WEBVTT - EYL #81 Prison, INC. feat. Mysonne

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<v Speaker 2>All right, Gods, welcome back another episode. E y L

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah virtually virtual edition. So today's a special episode because

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<v Speaker 2>you know the good thing we're having a business podcast.

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<v Speaker 2>It allows you to cover almost everything. Everything is a

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<v Speaker 2>business level of money and finances. Like Wu Tang said,

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<v Speaker 2>casualles everything as a fact. So, you know, we wanted

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<v Speaker 2>to do this this episode for a while as far

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<v Speaker 2>as cover the prison system and cover the state of

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<v Speaker 2>you know, criminal justice reform and mastercarceration from a financial standpoint, because.

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<v Speaker 3>It's it's a business, it's.

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<v Speaker 2>A billion dollars billion, and you know, we wanted to

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<v Speaker 2>just make sure that, you know, we ate had enough information.

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<v Speaker 2>And then we wanted to bring somebody on with a

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<v Speaker 2>with a real life experience.

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<v Speaker 4>Author experience.

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<v Speaker 2>So it was like just perfect because not only does

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<v Speaker 2>our guests have a real life experience, but he's on

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<v Speaker 2>the front lines as far as being a social activist

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<v Speaker 2>for years. And not only that, one of the best

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<v Speaker 2>them sees ever ball football.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean I remember from the Violated days man, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>I remember I had the post wall Man album.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, so if you're not familiar my song, my song

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<v Speaker 2>is our guest today and yeah, my song is is

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<v Speaker 2>dope from a musical standpoint, huge following on social media

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<v Speaker 2>and on flex arguably one of the best flex freestyles ever.

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<v Speaker 4>I think you got like five of the top ten joints.

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<v Speaker 2>That's a fact. So so yeah, it's crazy. Wallow just

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<v Speaker 2>posted it yesterday. Shout out to Wildstow brother. So yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>one of the best flex funk flex freestyles ever, but

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<v Speaker 2>bigger than that. Just like I said, social activists be

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<v Speaker 2>on the front lines really doing this thing and making

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<v Speaker 2>a difference in the community. So first and foremost, before

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<v Speaker 2>we get started, thank you, thank you for joining us, appreciate.

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<v Speaker 5>It, thank you for having me. Thank you.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I still remember the first line the first time

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<v Speaker 3>I ever heard you my song Lefty, That's still one

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<v Speaker 3>of the hardest intros to a rap song I've ever

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<v Speaker 3>left rifle.

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<v Speaker 2>That was different. That was different. So yeah, So Mice,

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<v Speaker 2>I want to tell people the backstoor they might not know.

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<v Speaker 2>They might have just seen your freestyles, or they might

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<v Speaker 2>have seen you, you know, doing the social activist thing, but

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<v Speaker 2>they might not have known your story of you know,

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<v Speaker 2>where you got to this point.

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<v Speaker 6>And for us, we grew up.

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<v Speaker 2>In the nineties, grew up in the early two thousands,

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<v Speaker 2>and were huge fans of music. So when me and Troy,

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<v Speaker 2>like when we first started ahead about your name, it

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<v Speaker 2>was on the underground circuit and then that that Rough

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<v Speaker 2>Riders Rough Fires was so hot. It's kind of hard

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<v Speaker 2>for me to explain to people that's younger, like Rough

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<v Speaker 2>Riders was it they had. It was bigger than music though,

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<v Speaker 2>because they had the whole motorcycle movement and they had

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<v Speaker 2>the merch, they had the T shirts and it was

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<v Speaker 2>like they was huge. Like it's kind of hard for

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<v Speaker 2>me to make a comparison to any not one right now. No,

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<v Speaker 2>they was like three hundred, five hundred deep with motorcycles

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<v Speaker 2>like all over the country.

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<v Speaker 4>Shut.

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<v Speaker 7>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>So so when they put out their compilation, you had

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<v Speaker 2>that legendary verse and then your name was just buzzing

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<v Speaker 2>all over and believe you signed with Violator. But then

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<v Speaker 2>you know, you was incarcerated for seven years came out.

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<v Speaker 2>So can you talk about that as far as your

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<v Speaker 2>journey from being a musician to being incarcerated and then

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<v Speaker 2>coming home.

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<v Speaker 6>And I'm not.

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<v Speaker 2>Sure if you if you first started your activism, uh

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<v Speaker 2>when you first came home, or if it took a

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<v Speaker 2>while for that or like was that actually started while

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<v Speaker 2>you were incarcerated. And you know what's crazy funny story

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<v Speaker 2>because I got like a photographic memory. I memorized everything.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't even know if you remember this. I think

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<v Speaker 2>like the first week you was home, because it was

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<v Speaker 2>like a big thing when you came home too. And

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<v Speaker 2>the first week you just came home. We saw at

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<v Speaker 2>two Fish, one Fish.

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<v Speaker 5>Oh yeah, yeah.

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<v Speaker 6>It was out.

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<v Speaker 2>We was out, We was out with some of our

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<v Speaker 2>friends and he was like, Yo, that's my song right there.

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<v Speaker 2>Just came home, Like he literally just came home. That's crazy.

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<v Speaker 2>I just remember that. So, yeah, can you talk about

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<v Speaker 2>that as far as your journey from music to being

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<v Speaker 2>incarcerated and then you know, doing what you're doing now.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, so it's gonna be a long story, So let's

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<v Speaker 5>sit back for it.

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<v Speaker 4>We're ready, ready, But.

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<v Speaker 7>Yeah, yeah, I got signed. I mean, I started in

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<v Speaker 7>the industry in about ninety eight. My then manager, Tone

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<v Speaker 7>was he was he was He managed Mace and I

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<v Speaker 7>had a group back in the days. We called ourselves

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<v Speaker 7>to Cartel and it was three. It was three of us.

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<v Speaker 7>It was me and my friend Steve and my friend

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<v Speaker 7>Camp and we kind of sound like the Locks though,

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<v Speaker 7>you know, we had that whole Locks feel because that

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<v Speaker 7>was that was the thing that, yeah, the Bronx, So

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<v Speaker 7>we had that feel and we sounded different, but we

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<v Speaker 7>sound it was similar because it was street and it

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<v Speaker 7>was three of us, so you know, we were trying

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<v Speaker 7>to get a deal, and a lot of people was

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<v Speaker 7>like that we was dope. We actually did. We had

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<v Speaker 7>an interview. That's what super Mario was it.

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<v Speaker 5>Bad Boy. We bought.

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<v Speaker 7>He brought us to his office and he was like,

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<v Speaker 7>y'all sound a lot like the locks. Y'all need to

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<v Speaker 7>try to try to look more like daylight soul.

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<v Speaker 5>Or something.

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<v Speaker 4>Two different spectrum, looking.

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<v Speaker 7>For more of you know whatever. Anyway, so then we

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<v Speaker 7>met up with my manager. He had met them first

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<v Speaker 7>in the barber shop in the Bronx and.

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<v Speaker 5>He was from.

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<v Speaker 7>Queen's and he happened to be there with one of

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<v Speaker 7>his friends that owned the barber shop.

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<v Speaker 5>I heard my boy's rhyming.

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<v Speaker 7>And then he was interested in them because he was

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<v Speaker 7>I guess he had just finished manager man. He was

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<v Speaker 7>still doing some things in and out of the industry,

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<v Speaker 7>but he had just he was managing made for a

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<v Speaker 7>little while and was still looking, you know, to move

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<v Speaker 7>around the industry. He had a lot of connections, so

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<v Speaker 7>he wanted to meet with them and he's like yo,

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<v Speaker 7>He's like yo you and they was like yo, if

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<v Speaker 7>you think we doe, you got to hear our other part.

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<v Speaker 5>And by that time I had kind of got a

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<v Speaker 5>little jaded with the industry. We had like three different

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<v Speaker 5>and you know too.

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<v Speaker 7>A Marrow had told us to sound like daylight soul,

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<v Speaker 7>and it was just like, man, I'm in the street.

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<v Speaker 5>I ain't even worried about that. So they like, you

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<v Speaker 5>always going to meet with this dude.

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<v Speaker 7>I'm not doing that, you know what I'm saying for what,

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<v Speaker 7>I'm tired to keep hearing the same old shit. So

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<v Speaker 7>I let him talk me into a dude pulls up.

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<v Speaker 5>That's the ninety eight.

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<v Speaker 7>He pulls up in front of my building with a navigator, black,

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<v Speaker 7>brand new navigator, so nobody ain't have no no navigating

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<v Speaker 7>in ninety eight. He got me somebody, he know, he

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<v Speaker 7>doing something. They posed in front of my building getting

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<v Speaker 7>a car. He like, I'm just quiet because I'm always

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<v Speaker 7>the one that never pays, you know, never believes nothing.

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<v Speaker 7>I'm always skeptical with everybody. So I'm sitting in back.

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<v Speaker 7>They talking to me quiet. He looking at me like,

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<v Speaker 7>what's what's your name. I'm like, my name is my son.

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<v Speaker 7>And then he's just like you all right, I'm good.

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<v Speaker 7>I'm just I don't know you.

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<v Speaker 5>You know, I'm just kid.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm eighteen years old.

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<v Speaker 7>And my man say, I feel all right, but I

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<v Speaker 7>still just don't know. You don't know if there's some

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<v Speaker 7>game you wasting our time whatever. So he throws on

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<v Speaker 7>beats and they spit. So then he like, so do

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<v Speaker 7>you Rhy'm like yeah, Ron, He's like, so what they

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<v Speaker 7>I'm like because you know, I'm not in the more

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<v Speaker 7>right now. So he laughs, he's laughing, like all right,

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<v Speaker 7>I get it. So then he happens to play a

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<v Speaker 7>beat that I fuck with, so I spit. So he

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<v Speaker 7>just looked at me, so all right, and we drove.

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<v Speaker 7>We drove straight to.

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<v Speaker 5>First person.

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<v Speaker 7>We drove to I think we drove. That's what free.

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<v Speaker 7>If you're back in the industry, that's what I'm free.

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<v Speaker 7>Leskin brother he had afro light Eus. He used to

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<v Speaker 7>run Jermaine Duprieze organization. So he took me the Freeze

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<v Speaker 7>office in the city. We went straight in the building,

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<v Speaker 7>boom upstairs. We're sitting in there. So he's like, yo, Rob,

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<v Speaker 7>so we spitting the nigga like yo, he dope. He

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<v Speaker 7>takes me to that's what uptown. Baby came out and

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<v Speaker 7>Tracy Waybles was the man he was managed. They was

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<v Speaker 7>managing Lord Trekan Peters.

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<v Speaker 5>So I mean there, but they're like, oh, let's take

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<v Speaker 5>the fight.

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<v Speaker 7>So by the end of the day we had went

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<v Speaker 7>to four different record latives. He just got us inside

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<v Speaker 7>like and they was all like, nah, he's doing his dough,

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<v Speaker 7>but we like him more, you know what I'm saying.

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<v Speaker 5>So he was that's what he's like. Yo.

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<v Speaker 7>We everybody listened, but most of the people liked you.

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<v Speaker 7>So you know, that's when I started believing him. He

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<v Speaker 7>ain't really just no dude, that's bullshit and that's coming,

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<v Speaker 7>you know, trying to play no games.

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<v Speaker 5>And from there I had I went to we had.

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<v Speaker 5>What happened was I had a big battle.

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<v Speaker 6>With Sean in front of Justice.

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<v Speaker 3>Justine heard about that.

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<v Speaker 5>That was that was like.

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<v Speaker 7>But prior to that, I had went to UN's office.

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<v Speaker 7>Who was that's when entertainment you know Cam Cam, the

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<v Speaker 7>cam there, Charlie Baltimore and who I think it was

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<v Speaker 7>just Cam and Charlie. So I walked into under office

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<v Speaker 7>and just start rhyming, almost we signing him, don't don't

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<v Speaker 7>let nobody else him. I did a song that day

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<v Speaker 7>in the studio. Digga, who is producing most of Cam tracks,

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<v Speaker 7>was in the studio with me. We did this song

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<v Speaker 7>that was so five that it was probably like it's

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<v Speaker 7>still like one of my favorite songs. It never came

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<v Speaker 7>out nothing. We played this song. She was fired so

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<v Speaker 7>that I was supposed to get signed to them before.

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<v Speaker 7>So he's like, ya, don't let nobody else him. I

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<v Speaker 7>was like, y, don't let nobody else him. We're gonna

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<v Speaker 7>sign him. Now, that's what Sean had just got signed

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<v Speaker 7>a bad boy. So but nobody knew that I had

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<v Speaker 7>this case that I was. I had a case from

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<v Speaker 7>ninety seven, so I'm still fighting this case. So we're

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<v Speaker 7>supposed to do the deal. For a couple of weeks.

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<v Speaker 7>Underfinds out I have the case. You know, I told like,

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<v Speaker 7>y'all got this case. So now he backs out to

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<v Speaker 7>deal like, oh, he got a case I don't really

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<v Speaker 7>want to do. I don't know, I don't know. So man,

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<v Speaker 7>we're back on it on the shipping. But nobody else

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<v Speaker 7>knows about the case with us whatever. So we go

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<v Speaker 7>to Justice and were fast forward to Justice and Nori and.

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<v Speaker 5>Sean is outside just Romen.

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<v Speaker 2>Randomly, randomly, they just to be on Tuesday nights with

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<v Speaker 2>industry nights, so randomly you'll pull up the Justice and

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<v Speaker 2>Niggas the South.

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<v Speaker 4>Side rom ninety eight. That that that was. That was

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<v Speaker 4>the time. That was the NI album, That's what.

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<v Speaker 5>And I remember when he when he first.

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<v Speaker 4>Played super Dog super Dog No No.

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<v Speaker 5>Not super Dog the show we.

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<v Speaker 6>Had pun King TV TV.

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<v Speaker 7>He pulled up there and played that song and I

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<v Speaker 7>was like, yo, let me just get on.

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<v Speaker 4>This please, Oh my gosh, this like.

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<v Speaker 5>How did this happen? Anyway? So we outside did they freestyling?

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<v Speaker 7>My lawyer at the time, Matt Middleton, was listening to

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<v Speaker 7>the he listening to the Ryan's like, yo, he comes inside.

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<v Speaker 5>We inside justine eating he come like yo, the outside

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<v Speaker 5>rhym and shining.

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<v Speaker 7>Numbers out there. And I know, Seana the dude, I

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<v Speaker 7>just got the million dollar deal. You know, I got

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<v Speaker 7>a hundred ROMs in the clip. I'm already mad. You

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<v Speaker 7>know what I'm saying. I got a chip on my shoulder,

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<v Speaker 7>like I'm dead than this nigga.

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<v Speaker 5>He's fake biggie.

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<v Speaker 7>You know.

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<v Speaker 6>That was the thing.

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<v Speaker 3>That was the thing at that time. I was like,

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<v Speaker 3>how y'all gonna start to doing so like that.

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<v Speaker 7>Side the nigga whatever. So I'm alright, I go outside.

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<v Speaker 7>So my man, my Man's.

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<v Speaker 5>Like ahead go ahead.

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<v Speaker 7>And then and then Norman was like, yo, you want

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<v Speaker 7>to spit because Normany had never heard me. Rob to

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<v Speaker 7>this time like he ain't never heard me. So I'm

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<v Speaker 7>all right, I'll throw something in there. Ron Norman listened

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<v Speaker 7>to me like, oh, this is fire the Sean Ron.

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<v Speaker 7>He's okay, let.

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<v Speaker 5>Me get out of this. He backs up. I go again. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 5>proud Clue is there. It's everybody's coming.

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<v Speaker 7>It's we got one of the biggest circles in the park,

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<v Speaker 7>a lot of justice that probably ever happened.

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<v Speaker 5>So we going. It was to the point where I noo.

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<v Speaker 5>It was like enough enough enough.

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<v Speaker 7>Man, you you got to slow down, killer, you're trying

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<v Speaker 7>to kill this man.

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<v Speaker 5>So it went back.

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<v Speaker 7>It got back to puff that y'all he ate your artists,

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<v Speaker 7>and yo, he killed Shine in front of the things.

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<v Speaker 7>So I had this big bidding war. You know what

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<v Speaker 7>I'm saying. We had a bidding war. Jamaine Dupre flew

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<v Speaker 7>me up to his house. I sat down with pretty

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<v Speaker 7>much every label from there. Chris Lighty was like, Yo,

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<v Speaker 7>what we're gonna do. Chriss from the Pronx inst in peace.

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<v Speaker 7>And I had this big bidding war and ended up

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<v Speaker 7>going with Chris lighting Man and me and Sean became

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<v Speaker 7>best friends after that, like because people was trying to

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<v Speaker 7>peg us against each other, you know, and all he

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<v Speaker 7>killed you Puff Puff was mad, like, Yo, I want

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<v Speaker 7>you why I'm outside, No more messing up my money, you.

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<v Speaker 5>Know what I'm saying. So it was it was it

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<v Speaker 5>was an issue for me.

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<v Speaker 7>Mean, we and him almost had We almost got into

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<v Speaker 7>a fight over we was in the hand things.

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<v Speaker 5>His man's was, man, it really was one of his man's.

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<v Speaker 5>It wasn't him.

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<v Speaker 7>His man's Like, fuck that nigga, he showing you fake love.

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<v Speaker 7>So we almost got into a big beef. The whole

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<v Speaker 7>teams were all twenty D you know what, we just

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<v Speaker 7>haven't have somebody in the middle. I think it was Wolf.

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<v Speaker 7>Wolf pretty much squashed that. God bless it that he

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<v Speaker 7>had us sit gate, had us do a sit down,

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<v Speaker 7>and we became best friends after that. So I got signed.

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<v Speaker 7>I signed with Chris Lady. I was originally going to

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<v Speaker 7>sign the Rough Fighters, but I just I had an ego,

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<v Speaker 7>you know what I'm saying. I was like, Yo, that's

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<v Speaker 7>what that's that's that's DMX label, Like I want to

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<v Speaker 7>do that over here. I want my own, Like I

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<v Speaker 7>don't want to be under DMX. I love X, but

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<v Speaker 7>I want to be my own.

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<v Speaker 5>You know what I'm saying.

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<v Speaker 7>When they got he got the Rough Fighters, I want

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<v Speaker 7>to have the problem Children because that was my organization

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<v Speaker 7>and I was the problem child and I had like

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<v Speaker 7>five of my dudes.

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<v Speaker 5>I called them a problem Georgia. So I'm like, we

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<v Speaker 5>can have our own stuff.

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<v Speaker 7>I don't want to sign underneath, and they was like, nah,

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<v Speaker 7>you can do this, but I'm like, nah, everybody already

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<v Speaker 7>know that the Rough Riders. It's symbolic with DMX in

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<v Speaker 7>the lots, like I don't care what you say.

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<v Speaker 5>DMX had already sold five million records.

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<v Speaker 7>Like there's no way that you come in there and

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<v Speaker 7>you're gonna be the main priority of BAX. So you know,

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<v Speaker 7>Chris was like, you're gonna be the priority over here.

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<v Speaker 7>I'm telling you, we're gonna do this. You know, we

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<v Speaker 7>got Foxy, but you're the only guy over here. So

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<v Speaker 7>it's not no like no competition. And it was cor Mega,

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<v Speaker 7>matthats Foxy and Cormega. He's like everybody like they got

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<v Speaker 7>their own. Lady, you're gonna do your own thing. We're

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<v Speaker 7>gonna push it. We're gonna do this. So he sold

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<v Speaker 7>me and with schedules, drove the album in the same

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<v Speaker 7>case I had.

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<v Speaker 5>I'm going back and forth with it. You know.

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<v Speaker 7>We went to trial and ended up blowing travel. You know,

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<v Speaker 7>it was my first my first fella in or whatever.

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<v Speaker 7>But I ended up getting sentenced to seven to fourteen years.

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<v Speaker 5>So you know now that that was crazy.

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<v Speaker 6>How how are you?

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<v Speaker 5>I was twenty years old, twenty.

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<v Speaker 7>Twenty years old, just about to just got this record deal,

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<v Speaker 7>just about to do all.

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<v Speaker 5>Of this stuff, and I end up going trial for

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<v Speaker 5>seven and fourteen. So I'm sitting there like this, this

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<v Speaker 5>can't be true. I was just at the Super Bowl.

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<v Speaker 7>I was just in the Bahamas recording my album with

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<v Speaker 7>Havoc and Prodigy, and you know when we in the

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<v Speaker 7>studio I got I was supposed to be doing vibor

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<v Speaker 7>things remixed the date after I got locked up. Like

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<v Speaker 7>it was just the weirdest turn of events that I've

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<v Speaker 7>probably ever seen in my life. So, you know, just

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<v Speaker 7>doing my bid I just had to find some level

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<v Speaker 7>of solace and understanding, Like, you know, I got to

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<v Speaker 7>find a purpose in this, Like I can't sit here

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<v Speaker 7>and let this destroy me, I can't. You know, I

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<v Speaker 7>gotta find focus. And I came up with this idea

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<v Speaker 7>in my mind. And I was innocent of the crime

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<v Speaker 7>that I blue trial for. Let's let me say that

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<v Speaker 7>I was. I was convicted the armed robbery of cab

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<v Speaker 7>drivers that I never robbed them my life.

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<v Speaker 5>And when I got picked out of a lot, that

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<v Speaker 5>one guy picked me.

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<v Speaker 7>Up a street seeing I looked like somebody, And so

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<v Speaker 7>that's that in itself was even worse. It was something

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<v Speaker 7>that you.

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<v Speaker 5>Did, and you you have a sudden you did.

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<v Speaker 7>You like, this is what it comes with it when

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<v Speaker 7>you sitting in jail losing a million dollar record deal

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<v Speaker 7>and you sitting in prison for some shit you didn't do.

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<v Speaker 5>You know, it's a lot.

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<v Speaker 7>But you know, I just told myself every day that

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<v Speaker 7>every data I don't learn something, I don't grow as

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<v Speaker 7>a man, the system wins.

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<v Speaker 5>You know what I'm saying. I can't sit here and

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<v Speaker 5>be down. I can't like I'm going home.

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<v Speaker 7>Eventually, I got at least seven years to do here,

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<v Speaker 7>so I got to figure out what I'm gonna do.

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<v Speaker 7>So I worked out, I read, I exercised, I wrote rhymes.

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<v Speaker 5>I had books and rhymes.

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<v Speaker 7>You know, I studied, you know, when I started realizing

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<v Speaker 7>that the prison was a business, Like you said, it

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<v Speaker 7>was an industrial system where we.

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<v Speaker 5>Were the product.

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<v Speaker 7>Blackrown might not already go in and out of prison,

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<v Speaker 7>and they just keep bringing the same ones and then

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<v Speaker 7>and they selling us the same fairy tales, you know,

0:18:06.600 --> 0:18:09.359
<v Speaker 7>they making you believe that it's some type of badge

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<v Speaker 7>of mindy to go to prison for our communities, and

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<v Speaker 7>were going in and out, and the dudes is coming

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<v Speaker 7>home telling.

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<v Speaker 5>Us how cool it is and how gangs today is

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<v Speaker 5>because they was locked up and they was in the yard.

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<v Speaker 7>And sure they was coming to visit me, and all

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<v Speaker 7>of this bullshit that you find out when you're in there.

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<v Speaker 7>It's a bunch of dudes that just dying to get home.

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<v Speaker 7>Some dudes you probably would never even talk to in

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<v Speaker 7>the street. Now you surrounded by these dudes. So I

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<v Speaker 7>realized that, and I'm like, yeah, we've been lied to

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<v Speaker 7>for years, you know what, especially in our communities.

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<v Speaker 5>So when I came home, my mind frame was different.

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<v Speaker 7>I didn't immediately get into activism, but I was definitely

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<v Speaker 7>way more conscious, you know what I'm saying. So my

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<v Speaker 7>focus was different. My whole path was different. So when

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<v Speaker 7>I did seven years later, when I did make my

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<v Speaker 7>carole board and got out, you know, I still pursued

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<v Speaker 7>my music, but you know it took time because you

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<v Speaker 7>after seven years, you don't you out of touch, you

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<v Speaker 7>don't know what's going on now, you know people you

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<v Speaker 7>don't got you know, I'm trying.

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<v Speaker 6>To can you talk about that?

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<v Speaker 2>Like how because I don't think people the vast majority

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<v Speaker 2>of the populace has never been to jail, right, so

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<v Speaker 2>it's kind of hard for people to understand with somebody that,

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<v Speaker 2>especially for a long period of time, like seven years.

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<v Speaker 2>I remember, I think it was Mano and he was

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<v Speaker 2>saying when he first came out of jail, he forgot

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<v Speaker 2>how to cross the street. Like it's like you become institutionalizing.

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<v Speaker 2>It's how hard is it to adapt back into society

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<v Speaker 2>when you've been away for seven years?

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<v Speaker 7>It is very hard because there is different There's so

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<v Speaker 7>many different transitions that you have to go through.

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<v Speaker 5>You have to go through your.

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<v Speaker 7>Own you have to you have to adapt back into society.

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<v Speaker 5>You have to get out of the society that you

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<v Speaker 5>was in. You have to.

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<v Speaker 7>You have to evolve your thinking because you used to

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<v Speaker 7>things being one way you know what I'm saying. You

0:20:03.600 --> 0:20:06.280
<v Speaker 7>used to think first, You used to do things being

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<v Speaker 7>away that they were in the street before you got back.

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<v Speaker 7>Then you're used to the surroundings that you just left.

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<v Speaker 7>So there's so many different elements that you have to

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<v Speaker 7>unpack and unroll from. So first, you're quiet because when

0:20:19.280 --> 0:20:22.840
<v Speaker 7>you're in prison you can't, you're not allowed. You're not

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<v Speaker 7>very energetic because that makes you a target. So the

0:20:26.720 --> 0:20:29.679
<v Speaker 7>most the loudest person in the yard is the target

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<v Speaker 7>and usually the weakest person, so that's how they judge you.

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<v Speaker 7>So you have to be very militant. You got to

0:20:35.280 --> 0:20:38.280
<v Speaker 7>be very focused. You gotta not say much. You listen

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<v Speaker 7>more than you talk. You know, in society you have

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<v Speaker 7>the network. So the more quiet you are, that the

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<v Speaker 7>less productive you are. So I'm moving around people and

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<v Speaker 7>I'm coming around and people are earl yah boom moore,

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<v Speaker 7>and I'm just quiet.

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<v Speaker 5>People like what man all right? Like everything good with them?

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<v Speaker 5>I'm like, nah, I'm good, he good and good and

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<v Speaker 5>they're like, yo, you are right.

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<v Speaker 7>I'm like, yeah, what what do you mean what I'm

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<v Speaker 7>saying like you look like.

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<v Speaker 5>Like people are scared of talk.

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<v Speaker 7>I'm like ah, and I didn't understand what they were

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<v Speaker 7>talking about. But I didn't make myself approachable because I

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<v Speaker 7>was a lot more serious. And then, especially dealing in

0:21:17.480 --> 0:21:20.800
<v Speaker 7>this industry, you know how faith this shit is. Everybody'll

0:21:20.880 --> 0:21:22.359
<v Speaker 7>shake your hands and tell you they love you and

0:21:22.359 --> 0:21:24.720
<v Speaker 7>they're gonna call you tomorrow, and that's not gonna happen.

0:21:25.040 --> 0:21:27.000
<v Speaker 7>They're gonna do this with you and it's not gonna happen.

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<v Speaker 7>So that don't happen in prison. You're saying that don't

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<v Speaker 7>really happen in the streets, just regular being in the streets.

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<v Speaker 5>When you deal with men, it don't really go like that.

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<v Speaker 5>So when you.

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<v Speaker 7>Start having those conversations and you seeing these industry dudes

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<v Speaker 7>and they tell you how much they love you, Yo,

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<v Speaker 7>we're gonna do this, and then they don't.

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<v Speaker 5>When you come in prison, it's like, yo, why you

0:21:47.119 --> 0:21:47.560
<v Speaker 5>ain't do that.

0:21:47.600 --> 0:21:50.800
<v Speaker 7>Everybody is used to that outside. So when you approaching

0:21:50.840 --> 0:21:52.680
<v Speaker 7>the dude left he said he's gonna do something. Don't

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<v Speaker 7>get nervous now.

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<v Speaker 5>Now they're like, yo, we don't want to be around

0:21:56.080 --> 0:21:58.120
<v Speaker 5>this dude. He bugged out, you know what I'm saying.

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<v Speaker 7>That's why when you look when men came home, he

0:22:00.280 --> 0:22:02.159
<v Speaker 7>was doing a lot of stuff. It was a lot

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<v Speaker 7>about because he wasn't used to being on that time.

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<v Speaker 7>Will you play with me? You understand I'm saying, like

0:22:09.160 --> 0:22:09.880
<v Speaker 7>you're gonna do.

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<v Speaker 5>Something to me. You can't say you're gonna do something

0:22:11.840 --> 0:22:14.000
<v Speaker 5>for me and don't do it. You can't give me

0:22:14.000 --> 0:22:15.399
<v Speaker 5>a hug and look me in my eyes say I

0:22:15.480 --> 0:22:15.800
<v Speaker 5>got you.

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<v Speaker 7>And then I called you don't see your phone or

0:22:17.720 --> 0:22:20.040
<v Speaker 7>you see me and we have the same conversation three

0:22:20.080 --> 0:22:21.159
<v Speaker 7>times and nothing happened.

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<v Speaker 5>So that's a process.

0:22:22.760 --> 0:22:26.280
<v Speaker 7>So I was getting enemies from not playing because I'm

0:22:26.280 --> 0:22:27.640
<v Speaker 7>taking you literally.

0:22:27.280 --> 0:22:29.040
<v Speaker 5>Like DJ like, yo, I love you, I'm gonna do this.

0:22:29.080 --> 0:22:32.000
<v Speaker 7>I play your record. I'm coming to the DJ. You

0:22:32.119 --> 0:22:34.720
<v Speaker 7>giving the record. They playing it for two seconds, turning

0:22:34.760 --> 0:22:37.280
<v Speaker 7>it off like you're like you doing like why he

0:22:37.320 --> 0:22:41.480
<v Speaker 7>didn't play the song? He talking about you like Noah,

0:22:41.520 --> 0:22:43.320
<v Speaker 7>you gotta do it now. But you're playing some song

0:22:43.400 --> 0:22:45.600
<v Speaker 7>for some niggas that live down south. You never see

0:22:45.600 --> 0:22:47.960
<v Speaker 7>it before in the New York club and you breaking

0:22:48.000 --> 0:22:48.280
<v Speaker 7>the song.

0:22:48.280 --> 0:22:50.440
<v Speaker 5>You're playing it four or five times, but you're playing my.

0:22:50.440 --> 0:22:53.119
<v Speaker 7>Second for my record for three seconds. So I was

0:22:53.200 --> 0:22:57.760
<v Speaker 7>having this is issues. I'm turning off niggas microphone tucking

0:22:58.240 --> 0:23:00.119
<v Speaker 7>like you know what I'm saying. So this was a

0:23:00.119 --> 0:23:03.080
<v Speaker 7>process for me. The acclamation, just realizing that you got

0:23:03.080 --> 0:23:05.560
<v Speaker 7>to become and you got to do things different the

0:23:05.560 --> 0:23:07.399
<v Speaker 7>way and you got to be a lot more diplomatic.

0:23:07.760 --> 0:23:09.800
<v Speaker 7>That was a process for me, you know what I'm saying,

0:23:10.080 --> 0:23:13.199
<v Speaker 7>and coming from prison, because you all you have in

0:23:13.280 --> 0:23:16.119
<v Speaker 7>prison is your world, the way that you carry yourself,

0:23:16.160 --> 0:23:17.280
<v Speaker 7>You carry yourself like a man.

0:23:17.359 --> 0:23:20.840
<v Speaker 5>Your word is everything. So that's how I came home,

0:23:21.480 --> 0:23:23.520
<v Speaker 5>and that's not how it is here. You know what

0:23:23.560 --> 0:23:23.920
<v Speaker 5>I'm saying.

0:23:23.960 --> 0:23:27.040
<v Speaker 7>People will tell you anything, and if you do not

0:23:28.160 --> 0:23:31.440
<v Speaker 7>adapt to that reality, then you will find yourself outside

0:23:31.440 --> 0:23:31.960
<v Speaker 7>of the bubble.

0:23:32.840 --> 0:23:34.359
<v Speaker 5>So what you got to do is learn how to

0:23:34.359 --> 0:23:34.920
<v Speaker 5>play the game.

0:23:34.960 --> 0:23:38.040
<v Speaker 7>You don't expect anything from and you realize happy you

0:23:38.040 --> 0:23:39.879
<v Speaker 7>you doing what you gotta do, whatever they do is

0:23:39.880 --> 0:23:42.920
<v Speaker 7>a plus. You don't expect anything from. So that that

0:23:43.040 --> 0:23:45.960
<v Speaker 7>was a real process of adjustment for me.

0:23:46.119 --> 0:23:49.720
<v Speaker 2>Let's let's talk about mass incarcerations. So for people that

0:23:49.720 --> 0:23:51.640
<v Speaker 2>are not familiar with some of the numbers we looked at.

0:23:51.840 --> 0:23:54.119
<v Speaker 2>So there's there's private prisons. America I think is the

0:23:54.160 --> 0:23:57.639
<v Speaker 2>only country that has private prisons. One out of five

0:23:57.840 --> 0:24:00.760
<v Speaker 2>prisoners in America are in private at prisons. It's a

0:24:00.840 --> 0:24:05.600
<v Speaker 2>two billion dollar industry. And the whole thing is really

0:24:05.640 --> 0:24:08.280
<v Speaker 2>crazy because it's like a bunch of fortune. Five hundred

0:24:08.280 --> 0:24:14.280
<v Speaker 2>companies have workers that are incarcerated from Victoria's Secrets, Whole Foods, Walmart,

0:24:14.560 --> 0:24:19.840
<v Speaker 2>Hopeful is actually owned by Amazon, so that's really Amazon, Walmart, Microsoft, Starbucks, BP,

0:24:20.920 --> 0:24:23.600
<v Speaker 2>Nintendo AT and T Target to name a few, just

0:24:23.680 --> 0:24:28.960
<v Speaker 2>a few. And there's a there's a whole economic system

0:24:29.440 --> 0:24:32.399
<v Speaker 2>that's based around jail. From the cost of phone calls

0:24:32.680 --> 0:24:38.840
<v Speaker 2>extremely high. Commissary is like way overpriced for food items,

0:24:39.720 --> 0:24:42.639
<v Speaker 2>even transportation, Like these prisons are in the middle of

0:24:42.680 --> 0:24:45.720
<v Speaker 2>nowhere most in most states, so it's like five hour

0:24:45.760 --> 0:24:49.480
<v Speaker 2>bus trips and then they have transportation companies that provide

0:24:49.560 --> 0:24:52.000
<v Speaker 2>bus trips to people's families to come.

0:24:52.000 --> 0:24:53.760
<v Speaker 6>It's oh, it's a whole system.

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<v Speaker 5>And they provide.

0:24:56.440 --> 0:24:56.920
<v Speaker 6>Free label.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, yeah, the free the freelan really quick. The free

0:24:59.400 --> 0:25:02.040
<v Speaker 3>labor thing was especially and we'll get into the pandemic.

0:25:02.080 --> 0:25:05.000
<v Speaker 3>But I work in the school and I'll never forget

0:25:05.280 --> 0:25:07.240
<v Speaker 3>uh when it just started maybe like early March.

0:25:07.680 --> 0:25:08.320
<v Speaker 4>Uh, they brought the.

0:25:08.240 --> 0:25:11.280
<v Speaker 3>Hand sanitizers into our school and at the same time

0:25:11.280 --> 0:25:13.280
<v Speaker 3>they brought it in. I remember sending shinty article like yo,

0:25:13.320 --> 0:25:15.240
<v Speaker 3>they got the prisoners making the hand sanitizer.

0:25:15.440 --> 0:25:16.520
<v Speaker 4>I'm like, now, I can't use that.

0:25:16.720 --> 0:25:19.040
<v Speaker 3>This goes against everything I stand for, Like you could

0:25:19.040 --> 0:25:22.560
<v Speaker 3>have actually employed people to make these things and gave

0:25:22.640 --> 0:25:25.280
<v Speaker 3>them a job. But Rett, you're gonna let prisoners eight

0:25:25.400 --> 0:25:26.280
<v Speaker 3>cents an hour.

0:25:26.760 --> 0:25:30.600
<v Speaker 7>And the thing about it is those same prisoners that

0:25:30.720 --> 0:25:33.920
<v Speaker 7>make that inside the prison can't go home and work

0:25:33.960 --> 0:25:35.639
<v Speaker 7>in a factory where they do that.

0:25:35.680 --> 0:25:38.440
<v Speaker 5>They won't even hire them, right, you can see what

0:25:38.480 --> 0:25:38.840
<v Speaker 5>I'm saying.

0:25:38.840 --> 0:25:41.879
<v Speaker 7>So it's like they it's prisons in there doing working

0:25:41.920 --> 0:25:44.119
<v Speaker 7>for the phone on AT and T. They answering eighteen

0:25:44.200 --> 0:25:46.560
<v Speaker 7>T calls, but can't come home and work at AT

0:25:46.680 --> 0:25:46.879
<v Speaker 7>and T.

0:25:47.320 --> 0:25:50.679
<v Speaker 5>They're doing construction and building. They on core craft.

0:25:50.680 --> 0:25:53.840
<v Speaker 7>It's the biggest thing inside the prison. They make all

0:25:53.880 --> 0:25:57.240
<v Speaker 7>the clothing, all of the soap, all everything. But you

0:25:57.320 --> 0:25:59.560
<v Speaker 7>can't come home and work if you for core craft.

0:25:59.560 --> 0:26:03.000
<v Speaker 7>And you got to feeling it, so it doesn't like

0:26:03.480 --> 0:26:05.160
<v Speaker 7>it's really it's really slavery.

0:26:05.640 --> 0:26:09.080
<v Speaker 2>And so from being inside, from like firsthand experience, because

0:26:09.160 --> 0:26:11.280
<v Speaker 2>I think that they said the average prison across America

0:26:11.320 --> 0:26:13.440
<v Speaker 2>gets paid like sixty eight cents an hour or something

0:26:13.480 --> 0:26:16.560
<v Speaker 2>like that, or eighty six cents an hour. You don't

0:26:16.600 --> 0:26:18.560
<v Speaker 2>have an option because I want to explain this for people, because,

0:26:18.560 --> 0:26:20.160
<v Speaker 2>like I said, the vast majority of people have they've

0:26:20.160 --> 0:26:22.959
<v Speaker 2>never been incarcerated. So I think it's because a lot

0:26:22.960 --> 0:26:26.240
<v Speaker 2>of times people don't have compassion a last you know,

0:26:26.280 --> 0:26:29.040
<v Speaker 2>it's very common, especially in our community. For some reason,

0:26:29.320 --> 0:26:34.840
<v Speaker 2>we're very compassionate people, but we're very uncompassionate amongst ourselves exactly,

0:26:34.880 --> 0:26:36.720
<v Speaker 2>And a lot of times it's like, well, don't do

0:26:36.800 --> 0:26:39.600
<v Speaker 2>the crime. Don't do obviously, shouldn't make crimes, that's obvious, right,

0:26:39.840 --> 0:26:44.920
<v Speaker 2>But that doesn't mean that. It's like America has five

0:26:44.920 --> 0:26:47.119
<v Speaker 2>percent of the world's population, twenty five percent of the

0:26:47.160 --> 0:26:50.320
<v Speaker 2>prison population. We have more prisoners than India. India and

0:26:50.400 --> 0:26:52.119
<v Speaker 2>China they both have a billion people. We have three

0:26:52.200 --> 0:26:55.119
<v Speaker 2>hundred million people. So there's obviously a financial system in

0:26:55.200 --> 0:26:58.520
<v Speaker 2>play here, right. So being on the inside, how was

0:26:58.560 --> 0:27:00.640
<v Speaker 2>it Because you don't you don't have an option to work.

0:27:00.720 --> 0:27:02.960
<v Speaker 6>You have to work, right, right, you.

0:27:02.880 --> 0:27:07.600
<v Speaker 7>Have you have programs, So when your program comes, you

0:27:07.640 --> 0:27:09.440
<v Speaker 7>have to choose vocationals.

0:27:09.800 --> 0:27:12.119
<v Speaker 5>What you have to like take some type of skill.

0:27:12.240 --> 0:27:15.760
<v Speaker 7>Then they probably have programs that's mandatory programs based on

0:27:15.800 --> 0:27:18.720
<v Speaker 7>your crime. They have drug programs you have to go to,

0:27:19.040 --> 0:27:22.840
<v Speaker 7>or violence programs or turn it into violence programs you

0:27:22.920 --> 0:27:25.199
<v Speaker 7>have to go to. And then you have a regular

0:27:25.280 --> 0:27:30.160
<v Speaker 7>job that you have to do. And and like he said,

0:27:30.200 --> 0:27:33.359
<v Speaker 7>the average prisoner doesn't. I don't know about maybe maybe

0:27:33.359 --> 0:27:36.680
<v Speaker 7>it went up to sixty cents hour, because I when

0:27:36.720 --> 0:27:39.320
<v Speaker 7>I was there, the job was like seven and eight

0:27:39.400 --> 0:27:42.879
<v Speaker 7>cents hour. At the end week, we make about fifty

0:27:42.920 --> 0:27:45.800
<v Speaker 7>cents probably a dollar two dollars. At the end of

0:27:45.840 --> 0:27:48.280
<v Speaker 7>the week, we'll probably have about two dollars three dollars

0:27:48.600 --> 0:27:49.600
<v Speaker 7>if you worked.

0:27:49.760 --> 0:27:51.560
<v Speaker 5>The whole week, you know what I'm saying.

0:27:51.760 --> 0:27:57.080
<v Speaker 7>So, and that was working the regular seven hours seven

0:27:57.080 --> 0:27:59.480
<v Speaker 7>eight hours a day's shift.

0:27:59.480 --> 0:28:02.439
<v Speaker 5>And you get about no more than three to four

0:28:02.520 --> 0:28:05.160
<v Speaker 5>dollars a week. That was a conversary ship.

0:28:05.320 --> 0:28:07.840
<v Speaker 7>So you know, when you when you're in it, you

0:28:07.840 --> 0:28:09.320
<v Speaker 7>don't have you like you said, you don't have a

0:28:09.640 --> 0:28:12.399
<v Speaker 7>you don't have a choice over the world, and you

0:28:12.440 --> 0:28:15.359
<v Speaker 7>can't even survive those That amount of money is not

0:28:15.440 --> 0:28:18.400
<v Speaker 7>even enough to buy toilet trees. You know, if they

0:28:18.400 --> 0:28:22.760
<v Speaker 7>don't supply you they supply you with soap, but they

0:28:22.760 --> 0:28:26.399
<v Speaker 7>don't supply you with deodorant, you know, they don't supply

0:28:26.480 --> 0:28:28.480
<v Speaker 7>you with certain with baby or you and things of

0:28:28.560 --> 0:28:31.960
<v Speaker 7>that nature to lotion yourself. So that's not even enough

0:28:32.000 --> 0:28:35.360
<v Speaker 7>to buy toiletrees. So most you bother with that. They

0:28:35.359 --> 0:28:37.440
<v Speaker 7>give you these little ten dollars, you know, the Lieutenant

0:28:37.640 --> 0:28:41.400
<v Speaker 7>Roman new ten cent Roman soups that you can buy

0:28:41.560 --> 0:28:45.680
<v Speaker 7>an average person who's who has no outside friends and

0:28:45.760 --> 0:28:48.480
<v Speaker 7>family to bring them anything, it's probably buying the about

0:28:48.480 --> 0:28:50.920
<v Speaker 7>twenty of those suits, and they living off that because

0:28:51.040 --> 0:28:53.840
<v Speaker 7>the food that they feed you can't really fill you up,

0:28:54.120 --> 0:28:55.480
<v Speaker 7>and most of it ain't even good.

0:28:56.080 --> 0:29:01.400
<v Speaker 5>So it's it's it's definitely slave slave industry inside.

0:29:01.040 --> 0:29:03.000
<v Speaker 4>Of prison, and it's a big business.

0:29:03.120 --> 0:29:05.680
<v Speaker 3>I think the first time it probably was on Kanye's album,

0:29:05.680 --> 0:29:07.360
<v Speaker 3>and maybe I was ignorant to it, but when he

0:29:07.440 --> 0:29:09.560
<v Speaker 3>said the line the CCA teamed up with the DEA,

0:29:10.240 --> 0:29:12.560
<v Speaker 3>I had to stop him, like yo, the CCA, and

0:29:12.600 --> 0:29:16.480
<v Speaker 3>then actually doing some research the Correction Corporation of America.

0:29:16.600 --> 0:29:20.080
<v Speaker 3>They're building these private prisons, and when you build a prison,

0:29:20.160 --> 0:29:24.240
<v Speaker 3>you have to have prisoners, obviously, so they're making millions

0:29:24.240 --> 0:29:26.680
<v Speaker 3>of the dollars building these prisons and then finding inmates.

0:29:26.720 --> 0:29:27.560
<v Speaker 4>But what they're doing at.

0:29:27.520 --> 0:29:31.600
<v Speaker 3>The same time is they have to incriminate people. Right,

0:29:31.640 --> 0:29:33.560
<v Speaker 3>So it's like, Yo, the thing that used to not

0:29:33.680 --> 0:29:36.360
<v Speaker 3>be legal, now it is. And that's happened over time.

0:29:36.400 --> 0:29:39.880
<v Speaker 3>We've seen that happen with Mexicans in the eighteen hundreds

0:29:39.920 --> 0:29:42.959
<v Speaker 3>and the Chinese and during the gold Rush, Like we're

0:29:42.960 --> 0:29:45.320
<v Speaker 3>going to criminalize what they do and people are not

0:29:45.360 --> 0:29:47.240
<v Speaker 3>aware of it. Right, So when you're talking about this generation,

0:29:47.320 --> 0:29:49.360
<v Speaker 3>I'm just like, Yeah, they don't get it because they

0:29:49.360 --> 0:29:50.440
<v Speaker 3>can't see the big picture.

0:29:54.520 --> 0:29:58.520
<v Speaker 7>America is built on capitalism. Capitalism only came to survive.

0:29:58.800 --> 0:30:01.280
<v Speaker 7>If there's a lower class, there has to be a bottom.

0:30:01.520 --> 0:30:03.320
<v Speaker 7>They don't really have to be a middle class, but

0:30:03.360 --> 0:30:06.160
<v Speaker 7>the bottom has to be someone. So this is why,

0:30:06.520 --> 0:30:09.000
<v Speaker 7>that's why why supremacy is such a big thing when

0:30:09.040 --> 0:30:11.760
<v Speaker 7>we talk about it for black people and people don't

0:30:11.840 --> 0:30:13.960
<v Speaker 7>understand it or you could do anything, No, it's not

0:30:14.040 --> 0:30:15.840
<v Speaker 7>meant for you to do everything. The reason why we

0:30:15.920 --> 0:30:19.560
<v Speaker 7>in marginalized communities, why you have projects, why the reason

0:30:19.600 --> 0:30:22.040
<v Speaker 7>why they don't fix it up, because we need crime

0:30:22.120 --> 0:30:23.320
<v Speaker 7>to happen in these communities.

0:30:23.360 --> 0:30:24.720
<v Speaker 5>They need crime like, so.

0:30:24.720 --> 0:30:28.240
<v Speaker 7>When after this pandemic, there's going to be a flood

0:30:28.280 --> 0:30:31.400
<v Speaker 7>of flush in crime because you know why, because people

0:30:31.480 --> 0:30:33.959
<v Speaker 7>are dealing with trauma, they're dealing with fear, people are

0:30:33.960 --> 0:30:37.720
<v Speaker 7>gonna be dealing with financial issues. They cut all of

0:30:37.760 --> 0:30:40.920
<v Speaker 7>the summer programs. The kids are not getting no summer youth.

0:30:41.040 --> 0:30:45.360
<v Speaker 7>There's no basketball, there's no sports. They close the parks

0:30:45.440 --> 0:30:47.960
<v Speaker 7>or what else are you going to do If you're

0:30:48.120 --> 0:30:51.480
<v Speaker 7>living in a project, you know, you're sitting around, you're hot,

0:30:51.600 --> 0:30:53.320
<v Speaker 7>you're outside, you're not stay in the house.

0:30:53.440 --> 0:30:54.320
<v Speaker 5>There's nothing but crime.

0:30:54.360 --> 0:30:57.040
<v Speaker 7>You're trying to you're probably gonna rob somebody because now

0:30:57.280 --> 0:30:59.720
<v Speaker 7>you can't even enjoy the sports. The kids don't even

0:30:59.760 --> 0:31:02.280
<v Speaker 7>go get to go enjoy the sports. You frustrated, you

0:31:02.280 --> 0:31:05.840
<v Speaker 7>didn't graduate, You missed your graduation. You was probably going

0:31:05.880 --> 0:31:08.760
<v Speaker 7>to one of the top basketball players. You're supposed to

0:31:08.760 --> 0:31:09.719
<v Speaker 7>go to D one school.

0:31:09.760 --> 0:31:10.440
<v Speaker 5>You didn't even get to.

0:31:10.400 --> 0:31:12.600
<v Speaker 7>Play your last year. You don't even know if you're

0:31:12.600 --> 0:31:15.120
<v Speaker 7>going back to us. Like, there's so much things that's

0:31:15.160 --> 0:31:18.360
<v Speaker 7>going to breed crime in our communities right now. You know,

0:31:18.880 --> 0:31:21.760
<v Speaker 7>So this is this right here is a time like

0:31:21.840 --> 0:31:24.040
<v Speaker 7>when you if you if you start studying stops. The

0:31:24.080 --> 0:31:27.240
<v Speaker 7>prison industry is what they invested in right now, prison

0:31:28.240 --> 0:31:30.880
<v Speaker 7>pharmaceuticals because they can try to force us into back.

0:31:30.960 --> 0:31:33.719
<v Speaker 5>Like, all of these things are things that's gonna happen.

0:31:34.160 --> 0:31:34.360
<v Speaker 5>You know.

0:31:34.440 --> 0:31:37.520
<v Speaker 7>The stimulus product pack was to keep people silent because

0:31:37.520 --> 0:31:40.040
<v Speaker 7>when the stimulus is over and then when you go back,

0:31:40.080 --> 0:31:41.880
<v Speaker 7>they said, we got the highest this is the highest

0:31:42.000 --> 0:31:46.240
<v Speaker 7>unemployment ever. They got over forty million people who've apply

0:31:46.400 --> 0:31:50.400
<v Speaker 7>for unemployment who lost their jobs. So that's going to

0:31:50.480 --> 0:31:52.280
<v Speaker 7>what that's going to look like in the next couple

0:31:52.360 --> 0:31:55.720
<v Speaker 7>of months. When they start to reopen society and people

0:31:55.720 --> 0:31:57.480
<v Speaker 7>are moving, it's gonna breed crime.

0:31:57.920 --> 0:31:59.040
<v Speaker 5>There's gonna be some people that.

0:31:59.080 --> 0:32:02.200
<v Speaker 3>Have nothing, some of them some of those jobs that

0:32:02.200 --> 0:32:04.080
<v Speaker 3>they used to have won't be there right and a

0:32:04.080 --> 0:32:06.440
<v Speaker 3>lot of people, a lot of people get confused. It's like, oh,

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<v Speaker 3>that can't happen here. But I'm like, yo, somebody can't

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<v Speaker 3>eat where they live, they come into your neighborhood.

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<v Speaker 5>That's a fact.

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<v Speaker 4>You know what I'm saying.

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<v Speaker 5>Poverty is crime. That's the bottom line. Anywhere that you

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<v Speaker 5>look with people live in poverty, there's crime.

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<v Speaker 7>You know, it's not black people, it's not spending people

0:32:21.800 --> 0:32:24.960
<v Speaker 7>it's the conditions that people. If you cannot change the conditions,

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<v Speaker 7>you can't change the problems. When people say, yo, they

0:32:27.320 --> 0:32:30.720
<v Speaker 7>shouldn't commit committed the crimes, well, the conditions were set

0:32:30.760 --> 0:32:32.760
<v Speaker 7>there for them to commit the crime. If you you

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<v Speaker 7>know that, some people have the ability to live with

0:32:36.080 --> 0:32:38.320
<v Speaker 7>with mega, to live with nothing.

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<v Speaker 5>Some people okay with that.

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<v Speaker 7>When you look outside and you see other people having

0:32:42.160 --> 0:32:44.440
<v Speaker 7>things as a young boy, and you're being teased for

0:32:44.560 --> 0:32:46.360
<v Speaker 7>not having things, and you try to figure out how

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<v Speaker 7>how to get it, and the only vision of success

0:32:48.960 --> 0:32:51.240
<v Speaker 7>you ever seen was a drug dealer. The only people

0:32:51.280 --> 0:32:53.040
<v Speaker 7>you ever seen have money with a drug dealer. And

0:32:53.040 --> 0:32:54.760
<v Speaker 7>the stick of kids that pulled up, they had the

0:32:54.800 --> 0:32:57.520
<v Speaker 7>girl you want. They had to call you want, they.

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<v Speaker 5>Had to respect you want.

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<v Speaker 7>It's not as easy as you just don't commit the crime.

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<v Speaker 7>And you just keep going to school with barely enough

0:33:04.680 --> 0:33:07.040
<v Speaker 7>lunch money and holds in your jeans, and you keep

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<v Speaker 7>telling me, no, you can't buy the new video game

0:33:09.280 --> 0:33:11.800
<v Speaker 7>I want. You can't know, we can't get these new shoes,

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<v Speaker 7>and the cable keep getting.

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<v Speaker 5>Cut off, and some days to come in there's nothing refrigerator.

0:33:15.760 --> 0:33:18.520
<v Speaker 7>It's easy to say you should they shouldn't commit the

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<v Speaker 7>crime when you don't understand those realities, you know what

0:33:21.120 --> 0:33:23.040
<v Speaker 7>I'm saying, So you have to you have to change

0:33:23.080 --> 0:33:25.760
<v Speaker 7>those realities for you to change the mind state of

0:33:25.800 --> 0:33:28.760
<v Speaker 7>the individual. Nobody wants to commit crime. I never I

0:33:28.840 --> 0:33:31.840
<v Speaker 7>never want. I did everything possible now to commit a crime.

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<v Speaker 7>But it was a time where I felt like I

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<v Speaker 7>was I was a man, and I was around people,

0:33:36.120 --> 0:33:38.080
<v Speaker 7>and I don't even feel comfortable because I didn't have

0:33:38.320 --> 0:33:41.520
<v Speaker 7>a dollar two dollars in my pod. So that that

0:33:41.520 --> 0:33:44.160
<v Speaker 7>that that starts to play on the psyche. It's a

0:33:44.200 --> 0:33:47.479
<v Speaker 7>reality that we live with in marginalized communities. And you know,

0:33:47.560 --> 0:33:50.920
<v Speaker 7>and and I think people who don't identify with that,

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<v Speaker 7>and and there are some people who are able to

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<v Speaker 7>move through that without committing crowd because it's just certain

0:33:57.440 --> 0:34:00.720
<v Speaker 7>people that are able to, you know, overcome. So people

0:34:00.720 --> 0:34:03.320
<v Speaker 7>come from strong families to where even though they don't

0:34:03.360 --> 0:34:06.640
<v Speaker 7>have nothing, they have a strong unit. Where you can't

0:34:06.680 --> 0:34:09.160
<v Speaker 7>say that to a person who father o deed when

0:34:09.200 --> 0:34:11.840
<v Speaker 7>he's eleven years old. The mother's don't crack in the streets,

0:34:12.080 --> 0:34:14.520
<v Speaker 7>and you don't have the food stamps. She done sold

0:34:14.520 --> 0:34:15.600
<v Speaker 7>the food stamps.

0:34:15.239 --> 0:34:16.719
<v Speaker 5>And you're coming home and it's just you and your

0:34:16.760 --> 0:34:17.440
<v Speaker 5>little sister in.

0:34:17.360 --> 0:34:19.160
<v Speaker 7>The house, and you got to figure out how to eat.

0:34:19.440 --> 0:34:21.840
<v Speaker 7>That's a different conversation. So when people say you just

0:34:21.880 --> 0:34:24.799
<v Speaker 7>don't commit the crime and don't understand the realities that

0:34:24.920 --> 0:34:28.200
<v Speaker 7>come with that, it's an insult, you know, it's inso

0:34:28.320 --> 0:34:31.360
<v Speaker 7>to somebody who has a good heart, who considers themselves

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<v Speaker 7>a good person.

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<v Speaker 5>If you look at.

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<v Speaker 7>Most of our people, who look at jay Z, you

0:34:35.360 --> 0:34:38.040
<v Speaker 7>look at fifty when they got the opportunities, they didn't

0:34:38.080 --> 0:34:41.040
<v Speaker 7>have to commit crimes, you know, but they they got

0:34:41.120 --> 0:34:43.640
<v Speaker 7>where they got because if it wasn't for those crimes

0:34:43.680 --> 0:34:46.240
<v Speaker 7>they committed, you wouldn't even know them. They probably would

0:34:46.239 --> 0:34:48.239
<v Speaker 7>have been in the streets someone You understand I'm saying.

0:34:48.280 --> 0:34:51.279
<v Speaker 7>So it's a double assed ward and we want to

0:34:51.320 --> 0:34:54.520
<v Speaker 7>do better. We got to understand the circumstances in our community.

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<v Speaker 2>Let me ask you this because just I'm interested to

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<v Speaker 5>So that's what jobs.

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<v Speaker 7>Because one of my friends he literally he came home

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<v Speaker 7>two days ago and he told me he was working

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<v Speaker 7>for I think it was att of the Rise and

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<v Speaker 7>wanted them.

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<v Speaker 5>He was pick on the call and say hello, are

0:38:10.680 --> 0:38:12.799
<v Speaker 5>you who would you like to speak to it?

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<v Speaker 7>He would direct the call in certain lines that he

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<v Speaker 7>pressed and he would ford them to you know, that

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<v Speaker 7>can give them certain home.

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<v Speaker 5>But he was the first line of calls that they called.

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<v Speaker 2>That's interesting because it's like, yeah, it's it's really you know,

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<v Speaker 2>it's like you don't have a choice to do it

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<v Speaker 2>because if you don't do it, what happens?

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<v Speaker 6>You get punished.

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<v Speaker 4>Right, it's in fraction, Right, he's an infraction.

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<v Speaker 7>You could lose your time then they can if you

0:38:39.560 --> 0:38:41.800
<v Speaker 7>have parole or whatever, they can.

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<v Speaker 3>But that's part of the cycle, right, like that, and

0:38:44.400 --> 0:38:46.600
<v Speaker 3>that's what keeps you there, right, So I commit this

0:38:46.640 --> 0:38:49.960
<v Speaker 3>infraction now my time is longer now they make more

0:38:50.000 --> 0:38:51.799
<v Speaker 3>money because I'm staying, you know what I'm saying.

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<v Speaker 4>It's all part of the same.

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<v Speaker 6>Circle, you know.

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<v Speaker 2>And I'm one of these people where you know, I

0:38:55.800 --> 0:38:59.040
<v Speaker 2>hate conspiracy theory because I'm just the person that I

0:38:59.120 --> 0:39:01.239
<v Speaker 2>like to deal with fact, right, But a lot of

0:39:01.239 --> 0:39:03.319
<v Speaker 2>this stuff is kind of it's not a conspiracy. It's

0:39:03.360 --> 0:39:06.799
<v Speaker 2>common sense where it's like, Okay, if I if I'm

0:39:06.800 --> 0:39:10.480
<v Speaker 2>the CEO of a fortune five hundred company right now,

0:39:10.719 --> 0:39:14.640
<v Speaker 2>the easiest option is to outsource it to like India

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<v Speaker 2>what they do, but you still got to pay them something,

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<v Speaker 2>even if it's like two dollars an hour. It's like

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<v Speaker 2>and it's like, you know, it's a language different thing

0:39:21.600 --> 0:39:24.200
<v Speaker 2>though they speak English, but it's you know, whereas somebody

0:39:24.239 --> 0:39:27.680
<v Speaker 2>from America that speaks English that you can pay ten

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<v Speaker 2>cents an hour literally.

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<v Speaker 4>Some sense a day, right an hour?

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<v Speaker 2>Right cents an hour? I mean on the bottom company's

0:39:37.000 --> 0:39:38.880
<v Speaker 2>bottom line. Why would it not? Why would I not

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<v Speaker 2>do that? So being that that's a work population, you

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<v Speaker 2>it's really no incentive not to have people in jails,

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<v Speaker 2>if anything, is in the sense of to keep the

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<v Speaker 2>jails full because you have a free.

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<v Speaker 6>People here.

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<v Speaker 2>Two million people that's that's locked up, that's that's working

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<v Speaker 2>for free. And this is why it's not makes common

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<v Speaker 2>sense that we have twenty five percent of the world's

0:40:02.960 --> 0:40:04.879
<v Speaker 2>prison population only five percent of the.

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<v Speaker 6>World total population.

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<v Speaker 4>It's a big business.

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<v Speaker 6>It's a business when it all comes down to money.

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<v Speaker 7>At the end of the day, all comes down to money.

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<v Speaker 7>And unfortunately, we came here as labor. That's what that's

0:40:15.440 --> 0:40:19.359
<v Speaker 7>how black people brought to this country. So we maintained that,

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<v Speaker 7>you know, and until we understand that reality and we stop,

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<v Speaker 7>we stop punishing each other and stop figuring out how

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<v Speaker 7>to build with each other, because everybody looks down on

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<v Speaker 7>somebody else based on their circumstances or you don't got this,

0:40:34.600 --> 0:40:36.800
<v Speaker 7>you you should have never did this, and not understanding

0:40:36.800 --> 0:40:41.080
<v Speaker 7>people's services. And so until we create a culture, because

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<v Speaker 7>the problem with us as blacks in America, we don't

0:40:43.440 --> 0:40:47.040
<v Speaker 7>have one culture. We're not a monolith. And and people

0:40:47.080 --> 0:40:49.480
<v Speaker 7>say that as it's a positive thing, and I think

0:40:49.520 --> 0:40:52.719
<v Speaker 7>it's it's too our dittric because if you look at

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<v Speaker 7>every other culture, when you look at the Asians, they

0:40:55.600 --> 0:40:56.480
<v Speaker 7>have one culture.

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<v Speaker 5>You know, they immediately.

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<v Speaker 7>When something happen as they move together because it represents

0:41:02.400 --> 0:41:04.400
<v Speaker 7>they culture. When you look at the Jews, they have

0:41:04.520 --> 0:41:07.920
<v Speaker 7>one culture, so it happens they all move together and

0:41:08.000 --> 0:41:10.680
<v Speaker 7>one and it gives it gives them a sense of power.

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<v Speaker 7>Even when you look at the Hispanic community, the Minigans

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<v Speaker 7>in Puerto Ricans, they have a culture they form together.

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<v Speaker 7>We the only people that might hang with the Puerto Ricans.

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<v Speaker 7>We might be over here, we might be everywhere else.

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<v Speaker 7>But I don't gotta do it just because you're black.

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<v Speaker 7>We don't feel no obligation just because you're black to

0:41:28.000 --> 0:41:31.000
<v Speaker 7>support you. It just it's just not how most people feel.

0:41:31.040 --> 0:41:32.920
<v Speaker 7>They feel like I did it myself. You need to

0:41:32.920 --> 0:41:36.360
<v Speaker 7>figure out if the Chinese person come to jail. Every

0:41:36.480 --> 0:41:39.120
<v Speaker 7>Chinese person Asian person in there is figuring out are

0:41:39.120 --> 0:41:41.480
<v Speaker 7>you good? What you need to speak their language. They're

0:41:41.480 --> 0:41:43.080
<v Speaker 7>gonna bring them, they gonna feed them. They're gonna make

0:41:43.080 --> 0:41:46.200
<v Speaker 7>su a good Hispanic person. Come, all of this spanding

0:41:46.200 --> 0:41:47.000
<v Speaker 7>people are gonna pull them.

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<v Speaker 5>They're gonna feed them. You good black person. Come, They're

0:41:49.120 --> 0:41:50.680
<v Speaker 5>gonna look at you like you got to head.

0:41:50.640 --> 0:41:50.960
<v Speaker 6>Feed you.

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<v Speaker 5>Unless you unless you they knew you from somewhere.

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<v Speaker 7>But the ain't no just black people gonna say, oh,

0:41:56.680 --> 0:41:57.880
<v Speaker 7>this is a black dude, I'm gonna.

0:41:57.719 --> 0:42:00.399
<v Speaker 5>Make you good. It just don't work like that. So

0:42:00.600 --> 0:42:02.680
<v Speaker 5>it shows the divide. We just don't move.

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<v Speaker 2>Being on the inside. Did people like did some of

0:42:06.600 --> 0:42:08.880
<v Speaker 2>your comrades while you was locked up start to realize

0:42:08.920 --> 0:42:11.160
<v Speaker 2>that the financial play behind it? Like what they starting

0:42:11.200 --> 0:42:13.880
<v Speaker 2>to see like this, Like I'm out in the streets

0:42:13.920 --> 0:42:15.920
<v Speaker 2>doing all of this, but this is actually a bigger

0:42:15.960 --> 0:42:20.400
<v Speaker 2>play here, and now I'm working for free, for Lord

0:42:20.440 --> 0:42:22.319
<v Speaker 2>and Taylor, all of these companies. Like did they Did

0:42:22.320 --> 0:42:24.319
<v Speaker 2>they ever realize that inside? Did you ever have those

0:42:24.360 --> 0:42:25.960
<v Speaker 2>kind of conversations with people inside?

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<v Speaker 7>It's the most the most brilliant people I ever met.

0:42:30.040 --> 0:42:32.799
<v Speaker 5>Was in prison. I met genius man and they never

0:42:32.840 --> 0:42:33.359
<v Speaker 5>coming home.

0:42:33.920 --> 0:42:37.880
<v Speaker 7>Men who got convicted for stealing a dollar out of

0:42:37.880 --> 0:42:42.719
<v Speaker 7>white women's purse, supposedly on robbery, doing thirty and forty years,

0:42:43.080 --> 0:42:46.120
<v Speaker 7>you know, at seventeen and been getting hit at the

0:42:46.160 --> 0:42:47.120
<v Speaker 7>board three and.

0:42:47.160 --> 0:42:50.239
<v Speaker 5>Four times like this, This is the reality that.

0:42:50.200 --> 0:42:53.440
<v Speaker 7>We come from, you know, the crimes that that people

0:42:53.560 --> 0:42:56.960
<v Speaker 7>that our brothers are spending. If you if you heard

0:42:57.600 --> 0:43:00.319
<v Speaker 7>the reality of what these crimes. I went to jail,

0:43:00.360 --> 0:43:03.560
<v Speaker 7>I did seven and fourteen years, no record. I was

0:43:03.600 --> 0:43:08.319
<v Speaker 7>going to John Jay College nothing for supposedly robin ten

0:43:08.400 --> 0:43:11.520
<v Speaker 7>dollars from a cab driver with a gun that nobody

0:43:11.520 --> 0:43:13.440
<v Speaker 7>ever found, nobody was ever hurt.

0:43:13.600 --> 0:43:14.759
<v Speaker 5>And he sends me this seven to.

0:43:14.840 --> 0:43:17.520
<v Speaker 7>Fourteen years and a problem in my life with record,

0:43:17.560 --> 0:43:20.560
<v Speaker 7>deal all these things. People sending me letters like, oh,

0:43:20.719 --> 0:43:22.480
<v Speaker 7>we'll do this for him, We'll make sure he's good.

0:43:22.520 --> 0:43:24.640
<v Speaker 7>And they say, now we got to send him in

0:43:24.719 --> 0:43:27.680
<v Speaker 7>jail for sef to ruin your life. You understand, said,

0:43:27.680 --> 0:43:30.200
<v Speaker 7>this is the reality that our people come from. They

0:43:30.200 --> 0:43:32.680
<v Speaker 7>don't have those realities in different communities.

0:43:33.160 --> 0:43:33.400
<v Speaker 5>You know.

0:43:33.880 --> 0:43:37.400
<v Speaker 7>I know, the white dude was convicted of raping some

0:43:37.440 --> 0:43:40.640
<v Speaker 7>girl behind you know, and they're throwing in a dumpster,

0:43:41.000 --> 0:43:42.600
<v Speaker 7>and they said, we're not putting him in jail because

0:43:42.600 --> 0:43:43.800
<v Speaker 7>it's gonna mess up his college.

0:43:43.840 --> 0:43:46.640
<v Speaker 4>He's going to college, you know what I'm saying.

0:43:46.719 --> 0:43:49.200
<v Speaker 7>So this is this, this one, this is this is

0:43:49.239 --> 0:43:49.880
<v Speaker 7>what we deal with.

0:43:50.040 --> 0:43:51.520
<v Speaker 5>This is a reality when we deal me.

0:43:52.120 --> 0:43:55.000
<v Speaker 7>So of course, this dude, when you get in there

0:43:55.000 --> 0:43:56.759
<v Speaker 7>and you start to really look and say, damn, it's

0:43:56.760 --> 0:43:59.560
<v Speaker 7>only us coming in these doors, and it's only us staying.

0:44:00.160 --> 0:44:04.040
<v Speaker 7>You know, they to the minimum facilities where they're doing

0:44:04.040 --> 0:44:05.879
<v Speaker 7>two and three years, don't matter what the crime, they're

0:44:05.880 --> 0:44:09.240
<v Speaker 7>getting billions, they doing white collar crimes, getting a hundred

0:44:09.239 --> 0:44:11.600
<v Speaker 7>million dollars and they going home for two and three years.

0:44:11.600 --> 0:44:13.680
<v Speaker 7>You really tell you about her situation. She ended up

0:44:13.719 --> 0:44:15.279
<v Speaker 7>doing ten years years.

0:44:15.800 --> 0:44:18.040
<v Speaker 5>People who put her on did one in two years.

0:44:18.520 --> 0:44:20.440
<v Speaker 7>You know, the people who made way more money than

0:44:20.520 --> 0:44:23.640
<v Speaker 7>her ended up doing two years and one year or

0:44:23.680 --> 0:44:24.400
<v Speaker 7>getting probation.

0:44:24.640 --> 0:44:27.600
<v Speaker 5>So and the only difference was the skin color, you

0:44:27.640 --> 0:44:29.319
<v Speaker 5>know what I'm saying. So this is the reality that

0:44:29.360 --> 0:44:31.319
<v Speaker 5>we deal with when you when we sit there. Of

0:44:31.320 --> 0:44:34.480
<v Speaker 5>course we realize if you, if you have any level.

0:44:34.239 --> 0:44:36.120
<v Speaker 7>Of intellect, you realize as a play that this is

0:44:36.120 --> 0:44:38.520
<v Speaker 7>a money then you know they giving they getting about

0:44:38.520 --> 0:44:41.200
<v Speaker 7>fifty thousand a year for each inmate in there, and

0:44:41.239 --> 0:44:44.640
<v Speaker 7>they don't provide nothing for you but a bed that

0:44:44.800 --> 0:44:47.879
<v Speaker 7>just keeps going in and pay three pair of state

0:44:47.920 --> 0:44:51.600
<v Speaker 7>greens everything else, and they give you a fucking a

0:44:51.640 --> 0:44:55.160
<v Speaker 7>state mail every day that probably they probably spending about

0:44:55.360 --> 0:45:00.880
<v Speaker 7>one thousand dollars a week on the whole prison.

0:45:01.400 --> 0:45:04.359
<v Speaker 5>Right they make it thirty.

0:45:04.080 --> 0:45:07.520
<v Speaker 7>And fifty thousand on each individual in that prison.

0:45:07.760 --> 0:45:10.600
<v Speaker 2>And it also helps the economy of the local town

0:45:12.120 --> 0:45:13.960
<v Speaker 2>because these towns are like in the middle of nowhere,

0:45:14.200 --> 0:45:19.040
<v Speaker 2>and the prison the prisoners, yeah, they counted as population.

0:45:19.120 --> 0:45:21.080
<v Speaker 2>So like when they do the census, they get and

0:45:21.120 --> 0:45:22.400
<v Speaker 2>so they taken out of their community.

0:45:22.840 --> 0:45:23.520
<v Speaker 4>They can't vote.

0:45:23.560 --> 0:45:25.480
<v Speaker 2>There's more people in the other community. And then they

0:45:25.520 --> 0:45:27.400
<v Speaker 2>have like a thing where it's like, cause one of

0:45:27.400 --> 0:45:31.839
<v Speaker 2>my cousins was was incarcerated in a federal penitentiary in Connecticut,

0:45:32.120 --> 0:45:34.200
<v Speaker 2>and I want to visit them, and I think I

0:45:34.200 --> 0:45:36.280
<v Speaker 2>had jeans on, so I didn't know that you couldn't

0:45:36.280 --> 0:45:39.040
<v Speaker 2>wear a geen so you had to buy sweat. So

0:45:39.080 --> 0:45:40.600
<v Speaker 2>I drove two hours to get there. I'm not going

0:45:40.680 --> 0:45:43.200
<v Speaker 2>to not go. So they like, don't worry about it.

0:45:43.480 --> 0:45:48.280
<v Speaker 2>There's a Marshals down the street, and they like that's convenient.

0:45:48.280 --> 0:45:50.919
<v Speaker 2>They like everybody nobody really knows that, right, So it's

0:45:50.920 --> 0:45:54.239
<v Speaker 2>like every day people's going to marshal the person. One person,

0:45:54.280 --> 0:45:55.440
<v Speaker 2>God was coolly like, look, this is what you do.

0:45:55.520 --> 0:45:57.560
<v Speaker 2>You buy it, keep it, tag going, then return it.

0:45:57.560 --> 0:46:00.279
<v Speaker 2>But they like it happens so much. It's not aid

0:46:00.520 --> 0:46:03.120
<v Speaker 2>the marshalls build your business around it exactly.

0:46:03.160 --> 0:46:03.680
<v Speaker 6>It's crazy.

0:46:03.800 --> 0:46:05.560
<v Speaker 7>Most person, it ain't gonna take you back because they're like,

0:46:05.600 --> 0:46:06.920
<v Speaker 7>I ain't going back, and let me give me a

0:46:07.000 --> 0:46:08.800
<v Speaker 7>kid of jeans, real quick, little.

0:46:08.560 --> 0:46:09.399
<v Speaker 5>Sweats, and I'm good.

0:46:09.560 --> 0:46:11.359
<v Speaker 4>There's gonna be a five hour ride back home. Now,

0:46:11.360 --> 0:46:11.680
<v Speaker 4>I'm good.

0:46:12.560 --> 0:46:15.080
<v Speaker 5>And that's what we deal with. Man. It's like the

0:46:15.600 --> 0:46:19.440
<v Speaker 5>whole town, the whole all them towns upstate. You know

0:46:19.520 --> 0:46:20.320
<v Speaker 5>a lot of these towns.

0:46:20.320 --> 0:46:23.280
<v Speaker 7>I never wore killing all these that's the whole industry

0:46:23.320 --> 0:46:23.760
<v Speaker 7>is prison.

0:46:23.880 --> 0:46:27.319
<v Speaker 5>There's nothing else Orleans. It's nothing. I went is in

0:46:27.320 --> 0:46:27.680
<v Speaker 5>the jail.

0:46:27.840 --> 0:46:32.319
<v Speaker 7>Orleans and Benford Hills is right across the street, and everybody,

0:46:32.480 --> 0:46:34.200
<v Speaker 7>all of the seons is like cousins.

0:46:35.000 --> 0:46:37.640
<v Speaker 5>Family. He was either family or he was married to

0:46:37.680 --> 0:46:38.160
<v Speaker 5>his sister.

0:46:38.960 --> 0:46:41.759
<v Speaker 7>It was one town where all everybody in the town

0:46:41.840 --> 0:46:42.920
<v Speaker 7>worked in the prison.

0:46:43.840 --> 0:46:44.399
<v Speaker 4>After you release.

0:46:44.480 --> 0:46:46.640
<v Speaker 3>Did you have to go through the probation process, because

0:46:46.680 --> 0:46:48.080
<v Speaker 3>I know that's something that Meek talked about a lot

0:46:48.120 --> 0:46:49.400
<v Speaker 3>and he's trying, you know, they're trying to do the

0:46:49.680 --> 0:46:50.520
<v Speaker 3>reform project.

0:46:50.960 --> 0:46:52.080
<v Speaker 4>Can you talk about that a little bit.

0:46:52.880 --> 0:46:54.520
<v Speaker 5>Well, I didn't have to do probation.

0:46:54.560 --> 0:46:58.040
<v Speaker 7>I had to do parole, which is pretty much it's similar,

0:46:58.120 --> 0:47:01.920
<v Speaker 7>but it's different, you know, as far as parole. When

0:47:01.920 --> 0:47:04.799
<v Speaker 7>you on parole, you have a certain amount of time

0:47:04.880 --> 0:47:09.400
<v Speaker 7>on parole excuse me, that you have to complete without

0:47:09.440 --> 0:47:13.360
<v Speaker 7>being violated. So I came home. I did seven years

0:47:13.400 --> 0:47:16.400
<v Speaker 7>in prison. I have a seven to fourteen means I

0:47:16.520 --> 0:47:19.600
<v Speaker 7>either do seven or the maximum I could do is fourteen.

0:47:19.920 --> 0:47:22.240
<v Speaker 7>So after I was released on my parole, that means

0:47:22.239 --> 0:47:26.000
<v Speaker 7>I had seven years left on parole. So what happens

0:47:26.080 --> 0:47:28.400
<v Speaker 7>is you have to not get into any trouble for

0:47:28.440 --> 0:47:33.080
<v Speaker 7>seven years, and if you do, they can keep violating

0:47:33.120 --> 0:47:36.799
<v Speaker 7>you based on the amount of time that you have.

0:47:38.040 --> 0:47:42.240
<v Speaker 7>So if you're on parole right and you get violated,

0:47:42.280 --> 0:47:49.360
<v Speaker 7>you do a year good, and now you get into trouble,

0:47:49.400 --> 0:47:54.080
<v Speaker 7>they can give you two years in prison. The maximum

0:47:54.080 --> 0:47:56.440
<v Speaker 7>they can give you two years every time, and they

0:47:56.440 --> 0:47:59.920
<v Speaker 7>can keep doing that until you get to your maximum day.

0:48:00.360 --> 0:48:03.080
<v Speaker 3>So that seven years could be like two to two

0:48:03.120 --> 0:48:05.880
<v Speaker 3>and then one yeoh, you can just be doing.

0:48:05.680 --> 0:48:06.920
<v Speaker 5>Good, nothing booming.

0:48:07.160 --> 0:48:09.600
<v Speaker 7>We're gonna violate you three years or we're gonna max

0:48:09.800 --> 0:48:13.000
<v Speaker 7>out on your Whatever they want to do for probation

0:48:13.200 --> 0:48:16.560
<v Speaker 7>is different because they can continue keep starting your probation

0:48:16.719 --> 0:48:20.480
<v Speaker 7>over probation period means that we're gonna suspend your sentence

0:48:21.000 --> 0:48:23.920
<v Speaker 7>for five years, but you can't get into any trouble

0:48:24.239 --> 0:48:26.480
<v Speaker 7>within that five years, and if you do, we get

0:48:26.560 --> 0:48:26.960
<v Speaker 7>start it.

0:48:26.880 --> 0:48:27.840
<v Speaker 5>All the way over again.

0:48:29.440 --> 0:48:32.359
<v Speaker 2>And trouble can be any anything, any form. That's why

0:48:32.640 --> 0:48:35.120
<v Speaker 2>the Meek Mill thing was, it was he's a celebrity,

0:48:35.160 --> 0:48:36.800
<v Speaker 2>he's a you know, one of the top rappers.

0:48:36.800 --> 0:48:38.360
<v Speaker 6>So that really highlighted.

0:48:38.760 --> 0:48:40.879
<v Speaker 2>But there's millions of stories like that for even word,

0:48:40.880 --> 0:48:43.720
<v Speaker 2>even a Nipsey Hustle situation. Rest in peace. But remember

0:48:43.719 --> 0:48:46.920
<v Speaker 2>the guy that was just there and he got arrested.

0:48:47.200 --> 0:48:49.239
<v Speaker 2>Let him out be because it was so ridiculous, But

0:48:49.600 --> 0:48:51.920
<v Speaker 2>he literally got shot and he got arrested. He got

0:48:51.960 --> 0:48:55.080
<v Speaker 2>shot and got arrested because he was around felon. He's

0:48:55.080 --> 0:48:57.239
<v Speaker 2>in the presence of a felon h So it's like,

0:48:57.239 --> 0:48:58.759
<v Speaker 2>you know what I'm saying, It's like he's going to

0:48:58.800 --> 0:49:01.840
<v Speaker 2>get closed that Nipsey was supposed to have given him

0:49:02.080 --> 0:49:04.000
<v Speaker 2>because he just came home from during twenty years in

0:49:04.080 --> 0:49:06.880
<v Speaker 2>jail and he gets shot his first day home and

0:49:06.920 --> 0:49:09.799
<v Speaker 2>he gets incarcerated the same night. You know what I'm

0:49:09.800 --> 0:49:11.840
<v Speaker 2>saying just speaks to that, Like as far as the

0:49:11.880 --> 0:49:16.960
<v Speaker 2>criminal justice reformed, do you think that that that should

0:49:16.960 --> 0:49:18.719
<v Speaker 2>because I don't think that that's talked about enough as

0:49:18.760 --> 0:49:20.600
<v Speaker 2>far as the financial Do you think like that there

0:49:20.600 --> 0:49:22.600
<v Speaker 2>should be pressure on companies like I feel like no

0:49:22.640 --> 0:49:25.040
<v Speaker 2>company should be able to benefit from a prisoner like

0:49:25.080 --> 0:49:27.240
<v Speaker 2>that should be in a bill like you you can't

0:49:27.280 --> 0:49:28.919
<v Speaker 2>have prison labor like.

0:49:29.560 --> 0:49:33.680
<v Speaker 7>But you to say that it is to not understand

0:49:33.680 --> 0:49:36.720
<v Speaker 7>that that's what this country is built. We built on slavery.

0:49:36.760 --> 0:49:39.480
<v Speaker 7>They just figured out a new way to call it.

0:49:39.600 --> 0:49:43.920
<v Speaker 7>Like we came here, came here as work, as slaves.

0:49:45.400 --> 0:49:46.879
<v Speaker 7>We came here as slaves, and we.

0:49:46.800 --> 0:49:50.239
<v Speaker 5>Did all of the labor. You know, we were to

0:49:50.400 --> 0:49:50.920
<v Speaker 5>come out of it.

0:49:51.560 --> 0:49:54.360
<v Speaker 7>So they figured out when it ended, slavery just figured

0:49:54.400 --> 0:49:56.560
<v Speaker 7>out how do we continue to justify it. I put

0:49:56.600 --> 0:49:58.399
<v Speaker 7>it in my phone as the French up. They don't

0:49:58.400 --> 0:50:00.040
<v Speaker 7>call you slaves no more. They call you prim you

0:50:00.760 --> 0:50:04.439
<v Speaker 7>know what I'm saying. So now it's in the it's

0:50:04.480 --> 0:50:07.960
<v Speaker 7>in the constitution. Slavery is illegal or less when you

0:50:08.000 --> 0:50:13.400
<v Speaker 7>get arrested. So that means now they've legalize slavery. So

0:50:13.400 --> 0:50:16.800
<v Speaker 7>in order for the country to continue to it's built

0:50:16.840 --> 0:50:17.680
<v Speaker 7>on capitalism.

0:50:17.760 --> 0:50:19.240
<v Speaker 5>So capitalism has to flourish.

0:50:19.239 --> 0:50:22.120
<v Speaker 7>The reason why capitalism flourishes is because there has to

0:50:22.160 --> 0:50:25.640
<v Speaker 7>be a group of people that can just continue to

0:50:25.680 --> 0:50:28.280
<v Speaker 7>feed the upper edge of them in jail.

0:50:28.400 --> 0:50:30.800
<v Speaker 5>Is the way the lower class are gonna do crimes.

0:50:31.000 --> 0:50:34.920
<v Speaker 7>They're gonna die, they're gonna they're gonna spend all their money.

0:50:35.800 --> 0:50:38.359
<v Speaker 7>And and that is how the other people stay rich.

0:50:38.440 --> 0:50:41.319
<v Speaker 7>They figure out ways to continue to profit. They're not

0:50:41.360 --> 0:50:43.759
<v Speaker 7>gonna spend their money, so they figure out ways to

0:50:43.880 --> 0:50:44.920
<v Speaker 7>profit off of you.

0:50:45.480 --> 0:50:48.400
<v Speaker 5>So for them, for you to say they gonna.

0:50:48.160 --> 0:50:51.200
<v Speaker 7>Write in the Constitution if they can't make money the

0:50:51.239 --> 0:50:53.239
<v Speaker 7>way that they make money, it ain't that gonna make

0:50:53.320 --> 0:50:56.080
<v Speaker 7>sense to them. That's why they That's why when when

0:50:56.080 --> 0:50:58.680
<v Speaker 7>you hear that's why they try to get rid over.

0:50:58.680 --> 0:51:02.399
<v Speaker 7>But that's why they Immediately Barama was trying to end all.

0:51:03.560 --> 0:51:06.320
<v Speaker 7>Obama was trying to end all what you call. He

0:51:06.400 --> 0:51:08.960
<v Speaker 7>was trying to end the prisons. He was trying to

0:51:09.040 --> 0:51:12.440
<v Speaker 7>end private prisons. And when he when he they immediately

0:51:12.440 --> 0:51:14.600
<v Speaker 7>stopped at you know, see what I'm saying. He was trying

0:51:14.600 --> 0:51:17.279
<v Speaker 7>to end privates. Like now we stopped in that. You know,

0:51:17.520 --> 0:51:19.399
<v Speaker 7>that was his job, like we don't want no more

0:51:19.440 --> 0:51:23.680
<v Speaker 7>private prisons. Trump got board in office, private prison stopped

0:51:23.920 --> 0:51:26.279
<v Speaker 7>up because the goal was.

0:51:27.920 --> 0:51:29.359
<v Speaker 5>You know, what I'm saying. So even so.

0:51:29.320 --> 0:51:33.000
<v Speaker 7>When they do this prison reform, it's a strategy prison reform, Right, Okay,

0:51:33.000 --> 0:51:34.719
<v Speaker 7>we're gonna say, we're gonna let we're gonna let the

0:51:35.360 --> 0:51:39.320
<v Speaker 7>non violent prisoners out. We're gonna let people who got drugs,

0:51:39.520 --> 0:51:41.960
<v Speaker 7>We're gonna let them out warm. We're gonna make sure

0:51:41.960 --> 0:51:45.080
<v Speaker 7>that everybody who commits something that we call violence just

0:51:45.120 --> 0:51:45.919
<v Speaker 7>never comes home.

0:51:46.719 --> 0:51:47.920
<v Speaker 5>And we're gonna create.

0:51:47.719 --> 0:51:51.759
<v Speaker 7>Situations to where violence is inevitable, you know, saying so

0:51:51.760 --> 0:51:55.400
<v Speaker 7>we're gonna create. Now, we got a pandemic with we

0:51:55.600 --> 0:51:58.600
<v Speaker 7>know the communities in our communities is gonna be broken.

0:51:58.760 --> 0:52:00.480
<v Speaker 7>They're gonna be hit the hardest. It's gonna be a

0:52:00.480 --> 0:52:02.400
<v Speaker 7>couple of dudes they got it and others who don't.

0:52:02.880 --> 0:52:05.760
<v Speaker 7>So after this pandemic, it's gonna be a hot summer.

0:52:06.000 --> 0:52:10.600
<v Speaker 7>It's no activities, no clubs to go to. There's no parties,

0:52:10.640 --> 0:52:16.120
<v Speaker 7>there's no sports. You just outside in the heat all day. Kids,

0:52:16.160 --> 0:52:16.680
<v Speaker 7>is gonna get it.

0:52:17.719 --> 0:52:21.319
<v Speaker 5>The crime, the crime raid is gonna Scott Scott wide.

0:52:21.239 --> 0:52:23.640
<v Speaker 3>In New York City. They you know, they're getting rid

0:52:23.680 --> 0:52:26.080
<v Speaker 3>of Rock and Island. They're putting a prison on East Borough.

0:52:26.120 --> 0:52:26.880
<v Speaker 3>That's the proposal.

0:52:28.080 --> 0:52:28.640
<v Speaker 4>It's crazy.

0:52:28.680 --> 0:52:31.600
<v Speaker 3>It's crazy because I never hear about new schools being

0:52:31.600 --> 0:52:32.600
<v Speaker 3>built in these boroughs.

0:52:32.640 --> 0:52:35.239
<v Speaker 4>But that is a headline. Man. I mean, I know

0:52:35.280 --> 0:52:37.280
<v Speaker 4>you do work in the schools. What's your thoughts.

0:52:38.200 --> 0:52:40.439
<v Speaker 7>They don't build schools, you know what I'm saying. Most

0:52:40.440 --> 0:52:43.399
<v Speaker 7>of these schools is the school to prison plapeliners. Most

0:52:43.440 --> 0:52:45.960
<v Speaker 7>of these schools look like prisons. You know, I've been

0:52:46.000 --> 0:52:49.680
<v Speaker 7>in prison. Most of these schools are pretty much models

0:52:49.800 --> 0:52:51.960
<v Speaker 7>for for you preparing our kids from prison.

0:52:52.040 --> 0:52:53.200
<v Speaker 4>That's crazy. You said that.

0:52:53.560 --> 0:52:56.200
<v Speaker 3>I had It's crazy and he's don't remember the story.

0:52:56.480 --> 0:52:58.840
<v Speaker 3>When I was in the Bronx, I was teaching. I

0:52:58.920 --> 0:53:01.840
<v Speaker 3>had Shoty come speak for career day and soon he

0:53:01.880 --> 0:53:03.600
<v Speaker 3>went through the metal detector and say, Yo.

0:53:03.520 --> 0:53:04.920
<v Speaker 4>What the hell is this Like?

0:53:05.080 --> 0:53:07.640
<v Speaker 3>Literally, it looked like the forty seven precinct, like the

0:53:07.719 --> 0:53:11.960
<v Speaker 3>blue paint, the bars, the metal detectors, security walking around everywhere.

0:53:12.520 --> 0:53:15.280
<v Speaker 3>I was like, Yo, damn, this is real, Like people.

0:53:15.280 --> 0:53:17.400
<v Speaker 3>I don't think people really understand that that school to

0:53:17.440 --> 0:53:21.920
<v Speaker 3>prison pipeline suspending kids, not providing them with adequate education,

0:53:22.120 --> 0:53:24.920
<v Speaker 3>so they're more likely to not even go to school,

0:53:25.640 --> 0:53:27.600
<v Speaker 3>so they're back on the streets and what's gonna happen.

0:53:27.640 --> 0:53:28.640
<v Speaker 4>They gonna feed the beasts.

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<v Speaker 5>Man, that's the reality.

0:53:30.760 --> 0:53:33.480
<v Speaker 7>That's what is important that they see people like you

0:53:33.560 --> 0:53:35.600
<v Speaker 7>and meet in these schools because we.

0:53:35.520 --> 0:53:37.320
<v Speaker 5>Are able to identify with that reality.

0:53:37.320 --> 0:53:40.319
<v Speaker 7>We are able to identify with the fact that you're young,

0:53:40.440 --> 0:53:43.160
<v Speaker 7>you're energetic, you don't really see the need in school.

0:53:43.239 --> 0:53:45.960
<v Speaker 7>You fidgety, you want to see girls, you want money,

0:53:45.960 --> 0:53:48.160
<v Speaker 7>and we able to redirect that. We able to make

0:53:48.440 --> 0:53:52.239
<v Speaker 7>these classrooms comfortable and fun enough to where the average.

0:53:51.960 --> 0:53:52.879
<v Speaker 5>Person don't want to come.

0:53:53.040 --> 0:53:55.200
<v Speaker 7>I'm gonna go there because oh, he gonna be there,

0:53:55.239 --> 0:53:57.239
<v Speaker 7>and that's my cool teacher. Let me go to make

0:53:57.239 --> 0:53:58.399
<v Speaker 7>sure I bought this class you.

0:53:58.320 --> 0:53:58.959
<v Speaker 5>Know, see what I'm saying.

0:53:59.120 --> 0:54:03.640
<v Speaker 7>We saw create institutions that reflect what our culture is.

0:54:03.680 --> 0:54:05.520
<v Speaker 7>We don't learn the same way everybody else. We don't

0:54:05.520 --> 0:54:08.160
<v Speaker 7>want to sit at the desk and look at chalkboarding

0:54:08.239 --> 0:54:10.200
<v Speaker 7>right now. We want to be moving around, We want

0:54:10.200 --> 0:54:14.400
<v Speaker 7>to have activities. If we created institutions that taught us

0:54:14.400 --> 0:54:16.719
<v Speaker 7>the way that we learn based on act, That's one

0:54:16.719 --> 0:54:19.399
<v Speaker 7>of the things that that that Kanye was saying when

0:54:19.440 --> 0:54:21.440
<v Speaker 7>he did that that meeting with Trump, and he was

0:54:21.440 --> 0:54:23.200
<v Speaker 7>sitting and he's like, Yo, what if we had schools

0:54:23.239 --> 0:54:25.400
<v Speaker 7>where they learned through basketball, When they taught you through that,

0:54:25.960 --> 0:54:28.520
<v Speaker 7>you would schools would be more fun, it would be

0:54:28.600 --> 0:54:31.640
<v Speaker 7>appealing to us. That's how we They created a whole

0:54:31.760 --> 0:54:36.000
<v Speaker 7>structure that fits how Europeans learn and told us we

0:54:36.080 --> 0:54:38.840
<v Speaker 7>have to acclimate to that. That's not who we are.

0:54:38.880 --> 0:54:41.280
<v Speaker 7>Like you, if you create a school and you create

0:54:41.320 --> 0:54:44.880
<v Speaker 7>a structure that's for us, by us that we understand

0:54:44.880 --> 0:54:47.480
<v Speaker 7>how to teach us, we understand you know the best

0:54:47.600 --> 0:54:50.480
<v Speaker 7>to appeal to the attributes to each individual.

0:54:50.880 --> 0:54:54.320
<v Speaker 5>You know what I'm saying, you would see higher levels

0:54:54.320 --> 0:54:55.120
<v Speaker 5>of people going.

0:54:54.920 --> 0:54:57.279
<v Speaker 7>To school and the school instead they create some ship

0:54:57.360 --> 0:54:59.480
<v Speaker 7>that they know that we a it's not for us.

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<v Speaker 3>It's tough because, like I said, man, education is important,

0:55:02.680 --> 0:55:06.040
<v Speaker 3>but a lot of people, especially in our community, don't

0:55:06.040 --> 0:55:09.360
<v Speaker 3>aspire to be in education. They don't aspire to be teachers.

0:55:09.440 --> 0:55:11.480
<v Speaker 3>It's not enough money, you know what I'm saying. Like

0:55:11.520 --> 0:55:12.880
<v Speaker 3>we grow up, it's like y'all want I want to

0:55:12.920 --> 0:55:14.359
<v Speaker 3>be this, I want to be a rapper. I want

0:55:14.360 --> 0:55:18.000
<v Speaker 3>to Nobody aspires to be in education when everybody that

0:55:18.080 --> 0:55:20.279
<v Speaker 3>you talk to has started there, you know what I mean.

0:55:20.320 --> 0:55:22.200
<v Speaker 3>So it's important like you said, for you to be

0:55:22.280 --> 0:55:25.160
<v Speaker 3>in schools myself, Shotty, coming into schools is support because

0:55:25.160 --> 0:55:28.080
<v Speaker 3>the representation they may not see you again, they may

0:55:28.120 --> 0:55:29.840
<v Speaker 3>not see like for one time.

0:55:29.760 --> 0:55:32.239
<v Speaker 4>Only they may see you and say like, wait, I

0:55:32.280 --> 0:55:35.400
<v Speaker 4>could be that. I mean that is super important.

0:55:35.880 --> 0:55:36.719
<v Speaker 5>You can see it to be.

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<v Speaker 2>So we talked about the economics of prison, but that's

0:55:40.840 --> 0:55:42.839
<v Speaker 2>only half of the conversation because even when you come out,

0:55:42.880 --> 0:55:45.279
<v Speaker 2>there's a whole economic play behind that. Right, it's like

0:55:45.760 --> 0:55:48.719
<v Speaker 2>being in a halfway house and they get paid per

0:55:48.719 --> 0:55:51.319
<v Speaker 2>bed and then it's like you got to give a

0:55:51.320 --> 0:55:54.719
<v Speaker 2>portion of your paycheck back to the state. And I

0:55:54.760 --> 0:55:57.120
<v Speaker 2>know you had a program helping people out with their credit,

0:55:57.320 --> 0:55:58.719
<v Speaker 2>because it's the whole thing. Like when you come out

0:55:58.760 --> 0:56:02.880
<v Speaker 2>of jail, you don't have a license, you don't passport credit,

0:56:03.200 --> 0:56:05.440
<v Speaker 2>you don't have any credit history, you can't rent an apartment.

0:56:05.800 --> 0:56:08.719
<v Speaker 2>So now it's like you can't get a job a

0:56:08.760 --> 0:56:10.839
<v Speaker 2>lot of times, especially if you have a felony. So

0:56:11.160 --> 0:56:13.640
<v Speaker 2>the economic is not like, Okay, you just did a

0:56:13.680 --> 0:56:16.759
<v Speaker 2>few years in jail, now you're back to being normal. Now,

0:56:16.840 --> 0:56:20.719
<v Speaker 2>it's the whole economic play off of that, And it's like,

0:56:20.760 --> 0:56:23.440
<v Speaker 2>so can you talk about that, like getting out of jail.

0:56:24.080 --> 0:56:26.360
<v Speaker 2>How's that process as far as, like I said, like

0:56:26.400 --> 0:56:30.360
<v Speaker 2>building your credit and stuff like that.

0:56:29.200 --> 0:56:31.080
<v Speaker 7>That process is if you don't if you're not in

0:56:31.120 --> 0:56:34.880
<v Speaker 7>the know, you don't have around you that can educate you.

0:56:34.880 --> 0:56:36.880
<v Speaker 7>You know, especially right now, we understand that if you

0:56:36.880 --> 0:56:38.360
<v Speaker 7>don't have credits, you don't have nothing.

0:56:38.840 --> 0:56:39.040
<v Speaker 5>You know.

0:56:39.120 --> 0:56:40.719
<v Speaker 7>So a lot of these dudes coming home and into

0:56:40.840 --> 0:56:43.719
<v Speaker 7>more money, and they got cash getting them with cash,

0:56:43.760 --> 0:56:46.440
<v Speaker 7>you can't get an apartment, you can't do anything, you know,

0:56:46.520 --> 0:56:50.080
<v Speaker 7>So that transition is is different. Especially it depends on

0:56:50.120 --> 0:56:52.239
<v Speaker 7>when you how long have you been in prison. This

0:56:52.360 --> 0:56:54.680
<v Speaker 7>dude's just coming home now and been in jail twenty

0:56:55.040 --> 0:56:58.000
<v Speaker 7>twenty five years, you know, so they trying to figure out,

0:56:58.400 --> 0:56:59.439
<v Speaker 7>like what do we do next?

0:56:59.440 --> 0:57:02.040
<v Speaker 5>How we do this? In that process is slow, it's

0:57:02.080 --> 0:57:02.720
<v Speaker 5>it's different.

0:57:03.160 --> 0:57:03.400
<v Speaker 6>You know.

0:57:03.880 --> 0:57:06.360
<v Speaker 7>I was blessed enough to have people to put me

0:57:06.760 --> 0:57:08.520
<v Speaker 7>to see, hell, we're gonna get your cell phone, and

0:57:09.160 --> 0:57:10.960
<v Speaker 7>you gotta do this, you know, because when I when

0:57:11.000 --> 0:57:13.400
<v Speaker 7>I left there, I barely had a cell phone. I

0:57:13.400 --> 0:57:15.560
<v Speaker 7>had one of the first cell phones and in the

0:57:16.600 --> 0:57:20.120
<v Speaker 7>two way, so it.

0:57:20.000 --> 0:57:21.600
<v Speaker 5>Wasn't it was. It was way different.

0:57:21.680 --> 0:57:23.320
<v Speaker 7>So when I came home and it was you know,

0:57:23.840 --> 0:57:26.800
<v Speaker 7>cell phone, and we had to get an Instagram and

0:57:27.040 --> 0:57:30.920
<v Speaker 7>I had to get what was it my Space? I

0:57:30.960 --> 0:57:35.320
<v Speaker 7>came home with my Space. I was blessed enough to

0:57:35.360 --> 0:57:36.120
<v Speaker 7>have people that.

0:57:36.080 --> 0:57:36.760
<v Speaker 5>Put you any thing.

0:57:36.880 --> 0:57:41.520
<v Speaker 7>So it's it's a lot to readjust yourself to in prison,

0:57:41.840 --> 0:57:44.720
<v Speaker 7>and a lot of times people don't, and they become

0:57:44.800 --> 0:57:50.920
<v Speaker 7>institutionalized because it's easier to live in prison because they

0:57:51.480 --> 0:57:53.280
<v Speaker 7>can do things for you.

0:57:53.280 --> 0:57:56.800
<v Speaker 5>You get three miles. All you gotta do is we

0:57:57.000 --> 0:57:57.880
<v Speaker 5>state greens.

0:57:58.800 --> 0:58:02.440
<v Speaker 7>You know, if you're a person who don't have no family,

0:58:02.480 --> 0:58:06.360
<v Speaker 7>no nothing, they don't have no support system, then it's easier.

0:58:06.480 --> 0:58:08.920
<v Speaker 7>Or even if it's not easier, you you don't mind

0:58:08.960 --> 0:58:11.720
<v Speaker 7>going to prison. You're like, I'm gonna go home. I'm

0:58:11.720 --> 0:58:14.720
<v Speaker 7>gonna throw a brick. I'm robbing this. Either'm gonna get

0:58:14.760 --> 0:58:16.520
<v Speaker 7>a million. If not, then I'm just gonna come back here.

0:58:16.520 --> 0:58:18.640
<v Speaker 7>I know I'm good here, I'm gonna get three meals

0:58:18.680 --> 0:58:19.720
<v Speaker 7>and I'm just gonna be chilling.

0:58:20.080 --> 0:58:22.840
<v Speaker 5>And you know how to I know the CEO's here.

0:58:23.000 --> 0:58:26.120
<v Speaker 7>My name is heavy into jail like some people have,

0:58:26.320 --> 0:58:29.600
<v Speaker 7>that's become their life and they institutionalize and they can't

0:58:29.640 --> 0:58:34.160
<v Speaker 7>survive outside because it's not it's moving too fast, or

0:58:34.160 --> 0:58:36.080
<v Speaker 7>they don't know how to adjust, they don't have nobody

0:58:36.080 --> 0:58:38.520
<v Speaker 7>to help them adjust, and they realize that, you know.

0:58:38.600 --> 0:58:40.880
<v Speaker 5>So that's what they call people being institutionalized.

0:58:40.880 --> 0:58:42.920
<v Speaker 7>You see a lot of dudes that come out you

0:58:42.960 --> 0:58:44.440
<v Speaker 7>probably know them, that they'd be out.

0:58:44.240 --> 0:58:45.720
<v Speaker 5>For a week or two and you be like, damn this,

0:58:45.760 --> 0:58:47.080
<v Speaker 5>they're going back to jail again.

0:58:47.800 --> 0:58:50.920
<v Speaker 8>Yeah, it's like and it's like what he did, like

0:58:51.000 --> 0:58:54.160
<v Speaker 8>howie And you don't get it, but he he got

0:58:54.200 --> 0:58:57.120
<v Speaker 8>in his mind that he can't survive out here, you

0:58:57.200 --> 0:58:59.400
<v Speaker 8>know what I'm saying, rather than say that he just

0:58:59.400 --> 0:59:04.320
<v Speaker 8>gonna do something that's so outlanded and then go to jail,

0:59:05.200 --> 0:59:05.400
<v Speaker 8>you know.

0:59:05.560 --> 0:59:07.320
<v Speaker 5>And and and that's what it creates.

0:59:08.800 --> 0:59:11.160
<v Speaker 2>So you know, I wanted to have this conversation to

0:59:11.240 --> 0:59:13.640
<v Speaker 2>raise awareness, but we never want to leave anything on

0:59:13.680 --> 0:59:14.479
<v Speaker 2>a damp or note.

0:59:14.560 --> 0:59:16.160
<v Speaker 6>So what is there?

0:59:16.680 --> 0:59:18.320
<v Speaker 2>Because the whole point of what you're doing as far

0:59:18.360 --> 0:59:25.040
<v Speaker 2>as activist is to create change, right So now it's

0:59:25.080 --> 0:59:26.840
<v Speaker 2>like the first part I think for people to be

0:59:26.920 --> 0:59:29.680
<v Speaker 2>inspired to make change is to actually be aware of

0:59:29.680 --> 0:59:31.240
<v Speaker 2>what's going on, because a lot of people just are

0:59:31.400 --> 0:59:33.840
<v Speaker 2>are ignorant to that fact. And not ignorant in a

0:59:33.880 --> 0:59:36.080
<v Speaker 2>bad way. They just don't know, right, and and that's

0:59:36.200 --> 0:59:37.960
<v Speaker 2>really a good thing. It's like, you know, you shouldn't

0:59:37.960 --> 0:59:40.080
<v Speaker 2>know what jail is like hopefully you don't. You never

0:59:40.120 --> 0:59:43.440
<v Speaker 2>have to go to jail. But it's like now hopefully

0:59:43.440 --> 0:59:49.560
<v Speaker 2>people are a little bit more educated on what's going on. So, yeah,

0:59:49.600 --> 0:59:52.080
<v Speaker 2>so what is some in your opinion, what are some

0:59:52.120 --> 0:59:55.240
<v Speaker 2>solutions that we of course there's a political solution where

0:59:55.520 --> 0:59:58.960
<v Speaker 2>you know, there's different ideas in place to like take

0:59:59.000 --> 1:00:05.640
<v Speaker 2>the fel and thing awful job application and yeah, so

1:00:06.120 --> 1:00:08.840
<v Speaker 2>how can the average person or how can as a

1:00:08.880 --> 1:00:11.439
<v Speaker 2>community or as a country as a world make this

1:00:11.440 --> 1:00:13.960
<v Speaker 2>thing better? Is it through political action? Is it through

1:00:14.120 --> 1:00:16.160
<v Speaker 2>like what's what's what's some of the avenues?

1:00:16.960 --> 1:00:19.440
<v Speaker 7>There's so many different avenues. I want to shout out

1:00:19.480 --> 1:00:23.440
<v Speaker 7>my brother Jay Jordan. He lives in California and he

1:00:23.560 --> 1:00:25.360
<v Speaker 7>started a program called Tim Done.

1:00:26.680 --> 1:00:27.480
<v Speaker 4>We know Jay Jordan.

1:00:27.680 --> 1:00:31.920
<v Speaker 6>We spoke to him and watch watch Yeah yeah, yeah,

1:00:31.920 --> 1:00:32.760
<v Speaker 6>we spoke to him.

1:00:33.040 --> 1:00:37.040
<v Speaker 7>Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, you know what I'm saying, Jays

1:00:37.360 --> 1:00:39.560
<v Speaker 7>he's out there doing the Times Done. Like the last

1:00:39.560 --> 1:00:42.360
<v Speaker 7>time I was with Nipsey, we did a concert with

1:00:42.520 --> 1:00:43.200
<v Speaker 7>Times Done.

1:00:43.600 --> 1:00:44.760
<v Speaker 5>That Jay had put together.

1:00:44.880 --> 1:00:46.720
<v Speaker 7>You know, it was probably like four or five months

1:00:46.720 --> 1:00:50.560
<v Speaker 7>before Nipsey passed away. And so anyway, he's doing the

1:00:50.600 --> 1:00:55.720
<v Speaker 7>times in concert I mean Time Done initiative where basically,

1:00:56.080 --> 1:00:58.360
<v Speaker 7>after you serve your time, after.

1:00:58.160 --> 1:01:01.320
<v Speaker 5>A certain amount of time, you.

1:01:01.320 --> 1:01:04.880
<v Speaker 7>Get to get your your your record a sponge, you know,

1:01:05.440 --> 1:01:06.560
<v Speaker 7>completely exponge.

1:01:06.600 --> 1:01:09.760
<v Speaker 5>Because what happens just the stigma of being a felon.

1:01:11.240 --> 1:01:13.680
<v Speaker 5>You know you can it's over. It says over three

1:01:13.760 --> 1:01:15.520
<v Speaker 5>thousand jobs that you can't have.

1:01:15.600 --> 1:01:19.000
<v Speaker 7>It's like a letter yea, you know the things jobs.

1:01:19.000 --> 1:01:22.200
<v Speaker 7>You can't be a barber, you can't be a dog walker,

1:01:22.920 --> 1:01:25.200
<v Speaker 7>you can't be a babies, like certain certain things you

1:01:25.280 --> 1:01:27.520
<v Speaker 7>just can't be at all if you if you if

1:01:27.520 --> 1:01:31.520
<v Speaker 7>you have a you know, a felony. So he's working

1:01:31.560 --> 1:01:33.680
<v Speaker 7>to get those. I think they're pat They're about to

1:01:33.680 --> 1:01:38.600
<v Speaker 7>pass it in California, and like initiatives like that, we

1:01:38.720 --> 1:01:40.440
<v Speaker 7>have to support those type of initiatives.

1:01:40.560 --> 1:01:42.400
<v Speaker 5>We got to look at those, bring them over here.

1:01:42.720 --> 1:01:45.640
<v Speaker 5>We also have to we have to as.

1:01:45.520 --> 1:01:49.280
<v Speaker 7>Individuals stop stigmatizing each other. You know what I'm saying,

1:01:49.320 --> 1:01:51.880
<v Speaker 7>because it's easy, you know, like even when I'm watching

1:01:51.920 --> 1:01:57.400
<v Speaker 7>this a ma Aubrey case, right, And it's it's people

1:01:58.720 --> 1:02:02.720
<v Speaker 7>that where we come from. It's like that trying to

1:02:02.920 --> 1:02:06.160
<v Speaker 7>justify this man being killed. Like I've heard people like,

1:02:06.160 --> 1:02:09.640
<v Speaker 7>well he shooted did this? Or or he walked into

1:02:09.680 --> 1:02:12.920
<v Speaker 7>this abandoned house. Oh that's what so you telling me

1:02:12.920 --> 1:02:15.040
<v Speaker 7>me walking into a house where they do a construction

1:02:15.640 --> 1:02:18.920
<v Speaker 7>justifies you killing me like that that makes sense to you?

1:02:18.960 --> 1:02:21.400
<v Speaker 7>Oh well, what was he doing? It don't matter if you.

1:02:21.320 --> 1:02:24.320
<v Speaker 5>Thought he was trespassing, Give him a ticket for trespassing.

1:02:24.720 --> 1:02:27.520
<v Speaker 7>But what is this man the right to approach him

1:02:27.520 --> 1:02:29.520
<v Speaker 7>with a gun and and and shoot him?

1:02:29.520 --> 1:02:32.240
<v Speaker 5>And they said he wasn't he wouldn't comply. We who

1:02:32.240 --> 1:02:32.680
<v Speaker 5>are you to.

1:02:34.640 --> 1:02:36.960
<v Speaker 3>A random person driving down the street with a shotgun

1:02:36.960 --> 1:02:37.480
<v Speaker 3>pointed at me?

1:02:39.640 --> 1:02:41.080
<v Speaker 5>And I'm st to comply to you?

1:02:41.520 --> 1:02:44.880
<v Speaker 7>Like this is the mindset and us as if some

1:02:44.960 --> 1:02:48.320
<v Speaker 7>of us have adopted it. We're dealing with, you know,

1:02:48.360 --> 1:02:52.160
<v Speaker 7>we're dealing with Stockholm syndrome, in which we start to

1:02:52.400 --> 1:02:54.960
<v Speaker 7>identify and love the people.

1:02:54.720 --> 1:02:56.000
<v Speaker 5>Who oppressident.

1:02:56.960 --> 1:02:59.760
<v Speaker 7>We had to stop that, like we we can't get

1:02:59.800 --> 1:03:02.720
<v Speaker 7>bored or credits the ship that don't make sense like

1:03:02.800 --> 1:03:05.720
<v Speaker 7>you can't when we when we saying yo, it's a

1:03:05.760 --> 1:03:09.120
<v Speaker 7>million people in prison, and in prison is probably the

1:03:09.120 --> 1:03:12.640
<v Speaker 7>biggest population that can be effected from the coronavirus, and

1:03:12.640 --> 1:03:14.560
<v Speaker 7>they can die easier to anybody because she's like a

1:03:14.640 --> 1:03:15.280
<v Speaker 7>Petri dish.

1:03:15.680 --> 1:03:18.160
<v Speaker 5>You know, understand that. And people I don't care they

1:03:18.160 --> 1:03:18.640
<v Speaker 5>did a crime.

1:03:18.720 --> 1:03:21.240
<v Speaker 7>You don't know what nobody did that's in prison and

1:03:21.400 --> 1:03:24.200
<v Speaker 7>they're not saying to death. Why would you be okay

1:03:24.320 --> 1:03:28.440
<v Speaker 7>with just sacrificing those people lives, their fathers, they husbands,

1:03:28.440 --> 1:03:31.880
<v Speaker 7>they brothers to people like, we have to start humanizing

1:03:31.920 --> 1:03:35.120
<v Speaker 7>people who get incarcerated, because some people get in cans

1:03:35.240 --> 1:03:37.680
<v Speaker 7>ready to come home and they do brilliant things. Some

1:03:37.680 --> 1:03:40.560
<v Speaker 7>people don't even belong in prison. Every day we find

1:03:40.560 --> 1:03:42.560
<v Speaker 7>out that somebody's conviction is overturned.

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<v Speaker 5>So we have to take.

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<v Speaker 7>That stigma and that that false narrative that everybody that's

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<v Speaker 7>inside of prison is just trash.

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<v Speaker 2>And the reality is that the vast majority of people

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<v Speaker 2>have has done something that at some point, big or small,

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<v Speaker 2>you've done something in your life where if a cop

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<v Speaker 2>was there and if write circumstances, you could have potentially

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<v Speaker 2>been in jail.

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<v Speaker 3>And I was gonna say, this is a living testament,

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<v Speaker 3>Like we've had a number of guests ONALSIA that have

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<v Speaker 3>been incarcerated and have come out to do amazing things,

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<v Speaker 3>you know what I mean. So that's that's what the

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<v Speaker 3>importance of this is. Like what we said earlier is like, Yo,

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<v Speaker 3>we got to see it and we got to keep

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<v Speaker 3>highlighting stories like that.

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<v Speaker 4>So everybody that's.

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<v Speaker 3>Been in that situation or cans had somebody that is

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<v Speaker 3>near that situation. It's like, Yo, no, it's not over,

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<v Speaker 3>but there's plenty of opportunities out here for us.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>I taught a financial literacy class in jail. Shout out

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<v Speaker 2>to Tony Earl, My god. He you know, Tony's a

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<v Speaker 2>good dude. He had a jail a program in Rockland

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<v Speaker 2>County and I taught. And that was my first time

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<v Speaker 2>teaching financial literacy and jail teaching in school and stuff

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<v Speaker 2>like that, and I was pleasantly surprised. It was one

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<v Speaker 2>of the best experiences I had. Like they was all

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<v Speaker 2>asking me questions, like they was like really paying attention.

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<v Speaker 6>They was really stupid.

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<v Speaker 2>A lot of them really knew a lot in regardless

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<v Speaker 2>stocks and cryptocurrency, like they were doing it like you

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<v Speaker 2>know what I'm saying, So I say, I have to

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<v Speaker 2>say it's like, don't look down on somebody just because

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<v Speaker 2>they're incarcerated, because everybody has an opportunity to change their life.

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<v Speaker 2>You don't know what they're incarcerated for, and regardless of anything,

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<v Speaker 2>is like, the whole point of being a human is

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<v Speaker 2>to be a better person tomorrow than you were today,

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<v Speaker 2>So we can't judge people. And yeah, it's like we

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<v Speaker 2>can't give up on people because you're giving up on

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<v Speaker 2>millions of people that can be doctors, scientists, lawyers, like

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<v Speaker 2>they can change the world. And it's like you said,

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<v Speaker 2>it's our best potential because we see that on earn

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<v Speaker 2>your liege, a lot of a lot of from Caesar

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<v Speaker 2>djmv's partner, he's a real estate mobile and he was incarcerated,

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<v Speaker 2>and it's like, you know, that's just one of many

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<v Speaker 2>people that we've had on. Some of the most brilliant

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<v Speaker 2>people that we've had on have criminal backgrounds. So you know,

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<v Speaker 2>it's important to highlight this and to really you know,

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<v Speaker 2>even if it doesn't affect you, it affects you one

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<v Speaker 2>way or another. You have a family member, you have

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<v Speaker 2>somebody in your community that you know personally.

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<v Speaker 6>Everybody does. It's just it's impossible not to so mice, man.

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<v Speaker 2>Appreciate I appreciate you taking your time out to kick

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<v Speaker 2>it with us. Like I said, you know something that

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<v Speaker 2>we wanted to do for a while. So I'm glad that.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm glad we had an opportunity to talk about this.

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<v Speaker 5>I'm glad to have it. Man, this is a dope conversation,

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<v Speaker 5>good energy. Man. Hopefully somebody hear this and take heed

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<v Speaker 5>to this.

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<v Speaker 7>Man. Understand that we're all human, man, you know, we

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<v Speaker 7>all go to ups and downs. You make mistakes, sometimes

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<v Speaker 7>you make the wrong term. Some of us are blessed enough.

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<v Speaker 7>You know that our mistakes didn't turn out to be tragic.

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<v Speaker 7>They didn't land us in prison, you know, so we

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<v Speaker 7>should be we should be blessed for that and try

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<v Speaker 7>to pay it forward, you know, because understanding that we

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<v Speaker 7>could at some point, we probably could have ended up

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<v Speaker 7>on the opposite. So, you know, don't look down on

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<v Speaker 7>your brothers. Man, give him a hand, lift them up.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>Prayers up to everybody that that's incarcerated, family, friends, brothers

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<v Speaker 3>and sisters that are fighting coronavirus inside of prison. That's

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<v Speaker 3>a real situation that I don't think people really understand. Right,

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<v Speaker 3>we were on the outside like complain like, Yo, we

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<v Speaker 3>can't go and we can't leave a house. But we're

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<v Speaker 3>talking about a place where it's overcrowded already. There's no

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<v Speaker 3>way to social distances. It's a real situation. So prayers

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<v Speaker 3>up to everybody that is fighting that and facing that

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<v Speaker 3>right now.

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<v Speaker 2>I was watching CNBC yesterday and they said they were saying,

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<v Speaker 2>like some of the prisons, like the population, how muchy

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<v Speaker 2>people have crazy marrying Marrying Indiana and that's like a

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<v Speaker 2>real well known prison. I think it's like underground. Eighty

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<v Speaker 2>five percent of the prison population has Corona.

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<v Speaker 3>In Texas, same thing, they tested twenty four hundred inmates,

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<v Speaker 3>seventy five percent tested positive.

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<v Speaker 6>It's that's that's crazy crazy.

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<v Speaker 2>And obviously there's underlying health issues with people that are

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<v Speaker 2>incarcerated and a lot of people probably gonna die health issues.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, the fact that it is not come for oxygen, right,

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<v Speaker 5>I don't understanding.

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<v Speaker 7>If you look, you look at the numbers from the

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<v Speaker 7>coronavirus and you're looking with most of the people, the

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<v Speaker 7>mortality rate is highest in places where people are inside

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<v Speaker 7>looking own folks homes and things like that, where people

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<v Speaker 7>are trapped inside oka when you look at a prison,

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<v Speaker 7>that's it's nothing else. You inhaling the same ears. Somebody's

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<v Speaker 7>breathing all day. It's not like no frushating windows.

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<v Speaker 2>Nowhere, same shower, shame toilet, like public space. It's like

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<v Speaker 2>eighty five percent of the population and that person has

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<v Speaker 2>corona Like that Really surprised.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm like, wow, that's how do you how do you

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<v Speaker 3>stop one hundred percent from getting it? And it doesn't

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<v Speaker 3>just stop with the prisoners, because you have CEOs that

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<v Speaker 3>are in the prison that go home to their families

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<v Speaker 3>that now bring it, you know what I'm saying.

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<v Speaker 4>So it's like a real situation.

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<v Speaker 3>I don'tly think people are fully grasping the magnitude of.

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<v Speaker 6>Out Yeah, it's an issue.

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<v Speaker 2>But anything you want to make the public aware of,

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<v Speaker 2>any initiatives you got going on, any music too.

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<v Speaker 6>We ain't get a chance to talk about music, but

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<v Speaker 6>I know you still you still spar still.

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<v Speaker 2>We didn't get a heare to talk about that, But

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<v Speaker 2>any projects that you're working on, anything you want to

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<v Speaker 2>make the public.

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<v Speaker 7>Well, my project been out for a couple of months.

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<v Speaker 7>I did so now for sales. Probably my favorite mixtape

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<v Speaker 7>that I did in a long time. So I would

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<v Speaker 7>advise you to go download. I just wrote this new

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<v Speaker 7>on what we were talking about now it's talking about

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<v Speaker 7>the Bill Rights. I broke down the first ten amendments

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<v Speaker 7>of the Bill of Rights, and you know too for

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<v Speaker 7>children from like age eight unto high schools. It's really

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<v Speaker 7>a family orientated book. A lot of adults read it

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<v Speaker 7>and say that I broke down the amendments to them

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<v Speaker 7>because they didn't even really understand them. So it's a

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<v Speaker 7>book that, you know, shout out to McBride Publishing for partnering.

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<v Speaker 5>What we were with the book is so dope.

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<v Speaker 7>Where can we purchase You could purchase it on Amazon

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<v Speaker 7>and had so many different like the animation on it

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<v Speaker 7>is like fire Right, the whole animation of it, and

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<v Speaker 7>it's just like like I took pictures of my kids.

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<v Speaker 5>This is like one of my sons. They took they

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<v Speaker 7>my son, this is my son, and this is my son.

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<v Speaker 7>So like you know what I'm saying, I try to

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<v Speaker 7>I'm saying.

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