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Speaker 1: How are we doing? It? Is Monday night, a little

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Speaker 1: that's part of his story, right. So Dak has taken

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Speaker 1: And that's the playmaking that was obviously missing last week

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Speaker 1: of these big games. They can compete with the Eagles, right,

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Speaker 1: The cow Boys, you know, couldn't afford to lose this game.

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Speaker 1: the good DAC showed up. What happened, Cowboys got a massive,

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Speaker 1: wasn't working, and clearly Jim Schwartz had taught the guys

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Speaker 1: don't bite, and they weren't biting, and they were constantly

427
00:23:42,680 --> 00:23:45,280
Speaker 1: just getting into Perty's face. And then on the final

428
00:23:45,359 --> 00:23:49,080
Speaker 1: drive of the game, they kind of just went normal football,

429
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Speaker 1: spread it out, getting the shotgun four or five wide.

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Speaker 1: Even with Debo and McCaffrey out, you still can roll

431
00:23:55,680 --> 00:24:00,520
Speaker 1: out Ayuk Kittle, Jennings, you got other players. You can

432
00:24:00,560 --> 00:24:02,800
Speaker 1: still spread the field out. But that's not Kyle's deal.

433
00:24:03,240 --> 00:24:06,040
Speaker 1: He hates really that that's not part of his offense

434
00:24:06,359 --> 00:24:09,280
Speaker 1: unless he's forced into it. And it worked, and I

435
00:24:09,320 --> 00:24:11,480
Speaker 1: thought Kyle like, party's gonna take a lot of shit,

436
00:24:11,760 --> 00:24:14,320
Speaker 1: and rightfully so was not good. His coach did not

437
00:24:14,359 --> 00:24:16,560
Speaker 1: help him out. His coach did not help him out

438
00:24:16,560 --> 00:24:20,280
Speaker 1: at all. Same thing with the Eagles. Jalen Hurts awful

439
00:24:20,560 --> 00:24:22,480
Speaker 1: like that, that's as bad of a game as you're

440
00:24:22,480 --> 00:24:25,960
Speaker 1: gonna see him play. Here's the problem and part of

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Speaker 1: the reason I did not bet the Jets and I

442
00:24:28,880 --> 00:24:30,919
Speaker 1: didn't even pick them to beat the Eagles in my

443
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Speaker 1: bold Play of the Week because I felt the Jets

444
00:24:35,560 --> 00:24:39,280
Speaker 1: are good from playing from ahead or even a type

445
00:24:39,359 --> 00:24:41,959
Speaker 1: game when they know you have to pass, because they

446
00:24:41,960 --> 00:24:45,240
Speaker 1: have unlimited pass rushers and they can tee off. Well,

447
00:24:45,280 --> 00:24:46,919
Speaker 1: I was like, they're playing the Eagles. The Eagles are

448
00:24:46,960 --> 00:24:49,040
Speaker 1: running it down people's throats. The Eagles are gonna run

449
00:24:49,080 --> 00:24:51,360
Speaker 1: it forty five times on them. He goles had to eat.

450
00:24:51,440 --> 00:24:53,320
Speaker 1: I look up, it's fourteen to three. I'm like, ah,

451
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Speaker 1: just run DeAndre Swift till the wheels fall off, and

452
00:24:56,720 --> 00:24:59,239
Speaker 1: you know, beat him into submission. And then, I mean

453
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Speaker 1: I was glued to that game. Pass after pass after passed,

454
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Speaker 1: and I looked up how many carries did DeAndre Swift get? Ten?

455
00:25:06,440 --> 00:25:10,920
Speaker 1: How many passes did Jalen Hurts get almost fifty. What

456
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Speaker 1: the fuck were they doing? It? Honestly made no sense,

457
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Speaker 1: Like I guess I get, Kyle, that's not really our

458
00:25:17,760 --> 00:25:21,080
Speaker 1: offensive playbook. Like, I'm sorry, you have to have it shotguns,

459
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Speaker 1: spread it out the Eagles, like just call some run plays.

460
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Speaker 1: Why are you passing it against a team that you

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Speaker 1: have when you're playing Zach Wilson, Like a commanding lead

462
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Speaker 1: is fourteen to three, I mean that's fourteen to nine,

463
00:25:35,480 --> 00:25:38,920
Speaker 1: Like that's you should feel good about your advantage. You're

464
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Speaker 1: not playing Mahomes, Tyreek and Kelsey here run it down

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Speaker 1: their throat. Get it felt like every single play drop back,

466
00:25:46,080 --> 00:25:48,760
Speaker 1: drop back, drop back, and then the moment they hit

467
00:25:48,800 --> 00:25:51,080
Speaker 1: aj Brown down the sideline, I'm like, oh, they're not

468
00:25:51,119 --> 00:25:54,560
Speaker 1: gonna stop passing it. And ultimately what did them in

469
00:25:55,119 --> 00:25:58,440
Speaker 1: a pick which cost them the game? Now we can nitpick.

470
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Speaker 1: I didn't quite understand, And you know, I saw Siriani

471
00:26:01,880 --> 00:26:07,480
Speaker 1: today would not admit to allowing them to score. Clearly

472
00:26:07,560 --> 00:26:10,280
Speaker 1: they did. I thought you could have played defense there.

473
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Speaker 1: Everyone's like, just let him score. You get the ball

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Speaker 1: back two timeouts. You had fourteen fucking points. This notion like, oh,

475
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Speaker 1: scoring a timeout with one hundred a minute forty left

476
00:26:18,480 --> 00:26:21,480
Speaker 1: and two timeouts is easy. It is really in that game,

477
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Speaker 1: like they have fourteen points. If you had thirty seven points,

478
00:26:25,359 --> 00:26:28,720
Speaker 1: I'd understand it. It's like Dan Lanning, he wouldn't kick

479
00:26:28,720 --> 00:26:30,800
Speaker 1: the punt at the end of the Oregon Washington game.

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Speaker 1: I'd understand it. If on every single drive they were scoring,

481
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Speaker 1: you would allowed one touchdown in the second half. Your

482
00:26:36,680 --> 00:26:41,399
Speaker 1: defense is playing well punt play defense. It's easier to

483
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Speaker 1: kick a field goal of fifty seconds left no timeouts.

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Speaker 1: I just I don't agree with that. And I'm not

485
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Speaker 1: anti going forward or anti the chart, but sometimes I'm

486
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Speaker 1: just baffled by, oh, minute forty two timeouts. You're gonna score,

487
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Speaker 1: You're gonna score a touchdown. You've scruggled, you literally struggled

488
00:26:57,400 --> 00:26:59,480
Speaker 1: all game long to score touchdowns, and now you're gonna

489
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Speaker 1: score based on what evidence, I don't see it. What

490
00:27:02,880 --> 00:27:05,399
Speaker 1: happened not only didn't score, he didn't even get close.

491
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Speaker 1: So I think both Obviously, Brian Johnson has struggled, Kyle

492
00:27:10,800 --> 00:27:13,320
Speaker 1: Shanahan has not. He's had a fantastic year. But Brian

493
00:27:13,359 --> 00:27:16,480
Speaker 1: Johnson was terrible that game, and I thought Kyle you

494
00:27:16,520 --> 00:27:19,040
Speaker 1: know in the second half was not really good either.

495
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Speaker 1: And listen, sometimes offensive coordinators have bad games, especially when

496
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Speaker 1: you have injuries. And clearly with the Eagles, it's hard

497
00:27:25,320 --> 00:27:27,480
Speaker 1: to play without Lane Johnson. I think their record without

498
00:27:27,520 --> 00:27:30,600
Speaker 1: Lane Johnson is not good. And anytime you lose the

499
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Speaker 1: Eagles are lucky. Right, most teams, if you're lucky, have

500
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Speaker 1: one good tackle. The Eagles have too. And if you

501
00:27:38,480 --> 00:27:40,720
Speaker 1: have a good right tackle, the drop off if you

502
00:27:40,760 --> 00:27:43,120
Speaker 1: have a Pro Bowler level right tackle from that guy

503
00:27:43,119 --> 00:27:45,880
Speaker 1: to your next guy is I don't care. I never

504
00:27:45,920 --> 00:27:47,960
Speaker 1: get mad at teams like, why don't they have better depth?

505
00:27:48,080 --> 00:27:50,960
Speaker 1: You think it's easy to find good backup offensive tackles.

506
00:27:51,440 --> 00:27:53,479
Speaker 1: If a guy is quote unquote a really good backup

507
00:27:53,480 --> 00:27:56,040
Speaker 1: offensive tackle, he could start for half the league. So

508
00:27:56,280 --> 00:27:59,640
Speaker 1: anytime you're gonna lose one of your guys, you're gonna

509
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Speaker 1: be in troup. And obviously the Eagles are when they

510
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Speaker 1: lose Lane Johnson. Okay, one more thing, really quick, the Patriots.

511
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Speaker 1: I saw Teddy Bruski today. One thing that's weird is

512
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Speaker 1: a lot of Patriots are in the media right Basically

513
00:28:13,800 --> 00:28:16,120
Speaker 1: every single show has a former Patriot, and they're kind

514
00:28:16,119 --> 00:28:19,320
Speaker 1: of pressed Now if Teddy Bruski or Edelman or McCarty's

515
00:28:19,359 --> 00:28:21,720
Speaker 1: on my show, like what do you think we're talking

516
00:28:21,760 --> 00:28:24,240
Speaker 1: to them about. I'm not asking them about the Jags

517
00:28:24,320 --> 00:28:26,239
Speaker 1: or the Colts, Like what the fuck is going on

518
00:28:26,280 --> 00:28:30,000
Speaker 1: with Bill Belichick? And I saw Teddy Bruski say, like, listen,

519
00:28:30,400 --> 00:28:32,800
Speaker 1: it's hard like they are as bad and listen. I

520
00:28:33,600 --> 00:28:37,200
Speaker 1: got fired in radio because I was the postgame host

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00:28:37,240 --> 00:28:40,240
Speaker 1: for the Raiders and this is when they were really,

522
00:28:40,280 --> 00:28:43,280
Speaker 1: really terrible. And when you're close to a team, when

523
00:28:43,280 --> 00:28:45,560
Speaker 1: you work in an environment around the team and they're bad,

524
00:28:45,640 --> 00:28:49,360
Speaker 1: it's impossible, or maybe it is possible. If you're able

525
00:28:49,400 --> 00:28:50,920
Speaker 1: to do this, I think you're kind of a loser.

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Speaker 1: I found it impossible when you're talking about a two

527
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Speaker 1: to three four win team to act like things are

528
00:28:57,040 --> 00:28:59,920
Speaker 1: rosie because on a weekly basis, when the team is

529
00:29:00,120 --> 00:29:02,400
Speaker 1: bad and not just bad, usually getting your ass kicked,

530
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Speaker 1: it's hard to find silver linings. So when these guys

531
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Speaker 1: are getting asked, they're starting to be more and more negative.

532
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Speaker 1: The penalties. I mean, yesterday the game opened up with

533
00:29:11,160 --> 00:29:15,680
Speaker 1: multiple penalties. This is the New England Patriots. So Teddy

534
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Speaker 1: Bruski basically said, like you know it's kind of Robert

535
00:29:19,720 --> 00:29:21,880
Speaker 1: Craft's decision, but this team does not look like a

536
00:29:21,920 --> 00:29:25,520
Speaker 1: Bill Belichick team. And listen, let's face it, this team's awful.

537
00:29:25,920 --> 00:29:29,280
Speaker 1: They're really bad. They had no business even being close

538
00:29:29,360 --> 00:29:32,840
Speaker 1: in that game. I think Mac Jones is I don't

539
00:29:32,840 --> 00:29:35,200
Speaker 1: even it's not even opinion. He's objectively not a very

540
00:29:35,240 --> 00:29:37,720
Speaker 1: good NFL quarterback right now. And it's like, well, he

541
00:29:37,720 --> 00:29:40,560
Speaker 1: doesn't have the players. The whole operation sucks. This is

542
00:29:40,600 --> 00:29:42,440
Speaker 1: a team that's destined to win four games. But the

543
00:29:42,440 --> 00:29:44,560
Speaker 1: best part of your Robert Craft because I hear like,

544
00:29:44,600 --> 00:29:47,960
Speaker 1: oh the Patriots off sell off, who what is their talent?

545
00:29:47,960 --> 00:29:50,680
Speaker 1: They don't even need to do anything, Like Bill Belichick

546
00:29:50,760 --> 00:29:52,520
Speaker 1: is literally coaching a team that's headed toward three or

547
00:29:52,560 --> 00:29:55,480
Speaker 1: four wins. Just let it play out. But I will

548
00:29:55,520 --> 00:29:59,120
Speaker 1: say this over and over and over again. Bill Belichick

549
00:29:59,600 --> 00:30:04,800
Speaker 1: separate as a head coach for being ruthless, for being unemotional,

550
00:30:05,120 --> 00:30:08,240
Speaker 1: for trading guys when he'd go, I'm gonna be a

551
00:30:08,320 --> 00:30:10,720
Speaker 1: yearly instead of a year late. He learned that from

552
00:30:10,720 --> 00:30:14,479
Speaker 1: Bill Walsh, who was also the original maybe Al Davis

553
00:30:14,520 --> 00:30:16,800
Speaker 1: was in the seventies, like no emotion when it comes

554
00:30:16,800 --> 00:30:19,080
Speaker 1: to players, treat it like a truly as a business,

555
00:30:19,080 --> 00:30:20,960
Speaker 1: which is hard for a lot of coaches. You get

556
00:30:20,960 --> 00:30:24,880
Speaker 1: emotionally invested. Why would Robert Kraft now with how ugly

557
00:30:24,920 --> 00:30:26,760
Speaker 1: it is, I would get given them the benefit of

558
00:30:26,760 --> 00:30:28,080
Speaker 1: the doubt. If you're like nine and eight and you're

559
00:30:28,120 --> 00:30:30,800
Speaker 1: just barely missing the wild card, you turn winning three

560
00:30:30,840 --> 00:30:35,080
Speaker 1: or four games, I'm sorry, it's over. I understand. You've

561
00:30:35,520 --> 00:30:38,160
Speaker 1: six Lombardes, you went to nine Super Bowls. It was

562
00:30:38,160 --> 00:30:42,080
Speaker 1: an incredible run. No one can ever take away, and

563
00:30:42,160 --> 00:30:45,200
Speaker 1: any of us live through it, we all agree it

564
00:30:45,280 --> 00:30:47,560
Speaker 1: was one of the most remarkable. It's the most remarkable

565
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Speaker 1: thing we'll ever see in the NFL. The Chiefs could

566
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Speaker 1: go on a dynasty run. If they win four Super Bowls,

567
00:30:52,720 --> 00:30:56,560
Speaker 1: that would be you know, beyond unlikely at this point. Hell,

568
00:30:56,560 --> 00:30:59,320
Speaker 1: if they win one more, that's a fucking incredible accomplishment.

569
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Speaker 1: Bil those guys win six in like multiple decades, right,

570
00:31:02,720 --> 00:31:06,000
Speaker 1: three and three in multiple days, It's crazy. And went

571
00:31:06,040 --> 00:31:08,640
Speaker 1: to two other ones in the middle. So I just

572
00:31:08,680 --> 00:31:12,320
Speaker 1: think that it's over, and the team feels worse and

573
00:31:12,480 --> 00:31:14,480
Speaker 1: worse by the week. It's one thing to lose to

574
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Speaker 1: a playoff team. It's one thing to get your ass

575
00:31:16,320 --> 00:31:19,000
Speaker 1: kicked by Dallas. To me, the Saints game did not

576
00:31:19,040 --> 00:31:21,320
Speaker 1: age well. If you watched the Saints against Texans and

577
00:31:21,320 --> 00:31:23,560
Speaker 1: the Raiders just aren't good. The other thing, Jimmy Garoppol

578
00:31:23,560 --> 00:31:24,800
Speaker 1: in the middle of the game went to the hospital.

579
00:31:25,160 --> 00:31:27,400
Speaker 1: You got Brian Hoyr kicking your ass. You got Josh

580
00:31:27,480 --> 00:31:33,080
Speaker 1: McDaniels and Brian Hoyder. If I'm Robert kraft Man, this

581
00:31:33,160 --> 00:31:36,280
Speaker 1: is all she wrote. Let's get into a little uh

582
00:31:36,880 --> 00:31:40,280
Speaker 1: Morgan and Morgan making it look easy. And I've thought

583
00:31:40,320 --> 00:31:42,560
Speaker 1: long and hard this weekend. I think last week I

584
00:31:42,600 --> 00:31:44,719
Speaker 1: gave it to Max Crosby because I wanted to give

585
00:31:44,720 --> 00:31:49,160
Speaker 1: it to again. I think Max Crosby. I don't know

586
00:31:49,200 --> 00:31:51,000
Speaker 1: who the leader in the clubhouse is right now for

587
00:31:51,080 --> 00:31:53,080
Speaker 1: defensive Player of the Year, but I just know, based

588
00:31:53,120 --> 00:31:56,040
Speaker 1: on my eyes, I don't think there's been a better

589
00:31:56,080 --> 00:31:59,120
Speaker 1: defensive player, you know, through the middle of October than

590
00:31:59,120 --> 00:32:01,840
Speaker 1: Max Crosby. He definitely no one in the NFL plays harder.

591
00:32:02,320 --> 00:32:04,440
Speaker 1: And I think like part of you know, Miles Garrett

592
00:32:04,520 --> 00:32:08,760
Speaker 1: elite player, his defense is really good. Micah Parsons elite player,

593
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Speaker 1: his talent round was pretty good. I'm watching Max Crosby,

594
00:32:11,640 --> 00:32:15,200
Speaker 1: like most of the guys around him, fucking suck. I mean, uh,

595
00:32:15,320 --> 00:32:19,360
Speaker 1: Taylor Jones, He's like arrested in the Looney Bend. You

596
00:32:19,400 --> 00:32:22,200
Speaker 1: know what's going on there that their defense is terrible,

597
00:32:22,200 --> 00:32:25,800
Speaker 1: their team's awful, and you got Max Crosby playing like

598
00:32:25,840 --> 00:32:27,600
Speaker 1: he's Lawrence Taylor. But I can't give it to him

599
00:32:27,600 --> 00:32:29,800
Speaker 1: two weeks in a row, and usually we give this

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Speaker 1: to a player. But I was thinking about this. I

601
00:32:31,240 --> 00:32:35,520
Speaker 1: was watching football on Sunday. I thought this team was

602
00:32:35,560 --> 00:32:37,840
Speaker 1: gonna be got awful. I thought they were gonna have

603
00:32:37,880 --> 00:32:41,840
Speaker 1: the number one overall pick. They're three and three and honestly,

604
00:32:41,880 --> 00:32:44,160
Speaker 1: they feel like a wild card team. He's got a

605
00:32:44,160 --> 00:32:48,240
Speaker 1: baby on the way. I think Sean McVeigh, given how

606
00:32:48,440 --> 00:32:51,440
Speaker 1: random this team is, I mean, through the first before

607
00:32:51,480 --> 00:32:54,840
Speaker 1: Cooper Cup came back, he's playing with Puka Nakua. Let's

608
00:32:54,840 --> 00:32:57,160
Speaker 1: face it, nobody listening had ever heard of him. If

609
00:32:57,160 --> 00:32:59,640
Speaker 1: you're not a BUYU fan and a bunch of random

610
00:32:59,640 --> 00:33:03,400
Speaker 1: guys on defense beside Aaron Donald, now listen, Arizona's not

611
00:33:03,520 --> 00:33:07,720
Speaker 1: very good. But McVeigh, they kicked their ass. I don't

612
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Speaker 1: think it's out of their own possibility. If Matt Stafford

613
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Speaker 1: can stay healthy. You know, this team can win nine

614
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Speaker 1: ten games. This team could be the sixth seed. The

615
00:33:17,360 --> 00:33:20,120
Speaker 1: La Rams could essentially be what the Giants war last year.

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Speaker 1: And listen, you might have been a hater like me.

617
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Speaker 1: Even if you were like not, you know, you were

618
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Speaker 1: just like unemotional about it. You didn't necessarily had an opinion.

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Speaker 1: You probably would have said they're not going to be

620
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Speaker 1: very good. They weren't good last year, and they've been

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Speaker 1: really good. They've been exceptional on offense. So baby on

622
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Speaker 1: the way. Sean mcvayh proven why he's a really good coach.

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629
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Speaker 1: couple more things. Let's start with and Colin and I

630
00:34:06,280 --> 00:34:08,919
Speaker 1: touched on a little bit, and I believe this when

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00:34:08,920 --> 00:34:12,160
Speaker 1: I said it that the Lions in the number one

632
00:34:12,280 --> 00:34:15,759
Speaker 1: seed is not out of the realm of possibility. Look

633
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Speaker 1: at the Niners and Eagles schedule. Obviously, they just had

634
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Speaker 1: some major injuries. We'll see one thing, you know, McCaffrey

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Speaker 1: and Lane Johnson, even if they end up playing this

636
00:34:26,960 --> 00:34:29,239
Speaker 1: week or however it plays out. I mean, those guys

637
00:34:29,239 --> 00:34:33,160
Speaker 1: are compromise players now. I mean they've been injured, and

638
00:34:33,239 --> 00:34:35,439
Speaker 1: it's just something to keep an eye on. Obviously, Lane

639
00:34:35,520 --> 00:34:39,839
Speaker 1: Johnson and Christian McCaffrey their record and their impact. Lane

640
00:34:39,920 --> 00:34:43,120
Speaker 1: Johnson's resume for the Eagles is much longer in terms

641
00:34:43,120 --> 00:34:46,520
Speaker 1: of his impacts, wins and losses than McCaffrey's, while McCaffrey's

642
00:34:46,520 --> 00:34:48,759
Speaker 1: is short. When he's been on the field that they

643
00:34:48,800 --> 00:34:51,799
Speaker 1: have kicked serious ass and taken names. So it's just

644
00:34:51,840 --> 00:34:54,960
Speaker 1: something to keep an eye on. Just enough story. But

645
00:34:55,640 --> 00:34:59,120
Speaker 1: I thought a lot about the Lions because I believed

646
00:34:59,120 --> 00:35:01,879
Speaker 1: in them coming into this season, not because I thought

647
00:35:01,920 --> 00:35:04,719
Speaker 1: they were gonna win fourteen or fifteen games, because I

648
00:35:04,760 --> 00:35:08,319
Speaker 1: love the roster and the talent spoke for itself, and

649
00:35:08,400 --> 00:35:11,400
Speaker 1: I think the way they finished last year and every

650
00:35:11,440 --> 00:35:14,239
Speaker 1: season you start fresh. So the momentum at the end

651
00:35:14,239 --> 00:35:16,400
Speaker 1: of a season, especially when you don't make the playoffs,

652
00:35:16,719 --> 00:35:20,080
Speaker 1: people always argue and talk about is irrelevant because the

653
00:35:20,120 --> 00:35:22,960
Speaker 1: next season does not care. You're not guaranteed the next season.

654
00:35:23,400 --> 00:35:27,480
Speaker 1: Here's the thing, though, they were littered with young players

655
00:35:27,600 --> 00:35:30,160
Speaker 1: who were ascending, and then they had a really high

656
00:35:30,239 --> 00:35:32,440
Speaker 1: pick because of the trade they had with the Rams,

657
00:35:32,960 --> 00:35:37,600
Speaker 1: which they parlayed into multiple players. Now we'll see now

658
00:35:37,640 --> 00:35:41,080
Speaker 1: with Montgomery being injured, Gibbs will play more. But they

659
00:35:41,120 --> 00:35:45,440
Speaker 1: turned basically that pick into Gibbs and a tight end Laporta,

660
00:35:45,880 --> 00:35:48,319
Speaker 1: which I like both those guys. And then we'll see

661
00:35:48,320 --> 00:35:53,560
Speaker 1: how good the other hybrid linebacker from Iowa, Campbell can become.

662
00:35:53,760 --> 00:35:56,120
Speaker 1: But like I think they're a pretty excited big picture

663
00:35:56,160 --> 00:35:59,040
Speaker 1: about those three players. Now, they might be better in

664
00:35:59,080 --> 00:36:01,400
Speaker 1: a couple of years because those players will truly be

665
00:36:01,480 --> 00:36:05,440
Speaker 1: in their prime, including Jamison Williams, including Pine Seel, including

666
00:36:05,480 --> 00:36:09,279
Speaker 1: Aiden Hutchinson. You know, they got years to come. But

667
00:36:09,360 --> 00:36:12,840
Speaker 1: right now they're really good. And I was thinking about

668
00:36:13,000 --> 00:36:15,160
Speaker 1: one thing they clearly did a good job of when

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00:36:15,239 --> 00:36:18,440
Speaker 1: they made the trade for Stafford. The forty nine ers

670
00:36:18,480 --> 00:36:20,399
Speaker 1: wanted him to and they're like, hey, we will give

671
00:36:20,440 --> 00:36:22,840
Speaker 1: you the same package of Jimmy Garoppolo, and the Rams

672
00:36:22,840 --> 00:36:24,759
Speaker 1: are like, hey, we'll give you these two picks and

673
00:36:24,880 --> 00:36:27,919
Speaker 1: Jared Goff, and they chose Jared Goff and a lot

674
00:36:27,920 --> 00:36:29,960
Speaker 1: of people and I'm sure I was guilty of this too,

675
00:36:30,160 --> 00:36:32,359
Speaker 1: was like, do you really want Jared Goff? And they

676
00:36:32,440 --> 00:36:34,120
Speaker 1: used to say, like, we believe in this guy, we

677
00:36:34,160 --> 00:36:36,759
Speaker 1: want him to be our quarterback. He hasn't just you know,

678
00:36:37,040 --> 00:36:39,440
Speaker 1: filled the gap for them. He's been a top I

679
00:36:39,480 --> 00:36:42,360
Speaker 1: don't know, twelve quarterback these last couple of years. And

680
00:36:42,440 --> 00:36:45,200
Speaker 1: I think when you look at his salary, like google

681
00:36:45,239 --> 00:36:47,319
Speaker 1: how much Jared Goff's making right now. He's not a

682
00:36:47,360 --> 00:36:49,680
Speaker 1: fifty million dollar quarterback, but he's under contract for this

683
00:36:49,760 --> 00:36:52,080
Speaker 1: year and obviously next year, so he's not even a

684
00:36:52,120 --> 00:36:55,360
Speaker 1: free agent till the twenty twenty five season. And his

685
00:36:55,440 --> 00:36:57,560
Speaker 1: cap number is fantastic. I mean, you're talking about a

686
00:36:57,600 --> 00:37:00,279
Speaker 1: guy that'd made like twenty five thirty million dollars who

687
00:37:00,320 --> 00:37:02,560
Speaker 1: is playing at a Pro Bowl level, like Jared Goff

688
00:37:02,680 --> 00:37:05,160
Speaker 1: is going to be an NFC Pro Bowler if he

689
00:37:05,200 --> 00:37:07,840
Speaker 1: doesn't get hurt. So they got a Pro Bowl quarterback

690
00:37:08,200 --> 00:37:11,160
Speaker 1: for basically half the going rate, who they like, who

691
00:37:11,160 --> 00:37:14,000
Speaker 1: has a chip on his shoulder and who clearly has

692
00:37:14,120 --> 00:37:17,320
Speaker 1: helped elevate the squad. And they got the Dan Campbell

693
00:37:17,400 --> 00:37:20,880
Speaker 1: higher right, Like you watch the Lions. His team is

694
00:37:21,280 --> 00:37:24,400
Speaker 1: prepared to play every single week. They have a physical style.

695
00:37:24,920 --> 00:37:28,200
Speaker 1: They are just good. They are a well coached football team.

696
00:37:28,239 --> 00:37:31,880
Speaker 1: So the coaching quarterback thing is really good. But part

697
00:37:31,920 --> 00:37:35,399
Speaker 1: of once you made that trade, like you gotta put

698
00:37:35,440 --> 00:37:37,480
Speaker 1: the pieces together, Like you got to hit on the

699
00:37:37,560 --> 00:37:41,280
Speaker 1: draft picks. Making a trade like that. We've seen Jalen Ramsey,

700
00:37:41,320 --> 00:37:44,440
Speaker 1: We've seen Jamal Adams, Khalil Mack. You gotta hit on

701
00:37:44,440 --> 00:37:46,640
Speaker 1: the picks because if you do hit on the picks,

702
00:37:47,000 --> 00:37:49,719
Speaker 1: it can change your franchise. And it looks like if

703
00:37:49,760 --> 00:37:52,040
Speaker 1: anything that not only they hit on the picks, some

704
00:37:52,080 --> 00:37:54,400
Speaker 1: of those picks have a chance to be stars. And

705
00:37:54,480 --> 00:37:56,880
Speaker 1: part of it also is when you make a trade

706
00:37:56,920 --> 00:37:59,840
Speaker 1: like that, sometimes you immediately kind of tank that season.

707
00:38:00,960 --> 00:38:03,600
Speaker 1: And that led Dayden Hutchinson, right. You know the problem

708
00:38:03,640 --> 00:38:05,640
Speaker 1: for the Raiders when they traded Khalil Mack, it helped

709
00:38:05,640 --> 00:38:09,279
Speaker 1: tank their season. They drafted Kleland Ferrell, then they draft

710
00:38:09,320 --> 00:38:11,240
Speaker 1: some other guys who are no longer on the team.

711
00:38:11,520 --> 00:38:15,200
Speaker 1: So when you make that trade to build a team

712
00:38:15,239 --> 00:38:17,279
Speaker 1: from scratch, you gotta have a coach, and you gotta

713
00:38:17,320 --> 00:38:20,080
Speaker 1: have a quarterback and obviously, both those guys will be

714
00:38:20,160 --> 00:38:22,839
Speaker 1: Jared Goff has had a pretty damn good career now

715
00:38:23,040 --> 00:38:25,160
Speaker 1: right in Dan Campbell, you gotta make the playoffs a

716
00:38:25,200 --> 00:38:27,200
Speaker 1: couple times before we call you a high end coach,

717
00:38:27,520 --> 00:38:29,160
Speaker 1: but he's gonna make the playoffs this year. Like the

718
00:38:29,160 --> 00:38:31,600
Speaker 1: Lions are a lock. I mean, it would take multiple

719
00:38:31,680 --> 00:38:35,000
Speaker 1: devastating injuries for them not to win that division. And

720
00:38:35,080 --> 00:38:37,640
Speaker 1: let's face it, if they're relatively healthy in the playoffs,

721
00:38:37,800 --> 00:38:40,799
Speaker 1: they're gonna be favored in the first round more than likely.

722
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Speaker 1: I guess they could be anywhere from the one to

723
00:38:42,760 --> 00:38:45,520
Speaker 1: three seed because it's pretty clear the South is gonna

724
00:38:45,560 --> 00:38:48,040
Speaker 1: be the four seed. But they're gonna be favorite in

725
00:38:48,040 --> 00:38:50,600
Speaker 1: the playoffs, I'll promise you that. So hat tip to

726
00:38:50,640 --> 00:38:54,200
Speaker 1: the Lions. Fun team to watch, I mean, just exciting

727
00:38:54,239 --> 00:38:58,320
Speaker 1: young players. I always lean with physical football teams. This

728
00:38:58,400 --> 00:39:02,520
Speaker 1: is a fun story, man, because they're just that franchise that,

729
00:39:02,800 --> 00:39:05,200
Speaker 1: let's face it, everyone kind of makes fun of who

730
00:39:05,280 --> 00:39:09,160
Speaker 1: just consistently sucks, who have had some really special players

731
00:39:09,200 --> 00:39:11,160
Speaker 1: over the years but have never been able to put

732
00:39:11,200 --> 00:39:13,520
Speaker 1: it together as a team. And now what they have

733
00:39:13,719 --> 00:39:16,040
Speaker 1: doesn't really feel like a flash in the pan, right

734
00:39:16,040 --> 00:39:18,719
Speaker 1: They had some teams with Stafford that would like have

735
00:39:18,800 --> 00:39:20,920
Speaker 1: a really good year and then it wouldn't translate to

736
00:39:20,920 --> 00:39:23,600
Speaker 1: the next year. It feels like this thing is sustainable.

737
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Speaker 1: And I think the other big picture thing you have

738
00:39:25,640 --> 00:39:29,120
Speaker 1: to start asking yourself the extend Jared Goff, Like, would

739
00:39:29,160 --> 00:39:32,160
Speaker 1: Jared Goff take you know, like three years, one hundred

740
00:39:32,200 --> 00:39:35,160
Speaker 1: million dollars, guarantee every penny something like that. I think

741
00:39:35,200 --> 00:39:40,440
Speaker 1: you have to think about doing that right now, because listen,

742
00:39:40,680 --> 00:39:43,000
Speaker 1: it's not like he's thirty eight years old and you

743
00:39:43,040 --> 00:39:45,080
Speaker 1: look at the other quarterbacks in your conference. You look

744
00:39:45,080 --> 00:39:47,080
Speaker 1: at the other quarterbacks in your division. Kirk Cousin's going

745
00:39:47,120 --> 00:39:49,880
Speaker 1: to be gone. A lot of question marks with fields,

746
00:39:50,360 --> 00:39:52,960
Speaker 1: and a lot of question marks with Jordan Love. So

747
00:39:53,040 --> 00:39:55,640
Speaker 1: you get a huge advantage just keeping the consistency with

748
00:39:55,719 --> 00:39:59,439
Speaker 1: Jared Goff, and you could argue he's another five six

749
00:39:59,520 --> 00:40:01,840
Speaker 1: games away from sustaining this from kind of proving that

750
00:40:01,880 --> 00:40:03,719
Speaker 1: this is kind of who he is, especially when you

751
00:40:03,719 --> 00:40:05,880
Speaker 1: factor in the guys around him. So and it's not

752
00:40:05,960 --> 00:40:08,560
Speaker 1: like he makes he's on a rookie contract. Now, now

753
00:40:08,600 --> 00:40:09,880
Speaker 1: you might you have to give him a little bit

754
00:40:09,920 --> 00:40:12,399
Speaker 1: of a raise, but it could get complicated I'm sure

755
00:40:12,400 --> 00:40:14,879
Speaker 1: he'd want like forty five million dollars a year if

756
00:40:14,920 --> 00:40:17,600
Speaker 1: he's smart, everything's going well, and listen, I'm never one

757
00:40:17,719 --> 00:40:20,080
Speaker 1: to tell a guy to take less money. I googled

758
00:40:20,120 --> 00:40:21,840
Speaker 1: today he's made one hundred and thirty million dollars in

759
00:40:21,880 --> 00:40:23,880
Speaker 1: his career. So if they'd give him three years one

760
00:40:23,920 --> 00:40:25,719
Speaker 1: hundred million dollars on top of it, I mean, you're

761
00:40:25,719 --> 00:40:27,839
Speaker 1: talking about a guy when the dust Settle is gonna

762
00:40:27,800 --> 00:40:30,759
Speaker 1: make two hundred and fifty million dollars playing NFL football, right,

763
00:40:31,360 --> 00:40:34,399
Speaker 1: So I think you have to entertain this because he's

764
00:40:34,400 --> 00:40:37,840
Speaker 1: in a really good situation. The team likes him, and

765
00:40:37,880 --> 00:40:40,880
Speaker 1: they're set up to be good for a while. Props

766
00:40:40,880 --> 00:40:43,640
Speaker 1: to the Jets, you know Robert Salas saying after the

767
00:40:43,680 --> 00:40:46,520
Speaker 1: game that they've embarrassed quarterbacks, like let's pump the brakes.

768
00:40:46,560 --> 00:40:49,880
Speaker 1: You've played fucking like Mac Jones, like let's let's let's

769
00:40:49,880 --> 00:40:54,280
Speaker 1: slow down a little bit, right, But you know, Jalen

770
00:40:54,320 --> 00:40:57,440
Speaker 1: Hurts was awful. Now you get a little credit for that,

771
00:40:57,600 --> 00:41:00,440
Speaker 1: but did you embarra it? I guess Josh was off.

772
00:41:00,640 --> 00:41:04,080
Speaker 1: You did embarrass a couple MVP level quarterbacks, but you

773
00:41:04,120 --> 00:41:06,319
Speaker 1: lost to Mac Jones. So let's let's pump the brakes

774
00:41:06,360 --> 00:41:08,840
Speaker 1: a little bit. But you could have waved the white flag.

775
00:41:09,320 --> 00:41:11,440
Speaker 1: You showed a lot of metal, you showed a lot

776
00:41:11,440 --> 00:41:15,480
Speaker 1: of heart because after that moment on Monday Night Football,

777
00:41:16,560 --> 00:41:18,960
Speaker 1: it was on the table that this team just unravels.

778
00:41:19,360 --> 00:41:23,319
Speaker 1: Unraveling was right in front of them. And somehow I

779
00:41:23,360 --> 00:41:28,239
Speaker 1: was thinking a lot about this with Belichick. Is Belichick's

780
00:41:28,239 --> 00:41:33,000
Speaker 1: a very angry curmudgeon, just kind of surly dude. That's

781
00:41:33,040 --> 00:41:36,640
Speaker 1: his that's his makeup. And you know, Parcels was the

782
00:41:36,680 --> 00:41:39,080
Speaker 1: same way, and that used to really work in the NFL,

783
00:41:39,480 --> 00:41:41,760
Speaker 1: and I think it can work when you're winning. Saban

784
00:41:41,800 --> 00:41:43,440
Speaker 1: can kind of be like that too. It doesn't mean

785
00:41:43,520 --> 00:41:47,520
Speaker 1: he doesn't crack jokes and shit, but his natural inclination

786
00:41:47,880 --> 00:41:50,839
Speaker 1: in terms of his attitude is gonna be dark like.

787
00:41:50,840 --> 00:41:53,400
Speaker 1: It's why he's always fit right in the Northeast. Just

788
00:41:53,520 --> 00:41:56,760
Speaker 1: he's a surly individual. Well, when you're losing and you suck,

789
00:41:57,280 --> 00:41:59,680
Speaker 1: what a miserable fucking place to be. I mean I

790
00:41:59,680 --> 00:42:02,359
Speaker 1: always always told it was miserable to be there when

791
00:42:02,360 --> 00:42:06,560
Speaker 1: they were winning. Now they're losing in historic fashion for

792
00:42:06,760 --> 00:42:10,120
Speaker 1: relative to him, he's only eight losses away from being

793
00:42:10,160 --> 00:42:12,360
Speaker 1: the all time losing coach. But it's just what a

794
00:42:12,400 --> 00:42:16,520
Speaker 1: negative place. And I do think there's something in Robert Sala.

795
00:42:17,160 --> 00:42:19,560
Speaker 1: He's kind of an uplifter and listen, I don't always

796
00:42:19,560 --> 00:42:21,600
Speaker 1: have to agree or even what he's saying can be

797
00:42:21,680 --> 00:42:24,680
Speaker 1: kind of made up, but he's positive. And I think

798
00:42:24,719 --> 00:42:27,399
Speaker 1: when you go through the shit in twenty twenty three,

799
00:42:27,560 --> 00:42:29,560
Speaker 1: just what the people you're dealing with. And let's face it,

800
00:42:29,600 --> 00:42:32,040
Speaker 1: twenty three year olds in twenty twenty three are a

801
00:42:32,040 --> 00:42:34,360
Speaker 1: little bit different than twenty three year olds in nineteen

802
00:42:34,400 --> 00:42:38,640
Speaker 1: eighty seven. An uplifting personality. You're seeing it with Demiko.

803
00:42:38,800 --> 00:42:43,080
Speaker 1: Both those guys are positive multipliers. Right. It's very hard

804
00:42:43,160 --> 00:42:46,160
Speaker 1: when you're super negative all the time and the team

805
00:42:46,280 --> 00:42:49,480
Speaker 1: sucks for it to be a place that no one

806
00:42:49,520 --> 00:42:51,960
Speaker 1: wants to be. And I think one thing that Robert

807
00:42:51,960 --> 00:42:55,160
Speaker 1: Sala has really brought to the table these last two years,

808
00:42:55,560 --> 00:42:58,840
Speaker 1: and they've been thrown some curveballs, it's just a positive

809
00:42:58,840 --> 00:43:03,200
Speaker 1: attitude and that's it's an underrated, I think thing in

810
00:43:03,239 --> 00:43:06,320
Speaker 1: the sport of football. But I think his positivity is

811
00:43:06,400 --> 00:43:08,640
Speaker 1: rubbing off on the team. It's clearly rubbing off on

812
00:43:08,760 --> 00:43:11,680
Speaker 1: Zach Wilson, who we can debate how good he really is,

813
00:43:12,120 --> 00:43:14,839
Speaker 1: but he clearly has improved from last season, and his

814
00:43:14,880 --> 00:43:18,880
Speaker 1: improvement has helped them just you know, they didn't really

815
00:43:18,920 --> 00:43:21,560
Speaker 1: have any other options by their own doing like that.

816
00:43:21,600 --> 00:43:24,000
Speaker 1: They chose that, but kind of keep the train on

817
00:43:24,040 --> 00:43:27,040
Speaker 1: the tracks, and now, you know, can this team you

818
00:43:27,120 --> 00:43:29,719
Speaker 1: get to ten wins? I definitely think it's on the

819
00:43:29,760 --> 00:43:35,040
Speaker 1: table a couple quarterbacks that I was thinking about it today.

820
00:43:35,520 --> 00:43:38,600
Speaker 1: There is no such thing as a bridge quarterback. There

821
00:43:38,719 --> 00:43:42,360
Speaker 1: just isn't. If you are signing a guy to a

822
00:43:42,520 --> 00:43:46,960
Speaker 1: number that in twenty twenty three is not one hundred

823
00:43:46,960 --> 00:43:50,239
Speaker 1: and fifty million dollars, but you're paying, you're getting a

824
00:43:50,239 --> 00:43:53,840
Speaker 1: starting quarterback. That guy is gonna have major flaws. Something's

825
00:43:53,880 --> 00:43:57,520
Speaker 1: gonna be way off. And when Jimmy Garoppolo was signed

826
00:43:57,520 --> 00:44:01,880
Speaker 1: by the Raiders and they gave him thirty five million dollars,

827
00:44:02,920 --> 00:44:05,200
Speaker 1: Jimmy Garoppolo is making a lot of monch. Jimmy Garoppolo

828
00:44:05,239 --> 00:44:07,640
Speaker 1: is not good. And the one thing you knew when

829
00:44:07,719 --> 00:44:10,800
Speaker 1: you signed him is Jimmy Garoppolo gets injured all the time.

830
00:44:11,160 --> 00:44:15,640
Speaker 1: He's just constantly injured. It's honestly kind of crazy how

831
00:44:15,680 --> 00:44:18,680
Speaker 1: often he gets injured. I mean this season with the Raiders,

832
00:44:18,760 --> 00:44:22,800
Speaker 1: after not passing a physical in March, he's had a concussion,

833
00:44:22,960 --> 00:44:26,360
Speaker 1: missed a game, and then he literally just went in

834
00:44:26,440 --> 00:44:29,040
Speaker 1: an ambulance to the hospital in the middle of the game.

835
00:44:29,719 --> 00:44:32,960
Speaker 1: It's not even Halloween. Missed a game, been to the

836
00:44:32,960 --> 00:44:35,319
Speaker 1: hospital for a separate injury. Like, you can't even make

837
00:44:35,360 --> 00:44:38,120
Speaker 1: it up. But this is not something that like, hey,

838
00:44:38,120 --> 00:44:41,200
Speaker 1: it's football, you never know, right, Sometimes in football there's

839
00:44:41,200 --> 00:44:42,800
Speaker 1: a guy laying there, gets carved off, has to go

840
00:44:42,840 --> 00:44:48,799
Speaker 1: to the hospital. Obviously, these injuries are somewhat random, but

841
00:44:49,280 --> 00:44:51,560
Speaker 1: you can't say that you are shocked. He has a

842
00:44:51,600 --> 00:44:55,520
Speaker 1: resume of getting injured. Now, the Raiders are a weird

843
00:44:55,560 --> 00:44:58,440
Speaker 1: team because they got Max Crosby's playing out of his mind.

844
00:44:58,840 --> 00:45:02,160
Speaker 1: DeVante Adams is just an elite player who Jimmy Garoppolo

845
00:45:02,280 --> 00:45:05,360
Speaker 1: throws so many hospital balls to him, it's crazy. DeVante

846
00:45:05,320 --> 00:45:07,720
Speaker 1: Adams hasn't gone to the hospital some of his throws.

847
00:45:08,719 --> 00:45:11,440
Speaker 1: Jimmy Garoppolos is not that good. And that's signing, Like,

848
00:45:11,520 --> 00:45:14,040
Speaker 1: you go, middlecoff, what were their other options? You just

849
00:45:14,040 --> 00:45:16,400
Speaker 1: can't sign Jimmy Garoppolo in that spot if you're the Raiders.

850
00:45:17,160 --> 00:45:21,799
Speaker 1: And while this guy. It's weird, right, Jimmy has accomplished more,

851
00:45:21,840 --> 00:45:24,799
Speaker 1: but he was with much more stable organization, and I

852
00:45:24,800 --> 00:45:27,240
Speaker 1: think earlier in his career he was a better player.

853
00:45:28,080 --> 00:45:30,640
Speaker 1: But Derek, over the course of his career one was

854
00:45:30,680 --> 00:45:34,040
Speaker 1: more durable and definitely had some higher highs as like

855
00:45:34,040 --> 00:45:38,160
Speaker 1: an individual. But the Saints gave him sixty million dollars

856
00:45:38,200 --> 00:45:43,280
Speaker 1: to sign sixty million dollars. They guaranteed sixty million dollars.

857
00:45:44,440 --> 00:45:46,600
Speaker 1: And he's a classic example of like, if there is

858
00:45:46,680 --> 00:45:49,840
Speaker 1: a free agent available, you should not give him sixty

859
00:45:49,880 --> 00:45:53,560
Speaker 1: million dollars. Something's just off because guys that you want

860
00:45:53,560 --> 00:45:56,360
Speaker 1: to be your starting quarterback never hit the free agent market.

861
00:45:56,840 --> 00:45:59,279
Speaker 1: Kirk Cousins next year might be an outlier part of it.

862
00:45:59,320 --> 00:46:02,759
Speaker 1: He's like thirty five thirty six years old. It's kind

863
00:46:02,800 --> 00:46:05,440
Speaker 1: of a unique situation because clearly he's better than Derek Carr.

864
00:46:05,880 --> 00:46:10,680
Speaker 1: But listen, I've watched Derek's career since President State. He

865
00:46:10,719 --> 00:46:15,520
Speaker 1: had some really good seasons in Oakland. His third year

866
00:46:15,600 --> 00:46:18,080
Speaker 1: where he was in the MVP conversation, he broke his ankle.

867
00:46:18,480 --> 00:46:20,560
Speaker 1: He was playing at a really high level, and honestly,

868
00:46:20,640 --> 00:46:23,360
Speaker 1: I don't think he's ever quite been the same in

869
00:46:23,440 --> 00:46:27,320
Speaker 1: terms of his pocket presence. He's just he's less willing

870
00:46:27,360 --> 00:46:30,040
Speaker 1: than he once was. That game the other day was

871
00:46:30,080 --> 00:46:33,799
Speaker 1: pretty embarrassing, It really was. The stats are the most

872
00:46:33,800 --> 00:46:36,920
Speaker 1: misleading thing I've ever seen down the stretch. Him and

873
00:46:36,960 --> 00:46:39,680
Speaker 1: the offensive coordinator should be ashamed of their effort. Like

874
00:46:39,840 --> 00:46:44,080
Speaker 1: that was for the amount of money he's making really

875
00:46:44,120 --> 00:46:47,000
Speaker 1: really low level quarterback play. He was making throws that

876
00:46:47,080 --> 00:46:49,800
Speaker 1: didn't have a chance if Kevin Garnett was in pats.

877
00:46:50,239 --> 00:46:53,560
Speaker 1: It was just complete waste of a play. And they

878
00:46:53,600 --> 00:46:56,520
Speaker 1: were my pick to win that game against Houston. Loved

879
00:46:56,600 --> 00:46:59,719
Speaker 1: him in that spot. I feel like an idiot because

880
00:46:59,719 --> 00:47:02,480
Speaker 1: I was like a rookie quarterback against a really good defense.

881
00:47:02,719 --> 00:47:05,759
Speaker 1: And the defense is solid, but their offense is kind

882
00:47:05,760 --> 00:47:08,160
Speaker 1: of a disaster right now, and I do not feel

883
00:47:08,160 --> 00:47:10,400
Speaker 1: good about my Saints pick making the playoffs because of

884
00:47:10,400 --> 00:47:13,120
Speaker 1: that offense. And Derek does not look right. There's no

885
00:47:13,200 --> 00:47:16,680
Speaker 1: cohesion despite having some good players right the alave pretty

886
00:47:16,680 --> 00:47:19,879
Speaker 1: exposive player, Alvin Kamara looks pretty good. Even Taysom Hill

887
00:47:19,920 --> 00:47:21,759
Speaker 1: is kind of this hybrid, kind of does some shit.

888
00:47:21,800 --> 00:47:25,600
Speaker 1: Michael Thomas servi asable player now, but man, those two

889
00:47:25,640 --> 00:47:29,160
Speaker 1: guys got to combine ninety three million dollars this offseason.

890
00:47:29,200 --> 00:47:33,600
Speaker 1: Guaranteed both of them look awful. Obviously, Jimmy's literally in

891
00:47:33,640 --> 00:47:35,919
Speaker 1: a hospital, but he was. When he's been on the field,

892
00:47:35,920 --> 00:47:37,880
Speaker 1: he has not been good. And Raider fans you know that.

893
00:47:38,719 --> 00:47:42,600
Speaker 1: And Derek has looked pedestrian at best. And you don't

894
00:47:42,600 --> 00:47:45,600
Speaker 1: give a guy sixty million dollars thinking you're gonna make

895
00:47:45,600 --> 00:47:48,880
Speaker 1: the playoffs with him to be pedestrian. I wanted to

896
00:47:48,960 --> 00:47:53,280
Speaker 1: hit on something collegiate on Saturday and several things actually,

897
00:47:53,480 --> 00:47:54,960
Speaker 1: and Colin and I hit on it a little bit

898
00:47:55,000 --> 00:47:58,720
Speaker 1: with the Seattle of the game in Seattle, Washington versus Oregon.

899
00:47:58,840 --> 00:48:01,759
Speaker 1: What a fantastic football And as someone that is going

900
00:48:01,840 --> 00:48:05,200
Speaker 1: to miss the Pac twelve, I'm glad this grand finale

901
00:48:05,600 --> 00:48:08,279
Speaker 1: of the Pac twelve season is going out with a bank.

902
00:48:08,520 --> 00:48:12,560
Speaker 1: It's been really fun. It's enjoyable to watch these two

903
00:48:12,640 --> 00:48:15,560
Speaker 1: powers really kind of kick ass and take names. Really,

904
00:48:15,560 --> 00:48:17,399
Speaker 1: both of them are the only teams that have ever

905
00:48:17,440 --> 00:48:20,040
Speaker 1: made the college football playoffs. I think Oregon did the

906
00:48:20,040 --> 00:48:22,719
Speaker 1: first year, and they won a game when Helfrich was

907
00:48:22,719 --> 00:48:25,640
Speaker 1: their coach with Mariota, they beat Jamis in Florida State

908
00:48:26,440 --> 00:48:28,239
Speaker 1: and then Washington I think made it the next year

909
00:48:28,320 --> 00:48:31,439
Speaker 1: or maybe the year after with Chris Peterson and Jake

910
00:48:31,480 --> 00:48:34,000
Speaker 1: Browning and some of those guys. So these are the

911
00:48:34,000 --> 00:48:37,480
Speaker 1: only two teams that have ever represented the West Coast

912
00:48:37,600 --> 00:48:40,399
Speaker 1: in a playoff game since they've gone from the National

913
00:48:40,480 --> 00:48:43,640
Speaker 1: Championship to the four team playoffs. So it surely looks

914
00:48:43,640 --> 00:48:45,760
Speaker 1: like one of these two teams is gonna make it again.

915
00:48:46,120 --> 00:48:50,160
Speaker 1: And obviously Washington now has the inside track. Michael Pennix

916
00:48:50,200 --> 00:48:52,920
Speaker 1: put on a show. It was not his best statistical game,

917
00:48:52,960 --> 00:48:54,319
Speaker 1: and he went through a stretch in that game where

918
00:48:54,360 --> 00:48:57,840
Speaker 1: he was struggling, he was getting peppered. It's not quite

919
00:48:57,840 --> 00:49:00,440
Speaker 1: to this level, but anyone kind of my age older,

920
00:49:00,600 --> 00:49:03,440
Speaker 1: just in my age range, you remember, and I think

921
00:49:03,480 --> 00:49:06,000
Speaker 1: it would have had to be probably my freshman year

922
00:49:06,040 --> 00:49:08,279
Speaker 1: of college, maybe my senior year in high school. Is

923
00:49:08,320 --> 00:49:12,680
Speaker 1: Byron Leftwich was in college and he like had a

924
00:49:12,719 --> 00:49:15,359
Speaker 1: high ankle sprain. He got rolled up on and had

925
00:49:15,360 --> 00:49:18,400
Speaker 1: to be carried by his offensive lineman to the huddle.

926
00:49:18,680 --> 00:49:20,160
Speaker 1: I think it was late in the game, and it

927
00:49:20,239 --> 00:49:23,320
Speaker 1: was just one of the most incredible displays of toughness

928
00:49:23,360 --> 00:49:26,160
Speaker 1: you'll ever see. And that's that's hard to you know,

929
00:49:26,320 --> 00:49:30,840
Speaker 1: simulate right, this is not gonna happen consistently. But Michael Pennix,

930
00:49:30,880 --> 00:49:32,960
Speaker 1: you could tell in the middle of the game, like

931
00:49:33,000 --> 00:49:35,960
Speaker 1: this guy might get kote, he is getting destroyed. You

932
00:49:35,960 --> 00:49:37,759
Speaker 1: could tell his ribs were hurting, he was kind of

933
00:49:37,840 --> 00:49:41,239
Speaker 1: leaning over, walking gingerly to the huddle, and he just

934
00:49:41,280 --> 00:49:43,200
Speaker 1: didn't tap out, and then he made some of his

935
00:49:43,239 --> 00:49:45,680
Speaker 1: biggest passes when he needed to the most. Now, as

936
00:49:45,719 --> 00:49:50,160
Speaker 1: a college prospect, you know, or an NFL prospect in college,

937
00:49:50,960 --> 00:49:53,520
Speaker 1: one thing that concerns me, and I think you see

938
00:49:53,560 --> 00:49:57,200
Speaker 1: it with Tua. It's he's my comp because they're both

939
00:49:57,239 --> 00:49:59,319
Speaker 1: left handed, but they both throw a beautiful deep ball.

940
00:49:59,600 --> 00:50:02,520
Speaker 1: But either of them are great athletes. And I don't

941
00:50:02,520 --> 00:50:05,440
Speaker 1: know whether Pennix was a better athlete before some of

942
00:50:05,480 --> 00:50:09,000
Speaker 1: his knee injuries, but he is a pocket passer only,

943
00:50:09,680 --> 00:50:13,040
Speaker 1: and I'm less inclined to lean that way in twenty

944
00:50:13,120 --> 00:50:16,080
Speaker 1: twenty three and beyond in the NFL because every team

945
00:50:16,160 --> 00:50:18,440
Speaker 1: is all these pass rushers. I just watched the Cleveland Browns.

946
00:50:18,640 --> 00:50:20,680
Speaker 1: If you can't move it all, you're sitting duck. You're fucked.

947
00:50:21,360 --> 00:50:23,719
Speaker 1: The forty nine Ers, all these teams, the Eagles, they

948
00:50:23,760 --> 00:50:27,960
Speaker 1: will run your ass down. Aaron Donald by himself will

949
00:50:27,960 --> 00:50:30,520
Speaker 1: catch you multiple times in a football game. That's if

950
00:50:30,520 --> 00:50:33,480
Speaker 1: you're a good athlete. If you're not good luck, there's

951
00:50:33,520 --> 00:50:35,960
Speaker 1: a reasons Cousins and the Bradys and the Mannings. They

952
00:50:36,000 --> 00:50:37,319
Speaker 1: had to get rid of the ball so fast they

953
00:50:37,360 --> 00:50:40,839
Speaker 1: can't move. That's my only red flag. But in terms

954
00:50:40,880 --> 00:50:43,640
Speaker 1: of accuracy, in terms of poise, in terms of toughness,

955
00:50:43,680 --> 00:50:47,200
Speaker 1: in terms of production, in terms of just you know,

956
00:50:48,080 --> 00:50:51,560
Speaker 1: the high test. As a fan watching him play, it

957
00:50:51,600 --> 00:50:54,560
Speaker 1: doesn't get much more fun than Michael Pennox junior in

958
00:50:54,560 --> 00:50:56,520
Speaker 1: this Washington team. And I've said it for a while,

959
00:50:57,000 --> 00:50:59,680
Speaker 1: anyone in Ohio State, listen, you got a huge game

960
00:50:59,719 --> 00:51:01,840
Speaker 1: this week week against Penn State. You could easily lose.

961
00:51:02,400 --> 00:51:04,640
Speaker 1: I talked to a buddy in the NFL that thinks, Michigan,

962
00:51:04,680 --> 00:51:07,200
Speaker 1: the gap between Michigan and Ohio State this year is

963
00:51:07,320 --> 00:51:09,680
Speaker 1: dramatically bigger than it has been the last couple of years.

964
00:51:09,680 --> 00:51:11,120
Speaker 1: And this is a guy, a scout that goes into

965
00:51:11,120 --> 00:51:13,440
Speaker 1: both programs. Now, you got to play it on the field.

966
00:51:13,600 --> 00:51:17,080
Speaker 1: What matters on paper doesn't matter. But if Ohio State

967
00:51:17,160 --> 00:51:20,839
Speaker 1: gets worked again by Michigan, and I mean, last year

968
00:51:20,840 --> 00:51:23,000
Speaker 1: they lost, but they ended up making the playoffs, and then,

969
00:51:23,040 --> 00:51:25,319
Speaker 1: in a weird way, in a loss to Georgia, it

970
00:51:25,360 --> 00:51:27,520
Speaker 1: felt like Ryan Day kind of gained some respect back.

971
00:51:27,560 --> 00:51:29,520
Speaker 1: He obviously beat Notre Dame this year. If he beats

972
00:51:29,520 --> 00:51:31,600
Speaker 1: Penn State, even if you lose to Michigan, I'm not

973
00:51:31,600 --> 00:51:33,960
Speaker 1: saying the guy's gonna get fired, but you can tell

974
00:51:34,040 --> 00:51:36,399
Speaker 1: Ryan Day is just not on the status of like

975
00:51:36,880 --> 00:51:41,200
Speaker 1: getting treated like Nick Saban or Kirby Smart despite having

976
00:51:41,200 --> 00:51:44,680
Speaker 1: a very very successful record, and you lose three times

977
00:51:44,680 --> 00:51:46,680
Speaker 1: in a row to Jim Harbaugh because let's face it,

978
00:51:46,680 --> 00:51:49,279
Speaker 1: what Jim said, Bro, you were born on third base

979
00:51:49,320 --> 00:51:50,960
Speaker 1: and you think you hit a triple, there is some

980
00:51:51,080 --> 00:51:54,440
Speaker 1: element of that. They're just this. He was handed a

981
00:51:54,480 --> 00:51:59,320
Speaker 1: program that was fucking rolling with urban Meyer had become. Obviously,

982
00:51:59,400 --> 00:52:02,280
Speaker 1: Ohio State's always been good, but I mean beaten Saban

983
00:52:02,320 --> 00:52:04,239
Speaker 1: in the Natty. Now, I know that happened a couple

984
00:52:04,239 --> 00:52:08,600
Speaker 1: of years previously. But my point is the recruiting and everything,

985
00:52:08,680 --> 00:52:11,200
Speaker 1: and obviously Ryan Day knows what it looks like on offense,

986
00:52:11,239 --> 00:52:15,239
Speaker 1: but we'll see the expectations at Ohio State are no

987
00:52:15,320 --> 00:52:19,759
Speaker 1: different than Alabama, Georgia or usc like the moment you

988
00:52:19,800 --> 00:52:23,000
Speaker 1: don't win and win big and I mean like compete

989
00:52:23,040 --> 00:52:25,759
Speaker 1: to win natties, you're in trouble. So I've already got

990
00:52:25,800 --> 00:52:30,080
Speaker 1: Lincoln Red Flagg Lincoln. If you can't recruit defense, this

991
00:52:30,160 --> 00:52:33,480
Speaker 1: ain't gonna last long. You're not gonna win national championships.

992
00:52:33,600 --> 00:52:36,080
Speaker 1: You're gonna have no chance to win national championships. And

993
00:52:36,120 --> 00:52:38,239
Speaker 1: they gave you one hundred and twenty million dollars to

994
00:52:38,440 --> 00:52:42,759
Speaker 1: win national championships. Like when mel Tucker before he was

995
00:52:42,840 --> 00:52:45,880
Speaker 1: doing who knows what on a phone call with you know,

996
00:52:45,920 --> 00:52:49,440
Speaker 1: even though it was consensual, more absolute fucking moron, Like,

997
00:52:49,480 --> 00:52:51,439
Speaker 1: that's not who you date when you're the football coach.

998
00:52:51,480 --> 00:52:53,920
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, not the lady who's coming to your program

999
00:52:54,560 --> 00:52:58,160
Speaker 1: as a rape victim. That's just you deserve. There's an

1000
00:52:58,200 --> 00:53:01,960
Speaker 1: idiot tacks there. You're getting taxed with your contract. But

1001
00:53:02,080 --> 00:53:05,040
Speaker 1: Meltucker was not signed ninety million dollars to win national

1002
00:53:05,120 --> 00:53:08,040
Speaker 1: championships in Michigan State. Let's face it, Meltucker was signed

1003
00:53:08,040 --> 00:53:10,200
Speaker 1: a nine million dollars to go like nine to three,

1004
00:53:10,600 --> 00:53:12,279
Speaker 1: maybe a ten win season every once in a while.

1005
00:53:12,280 --> 00:53:14,720
Speaker 1: That'd be fine, make everyone a bunch of money. Everyone

1006
00:53:14,760 --> 00:53:17,600
Speaker 1: would be good at Michigan, at Ohio State, at Georgia,

1007
00:53:18,000 --> 00:53:22,320
Speaker 1: at LSU, at Bama, at Texas. Now even though it's

1008
00:53:22,400 --> 00:53:24,560
Speaker 1: you know, it's they haven't actually been as good as

1009
00:53:24,600 --> 00:53:27,120
Speaker 1: you think over like the last forty years. But they're

1010
00:53:27,160 --> 00:53:30,520
Speaker 1: paying sar USC With Lincoln, you're paid to win natties.

1011
00:53:31,000 --> 00:53:33,279
Speaker 1: Anything less than competing to win natties, it's a red

1012
00:53:33,280 --> 00:53:36,839
Speaker 1: flat in Kayleb du boor he gets to he gets

1013
00:53:36,960 --> 00:53:39,200
Speaker 1: Washington to the playoffs, maybe they win a playoff game,

1014
00:53:39,560 --> 00:53:42,560
Speaker 1: They're going to the Big Ten. I could see it

1015
00:53:42,600 --> 00:53:45,799
Speaker 1: man two thousand at the end of the next year.

1016
00:53:46,080 --> 00:53:47,919
Speaker 1: That's just something to keep an eye on. Already got

1017
00:53:47,920 --> 00:53:52,960
Speaker 1: that my way too early, you know, coach potential jump ship.

1018
00:53:53,960 --> 00:53:58,120
Speaker 1: Kleb objectively is worst game as a collegiate player. He

1019
00:53:58,239 --> 00:54:00,840
Speaker 1: was terrible. Like if you just watch that game and

1020
00:54:00,960 --> 00:54:03,680
Speaker 1: didn't know anything and didn't know this guy was talked

1021
00:54:03,680 --> 00:54:05,680
Speaker 1: about as the number one pick last year, would have

1022
00:54:05,719 --> 00:54:07,560
Speaker 1: been the number one pick in the draft. He'd be

1023
00:54:07,600 --> 00:54:10,880
Speaker 1: like us. He has a terrible quarterback. He was beyond awful.

1024
00:54:11,160 --> 00:54:14,120
Speaker 1: He's human. Tom Brady had bad games, Payton Manning had

1025
00:54:14,160 --> 00:54:17,520
Speaker 1: bad games, Aaron Rodgers had bad games like you're allowed

1026
00:54:17,520 --> 00:54:21,640
Speaker 1: to have bad games sports, like you know, Ted Williams

1027
00:54:21,640 --> 00:54:23,120
Speaker 1: didn't get a hit every time he came to bad

1028
00:54:23,600 --> 00:54:25,879
Speaker 1: Tiger Woods didn't break par every single time he played

1029
00:54:25,880 --> 00:54:29,359
Speaker 1: eighteen holes. But it is something I will say this.

1030
00:54:30,239 --> 00:54:33,560
Speaker 1: I'm not I wouldn't change my rankings based on one game,

1031
00:54:34,360 --> 00:54:36,040
Speaker 1: but it is something to keep an eye on. And

1032
00:54:36,080 --> 00:54:38,840
Speaker 1: I've said this season, unlike his previous twos, like everything

1033
00:54:38,840 --> 00:54:41,040
Speaker 1: came pretty easy the first two years, this year's a

1034
00:54:41,040 --> 00:54:43,640
Speaker 1: little harder. And he earned a lot of credit in

1035
00:54:43,680 --> 00:54:46,520
Speaker 1: my eyes. In the Arizona game. His team was down,

1036
00:54:46,640 --> 00:54:50,120
Speaker 1: his defense sucked, he had to single handedly carries his

1037
00:54:50,160 --> 00:54:52,359
Speaker 1: team to victory, and Arizona's probably a seven to eight

1038
00:54:52,400 --> 00:54:55,240
Speaker 1: win team that was That was a good win for USC,

1039
00:54:55,440 --> 00:54:57,960
Speaker 1: but it was It was one of the most impressive

1040
00:54:58,040 --> 00:55:02,640
Speaker 1: performances given the stakes for Caleb Williams. Whatever, you're allowed

1041
00:55:02,640 --> 00:55:05,160
Speaker 1: a bad game. Andrew Luck had bad games, Trevor Lawrence

1042
00:55:05,200 --> 00:55:08,520
Speaker 1: had bad games. To me though, the next stretch of

1043
00:55:08,560 --> 00:55:12,040
Speaker 1: the season, I am looking at because clearly this team

1044
00:55:12,120 --> 00:55:13,719
Speaker 1: is not as good as we thought it was gonna be,

1045
00:55:14,200 --> 00:55:17,520
Speaker 1: meaning things are gonna be harder, and I like evaluating

1046
00:55:17,600 --> 00:55:21,000
Speaker 1: quarterbacks when shit's kind of hard because in the NFL

1047
00:55:21,360 --> 00:55:24,080
Speaker 1: it ain't easy. You don't get to just blow everyone

1048
00:55:24,160 --> 00:55:27,680
Speaker 1: out fifty sixty to nothing. It's why so many quarterbacks

1049
00:55:27,719 --> 00:55:30,839
Speaker 1: at the elite programs have busted in the NFL. Now,

1050
00:55:30,880 --> 00:55:35,120
Speaker 1: Caleb's physical characteristics, his athleticism, his arm strength, his accuracy,

1051
00:55:35,200 --> 00:55:38,680
Speaker 1: is playmaking, all translate. But he plays Utah this week.

1052
00:55:39,000 --> 00:55:43,000
Speaker 1: He just got worked by Notre Dame Utah's defenses. Every

1053
00:55:43,040 --> 00:55:46,160
Speaker 1: bit is good, if not better. Utah beat him twice.

1054
00:55:46,280 --> 00:55:50,160
Speaker 1: Last year. On his nails, he wrote fuck Utah, which

1055
00:55:50,239 --> 00:55:53,200
Speaker 1: was moronic, and then got worked in the PAC twelfth championship,

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00:55:53,280 --> 00:55:54,879
Speaker 1: Like what does he look like this season? Because I'll

1057
00:55:54,880 --> 00:55:58,720
Speaker 1: promise you this, Kyle Whittingham, kind of a throwback coach

1058
00:55:59,040 --> 00:56:02,120
Speaker 1: in college, is one of those guys. The moment Lincoln

1059
00:56:02,160 --> 00:56:05,440
Speaker 1: Riley got one hundred and twenty million dollars and everybody,

1060
00:56:05,480 --> 00:56:08,360
Speaker 1: including myself, was giving him a reach around and the

1061
00:56:08,440 --> 00:56:10,880
Speaker 1: hype job like this is gonna be incredible for USC

1062
00:56:11,320 --> 00:56:13,960
Speaker 1: beat him twice, and I'll promise you every time the

1063
00:56:14,000 --> 00:56:16,800
Speaker 1: schedule comes out, obviously they're going their separate ways. Utah's

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00:56:16,840 --> 00:56:19,440
Speaker 1: going to the Big twelve and SE's going to the

1065
00:56:19,480 --> 00:56:22,880
Speaker 1: Big ten he circles this fucking game. He's a defensive coach.

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00:56:23,080 --> 00:56:25,799
Speaker 1: Everyone acts like Lincoln and Caleb are the best thing

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00:56:25,840 --> 00:56:28,120
Speaker 1: that ever happened to offensive football. He's gonna want to

1068
00:56:28,239 --> 00:56:30,920
Speaker 1: kick the shit out of him. He's been game planning

1069
00:56:30,960 --> 00:56:33,840
Speaker 1: for this game since the summer. I'll promise you that,

1070
00:56:34,320 --> 00:56:36,560
Speaker 1: so I can't wait to watch. But it's not just

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00:56:36,600 --> 00:56:43,000
Speaker 1: this game. USC finishes their season Washington at home at

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00:56:43,000 --> 00:56:47,200
Speaker 1: Oregon and then against UCLA and UCLA this year. Their

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00:56:47,239 --> 00:56:52,520
Speaker 1: defensive coordinator is Anthony Lynn's son. Their defense is good,

1074
00:56:52,680 --> 00:56:55,920
Speaker 1: like UCLA, who just got worked by Oregon State, who's

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00:56:56,000 --> 00:56:59,279
Speaker 1: also good. Is UCLA's good and listen, I'm not the

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00:56:59,280 --> 00:57:02,680
Speaker 1: bigges Chip Kelly guy, but defensively Ucla is good. They

1077
00:57:02,680 --> 00:57:05,680
Speaker 1: got a five star true freshman quarterback who's going through

1078
00:57:05,719 --> 00:57:09,239
Speaker 1: some growing pains. I've always thought Jonathan Smith at Oregon State,

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00:57:09,640 --> 00:57:12,040
Speaker 1: I'd fire Chip, I'd hire Jonathan Smith if I was

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00:57:12,120 --> 00:57:14,799
Speaker 1: UCLA going to going to the Big Ten. But that's

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00:57:14,800 --> 00:57:17,880
Speaker 1: a conversation for another time. I do think that Caleb's

1082
00:57:17,920 --> 00:57:20,600
Speaker 1: got some very very tough tests coming up, and as

1083
00:57:20,640 --> 00:57:24,880
Speaker 1: an evaluator, like I listen, you call me crazy or whatever,

1084
00:57:24,920 --> 00:57:27,760
Speaker 1: this is not necessarily my opinion, I haven't studied Drake

1085
00:57:27,800 --> 00:57:29,640
Speaker 1: May enough. Like I'm sorry, I'm not watching that much

1086
00:57:29,680 --> 00:57:32,400
Speaker 1: North Carolina football. I do know some people that think,

1087
00:57:32,440 --> 00:57:34,760
Speaker 1: not only is the gap closer than the way the

1088
00:57:34,800 --> 00:57:38,040
Speaker 1: media talks about it, that some people think Drake May,

1089
00:57:38,400 --> 00:57:40,120
Speaker 1: you know, he's six ' four, he's a good athlete,

1090
00:57:40,120 --> 00:57:43,360
Speaker 1: he's two thirty, he's obviously a sweet player, does have

1091
00:57:43,400 --> 00:57:45,920
Speaker 1: a chance to go number one, And these evaluations in

1092
00:57:45,960 --> 00:57:49,520
Speaker 1: these biggest games, if Caleb's gonna come down a peg,

1093
00:57:50,080 --> 00:57:52,840
Speaker 1: it's gonna be struggling against the best teams, because that's

1094
00:57:52,960 --> 00:57:56,880
Speaker 1: real football. You don't you don't just play for whoever

1095
00:57:57,320 --> 00:57:59,760
Speaker 1: and then just everything's easy in the pros. That's not

1096
00:57:59,800 --> 00:58:02,360
Speaker 1: how it is at all. So I'm fascinated to watch

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00:58:02,400 --> 00:58:05,400
Speaker 1: this next stretch. And I do think the Deon Sanders

1098
00:58:05,520 --> 00:58:08,960
Speaker 1: hype has come to a screeching halt. As I had

1099
00:58:09,000 --> 00:58:12,520
Speaker 1: a few cocktails on Friday night and I was paying

1100
00:58:12,560 --> 00:58:13,920
Speaker 1: I was watching a little bit of the game and

1101
00:58:14,360 --> 00:58:19,280
Speaker 1: Colorado was kicking their butt, and I've I've always enjoyed Stanford,

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00:58:19,360 --> 00:58:22,560
Speaker 1: that kind of root for him. Troy Taylor, who resurrected

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00:58:22,720 --> 00:58:28,000
Speaker 1: Sack State a perennial just dumpster fire. Operation had the

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00:58:28,000 --> 00:58:31,000
Speaker 1: best season in program history, took him to the playoffs,

1105
00:58:31,280 --> 00:58:35,680
Speaker 1: former Cal quarterback, and I was pretty dialed into that game,

1106
00:58:36,320 --> 00:58:39,760
Speaker 1: and all of a sudden, I'm getting texts people hitting

1107
00:58:39,760 --> 00:58:42,520
Speaker 1: me up, like, bro, you should turn on the Colorado game.

1108
00:58:42,840 --> 00:58:46,920
Speaker 1: And they came storming back. Shoudor's numbers look pretty good.

1109
00:58:46,960 --> 00:58:49,960
Speaker 1: He threw five touchdowns. I thought he missed some pretty

1110
00:58:50,000 --> 00:58:54,080
Speaker 1: easy bunnies, some layup throws at that level that honestly

1111
00:58:54,120 --> 00:58:56,400
Speaker 1: weren't that close. Didn't play that well down the stretch.

1112
00:58:56,600 --> 00:58:59,920
Speaker 1: But let's face it, their best player is Travis Hunter,

1113
00:59:00,320 --> 00:59:04,360
Speaker 1: who has to just be completely gassed. I mean he's

1114
00:59:04,400 --> 00:59:07,840
Speaker 1: playing both ways. He missed some time. I'm not trying

1115
00:59:07,880 --> 00:59:10,920
Speaker 1: to make excuses for him, but he was getting destroyed

1116
00:59:11,320 --> 00:59:13,480
Speaker 1: by number thirteen. I mean number thirteen had one of

1117
00:59:13,480 --> 00:59:15,880
Speaker 1: the catches of the year where he basically mossed it

1118
00:59:15,920 --> 00:59:18,320
Speaker 1: over his back, carried him the last five yards in

1119
00:59:18,360 --> 00:59:20,480
Speaker 1: the end zone. If Travis Hunter is gonna get lit

1120
00:59:20,560 --> 00:59:24,320
Speaker 1: up on defense, Colorado sucks, right. If Travis Hunter is

1121
00:59:24,320 --> 00:59:26,560
Speaker 1: gonna make plays, Chador's gonna play well. They have a

1122
00:59:26,680 --> 00:59:30,160
Speaker 1: chance to win games. But their schedule also gets very difficult,

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Speaker 1: Like they start playing the Utahs, the UCLA's, the Oregon

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00:59:34,040 --> 00:59:37,840
Speaker 1: States like it's USC. I guess they already played USC.

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Speaker 1: It's gonna get a lot more difficult. I think they

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00:59:39,880 --> 00:59:42,240
Speaker 1: play Arizona in a couple of weeks, who just destroyed

1127
00:59:42,360 --> 00:59:45,560
Speaker 1: Washington State. So it's gonna be interesting to watch Colorado,

1128
00:59:45,560 --> 00:59:50,120
Speaker 1: who the interest early on they were winning. Listen primetime.

1129
00:59:50,280 --> 00:59:52,800
Speaker 1: Can be as swaggy as he wants. He's one of

1130
00:59:52,840 --> 00:59:57,280
Speaker 1: the greatest sportsmen we've ever seen. The dude played in

1131
00:59:57,320 --> 00:59:59,760
Speaker 1: a World Series while he was the best cornerback in

1132
00:59:59,760 --> 01:00:02,560
Speaker 1: the NFL. Can you imagine someone doing that? Can you

1133
01:00:02,720 --> 01:00:07,680
Speaker 1: imagine anyone in the NFL sniffing a fastball from Justin Verlander.

1134
01:00:07,840 --> 01:00:09,880
Speaker 1: I don't think there's one dude in the NFL who

1135
01:00:09,960 --> 01:00:13,040
Speaker 1: get fucking bat on ball. Half of them probably couldn't

1136
01:00:13,040 --> 01:00:15,120
Speaker 1: even catch a ball in the outfield, steal a base,

1137
01:00:15,160 --> 01:00:17,520
Speaker 1: no chance to spite some of the great athletes. So

1138
01:00:17,760 --> 01:00:20,240
Speaker 1: what Dion as a player speaks for itself, and obviously

1139
01:00:20,280 --> 01:00:22,680
Speaker 1: as a coach, he's been very successful, but sometimes his

1140
01:00:22,760 --> 01:00:25,920
Speaker 1: swag like their team isn't good enough. It's just not

1141
01:00:26,120 --> 01:00:29,520
Speaker 1: And Travis Hunter in a vacuum is. But the rest

1142
01:00:29,520 --> 01:00:32,000
Speaker 1: of the guys, like you got a lot of guys

1143
01:00:32,000 --> 01:00:34,960
Speaker 1: acting like they're playing at Ohio State or Michigan. It's like, bro,

1144
01:00:35,040 --> 01:00:39,720
Speaker 1: you're you're a fringe Power five guy probably, And you know,

1145
01:00:39,760 --> 01:00:41,560
Speaker 1: Dion set himself up for this a little bit too,

1146
01:00:41,600 --> 01:00:43,760
Speaker 1: like you better get us now, you're getting got now.

1147
01:00:44,560 --> 01:00:47,080
Speaker 1: And you know, some people think it's it could be

1148
01:00:47,120 --> 01:00:49,720
Speaker 1: difficult for them to win another game. I think if

1149
01:00:49,720 --> 01:00:53,280
Speaker 1: you objectively look at their schedule, more than likely they're

1150
01:00:53,360 --> 01:00:56,120
Speaker 1: probably fight, especially if you know their guys are gonna

1151
01:00:56,160 --> 01:00:58,000
Speaker 1: be gassed if they're not gonna play at the high level,

1152
01:00:58,080 --> 01:01:00,640
Speaker 1: which they did early in the season. I even seven

1153
01:01:00,720 --> 01:01:02,720
Speaker 1: is on the table. They're four and three right now.

1154
01:01:03,320 --> 01:01:04,840
Speaker 1: I talk a couple of people think, you know, they

1155
01:01:04,880 --> 01:01:07,760
Speaker 1: might not win another game, and if that's the case,

1156
01:01:09,280 --> 01:01:13,120
Speaker 1: just be a hard look. Regardless of most people thought

1157
01:01:13,160 --> 01:01:15,920
Speaker 1: they were like a one win team, a three win team,

1158
01:01:17,120 --> 01:01:20,200
Speaker 1: you don't win another game. I wouldn't call this you're

1159
01:01:20,240 --> 01:01:24,400
Speaker 1: a failure given the ratings, the hype, all that stuff,

1160
01:01:25,400 --> 01:01:28,400
Speaker 1: But in terms on the field, I think anything less

1161
01:01:28,400 --> 01:01:32,360
Speaker 1: than a bull bid would be pretty devastating for prime time.

1162
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Speaker 1: full season. Get it before it's gone at John Middlecoff

1178
01:02:32,480 --> 01:02:35,000
Speaker 1: is the Instagram fire in those dms. Get your question

1179
01:02:35,160 --> 01:02:38,600
Speaker 1: answered here on the show. This is not a question,

1180
01:02:38,680 --> 01:02:42,920
Speaker 1: but please read it on the show. This guy's basically

1181
01:02:43,040 --> 01:02:46,920
Speaker 1: just calling Dennis Allen the worst coach in the league

1182
01:02:47,320 --> 01:02:49,840
Speaker 1: and wants to know how anyone in an NFL front

1183
01:02:49,880 --> 01:02:53,040
Speaker 1: office can hire this clown. He said that, not me

1184
01:02:53,560 --> 01:02:57,720
Speaker 1: to run their team. Now, I picked this team to

1185
01:02:57,760 --> 01:03:00,880
Speaker 1: win the division, and I thought that they could overcome

1186
01:03:00,960 --> 01:03:03,160
Speaker 1: Like I don't think Dennis Allen's some star coach. Thought

1187
01:03:03,200 --> 01:03:05,560
Speaker 1: their roster would be good enough and the division for

1188
01:03:05,600 --> 01:03:10,760
Speaker 1: them to cruise cruise to like eleven wins, and it's

1189
01:03:10,800 --> 01:03:13,040
Speaker 1: clearly going to be very, very difficult for them to

1190
01:03:13,040 --> 01:03:16,200
Speaker 1: get to ten, right, And they, by no means our

1191
01:03:16,560 --> 01:03:18,960
Speaker 1: shoe win to win the division. Could see them at

1192
01:03:19,000 --> 01:03:21,360
Speaker 1: like eight to nine and maybe Tampa goes nine and eight,

1193
01:03:21,400 --> 01:03:23,919
Speaker 1: maybe they win the division eight nine. But I will

1194
01:03:23,920 --> 01:03:25,720
Speaker 1: say this, we talked about it a little bit earlier.

1195
01:03:26,960 --> 01:03:29,040
Speaker 1: Just because you're a head coach in the NFL or

1196
01:03:29,040 --> 01:03:32,480
Speaker 1: in college does not mean you know what's going on

1197
01:03:32,480 --> 01:03:34,360
Speaker 1: on the other side of the ball. If I had

1198
01:03:34,360 --> 01:03:38,240
Speaker 1: to bet right now, does Dennis Allen know the offensive playbook?

1199
01:03:38,400 --> 01:03:41,600
Speaker 1: I would say no. Does he know offensive plays they run?

1200
01:03:41,760 --> 01:03:44,400
Speaker 1: Of course? Does he know the entire playbook and on

1201
01:03:44,440 --> 01:03:48,120
Speaker 1: a weekly basis the offensive game plan? You know? Like

1202
01:03:48,200 --> 01:03:50,680
Speaker 1: he would Is he when he's the defensive coordinator or

1203
01:03:50,720 --> 01:03:54,040
Speaker 1: just the defense in general? Zero chance. Now he's the

1204
01:03:54,080 --> 01:03:57,000
Speaker 1: head coach. He's the boss. Everything that happens on the team,

1205
01:03:57,080 --> 01:04:02,000
Speaker 1: special teams, offense, defense, player wise is his responsibility. That's

1206
01:04:02,360 --> 01:04:05,800
Speaker 1: your role as the head coach. But the failure so far,

1207
01:04:05,840 --> 01:04:07,920
Speaker 1: and I've watched a lot of the Saints, just because

1208
01:04:08,240 --> 01:04:12,400
Speaker 1: I've watched Derek's career, He's been terrible. He just has

1209
01:04:12,640 --> 01:04:15,480
Speaker 1: and the offensive coordinator and Derek, to me, get the

1210
01:04:15,480 --> 01:04:19,920
Speaker 1: blame for that situation. Obviously Dennis Allen does too. But

1211
01:04:20,880 --> 01:04:23,040
Speaker 1: their defense is playing pretty good, and to me, he

1212
01:04:23,120 --> 01:04:26,480
Speaker 1: has his imprint all over the defense. Offensively, they're an embarrassment.

1213
01:04:26,520 --> 01:04:28,960
Speaker 1: Now he's banging the table for them to give Derek

1214
01:04:29,000 --> 01:04:32,160
Speaker 1: the money. Derek has to be better, he just simply does.

1215
01:04:32,880 --> 01:04:35,320
Speaker 1: This is kind of a meta question, if you will,

1216
01:04:35,880 --> 01:04:39,680
Speaker 1: is football specifically the NFL, but to a lesser degree

1217
01:04:39,720 --> 01:04:43,040
Speaker 1: college too. On the back nine as far as quality

1218
01:04:43,040 --> 01:04:46,560
Speaker 1: of product, Don't get me wrong, my personal interest has

1219
01:04:46,640 --> 01:04:50,040
Speaker 1: never been higher, maybe even more with betting and fantasy.

1220
01:04:50,440 --> 01:04:53,520
Speaker 1: But that raised another question for me. Are we just

1221
01:04:53,640 --> 01:04:57,960
Speaker 1: being oversaturated with marketing, betting, fantasy, cross promotion Like Taylor Swift?

1222
01:04:58,560 --> 01:05:00,880
Speaker 1: I know the answer in the world as a whole

1223
01:05:00,960 --> 01:05:03,400
Speaker 1: is yes, But in my opinion, the on the field

1224
01:05:03,400 --> 01:05:07,680
Speaker 1: product is suffering. It's almost become so secondary to another

1225
01:05:07,760 --> 01:05:11,880
Speaker 1: dumbass CBS promo. I feel like we have never got

1226
01:05:11,960 --> 01:05:14,640
Speaker 1: back to the level we were at, like right before

1227
01:05:14,720 --> 01:05:17,880
Speaker 1: the pandemic years. I know, I've heard you say before

1228
01:05:18,320 --> 01:05:20,800
Speaker 1: and now time to get while the getting is good,

1229
01:05:21,200 --> 01:05:23,240
Speaker 1: and this sport won't be around in one hundred years.

1230
01:05:23,960 --> 01:05:27,160
Speaker 1: It's not life or death. But it's not overstating to

1231
01:05:27,200 --> 01:05:31,600
Speaker 1: say society is better with good football. I think there

1232
01:05:31,640 --> 01:05:34,120
Speaker 1: are several elements here, and I think it gets back

1233
01:05:34,160 --> 01:05:37,960
Speaker 1: to the way the sport was collectively bargained and the

1234
01:05:38,040 --> 01:05:43,560
Speaker 1: sport I would say, it's always any profession is about money,

1235
01:05:44,200 --> 01:05:49,680
Speaker 1: but the growth of the economics exploded over the last

1236
01:05:49,760 --> 01:05:54,360
Speaker 1: fifteen plus years changed the sport forever. And when the

1237
01:05:54,400 --> 01:05:59,400
Speaker 1: players negotiated in twenty eleven, they were adamant about all

1238
01:05:59,440 --> 01:06:03,080
Speaker 1: these things like no double days, mandatory off days, no

1239
01:06:03,240 --> 01:06:06,520
Speaker 1: pads in practice, and to me, that in turn has

1240
01:06:06,600 --> 01:06:10,840
Speaker 1: hurt the product and obviously to a greater extent this

1241
01:06:11,000 --> 01:06:14,240
Speaker 1: second time around with the CBA, and I do think

1242
01:06:14,320 --> 01:06:18,760
Speaker 1: listen the lawsuits, the concussion problem. The NFL did not

1243
01:06:18,920 --> 01:06:23,560
Speaker 1: give a shit. But I'm sorry, like I never will apologize.

1244
01:06:23,600 --> 01:06:26,520
Speaker 1: Like a big reason I watch football and fell in

1245
01:06:26,520 --> 01:06:30,120
Speaker 1: love with it was the violence in football, and I

1246
01:06:30,160 --> 01:06:32,560
Speaker 1: missed that. You know, there was a hit in the

1247
01:06:32,560 --> 01:06:34,800
Speaker 1: forty nine or Browns game, which was one of the

1248
01:06:34,880 --> 01:06:37,560
Speaker 1: more physical games of the season, where the flag came

1249
01:06:37,600 --> 01:06:41,000
Speaker 1: out and Deshaun Gibson got a fifteen yard penalty for

1250
01:06:41,080 --> 01:06:44,920
Speaker 1: unnecessary roughness. It couldn't have been a cleaner hit. But

1251
01:06:45,560 --> 01:06:51,240
Speaker 1: these referees lean to throw the flag. It infuriates me

1252
01:06:51,880 --> 01:06:55,000
Speaker 1: that a player in college who leads with his helmet

1253
01:06:55,480 --> 01:06:58,480
Speaker 1: In twenty twenty three, no one's trying to injure anybody anymore.

1254
01:06:58,560 --> 01:07:01,800
Speaker 1: Those days are over, like the John Lynch Steve Atwater

1255
01:07:01,920 --> 01:07:06,080
Speaker 1: days of literally trying to crack your neck. They've been

1256
01:07:06,120 --> 01:07:09,160
Speaker 1: coached out of the league. So yeah, we have some plays,

1257
01:07:09,560 --> 01:07:13,160
Speaker 1: these bang bang plays where it's you know, maybe crossing

1258
01:07:13,200 --> 01:07:16,080
Speaker 1: the line, but these guys are not doing it maliciously anymore.

1259
01:07:16,640 --> 01:07:19,920
Speaker 1: They're just not So when you throw a collegiate player

1260
01:07:19,960 --> 01:07:22,080
Speaker 1: out of the game, we've all seen the stats. A

1261
01:07:22,200 --> 01:07:24,760
Speaker 1: tiny percentage of guys in college will play in the pros,

1262
01:07:25,040 --> 01:07:27,160
Speaker 1: so you have a finite number of games at the

1263
01:07:27,200 --> 01:07:31,240
Speaker 1: highest level. It just fucking pisses me off to throw

1264
01:07:31,320 --> 01:07:35,400
Speaker 1: out a nineteen twenty year old for accidentally because that's

1265
01:07:35,440 --> 01:07:37,160
Speaker 1: what it is now. He is not trying to hit

1266
01:07:37,200 --> 01:07:39,640
Speaker 1: him with his helmet, and it infuriates me. But it

1267
01:07:39,680 --> 01:07:42,360
Speaker 1: all gets back to lawsuits in which I understand, like

1268
01:07:42,400 --> 01:07:45,600
Speaker 1: I'm his pro businesses anyone you're gonna find that talks

1269
01:07:45,600 --> 01:07:48,320
Speaker 1: about sports, so I get both sides. But the game

1270
01:07:48,360 --> 01:07:52,520
Speaker 1: has forever been changed, and obviously I benefit, for example,

1271
01:07:52,560 --> 01:07:55,800
Speaker 1: from the popularity of it. You know, I never in

1272
01:07:55,800 --> 01:07:58,280
Speaker 1: a million years would have thought that I'd be able

1273
01:07:58,320 --> 01:07:59,720
Speaker 1: to do this the way I'm able to do it

1274
01:07:59,760 --> 01:08:01,640
Speaker 1: and just make as much money as I'm making and

1275
01:08:01,840 --> 01:08:05,040
Speaker 1: success of the podcast and everything. But yeah, it ain't

1276
01:08:05,040 --> 01:08:08,400
Speaker 1: the same, and I won't will not apologize for missing it,

1277
01:08:09,040 --> 01:08:12,560
Speaker 1: just like I don't apologize for liking violence in boxing

1278
01:08:12,800 --> 01:08:15,800
Speaker 1: or UFC. That's an element of football. I clicked on

1279
01:08:15,960 --> 01:08:20,000
Speaker 1: Shannon and Ocho who do like their nightcap after Sunday

1280
01:08:20,080 --> 01:08:23,080
Speaker 1: night football, and both of them and I think sometimes

1281
01:08:23,160 --> 01:08:25,920
Speaker 1: it sounds like old man on a cloud, but it's

1282
01:08:25,960 --> 01:08:28,760
Speaker 1: just a fact. He's like, we would never in a

1283
01:08:28,880 --> 01:08:31,439
Speaker 1: million years in the nineties or Chad in the two

1284
01:08:31,520 --> 01:08:36,120
Speaker 1: thousands run a three step slant. Why because Ray Lewis

1285
01:08:36,120 --> 01:08:38,719
Speaker 1: would be sitting there over the middle and he would

1286
01:08:39,000 --> 01:08:42,080
Speaker 1: could end your career, could knock you out for the season.

1287
01:08:42,280 --> 01:08:45,280
Speaker 1: It's not even allowed anymore. It just isn't. So it's

1288
01:08:45,320 --> 01:08:48,599
Speaker 1: a completely different game, which they had to do to

1289
01:08:48,680 --> 01:08:52,479
Speaker 1: keep the money train going, and clearly it's benefited the

1290
01:08:52,600 --> 01:08:56,840
Speaker 1: success of the overall league. But from some of us

1291
01:08:56,880 --> 01:09:01,479
Speaker 1: football purists, it's different. It just so that there's no

1292
01:09:01,600 --> 01:09:04,519
Speaker 1: going back. That's like, I don't complain about it really

1293
01:09:04,560 --> 01:09:08,280
Speaker 1: anymore unless we gets brought up because there is no

1294
01:09:08,360 --> 01:09:11,800
Speaker 1: going back. We're never going back. It will only get

1295
01:09:11,920 --> 01:09:16,880
Speaker 1: quote unquote softer. It's why the most physical teams you're

1296
01:09:16,880 --> 01:09:19,599
Speaker 1: not really allowed to be physical in the open field

1297
01:09:19,800 --> 01:09:22,599
Speaker 1: like you once were. I once kind of said this

1298
01:09:22,640 --> 01:09:24,760
Speaker 1: to John Lynch and he he kind of laughed, but

1299
01:09:24,800 --> 01:09:26,360
Speaker 1: he was also kind of offended, like, I don't know

1300
01:09:26,360 --> 01:09:29,080
Speaker 1: if you could play today, And whenever I talk to buddies,

1301
01:09:29,080 --> 01:09:30,479
Speaker 1: they'd be like, well, yeah, he probably could. He just

1302
01:09:30,520 --> 01:09:33,479
Speaker 1: had to play linebacker. But you look at the safeties now,

1303
01:09:33,520 --> 01:09:36,639
Speaker 1: they're not that big, Like Kyle Hamilton for the Ravens

1304
01:09:36,760 --> 01:09:39,800
Speaker 1: is an outlier. If you ever meet a safety from

1305
01:09:39,800 --> 01:09:43,040
Speaker 1: the nineties. I worked with Lewis Riddick, who was a

1306
01:09:43,080 --> 01:09:46,040
Speaker 1: backup safety in the NFL in the nineties. Lewis is big,

1307
01:09:46,680 --> 01:09:51,280
Speaker 1: John Lynch is massive. These safeties from the nineties look

1308
01:09:51,400 --> 01:09:55,120
Speaker 1: like defensive linemen. I mean they're six two sixty three.

1309
01:09:55,200 --> 01:09:57,679
Speaker 1: Obviously they're not, you know, two hundred and sixty pounds.

1310
01:09:58,080 --> 01:09:59,760
Speaker 1: But if you meet him at fifty years old, you're like,

1311
01:10:00,080 --> 01:10:02,479
Speaker 1: this guy could wear two hundred and fifty pounds. You

1312
01:10:02,520 --> 01:10:05,680
Speaker 1: meet a guy now, they're just smaller. It's much more

1313
01:10:05,680 --> 01:10:09,920
Speaker 1: of a spread football game. So ye, it's sad. It sucks.

1314
01:10:10,160 --> 01:10:12,600
Speaker 1: I miss it. Should the Raiders move off Jimmy g

1315
01:10:13,439 --> 01:10:16,120
Speaker 1: regardless how the injury turns out for Week seven against

1316
01:10:16,120 --> 01:10:18,400
Speaker 1: the Bears, it's clear that Brian Hoyer is not the

1317
01:10:18,439 --> 01:10:20,599
Speaker 1: real solution. But because the Bears are not great, should

1318
01:10:20,600 --> 01:10:24,240
Speaker 1: they give O'Connell another start? The problem is and Khalil

1319
01:10:24,280 --> 01:10:27,920
Speaker 1: Mack talked about it on his start. He said a

1320
01:10:28,000 --> 01:10:30,280
Speaker 1: huge reason and he had, like, you know, tied an

1321
01:10:30,360 --> 01:10:33,280
Speaker 1: NFL record for six sacks in a game. It was like,

1322
01:10:34,040 --> 01:10:35,960
Speaker 1: you know, I guess it wasn't the NFL record, but

1323
01:10:36,000 --> 01:10:38,040
Speaker 1: only six other players in NFL history had done it.

1324
01:10:38,240 --> 01:10:39,760
Speaker 1: A big reason that he got the sacks was the

1325
01:10:39,800 --> 01:10:41,720
Speaker 1: kid was holding out of the ball. And I like

1326
01:10:41,800 --> 01:10:43,840
Speaker 1: the guy, I mean what he looked like in the preseason.

1327
01:10:44,280 --> 01:10:47,640
Speaker 1: But we all get excited, We're all human beings. I'm

1328
01:10:47,680 --> 01:10:50,320
Speaker 1: as guilty of this as anybody. But the preseason in

1329
01:10:50,360 --> 01:10:53,559
Speaker 1: the regular season really have nothing in common. Besides, you know,

1330
01:10:53,640 --> 01:10:56,280
Speaker 1: you play sixty minutes and wear helmets and his shoulder pad,

1331
01:10:56,600 --> 01:11:00,000
Speaker 1: but the actual sport, the schematics of it are completely different,

1332
01:11:00,240 --> 01:11:03,280
Speaker 1: and the guy looked overwhelmed. So I think the Raiders

1333
01:11:03,360 --> 01:11:07,000
Speaker 1: quarterback situation is gonna be their downfall, which has kind

1334
01:11:07,000 --> 01:11:09,960
Speaker 1: of been a revolving door just moving forward. What is

1335
01:11:10,000 --> 01:11:13,000
Speaker 1: the Bills issue with their defense obviously being better the

1336
01:11:13,000 --> 01:11:15,800
Speaker 1: better unit despite them losing three starters for the year

1337
01:11:16,120 --> 01:11:19,200
Speaker 1: in countless dude cycling, hurt in and out, the defense

1338
01:11:19,280 --> 01:11:22,360
Speaker 1: is consistently proving their top five or ten unit. Meanwhile,

1339
01:11:22,400 --> 01:11:25,960
Speaker 1: the offense under Josh's leadership, continues to falter and play

1340
01:11:25,960 --> 01:11:29,040
Speaker 1: down to their competition. Is a lack of coaching presence

1341
01:11:29,040 --> 01:11:31,840
Speaker 1: on the offensive side. I like McDermott, but it's clear

1342
01:11:31,880 --> 01:11:35,240
Speaker 1: that without Dayball something as seemed off. Not even debatable.

1343
01:11:35,640 --> 01:11:39,040
Speaker 1: They do not look remotely the same. Though. There was

1344
01:11:39,080 --> 01:11:40,960
Speaker 1: a play that I guess ultimately was the game winning

1345
01:11:40,960 --> 01:11:44,120
Speaker 1: touchdown on Sunday night. Josh pulled out of his ass,

1346
01:11:44,400 --> 01:11:47,160
Speaker 1: rolled to the right, threw it in the coverage. It

1347
01:11:47,200 --> 01:11:49,960
Speaker 1: was just only a couple guys have that in the back,

1348
01:11:50,320 --> 01:11:55,760
Speaker 1: right Mahomes, I would say, Mahomes, Herbert and him are

1349
01:11:55,800 --> 01:11:58,360
Speaker 1: the only guys. The athleticism, the arm strength, just that

1350
01:11:58,479 --> 01:12:02,120
Speaker 1: total package. When you're seeing the Chiefs really thrive with

1351
01:12:02,160 --> 01:12:04,920
Speaker 1: this now that they got Pajaco, is when you can

1352
01:12:04,920 --> 01:12:09,479
Speaker 1: get a physical running back with a star quarterback, it

1353
01:12:09,600 --> 01:12:13,400
Speaker 1: is a game changer, it really is, you know. I

1354
01:12:13,400 --> 01:12:17,760
Speaker 1: mean the Patriots always kind of revolved running backs, but

1355
01:12:17,800 --> 01:12:21,320
Speaker 1: they always had a successful operation. Now James Cook had

1356
01:12:21,360 --> 01:12:23,880
Speaker 1: seventy one yards the other night in Latavious. I mean,

1357
01:12:24,000 --> 01:12:26,000
Speaker 1: they actually ran the ball pretty well against the Giants,

1358
01:12:26,640 --> 01:12:29,000
Speaker 1: but it just feels like they're running game is not

1359
01:12:29,120 --> 01:12:32,920
Speaker 1: that reliable since really the last couple of years with

1360
01:12:33,040 --> 01:12:35,639
Speaker 1: Josh Allen, and I think that really helps. Now they've

1361
01:12:35,640 --> 01:12:40,320
Speaker 1: invested heavily with tight ends. They drafted Kincaid hyde. You know,

1362
01:12:40,400 --> 01:12:43,759
Speaker 1: Knox has been a productive player for him, but Kinkaid

1363
01:12:43,840 --> 01:12:48,040
Speaker 1: missed the game with the concussion or whatever. Yeah, it

1364
01:12:48,160 --> 01:12:52,040
Speaker 1: just sums off and it might just be the day ball.

1365
01:12:53,800 --> 01:12:56,599
Speaker 1: I don't know. I mean, only those guys truly know

1366
01:12:56,640 --> 01:12:58,760
Speaker 1: how big a deal that is. But we see with

1367
01:12:58,800 --> 01:13:02,120
Speaker 1: the Eagles right cording here just better than others. Shane

1368
01:13:02,160 --> 01:13:05,360
Speaker 1: Siken was clearly a lot better than Brian Johnson. Not debatable,

1369
01:13:05,560 --> 01:13:10,400
Speaker 1: same players, doesn't look remotely the same. Can you explain

1370
01:13:10,640 --> 01:13:13,960
Speaker 1: if and when the Broncos can move on from Russell Wilson.

1371
01:13:14,360 --> 01:13:18,559
Speaker 1: I'm hearing conflicting reports. Some reporters are saying they're stuck

1372
01:13:18,560 --> 01:13:22,479
Speaker 1: with Russ for years, others reporting they can get out

1373
01:13:22,640 --> 01:13:26,639
Speaker 1: next year. Well, here's the thing with a contract, if

1374
01:13:26,680 --> 01:13:30,480
Speaker 1: you were to cut them, you can basically just accelerate

1375
01:13:30,800 --> 01:13:33,000
Speaker 1: all the money that you owe them on your books

1376
01:13:33,120 --> 01:13:37,000
Speaker 1: and take a massive hit. The Falcons kind of did

1377
01:13:37,040 --> 01:13:39,439
Speaker 1: it with Matt Ryan, where I think it was like

1378
01:13:39,439 --> 01:13:43,920
Speaker 1: a forty million dollar in dead cap space. But technically

1379
01:13:44,000 --> 01:13:46,320
Speaker 1: what I see right now, obviously he's on the team

1380
01:13:46,320 --> 01:13:48,240
Speaker 1: this year. His dead cap is one hundred and seven

1381
01:13:48,320 --> 01:13:49,920
Speaker 1: million dollars, so if they'd cut him at would have

1382
01:13:49,960 --> 01:13:53,240
Speaker 1: been over half the salary and they're paying him, you know,

1383
01:13:53,280 --> 01:13:56,880
Speaker 1: forty plus million dollars. Next year it would be eighty

1384
01:13:56,960 --> 01:14:01,120
Speaker 1: five million dollars. So if you cut Russell, will you

1385
01:14:01,200 --> 01:14:05,599
Speaker 1: pay him eighty five million dollars on your salary cap?

1386
01:14:05,600 --> 01:14:07,600
Speaker 1: You don't have to cut him, but let's say the

1387
01:14:07,600 --> 01:14:11,240
Speaker 1: salary caps two hundred and thirty five million dollars, eighty

1388
01:14:11,320 --> 01:14:12,920
Speaker 1: five of that or for a player that's not on

1389
01:14:12,960 --> 01:14:15,760
Speaker 1: your team, and then the following year is basically close

1390
01:14:15,800 --> 01:14:20,320
Speaker 1: to fifty million dollars, So it is pretty complicated. Now,

1391
01:14:20,640 --> 01:14:25,880
Speaker 1: they're probably logistics with this contract that you know, if

1392
01:14:25,880 --> 01:14:28,800
Speaker 1: I got a Howie Roseman on the phone, maybe there

1393
01:14:28,800 --> 01:14:31,240
Speaker 1: are ways you can eat some of the money facilitate

1394
01:14:31,280 --> 01:14:33,760
Speaker 1: a trade. I just don't know who's trading for him.

1395
01:14:34,400 --> 01:14:36,920
Speaker 1: I really don't now. I think the question would be,

1396
01:14:37,840 --> 01:14:40,360
Speaker 1: if you guys end up with the top two or

1397
01:14:40,400 --> 01:14:43,400
Speaker 1: three pick and Sean Payton wants to take a quarterback,

1398
01:14:44,320 --> 01:14:46,599
Speaker 1: would you ride out for a season with him on

1399
01:14:46,760 --> 01:14:51,280
Speaker 1: the team. That seems weird, But also, what's he gonna do?

1400
01:14:51,960 --> 01:14:56,160
Speaker 1: Be a bad guy? Like that's not really his mo? Right?

1401
01:14:56,560 --> 01:15:01,920
Speaker 1: So I I don't really know the outcome of this. Honestly,

1402
01:15:01,960 --> 01:15:04,960
Speaker 1: I don't have a I can't even make an educated

1403
01:15:05,040 --> 01:15:08,160
Speaker 1: guess I would say it's probably unlikely they cut him

1404
01:15:08,160 --> 01:15:11,040
Speaker 1: at the end of this season, but you would say

1405
01:15:11,040 --> 01:15:14,040
Speaker 1: with John Payton, everything's on the table. Huge fan of

1406
01:15:14,080 --> 01:15:16,360
Speaker 1: the show, like this guy. I'm from South Carolina, so

1407
01:15:16,400 --> 01:15:18,120
Speaker 1: I don't have an NFL team, but I love seeing

1408
01:15:18,120 --> 01:15:20,960
Speaker 1: how players I like in college turn out in the pros.

1409
01:15:21,439 --> 01:15:23,880
Speaker 1: I'm a huge Carolina fan and want to know your

1410
01:15:23,920 --> 01:15:27,240
Speaker 1: take on Spencer Rattler. He was bench for Caleb Williams,

1411
01:15:27,640 --> 01:15:31,040
Speaker 1: an all time great prospect, but he still has incredible

1412
01:15:31,080 --> 01:15:34,439
Speaker 1: talent with our limited roster. He also has face serious

1413
01:15:34,479 --> 01:15:37,719
Speaker 1: adversity in college, which, as you and Colin talk about,

1414
01:15:38,040 --> 01:15:41,400
Speaker 1: almost seemingly play an advantage to quarterbacks in the NFL

1415
01:15:42,680 --> 01:15:45,160
Speaker 1: with what seems to be a great class of quarterbacks.

1416
01:15:45,400 --> 01:15:48,120
Speaker 1: What have you heard any buzz on him or know

1417
01:15:48,200 --> 01:15:50,840
Speaker 1: what kind of grade he might have. He currently has

1418
01:15:50,880 --> 01:15:54,519
Speaker 1: seventeen hundred yards, eleven touchdowns, four picks. Was this before

1419
01:15:54,560 --> 01:15:57,559
Speaker 1: or after the weekend? I think it was we start

1420
01:15:57,600 --> 01:16:01,400
Speaker 1: a backup quarterback at wide receiver. It's hard to watch. Honestly,

1421
01:16:01,479 --> 01:16:04,559
Speaker 1: I have not talked to anyone about Spencer Ratler. I

1422
01:16:04,600 --> 01:16:06,960
Speaker 1: know last year it was not going well and then

1423
01:16:07,000 --> 01:16:10,400
Speaker 1: he finished really strong. I have not watched a snap

1424
01:16:10,439 --> 01:16:16,080
Speaker 1: of South Carolina, but I did watch the Netflix Quarterback Show.

1425
01:16:16,600 --> 01:16:19,640
Speaker 1: Obviously wasn't a huge fan based on that. Now, in

1426
01:16:19,760 --> 01:16:22,519
Speaker 1: fairness to the guy, he was in high school, so

1427
01:16:22,800 --> 01:16:24,920
Speaker 1: you would have watched me in high school. You probably

1428
01:16:24,920 --> 01:16:27,280
Speaker 1: would have hated me. Like, welcome to being an older

1429
01:16:27,320 --> 01:16:31,360
Speaker 1: person watching younger people, especially you know a lot of

1430
01:16:31,400 --> 01:16:34,599
Speaker 1: blue chip prospects. But you're right, like getting beat out

1431
01:16:34,640 --> 01:16:37,639
Speaker 1: by Caleb Williams as actually aged pretty well. I would

1432
01:16:37,640 --> 01:16:40,920
Speaker 1: think he was a draftable player, but I don't. I

1433
01:16:40,920 --> 01:16:44,200
Speaker 1: have not seen much buzz about him, you know, being

1434
01:16:44,240 --> 01:16:47,720
Speaker 1: a top three round guy from Christopher. There is no

1435
01:16:47,800 --> 01:16:50,800
Speaker 1: way the Browns beat the greatest team ever, the forty

1436
01:16:50,880 --> 01:16:54,560
Speaker 1: nine ers. I think that's a shot probably at me. No,

1437
01:16:54,680 --> 01:16:58,439
Speaker 1: it happened. I watched it. This is Robert using my

1438
01:16:58,479 --> 01:17:01,280
Speaker 1: wife's ig. I don't have an out love the show.

1439
01:17:01,600 --> 01:17:03,280
Speaker 1: I heard you say in a recent episode that you

1440
01:17:03,320 --> 01:17:05,800
Speaker 1: purchased a new TV for your new house. I'm in

1441
01:17:05,840 --> 01:17:08,160
Speaker 1: the market for a new TV. Did you do a

1442
01:17:08,200 --> 01:17:10,240
Speaker 1: lot of research or just went to the store and

1443
01:17:10,280 --> 01:17:12,559
Speaker 1: picked one out. I heard you say you went with

1444
01:17:12,560 --> 01:17:20,880
Speaker 1: a Samsung what model? Thanks? I may follow in your footsteps. Well,

1445
01:17:20,880 --> 01:17:24,080
Speaker 1: see if I can explain this correctly. I was. I

1446
01:17:24,120 --> 01:17:26,240
Speaker 1: got two TVs in my office, but they are just

1447
01:17:26,360 --> 01:17:30,200
Speaker 1: pretty generic on the cheaper version of Samsungs. I don't

1448
01:17:30,240 --> 01:17:33,000
Speaker 1: care that much about the picture quality. So I think

1449
01:17:33,040 --> 01:17:36,960
Speaker 1: I got one sixty five inch TV. It's the cheapest

1450
01:17:37,000 --> 01:17:39,040
Speaker 1: you can go to Target or Walmart. It's like four

1451
01:17:39,120 --> 01:17:41,920
Speaker 1: hundred bucks. And then I got a smaller TV right

1452
01:17:41,920 --> 01:17:44,280
Speaker 1: next to it. It's probably a two hundred dollars TV.

1453
01:17:44,439 --> 01:17:46,960
Speaker 1: I just bought one for a room, same deal because

1454
01:17:46,960 --> 01:17:49,000
Speaker 1: I didn't care that much about the picture quality. The

1455
01:17:49,000 --> 01:17:52,280
Speaker 1: one in my living room, though, I got I think

1456
01:17:52,320 --> 01:17:56,320
Speaker 1: you can get. There's different levels of Samsungs, and they're

1457
01:17:56,360 --> 01:17:58,679
Speaker 1: just the basic ones. And then there's like these q

1458
01:17:59,000 --> 01:18:01,800
Speaker 1: LEDs that I had to go into best Buy. The

1459
01:18:01,840 --> 01:18:03,719
Speaker 1: guy kind of, you know, he kind of, I wouldn't

1460
01:18:03,720 --> 01:18:05,720
Speaker 1: say dirty, hustled me, but he kind of sold me

1461
01:18:05,760 --> 01:18:08,599
Speaker 1: on it. And it's like he knew. He's like, you

1462
01:18:08,640 --> 01:18:11,200
Speaker 1: watch sports because these are made for it. I'm like, yeah,

1463
01:18:11,240 --> 01:18:13,240
Speaker 1: you just you might be you might know what you're

1464
01:18:13,280 --> 01:18:15,960
Speaker 1: talking to you here, So that I got an eighty

1465
01:18:16,000 --> 01:18:19,040
Speaker 1: five inch TV for the living room. It's q LED.

1466
01:18:20,240 --> 01:18:23,799
Speaker 1: I think it's like C eighty. They're different like C sixty,

1467
01:18:23,960 --> 01:18:26,719
Speaker 1: C seventy, C eighty, and I think it's the eighty

1468
01:18:27,200 --> 01:18:30,280
Speaker 1: it's pretty crisp and pretty clean. But my other is

1469
01:18:30,280 --> 01:18:32,840
Speaker 1: like I think if you have a guest room or

1470
01:18:32,880 --> 01:18:36,719
Speaker 1: even for your your bedroom. My take. And I'm someone

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01:18:36,760 --> 01:18:39,400
Speaker 1: that watches television for a living, I don't know if

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01:18:39,400 --> 01:18:42,040
Speaker 1: it matters that much. I do think for the living

1473
01:18:42,080 --> 01:18:44,360
Speaker 1: room or an area where you're gonna watch a lot

1474
01:18:44,360 --> 01:18:47,120
Speaker 1: of TV, that is kind of a game changer, and

1475
01:18:47,160 --> 01:18:50,439
Speaker 1: in my opinion, it's worth spending a little bit more.

1476
01:18:51,160 --> 01:18:53,400
Speaker 1: And I have a big wall where I put the

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01:18:53,439 --> 01:18:57,240
Speaker 1: eighty five incher I could have put They have another one.

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01:18:57,280 --> 01:18:59,600
Speaker 1: I think it's like a ninety eight incher, but the

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01:18:59,640 --> 01:19:02,280
Speaker 1: different in price. You know, I could have got the

1480
01:19:02,320 --> 01:19:05,000
Speaker 1: same eighty five inch TV, the cheaper version for like

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01:19:06,000 --> 01:19:08,320
Speaker 1: I think like thirteen hundred dollars and I got the

1482
01:19:08,320 --> 01:19:11,280
Speaker 1: one that I think was twenty two hundred dollars, which

1483
01:19:11,520 --> 01:19:14,280
Speaker 1: is the most I've spent on a TV, and the

1484
01:19:14,439 --> 01:19:17,479
Speaker 1: way bigger one, the crazy part going to eighty five

1485
01:19:17,600 --> 01:19:21,240
Speaker 1: to almost one hundred goes from basically twenty two hundred dollars.

1486
01:19:21,240 --> 01:19:25,000
Speaker 1: That's with tax to about well over six thousand. So

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01:19:25,000 --> 01:19:27,280
Speaker 1: I'm like, I'm not spending four thousand dollars for an

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01:19:27,280 --> 01:19:31,200
Speaker 1: extra seven eight inches uh. I think it was maybe

1489
01:19:31,280 --> 01:19:35,920
Speaker 1: ninety sixty inch TV. But q LED is the one

1490
01:19:35,960 --> 01:19:37,559
Speaker 1: I got for the living room, and I'm not gonna

1491
01:19:37,560 --> 01:19:40,960
Speaker 1: lie it's it's pretty crisp. It's pretty crisp. Now my

1492
01:19:41,080 --> 01:19:44,800
Speaker 1: eyes are also kind of going. I either need glasses.

1493
01:19:45,160 --> 01:19:48,559
Speaker 1: I had to get. I got an Arizona ID because

1494
01:19:48,640 --> 01:19:51,439
Speaker 1: my just my one, my California ID was gonna expire.

1495
01:19:51,600 --> 01:19:54,840
Speaker 1: My birthday was a couple weeks ago, and I went

1496
01:19:55,240 --> 01:19:57,160
Speaker 1: to the you know this place. I didn't go to

1497
01:19:57,200 --> 01:19:59,360
Speaker 1: the DMV. There's like this little place in the shopping

1498
01:19:59,400 --> 01:20:01,559
Speaker 1: center where if you need to get you know, your

1499
01:20:01,560 --> 01:20:03,760
Speaker 1: car registration, you need to get an ID. There's like

1500
01:20:03,800 --> 01:20:05,920
Speaker 1: no line. I don't even know what the place is called,

1501
01:20:05,960 --> 01:20:08,519
Speaker 1: but it's legit, and so I'm taking that. I didn't

1502
01:20:08,520 --> 01:20:09,960
Speaker 1: even need to take a driver's test. I's had to

1503
01:20:09,960 --> 01:20:12,040
Speaker 1: fill out some paperwork, but she did make me take

1504
01:20:12,080 --> 01:20:15,320
Speaker 1: an eye test, and I swear to god, I could

1505
01:20:15,360 --> 01:20:17,960
Speaker 1: not see the middle row. And I've known I could

1506
01:20:17,960 --> 01:20:20,000
Speaker 1: tell when I play golf. I can't really see where

1507
01:20:20,000 --> 01:20:22,760
Speaker 1: the ball lands like my eyes are trending in the

1508
01:20:22,760 --> 01:20:25,720
Speaker 1: wrong direction. My brother my dad always wore glasses. My

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01:20:25,840 --> 01:20:29,160
Speaker 1: brother got laser and it worked really well. I'm just

1510
01:20:29,200 --> 01:20:32,920
Speaker 1: scared and listen, clearly laser works. What if I'm the

1511
01:20:32,960 --> 01:20:37,000
Speaker 1: one guy laser screws up and I can't see, I'd

1512
01:20:37,080 --> 01:20:39,760
Speaker 1: be incapable of making a living if I can't watch sports.

1513
01:20:40,080 --> 01:20:42,240
Speaker 1: I mean, it's one of my only skills watching sports

1514
01:20:42,360 --> 01:20:44,880
Speaker 1: talking about it, so if I can't watch television. But

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01:20:45,560 --> 01:20:47,479
Speaker 1: that's a roundabout way of saying, like to me, the

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01:20:47,479 --> 01:20:50,479
Speaker 1: picture quality you can go to Best Buy that has

1517
01:20:50,560 --> 01:20:55,200
Speaker 1: much higher entvs than Walmart or Costco or Target, you

1518
01:20:55,240 --> 01:20:58,479
Speaker 1: can really see it is crisper. But you know, I

1519
01:20:58,800 --> 01:21:00,920
Speaker 1: think you just need to go to a place like

1520
01:21:00,960 --> 01:21:03,720
Speaker 1: that in a lot of side by sides until I

1521
01:21:03,760 --> 01:21:06,439
Speaker 1: don't know what your budget is. TVs in a world

1522
01:21:06,520 --> 01:21:12,280
Speaker 1: of inflation, it truly is one of the one of

1523
01:21:12,320 --> 01:21:16,000
Speaker 1: the only things that you can get a really good TV,

1524
01:21:16,280 --> 01:21:19,000
Speaker 1: A massive TV. I mean, it's not that long ago.

1525
01:21:19,040 --> 01:21:21,320
Speaker 1: When I was a kid, if you would have had

1526
01:21:21,360 --> 01:21:24,760
Speaker 1: a fifty inch TV, you would have had even with

1527
01:21:25,000 --> 01:21:27,520
Speaker 1: rich people had one of the biggest TVs in the community.

1528
01:21:28,280 --> 01:21:30,639
Speaker 1: And I bought a seventy five inch TV and within

1529
01:21:30,720 --> 01:21:33,320
Speaker 1: twenty four hours I had gone to Best Buy and

1530
01:21:33,360 --> 01:21:34,880
Speaker 1: had them come pick it up and drop off an

1531
01:21:34,880 --> 01:21:37,240
Speaker 1: eighty five inch TV wasn't big enough and even looking

1532
01:21:37,280 --> 01:21:40,960
Speaker 1: at the eighty five like could have got a beer crazy.

1533
01:21:41,000 --> 01:21:42,720
Speaker 1: How the world has worked. It's one of my go

1534
01:21:42,760 --> 01:21:44,439
Speaker 1: to podcasts in the car or at the gym. In

1535
01:21:44,479 --> 01:21:47,679
Speaker 1: my opinion, the most important greeting for success beyond coaching

1536
01:21:47,720 --> 01:21:51,439
Speaker 1: quarterback is depth. You don't have to have the best

1537
01:21:51,479 --> 01:21:54,960
Speaker 1: guys or even top five guys at one or more positions.

1538
01:21:55,320 --> 01:21:59,519
Speaker 1: You need good players, consistent players, but depth is more

1539
01:21:59,560 --> 01:22:02,439
Speaker 1: important over the course of the season. In my opinion,

1540
01:22:03,120 --> 01:22:06,880
Speaker 1: my question is how can an organization build depth. How

1541
01:22:06,920 --> 01:22:09,840
Speaker 1: can a team make sure they have a second and

1542
01:22:09,880 --> 01:22:14,080
Speaker 1: third string kai string on key positions who can produce

1543
01:22:14,560 --> 01:22:16,920
Speaker 1: at eighty five to ninety percent of the level of

1544
01:22:16,960 --> 01:22:20,240
Speaker 1: the starters. Injuries are inevitable, so it seems like you'd

1545
01:22:20,320 --> 01:22:22,720
Speaker 1: rather have a solid left tackle with another solid left

1546
01:22:22,760 --> 01:22:25,160
Speaker 1: tackle behind him, rather than a stud left tackle and

1547
01:22:25,200 --> 01:22:30,120
Speaker 1: his backup completely hopeless. Well, this is twofold one. You

1548
01:22:30,240 --> 01:22:32,800
Speaker 1: need to be a good drafting team because the way

1549
01:22:32,840 --> 01:22:36,639
Speaker 1: you get depth is cheap labor. And when you draft

1550
01:22:36,640 --> 01:22:40,439
Speaker 1: guy's fourth, fifth, sixth, seventh rounds who are gonna be

1551
01:22:40,560 --> 01:22:44,120
Speaker 1: your backups? And then it's a double whammy. You have

1552
01:22:44,160 --> 01:22:45,519
Speaker 1: to be a good drafting team and you have to

1553
01:22:45,560 --> 01:22:47,680
Speaker 1: have a good coaching staff because the draft a guy

1554
01:22:47,720 --> 01:22:50,000
Speaker 1: in the fifth round who starts as a backup and

1555
01:22:50,040 --> 01:22:51,960
Speaker 1: works his way into a starter. The only way for

1556
01:22:52,040 --> 01:22:55,439
Speaker 1: him to improve his coaching and in practice in the

1557
01:22:55,479 --> 01:22:59,559
Speaker 1: meeting room. So it's to me, the development the world

1558
01:22:59,560 --> 01:23:03,080
Speaker 1: of developed in any organization starts with a draft because

1559
01:23:03,080 --> 01:23:06,000
Speaker 1: it's where you get guys on minimum contracts and starts

1560
01:23:06,040 --> 01:23:08,720
Speaker 1: with the coaching staff who is with this guy every day?

1561
01:23:09,200 --> 01:23:13,360
Speaker 1: Like ultimately, at practice, let's say I got Jason Kelcey

1562
01:23:13,439 --> 01:23:17,080
Speaker 1: or Trent Williams, Like what what am I? Obviously we're

1563
01:23:17,120 --> 01:23:19,960
Speaker 1: implementing the game plan and talking big picture stuff, but

1564
01:23:20,280 --> 01:23:23,639
Speaker 1: are we really talking about like hey, Jason, that your

1565
01:23:23,800 --> 01:23:26,519
Speaker 1: depth on your first kickstep is a little too deep,

1566
01:23:26,680 --> 01:23:29,080
Speaker 1: Like give me a break. So you're spending a lot

1567
01:23:29,120 --> 01:23:32,600
Speaker 1: of time with those six seventh eighth offensive linemen, no

1568
01:23:32,680 --> 01:23:36,320
Speaker 1: different your backup defensive lineman, your backup dbs. You're working

1569
01:23:36,320 --> 01:23:39,839
Speaker 1: those guys in practice. The practice squad guys. The practice

1570
01:23:39,840 --> 01:23:43,280
Speaker 1: squad group is another element where if you can teach

1571
01:23:43,320 --> 01:23:46,599
Speaker 1: those guys your system, get those guys to improve over

1572
01:23:46,640 --> 01:23:48,880
Speaker 1: the course of the year. When you're starting corner and

1573
01:23:49,000 --> 01:23:51,360
Speaker 1: breaks his leg and then the backups not quite as good,

1574
01:23:51,400 --> 01:23:53,519
Speaker 1: your practice squad guy might be able to wally pip

1575
01:23:53,600 --> 01:23:59,400
Speaker 1: that guy, right, So it starts in that world and

1576
01:23:59,479 --> 01:24:04,240
Speaker 1: then kind having a specific scheme, having a specific identity,

1577
01:24:04,280 --> 01:24:06,960
Speaker 1: and knowing exactly what to look for so when guys

1578
01:24:07,000 --> 01:24:10,240
Speaker 1: get cut or guys on the free agent market aren't

1579
01:24:10,240 --> 01:24:13,040
Speaker 1: that expensive, you can find a lot of value. Where

1580
01:24:13,080 --> 01:24:15,840
Speaker 1: I disagree is all the best teams in the league

1581
01:24:15,880 --> 01:24:20,000
Speaker 1: have high end players, right they all do. The Eagles,

1582
01:24:20,080 --> 01:24:24,320
Speaker 1: the Bills, the Niners, the Dolphins, the Chiefs. You have

1583
01:24:24,400 --> 01:24:26,679
Speaker 1: to have star impact players. And then, like you said,

1584
01:24:26,800 --> 01:24:29,080
Speaker 1: then you have to have the depth. So you got

1585
01:24:29,120 --> 01:24:31,360
Speaker 1: to hit on the elite guys like you're gonna need

1586
01:24:31,960 --> 01:24:35,120
Speaker 1: the Steph Curries and the Honeses, but you're also gonna

1587
01:24:35,120 --> 01:24:38,040
Speaker 1: need the role players. And it's the best of both worlds.

1588
01:24:38,080 --> 01:24:40,080
Speaker 1: It's why being a GM is really hard. I have

1589
01:24:40,080 --> 01:24:43,599
Speaker 1: a quick question for you, which current offensive starter do

1590
01:24:43,640 --> 01:24:47,680
Speaker 1: you see for sure one getting traded before the deadline.

1591
01:24:47,960 --> 01:24:52,400
Speaker 1: Lots of options, but in your gut, which one? Well, like,

1592
01:24:52,439 --> 01:24:55,479
Speaker 1: the Patriots don't really have anybody, right, So who do

1593
01:24:55,520 --> 01:24:57,799
Speaker 1: the Patriots have of any value? Because they are a

1594
01:24:57,800 --> 01:25:00,880
Speaker 1: loss or two away from just blowing the you know

1595
01:25:00,960 --> 01:25:05,160
Speaker 1: what up the Broncos because Jerry Judy that valued on

1596
01:25:05,200 --> 01:25:08,760
Speaker 1: the open market, I would say, no, who do the

1597
01:25:08,800 --> 01:25:12,840
Speaker 1: Panthers have to trade? J? C. Horn's always injured? Like

1598
01:25:12,920 --> 01:25:16,000
Speaker 1: they were adamant Brian Burns, but he, like you said,

1599
01:25:16,000 --> 01:25:18,599
Speaker 1: he's not. Neither one of those guys are offensive starters

1600
01:25:19,160 --> 01:25:24,200
Speaker 1: of the Giants. Could they trade Saquon Barkley? I guess

1601
01:25:24,280 --> 01:25:26,960
Speaker 1: they could? But what would his value be? He's on

1602
01:25:27,000 --> 01:25:30,559
Speaker 1: the franchise tag, He's on a one year contract the Bears.

1603
01:25:31,400 --> 01:25:35,559
Speaker 1: Could the Bears flip you know, they got the Panthers pick,

1604
01:25:36,120 --> 01:25:42,439
Speaker 1: They got their own pick. Now Fields is injured. I

1605
01:25:42,479 --> 01:25:45,600
Speaker 1: got one for you. Could they flip Dj Moore? Like,

1606
01:25:45,640 --> 01:25:50,760
Speaker 1: if you're the Chiefs, he's under contract, he's clearly a

1607
01:25:50,880 --> 01:25:54,360
Speaker 1: really good player. He would fit your scheme immediately. Would

1608
01:25:54,400 --> 01:25:56,760
Speaker 1: you trade your first like a first this year and

1609
01:25:56,840 --> 01:25:58,920
Speaker 1: a second next year? If you're the Bears, we we

1610
01:25:58,960 --> 01:26:02,519
Speaker 1: do that. So you basically just get to start from

1611
01:26:02,560 --> 01:26:05,639
Speaker 1: scratch next year. Like, what's the point right now? I'd

1612
01:26:05,680 --> 01:26:09,360
Speaker 1: argue none, But having DJ Moore does nothing for you

1613
01:26:09,520 --> 01:26:12,720
Speaker 1: doesn't do anything for him either. Why not trade? If

1614
01:26:12,720 --> 01:26:15,639
Speaker 1: you're Kansas City Ryan Poles, trade DJ Moore to the Chiefs.

1615
01:26:16,240 --> 01:26:18,000
Speaker 1: Give us your first round pick this year and give

1616
01:26:18,080 --> 01:26:20,280
Speaker 1: us your second round pick in twenty twenty four, so

1617
01:26:20,320 --> 01:26:22,360
Speaker 1: you keep building this thing, Because what have you really

1618
01:26:22,360 --> 01:26:26,640
Speaker 1: built right now? Nothing? Like I said, the Panther's nothing. Cardinals,

1619
01:26:27,600 --> 01:26:29,360
Speaker 1: I guess they could trade Hollywood Brown, but he's in

1620
01:26:29,360 --> 01:26:32,760
Speaker 1: the last year of his contract. Rondale Moore? Maybe why

1621
01:26:32,800 --> 01:26:35,360
Speaker 1: not DJ Moore? I've actually been thinking about that for

1622
01:26:35,360 --> 01:26:37,400
Speaker 1: a minute. Chiefs, DJ Moore make a lot of sense

1623
01:26:37,400 --> 01:26:40,719
Speaker 1: to me. With everyone questioning Belichick's greatness as a coach,

1624
01:26:40,800 --> 01:26:43,280
Speaker 1: with his declining record since Brady left, do you think

1625
01:26:43,320 --> 01:26:45,360
Speaker 1: there is an argument that Sean Payton just isn't a

1626
01:26:45,400 --> 01:26:48,040
Speaker 1: very good coach without Breeze either. I know people argue

1627
01:26:48,040 --> 01:26:50,120
Speaker 1: that Peyton had an excellent record in games where Breeze

1628
01:26:50,160 --> 01:26:52,960
Speaker 1: was sidelined with injury, but Belichick was the same when

1629
01:26:53,000 --> 01:26:55,640
Speaker 1: Brady was hurt. I'm starting to think Sean Payton just

1630
01:26:55,680 --> 01:26:58,120
Speaker 1: straight up isn't a good coach and was carried by

1631
01:26:58,200 --> 01:27:03,519
Speaker 1: breeze your thoughts. It's impossible to be a good coach

1632
01:27:04,360 --> 01:27:08,240
Speaker 1: without a star quarterback, especially these last twenty years. Obviously,

1633
01:27:08,280 --> 01:27:11,200
Speaker 1: Parcels became a legend. He had the greatest defensive player

1634
01:27:11,240 --> 01:27:14,160
Speaker 1: of all time. The sport was different LT right, So

1635
01:27:14,320 --> 01:27:17,080
Speaker 1: LT was equivalent to a quarterback in the eighties. But

1636
01:27:17,240 --> 01:27:21,240
Speaker 1: every elite coach of my lifetime became a rock star

1637
01:27:21,880 --> 01:27:25,040
Speaker 1: with a star quarterback starting in the nineties, right or

1638
01:27:25,080 --> 01:27:27,840
Speaker 1: starting in the eighties. That's you know in my world,

1639
01:27:28,439 --> 01:27:33,559
Speaker 1: Bill Walsh, Joe Montana, Mike Holmgren got a historic contract

1640
01:27:33,560 --> 01:27:36,000
Speaker 1: from the Seattle Seahawks because of what he did in

1641
01:27:36,000 --> 01:27:41,639
Speaker 1: Green Bay with Brett Farv. Andy Reid was always viewed

1642
01:27:41,640 --> 01:27:44,320
Speaker 1: as like a high end coach became an all timer

1643
01:27:44,360 --> 01:27:48,120
Speaker 1: at the moment he got Patrick Mahomes. So you gotta

1644
01:27:48,160 --> 01:27:50,799
Speaker 1: have a good quarterback to be a good head coach, now,

1645
01:27:51,320 --> 01:27:54,880
Speaker 1: can you figure it out? Other places like, let's compare

1646
01:27:54,920 --> 01:27:57,439
Speaker 1: Andy Reid to Sean Payton, like he's kind of one

1647
01:27:57,479 --> 01:28:00,600
Speaker 1: with a bunch of random guys. Donovan McNabb was a

1648
01:28:00,680 --> 01:28:04,599
Speaker 1: high drafted Pro Bowl level guy, but then he also

1649
01:28:04,680 --> 01:28:06,600
Speaker 1: won some games with Jeff Garcia also won games with

1650
01:28:06,640 --> 01:28:08,880
Speaker 1: Michael Vick. He also won games with Alex Smith, so yeah,

1651
01:28:08,880 --> 01:28:11,679
Speaker 1: there might be something to that. I think one problem

1652
01:28:11,680 --> 01:28:14,080
Speaker 1: with Sean Payton is he runs really hot, and when

1653
01:28:14,120 --> 01:28:18,000
Speaker 1: you run really hot and shit hits the fan, it

1654
01:28:18,000 --> 01:28:20,960
Speaker 1: can teeter fast on you, and I think you're seeing

1655
01:28:21,000 --> 01:28:24,759
Speaker 1: that right now. But in fairness to him, Russell Wilson

1656
01:28:25,320 --> 01:28:29,439
Speaker 1: relative to what he once was kind of stinks. And

1657
01:28:29,479 --> 01:28:32,160
Speaker 1: if he's gonna think like Andy Reid could be their coach,

1658
01:28:32,320 --> 01:28:34,760
Speaker 1: I would there would be in some trouble. Is it

1659
01:28:34,800 --> 01:28:37,040
Speaker 1: fair to good? Question? Is Sean Payton a good coach?

1660
01:28:38,560 --> 01:28:42,800
Speaker 1: Is he overrated? Overpaid? No one's overpaid. You only get

1661
01:28:42,800 --> 01:28:44,880
Speaker 1: paid what someone's willing to pay you. But is he

1662
01:28:45,479 --> 01:28:48,320
Speaker 1: the hype machine? Was it too much coming into this

1663
01:28:48,360 --> 01:28:51,360
Speaker 1: season and the listen, I'd be guilty too. Yeah, I

1664
01:28:51,400 --> 01:28:53,920
Speaker 1: think it's fair to say that. But if he gets

1665
01:28:53,920 --> 01:28:56,280
Speaker 1: another quarterback. Let's say they get the number two pick

1666
01:28:56,280 --> 01:28:58,479
Speaker 1: and he drafts Drake May and then he also sucks

1667
01:28:58,520 --> 01:29:01,200
Speaker 1: with him, then yeah, maybe it's on him. Maybe he

1668
01:29:01,360 --> 01:29:04,040
Speaker 1: just was an overrated coach and breezes or is more credit.

1669
01:29:04,280 --> 01:29:06,320
Speaker 1: I always felt like it was both of them, but

1670
01:29:07,840 --> 01:29:11,799
Speaker 1: maybe I'm the crazy one. The volume