Speaker 1: All right, welcome party people. It's a fantasy pros YouTube channel.
Speaker 1: I'm your host, Matt Modi. Today we're talking about wide
Speaker 1: receivers with massive upside, joined by two legends in the industry, ericson.
Speaker 1: We'll start with you. How are we doing?
Speaker 2: Dude, cannot be doing better.
Speaker 3: So excited to talk about these upside, high ceiling wide
Speaker 3: receivers with the two of you.
Speaker 2: It's a Friday.
Speaker 3: Tomorrow is August first, which means it's the last month
Speaker 3: without regular season football.
Speaker 2: Guys, there's no better time to be alive.
Speaker 1: It doesn't get much better than this. That is true.
Speaker 1: That is true. And then the other guests that we
Speaker 1: have here, Scott Bogeman not guessed analysts. Sorry about that,
Speaker 1: but Scott help me doing?
Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm doing great. Man, Ready to talk about some
Speaker 4: wide outs. It's gonna be a fun one. And ericson,
Speaker 4: do you have any Patriots in here? I don't think
Speaker 4: I have any Steelers. No homer ism at all today?
Speaker 3: Look at that, I mean, I mean the Bowld case
Speaker 3: on AJ Brown is just so obvious. I wanted to
Speaker 3: give the audience a little bit more another Patriots homer
Speaker 3: take on why twenty twenty six is AJB wide receiver one.
Speaker 4: I was itchy to put Jeremy Bernard in here, but
Speaker 4: you know, Roman Wilson's getting talked up. Can't put Bernard
Speaker 4: in there quite yet.
Speaker 1: So Roman Wilson's season, Well, this is an interesting trio.
Speaker 1: I'm an Eagles fan here. So we just got everything
Speaker 1: covered from the Eagles Patriots rivalry, the Pennsylvania rivalr. We
Speaker 1: re goot everything. So for today's shows, as we've talked about,
Speaker 1: we're talking wide receivers. First, we're going to talk about
Speaker 1: early to mid round alphas, Guys being taken in rounds
Speaker 1: three through six. This is half PPR by the way,
Speaker 1: just to note that, Yeah, guys being taken around three
Speaker 1: through six who can really come through for your team
Speaker 1: despite not being in the top two rounds. Then we're
Speaker 1: going to talk about mid round upside plays, so receivers
Speaker 1: being taken around seven through ten. Really trying to focus
Speaker 1: on like a scheme or coordinator change, something like that
Speaker 1: unlock these these water will unlock these players that could
Speaker 1: become wide receiver two three for your team. And then
Speaker 1: lake ground sleepers. Everybody loves a good sleeper. That's what
Speaker 1: we'll talk about at the end. So yeah, we'll get
Speaker 1: started mid to early to mid round alpha engines ericson.
Speaker 1: Let's start with you.
Speaker 3: I'm going to take a guy that I know that
Speaker 3: Scott Bogwin is also high on as well, but I
Speaker 3: beat him to the show sheets, so I get to
Speaker 3: include Zay Flowers here as my wide receiver to target
Speaker 3: in the early rounds is an extremely high ceiling. Because
Speaker 3: I mentioned this when I took Zay Flowers. I think
Speaker 3: I took Zay Flowers in the super flex mock draft
Speaker 3: that we did earlier this week.
Speaker 2: And just imagine if this guy finds the end zone.
Speaker 3: Imagine if the Ravens don't rank dead last and pass
Speaker 3: right over expectation in twenty twenty six under a new
Speaker 3: offensive coordinator, Declan Doyle. Because that's really the key point
Speaker 3: to make about. Okay, well, how does things change for
Speaker 3: z Flowers? It's okay, Well, Todd Munkin is no longer
Speaker 3: calling shots here, like it's a new officive coordinator coming in,
Speaker 3: young hot shot worked under Ben Johnson, and hopefully he
Speaker 3: embraces some more of Zay Flowers, specifically in these high
Speaker 3: leverage opportunities, because the talent is so clearly there was
Speaker 3: a Flowers last year over twelve hundred receiving yards, eighty
Speaker 3: six catches, just six total touchdowns. He was wide receiver
Speaker 3: seven overall in twenty twenty five, but the consistency was
Speaker 3: there every single week from him. Over the last five
Speaker 3: games he was wide receiver three overall, he had at
Speaker 3: least four catches and thirteen of his seventeen games played,
Speaker 3: So the floor consistency is all there for him. Fifth
Speaker 3: and target share at twenty eight percent, eleventh in air
Speaker 3: yard chair at thirty five percent. Fourth in yards per
Speaker 3: rout run behind only Puka Nakua, Jacksmith, Jigbut and Luther Burden.
Speaker 3: So for me, it's just trying to find the avenues. Okay,
Speaker 3: the floor has been established and we get access a
Speaker 3: potential ceiling with this officer coordinator change. Look, every other
Speaker 3: receiver that hit twelve hundred yards last year had eight touchdowns.
Speaker 3: The only outlier was A Flowers. So for me, when
Speaker 3: I'm just looking at the talent profile, I'm so excited
Speaker 3: about him because I think that he's really really good.
Speaker 2: He's super super explosive.
Speaker 3: He checks out every explosive metric when you're looking at
Speaker 3: wide receivers creating balls with the ball in their hands.
Speaker 3: They talked about it on the NFL Top one hundred list.
Speaker 3: Every single guy that talked about Zay Flowers was, dude,
Speaker 3: this guy so explosive, right, and that matches up with
Speaker 3: all the numbers that you're looking at when it comes
Speaker 3: to what he's doing when they do throw him the rock.
Speaker 3: So he's attached to Lamar Jackson. No one will be
Speaker 3: surprised if Lamar Jackson has a bounce back season again.
Speaker 3: Six point five career touchdown passing rate, so Lamar can
Speaker 3: throw for four touchdowns like we've seen it before from him.
Speaker 3: I think Jay Flowers gets a little bit more here.
Speaker 3: Last year when he was healthy, between him and Lamar
Speaker 3: Jackson over fifteen points per game in full PPR, that
Speaker 3: was Zay Flowers. So for me, Jesse Minner, this is
Speaker 3: per the Coach Beak Index. He was talking about how, hey,
Speaker 3: what do you think about this NFL Top one hundred list,
Speaker 3: and he said, you always going to shoot himself way
Speaker 3: up this year, say Flowers.
Speaker 1: You'd love to see it, and you have to see that.
Speaker 1: Then you get Dechnan Doyle coming over from Ben Johnson too.
Speaker 1: What he brings over and Scott, what do you think
Speaker 1: about Jay Flowers this year?
Speaker 4: Yeah, man, I mean really upset that Ericson got the
Speaker 4: sheet before me. But third and team yards only, JSN
Speaker 4: and Puka had a higher percentage of their team's yards
Speaker 4: right seventh in yards per route run ninth and yards
Speaker 4: per target twenty second and yards per route run second
Speaker 4: and miss tackles force eighth in miss tackles force per reception,
Speaker 4: tenth in the act eighteenth in the act per catch.
Speaker 4: This dude was seventh last season in PPR and thirteenth
Speaker 4: in points per games. He's right there, Addy wide receiver one.
Speaker 4: This offense is going to get more vertical. What a
Speaker 4: great selection by Ericson to start us off here. Excellent work, Ericson,
Speaker 4: I love that.
Speaker 1: And yeah, so the last point is he did all
Speaker 1: that with Lamar missing a bunch of time and like
Speaker 1: having up down here for Lamar Jackson's standards. So yeah,
Speaker 1: it's kind of scary what what he can be. So
Speaker 1: all right, Zay Flowers in agreement there, Scott, who do
Speaker 1: you like?
Speaker 4: I'm going to reach down a little bit further. I'm
Speaker 4: going to say Mike Evans, who's ADP right now, is
Speaker 4: currently sixty one. Overall, things are not looking good for
Speaker 4: Ricky Pearsall. I'm not really buying that George Kittle is
Speaker 4: gonna be ready early because Kyle Yuscheck said he looked great, right,
Speaker 4: I know we've got a little bit of that, but
Speaker 4: that's not even coach speak, that's full back speak. Not
Speaker 4: sure if I'm buying into any of that. Kirk is
Speaker 4: down with a calf strain right now. Stribbling was a
Speaker 4: high pick, but he's a rookie. Deebo will help this offense.
Speaker 4: But I really think a healthy Mike Evans is going
Speaker 4: to be extremely productive here. He's currently wide receiver twenty five,
Speaker 4: an outstanding option as your wide receiver three. Mike Evans
Speaker 4: was wide receiver forty in points per game, but spent
Speaker 4: most of last season with broken baker. In the second
Speaker 4: half twenty twenty four, he was wide receiver nine in
Speaker 4: total and in points per games. I don't think he
Speaker 4: can get there this season, but let's remember that brock
Speaker 4: Perty with a healthy, not crazy Brandon Ayuk was pretty good.
Speaker 4: He ranked second and deep passing according to PFF. He
Speaker 4: had the second highest completion rate as well on deep
Speaker 4: passes fifty seven point nine percent in twenty twenty three.
Speaker 4: Evans can add that element back to this Niners offense.
Speaker 4: And I think with a lot of volume being gone
Speaker 4: right now, with Kirk being down, with Kittle likely starting
Speaker 4: the season on the puff, the ghost of Debo, we
Speaker 4: don't know what he's gonna do, right, and then it's
Speaker 4: a lot of inexperience next to Mike Evans. I think,
Speaker 4: you know, this isn't Purdy's game. I don't think that
Speaker 4: they want him throwing deep a lot, but I do
Speaker 4: think that he can do it when asked Brandon, I
Speaker 4: Yuke did it, and he has done it successfully. And
Speaker 4: I expect a big year from Mike Evans.
Speaker 1: So you're not buying the fullback coach coach index being
Speaker 1: the next big thing.
Speaker 4: No, maybe I should start it, maybe fullback truth index
Speaker 4: or however, but yeah, yeah, you check. I don't know.
Speaker 4: I just all of this polyanninous about these guys with
Speaker 4: these major injuries to try to make it to week one.
Speaker 4: I don't know, like Mahomes, maybe Mahomes seems like a freak,
Speaker 4: but Kittle playing week one after torn achilles, it's DJ.
Speaker 3: It's weird how all their time I just magically aligned.
Speaker 2: With week one exactly right.
Speaker 3: It's so weird, like how all these injuries at all
Speaker 3: different times.
Speaker 2: It's like, well, is it week one? Looks like we're
Speaker 2: ready to go. So I agree with you.
Speaker 3: There's definitely a lot of optimism here as we're entering
Speaker 3: you know, first we're getting close to August.
Speaker 1: Yeah, with Kitty towards Achilles in the playoffs and he's
Speaker 1: older now, he's like, he's above thirty. Yead, it's scary,
Speaker 1: but hey, I mean July August, it's our best shape
Speaker 1: of career season. It's ahead of schedule season, all that
Speaker 1: stuff is happening. So yeah, all right, Mike Evans as
Speaker 1: the Scott's first one ericson what do you got next?
Speaker 3: I have Jalen Wattle for the Denver Broncos, and he's
Speaker 3: someone that I have actually been kind of moving up
Speaker 3: my rankings and I'm just kind of looking at this
Speaker 3: wide receiver tier. I love this wide receiver tier. Right
Speaker 3: when you're drafting rounds three, rounds four, rounds five. It's
Speaker 3: why I think that double tapping running back makes a
Speaker 3: lot of sense, especially if you're picking at the end
Speaker 3: of round one in the traditional twelve team lead because
Speaker 3: we love these wide receivers here, and I'm just basically
Speaker 3: listing off fits and I's King Classics team, where we
Speaker 3: got say Flowers in the auction draft, we got Jalen
Speaker 3: Wall in the auction draft, both for steals in my opinion,
Speaker 3: pairing him with Puka and Kua as the guy we
Speaker 3: spent up for. So basically just listening off my high
Speaker 3: ceiling roster, our high ceiling.
Speaker 2: Roster for the King's Classic.
Speaker 3: So but for Wattle specifically, it's just the ceiling outcomes
Speaker 3: he can get to attached to an offense that's actually
Speaker 3: going to embrace throwing the football, because that was not
Speaker 3: in the case last year with Miami when two was
Speaker 3: a quarterback and then when he got hurt or when
Speaker 3: he got benched, they put quinn Ewers and was just
Speaker 3: run the football basically as much as humanly possible. So
Speaker 3: Wattle was still really efficient last year. So I'm not
Speaker 3: worried about, Oh, he's fallen off. He's not as good
Speaker 3: as he once was when he was younger in his career.
Speaker 3: He's still ninth in PFF receiving grade thirteenth yards per
Speaker 3: out run was also top twelve and target rate per
Speaker 3: route run at a pretty high twenty six percent, so
Speaker 3: we've seen him operate and perform at a very high level.
Speaker 3: When Terry Hill has missed passed games or not been
Speaker 3: at one hundred percent in those games fifteen game sample size,
Speaker 3: whether Hill has missed completely or has been limited. In
Speaker 3: terms of snaps, Waddle has averaged seven or more targets,
Speaker 3: sixty eight receiving yards and topped eighty two yards in
Speaker 3: five of those eleven last games in twenty twenty five.
Speaker 3: So when I look at the Denver Broncos offense last year,
Speaker 3: they were one of the highest rated teams in terms
Speaker 3: of pass over expectation. Bo Nicks actually led the NFL
Speaker 3: pass stemps. It's a crazy number because you look at
Speaker 3: it and think, man, how did a team that went
Speaker 3: fourteen and three lead the league in passing attempts. It's
Speaker 3: because they played in so many second half comeback wins. Right,
Speaker 3: they were down in the second half, so we got
Speaker 3: to throw a throw a throw And we look at
Speaker 3: the Denver Bronco schedules, so this is per sharp football.
Speaker 3: If you look at their schedule, they have an extremely
Speaker 3: tough runout to start the year. So I think you're
Speaker 3: going to see more of the pass heavy approach with
Speaker 3: Bonnicks healthy, and I think that's why they went out
Speaker 3: and got Jaylen Wattle, so they can strike fear into
Speaker 3: opposing defenses. Also, per sharp Football, Denver last year dead
Speaker 3: last in terms of receptions, gained a twenty or more yards.
Speaker 3: They need to generate more explosive plays, and I think
Speaker 3: that's exactly why they traded what they did to get
Speaker 3: Jalen Waddell, who who I do think is far, far
Speaker 3: far from wash. I think that he can still put
Speaker 3: up a fantasy wide receiver one season. He's done it
Speaker 3: before in the past, done it with volume, done it
Speaker 3: with efficiency as the number two behind Tyreek Kill, but
Speaker 3: as the clear cut number one in this offense. Because
Speaker 3: we saw last year Troy Franklin really eat into Courtland
Speaker 3: Sutton's target share and production, I think we're just going
Speaker 3: to see the jail the Wattle show. It's just a
Speaker 3: matter of if he can stay healthy and not being
Speaker 3: the blue medical kent like constantly, which is really frustrating.
Speaker 3: Again as someone that's been big on Jaalen Wattle every
Speaker 3: single year seemingly and it has not always worked out.
Speaker 2: I'm very excited about what he could do in Denver.
Speaker 1: Yeah, ton of opportunity for an explosive receiver there, Scott,
Speaker 1: You buying Wattle this year?
Speaker 4: Yeah? I mean, I think this is what makes the
Speaker 4: kind of the wide receiver two to three borderline here
Speaker 4: really nice, is that there's a lot of really good
Speaker 4: players to pick from, and you can really take anybody
Speaker 4: out of this section and singing their praises. But Wattle
Speaker 4: is a guy that you know, I think we're pushing
Speaker 4: Courtland Sutton down, and I'm a Courtland Sutton guy, right.
Speaker 4: Loved him coming out of SMU and he was kind
Speaker 4: of learning on the job. He played safety at SMU
Speaker 4: his first two safeties, then converted to wide receiver, got
Speaker 4: drafted as a wide receiver, became a number one rather quickly.
Speaker 4: But Wattle is, you know, one of those high recruits
Speaker 4: going into Alabama coming out and just doing what he
Speaker 4: did in college. And I think with a good quarterback.
Speaker 4: You know, we saw the jump from Pickens last year
Speaker 4: going from Pittsburgh where it was all subpar QB play
Speaker 4: to go to Dallas to play with the best QB
Speaker 4: that he's ever played with across any level in Dak Prescott,
Speaker 4: and we saw him blow up. I think the same
Speaker 4: could be in store for Wattle. Not that Tua is
Speaker 4: an absolute scrub or anything, but bo Nix looks like
Speaker 4: an elite level quarterback early in his career here, So
Speaker 4: I'm excited to see the ceiling for Wattle truly in Denver, specifically,
Speaker 4: if they passed as much as they did last season.
Speaker 2: Yeah, for sure.
Speaker 1: Well, speaking of receivers that we love in this round,
Speaker 1: I believe he got more more for us.
Speaker 4: Yeah, Carnel Tate. The fit of Tate with Ward is
Speaker 4: one of my favorite things to come out of the
Speaker 4: draft because if you've watched cam Ward play at any level,
Speaker 4: the dude is holding onto the ball as long as
Speaker 4: possible before he can get rid of it to try
Speaker 4: to make the big play. And that is what Carneal
Speaker 4: Tait is. He is the big playmaker, your big downfield threat,
Speaker 4: the guy that is going to break this all the
Speaker 4: way open. Obviously, they're also looking for a number one
Speaker 4: target in Tennessee, you know, but Tait with a quarterback
Speaker 4: like Ward and sticky coverage, more sticky coverage in the NFL. Well,
Speaker 4: it's great that he was twenty two of thirty two
Speaker 4: in his career, which is sixty eight point eight percent
Speaker 4: in contested catch percentage and his last year at Ohio
Speaker 4: State twelve of fourteen eighty five point seven percent. The
Speaker 4: new offensive additions of you know, Wanda Robinson, I think
Speaker 4: is going to be huge in a PPR league for
Speaker 4: getting those receptions, so short receptions. But I think if
Speaker 4: you're looking at your number one target, a high guy,
Speaker 4: the guy that's going to be very high in first
Speaker 4: three percentage, he's going to make a lot of big plays.
Speaker 4: If there are touchdowns to be had in Tennessee, I
Speaker 4: think a lot of them are going to go to
Speaker 4: Carnel Tate. So this is a guy that you can
Speaker 4: take as your wide receiver three that could give you
Speaker 4: wide receiver two upside as the leader of his team
Speaker 4: in Tennessee, and that is what makes him a value here.
Speaker 1: Sure, yeah, I like it, And you wonder with cam
Speaker 1: Ward the coaching last year was just such a mess
Speaker 1: in Tennessee with Brian Callahan that like, you know, it's
Speaker 1: not quite going from Eberflues to Ben Johnson like Caleb Williams,
Speaker 1: but it's not far. It's not far from it. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: talk about the mid round upside place. As I mentioned,
Speaker 1: both of you gonna choose to again this is look
Speaker 1: at ADP between round seven through ten again half PPR.
Speaker 1: I'm really trying to focus on like a team scheme
Speaker 1: coordinator change, something like that. Unlock weekly wide receiver two
Speaker 1: to three ceilings. Scott, We'll start with you this time.
Speaker 1: Who you got for us for this one?
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's Marvin Harrison. And I have been critical and
Speaker 4: I've been clipped and quoted as not liking Marvin Harrison.
Speaker 4: But I think what people missed when I said, look
Speaker 4: and I said this about twenty twenty six. This was
Speaker 4: a dynasty take. If Marvin Harrison isn't good in twenty
Speaker 4: twenty six, I think we need to be done for him,
Speaker 4: done with him for twenty twenty seven and beyond, because
Speaker 4: we're just gonna make another excuse. It's gonna be well,
Speaker 4: they're gonna get a real quarterback this year and blah
Speaker 4: blah blah blah blah. Look, if Marvin Harrison can't make
Speaker 4: it work with anybody in three seasons, and I think
Speaker 4: might be done with him. But I expect him, and
Speaker 4: this is the part that didn't get clipped. I expect
Speaker 4: him to have the breakout this year, right. And it's
Speaker 4: because you're bringing in a whole new offense, right. And
Speaker 4: I understand a lot of people like Michael Wilson, and
Speaker 4: Michael Wilson was good with Jacoby Brissett in particular, But
Speaker 4: how many of these games is Jacoby Brissett going to start?
Speaker 4: I think they're going to at least give the last
Speaker 4: five or six games to Carson Beck at the end
Speaker 4: of the year. And Carson Beck has been looking really good.
Speaker 4: All the reports are good about him. I'm not going
Speaker 4: to sit here and gush about Carson Beck. But everyone
Speaker 4: is playing for second behind Trey McBride in this offense. Right,
Speaker 4: But Marvin Harrison has already been said he's going to
Speaker 4: be the wide receiver in thirteen personnel. He's playing ahead
Speaker 4: of Michael Wilson. Even with his cramps the other day
Speaker 4: and everyone was worried about that, he still played in
Speaker 4: more snaps in that camp scrimmage than Michael Wilson did.
Speaker 4: I think this is going to be the breakout. I
Speaker 4: know he didn't work well with Brissett, but I think
Speaker 4: it's going to be a lot of Beck. I think
Speaker 4: this is the year to do it, and this offense
Speaker 4: really can open up if the offensive line can be fixed,
Speaker 4: if we could find a viable why quarterback here? Is
Speaker 4: it Brisset behind a better offensive line with a better
Speaker 4: run game with Jeremiah Love? Maybe could it be Carson
Speaker 4: back coming in here. Everyone disrespect him from Georgia. I
Speaker 4: understand that, but he goes to Miami. He turns the
Speaker 4: turnover machine off. So he had way less at Miami
Speaker 4: than he did at Georgia, and he brought his team
Speaker 4: all the way to the National championship. There's a little
Speaker 4: party niche to Carson Beck here just don't ask him
Speaker 4: to do too much. Let him throw to these amazing
Speaker 4: skill position players. Hand the ball off to Jeremiah Love
Speaker 4: a bunch, toss to him short, and this offense can hume.
Speaker 4: And they're gonna need to score points because the defense
Speaker 4: still sucks. They have a lot of work to do on.
Speaker 4: The defense is not fixed by any measure quite yet.
Speaker 4: Maybe better than last year, but not good overall, So
Speaker 4: they're gonna have to score points. I think Harrison takes
Speaker 4: a new step in a new offense, and he might
Speaker 4: get a new quarterback sooner rather than later. So I
Speaker 4: think a lot of signs point to a potential breakout
Speaker 4: for Marvin Harrison.
Speaker 3: But this is it.
Speaker 4: This is the last string I am giving Marvin Harrison.
Speaker 4: If he is not good after this year, I think
Speaker 4: I gotta be out.
Speaker 1: Last chance you for Marv Rickson, what do you think
Speaker 1: your three breakout for Marvin Harrison Junior.
Speaker 3: I don't know if we're going to see any breakouts
Speaker 3: on the Arizona Cardinals, Like that's my biggest concern. I
Speaker 3: know we had breakouts last year with Michael Wilson. Obviously,
Speaker 3: Trey McBride melted faces, but Rode already established himself the
Speaker 3: year before, so that wasn't as much as a breakout
Speaker 3: more of it just like, hey.
Speaker 2: This guy just ran so hot, finally scored touchdowns.
Speaker 4: Most passes in the NFL by allaw Yeah.
Speaker 3: Yeah right now, handhold them with Bonnix, right, just you
Speaker 3: know who was throwing the most passes last year. Now,
Speaker 3: the thing with Harrison for me is going back to
Speaker 3: the environmental factors. I know that we talked about this
Speaker 3: on I think it was a show that we also
Speaker 3: did box together, whereas like Marvin Harrison Junior versus Roma
Speaker 3: Dunsa and talking about who has a higher ceiling and
Speaker 3: if you just kind of the player agnostic and just
Speaker 3: look at do you want someone on the Bears or
Speaker 3: do you want someone on the Cardinals? Like which offense
Speaker 3: is more likely to just produce a monster performance that
Speaker 3: Oh who could forget that that player was that good
Speaker 3: this year. I'm not I'm leaving the door open for
Speaker 3: Marvin Harrison you to bet, because I mean the first
Speaker 3: two years have been really disappointing and something that I've
Speaker 3: been looking more at as I've been looking at some
Speaker 3: past historical ADP trying to find certain trends of, well,
Speaker 3: what is the market telling us about these certain players?
Speaker 3: Is it's not a very good indication when a wide
Speaker 3: receiver has fallen in ADP for three straight seasons, Like
Speaker 3: that is not a claim, Oh this is a bounce
Speaker 3: back opportunity. This is no, Like, this is going in
Speaker 3: the wrong direction when you look at your three players.
Speaker 3: When you talk about your three players, you talk about
Speaker 3: players that are.
Speaker 2: On the ascend.
Speaker 3: Does Marvin Harrison Junior feel like an ascending player? He
Speaker 3: feels like a player that we're just trying to hold
Speaker 3: out for hope for Like that's what gets me concerned.
Speaker 3: And this is like I thought about all this stuff
Speaker 3: before this drop crap was coming out. Again, everything always
Speaker 3: gets like yeah, like I'm not focused on that, Like
Speaker 3: I'm not trying to pile on or the quotes that
Speaker 3: he was like he's losing his confidence, Like I don't
Speaker 3: really care about that stuff. I'm looking specifically at historical
Speaker 3: data when it comes to players with this type of profile,
Speaker 3: it has not been beneficial to buying the dip on
Speaker 3: this player, and in fact, it more likely he continues
Speaker 3: to decline.
Speaker 2: So I do think Harrison Junior.
Speaker 3: Can be better this year, But is it a point
Speaker 3: where he has a top five fantasy ceiling. I don't
Speaker 3: know if that's going to exist with it in the
Speaker 3: context of the Arizona Cardinals. Again, I'm not trying to
Speaker 3: rain on box pick here, but again, Marvin Harrison Junior,
Speaker 3: he's he's a player. I've had a lot of trouble
Speaker 3: just like feeling really confident about clicking and any kind
Speaker 3: of drafts I've been doing this offseason so far.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's the offense. It's the change in the offense
Speaker 4: that I am looking forward to. And like I said,
Speaker 4: everyone's playing for the second fiddle behind Trey McBride, of course,
Speaker 4: but thirty first among wide receivers in half point ecr
Speaker 4: here a couple of guys behind him. I know you're
Speaker 4: you would take Parker Washington over him, Yes, yeah, I
Speaker 4: think so. What about Alec Pierce?
Speaker 3: Alec Pierce I have ranked below because I'm worried about
Speaker 3: him coming off of his injury.
Speaker 4: So BTJ Marv DK Metcalf, I.
Speaker 3: Don't want no part of d so again, like I think,
Speaker 3: person especially with him likely to fall again. I'm not
Speaker 3: saying he can't. Yeah, he did, but in terms of
Speaker 3: hey top five, top ten ceiling.
Speaker 2: I don't I don't know.
Speaker 4: Yeah, top ten ceiling might not be it. But I
Speaker 4: do think he could be a wide receiver two. Uh,
Speaker 4: that's being drafted as a wide receiver three right now,
Speaker 4: and that that is what And he hasn't broken out,
Speaker 4: like there's a lot left in there, but is it
Speaker 4: really in there? I think that's fair right, And the
Speaker 4: declining ADP is bad. I agree with you there, but
Speaker 4: I do think that now that he's had a proper ADP,
Speaker 4: now he's finally maybe he could be a value.
Speaker 3: Finally, maybe he can be a wide receiver three like
Speaker 3: where he's appropriately.
Speaker 4: Look, this is it for him, I'm saying, but I
Speaker 4: am the dummy putting on the makeup, you know, like
Speaker 4: the Kyle Pitts group going, you know what, this is
Speaker 4: the year, this is the year.
Speaker 2: Well wait, basically with Kyle Pitts was once everyone was
Speaker 2: finally done, then he.
Speaker 4: Hit yeah everybody but fits this was the only guy
Speaker 4: in life.
Speaker 2: Shah yeah, Well.
Speaker 1: Week fifteen cop hits. I mean, everybody's gonna remember whatever
Speaker 1: that week that was fifteen to sixteen never was ever better.
Speaker 1: Remember that. Well, one receiver that was mentioned, Parker Washington.
Speaker 1: I believe you have some thoughts on him.
Speaker 3: Ericson, Yeah, Parker Washington was kind of my big takeaway
Speaker 3: player when I went in It's on Fantasy spros right
Speaker 3: now identifying first time wide receiver ones, and Parker Washington
Speaker 3: was the player that really stood out to me the
Speaker 3: most when it comes to the boxes and thresholds that
Speaker 3: I'm looking for for a player poise to make that
Speaker 3: leap to be a top twelve fantasy receiver for the
Speaker 3: very first time. Something that I've looked at is players
Speaker 3: that are efficient after the catch while also seeing far
Speaker 3: targets down the field, because you think intuitively, it's harder
Speaker 3: for those players, right if you're seeing a lot of
Speaker 3: downfield targets, it's just harder for you to generate yards
Speaker 3: out to the catch. Well, Parker Washington was top thirty
Speaker 3: and both those categories last year, and both the yards
Speaker 3: out of the catch and average up of target. He
Speaker 3: was also very good at converting his air yards into
Speaker 3: actual receiving yards, ranked fifth in which is that metric?
Speaker 3: So for me, it's year four players. We saw three
Speaker 3: of these guys breakout last year for the very first time.
Speaker 3: Between pickens, Chris o'lave and who's the last guy that
Speaker 3: did it, Chris Olave, George Pickens, and Jameson Williams.
Speaker 2: It was James Williams, Michael Wiwis.
Speaker 3: It was his third year, Michael Wilson, but again that
Speaker 3: year four breakout archetype. We've seen him obviously thrive in
Speaker 3: the slot. That is where we've seen a ton of production.
Speaker 3: Going back to Chris Goden and Liam Cohen's offense with
Speaker 3: the Tama Bay Buccaneers, Chris Godwin before his injury was
Speaker 3: a top three scoring fantasy wide receiver, just absolutely on
Speaker 3: fire before he went down with an injury.
Speaker 2: Trevor Lawrence and Perker Washington, they have a connection, right.
Speaker 3: Parker Washington has been on the Jaguars for a long
Speaker 3: time with Trevor Lawrence as the quarterback, and I remember
Speaker 3: reading things coming out of Jags camp where the team,
Speaker 3: even before Liam Cohen was there, was really excited about
Speaker 3: Parker Washington taking over after the team was going to
Speaker 3: be done with Christian Kirk. And I think it got
Speaker 3: delayed a little bit because the Jaguars obviously go out
Speaker 3: and draft Travis Hunter.
Speaker 2: They play him in the slot to start the year.
Speaker 2: He obviously goes down.
Speaker 3: But then once Parker Washington was put into that starting role,
Speaker 3: I mean it was wheels up weeks nine through eighteen,
Speaker 3: fourteen point two points per game, led the team in
Speaker 3: air yards thirty two percent, aer yards share average, seventy
Speaker 3: three receiving yards per game, two point eight yards per
Speaker 3: rout run twenty five percent target rate just like pretty
Speaker 3: insane bunkers number twenty.
Speaker 2: Four year old player.
Speaker 3: So I get the hesitation behind it because there's so
Speaker 3: many miles to feed this Jaguars offense. You know, Travis
Speaker 3: Hunter are gonna like hurt his bottom line if he
Speaker 3: just plays even a handful of snaps on offense. Still,
Speaker 3: it's taking away targets from a player that also operates
Speaker 3: from the slot. Can betj return to his rookie year form?
Speaker 3: And I know that Boggs and I both agree that
Speaker 3: Jacoby Myers is just like underrated across the board, But
Speaker 3: when you look at the ceiling play, I think that
Speaker 3: it is Parker Washington based on the fact that he
Speaker 3: has geled so well with Trevor Lawrence we saw in
Speaker 3: the second half of last season, and if he wasn't
Speaker 3: a sixth round draft pick, I think we would be
Speaker 3: much higher on if he had been a Day two
Speaker 3: pick a round three, round two guy. I don't think
Speaker 3: the hesitation, Oh well, how good is he really? I
Speaker 3: think he showed us last year how good he can be.
Speaker 3: And last point I want to make is again a
Speaker 3: lot of his production came with guys were injured. This
Speaker 3: was a case that was used against Amon Roussaint Brown
Speaker 3: and during his second season where he only did it
Speaker 3: because everyone got hurt. Well, there's plenty of guys, trust me,
Speaker 3: I've been there playing DFS. Oh, I'm gonna play this
Speaker 3: guy bottom salary because everybody's out. And then they just
Speaker 3: go out and just lay at Goose Egg and they
Speaker 3: do absolutely nothing. And it's not a guarantee that guys
Speaker 3: produce when another teammate missed his time. So again it's
Speaker 3: not an apples to apples comparison compared to the Sun God,
Speaker 3: but something that I just wanted to keep in mind that, hey,
Speaker 3: give credit where credit is due.
Speaker 2: He smashed.
Speaker 3: They're really excited about him. And again to quote the
Speaker 3: coach speak, Greg Brainis does a great job. Go make
Speaker 3: sure you go subject to his discord, but for him,
Speaker 3: he talked about how Liam Cohen. Parker Washington is the
Speaker 3: first man in the building. He is a five am grinder.
Speaker 3: That's where he's going. So I think this guy's gonna
Speaker 3: get paid sooner rather than later. I think he's going
Speaker 3: to be the Jaguars number one wide receiver this year.
Speaker 3: So for me high on Ti Law this year, I
Speaker 3: think you should high on park Washington as well, because
Speaker 3: I think the upside is there.
Speaker 1: Yeah, definitely some value in Jacksonville this year because I
Speaker 1: think the guys an're really going that high considering how
Speaker 1: well the offense did last year. Scott, you went on
Speaker 1: Parker Washington, anybody else in Jacksonville that you think might
Speaker 1: might take away some of those targets.
Speaker 4: So this is how I recently compared the Jacksonville Jaguars
Speaker 4: scenario to something in my life. You ever go into
Speaker 4: a casino, right, and you see the games that you
Speaker 4: don't know how to play at all, and you watch
Speaker 4: somebody else play. That's what I'm doing with the Jaguars
Speaker 4: situation this year. I'm acting like it's backer rat right,
Speaker 4: Like I don't know what to do here. I'm just
Speaker 4: gonna watch somebody else play and watch on the sideline.
Speaker 4: I can't figure out the an appropriate level to jump
Speaker 4: in on the Jaguars, because I think Parker Washington has
Speaker 4: the most upside, right, But BTJ is going to play
Speaker 4: in thirteen personnel? How much thirteen personnel are we using?
Speaker 4: Since we drafted Borcature and Cozy All and extended Brenton Strange,
Speaker 4: Jacoby Myers came in and played more snaps than Parker Washington.
Speaker 4: They're keeping Parker Washington as the punt return, which is
Speaker 4: something you typically don't do with some of your best
Speaker 4: weapons on offense. So it all looks like a Ouiji
Speaker 4: board to me, and I don't know how it works,
Speaker 4: so I have been basically just avoiding. I think I
Speaker 4: have every Jaguars wide receiver under ECR except I'm right
Speaker 4: on ECR for Jacobe Myers at forty four, so I'm
Speaker 4: probably just not going to be I'm gonna draft Tee
Speaker 4: law a bunch, but that's probably gonna be it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, the answer could just be Trevor Lawrence Ray. It
Speaker 1: will be the answer. But yeah, we did talk about
Speaker 1: Liam Cohen's slot receiver from twenty four still on the Buccaneers.
Speaker 1: Chris Godwin Scott, I believe you have some thoughts on him.
Speaker 4: Yeah, same deal as Mike Evans. But Godwin is wide receiver,
Speaker 4: the first wide receiver four at thirty seven. Right now,
Speaker 4: he's another year removed from that brutal broken fibula. The
Speaker 4: Bucks moved on from Mike Evans in favor of the
Speaker 4: rookie book of Godwin and Jayleen McMillan. But let us
Speaker 4: not forget that Chris Godwin had a stretch on three
Speaker 4: of three state seasons with eighty three at least eighty
Speaker 4: three catches in the thy twenty three yards before the
Speaker 4: broken fibula in twenty twenty four. All reports indicate that
Speaker 4: he was sharp and smooth coming back in OTAs. I
Speaker 4: expect him to be much closer to the prime Godwin than,
Speaker 4: you know, the guy that was that we saw last
Speaker 4: year who really came back too soon. Another thing that
Speaker 4: we're talking about with these Pollyanna injuries, right, a lot
Speaker 4: of times you rush these guys back too soon and
Speaker 4: they do not work out. I feel like that is
Speaker 4: exactly what happened with Chris Godwin last season. But he's
Speaker 4: not ancient. He just turned thirty in February. In that
Speaker 4: stretch of you know, the eighty three in oneenty twenty
Speaker 4: three minimum. He's finished as wide receiver seventeen twenty and
Speaker 4: thirty one, so never below a wide receiver three at
Speaker 4: any point in a wide receiver two in twenty one
Speaker 4: and twenty two, and that was because he was low
Speaker 4: in touchdowns because that was when Mike Evans had thirty
Speaker 4: three touchdowns in that stretch and I believe Chris Godwin
Speaker 4: had ten and he's gone. So you know, I think,
Speaker 4: and I have a BUCA ranks higher I do. You know,
Speaker 4: there's some camps that are way in love with Chris
Speaker 4: Godwin and think he's going to be the number one
Speaker 4: wide receiver on the Bucks. I'm not quite there. I
Speaker 4: think it's going to be Agbuka, but I do think
Speaker 4: that another year removed from this injury, with no Mike Evans,
Speaker 4: I think his reception and his touchdowns are going to
Speaker 4: improve exponentially this season from what they were last year
Speaker 4: because he's not dealing with that and he doesn't have
Speaker 4: Mike Evans to deal with. So I just think there's
Speaker 4: a lot of volume that is going to be moved
Speaker 4: towards Chris Godwin this season, and we've seen him handle
Speaker 4: it before and handle it well. Liam Cohen loves Chris Godwin,
Speaker 4: and I think him being healthy is a part of
Speaker 4: the reason they were They walked on Mike Evans, and
Speaker 4: I know Mike Evans was frustrated specifically last year. You
Speaker 4: could see it. I think it was week fifteen where
Speaker 4: he was throwing his hands up and it looked like
Speaker 4: he was about done with his Bucks adventure. But I
Speaker 4: think Chris Godwin will have a great year and we
Speaker 4: know that scortch shirts Baker Mayfield is a fun thing
Speaker 4: to watch and we are going to get it this season.
Speaker 1: Yeah, coming off of the disappointing last year where he
Speaker 1: was I feel like he had like seven injuries last year,
Speaker 1: starting early than the contract situation. So ericson, no, you don't,
Speaker 1: you're not in on the Baker in the Bucks.
Speaker 3: This, I mean I was like a sign because he
Speaker 3: was so banged up last year and you know, yeah,
Speaker 3: you would know more about it if you guys been
Speaker 3: watching the Quarterback documentary on Netflix. I think it was
Speaker 3: like week four, week five. His bicep is just like
Speaker 3: totally black and blue after hit he played in the
Speaker 3: Jets game. So that was like really early in the season,
Speaker 3: and then we get way more injuries he's playing with,
Speaker 3: and that coincided with Egbuka's dramatic falloff in the second
Speaker 3: half of the season. So agreed, you want to be
Speaker 3: high on these Buccaneers players, I think relative to their
Speaker 3: ADP because Baker Mayfield when he's an underdog, when he's
Speaker 3: being counted out, when he's playing for a contract. Man,
Speaker 3: the Buccaneers are definitely rolling the dice because they're taking
Speaker 3: a big risk, but they're also guaranteeing we're gonna get
Speaker 3: production from quarterback this year whether and it's just a
Speaker 3: matter of can Baker stay healthy? Right. I think that's
Speaker 3: the reason why they haven't signed him into a long
Speaker 3: term deal yet is because hey, man, you play like
Speaker 3: your hair's on fire, and we love it. But from
Speaker 3: a contractal like standpoint as an organization, if we're going
Speaker 3: to sign you through a multi year deal, you've got
Speaker 3: to show you can stay healthy and take care of
Speaker 3: your body. Which, again, the way he plays recklessly a
Speaker 3: little bit at times, it's part of his game. It's
Speaker 3: part of what makes him Baker Mayfield. And it's gonna
Speaker 3: be fun to watch him suit up on Sundays for sure.
Speaker 1: Yeah, for sure. We got one more wide receiver Erickson
Speaker 1: take us home.
Speaker 3: I'm also going with another rookie wide receiver. I'm really
Speaker 3: glad that Boggs did bring up Cardonel Tate earlier in
Speaker 3: the show, because he was someone I was also really considering.
Speaker 3: But I went one step down to a player going
Speaker 3: a little bit cheaper with Jordan Tyson. But both players
Speaker 3: were drafted inside the top ten as rookies. I think
Speaker 3: that this is just a glaring mistake in the market
Speaker 3: right now, where you're looking at just average production of
Speaker 3: receivers that are drafted top ten last five drafts average
Speaker 3: seventy eight catches over one thousand yards and six point four.
Speaker 2: Touchdowns as rookies.
Speaker 3: That means that just based on averages, Cornel Tay and
Speaker 3: Jordan Tyson are screening values where they're going right now
Speaker 3: just to meet expectation. And then you have the potential of, oh, well,
Speaker 3: if this guy is just the next Jefferson or Chase
Speaker 3: or one of those types of players. And I'm not
Speaker 3: saying that's exactly how these things shake out, but these
Speaker 3: rookies have unknown potential, like we don't know how they're
Speaker 3: going to do. But I feel really confident about Jordan
Speaker 3: Tyson when he is healthy again. Eighth overall pick this
Speaker 3: last year to the New Orleans Saints. Nine healthy games
Speaker 3: in twenty twenty five, second in the nation, and targets
Speaker 3: absolute dominant target chair at thirty five percent. We know
Speaker 3: the injuries have obviously held him back, but so far,
Speaker 3: at least at the start training camp, he's out there.
Speaker 2: The hamstring doesn't seem to be bothering.
Speaker 3: So I was retweeting setting out the prayer emojis because
Speaker 3: I'm like, yes, we have someone that we don't have
Speaker 3: a Ricky pearsall kind of incident here going on. Jordan
Speaker 3: Tyson is out there and he's healthy so far, and
Speaker 3: when I look at offenses that could take that next step, well,
Speaker 3: the Saints are are one of those teams.
Speaker 2: Tyler Shuck helped Chris olave.
Speaker 3: Break into the fantasy wide receiver one territory for the
Speaker 3: very first time in his career and nearly played half
Speaker 3: of last season and last year before chichiet was traded
Speaker 3: to the Seahawks. He and Chris Olavey were both seeing
Speaker 3: a ton of volume. They were combining for seventeen targets
Speaker 3: per game. Shaheed alongside a lave last year before he
Speaker 3: got traded, was fifteenth in the NFL and wide receiver targets.
Speaker 3: So although Jordan Tyson is the number two on this offense,
Speaker 3: I think the number two in this offense is still
Speaker 3: going to see a ton of volumes. So combining that
Speaker 3: as an elite wide receiver prospect, someone I think is
Speaker 3: going to gel stylistically very well with what Tyler Shuck does.
Speaker 3: I'm really excited. And we just look at the schedule
Speaker 3: right for the Saints, two really tough matchups to open
Speaker 3: the year, but on the road at Detroit against a
Speaker 3: very leaky secondary that still has injuries from last year.
Speaker 3: You you better draft Jordan Tyson because he might it
Speaker 3: might not be taken very long for everyone to know
Speaker 3: him after week one.
Speaker 1: Or trade for him after those first two top weeks drafted.
Speaker 3: Yes, well, I mean, I mean well Week one is
Speaker 3: Week one should be really good. Again, point out Lions
Speaker 3: and in the game it would be pretty high scoring.
Speaker 2: Yeah excited?
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Speaker 1: That's the last segment that we have here. Two receivers
Speaker 1: eat taken outside of the top ten according to get
Speaker 1: half PPR ECR ericson will start with you on this one.
Speaker 3: So the reason I didn't include Colonel Tate on my
Speaker 3: list because I included his teammate Wandell Robinson here, and
Speaker 3: this just seems like such a bad, like high ceiling player.
Speaker 2: It's Wandell Robinson. All he does, He's a PPR slot merchant.
Speaker 3: Like there's no upside attached to him, and that's kind
Speaker 3: of how I felt earlier this offseason. But we just
Speaker 3: look at how productive Wandell Robinson has been in Brian
Speaker 3: Davil offenses. There are not that many guys that have
Speaker 3: had at least one hundred and thirty targets in back
Speaker 3: to back seasons the two consecutive seasons. That list is
Speaker 3: Jamar Chase. I'm on rus Saint Brown, Jacksonith and Jake,
Speaker 3: but justin Jefferson and Wandell Robinson, right, I mean, like,
Speaker 3: come on, like I get that not all targets are
Speaker 3: created equally, and a lot of it was just like spamming,
Speaker 3: Especially in twenty twenty four, it was just a lot
Speaker 3: of spamming underneath targets for Wandall Robinson. But last year
Speaker 3: we saw him actually use a little bit more downfield.
Speaker 3: His average up the target nearly doubled. He was nineteenth
Speaker 3: in the NFL in deep targets, So I think he
Speaker 3: can do a little bit more, and he was rewarded
Speaker 3: handsomely by the Tennessee Titans that we need to get
Speaker 3: weapons for our number one wide receiver or for our
Speaker 3: number one quarterback in cam war. Now they took him
Speaker 3: in free agency. They obviously drafted Carnal Tate. But the
Speaker 3: thing that I didn't realize until just kind of diving
Speaker 3: more into it was Wandell Robinson had over one hundred
Speaker 3: and thirty targets in an offense when Malik Neighbors was
Speaker 3: a rookie, so and he was still a Fantasy wide receiver.
Speaker 3: For he's like wide receiver forty one, but he's still
Speaker 3: caught over ninety two passes. He's done that for two
Speaker 3: consecutive seasons, and now he's going later than he did
Speaker 3: that year in twenty twenty four, when Carnel Tate, another rookie,
Speaker 3: is also his main competition for targets. And maybe you
Speaker 3: guys would disagree with me. I don't think Tate is
Speaker 3: anywhere near the prospect that Melik Neighbors is. I understand
Speaker 3: that they're both top picks, but I think that Wandos
Speaker 3: is kind of being undervalued a lot. And I get
Speaker 3: it's because they brought in Tate, But if Tate is
Speaker 3: not an alpha number one Melik Neighbors esqual, then there's
Speaker 3: a scenario where one of Robinson just becomes the number
Speaker 3: one target leader in this offense. Because that's exactly what
Speaker 3: has been the case when Brian Dable has been calling
Speaker 3: the shots. Who's the new offensive coordinator in Tennessee. So
Speaker 3: this was something that kind of came to light when
Speaker 3: I was doing my wide Receiver one breakout articles where
Speaker 3: one that was pretty close last year. No, he was
Speaker 3: on the cusp heps of top fifteen guys, especially in
Speaker 3: full PPR. Now didn't quite crack the top twelve, but
Speaker 3: he checks off a lot of boxes of that player
Speaker 3: on a new team becoming a wide receiver one for
Speaker 3: the very first time, very reminiscent of when Christian Kirk
Speaker 3: went to the Jacksonville Jaguars.
Speaker 2: And everyone was like, why did they sign Christian Kirk?
Speaker 2: What are they doing? And then he just had a
Speaker 2: monster season.
Speaker 3: So if Carl Tate doesn't hit right away or takes
Speaker 3: him a little bit of time, I think one of
Speaker 3: Robinson going as wide receiver fifty. I think that again,
Speaker 3: if I had to make a lock for who's going
Speaker 3: to beat their eightp no matter what, it would be
Speaker 3: one of Robinson.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Scott, I know, I know you're on tape, but
Speaker 1: what do you think about Robinson as well?
Speaker 4: I have won one Dale at thirty nine, So yeah,
Speaker 4: that's good.
Speaker 5: I am.
Speaker 4: I got crushed last year for two takes, right, two
Speaker 4: giants takes. It was Wandale and can Scataboo. So look,
Speaker 4: I had bad takes last year. I'm not gonna sit
Speaker 4: here and say that everything I said was correct, right,
Speaker 4: but I got crushed in the comments for those and
Speaker 4: they both worked out well. And the thing about Wandale
Speaker 4: was our boy Seely specifically gave me crap. He said
Speaker 4: how much more can he do? And I was like,
Speaker 4: why do I need him to do anymore? I don't
Speaker 4: need him to do anymore. I need him to do
Speaker 4: what he did in twenty twenty four, in twenty twenty five.
Speaker 4: And in the Brian Dable offense, the tight end is
Speaker 4: the safety blanket. And I think that Ward and Tate
Speaker 4: compliment each other perfectly. Here we have the deep threat
Speaker 4: in Tate and the dominant thread in Tate. You have
Speaker 4: that underneath safety blanket, grab it and go Wandale Robinson target.
Speaker 4: So this is exactly what Dable wants. This is why
Speaker 4: I brought him. So I think Wandale fits perfectly. He
Speaker 4: already knows all system. And I think as long as
Speaker 4: Ward is as good as I thought he was going
Speaker 4: to be coming in. I think this is going to
Speaker 4: be a success again.
Speaker 3: Boggs, would you be opposed to taking both Tate and
Speaker 3: Wandale in the same team knowing that, okay, maybe if
Speaker 3: Tate starts slowing any capacity, but you have one Dale
Speaker 3: to kind of be the guy that kind of guides
Speaker 3: you along the way, and then Carnel Tate is your
Speaker 3: second half smash when he starts to get a little
Speaker 3: bit more accustomed to the NFL. Because I'm really open
Speaker 3: to doing that because they're both underpriced based on what
Speaker 3: I'm expecting from this Titans passing game, especially with Cam
Speaker 3: wore in a year two.
Speaker 4: It's not I don't like doing that in general, but
Speaker 4: it's not the worst stack I've ever heard of, and
Speaker 4: it's not you know, sometimes you run into bye week
Speaker 4: issues if you have two guys at the same position
Speaker 4: on the same team. But I no, I don't have
Speaker 4: like I'm not fighting against it. I can tell you
Speaker 4: that much. I love One Dale. I think Tate is
Speaker 4: gonna is going to pop out here, so I am
Speaker 4: absolutely on board with that.
Speaker 1: All I'm here is Camboord's sleeper quarterback this year. And
Speaker 1: if you're like GT League something like that, maybe cam
Speaker 1: Ord very oft right, Yeah, Scott, what do you got
Speaker 1: for us?
Speaker 4: How about Jaden Higgins? Jayden Higgins, his ADP is one
Speaker 4: point fifty. I have been won twenty one overall. He
Speaker 4: was wide receiver twenty nine after Week eight, and that
Speaker 4: was with only three games of over seventy percent snap
Speaker 4: share in that stretch he had. Of ten games, he
Speaker 4: finished as a wide receiver three twice, a wide receiver
Speaker 4: two four times, and a wide receiver won once ninth
Speaker 4: in Championship Week. The Texans have three new starting offensive
Speaker 4: linemen and lots of depth on that line now that
Speaker 4: was obviously the problem last season, and improved run game
Speaker 4: with David Montgomery should make Stroud look way better. Della
Speaker 4: is back, but Kirk is gone, and we know Nico
Speaker 4: Collins has this sordid injury history. Higgins has been highlighted
Speaker 4: as the Texans standout early through camp. Demiko Ryan said
Speaker 4: he's a guy that can make plays at every level.
Speaker 4: He can move around the formation, and he is already
Speaker 4: seeing a second year jump for Jayden Hi Higgins. I
Speaker 4: think coming in we were kind of okay, which ioways
Speaker 4: state guys are going to beat Because you took Nico
Speaker 4: Collins junior Jayden Higgins on the same team as Nico Collins,
Speaker 4: it looked like that slot role was going to be
Speaker 4: in way more need So Jalen Nole, I feel like
Speaker 4: last season going in got a little more love than
Speaker 4: Jayden Higgins did, but obviously got beat by Christian Kirk
Speaker 4: for that role. Didn't play a lot and Higgins was
Speaker 4: in there after you know, Nico went down and Xavier
Speaker 4: Hutchinson was banged up after that as well, so we
Speaker 4: saw a lot of Jayden Higgins. I think he's going
Speaker 4: to take a big step this year. I think this
Speaker 4: offense is going to be better what you really want
Speaker 4: from Higgins as scores. He's a big frame guy. He
Speaker 4: can score a lot of touchdowns. And I think they
Speaker 4: are going to approve on offense specifically because the on
Speaker 4: line is better and you know, I know they're gonna
Speaker 4: be running a lot in the second half, but you know,
Speaker 4: I think Higgins can score touchdowns, which is exactly what
Speaker 4: you're gonna want from him.
Speaker 1: Sure, yeah, ericonly want to get your thoughts, But Scott,
Speaker 1: I'm just wondering, did you adjust your rankings slightly when
Speaker 1: you saw CJ's drob walking into camp looking like he
Speaker 1: was like a thirteen year old showing up to middle
Speaker 1: school for the first time.
Speaker 4: You know what, I didn't adjust for that, and I
Speaker 4: also didn't adjust for Beeshawn Robinson's aircut.
Speaker 1: So okay, fair enough. Ericson you went on Jadan Higgins
Speaker 1: or you think it's gonna be second year receiver Jalen Nole.
Speaker 2: Well, Nole's on the NFI list right now.
Speaker 3: He's dealing with a finger injury, and it does concern
Speaker 3: me that from a Nole perspective, if you want to
Speaker 3: be bullish on Nole, that does he have some overlap
Speaker 3: in terms of Tanked Dell's skill set, because it seems
Speaker 3: like the team is ready to at least put Tank
Speaker 3: Tel back out there. I don't know in what capacity
Speaker 3: if he's going to be a full time player, just
Speaker 3: because he's coming off some of these brutal injuries and
Speaker 3: he's an undersized player as well, So I think that
Speaker 3: does kind of hurt the ceiling a little bit for Nole,
Speaker 3: who I do agree, I think, still a really talented guy,
Speaker 3: but just so annoying last year they were playing him
Speaker 3: behind Christian Kirk for so long and even last year
Speaker 3: too with Xapher Hutchinson. Get this guy off the field,
Speaker 3: like this guy is a net negative for this entire offense.
Speaker 3: I get that he's a grinder blocking, but if CJ.
Speaker 3: Strous dropped back to the throw, you got to get
Speaker 3: him his best receivers out there, and that does not
Speaker 3: include Xavier Hutchinson. So Jayden Higgins, I think right now,
Speaker 3: is probably being drafted where his floor is. I can't
Speaker 3: necessarily guarantee that he'll hit the ceiling because we just
Speaker 3: haven't seen the elite version of c J. Stroud, but
Speaker 3: if that guy returns at any point, then Jayden Higgins
Speaker 3: has a ton of upside, especially if there's an injury
Speaker 3: to Nico Collins, where to Bog's point, he's Nico Collins junior,
Speaker 3: So if he is in that Nico Collins role, Okay,
Speaker 3: now you're looking at a player that we would be
Speaker 3: ranking ast the top twenty, maybe even top fifteen guy
Speaker 3: on a week to week basis. So you have his
Speaker 3: standalone role, which I think is going to at least
Speaker 3: provide return on where you draft him in the wide
Speaker 3: receiver fifty range, and then you have that contingent upside.
Speaker 3: You know, if Collins does come up a little bit
Speaker 3: after a route, hurts his hamstring or something like that happens,
Speaker 3: then I think that you're cooking with gas here and
Speaker 3: we're getting c J. Shroud entering his second season. We
Speaker 3: were drafting three Texans receivers inside the top thirty three,
Speaker 3: between Tank, Dell, Stefan, Niggs and Nico Collins. And obviously
Speaker 3: it was a disaster because they appraision, so they all
Speaker 3: got injured and it was just a little mess. But
Speaker 3: at least shines a light on there is that ceiling
Speaker 3: case with Stroud coming back and returning to that rookie
Speaker 3: year form, and Higgins would be a great benefactor. Maybe
Speaker 3: Higgins is the reason why you get to see CJ.
Speaker 3: Stroud return to that form.
Speaker 4: In this team. It has to drop draft Rock go
Speaker 4: back next year. He's works with everybody. It's the offense.
Speaker 2: Yeah, where the bathrooms are, you'll know the facility.
Speaker 4: That'll be great. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I just would have fallen from Grace, Bobby Slow a CJ.
Speaker 1: Strowd After that rookie year, everybody thought they're gonna take
Speaker 1: over the league. And yes, since then, but all right,
Speaker 1: Ericson what else you got for.
Speaker 3: Us, I'm going with my favorite sleeper going really really
Speaker 3: deep in drafts, Trey Harris for the Los Angeles Chargers.
Speaker 3: So he is wide receiver seventy four and ADP And
Speaker 3: this was a cool stat I found from my again
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Speaker 3: go for checking out on Fantasy Pros. We've averaged at
Speaker 3: least one new wide receiver one from outside the top
Speaker 3: fifty receivers in ADP in each of the last three seasons.
Speaker 3: So as crazy as it seems that a wide receiver
Speaker 3: one top twelve finisher would come this slate outside the
Speaker 3: top fifty, it's actually happening like once per year. So
Speaker 3: you actually have to kind of look and see, well,
Speaker 3: could I paid the case for a player like this
Speaker 3: doing that? And for me, Trey Harris, the reason he
Speaker 3: looks like that potential player is this Mike Daniel offense
Speaker 3: coming into the Los Angeles Chargers were all excited, right,
Speaker 3: That's why these Chargers players are going up and up
Speaker 3: and up in ADP. And look, I don't disagree with
Speaker 3: the order of the receivers being drafted. Goes lad goes
Speaker 3: QJ and then goes Trey Harris. But if you asked Harbaugh, right, hey,
Speaker 3: do you think that these ADPs makes sense for the
Speaker 3: charge receivers? I ben't even say like they should all
Speaker 3: be the same. Like these guys, I love all of
Speaker 3: these guys just like I love all my kids. So
Speaker 3: he would probably look at a little bit differently. And
Speaker 3: I think that that just at least creates the idea
Speaker 3: of some value on Trey Harris as okay, didn't do
Speaker 3: a ton as a rookie, but the offense last year
Speaker 3: for the Chargers at times was broken again justin Herbert
Speaker 3: was broken, the offensive line was broken. So I don't
Speaker 3: think Trey Harris really had a chance to showcase a
Speaker 3: lot of what he did at old men. But he
Speaker 3: was great coming out of Ole Miss super eliting yards
Speaker 3: per round run, second round pick. And I do think
Speaker 3: that he did enough during his rookie year twenty fifth
Speaker 3: yards after the catch per reception. That's pretty good. We
Speaker 3: know that he can be a deep threat, that he
Speaker 3: can take the top off the ball. I think that
Speaker 3: the way that they talk about him, they really love
Speaker 3: his run blocking. I think that at least gives him
Speaker 3: an avenue of snaps in playing time and once he
Speaker 3: gets on the field, I mean all bets are off
Speaker 3: because we didn't know this office is going to be
Speaker 3: in scoring position more often than not. So for me,
Speaker 3: Trey Harris, I think he's a free bet, a cheap
Speaker 3: access point to this high powered Chargers offense. I think
Speaker 3: he'd have more of an expanded role than many of
Speaker 3: us are thinking and maybe just went injury away from Hey, No,
Speaker 3: he's our guy in our heavy tight end personnel, like
Speaker 3: he's our isolate X receiver and that can give him
Speaker 3: a lot of opportunities. So for me, Trey Harris, where
Speaker 3: he's going. Yeah, I love him as one of my
Speaker 3: favorite sleepers this year with a high upside. Yeah.
Speaker 1: The Chargers offense in general is interesting, going from Gromman
Speaker 1: to McDaniel, getting Slater and Joe old Back really can't
Speaker 1: like it's hard to really put numbers on that looking
Speaker 1: at last year this year. So Scott, what do you
Speaker 1: think about charges this year and Trey Harris specifically.
Speaker 4: Here's a number I like, one hundred and twenty two
Speaker 4: targets gone from Keenan Allen. Right, So there's a lot
Speaker 4: of a lot more upside here for these past catchers
Speaker 4: this season with all of those targets from Keenan Allen
Speaker 4: gone to the wayside. So Trey Harris, you know a
Speaker 4: lot like I talked about the fit with Carnell Tait
Speaker 4: and cam Ward when Justin Herbert got a dude like
Speaker 4: Trey Harris who is a amazing deep threat at Old Miss,
Speaker 4: like him and Jackson Dart really connected very well at
Speaker 4: Old Miss. If anybody knows the way that Justin Herbert
Speaker 4: works with the football with these rainbow passes, this is
Speaker 4: something that is going to create some amazing highlights. Even
Speaker 4: if Trey Harris doesn't pan out as we think he does,
Speaker 4: there's gonna be some highlights in there of some gorgeous
Speaker 4: deep balls to Drey Harris this season. So a lot there.
Speaker 4: You know, the pollyanninous of every single player in this offense.
Speaker 4: You know, Brendan Thompson thinks QJ is gonna light the
Speaker 4: world on fire. Brendan Thompson is uh, you know, the
Speaker 4: fastest ever and he's gonna be the next Tyreek Kill
Speaker 4: and all that stuff. I calm down on that a
Speaker 4: little bit, but I think the guy who is going
Speaker 4: to take the biggest step is definitely going to be
Speaker 4: Trey Harris any way you cut it right? Could he
Speaker 4: pass QJ? I have no doubt that he could pass
Speaker 4: QJ in this offense.
Speaker 2: I mean, that's gonna happen last year.
Speaker 4: You have all you have QJ. Like these guys have
Speaker 4: been in this system for a while. The system is
Speaker 4: new to everybody now, right, So who fits better for
Speaker 4: Mike McDaniel and who has the better skill set in
Speaker 4: Trey Harrison QJ. I think we know QJ has done
Speaker 4: this before and it's looked better, and we know the
Speaker 4: one flaw in him is catching the football. But I
Speaker 4: always go back to one of my favorite lines in
Speaker 4: Apollo thirteen when they're trying to figure out what they
Speaker 4: can turn on and off when they're using the power
Speaker 4: and he goes, well, cut the parachute something. He goes, John,
Speaker 4: the parachutes don't go off. What is the point of
Speaker 4: all of this? And that is Hugh J. You know,
Speaker 4: you know drops don't matter until they do, right. I
Speaker 4: don't care about the occasional drop drops in camp don't matter.
Speaker 4: When you get yanked off the field because of your drops,
Speaker 4: that's when it matters. And I think QJ is one
Speaker 4: of the guys that we all look at and go
Speaker 4: two or three in a game and then yanking him
Speaker 4: right out for a guy like Trey Harris, you you
Speaker 4: know as Tony Romo Tatus. It is a meritocracy. You
Speaker 4: have the merit staying on the field, so and in
Speaker 4: the driver's seat.
Speaker 3: Sure.
Speaker 1: Well, a couple of notes. I have Thompson in the
Speaker 1: Dynasty League that I just drafted in, so if if
Speaker 1: he ends up turning in Tyrey Kill, I'm okay with that.
Speaker 1: But I'm just curious. What do you guys think about
Speaker 1: lat What do you guys think about Ladd? I know
Speaker 1: we didn't come up in this show at all, but
Speaker 1: with the new offense and how good he was his
Speaker 1: rookie year to how disappointing he was last year. Obviously
Speaker 1: Keenan Alan had a lot to do with that, I'm
Speaker 1: just just around. I'm curiosity. What do you guys think
Speaker 1: about Ladd?
Speaker 2: I really like that a lot.
Speaker 3: I still think that he has an extremely high ceiling.
Speaker 3: He was someone that I was also considering putting in
Speaker 3: this show sheet as a player catching his charters off,
Speaker 3: but just looking out, okay, can I get the cheapest
Speaker 3: access point would be Trey Harrison. Even Quinn Johnson is
Speaker 3: obviously cheaper than Lad McConkie that rookie year, I think
Speaker 3: just if you just remove Keenan Allen, what was the
Speaker 3: biggest difference between rookie year Laddi McConkie and second year
Speaker 3: Lad McConkie was Keenan Allen and him having a relationship
Speaker 3: with Justin Herbert. So I think that really just that
Speaker 3: really hurt the bullish case last year. And I'm guilty
Speaker 3: of this as a lot of us were like we
Speaker 3: just didn't buy into it enough where it was like, oh,
Speaker 3: they signed keen Allen, Oh he's dust, like he's old,
Speaker 3: but he had a relationship with Justin Herbert, Like these
Speaker 3: guys are caught pass and target are target and Keenan
Speaker 3: led the team in targets last year. So that's really
Speaker 3: I think hurt Ladd the most, especially when you're operating
Speaker 3: over the short intermedia the field, especially on third downs.
Speaker 3: I think Lad's gonna be the third down guy this
Speaker 3: year and really move the chains, be that inside and
Speaker 3: outside guy for Justin Herbert and Mike McDaniel has just
Speaker 3: put guys in position where Tyreek kill Jamon Wattle look
Speaker 3: at all their yards per rout run. They may not
Speaker 3: have been hundred percent rough participation players, but when they
Speaker 3: were on the field, they were very, very efficient, and
Speaker 3: that's all Lad McConkie has been at the college level
Speaker 3: and at the NFL level, especially during his rookie year,
Speaker 3: so I'm also really high on Ladd. I actually was
Speaker 3: struggling though about Ladd versus Jaalen Wattle and kind.
Speaker 2: Of moving them in my rankings. I'm like, I like
Speaker 2: Wat more like ladmore.
Speaker 3: So I think I moved Wattle one spot ahead of
Speaker 3: Ladd McConkie, and I don't know if I want to
Speaker 3: do that in bogs?
Speaker 2: Are you for me on one side of the other between.
Speaker 4: One not firmly? I have Ladd at twenty and I
Speaker 4: have Wattle at twenty one, so I have them next
Speaker 4: to each other. I have Jay flowers out of both
Speaker 4: of them. Yes, But I think the nice thing about
Speaker 4: Mike McDaniel and his offense is that he is going
Speaker 4: to tailor it to the players. Unlike other offensive coordinators
Speaker 4: who say I need a guy that fits you know,
Speaker 4: Brian Dabole, you more need to fit into his system.
Speaker 4: That's why he goes and he gets familiarity in Wandelle
Speaker 4: Robinson and drafts. A guy like Carnell tATu has a
Speaker 4: similar skill set to Malak Neighbors. Right, these are dominant
Speaker 4: players as well. You have to be dominant in the
Speaker 4: NFL to make it, but you have to fit his system.
Speaker 4: I think McDaniel really Tailor's That's why eight Chan has worked.
Speaker 4: Tyreek Hill's work, Wattle has worked. This guy has made
Speaker 4: these guys work very well. I'm excited about Hampton, I'm
Speaker 4: excited about Neighbors. The only guy I'm really not excited
Speaker 4: about in this offense is Aronde Gadsden because he did
Speaker 4: like a quarter of his production in two games. So
Speaker 4: that is the only guy that I don't see. The
Speaker 4: absolute ceiling.
Speaker 3: For finding Finding the right players for the Chargers is
Speaker 3: going to be really key because when you look at
Speaker 3: their they play the Arizona Cardinals week one, right, so
Speaker 3: this is like a scenario where they come out and
Speaker 3: put a forty.
Speaker 4: Burger on trade everybody after Week one.
Speaker 3: Look, we saw Mike McDaniel, how long ago was it
Speaker 3: put up seventy points on opposing on the broncos if
Speaker 3: he smells blood in the water man, Look, this guy
Speaker 3: wants to be a head coach, and how do you
Speaker 3: get noticed? You put up a ton of points against
Speaker 3: bad teams, Like I'm just saying, man, So that's why
Speaker 3: Chargers you got in on him to start the year
Speaker 3: to some extent.
Speaker 2: Don't leave a draft without a Charger.
Speaker 1: Make it Keaton Mitchell season got it all right. Last
Speaker 1: receiver that we have for the day, Scott, what do
Speaker 1: you got for us?
Speaker 4: I'm gonna say Antonio Williams here, And look, this might
Speaker 4: be short lived. You know, I know that all the
Speaker 4: rumors are Stephan Diggs is gonna sign with Washington, but
Speaker 4: he hasn't yet. They're not signing Brandon Ayuk. I know
Speaker 4: that all autograph things in Northern Virginia aside, they have
Speaker 4: not signed him. He's already insulted their quarterback. I don't
Speaker 4: think that's going to happen. Wouldn't be a good locker
Speaker 4: room move for the Commanders. But Stefan Diggs is still
Speaker 4: in here. But right now, it's Antonio Williams as far
Speaker 4: as I'm concerned. Right he was a massive prospect for
Speaker 4: Clemson and they had the big collapse in twenty twenty five.
Speaker 4: He missed three games and still led the Tigers in
Speaker 4: receptions last year. He increased his yards per route run
Speaker 4: to a career high two two seven. Last season, he
Speaker 4: had the highest yak perception since his freshman season and
Speaker 4: cut his drop rate from nine point six percent to
Speaker 4: one point eight percent as a senior. So he's a
Speaker 4: true dart throw because the Commanders can Yeah, it's not
Speaker 4: just digs. They can sign any veteran. I feel like
Speaker 4: to come in here and play this second role. Keenan
Speaker 4: Allen still free agent as well, right so there are
Speaker 4: options for them to sign somebody, But I don't know.
Speaker 4: He's looked good in camp. He's been the buzz of
Speaker 4: camp so far. As Zack Selby said, who writes for
Speaker 4: the Commander's website, said that it won't be long until
Speaker 4: he's a focus of the offense if he continues to
Speaker 4: play this way like he has early in camp. A
Speaker 4: lot of the Commander's blogs are praising him as the
Speaker 4: number two right now, and his competition is Luke McCaffrey,
Speaker 4: Treylon Burke, Jalen Lane, and Van Jefferson. There's just not
Speaker 4: a lot blocking him from being the number two target.
Speaker 4: It could be Chigakonquo, it could be Rashad White if
Speaker 4: they don't sign a veteran. But I think Antonio Williams
Speaker 4: as a gamble as your last pick, throw that dart
Speaker 4: and see if it works out, especially if they haven't
Speaker 4: signed Digs when your draft goes out, or signed Keenan
Speaker 4: Allen or another veteran. I think right now he's probably
Speaker 4: sitting in the leader of the clubhouse as that number
Speaker 4: two in the pecking order in the past game, and
Speaker 4: you know, with Jade Daniels, that could be a very
Speaker 4: nice role.
Speaker 1: Yeah, outside of Scary Terry, it's just a bunch of
Speaker 1: question marks, and one of those guys are probably popped
Speaker 1: ericson do you think it'll be uh Antni Williams, You
Speaker 1: like Chig we got we think about the commanders.
Speaker 3: I do have genuine interest in both of those guys,
Speaker 3: especially where Chid goes in drafts. He's starting to fall
Speaker 3: a little because of the allrea of Stefan Diggs signing there.
Speaker 3: But Antonio Williams I really liked coming out as a
Speaker 3: prospect out of Clemson. I think if they do profiles
Speaker 3: and project really well to operate from the slot and
Speaker 3: kind of curious, you know, asked this question both of
Speaker 3: you guys, if you think that they signed Stefan Diggs,
Speaker 3: does that mean Antonio Williams is buried as like the
Speaker 3: teams slot receiver. I get that Digs can play inside
Speaker 3: an ounceide, but you look at the roster, it's like McCaffrey,
Speaker 3: isn't he slock Eye, Jalen Lane slock Gye. So it's like,
Speaker 3: would it make more sense for Diggs to be playing
Speaker 3: on the outside while they have these younger players that, Okay,
Speaker 3: all we're asking you do is play the slot, make
Speaker 3: it more simple for you. Whereas Diggs, you're gonna be
Speaker 3: opposite of Terry who also is an older receiver. He's
Speaker 3: not he's over the age of thirty, and he's also
Speaker 3: coming off an injury plague season. Where is he going
Speaker 3: to play all seventeen games? That's another concern. So I
Speaker 3: get that there's a more pessimism around Williams right now
Speaker 3: because they're looking to bring in somebody, But the fact
Speaker 3: that they're still like waiting, it's like, hey, we want
Speaker 3: to see what we got with this kid. And I
Speaker 3: think that the longer that it takes them to actually
Speaker 3: to find to sign Stefan Diggs is actually more of
Speaker 3: a bullish case for Antonio and Williams. So Bog's slot usage,
Speaker 3: any any thoughts on that?
Speaker 4: Yeah, So I think, to me, when everybody's healthy, right,
Speaker 4: if they signed Digs, the problem isn't necessarily being on
Speaker 4: the field, it's where you are in the pecking order,
Speaker 4: because I think that Chig is probably three regardless, right.
Speaker 4: I think if it's no Digs and it's Antonio Williams,
Speaker 4: I think Chig is three. If it's Stefan Diggs, I
Speaker 4: still think Chick is three, which makes Antonio Williams four
Speaker 4: or five because you don't sign Rashad White to not
Speaker 4: throw the ball to him, right, that is his skill set.
Speaker 4: He's one of the best pass catching backs in the NFL,
Speaker 4: So I think he's probably four regardless as well. So
Speaker 4: it's kind of like it's boom or busts on Antonio Williams.
Speaker 4: Are you gonna be number two in the pecking order?
Speaker 4: Number five in the pecking order? But as you mentioned,
Speaker 4: the longer it takes to sign Diggs, the more offseason
Speaker 4: stuff that he's dealing with and injuries can happen in camp,
Speaker 4: making other teams, you know, go into this pile of
Speaker 4: their money and and all this. I don't know why
Speaker 4: did the Niners not sign Stefan Diggs?
Speaker 2: Why why don't the Raiders sign Steffan d Why don't.
Speaker 4: The Raiders sign Steffan Digg? Right now?
Speaker 3: Stefon Diggs played two years with Kirk Cousins and apparently
Speaker 3: he's gonna start all year.
Speaker 2: Yeah, they've been telling me.
Speaker 4: So what are we doing? Yeah? Why is he still
Speaker 4: out there? Washington is not the only answer here. So
Speaker 4: whether it's Alan or Diggs or somebody, if they signed someone,
Speaker 4: I think it does hurt Antonio from going two to five.
Speaker 4: But like you said, if anything happens to one of
Speaker 4: those guys in front of him, I think you jump
Speaker 4: the front of the line, passed Chig and Rashad White again,
Speaker 4: and now you're number two. So I think grab and
Speaker 4: stash specifically with you know, leagues with deeper benches is
Speaker 4: a great scenario to roster Antonio Williams and he's almost free.
Speaker 1: Yeah, July thirty first, none of those guys are on
Speaker 1: the commanders. If you're drafting, you know, August thirty first,
Speaker 1: might be it might be a different answer. Yeah, yeah,
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Speaker 2: Here, Bogs. You want to start us off.
Speaker 4: Yeah, even though I like say Flowers for fantasy, I'm
Speaker 4: still a Steelers fan and hate them. So there you go.
Speaker 2: That just stared.
Speaker 3: He's gonna have at least two nuclear games against the
Speaker 3: Pittsburgh Steelers.
Speaker 4: Almost be a single handedly to go to the playoffs.
Speaker 3: So to quote Max Crosby, Las Vegas Raiders, Ed Rusher
Speaker 3: and almost a Flowers teammate, very very close to being
Speaker 3: day Flowers teammate for a couple of days they thought
Speaker 3: it was gonna happen. They were like ready for the
Speaker 3: Stepbrothers pictures. They were all good to go. It was
Speaker 3: gonna be a great time. But to quote Max Crosby,
Speaker 3: what he said on the NFL Top one hundred twenty
Speaker 3: twenty six is Whennesday gets his flowers very plenty.
Speaker 1: I love it all right, guys, thank.
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