1 00:00:00,720 --> 00:00:03,720 Speaker 1: All right, welcome party people. It's a fantasy pros YouTube channel. 2 00:00:03,720 --> 00:00:06,440 Speaker 1: I'm your host, Matt Modi. Today we're talking about wide 3 00:00:06,440 --> 00:00:11,559 Speaker 1: receivers with massive upside, joined by two legends in the industry, ericson. 4 00:00:11,640 --> 00:00:13,000 Speaker 1: We'll start with you. How are we doing? 5 00:00:13,560 --> 00:00:14,880 Speaker 2: Dude, cannot be doing better. 6 00:00:15,400 --> 00:00:18,799 Speaker 3: So excited to talk about these upside, high ceiling wide 7 00:00:18,840 --> 00:00:20,160 Speaker 3: receivers with the two of you. 8 00:00:20,320 --> 00:00:21,080 Speaker 2: It's a Friday. 9 00:00:21,360 --> 00:00:24,439 Speaker 3: Tomorrow is August first, which means it's the last month 10 00:00:24,520 --> 00:00:26,720 Speaker 3: without regular season football. 11 00:00:27,000 --> 00:00:28,800 Speaker 2: Guys, there's no better time to be alive. 12 00:00:30,280 --> 00:00:33,000 Speaker 1: It doesn't get much better than this. That is true. 13 00:00:33,040 --> 00:00:34,879 Speaker 1: That is true. And then the other guests that we 14 00:00:34,960 --> 00:00:38,279 Speaker 1: have here, Scott Bogeman not guessed analysts. Sorry about that, 15 00:00:38,280 --> 00:00:39,240 Speaker 1: but Scott help me doing? 16 00:00:39,880 --> 00:00:43,159 Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm doing great. Man, Ready to talk about some 17 00:00:43,240 --> 00:00:46,720 Speaker 4: wide outs. It's gonna be a fun one. And ericson, 18 00:00:47,000 --> 00:00:49,279 Speaker 4: do you have any Patriots in here? I don't think 19 00:00:49,280 --> 00:00:52,520 Speaker 4: I have any Steelers. No homer ism at all today? 20 00:00:52,600 --> 00:00:55,040 Speaker 3: Look at that, I mean, I mean the Bowld case 21 00:00:55,080 --> 00:00:56,960 Speaker 3: on AJ Brown is just so obvious. I wanted to 22 00:00:56,960 --> 00:01:01,280 Speaker 3: give the audience a little bit more another Patriots homer 23 00:01:01,360 --> 00:01:05,280 Speaker 3: take on why twenty twenty six is AJB wide receiver one. 24 00:01:06,000 --> 00:01:08,200 Speaker 4: I was itchy to put Jeremy Bernard in here, but 25 00:01:09,640 --> 00:01:12,399 Speaker 4: you know, Roman Wilson's getting talked up. Can't put Bernard 26 00:01:12,440 --> 00:01:13,119 Speaker 4: in there quite yet. 27 00:01:13,280 --> 00:01:15,800 Speaker 1: So Roman Wilson's season, Well, this is an interesting trio. 28 00:01:15,880 --> 00:01:17,840 Speaker 1: I'm an Eagles fan here. So we just got everything 29 00:01:17,880 --> 00:01:20,920 Speaker 1: covered from the Eagles Patriots rivalry, the Pennsylvania rivalr. We 30 00:01:20,959 --> 00:01:23,880 Speaker 1: re goot everything. So for today's shows, as we've talked about, 31 00:01:24,080 --> 00:01:26,480 Speaker 1: we're talking wide receivers. First, we're going to talk about 32 00:01:26,520 --> 00:01:29,320 Speaker 1: early to mid round alphas, Guys being taken in rounds 33 00:01:29,319 --> 00:01:31,320 Speaker 1: three through six. This is half PPR by the way, 34 00:01:31,440 --> 00:01:33,920 Speaker 1: just to note that, Yeah, guys being taken around three 35 00:01:33,920 --> 00:01:35,399 Speaker 1: through six who can really come through for your team 36 00:01:35,480 --> 00:01:38,119 Speaker 1: despite not being in the top two rounds. Then we're 37 00:01:38,120 --> 00:01:41,040 Speaker 1: going to talk about mid round upside plays, so receivers 38 00:01:41,080 --> 00:01:44,040 Speaker 1: being taken around seven through ten. Really trying to focus 39 00:01:44,080 --> 00:01:46,800 Speaker 1: on like a scheme or coordinator change, something like that 40 00:01:47,400 --> 00:01:51,560 Speaker 1: unlock these these water will unlock these players that could 41 00:01:51,560 --> 00:01:54,160 Speaker 1: become wide receiver two three for your team. And then 42 00:01:54,200 --> 00:01:56,560 Speaker 1: lake ground sleepers. Everybody loves a good sleeper. That's what 43 00:01:56,600 --> 00:01:59,040 Speaker 1: we'll talk about at the end. So yeah, we'll get 44 00:01:59,040 --> 00:02:02,800 Speaker 1: started mid to early to mid round alpha engines ericson. 45 00:02:02,920 --> 00:02:03,600 Speaker 1: Let's start with you. 46 00:02:04,200 --> 00:02:06,080 Speaker 3: I'm going to take a guy that I know that 47 00:02:06,200 --> 00:02:08,600 Speaker 3: Scott Bogwin is also high on as well, but I 48 00:02:08,720 --> 00:02:10,480 Speaker 3: beat him to the show sheets, so I get to 49 00:02:10,520 --> 00:02:14,799 Speaker 3: include Zay Flowers here as my wide receiver to target 50 00:02:14,840 --> 00:02:17,560 Speaker 3: in the early rounds is an extremely high ceiling. Because 51 00:02:18,280 --> 00:02:20,160 Speaker 3: I mentioned this when I took Zay Flowers. I think 52 00:02:20,200 --> 00:02:22,919 Speaker 3: I took Zay Flowers in the super flex mock draft 53 00:02:22,960 --> 00:02:24,680 Speaker 3: that we did earlier this week. 54 00:02:24,960 --> 00:02:27,560 Speaker 2: And just imagine if this guy finds the end zone. 55 00:02:27,680 --> 00:02:30,600 Speaker 3: Imagine if the Ravens don't rank dead last and pass 56 00:02:30,680 --> 00:02:33,640 Speaker 3: right over expectation in twenty twenty six under a new 57 00:02:33,639 --> 00:02:37,800 Speaker 3: offensive coordinator, Declan Doyle. Because that's really the key point 58 00:02:37,800 --> 00:02:40,040 Speaker 3: to make about. Okay, well, how does things change for 59 00:02:40,160 --> 00:02:42,560 Speaker 3: z Flowers? It's okay, Well, Todd Munkin is no longer 60 00:02:42,639 --> 00:02:44,960 Speaker 3: calling shots here, like it's a new officive coordinator coming in, 61 00:02:45,240 --> 00:02:48,840 Speaker 3: young hot shot worked under Ben Johnson, and hopefully he 62 00:02:48,919 --> 00:02:51,880 Speaker 3: embraces some more of Zay Flowers, specifically in these high 63 00:02:51,919 --> 00:02:54,280 Speaker 3: leverage opportunities, because the talent is so clearly there was 64 00:02:54,320 --> 00:02:57,200 Speaker 3: a Flowers last year over twelve hundred receiving yards, eighty 65 00:02:57,240 --> 00:03:00,280 Speaker 3: six catches, just six total touchdowns. He was wide receiver 66 00:03:00,360 --> 00:03:04,040 Speaker 3: seven overall in twenty twenty five, but the consistency was 67 00:03:04,200 --> 00:03:06,760 Speaker 3: there every single week from him. Over the last five 68 00:03:06,760 --> 00:03:08,960 Speaker 3: games he was wide receiver three overall, he had at 69 00:03:09,040 --> 00:03:11,720 Speaker 3: least four catches and thirteen of his seventeen games played, 70 00:03:12,000 --> 00:03:15,240 Speaker 3: So the floor consistency is all there for him. Fifth 71 00:03:15,240 --> 00:03:17,200 Speaker 3: and target share at twenty eight percent, eleventh in air 72 00:03:17,280 --> 00:03:19,800 Speaker 3: yard chair at thirty five percent. Fourth in yards per 73 00:03:19,840 --> 00:03:23,480 Speaker 3: rout run behind only Puka Nakua, Jacksmith, Jigbut and Luther Burden. 74 00:03:24,000 --> 00:03:27,360 Speaker 3: So for me, it's just trying to find the avenues. Okay, 75 00:03:27,520 --> 00:03:30,800 Speaker 3: the floor has been established and we get access a 76 00:03:30,800 --> 00:03:34,040 Speaker 3: potential ceiling with this officer coordinator change. Look, every other 77 00:03:34,080 --> 00:03:36,880 Speaker 3: receiver that hit twelve hundred yards last year had eight touchdowns. 78 00:03:37,000 --> 00:03:40,480 Speaker 3: The only outlier was A Flowers. So for me, when 79 00:03:40,480 --> 00:03:43,480 Speaker 3: I'm just looking at the talent profile, I'm so excited 80 00:03:43,480 --> 00:03:45,640 Speaker 3: about him because I think that he's really really good. 81 00:03:45,920 --> 00:03:47,040 Speaker 2: He's super super explosive. 82 00:03:47,040 --> 00:03:49,240 Speaker 3: He checks out every explosive metric when you're looking at 83 00:03:49,320 --> 00:03:53,120 Speaker 3: wide receivers creating balls with the ball in their hands. 84 00:03:53,920 --> 00:03:56,160 Speaker 3: They talked about it on the NFL Top one hundred list. 85 00:03:56,440 --> 00:03:58,440 Speaker 3: Every single guy that talked about Zay Flowers was, dude, 86 00:03:58,440 --> 00:04:00,880 Speaker 3: this guy so explosive, right, and that matches up with 87 00:04:00,920 --> 00:04:02,600 Speaker 3: all the numbers that you're looking at when it comes 88 00:04:02,640 --> 00:04:05,200 Speaker 3: to what he's doing when they do throw him the rock. 89 00:04:05,320 --> 00:04:07,360 Speaker 3: So he's attached to Lamar Jackson. No one will be 90 00:04:07,400 --> 00:04:10,680 Speaker 3: surprised if Lamar Jackson has a bounce back season again. 91 00:04:10,960 --> 00:04:14,080 Speaker 3: Six point five career touchdown passing rate, so Lamar can 92 00:04:14,080 --> 00:04:16,599 Speaker 3: throw for four touchdowns like we've seen it before from him. 93 00:04:16,720 --> 00:04:18,480 Speaker 3: I think Jay Flowers gets a little bit more here. 94 00:04:18,880 --> 00:04:21,520 Speaker 3: Last year when he was healthy, between him and Lamar 95 00:04:21,600 --> 00:04:25,479 Speaker 3: Jackson over fifteen points per game in full PPR, that 96 00:04:25,640 --> 00:04:28,440 Speaker 3: was Zay Flowers. So for me, Jesse Minner, this is 97 00:04:28,480 --> 00:04:31,400 Speaker 3: per the Coach Beak Index. He was talking about how, hey, 98 00:04:31,400 --> 00:04:33,240 Speaker 3: what do you think about this NFL Top one hundred list, 99 00:04:33,240 --> 00:04:35,159 Speaker 3: and he said, you always going to shoot himself way 100 00:04:35,240 --> 00:04:38,039 Speaker 3: up this year, say Flowers. 101 00:04:38,720 --> 00:04:40,160 Speaker 1: You'd love to see it, and you have to see that. 102 00:04:40,200 --> 00:04:43,000 Speaker 1: Then you get Dechnan Doyle coming over from Ben Johnson too. 103 00:04:43,520 --> 00:04:45,000 Speaker 1: What he brings over and Scott, what do you think 104 00:04:45,000 --> 00:04:46,080 Speaker 1: about Jay Flowers this year? 105 00:04:46,320 --> 00:04:50,560 Speaker 4: Yeah, man, I mean really upset that Ericson got the 106 00:04:50,600 --> 00:04:54,159 Speaker 4: sheet before me. But third and team yards only, JSN 107 00:04:54,160 --> 00:04:56,400 Speaker 4: and Puka had a higher percentage of their team's yards 108 00:04:56,480 --> 00:04:58,920 Speaker 4: right seventh in yards per route run ninth and yards 109 00:04:58,960 --> 00:05:01,600 Speaker 4: per target twenty second and yards per route run second 110 00:05:01,640 --> 00:05:04,719 Speaker 4: and miss tackles force eighth in miss tackles force per reception, 111 00:05:05,080 --> 00:05:07,119 Speaker 4: tenth in the act eighteenth in the act per catch. 112 00:05:07,400 --> 00:05:11,960 Speaker 4: This dude was seventh last season in PPR and thirteenth 113 00:05:11,960 --> 00:05:15,080 Speaker 4: in points per games. He's right there, Addy wide receiver one. 114 00:05:15,640 --> 00:05:18,159 Speaker 4: This offense is going to get more vertical. What a 115 00:05:18,200 --> 00:05:22,479 Speaker 4: great selection by Ericson to start us off here. Excellent work, Ericson, 116 00:05:23,000 --> 00:05:23,400 Speaker 4: I love that. 117 00:05:23,440 --> 00:05:24,800 Speaker 1: And yeah, so the last point is he did all 118 00:05:24,839 --> 00:05:26,440 Speaker 1: that with Lamar missing a bunch of time and like 119 00:05:26,480 --> 00:05:28,719 Speaker 1: having up down here for Lamar Jackson's standards. So yeah, 120 00:05:28,760 --> 00:05:30,800 Speaker 1: it's kind of scary what what he can be. So 121 00:05:30,839 --> 00:05:33,640 Speaker 1: all right, Zay Flowers in agreement there, Scott, who do 122 00:05:33,720 --> 00:05:33,919 Speaker 1: you like? 123 00:05:34,120 --> 00:05:35,840 Speaker 4: I'm going to reach down a little bit further. I'm 124 00:05:35,880 --> 00:05:38,479 Speaker 4: going to say Mike Evans, who's ADP right now, is 125 00:05:38,520 --> 00:05:41,120 Speaker 4: currently sixty one. Overall, things are not looking good for 126 00:05:41,160 --> 00:05:44,080 Speaker 4: Ricky Pearsall. I'm not really buying that George Kittle is 127 00:05:44,080 --> 00:05:47,240 Speaker 4: gonna be ready early because Kyle Yuscheck said he looked great, right, 128 00:05:47,560 --> 00:05:49,240 Speaker 4: I know we've got a little bit of that, but 129 00:05:49,279 --> 00:05:51,800 Speaker 4: that's not even coach speak, that's full back speak. Not 130 00:05:51,839 --> 00:05:54,320 Speaker 4: sure if I'm buying into any of that. Kirk is 131 00:05:54,320 --> 00:05:57,000 Speaker 4: down with a calf strain right now. Stribbling was a 132 00:05:57,080 --> 00:05:59,960 Speaker 4: high pick, but he's a rookie. Deebo will help this offense. 133 00:06:00,160 --> 00:06:02,640 Speaker 4: But I really think a healthy Mike Evans is going 134 00:06:02,680 --> 00:06:05,840 Speaker 4: to be extremely productive here. He's currently wide receiver twenty five, 135 00:06:06,160 --> 00:06:09,480 Speaker 4: an outstanding option as your wide receiver three. Mike Evans 136 00:06:09,680 --> 00:06:12,719 Speaker 4: was wide receiver forty in points per game, but spent 137 00:06:12,800 --> 00:06:15,600 Speaker 4: most of last season with broken baker. In the second 138 00:06:15,680 --> 00:06:18,359 Speaker 4: half twenty twenty four, he was wide receiver nine in 139 00:06:18,440 --> 00:06:21,080 Speaker 4: total and in points per games. I don't think he 140 00:06:21,160 --> 00:06:25,320 Speaker 4: can get there this season, but let's remember that brock 141 00:06:25,360 --> 00:06:29,760 Speaker 4: Perty with a healthy, not crazy Brandon Ayuk was pretty good. 142 00:06:29,839 --> 00:06:33,479 Speaker 4: He ranked second and deep passing according to PFF. He 143 00:06:33,560 --> 00:06:35,880 Speaker 4: had the second highest completion rate as well on deep 144 00:06:35,920 --> 00:06:38,120 Speaker 4: passes fifty seven point nine percent in twenty twenty three. 145 00:06:38,440 --> 00:06:41,880 Speaker 4: Evans can add that element back to this Niners offense. 146 00:06:42,080 --> 00:06:45,720 Speaker 4: And I think with a lot of volume being gone 147 00:06:45,880 --> 00:06:49,000 Speaker 4: right now, with Kirk being down, with Kittle likely starting 148 00:06:49,000 --> 00:06:52,680 Speaker 4: the season on the puff, the ghost of Debo, we 149 00:06:52,680 --> 00:06:54,640 Speaker 4: don't know what he's gonna do, right, and then it's 150 00:06:54,680 --> 00:06:57,760 Speaker 4: a lot of inexperience next to Mike Evans. I think, 151 00:06:58,080 --> 00:07:01,000 Speaker 4: you know, this isn't Purdy's game. I don't think that 152 00:07:01,400 --> 00:07:03,720 Speaker 4: they want him throwing deep a lot, but I do 153 00:07:03,760 --> 00:07:05,960 Speaker 4: think that he can do it when asked Brandon, I 154 00:07:06,080 --> 00:07:08,479 Speaker 4: Yuke did it, and he has done it successfully. And 155 00:07:08,560 --> 00:07:10,440 Speaker 4: I expect a big year from Mike Evans. 156 00:07:11,720 --> 00:07:15,040 Speaker 1: So you're not buying the fullback coach coach index being 157 00:07:15,040 --> 00:07:15,720 Speaker 1: the next big thing. 158 00:07:15,920 --> 00:07:20,840 Speaker 4: No, maybe I should start it, maybe fullback truth index 159 00:07:20,960 --> 00:07:25,160 Speaker 4: or however, but yeah, yeah, you check. I don't know. 160 00:07:25,240 --> 00:07:28,120 Speaker 4: I just all of this polyanninous about these guys with 161 00:07:28,200 --> 00:07:30,360 Speaker 4: these major injuries to try to make it to week one. 162 00:07:30,600 --> 00:07:33,840 Speaker 4: I don't know, like Mahomes, maybe Mahomes seems like a freak, 163 00:07:34,160 --> 00:07:37,760 Speaker 4: but Kittle playing week one after torn achilles, it's DJ. 164 00:07:37,800 --> 00:07:41,880 Speaker 3: It's weird how all their time I just magically aligned. 165 00:07:41,480 --> 00:07:43,040 Speaker 2: With week one exactly right. 166 00:07:43,800 --> 00:07:46,080 Speaker 3: It's so weird, like how all these injuries at all 167 00:07:46,120 --> 00:07:46,640 Speaker 3: different times. 168 00:07:46,640 --> 00:07:49,800 Speaker 2: It's like, well, is it week one? Looks like we're 169 00:07:49,840 --> 00:07:51,680 Speaker 2: ready to go. So I agree with you. 170 00:07:51,720 --> 00:07:55,360 Speaker 3: There's definitely a lot of optimism here as we're entering 171 00:07:55,440 --> 00:07:57,640 Speaker 3: you know, first we're getting close to August. 172 00:07:58,720 --> 00:08:01,920 Speaker 1: Yeah, with Kitty towards Achilles in the playoffs and he's 173 00:08:01,920 --> 00:08:04,200 Speaker 1: older now, he's like, he's above thirty. Yead, it's scary, 174 00:08:04,240 --> 00:08:07,360 Speaker 1: but hey, I mean July August, it's our best shape 175 00:08:07,360 --> 00:08:09,760 Speaker 1: of career season. It's ahead of schedule season, all that 176 00:08:09,760 --> 00:08:13,440 Speaker 1: stuff is happening. So yeah, all right, Mike Evans as 177 00:08:13,480 --> 00:08:15,360 Speaker 1: the Scott's first one ericson what do you got next? 178 00:08:15,440 --> 00:08:18,680 Speaker 3: I have Jalen Wattle for the Denver Broncos, and he's 179 00:08:18,720 --> 00:08:20,640 Speaker 3: someone that I have actually been kind of moving up 180 00:08:20,680 --> 00:08:22,400 Speaker 3: my rankings and I'm just kind of looking at this 181 00:08:22,480 --> 00:08:25,600 Speaker 3: wide receiver tier. I love this wide receiver tier. Right 182 00:08:25,640 --> 00:08:28,880 Speaker 3: when you're drafting rounds three, rounds four, rounds five. It's 183 00:08:28,880 --> 00:08:31,240 Speaker 3: why I think that double tapping running back makes a 184 00:08:31,280 --> 00:08:33,000 Speaker 3: lot of sense, especially if you're picking at the end 185 00:08:33,000 --> 00:08:35,160 Speaker 3: of round one in the traditional twelve team lead because 186 00:08:35,200 --> 00:08:37,199 Speaker 3: we love these wide receivers here, and I'm just basically 187 00:08:37,200 --> 00:08:40,360 Speaker 3: listing off fits and I's King Classics team, where we 188 00:08:40,360 --> 00:08:42,800 Speaker 3: got say Flowers in the auction draft, we got Jalen 189 00:08:42,800 --> 00:08:45,360 Speaker 3: Wall in the auction draft, both for steals in my opinion, 190 00:08:45,400 --> 00:08:47,199 Speaker 3: pairing him with Puka and Kua as the guy we 191 00:08:47,240 --> 00:08:50,120 Speaker 3: spent up for. So basically just listening off my high 192 00:08:50,120 --> 00:08:52,160 Speaker 3: ceiling roster, our high ceiling. 193 00:08:51,960 --> 00:08:53,080 Speaker 2: Roster for the King's Classic. 194 00:08:53,200 --> 00:08:57,800 Speaker 3: So but for Wattle specifically, it's just the ceiling outcomes 195 00:08:57,800 --> 00:09:00,320 Speaker 3: he can get to attached to an offense that's actually 196 00:09:00,320 --> 00:09:03,079 Speaker 3: going to embrace throwing the football, because that was not 197 00:09:03,360 --> 00:09:05,480 Speaker 3: in the case last year with Miami when two was 198 00:09:05,480 --> 00:09:07,640 Speaker 3: a quarterback and then when he got hurt or when 199 00:09:07,640 --> 00:09:09,400 Speaker 3: he got benched, they put quinn Ewers and was just 200 00:09:09,480 --> 00:09:12,480 Speaker 3: run the football basically as much as humanly possible. So 201 00:09:12,880 --> 00:09:14,920 Speaker 3: Wattle was still really efficient last year. So I'm not 202 00:09:14,960 --> 00:09:17,480 Speaker 3: worried about, Oh, he's fallen off. He's not as good 203 00:09:17,480 --> 00:09:19,000 Speaker 3: as he once was when he was younger in his career. 204 00:09:19,000 --> 00:09:21,760 Speaker 3: He's still ninth in PFF receiving grade thirteenth yards per 205 00:09:21,800 --> 00:09:23,800 Speaker 3: out run was also top twelve and target rate per 206 00:09:23,880 --> 00:09:27,120 Speaker 3: route run at a pretty high twenty six percent, so 207 00:09:27,200 --> 00:09:30,080 Speaker 3: we've seen him operate and perform at a very high level. 208 00:09:30,080 --> 00:09:33,200 Speaker 3: When Terry Hill has missed passed games or not been 209 00:09:33,240 --> 00:09:36,920 Speaker 3: at one hundred percent in those games fifteen game sample size, 210 00:09:37,120 --> 00:09:39,520 Speaker 3: whether Hill has missed completely or has been limited. In 211 00:09:39,600 --> 00:09:42,839 Speaker 3: terms of snaps, Waddle has averaged seven or more targets, 212 00:09:43,080 --> 00:09:45,800 Speaker 3: sixty eight receiving yards and topped eighty two yards in 213 00:09:45,840 --> 00:09:48,680 Speaker 3: five of those eleven last games in twenty twenty five. 214 00:09:49,080 --> 00:09:51,840 Speaker 3: So when I look at the Denver Broncos offense last year, 215 00:09:52,000 --> 00:09:54,360 Speaker 3: they were one of the highest rated teams in terms 216 00:09:54,400 --> 00:09:57,839 Speaker 3: of pass over expectation. Bo Nicks actually led the NFL 217 00:09:57,880 --> 00:10:00,360 Speaker 3: pass stemps. It's a crazy number because you look at 218 00:10:00,360 --> 00:10:02,040 Speaker 3: it and think, man, how did a team that went 219 00:10:02,080 --> 00:10:05,480 Speaker 3: fourteen and three lead the league in passing attempts. It's 220 00:10:05,520 --> 00:10:09,200 Speaker 3: because they played in so many second half comeback wins. Right, 221 00:10:09,240 --> 00:10:10,640 Speaker 3: they were down in the second half, so we got 222 00:10:10,720 --> 00:10:12,160 Speaker 3: to throw a throw a throw And we look at 223 00:10:12,160 --> 00:10:14,640 Speaker 3: the Denver Bronco schedules, so this is per sharp football. 224 00:10:15,080 --> 00:10:18,000 Speaker 3: If you look at their schedule, they have an extremely 225 00:10:18,080 --> 00:10:20,280 Speaker 3: tough runout to start the year. So I think you're 226 00:10:20,320 --> 00:10:23,880 Speaker 3: going to see more of the pass heavy approach with 227 00:10:24,000 --> 00:10:26,360 Speaker 3: Bonnicks healthy, and I think that's why they went out 228 00:10:26,360 --> 00:10:28,959 Speaker 3: and got Jaylen Wattle, so they can strike fear into 229 00:10:28,960 --> 00:10:33,200 Speaker 3: opposing defenses. Also, per sharp Football, Denver last year dead 230 00:10:33,280 --> 00:10:36,880 Speaker 3: last in terms of receptions, gained a twenty or more yards. 231 00:10:37,120 --> 00:10:39,600 Speaker 3: They need to generate more explosive plays, and I think 232 00:10:39,640 --> 00:10:41,560 Speaker 3: that's exactly why they traded what they did to get 233 00:10:41,679 --> 00:10:44,520 Speaker 3: Jalen Waddell, who who I do think is far, far 234 00:10:44,640 --> 00:10:46,400 Speaker 3: far from wash. I think that he can still put 235 00:10:46,440 --> 00:10:48,720 Speaker 3: up a fantasy wide receiver one season. He's done it 236 00:10:48,720 --> 00:10:51,000 Speaker 3: before in the past, done it with volume, done it 237 00:10:51,000 --> 00:10:53,880 Speaker 3: with efficiency as the number two behind Tyreek Kill, but 238 00:10:54,000 --> 00:10:56,480 Speaker 3: as the clear cut number one in this offense. Because 239 00:10:56,679 --> 00:10:59,400 Speaker 3: we saw last year Troy Franklin really eat into Courtland 240 00:10:59,400 --> 00:11:02,480 Speaker 3: Sutton's target share and production, I think we're just going 241 00:11:02,520 --> 00:11:03,960 Speaker 3: to see the jail the Wattle show. It's just a 242 00:11:03,960 --> 00:11:06,440 Speaker 3: matter of if he can stay healthy and not being 243 00:11:06,480 --> 00:11:09,920 Speaker 3: the blue medical kent like constantly, which is really frustrating. 244 00:11:09,920 --> 00:11:12,240 Speaker 3: Again as someone that's been big on Jaalen Wattle every 245 00:11:12,240 --> 00:11:14,960 Speaker 3: single year seemingly and it has not always worked out. 246 00:11:15,280 --> 00:11:17,000 Speaker 2: I'm very excited about what he could do in Denver. 247 00:11:18,440 --> 00:11:21,040 Speaker 1: Yeah, ton of opportunity for an explosive receiver there, Scott, 248 00:11:21,040 --> 00:11:22,000 Speaker 1: You buying Wattle this year? 249 00:11:22,200 --> 00:11:25,080 Speaker 4: Yeah? I mean, I think this is what makes the 250 00:11:25,720 --> 00:11:29,280 Speaker 4: kind of the wide receiver two to three borderline here 251 00:11:29,480 --> 00:11:32,640 Speaker 4: really nice, is that there's a lot of really good 252 00:11:32,679 --> 00:11:35,480 Speaker 4: players to pick from, and you can really take anybody 253 00:11:35,480 --> 00:11:39,199 Speaker 4: out of this section and singing their praises. But Wattle 254 00:11:39,400 --> 00:11:42,120 Speaker 4: is a guy that you know, I think we're pushing 255 00:11:42,120 --> 00:11:44,400 Speaker 4: Courtland Sutton down, and I'm a Courtland Sutton guy, right. 256 00:11:44,559 --> 00:11:47,080 Speaker 4: Loved him coming out of SMU and he was kind 257 00:11:47,080 --> 00:11:49,320 Speaker 4: of learning on the job. He played safety at SMU 258 00:11:49,600 --> 00:11:52,559 Speaker 4: his first two safeties, then converted to wide receiver, got 259 00:11:52,600 --> 00:11:56,040 Speaker 4: drafted as a wide receiver, became a number one rather quickly. 260 00:11:56,360 --> 00:11:59,679 Speaker 4: But Wattle is, you know, one of those high recruits 261 00:11:59,800 --> 00:12:03,480 Speaker 4: going into Alabama coming out and just doing what he 262 00:12:03,559 --> 00:12:06,080 Speaker 4: did in college. And I think with a good quarterback. 263 00:12:06,120 --> 00:12:08,679 Speaker 4: You know, we saw the jump from Pickens last year 264 00:12:08,760 --> 00:12:12,440 Speaker 4: going from Pittsburgh where it was all subpar QB play 265 00:12:12,840 --> 00:12:15,160 Speaker 4: to go to Dallas to play with the best QB 266 00:12:15,400 --> 00:12:18,920 Speaker 4: that he's ever played with across any level in Dak Prescott, 267 00:12:18,920 --> 00:12:21,000 Speaker 4: and we saw him blow up. I think the same 268 00:12:21,080 --> 00:12:23,640 Speaker 4: could be in store for Wattle. Not that Tua is 269 00:12:23,679 --> 00:12:26,800 Speaker 4: an absolute scrub or anything, but bo Nix looks like 270 00:12:28,240 --> 00:12:31,000 Speaker 4: an elite level quarterback early in his career here, So 271 00:12:31,280 --> 00:12:35,559 Speaker 4: I'm excited to see the ceiling for Wattle truly in Denver, specifically, 272 00:12:35,600 --> 00:12:37,760 Speaker 4: if they passed as much as they did last season. 273 00:12:39,240 --> 00:12:39,839 Speaker 2: Yeah, for sure. 274 00:12:39,880 --> 00:12:41,960 Speaker 1: Well, speaking of receivers that we love in this round, 275 00:12:41,960 --> 00:12:43,120 Speaker 1: I believe he got more more for us. 276 00:12:43,240 --> 00:12:46,920 Speaker 4: Yeah, Carnel Tate. The fit of Tate with Ward is 277 00:12:46,960 --> 00:12:49,000 Speaker 4: one of my favorite things to come out of the 278 00:12:49,080 --> 00:12:53,079 Speaker 4: draft because if you've watched cam Ward play at any level, 279 00:12:53,440 --> 00:12:56,200 Speaker 4: the dude is holding onto the ball as long as 280 00:12:56,320 --> 00:12:58,760 Speaker 4: possible before he can get rid of it to try 281 00:12:58,880 --> 00:13:01,600 Speaker 4: to make the big play. And that is what Carneal 282 00:13:01,679 --> 00:13:05,440 Speaker 4: Tait is. He is the big playmaker, your big downfield threat, 283 00:13:05,480 --> 00:13:07,360 Speaker 4: the guy that is going to break this all the 284 00:13:07,400 --> 00:13:10,679 Speaker 4: way open. Obviously, they're also looking for a number one 285 00:13:10,760 --> 00:13:16,080 Speaker 4: target in Tennessee, you know, but Tait with a quarterback 286 00:13:16,200 --> 00:13:19,720 Speaker 4: like Ward and sticky coverage, more sticky coverage in the NFL. Well, 287 00:13:19,760 --> 00:13:22,079 Speaker 4: it's great that he was twenty two of thirty two 288 00:13:22,160 --> 00:13:24,640 Speaker 4: in his career, which is sixty eight point eight percent 289 00:13:25,000 --> 00:13:28,760 Speaker 4: in contested catch percentage and his last year at Ohio 290 00:13:28,840 --> 00:13:33,199 Speaker 4: State twelve of fourteen eighty five point seven percent. The 291 00:13:33,280 --> 00:13:37,199 Speaker 4: new offensive additions of you know, Wanda Robinson, I think 292 00:13:37,360 --> 00:13:39,520 Speaker 4: is going to be huge in a PPR league for 293 00:13:39,880 --> 00:13:42,920 Speaker 4: getting those receptions, so short receptions. But I think if 294 00:13:42,920 --> 00:13:45,679 Speaker 4: you're looking at your number one target, a high guy, 295 00:13:45,920 --> 00:13:47,560 Speaker 4: the guy that's going to be very high in first 296 00:13:47,559 --> 00:13:49,840 Speaker 4: three percentage, he's going to make a lot of big plays. 297 00:13:50,120 --> 00:13:52,520 Speaker 4: If there are touchdowns to be had in Tennessee, I 298 00:13:52,600 --> 00:13:53,959 Speaker 4: think a lot of them are going to go to 299 00:13:54,000 --> 00:13:55,800 Speaker 4: Carnel Tate. So this is a guy that you can 300 00:13:55,840 --> 00:13:58,000 Speaker 4: take as your wide receiver three that could give you 301 00:13:58,080 --> 00:14:01,640 Speaker 4: wide receiver two upside as the leader of his team 302 00:14:01,679 --> 00:14:04,200 Speaker 4: in Tennessee, and that is what makes him a value here. 303 00:14:06,200 --> 00:14:08,520 Speaker 1: Sure, yeah, I like it, And you wonder with cam 304 00:14:08,600 --> 00:14:10,560 Speaker 1: Ward the coaching last year was just such a mess 305 00:14:10,559 --> 00:14:12,520 Speaker 1: in Tennessee with Brian Callahan that like, you know, it's 306 00:14:12,520 --> 00:14:16,000 Speaker 1: not quite going from Eberflues to Ben Johnson like Caleb Williams, 307 00:14:16,040 --> 00:14:19,880 Speaker 1: but it's not far. It's not far from it. Yeah, 308 00:14:19,960 --> 00:14:22,320 Speaker 1: So all right, cool, before we move on to mid 309 00:14:22,400 --> 00:14:25,600 Speaker 1: round upside plays. 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As I mentioned, 320 00:14:57,680 --> 00:14:59,920 Speaker 1: both of you gonna choose to again this is look 321 00:15:00,120 --> 00:15:03,640 Speaker 1: at ADP between round seven through ten again half PPR. 322 00:15:04,200 --> 00:15:06,480 Speaker 1: I'm really trying to focus on like a team scheme 323 00:15:06,560 --> 00:15:09,960 Speaker 1: coordinator change, something like that. Unlock weekly wide receiver two 324 00:15:09,960 --> 00:15:12,840 Speaker 1: to three ceilings. Scott, We'll start with you this time. 325 00:15:13,200 --> 00:15:14,560 Speaker 1: Who you got for us for this one? 326 00:15:14,920 --> 00:15:17,520 Speaker 4: Yeah, it's Marvin Harrison. And I have been critical and 327 00:15:17,640 --> 00:15:21,440 Speaker 4: I've been clipped and quoted as not liking Marvin Harrison. 328 00:15:21,640 --> 00:15:24,120 Speaker 4: But I think what people missed when I said, look 329 00:15:24,600 --> 00:15:26,440 Speaker 4: and I said this about twenty twenty six. This was 330 00:15:26,480 --> 00:15:29,160 Speaker 4: a dynasty take. If Marvin Harrison isn't good in twenty 331 00:15:29,200 --> 00:15:30,960 Speaker 4: twenty six, I think we need to be done for him, 332 00:15:31,520 --> 00:15:33,720 Speaker 4: done with him for twenty twenty seven and beyond, because 333 00:15:33,760 --> 00:15:35,960 Speaker 4: we're just gonna make another excuse. It's gonna be well, 334 00:15:36,000 --> 00:15:37,760 Speaker 4: they're gonna get a real quarterback this year and blah 335 00:15:37,800 --> 00:15:40,360 Speaker 4: blah blah blah blah. Look, if Marvin Harrison can't make 336 00:15:40,360 --> 00:15:42,960 Speaker 4: it work with anybody in three seasons, and I think 337 00:15:43,840 --> 00:15:47,160 Speaker 4: might be done with him. But I expect him, and 338 00:15:47,280 --> 00:15:49,760 Speaker 4: this is the part that didn't get clipped. I expect 339 00:15:49,840 --> 00:15:53,840 Speaker 4: him to have the breakout this year, right. And it's 340 00:15:53,960 --> 00:15:56,960 Speaker 4: because you're bringing in a whole new offense, right. And 341 00:15:57,240 --> 00:15:59,680 Speaker 4: I understand a lot of people like Michael Wilson, and 342 00:16:00,040 --> 00:16:04,280 Speaker 4: Michael Wilson was good with Jacoby Brissett in particular, But 343 00:16:04,560 --> 00:16:08,440 Speaker 4: how many of these games is Jacoby Brissett going to start? 344 00:16:08,560 --> 00:16:11,560 Speaker 4: I think they're going to at least give the last 345 00:16:11,640 --> 00:16:13,800 Speaker 4: five or six games to Carson Beck at the end 346 00:16:13,800 --> 00:16:16,280 Speaker 4: of the year. And Carson Beck has been looking really good. 347 00:16:16,360 --> 00:16:18,600 Speaker 4: All the reports are good about him. I'm not going 348 00:16:18,640 --> 00:16:21,120 Speaker 4: to sit here and gush about Carson Beck. But everyone 349 00:16:21,240 --> 00:16:24,120 Speaker 4: is playing for second behind Trey McBride in this offense. Right, 350 00:16:24,560 --> 00:16:27,400 Speaker 4: But Marvin Harrison has already been said he's going to 351 00:16:27,400 --> 00:16:30,000 Speaker 4: be the wide receiver in thirteen personnel. He's playing ahead 352 00:16:30,000 --> 00:16:32,680 Speaker 4: of Michael Wilson. Even with his cramps the other day 353 00:16:32,720 --> 00:16:35,360 Speaker 4: and everyone was worried about that, he still played in 354 00:16:35,480 --> 00:16:39,720 Speaker 4: more snaps in that camp scrimmage than Michael Wilson did. 355 00:16:40,000 --> 00:16:41,760 Speaker 4: I think this is going to be the breakout. I 356 00:16:41,840 --> 00:16:44,680 Speaker 4: know he didn't work well with Brissett, but I think 357 00:16:44,760 --> 00:16:46,400 Speaker 4: it's going to be a lot of Beck. I think 358 00:16:46,480 --> 00:16:49,240 Speaker 4: this is the year to do it, and this offense 359 00:16:49,440 --> 00:16:52,960 Speaker 4: really can open up if the offensive line can be fixed, 360 00:16:53,240 --> 00:16:56,760 Speaker 4: if we could find a viable why quarterback here? Is 361 00:16:56,840 --> 00:16:58,960 Speaker 4: it Brisset behind a better offensive line with a better 362 00:16:59,000 --> 00:17:01,800 Speaker 4: run game with Jeremiah Love? Maybe could it be Carson 363 00:17:01,840 --> 00:17:04,639 Speaker 4: back coming in here. Everyone disrespect him from Georgia. I 364 00:17:04,800 --> 00:17:07,440 Speaker 4: understand that, but he goes to Miami. He turns the 365 00:17:07,840 --> 00:17:11,840 Speaker 4: turnover machine off. So he had way less at Miami 366 00:17:11,960 --> 00:17:14,320 Speaker 4: than he did at Georgia, and he brought his team 367 00:17:14,359 --> 00:17:16,960 Speaker 4: all the way to the National championship. There's a little 368 00:17:17,000 --> 00:17:19,479 Speaker 4: party niche to Carson Beck here just don't ask him 369 00:17:19,480 --> 00:17:22,240 Speaker 4: to do too much. Let him throw to these amazing 370 00:17:22,680 --> 00:17:25,120 Speaker 4: skill position players. Hand the ball off to Jeremiah Love 371 00:17:25,119 --> 00:17:28,040 Speaker 4: a bunch, toss to him short, and this offense can hume. 372 00:17:28,400 --> 00:17:30,240 Speaker 4: And they're gonna need to score points because the defense 373 00:17:30,320 --> 00:17:32,560 Speaker 4: still sucks. They have a lot of work to do on. 374 00:17:32,640 --> 00:17:37,280 Speaker 4: The defense is not fixed by any measure quite yet. 375 00:17:37,520 --> 00:17:40,240 Speaker 4: Maybe better than last year, but not good overall, So 376 00:17:40,600 --> 00:17:42,800 Speaker 4: they're gonna have to score points. I think Harrison takes 377 00:17:42,840 --> 00:17:45,040 Speaker 4: a new step in a new offense, and he might 378 00:17:45,119 --> 00:17:47,440 Speaker 4: get a new quarterback sooner rather than later. So I 379 00:17:47,520 --> 00:17:50,080 Speaker 4: think a lot of signs point to a potential breakout 380 00:17:50,280 --> 00:17:51,200 Speaker 4: for Marvin Harrison. 381 00:17:51,240 --> 00:17:51,760 Speaker 3: But this is it. 382 00:17:52,280 --> 00:17:55,600 Speaker 4: This is the last string I am giving Marvin Harrison. 383 00:17:55,720 --> 00:17:58,080 Speaker 4: If he is not good after this year, I think 384 00:17:58,240 --> 00:17:58,960 Speaker 4: I gotta be out. 385 00:18:00,520 --> 00:18:02,640 Speaker 1: Last chance you for Marv Rickson, what do you think 386 00:18:02,840 --> 00:18:04,960 Speaker 1: your three breakout for Marvin Harrison Junior. 387 00:18:05,520 --> 00:18:07,120 Speaker 3: I don't know if we're going to see any breakouts 388 00:18:07,160 --> 00:18:10,320 Speaker 3: on the Arizona Cardinals, Like that's my biggest concern. I 389 00:18:10,400 --> 00:18:12,679 Speaker 3: know we had breakouts last year with Michael Wilson. Obviously, 390 00:18:12,720 --> 00:18:15,560 Speaker 3: Trey McBride melted faces, but Rode already established himself the 391 00:18:15,640 --> 00:18:17,480 Speaker 3: year before, so that wasn't as much as a breakout 392 00:18:17,600 --> 00:18:18,600 Speaker 3: more of it just like, hey. 393 00:18:18,520 --> 00:18:22,159 Speaker 2: This guy just ran so hot, finally scored touchdowns. 394 00:18:22,440 --> 00:18:25,240 Speaker 4: Most passes in the NFL by allaw Yeah. 395 00:18:25,160 --> 00:18:27,680 Speaker 3: Yeah right now, handhold them with Bonnix, right, just you 396 00:18:27,760 --> 00:18:30,000 Speaker 3: know who was throwing the most passes last year. Now, 397 00:18:30,119 --> 00:18:33,520 Speaker 3: the thing with Harrison for me is going back to 398 00:18:33,640 --> 00:18:36,480 Speaker 3: the environmental factors. I know that we talked about this 399 00:18:36,680 --> 00:18:38,120 Speaker 3: on I think it was a show that we also 400 00:18:38,240 --> 00:18:40,760 Speaker 3: did box together, whereas like Marvin Harrison Junior versus Roma 401 00:18:40,800 --> 00:18:43,639 Speaker 3: Dunsa and talking about who has a higher ceiling and 402 00:18:43,760 --> 00:18:46,600 Speaker 3: if you just kind of the player agnostic and just 403 00:18:46,640 --> 00:18:48,080 Speaker 3: look at do you want someone on the Bears or 404 00:18:48,080 --> 00:18:50,679 Speaker 3: do you want someone on the Cardinals? Like which offense 405 00:18:50,800 --> 00:18:53,960 Speaker 3: is more likely to just produce a monster performance that 406 00:18:54,119 --> 00:18:56,240 Speaker 3: Oh who could forget that that player was that good 407 00:18:56,320 --> 00:18:58,560 Speaker 3: this year. I'm not I'm leaving the door open for 408 00:18:58,800 --> 00:19:01,960 Speaker 3: Marvin Harrison you to bet, because I mean the first 409 00:19:02,000 --> 00:19:04,960 Speaker 3: two years have been really disappointing and something that I've 410 00:19:05,000 --> 00:19:07,440 Speaker 3: been looking more at as I've been looking at some 411 00:19:07,560 --> 00:19:10,440 Speaker 3: past historical ADP trying to find certain trends of, well, 412 00:19:10,480 --> 00:19:12,439 Speaker 3: what is the market telling us about these certain players? 413 00:19:12,640 --> 00:19:15,320 Speaker 3: Is it's not a very good indication when a wide 414 00:19:15,359 --> 00:19:18,760 Speaker 3: receiver has fallen in ADP for three straight seasons, Like 415 00:19:18,840 --> 00:19:21,000 Speaker 3: that is not a claim, Oh this is a bounce 416 00:19:21,080 --> 00:19:23,399 Speaker 3: back opportunity. This is no, Like, this is going in 417 00:19:23,480 --> 00:19:25,480 Speaker 3: the wrong direction when you look at your three players. 418 00:19:25,520 --> 00:19:27,840 Speaker 3: When you talk about your three players, you talk about 419 00:19:27,960 --> 00:19:28,680 Speaker 3: players that are. 420 00:19:28,640 --> 00:19:29,199 Speaker 2: On the ascend. 421 00:19:29,680 --> 00:19:32,840 Speaker 3: Does Marvin Harrison Junior feel like an ascending player? He 422 00:19:32,880 --> 00:19:34,640 Speaker 3: feels like a player that we're just trying to hold 423 00:19:34,680 --> 00:19:37,080 Speaker 3: out for hope for Like that's what gets me concerned. 424 00:19:37,119 --> 00:19:38,840 Speaker 3: And this is like I thought about all this stuff 425 00:19:38,840 --> 00:19:42,119 Speaker 3: before this drop crap was coming out. Again, everything always 426 00:19:42,160 --> 00:19:44,560 Speaker 3: gets like yeah, like I'm not focused on that, Like 427 00:19:44,800 --> 00:19:47,320 Speaker 3: I'm not trying to pile on or the quotes that 428 00:19:47,359 --> 00:19:49,400 Speaker 3: he was like he's losing his confidence, Like I don't 429 00:19:49,400 --> 00:19:51,800 Speaker 3: really care about that stuff. I'm looking specifically at historical 430 00:19:51,920 --> 00:19:54,200 Speaker 3: data when it comes to players with this type of profile, 431 00:19:54,800 --> 00:19:57,720 Speaker 3: it has not been beneficial to buying the dip on 432 00:19:57,840 --> 00:20:00,880 Speaker 3: this player, and in fact, it more likely he continues 433 00:20:00,920 --> 00:20:01,480 Speaker 3: to decline. 434 00:20:01,880 --> 00:20:03,480 Speaker 2: So I do think Harrison Junior. 435 00:20:03,280 --> 00:20:06,600 Speaker 3: Can be better this year, But is it a point 436 00:20:06,640 --> 00:20:09,320 Speaker 3: where he has a top five fantasy ceiling. I don't 437 00:20:09,320 --> 00:20:11,320 Speaker 3: know if that's going to exist with it in the 438 00:20:11,440 --> 00:20:14,040 Speaker 3: context of the Arizona Cardinals. Again, I'm not trying to 439 00:20:14,080 --> 00:20:17,800 Speaker 3: rain on box pick here, but again, Marvin Harrison Junior, 440 00:20:17,800 --> 00:20:19,359 Speaker 3: he's he's a player. I've had a lot of trouble 441 00:20:19,480 --> 00:20:21,959 Speaker 3: just like feeling really confident about clicking and any kind 442 00:20:22,000 --> 00:20:23,679 Speaker 3: of drafts I've been doing this offseason so far. 443 00:20:24,400 --> 00:20:27,600 Speaker 4: Yeah, it's the offense. It's the change in the offense 444 00:20:27,840 --> 00:20:31,320 Speaker 4: that I am looking forward to. And like I said, 445 00:20:31,359 --> 00:20:34,640 Speaker 4: everyone's playing for the second fiddle behind Trey McBride, of course, 446 00:20:34,960 --> 00:20:40,080 Speaker 4: but thirty first among wide receivers in half point ecr 447 00:20:40,160 --> 00:20:42,800 Speaker 4: here a couple of guys behind him. I know you're 448 00:20:42,960 --> 00:20:45,760 Speaker 4: you would take Parker Washington over him, Yes, yeah, I 449 00:20:45,840 --> 00:20:47,840 Speaker 4: think so. What about Alec Pierce? 450 00:20:49,760 --> 00:20:52,240 Speaker 3: Alec Pierce I have ranked below because I'm worried about 451 00:20:52,280 --> 00:20:53,720 Speaker 3: him coming off of his injury. 452 00:20:53,600 --> 00:20:59,000 Speaker 4: So BTJ Marv DK Metcalf, I. 453 00:20:59,000 --> 00:21:03,120 Speaker 3: Don't want no part of d so again, like I think, 454 00:21:03,320 --> 00:21:06,680 Speaker 3: person especially with him likely to fall again. I'm not 455 00:21:06,720 --> 00:21:08,840 Speaker 3: saying he can't. Yeah, he did, but in terms of 456 00:21:09,040 --> 00:21:11,119 Speaker 3: hey top five, top ten ceiling. 457 00:21:11,680 --> 00:21:12,760 Speaker 2: I don't I don't know. 458 00:21:12,920 --> 00:21:14,600 Speaker 4: Yeah, top ten ceiling might not be it. But I 459 00:21:14,680 --> 00:21:16,919 Speaker 4: do think he could be a wide receiver two. Uh, 460 00:21:17,119 --> 00:21:19,119 Speaker 4: that's being drafted as a wide receiver three right now, 461 00:21:19,160 --> 00:21:21,160 Speaker 4: and that that is what And he hasn't broken out, 462 00:21:21,280 --> 00:21:24,159 Speaker 4: like there's a lot left in there, but is it 463 00:21:24,320 --> 00:21:27,119 Speaker 4: really in there? I think that's fair right, And the 464 00:21:27,560 --> 00:21:30,200 Speaker 4: declining ADP is bad. I agree with you there, but 465 00:21:30,680 --> 00:21:34,119 Speaker 4: I do think that now that he's had a proper ADP, 466 00:21:34,480 --> 00:21:37,600 Speaker 4: now he's finally maybe he could be a value. 467 00:21:37,440 --> 00:21:39,879 Speaker 3: Finally, maybe he can be a wide receiver three like 468 00:21:40,359 --> 00:21:41,960 Speaker 3: where he's appropriately. 469 00:21:43,320 --> 00:21:45,480 Speaker 4: Look, this is it for him, I'm saying, but I 470 00:21:46,160 --> 00:21:49,080 Speaker 4: am the dummy putting on the makeup, you know, like 471 00:21:49,200 --> 00:21:51,960 Speaker 4: the Kyle Pitts group going, you know what, this is 472 00:21:52,000 --> 00:21:53,280 Speaker 4: the year, this is the year. 473 00:21:53,400 --> 00:21:55,800 Speaker 2: Well wait, basically with Kyle Pitts was once everyone was 474 00:21:55,880 --> 00:21:57,800 Speaker 2: finally done, then he. 475 00:21:57,840 --> 00:22:00,760 Speaker 4: Hit yeah everybody but fits this was the only guy 476 00:22:00,840 --> 00:22:01,080 Speaker 4: in life. 477 00:22:01,240 --> 00:22:03,240 Speaker 2: Shah yeah, Well. 478 00:22:03,200 --> 00:22:05,520 Speaker 1: Week fifteen cop hits. I mean, everybody's gonna remember whatever 479 00:22:05,560 --> 00:22:07,560 Speaker 1: that week that was fifteen to sixteen never was ever better. 480 00:22:07,560 --> 00:22:11,120 Speaker 1: Remember that. Well, one receiver that was mentioned, Parker Washington. 481 00:22:11,359 --> 00:22:13,000 Speaker 1: I believe you have some thoughts on him. 482 00:22:13,200 --> 00:22:17,400 Speaker 3: Ericson, Yeah, Parker Washington was kind of my big takeaway 483 00:22:17,520 --> 00:22:20,439 Speaker 3: player when I went in It's on Fantasy spros right 484 00:22:20,480 --> 00:22:25,000 Speaker 3: now identifying first time wide receiver ones, and Parker Washington 485 00:22:25,119 --> 00:22:26,560 Speaker 3: was the player that really stood out to me the 486 00:22:26,680 --> 00:22:30,159 Speaker 3: most when it comes to the boxes and thresholds that 487 00:22:30,200 --> 00:22:32,720 Speaker 3: I'm looking for for a player poise to make that 488 00:22:32,880 --> 00:22:35,080 Speaker 3: leap to be a top twelve fantasy receiver for the 489 00:22:35,200 --> 00:22:37,760 Speaker 3: very first time. Something that I've looked at is players 490 00:22:37,760 --> 00:22:41,080 Speaker 3: that are efficient after the catch while also seeing far 491 00:22:41,200 --> 00:22:44,600 Speaker 3: targets down the field, because you think intuitively, it's harder 492 00:22:44,680 --> 00:22:46,359 Speaker 3: for those players, right if you're seeing a lot of 493 00:22:46,359 --> 00:22:48,320 Speaker 3: downfield targets, it's just harder for you to generate yards 494 00:22:48,359 --> 00:22:50,200 Speaker 3: out to the catch. Well, Parker Washington was top thirty 495 00:22:50,440 --> 00:22:52,400 Speaker 3: and both those categories last year, and both the yards 496 00:22:52,400 --> 00:22:54,560 Speaker 3: out of the catch and average up of target. He 497 00:22:54,680 --> 00:22:57,359 Speaker 3: was also very good at converting his air yards into 498 00:22:57,560 --> 00:23:01,159 Speaker 3: actual receiving yards, ranked fifth in which is that metric? 499 00:23:01,520 --> 00:23:04,800 Speaker 3: So for me, it's year four players. We saw three 500 00:23:04,840 --> 00:23:07,120 Speaker 3: of these guys breakout last year for the very first time. 501 00:23:07,160 --> 00:23:11,800 Speaker 3: Between pickens, Chris o'lave and who's the last guy that 502 00:23:11,880 --> 00:23:15,040 Speaker 3: did it, Chris Olave, George Pickens, and Jameson Williams. 503 00:23:15,240 --> 00:23:16,800 Speaker 2: It was James Williams, Michael Wiwis. 504 00:23:16,840 --> 00:23:19,680 Speaker 3: It was his third year, Michael Wilson, but again that 505 00:23:19,840 --> 00:23:24,520 Speaker 3: year four breakout archetype. We've seen him obviously thrive in 506 00:23:24,600 --> 00:23:27,320 Speaker 3: the slot. That is where we've seen a ton of production. 507 00:23:27,480 --> 00:23:29,600 Speaker 3: Going back to Chris Goden and Liam Cohen's offense with 508 00:23:29,600 --> 00:23:32,159 Speaker 3: the Tama Bay Buccaneers, Chris Godwin before his injury was 509 00:23:32,720 --> 00:23:36,000 Speaker 3: a top three scoring fantasy wide receiver, just absolutely on 510 00:23:36,160 --> 00:23:37,840 Speaker 3: fire before he went down with an injury. 511 00:23:38,400 --> 00:23:41,199 Speaker 2: Trevor Lawrence and Perker Washington, they have a connection, right. 512 00:23:41,680 --> 00:23:43,760 Speaker 3: Parker Washington has been on the Jaguars for a long 513 00:23:43,840 --> 00:23:46,640 Speaker 3: time with Trevor Lawrence as the quarterback, and I remember 514 00:23:46,800 --> 00:23:49,639 Speaker 3: reading things coming out of Jags camp where the team, 515 00:23:49,800 --> 00:23:53,160 Speaker 3: even before Liam Cohen was there, was really excited about 516 00:23:53,200 --> 00:23:55,720 Speaker 3: Parker Washington taking over after the team was going to 517 00:23:55,720 --> 00:23:57,760 Speaker 3: be done with Christian Kirk. And I think it got 518 00:23:57,800 --> 00:24:00,280 Speaker 3: delayed a little bit because the Jaguars obviously go out 519 00:24:00,400 --> 00:24:01,280 Speaker 3: and draft Travis Hunter. 520 00:24:01,359 --> 00:24:02,800 Speaker 2: They play him in the slot to start the year. 521 00:24:03,000 --> 00:24:03,920 Speaker 2: He obviously goes down. 522 00:24:04,000 --> 00:24:07,240 Speaker 3: But then once Parker Washington was put into that starting role, 523 00:24:07,680 --> 00:24:09,919 Speaker 3: I mean it was wheels up weeks nine through eighteen, 524 00:24:10,200 --> 00:24:12,480 Speaker 3: fourteen point two points per game, led the team in 525 00:24:12,480 --> 00:24:14,919 Speaker 3: air yards thirty two percent, aer yards share average, seventy 526 00:24:14,960 --> 00:24:17,560 Speaker 3: three receiving yards per game, two point eight yards per 527 00:24:17,640 --> 00:24:20,680 Speaker 3: rout run twenty five percent target rate just like pretty 528 00:24:20,760 --> 00:24:22,800 Speaker 3: insane bunkers number twenty. 529 00:24:22,600 --> 00:24:23,480 Speaker 2: Four year old player. 530 00:24:23,840 --> 00:24:26,159 Speaker 3: So I get the hesitation behind it because there's so 531 00:24:26,200 --> 00:24:28,639 Speaker 3: many miles to feed this Jaguars offense. You know, Travis 532 00:24:28,680 --> 00:24:30,680 Speaker 3: Hunter are gonna like hurt his bottom line if he 533 00:24:30,760 --> 00:24:32,680 Speaker 3: just plays even a handful of snaps on offense. Still, 534 00:24:32,720 --> 00:24:34,840 Speaker 3: it's taking away targets from a player that also operates 535 00:24:34,840 --> 00:24:37,840 Speaker 3: from the slot. Can betj return to his rookie year form? 536 00:24:37,920 --> 00:24:39,840 Speaker 3: And I know that Boggs and I both agree that 537 00:24:39,920 --> 00:24:42,800 Speaker 3: Jacoby Myers is just like underrated across the board, But 538 00:24:43,040 --> 00:24:45,879 Speaker 3: when you look at the ceiling play, I think that 539 00:24:46,000 --> 00:24:47,879 Speaker 3: it is Parker Washington based on the fact that he 540 00:24:48,000 --> 00:24:50,000 Speaker 3: has geled so well with Trevor Lawrence we saw in 541 00:24:50,080 --> 00:24:52,800 Speaker 3: the second half of last season, and if he wasn't 542 00:24:52,840 --> 00:24:54,960 Speaker 3: a sixth round draft pick, I think we would be 543 00:24:55,040 --> 00:24:57,120 Speaker 3: much higher on if he had been a Day two 544 00:24:57,240 --> 00:24:59,800 Speaker 3: pick a round three, round two guy. I don't think 545 00:25:00,119 --> 00:25:02,600 Speaker 3: the hesitation, Oh well, how good is he really? I 546 00:25:02,640 --> 00:25:04,359 Speaker 3: think he showed us last year how good he can be. 547 00:25:04,840 --> 00:25:07,600 Speaker 3: And last point I want to make is again a 548 00:25:07,640 --> 00:25:10,000 Speaker 3: lot of his production came with guys were injured. This 549 00:25:10,160 --> 00:25:12,240 Speaker 3: was a case that was used against Amon Roussaint Brown 550 00:25:12,560 --> 00:25:14,159 Speaker 3: and during his second season where he only did it 551 00:25:14,200 --> 00:25:16,800 Speaker 3: because everyone got hurt. Well, there's plenty of guys, trust me, 552 00:25:16,840 --> 00:25:19,280 Speaker 3: I've been there playing DFS. Oh, I'm gonna play this 553 00:25:19,400 --> 00:25:22,080 Speaker 3: guy bottom salary because everybody's out. And then they just 554 00:25:22,160 --> 00:25:23,679 Speaker 3: go out and just lay at Goose Egg and they 555 00:25:23,760 --> 00:25:26,120 Speaker 3: do absolutely nothing. And it's not a guarantee that guys 556 00:25:26,200 --> 00:25:29,040 Speaker 3: produce when another teammate missed his time. So again it's 557 00:25:29,080 --> 00:25:31,520 Speaker 3: not an apples to apples comparison compared to the Sun God, 558 00:25:31,600 --> 00:25:33,639 Speaker 3: but something that I just wanted to keep in mind that, hey, 559 00:25:33,720 --> 00:25:35,000 Speaker 3: give credit where credit is due. 560 00:25:35,200 --> 00:25:35,840 Speaker 2: He smashed. 561 00:25:36,080 --> 00:25:39,040 Speaker 3: They're really excited about him. And again to quote the 562 00:25:39,160 --> 00:25:41,439 Speaker 3: coach speak, Greg Brainis does a great job. Go make 563 00:25:41,480 --> 00:25:44,320 Speaker 3: sure you go subject to his discord, but for him, 564 00:25:44,720 --> 00:25:48,080 Speaker 3: he talked about how Liam Cohen. Parker Washington is the 565 00:25:48,080 --> 00:25:50,560 Speaker 3: first man in the building. He is a five am grinder. 566 00:25:50,880 --> 00:25:52,880 Speaker 3: That's where he's going. So I think this guy's gonna 567 00:25:52,880 --> 00:25:55,119 Speaker 3: get paid sooner rather than later. I think he's going 568 00:25:55,160 --> 00:25:57,080 Speaker 3: to be the Jaguars number one wide receiver this year. 569 00:25:57,200 --> 00:25:59,480 Speaker 3: So for me high on Ti Law this year, I 570 00:25:59,520 --> 00:26:01,320 Speaker 3: think you should high on park Washington as well, because 571 00:26:01,320 --> 00:26:02,200 Speaker 3: I think the upside is there. 572 00:26:03,760 --> 00:26:05,720 Speaker 1: Yeah, definitely some value in Jacksonville this year because I 573 00:26:05,720 --> 00:26:07,560 Speaker 1: think the guys an're really going that high considering how 574 00:26:07,800 --> 00:26:10,080 Speaker 1: well the offense did last year. Scott, you went on 575 00:26:10,119 --> 00:26:12,719 Speaker 1: Parker Washington, anybody else in Jacksonville that you think might 576 00:26:13,320 --> 00:26:14,560 Speaker 1: might take away some of those targets. 577 00:26:14,960 --> 00:26:17,920 Speaker 4: So this is how I recently compared the Jacksonville Jaguars 578 00:26:18,000 --> 00:26:20,720 Speaker 4: scenario to something in my life. You ever go into 579 00:26:20,800 --> 00:26:23,680 Speaker 4: a casino, right, and you see the games that you 580 00:26:23,880 --> 00:26:26,200 Speaker 4: don't know how to play at all, and you watch 581 00:26:26,280 --> 00:26:29,000 Speaker 4: somebody else play. That's what I'm doing with the Jaguars 582 00:26:29,080 --> 00:26:32,479 Speaker 4: situation this year. I'm acting like it's backer rat right, 583 00:26:32,640 --> 00:26:35,520 Speaker 4: Like I don't know what to do here. I'm just 584 00:26:35,600 --> 00:26:39,840 Speaker 4: gonna watch somebody else play and watch on the sideline. 585 00:26:40,119 --> 00:26:44,960 Speaker 4: I can't figure out the an appropriate level to jump 586 00:26:45,040 --> 00:26:47,959 Speaker 4: in on the Jaguars, because I think Parker Washington has 587 00:26:48,040 --> 00:26:50,960 Speaker 4: the most upside, right, But BTJ is going to play 588 00:26:50,960 --> 00:26:54,200 Speaker 4: in thirteen personnel? How much thirteen personnel are we using? 589 00:26:54,280 --> 00:26:59,280 Speaker 4: Since we drafted Borcature and Cozy All and extended Brenton Strange, 590 00:26:59,520 --> 00:27:03,520 Speaker 4: Jacoby Myers came in and played more snaps than Parker Washington. 591 00:27:03,760 --> 00:27:06,280 Speaker 4: They're keeping Parker Washington as the punt return, which is 592 00:27:06,320 --> 00:27:09,000 Speaker 4: something you typically don't do with some of your best 593 00:27:09,080 --> 00:27:13,280 Speaker 4: weapons on offense. So it all looks like a Ouiji 594 00:27:13,359 --> 00:27:15,879 Speaker 4: board to me, and I don't know how it works, 595 00:27:16,000 --> 00:27:19,040 Speaker 4: so I have been basically just avoiding. I think I 596 00:27:19,119 --> 00:27:24,200 Speaker 4: have every Jaguars wide receiver under ECR except I'm right 597 00:27:24,320 --> 00:27:27,600 Speaker 4: on ECR for Jacobe Myers at forty four, so I'm 598 00:27:27,640 --> 00:27:30,160 Speaker 4: probably just not going to be I'm gonna draft Tee 599 00:27:30,200 --> 00:27:32,399 Speaker 4: law a bunch, but that's probably gonna be it. 600 00:27:33,160 --> 00:27:35,800 Speaker 1: Yeah, the answer could just be Trevor Lawrence Ray. It 601 00:27:35,840 --> 00:27:38,000 Speaker 1: will be the answer. But yeah, we did talk about 602 00:27:38,720 --> 00:27:42,200 Speaker 1: Liam Cohen's slot receiver from twenty four still on the Buccaneers. 603 00:27:42,240 --> 00:27:44,240 Speaker 1: Chris Godwin Scott, I believe you have some thoughts on him. 604 00:27:44,960 --> 00:27:48,280 Speaker 4: Yeah, same deal as Mike Evans. But Godwin is wide receiver, 605 00:27:48,800 --> 00:27:52,119 Speaker 4: the first wide receiver four at thirty seven. Right now, 606 00:27:52,200 --> 00:27:55,560 Speaker 4: he's another year removed from that brutal broken fibula. The 607 00:27:55,680 --> 00:27:58,080 Speaker 4: Bucks moved on from Mike Evans in favor of the 608 00:27:58,160 --> 00:28:00,720 Speaker 4: rookie book of Godwin and Jayleen McMillan. But let us 609 00:28:00,760 --> 00:28:03,760 Speaker 4: not forget that Chris Godwin had a stretch on three 610 00:28:03,880 --> 00:28:06,520 Speaker 4: of three state seasons with eighty three at least eighty 611 00:28:06,560 --> 00:28:09,080 Speaker 4: three catches in the thy twenty three yards before the 612 00:28:09,119 --> 00:28:12,320 Speaker 4: broken fibula in twenty twenty four. All reports indicate that 613 00:28:12,359 --> 00:28:14,680 Speaker 4: he was sharp and smooth coming back in OTAs. I 614 00:28:14,720 --> 00:28:17,479 Speaker 4: expect him to be much closer to the prime Godwin than, 615 00:28:17,920 --> 00:28:20,040 Speaker 4: you know, the guy that was that we saw last 616 00:28:20,119 --> 00:28:22,480 Speaker 4: year who really came back too soon. Another thing that 617 00:28:22,520 --> 00:28:25,000 Speaker 4: we're talking about with these Pollyanna injuries, right, a lot 618 00:28:25,040 --> 00:28:27,600 Speaker 4: of times you rush these guys back too soon and 619 00:28:27,720 --> 00:28:29,480 Speaker 4: they do not work out. I feel like that is 620 00:28:29,600 --> 00:28:33,440 Speaker 4: exactly what happened with Chris Godwin last season. But he's 621 00:28:33,480 --> 00:28:36,399 Speaker 4: not ancient. He just turned thirty in February. In that 622 00:28:36,520 --> 00:28:39,600 Speaker 4: stretch of you know, the eighty three in oneenty twenty 623 00:28:39,640 --> 00:28:42,520 Speaker 4: three minimum. He's finished as wide receiver seventeen twenty and 624 00:28:42,600 --> 00:28:45,760 Speaker 4: thirty one, so never below a wide receiver three at 625 00:28:45,800 --> 00:28:48,560 Speaker 4: any point in a wide receiver two in twenty one 626 00:28:48,640 --> 00:28:51,680 Speaker 4: and twenty two, and that was because he was low 627 00:28:51,760 --> 00:28:55,040 Speaker 4: in touchdowns because that was when Mike Evans had thirty 628 00:28:55,120 --> 00:28:58,479 Speaker 4: three touchdowns in that stretch and I believe Chris Godwin 629 00:28:58,520 --> 00:29:01,760 Speaker 4: had ten and he's gone. So you know, I think, 630 00:29:02,280 --> 00:29:04,640 Speaker 4: and I have a BUCA ranks higher I do. You know, 631 00:29:04,760 --> 00:29:07,840 Speaker 4: there's some camps that are way in love with Chris 632 00:29:07,880 --> 00:29:09,920 Speaker 4: Godwin and think he's going to be the number one 633 00:29:09,920 --> 00:29:12,200 Speaker 4: wide receiver on the Bucks. I'm not quite there. I 634 00:29:12,280 --> 00:29:14,680 Speaker 4: think it's going to be Agbuka, but I do think 635 00:29:14,760 --> 00:29:17,400 Speaker 4: that another year removed from this injury, with no Mike Evans, 636 00:29:17,760 --> 00:29:20,000 Speaker 4: I think his reception and his touchdowns are going to 637 00:29:20,160 --> 00:29:23,440 Speaker 4: improve exponentially this season from what they were last year 638 00:29:23,520 --> 00:29:25,080 Speaker 4: because he's not dealing with that and he doesn't have 639 00:29:25,160 --> 00:29:26,920 Speaker 4: Mike Evans to deal with. So I just think there's 640 00:29:26,960 --> 00:29:29,040 Speaker 4: a lot of volume that is going to be moved 641 00:29:29,120 --> 00:29:32,360 Speaker 4: towards Chris Godwin this season, and we've seen him handle 642 00:29:32,440 --> 00:29:36,360 Speaker 4: it before and handle it well. Liam Cohen loves Chris Godwin, 643 00:29:36,680 --> 00:29:38,960 Speaker 4: and I think him being healthy is a part of 644 00:29:38,960 --> 00:29:42,440 Speaker 4: the reason they were They walked on Mike Evans, and 645 00:29:42,600 --> 00:29:45,240 Speaker 4: I know Mike Evans was frustrated specifically last year. You 646 00:29:45,280 --> 00:29:47,720 Speaker 4: could see it. I think it was week fifteen where 647 00:29:47,840 --> 00:29:50,480 Speaker 4: he was throwing his hands up and it looked like 648 00:29:50,560 --> 00:29:54,120 Speaker 4: he was about done with his Bucks adventure. But I 649 00:29:54,200 --> 00:29:56,640 Speaker 4: think Chris Godwin will have a great year and we 650 00:29:56,800 --> 00:30:00,640 Speaker 4: know that scortch shirts Baker Mayfield is a fun thing 651 00:30:00,720 --> 00:30:02,880 Speaker 4: to watch and we are going to get it this season. 652 00:30:03,880 --> 00:30:05,960 Speaker 1: Yeah, coming off of the disappointing last year where he 653 00:30:06,080 --> 00:30:08,280 Speaker 1: was I feel like he had like seven injuries last year, 654 00:30:08,480 --> 00:30:12,400 Speaker 1: starting early than the contract situation. So ericson, no, you don't, 655 00:30:12,560 --> 00:30:14,120 Speaker 1: you're not in on the Baker in the Bucks. 656 00:30:14,200 --> 00:30:17,280 Speaker 3: This, I mean I was like a sign because he 657 00:30:17,480 --> 00:30:19,760 Speaker 3: was so banged up last year and you know, yeah, 658 00:30:19,800 --> 00:30:21,920 Speaker 3: you would know more about it if you guys been 659 00:30:21,960 --> 00:30:25,280 Speaker 3: watching the Quarterback documentary on Netflix. I think it was 660 00:30:25,360 --> 00:30:28,200 Speaker 3: like week four, week five. His bicep is just like 661 00:30:28,320 --> 00:30:31,080 Speaker 3: totally black and blue after hit he played in the 662 00:30:31,160 --> 00:30:33,160 Speaker 3: Jets game. So that was like really early in the season, 663 00:30:33,200 --> 00:30:35,040 Speaker 3: and then we get way more injuries he's playing with, 664 00:30:35,160 --> 00:30:38,960 Speaker 3: and that coincided with Egbuka's dramatic falloff in the second 665 00:30:39,000 --> 00:30:41,520 Speaker 3: half of the season. So agreed, you want to be 666 00:30:41,640 --> 00:30:44,880 Speaker 3: high on these Buccaneers players, I think relative to their 667 00:30:44,960 --> 00:30:48,120 Speaker 3: ADP because Baker Mayfield when he's an underdog, when he's 668 00:30:48,200 --> 00:30:51,080 Speaker 3: being counted out, when he's playing for a contract. Man, 669 00:30:51,080 --> 00:30:53,880 Speaker 3: the Buccaneers are definitely rolling the dice because they're taking 670 00:30:53,920 --> 00:30:56,600 Speaker 3: a big risk, but they're also guaranteeing we're gonna get 671 00:30:56,640 --> 00:31:00,320 Speaker 3: production from quarterback this year whether and it's just a 672 00:31:00,320 --> 00:31:02,200 Speaker 3: matter of can Baker stay healthy? Right. I think that's 673 00:31:02,240 --> 00:31:04,120 Speaker 3: the reason why they haven't signed him into a long 674 00:31:04,200 --> 00:31:06,840 Speaker 3: term deal yet is because hey, man, you play like 675 00:31:06,920 --> 00:31:09,200 Speaker 3: your hair's on fire, and we love it. But from 676 00:31:09,280 --> 00:31:12,960 Speaker 3: a contractal like standpoint as an organization, if we're going 677 00:31:13,040 --> 00:31:15,600 Speaker 3: to sign you through a multi year deal, you've got 678 00:31:15,680 --> 00:31:17,280 Speaker 3: to show you can stay healthy and take care of 679 00:31:17,360 --> 00:31:20,320 Speaker 3: your body. Which, again, the way he plays recklessly a 680 00:31:20,360 --> 00:31:22,280 Speaker 3: little bit at times, it's part of his game. It's 681 00:31:22,320 --> 00:31:24,600 Speaker 3: part of what makes him Baker Mayfield. And it's gonna 682 00:31:24,600 --> 00:31:26,440 Speaker 3: be fun to watch him suit up on Sundays for sure. 683 00:31:27,960 --> 00:31:30,120 Speaker 1: Yeah, for sure. We got one more wide receiver Erickson 684 00:31:30,360 --> 00:31:30,840 Speaker 1: take us home. 685 00:31:31,320 --> 00:31:34,160 Speaker 3: I'm also going with another rookie wide receiver. I'm really 686 00:31:34,320 --> 00:31:37,240 Speaker 3: glad that Boggs did bring up Cardonel Tate earlier in 687 00:31:37,360 --> 00:31:39,400 Speaker 3: the show, because he was someone I was also really considering. 688 00:31:39,440 --> 00:31:41,280 Speaker 3: But I went one step down to a player going 689 00:31:41,280 --> 00:31:44,600 Speaker 3: a little bit cheaper with Jordan Tyson. But both players 690 00:31:44,880 --> 00:31:48,560 Speaker 3: were drafted inside the top ten as rookies. I think 691 00:31:48,600 --> 00:31:51,480 Speaker 3: that this is just a glaring mistake in the market 692 00:31:51,600 --> 00:31:54,160 Speaker 3: right now, where you're looking at just average production of 693 00:31:54,200 --> 00:31:57,560 Speaker 3: receivers that are drafted top ten last five drafts average 694 00:31:57,560 --> 00:32:00,400 Speaker 3: seventy eight catches over one thousand yards and six point four. 695 00:32:00,360 --> 00:32:01,760 Speaker 2: Touchdowns as rookies. 696 00:32:02,240 --> 00:32:05,440 Speaker 3: That means that just based on averages, Cornel Tay and 697 00:32:05,520 --> 00:32:08,400 Speaker 3: Jordan Tyson are screening values where they're going right now 698 00:32:08,760 --> 00:32:12,719 Speaker 3: just to meet expectation. And then you have the potential of, oh, well, 699 00:32:12,760 --> 00:32:15,320 Speaker 3: if this guy is just the next Jefferson or Chase 700 00:32:15,640 --> 00:32:17,040 Speaker 3: or one of those types of players. And I'm not 701 00:32:17,320 --> 00:32:19,760 Speaker 3: saying that's exactly how these things shake out, but these 702 00:32:19,840 --> 00:32:22,120 Speaker 3: rookies have unknown potential, like we don't know how they're 703 00:32:22,160 --> 00:32:24,480 Speaker 3: going to do. But I feel really confident about Jordan 704 00:32:24,520 --> 00:32:26,880 Speaker 3: Tyson when he is healthy again. Eighth overall pick this 705 00:32:27,080 --> 00:32:30,720 Speaker 3: last year to the New Orleans Saints. Nine healthy games 706 00:32:30,760 --> 00:32:33,520 Speaker 3: in twenty twenty five, second in the nation, and targets 707 00:32:34,320 --> 00:32:38,080 Speaker 3: absolute dominant target chair at thirty five percent. We know 708 00:32:38,200 --> 00:32:40,840 Speaker 3: the injuries have obviously held him back, but so far, 709 00:32:40,880 --> 00:32:42,960 Speaker 3: at least at the start training camp, he's out there. 710 00:32:43,040 --> 00:32:44,720 Speaker 2: The hamstring doesn't seem to be bothering. 711 00:32:44,880 --> 00:32:47,440 Speaker 3: So I was retweeting setting out the prayer emojis because 712 00:32:47,440 --> 00:32:49,640 Speaker 3: I'm like, yes, we have someone that we don't have 713 00:32:49,680 --> 00:32:52,040 Speaker 3: a Ricky pearsall kind of incident here going on. Jordan 714 00:32:52,080 --> 00:32:54,160 Speaker 3: Tyson is out there and he's healthy so far, and 715 00:32:54,400 --> 00:32:57,640 Speaker 3: when I look at offenses that could take that next step, well, 716 00:32:57,680 --> 00:32:59,280 Speaker 3: the Saints are are one of those teams. 717 00:32:59,320 --> 00:33:01,400 Speaker 2: Tyler Shuck helped Chris olave. 718 00:33:01,480 --> 00:33:03,760 Speaker 3: Break into the fantasy wide receiver one territory for the 719 00:33:03,840 --> 00:33:05,680 Speaker 3: very first time in his career and nearly played half 720 00:33:05,760 --> 00:33:09,040 Speaker 3: of last season and last year before chichiet was traded 721 00:33:09,040 --> 00:33:11,520 Speaker 3: to the Seahawks. He and Chris Olavey were both seeing 722 00:33:11,560 --> 00:33:13,880 Speaker 3: a ton of volume. They were combining for seventeen targets 723 00:33:14,040 --> 00:33:17,000 Speaker 3: per game. Shaheed alongside a lave last year before he 724 00:33:17,040 --> 00:33:20,440 Speaker 3: got traded, was fifteenth in the NFL and wide receiver targets. 725 00:33:20,800 --> 00:33:23,880 Speaker 3: So although Jordan Tyson is the number two on this offense, 726 00:33:24,240 --> 00:33:25,720 Speaker 3: I think the number two in this offense is still 727 00:33:25,720 --> 00:33:28,160 Speaker 3: going to see a ton of volumes. So combining that 728 00:33:28,240 --> 00:33:30,640 Speaker 3: as an elite wide receiver prospect, someone I think is 729 00:33:30,680 --> 00:33:33,640 Speaker 3: going to gel stylistically very well with what Tyler Shuck does. 730 00:33:34,240 --> 00:33:36,240 Speaker 3: I'm really excited. And we just look at the schedule 731 00:33:36,320 --> 00:33:38,760 Speaker 3: right for the Saints, two really tough matchups to open 732 00:33:38,800 --> 00:33:42,000 Speaker 3: the year, but on the road at Detroit against a 733 00:33:42,160 --> 00:33:44,760 Speaker 3: very leaky secondary that still has injuries from last year. 734 00:33:45,600 --> 00:33:48,160 Speaker 3: You you better draft Jordan Tyson because he might it 735 00:33:48,240 --> 00:33:50,120 Speaker 3: might not be taken very long for everyone to know 736 00:33:50,280 --> 00:33:51,480 Speaker 3: him after week one. 737 00:33:53,520 --> 00:33:56,520 Speaker 1: Or trade for him after those first two top weeks drafted. 738 00:33:56,680 --> 00:33:58,720 Speaker 3: Yes, well, I mean, I mean well Week one is 739 00:33:58,960 --> 00:34:01,520 Speaker 3: Week one should be really good. Again, point out Lions 740 00:34:01,560 --> 00:34:03,320 Speaker 3: and in the game it would be pretty high scoring. 741 00:34:04,320 --> 00:34:05,520 Speaker 2: Yeah excited? 742 00:34:06,800 --> 00:34:11,960 Speaker 1: Yeah cool? All right, So last the last segment we 743 00:34:12,040 --> 00:34:14,120 Speaker 1: have here late round league breakers. But before we get 744 00:34:14,200 --> 00:34:17,440 Speaker 1: into that, we're talking about targeting high upside wide receivers. 745 00:34:17,440 --> 00:34:19,680 Speaker 1: That's all good and fun, but it's important to know 746 00:34:19,920 --> 00:34:22,880 Speaker 1: when to pull the trigger without reaching. That's what separates 747 00:34:23,000 --> 00:34:26,720 Speaker 1: champions from consensus picks. 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Start drafting for free right now at 755 00:34:49,520 --> 00:34:53,000 Speaker 1: fantasypros dot com, slash Draft Wizard, or on the Fantasy 756 00:34:53,040 --> 00:34:56,520 Speaker 1: Pros app So I feel like everybody loves talking about sleepers. 757 00:34:56,800 --> 00:34:59,719 Speaker 1: That's the last segment that we have here. Two receivers 758 00:34:59,800 --> 00:35:01,759 Speaker 1: eat taken outside of the top ten according to get 759 00:35:02,160 --> 00:35:05,480 Speaker 1: half PPR ECR ericson will start with you on this one. 760 00:35:06,360 --> 00:35:08,360 Speaker 3: So the reason I didn't include Colonel Tate on my 761 00:35:08,520 --> 00:35:11,960 Speaker 3: list because I included his teammate Wandell Robinson here, and 762 00:35:12,040 --> 00:35:15,520 Speaker 3: this just seems like such a bad, like high ceiling player. 763 00:35:15,640 --> 00:35:19,400 Speaker 2: It's Wandell Robinson. All he does, He's a PPR slot merchant. 764 00:35:19,640 --> 00:35:22,000 Speaker 3: Like there's no upside attached to him, and that's kind 765 00:35:22,000 --> 00:35:24,759 Speaker 3: of how I felt earlier this offseason. But we just 766 00:35:24,880 --> 00:35:28,040 Speaker 3: look at how productive Wandell Robinson has been in Brian 767 00:35:28,120 --> 00:35:31,160 Speaker 3: Davil offenses. There are not that many guys that have 768 00:35:31,520 --> 00:35:34,239 Speaker 3: had at least one hundred and thirty targets in back 769 00:35:34,280 --> 00:35:37,719 Speaker 3: to back seasons the two consecutive seasons. That list is 770 00:35:37,800 --> 00:35:39,880 Speaker 3: Jamar Chase. I'm on rus Saint Brown, Jacksonith and Jake, 771 00:35:39,880 --> 00:35:43,640 Speaker 3: but justin Jefferson and Wandell Robinson, right, I mean, like, 772 00:35:43,760 --> 00:35:45,880 Speaker 3: come on, like I get that not all targets are 773 00:35:45,920 --> 00:35:49,080 Speaker 3: created equally, and a lot of it was just like spamming, 774 00:35:49,160 --> 00:35:51,359 Speaker 3: Especially in twenty twenty four, it was just a lot 775 00:35:51,440 --> 00:35:54,919 Speaker 3: of spamming underneath targets for Wandall Robinson. But last year 776 00:35:55,400 --> 00:35:57,400 Speaker 3: we saw him actually use a little bit more downfield. 777 00:35:57,480 --> 00:36:00,400 Speaker 3: His average up the target nearly doubled. He was nineteenth 778 00:36:00,440 --> 00:36:02,759 Speaker 3: in the NFL in deep targets, So I think he 779 00:36:02,840 --> 00:36:04,840 Speaker 3: can do a little bit more, and he was rewarded 780 00:36:04,880 --> 00:36:07,680 Speaker 3: handsomely by the Tennessee Titans that we need to get 781 00:36:07,840 --> 00:36:10,200 Speaker 3: weapons for our number one wide receiver or for our 782 00:36:10,239 --> 00:36:13,200 Speaker 3: number one quarterback in cam war. Now they took him 783 00:36:13,200 --> 00:36:15,880 Speaker 3: in free agency. They obviously drafted Carnal Tate. But the 784 00:36:15,960 --> 00:36:18,319 Speaker 3: thing that I didn't realize until just kind of diving 785 00:36:18,400 --> 00:36:22,120 Speaker 3: more into it was Wandell Robinson had over one hundred 786 00:36:22,120 --> 00:36:25,400 Speaker 3: and thirty targets in an offense when Malik Neighbors was 787 00:36:25,440 --> 00:36:29,319 Speaker 3: a rookie, so and he was still a Fantasy wide receiver. 788 00:36:29,400 --> 00:36:31,359 Speaker 3: For he's like wide receiver forty one, but he's still 789 00:36:31,400 --> 00:36:34,120 Speaker 3: caught over ninety two passes. He's done that for two 790 00:36:34,200 --> 00:36:37,319 Speaker 3: consecutive seasons, and now he's going later than he did 791 00:36:37,640 --> 00:36:41,080 Speaker 3: that year in twenty twenty four, when Carnel Tate, another rookie, 792 00:36:41,280 --> 00:36:44,640 Speaker 3: is also his main competition for targets. And maybe you 793 00:36:44,680 --> 00:36:46,520 Speaker 3: guys would disagree with me. I don't think Tate is 794 00:36:46,560 --> 00:36:49,240 Speaker 3: anywhere near the prospect that Melik Neighbors is. I understand 795 00:36:49,239 --> 00:36:53,040 Speaker 3: that they're both top picks, but I think that Wandos 796 00:36:53,080 --> 00:36:54,880 Speaker 3: is kind of being undervalued a lot. And I get 797 00:36:54,920 --> 00:36:57,279 Speaker 3: it's because they brought in Tate, But if Tate is 798 00:36:57,360 --> 00:37:01,239 Speaker 3: not an alpha number one Melik Neighbors esqual, then there's 799 00:37:01,280 --> 00:37:03,879 Speaker 3: a scenario where one of Robinson just becomes the number 800 00:37:03,920 --> 00:37:06,640 Speaker 3: one target leader in this offense. Because that's exactly what 801 00:37:06,800 --> 00:37:08,600 Speaker 3: has been the case when Brian Dable has been calling 802 00:37:08,640 --> 00:37:11,640 Speaker 3: the shots. Who's the new offensive coordinator in Tennessee. So 803 00:37:11,880 --> 00:37:13,600 Speaker 3: this was something that kind of came to light when 804 00:37:13,640 --> 00:37:16,520 Speaker 3: I was doing my wide Receiver one breakout articles where 805 00:37:16,560 --> 00:37:18,279 Speaker 3: one that was pretty close last year. No, he was 806 00:37:18,320 --> 00:37:20,120 Speaker 3: on the cusp heps of top fifteen guys, especially in 807 00:37:20,200 --> 00:37:23,120 Speaker 3: full PPR. Now didn't quite crack the top twelve, but 808 00:37:23,560 --> 00:37:25,400 Speaker 3: he checks off a lot of boxes of that player 809 00:37:25,480 --> 00:37:27,800 Speaker 3: on a new team becoming a wide receiver one for 810 00:37:27,840 --> 00:37:30,160 Speaker 3: the very first time, very reminiscent of when Christian Kirk 811 00:37:30,400 --> 00:37:32,080 Speaker 3: went to the Jacksonville Jaguars. 812 00:37:31,680 --> 00:37:33,560 Speaker 2: And everyone was like, why did they sign Christian Kirk? 813 00:37:33,719 --> 00:37:35,120 Speaker 2: What are they doing? And then he just had a 814 00:37:35,200 --> 00:37:35,920 Speaker 2: monster season. 815 00:37:36,040 --> 00:37:38,439 Speaker 3: So if Carl Tate doesn't hit right away or takes 816 00:37:38,480 --> 00:37:40,320 Speaker 3: him a little bit of time, I think one of 817 00:37:40,400 --> 00:37:44,000 Speaker 3: Robinson going as wide receiver fifty. I think that again, 818 00:37:44,000 --> 00:37:45,319 Speaker 3: if I had to make a lock for who's going 819 00:37:45,360 --> 00:37:47,360 Speaker 3: to beat their eightp no matter what, it would be 820 00:37:47,400 --> 00:37:48,080 Speaker 3: one of Robinson. 821 00:37:49,080 --> 00:37:51,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, Scott, I know, I know you're on tape, but 822 00:37:51,400 --> 00:37:53,200 Speaker 1: what do you think about Robinson as well? 823 00:37:53,280 --> 00:37:56,600 Speaker 4: I have won one Dale at thirty nine, So yeah, 824 00:37:56,800 --> 00:37:57,200 Speaker 4: that's good. 825 00:37:57,520 --> 00:37:57,960 Speaker 5: I am. 826 00:37:58,640 --> 00:38:02,520 Speaker 4: I got crushed last year for two takes, right, two 827 00:38:02,600 --> 00:38:06,520 Speaker 4: giants takes. It was Wandale and can Scataboo. So look, 828 00:38:06,640 --> 00:38:08,359 Speaker 4: I had bad takes last year. I'm not gonna sit 829 00:38:08,440 --> 00:38:10,440 Speaker 4: here and say that everything I said was correct, right, 830 00:38:10,760 --> 00:38:14,520 Speaker 4: but I got crushed in the comments for those and 831 00:38:15,719 --> 00:38:19,080 Speaker 4: they both worked out well. And the thing about Wandale 832 00:38:19,719 --> 00:38:22,640 Speaker 4: was our boy Seely specifically gave me crap. He said 833 00:38:22,840 --> 00:38:24,239 Speaker 4: how much more can he do? And I was like, 834 00:38:24,280 --> 00:38:26,560 Speaker 4: why do I need him to do anymore? I don't 835 00:38:26,560 --> 00:38:28,040 Speaker 4: need him to do anymore. I need him to do 836 00:38:28,120 --> 00:38:31,040 Speaker 4: what he did in twenty twenty four, in twenty twenty five. 837 00:38:31,239 --> 00:38:35,960 Speaker 4: And in the Brian Dable offense, the tight end is 838 00:38:36,040 --> 00:38:38,560 Speaker 4: the safety blanket. And I think that Ward and Tate 839 00:38:38,880 --> 00:38:42,120 Speaker 4: compliment each other perfectly. Here we have the deep threat 840 00:38:42,200 --> 00:38:44,920 Speaker 4: in Tate and the dominant thread in Tate. You have 841 00:38:45,280 --> 00:38:49,720 Speaker 4: that underneath safety blanket, grab it and go Wandale Robinson target. 842 00:38:50,080 --> 00:38:52,719 Speaker 4: So this is exactly what Dable wants. This is why 843 00:38:52,760 --> 00:38:55,480 Speaker 4: I brought him. So I think Wandale fits perfectly. He 844 00:38:55,520 --> 00:38:58,239 Speaker 4: already knows all system. And I think as long as 845 00:38:58,360 --> 00:39:00,640 Speaker 4: Ward is as good as I thought he was going 846 00:39:00,719 --> 00:39:02,600 Speaker 4: to be coming in. I think this is going to 847 00:39:02,640 --> 00:39:03,680 Speaker 4: be a success again. 848 00:39:04,239 --> 00:39:07,560 Speaker 3: Boggs, would you be opposed to taking both Tate and 849 00:39:07,760 --> 00:39:10,640 Speaker 3: Wandale in the same team knowing that, okay, maybe if 850 00:39:10,680 --> 00:39:13,239 Speaker 3: Tate starts slowing any capacity, but you have one Dale 851 00:39:13,320 --> 00:39:14,800 Speaker 3: to kind of be the guy that kind of guides 852 00:39:14,840 --> 00:39:17,120 Speaker 3: you along the way, and then Carnel Tate is your 853 00:39:17,360 --> 00:39:19,359 Speaker 3: second half smash when he starts to get a little 854 00:39:19,360 --> 00:39:22,239 Speaker 3: bit more accustomed to the NFL. Because I'm really open 855 00:39:22,280 --> 00:39:24,960 Speaker 3: to doing that because they're both underpriced based on what 856 00:39:25,120 --> 00:39:27,799 Speaker 3: I'm expecting from this Titans passing game, especially with Cam 857 00:39:27,840 --> 00:39:28,480 Speaker 3: wore in a year two. 858 00:39:28,600 --> 00:39:31,560 Speaker 4: It's not I don't like doing that in general, but 859 00:39:31,840 --> 00:39:34,320 Speaker 4: it's not the worst stack I've ever heard of, and 860 00:39:34,400 --> 00:39:37,200 Speaker 4: it's not you know, sometimes you run into bye week 861 00:39:37,239 --> 00:39:39,560 Speaker 4: issues if you have two guys at the same position 862 00:39:39,640 --> 00:39:42,520 Speaker 4: on the same team. But I no, I don't have 863 00:39:42,760 --> 00:39:44,759 Speaker 4: like I'm not fighting against it. I can tell you 864 00:39:44,840 --> 00:39:47,160 Speaker 4: that much. I love One Dale. I think Tate is 865 00:39:47,239 --> 00:39:50,640 Speaker 4: gonna is going to pop out here, so I am 866 00:39:50,760 --> 00:39:52,040 Speaker 4: absolutely on board with that. 867 00:39:53,800 --> 00:39:55,920 Speaker 1: All I'm here is Camboord's sleeper quarterback this year. And 868 00:39:56,080 --> 00:39:58,480 Speaker 1: if you're like GT League something like that, maybe cam 869 00:39:58,680 --> 00:40:02,640 Speaker 1: Ord very oft right, Yeah, Scott, what do you got 870 00:40:02,719 --> 00:40:03,000 Speaker 1: for us? 871 00:40:03,239 --> 00:40:06,480 Speaker 4: How about Jaden Higgins? Jayden Higgins, his ADP is one 872 00:40:06,480 --> 00:40:09,880 Speaker 4: point fifty. I have been won twenty one overall. He 873 00:40:10,200 --> 00:40:12,960 Speaker 4: was wide receiver twenty nine after Week eight, and that 874 00:40:13,200 --> 00:40:15,879 Speaker 4: was with only three games of over seventy percent snap 875 00:40:16,000 --> 00:40:20,200 Speaker 4: share in that stretch he had. Of ten games, he 876 00:40:20,320 --> 00:40:23,800 Speaker 4: finished as a wide receiver three twice, a wide receiver 877 00:40:24,360 --> 00:40:27,799 Speaker 4: two four times, and a wide receiver won once ninth 878 00:40:27,920 --> 00:40:31,480 Speaker 4: in Championship Week. The Texans have three new starting offensive 879 00:40:31,520 --> 00:40:34,200 Speaker 4: linemen and lots of depth on that line now that 880 00:40:34,440 --> 00:40:37,440 Speaker 4: was obviously the problem last season, and improved run game 881 00:40:37,480 --> 00:40:41,040 Speaker 4: with David Montgomery should make Stroud look way better. Della 882 00:40:41,239 --> 00:40:44,840 Speaker 4: is back, but Kirk is gone, and we know Nico 883 00:40:44,920 --> 00:40:48,600 Speaker 4: Collins has this sordid injury history. Higgins has been highlighted 884 00:40:48,640 --> 00:40:52,040 Speaker 4: as the Texans standout early through camp. Demiko Ryan said 885 00:40:52,280 --> 00:40:54,319 Speaker 4: he's a guy that can make plays at every level. 886 00:40:54,560 --> 00:40:57,240 Speaker 4: He can move around the formation, and he is already 887 00:40:57,360 --> 00:41:00,560 Speaker 4: seeing a second year jump for Jayden Hi Higgins. I 888 00:41:00,640 --> 00:41:03,560 Speaker 4: think coming in we were kind of okay, which ioways 889 00:41:03,560 --> 00:41:07,000 Speaker 4: state guys are going to beat Because you took Nico 890 00:41:07,080 --> 00:41:10,720 Speaker 4: Collins junior Jayden Higgins on the same team as Nico Collins, 891 00:41:11,320 --> 00:41:13,279 Speaker 4: it looked like that slot role was going to be 892 00:41:13,480 --> 00:41:16,160 Speaker 4: in way more need So Jalen Nole, I feel like 893 00:41:16,360 --> 00:41:18,920 Speaker 4: last season going in got a little more love than 894 00:41:19,000 --> 00:41:22,439 Speaker 4: Jayden Higgins did, but obviously got beat by Christian Kirk 895 00:41:22,520 --> 00:41:24,800 Speaker 4: for that role. Didn't play a lot and Higgins was 896 00:41:24,880 --> 00:41:27,600 Speaker 4: in there after you know, Nico went down and Xavier 897 00:41:27,680 --> 00:41:30,600 Speaker 4: Hutchinson was banged up after that as well, so we 898 00:41:30,719 --> 00:41:32,560 Speaker 4: saw a lot of Jayden Higgins. I think he's going 899 00:41:32,600 --> 00:41:34,440 Speaker 4: to take a big step this year. I think this 900 00:41:34,640 --> 00:41:36,799 Speaker 4: offense is going to be better what you really want 901 00:41:36,800 --> 00:41:39,400 Speaker 4: from Higgins as scores. He's a big frame guy. He 902 00:41:39,480 --> 00:41:41,399 Speaker 4: can score a lot of touchdowns. And I think they 903 00:41:41,440 --> 00:41:44,360 Speaker 4: are going to approve on offense specifically because the on 904 00:41:44,480 --> 00:41:46,759 Speaker 4: line is better and you know, I know they're gonna 905 00:41:46,760 --> 00:41:49,600 Speaker 4: be running a lot in the second half, but you know, 906 00:41:49,840 --> 00:41:52,360 Speaker 4: I think Higgins can score touchdowns, which is exactly what 907 00:41:52,400 --> 00:41:53,319 Speaker 4: you're gonna want from him. 908 00:41:54,160 --> 00:41:55,960 Speaker 1: Sure, yeah, ericonly want to get your thoughts, But Scott, 909 00:41:55,960 --> 00:41:58,319 Speaker 1: I'm just wondering, did you adjust your rankings slightly when 910 00:41:58,320 --> 00:42:00,640 Speaker 1: you saw CJ's drob walking into camp looking like he 911 00:42:00,800 --> 00:42:02,719 Speaker 1: was like a thirteen year old showing up to middle 912 00:42:02,719 --> 00:42:03,600 Speaker 1: school for the first time. 913 00:42:05,320 --> 00:42:06,920 Speaker 4: You know what, I didn't adjust for that, and I 914 00:42:07,000 --> 00:42:09,240 Speaker 4: also didn't adjust for Beeshawn Robinson's aircut. 915 00:42:09,640 --> 00:42:15,920 Speaker 1: So okay, fair enough. Ericson you went on Jadan Higgins 916 00:42:16,000 --> 00:42:18,720 Speaker 1: or you think it's gonna be second year receiver Jalen Nole. 917 00:42:19,160 --> 00:42:21,160 Speaker 2: Well, Nole's on the NFI list right now. 918 00:42:21,200 --> 00:42:23,960 Speaker 3: He's dealing with a finger injury, and it does concern 919 00:42:24,080 --> 00:42:26,719 Speaker 3: me that from a Nole perspective, if you want to 920 00:42:26,719 --> 00:42:29,120 Speaker 3: be bullish on Nole, that does he have some overlap 921 00:42:29,440 --> 00:42:32,280 Speaker 3: in terms of Tanked Dell's skill set, because it seems 922 00:42:32,320 --> 00:42:34,359 Speaker 3: like the team is ready to at least put Tank 923 00:42:34,400 --> 00:42:37,200 Speaker 3: Tel back out there. I don't know in what capacity 924 00:42:37,360 --> 00:42:39,200 Speaker 3: if he's going to be a full time player, just 925 00:42:39,239 --> 00:42:41,520 Speaker 3: because he's coming off some of these brutal injuries and 926 00:42:41,600 --> 00:42:43,960 Speaker 3: he's an undersized player as well, So I think that 927 00:42:44,080 --> 00:42:46,439 Speaker 3: does kind of hurt the ceiling a little bit for Nole, 928 00:42:46,560 --> 00:42:48,759 Speaker 3: who I do agree, I think, still a really talented guy, 929 00:42:48,840 --> 00:42:50,600 Speaker 3: but just so annoying last year they were playing him 930 00:42:50,600 --> 00:42:53,200 Speaker 3: behind Christian Kirk for so long and even last year 931 00:42:53,239 --> 00:42:55,160 Speaker 3: too with Xapher Hutchinson. Get this guy off the field, 932 00:42:55,400 --> 00:42:57,920 Speaker 3: like this guy is a net negative for this entire offense. 933 00:42:57,960 --> 00:43:01,440 Speaker 3: I get that he's a grinder blocking, but if CJ. 934 00:43:01,520 --> 00:43:03,000 Speaker 3: Strous dropped back to the throw, you got to get 935 00:43:03,040 --> 00:43:04,719 Speaker 3: him his best receivers out there, and that does not 936 00:43:04,760 --> 00:43:07,440 Speaker 3: include Xavier Hutchinson. So Jayden Higgins, I think right now, 937 00:43:07,560 --> 00:43:10,399 Speaker 3: is probably being drafted where his floor is. I can't 938 00:43:10,440 --> 00:43:13,440 Speaker 3: necessarily guarantee that he'll hit the ceiling because we just 939 00:43:13,520 --> 00:43:15,960 Speaker 3: haven't seen the elite version of c J. Stroud, but 940 00:43:16,280 --> 00:43:18,960 Speaker 3: if that guy returns at any point, then Jayden Higgins 941 00:43:19,040 --> 00:43:20,879 Speaker 3: has a ton of upside, especially if there's an injury 942 00:43:20,920 --> 00:43:24,160 Speaker 3: to Nico Collins, where to Bog's point, he's Nico Collins junior, 943 00:43:24,400 --> 00:43:26,640 Speaker 3: So if he is in that Nico Collins role, Okay, 944 00:43:26,920 --> 00:43:28,360 Speaker 3: now you're looking at a player that we would be 945 00:43:28,440 --> 00:43:30,719 Speaker 3: ranking ast the top twenty, maybe even top fifteen guy 946 00:43:30,960 --> 00:43:32,440 Speaker 3: on a week to week basis. So you have his 947 00:43:32,560 --> 00:43:34,600 Speaker 3: standalone role, which I think is going to at least 948 00:43:34,600 --> 00:43:37,879 Speaker 3: provide return on where you draft him in the wide 949 00:43:37,880 --> 00:43:40,640 Speaker 3: receiver fifty range, and then you have that contingent upside. 950 00:43:40,680 --> 00:43:42,400 Speaker 3: You know, if Collins does come up a little bit 951 00:43:42,520 --> 00:43:45,720 Speaker 3: after a route, hurts his hamstring or something like that happens, 952 00:43:45,920 --> 00:43:47,640 Speaker 3: then I think that you're cooking with gas here and 953 00:43:47,880 --> 00:43:50,600 Speaker 3: we're getting c J. Shroud entering his second season. We 954 00:43:50,680 --> 00:43:53,759 Speaker 3: were drafting three Texans receivers inside the top thirty three, 955 00:43:54,040 --> 00:43:56,840 Speaker 3: between Tank, Dell, Stefan, Niggs and Nico Collins. And obviously 956 00:43:56,880 --> 00:43:58,759 Speaker 3: it was a disaster because they appraision, so they all 957 00:43:58,800 --> 00:44:00,880 Speaker 3: got injured and it was just a little mess. But 958 00:44:01,440 --> 00:44:04,040 Speaker 3: at least shines a light on there is that ceiling 959 00:44:04,080 --> 00:44:06,319 Speaker 3: case with Stroud coming back and returning to that rookie 960 00:44:06,400 --> 00:44:08,680 Speaker 3: year form, and Higgins would be a great benefactor. Maybe 961 00:44:08,719 --> 00:44:10,759 Speaker 3: Higgins is the reason why you get to see CJ. 962 00:44:10,840 --> 00:44:12,160 Speaker 3: Stroud return to that form. 963 00:44:12,280 --> 00:44:14,320 Speaker 4: In this team. It has to drop draft Rock go 964 00:44:14,440 --> 00:44:19,960 Speaker 4: back next year. He's works with everybody. It's the offense. 965 00:44:20,200 --> 00:44:23,120 Speaker 2: Yeah, where the bathrooms are, you'll know the facility. 966 00:44:23,440 --> 00:44:25,200 Speaker 4: That'll be great. Yeah. 967 00:44:25,239 --> 00:44:27,080 Speaker 1: I just would have fallen from Grace, Bobby Slow a CJ. 968 00:44:27,160 --> 00:44:29,239 Speaker 1: Strowd After that rookie year, everybody thought they're gonna take 969 00:44:29,239 --> 00:44:31,560 Speaker 1: over the league. And yes, since then, but all right, 970 00:44:31,640 --> 00:44:32,520 Speaker 1: Ericson what else you got for. 971 00:44:32,640 --> 00:44:36,799 Speaker 3: Us, I'm going with my favorite sleeper going really really 972 00:44:36,840 --> 00:44:39,640 Speaker 3: deep in drafts, Trey Harris for the Los Angeles Chargers. 973 00:44:39,680 --> 00:44:42,480 Speaker 3: So he is wide receiver seventy four and ADP And 974 00:44:42,680 --> 00:44:44,879 Speaker 3: this was a cool stat I found from my again 975 00:44:44,880 --> 00:44:48,800 Speaker 3: another Humble plug, the wide Receiver Identifying Breakout Receiver article 976 00:44:49,000 --> 00:44:51,400 Speaker 3: go for checking out on Fantasy Pros. We've averaged at 977 00:44:51,440 --> 00:44:53,680 Speaker 3: least one new wide receiver one from outside the top 978 00:44:53,800 --> 00:44:57,160 Speaker 3: fifty receivers in ADP in each of the last three seasons. 979 00:44:57,280 --> 00:45:00,280 Speaker 3: So as crazy as it seems that a wide receiver 980 00:45:00,400 --> 00:45:03,640 Speaker 3: one top twelve finisher would come this slate outside the 981 00:45:03,680 --> 00:45:07,840 Speaker 3: top fifty, it's actually happening like once per year. So 982 00:45:08,000 --> 00:45:09,680 Speaker 3: you actually have to kind of look and see, well, 983 00:45:09,840 --> 00:45:11,840 Speaker 3: could I paid the case for a player like this 984 00:45:12,320 --> 00:45:14,560 Speaker 3: doing that? And for me, Trey Harris, the reason he 985 00:45:14,680 --> 00:45:18,160 Speaker 3: looks like that potential player is this Mike Daniel offense 986 00:45:18,239 --> 00:45:20,600 Speaker 3: coming into the Los Angeles Chargers were all excited, right, 987 00:45:20,640 --> 00:45:22,400 Speaker 3: That's why these Chargers players are going up and up 988 00:45:22,400 --> 00:45:26,040 Speaker 3: and up in ADP. And look, I don't disagree with 989 00:45:26,080 --> 00:45:28,719 Speaker 3: the order of the receivers being drafted. Goes lad goes 990 00:45:28,800 --> 00:45:33,200 Speaker 3: QJ and then goes Trey Harris. But if you asked Harbaugh, right, hey, 991 00:45:33,680 --> 00:45:35,239 Speaker 3: do you think that these ADPs makes sense for the 992 00:45:35,320 --> 00:45:36,960 Speaker 3: charge receivers? I ben't even say like they should all 993 00:45:36,960 --> 00:45:38,600 Speaker 3: be the same. Like these guys, I love all of 994 00:45:38,640 --> 00:45:40,560 Speaker 3: these guys just like I love all my kids. So 995 00:45:41,040 --> 00:45:42,960 Speaker 3: he would probably look at a little bit differently. And 996 00:45:43,120 --> 00:45:45,080 Speaker 3: I think that that just at least creates the idea 997 00:45:45,120 --> 00:45:48,239 Speaker 3: of some value on Trey Harris as okay, didn't do 998 00:45:48,320 --> 00:45:51,080 Speaker 3: a ton as a rookie, but the offense last year 999 00:45:51,120 --> 00:45:54,400 Speaker 3: for the Chargers at times was broken again justin Herbert 1000 00:45:54,520 --> 00:45:56,680 Speaker 3: was broken, the offensive line was broken. So I don't 1001 00:45:56,680 --> 00:45:58,880 Speaker 3: think Trey Harris really had a chance to showcase a 1002 00:45:58,920 --> 00:46:00,719 Speaker 3: lot of what he did at old men. But he 1003 00:46:00,920 --> 00:46:04,520 Speaker 3: was great coming out of Ole Miss super eliting yards 1004 00:46:04,560 --> 00:46:07,719 Speaker 3: per round run, second round pick. And I do think 1005 00:46:07,719 --> 00:46:10,399 Speaker 3: that he did enough during his rookie year twenty fifth 1006 00:46:10,480 --> 00:46:12,600 Speaker 3: yards after the catch per reception. That's pretty good. We 1007 00:46:12,680 --> 00:46:14,000 Speaker 3: know that he can be a deep threat, that he 1008 00:46:14,040 --> 00:46:16,840 Speaker 3: can take the top off the ball. I think that 1009 00:46:17,320 --> 00:46:19,400 Speaker 3: the way that they talk about him, they really love 1010 00:46:19,480 --> 00:46:21,200 Speaker 3: his run blocking. I think that at least gives him 1011 00:46:21,200 --> 00:46:23,960 Speaker 3: an avenue of snaps in playing time and once he 1012 00:46:24,000 --> 00:46:25,879 Speaker 3: gets on the field, I mean all bets are off 1013 00:46:25,920 --> 00:46:27,279 Speaker 3: because we didn't know this office is going to be 1014 00:46:27,320 --> 00:46:29,960 Speaker 3: in scoring position more often than not. So for me, 1015 00:46:30,120 --> 00:46:32,359 Speaker 3: Trey Harris, I think he's a free bet, a cheap 1016 00:46:32,400 --> 00:46:34,880 Speaker 3: access point to this high powered Chargers offense. I think 1017 00:46:34,920 --> 00:46:36,640 Speaker 3: he'd have more of an expanded role than many of 1018 00:46:36,719 --> 00:46:39,520 Speaker 3: us are thinking and maybe just went injury away from Hey, No, 1019 00:46:39,680 --> 00:46:41,840 Speaker 3: he's our guy in our heavy tight end personnel, like 1020 00:46:41,960 --> 00:46:44,960 Speaker 3: he's our isolate X receiver and that can give him 1021 00:46:44,960 --> 00:46:46,839 Speaker 3: a lot of opportunities. So for me, Trey Harris, where 1022 00:46:46,840 --> 00:46:49,400 Speaker 3: he's going. Yeah, I love him as one of my 1023 00:46:49,400 --> 00:46:52,520 Speaker 3: favorite sleepers this year with a high upside. Yeah. 1024 00:46:52,560 --> 00:46:54,720 Speaker 1: The Chargers offense in general is interesting, going from Gromman 1025 00:46:54,800 --> 00:46:57,439 Speaker 1: to McDaniel, getting Slater and Joe old Back really can't 1026 00:46:57,480 --> 00:46:59,160 Speaker 1: like it's hard to really put numbers on that looking 1027 00:46:59,160 --> 00:47:01,040 Speaker 1: at last year this year. So Scott, what do you 1028 00:47:01,080 --> 00:47:03,920 Speaker 1: think about charges this year and Trey Harris specifically. 1029 00:47:03,880 --> 00:47:05,799 Speaker 4: Here's a number I like, one hundred and twenty two 1030 00:47:05,840 --> 00:47:09,959 Speaker 4: targets gone from Keenan Allen. Right, So there's a lot 1031 00:47:10,080 --> 00:47:13,320 Speaker 4: of a lot more upside here for these past catchers 1032 00:47:13,719 --> 00:47:16,520 Speaker 4: this season with all of those targets from Keenan Allen 1033 00:47:17,120 --> 00:47:20,400 Speaker 4: gone to the wayside. So Trey Harris, you know a 1034 00:47:20,480 --> 00:47:22,799 Speaker 4: lot like I talked about the fit with Carnell Tait 1035 00:47:23,080 --> 00:47:26,600 Speaker 4: and cam Ward when Justin Herbert got a dude like 1036 00:47:26,719 --> 00:47:32,200 Speaker 4: Trey Harris who is a amazing deep threat at Old Miss, 1037 00:47:32,520 --> 00:47:35,520 Speaker 4: like him and Jackson Dart really connected very well at 1038 00:47:35,560 --> 00:47:39,200 Speaker 4: Old Miss. If anybody knows the way that Justin Herbert 1039 00:47:39,280 --> 00:47:42,360 Speaker 4: works with the football with these rainbow passes, this is 1040 00:47:42,480 --> 00:47:45,560 Speaker 4: something that is going to create some amazing highlights. Even 1041 00:47:45,600 --> 00:47:48,200 Speaker 4: if Trey Harris doesn't pan out as we think he does, 1042 00:47:48,480 --> 00:47:51,719 Speaker 4: there's gonna be some highlights in there of some gorgeous 1043 00:47:51,800 --> 00:47:56,759 Speaker 4: deep balls to Drey Harris this season. So a lot there. 1044 00:47:57,440 --> 00:48:01,640 Speaker 4: You know, the pollyanninous of every single player in this offense. 1045 00:48:01,719 --> 00:48:04,320 Speaker 4: You know, Brendan Thompson thinks QJ is gonna light the 1046 00:48:04,360 --> 00:48:08,200 Speaker 4: world on fire. Brendan Thompson is uh, you know, the 1047 00:48:08,360 --> 00:48:11,239 Speaker 4: fastest ever and he's gonna be the next Tyreek Kill 1048 00:48:11,280 --> 00:48:13,960 Speaker 4: and all that stuff. I calm down on that a 1049 00:48:14,000 --> 00:48:16,000 Speaker 4: little bit, but I think the guy who is going 1050 00:48:16,080 --> 00:48:18,640 Speaker 4: to take the biggest step is definitely going to be 1051 00:48:18,719 --> 00:48:21,040 Speaker 4: Trey Harris any way you cut it right? Could he 1052 00:48:21,080 --> 00:48:23,600 Speaker 4: pass QJ? I have no doubt that he could pass 1053 00:48:23,680 --> 00:48:24,840 Speaker 4: QJ in this offense. 1054 00:48:24,880 --> 00:48:26,600 Speaker 2: I mean, that's gonna happen last year. 1055 00:48:30,239 --> 00:48:33,560 Speaker 4: You have all you have QJ. Like these guys have 1056 00:48:33,680 --> 00:48:35,560 Speaker 4: been in this system for a while. The system is 1057 00:48:35,640 --> 00:48:39,320 Speaker 4: new to everybody now, right, So who fits better for 1058 00:48:39,400 --> 00:48:42,320 Speaker 4: Mike McDaniel and who has the better skill set in 1059 00:48:42,440 --> 00:48:45,560 Speaker 4: Trey Harrison QJ. I think we know QJ has done 1060 00:48:45,600 --> 00:48:48,360 Speaker 4: this before and it's looked better, and we know the 1061 00:48:48,480 --> 00:48:51,200 Speaker 4: one flaw in him is catching the football. But I 1062 00:48:51,239 --> 00:48:53,040 Speaker 4: always go back to one of my favorite lines in 1063 00:48:53,080 --> 00:48:55,560 Speaker 4: Apollo thirteen when they're trying to figure out what they 1064 00:48:55,600 --> 00:48:57,680 Speaker 4: can turn on and off when they're using the power 1065 00:48:57,880 --> 00:48:59,879 Speaker 4: and he goes, well, cut the parachute something. He goes, John, 1066 00:49:00,080 --> 00:49:02,560 Speaker 4: the parachutes don't go off. What is the point of 1067 00:49:02,640 --> 00:49:05,120 Speaker 4: all of this? And that is Hugh J. You know, 1068 00:49:05,480 --> 00:49:08,360 Speaker 4: you know drops don't matter until they do, right. I 1069 00:49:08,440 --> 00:49:11,439 Speaker 4: don't care about the occasional drop drops in camp don't matter. 1070 00:49:11,920 --> 00:49:14,480 Speaker 4: When you get yanked off the field because of your drops, 1071 00:49:14,680 --> 00:49:17,040 Speaker 4: that's when it matters. And I think QJ is one 1072 00:49:17,040 --> 00:49:19,040 Speaker 4: of the guys that we all look at and go 1073 00:49:19,920 --> 00:49:21,719 Speaker 4: two or three in a game and then yanking him 1074 00:49:21,760 --> 00:49:23,719 Speaker 4: right out for a guy like Trey Harris, you you 1075 00:49:23,760 --> 00:49:26,800 Speaker 4: know as Tony Romo Tatus. It is a meritocracy. You 1076 00:49:26,960 --> 00:49:29,640 Speaker 4: have the merit staying on the field, so and in 1077 00:49:29,719 --> 00:49:30,359 Speaker 4: the driver's seat. 1078 00:49:31,320 --> 00:49:31,520 Speaker 3: Sure. 1079 00:49:31,640 --> 00:49:33,080 Speaker 1: Well, a couple of notes. I have Thompson in the 1080 00:49:33,120 --> 00:49:35,080 Speaker 1: Dynasty League that I just drafted in, so if if 1081 00:49:35,120 --> 00:49:37,040 Speaker 1: he ends up turning in Tyrey Kill, I'm okay with that. 1082 00:49:37,400 --> 00:49:39,359 Speaker 1: But I'm just curious. What do you guys think about 1083 00:49:39,400 --> 00:49:40,719 Speaker 1: lat What do you guys think about Ladd? I know 1084 00:49:40,800 --> 00:49:42,360 Speaker 1: we didn't come up in this show at all, but 1085 00:49:42,760 --> 00:49:44,160 Speaker 1: with the new offense and how good he was his 1086 00:49:44,239 --> 00:49:46,920 Speaker 1: rookie year to how disappointing he was last year. Obviously 1087 00:49:46,960 --> 00:49:48,359 Speaker 1: Keenan Alan had a lot to do with that, I'm 1088 00:49:48,440 --> 00:49:50,000 Speaker 1: just just around. I'm curiosity. What do you guys think 1089 00:49:50,000 --> 00:49:50,480 Speaker 1: about Ladd? 1090 00:49:51,400 --> 00:49:52,319 Speaker 2: I really like that a lot. 1091 00:49:52,440 --> 00:49:54,720 Speaker 3: I still think that he has an extremely high ceiling. 1092 00:49:54,840 --> 00:49:57,000 Speaker 3: He was someone that I was also considering putting in 1093 00:49:57,280 --> 00:49:59,920 Speaker 3: this show sheet as a player catching his charters off, 1094 00:50:00,320 --> 00:50:02,280 Speaker 3: but just looking out, okay, can I get the cheapest 1095 00:50:02,320 --> 00:50:05,200 Speaker 3: access point would be Trey Harrison. Even Quinn Johnson is 1096 00:50:05,239 --> 00:50:09,799 Speaker 3: obviously cheaper than Lad McConkie that rookie year, I think 1097 00:50:09,920 --> 00:50:12,400 Speaker 3: just if you just remove Keenan Allen, what was the 1098 00:50:12,440 --> 00:50:16,160 Speaker 3: biggest difference between rookie year Laddi McConkie and second year 1099 00:50:16,200 --> 00:50:19,240 Speaker 3: Lad McConkie was Keenan Allen and him having a relationship 1100 00:50:19,280 --> 00:50:22,400 Speaker 3: with Justin Herbert. So I think that really just that 1101 00:50:22,719 --> 00:50:25,800 Speaker 3: really hurt the bullish case last year. And I'm guilty 1102 00:50:25,840 --> 00:50:27,880 Speaker 3: of this as a lot of us were like we 1103 00:50:28,040 --> 00:50:30,040 Speaker 3: just didn't buy into it enough where it was like, oh, 1104 00:50:30,120 --> 00:50:31,960 Speaker 3: they signed keen Allen, Oh he's dust, like he's old, 1105 00:50:32,000 --> 00:50:34,120 Speaker 3: but he had a relationship with Justin Herbert, Like these 1106 00:50:34,120 --> 00:50:36,600 Speaker 3: guys are caught pass and target are target and Keenan 1107 00:50:36,719 --> 00:50:39,319 Speaker 3: led the team in targets last year. So that's really 1108 00:50:39,400 --> 00:50:41,760 Speaker 3: I think hurt Ladd the most, especially when you're operating 1109 00:50:41,840 --> 00:50:44,440 Speaker 3: over the short intermedia the field, especially on third downs. 1110 00:50:44,560 --> 00:50:46,320 Speaker 3: I think Lad's gonna be the third down guy this 1111 00:50:46,480 --> 00:50:49,400 Speaker 3: year and really move the chains, be that inside and 1112 00:50:49,560 --> 00:50:53,400 Speaker 3: outside guy for Justin Herbert and Mike McDaniel has just 1113 00:50:53,440 --> 00:50:57,359 Speaker 3: put guys in position where Tyreek kill Jamon Wattle look 1114 00:50:57,400 --> 00:50:59,400 Speaker 3: at all their yards per rout run. They may not 1115 00:50:59,520 --> 00:51:02,400 Speaker 3: have been hundred percent rough participation players, but when they 1116 00:51:02,440 --> 00:51:04,520 Speaker 3: were on the field, they were very, very efficient, and 1117 00:51:04,600 --> 00:51:06,960 Speaker 3: that's all Lad McConkie has been at the college level 1118 00:51:06,960 --> 00:51:09,160 Speaker 3: and at the NFL level, especially during his rookie year, 1119 00:51:09,280 --> 00:51:11,160 Speaker 3: so I'm also really high on Ladd. I actually was 1120 00:51:11,160 --> 00:51:14,320 Speaker 3: struggling though about Ladd versus Jaalen Wattle and kind. 1121 00:51:14,200 --> 00:51:16,680 Speaker 2: Of moving them in my rankings. I'm like, I like 1122 00:51:16,719 --> 00:51:18,040 Speaker 2: Wat more like ladmore. 1123 00:51:18,160 --> 00:51:20,480 Speaker 3: So I think I moved Wattle one spot ahead of 1124 00:51:21,360 --> 00:51:23,560 Speaker 3: Ladd McConkie, and I don't know if I want to 1125 00:51:23,680 --> 00:51:25,080 Speaker 3: do that in bogs? 1126 00:51:25,160 --> 00:51:28,360 Speaker 2: Are you for me on one side of the other between. 1127 00:51:28,160 --> 00:51:30,719 Speaker 4: One not firmly? I have Ladd at twenty and I 1128 00:51:30,840 --> 00:51:33,520 Speaker 4: have Wattle at twenty one, so I have them next 1129 00:51:33,560 --> 00:51:36,759 Speaker 4: to each other. I have Jay flowers out of both 1130 00:51:36,800 --> 00:51:40,239 Speaker 4: of them. Yes, But I think the nice thing about 1131 00:51:40,280 --> 00:51:43,319 Speaker 4: Mike McDaniel and his offense is that he is going 1132 00:51:43,440 --> 00:51:47,520 Speaker 4: to tailor it to the players. Unlike other offensive coordinators 1133 00:51:47,560 --> 00:51:49,520 Speaker 4: who say I need a guy that fits you know, 1134 00:51:49,600 --> 00:51:52,120 Speaker 4: Brian Dabole, you more need to fit into his system. 1135 00:51:52,280 --> 00:51:55,040 Speaker 4: That's why he goes and he gets familiarity in Wandelle 1136 00:51:55,120 --> 00:51:57,719 Speaker 4: Robinson and drafts. A guy like Carnell tATu has a 1137 00:51:57,760 --> 00:52:00,760 Speaker 4: similar skill set to Malak Neighbors. Right, these are dominant 1138 00:52:00,760 --> 00:52:02,400 Speaker 4: players as well. You have to be dominant in the 1139 00:52:02,480 --> 00:52:05,200 Speaker 4: NFL to make it, but you have to fit his system. 1140 00:52:05,239 --> 00:52:08,359 Speaker 4: I think McDaniel really Tailor's That's why eight Chan has worked. 1141 00:52:08,360 --> 00:52:11,000 Speaker 4: Tyreek Hill's work, Wattle has worked. This guy has made 1142 00:52:11,080 --> 00:52:14,040 Speaker 4: these guys work very well. I'm excited about Hampton, I'm 1143 00:52:14,200 --> 00:52:17,080 Speaker 4: excited about Neighbors. The only guy I'm really not excited 1144 00:52:17,120 --> 00:52:19,960 Speaker 4: about in this offense is Aronde Gadsden because he did 1145 00:52:20,719 --> 00:52:23,080 Speaker 4: like a quarter of his production in two games. So 1146 00:52:23,480 --> 00:52:25,560 Speaker 4: that is the only guy that I don't see. The 1147 00:52:25,680 --> 00:52:26,839 Speaker 4: absolute ceiling. 1148 00:52:26,600 --> 00:52:30,040 Speaker 3: For finding Finding the right players for the Chargers is 1149 00:52:30,120 --> 00:52:32,560 Speaker 3: going to be really key because when you look at 1150 00:52:32,719 --> 00:52:35,520 Speaker 3: their they play the Arizona Cardinals week one, right, so 1151 00:52:35,880 --> 00:52:37,759 Speaker 3: this is like a scenario where they come out and 1152 00:52:37,880 --> 00:52:38,960 Speaker 3: put a forty. 1153 00:52:38,680 --> 00:52:41,200 Speaker 4: Burger on trade everybody after Week one. 1154 00:52:41,760 --> 00:52:45,000 Speaker 3: Look, we saw Mike McDaniel, how long ago was it 1155 00:52:45,360 --> 00:52:49,520 Speaker 3: put up seventy points on opposing on the broncos if 1156 00:52:50,640 --> 00:52:52,880 Speaker 3: he smells blood in the water man, Look, this guy 1157 00:52:52,920 --> 00:52:54,120 Speaker 3: wants to be a head coach, and how do you 1158 00:52:54,120 --> 00:52:55,680 Speaker 3: get noticed? You put up a ton of points against 1159 00:52:55,719 --> 00:52:59,279 Speaker 3: bad teams, Like I'm just saying, man, So that's why 1160 00:52:59,400 --> 00:53:01,279 Speaker 3: Chargers you got in on him to start the year 1161 00:53:01,760 --> 00:53:02,480 Speaker 3: to some extent. 1162 00:53:02,800 --> 00:53:04,520 Speaker 2: Don't leave a draft without a Charger. 1163 00:53:05,239 --> 00:53:08,640 Speaker 1: Make it Keaton Mitchell season got it all right. Last 1164 00:53:08,680 --> 00:53:10,800 Speaker 1: receiver that we have for the day, Scott, what do 1165 00:53:10,840 --> 00:53:11,400 Speaker 1: you got for us? 1166 00:53:11,600 --> 00:53:14,719 Speaker 4: I'm gonna say Antonio Williams here, And look, this might 1167 00:53:14,800 --> 00:53:17,000 Speaker 4: be short lived. You know, I know that all the 1168 00:53:17,080 --> 00:53:19,480 Speaker 4: rumors are Stephan Diggs is gonna sign with Washington, but 1169 00:53:19,560 --> 00:53:22,440 Speaker 4: he hasn't yet. They're not signing Brandon Ayuk. I know 1170 00:53:22,560 --> 00:53:28,279 Speaker 4: that all autograph things in Northern Virginia aside, they have 1171 00:53:28,400 --> 00:53:31,359 Speaker 4: not signed him. He's already insulted their quarterback. I don't 1172 00:53:31,360 --> 00:53:33,239 Speaker 4: think that's going to happen. Wouldn't be a good locker 1173 00:53:33,320 --> 00:53:36,399 Speaker 4: room move for the Commanders. But Stefan Diggs is still 1174 00:53:36,400 --> 00:53:39,319 Speaker 4: in here. But right now, it's Antonio Williams as far 1175 00:53:39,400 --> 00:53:42,719 Speaker 4: as I'm concerned. Right he was a massive prospect for 1176 00:53:42,800 --> 00:53:46,200 Speaker 4: Clemson and they had the big collapse in twenty twenty five. 1177 00:53:46,440 --> 00:53:49,040 Speaker 4: He missed three games and still led the Tigers in 1178 00:53:49,160 --> 00:53:52,279 Speaker 4: receptions last year. He increased his yards per route run 1179 00:53:52,360 --> 00:53:54,840 Speaker 4: to a career high two two seven. Last season, he 1180 00:53:54,960 --> 00:53:58,080 Speaker 4: had the highest yak perception since his freshman season and 1181 00:53:58,360 --> 00:54:00,880 Speaker 4: cut his drop rate from nine point six percent to 1182 00:54:01,000 --> 00:54:04,160 Speaker 4: one point eight percent as a senior. So he's a 1183 00:54:04,200 --> 00:54:07,759 Speaker 4: true dart throw because the Commanders can Yeah, it's not 1184 00:54:07,880 --> 00:54:10,400 Speaker 4: just digs. They can sign any veteran. I feel like 1185 00:54:10,840 --> 00:54:13,000 Speaker 4: to come in here and play this second role. Keenan 1186 00:54:13,040 --> 00:54:15,719 Speaker 4: Allen still free agent as well, right so there are 1187 00:54:15,920 --> 00:54:19,200 Speaker 4: options for them to sign somebody, But I don't know. 1188 00:54:19,280 --> 00:54:21,160 Speaker 4: He's looked good in camp. He's been the buzz of 1189 00:54:21,280 --> 00:54:24,000 Speaker 4: camp so far. As Zack Selby said, who writes for 1190 00:54:24,080 --> 00:54:27,160 Speaker 4: the Commander's website, said that it won't be long until 1191 00:54:27,200 --> 00:54:29,200 Speaker 4: he's a focus of the offense if he continues to 1192 00:54:29,239 --> 00:54:31,640 Speaker 4: play this way like he has early in camp. A 1193 00:54:31,719 --> 00:54:35,400 Speaker 4: lot of the Commander's blogs are praising him as the 1194 00:54:35,800 --> 00:54:38,840 Speaker 4: number two right now, and his competition is Luke McCaffrey, 1195 00:54:38,880 --> 00:54:41,560 Speaker 4: Treylon Burke, Jalen Lane, and Van Jefferson. There's just not 1196 00:54:41,800 --> 00:54:45,000 Speaker 4: a lot blocking him from being the number two target. 1197 00:54:45,239 --> 00:54:48,160 Speaker 4: It could be Chigakonquo, it could be Rashad White if 1198 00:54:48,200 --> 00:54:51,080 Speaker 4: they don't sign a veteran. But I think Antonio Williams 1199 00:54:51,160 --> 00:54:54,520 Speaker 4: as a gamble as your last pick, throw that dart 1200 00:54:54,520 --> 00:54:57,200 Speaker 4: and see if it works out, especially if they haven't 1201 00:54:57,239 --> 00:55:00,520 Speaker 4: signed Digs when your draft goes out, or signed Keenan 1202 00:55:00,560 --> 00:55:03,720 Speaker 4: Allen or another veteran. I think right now he's probably 1203 00:55:03,760 --> 00:55:06,120 Speaker 4: sitting in the leader of the clubhouse as that number 1204 00:55:06,160 --> 00:55:07,880 Speaker 4: two in the pecking order in the past game, and 1205 00:55:08,480 --> 00:55:10,560 Speaker 4: you know, with Jade Daniels, that could be a very 1206 00:55:10,640 --> 00:55:11,120 Speaker 4: nice role. 1207 00:55:12,960 --> 00:55:14,840 Speaker 1: Yeah, outside of Scary Terry, it's just a bunch of 1208 00:55:14,920 --> 00:55:16,600 Speaker 1: question marks, and one of those guys are probably popped 1209 00:55:17,280 --> 00:55:19,440 Speaker 1: ericson do you think it'll be uh Antni Williams, You 1210 00:55:19,560 --> 00:55:21,600 Speaker 1: like Chig we got we think about the commanders. 1211 00:55:22,040 --> 00:55:24,439 Speaker 3: I do have genuine interest in both of those guys, 1212 00:55:24,520 --> 00:55:26,960 Speaker 3: especially where Chid goes in drafts. He's starting to fall 1213 00:55:26,960 --> 00:55:29,640 Speaker 3: a little because of the allrea of Stefan Diggs signing there. 1214 00:55:29,719 --> 00:55:31,759 Speaker 3: But Antonio Williams I really liked coming out as a 1215 00:55:31,800 --> 00:55:34,200 Speaker 3: prospect out of Clemson. I think if they do profiles 1216 00:55:34,200 --> 00:55:36,239 Speaker 3: and project really well to operate from the slot and 1217 00:55:36,760 --> 00:55:38,960 Speaker 3: kind of curious, you know, asked this question both of 1218 00:55:38,960 --> 00:55:41,720 Speaker 3: you guys, if you think that they signed Stefan Diggs, 1219 00:55:42,080 --> 00:55:44,360 Speaker 3: does that mean Antonio Williams is buried as like the 1220 00:55:44,440 --> 00:55:47,520 Speaker 3: teams slot receiver. I get that Digs can play inside 1221 00:55:47,520 --> 00:55:49,680 Speaker 3: an ounceide, but you look at the roster, it's like McCaffrey, 1222 00:55:50,080 --> 00:55:53,120 Speaker 3: isn't he slock Eye, Jalen Lane slock Gye. So it's like, 1223 00:55:53,360 --> 00:55:55,040 Speaker 3: would it make more sense for Diggs to be playing 1224 00:55:55,080 --> 00:55:57,839 Speaker 3: on the outside while they have these younger players that, Okay, 1225 00:55:57,960 --> 00:55:59,839 Speaker 3: all we're asking you do is play the slot, make 1226 00:55:59,880 --> 00:56:01,840 Speaker 3: it more simple for you. Whereas Diggs, you're gonna be 1227 00:56:01,840 --> 00:56:05,359 Speaker 3: opposite of Terry who also is an older receiver. He's 1228 00:56:05,440 --> 00:56:07,719 Speaker 3: not he's over the age of thirty, and he's also 1229 00:56:07,760 --> 00:56:11,120 Speaker 3: coming off an injury plague season. Where is he going 1230 00:56:11,200 --> 00:56:14,800 Speaker 3: to play all seventeen games? That's another concern. So I 1231 00:56:14,880 --> 00:56:17,759 Speaker 3: get that there's a more pessimism around Williams right now 1232 00:56:17,800 --> 00:56:19,759 Speaker 3: because they're looking to bring in somebody, But the fact 1233 00:56:19,760 --> 00:56:22,399 Speaker 3: that they're still like waiting, it's like, hey, we want 1234 00:56:22,400 --> 00:56:24,600 Speaker 3: to see what we got with this kid. And I 1235 00:56:24,680 --> 00:56:26,359 Speaker 3: think that the longer that it takes them to actually 1236 00:56:26,440 --> 00:56:29,759 Speaker 3: to find to sign Stefan Diggs is actually more of 1237 00:56:29,840 --> 00:56:33,560 Speaker 3: a bullish case for Antonio and Williams. So Bog's slot usage, 1238 00:56:33,600 --> 00:56:34,480 Speaker 3: any any thoughts on that? 1239 00:56:34,719 --> 00:56:38,080 Speaker 4: Yeah, So I think, to me, when everybody's healthy, right, 1240 00:56:38,160 --> 00:56:41,040 Speaker 4: if they signed Digs, the problem isn't necessarily being on 1241 00:56:41,160 --> 00:56:42,920 Speaker 4: the field, it's where you are in the pecking order, 1242 00:56:43,120 --> 00:56:47,759 Speaker 4: because I think that Chig is probably three regardless, right. 1243 00:56:48,040 --> 00:56:50,680 Speaker 4: I think if it's no Digs and it's Antonio Williams, 1244 00:56:50,719 --> 00:56:53,440 Speaker 4: I think Chig is three. If it's Stefan Diggs, I 1245 00:56:53,520 --> 00:56:55,879 Speaker 4: still think Chick is three, which makes Antonio Williams four 1246 00:56:56,040 --> 00:56:59,840 Speaker 4: or five because you don't sign Rashad White to not 1247 00:57:00,040 --> 00:57:02,560 Speaker 4: throw the ball to him, right, that is his skill set. 1248 00:57:02,640 --> 00:57:04,720 Speaker 4: He's one of the best pass catching backs in the NFL, 1249 00:57:05,040 --> 00:57:07,920 Speaker 4: So I think he's probably four regardless as well. So 1250 00:57:08,040 --> 00:57:10,720 Speaker 4: it's kind of like it's boom or busts on Antonio Williams. 1251 00:57:10,760 --> 00:57:12,279 Speaker 4: Are you gonna be number two in the pecking order? 1252 00:57:12,400 --> 00:57:15,680 Speaker 4: Number five in the pecking order? But as you mentioned, 1253 00:57:15,920 --> 00:57:18,400 Speaker 4: the longer it takes to sign Diggs, the more offseason 1254 00:57:18,440 --> 00:57:22,240 Speaker 4: stuff that he's dealing with and injuries can happen in camp, 1255 00:57:22,600 --> 00:57:25,560 Speaker 4: making other teams, you know, go into this pile of 1256 00:57:25,960 --> 00:57:27,920 Speaker 4: their money and and all this. I don't know why 1257 00:57:27,960 --> 00:57:29,640 Speaker 4: did the Niners not sign Stefan Diggs? 1258 00:57:29,680 --> 00:57:32,240 Speaker 2: Why why don't the Raiders sign Steffan d Why don't. 1259 00:57:32,080 --> 00:57:34,200 Speaker 4: The Raiders sign Steffan Digg? Right now? 1260 00:57:34,320 --> 00:57:37,040 Speaker 3: Stefon Diggs played two years with Kirk Cousins and apparently 1261 00:57:37,040 --> 00:57:38,000 Speaker 3: he's gonna start all year. 1262 00:57:38,360 --> 00:57:39,720 Speaker 2: Yeah, they've been telling me. 1263 00:57:39,880 --> 00:57:43,040 Speaker 4: So what are we doing? Yeah? Why is he still 1264 00:57:43,080 --> 00:57:46,160 Speaker 4: out there? Washington is not the only answer here. So 1265 00:57:46,720 --> 00:57:48,800 Speaker 4: whether it's Alan or Diggs or somebody, if they signed someone, 1266 00:57:48,880 --> 00:57:52,320 Speaker 4: I think it does hurt Antonio from going two to five. 1267 00:57:52,520 --> 00:57:55,280 Speaker 4: But like you said, if anything happens to one of 1268 00:57:55,320 --> 00:57:56,960 Speaker 4: those guys in front of him, I think you jump 1269 00:57:57,120 --> 00:58:00,240 Speaker 4: the front of the line, passed Chig and Rashad White again, 1270 00:58:00,360 --> 00:58:03,680 Speaker 4: and now you're number two. So I think grab and 1271 00:58:03,720 --> 00:58:07,560 Speaker 4: stash specifically with you know, leagues with deeper benches is 1272 00:58:07,600 --> 00:58:10,680 Speaker 4: a great scenario to roster Antonio Williams and he's almost free. 1273 00:58:12,120 --> 00:58:13,800 Speaker 1: Yeah, July thirty first, none of those guys are on 1274 00:58:13,840 --> 00:58:16,000 Speaker 1: the commanders. If you're drafting, you know, August thirty first, 1275 00:58:16,080 --> 00:58:17,720 Speaker 1: might be it might be a different answer. Yeah, yeah, 1276 00:58:18,720 --> 00:58:21,800 Speaker 1: well cool, All right, Well, gentlemen, that was fun. I 1277 00:58:22,200 --> 00:58:25,120 Speaker 1: appreciate you for joining me here. Before we get out 1278 00:58:25,160 --> 00:58:26,680 Speaker 1: of here, I want to talk to you guys about 1279 00:58:26,720 --> 00:58:28,840 Speaker 1: hard rock. So today's show is brought to you by 1280 00:58:28,920 --> 00:58:31,600 Speaker 1: our presenting sponsor, hard Rock Sportsbook. You know a lot 1281 00:58:31,600 --> 00:58:33,640 Speaker 1: of sports fans dread the summer, but on hard rock, 1282 00:58:33,680 --> 00:58:35,680 Speaker 1: the good news is it's almost time for football season. 1283 00:58:35,760 --> 00:58:39,120 Speaker 1: Football Season's almost back. 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If you were 1316 01:00:11,320 --> 01:00:13,400 Speaker 5: someone you know has a gambling problem and wants to help, 1317 01:00:13,600 --> 01:00:16,520 Speaker 5: call one eight hundred and nine with it in Arizona, 1318 01:00:16,600 --> 01:00:20,560 Speaker 5: Ohio and Virginia, called one eight hundred my reset gambling problem. 1319 01:00:20,640 --> 01:00:24,200 Speaker 5: Called one eight hundred gambler in Colorado, Illinois, Michigan, New Jersey, 1320 01:00:24,280 --> 01:00:24,840 Speaker 5: and Tennessee. 1321 01:00:25,520 --> 01:00:27,840 Speaker 1: And that's all we got. So again, gentlemen, I appreciate 1322 01:00:27,880 --> 01:00:28,440 Speaker 1: you for joining me. 1323 01:00:28,520 --> 01:00:29,000 Speaker 3: This was fun. 1324 01:00:29,360 --> 01:00:32,360 Speaker 1: These were wide receivers with massive upside. Make sure to 1325 01:00:32,480 --> 01:00:34,640 Speaker 1: like the video, comment, subscribe all that good stuff. And 1326 01:00:34,720 --> 01:00:36,520 Speaker 1: you guys have any partying things you want to plug, 1327 01:00:36,560 --> 01:00:38,640 Speaker 1: any parting thoughts anything like that before we get out of. 1328 01:00:38,640 --> 01:00:40,840 Speaker 2: Here, Bogs. You want to start us off. 1329 01:00:41,720 --> 01:00:44,920 Speaker 4: Yeah, even though I like say Flowers for fantasy, I'm 1330 01:00:44,960 --> 01:00:46,720 Speaker 4: still a Steelers fan and hate them. So there you go. 1331 01:00:47,840 --> 01:00:48,640 Speaker 2: That just stared. 1332 01:00:48,760 --> 01:00:51,120 Speaker 3: He's gonna have at least two nuclear games against the 1333 01:00:51,120 --> 01:00:52,000 Speaker 3: Pittsburgh Steelers. 1334 01:00:52,280 --> 01:00:54,800 Speaker 4: Almost be a single handedly to go to the playoffs. 1335 01:00:54,960 --> 01:00:59,880 Speaker 3: So to quote Max Crosby, Las Vegas Raiders, Ed Rusher 1336 01:00:59,920 --> 01:01:02,360 Speaker 3: and almost a Flowers teammate, very very close to being 1337 01:01:02,480 --> 01:01:05,640 Speaker 3: day Flowers teammate for a couple of days they thought 1338 01:01:05,680 --> 01:01:07,520 Speaker 3: it was gonna happen. They were like ready for the 1339 01:01:07,520 --> 01:01:09,560 Speaker 3: Stepbrothers pictures. They were all good to go. It was 1340 01:01:09,560 --> 01:01:12,200 Speaker 3: gonna be a great time. But to quote Max Crosby, 1341 01:01:12,480 --> 01:01:15,160 Speaker 3: what he said on the NFL Top one hundred twenty 1342 01:01:15,200 --> 01:01:18,920 Speaker 3: twenty six is Whennesday gets his flowers very plenty. 1343 01:01:19,000 --> 01:01:20,400 Speaker 1: I love it all right, guys, thank. 1344 01:01:20,280 --> 01:01:23,920 Speaker 5: You, thanks for listening to the Fantasy Pros Fantasy Football podcast. 1345 01:01:24,120 --> 01:01:26,640 Speaker 5: If you love the show, the best freeway to support 1346 01:01:26,720 --> 01:01:29,720 Speaker 5: us is by leaving a positive review on Apple podcasts 1347 01:01:29,880 --> 01:01:33,800 Speaker 5: at Fantasypros dot com, slash review, or on Spotify. Follow 1348 01:01:33,920 --> 01:01:37,320 Speaker 5: us on x, Instagram and TikTok at Fantasy Pros, and 1349 01:01:37,360 --> 01:01:40,080 Speaker 5: subscribe to our YouTube channel at YouTube dot com slash 1350 01:01:40,120 --> 01:01:40,840 Speaker 5: Fantasy Pros