful. Um

506
00:29:57,240 --> 00:30:03,640
Speaker 1: so about that hand hygiene, that was beautiful, that was

507
00:30:03,400 --> 00:30:05,760
Speaker 1: that's amazing. This is stories that I would have never

508
00:30:05,800 --> 00:30:08,520
Speaker 1: thought of when we were doing the clown special or

509
00:30:08,640 --> 00:30:13,040
Speaker 1: the Colm episode special. Clown episode. I did say, please

510
00:30:13,040 --> 00:30:15,479
Speaker 1: don't let them dress up, because I do. I'm one

511
00:30:15,480 --> 00:30:16,880
Speaker 1: of those people who does have a few of the

512
00:30:16,920 --> 00:30:19,960
Speaker 1: clown You have a little bit cloud, yes, probably pretty

513
00:30:19,960 --> 00:30:22,840
Speaker 1: a good bit. Also told the story that with any

514
00:30:22,920 --> 00:30:25,600
Speaker 1: there's a very big backstory to that. That was a

515
00:30:25,640 --> 00:30:28,320
Speaker 1: negative experience on top of my experience at the sarcas

516
00:30:28,600 --> 00:30:36,520
Speaker 1: with a guy coming after just different things. But the

517
00:30:36,560 --> 00:30:41,720
Speaker 1: Joe question back story that was too negative that I'm like,

518
00:30:41,760 --> 00:30:43,920
Speaker 1: I'm I'm the negative Nelly of the group between the

519
00:30:43,960 --> 00:30:45,520
Speaker 1: two of m like, I'm not gonna add this one,

520
00:30:45,800 --> 00:30:48,240
Speaker 1: but no. So in general, I'm just like a little

521
00:30:48,520 --> 00:30:51,560
Speaker 1: absolutely absolutely petrified, to the point that even today someone

522
00:30:51,640 --> 00:30:55,160
Speaker 1: in full garb was like, shrink away cost you. Yeah,

523
00:30:55,240 --> 00:30:58,520
Speaker 1: these make up they are adorable. You guys are not

524
00:30:58,600 --> 00:31:00,640
Speaker 1: on that level. But are the things that we were

525
00:31:00,640 --> 00:31:03,760
Speaker 1: talking about, was it. Yeah, I know, I'm we're about

526
00:31:03,800 --> 00:31:05,760
Speaker 1: to We're about to start dealing with that once we

527
00:31:05,800 --> 00:31:09,480
Speaker 1: go into the hospital. But let's remember, guys, it is

528
00:31:09,520 --> 00:31:15,280
Speaker 1: not a clown the monsters, that's true. Yeah, I was

529
00:31:15,320 --> 00:31:16,960
Speaker 1: thinking about that other day. It's like, we really should

530
00:31:17,000 --> 00:31:21,040
Speaker 1: be spiders should be the ones. A lot more people

531
00:31:21,040 --> 00:31:24,440
Speaker 1: are scared of spiders. I'm not as scared of spiders

532
00:31:24,440 --> 00:31:26,560
Speaker 1: in that letter because I can actually stop one to death.

533
00:31:26,840 --> 00:31:30,400
Speaker 1: That's the Yeah. I like spiders. They chase me. I

534
00:31:30,760 --> 00:31:33,360
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go after you. Yeah, I mean, if there's

535
00:31:33,360 --> 00:31:35,840
Speaker 1: a saucy one, yeah, if they're hanging out in the

536
00:31:35,880 --> 00:31:38,240
Speaker 1: corner too leaving them be. But if it's coming at

537
00:31:38,280 --> 00:31:39,840
Speaker 1: me or was hanging above me where I know it's

538
00:31:39,840 --> 00:31:41,480
Speaker 1: about to drop on me, We're gonna have a fight,

539
00:31:42,320 --> 00:31:46,200
Speaker 1: and I'm gonna I'm gonna freaking win. We have a

540
00:31:46,280 --> 00:31:50,640
Speaker 1: lot more to discuss with our wonderful interviewees, but first

541
00:31:50,640 --> 00:31:52,360
Speaker 1: we're going to pause for a quick break for word

542
00:31:52,400 --> 00:32:08,600
Speaker 1: from our sponsor, and we're back. Thank you sponsored. Let's

543
00:32:08,600 --> 00:32:13,160
Speaker 1: get back into the interview. Yeah, so this is a

544
00:32:13,160 --> 00:32:15,920
Speaker 1: really beautiful day because I think any you know, I'm

545
00:32:15,920 --> 00:32:17,440
Speaker 1: talking about that these are the things that I haven't

546
00:32:17,440 --> 00:32:19,560
Speaker 1: thought about in a long time, and I knew it existed.

547
00:32:19,960 --> 00:32:22,880
Speaker 1: That people come into entertain to give a distraction and

548
00:32:22,920 --> 00:32:25,360
Speaker 1: a lot and this is really beautiful to hear your

549
00:32:25,400 --> 00:32:29,400
Speaker 1: stories and um, how you're going into it. But with that, yes,

550
00:32:29,520 --> 00:32:30,960
Speaker 1: tell us the things that we need to know that

551
00:32:31,000 --> 00:32:33,800
Speaker 1: we wouldn't have thought about once you go into So

552
00:32:33,840 --> 00:32:35,680
Speaker 1: one of the things to keep in mind any time

553
00:32:36,000 --> 00:32:40,560
Speaker 1: you are in a medical surrounding, you need to hygiene

554
00:32:40,760 --> 00:32:43,640
Speaker 1: is super important. It's very important for us because we

555
00:32:43,680 --> 00:32:47,200
Speaker 1: are moving across all levels of the hospital. We are

556
00:32:47,320 --> 00:32:52,320
Speaker 1: entertaining kids with compromised immune systems UM. Some of them

557
00:32:52,320 --> 00:32:55,200
Speaker 1: have no immune systems, you know, like where we're dealing

558
00:32:55,280 --> 00:32:59,400
Speaker 1: with kids who are maybe they're okay normally, but anything

559
00:32:59,440 --> 00:33:05,360
Speaker 1: extract you know what, the chemo, chemotherapy UM is really tough.

560
00:33:05,840 --> 00:33:09,360
Speaker 1: Chemo and radiation really tough on kids, and it really

561
00:33:09,680 --> 00:33:12,440
Speaker 1: knocks down their natural defenses. So the last thing that

562
00:33:12,480 --> 00:33:15,320
Speaker 1: we want to do is bring anything into them. So

563
00:33:15,480 --> 00:33:18,040
Speaker 1: anytime we're on a new unit, we wash our hands

564
00:33:19,000 --> 00:33:22,640
Speaker 1: UM and the way that you wash your hands, my friends,

565
00:33:23,000 --> 00:33:24,320
Speaker 1: all right, so you take it for real? Is there

566
00:33:24,360 --> 00:33:25,760
Speaker 1: a song for because if there is, I want you

567
00:33:25,800 --> 00:33:28,320
Speaker 1: to sing it, we have it's usually that you can

568
00:33:28,320 --> 00:33:31,520
Speaker 1: do the alphabet or happy Pappy Birthday. Well that's how

569
00:33:31,520 --> 00:33:35,480
Speaker 1: long you need to have on you. So the important

570
00:33:35,560 --> 00:33:39,160
Speaker 1: one of the most important things with handwashing is friction. Okay.

571
00:33:39,560 --> 00:33:41,280
Speaker 1: So first the thing you're going to do is you're

572
00:33:41,280 --> 00:33:44,960
Speaker 1: going to wet your hands. Okay, and yeah, you want

573
00:33:44,960 --> 00:33:48,840
Speaker 1: to take a video and Samantha needs this information. So

574
00:33:49,160 --> 00:33:51,000
Speaker 1: um so your hands are now wet. So now you

575
00:33:51,000 --> 00:33:53,600
Speaker 1: put the soap on it. And so this is how

576
00:33:53,640 --> 00:33:56,320
Speaker 1: you go. You put your palms together. So happy birthday

577
00:33:56,400 --> 00:33:59,880
Speaker 1: to you, Happy birthday, and especially if it's our for

578
00:34:00,040 --> 00:34:02,800
Speaker 1: swash of the day, Gina would be no rings, no

579
00:34:03,000 --> 00:34:06,800
Speaker 1: watch yeah, no rings those any piss for bacterias to

580
00:34:07,280 --> 00:34:09,480
Speaker 1: any time you have a chef that has rings on,

581
00:34:09,600 --> 00:34:13,000
Speaker 1: don't eat their food because that's where bacteria hides. Um.

582
00:34:13,080 --> 00:34:17,319
Speaker 1: So you're gonna hook your fingers around each other. Now

583
00:34:17,360 --> 00:34:19,920
Speaker 1: this area right here, the pad at the bottom of

584
00:34:19,960 --> 00:34:22,400
Speaker 1: the thumb and the thumb are often the most neglected areas.

585
00:34:22,600 --> 00:34:24,080
Speaker 1: And what you do that is you just coind of

586
00:34:24,080 --> 00:34:29,480
Speaker 1: twistt twist toists twist right, So now you've gotten between

587
00:34:29,480 --> 00:34:31,720
Speaker 1: your fingers you've got in the palms, you're gonna rub

588
00:34:31,760 --> 00:34:36,120
Speaker 1: the backs of your hands. And also if this is

589
00:34:36,160 --> 00:34:37,640
Speaker 1: the first wash of the day, then I'm also going

590
00:34:37,680 --> 00:34:40,560
Speaker 1: to be rinsing under my nails. So you scrape your

591
00:34:40,600 --> 00:34:44,160
Speaker 1: nails right, and then you're gonna you're still foamy, and

592
00:34:44,200 --> 00:34:48,040
Speaker 1: you're going to do your wrists right. And now you

593
00:34:48,040 --> 00:34:51,520
Speaker 1: you rinse from wrist to hand. Wrist so wrist to

594
00:34:51,600 --> 00:34:55,799
Speaker 1: fingertip like that. Okay, shake it and then draw your

595
00:34:55,800 --> 00:34:58,319
Speaker 1: hands and you're good to go. And then we make

596
00:34:58,360 --> 00:35:01,640
Speaker 1: sure we also foam in and fomat of rooms or

597
00:35:01,719 --> 00:35:04,880
Speaker 1: gel in and gel out of rooms. Don't hand sanitizer,

598
00:35:05,000 --> 00:35:09,480
Speaker 1: so hand sanitizer, they're awesome antimicrobial hand sanitizer, which has

599
00:35:09,520 --> 00:35:13,719
Speaker 1: made my hands look like Baba Yaga's. I only have

600
00:35:13,880 --> 00:35:18,400
Speaker 1: chicken faith for hands now, terrible old lady hands. I'm

601
00:35:18,400 --> 00:35:23,640
Speaker 1: gonna be like Madonna and start wearing finger at gloves. UM.

602
00:35:23,680 --> 00:35:27,440
Speaker 1: But yeah, that's very very important. UM. Over nine of

603
00:35:27,440 --> 00:35:31,320
Speaker 1: infections are spread through touching your eyes. It's the mucous

604
00:35:31,320 --> 00:35:34,120
Speaker 1: membrane in your eye. So your eyes, your nose, and

605
00:35:34,160 --> 00:35:37,799
Speaker 1: your mouth, you don't touch them unless your hands are clean. UM.

606
00:35:37,920 --> 00:35:41,080
Speaker 1: Super super important, and then you washed immediately after you

607
00:35:41,120 --> 00:35:43,680
Speaker 1: do exactly, and so for us also, we also wash

608
00:35:43,840 --> 00:35:45,960
Speaker 1: after any time we get to give a kid a

609
00:35:46,040 --> 00:35:49,520
Speaker 1: high five, or you know, any kind any of that

610
00:35:49,560 --> 00:35:53,759
Speaker 1: sort of interaction. Everywhere we go there will be UM

611
00:35:53,960 --> 00:35:57,800
Speaker 1: signs that say if kids are on contact or contact droplet,

612
00:35:57,840 --> 00:36:02,720
Speaker 1: if there's any reason why touching might be passing infection

613
00:36:02,760 --> 00:36:04,680
Speaker 1: from them to you, in which case we gout and

614
00:36:04,719 --> 00:36:07,160
Speaker 1: glove and put on masks to go into the room.

615
00:36:07,440 --> 00:36:10,400
Speaker 1: But we also try to treat anybody that we encounter

616
00:36:10,560 --> 00:36:14,120
Speaker 1: as the potential. You don't know what they have, and

617
00:36:14,160 --> 00:36:16,239
Speaker 1: the last thing we want is for the clowns to

618
00:36:16,719 --> 00:36:20,520
Speaker 1: or anybody to bring something to somebody who's has a

619
00:36:20,560 --> 00:36:23,840
Speaker 1: compromised immune system or happens to be allergic to whatever

620
00:36:23,880 --> 00:36:26,880
Speaker 1: that thing is. UM. And I remember, I think, was

621
00:36:26,880 --> 00:36:29,480
Speaker 1: that working with you that time where we were in

622
00:36:29,480 --> 00:36:32,359
Speaker 1: a waiting room. Kids are playing and stuff, and I

623
00:36:32,440 --> 00:36:34,799
Speaker 1: was watching this kid and playing the ukulele, and my

624
00:36:34,880 --> 00:36:37,640
Speaker 1: partner's over here was that you blowing bubbles or something,

625
00:36:37,719 --> 00:36:42,240
Speaker 1: and this kid UM just like pulled the biggest booker

626
00:36:42,520 --> 00:36:45,200
Speaker 1: out of his mass. He was clearly one of those

627
00:36:45,239 --> 00:36:47,839
Speaker 1: booger kids. You know how they are, and you know,

628
00:36:47,960 --> 00:36:50,319
Speaker 1: and then it went straight in his mouth. And then

629
00:36:50,440 --> 00:36:53,560
Speaker 1: and and Gina's going to give kids high fives. I'm like,

630
00:36:53,880 --> 00:36:57,239
Speaker 1: not this one. I'm not gonna hi five this guy.

631
00:36:57,680 --> 00:37:00,360
Speaker 1: She gave me the look again. We have of we

632
00:37:00,440 --> 00:37:03,160
Speaker 1: have looks that are just like we're still in clown

633
00:37:03,280 --> 00:37:05,680
Speaker 1: and she'll just give me the no shaky Oh boy.

634
00:37:05,719 --> 00:37:11,960
Speaker 1: We're having fun, aren't we. We gotta go. I mean, yeah,

635
00:37:12,080 --> 00:37:16,200
Speaker 1: there there are some um gooey children. There are children,

636
00:37:16,320 --> 00:37:19,799
Speaker 1: and that the great descriptor gooey children. You know, they've

637
00:37:19,840 --> 00:37:23,040
Speaker 1: got the sticky hands and they got sticky faces. They

638
00:37:23,080 --> 00:37:25,680
Speaker 1: still want to have fun, though, and sometimes they come

639
00:37:25,760 --> 00:37:28,319
Speaker 1: up and they touch you and you can't stop them.

640
00:37:28,360 --> 00:37:30,959
Speaker 1: And then we have something called ox of Ear, which

641
00:37:31,000 --> 00:37:36,399
Speaker 1: is a fantastic um antimicrobial uh spray that we use

642
00:37:36,480 --> 00:37:40,160
Speaker 1: medical grade and we can spray our costumes. We also

643
00:37:40,239 --> 00:37:45,799
Speaker 1: have another cloth crop a bunch of different things. Yeah, yeah,

644
00:37:45,800 --> 00:37:47,520
Speaker 1: I might need you all around for the dragon car.

645
00:37:48,520 --> 00:37:50,440
Speaker 1: I gotta tell you. One of the biggest things with

646
00:37:50,520 --> 00:37:53,239
Speaker 1: dragon con that I always tell my friends the way

647
00:37:53,239 --> 00:37:56,720
Speaker 1: to avoid the con crud. Okay, you need to remember

648
00:37:56,800 --> 00:38:00,680
Speaker 1: that any high touch surface is essentially pat tree dish.

649
00:38:01,120 --> 00:38:03,160
Speaker 1: So when you get into the elevator, which makes a

650
00:38:03,160 --> 00:38:05,120
Speaker 1: lot of sense. Yes, So when you get into the elevator,

651
00:38:05,160 --> 00:38:08,480
Speaker 1: any door handles that you're dealing with, any chairs that

652
00:38:08,520 --> 00:38:10,440
Speaker 1: you're sitting on, if you're touching the edges of the

653
00:38:10,520 --> 00:38:13,640
Speaker 1: chairs in order to kind of scoot into them, Um,

654
00:38:13,719 --> 00:38:18,480
Speaker 1: anything like that. That is just nerms and cover everything,

655
00:38:18,520 --> 00:38:21,960
Speaker 1: cover all of you and don't breathe. Yeah, just use

656
00:38:22,000 --> 00:38:24,640
Speaker 1: that as matt suit as your cute outfits. Yeah. Yeah,

657
00:38:24,680 --> 00:38:26,279
Speaker 1: in my head, I'm just a pick like you know,

658
00:38:26,320 --> 00:38:30,239
Speaker 1: how you see the germ sequences and different shows. Yeah,

659
00:38:30,239 --> 00:38:35,600
Speaker 1: all I see is darkness coming at me. That's what

660
00:38:35,680 --> 00:38:37,400
Speaker 1: is any You did not do a good job preparing

661
00:38:37,400 --> 00:38:42,600
Speaker 1: me on that level. I would like to say we

662
00:38:42,760 --> 00:38:47,400
Speaker 1: just much it. So the big key, guys is you

663
00:38:47,480 --> 00:38:49,439
Speaker 1: just need to wash your hands. You do not need

664
00:38:49,640 --> 00:38:54,840
Speaker 1: antibacterial soap. Regular soap and water is just easily the

665
00:38:54,880 --> 00:38:58,480
Speaker 1: best defense. Purell is great, um, but it is not

666
00:38:59,280 --> 00:39:03,040
Speaker 1: as good as hand washing. So kill everything. Priorle is

667
00:39:03,080 --> 00:39:06,040
Speaker 1: great as a as an intermediary type of thing. But

668
00:39:06,120 --> 00:39:08,480
Speaker 1: you know, you should think about this with things like

669
00:39:08,600 --> 00:39:12,680
Speaker 1: gas pumps um, you know, and being in this job.

670
00:39:12,760 --> 00:39:15,479
Speaker 1: I'm constantly just like so, anytime I need to touch

671
00:39:15,520 --> 00:39:18,600
Speaker 1: my nose, I will take a fabric and I try

672
00:39:18,640 --> 00:39:21,799
Speaker 1: not to touch my face at all anymore, which also

673
00:39:21,840 --> 00:39:28,279
Speaker 1: helps with breakouts. Yes, I was gonna say, your skin

674
00:39:28,440 --> 00:39:32,280
Speaker 1: is listening. Thank you don't what you're talking about. It's jewie.

675
00:39:32,560 --> 00:39:39,080
Speaker 1: I'm young, but it's not oily like it's wonderfully done.

676
00:39:39,120 --> 00:39:43,800
Speaker 1: Oh you know, there's just say it. Um So, we

677
00:39:43,920 --> 00:39:47,560
Speaker 1: got the handwashing part. What other parts of clowning should

678
00:39:47,600 --> 00:39:51,879
Speaker 1: you see? Talents, what activities that you do? Whatever? What

679
00:39:52,000 --> 00:39:55,200
Speaker 1: is something we may not know? Um? Well, we have

680
00:39:55,320 --> 00:39:58,879
Speaker 1: rehearsal with the whole team, all twelve clowns, about once

681
00:39:58,920 --> 00:40:02,120
Speaker 1: a month, and we also have an annual conference that

682
00:40:02,120 --> 00:40:04,360
Speaker 1: we go to where we do skills exchange with clowns

683
00:40:04,360 --> 00:40:08,839
Speaker 1: from other cities, more like clown friends. What wait? Where

684
00:40:09,000 --> 00:40:11,200
Speaker 1: is it? Usually is it in one location or doesn't

685
00:40:11,200 --> 00:40:13,480
Speaker 1: move move around? Last year it was in Atlanta at

686
00:40:13,480 --> 00:40:18,520
Speaker 1: the Center for Puppets and Faboo, and conference will be

687
00:40:18,560 --> 00:40:26,160
Speaker 1: in Dallas. One of our conferences is similar to podcast

688
00:40:26,200 --> 00:40:31,640
Speaker 1: conference in the clown conference together the end, it's just

689
00:40:31,680 --> 00:40:36,719
Speaker 1: going to the end. That would be when the party

690
00:40:36,760 --> 00:40:41,000
Speaker 1: goes down clowns actually know how to party. I believe

691
00:40:41,120 --> 00:40:45,560
Speaker 1: that complicated strange individuals. And I say that as a

692
00:40:45,600 --> 00:40:49,040
Speaker 1: complicated strange individual So yeah, I think we are all

693
00:40:49,080 --> 00:40:50,759
Speaker 1: on that page here lots of the day. But I

694
00:40:50,800 --> 00:40:54,000
Speaker 1: feel like that's a lot of actors in general. They're

695
00:40:54,080 --> 00:40:56,960
Speaker 1: just so vibrant and personality and just the way they think.

696
00:40:57,000 --> 00:41:01,440
Speaker 1: It's different from probably who is very analytical. And I'm like,

697
00:41:01,520 --> 00:41:05,880
Speaker 1: what is hell? And that's okay, and like actors find opportunities.

698
00:41:05,880 --> 00:41:08,600
Speaker 1: I'm like, yeah, okay, that made sense. I wouldn't have

699
00:41:08,600 --> 00:41:13,719
Speaker 1: seen that a punchline scramble. You have your Oh yeah,

700
00:41:14,400 --> 00:41:17,359
Speaker 1: she's got bags of crops. Wait, you have a whole

701
00:41:17,400 --> 00:41:23,080
Speaker 1: bag and no, but you know I have love call

702
00:41:23,160 --> 00:41:28,040
Speaker 1: it my bag of props. Scott at least a tutor

703
00:41:28,040 --> 00:41:32,160
Speaker 1: and a squeaker and tutor and a squeaker here, So

704
00:41:32,320 --> 00:41:35,400
Speaker 1: fist bump me. So this is one of our this

705
00:41:35,440 --> 00:41:38,919
Speaker 1: is one of our big things. Cute. It will blow

706
00:41:38,920 --> 00:41:43,040
Speaker 1: a child's mind, I guarantee you. And so we can

707
00:41:43,040 --> 00:41:46,200
Speaker 1: take this and we can fist bump it, or we

708
00:41:46,320 --> 00:41:49,759
Speaker 1: can through the magic of clown we can get a

709
00:41:49,800 --> 00:41:52,040
Speaker 1: little off our nose and then put it in different places,

710
00:41:52,160 --> 00:41:55,280
Speaker 1: and so then like the kid's elbow will be squeaky,

711
00:41:55,440 --> 00:41:58,319
Speaker 1: or the kids stuffed animal will be squeaky. And the

712
00:41:58,360 --> 00:42:01,600
Speaker 1: best is when they start trying to like kids don't

713
00:42:01,680 --> 00:42:05,160
Speaker 1: have especially young kids don't really know their own strength,

714
00:42:05,320 --> 00:42:08,560
Speaker 1: or you don't know about, um gently touching things unless

715
00:42:08,560 --> 00:42:12,200
Speaker 1: you're like gentle gentle. So if you put the squeak

716
00:42:12,280 --> 00:42:14,640
Speaker 1: on their nose and you their nose, quite often they

717
00:42:14,680 --> 00:42:18,759
Speaker 1: will mash their nose so hard, and I'm just like baby, no, no, no, no,

718
00:42:18,760 --> 00:42:22,440
Speaker 1: no oh. And I should also say, as an addendum,

719
00:42:22,480 --> 00:42:25,040
Speaker 1: I used to when I used to hear children crying,

720
00:42:25,120 --> 00:42:27,440
Speaker 1: it would I would be like, oh my gosh, let

721
00:42:27,440 --> 00:42:29,840
Speaker 1: me go. Now, anytime I hear a child in distress,

722
00:42:30,160 --> 00:42:32,840
Speaker 1: I'm immediately drawn to it and I want to figure

723
00:42:32,880 --> 00:42:36,320
Speaker 1: out how I can help. Um, it's really it's a

724
00:42:36,360 --> 00:42:40,640
Speaker 1: sea change, and it's one eight. I'm just like, I'm like, hey,

725
00:42:40,719 --> 00:42:42,840
Speaker 1: let me just dap bears for you, But don't do.

726
00:42:43,160 --> 00:42:44,719
Speaker 1: I was gonna say so when you see like kids

727
00:42:44,719 --> 00:42:46,560
Speaker 1: that are staring at you at the airport, you're actually

728
00:42:46,560 --> 00:42:48,640
Speaker 1: putting on a whole show. Everybody else is a little

729
00:42:48,680 --> 00:42:51,840
Speaker 1: like trying not to look at a kid sometimes we

730
00:42:51,920 --> 00:42:55,600
Speaker 1: have a thing called check your shoes, um, which is

731
00:42:57,000 --> 00:42:59,840
Speaker 1: essentially looked down or you're wearing your clown shoes. So

732
00:43:00,040 --> 00:43:02,360
Speaker 1: if we're not on our shift, we're just normal humans,

733
00:43:02,760 --> 00:43:06,879
Speaker 1: which means well, okay, normal, but this is just some

734
00:43:07,120 --> 00:43:10,600
Speaker 1: strange middle aged lady who's making googoo faces at your

735
00:43:10,640 --> 00:43:13,000
Speaker 1: baby and trying to fist bump your two year old.

736
00:43:13,800 --> 00:43:17,400
Speaker 1: And it's so there. There's sometimes where I and then

737
00:43:17,440 --> 00:43:19,600
Speaker 1: if you try to explain to them after words, I'm sorry,

738
00:43:19,719 --> 00:43:22,200
Speaker 1: like like, oh no, I'm I'm a hospital clown. That

739
00:43:22,360 --> 00:43:25,920
Speaker 1: it just gets weird. That's not the it's not the

740
00:43:26,000 --> 00:43:31,719
Speaker 1: right in like self you okay, yeah, yeah, I mean,

741
00:43:31,760 --> 00:43:34,120
Speaker 1: and it's right. You know. I am a big fan

742
00:43:34,200 --> 00:43:39,400
Speaker 1: of parents, you know, guarding the right from strange. But

743
00:43:39,480 --> 00:43:42,879
Speaker 1: I just I mean, kids zero in on our faces though.

744
00:43:42,920 --> 00:43:45,680
Speaker 1: It's like they know that we're people are elves to

745
00:43:45,719 --> 00:43:48,600
Speaker 1: play with kids at restaurants, so they try to make

746
00:43:48,680 --> 00:43:51,480
Speaker 1: eye contact. I just know this is a person will

747
00:43:51,480 --> 00:43:56,040
Speaker 1: play with me. Yeah. So we have squeakers, we have bubbles,

748
00:43:56,440 --> 00:44:00,440
Speaker 1: we have magic tricks. We have uh so I do

749
00:44:00,480 --> 00:44:04,120
Speaker 1: a bunch of different bubble tricks and uh we also

750
00:44:04,520 --> 00:44:09,720
Speaker 1: have jugglers. I love jokes. I love terrible jokes. They're

751
00:44:09,800 --> 00:44:16,879
Speaker 1: my favorite. Good puns, Oh lovely, we'll play a pun

752
00:44:16,880 --> 00:44:19,879
Speaker 1: game once these mics are off, because it's not it's

753
00:44:19,880 --> 00:44:24,520
Speaker 1: not entirely family friendly. Um, but yeah, we'll do things

754
00:44:24,600 --> 00:44:29,479
Speaker 1: like it's something called a French pass with these these

755
00:44:29,520 --> 00:44:31,960
Speaker 1: noses where you know, you put it on your finger

756
00:44:32,080 --> 00:44:34,279
Speaker 1: and then you're getting the kid to look at it,

757
00:44:34,320 --> 00:44:37,360
Speaker 1: and then you're making it disappear, right, And then I

758
00:44:37,560 --> 00:44:39,279
Speaker 1: tossed it over to her and then oh, she's got

759
00:44:39,320 --> 00:44:42,560
Speaker 1: it in her pocket, you know, and then then I

760
00:44:42,600 --> 00:44:49,120
Speaker 1: caught it back out and you know, I had a moment,

761
00:44:50,400 --> 00:44:52,960
Speaker 1: what does happen? What does happen? Exactly where to go?

762
00:44:53,920 --> 00:44:56,520
Speaker 1: So it's about learning how to palm things or put

763
00:44:56,560 --> 00:44:59,439
Speaker 1: things in your pockets and uh, and then of course

764
00:44:59,480 --> 00:45:03,279
Speaker 1: just having these stupid funny things like I have these

765
00:45:03,280 --> 00:45:06,280
Speaker 1: tiny hands and I love to put on these things.

766
00:45:09,040 --> 00:45:11,120
Speaker 1: But then you give tiny half haf you go tana

767
00:45:11,200 --> 00:45:15,680
Speaker 1: half five, tiny half a small round of applause. Or

768
00:45:15,760 --> 00:45:18,440
Speaker 1: we have ukuleles and I can strom the ukulele with

769
00:45:18,480 --> 00:45:21,560
Speaker 1: one entire hand, and I say that that's classical. We

770
00:45:21,640 --> 00:45:23,680
Speaker 1: do a lot of music, a lot of some of

771
00:45:23,880 --> 00:45:28,040
Speaker 1: the people on our team are really amazing musicians, and

772
00:45:28,120 --> 00:45:31,840
Speaker 1: everybody on our team can really sang. Yeah, really sang.

773
00:45:32,520 --> 00:45:34,120
Speaker 1: I was gonna say, you've been doing some good singing,

774
00:45:34,280 --> 00:45:36,920
Speaker 1: which I appreciate because I do that often just on

775
00:45:36,920 --> 00:45:39,120
Speaker 1: our podcast. I'll just randomly sing things out and everybody

776
00:45:39,160 --> 00:45:41,279
Speaker 1: looks at me funny and then tells me to stop

777
00:45:41,280 --> 00:45:43,480
Speaker 1: because of copyright stuff. You know what, I don't let

778
00:45:43,520 --> 00:45:45,759
Speaker 1: them demm your shine. Thank you say that it's it's

779
00:45:45,760 --> 00:45:48,239
Speaker 1: say that it's covered under parody. Yeah, don't hide your

780
00:45:48,320 --> 00:45:50,520
Speaker 1: light under a busch. Know the words of these songs,

781
00:45:50,560 --> 00:45:52,960
Speaker 1: I'm just humming it. Just keep it under thirty seconds,

782
00:45:52,960 --> 00:45:54,680
Speaker 1: and you're right, And I'm making up words to it

783
00:45:54,680 --> 00:45:57,800
Speaker 1: because I forgot the actual lyrics exactly that parody. Guys,

784
00:45:59,520 --> 00:46:01,960
Speaker 1: are these things that you knew or that you picked

785
00:46:02,040 --> 00:46:05,440
Speaker 1: up when you got into this, like palming and magic

786
00:46:05,440 --> 00:46:09,200
Speaker 1: tricks exchange. Yeah, And it all depends on the on

787
00:46:09,239 --> 00:46:11,239
Speaker 1: the clown and what your background is. I mean, some

788
00:46:11,320 --> 00:46:16,920
Speaker 1: of our clowns primary backgrounds are mime or juggling or

789
00:46:17,760 --> 00:46:21,680
Speaker 1: puppetry or improv or acting. But I mean not everybody

790
00:46:21,719 --> 00:46:24,839
Speaker 1: as a comes from an acting background. It's really quite

791
00:46:24,880 --> 00:46:28,000
Speaker 1: a variety. So some people came in with you know,

792
00:46:28,120 --> 00:46:30,440
Speaker 1: magic out the wazoo, and then that was great for

793
00:46:30,480 --> 00:46:34,560
Speaker 1: everybody because uh you know Bill Smith, um doctor not right,

794
00:46:35,120 --> 00:46:38,520
Speaker 1: who's um not on our team anymore. Unfortunately he lives

795
00:46:38,520 --> 00:46:42,480
Speaker 1: in Tennessee also and was making the drive and extrem

796
00:46:43,600 --> 00:46:47,319
Speaker 1: from I mean from Gatlin perk Uh yeah, but he's

797
00:46:47,320 --> 00:46:50,680
Speaker 1: an amazing magician and was very generous about sharing his

798
00:46:50,800 --> 00:46:54,880
Speaker 1: skills and taught us all uh French drop um and

799
00:46:54,960 --> 00:46:56,480
Speaker 1: if there was anything else you wanted to learn, can

800
00:46:56,560 --> 00:47:00,359
Speaker 1: teach you a card force or uh you know, help

801
00:47:00,400 --> 00:47:04,640
Speaker 1: you improve whatever whatever your dumb magic you were working on.

802
00:47:05,360 --> 00:47:10,160
Speaker 1: And u uh Tom Pierce is h a brilliant mime

803
00:47:10,520 --> 00:47:13,200
Speaker 1: and him and Tim Satimi, who's another one of our clowns,

804
00:47:13,360 --> 00:47:16,920
Speaker 1: they're both wonderful mimes, and so they've helped work us,

805
00:47:17,239 --> 00:47:21,839
Speaker 1: you know, when we have are rehearsals and stuff, they'll

806
00:47:21,880 --> 00:47:24,520
Speaker 1: help teach us how to do certain mind things. Because

807
00:47:24,760 --> 00:47:27,400
Speaker 1: one of the great things about this is that you

808
00:47:27,440 --> 00:47:29,440
Speaker 1: are working with someone who has a skill set that

809
00:47:29,480 --> 00:47:32,080
Speaker 1: you don't have, and you are finding ways to create

810
00:47:32,200 --> 00:47:36,480
Speaker 1: bits with them, and you're finding ways to make yourself

811
00:47:36,520 --> 00:47:39,799
Speaker 1: look stupid and make them look wonderful, or making them

812
00:47:39,800 --> 00:47:42,360
Speaker 1: look stupid and make you look wonderful, or get the

813
00:47:42,440 --> 00:47:44,799
Speaker 1: kid on their side, or get the kid on your side,

814
00:47:44,880 --> 00:47:47,600
Speaker 1: or get the kid to hate both of you have

815
00:47:47,640 --> 00:47:51,759
Speaker 1: fun continually kicking you out of the room. You know.

816
00:47:51,880 --> 00:47:54,799
Speaker 1: There there's just there's a million different ways to try

817
00:47:54,800 --> 00:47:59,600
Speaker 1: to find ways to blend all of these different skill sets.

818
00:48:00,480 --> 00:48:05,120
Speaker 1: Um Ron Anglin is like a master. There's just Chinese

819
00:48:05,200 --> 00:48:09,560
Speaker 1: yo yo, which is also called the diablo. He it's

820
00:48:09,600 --> 00:48:12,839
Speaker 1: it's insane because it looks like it's going to hit you,

821
00:48:13,600 --> 00:48:16,359
Speaker 1: and it's it's all swinging this thing around and then

822
00:48:16,360 --> 00:48:18,239
Speaker 1: he can make it bounce on it and do all

823
00:48:18,280 --> 00:48:22,280
Speaker 1: those crazy things and and this this is a huge

824
00:48:22,719 --> 00:48:24,040
Speaker 1: you know, it takes up a lot of space, but

825
00:48:24,080 --> 00:48:26,480
Speaker 1: he'll go into a kid's room and do and do

826
00:48:26,520 --> 00:48:29,160
Speaker 1: it because he's got such great control. So it's quite

827
00:48:29,719 --> 00:48:35,960
Speaker 1: impressor yeah, he's just like and that adds an element

828
00:48:36,000 --> 00:48:39,160
Speaker 1: of danger to a room, which is also exciting, you know,

829
00:48:39,239 --> 00:48:42,160
Speaker 1: but he's a professional, so it's it's been one of

830
00:48:42,160 --> 00:48:47,239
Speaker 1: those uh wonderful joys too. You're you're getting to know

831
00:48:47,360 --> 00:48:51,839
Speaker 1: all of these different partners and uh share jokes and

832
00:48:52,200 --> 00:48:55,480
Speaker 1: share tricks and come up with different things. One of

833
00:48:55,520 --> 00:48:58,839
Speaker 1: my things lately has been, UM, I really love to

834
00:48:58,840 --> 00:49:03,719
Speaker 1: to draw um on the paper towels um, and then

835
00:49:03,760 --> 00:49:05,719
Speaker 1: maybe I'll tear it up and then then they have

836
00:49:05,760 --> 00:49:08,960
Speaker 1: a puzzle. Or I'll make a list that keeps getting

837
00:49:09,000 --> 00:49:11,320
Speaker 1: longer because the paper to spend, paper towel dispense or

838
00:49:11,400 --> 00:49:14,799
Speaker 1: keeps getting longer. So we have to keep writing a list, like,

839
00:49:14,920 --> 00:49:17,200
Speaker 1: you know, advice on how to be a cool teenager,

840
00:49:17,520 --> 00:49:19,719
Speaker 1: or things I'm going to do once I leave here,

841
00:49:20,120 --> 00:49:22,360
Speaker 1: or ways I could improve my outfit. I got that

842
00:49:22,440 --> 00:49:27,719
Speaker 1: from one kid. My kid was like, I don't know,

843
00:49:27,800 --> 00:49:30,680
Speaker 1: you don't really look like a clown. And I was like, okay, cool,

844
00:49:30,800 --> 00:49:32,560
Speaker 1: So what do I need to do? And they essentially

845
00:49:32,560 --> 00:49:38,560
Speaker 1: described Ronald, but it was like bit by bit, like

846
00:49:38,920 --> 00:49:46,520
Speaker 1: red hair, I need to be a man. I love

847
00:49:46,680 --> 00:49:49,360
Speaker 1: using the elements that are in the hospital room like

848
00:49:49,400 --> 00:49:51,520
Speaker 1: that though, like using the paper towels or the gloves

849
00:49:51,560 --> 00:49:54,279
Speaker 1: and stuff like that, And that's part of we try

850
00:49:54,320 --> 00:49:55,560
Speaker 1: to keep that in the back of our minds also

851
00:49:55,560 --> 00:49:59,080
Speaker 1: because it's part of demystifying the hospital environment for the kids.

852
00:49:59,080 --> 00:50:01,480
Speaker 1: So if we can turn this thing like the glove

853
00:50:01,640 --> 00:50:04,400
Speaker 1: that they're used to having just be put on for

854
00:50:04,480 --> 00:50:07,200
Speaker 1: something scary to happen, or for something uncomfortable to happen.

855
00:50:07,280 --> 00:50:09,120
Speaker 1: If we can turn that into a fish and blow

856
00:50:09,120 --> 00:50:11,879
Speaker 1: bubbles and if the fish went through, then maybe that'll

857
00:50:11,920 --> 00:50:15,960
Speaker 1: be more fun. I was working with Um, one of

858
00:50:15,960 --> 00:50:19,480
Speaker 1: our new clowns, uh Dr Googy, the other day, and

859
00:50:19,520 --> 00:50:23,839
Speaker 1: we were on oncology and there was a woman, Um,

860
00:50:23,960 --> 00:50:27,480
Speaker 1: she was crying. It was a mom or grandmother. She

861
00:50:27,560 --> 00:50:31,040
Speaker 1: was crying really hard and talking very quickly into her

862
00:50:31,040 --> 00:50:33,400
Speaker 1: phone in the hall, and she was speaking Spanish, so

863
00:50:33,480 --> 00:50:35,360
Speaker 1: we didn't know exactly what she was saying, which just

864
00:50:35,400 --> 00:50:36,759
Speaker 1: had a little bit of an idea of what she

865
00:50:36,800 --> 00:50:40,880
Speaker 1: was saying. And in oncology, you know, you guys have

866
00:50:41,040 --> 00:50:45,800
Speaker 1: a little bit of an idea, right Um, So uh

867
00:50:45,920 --> 00:50:50,719
Speaker 1: Googy went and took a paper towel and folded it

868
00:50:51,520 --> 00:50:54,319
Speaker 1: very beautifully into a paper rose, and we didn't say

869
00:50:54,320 --> 00:50:57,520
Speaker 1: anything to her or anything. He just walked by and

870
00:50:57,600 --> 00:51:00,360
Speaker 1: handed her this rose and and we walked on. And

871
00:51:00,400 --> 00:51:03,319
Speaker 1: you know, sometimes that's the right kind of moment to

872
00:51:03,360 --> 00:51:07,279
Speaker 1: provide for somebody. And then the next room we encountered

873
00:51:07,800 --> 00:51:10,560
Speaker 1: was this boy about four or five years old, and

874
00:51:10,560 --> 00:51:12,600
Speaker 1: we knocked on the door and he opened it, and

875
00:51:12,600 --> 00:51:14,759
Speaker 1: then he hid behind the door and we looked for

876
00:51:14,840 --> 00:51:16,719
Speaker 1: him a little bit, and then he popped out and

877
00:51:16,840 --> 00:51:19,880
Speaker 1: was like ah, and we were like, oh, goad and

878
00:51:20,280 --> 00:51:22,040
Speaker 1: and then we just played this for like a while,

879
00:51:22,080 --> 00:51:23,960
Speaker 1: and he kept hiding behind the door and then popping

880
00:51:23,960 --> 00:51:26,920
Speaker 1: out and we would get scared, and eventually he scared

881
00:51:26,960 --> 00:51:29,000
Speaker 1: us enough that we ran off all the way down

882
00:51:29,040 --> 00:51:31,520
Speaker 1: the hall and into a whole another area of the hospital,

883
00:51:31,760 --> 00:51:33,719
Speaker 1: and a few minutes later, a nurse came running to

884
00:51:33,800 --> 00:51:36,359
Speaker 1: us and she was like, Hey, did you go see

885
00:51:36,480 --> 00:51:38,959
Speaker 1: room whatever it was? And we're like, um, I think

886
00:51:39,000 --> 00:51:40,680
Speaker 1: we did. And she's like, I think maybe he wasn't

887
00:51:40,680 --> 00:51:42,680
Speaker 1: in the room or something, because they just asked for

888
00:51:42,680 --> 00:51:45,480
Speaker 1: you guys to come come there. And we were like, okay, well,

889
00:51:45,520 --> 00:51:47,160
Speaker 1: maybe we had the wrong room or something. I don't know.

890
00:51:47,560 --> 00:51:50,239
Speaker 1: So we went back there and we're about to knock

891
00:51:50,239 --> 00:51:51,799
Speaker 1: on the door and we looked at each other. We're like, oh,

892
00:51:51,880 --> 00:51:54,120
Speaker 1: this is this is the kid that chased us all

893
00:51:54,120 --> 00:51:56,279
Speaker 1: the way down the hall. So and he opens the

894
00:51:56,280 --> 00:52:00,759
Speaker 1: door and he says, you'll get y'all what's in here?

895
00:52:02,719 --> 00:52:06,680
Speaker 1: So we looked at each other. We went okay, we

896
00:52:06,719 --> 00:52:09,680
Speaker 1: walked to the doorway, we lifted up our coats and

897
00:52:09,719 --> 00:52:12,880
Speaker 1: we just stuck our butts into the room and then

898
00:52:12,920 --> 00:52:16,040
Speaker 1: we ran off. And I'm like, I just like, how

899
00:52:16,080 --> 00:52:20,479
Speaker 1: did we go from like this beautiful rose to stick

900
00:52:20,480 --> 00:52:23,920
Speaker 1: in our butts kids? From what is this job? It's

901
00:52:23,960 --> 00:52:28,480
Speaker 1: so amazing, that's fantastic. We have just a little bit

902
00:52:28,480 --> 00:52:31,560
Speaker 1: more for you listeners, but first one more quick break

903
00:52:31,600 --> 00:52:47,360
Speaker 1: for word from our sponsor. Then we're back. Thank you sponsor.

904
00:52:47,800 --> 00:52:53,160
Speaker 1: Let's get back to the interview. Kids are honest and

905
00:52:53,280 --> 00:52:58,800
Speaker 1: literal and strange in ways that I never really knew.

906
00:53:00,000 --> 00:53:03,000
Speaker 1: Really did this job, man, there are some My kids

907
00:53:03,040 --> 00:53:08,560
Speaker 1: are the weirdest, really cute. The weird kids are my favorites. Yeah,

908
00:53:08,560 --> 00:53:11,880
Speaker 1: there's I mean, and there's there are times where you have, uh,

909
00:53:12,400 --> 00:53:14,080
Speaker 1: you have times where you've got to just kind of

910
00:53:14,120 --> 00:53:16,879
Speaker 1: step out and because of maybe things that are going

911
00:53:16,880 --> 00:53:19,879
Speaker 1: on in our personal lives, like uh, like my father

912
00:53:20,000 --> 00:53:22,880
Speaker 1: was really sick at one point, and you know, I

913
00:53:22,920 --> 00:53:24,759
Speaker 1: was still working in the hospital while he was in

914
00:53:24,800 --> 00:53:27,319
Speaker 1: the hospital and that kind of thing, and so every

915
00:53:27,320 --> 00:53:28,480
Speaker 1: now and then I just had to be like, just

916
00:53:28,600 --> 00:53:32,440
Speaker 1: need a second, okay, And then you keep going um,

917
00:53:32,480 --> 00:53:36,400
Speaker 1: because you're there for the kids, UM, and that allows

918
00:53:36,400 --> 00:53:39,839
Speaker 1: you to have even more empathy and compassion for what

919
00:53:39,920 --> 00:53:43,920
Speaker 1: these families are going through sleeping in these hospital rooms,

920
00:53:44,640 --> 00:53:48,520
Speaker 1: you know, UM living there essentially uh. And there are

921
00:53:48,600 --> 00:53:51,600
Speaker 1: kids that come to Choa from all over the world,

922
00:53:53,040 --> 00:53:57,160
Speaker 1: so you're dealing with different customs. There are some people

923
00:53:57,200 --> 00:54:00,400
Speaker 1: that don't know that they're allowed to use the bathroom

924
00:54:00,440 --> 00:54:04,560
Speaker 1: inside the room. You know. It's just like there's different culture.

925
00:54:04,880 --> 00:54:10,000
Speaker 1: Cultural differences, are different cultures from within Georgia. You know,

926
00:54:10,120 --> 00:54:14,240
Speaker 1: you have people coming down uh in and they're getting

927
00:54:14,239 --> 00:54:17,280
Speaker 1: all settled in, you know, and there's a whole family,

928
00:54:17,920 --> 00:54:23,200
Speaker 1: like there's mom, dad, multiple kids, Grandma, grandpa, and everybody's

929
00:54:23,239 --> 00:54:26,160
Speaker 1: posting up for this kid. Then there are some kids

930
00:54:26,200 --> 00:54:30,520
Speaker 1: who don't have anyone right or their parents are working

931
00:54:31,280 --> 00:54:34,360
Speaker 1: so that they can pay these bills. And we're the

932
00:54:34,360 --> 00:54:37,080
Speaker 1: ones who are able to go in there and break

933
00:54:37,080 --> 00:54:38,799
Speaker 1: it up a little bit, just break up the time

934
00:54:39,480 --> 00:54:42,600
Speaker 1: for kids who get checked in and then are left there. Yep,

935
00:54:42,920 --> 00:54:45,240
Speaker 1: I mean it happened. Had no idea that that happened

936
00:54:45,320 --> 00:54:49,080
Speaker 1: until like, yeah, I mean what Yeah, It's usually kids

937
00:54:49,080 --> 00:54:54,280
Speaker 1: who have a lot of UM technological dependence on things

938
00:54:54,400 --> 00:55:01,680
Speaker 1: like tracks or um complex medical stuff, and the family

939
00:55:01,760 --> 00:55:04,360
Speaker 1: is just like I can't handle it. They can't handle it,

940
00:55:04,400 --> 00:55:06,959
Speaker 1: and they're like, well, here at a place where people

941
00:55:07,000 --> 00:55:08,360
Speaker 1: will take care of you. And then the children are

942
00:55:08,400 --> 00:55:11,040
Speaker 1: there for months and months and months and the nurses

943
00:55:11,080 --> 00:55:14,000
Speaker 1: are trying to help them get into foster care. And

944
00:55:15,200 --> 00:55:18,200
Speaker 1: it's a you learn about a lot of different realities.

945
00:55:19,120 --> 00:55:21,719
Speaker 1: So with that, because I'm actually a social worker, and

946
00:55:21,719 --> 00:55:24,320
Speaker 1: one of the things that I always ask, because obviously

947
00:55:24,400 --> 00:55:27,520
Speaker 1: this field is very, very emotionally taxing and impacting, how

948
00:55:27,560 --> 00:55:29,560
Speaker 1: do you care for yourselves like you were saying you

949
00:55:29,600 --> 00:55:32,200
Speaker 1: were having a moment because of the close relation with

950
00:55:32,239 --> 00:55:35,080
Speaker 1: the father, how do you actually take time and care

951
00:55:35,120 --> 00:55:40,839
Speaker 1: for yourself? Well, um, I think we should all be

952
00:55:40,840 --> 00:55:43,160
Speaker 1: better at it than we are, but we do as

953
00:55:43,200 --> 00:55:46,440
Speaker 1: an organization and as a team, we do work on that.

954
00:55:46,480 --> 00:55:50,160
Speaker 1: We work with UH with a therapist, with a psychiatrist

955
00:55:50,200 --> 00:55:53,800
Speaker 1: at each of our rehearsals, and we have a group therapy.

956
00:55:54,000 --> 00:55:57,120
Speaker 1: Should we call emotional hygiene. It's another type of hygiene,

957
00:55:57,120 --> 00:56:02,960
Speaker 1: another type. Don't just wash your hands, wash your brain. Um.

958
00:56:03,000 --> 00:56:05,279
Speaker 1: And that's another one of the many, many reasons that

959
00:56:05,320 --> 00:56:08,239
Speaker 1: we work in pairs always a lot of that is

960
00:56:08,280 --> 00:56:11,360
Speaker 1: about artistry and safety as well, but it's also about

961
00:56:12,080 --> 00:56:15,560
Speaker 1: um having a shared experience with somebody if you need

962
00:56:15,600 --> 00:56:19,240
Speaker 1: to be able to talk about it later. We also

963
00:56:20,239 --> 00:56:22,719
Speaker 1: spend thirty minutes at the beginning of each day while

964
00:56:22,719 --> 00:56:27,880
Speaker 1: we're getting in costume and mentally preparing for performance, checking

965
00:56:27,880 --> 00:56:30,359
Speaker 1: in with a partner about where they are emotionally and

966
00:56:30,440 --> 00:56:33,440
Speaker 1: the most recent experiences they've had in the hospital. And

967
00:56:33,480 --> 00:56:35,360
Speaker 1: at the end of the day there's another thirty minutes

968
00:56:35,440 --> 00:56:40,120
Speaker 1: to um d clown and debrief emotionally about the day.

969
00:56:40,160 --> 00:56:43,640
Speaker 1: And everybody's always also open to receiving calls from each

970
00:56:43,640 --> 00:56:45,360
Speaker 1: other if you feel like you need to call somebody

971
00:56:46,000 --> 00:56:48,640
Speaker 1: to talk about something weird, because I know, like my spouse,

972
00:56:48,840 --> 00:56:52,360
Speaker 1: my husband doesn't want to hear about about it, you know.

973
00:56:52,719 --> 00:56:55,360
Speaker 1: So some spouses are great about it, but it's it's like,

974
00:56:55,400 --> 00:56:57,359
Speaker 1: it's very weird to talk to somebody about it who

975
00:56:57,400 --> 00:57:01,240
Speaker 1: doesn't have this, you know, if they don't want to share, right, Yeah,

976
00:57:01,239 --> 00:57:04,080
Speaker 1: So we try to help each other. It's a strange thing,

977
00:57:04,960 --> 00:57:13,240
Speaker 1: and theoretically we all do yoga and meditated and chicken

978
00:57:13,280 --> 00:57:21,680
Speaker 1: wings and drink beer to do it. Yes, were and

979
00:57:21,880 --> 00:57:25,080
Speaker 1: why I like that. I think we're all very we're

980
00:57:25,160 --> 00:57:29,200
Speaker 1: very lucky, um, and that we because of the type

981
00:57:29,200 --> 00:57:32,560
Speaker 1: of work we do, we're all okay with being vulnerable

982
00:57:32,600 --> 00:57:36,720
Speaker 1: with each other. And that's a whole essence of Clown's vulnerability.

983
00:57:37,360 --> 00:57:39,440
Speaker 1: We're able to look at something, you know, look at

984
00:57:39,440 --> 00:57:43,480
Speaker 1: this and be like, you know, this really messed me up, UM,

985
00:57:43,520 --> 00:57:46,360
Speaker 1: and I need I need to just say these words

986
00:57:46,400 --> 00:57:50,560
Speaker 1: out loud about what this is, you know. And you know,

987
00:57:50,680 --> 00:57:58,200
Speaker 1: we do develop relationships with kids long term, UM, who

988
00:57:58,240 --> 00:58:01,240
Speaker 1: are waiting for transplants, or or who are waiting to

989
00:58:01,360 --> 00:58:04,600
Speaker 1: be put into foster care, or who are going through

990
00:58:04,640 --> 00:58:09,480
Speaker 1: cancer treatments, and sometimes we lose them, right, and that

991
00:58:09,640 --> 00:58:15,320
Speaker 1: is very hard, UM, because I mean, you know, we're

992
00:58:15,360 --> 00:58:17,200
Speaker 1: there to be silly and goofy, but you also know

993
00:58:17,240 --> 00:58:19,120
Speaker 1: that if you're walking into a hospital, you're also going

994
00:58:19,160 --> 00:58:23,800
Speaker 1: to be dealing with mortality. UM. So you just try

995
00:58:23,840 --> 00:58:27,720
Speaker 1: to do the best that you can and remember those

996
00:58:27,800 --> 00:58:31,160
Speaker 1: kids who have moved on. And some two kids are

997
00:58:31,200 --> 00:58:34,520
Speaker 1: so inspiring, like they are so resilient, and it's just

998
00:58:34,920 --> 00:58:39,760
Speaker 1: they're ridiculouting, They're ridiculous, They're wonderful. They're just like this kid,

999
00:58:40,200 --> 00:58:44,880
Speaker 1: there's one little spitfire of a girl who like, um,

1000
00:58:44,920 --> 00:58:47,040
Speaker 1: like English is in her first language. But she's been

1001
00:58:47,080 --> 00:58:50,080
Speaker 1: like in and out of all of these uh different

1002
00:58:50,120 --> 00:58:52,800
Speaker 1: treatments and stuff. And I see her in one hospital,

1003
00:58:52,880 --> 00:58:54,640
Speaker 1: then I see her in another hospital, then I see

1004
00:58:54,640 --> 00:58:56,600
Speaker 1: her in day surgery and all this kind of stuff.

1005
00:58:56,800 --> 00:59:00,200
Speaker 1: And she will let you know what she will wants.

1006
00:59:01,360 --> 00:59:03,240
Speaker 1: She wants, they get to know you. They learned that

1007
00:59:03,240 --> 00:59:06,480
Speaker 1: they can boss you around, and that's awesome. She'll look

1008
00:59:06,480 --> 00:59:10,480
Speaker 1: at you and she'll go show me a trick and

1009
00:59:10,520 --> 00:59:12,919
Speaker 1: I'm like, what about this one. I've already seen that one,

1010
00:59:14,000 --> 00:59:15,600
Speaker 1: Just like you go over here, you go over there,

1011
00:59:15,640 --> 00:59:17,440
Speaker 1: you go over here, what's in your pocket? And she

1012
00:59:17,480 --> 00:59:21,200
Speaker 1: comes up and she's like, face first into your indier jacket.

1013
00:59:21,320 --> 00:59:23,760
Speaker 1: I carry a Fannie pack now, and she's like, what's

1014
00:59:23,800 --> 00:59:28,000
Speaker 1: in this? Open it? Open it. She'll start on sipping

1015
00:59:28,000 --> 00:59:30,880
Speaker 1: and I'm like, what you know, But of course it's

1016
00:59:30,880 --> 00:59:34,080
Speaker 1: full of really stupid stuff. So that's perfectly everything that

1017
00:59:34,160 --> 00:59:37,080
Speaker 1: she wants. Yeah, but she's you know, like the last

1018
00:59:37,080 --> 00:59:39,200
Speaker 1: time that I saw her. One of my gags that

1019
00:59:39,240 --> 00:59:42,120
Speaker 1: I like to do is they have these big it's

1020
00:59:42,280 --> 00:59:46,280
Speaker 1: it's like marketing material that Shoa has that look like

1021
00:59:46,320 --> 00:59:49,600
Speaker 1: giant phones, and so I always carry them with me

1022
00:59:49,640 --> 00:59:53,920
Speaker 1: and I'm like, hey, what's up, and so so or

1023
00:59:53,960 --> 00:59:57,160
Speaker 1: I pretend to I can't unlock the screen because it's paper,

1024
00:59:57,320 --> 01:00:00,400
Speaker 1: and so I have to give it to a teenager. Um,

1025
01:00:00,440 --> 01:00:05,080
Speaker 1: you know, it's paper thin, unbreakable. Uh, So I gave this. Uh.

1026
01:00:05,080 --> 01:00:08,160
Speaker 1: I gave one to her, and then I had one

1027
01:00:08,920 --> 01:00:11,080
Speaker 1: and we were talking to each other and like, hey,

1028
01:00:11,120 --> 01:00:13,600
Speaker 1: how you doing. I'm fine, doing all right, And she

1029
01:00:13,720 --> 01:00:16,880
Speaker 1: grabs my hand and while her mother is talking to

1030
01:00:16,920 --> 01:00:19,760
Speaker 1: a social worker, she and I walk up and down

1031
01:00:20,120 --> 01:00:23,800
Speaker 1: the hall, just having a conversation, not looking at each other,

1032
01:00:24,400 --> 01:00:27,960
Speaker 1: but holding each other's hand. And her hand is so tiny,

1033
01:00:28,240 --> 01:00:32,960
Speaker 1: and she's been through so much crap, but she still

1034
01:00:33,160 --> 01:00:37,120
Speaker 1: is going to boss me around, and she still wants

1035
01:00:37,120 --> 01:00:40,120
Speaker 1: to have this imagination thing. So I say, you take

1036
01:00:40,160 --> 01:00:41,960
Speaker 1: that one home with you and then you can call

1037
01:00:42,000 --> 01:00:44,760
Speaker 1: me on the phone when you want, you know. So

1038
01:00:44,840 --> 01:00:47,840
Speaker 1: it's I don't know, it's awesome, Like I don't want

1039
01:00:47,840 --> 01:00:49,600
Speaker 1: to I still don't want to have kids, but I

1040
01:00:49,640 --> 01:00:51,960
Speaker 1: consider all the kids at the hospital to be my kids.

1041
01:00:52,400 --> 01:00:55,120
Speaker 1: I understand you completely. Yeah, they're so awesome. We had

1042
01:00:55,160 --> 01:00:57,439
Speaker 1: there was this time, um, when Gina and I we

1043
01:00:57,440 --> 01:01:01,320
Speaker 1: were going to uh into a waiting area or the playroom.

1044
01:01:01,320 --> 01:01:03,560
Speaker 1: I guess in rehab. Rehab is one of the places

1045
01:01:03,600 --> 01:01:05,959
Speaker 1: that I feel like we can really do a lot

1046
01:01:06,000 --> 01:01:08,439
Speaker 1: of a lot of good. It's really tough, but it's

1047
01:01:08,560 --> 01:01:11,200
Speaker 1: we're very grateful to be there. Yeah. Uh. And we

1048
01:01:11,200 --> 01:01:13,040
Speaker 1: were going in there and there was a girl who

1049
01:01:13,120 --> 01:01:16,640
Speaker 1: was on a stand up um wheelchair and she was

1050
01:01:16,720 --> 01:01:19,400
Speaker 1: painting at this table. She was probably about three, and

1051
01:01:19,440 --> 01:01:22,120
Speaker 1: another girl sitting on the floor who was also probably

1052
01:01:22,160 --> 01:01:25,040
Speaker 1: about three, and she was playing with something. She had

1053
01:01:25,040 --> 01:01:27,360
Speaker 1: something between uh flight between her legs. She was playing

1054
01:01:27,400 --> 01:01:30,880
Speaker 1: with it and Uh. I looked at her sleeve, like

1055
01:01:30,920 --> 01:01:33,240
Speaker 1: her right sleeve, and it was empty. And I was like, Okay,

1056
01:01:33,440 --> 01:01:35,040
Speaker 1: I didn't know if she was if it was she

1057
01:01:35,080 --> 01:01:37,920
Speaker 1: had her arms strapped in for healing purposes or something,

1058
01:01:38,000 --> 01:01:40,600
Speaker 1: or if she didn't have an arm. Um. And I

1059
01:01:40,600 --> 01:01:43,200
Speaker 1: saw Gina getting ready to blow some bubbles, which is

1060
01:01:43,200 --> 01:01:45,840
Speaker 1: a lot of times our first entree for some for kids,

1061
01:01:46,320 --> 01:01:49,439
Speaker 1: and uh, and I looked more closely at this little

1062
01:01:49,440 --> 01:01:51,760
Speaker 1: girl on the floor and she had shifted a little bit,

1063
01:01:52,280 --> 01:01:55,800
Speaker 1: and uh, she didn't have an arm on the left

1064
01:01:55,840 --> 01:01:58,840
Speaker 1: side either, and her arms weren't weren't strapped to hers,

1065
01:01:58,920 --> 01:02:01,840
Speaker 1: She wasn't didn't of any braces or anything like that.

1066
01:02:01,880 --> 01:02:05,280
Speaker 1: She just didn't have arms. And I had this moment

1067
01:02:05,280 --> 01:02:09,760
Speaker 1: where I was like, oh, man, are we about to

1068
01:02:09,960 --> 01:02:12,560
Speaker 1: blow some bubbles for a little girl with no arms

1069
01:02:12,560 --> 01:02:16,200
Speaker 1: who wasn't gonna be able to, you know, fingerpop. But

1070
01:02:16,280 --> 01:02:18,640
Speaker 1: I was like, well, here we go. So I kept

1071
01:02:18,640 --> 01:02:21,760
Speaker 1: playing ukulele and Gina got out her bubbles and um.

1072
01:02:21,800 --> 01:02:24,920
Speaker 1: The little girl who was painting threw down her brushes

1073
01:02:24,960 --> 01:02:27,440
Speaker 1: and she lit up. She had both a finger on

1074
01:02:27,480 --> 01:02:31,200
Speaker 1: each hand point her fingers just pud popping those bubbles.

1075
01:02:31,200 --> 01:02:33,400
Speaker 1: She couldn't be happier. And the little girl on the

1076
01:02:33,400 --> 01:02:35,760
Speaker 1: floor she looked up, big smile on her face and

1077
01:02:35,800 --> 01:02:39,400
Speaker 1: just took her foot and went you and just kicked

1078
01:02:39,440 --> 01:02:42,560
Speaker 1: the shout of those bos, you know. And it was

1079
01:02:42,640 --> 01:02:46,280
Speaker 1: just this amazing moment. And we walked out of there

1080
01:02:46,360 --> 01:02:50,640
Speaker 1: and Gina was like, adaptability, man, it's just like wow.

1081
01:02:50,760 --> 01:02:52,520
Speaker 1: I mean, that's the kind of thing where those kids

1082
01:02:52,600 --> 01:02:57,280
Speaker 1: just you're like, you are inspiring. She had like one

1083
01:02:57,320 --> 01:03:00,200
Speaker 1: of those little fake car consoles in front of her

1084
01:03:00,240 --> 01:03:02,040
Speaker 1: with like the wheel, and I saw that she was

1085
01:03:02,560 --> 01:03:04,280
Speaker 1: hitting the buttons and kind of turn her the wheel

1086
01:03:04,280 --> 01:03:09,600
Speaker 1: a little bit. As an she was amazing, she was flexible,

1087
01:03:09,640 --> 01:03:13,560
Speaker 1: she was accurate, and she blew my as mine and

1088
01:03:13,600 --> 01:03:18,760
Speaker 1: it was wonderful already she had those and like that. Yeah,

1089
01:03:18,920 --> 01:03:22,400
Speaker 1: but it's you know, if if you meet people where

1090
01:03:22,400 --> 01:03:26,080
Speaker 1: they are, uh, and you go in there ready to

1091
01:03:26,640 --> 01:03:29,960
Speaker 1: not judge and not make anything weird and don't assume.

1092
01:03:30,560 --> 01:03:35,120
Speaker 1: I'm glad we didn't assume. So coming back, obviously we

1093
01:03:35,200 --> 01:03:38,560
Speaker 1: are stuff. I'll never told you very female focus or

1094
01:03:38,680 --> 01:03:41,760
Speaker 1: those who identify as female. And one of the ideas

1095
01:03:41,800 --> 01:03:44,920
Speaker 1: behind the clowns was we don't hear too many about

1096
01:03:44,960 --> 01:03:47,080
Speaker 1: female clowns in history, as in fact, we were talking

1097
01:03:47,120 --> 01:03:50,120
Speaker 1: about one list only listed off like maybe six out

1098
01:03:50,120 --> 01:03:56,040
Speaker 1: of one as that's famous. How does as women in clowning,

1099
01:03:56,320 --> 01:03:58,720
Speaker 1: what do you see some of the difficulties that you

1100
01:03:58,760 --> 01:04:00,560
Speaker 1: might have run into non to Colti is that you

1101
01:04:00,600 --> 01:04:03,200
Speaker 1: may have been into roadblocks that you are past or

1102
01:04:03,240 --> 01:04:08,600
Speaker 1: getting past or any of those situations. Um, well, I

1103
01:04:08,640 --> 01:04:11,600
Speaker 1: think we're fortunate on our team that we have several

1104
01:04:11,600 --> 01:04:14,480
Speaker 1: women now, which is great. It didn't always used to

1105
01:04:14,480 --> 01:04:18,160
Speaker 1: be that way, but um, we've got strong women. But

1106
01:04:18,200 --> 01:04:20,080
Speaker 1: I think you're always there's always a little bit in

1107
01:04:20,120 --> 01:04:23,400
Speaker 1: the back of your mind. Is because clowning is has

1108
01:04:23,480 --> 01:04:26,600
Speaker 1: such a relationship to comedy that you have to get

1109
01:04:26,640 --> 01:04:29,400
Speaker 1: over that hump of women aren't as funny as men,

1110
01:04:29,880 --> 01:04:34,760
Speaker 1: or like chicks aren't funny or whatever, which is so

1111
01:04:35,800 --> 01:04:41,720
Speaker 1: Gina is so funny. I'm hilarious, guys. I make myself

1112
01:04:41,800 --> 01:04:48,800
Speaker 1: least that's enough, right. Um. I not to uh put

1113
01:04:48,840 --> 01:04:52,800
Speaker 1: too much energy into the tutor, but one thing that

1114
01:04:53,200 --> 01:04:56,400
Speaker 1: I found when I first started my clown was really different.

1115
01:04:56,400 --> 01:05:00,560
Speaker 1: When I started, I was a lot younger guys, and uh,

1116
01:05:00,800 --> 01:05:03,400
Speaker 1: and I was a little bit more feminine and cute

1117
01:05:03,560 --> 01:05:06,520
Speaker 1: and um, you know, some of the stuff we could

1118
01:05:06,560 --> 01:05:08,919
Speaker 1: do back many many years ago, we don't do now.

1119
01:05:08,960 --> 01:05:12,160
Speaker 1: Like I would never flirt with anybody at the hospital,

1120
01:05:12,600 --> 01:05:15,000
Speaker 1: but back you know, back then it was the clowns

1121
01:05:15,000 --> 01:05:19,840
Speaker 1: could flirt and it was cute and funny. Anyway, I digress. Uh,

1122
01:05:19,880 --> 01:05:22,680
Speaker 1: But I carried a tutor because some of the guy

1123
01:05:22,720 --> 01:05:26,520
Speaker 1: clowns had tutors, and I thought toots were funny because

1124
01:05:26,520 --> 01:05:30,680
Speaker 1: they are because they're um. But the general gag for

1125
01:05:30,760 --> 01:05:33,760
Speaker 1: the mail clowns would be, you know, they dropped something

1126
01:05:33,760 --> 01:05:36,560
Speaker 1: on the floor and then um, they go to pick

1127
01:05:36,600 --> 01:05:38,640
Speaker 1: it up, and they too as they're picking it up,

1128
01:05:38,720 --> 01:05:41,520
Speaker 1: and I was like, I could do that, um, And

1129
01:05:41,680 --> 01:05:45,280
Speaker 1: you know, I tried it, but it wasn't It wasn't funny,

1130
01:05:45,400 --> 01:05:46,680
Speaker 1: Like I don't know what. I don't know if it

1131
01:05:46,720 --> 01:05:49,440
Speaker 1: was the fluffy skirt or the piggy tails or what

1132
01:05:49,480 --> 01:05:55,800
Speaker 1: it was. But it was almost like my audience was

1133
01:05:56,800 --> 01:06:03,160
Speaker 1: just two concerned that maybe that really happened, and they

1134
01:06:03,240 --> 01:06:06,920
Speaker 1: felt you were worried and embarrassed for the for the

1135
01:06:07,240 --> 01:06:11,480
Speaker 1: cute little girl clown who maybe just too did um.

1136
01:06:11,520 --> 01:06:13,920
Speaker 1: And I was like, come on, gods, was funny. So

1137
01:06:14,040 --> 01:06:15,720
Speaker 1: you know, I kept trying to figure it out and

1138
01:06:16,360 --> 01:06:19,400
Speaker 1: but it wasn't really working for me. And then I

1139
01:06:19,480 --> 01:06:21,880
Speaker 1: was walking with my partner back to the dressing room

1140
01:06:21,880 --> 01:06:26,720
Speaker 1: one day and there were some um uh some staff

1141
01:06:26,760 --> 01:06:28,880
Speaker 1: folks standing around and I went up to this guy

1142
01:06:28,920 --> 01:06:33,479
Speaker 1: and I was like, um, hey, man, ah, does does

1143
01:06:33,520 --> 01:06:38,520
Speaker 1: this sound real? H And there was this silence and

1144
01:06:38,560 --> 01:06:41,600
Speaker 1: then they all just cracked up laughing, and I was like, oh,

1145
01:06:41,680 --> 01:06:43,400
Speaker 1: because there are other ways to use I don't have

1146
01:06:43,440 --> 01:06:48,200
Speaker 1: to toote like my partner toots like right, and so

1147
01:06:48,280 --> 01:06:49,760
Speaker 1: then I found a whole bunch of different ways to

1148
01:06:49,840 --> 01:06:53,160
Speaker 1: use a tutor for various contests and even just like

1149
01:06:53,240 --> 01:06:56,479
Speaker 1: interrupting my partner constantly, And if I do it enough,

1150
01:06:56,560 --> 01:06:59,120
Speaker 1: then people are very clear that it was a joke.

1151
01:06:59,520 --> 01:07:02,720
Speaker 1: Got yeah, yeah yeah. So, uh, you know, for me,

1152
01:07:02,840 --> 01:07:05,480
Speaker 1: that's one one thing I guess I had to realize

1153
01:07:05,520 --> 01:07:09,960
Speaker 1: is that there are things that are that are socially

1154
01:07:10,000 --> 01:07:13,520
Speaker 1: constructed to be more inappropriate for women in general than

1155
01:07:13,560 --> 01:07:17,680
Speaker 1: for men in general, and that finding ways to overcome that,

1156
01:07:18,280 --> 01:07:22,120
Speaker 1: uh the way a female can is really fun. And

1157
01:07:22,200 --> 01:07:25,680
Speaker 1: that in trying to learn how to be a clown,

1158
01:07:26,240 --> 01:07:28,560
Speaker 1: I don't have to learn how to be a guy clown.

1159
01:07:28,720 --> 01:07:30,960
Speaker 1: I have to learn how to be my clown. Oh, guys,

1160
01:07:31,000 --> 01:07:35,960
Speaker 1: that rhymes I gotta write that downs the tagline for

1161
01:07:36,000 --> 01:07:41,880
Speaker 1: your life, right, that clown? I gotta be me. I

1162
01:07:41,960 --> 01:07:45,920
Speaker 1: come from the improv world, which is traditionally been very

1163
01:07:45,960 --> 01:07:51,840
Speaker 1: male dominated. Um and uh, you know improv in theater. Um.

1164
01:07:51,880 --> 01:07:56,240
Speaker 1: I work at Dad's Garage theater in town, um, and

1165
01:07:56,280 --> 01:07:59,240
Speaker 1: that has also gone through kind of major change with

1166
01:07:59,360 --> 01:08:02,080
Speaker 1: bringing more women and more diversity and that kind of

1167
01:08:02,080 --> 01:08:04,320
Speaker 1: stuff into the fold. But you do still run up

1168
01:08:04,360 --> 01:08:10,640
Speaker 1: against these societal buffers. And one thing that I've really

1169
01:08:10,760 --> 01:08:14,600
Speaker 1: enjoyed with my clown is that I make her she

1170
01:08:14,800 --> 01:08:18,720
Speaker 1: is so dumb, and she's so energetic, and she's so

1171
01:08:18,800 --> 01:08:22,040
Speaker 1: ready to party and like kick up her foot and

1172
01:08:22,360 --> 01:08:26,439
Speaker 1: be ridiculous. Um. So it's kind of I'm playing at

1173
01:08:26,479 --> 01:08:30,400
Speaker 1: the child's level in a lot of ways. Um. But

1174
01:08:30,520 --> 01:08:32,320
Speaker 1: I also, you know, I like to do like little

1175
01:08:32,320 --> 01:08:37,599
Speaker 1: stand up routines, you know, uh, and say terrible, terrible jokes. Um.

1176
01:08:39,320 --> 01:08:43,479
Speaker 1: But I there there is that dichotomy of like, you know,

1177
01:08:43,680 --> 01:08:46,880
Speaker 1: being feminine because I have my one of my dresses

1178
01:08:46,920 --> 01:08:49,120
Speaker 1: I have is as my new one. I love. It

1179
01:08:49,160 --> 01:08:52,240
Speaker 1: is all pink and it has angry cat faces on it. Man,

1180
01:08:52,280 --> 01:08:56,680
Speaker 1: it's so great. Um. But that you can be feminine

1181
01:08:56,720 --> 01:09:03,000
Speaker 1: and wild and rambunctious and looking to get into trouble. Um.

1182
01:09:03,000 --> 01:09:07,120
Speaker 1: But it's it's a you know, there's also you know,

1183
01:09:07,280 --> 01:09:11,519
Speaker 1: talking about like how culture progresses, right, so things that

1184
01:09:11,520 --> 01:09:15,040
Speaker 1: were once appropriate in comedy are no longer really appropriate

1185
01:09:15,040 --> 01:09:18,719
Speaker 1: in comedy. Um. That also sort of goes for clowns

1186
01:09:18,760 --> 01:09:22,760
Speaker 1: in the sense that people of my parents generation, they

1187
01:09:22,840 --> 01:09:26,679
Speaker 1: knew clowns as like a safe and adorable and they'd

1188
01:09:26,720 --> 01:09:30,120
Speaker 1: be like, oh, the clowns. Clowns signifies having fun. So

1189
01:09:30,240 --> 01:09:32,880
Speaker 1: sometimes the parents are the grandparents will look at us

1190
01:09:32,880 --> 01:09:35,720
Speaker 1: and be like, oh, hooray, but kids, because clowns are

1191
01:09:35,720 --> 01:09:39,599
Speaker 1: not you know, circuses aren't as prevalent anymore. Um, clowning

1192
01:09:39,640 --> 01:09:44,200
Speaker 1: isn't as prevalent anymore in our culture, it isn't other cultures. Um.

1193
01:09:44,320 --> 01:09:47,960
Speaker 1: We're also kind of introducing a foreign concept. Um. We

1194
01:09:48,000 --> 01:09:51,519
Speaker 1: are quite often the children's first clowns. They've never met

1195
01:09:51,520 --> 01:09:57,960
Speaker 1: a clown before. UM. I do believe that in a sense, Um,

1196
01:09:58,080 --> 01:10:02,400
Speaker 1: our femininity can work for us. Uh if you have

1197
01:10:02,479 --> 01:10:06,000
Speaker 1: a particularly high stressed room or high stressed child, um,

1198
01:10:06,160 --> 01:10:08,599
Speaker 1: and we're able to come in with a different type

1199
01:10:08,600 --> 01:10:14,360
Speaker 1: of energy. We're not as physically intimidating necessarily, um because

1200
01:10:14,400 --> 01:10:18,480
Speaker 1: you know, sometimes our dudes are big, um and uh

1201
01:10:18,840 --> 01:10:21,439
Speaker 1: so we're able to kind of go in there and

1202
01:10:22,040 --> 01:10:26,920
Speaker 1: um possibly have a uh maybe from that child's perspective,

1203
01:10:27,000 --> 01:10:30,200
Speaker 1: this is a safe a safer person. That's not always true.

1204
01:10:30,200 --> 01:10:34,880
Speaker 1: I mean we have we have lovely, gentle, wonderful men

1205
01:10:34,960 --> 01:10:39,040
Speaker 1: on our team. UM, and they all are trained and

1206
01:10:39,080 --> 01:10:45,400
Speaker 1: really knowledgeable about making themselves a smaller, smaller, or more

1207
01:10:45,439 --> 01:10:49,719
Speaker 1: approachable or more gentle and yeah, so I mean they're wonderful. Yeah,

1208
01:10:49,760 --> 01:10:52,240
Speaker 1: they're they're really wonderful guys. So if you're able to

1209
01:10:52,320 --> 01:10:57,559
Speaker 1: kind of build on that image. Um, but I don't know,

1210
01:10:57,640 --> 01:11:00,840
Speaker 1: like a Punky Brewster is one of my heroes, um.

1211
01:11:00,920 --> 01:11:03,400
Speaker 1: For you know, I know they're people out there who

1212
01:11:03,400 --> 01:11:06,840
Speaker 1: don't know who that is. That is that is the

1213
01:11:06,920 --> 01:11:15,040
Speaker 1: crime that people don't know. So nam Fry as Puckey Pruster. Um, yeah, right,

1214
01:11:15,040 --> 01:11:17,400
Speaker 1: it's been a hot minute, but she was kind of

1215
01:11:17,439 --> 01:11:20,360
Speaker 1: this awesome I try to take that energy where she

1216
01:11:20,720 --> 01:11:25,599
Speaker 1: is spunky and you know, she wears mismatched things and

1217
01:11:25,840 --> 01:11:32,080
Speaker 1: she's it's the joy of clowning. Um. And we are

1218
01:11:32,439 --> 01:11:35,759
Speaker 1: lucky that, you know, we're not only respected as clowns,

1219
01:11:35,760 --> 01:11:40,080
Speaker 1: but we're respected as uh women in a profession as

1220
01:11:40,120 --> 01:11:42,839
Speaker 1: we go through choa when we're doing checkens. You know. Uh.

1221
01:11:42,960 --> 01:11:45,959
Speaker 1: Also the nursing force, which which is what we interact

1222
01:11:46,000 --> 01:11:50,920
Speaker 1: with the most, is also prevalently women. So we're seeing, uh,

1223
01:11:50,920 --> 01:11:53,479
Speaker 1: we're speaking with a lot of women who are in

1224
01:11:53,960 --> 01:11:57,000
Speaker 1: very tough professional positions. And let me just tell you, guys,

1225
01:11:57,479 --> 01:12:01,360
Speaker 1: anyone who's listening, if you ever have a nurse, you

1226
01:12:01,520 --> 01:12:06,320
Speaker 1: better be nice to that person. They do so much work,

1227
01:12:06,560 --> 01:12:13,080
Speaker 1: they carry so much on their shoulders. They are their heroes.

1228
01:12:13,240 --> 01:12:16,800
Speaker 1: They are literal heroes. I see some of the things

1229
01:12:16,800 --> 01:12:19,639
Speaker 1: that they've had to deal with and they go through

1230
01:12:19,640 --> 01:12:24,120
Speaker 1: it with grace and humor, and I just I look

1231
01:12:24,160 --> 01:12:27,960
Speaker 1: up to them. I idolize them. So don't you be mean, groos,

1232
01:12:29,360 --> 01:12:32,599
Speaker 1: be nice. I agreed, Gene is gonna come get you

1233
01:12:33,080 --> 01:12:35,240
Speaker 1: for real. I won't show up in clown makeup because

1234
01:12:35,280 --> 01:12:37,960
Speaker 1: I don't want to add to any sigma. Please don't

1235
01:12:37,960 --> 01:12:42,240
Speaker 1: do that to me. I'll just be tough. Um. Before

1236
01:12:42,240 --> 01:12:45,400
Speaker 1: we get to like closing out final shoutouts and stuff,

1237
01:12:45,600 --> 01:12:49,080
Speaker 1: do you have any perhaps advice for listeners who might

1238
01:12:49,120 --> 01:12:51,920
Speaker 1: be interested in clowning, or any anything you want to

1239
01:12:51,920 --> 01:12:53,760
Speaker 1: add that we haven't touched on that you think it's

1240
01:12:53,760 --> 01:12:58,360
Speaker 1: really important? Um here the wheels clicking in our head. Well,

1241
01:12:58,720 --> 01:13:02,000
Speaker 1: you know, I feel I could give a whole dissertation,

1242
01:13:02,120 --> 01:13:05,599
Speaker 1: probably because she's a nerd, but I really think that

1243
01:13:06,439 --> 01:13:08,800
Speaker 1: one of the things that's challenging for us, that I

1244
01:13:08,840 --> 01:13:11,840
Speaker 1: think we could ask of everybody is just to keep

1245
01:13:11,840 --> 01:13:16,120
Speaker 1: an open mind, um about the idea of clown because

1246
01:13:16,160 --> 01:13:19,479
Speaker 1: for most people, I think it's not what you initially assume,

1247
01:13:20,000 --> 01:13:23,839
Speaker 1: at least here in the United States. Um, the idea

1248
01:13:24,120 --> 01:13:26,960
Speaker 1: of of clowning is really different than it is in

1249
01:13:27,000 --> 01:13:31,600
Speaker 1: Europe and in other places. And the the clown is

1250
01:13:31,640 --> 01:13:39,040
Speaker 1: so um is still a healer and uh and a

1251
01:13:39,640 --> 01:13:42,519
Speaker 1: new way to look at yourself through somebody else and

1252
01:13:42,600 --> 01:13:46,240
Speaker 1: a way for um, somebody to make mistakes for you

1253
01:13:46,280 --> 01:13:49,240
Speaker 1: instead of you having to do it. And it and

1254
01:13:49,479 --> 01:13:54,840
Speaker 1: is the opportunity for uh an emotional conversation and and

1255
01:13:55,000 --> 01:13:59,320
Speaker 1: for play and fun and whatever it is that somebody

1256
01:13:59,360 --> 01:14:02,280
Speaker 1: needs in any of a moment. And I think that

1257
01:14:02,280 --> 01:14:05,880
Speaker 1: that's really beautiful and that that's the essence of clown

1258
01:14:06,200 --> 01:14:10,000
Speaker 1: And I hope that people will think about that and

1259
01:14:10,040 --> 01:14:12,920
Speaker 1: give that idea a chance. UM. And I think that

1260
01:14:12,960 --> 01:14:14,840
Speaker 1: we're helping to do that and what we do because

1261
01:14:15,520 --> 01:14:19,439
Speaker 1: I hope so too, UM, because it's so it's so special.

1262
01:14:20,560 --> 01:14:25,120
Speaker 1: So and remember that we're just people. I think. You know,

1263
01:14:25,160 --> 01:14:29,719
Speaker 1: we've had these conversations with some adults who are, uh,

1264
01:14:30,160 --> 01:14:32,559
Speaker 1: like I'm afraid of clowns, or some kids who hear

1265
01:14:32,600 --> 01:14:36,439
Speaker 1: that because they've heard their adults say that. You know, um,

1266
01:14:36,479 --> 01:14:39,320
Speaker 1: you know, sometimes we'll do like noses off or something

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Speaker 1: like that and just say I'm just I'm just a

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Speaker 1: person who likes to make you laugh, um or who

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01:14:44,920 --> 01:14:48,120
Speaker 1: likes to be there if you're interested in it. I mean,

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Speaker 1: there's so many wonderful resources now to to study um

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01:14:55,439 --> 01:15:01,120
Speaker 1: clowning and different places check out, you know, like there,

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01:15:01,160 --> 01:15:04,960
Speaker 1: what does clowning look like in other cultures? Looking at

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01:15:05,000 --> 01:15:09,080
Speaker 1: some of our physical comedy grades like Buster Keaton, I'm

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01:15:09,320 --> 01:15:12,000
Speaker 1: going and watching some of his old stuff because that

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01:15:12,080 --> 01:15:16,200
Speaker 1: stuff is still hilarious today. And Chaplin and Bill Irwin

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01:15:16,560 --> 01:15:20,439
Speaker 1: and then such a dream about women. You know, if

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Speaker 1: you look at Annie fred Alini and um Karenda Santos,

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01:15:26,040 --> 01:15:28,439
Speaker 1: you know there's some great even Carol Burnett. I mean

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Speaker 1: she has a lot of clown in Lucille Ball, but

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Speaker 1: I mean physical comedy and clowning. I would consider those

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Speaker 1: ladies absolutely, So, you know, go out and do your

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Speaker 1: research and see and go train in the studio, Go

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Speaker 1: to New York and take a watkshop with one of

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Speaker 1: the great. Come. I don't don't go to Los Angeles

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01:15:51,720 --> 01:15:55,120
Speaker 1: to Florida. I don't know there was Florida, Florida in

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Speaker 1: the story. Go to see Florida. Man Florida man will

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01:15:57,680 --> 01:16:00,559
Speaker 1: always help you. I don't know. I think that the

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01:16:00,640 --> 01:16:03,800
Speaker 1: idea is to the more well rounded you can be

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01:16:03,880 --> 01:16:06,680
Speaker 1: as a performer and as a person, the better a

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01:16:06,680 --> 01:16:11,080
Speaker 1: clown you'll be. So immerse yourself in books and in history,

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01:16:11,240 --> 01:16:16,240
Speaker 1: and uh, learn a couple of fart jokes. Um, you

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01:16:16,280 --> 01:16:20,000
Speaker 1: know what advice that's gonna and then they go, maybe

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01:16:20,040 --> 01:16:23,960
Speaker 1: learn a couple of couples, learn a couple of songs.

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Speaker 1: My mom is not proud of him. Um, yes she is.

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01:16:27,000 --> 01:16:29,760
Speaker 1: You're wonderful, but got to different places. Like you know,

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Speaker 1: there are still things that exist, like Eddie's Trick Shop.

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01:16:32,800 --> 01:16:36,040
Speaker 1: You know these awesome like little magic stores, you know.

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01:16:36,280 --> 01:16:41,679
Speaker 1: Or I love costumes, et cetera. As another great resource

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01:16:41,720 --> 01:16:44,479
Speaker 1: in Atlanta where you can go in and like when

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01:16:44,479 --> 01:16:46,160
Speaker 1: I was a kid, I used to go into Spencer's

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Speaker 1: Gift and buy like like the snapping gum, or like

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01:16:50,439 --> 01:16:52,200
Speaker 1: the can of peanuts with the snake in it. I've

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01:16:52,240 --> 01:16:57,400
Speaker 1: always been a goofy weirdo. I taught myself in triloquism

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01:16:57,400 --> 01:16:59,479
Speaker 1: as a child because I thought it might make me popular.

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01:17:00,040 --> 01:17:04,640
Speaker 1: Uh it didn't. It was Montgomery, Alabama, and I was

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01:17:04,680 --> 01:17:08,240
Speaker 1: already weird enough and then I buried that memory until

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01:17:08,280 --> 01:17:15,160
Speaker 1: I needed it as a professional twenty years later and monologue.

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01:17:15,200 --> 01:17:19,080
Speaker 1: Absolutely so, I mean it's I would say, building on

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Speaker 1: what Maya said, the thing that will make you a wonderful,

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01:17:23,640 --> 01:17:27,640
Speaker 1: bankable performer is the thing about you. It's that, it's you,

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01:17:28,280 --> 01:17:30,960
Speaker 1: It's what you're bringing to the table. You know. So,

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Speaker 1: maybe you don't want to work in a hospital, but

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01:17:34,080 --> 01:17:36,760
Speaker 1: there are innumerable other ways that you can use the

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Speaker 1: art of clown to engage people and to bring joy.

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01:17:40,680 --> 01:17:42,880
Speaker 1: Because guys, I don't know if you notice, but the

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01:17:42,880 --> 01:17:44,840
Speaker 1: world is a little bit of a garbage fire right now.

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01:17:44,880 --> 01:17:48,400
Speaker 1: Things are really scary. So anyway that we can bring joy,

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01:17:49,400 --> 01:17:52,680
Speaker 1: uh and comfort and connection to other people is just

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Speaker 1: it's the best. That's lovely. I'm so glad we we've

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Speaker 1: got to have you both on here because I feel

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Speaker 1: like I have learned a lot, and I hope that

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Speaker 1: listeners will We'll learn a lot and appreciate this perspective.

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Speaker 1: Yes for sure. Yes, So um, how can people find you, Maya? Yes? Um,

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01:18:16,160 --> 01:18:21,320
Speaker 1: so you can good to our website, which is Humology

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Speaker 1: Atlanta dot org. We fancy y'all dot org, and you

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01:18:27,080 --> 01:18:30,400
Speaker 1: can feel free to contact us there, but I think

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01:18:30,479 --> 01:18:33,800
Speaker 1: probably especially for more of you younger folks. If you

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Speaker 1: want to get us on the facebooks, um or Instagrams

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01:18:39,640 --> 01:18:44,720
Speaker 1: or instagrams, say this right. So on Facebook we are

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Speaker 1: Humorology Atlanta. Ha, so come check us out there. On

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01:18:50,000 --> 01:18:56,160
Speaker 1: Instagrams we are Humorology Atlanta. All one word chase chases

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Speaker 1: don't matter. Um. And we have some videos not on

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Speaker 1: our YouTube channel as well if you want to check out. Yeah, yes,

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01:19:04,920 --> 01:19:07,320
Speaker 1: totally go check that out. I will definitely link it

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Speaker 1: to the episode when we published this for sure. And

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Speaker 1: I don't know when you guys are publishing this, but

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Speaker 1: if if you're publishing it before September twenty one, we

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01:19:17,520 --> 01:19:20,559
Speaker 1: are having a huge performance. All of our clowns are

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01:19:20,560 --> 01:19:26,439
Speaker 1: performing on Yeah, you guys want to come, You're invited. UM.

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01:19:26,479 --> 01:19:32,120
Speaker 1: There's going to be everything from Diablo to some hilarious dancing,

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01:19:32,400 --> 01:19:39,719
Speaker 1: traditional clown bits, um less traditional clown bits, juggling, singing, singing, um,

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01:19:40,080 --> 01:19:44,240
Speaker 1: you name it, just plouting around. And it's proud of

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01:19:44,280 --> 01:19:47,880
Speaker 1: you for saying that. It's our annual fundraiser and all

1344
01:19:48,120 --> 01:19:52,599
Speaker 1: all proceeds go to help bring more joy to people

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01:19:52,640 --> 01:19:54,960
Speaker 1: in need of joy. Where's it at? It is at

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Speaker 1: Holy Innocence Episcopal School in their Performing Arts center. It's

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01:19:59,520 --> 01:20:02,759
Speaker 1: in Sandy Brinks. Yeah, it's actually like super nice guys,

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01:20:03,160 --> 01:20:06,760
Speaker 1: it's really cool. Yeah, someone somewhat fancy. Yeah all right,

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01:20:06,880 --> 01:20:10,960
Speaker 1: and there's free parking, it's totally air conditioned. That great

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01:20:11,000 --> 01:20:18,560
Speaker 1: place adult beverages. You can't church place. I just realized

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01:20:17,280 --> 01:20:20,719
Speaker 1: that I need to go home. You need to com Catholic.

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01:20:20,800 --> 01:20:25,200
Speaker 1: I mean, they drink a lot of while totally recommend

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01:20:25,280 --> 01:20:28,439
Speaker 1: that you that you pre party, but we got a

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01:20:28,479 --> 01:20:31,719
Speaker 1: pre game. I kind of forgot. There's also kids clown Okay,

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01:20:32,000 --> 01:20:38,719
Speaker 1: all right, so everybody's mocktails for all the class. Oh cool, perfect,

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Speaker 1: It'll be super fun, I promise. So that brings us

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Speaker 1: to the end of this episode, this interview. We hope

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01:20:48,000 --> 01:20:51,120
Speaker 1: you enjoyed it as much as we did. And I

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01:20:51,200 --> 01:20:53,559
Speaker 1: just found it, like we said, really inspiring. And also

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Speaker 1: I just I hadn't thought about it in that way.

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Speaker 1: And as they said, they actually do have an event

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Speaker 1: Saturday if you happened to be in Atlanta, and that

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Speaker 1: sounds like an amazing, amazing event September twenty one, twenty nineteen,

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Speaker 1: So of course you have depend but if you're listening

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01:21:12,280 --> 01:21:15,320
Speaker 1: as it's coming out and you're around Atlanta and you

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01:21:15,320 --> 01:21:17,639
Speaker 1: have you know, you want to support something amazing. They're

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01:21:17,640 --> 01:21:20,040
Speaker 1: doing a great benefit. Um will definitely put a link

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01:21:20,080 --> 01:21:22,720
Speaker 1: to that or at least linked to their website to

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01:21:22,760 --> 01:21:27,360
Speaker 1: do that. Yes, yes, um yeah, definitely check that out.

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Speaker 1: And uh, we would love to hear from you listeners.

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Speaker 1: If you have any clowning stories of your own, you

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Speaker 1: can email us at Stuff Media, mom Stuff at i

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01:21:37,600 --> 01:21:40,320
Speaker 1: heeart media dot com. You can find us on Twitter

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01:21:40,400 --> 01:21:43,320
Speaker 1: at mom Stuff podcast or on Instagram at Stuff I've

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01:21:43,360 --> 01:21:46,160
Speaker 1: Never Told You. Thanks as always to our super producer

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01:21:46,360 --> 01:21:50,040
Speaker 1: Andrew Howard, and thanks to you for listening Stuff I've

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Speaker 1: Never Told You the protection of I Heart Radio's How

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Speaker 1: Stuff Works. For more podcasts from my Heart Radio, visit

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