WEBVTT - How Does A Laser Work?

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<v Speaker 1>Hey, Daniel, let's talk about acronyms. Acronyms are actually a

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<v Speaker 1>really really important part of science. Whenever you have a

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<v Speaker 1>good idea, you have to come up with an acronym

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<v Speaker 1>or it's not going to be catchy. Well, I heard

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<v Speaker 1>there have been some pretty unfortunate acronyms in the history

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<v Speaker 1>of science. There are I googled for worst acronyms ever,

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<v Speaker 1>and I came up with some that you gotta wonder,

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<v Speaker 1>like people must have known what was going on, you know. So, um,

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<v Speaker 1>one of my favorites is Phase one Observing Proposal System.

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<v Speaker 1>So for those of you filing along at home, that's

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<v Speaker 1>p O O P S. So yeah, you can put

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<v Speaker 1>that together yourself. But but I heard that one day

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<v Speaker 1>actually grabbed the y from system, like they consciously made

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<v Speaker 1>the choice not to be called poops but to be

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<v Speaker 1>called poop. See, well, there is one acronym that's a

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<v Speaker 1>famous acronym for a physics topic. But I think we

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<v Speaker 1>think maybe most people don't even know it's an acronym. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>And maybe that means it's really successful, right, because it's

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<v Speaker 1>become a word in its own right. You know, people

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<v Speaker 1>actually use the word yeah, and that word is laser

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<v Speaker 1>camp to do. So, do you know what it stands for? Horror? Hey,

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<v Speaker 1>don't look it up. Do you know what it stands for?

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<v Speaker 1>Test NERD CREB test, I do it. It stands for

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<v Speaker 1>UM light amplification through stimulated emission radiation. Being we have

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<v Speaker 1>a winner, folks, give him a laser. But I heard

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<v Speaker 1>that the acron could have been different. It could have

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<v Speaker 1>been light oscillation by stimulated emission radiation. That's right, And

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think that one would have caught on quite

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<v Speaker 1>as well. That would be l o s E er

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<v Speaker 1>has some obvious disadvantages. You don't want to be a

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<v Speaker 1>loser scientist. That would be That would be obvious him

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<v Speaker 1>and I'm Daniel, and welcome to our podcast Daniel and

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<v Speaker 1>Jorge Explain the Universe, in which we talk about all

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<v Speaker 1>kinds of cool things about the universe. Yeah, and we

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<v Speaker 1>take the universe apart, we disassemble its acronyms, and we

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<v Speaker 1>tell you what it actually means. All the cool things

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<v Speaker 1>you see in science fiction movies, books, laser guns, stuff

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<v Speaker 1>like that. We break it down and make sense of

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<v Speaker 1>it for you. So, if you have ideas for what

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<v Speaker 1>you'd like us to talk about, send them into feedback

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<v Speaker 1>at Daniel and Jorge dot com. We love hearing your

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<v Speaker 1>topic suggestions. Today on the program, we're going to be

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<v Speaker 1>talking about lasers, lasers. How does a laser work? What

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<v Speaker 1>is a laser? Who came up with a laser? Where

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<v Speaker 1>can I at my laser death ray? These are important questions.

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<v Speaker 1>How can I make it my living to laz about?

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<v Speaker 1>Here a cartoonist, you're already laser by which I mean

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<v Speaker 1>you are brilliant and cutting. That's right, and very um focused,

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<v Speaker 1>very focused exactly. So, Yeah, lasers are. Lasers are awesome.

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<v Speaker 1>Everyone knows what a laser is. My kids know what

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<v Speaker 1>lasers are. Yeah, I mean they're they're in science fiction everywhere. Um,

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<v Speaker 1>people have laser pens, right, lasers there. You probably have

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<v Speaker 1>dozens of lasers in your house, right, Lasers used for everything? Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>they're in our everyday lives. Like every time you go

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<v Speaker 1>buy something at a store. Assume you still go to

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<v Speaker 1>physical store. But if they scan your product in they're

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<v Speaker 1>using a laser, that's right. And if you still have

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<v Speaker 1>a CD player, that thing is read by a laser.

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<v Speaker 1>A CD what you're too young to understand those things?

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<v Speaker 1>For he For those of you under forty we used

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<v Speaker 1>to store music on these shiny little disks. Yeah, they'd

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<v Speaker 1>use lasers. So they were literally everywhere. I mean, there

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<v Speaker 1>are optical drives, right, anything that reads the disc. So

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<v Speaker 1>if you pop in a disk to your PlayStation, that's

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<v Speaker 1>using a laser in there, that's right. And lasers have

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<v Speaker 1>an enormous variety of applications, you know, from tiny laser

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<v Speaker 1>pointers to world size lasers that people are experimenting with

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<v Speaker 1>to try to deflect asteroids that might blow up the Earth. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>like in the Dead Star and in Star Wars, right,

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<v Speaker 1>that's right. Those that's the fiction, of course, But the

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<v Speaker 1>group building a laser to disflect asteroids, that's real. They

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<v Speaker 1>might save the planet. They might save the planet exactly.

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<v Speaker 1>So lasers are everywhere. They're definitely an important part of

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<v Speaker 1>our culture and of our technology and of everything you do.

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<v Speaker 1>But the question we had was how do they do

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<v Speaker 1>what they do? What does it mean to lazy? How

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<v Speaker 1>do you build a laser? Could you assemble one from

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<v Speaker 1>the stuff in your kitchen? Yeah? Can you shoot it

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<v Speaker 1>in the movies like to destroy other specihopes? That's right?

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<v Speaker 1>Do they really make the pew pew pew sound. That's

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<v Speaker 1>that's the question. I want to know the answer to

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<v Speaker 1>what sound does a laser make? Is it like pure

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<v Speaker 1>or it's definitely one of those? How good? I hit

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<v Speaker 1>it on my first three talk tries. But we were

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<v Speaker 1>wondering how many people out there know what a laser

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<v Speaker 1>is and how it works. I walked around on campus

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<v Speaker 1>and I asked people, do you know how a laser works?

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<v Speaker 1>Does of you listening think about it for a second.

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<v Speaker 1>Here's what people had to say, mate, Sorry, uh, focused light,

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<v Speaker 1>light gets multiplied and focused? Okay, cool light? All right.

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<v Speaker 1>I guess not a lot of deep knowledge about lasers

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<v Speaker 1>out there. I had the impression people think lasers are

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<v Speaker 1>like you have a light bulb and then maybe you

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<v Speaker 1>have a lens to focus it, and that's your laser.

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<v Speaker 1>I like the person who said, how did how do

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<v Speaker 1>lasers work? By light? Technically? You're right, you can go

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<v Speaker 1>wrong with that answer. That's right. Yeah, go with a

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<v Speaker 1>very very general answer, how does this work? Physics? Right?

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<v Speaker 1>You could just say physics to any question to ask people? Really,

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<v Speaker 1>even math? Can I say how does math work? No?

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<v Speaker 1>But that's not a topic for our podcast, right because

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<v Speaker 1>math is outside the universe. Beyond the scope of this podcast.

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<v Speaker 1>That's right. But maybe it's the only thing more fundamental

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<v Speaker 1>in physics is math. Maybe. I like how you say, maybe,

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<v Speaker 1>is there is there anything else? Maybe philosophy. I guess

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<v Speaker 1>philosophy and math, you know, down there at the at

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<v Speaker 1>the down in the dirt and the roots of human

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<v Speaker 1>intellectual exploration. Yeah, so lasers are pretty interesting, right, They

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<v Speaker 1>have an interesting history, Like apparently historians don't really know

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<v Speaker 1>who invented the laser, or they haven't settled on who

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<v Speaker 1>invented laser. That's right. And I heard that one really

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<v Speaker 1>important science historian actually wrote a him about it once.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh really is that true? Yeah? His name is Um.

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<v Speaker 1>Hold on, I have it here. Let me check Jorge him.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, that comic laureate of the Internet. Should we um?

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<v Speaker 1>Should we read the poem? Sure? Go for it. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>not sure if this is supposed to be set to

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<v Speaker 1>music or rhyme. Yeah, it's supposed to be said to

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<v Speaker 1>laser music. So you think, think eighties here and then

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<v Speaker 1>go for it. Um. So, I wrote this when the

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<v Speaker 1>laser turned fifty about eight years ago, was the anniversary

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<v Speaker 1>of the laser. I'll read it and you make the

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<v Speaker 1>pu pu sounds all right. The laser turns fifty this week,

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<v Speaker 1>an important event in history. But who developed this amazing

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<v Speaker 1>technique that's still kind of a mystery. Was it Ted

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<v Speaker 1>my mom who built the first laser? Or was it

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<v Speaker 1>Towns in Shacklow who wrote the seminal paper and it

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<v Speaker 1>goes on like that role beautifully crafted versus oh thanks,

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah it was you know what happened? I was in

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<v Speaker 1>Ottawa and I went to visit they have a laser

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<v Speaker 1>institute at one of the university there, and they explained

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<v Speaker 1>to me that the anniversary of the laser was coming up,

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<v Speaker 1>and so they explained to me how the laser works.

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<v Speaker 1>And in fact, I think that's kind of related to

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<v Speaker 1>how you and I started working together, right, Yeah, you

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<v Speaker 1>just reminded me of this today. Apparently your comic about

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<v Speaker 1>the laser is one of the ones that I read

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<v Speaker 1>and uh and induced me to write you an email.

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<v Speaker 1>So yeah, the history is kind of funny because the

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<v Speaker 1>Nobel Prize for the laser, the first prototype for the laser,

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<v Speaker 1>and the first paper about the laser are all credited

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<v Speaker 1>to different people, Like, nobody knows who invented this really, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>it might have been one of these things where like

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<v Speaker 1>an idea that whose time has just come, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>we're on the cusp is sort of the next thing

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<v Speaker 1>to happen, and a few people contribute bits and pieces here,

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<v Speaker 1>and some other person puts these things together first there,

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<v Speaker 1>and uh, it's a bit of a mess. Yeah, it's

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<v Speaker 1>a bit of a mess. I think it's fascinating. Also

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<v Speaker 1>how important it is to assign credit for things like

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<v Speaker 1>we have the laser. It's awesome. Are people just fighting

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<v Speaker 1>about the money, like who earns a penny every time

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<v Speaker 1>they make a laser pointer? Or is it about like

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<v Speaker 1>the credit and scientific history? You know, it's it's interesting

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<v Speaker 1>to me how how long and nasty this battle is.

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<v Speaker 1>You mean you wouldn't fight to have that in your tombstone?

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<v Speaker 1>Daniel Whiteson invented the laser? Who would? Oh, I'm definitely

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<v Speaker 1>putting that on my tombstone. True or not? I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>you can put anything you wanted your trimstone. Nobody fact

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<v Speaker 1>checks tombstones. It's like fake news applied to tombstones. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>taking credit for all sorts of stuff in my tombstone. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>let's get into what Daniel is a laser? Right? So

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<v Speaker 1>a laser is different from a flashlight, right, It's not

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<v Speaker 1>just a flashlight with a lens, Okay. A laser is

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<v Speaker 1>something that produces a bunch of light, usually of the

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<v Speaker 1>same color or so, like all a bunch of photons

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<v Speaker 1>of the same energy, and they should all be going

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<v Speaker 1>in the same direction, right, So they're perfectly parallel. Meaning

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<v Speaker 1>if they're like, you know, a tiny distance apart now,

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<v Speaker 1>then a hundred meters away or a kilometer away, or

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<v Speaker 1>a million miles away, they'll still be the same distance apart,

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<v Speaker 1>perfectly parallel, perfectly parallel photons, right, yeah, exactly, So photons

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<v Speaker 1>usually of the same color, shot perfectly parallel, and also

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<v Speaker 1>wiggling the same way. Right. Remember, the photons are waves,

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<v Speaker 1>and they're like all other particles. They're governed by their

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<v Speaker 1>wave equation, and waves wiggle, right, they go up and

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<v Speaker 1>they go down, they go up and they go down.

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<v Speaker 1>And if you have two waves, if they're wiggling in

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<v Speaker 1>opposite directions, one wiggles up the other one wiggles down,

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<v Speaker 1>then they can cancel each other out. Right, So we

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<v Speaker 1>want our photons all wiggling the same way, so they

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<v Speaker 1>all sort of pushed together. It's like folks, on a

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<v Speaker 1>boat rowing at the same time. They all push together

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<v Speaker 1>for constructive interference to make a strong when they hit

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<v Speaker 1>something at the end. You want them to be perfectly synchronized.

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<v Speaker 1>Otherwise they might cancel each other out when they hit something. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>that's right, or they might you know, cancel each other

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<v Speaker 1>out part of the way. Um. You know these things,

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<v Speaker 1>these interference effects depend on the phase, and so yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>you want them all pushing in the same direction, um

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<v Speaker 1>at the same time. And so that's what a laser produces. Right.

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<v Speaker 1>That's that's what it means to be a laser. And

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<v Speaker 1>that's an important distinction of people to understand. That's not

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<v Speaker 1>just like a powerful flashlight or of uh flashlights somebody

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<v Speaker 1>put a lens in front of. It's a It's really

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<v Speaker 1>a very different kind of source of light. It's not

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<v Speaker 1>just a really bright light. It's like a perfectly ordered,

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<v Speaker 1>perfectly parallel beams of light. That's right. And there's two

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<v Speaker 1>kinds of lasers. One kind is the kind we're talking

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<v Speaker 1>about where all the photons have the same color, so

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<v Speaker 1>it's monochromatic, right, it's a single color of light, all

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<v Speaker 1>the photons of the same energy, the same color. UM.

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<v Speaker 1>That's the kind that you make to produce beams. You

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<v Speaker 1>can also produce laser pulses, right. These are short bursts,

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<v Speaker 1>and those require having lots of different colors so that

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<v Speaker 1>you add they add up and cancel out in just

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<v Speaker 1>the right way to have a localized burst. And you

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<v Speaker 1>can add up all the different wiggles together to make

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<v Speaker 1>the burst of any shape you want, right. And that's

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<v Speaker 1>different than a flashlight, because a flashlight it's just pumping

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<v Speaker 1>out photons with all kinds of colors and all kinds

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<v Speaker 1>of phases, and they're all out of sync with each other,

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<v Speaker 1>all these photons, that's right. And also they go in

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<v Speaker 1>in all different directions, right. Um, a flashlight usually has

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<v Speaker 1>like a tungsten filament bulb or something, right, and that's

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<v Speaker 1>just glowing and it's sending light in every direction. And

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<v Speaker 1>even if you have it, you know, coming out of

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<v Speaker 1>the front, so it's a little bit um shaped. You know.

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<v Speaker 1>You can take, for example, a flashlight and you can

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<v Speaker 1>point it at the moon, right, and as as you

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<v Speaker 1>get further away from the source of the light, the

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<v Speaker 1>size of the beam grows. Right. Flashlight makes a cone,

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<v Speaker 1>and the cone grows with distance, So you can point

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<v Speaker 1>it to the Moon, and you basically cover the whole

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<v Speaker 1>Moon with your flashlight, because by the time you get

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<v Speaker 1>to the distance of the Moon, the cone is huge.

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<v Speaker 1>Even if you focus it with like a lens and

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<v Speaker 1>try to get them parallel, they won't be perfectly parallel

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<v Speaker 1>exactly right. There's always going to be some spread there.

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<v Speaker 1>Whereas with a laser. If you take a laser and

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<v Speaker 1>you point it at the moon, if you if it's

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<v Speaker 1>a good laser, when it gets there, should have the

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<v Speaker 1>beam should have the same with is when is when

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<v Speaker 1>it left. So that's how that's why lasers are powerful, right,

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<v Speaker 1>because with just a few photons they can go a

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<v Speaker 1>great distance together and so they can transmit that information.

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<v Speaker 1>But they're also kind of in sync so they can

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<v Speaker 1>deliver all that power when they get there. That's right.

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<v Speaker 1>And that example about a laser to the Moon is

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<v Speaker 1>not just like a made up example. I don't know

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<v Speaker 1>if you know, but the astronauts who visited the Moon

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<v Speaker 1>left mirrors on the surface of the Moon so that

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<v Speaker 1>we can bounce lasers off of them and use that

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<v Speaker 1>to measure the distance from the Earth to the Moon.

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<v Speaker 1>I think that's pretty cool. The Earth's beak is selfie.

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<v Speaker 1>You can think we can take a selfie by shooting

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<v Speaker 1>the laser at the moon. And that's right. Even though

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<v Speaker 1>this is decades before the concept of selfies, it was

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<v Speaker 1>it was prescient that way, right. They were forward, forward looking.

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<v Speaker 1>NASA is always looking into the future. NASA invented the selfie.

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<v Speaker 1>We just we just give credit. We just give credit

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<v Speaker 1>to them. They can put it on the Actually the first,

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<v Speaker 1>the first selfie comes from decades and decades before that.

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<v Speaker 1>But but yeah, the first astronomical selfie for sure, first

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<v Speaker 1>laser selfie, that's right. Okay, So that's what the laser is.

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<v Speaker 1>It's like, it's like something that makes light, that shoots

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<v Speaker 1>light that's perfectly in sync and perfectly parallel and that's

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<v Speaker 1>really powerful. Okay, so what why is it called laser?

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<v Speaker 1>Like what what? What does that acronym mean? Light amplified

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<v Speaker 1>by stimulated emission radiation. That's right, let's break that down, right.

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<v Speaker 1>The first one is just light. Okay, so photons are light,

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<v Speaker 1>that's obvious. The last one, the last one is radiation, right,

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<v Speaker 1>and radiation in this case also it just means light. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>I think that's because they didn't want to call it

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<v Speaker 1>a laser that would have been more awkward with an

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<v Speaker 1>l So both of those words light and radiation just

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<v Speaker 1>refer to the photons, right, Okay. So it's something that

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<v Speaker 1>makes light, something that makes light and um and it

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<v Speaker 1>makes it in this special way using this process called

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<v Speaker 1>stimulated emission. Okay. And that's the really the guts of

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<v Speaker 1>the laser. That's what's going on inside, is that it's

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<v Speaker 1>a system that creates this stimulated emission. So we should

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<v Speaker 1>dig into that. The A and laser beings amplified, meaning

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<v Speaker 1>you're not just making that use sort of amplifying it somehow.

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<v Speaker 1>That's right. The basic principle of the laser is you

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<v Speaker 1>start with one photon of the color that you want,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, and you amplify use that to use this

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<v Speaker 1>system to multiply you. So I want to start with

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<v Speaker 1>one photon and then you create a chain reaction that

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<v Speaker 1>gives you ten photons, and then a hundred photons, and

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<v Speaker 1>then a thousand photons, etcetera, etcetera. Grows exponentially until you

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<v Speaker 1>have a very very intense beam of photons all the

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<v Speaker 1>same kind. And the key is the stimulated emission. That's

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<v Speaker 1>the thing that basically copies the photon. It says, if

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<v Speaker 1>you have one of the right wavelength or to all

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<v Speaker 1>the right attributes, then I can make more for you.

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<v Speaker 1>That's this process called stimulated emission. Okay, let's get stimulated

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<v Speaker 1>by stimulated emission. But first let's take a quick break. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>So laser is something that makes light that's all the

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<v Speaker 1>same color, the same wavelength, the same direction, the same wiggle,

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<v Speaker 1>and it's all done by something called stimulated emission. What

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<v Speaker 1>does that mean? Right? So the thing that's doing the

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<v Speaker 1>emission is just an atom, and so you have some

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<v Speaker 1>medium in your laser. Maybe it's a crystal, maybe it's

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<v Speaker 1>a gas that doesn't really matter, but it's a bunch

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<v Speaker 1>of atoms. And atoms can emit light, right, any atom,

0:17:03.720 --> 0:17:05.600
<v Speaker 1>any atom can emit light. Right, you make you get

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<v Speaker 1>things hot and they glow, right, that's something emitting light.

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<v Speaker 1>So if you pump energy into some material, right, it

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<v Speaker 1>will absorb that energy and bring it internally into itself.

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<v Speaker 1>But then sometimes it gets rid of that energy. That's

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<v Speaker 1>called emission, and it turns that energy into light. And

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<v Speaker 1>the way that it does that is it has inside

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<v Speaker 1>it, it it has these electrons. Right, So every atom has

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<v Speaker 1>electrons whizzing around it, and there's electrons have a few

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<v Speaker 1>certain orbits that they can use around the atom. It's

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<v Speaker 1>like a bunch of different energy levels. Electrons can't just

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<v Speaker 1>have any random energy level around it atom. Based on

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<v Speaker 1>the shape of the atom and the configuration of the protons, etcetera.

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<v Speaker 1>There's a few places the electrons are allowed to live,

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<v Speaker 1>so they're called energy levels. And you can imagine sort

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<v Speaker 1>of a ladder of these energy levels. And that's kind

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<v Speaker 1>of related to their wave nature of electrons, right, because

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<v Speaker 1>their waves they can only fit in so many ways

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<v Speaker 1>around the atom. Right, It's sort of related to that, right,

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<v Speaker 1>It's very closely related. Yeah. Um, the reason that there

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<v Speaker 1>are discrete energy levels, right, quantized energy levels, is precisely

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<v Speaker 1>because of those waves and the way the waves fit

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<v Speaker 1>together around the atom. So a simple way to think

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<v Speaker 1>about it is when the electron goes around the atom,

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<v Speaker 1>it's going to do it's wiggling, and you wanted to

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<v Speaker 1>build on itself. You don't want it to cancel itself out,

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<v Speaker 1>and so when it comes around one orbit, you need

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<v Speaker 1>to be in the same place in its wiggle either

0:18:29.119 --> 0:18:31.399
<v Speaker 1>it's wiggling up or it's wiggling down. It has to

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<v Speaker 1>fit a very specific number of wiggles in an orbit.

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<v Speaker 1>You can just do like three and a half that's right.

0:18:38.359 --> 0:18:42.320
<v Speaker 1>It has to wiggle once or twice or three times. Right.

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<v Speaker 1>If it wiggles one and a half times, then it's

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<v Speaker 1>going to get out of sync with itself and eventually

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<v Speaker 1>cancel itself out. So those are not stable solutions. So

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<v Speaker 1>you can't have an electron hanging out and wiggling one

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<v Speaker 1>and a half times around the atom. So each of

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<v Speaker 1>those is a different level. It's not like the Earth

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<v Speaker 1>going around the Sun, like if something moves as a

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<v Speaker 1>little bit, our orbit will increase a little bit. That's

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<v Speaker 1>not how electrons work. They have very specific orbits that

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<v Speaker 1>can fit around the nucleus of the atom. Yeah, that's

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<v Speaker 1>actually a really interesting deep question. Is the Earth's orbit quantized?

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<v Speaker 1>Are there an infinite number of orbits? That's not a

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<v Speaker 1>one with a simple answer. If gravity is not quantum mechanical,

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<v Speaker 1>then you're right, so there's an infinite number of orbits

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<v Speaker 1>the Earth can take. However, if the gravity is quantized,

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<v Speaker 1>then then you're wrong, and there are energy levels around

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<v Speaker 1>the Sun, but those energy levels would be so tiny

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<v Speaker 1>we could probably not even see them anyway. That might

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<v Speaker 1>be the subject of a different podcast. Yeah, exactly. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>So the energy, So the electron has these energy levels

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<v Speaker 1>it has on these ladder. This ladder can go up

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<v Speaker 1>and it can go down. Yeah, people use the ladder analogy, right,

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<v Speaker 1>like electrons can be here or it can go up

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<v Speaker 1>a level or another level. Right, It's like very discrete steps.

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<v Speaker 1>And just like with the ladder, what happens when you

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<v Speaker 1>go up a level? Will you It takes some energy

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<v Speaker 1>to do that, right, put some energy into your thigh

0:20:01.359 --> 0:20:03.880
<v Speaker 1>muscle to push you up, and then you're storing more

0:20:04.040 --> 0:20:07.000
<v Speaker 1>energy or you have more gravitational energy because you're higher up.

0:20:07.400 --> 0:20:09.280
<v Speaker 1>The same thing happens with the electron. How does it

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<v Speaker 1>go up a level? It needs to get energy from somewhere, right,

0:20:12.359 --> 0:20:15.040
<v Speaker 1>it needs to get heated up or absorb some light

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<v Speaker 1>or something. So it can go up a level, right,

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<v Speaker 1>and then it can go down a level. And what

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<v Speaker 1>happens when it goes down a level While the energy

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<v Speaker 1>level it was at is fixed and the energy level

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<v Speaker 1>is going to is fixed, so the energy difference between

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<v Speaker 1>them is fixed, meaning every atom has the same levels.

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<v Speaker 1>And if electrons jumped down from one level to the

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<v Speaker 1>lower one. Then they're going to release a photon whose

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<v Speaker 1>energy is exactly the difference between those two levels, right,

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<v Speaker 1>conservation of energy. The electron loses energy, goes down a level,

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<v Speaker 1>and it gives off that missing that extra energy in

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<v Speaker 1>terms of a photon. Okay, so the electron goes down

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<v Speaker 1>a level, it will shoot out a photon with that

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<v Speaker 1>energy that it doesn't need anymore. That's right, exactly. So

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<v Speaker 1>how do you get a bunch of photons of all

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<v Speaker 1>the same color in the same direction. When you get

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<v Speaker 1>a bunch of atoms, You get them all to have

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<v Speaker 1>their electrons up one level, right, You heat them up,

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<v Speaker 1>you pump some energy into them somehow, and then you

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<v Speaker 1>get them to come down all about the same time.

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<v Speaker 1>You get them excited. You get him excited, right, and

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<v Speaker 1>then you get them the big let down. Yeah, all,

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<v Speaker 1>And when they get the let down, that's when they

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<v Speaker 1>give off a photon, and each one will give off

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<v Speaker 1>the same color photon. The photon is determined exactly by

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<v Speaker 1>its energy, which is determined by its wavelength. Right, those

0:21:33.200 --> 0:21:35.320
<v Speaker 1>things things are all connected, right, But they don't all

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<v Speaker 1>in a laser. They don't all give them out at

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<v Speaker 1>the same time, it's it's kind of like how you

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<v Speaker 1>said earlier. You want to cause a chain reaction that

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<v Speaker 1>will make all the atoms in your laser shoot all

0:21:45.560 --> 0:21:49.480
<v Speaker 1>these photons perfectly saying exactly so that chain reaction is key,

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<v Speaker 1>and you can have an atom and you can give

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<v Speaker 1>it energy. So the electron goes up one level and

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<v Speaker 1>then it's happened to just hang out there for a while, right,

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<v Speaker 1>But what happens when another photon just the right energy

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<v Speaker 1>level comes by, Like if you're an electron, you're an

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<v Speaker 1>excited state, um, and there's like a ladders step ladder

0:22:07.320 --> 0:22:10.080
<v Speaker 1>step below you, or you could go down. If a

0:22:10.080 --> 0:22:13.600
<v Speaker 1>photon comes by just that right energy level, it has

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<v Speaker 1>exactly the energy that's between you and that lower level,

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<v Speaker 1>then you're more likely to emit. You get pushed sort

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<v Speaker 1>of out of that energy level. And the reason is

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<v Speaker 1>that that photon changes the way the environment works. Right.

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<v Speaker 1>Photons are electromagnetic waves, so it creates a little electromagnetic

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<v Speaker 1>field there that makes what you were doing a little

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<v Speaker 1>less stable, so sort of pushes you out of that

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<v Speaker 1>state down to a lower state, and you end up

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<v Speaker 1>emitting another photon. So the bottom line is if you're

0:22:41.400 --> 0:22:44.879
<v Speaker 1>capable of emitting that photon, and one photon just like

0:22:44.960 --> 0:22:46.879
<v Speaker 1>that comes by, then you're gonna give it up and

0:22:46.920 --> 0:22:51.159
<v Speaker 1>emit that photon. And that's why it's called stimulated emission. Right, Like,

0:22:51.280 --> 0:22:55.119
<v Speaker 1>if you're an excited atom, you could just spontaneously have

0:22:55.240 --> 0:22:59.880
<v Speaker 1>your electron drop and admit a photon. That's called spontaneous emission. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>But stimulated emission is when you're excited and you get

0:23:03.840 --> 0:23:07.720
<v Speaker 1>hit by another photon and that causes you to drop

0:23:07.760 --> 0:23:10.960
<v Speaker 1>a level and emit another photon. Yeah. It's sort of

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<v Speaker 1>like peer pressure and you're like, hey, everybody's emitting that

0:23:13.680 --> 0:23:17.159
<v Speaker 1>red photon. I got one, I could emit one, and yeah,

0:23:17.240 --> 0:23:19.440
<v Speaker 1>yeah I could, and so I will. This is the

0:23:19.560 --> 0:23:22.200
<v Speaker 1>right time, you know. And so that's what the stimulated

0:23:22.240 --> 0:23:25.080
<v Speaker 1>part is. Right, Um, it's not. This is not nocturnal emissions.

0:23:25.080 --> 0:23:30.200
<v Speaker 1>People were talking about photons stimulating electrons into a emitting

0:23:30.240 --> 0:23:41.359
<v Speaker 1>war photons. What's the acronym for that one? Leaner? Um?

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<v Speaker 1>So to review, right, you start, you get some material,

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<v Speaker 1>you gotta pump it with energy. It's not free energy, right,

0:23:46.800 --> 0:23:48.879
<v Speaker 1>you gotta pump it with energy somehow. You gotta get

0:23:48.880 --> 0:23:53.359
<v Speaker 1>the atoms excited in your media and lock of stuff. Yeah,

0:23:53.400 --> 0:23:55.280
<v Speaker 1>it's like you know your comedy routine. You need somebody

0:23:55.320 --> 0:23:57.359
<v Speaker 1>go out there and warm up the crowd. Right, So

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<v Speaker 1>first you warm up the crowd, you get it's called

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<v Speaker 1>population inversion. Maybe've heard that phrase by everyone a beer,

0:24:05.000 --> 0:24:08.040
<v Speaker 1>that's right, We've discovered alcohol makes people laugh at the

0:24:08.119 --> 0:24:13.160
<v Speaker 1>jokes more. And so the physics equivalent for lasers, right,

0:24:13.760 --> 0:24:17.040
<v Speaker 1>is you pump the room with with energy and you

0:24:17.080 --> 0:24:19.920
<v Speaker 1>get all those electrons up at that level, and then

0:24:20.000 --> 0:24:23.199
<v Speaker 1>one of them will one of them will pop, right,

0:24:23.359 --> 0:24:25.880
<v Speaker 1>and that will cause the chain reaction. Having one photon

0:24:25.920 --> 0:24:28.439
<v Speaker 1>around will make all these other atoms which you know

0:24:28.600 --> 0:24:31.600
<v Speaker 1>are holding that photon inside them. Basically, birds didn't get

0:24:31.680 --> 0:24:33.800
<v Speaker 1>rid of it. They'll start emitting and then and then

0:24:33.880 --> 0:24:35.640
<v Speaker 1>more and more will admit. But they have to get

0:24:35.720 --> 0:24:40.159
<v Speaker 1>hit by a photon for them to release a photon, right, Like,

0:24:40.200 --> 0:24:43.240
<v Speaker 1>it doesn't just yeah, it's not because your neighbor shot

0:24:43.240 --> 0:24:45.840
<v Speaker 1>out a photon, then you shoot out a photon. It's

0:24:45.880 --> 0:24:47.280
<v Speaker 1>like you got you have to get hit by a

0:24:47.280 --> 0:24:50.159
<v Speaker 1>photon for you to get stimulated. Yeah, you don't have

0:24:50.240 --> 0:24:53.560
<v Speaker 1>to absorb it, but having the photon nearby close enough

0:24:53.560 --> 0:24:56.920
<v Speaker 1>to interact with the atom will change the electromagnetic vicinity

0:24:57.040 --> 0:24:59.520
<v Speaker 1>essentially and cause it to do that. And that's why

0:24:59.560 --> 0:25:02.040
<v Speaker 1>you usually you also put this block of atoms in

0:25:02.040 --> 0:25:04.600
<v Speaker 1>a resonant cavity. Basically you put two mirrors on either

0:25:04.640 --> 0:25:08.200
<v Speaker 1>side so that you capture the photons and you sort

0:25:08.240 --> 0:25:10.320
<v Speaker 1>of bounce them around inside. It's the same reason why

0:25:10.320 --> 0:25:12.720
<v Speaker 1>you have like walls in your oven, right, you want

0:25:12.720 --> 0:25:16.280
<v Speaker 1>to reflect the energy back so that it builds on itself. Right.

0:25:16.359 --> 0:25:20.080
<v Speaker 1>But that that whole process I heard is still even

0:25:20.119 --> 0:25:24.440
<v Speaker 1>a mystery for physicists, Like why exactly does the stimulated

0:25:24.560 --> 0:25:29.000
<v Speaker 1>atom shootout a photon that's exactly exactly like the one

0:25:29.080 --> 0:25:31.760
<v Speaker 1>that just went by closely or that hit it. Why

0:25:31.800 --> 0:25:34.720
<v Speaker 1>does it create a photon that's exactly identical to the

0:25:34.760 --> 0:25:37.879
<v Speaker 1>one that it saw with the same like wiggle and

0:25:37.960 --> 0:25:41.320
<v Speaker 1>the same timing in this exact same direction. That's still

0:25:41.400 --> 0:25:43.400
<v Speaker 1>kind of a mystery, right. Well, I think there's some

0:25:43.520 --> 0:25:47.199
<v Speaker 1>quantum mechanical arguments that that suggested. I think there's a

0:25:47.200 --> 0:25:50.679
<v Speaker 1>lot of the details are not perfectly understood. But you know,

0:25:50.720 --> 0:25:55.080
<v Speaker 1>the photon creates destabilizes the atom a tiny bit, right,

0:25:55.440 --> 0:25:57.880
<v Speaker 1>and so we can understand that there's something called firms

0:25:57.920 --> 0:26:00.679
<v Speaker 1>Golden rule, which tells us about how how things like

0:26:00.800 --> 0:26:04.320
<v Speaker 1>to decay, and so having that photon around definitely helps

0:26:04.400 --> 0:26:08.600
<v Speaker 1>us understand how the electron would be more likely to

0:26:08.680 --> 0:26:12.000
<v Speaker 1>jump down. Um. But yeah, why why it comes out

0:26:12.000 --> 0:26:14.119
<v Speaker 1>in exactly the same phase for example, I think it's

0:26:14.160 --> 0:26:16.120
<v Speaker 1>more likely too, but not guaranteed. So I think there

0:26:16.119 --> 0:26:20.000
<v Speaker 1>definitely are some some open questions there before we keep going,

0:26:20.119 --> 0:26:36.159
<v Speaker 1>Let's take a short break. Okay, So that's the S

0:26:36.240 --> 0:26:39.239
<v Speaker 1>E N L A S E R and so we

0:26:39.320 --> 0:26:41.400
<v Speaker 1>we tried. We covered all the letters. So it's light

0:26:41.800 --> 0:26:47.240
<v Speaker 1>amplified by stimulated emission radiation, that's right, and um. And

0:26:47.280 --> 0:26:48.720
<v Speaker 1>so you have it in this box and you have

0:26:48.800 --> 0:26:51.719
<v Speaker 1>these residents. You have a resident cavity. You have either mirrors, right,

0:26:51.800 --> 0:26:54.320
<v Speaker 1>bounce it back and forth, so the photons you emit

0:26:54.800 --> 0:26:57.520
<v Speaker 1>more photons to emit and um. You know, you can

0:26:57.560 --> 0:26:58.879
<v Speaker 1>have a little hole in the side so that some

0:26:58.960 --> 0:27:01.320
<v Speaker 1>of them leak out, and that's basically your laser. That's

0:27:01.320 --> 0:27:03.320
<v Speaker 1>how you produce it, right. But it can be a

0:27:03.320 --> 0:27:06.199
<v Speaker 1>constant thing. You can be constantly pumping it with energy,

0:27:06.480 --> 0:27:08.720
<v Speaker 1>pushing the electrons up and then they come down. You

0:27:08.760 --> 0:27:11.080
<v Speaker 1>get photon, you push them back up right so it

0:27:11.080 --> 0:27:13.920
<v Speaker 1>can be a continual thing. Um. One of the most

0:27:14.000 --> 0:27:16.560
<v Speaker 1>interesting lasers I ever saw was actually here on on

0:27:16.680 --> 0:27:19.440
<v Speaker 1>campus at U SEE. I as a professor here Franklin

0:27:19.480 --> 0:27:22.360
<v Speaker 1>Dollar who does fusion research, and they're trying to create

0:27:22.480 --> 0:27:24.639
<v Speaker 1>fusion by focusing a bunch of lasers all in the

0:27:24.720 --> 0:27:27.879
<v Speaker 1>same place. And he had this amazing setup where had

0:27:27.920 --> 0:27:30.879
<v Speaker 1>a bunch of lasers all overlapping in his lab and

0:27:31.000 --> 0:27:34.920
<v Speaker 1>he created a ball of plasma that was just floating

0:27:35.000 --> 0:27:38.960
<v Speaker 1>there in empty space. It was incredible. You can trap

0:27:39.160 --> 0:27:42.639
<v Speaker 1>atoms with lasers basically, right, you can do that, but

0:27:42.760 --> 0:27:45.080
<v Speaker 1>here he was just basically heating the air with a

0:27:45.119 --> 0:27:47.440
<v Speaker 1>bunch of lasers. By pointing a bunch of lasers so

0:27:47.720 --> 0:27:50.919
<v Speaker 1>they overlapped in one place in space. He heated up

0:27:50.960 --> 0:27:53.640
<v Speaker 1>the air hot enough to ionize and create a floating

0:27:53.720 --> 0:27:56.240
<v Speaker 1>ball of plasma. It was like looking at stable lightning.

0:27:56.720 --> 0:27:59.040
<v Speaker 1>It was pretty incredible. But these are These mirrors are

0:27:59.119 --> 0:28:02.200
<v Speaker 1>pretty cool because they're not just any mirrors that you

0:28:02.280 --> 0:28:06.200
<v Speaker 1>put on both sides of your stimulated stuff. It's like

0:28:06.320 --> 0:28:08.560
<v Speaker 1>one of them has to be a one way mirror.

0:28:09.320 --> 0:28:11.760
<v Speaker 1>One of them is a regular mirror, but the other

0:28:11.800 --> 0:28:14.600
<v Speaker 1>one is like a half mirror, meaning that it reflects

0:28:14.640 --> 0:28:16.440
<v Speaker 1>some of the light, but it also lets through some

0:28:16.560 --> 0:28:18.439
<v Speaker 1>of the light. Right, that's right. If both of them

0:28:18.480 --> 0:28:20.800
<v Speaker 1>were perfect mirrors, then you would never get anything out

0:28:20.840 --> 0:28:23.119
<v Speaker 1>of your laser. You just they would all stay inside

0:28:23.160 --> 0:28:25.280
<v Speaker 1>the cavity. So you have to have one of them

0:28:25.320 --> 0:28:27.640
<v Speaker 1>being imperfect mirrors that some of them leak out. Yeah,

0:28:27.720 --> 0:28:29.520
<v Speaker 1>So that that's kind of where the laser is. It's

0:28:29.600 --> 0:28:33.480
<v Speaker 1>kind of like a light echo chamber. Meaning you get

0:28:33.560 --> 0:28:36.520
<v Speaker 1>you get all your atoms excited, and then you set

0:28:36.600 --> 0:28:41.280
<v Speaker 1>one one of them off and then that will, for example,

0:28:41.360 --> 0:28:43.920
<v Speaker 1>go to the right, bounce off the mirror, go to

0:28:44.000 --> 0:28:48.240
<v Speaker 1>the left, hit another atom, cause it to also admit

0:28:48.280 --> 0:28:51.200
<v Speaker 1>an exact copy of that photon hit the other mirror.

0:28:51.280 --> 0:28:53.200
<v Speaker 1>Then both of them come back to the stuff, and

0:28:53.280 --> 0:28:55.720
<v Speaker 1>then they stimulate two other atoms, and then that creates

0:28:55.760 --> 0:28:59.640
<v Speaker 1>four photons and that just kind of builds and multiplies

0:28:59.680 --> 0:29:02.160
<v Speaker 1>within your echo chamber. But because one of the mirrors

0:29:02.680 --> 0:29:06.080
<v Speaker 1>is one way or semi transparent, that's where the laser

0:29:06.160 --> 0:29:08.800
<v Speaker 1>shoots out. Right, Yeah, yeah, exactly. Did I just make

0:29:08.880 --> 0:29:11.200
<v Speaker 1>that up? You should be the physicist on this podcast, man,

0:29:15.320 --> 0:29:17.080
<v Speaker 1>But I mean that's that's an important part of it. Right.

0:29:17.120 --> 0:29:19.240
<v Speaker 1>It's like you have you want to develop an echo chamber,

0:29:19.360 --> 0:29:21.080
<v Speaker 1>but you have to let some of the light out,

0:29:21.560 --> 0:29:23.680
<v Speaker 1>that's right. Yeah, If you don't let some of that out,

0:29:23.720 --> 0:29:27.360
<v Speaker 1>then it's pretty quickly going to get overheated. You're gonna

0:29:27.440 --> 0:29:31.120
<v Speaker 1>laser your own laser, right, And it's for all those

0:29:31.320 --> 0:29:33.440
<v Speaker 1>for all of us who have ever built a death star.

0:29:33.600 --> 0:29:36.600
<v Speaker 1>You know that you want it to blow up your

0:29:36.880 --> 0:29:39.280
<v Speaker 1>enemies basis, you don't want it to destroy your own.

0:29:45.840 --> 0:29:48.560
<v Speaker 1>But then it's stimulating the stuff in between. You can

0:29:48.600 --> 0:29:51.120
<v Speaker 1>do that several ways. Like your stuff can be a

0:29:51.200 --> 0:29:54.760
<v Speaker 1>gas or it can be crystal to right, that's right.

0:29:54.920 --> 0:29:57.719
<v Speaker 1>And if you want a laser to give you light

0:29:57.800 --> 0:30:00.000
<v Speaker 1>of a certain wavelength, like you want a red laser

0:30:00.080 --> 0:30:02.840
<v Speaker 1>or a green laser, or an X ray laser or something,

0:30:03.360 --> 0:30:07.160
<v Speaker 1>you have to find a material that has steps in

0:30:07.240 --> 0:30:10.320
<v Speaker 1>the ladder, their steps in their electron ladder that are

0:30:10.400 --> 0:30:12.680
<v Speaker 1>just the right size. Right. You can't just tune it

0:30:12.800 --> 0:30:14.920
<v Speaker 1>up to anything you want, right, You can't say I

0:30:15.000 --> 0:30:18.120
<v Speaker 1>want photons of this frequency. You have to find some

0:30:18.360 --> 0:30:22.440
<v Speaker 1>material that has electrons um that have an energy level

0:30:22.520 --> 0:30:25.200
<v Speaker 1>that has just the right size and that's why some

0:30:25.400 --> 0:30:27.160
<v Speaker 1>of these things are easy, and some of these things

0:30:27.200 --> 0:30:30.080
<v Speaker 1>are hard, like X ray lasers are really difficult to build,

0:30:31.240 --> 0:30:33.720
<v Speaker 1>and they're really everywhere, right, Like I was thinking, like

0:30:34.040 --> 0:30:36.040
<v Speaker 1>if you have a mouse in your computer and it's

0:30:36.040 --> 0:30:38.560
<v Speaker 1>an optical mouse that has a little laser in it, right,

0:30:38.760 --> 0:30:42.760
<v Speaker 1>that's right, Yeah, yeah, lasers are everywhere, and uh, it's

0:30:42.800 --> 0:30:46.080
<v Speaker 1>amazing how influential they have become. You know. And if

0:30:46.120 --> 0:30:47.680
<v Speaker 1>you look back at the history of the lasers, not

0:30:47.760 --> 0:30:50.080
<v Speaker 1>only is it a big mess nobody can agree about

0:30:50.480 --> 0:30:53.400
<v Speaker 1>who invented them, but in the early days there was

0:30:53.440 --> 0:30:57.040
<v Speaker 1>a lot of skepticism that it was even useful at all. Right,

0:30:57.440 --> 0:31:01.480
<v Speaker 1>some scientists thought it was impossible to make a laser, right, Yeah,

0:31:01.520 --> 0:31:03.400
<v Speaker 1>it was Neil's bore. He tried to make an argument

0:31:03.480 --> 0:31:06.080
<v Speaker 1>using the Heisenberg and certainty principle. He was like, you

0:31:06.200 --> 0:31:09.560
<v Speaker 1>can't have that many atoms in a specified state. He

0:31:09.640 --> 0:31:12.280
<v Speaker 1>thought it would just be impossibly that quantum mechanics would

0:31:12.360 --> 0:31:14.600
<v Speaker 1>make it not possible to make a laser, when in fact,

0:31:14.960 --> 0:31:17.480
<v Speaker 1>you need quantum mechanics to build a laser. Right, So

0:31:17.480 --> 0:31:20.680
<v Speaker 1>it works the other direction, So sometimes famous scientists get

0:31:20.720 --> 0:31:23.640
<v Speaker 1>it wrong. What was his argument for saying that it

0:31:23.720 --> 0:31:26.240
<v Speaker 1>was impossible, Well, you know, the Heisenberg and certainty principle

0:31:26.320 --> 0:31:29.040
<v Speaker 1>tells you that there's a certain there's a limit to

0:31:29.040 --> 0:31:31.920
<v Speaker 1>how much information you can have, right, And so he

0:31:32.120 --> 0:31:35.560
<v Speaker 1>was arguing that having all these atoms in the same state,

0:31:35.880 --> 0:31:40.560
<v Speaker 1>that you're specifying their energy um too tightly, right, you

0:31:40.680 --> 0:31:43.520
<v Speaker 1>can't the same way the Heisenberger and certainty principle tells

0:31:43.560 --> 0:31:46.720
<v Speaker 1>you that you can't know the position and momentum um

0:31:47.600 --> 0:31:50.200
<v Speaker 1>of a particle at the same time. It also applies

0:31:50.240 --> 0:31:54.680
<v Speaker 1>to the energy and timing information, and so a laser

0:31:54.880 --> 0:31:57.160
<v Speaker 1>is trying to isolate a bunch of particles have the

0:31:57.240 --> 0:31:59.680
<v Speaker 1>same energy all at the same time. And so he

0:31:59.800 --> 0:32:01.480
<v Speaker 1>thought that that was going to violate the Heisenberg on

0:32:01.520 --> 0:32:06.000
<v Speaker 1>certainly principle. But clearly it doesn't. We shot that down

0:32:06.040 --> 0:32:11.240
<v Speaker 1>with a laser's right, with our fully operational battle station.

0:32:12.640 --> 0:32:14.880
<v Speaker 1>So so there's, uh, it's interesting that there are all

0:32:15.000 --> 0:32:17.640
<v Speaker 1>kinds of different kinds of laser right, Right, Like your

0:32:17.720 --> 0:32:19.640
<v Speaker 1>mouse can have a laser on it, but you can

0:32:19.680 --> 0:32:22.960
<v Speaker 1>also use a laser to cut through steel, right, Like,

0:32:23.160 --> 0:32:26.200
<v Speaker 1>what's the difference between the laser and my mouse and

0:32:26.280 --> 0:32:29.120
<v Speaker 1>the laser that can cut through things nothing, you're a mouse.

0:32:29.240 --> 0:32:33.320
<v Speaker 1>Laser can cut through steel, horrey, you just never tried. Know.

0:32:33.480 --> 0:32:35.800
<v Speaker 1>The difference is just the intensity, right, the number of

0:32:35.880 --> 0:32:39.880
<v Speaker 1>photons per second. Photons have energy, and when something is

0:32:39.960 --> 0:32:42.480
<v Speaker 1>hit by a laser, they deposit their energy into whatever

0:32:42.600 --> 0:32:45.080
<v Speaker 1>is hit by it. If it's not a very bright laser,

0:32:45.360 --> 0:32:46.760
<v Speaker 1>then you're not I don't have a whole lot of

0:32:46.800 --> 0:32:50.280
<v Speaker 1>photons per second, then you're not depositing a lot of energy, right.

0:32:50.320 --> 0:32:52.960
<v Speaker 1>So that's why you can shine you know, a simple

0:32:53.080 --> 0:32:56.560
<v Speaker 1>laser pointer and as your skin and it doesn't burn, right,

0:32:57.080 --> 0:33:00.200
<v Speaker 1>But if you had ten thousand laser point and you

0:33:00.320 --> 0:33:01.840
<v Speaker 1>hit them all at the same place in your skin,

0:33:02.160 --> 0:33:05.040
<v Speaker 1>that would be the same as having one really powerful laser,

0:33:05.360 --> 0:33:07.280
<v Speaker 1>and yeah, you could cut a hole in yourself. So

0:33:07.520 --> 0:33:11.239
<v Speaker 1>cutting lasers are just lasers with a higher intensity UM

0:33:11.560 --> 0:33:13.719
<v Speaker 1>and they can have more photons per second and they

0:33:13.800 --> 0:33:15.760
<v Speaker 1>do that. How do you create more intensity? Do you

0:33:15.800 --> 0:33:19.000
<v Speaker 1>just pump the material more or do you do you

0:33:19.040 --> 0:33:20.640
<v Speaker 1>know what I mean? Like, what's the difference. If I

0:33:20.720 --> 0:33:23.320
<v Speaker 1>had the same material, how do I get more laser

0:33:23.360 --> 0:33:25.080
<v Speaker 1>out of it? Yeah, you can pump the material more,

0:33:25.120 --> 0:33:27.960
<v Speaker 1>you can have more material. Um you're gonna have you

0:33:28.360 --> 0:33:30.440
<v Speaker 1>must be must also have to do with how you

0:33:30.560 --> 0:33:34.320
<v Speaker 1>tune the one wayness of your one way mirror how much,

0:33:34.360 --> 0:33:37.080
<v Speaker 1>And that's that's some fracture of the energy out per second.

0:33:37.840 --> 0:33:39.600
<v Speaker 1>So there's probably lots of ways to do it. Well.

0:33:39.720 --> 0:33:42.840
<v Speaker 1>Lasers are everywhere in our lives. But I heard somebody

0:33:42.920 --> 0:33:46.240
<v Speaker 1>once told me that the biggest impact lasers have had

0:33:46.560 --> 0:33:50.520
<v Speaker 1>is in science, helping us make instruments to measure things

0:33:50.840 --> 0:33:54.800
<v Speaker 1>so that we can expand our knowledge about the universe. Um. Yeah,

0:33:55.560 --> 0:34:02.440
<v Speaker 1>lasers everywhere. Um, but I thought you were going to

0:34:02.480 --> 0:34:05.600
<v Speaker 1>say something about like laser lithography, like we can all

0:34:05.680 --> 0:34:08.920
<v Speaker 1>design our own cutting board logos and have lasers burn

0:34:09.000 --> 0:34:12.120
<v Speaker 1>them out. Yeah. No, the maker, the maker movement is

0:34:12.239 --> 0:34:15.239
<v Speaker 1>very grateful for lasers, but in the sense that you know,

0:34:15.400 --> 0:34:18.239
<v Speaker 1>like that's how we know for example, or initially that's

0:34:18.280 --> 0:34:21.520
<v Speaker 1>how we kind of figured out that the gravitational waves

0:34:21.600 --> 0:34:24.800
<v Speaker 1>measurement that depends on lasers, right, absolutely. Yeah. That uses

0:34:24.920 --> 0:34:28.160
<v Speaker 1>two lasers um in two different directions, and then you

0:34:28.239 --> 0:34:30.600
<v Speaker 1>shoot them away and they bounce back and use that

0:34:30.640 --> 0:34:32.480
<v Speaker 1>as a way to measure the distance. You count the

0:34:32.560 --> 0:34:35.400
<v Speaker 1>number of wiggles the laser has had. Yeah, Yeah, and

0:34:35.520 --> 0:34:38.520
<v Speaker 1>that's how they do a lot of like DNA studies,

0:34:38.640 --> 0:34:43.640
<v Speaker 1>and you can use lasers to figure out what materials

0:34:43.719 --> 0:34:46.360
<v Speaker 1>are made out of. So it's kind of in scientific

0:34:46.440 --> 0:34:49.960
<v Speaker 1>instrumentation has been a huge Lasers have had had a

0:34:50.200 --> 0:34:54.200
<v Speaker 1>huge impact, not just in like consumer products and death

0:34:54.320 --> 0:34:57.200
<v Speaker 1>rays that were never made, it's in science, right, it's

0:34:57.239 --> 0:35:01.000
<v Speaker 1>in its Lasers have really kind of boosted and amplified

0:35:01.440 --> 0:35:03.640
<v Speaker 1>what science can do. And that's right. Yeah, we're all

0:35:03.719 --> 0:35:07.759
<v Speaker 1>emitting more papers thanks to lasers. We're stimulated to emit

0:35:07.800 --> 0:35:10.279
<v Speaker 1>more papers. Yeah. Lasers also play a big role in

0:35:10.360 --> 0:35:13.239
<v Speaker 1>fusion research, as we were mentioning earlier. Um, you know

0:35:13.320 --> 0:35:16.080
<v Speaker 1>it's a powerful device, right, you have you have light

0:35:16.200 --> 0:35:18.600
<v Speaker 1>with a specific wavelength. You can focus at a very

0:35:18.640 --> 0:35:21.960
<v Speaker 1>specific spot and so it uh, and that's what scientists do,

0:35:22.040 --> 0:35:24.160
<v Speaker 1>you know, They think, how can I answer this question

0:35:24.239 --> 0:35:27.839
<v Speaker 1>with the tools I have? And that's a very specific tool.

0:35:27.880 --> 0:35:31.320
<v Speaker 1>It's like a tiny little science scalpel, right, and that

0:35:31.440 --> 0:35:34.520
<v Speaker 1>lets you sometimes cut problems open that you otherwise couldn't. Yeah.

0:35:35.000 --> 0:35:37.799
<v Speaker 1>So the next time you are at the grocery store

0:35:37.880 --> 0:35:41.040
<v Speaker 1>and are checking out and you hear that people, that's

0:35:41.040 --> 0:35:42.920
<v Speaker 1>a that's a laser at work. There there's a little

0:35:43.680 --> 0:35:49.160
<v Speaker 1>tiny death ray death ray to scan your your bananas.

0:35:49.680 --> 0:35:54.560
<v Speaker 1>That's right, you're fully operational grocery store uses lasers. Yeah,

0:35:55.040 --> 0:35:58.600
<v Speaker 1>all right. Well, I hope this discussion stimulated you and

0:36:00.160 --> 0:36:03.320
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0:36:03.440 --> 0:36:06.080
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0:36:06.160 --> 0:36:16.319
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0:36:16.440 --> 0:36:19.360
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0:36:19.680 --> 0:36:21.680
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