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Speaker 1: Please if you're listening to Fox Sports Radio radio.

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Speaker 2: If from I've always said this my main weakness as

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Speaker 3: I like to interview people. I like to learn about them.

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Speaker 2: I want to ask a question and understand what's going on.

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Speaker 2: It leads to a weakness as a driver. If somebody

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Speaker 2: on the roadways, which happens checks notes every single time

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Speaker 2: you drive, right, I have this thing. I don't want

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Speaker 2: to flip you off. I don't want to get into

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Speaker 2: a fight. I don't want to do any of that.

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Speaker 2: I would like to pull you over and talk to you.

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Speaker 2: I would like to understand. Please explain to me what

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Speaker 2: is going on. And I'd like to do that with

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Speaker 2: a handful of NFL teams today, can you can you

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Speaker 2: please allow me to meet you on the side of

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Speaker 2: the road and understand what you're doing. Let's start with

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Speaker 2: the Green Bay Packers. But after I say good evening

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Speaker 2: and happy New year.

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Speaker 3: Brother.

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Speaker 4: Hello, hello there you are. Good evening, Happy good evening,

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Speaker 4: Happy new year, Happy new year. How was your new year?

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Speaker 2: Everything's fantastic, man, Everything is safe, everything is happy, everybody's

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Speaker 2: bellies are fully everything is wonderful. But I have a

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Speaker 2: soft spot I always have in my heart for the

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Speaker 2: Green Bay Packers. They play football in the middle of

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Speaker 2: the nowhere. Everybody is nice, everybody wants to have a

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Speaker 2: drink and eat cheese.

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Speaker 3: I love it there.

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Speaker 2: I love it in Wisconsin, and so I have a

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Speaker 2: soft spot for the Green Bay Packers. And I would

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Speaker 2: like to know. I understand that Jordan Love left hurt,

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Speaker 2: kind of hurt, but I also watched a football team

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Speaker 2: in the fourth quarter of a game against the Wolf

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Speaker 2: of Chicago Bears, who are experts at losing games. We've

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Speaker 2: talked about this, they are experts. Amazing the different ways

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Speaker 2: the Bears have found to lose football games. And today

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Speaker 2: the Green Bay Packers they found a way to lose

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Speaker 2: to the Bears, and they did it with a lot

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Speaker 2: because ephrom they're not.

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Speaker 4: No, no, they are are the significantly not.

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Speaker 2: So what what is your take on what happened out

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Speaker 3: Because in my eyes.

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Speaker 2: The Green Bay Packers should be at Sofi Stadium, favored

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Speaker 2: to beat the Rams next week, and instead they're gonna

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Speaker 2: hobble their way to Philadelphia to take on the damn

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Speaker 3: Crazy to look.

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Speaker 4: Sometimes you can get in your own way. Sometimes you

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Speaker 4: can take your eye off the prize and as we

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Speaker 4: crack open a fresh beverage, cheers, cheers. Sometimes you watch

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Speaker 4: stuff that drives you to drink that happens, yes, yes,

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Speaker 4: And so watching that game, I'm like, what's happening here?

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Speaker 4: Like literally, I was like, don't they know that this

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Speaker 3: This is.

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Speaker 4: Like look outside of and you know what, let me

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Speaker 4: back up. What I think happened was. I think they

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Speaker 4: what watching goes down. Love hurts his hand, elbow, whatever

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Speaker 4: that was. So now they're like, Okay, we can't go

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Speaker 4: So I think mentally they took their foot off the

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Speaker 4: gas that I can understand anything other than that. No,

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Speaker 4: that's not what you want.

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Speaker 3: I get it. I get what you're saying. I get that.

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Speaker 2: You know, you watch one of your top players go

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Speaker 2: any way, shape or form. Even though Matt Lafleur said

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Speaker 2: after the game that Love was cleared to go back in,

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Speaker 2: Love was feeling some numbness in the arm. The playoffs

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Speaker 2: And the next thing you know, you're in Houston losing

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Speaker 3: I get it. So that could shake you.

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Speaker 2: At the same time, I'm just I'm looking at the

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Speaker 3: Lead, and how how can you.

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Speaker 2: Let something like this happened? The Chicago Bears.

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Speaker 3: Experts that they are at losing games in the final minute.

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Speaker 2: How can you let them go down and do this

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Speaker 3: Included in there is who knows.

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Speaker 2: You could end You could end up hosting the NFC

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Speaker 2: title game for all you know, if you're the sixth

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Speaker 2: and if you somehow come out of that, you can

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Speaker 2: book your trip to play the winner of tonight's football

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Speaker 2: game on two weeks rest. What Yeah, my god, you're dead.

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Speaker 3: You're dead if you're the Green Bay Packers. To me, now,

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Speaker 4: And it's an improbable situation. The way they started off

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Speaker 4: they pulled him out right, like I'm telling you. When

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Speaker 4: you come, sit down. That was because you start thinking, okay,

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Speaker 4: is the position more important than the people we need,

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Speaker 4: no matter what seed we are, And you really have

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Speaker 4: to ask yourself that as a coach. Now, granted, Chicago

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Speaker 4: in the first half, whatever happens happens. Whatever happens happens.

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Speaker 4: And I think that's where they were mentally. They came out,

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Speaker 4: to go with plan B. And Plan B is, hey,

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Speaker 4: let's just survive this either way. We're we'll go play

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Speaker 4: you know, Mala Floor was okay with that.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and I and I can underget that.

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Speaker 4: I get it like that that that that you could

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Speaker 4: you know, oh, well we can't lose Josh Jacobs. We can't, right,

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Speaker 4: and you start pulling guys, defensive guys. You start pulling

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Speaker 4: You don't want to make a big splash. You don't

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Speaker 4: want to make it seem obvious. But hey, you're done right.

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Speaker 4: Hey no, no, no, no, you're done you no no, no, come

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Speaker 4: there Once that happened, I think they went and for

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Speaker 4: But when you start losing key factors that you need

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Speaker 4: They were getting on a plane. They just didn't know where.

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Speaker 4: And so I think it's a it's a self preservation

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Speaker 3: I understand what you're saying, just to help.

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Speaker 4: You with how you were feeling before. You know, as

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Speaker 2: Oh my god, what what are you doing?

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Speaker 3: Well?

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Speaker 4: I just try to explain different minds and I and

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Speaker 4: that to me, you lose your star quarterback.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but you know what, I could argue and and

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Speaker 2: and while I understand where you're coming from, I could

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Speaker 3: Has happened to Jordan Love has now happened.

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Speaker 2: If you have him next week, great, and I think

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Speaker 2: then I'd like to play the.

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Speaker 3: Rams even more. Yeah, but at what cost? I'm willing

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Speaker 4: Oh you not, I promise I am, Because I promise

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Speaker 2: But if from you can't play you know this, you

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: I understand you're going.

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Speaker 2: To lose people sometimes you are. You can't be terrified.

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Speaker 4: And it's the same adage. You watch an NBA game,

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Speaker 3: Well, But that's when nothing's on the line.

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Speaker 2: I would argue, you got something on the line here,

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Speaker 2: got That is what the definition of football is. There

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Speaker 2: on every play by every player, and if something's on

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Speaker 2: the chips fall where they may and you might get

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Speaker 3: And I hear you. I get why the Packers might

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Speaker 2: I just think that there was more on the line

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Speaker 3: In the moment.

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Speaker 4: Well, I think they had come to terms with however

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Speaker 4: this thing shook out, it was going to be better

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Speaker 4: than losing three offensive starters or two deef of one

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Speaker 4: at this point, right, losing your edge rusher, right right,

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Speaker 4: at this point, you know wherever you go, is it

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Speaker 4: worth losing for Shan Gary? Absolutely not no, right, So

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Speaker 4: let's bring him out. We won't get the pressure we

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Speaker 4: normally will get. And they were getting pressure and shout

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Speaker 4: out to Caleb Williams. He you know, extended some play. Still,

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Speaker 4: you know, it was spotty, but they found a way

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Speaker 4: finish his uh his rookie year, not on a twelve

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, no, I here's what I'll say about it, that

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Speaker 2: risk reward game that the Packers played today.

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Speaker 3: Ask me again if they got it right. Of course,

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Speaker 3: on our next show.

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Speaker 2: Well, ask me on our next show if they got

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Speaker 4: Come on, but guess what, But guess what? What?

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Speaker 3: Got a shot?

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Speaker 4: You've got a shot. They got it, and all you

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Speaker 2: Okay, Hey, there's this other game that still needs to

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Speaker 2: Alex is waiting for me to talk, but I cannot

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Speaker 2: stand interrupting Ephrom's flow. Right you you got the flow,

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Speaker 2: We're about to start this thing.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, who you got? I got Minnesota?

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Speaker 3: Me too.

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Speaker 4: Tell me why I got Minnesota because I trust, I trust.

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Speaker 3: I know what you're gonna say. Okay, I know, say it.

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Speaker 3: Say it for the people who don't know.

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Speaker 4: I trust the decision making of Minnesota over the vibrado

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Speaker 4: and ego of dan Quinn. This is a playoff game,

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Speaker 4: so you may not think so, but they're going into

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Speaker 3: And and your stadium will be alive.

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Speaker 2: It will be two weeks crack it, and you will

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Speaker 4: Have to go anywhere until you're going to New Orleans.

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Speaker 2: Here's here's what I like, just to further your point.

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Speaker 2: I'll leave that up to each and every one of

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Speaker 2: The Lions have the ball first. It is second to eight.

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Speaker 2: They got two yards on first down. You cannot guarantee me,

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Speaker 3: And that's a problem. You can't. You're like, I think

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Speaker 3: I think he would pump.

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Speaker 4: Well, we may get that, because.

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Speaker 3: Not to find out because that's thirty VERI here we go.

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Speaker 3: We will very well get that. Oh we might, so

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Speaker 3: I feel you.

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Speaker 2: I'll add to this though Detroit is incredibly banged up.

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Speaker 2: I have a soft spot for for the Detroit Lions.

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Speaker 3: Their their their their defenses is going to have a

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Speaker 4: Man, that was a good move because he had them,

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Speaker 4: he had him short. It would have been fourth and two.

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Speaker 3: Fourth and two, fourth and two, Like he got two hands.

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Speaker 3: I'm like, here we go. Jamier Gibbs did Jamiir Gibbs things.

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Speaker 2: So he moves the chains and the Lions get in

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Speaker 2: We'll keep you up to date on this one, but

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Speaker 3: A lot, I believe.

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Speaker 4: Look the way this thing is shaping out, Sam just

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Speaker 4: You win this game, you get the number one seed.

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Speaker 4: The most important thing you need to do is win

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Speaker 4: Because we've seen these Minnesota teams who've had home field

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Speaker 3: That's just what it is.

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Speaker 4: You let him walk out the building, then you gonna

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Speaker 4: walk out the building with him.

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Speaker 1: You can't, you.

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Speaker 4: Can't, you can't. It's too good. It's too good. It's

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Speaker 4: but you have you number one, now you have now

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Speaker 4: how do we make this beneficial for us? There's a

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Speaker 4: few things that you can do. Number one, you got

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Speaker 2: Interesting, So that's what you would consider doing. Yeah, yeah, yeah, okay.

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Speaker 2: Couple problems here for the for the Minnesota vikingsple couple problems.

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Speaker 2: If Sam does what they want him to do over

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Speaker 4: Well, once you, once you determine you you're going to

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Speaker 4: It's not a you know that's what but but that

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Speaker 3: He balled out, and.

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Speaker 2: He's gonna get MVP votes and he might go fifteen

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: Can you think you can get a first round draft

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Speaker 3: Maybe, Yeah, I believe you can probably probably.

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Speaker 4: So you can now have two first round picks coming

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Speaker 3: No doubt.

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Speaker 2: But your financial structure that you've planned right like, that

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Speaker 4: You sometimes you got to throw that out the window.

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Speaker 3: I hear you, I hear you.

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Speaker 4: And he deserves it, like they got work to do

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Speaker 4: on and so so forth, what are we talking at?

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Speaker 3: Literally, what are we doing? You know, who's got work

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Speaker 4: You've got work to do. He's got his working pants on.

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Speaker 3: Let's do it. Let's do it. Good evening.

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Speaker 2: Oh he's here, Yeah, you got here yet, We've we've

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Speaker 4: She's happy. Thanks, she's happy. Kawhi Leonard played the first

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Speaker 5: Nineteen whole minutes.

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Speaker 3: Let's not forget last n right.

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Speaker 4: He did it, he did. They want the champions, they

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Speaker 3: He did it.

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Speaker 4: He just went to earn his money.

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Speaker 5: What we got a game tonight with Minnesota Detroit. It's

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Speaker 5: I just mention the Miami Dolphins season is over at

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Speaker 4: There's a lot of things that you know, I need

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Speaker 5: playing here, but at the end of the day, I

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Speaker 5: got to do what's best for my career. I'm too

442
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Speaker 5: much of a competitor to be just out there. Tyreek

443
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Speaker 5: Hill on his final day and some Miami Dolphin apparently

444
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Speaker 5: houses Dolphins with four turnovers, three by Tyler Huntley as

445
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Speaker 5: quarterback two a tongue of I Loo with the hip injury,

446
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Speaker 5: was out again. Denver with a win, clinch the final

447
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Speaker 5: AFC playoff spot b Kansas City thirty eight to nothing.

448
00:25:47,600 --> 00:25:52,480
Speaker 5: Bo Nick's four touchdown passes Broncos at Buffalo next weekend.

449
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Speaker 5: In the playoffs, the Chargers get a win to give

450
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Speaker 5: them the number five seed in the AFC. Chargers won

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Speaker 5: at Vegas thirty four or twenty. The Chargers will open

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Speaker 5: at Houston, the worst of the four division winners. That

453
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Speaker 5: means Pittsburgh at Baltimore next weekend. Seattle won at the

454
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Speaker 5: Rams thirty to twenty five. Gino Smith four touchdown passes,

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Speaker 5: including the game winner with about three minutes left. The

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Speaker 5: Rams sat starters. They could have clinched the number three

457
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Speaker 5: seed with a win. Instead, it goes to Tampa Bay.

458
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Speaker 5: The Bucks clinched earlier today clinch the NFC South beat

459
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Speaker 5: New Orleans twenty seven to nineteen with two touchdowns in.

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Speaker 3: The fourth quarter.

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Speaker 5: Atlanta, like Miami, has season over with an eight to

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Speaker 5: nine record. Atlanta lost at home in overtime to Carolina,

463
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Speaker 5: forty four to thirty eight. Carolina, with the league's worst

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Speaker 5: defense they allow almost four hundred yards a game. They

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Speaker 5: allowed to Atlanta five hundred and thirty seven yards, and

466
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Speaker 5: still the Falcons could not win at home. They could

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Speaker 5: have only clinched the nfccule title with a win and

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Speaker 5: a Tampa Bay loss. Neither happened. Philadelphia finishes fourth teen

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Speaker 5: and three. After beating the Giants twenty to thirteen. The

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Speaker 5: Bears ended a ten game losing streak, winning at Green

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Speaker 5: Bay twenty four to twenty two on a fifty one

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Speaker 5: yard field goal on the final play. Green Bay, the

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Speaker 5: seventh seed in the NFC, will open at Philadelphia next weekend.

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Speaker 5: Washington won five straight to end the season, one at

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Speaker 5: Dallas on a short touchdown pass in the final seconds

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Speaker 5: twenty three to nineteen. Washington clinches the sixth seed and

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Speaker 5: will be at Tampa Bay next New England doesn't want

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Speaker 5: the number one draft pick, thank you. New England beat

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Speaker 5: Buffalo twenty three to sixteen to end a six game

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Speaker 5: losing streak, and then the Patriots fired coach Gerrod Mayo.

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Speaker 5: Indianapolis won it overtime against Jacksonville twenty six to thirteen.

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Speaker 5: The Colts say officially they are not firing their coach

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Speaker 5: or their GM. Houston won at Tennessee twenty three to fourteen.

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Speaker 5: That's six straight losses for the Titans. They finished three

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Speaker 5: to fourteen. The Titans will draft number one overall. Cleveland

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Speaker 5: selects number two New York Giants number three Patriots down

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Speaker 5: to number four. In April, Arizona beat San Francisco forty

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Speaker 5: seven to twenty four. And yes, this game tonight, about

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Speaker 5: seven minutes ago, first quarter, Minnesota scoreless, aid Detroit back

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Speaker 5: to you.

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Speaker 2: Okay, Steve, great point, and I'm glad you brought this up, because, yeah,

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Speaker 2: we spent some time there talking about the Green Bay Packers,

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Speaker 2: and maybe we should have been also talking about the

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Speaker 2: Los Angeles Rams because the Rams, instead of an opportunity

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Speaker 2: to play the Commanders, well they get the loser of

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Speaker 2: this football game tonight. I'm not sure if that was

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Speaker 2: a smart thing to do either. Yeah, you know, fun

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Speaker 2: to watch Jimmy Garoppolo play football, though, I guess was

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Speaker 2: it I don't know, you know, whatever.

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Speaker 4: No, there was a lot of a rubbish out there

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Speaker 4: on today. At a stand of the season, I'm just

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Speaker 4: happy some you know, some position were available or up

503
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Speaker 4: for grabs. Obviously it's not as important as one would think.

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Speaker 4: I guess the importance is just to get into the

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Speaker 4: dance and then you know, do your thing. But outside

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Speaker 4: of that, you know, guys want to be healthy, as

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Speaker 4: healthy as possible, especially with eighteen games. You want to

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Speaker 4: be as healthy as possible going into the playoffs to

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Speaker 4: have yourself an opportunity to be world champions. And so

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Speaker 4: I think, I think there's a lot of a lot

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Speaker 4: of exciting coaches and organizations, and at some point we

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Speaker 4: can do a revisit of some of the things we

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Speaker 4: were looking forward to seeing this season. And I remember

514
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Speaker 4: one of those things, what's what does success look like

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Speaker 4: in year one for Hardball and the Charms.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, we could talk about that.

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Speaker 4: I would argue, we have a bunch of those type

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Speaker 4: of things that you know, the Washington and and and

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Speaker 4: and and of course the flip side of that San

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Speaker 4: Francisco's So it'd be cool to really, at some point,

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Speaker 4: maybe in the third hour, let's just talk about how

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Speaker 4: things played out based on what our predictions and and

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Speaker 4: our thoughts were at the beginning of the of the year.

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Speaker 3: No doubt, no doubt. I love that.

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Speaker 2: By the way, we're in the tyrack dot Com studios,

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Speaker 2: and and there was a lot of meat on that

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Speaker 2: bone that was just provided by by Steve de Sager,

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Speaker 2: including that Tyreek Hill sound.

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Speaker 3: What what what do you make of that?

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Speaker 4: I think we heard rumblings of this earlier. I think

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Speaker 4: he can't take the inconsistency of of of Tua. We

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Speaker 4: knew this coming out of Alabama. He was injury prone.

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Speaker 4: We didn't know about the concussions, but we knew that.

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Speaker 4: Did he didn't he have hip surgery or coming out

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Speaker 4: of Alabama?

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Speaker 2: Uh, that's yes, accurate, Yeah, he's accurate if I remember correctly.

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Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah.

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Speaker 4: So it's one of those things where one of the

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Speaker 4: knocks on him is he may be injury prone, which

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Speaker 4: we're it's playing out in front of our eyes. And yes,

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Speaker 4: when he's there, Uh, the offense is fun and it's

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Speaker 4: electric and it's happy. But if he's not there, then

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Speaker 4: you just like you said, I'm just out there. He's

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Speaker 4: too good of a player and his prime to not

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Speaker 4: be utilized. So I'm sure he's really looking for, uh

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Speaker 4: some suitors who are willing to take on that uh

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Speaker 4: what I was about two years left on his deal.

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Speaker 2: Well, I think we're getting pretty close to ye funny

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Speaker 2: money portion.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, so this won't be a you know, oh,

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Speaker 4: we can't this. This is it's a team friendly deal

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Speaker 4: at this point.

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Speaker 2: At this point it is yeah, yes, yeah, right now,

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Speaker 2: Tyreek Hill.

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Speaker 5: The playoff schedule is out, gout. Oh, we don't have

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Speaker 5: to wait for the end of this game time. Okay,

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Speaker 5: you can guess, and you only have one guess. Who

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Speaker 5: gets the traditional Saturday afternoon slot to start Wildcard Weekend.

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Speaker 5: It's the Houston Texans at home, Ladies and gentlemen, again,

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Speaker 5: the worst of the division winners. The four seed Houston

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Speaker 5: Texans are hosting the Chargers this Saturday four thirty pm

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Speaker 5: Eastern Time, and then this Saturday night's playoff game is

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Speaker 5: on Prime video only unless you live in Pittsburgh or Baltimore.

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Speaker 5: Pittsburgh at Baltimore this Saturday night. Three playoff games Next Sunday.

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Speaker 5: It will start with Denver at Buffalo at one pm Eastern.

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Speaker 5: The Fox TV game next Sunday is Green Bay at

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Speaker 5: two seed Philadelphia four to thirty eastern. Next Sunday night,

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Speaker 5: Washington at Tampa Bay eight Eastern time. Again, the Rams

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Speaker 5: could have been in that slot. They rested starters and

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Speaker 5: lost a close one at home. So the Rams are

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Speaker 5: the four seed. They will be home on a Monday

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Speaker 5: night week from tomorrow, January thirteen. The loser of tonight's

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Speaker 5: game at the Rams on Monday the thirteenth once again

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Speaker 5: the Fox TV game next Sunday afternoon, four thirty eastern

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Speaker 5: Green Bay at Philadelphia back to you.

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Speaker 2: Great, great to have that info. And oh, by the way,

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Speaker 2: I hadn't even thought of this. That means that the Rams,

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Speaker 2: because they decided to go out there and lose today,

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Speaker 2: they will either be hosting La Kid and former Trojan

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Speaker 2: Sam Darnold or we get to do the Jared golf

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Speaker 2: ball over again.

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Speaker 3: How are Yeah?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, look, it's exciting. It's an exciting time. I love

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Speaker 4: the fact that it's coming down to the final game

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Speaker 4: of the regular season. We had some, you know, some

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Speaker 4: games we normally wouldn't watch, but this, you know, the

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Speaker 4: Atlanta game against Carolina was interesting. The fact that they

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Speaker 4: forgot to show up was unbelievable. I mean, it looked

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Speaker 4: like Tampa Bay was trying to give that thing away,

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Speaker 4: and so just it was. It was weird, like, hey,

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Speaker 4: don't you guys know you have to win, but leave

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Speaker 4: it up to Baker Mayfield and Tampa Bay to make

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Speaker 4: it dramatic and exciting and come down to the end.

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Speaker 4: And then of course I love the fact that Mike

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Speaker 4: Evans was able to number one, get his three million

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Speaker 4: dollar bonus incentive bonus and then get his eleventh straight

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Speaker 4: year with a thousand yards receiving. And no other person

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Speaker 4: has ever done that except for the one and only no,

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Speaker 4: not Steve the Seger.

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Speaker 3: No else, Jerry Rice. Yes, yes, Yeah, that was the

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Speaker 3: coolest moment of that.

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Speaker 4: That was unbelievable.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and we got more.

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Speaker 2: I actually want to ask you about a bunch of

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Speaker 2: different stuff with that play, and we'll do that in

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Speaker 2: a little bit. Also coming up now, let's get to

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Speaker 2: the Patriots, the loss of the first pick and then

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Speaker 2: the coaches loss of his job, all of that coming

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Speaker 2: up with it from Salama Mark Well, this is Fox

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Speaker 2: Sports Radio.

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Speaker 1: Fox Sports Radio has the best sports talk lineup in

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Speaker 1: the nation. Catch all of our shows at foxsports Radio

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Speaker 2: Arethe tie rag dot com studios. Well, Ephraim, we've already

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Speaker 2: got our first Dan Campbell moment? What'd you think? Did

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Speaker 2: he do it right?

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Speaker 3: I hate that song? Hi yay, hey yay.

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Speaker 4: Right hitting the cough now, I can't be hitting the

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Speaker 4: ball man, and I'm just playing down teasing.

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Speaker 3: I'm teasing half five up. Did he do it right? Yes?

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Speaker 3: I agree with you. I agree with you. Fourth and five.

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Speaker 2: From the Vikings thirty nine yard line. So he passes

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Speaker 2: on a fifty six yard field goal and instead goes

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Speaker 2: forward on fourth and five. Good looking blitz from the Vikings,

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Speaker 2: but Jared Goff is able to handle it and finds

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Speaker 2: Jamison Williams for a first down, and on the next play,

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Speaker 2: Jamier Gibbs goes twenty five yards untouched pay dirt, seven

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Speaker 2: to nothing, ditoit.

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Speaker 4: And the crazy thing is you'll get those like that's

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Speaker 4: the thing that fuels the insanity. Whoa that happened earlier.

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Speaker 4: Let's let's do it again. And then all it takes

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Speaker 4: is one. All it takes is one and crucial moments,

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Speaker 4: All it takes is one, and so you can be.

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Speaker 3: Like, yeah, we did it, we did it. We did it.

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Speaker 4: And then the fourth fourth quarter you're up by two

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Speaker 4: and you decide you want to put the game away

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Speaker 4: and you go for it and don't get it, and

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Speaker 4: then they go down and kick a field goal and

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Speaker 4: win the game. That's that's what happens when there's no regulation,

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00:37:38,600 --> 00:37:44,359
Speaker 4: when there's no there's no you know, there there is

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Speaker 4: no breaks, all gas, no breaks. That's what it That's

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Speaker 4: what it feels like when you're in a car going downhill.

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Speaker 4: It's fun for the first couple of seconds and then

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Speaker 4: you're like, hey, well, how were we going to throw

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Speaker 4: this thing down? So it's gonna be a good game though,

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Speaker 4: you know it's gonna be a good game.

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Speaker 3: Oh oh yeah.

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Speaker 2: This is just getting started because as I said, and

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Speaker 2: I happened to be in the building on Monday night

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Speaker 2: for a game that was odd because a quirk of

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Speaker 2: the of the way the schedule worked for the Lions,

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Speaker 2: it didn't matter. And that's what we talked about last week,

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Speaker 2: like why is Dan Campbell playing all of his people

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Speaker 2: against the forty nine ers on Monday night because they're

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Speaker 2: going to be playing for the one seed either way

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Speaker 2: the following week. But Dan Campbell has all gassed, no breaks,

658
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Speaker 2: and he went for it. And I can't remember the

659
00:38:39,280 --> 00:38:42,480
Speaker 2: score at halftime, but it was a lot to a lot,

660
00:38:43,400 --> 00:38:47,000
Speaker 2: and it had a lot of fireworks to it and

661
00:38:47,040 --> 00:38:50,680
Speaker 2: weather controlled environments. Right now, with the Detroit Lions football team,

662
00:38:50,800 --> 00:38:54,160
Speaker 2: you're going to get a lot of fireworks because obviously

663
00:38:54,200 --> 00:38:57,160
Speaker 2: they can score the football. And I also think their

664
00:38:57,239 --> 00:39:01,000
Speaker 2: defense is really going to struggle now as they say

665
00:39:01,040 --> 00:39:03,239
Speaker 2: that they get a sack inside the five yard night.

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Speaker 4: I don't know, so what Sam, Sam Donald, all of

667
00:39:05,840 --> 00:39:09,080
Speaker 4: a sudden thought he was athletic, Sam, you like, I.

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00:39:09,040 --> 00:39:11,279
Speaker 3: Want to I want to play for the Raiders next year.

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00:39:12,040 --> 00:39:13,160
Speaker 3: This bru throw.

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Speaker 4: Just throw it away right there, just right out of bounce, yep,

671
00:39:16,920 --> 00:39:19,040
Speaker 4: right out of bounce. Get the line of scrimmage door

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Speaker 4: it just move up and now it's not second in

673
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Speaker 4: forever on the three yard line.

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Speaker 3: On the three yard line.

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Speaker 4: Now you bringing the second and twenty seven.

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00:39:29,520 --> 00:39:32,920
Speaker 3: Whole new thing into the uh second and twenty seven.

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Speaker 3: All right. So that's the situation in Detroit. We'll keep

678
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Speaker 3: you up to date.

679
00:39:38,400 --> 00:39:41,840
Speaker 2: The situation in New England that we need to discuss

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Speaker 2: and we will next We expected offense. I think we're

681
00:39:48,880 --> 00:39:52,680
Speaker 2: going to get offense right now. Ooh, the defenses are

682
00:39:52,800 --> 00:39:57,400
Speaker 2: hitting in Detroit. Lions leads seven to nothing Minnesota with

683
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Speaker 2: the ball with a real good field position to start there.

684
00:40:00,160 --> 00:40:04,080
Speaker 2: Next effort early second quarter after the Vikings push the

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Speaker 2: Lions backwards, then backwards some more and backwards err to.

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Speaker 3: Finish off that last drive.

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Speaker 3: Be e from.

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Speaker 2: Well, obviously having all Lions Vikings watch party right now,

693
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Speaker 2: But it was not a party to watch the New

694
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Speaker 2: England Patriots play football this year.

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Speaker 3: And it ended up being a really wild day there.

696
00:40:38,560 --> 00:40:42,360
Speaker 2: And if I'm a fan, I've got all kinds of questions.

697
00:40:42,560 --> 00:40:45,400
Speaker 3: I think it's not as easy as we make it

698
00:40:45,600 --> 00:40:46,920
Speaker 3: sound to.

699
00:40:46,960 --> 00:40:50,439
Speaker 2: Go out there and just, you know, lose a football game.

700
00:40:50,880 --> 00:40:55,640
Speaker 2: Come on, guys, like Chop chop, go lose. I don't

701
00:40:55,640 --> 00:40:58,200
Speaker 2: know how you do that. You can pull starters, you

702
00:40:58,239 --> 00:41:01,320
Speaker 2: cannot play starters. They did that, and then the Bills

703
00:41:01,320 --> 00:41:04,279
Speaker 2: did the exact same thing and the Patriots won a

704
00:41:04,280 --> 00:41:05,520
Speaker 2: football game, we can.

705
00:41:05,400 --> 00:41:09,240
Speaker 3: Talk about that aspect. And then there is the.

706
00:41:09,040 --> 00:41:19,840
Speaker 2: Firing of a handpicked Bill Belichick's successor after one season. Listen,

707
00:41:21,600 --> 00:41:24,320
Speaker 2: I don't know what was going on behind the scenes.

708
00:41:25,000 --> 00:41:27,839
Speaker 2: If I'm a fan of that football team, I got

709
00:41:27,880 --> 00:41:28,520
Speaker 2: a big.

710
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Speaker 3: What four for Robert Kraft.

711
00:41:31,360 --> 00:41:34,840
Speaker 2: And I rarely say this because as media members, I

712
00:41:34,840 --> 00:41:37,200
Speaker 2: don't think it's great for us to be like, you

713
00:41:37,320 --> 00:41:40,720
Speaker 2: need to speak to the media. That's kind of disingenuous.

714
00:41:40,719 --> 00:41:44,440
Speaker 2: But if I'm Robert Kraft, I owe an explanation to

715
00:41:44,480 --> 00:41:48,279
Speaker 2: the fans that I spent essentially five years coming up

716
00:41:48,320 --> 00:41:50,520
Speaker 2: with this idea and then I move on from it.

717
00:41:50,480 --> 00:41:56,440
Speaker 3: Seventeen games later. That's pretty wild. Yeah.

718
00:41:57,200 --> 00:42:04,719
Speaker 4: I think it's one of those things where winning that

719
00:42:04,840 --> 00:42:12,799
Speaker 4: game right put you in a situation where you know,

720
00:42:12,920 --> 00:42:16,960
Speaker 4: you may not feel like you guys are on the

721
00:42:16,960 --> 00:42:23,120
Speaker 4: same page, right, Like, coaches don't coach to lose. They don't. Yeah,

722
00:42:23,239 --> 00:42:27,800
Speaker 4: draft picks are great, but coaches can't coach to lose.

723
00:42:27,920 --> 00:42:32,360
Speaker 3: It's not it's I don't know how you would do that.

724
00:42:32,520 --> 00:42:34,759
Speaker 3: How would you go about doing that? Right?

725
00:42:34,920 --> 00:42:40,200
Speaker 4: So, if they felt like he didn't do enough to

726
00:42:40,640 --> 00:42:45,480
Speaker 4: not win right, if the messaging all week were, hey, man,

727
00:42:45,640 --> 00:42:48,440
Speaker 4: I don't worry about the draft pick. Were going out

728
00:42:48,440 --> 00:42:52,120
Speaker 4: here to play, right, and I want your bet, Like,

729
00:42:52,680 --> 00:42:55,600
Speaker 4: then you guys aren't on the same page, and that

730
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Speaker 4: could be the reason why, you know, it's like, okay, look,

731
00:43:01,400 --> 00:43:03,799
Speaker 4: we're just not on the same page. We're gonna we're

732
00:43:03,800 --> 00:43:06,240
Speaker 4: gonna rip this band aid off again and we're gonna

733
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Speaker 4: go completely away from Belichick, which I believe they have

734
00:43:10,400 --> 00:43:15,680
Speaker 4: to do in order to change the franchise back right

735
00:43:15,760 --> 00:43:18,880
Speaker 4: and continue to grow into a into a new error.

736
00:43:20,760 --> 00:43:25,359
Speaker 4: They have to part ways. You can't, right, you can't

737
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Speaker 4: break up with your girlfriend or your wife and then

738
00:43:27,800 --> 00:43:32,440
Speaker 4: still go to their family's house for holidays, like especially

739
00:43:32,440 --> 00:43:34,319
Speaker 4: if I don't have no kids, right, It's just like

740
00:43:34,920 --> 00:43:36,799
Speaker 4: y'all have no kids, and all of a sudden, it's

741
00:43:36,840 --> 00:43:39,279
Speaker 4: just like, hey, I'm just over here. Your mama was

742
00:43:39,320 --> 00:43:42,040
Speaker 4: cooking castle role But you don't.

743
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Speaker 3: Think it was about today, do you? No.

744
00:43:44,360 --> 00:43:49,200
Speaker 4: I just think I think they really want to not

745
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Speaker 4: mismanage a first round quarterback again like they just did,

746
00:43:55,640 --> 00:43:58,719
Speaker 4: and so I think they want to bring in someone

747
00:43:58,840 --> 00:44:03,359
Speaker 4: who is going to have a special affinity for a young,

748
00:44:03,480 --> 00:44:09,719
Speaker 4: talented quarterback and build the franchise around that, opposed to,

749
00:44:10,920 --> 00:44:16,239
Speaker 4: you know, that defense Belichick way. I think there, we're

750
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Speaker 4: ushering into a new NFL, So you got to be

751
00:44:19,960 --> 00:44:23,520
Speaker 4: able to have somewhat of a quarterback whisperer with you.

752
00:44:23,960 --> 00:44:26,919
Speaker 4: Because these young I mean, Drake May's talented, he's big,

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Speaker 4: he's got the size, all of that. You don't want

754
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Speaker 4: to waste. You don't want to waste him like you

755
00:44:32,280 --> 00:44:33,360
Speaker 4: wasted Mac Jones.

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Speaker 3: You don't. And so I think that's what.

757
00:44:39,800 --> 00:44:44,279
Speaker 4: They're really that's the direction they want to go, and

758
00:44:44,560 --> 00:44:46,319
Speaker 4: I think that's the direction they should go in.

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Speaker 3: I understand that.

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Speaker 2: I mean, it's pretty alluring when you look around the

761
00:44:52,160 --> 00:44:54,440
Speaker 2: NFL right now. I mean, look at this division that

762
00:44:54,480 --> 00:44:57,120
Speaker 2: we're watching right now, and I know, you know, Dan

763
00:44:57,200 --> 00:45:00,480
Speaker 2: Campbell is not a quarterback whisperer, but he played tight

764
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Speaker 2: end and he's got Ben Johnson right along his side, absolutely,

765
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Speaker 2: and what O'Connell is doing in Minnesota, what lafleur is

766
00:45:09,680 --> 00:45:13,880
Speaker 2: doing right in Green Bay, And then you think about

767
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Speaker 2: what's already just kind of on standby in the NFC

768
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Speaker 2: West with the success over the last handful of years

769
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Speaker 2: of McVeigh and Shanahan and then you look at what

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Speaker 2: the Commanders came forward and were able to do with

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Speaker 2: Cliff Kingsbury and Jayden Daniels, like I get it, I

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Speaker 2: get it.

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Speaker 3: And even Andy Reid.

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Speaker 2: I mean, I'm not saying that you have to have

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Speaker 2: some offensive guru as your head coach in order to

776
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Speaker 2: win in the NFL, but it.

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Speaker 4: Helps them, is there, Like you can you can look

778
00:45:47,160 --> 00:45:56,239
Speaker 4: what Look what Brian day Ball did with with which right,

779
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Speaker 4: like it that really matters.

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Speaker 3: That.

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Speaker 4: That's why Chicago has taken the approach they've taken, like

782
00:46:03,080 --> 00:46:05,440
Speaker 4: we're not about to waste two three years and then

783
00:46:05,560 --> 00:46:07,480
Speaker 4: be like, oh well we should have done it. This

784
00:46:07,560 --> 00:46:09,600
Speaker 4: what No man, they They're like, all right, this is

785
00:46:09,680 --> 00:46:11,719
Speaker 4: not working. Hit the button boom, We're gonna we're gonna

786
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Speaker 4: figure this thing out. And I think I think Drake

787
00:46:16,040 --> 00:46:19,920
Speaker 4: May is like, thank goodness, right, and look, New England

788
00:46:20,280 --> 00:46:23,960
Speaker 4: settled down. You guys have been spoiled. You got six championships. Relax,

789
00:46:24,920 --> 00:46:27,760
Speaker 4: it's gonna it's gonna be a little bumpy for a minute.

790
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Speaker 4: But once you get it right, you get it right.

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Speaker 4: It's obviously a great franchise ownership fans. So just this

792
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Speaker 4: is what happens when you lose two all time greats

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Speaker 4: within three years of each other.

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Speaker 2: No doubt, no doubt. I'd also I'd also say this

795
00:46:47,440 --> 00:46:50,480
Speaker 2: though about today. I mean, that's bigger picture stuff, and

796
00:46:50,520 --> 00:46:52,759
Speaker 2: that makes sense to me. I do still think then

797
00:46:52,960 --> 00:46:56,120
Speaker 2: that it's a fair question to say, why did you

798
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Speaker 2: go about making this? You know, why was this your

799
00:47:00,239 --> 00:47:02,640
Speaker 2: hand picked successor to begin with? But here we are,

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Speaker 2: and then you get to today and you go, Okay,

801
00:47:07,239 --> 00:47:09,680
Speaker 2: is there something like you just said it? Coaches and

802
00:47:09,719 --> 00:47:12,759
Speaker 2: players cannot be asked to lose. I don't know how

803
00:47:12,800 --> 00:47:16,000
Speaker 2: you would actually go about doing that, but there are

804
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Speaker 2: things that you can do, and I wonder if in

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00:47:20,719 --> 00:47:25,520
Speaker 2: today's day and age you couldn't if your ownership do

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Speaker 2: things that are within the rules. I mean, like my

807
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Speaker 2: practice squad is coming up. They're coming up that day,

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Speaker 2: and I'm making up whatever pr comment you want from me.

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Speaker 4: But you all no problem. You also have to remember

810
00:47:41,680 --> 00:47:45,400
Speaker 4: those guys are hungry. You put a bunch of wolves.

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Speaker 4: I get it, But they're not good players, right, But

812
00:47:49,760 --> 00:47:53,000
Speaker 4: they're not good. That's not true that there are players

813
00:47:53,000 --> 00:47:58,200
Speaker 4: in the NFL. Okay, it's not divisions two? Uh in

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Speaker 4: AI ad.

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Speaker 2: To know I'm within the framework of what we're talking about, though,

816
00:48:04,719 --> 00:48:08,360
Speaker 2: these are not people who are experienced at playing NFL

817
00:48:08,480 --> 00:48:11,760
Speaker 2: football at the level of who they are going up against.

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Speaker 4: Talent and hunger is a hell of a mix.

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Speaker 3: All right, So then what would you have done?

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Speaker 4: Because the Patriots, there's really nothing you can do, Like

821
00:48:22,360 --> 00:48:24,680
Speaker 4: you you have to it has to become in the

822
00:48:24,719 --> 00:48:27,520
Speaker 4: play calling, right, Like, so they put a game plan

823
00:48:27,600 --> 00:48:31,000
Speaker 4: in so if you start calling things that I mean,

824
00:48:31,040 --> 00:48:36,080
Speaker 4: but Drake has obviously he has a full command of

825
00:48:36,400 --> 00:48:38,080
Speaker 4: the well, he didn't even play today, so.

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Speaker 2: He didn't play through one pass went out and he

827
00:48:40,640 --> 00:48:42,239
Speaker 2: threw one pass it took him out.

828
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Speaker 4: So, like, having the full command of the offense is

829
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Speaker 4: something that a backup quarterback doesn't have.

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Speaker 3: So if you call.

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Speaker 4: Uh, single left twenty three scat eye double hook and

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Speaker 4: he like, wait what we didn't?

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Speaker 3: Who is what? What's the read? Right?

834
00:49:05,239 --> 00:49:09,640
Speaker 4: Like, that's probably the only way you could you know,

835
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Speaker 4: hedge that. But j Meyow doesn't strike me as a

836
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Speaker 4: type of coach that is going to take his take

837
00:49:17,239 --> 00:49:19,799
Speaker 4: a like it reminds me of someone with the ilk

838
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Speaker 4: of Dang Campbell, Like we're going to win the meaningless

839
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Speaker 4: game at the end of the season that they did

840
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Speaker 4: three years ago and give up the first round draft pick.

841
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Speaker 4: I give up the first pick in the draft.

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00:49:29,719 --> 00:49:32,200
Speaker 3: Excuse me, we need.

843
00:49:31,960 --> 00:49:35,480
Speaker 2: To interrupt this conversation about the Patriots to talk about

844
00:49:36,040 --> 00:49:40,080
Speaker 2: the team that you trusted with regard to their play.

845
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Speaker 3: I didn't like that. You didn't like it. I don't

846
00:49:42,680 --> 00:49:42,880
Speaker 3: like that.

847
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Speaker 4: It's it's it's contagious in there. Get out of it, right,

848
00:49:47,080 --> 00:49:50,520
Speaker 4: So take the points man, always fourth and goal, fourth.

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00:49:50,280 --> 00:49:52,880
Speaker 2: And goal inside the five, and the Bikers go for

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00:49:53,000 --> 00:49:55,520
Speaker 2: it and they turn it over on downs. Now there

851
00:49:55,560 --> 00:49:58,760
Speaker 2: is something to add to this equation, though. If Kevin

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Speaker 2: O'Connell was in a room with you right now and

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Speaker 2: it was just the two of you and there were

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Speaker 2: no microphones, he'd say from I know you didn't like

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Speaker 2: the play call, and that's a risk that I took.

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00:50:11,320 --> 00:50:15,919
Speaker 2: But at the same time, my quarterback, who's right now

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Speaker 2: playing for a brand new, fancy starting quarterback contract, he

858
00:50:21,360 --> 00:50:23,920
Speaker 2: had Jordan Addison by himself on the right side of

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Speaker 2: the end zone, and he didn't pull the trigger, didn't

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Speaker 2: throw it to him.

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Speaker 3: That was wide open.

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Speaker 4: What I would say is take the three points man. Yeah,

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Speaker 4: I promise you it's going to matter. When you're going

864
00:50:39,960 --> 00:50:42,239
Speaker 4: up against Detroit, you take all the points you can

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Speaker 4: because they will leave some out there. Yep, right, that's

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Speaker 4: a four point game. I hear you, the four point game.

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Speaker 4: You gotta take the points, take all the threes you

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Speaker 4: could take and get one six and you'll find yourself

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Speaker 4: and okay, well I like this. You gotta take those

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00:51:00,920 --> 00:51:05,239
Speaker 4: points with you as I would. As I would have

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Speaker 4: done it too. Driving down the field on the road

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Speaker 4: and not come and coming away it has the adverse effect.

873
00:51:13,040 --> 00:51:16,400
Speaker 4: No one talks about the mental aspect of the game,

874
00:51:16,480 --> 00:51:21,440
Speaker 4: the wear and tearmentally of the game, because we're so analytical.

875
00:51:22,480 --> 00:51:26,960
Speaker 4: You drive down the field six, seven, eight, ten plays

876
00:51:27,440 --> 00:51:31,280
Speaker 4: and come away with nothing. It's deflating to the offensive lineman,

877
00:51:31,560 --> 00:51:36,640
Speaker 4: to the running backs, to everybody. That's the point. No

878
00:51:36,680 --> 00:51:40,360
Speaker 4: one talks about that aspect of it. That's a huge,

879
00:51:41,239 --> 00:51:48,080
Speaker 4: huge issue. You're you're single handedly deflating your team's morale

880
00:51:49,719 --> 00:51:54,080
Speaker 4: when you make decisions like that. I bet you never

881
00:51:54,120 --> 00:51:54,480
Speaker 4: heard that.

882
00:51:54,520 --> 00:51:54,759
Speaker 3: Take.

883
00:51:57,680 --> 00:52:00,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's not that's not something. I here a lot

884
00:52:00,680 --> 00:52:03,239
Speaker 2: and I get that, and I already I'm with you.

885
00:52:03,320 --> 00:52:06,040
Speaker 2: I would have taken the three. I just think that

886
00:52:06,080 --> 00:52:09,960
Speaker 2: there is a piece of the conversation to uh, hey, Sam,

887
00:52:10,320 --> 00:52:12,760
Speaker 2: where were you on that one, because we would feel different.

888
00:52:12,960 --> 00:52:17,840
Speaker 4: Well, he's also face hit with helmets. Yeah, that's what

889
00:52:18,080 --> 00:52:21,080
Speaker 4: they're blitzing. They're they're coming, Yeah, they're coming.

890
00:52:21,520 --> 00:52:23,720
Speaker 3: So he had that throw, he had it, the lane

891
00:52:23,800 --> 00:52:26,080
Speaker 3: was there. He just he just didn't pull the trigger.

892
00:52:26,120 --> 00:52:28,680
Speaker 4: Oh that's a safety. That's a safety.

893
00:52:30,080 --> 00:52:30,640
Speaker 3: It sure is.

894
00:52:30,760 --> 00:52:32,920
Speaker 4: It's gonna be a penalty because he just threw it

895
00:52:32,960 --> 00:52:34,400
Speaker 4: at the back of an offensive lineman.

896
00:52:34,880 --> 00:52:35,320
Speaker 3: Yeah.

897
00:52:35,440 --> 00:52:38,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, they're calling it incomplete right now. Oh wait, no,

898
00:52:38,320 --> 00:52:45,800
Speaker 2: they're they're pointing at the refs are pointing at Jamier Gibbs. No, now,

899
00:52:45,840 --> 00:52:48,480
Speaker 2: they're huddling up. We'll see. This is one of those

900
00:52:48,480 --> 00:52:50,439
Speaker 2: where the flag may come flying up later.

901
00:52:51,120 --> 00:52:51,480
Speaker 3: All right.

902
00:52:53,280 --> 00:52:56,440
Speaker 2: The uh yeah, right now, they're gonna call this an

903
00:52:56,480 --> 00:52:57,600
Speaker 2: incomplete pass.

904
00:52:57,520 --> 00:52:59,920
Speaker 4: Did not fire off the back of an offensive lineman.

905
00:53:00,120 --> 00:53:07,040
Speaker 6: I'd have to see the play again. Run the play.

906
00:53:07,680 --> 00:53:12,719
Speaker 6: You can't shotgun into the back that one.

907
00:53:13,800 --> 00:53:15,920
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, Jamier Gibbs is right there.

908
00:53:15,760 --> 00:53:17,919
Speaker 4: But he just hit the offensive lineman with the ball.

909
00:53:18,120 --> 00:53:19,400
Speaker 4: That's illegal touching.

910
00:53:19,360 --> 00:53:22,320
Speaker 2: Right, But Jamier Gibbs is right next to the offensive lineman,

911
00:53:22,960 --> 00:53:23,319
Speaker 2: so that.

912
00:53:23,360 --> 00:53:27,200
Speaker 4: He like I mean, but what I'm saying is if

913
00:53:27,239 --> 00:53:29,360
Speaker 4: I'm standing next to the running back and the quarterback

914
00:53:29,440 --> 00:53:34,560
Speaker 4: hits me with the ball, that yeah, but illegal touching

915
00:53:34,640 --> 00:53:35,799
Speaker 4: no matter who's around me.

916
00:53:35,920 --> 00:53:36,600
Speaker 3: You I can't.

917
00:53:37,040 --> 00:53:38,839
Speaker 4: I can't be the first to touch the ball because

918
00:53:38,840 --> 00:53:40,040
Speaker 4: I'm not an eligible receiver.

919
00:53:40,480 --> 00:53:41,680
Speaker 3: No, but yes you can.

920
00:53:41,760 --> 00:53:43,640
Speaker 2: If you're throwing it to a running back and you

921
00:53:43,760 --> 00:53:47,399
Speaker 2: just make a bad throw, No you can't.

922
00:53:47,400 --> 00:53:49,840
Speaker 3: It's a llegal touch if he actually catches.

923
00:53:49,480 --> 00:53:51,919
Speaker 4: The ball, no, no, no, no. If it touches an

924
00:53:51,920 --> 00:53:54,120
Speaker 4: offensive player who is not eligible.

925
00:53:55,440 --> 00:53:57,120
Speaker 2: What if he drops back and throws it and it

926
00:53:57,200 --> 00:54:01,040
Speaker 2: hits an offensive lineman's helmet, that's not a penalty. Like,

927
00:54:01,680 --> 00:54:03,960
Speaker 2: trust me, I know what you're saying. But if it's

928
00:54:03,960 --> 00:54:07,600
Speaker 2: an if, it's if it's considered to be errant or

929
00:54:08,600 --> 00:54:12,880
Speaker 2: you know, not intended to be, so it's not a penalty.

930
00:54:12,960 --> 00:54:13,920
Speaker 3: They're talking about it now.

931
00:54:13,960 --> 00:54:18,560
Speaker 4: I wish we could hear yeah, like I'm I'm with you.

932
00:54:18,640 --> 00:54:21,520
Speaker 2: I think the intent of this whole thing is brutal

933
00:54:21,560 --> 00:54:25,600
Speaker 2: because Jamiir Gibbs is literally almost he's behind Jared Goff

934
00:54:25,640 --> 00:54:28,520
Speaker 2: practically when that throw is gone. But I understand where

935
00:54:28,520 --> 00:54:31,040
Speaker 2: the refs are coming from. Where the idea is, is

936
00:54:31,040 --> 00:54:32,520
Speaker 2: there an eligible receiver.

937
00:54:32,239 --> 00:54:36,680
Speaker 3: In the area. There was, there was, but yeah, the

938
00:54:36,719 --> 00:54:38,279
Speaker 3: Lions kind of got away with one man.

939
00:54:38,360 --> 00:54:40,680
Speaker 4: Man did they ever be they got They had the

940
00:54:40,680 --> 00:54:43,080
Speaker 4: ball all the way out to the twenty five yard line. Yeah,

941
00:54:43,120 --> 00:54:46,719
Speaker 4: that's a game changer, that is that's a safety and

942
00:54:46,800 --> 00:54:47,600
Speaker 4: it's seven to two.

943
00:54:48,160 --> 00:54:49,799
Speaker 3: Yep, it's a hell of a one to two punch

944
00:54:49,880 --> 00:54:50,960
Speaker 3: to go for it on fourth down.

945
00:54:51,040 --> 00:54:56,200
Speaker 2: You don't get it, then you get that call and boom.

946
00:54:56,480 --> 00:55:01,880
Speaker 2: That's that's a gut punch for the Minnesota Vikings. The

947
00:55:01,920 --> 00:55:04,879
Speaker 2: New England Patriots were not the only team to get

948
00:55:04,920 --> 00:55:07,239
Speaker 2: hosed by their victory today. I want to talk about

949
00:55:07,280 --> 00:55:09,560
Speaker 2: that with you a little bit next and we will

950
00:55:09,600 --> 00:55:11,800
Speaker 2: with you from Sala Mark Willard. It's Fox Sports Radio,

951
00:55:13,160 --> 00:55:16,000
Speaker 2: oh tyright dot Com Studios. It's a lot going on

952
00:55:16,080 --> 00:55:22,120
Speaker 2: in this game. Right right after we went to break,

953
00:55:22,200 --> 00:55:27,359
Speaker 2: the Vikings got an interception in the uh in the

954
00:55:27,400 --> 00:55:30,719
Speaker 2: red zone from Jared Golf and they again could not

955
00:55:30,840 --> 00:55:35,800
Speaker 2: punch it in Sam Donold twice, missing Justin Jefferson opened

956
00:55:35,880 --> 00:55:43,440
Speaker 2: both times, and this time they took the three and

957
00:55:43,480 --> 00:55:50,240
Speaker 2: then they almost missed that seven to three Lions about

958
00:55:50,239 --> 00:55:51,320
Speaker 2: halfway through the second.

959
00:55:51,160 --> 00:55:53,719
Speaker 4: Quarter, both teams trying to give it away.

960
00:55:54,080 --> 00:55:59,080
Speaker 3: It's a lot going on, a lot lot going on, right.

961
00:55:58,920 --> 00:56:01,560
Speaker 4: But I did some Peru and I sent you over

962
00:56:01,600 --> 00:56:02,080
Speaker 4: the break.

963
00:56:02,560 --> 00:56:02,920
Speaker 3: I saw it.

964
00:56:03,360 --> 00:56:07,799
Speaker 2: I no, you're not, and I don't want it to

965
00:56:07,880 --> 00:56:09,879
Speaker 2: like I did you see what I sent you back.

966
00:56:10,960 --> 00:56:13,360
Speaker 2: The rule you sent me is based on the idea

967
00:56:13,520 --> 00:56:16,520
Speaker 2: of illegal touching is the idea of the player actually

968
00:56:16,600 --> 00:56:17,200
Speaker 2: catching the.

969
00:56:17,160 --> 00:56:19,560
Speaker 4: Ball does not have to be that. I trust me.

970
00:56:19,600 --> 00:56:22,320
Speaker 4: I've had one of these before. Okay, So it was

971
00:56:22,960 --> 00:56:24,359
Speaker 4: against me before.

972
00:56:24,080 --> 00:56:25,160
Speaker 3: You're telling me.

973
00:56:25,280 --> 00:56:25,840
Speaker 4: I'm standing.

974
00:56:26,040 --> 00:56:29,799
Speaker 2: If the quarterback hold on, if the quarterback drops back

975
00:56:30,360 --> 00:56:34,040
Speaker 2: and it's a screen pass and he throws it and

976
00:56:34,120 --> 00:56:38,200
Speaker 2: it accidentally glances off the shoulder of the offensive lineman, yes,

977
00:56:38,280 --> 00:56:39,799
Speaker 2: and then it's caught the running back.

978
00:56:39,920 --> 00:56:42,400
Speaker 3: You're calling that a penalty. That is a penalty. I

979
00:56:42,400 --> 00:56:43,720
Speaker 3: am disagreeing with you.

980
00:56:43,760 --> 00:56:46,319
Speaker 4: Well, I was out on the screen. I was the

981
00:56:46,440 --> 00:56:51,320
Speaker 4: lead tackle out on the screen. Okay, and uh the

982
00:56:51,480 --> 00:56:54,040
Speaker 4: running back bode behind me and the ball hit off

983
00:56:54,120 --> 00:56:58,480
Speaker 4: the back of my jersey as I was blocking the

984
00:56:58,760 --> 00:57:03,160
Speaker 4: outside linebacker, and the penalty was illegal touching.

985
00:57:03,680 --> 00:57:06,399
Speaker 2: Well, the referee needs to have a little talking too.

986
00:57:06,560 --> 00:57:09,440
Speaker 2: Because so you're telling me. If the quarterback drops back

987
00:57:09,480 --> 00:57:11,440
Speaker 2: and tries to throw a pass over the middle, but

988
00:57:11,520 --> 00:57:15,200
Speaker 2: it glances off the helmet of an offensive and goes

989
00:57:15,200 --> 00:57:17,120
Speaker 2: straight up in the air, that's illegal touching.

990
00:57:17,280 --> 00:57:20,640
Speaker 4: I'm just there's no way. I'm telling you what it is.

991
00:57:20,680 --> 00:57:20,880
Speaker 3: Mark.

992
00:57:20,920 --> 00:57:23,840
Speaker 4: You can argue this if you want to, But if

993
00:57:23,920 --> 00:57:30,919
Speaker 4: the ball hits an offensive player who was not eligible

994
00:57:31,520 --> 00:57:37,360
Speaker 4: to catch the pass at any time, it's called illegal touching.

995
00:57:37,960 --> 00:57:39,040
Speaker 3: Period.

996
00:57:38,600 --> 00:57:41,880
Speaker 2: I'm texting Perreira because there's no way.

997
00:57:42,000 --> 00:57:45,120
Speaker 3: It just happened. It just happened. It did they call it?

998
00:57:45,120 --> 00:57:47,200
Speaker 3: It literally just happened in the end zone.

999
00:57:47,200 --> 00:57:49,360
Speaker 4: Man, it car I really wanted to hear.

1000
00:57:49,560 --> 00:57:50,160
Speaker 3: I didn't didn't.

1001
00:57:50,240 --> 00:57:52,360
Speaker 4: We didn't get a chance to hear the TV version.

1002
00:57:53,560 --> 00:57:57,360
Speaker 4: But I bet in three minutes, our man, the myth,

1003
00:57:57,400 --> 00:57:59,080
Speaker 4: the legend, can let us in on it. So we'll

1004
00:57:59,160 --> 00:58:01,360
Speaker 4: we'll hold this bay for three minutes.

1005
00:58:01,720 --> 00:58:02,439
Speaker 3: I can't wait.

1006
00:58:02,920 --> 00:58:05,440
Speaker 2: You never, I've never there's never been a better tease

1007
00:58:05,480 --> 00:58:06,560
Speaker 2: in the history of radio.

1008
00:58:07,360 --> 00:58:09,560
Speaker 4: Hey man, look, I'm just letting you know.

1009
00:58:09,600 --> 00:58:15,240
Speaker 2: Man, okay, I'm telling you. I'm telling you, because you

1010
00:58:15,320 --> 00:58:17,600
Speaker 2: played that, you need to go back in time.

1011
00:58:17,640 --> 00:58:20,200
Speaker 4: I've had it hauled against me, and you need.

1012
00:58:20,080 --> 00:58:22,520
Speaker 3: To talk to that ref. And you talk to that ref.

1013
00:58:23,640 --> 00:58:31,000
Speaker 4: I can't believe the Lakers went out here to Atlanta.

1014
00:58:25,720 --> 00:58:30,640
Speaker 3: And sorry, Warriors are down by eighteen in their own

1015
00:58:30,680 --> 00:58:34,200
Speaker 3: building right now anyway for the NBA.

1016
00:58:34,080 --> 00:58:36,880
Speaker 2: Down and it's almost like Steph and Lebron are getting old.

1017
00:58:37,080 --> 00:58:38,600
Speaker 3: I don't know what's going on.

1018
00:58:39,240 --> 00:58:41,240
Speaker 4: I could tell you who getting old. Sam Donald just

1019
00:58:41,280 --> 00:58:46,400
Speaker 4: got old before our eyes. He's had five attempts wide

1020
00:58:46,480 --> 00:58:50,720
Speaker 4: open receivers open inside the ten yard line and he's

1021
00:58:50,720 --> 00:58:51,560
Speaker 4: missed all five of.

1022
00:58:51,520 --> 00:58:54,280
Speaker 2: Them, all of them, and sometimes he doesn't even pull

1023
00:58:54,360 --> 00:58:57,600
Speaker 2: the trigger. So yeah, it's been a bad night for

1024
00:58:57,680 --> 00:58:58,280
Speaker 2: Sam Donald.

1025
00:58:58,360 --> 00:58:59,800
Speaker 3: Already hit it Toga other brother.

1026
00:59:00,280 --> 00:59:02,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, all eyes are on them, but obviously there is

1027
00:59:02,840 --> 00:59:06,919
Speaker 2: plenty of time in what is still a four point game. Hey,

1028
00:59:06,960 --> 00:59:09,120
Speaker 2: before Steve jumps in here, I wanted to throw this

1029
00:59:09,200 --> 00:59:11,919
Speaker 2: at you because remember last week when the New York

1030
00:59:11,960 --> 00:59:14,720
Speaker 2: Giants won a football game and therefore gave up their

1031
00:59:14,800 --> 00:59:18,560
Speaker 2: hands on the top overall pick. And they need a quarterback, Yes,

1032
00:59:18,960 --> 00:59:21,320
Speaker 2: but what did we say. We said, Oh, it transferred

1033
00:59:21,320 --> 00:59:24,720
Speaker 2: to the New England Patriots. They don't need a quarterback,

1034
00:59:25,040 --> 00:59:28,520
Speaker 2: and now they can hold that pick. Hostage because the

1035
00:59:28,560 --> 00:59:32,680
Speaker 2: three teams behind them, Tennessee, Cleveland, and the Giants might

1036
00:59:32,760 --> 00:59:37,040
Speaker 2: all be interested in a quarterback. Well, now, the Patriots

1037
00:59:37,080 --> 00:59:40,560
Speaker 2: went and won a football game, and I would argue

1038
00:59:40,600 --> 00:59:43,680
Speaker 2: the New York Giants, whatever quarterback they had their eyes on.

1039
00:59:45,160 --> 00:59:46,800
Speaker 3: They're not getting them.

1040
00:59:46,920 --> 00:59:49,080
Speaker 2: They're not getting them because the Titans are picking number

1041
00:59:49,120 --> 00:59:52,480
Speaker 2: one overall. And whoever that quarterback is, whether it's Shadour

1042
00:59:53,080 --> 00:59:56,760
Speaker 2: or anyone else who rises as the cream of the

1043
00:59:56,800 --> 01:00:01,880
Speaker 2: crop through the draft process, that man is going to Nashville, Tennessee.

1044
01:00:01,920 --> 01:00:03,200
Speaker 3: He's not going to New York, New York.

1045
01:00:03,280 --> 01:00:07,000
Speaker 4: He's not going to New York. And so, you know,

1046
01:00:07,120 --> 01:00:08,880
Speaker 4: I wonder how Dian feels about that.

1047
01:00:09,280 --> 01:00:12,320
Speaker 3: Yeah, well that's one of the things I'm thinking about.

1048
01:00:12,520 --> 01:00:15,840
Speaker 4: I wonder what that's gonna be like. Is he gonna

1049
01:00:15,840 --> 01:00:17,680
Speaker 4: do a Mate, Is he gonna do a Manning? Is

1050
01:00:17,680 --> 01:00:20,320
Speaker 4: he gonna do an arch Manning? Archie Manning?

1051
01:00:20,880 --> 01:00:29,120
Speaker 3: Right, not going to Tennessee. Yeah? Maybe. I mean they're

1052
01:00:29,160 --> 01:00:29,520
Speaker 3: going to do.

1053
01:00:29,640 --> 01:00:31,080
Speaker 2: Whatever they do, it's going to be out of the

1054
01:00:31,080 --> 01:00:34,400
Speaker 2: box because that's how they drove that family.

1055
01:00:34,960 --> 01:00:38,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, you're right, which I love about absolute.

1056
01:00:40,400 --> 01:00:46,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, they challenged the thought process and so I really

1057
01:00:46,160 --> 01:00:50,840
Speaker 2: wonder about that because, by the way, the difficulty here is,

1058
01:00:51,440 --> 01:00:54,440
Speaker 2: you talk your way out of Nashville, you might end

1059
01:00:54,560 --> 01:00:56,600
Speaker 2: up in Cleveland. And I think that that's worse.

1060
01:00:56,760 --> 01:00:59,160
Speaker 4: Oh, you don't want to do that. You don't want

1061
01:00:59,160 --> 01:01:01,240
Speaker 4: to do that Nashville compared to Cleveland.

1062
01:01:01,680 --> 01:01:04,000
Speaker 3: Right, So what would you do if you were Dion

1063
01:01:04,160 --> 01:01:04,760
Speaker 3: and Schaduer.

1064
01:01:04,960 --> 01:01:08,480
Speaker 4: I'm going to take that. Uh take that Nashville. You

1065
01:01:08,640 --> 01:01:16,280
Speaker 4: gotta take Nashville. You Cleveland is where quarterbacks go to die, period, yep, forever.

1066
01:01:20,040 --> 01:01:23,800
Speaker 2: A lot a lot of money changing hands in the

1067
01:01:23,840 --> 01:01:26,520
Speaker 2: way these two teams have played the last two weeks,

1068
01:01:26,520 --> 01:01:28,760
Speaker 2: the Giants and the Patriots.

1069
01:01:27,600 --> 01:01:31,520
Speaker 4: Ye, craziness for me, Like, I'm like, oh.

1070
01:01:31,360 --> 01:01:35,520
Speaker 3: My goodness, Oh yeah, it's.

1071
01:01:35,320 --> 01:01:37,520
Speaker 4: One of those things where as the GM you secretly

1072
01:01:37,720 --> 01:01:39,360
Speaker 4: you have everybody food poison in the night.

1073
01:01:40,400 --> 01:01:43,160
Speaker 3: Kid, that's right.

1074
01:01:44,000 --> 01:01:49,840
Speaker 2: But but we at all times, whenever possible, stick with

1075
01:01:49,920 --> 01:01:50,880
Speaker 2: the first string.

1076
01:01:52,080 --> 01:01:55,240
Speaker 3: And uh. And that means here comes say, went for

1077
01:01:55,600 --> 01:01:57,440
Speaker 3: fourth and fourth and inches, they missed it.

1078
01:01:57,840 --> 01:01:59,960
Speaker 5: What is going on with these two offenses here?

1079
01:02:00,080 --> 01:02:03,760
Speaker 4: I mean, what is happening? I'll burn the whole building down.

1080
01:02:03,800 --> 01:02:07,920
Speaker 5: Steve Okay, Jared Goff just threw incomplete on fourth and

1081
01:02:07,960 --> 01:02:10,440
Speaker 5: one at the Minnesota forty two. So we still have

1082
01:02:10,680 --> 01:02:12,720
Speaker 5: just a seven to three lead for the home team

1083
01:02:12,760 --> 01:02:16,040
Speaker 5: in Detroit, Lions ahead of the Vikings, a battle of

1084
01:02:16,120 --> 01:02:19,240
Speaker 5: fourteen and two teams. By the way, guys, this is

1085
01:02:19,560 --> 01:02:22,840
Speaker 5: I have read the first matchup in the final week

1086
01:02:23,160 --> 01:02:26,560
Speaker 5: with the winner securing a conference's one seed since the

1087
01:02:26,680 --> 01:02:29,760
Speaker 5: Dallas Classic in nineteen ninety three with Emmett Smith when

1088
01:02:29,800 --> 01:02:33,600
Speaker 5: they won in overtime at the Giants. Everything's at stake here,

1089
01:02:33,800 --> 01:02:38,440
Speaker 5: especially with the structure of the postseason. If the Lions,

1090
01:02:38,440 --> 01:02:41,040
Speaker 5: for example, get a win or a tie tonight, they

1091
01:02:41,040 --> 01:02:43,480
Speaker 5: would not only clinch the NFC North title, they would

1092
01:02:43,480 --> 01:02:46,000
Speaker 5: clinch the one seed in the NFC and therefore have

1093
01:02:46,160 --> 01:02:49,280
Speaker 5: next weekend off Detroit with a great conference record currently

1094
01:02:49,360 --> 01:02:53,840
Speaker 5: at ten to one. That would put the Vikings, despite

1095
01:02:53,880 --> 01:02:57,720
Speaker 5: a great, great regular season, right back on the field

1096
01:02:57,800 --> 01:03:01,880
Speaker 5: next weekend for a Monday night game January thirteenth at

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01:03:01,920 --> 01:03:05,040
Speaker 5: the Rams. More on the Rams. In the moment I mentioned,

1098
01:03:05,080 --> 01:03:07,360
Speaker 5: it's just seven to three about three minutes left first

1099
01:03:07,400 --> 01:03:11,440
Speaker 5: half at Detroit. The Minnesota Vikings have only four first

1100
01:03:11,440 --> 01:03:15,560
Speaker 5: downs in the first half. The Vikings early second quarter

1101
01:03:15,880 --> 01:03:18,320
Speaker 5: had a first and goal at the five and got

1102
01:03:18,360 --> 01:03:20,520
Speaker 5: no points out of it. They went forward on fourth

1103
01:03:20,600 --> 01:03:22,920
Speaker 5: and goal and threw incomplete at the end zone. A

1104
01:03:22,960 --> 01:03:25,920
Speaker 5: few plays later, they did get a tip and an

1105
01:03:25,960 --> 01:03:29,320
Speaker 5: interception got the ball back. So Minnesota had first and

1106
01:03:29,360 --> 01:03:32,120
Speaker 5: goal at the seven and got no touchdown out of

1107
01:03:32,160 --> 01:03:34,720
Speaker 5: that either. In fact, the twenty five yard field goal

1108
01:03:34,880 --> 01:03:38,080
Speaker 5: was barely good from Will Reikert on the fourth and

1109
01:03:38,120 --> 01:03:42,959
Speaker 5: goal at the seventh. It is Detroit seven, Minnesota three.

1110
01:03:43,160 --> 01:03:44,960
Speaker 5: And I don't mean to get in the middle of

1111
01:03:45,000 --> 01:03:49,160
Speaker 5: mom and Dad's argument. I'm just relaying information that former

1112
01:03:49,240 --> 01:03:52,640
Speaker 5: referee Terry McCauley on the Sunday Night Football broadcast thought

1113
01:03:52,680 --> 01:03:56,520
Speaker 5: there should have been a flag thrown for grounding on

1114
01:03:56,560 --> 01:03:58,440
Speaker 5: the game that you were telling.

1115
01:04:01,200 --> 01:04:06,200
Speaker 3: Clapping the clapper for grounding touch touching.

1116
01:04:09,560 --> 01:04:11,040
Speaker 4: Are you familiar with the rule?

1117
01:04:11,600 --> 01:04:16,880
Speaker 5: Yes, not an eligible receiver. His emphasis here mccaulay's was, yeah,

1118
01:04:17,040 --> 01:04:20,000
Speaker 5: your past lands in the vicinity of an eligible receiver.

1119
01:04:20,360 --> 01:04:23,200
Speaker 5: He didn't think it was also thrown in the direction

1120
01:04:23,480 --> 01:04:26,520
Speaker 5: of the receiver, which is how the rule reads. In

1121
01:04:26,560 --> 01:04:29,800
Speaker 5: other words, when the quarterbacks facing an imminent loss of yard,

1122
01:04:29,840 --> 01:04:31,880
Speaker 5: it is just because of pressure from the defense.

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01:04:32,040 --> 01:04:36,080
Speaker 4: That's why grounding comes in, right, but also, are you familiar?

1124
01:04:36,160 --> 01:04:40,640
Speaker 4: Hold on, hold on, hold on, Mom, obviously I'm the

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01:04:40,720 --> 01:04:48,000
Speaker 4: dead hold on, honey. Are you are you familiar with

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01:04:48,040 --> 01:04:49,560
Speaker 4: the illegal touching rule?

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01:04:49,720 --> 01:04:50,560
Speaker 3: Steve? Sure?

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01:04:50,720 --> 01:04:53,360
Speaker 5: Okay, it's why people have to report, It's why you

1129
01:04:53,400 --> 01:04:54,400
Speaker 5: can't throw an alignment.

1130
01:04:54,480 --> 01:04:58,320
Speaker 4: It's yeah, absolutely, okay, course, what in your opinion did

1131
01:04:58,360 --> 01:05:02,840
Speaker 4: you see illegal touch win? The ball cannoned off the

1132
01:05:02,880 --> 01:05:04,120
Speaker 4: offensive lineman's leg.

1133
01:05:04,240 --> 01:05:07,040
Speaker 5: I saw both fels yank you and yes, thank He

1134
01:05:07,120 --> 01:05:10,600
Speaker 5: clearly was getting rid of it to avoid the defensive pressure.

1135
01:05:10,680 --> 01:05:13,760
Speaker 4: Can't do that, which is whether they catch it or not.

1136
01:05:13,960 --> 01:05:15,080
Speaker 4: You can't hit him with the ball.

1137
01:05:15,320 --> 01:05:17,160
Speaker 2: I don't even know if the lineman touched it because

1138
01:05:17,200 --> 01:05:19,400
Speaker 2: it hit his leg. His hands had nothing to do

1139
01:05:19,480 --> 01:05:21,960
Speaker 2: with this thing, all.

1140
01:05:21,960 --> 01:05:26,480
Speaker 5: Right, Minnesota, thank you. Minnesota has won nine in a row,

1141
01:05:26,520 --> 01:05:29,040
Speaker 5: but they're down at the two minute warning late first half,

1142
01:05:29,200 --> 01:05:31,080
Speaker 5: seven to three at Detroit.

1143
01:05:31,360 --> 01:05:34,520
Speaker 4: Once again, Mom thinks she's won the argument, even though

1144
01:05:34,520 --> 01:05:35,120
Speaker 4: she's wrong.

1145
01:05:35,640 --> 01:05:38,600
Speaker 5: Seattle'll beat the Rams at LA thirty to twenty five

1146
01:05:38,760 --> 01:05:41,920
Speaker 5: Gino Smith four touchdown passes. The Rams could have clinched

1147
01:05:41,960 --> 01:05:45,160
Speaker 5: the three seed with a win that goes to Tampa Bay. Instead,

1148
01:05:45,240 --> 01:05:47,680
Speaker 5: the Bucks earlier won at home against New Orleans, so

1149
01:05:47,720 --> 01:05:50,280
Speaker 5: the Bucks clinched the NFC South title for a fourth

1150
01:05:50,280 --> 01:05:54,680
Speaker 5: straight year. Carolina won in overtime at Atlanta. Indianapolis in

1151
01:05:54,760 --> 01:05:58,360
Speaker 5: overtime beat Jacksonville. New England could have had the number

1152
01:05:58,360 --> 01:06:01,520
Speaker 5: one overall draft choice. Instead, they'll be drafting number four

1153
01:06:02,000 --> 01:06:06,120
Speaker 5: in April. New England won at home against Buffalo or

1154
01:06:06,120 --> 01:06:08,840
Speaker 5: at least in Buffalo backups twenty three to sixteen, and

1155
01:06:08,880 --> 01:06:12,880
Speaker 5: the Patriots fired coach Girodmeo after the game. Houston won

1156
01:06:12,920 --> 01:06:16,480
Speaker 5: at Tennessee. The Titans will draft number one overall. Washington

1157
01:06:16,520 --> 01:06:20,200
Speaker 5: won its fifth straight game on a late score at Dallas. Therefore,

1158
01:06:20,320 --> 01:06:24,040
Speaker 5: Washington clinches the sixth seed with the win. Washington at

1159
01:06:24,080 --> 01:06:27,720
Speaker 5: Tampa Bay next Sunday night. Chicago won its game at

1160
01:06:27,720 --> 01:06:29,600
Speaker 5: Green Bay on a fifty one yard field goal on

1161
01:06:29,640 --> 01:06:32,520
Speaker 5: the final play twenty four to twenty two. The Bears

1162
01:06:32,520 --> 01:06:36,920
Speaker 5: had lost ten straight. Philadelphia beat the Giants. Denver gets

1163
01:06:37,080 --> 01:06:39,960
Speaker 5: a win thirty eight nothing over Kansas City to clinch

1164
01:06:39,960 --> 01:06:43,560
Speaker 5: the final AFC playoff spot. Bronco's at Buffalo next Sunday.

1165
01:06:43,680 --> 01:06:46,720
Speaker 5: In the wild card weekend, Chargers won at Las Vegas

1166
01:06:46,800 --> 01:06:49,280
Speaker 5: thirty four to twenty. A Chargers win gives them the

1167
01:06:49,320 --> 01:06:52,280
Speaker 5: five seed in the AFC. Chargers will open at Houston

1168
01:06:52,360 --> 01:06:57,320
Speaker 5: Saturday afternoon. That puts Pittsburgh at Baltimore Saturday night. Arizona

1169
01:06:57,360 --> 01:07:00,240
Speaker 5: beat San Francisco forty seven to twenty four. It was

1170
01:07:00,240 --> 01:07:02,400
Speaker 5: twenty six to twenty four to start the fourth Kyler

1171
01:07:02,480 --> 01:07:05,880
Speaker 5: Murray four touchdown passes. The Jets got four TD passes

1172
01:07:05,880 --> 01:07:09,040
Speaker 5: from Aaron Rodgers and beat Miami thirty two to twenty.

1173
01:07:09,080 --> 01:07:13,520
Speaker 5: Miami finishes eight and nine, and as we mentioned, Tyreek

1174
01:07:13,600 --> 01:07:18,520
Speaker 5: Hill says after the game, come oo, I'm out, bro,

1175
01:07:19,440 --> 01:07:23,640
Speaker 5: He's done in Miami. So coach Mike McDaniel, guys, was

1176
01:07:23,680 --> 01:07:27,480
Speaker 5: asked about that, and he said, well, regarding things stated

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01:07:27,480 --> 01:07:31,320
Speaker 5: to me secondhand, emotions are high, especially after a game

1178
01:07:31,440 --> 01:07:34,880
Speaker 5: like this. There will be conversations that will be direct

1179
01:07:35,160 --> 01:07:38,640
Speaker 5: in the next couple of days. Wo end quote. And

1180
01:07:38,760 --> 01:07:42,080
Speaker 5: the greatest thing the coach then added, there's a lot

1181
01:07:42,120 --> 01:07:44,160
Speaker 5: of power in having a team that wants to stay

1182
01:07:44,160 --> 01:07:46,280
Speaker 5: together and play for a common goal.

1183
01:07:46,800 --> 01:07:47,560
Speaker 3: End quote.

1184
01:07:47,600 --> 01:07:50,680
Speaker 2: Back to you strong and by the way, there's a

1185
01:07:50,680 --> 01:07:52,960
Speaker 2: little more to this than I realized. I don't know

1186
01:07:53,000 --> 01:07:57,720
Speaker 2: if you guys saw McDaniel also alleges that during the

1187
01:07:57,800 --> 01:08:03,800
Speaker 2: game he was informed that Tyreek was quote unavailable. This

1188
01:08:03,840 --> 01:08:06,960
Speaker 2: is after Tyreek had already gone in caught two passes.

1189
01:08:07,760 --> 01:08:10,480
Speaker 2: But this is the Devondre Campbell of the forty nine

1190
01:08:10,560 --> 01:08:14,320
Speaker 2: ers a few weeks ago, all over again. Tyreek just said, no,

1191
01:08:14,400 --> 01:08:15,400
Speaker 2: I'm not going in.

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01:08:15,280 --> 01:08:17,360
Speaker 5: And the coach said he was not informed it was

1193
01:08:17,400 --> 01:08:20,280
Speaker 5: a new injury quote direct. There were guys on the

1194
01:08:20,320 --> 01:08:23,040
Speaker 5: field competing. I was trying to win a game.

1195
01:08:24,640 --> 01:08:26,519
Speaker 3: And not good. It's not good.

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01:08:28,160 --> 01:08:31,120
Speaker 4: No, it's not good. It's a bad look. Definitely a

1197
01:08:31,160 --> 01:08:31,639
Speaker 4: bad look.

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01:08:31,800 --> 01:08:34,760
Speaker 3: I mean, look, here's what I would say about it.

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Speaker 2: And Steve, great, great stuff, and sorry we interrupted you

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01:08:37,920 --> 01:08:42,080
Speaker 2: the entire time. But and by the way, a further

1201
01:08:42,120 --> 01:08:44,439
Speaker 2: proof that I was right. But anyway, we're not. I

1202
01:08:44,479 --> 01:08:46,640
Speaker 2: said that that's the marriage.

1203
01:08:46,880 --> 01:08:47,320
Speaker 3: Okay.

1204
01:08:47,400 --> 01:08:50,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, here, like the actual sentence right here on the

1205
01:08:50,200 --> 01:08:57,360
Speaker 2: intranet worldwide Web. An offensive lineman accidentally catches a deflected pass.

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01:08:58,280 --> 01:09:02,600
Speaker 3: Okay, anyway, it doesn't matter. Well, I sent you a

1207
01:09:02,720 --> 01:09:04,759
Speaker 3: green shot of the rule I.

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01:09:04,640 --> 01:09:09,080
Speaker 2: Know, and that does not count. It doesn't account for

1209
01:09:09,120 --> 01:09:11,559
Speaker 2: it inadvertent. It doesn't account for anything.

1210
01:09:11,680 --> 01:09:16,799
Speaker 4: It touching. They're not eligible to touch the past in any.

1211
01:09:16,560 --> 01:09:19,439
Speaker 2: Way, have you ever signed up to listen to a

1212
01:09:19,479 --> 01:09:24,360
Speaker 2: married couple fight? I just go home anyway, right, So exactly,

1213
01:09:24,520 --> 01:09:27,880
Speaker 2: so we should move on. But anyway, the Tyreek Hill thing,

1214
01:09:28,439 --> 01:09:33,519
Speaker 2: here's one thing I'm gonna notice already. When Devondre Campbell

1215
01:09:33,560 --> 01:09:38,760
Speaker 2: did this three weeks ago, the world outcast him immediately.

1216
01:09:40,040 --> 01:09:45,200
Speaker 2: That's easy to do because he's the second third linebacker

1217
01:09:45,240 --> 01:09:49,320
Speaker 2: on a team. He's not on anybody's fantasy team. He's

1218
01:09:49,360 --> 01:09:52,880
Speaker 2: not considered a key piece, he's none of that. And

1219
01:09:52,920 --> 01:09:55,320
Speaker 2: so immediately the Niners were able to be like, we're

1220
01:09:55,360 --> 01:09:59,000
Speaker 2: never talking to that human being again. He left us

1221
01:09:59,080 --> 01:10:02,400
Speaker 2: high and dry, get him off the team, and we

1222
01:10:02,439 --> 01:10:03,719
Speaker 2: will never see him again.

1223
01:10:03,920 --> 01:10:04,440
Speaker 3: Poof.

1224
01:10:05,200 --> 01:10:06,920
Speaker 2: And it was so easy for all of us to

1225
01:10:06,920 --> 01:10:09,240
Speaker 2: be like, yeah, that's how you handle that situation.

1226
01:10:09,520 --> 01:10:13,000
Speaker 3: How about now, no, man, how about now it's your

1227
01:10:13,080 --> 01:10:16,880
Speaker 3: thirty million dollar receiver. How about now nope.

1228
01:10:18,560 --> 01:10:21,439
Speaker 2: So, I mean, pretty pretty baked in hypocrisy that I'm

1229
01:10:21,479 --> 01:10:22,200
Speaker 2: seeing already.

1230
01:10:22,280 --> 01:10:26,519
Speaker 4: It definitely is and will always be. That's the nature

1231
01:10:26,520 --> 01:10:33,360
Speaker 4: of the beast, That's what it is. I mean, So

1232
01:10:33,479 --> 01:10:35,200
Speaker 4: your other teams are gonna be like, we're not gonna

1233
01:10:35,200 --> 01:10:37,639
Speaker 4: take Tyreek Hill because he didn't want to go into

1234
01:10:37,640 --> 01:10:45,200
Speaker 4: the game with a quarterback who can't pass to himself. No,

1235
01:10:45,479 --> 01:10:46,320
Speaker 4: it's not gonna happen.

1236
01:10:46,760 --> 01:10:48,280
Speaker 3: It's fascinating. I'm gonna happen.

1237
01:10:48,320 --> 01:10:50,840
Speaker 4: You and I agree because our quarterback can pass it

1238
01:10:50,840 --> 01:10:54,480
Speaker 4: to Tarik Hill exact sixty yards down the field exactly.

1239
01:10:55,479 --> 01:10:58,880
Speaker 2: I mean we talked about it last week. We both

1240
01:10:58,920 --> 01:11:04,600
Speaker 2: think Devondre campbell career is over. Yeah, Tyreek Hill have

1241
01:11:04,640 --> 01:11:06,840
Speaker 2: about twenty five teams knocking on the door.

1242
01:11:07,760 --> 01:11:12,120
Speaker 4: Absolutely, they lined up. They trying to see what's going on,

1243
01:11:12,200 --> 01:11:15,840
Speaker 4: y'all getting rid of them. Yeah, Hey, guess what if

1244
01:11:15,840 --> 01:11:19,840
Speaker 4: he would have if it would have took the first three,

1245
01:11:22,200 --> 01:11:23,639
Speaker 4: If he would have took the first they're getting ready

1246
01:11:23,640 --> 01:11:24,600
Speaker 4: to attempt to fiel go.

1247
01:11:24,840 --> 01:11:26,799
Speaker 2: Yeah, but if it takes the first three, they wouldn't

1248
01:11:26,800 --> 01:11:27,879
Speaker 2: have got the second three.

1249
01:11:28,000 --> 01:11:30,680
Speaker 4: That's not necessarily true. But what I'm saying is.

1250
01:11:30,960 --> 01:11:34,479
Speaker 3: I know what you're saying. I know they agreed with you.

1251
01:11:34,520 --> 01:11:35,880
Speaker 3: They'd be up going to the half.

1252
01:11:36,200 --> 01:11:40,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, well both you're right that O'Connell caught Dan Campbell.

1253
01:11:41,800 --> 01:11:46,519
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, I'm just like, these points, these points

1254
01:11:46,560 --> 01:11:48,880
Speaker 4: are there, this is up. You have to treat this

1255
01:11:48,960 --> 01:11:51,599
Speaker 4: like a playoff game, like I said, and points are

1256
01:11:51,640 --> 01:11:54,880
Speaker 4: premium in playoff games. You can't be Oh, we're gonna

1257
01:11:54,920 --> 01:11:55,720
Speaker 4: do this and beat it.

1258
01:11:55,840 --> 01:11:57,519
Speaker 3: No no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no no.

1259
01:11:58,479 --> 01:12:02,000
Speaker 4: Let's get the points. Guess what They all add up.

1260
01:12:04,520 --> 01:12:07,639
Speaker 4: The points you take in the first half, the first quarter,

1261
01:12:07,880 --> 01:12:11,559
Speaker 4: the second quarter, add to the ones you get in

1262
01:12:11,640 --> 01:12:14,080
Speaker 4: the third and the fourth quarter, and at the end

1263
01:12:14,160 --> 01:12:18,040
Speaker 4: of the game, they add up to a final score.

1264
01:12:19,560 --> 01:12:23,680
Speaker 4: Now you can leave some out there. The points you

1265
01:12:23,760 --> 01:12:26,719
Speaker 4: leave out there, they don't count, can't keep those, can't

1266
01:12:26,720 --> 01:12:31,320
Speaker 4: have them. But the ones you collect, it could be

1267
01:12:31,360 --> 01:12:33,080
Speaker 4: nine to seven right now with twenty seconds left and

1268
01:12:33,080 --> 01:12:33,400
Speaker 4: a half.

1269
01:12:33,520 --> 01:12:39,839
Speaker 3: I'm just saying, yep, yep. But here we are, Lions

1270
01:12:39,920 --> 01:12:40,840
Speaker 3: lead seven to six.

1271
01:12:40,960 --> 01:12:44,600
Speaker 2: We're approaching halftime, and we'll keep on watching along with

1272
01:12:44,640 --> 01:12:46,800
Speaker 2: you there. We have not had a chance to do

1273
01:12:46,840 --> 01:12:49,040
Speaker 2: this yet, and we should. I know both of us

1274
01:12:49,120 --> 01:12:53,519
Speaker 2: want to. The Mike Evans situation today was the highlight

1275
01:12:53,560 --> 01:12:56,240
Speaker 2: of the football day for me. I thought it was

1276
01:12:56,280 --> 01:12:58,479
Speaker 2: so fascinating. We got to get to that coming up

1277
01:12:58,520 --> 01:13:02,880
Speaker 2: next on Flag Sports Radio. It's a pretty good pick.

1278
01:13:03,439 --> 01:13:07,880
Speaker 2: It's a pretty good pick. But you know what, I

1279
01:13:07,920 --> 01:13:13,400
Speaker 2: come in peace and I have the answer. If you're

1280
01:13:13,479 --> 01:13:17,519
Speaker 2: open to the answer, I have the answer. Yeah, we

1281
01:13:17,560 --> 01:13:21,880
Speaker 2: want to I have the answer. Tyrack dot com Studios.

1282
01:13:21,960 --> 01:13:24,639
Speaker 2: Describe the play again. When you got called for illegal touching?

1283
01:13:24,680 --> 01:13:30,000
Speaker 3: Describe it. Yep, quarterback hit me with the ball. Yep.

1284
01:13:30,960 --> 01:13:33,720
Speaker 3: Where were you on the field as a compared to

1285
01:13:33,760 --> 01:13:36,080
Speaker 3: the line of scrimmage? I was behind the line of scrimmage.

1286
01:13:36,560 --> 01:13:38,040
Speaker 3: Oh well, then it was a bad call.

1287
01:13:38,920 --> 01:13:41,840
Speaker 2: So I read the rule, and the rule is it

1288
01:13:41,880 --> 01:13:44,679
Speaker 2: can be illegal touching if the ball hits the lineman

1289
01:13:44,720 --> 01:13:48,599
Speaker 2: in any way, shape or form beyond the line of scrimmage,

1290
01:13:48,840 --> 01:13:51,240
Speaker 2: which is why you didn't see it get called or

1291
01:13:51,280 --> 01:13:53,839
Speaker 2: discussed a half hour ago.

1292
01:13:55,600 --> 01:13:59,639
Speaker 3: In Detroit because that was well behind the lion scrimmage. Okay,

1293
01:14:00,000 --> 01:14:01,960
Speaker 3: that makes sense. Yeah, that's the rule.

1294
01:14:02,600 --> 01:14:06,760
Speaker 2: So we can both claim some statements to be right

1295
01:14:06,800 --> 01:14:08,439
Speaker 2: and wrong in the last half hour.

1296
01:14:08,560 --> 01:14:17,800
Speaker 3: I come in peace. I accept that. See see, and

1297
01:14:17,840 --> 01:14:24,320
Speaker 3: then we eat. That's it. Then we eat. Then we eat.

1298
01:14:26,880 --> 01:14:30,439
Speaker 2: Hey man, you know who's eating this, Mike Evans. For

1299
01:14:30,479 --> 01:14:32,840
Speaker 2: those of you who didn't catch what was going on today,

1300
01:14:32,960 --> 01:14:34,639
Speaker 2: I don't know if I've ever seen this before.

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Speaker 3: We've seen like forms of it, but not like this.

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01:14:38,760 --> 01:14:42,760
Speaker 2: So the Bucks take an eight point lead, and the

1303
01:14:42,760 --> 01:14:45,080
Speaker 2: Saints have the ball and they go down and on

1304
01:14:45,120 --> 01:14:47,840
Speaker 2: fourth down it's incomplete and they have no time out,

1305
01:14:47,920 --> 01:14:50,479
Speaker 2: so the ballgame is over. The Bucks have clinched the

1306
01:14:50,600 --> 01:14:54,719
Speaker 2: NFC South and it is it is victory formation time,

1307
01:14:55,880 --> 01:14:58,080
Speaker 2: and all the starters run out on the field to

1308
01:14:58,160 --> 01:15:01,920
Speaker 2: get into a regular formation. In your like, hey, what's

1309
01:15:02,000 --> 01:15:04,760
Speaker 2: happening right here? The Bucks look like they would like

1310
01:15:04,800 --> 01:15:08,479
Speaker 2: to play some football. Why are they doing this? Quickly,

1311
01:15:08,600 --> 01:15:13,240
Speaker 2: the announcers, the fans, everybody starts to gather what's taking place.

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01:15:14,000 --> 01:15:17,639
Speaker 2: Mike Evans is at nine hundred and ninety five yards

1313
01:15:18,040 --> 01:15:21,519
Speaker 2: for the year. If he gets a five yard catch,

1314
01:15:21,840 --> 01:15:26,360
Speaker 2: that's eleven straight years at one thousand yards. That ties

1315
01:15:26,400 --> 01:15:29,599
Speaker 2: an all time record held by Jerry Rice and Jerry

1316
01:15:29,680 --> 01:15:33,240
Speaker 2: Rice alone. No one else has ever done it. And oh,

1317
01:15:33,280 --> 01:15:37,879
Speaker 2: by the way, there's a three million dollar bonus attached

1318
01:15:37,920 --> 01:15:38,160
Speaker 2: to it.

1319
01:15:42,560 --> 01:15:43,519
Speaker 3: Have you ever been.

1320
01:15:43,400 --> 01:15:46,240
Speaker 2: Through anything like this where the team set out there

1321
01:15:46,320 --> 01:15:49,160
Speaker 2: the last week to go get some teammates some money.

1322
01:15:52,320 --> 01:15:58,880
Speaker 4: I think so, I can't remember, but it didn't. I

1323
01:15:58,880 --> 01:16:01,439
Speaker 4: don't know, because it didn't feel like it felt watching

1324
01:16:01,479 --> 01:16:05,720
Speaker 4: it today, that was amazing. Yes, And the money is

1325
01:16:05,760 --> 01:16:10,240
Speaker 4: the money. But the fact that you can only do

1326
01:16:10,360 --> 01:16:13,360
Speaker 4: this record, you can't come back.

1327
01:16:13,200 --> 01:16:15,480
Speaker 3: And get this death is it.

1328
01:16:15,479 --> 01:16:23,600
Speaker 4: It's eleven years in a row, not eleven out of

1329
01:16:23,760 --> 01:16:33,200
Speaker 4: thirteen years. It's eleven years in a row. And the

1330
01:16:33,200 --> 01:16:37,000
Speaker 4: fact that they got the defense got to stop. He

1331
01:16:37,160 --> 01:16:39,479
Speaker 4: was reserved. You watched them as they were out there playing.

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01:16:39,520 --> 01:16:41,439
Speaker 4: They kept panning to him and he was like, man,

1333
01:16:43,200 --> 01:16:46,000
Speaker 4: almost got it, and he was, you know, trying to

1334
01:16:46,080 --> 01:16:51,920
Speaker 4: rationalize it's still a great it's still great honor. Yeah,

1335
01:16:52,200 --> 01:16:55,200
Speaker 4: I did everything I want And then they stopped him

1336
01:16:55,680 --> 01:16:57,360
Speaker 4: and it was like nineteen seconds left.

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01:16:57,760 --> 01:17:02,759
Speaker 3: It was like, up, y'all want to get it. Let's

1338
01:17:02,760 --> 01:17:06,320
Speaker 3: get it, Let's go get it.

1339
01:17:07,160 --> 01:17:09,840
Speaker 2: So here's the question I have, And my lady and

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01:17:09,880 --> 01:17:13,559
Speaker 2: I were chatting this out earlier and not disagreeing, but

1341
01:17:13,720 --> 01:17:15,360
Speaker 2: kind of seeing it a little bit of a different way.

1342
01:17:15,360 --> 01:17:18,439
Speaker 2: And here's what I want to know from you. If

1343
01:17:18,520 --> 01:17:26,160
Speaker 2: you're the defender lined up against Mike, what do you do?

1344
01:17:28,920 --> 01:17:29,160
Speaker 3: Mike?

1345
01:17:29,479 --> 01:17:33,120
Speaker 2: Would you like to be the guy that broke up

1346
01:17:33,200 --> 01:17:34,839
Speaker 2: the pass for three.

1347
01:17:34,920 --> 01:17:40,280
Speaker 4: Mili as an athlete the game is over, you come on, man.

1348
01:17:40,479 --> 01:17:40,960
Speaker 3: Thank you?

1349
01:17:41,200 --> 01:17:43,320
Speaker 2: Which is exactly what And I need to look it

1350
01:17:43,400 --> 01:17:46,040
Speaker 2: up to find out who it was. Who's number one

1351
01:17:46,280 --> 01:17:50,840
Speaker 2: on the New Orleans Saints. I'm gonna look it up

1352
01:17:50,920 --> 01:17:51,680
Speaker 2: right now.

1353
01:17:53,960 --> 01:18:00,320
Speaker 3: And number one is, well, I'll find it. Lost it

1354
01:18:00,400 --> 01:18:02,200
Speaker 3: there for a second. I'm gonna find out number one

1355
01:18:02,240 --> 01:18:03,759
Speaker 3: because number one he laid back.

1356
01:18:04,200 --> 01:18:06,720
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, he's not gonna shoot in there, and

1357
01:18:07,360 --> 01:18:08,160
Speaker 4: I mean that would.

1358
01:18:07,920 --> 01:18:10,880
Speaker 3: Be Alante Taylor. Alnte Taylor is his name.

1359
01:18:10,880 --> 01:18:13,240
Speaker 4: Shout out to him, you know what I mean, right.

1360
01:18:13,080 --> 01:18:15,680
Speaker 2: Because that's what I sort of thought, like because she

1361
01:18:15,880 --> 01:18:17,519
Speaker 2: was like, hey, these are division rivals.

1362
01:18:17,520 --> 01:18:20,479
Speaker 3: They probably hate each other. And I'm like, nah, right

1363
01:18:20,600 --> 01:18:22,360
Speaker 3: at that point, I know, not.

1364
01:18:22,479 --> 01:18:25,439
Speaker 2: When money like they guys do not want to get

1365
01:18:25,479 --> 01:18:26,960
Speaker 2: into each other's pockets.

1366
01:18:27,160 --> 01:18:29,759
Speaker 4: No, no, no, no no, and you know the game

1367
01:18:29,920 --> 01:18:37,160
Speaker 4: is over. It was over right, Like he didn't let him.

1368
01:18:37,400 --> 01:18:42,040
Speaker 4: He wasn't open on the previous attempt. That's why they

1369
01:18:42,200 --> 01:18:45,200
Speaker 4: flipped it to Irving and then he scored that way.

1370
01:18:45,200 --> 01:18:47,920
Speaker 4: They were looking for Mike that way. He was like, nah,

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01:18:48,080 --> 01:18:51,559
Speaker 4: not not not today, not on me. But once they

1372
01:18:51,760 --> 01:18:54,960
Speaker 4: scored that touchdown, the game was over. Nineteen seconds left

1373
01:18:55,000 --> 01:18:57,559
Speaker 4: in the game. It is what it is.

1374
01:18:59,120 --> 01:19:01,680
Speaker 2: It was a fun sitchuation coming up next, some of

1375
01:19:01,720 --> 01:19:04,679
Speaker 2: the preseason expectations and how did they turn out?

1376
01:19:04,800 --> 01:19:10,599
Speaker 3: That's next, Let's ride into the night.

1377
01:19:10,720 --> 01:19:14,679
Speaker 2: The regular season has got one half of football left

1378
01:19:14,680 --> 01:19:14,920
Speaker 2: to go.

1379
01:19:15,160 --> 01:19:16,200
Speaker 3: Will follow along.

1380
01:19:16,320 --> 01:19:18,960
Speaker 2: The Lions lead ten to six, the Vikings have the

1381
01:19:19,000 --> 01:19:22,800
Speaker 2: ball as the third quarter gets started, will reflect on

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Speaker 2: tire buying should be. I love what you brought up earlier.

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Speaker 2: It's kind of fun on a day like today, think

1388
01:19:42,200 --> 01:19:46,480
Speaker 2: back to the beginning of the season. What met your expectations,

1389
01:19:47,080 --> 01:19:54,360
Speaker 2: what did not meet your expectations, and what exceeded your expectations?

1390
01:19:55,000 --> 01:19:59,479
Speaker 2: So where would you start on that? Like what in

1391
01:19:59,520 --> 01:20:04,680
Speaker 2: this fel season came out and really exceeded what you

1392
01:20:04,760 --> 01:20:05,960
Speaker 2: were thinking Back in.

1393
01:20:05,920 --> 01:20:15,280
Speaker 4: August, I I thought that Washington could be as good

1394
01:20:15,280 --> 01:20:19,280
Speaker 4: as they were. I thought they would be the best

1395
01:20:19,280 --> 01:20:23,320
Speaker 4: team in that division of Philly got it together even

1396
01:20:23,320 --> 01:20:27,840
Speaker 4: though it was you know, we didn't understand how and why,

1397
01:20:27,920 --> 01:20:31,880
Speaker 4: but we do. Saquon Barkley. Yeah, no, Saquon Barkley. We're

1398
01:20:31,920 --> 01:20:36,960
Speaker 4: looking at a completely different team. That's obvious. I mean,

1399
01:20:37,000 --> 01:20:42,080
Speaker 4: look at New York without Saquon Hello. But I thought

1400
01:20:42,240 --> 01:20:49,479
Speaker 4: that Jayden Daniels would be that guy. And so it

1401
01:20:49,600 --> 01:20:52,519
Speaker 4: was you know, it was great seeing them get to

1402
01:20:52,560 --> 01:20:56,719
Speaker 4: the playoffs and position themselves to like anything can happen.

1403
01:20:56,800 --> 01:20:59,240
Speaker 4: Now once you get to that second season, that that playoff,

1404
01:20:59,240 --> 01:21:01,160
Speaker 4: those playoffs, anything can happen.

1405
01:21:03,160 --> 01:21:03,360
Speaker 3: Man.

1406
01:21:03,400 --> 01:21:05,880
Speaker 4: That's why you gotta love football because it's one game,

1407
01:21:06,439 --> 01:21:07,160
Speaker 4: not a series.

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01:21:07,240 --> 01:21:07,960
Speaker 3: It's one game.

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01:21:08,920 --> 01:21:13,599
Speaker 4: That's why the NCAA Tournament Basketball tournament is so great, right,

1410
01:21:14,200 --> 01:21:17,080
Speaker 4: He's just you got to show up that day and

1411
01:21:17,160 --> 01:21:23,320
Speaker 4: be great. And and so we saw it last year

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01:21:23,360 --> 01:21:28,400
Speaker 4: with c J. Stroud went in that you know, wild

1413
01:21:28,479 --> 01:21:31,760
Speaker 4: card game and you know they ran into a bus

1414
01:21:31,800 --> 01:21:36,320
Speaker 4: saw in Baltimore. But it's great. That was one of

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01:21:36,360 --> 01:21:38,439
Speaker 4: the things that I was I was excited to see

1416
01:21:38,479 --> 01:21:45,240
Speaker 4: happened that. I had a little premonition on San Francisco

1417
01:21:45,360 --> 01:21:48,639
Speaker 4: being as bad as they were was you know, every

1418
01:21:48,680 --> 01:21:50,920
Speaker 4: week for the like the first nine weeks, I was

1419
01:21:50,960 --> 01:21:52,680
Speaker 4: trying to make excuses for him, but then it was

1420
01:21:52,720 --> 01:21:53,479
Speaker 4: just like, well they.

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01:21:53,400 --> 01:21:57,120
Speaker 3: Just suck no, I mean six and eleven. Yeah, that's tough.

1422
01:21:57,120 --> 01:21:57,559
Speaker 3: That's tough.

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01:21:57,560 --> 01:21:59,879
Speaker 4: Pill Wow, that's he That's a heck of a hangover.

1424
01:22:00,680 --> 01:22:02,080
Speaker 3: That is a heck of a hangover.

1425
01:22:02,200 --> 01:22:05,759
Speaker 2: Now, Deebo Samuel went on I'm on Ross Saint Brown's

1426
01:22:05,800 --> 01:22:07,320
Speaker 2: podcast this week.

1427
01:22:07,800 --> 01:22:11,200
Speaker 3: And I think really kind of expanded.

1428
01:22:11,280 --> 01:22:12,640
Speaker 2: I don't know if you buy it or not, but

1429
01:22:12,720 --> 01:22:15,120
Speaker 2: he expanded on a lot of what you were saying.

1430
01:22:14,840 --> 01:22:15,719
Speaker 3: Earlier this year.

1431
01:22:15,840 --> 01:22:20,120
Speaker 2: Like he said, losing the Super Bowl to the same

1432
01:22:20,200 --> 01:22:23,160
Speaker 2: team twice in the fashion that we did, like it

1433
01:22:23,439 --> 01:22:28,080
Speaker 2: sent a lot of us into a deep depression that

1434
01:22:28,200 --> 01:22:31,160
Speaker 2: lasted months, didn't even want to talk to anybody.

1435
01:22:32,200 --> 01:22:33,720
Speaker 3: And so add that.

1436
01:22:33,840 --> 01:22:38,360
Speaker 2: Up with then what sort of also took place in

1437
01:22:38,400 --> 01:22:42,680
Speaker 2: the meantime from the Brandon i You contract holdout and

1438
01:22:42,720 --> 01:22:46,559
Speaker 2: the Trent Williams contract hold out, and the Ricky Piersoll

1439
01:22:46,960 --> 01:22:51,360
Speaker 2: getting shot, and then we get to the Trent Williams

1440
01:22:51,439 --> 01:22:54,479
Speaker 2: and the miscarriages and the Sharvarius Ward losing his daughter,

1441
01:22:54,560 --> 01:22:58,200
Speaker 2: and you add all these things up and to what

1442
01:22:58,479 --> 01:23:02,559
Speaker 2: level can you just sort of look at at what

1443
01:23:02,640 --> 01:23:07,320
Speaker 2: happened in San Francisco and say this team, Because earlier

1444
01:23:07,360 --> 01:23:11,360
Speaker 2: tonight you were talking about the mental side of sports,

1445
01:23:11,400 --> 01:23:14,400
Speaker 2: and I just think this team has never been able

1446
01:23:15,520 --> 01:23:19,320
Speaker 2: to have that side of their world working.

1447
01:23:20,680 --> 01:23:21,080
Speaker 3: At all.

1448
01:23:24,200 --> 01:23:30,800
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's it's a lot like getting there and losing

1449
01:23:32,000 --> 01:23:35,479
Speaker 4: to the same team when you you essentially had the game,

1450
01:23:36,040 --> 01:23:38,800
Speaker 4: you had them. It is hard to come back. I'm

1451
01:23:38,880 --> 01:23:44,360
Speaker 4: telling you, man, the mental wear and tear of professional sports,

1452
01:23:44,840 --> 01:23:47,679
Speaker 4: it's outside of the athletic prowess of athletes. That's why

1453
01:23:47,680 --> 01:23:50,880
Speaker 4: they pay you so much. Man, you want to talk about, brother,

1454
01:23:50,960 --> 01:23:56,800
Speaker 4: the highs of highs and the lows of lows. It's

1455
01:23:56,960 --> 01:24:04,960
Speaker 4: it's I mean it, it's literally it takes everything out

1456
01:24:05,000 --> 01:24:07,599
Speaker 4: of it to go and do it back to back

1457
01:24:08,080 --> 01:24:11,880
Speaker 4: and then come for a third season and be like, oh,

1458
01:24:12,120 --> 01:24:14,240
Speaker 4: like the regular season. I said this at the beginning,

1459
01:24:14,439 --> 01:24:20,200
Speaker 4: The regular season games don't mean anything. You've done that.

1460
01:24:20,320 --> 01:24:23,960
Speaker 4: You've been thirteen and four, you know, fourteen and three,

1461
01:24:24,200 --> 01:24:27,559
Speaker 4: and you've done it. You've beaten the play, you got

1462
01:24:27,600 --> 01:24:30,000
Speaker 4: all the way to the Super Bowl over time, you've

1463
01:24:30,040 --> 01:24:32,280
Speaker 4: done all it. So in the regular season it just

1464
01:24:32,320 --> 01:24:36,320
Speaker 4: becomes mundane and it just becomes oh my god, can

1465
01:24:36,360 --> 01:24:39,120
Speaker 4: we get to December and January? But by then it

1466
01:24:39,200 --> 01:24:43,280
Speaker 4: was far too late. It was far too late. The

1467
01:24:43,360 --> 01:24:49,120
Speaker 4: damage had been done. And so it's a situation where

1468
01:24:51,760 --> 01:24:59,960
Speaker 4: with that on top of the injuries, that was it

1469
01:25:00,240 --> 01:25:05,000
Speaker 4: much very fragile. The holdouts all through training camp.

1470
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Speaker 3: Yep.

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01:25:07,920 --> 01:25:11,360
Speaker 4: The ecosystem of a team, a professional team, is very

1472
01:25:12,920 --> 01:25:21,800
Speaker 4: very fragile. When you upset that ecosystem with ego or mundanity,

1473
01:25:21,880 --> 01:25:28,800
Speaker 4: then it doesn't it doesn't work. Are they going forward again?

1474
01:25:28,960 --> 01:25:31,920
Speaker 2: They're going forward again from fourth and goal from the

1475
01:25:31,960 --> 01:25:44,240
Speaker 2: two running in Vikings are down by four donald incomplete. Now, Okay,

1476
01:25:45,800 --> 01:25:48,080
Speaker 2: here's what I'd love to hear you talk about. Because

1477
01:25:49,000 --> 01:25:52,599
Speaker 2: a low graphic, I know, but a little graphic pops

1478
01:25:52,680 --> 01:25:55,639
Speaker 2: up on the screen right before the play is called.

1479
01:25:56,840 --> 01:25:58,640
Speaker 2: And I know you've heard of this. We've all heard

1480
01:25:58,680 --> 01:26:00,320
Speaker 2: of it, even though no one really knows exactly what

1481
01:26:00,360 --> 01:26:05,320
Speaker 2: it means. Next gen stats, which is a way of saying,

1482
01:26:05,600 --> 01:26:09,479
Speaker 2: this is what the robots and the computers think. And

1483
01:26:09,600 --> 01:26:13,639
Speaker 2: I would love to really understand more about what why

1484
01:26:13,760 --> 01:26:17,040
Speaker 2: what does that mean? Like you're not just talking about probability.

1485
01:26:18,080 --> 01:26:20,040
Speaker 2: Is this a fifty percent play? Is it a fifty

1486
01:26:20,040 --> 01:26:24,800
Speaker 2: five percent play? You're also running through all of the

1487
01:26:24,880 --> 01:26:29,600
Speaker 2: scenarios an algorithm, if you will, And next Gen Stats

1488
01:26:29,640 --> 01:26:34,080
Speaker 2: said go for it. No, that's that's the right thing

1489
01:26:34,120 --> 01:26:34,400
Speaker 2: to do.

1490
01:26:34,479 --> 01:26:37,000
Speaker 4: Yeah, but that's not the right that's not how it works.

1491
01:26:37,080 --> 01:26:42,000
Speaker 4: We're not robots and we're not formulas. The next gen

1492
01:26:42,040 --> 01:26:44,320
Speaker 4: stats can't tell what the flow of the game is.

1493
01:26:44,720 --> 01:26:45,000
Speaker 3: Yep.

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01:26:45,840 --> 01:27:01,320
Speaker 4: They don't understand the environment. They don't understand this is

1495
01:27:01,360 --> 01:27:07,840
Speaker 4: a playoff game. These points that gets us within one.

1496
01:27:08,640 --> 01:27:12,080
Speaker 4: If we can stay within one point on the road

1497
01:27:14,040 --> 01:27:17,760
Speaker 4: until the fourth quarter, we can take this over. Then

1498
01:27:17,800 --> 01:27:21,320
Speaker 4: you start going, now what like you have to Now,

1499
01:27:21,479 --> 01:27:23,599
Speaker 4: what you can't do is go down and give up three.

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01:27:23,640 --> 01:27:27,200
Speaker 4: Now you're down seven, or you can't go down and

1501
01:27:27,240 --> 01:27:31,679
Speaker 4: give up uh uh seven and now you're down two.

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01:27:31,600 --> 01:27:35,840
Speaker 3: Scores right, you'd still be down one scoring touchdown, that's

1503
01:27:35,880 --> 01:27:37,400
Speaker 3: the point. Yeah.

1504
01:27:37,520 --> 01:27:41,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, then they've done it twice. Next jes they've done

1505
01:27:41,760 --> 01:27:43,920
Speaker 2: it twice. You talked about the emotions.

1506
01:27:45,000 --> 01:27:48,479
Speaker 4: Twelve ten, it's twelve ten. Yeah, you're still up on

1507
01:27:48,520 --> 01:27:54,920
Speaker 4: the road. Second half. So when all of these people

1508
01:27:54,920 --> 01:27:59,800
Speaker 4: are talking, uh, analytics and this, and the book says,

1509
01:28:00,320 --> 01:28:12,640
Speaker 4: hey man, do this do that? No, the fact that

1510
01:28:12,680 --> 01:28:19,599
Speaker 4: you can't score inside the ten yard line four times, what.

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01:28:19,479 --> 01:28:24,120
Speaker 3: Would the what would the stats say about that? Well?

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01:28:24,560 --> 01:28:28,000
Speaker 2: I also look at it this way, like when we

1513
01:28:28,040 --> 01:28:31,160
Speaker 2: think about analytics. For a lot of us, we grew

1514
01:28:31,240 --> 01:28:34,160
Speaker 2: up watching sports when this was never discussed, but it's

1515
01:28:34,200 --> 01:28:39,080
Speaker 2: always been discussed. For example, if you ever gamble, even

1516
01:28:39,120 --> 01:28:41,240
Speaker 2: if just a couple of bucks, you go into a

1517
01:28:41,280 --> 01:28:44,360
Speaker 2: casino and you gamble. If you've ever played blackjack before,

1518
01:28:44,439 --> 01:28:47,920
Speaker 2: you will hear people literally at the blackjack table.

1519
01:28:48,520 --> 01:28:49,240
Speaker 3: Yes, Jared go.

1520
01:28:51,600 --> 01:28:54,559
Speaker 2: Right, interception, it's all the way back at the forty

1521
01:28:54,600 --> 01:28:55,760
Speaker 2: six yard line, so at.

1522
01:28:55,720 --> 01:28:57,479
Speaker 3: Least it was a bomb. But yeah, this is a

1523
01:28:57,520 --> 01:28:58,240
Speaker 3: weird game.

1524
01:28:58,560 --> 01:29:02,599
Speaker 2: Anyway, If you ever played blackjack, you'll hear people sometimes

1525
01:29:02,640 --> 01:29:07,080
Speaker 2: even ask the dealer as they're sitting there facing a hand.

1526
01:29:07,439 --> 01:29:09,559
Speaker 2: Let's say you've got a twelve and the dealer's got

1527
01:29:09,560 --> 01:29:12,960
Speaker 2: a two showing you'll hear people ask the dealer, what's

1528
01:29:13,040 --> 01:29:16,960
Speaker 2: the book say? Now, this is a way of saying,

1529
01:29:17,479 --> 01:29:20,040
Speaker 2: what do the next gen and stats tell me to do?

1530
01:29:20,520 --> 01:29:21,720
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's not the same thing.

1531
01:29:22,240 --> 01:29:25,800
Speaker 2: Well it's not. But here's the analogy I'm trying to make.

1532
01:29:26,840 --> 01:29:32,920
Speaker 2: The book doesn't know how much money you have. If

1533
01:29:32,960 --> 01:29:38,000
Speaker 2: you're in from salam.

1534
01:29:36,080 --> 01:29:40,120
Speaker 3: Double the hell down. Who cares? I got bajillions?

1535
01:29:40,240 --> 01:29:44,479
Speaker 4: They're good here, they're different variables. But analytics don't cover

1536
01:29:44,920 --> 01:29:45,439
Speaker 4: if you.

1537
01:29:45,880 --> 01:29:48,599
Speaker 2: If you put your last one hundred dollars out there,

1538
01:29:49,479 --> 01:29:51,280
Speaker 2: and the book says double down.

1539
01:29:52,200 --> 01:29:55,400
Speaker 3: Well, partner, what are you doing because.

1540
01:29:56,880 --> 01:30:00,120
Speaker 2: You know what I mean, like, that's your situation and

1541
01:30:00,200 --> 01:30:06,400
Speaker 2: you can't run analytics numbers and have them apply the

1542
01:30:06,439 --> 01:30:10,479
Speaker 2: same to all human beings and situations. And I think

1543
01:30:10,479 --> 01:30:12,800
Speaker 2: that that's what you're getting at tonight. And I'm in

1544
01:30:12,880 --> 01:30:15,920
Speaker 2: full agreement, like this is this is a different game.

1545
01:30:16,040 --> 01:30:18,679
Speaker 2: This is not the Giants versus the Patriots Week five.

1546
01:30:20,400 --> 01:30:22,559
Speaker 2: There's a lot going on emotionally here.

1547
01:30:25,920 --> 01:30:31,519
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's too much at stake for some kid to

1548
01:30:31,720 --> 01:30:34,200
Speaker 4: run down or be talking in the headset like.

1549
01:30:35,640 --> 01:30:36,120
Speaker 3: We gotta go.

1550
01:30:36,280 --> 01:30:41,320
Speaker 4: No, man, take the points. It's a one It will

1551
01:30:41,360 --> 01:30:44,240
Speaker 4: be a one score game. No one is doing anything

1552
01:30:44,320 --> 01:30:46,719
Speaker 4: offensively outside of the first quarter.

1553
01:30:47,400 --> 01:30:49,200
Speaker 2: Well, the vikings that they're moving the ball up and

1554
01:30:49,200 --> 01:30:51,880
Speaker 2: down the field. They just take the points. So take

1555
01:30:52,040 --> 01:30:52,960
Speaker 2: any points.

1556
01:30:52,640 --> 01:31:00,920
Speaker 4: Every single point you have. Yeah, every single point.

1557
01:31:01,400 --> 01:31:05,559
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think that this is Uh, it's it's it's tough.

1558
01:31:05,880 --> 01:31:09,519
Speaker 2: And we were just talking about what sort of like

1559
01:31:10,320 --> 01:31:15,040
Speaker 2: exceeded our expectations, what surprised us, what didn't having Kevin

1560
01:31:15,080 --> 01:31:20,720
Speaker 2: O'Connell be the one who is sort of like got

1561
01:31:20,760 --> 01:31:24,879
Speaker 2: the Gunslinger play calling mentality tonight over Dan Campbell.

1562
01:31:25,120 --> 01:31:26,439
Speaker 3: I did not see that coming.

1563
01:31:29,560 --> 01:31:31,320
Speaker 4: Yeah, this is weirding.

1564
01:31:31,720 --> 01:31:33,759
Speaker 3: This is like bizarro world.

1565
01:31:34,520 --> 01:31:37,840
Speaker 2: This has been one of the odd games. Let's see

1566
01:31:37,840 --> 01:31:40,760
Speaker 2: where it goes next. The Vikings do have the ball

1567
01:31:40,880 --> 01:31:44,519
Speaker 2: injury time out for a Lions defender. Will keep you

1568
01:31:44,600 --> 01:31:47,720
Speaker 2: up to date on all of it. That is eat

1569
01:31:47,720 --> 01:31:52,360
Speaker 2: from salam. I'm Mark Willard more on what exceeded, what

1570
01:31:52,560 --> 01:31:55,920
Speaker 2: did not. Plus there's one specific player who had a

1571
01:31:55,960 --> 01:32:00,200
Speaker 2: really bad weekend and what does it mean for his future?

1572
01:32:00,240 --> 01:32:01,840
Speaker 2: I want to ask you about this player. We'll do

1573
01:32:01,920 --> 01:32:06,200
Speaker 2: that next on Fox Sports Radio. Well, yet another field

1574
01:32:06,240 --> 01:32:09,639
Speaker 2: goal for the Vikings. If only they had taken them all,

1575
01:32:09,760 --> 01:32:11,479
Speaker 2: they'd be winning right now, but they're not.

1576
01:32:12,600 --> 01:32:16,880
Speaker 7: Be it would be ten, but it's ten to nine

1577
01:32:17,680 --> 01:32:22,880
Speaker 7: and here we go, one point game, getting late lots

1578
01:32:22,920 --> 01:32:23,840
Speaker 7: on the line.

1579
01:32:24,000 --> 01:32:25,240
Speaker 3: We'll be right here with you.

1580
01:32:25,320 --> 01:32:28,599
Speaker 2: We're live tyreg dot com Studios and by the way,

1581
01:32:28,640 --> 01:32:31,160
Speaker 2: shortly after the show, the podcast goes up. If you

1582
01:32:31,240 --> 01:32:33,280
Speaker 2: missed any of today's show, be sure to check it

1583
01:32:33,320 --> 01:32:36,400
Speaker 2: out on the podcast. Just search Fox Sports Radio wherever

1584
01:32:36,400 --> 01:32:38,439
Speaker 2: you get your podcast. Also, be sure to follow, rate

1585
01:32:38,479 --> 01:32:41,040
Speaker 2: and review the podcast. Again, all you have to do

1586
01:32:41,120 --> 01:32:43,919
Speaker 2: is search Fox Sports Radio wherever you get your podcasts.

1587
01:32:43,920 --> 01:32:45,800
Speaker 2: You'll see the show posted right after we get off

1588
01:32:46,000 --> 01:32:48,559
Speaker 2: the air. But we are nowhere near done yet. Ten

1589
01:32:48,600 --> 01:32:51,920
Speaker 2: minutes to go, third quarter, ten nine Lions that lead

1590
01:32:52,000 --> 01:32:54,759
Speaker 2: the Vikings. And then I got a completely different question

1591
01:32:54,880 --> 01:33:01,360
Speaker 2: for you. Extension eligible this off season is twenty three

1592
01:33:01,479 --> 01:33:06,880
Speaker 2: year old wide receiver Pittsburgh Steelers George Pickens.

1593
01:33:07,240 --> 01:33:07,760
Speaker 3: What do you do?

1594
01:33:09,880 --> 01:33:11,799
Speaker 4: Oh, that's a tough one.

1595
01:33:12,200 --> 01:33:17,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, this is this is not someone who had a

1596
01:33:17,360 --> 01:33:23,960
Speaker 2: humongous rookie deal. He is a second round pick in

1597
01:33:24,040 --> 01:33:27,800
Speaker 2: twenty twenty two, so you know there's some money there,

1598
01:33:27,880 --> 01:33:32,799
Speaker 2: but not a ton four year, six point seven million

1599
01:33:32,840 --> 01:33:38,560
Speaker 2: dollar deal. Certainly views himself as a one he is volatile.

1600
01:33:38,920 --> 01:33:40,600
Speaker 4: Well, he's earned some money.

1601
01:33:40,320 --> 01:33:42,240
Speaker 3: But he's earned somebody, yes.

1602
01:33:42,160 --> 01:33:45,360
Speaker 4: Earned, you know, the market is shifting any way, But

1603
01:33:45,439 --> 01:33:49,240
Speaker 4: he hasn't earned top of the market money. Well, and

1604
01:33:49,400 --> 01:33:52,360
Speaker 4: if he thinks he has and somebody's gonna pay him that,

1605
01:33:52,439 --> 01:33:53,400
Speaker 4: then okay.

1606
01:33:53,880 --> 01:33:55,720
Speaker 3: I'm sure he thinks he has.

1607
01:33:56,200 --> 01:33:59,759
Speaker 4: Yeah, but if somebody's gonna pay him that is different

1608
01:34:00,560 --> 01:34:05,599
Speaker 4: than whatever he thinks and so it's one of those

1609
01:34:05,640 --> 01:34:13,479
Speaker 4: situations where you know, today's yes, what was it, yesterday's

1610
01:34:13,479 --> 01:34:14,160
Speaker 4: game didn't help.

1611
01:34:15,360 --> 01:34:18,960
Speaker 2: Well, it's fascinating, No, it did not. So he ended

1612
01:34:19,040 --> 01:34:23,120
Speaker 2: up with one catch for zero yards and he had

1613
01:34:23,240 --> 01:34:26,800
Speaker 2: three sideline yeah, three drops, and he had more sideline

1614
01:34:27,200 --> 01:34:28,839
Speaker 2: pep talks than he did catches.

1615
01:34:29,040 --> 01:34:34,000
Speaker 4: Yeah, So you you don't reward immaturity. And they they've

1616
01:34:34,040 --> 01:34:36,400
Speaker 4: gone down that road with the receiver before, but this

1617
01:34:36,479 --> 01:34:38,479
Speaker 4: receiver happened to be one of the most productive ever.

1618
01:34:40,160 --> 01:34:45,680
Speaker 4: He just, you know, right snapped. You don't even get

1619
01:34:45,680 --> 01:34:50,120
Speaker 4: the production part. Now. No, look, he's a good receiver.

1620
01:34:50,200 --> 01:34:56,639
Speaker 4: Him and Russ have chemistry together. But you need big

1621
01:34:56,680 --> 01:34:58,920
Speaker 4: time plays and big time moments. That's how you get

1622
01:34:58,960 --> 01:35:07,280
Speaker 4: the bag. And that wasn't happening. And so you're in

1623
01:35:07,320 --> 01:35:13,920
Speaker 4: a situation where we got you know, let's see, it's two.

1624
01:35:13,840 --> 01:35:18,360
Speaker 2: Things that come to mind on this, and you know,

1625
01:35:19,040 --> 01:35:23,160
Speaker 2: number one is obviously the fact that the Steelers have

1626
01:35:23,360 --> 01:35:27,080
Speaker 2: made no bones about the fact that they are looking

1627
01:35:27,120 --> 01:35:31,280
Speaker 2: to reboot their wide receiver room. They have been for

1628
01:35:31,320 --> 01:35:34,880
Speaker 2: a while from the Antonio Brown and Juju Smith Schuster days.

1629
01:35:35,560 --> 01:35:38,960
Speaker 2: Deontay Johnson comes in, they let him walk He's had

1630
01:35:39,000 --> 01:35:42,639
Speaker 2: a weird year being traded to the Ravens and then

1631
01:35:42,800 --> 01:35:45,200
Speaker 2: they let him go never never really got on the

1632
01:35:45,200 --> 01:35:49,080
Speaker 2: field that much, and then all of the flirting they

1633
01:35:49,160 --> 01:35:51,320
Speaker 2: did with Brandon Ayuk in the off season, and then

1634
01:35:51,360 --> 01:35:55,880
Speaker 2: they eventually acquire Mike Williams, but nothing ever seems to

1635
01:35:55,920 --> 01:35:58,920
Speaker 2: really stick, at least not the last three or four years.

1636
01:35:59,680 --> 01:36:03,559
Speaker 2: And now they've got to decide this. And the other

1637
01:36:03,600 --> 01:36:05,760
Speaker 2: thing that comes to mind is something that you were

1638
01:36:05,760 --> 01:36:10,439
Speaker 2: talking about earlier, which is, you know, Tyreek Hill.

1639
01:36:12,200 --> 01:36:12,920
Speaker 3: I don't know.

1640
01:36:13,240 --> 01:36:16,760
Speaker 2: If I would put him in this category of being

1641
01:36:16,880 --> 01:36:22,439
Speaker 2: quote a problem or volatile, but he's certainly had plenty

1642
01:36:22,439 --> 01:36:25,080
Speaker 2: of off the field stuff his entire career.

1643
01:36:27,520 --> 01:36:28,840
Speaker 3: There was the traffic.

1644
01:36:28,520 --> 01:36:30,920
Speaker 2: Incident earlier this year that I don't put on him

1645
01:36:30,960 --> 01:36:36,280
Speaker 2: at all. But now add in today, which is giving

1646
01:36:36,360 --> 01:36:42,800
Speaker 2: up on your team publicly stating I'm out. Ah, how

1647
01:36:42,840 --> 01:36:47,120
Speaker 2: would you balance when your roster building the talent versus

1648
01:36:47,120 --> 01:36:47,599
Speaker 2: the people.

1649
01:36:52,720 --> 01:36:55,880
Speaker 4: Well, you got to have a good culture. If you

1650
01:36:55,880 --> 01:36:58,639
Speaker 4: don't have a good culture, then talent turns into a nightmare.

1651
01:37:00,920 --> 01:37:04,760
Speaker 4: So you got you gotta be in position too to

1652
01:37:04,920 --> 01:37:12,800
Speaker 4: manage that. And if they can't do it, then it's

1653
01:37:13,160 --> 01:37:15,120
Speaker 4: it's not worth it because it's gonna come back and

1654
01:37:15,160 --> 01:37:24,000
Speaker 4: get you. It's gonna come back. It always does, it

1655
01:37:24,120 --> 01:37:29,519
Speaker 4: always does. So you gotta make sure you put the

1656
01:37:29,560 --> 01:37:32,640
Speaker 4: right pieces around. Just because you fast and catch it

1657
01:37:32,640 --> 01:37:38,800
Speaker 4: don't mean you'd right for us. And so they have to. Really,

1658
01:37:38,800 --> 01:37:44,639
Speaker 4: they've seen it. It's happened there. It's happened there.

1659
01:37:46,960 --> 01:37:47,600
Speaker 3: Repeatedly.

1660
01:37:47,760 --> 01:37:53,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean this is not you know, the George

1661
01:37:53,360 --> 01:37:59,880
Speaker 2: Pickens experience has been like this all along. He he's

1662
01:38:00,040 --> 01:38:03,640
Speaker 2: says stuff during the week in the locker room. He

1663
01:38:03,720 --> 01:38:06,360
Speaker 2: will throw a quarterback under the bus, he will throw

1664
01:38:06,400 --> 01:38:07,639
Speaker 2: a coach under the bus.

1665
01:38:08,080 --> 01:38:10,639
Speaker 3: He will pout. Hell.

1666
01:38:10,760 --> 01:38:13,160
Speaker 2: I watched the guy pout a couple of years ago

1667
01:38:13,680 --> 01:38:18,040
Speaker 2: when a teammate caught a touchdown pass because he wanted

1668
01:38:18,120 --> 01:38:24,519
Speaker 2: him to catch touchdown pass. And it's like, I guess

1669
01:38:24,520 --> 01:38:26,760
Speaker 2: why I'm asking is like, you know, you say, hey,

1670
01:38:26,760 --> 01:38:30,120
Speaker 2: he's not going to get elite money. I don't know

1671
01:38:30,160 --> 01:38:32,160
Speaker 2: if I'm the Steelers, if I want to give him

1672
01:38:32,240 --> 01:38:37,120
Speaker 2: any money. I don't like, do you do you want

1673
01:38:37,240 --> 01:38:39,080
Speaker 2: that player on your team?

1674
01:38:39,080 --> 01:38:39,519
Speaker 3: Periods?

1675
01:38:39,640 --> 01:38:46,160
Speaker 4: No, no, no, no, no, nope. You you got to be

1676
01:38:46,240 --> 01:38:50,920
Speaker 4: buttoned up and and and I always, I always parsed

1677
01:38:51,240 --> 01:38:56,040
Speaker 4: some of the blame on the Antonio Brown situation took

1678
01:39:00,360 --> 01:39:06,640
Speaker 4: Mike Tomlin. He allowed that to happen. He did, He

1679
01:39:06,680 --> 01:39:11,599
Speaker 4: allowed that to happen. I use this example all the time.

1680
01:39:11,680 --> 01:39:13,640
Speaker 4: Remember when they would go to training camp and it

1681
01:39:13,640 --> 01:39:19,200
Speaker 4: became about how was ab gonna pull up? How helicopter

1682
01:39:19,280 --> 01:39:23,040
Speaker 4: one time? A blimp rolls like it became this thing

1683
01:39:23,280 --> 01:39:28,000
Speaker 4: other than what the stealers are known for. And when

1684
01:39:28,040 --> 01:39:34,240
Speaker 4: bad behavior goes unchecked and you pay bad behavior, then

1685
01:39:34,280 --> 01:39:37,920
Speaker 4: it's nothing you can do after that. You get what

1686
01:39:38,000 --> 01:39:38,400
Speaker 4: you get.

1687
01:39:38,880 --> 01:39:41,040
Speaker 3: Yep. And that's the.

1688
01:39:41,000 --> 01:39:46,400
Speaker 4: Situation that they were in. Then Le'Veon Bell jumped on it,

1689
01:39:46,520 --> 01:39:51,880
Speaker 4: and then it just became a spiral. So you gotta

1690
01:39:52,160 --> 01:39:58,479
Speaker 4: understand that and understand your your ways and your the

1691
01:39:58,560 --> 01:40:06,200
Speaker 4: mistakes you've made, and keep it moving. There's talent everywhere

1692
01:40:06,360 --> 01:40:06,920
Speaker 4: at receiver.

1693
01:40:07,120 --> 01:40:07,800
Speaker 3: It's you don't know.

1694
01:40:07,880 --> 01:40:13,120
Speaker 2: I mean, well, this has been a thread conversation that

1695
01:40:13,160 --> 01:40:17,280
Speaker 2: we've had all year all year long, and I mean,

1696
01:40:18,200 --> 01:40:22,800
Speaker 2: what's the tail of the tape on on that entire conversation?

1697
01:40:24,000 --> 01:40:26,280
Speaker 2: You know what I mean? Like, I'm not going to

1698
01:40:26,360 --> 01:40:29,320
Speaker 2: say that nobody's happy with their highly paid receiver. I

1699
01:40:29,360 --> 01:40:32,120
Speaker 2: bet the Lions loved that they paid Almon Ross Saint Brown,

1700
01:40:32,439 --> 01:40:36,439
Speaker 2: for example, and even though Justin Jefferson had such a

1701
01:40:36,479 --> 01:40:42,320
Speaker 2: tough act to follow. And I mean, nobody is regretful

1702
01:40:42,360 --> 01:40:46,160
Speaker 2: of that contract either in uh in Minnesota.

1703
01:40:46,920 --> 01:40:50,280
Speaker 3: But how Dallas feels about.

1704
01:40:50,400 --> 01:40:55,599
Speaker 4: Now Sinny Piggott is not Justin Jefferson, you mean right,

1705
01:40:57,240 --> 01:40:57,680
Speaker 4: excuse me?

1706
01:41:00,040 --> 01:41:03,840
Speaker 3: Heard of that, right? But neither is Brandon Ayuk.

1707
01:41:03,880 --> 01:41:06,720
Speaker 4: And ask why you felt, you know, I felt about it.

1708
01:41:06,760 --> 01:41:08,480
Speaker 4: I'm like, all right, man, kick.

1709
01:41:08,439 --> 01:41:09,200
Speaker 3: I was with you.

1710
01:41:10,160 --> 01:41:12,679
Speaker 2: I was with you, and you look at how that's

1711
01:41:12,720 --> 01:41:17,920
Speaker 2: gone Ceedee Lamb Tyreek Hill, Jalen Waddle. All of these

1712
01:41:18,040 --> 01:41:21,320
Speaker 2: contracts where it's like, I don't know, man, Like I've

1713
01:41:21,320 --> 01:41:23,680
Speaker 2: always just looked at it and been like, sure, the

1714
01:41:23,720 --> 01:41:24,839
Speaker 2: position is important.

1715
01:41:24,880 --> 01:41:25,960
Speaker 3: I'd love to have as much.

1716
01:41:25,840 --> 01:41:30,680
Speaker 2: Talent as possible, But tying a number one receiver to

1717
01:41:31,000 --> 01:41:32,800
Speaker 2: winning in January.

1718
01:41:32,640 --> 01:41:35,559
Speaker 3: Is pretty tough. Yeah, I think it's pretty tough.

1719
01:41:35,600 --> 01:41:37,559
Speaker 4: But you can hit your wagon too. A running back, though,

1720
01:41:40,000 --> 01:41:43,280
Speaker 4: get out there in the elements. It's crazy. After the

1721
01:41:43,320 --> 01:41:45,800
Speaker 4: great Steve the Segred gives us our final update of

1722
01:41:45,840 --> 01:41:49,479
Speaker 4: the evening. We'll talk about those running backs that were

1723
01:41:50,280 --> 01:41:53,840
Speaker 4: cast aside and what type of year they had? Steve

1724
01:41:54,000 --> 01:41:54,599
Speaker 4: take it away?

1725
01:41:56,439 --> 01:42:01,120
Speaker 5: Certainly, gentlemen, music please? It is Detroit a ten to

1726
01:42:01,240 --> 01:42:03,880
Speaker 5: nine leader over Minnesota. Hey, there three minutes to go

1727
01:42:03,920 --> 01:42:06,759
Speaker 5: in the third quarter for the Lions. First round corner

1728
01:42:06,840 --> 01:42:09,040
Speaker 5: Terrian Arnold has gone to the locker room with a

1729
01:42:09,040 --> 01:42:12,200
Speaker 5: foot injury. He is questionable to return. Guys in this

1730
01:42:12,280 --> 01:42:15,639
Speaker 5: close game. A bit of trivia. This is the final

1731
01:42:15,680 --> 01:42:20,040
Speaker 5: regular season game of the NFL season this season, how

1732
01:42:20,040 --> 01:42:22,920
Speaker 5: many games have been decided by one score? Decided by

1733
01:42:23,000 --> 01:42:25,840
Speaker 5: eight points or less? Of course, this one's not in

1734
01:42:25,880 --> 01:42:28,960
Speaker 5: the books, but the answer currently is one hundred and

1735
01:42:29,040 --> 01:42:33,080
Speaker 5: fifty two, which is the second most one score games

1736
01:42:33,120 --> 01:42:36,240
Speaker 5: in a season in the history of the NFL.

1737
01:42:36,479 --> 01:42:37,679
Speaker 3: Fourth and fourth and two.

1738
01:42:38,000 --> 01:42:39,599
Speaker 1: You know the Vikings could.

1739
01:42:39,400 --> 01:42:41,400
Speaker 5: Be ahead at this point. I don't know if you've

1740
01:42:41,400 --> 01:42:45,240
Speaker 5: heard throw over the middle touchdown for Detroit. They extend

1741
01:42:45,240 --> 01:42:48,639
Speaker 5: the lead. Extra point will make it seventeen to nine.

1742
01:42:49,439 --> 01:42:51,719
Speaker 5: Jamiir Gibbs, who early in the game had a twenty

1743
01:42:51,720 --> 01:42:54,559
Speaker 5: five yard touchdown run, just caught a ten yard pass

1744
01:42:54,680 --> 01:42:57,600
Speaker 5: from Jared Goff. Goff with one td to go with

1745
01:42:57,720 --> 01:43:02,759
Speaker 5: two interceptions. Notable that the Vikings earlier in this game twice,

1746
01:43:03,000 --> 01:43:05,360
Speaker 5: went for it on fourth and goal and threw.

1747
01:43:05,360 --> 01:43:07,160
Speaker 4: Incomplete in the end zone.

1748
01:43:07,560 --> 01:43:10,519
Speaker 5: In fact, Ap says the Vikings tonight have run eleven

1749
01:43:10,640 --> 01:43:14,439
Speaker 5: different plays from the ten yard liner closer without scoring

1750
01:43:14,520 --> 01:43:17,639
Speaker 5: a touchdown on any of them. In the last fifteen

1751
01:43:17,760 --> 01:43:20,880
Speaker 5: NFL seasons, only three teams have done that for a

1752
01:43:20,880 --> 01:43:25,679
Speaker 5: full game. So they're down eight seventeen to nine. At Detroit,

1753
01:43:26,160 --> 01:43:27,679
Speaker 5: things could be a little different.

1754
01:43:28,439 --> 01:43:28,719
Speaker 4: Wow.

1755
01:43:28,800 --> 01:43:32,800
Speaker 5: Timir Gibbs seventeen carries fifty seven yards rushing one touchdown.

1756
01:43:33,320 --> 01:43:36,719
Speaker 5: Amen Ross Saint Brown's been targeted five times, five catches

1757
01:43:36,800 --> 01:43:40,360
Speaker 5: sixty eight yards. Cam Akers had a fifty eight yard

1758
01:43:40,439 --> 01:43:44,240
Speaker 5: run for Minnesota sixty three yards total. Aaron Jones eight

1759
01:43:44,280 --> 01:43:47,040
Speaker 5: carries thirty nine yards. This is a battle of fourteen

1760
01:43:47,080 --> 01:43:50,240
Speaker 5: and two teams. The Lions, with a win or a tie,

1761
01:43:50,800 --> 01:43:53,880
Speaker 5: would clinch the NFC North title and the NFC's number

1762
01:43:53,880 --> 01:43:59,080
Speaker 5: one seed, and therefore have next weekend off. The Chargers

1763
01:43:59,400 --> 01:44:03,040
Speaker 5: clinch the seed in the AFC. Chargers will open at

1764
01:44:03,080 --> 01:44:06,559
Speaker 5: Houston Saturday afternoon. After the Chargers won their season finale

1765
01:44:06,640 --> 01:44:09,439
Speaker 5: at Vegas thirty four to twenty. The Broncos with a

1766
01:44:09,479 --> 01:44:12,280
Speaker 5: win thirty eight nothing over Kansas City clinch the final

1767
01:44:12,320 --> 01:44:16,600
Speaker 5: AFC playoff spot Broncos at Buffalo next Sunday in the playoffs.

1768
01:44:16,760 --> 01:44:18,760
Speaker 5: The Rams could have clinched the three seed in the

1769
01:44:18,840 --> 01:44:21,439
Speaker 5: NFC with a win at home today. Instead, they sat

1770
01:44:21,439 --> 01:44:24,360
Speaker 5: starters and lost a close one to Seattle thirty to

1771
01:44:24,400 --> 01:44:28,000
Speaker 5: twenty five. Gino Smith four touchdown passes, including the game

1772
01:44:28,000 --> 01:44:30,639
Speaker 5: winner with about three minutes left. This was all great

1773
01:44:30,680 --> 01:44:33,320
Speaker 5: news for Tampa Bay, which is now the three seed. Earlier,

1774
01:44:33,360 --> 01:44:35,840
Speaker 5: the Bucks clinched the NFC South title for a fourth

1775
01:44:35,880 --> 01:44:39,400
Speaker 5: straight year. Tampa Bay beat New Orleans twenty seven to nineteen.

1776
01:44:39,880 --> 01:44:42,120
Speaker 5: Washington won its fifth straight with a late score at

1777
01:44:42,200 --> 01:44:45,599
Speaker 5: Dallas twenty three to nineteen. Washington clinches the number six

1778
01:44:45,720 --> 01:44:48,559
Speaker 5: seed and will play at Tampa Bay next Sunday night.

1779
01:44:48,960 --> 01:44:51,559
Speaker 5: New England will not be drafting number one overall. The

1780
01:44:51,600 --> 01:44:55,200
Speaker 5: Patriots won today against Buffalo twenty three to sixteen, and

1781
01:44:55,240 --> 01:44:59,080
Speaker 5: then the Patriots fired coach Gerrod Mayo. Indianapolis won in

1782
01:44:59,120 --> 01:45:02,439
Speaker 5: overtime against Jacksonville. The Colts say they are not firing

1783
01:45:02,479 --> 01:45:05,760
Speaker 5: their coach. Also, the Dolphins lost to finish eight to nine.

1784
01:45:05,880 --> 01:45:09,320
Speaker 5: Dolphins say they are not firing their coach. Houston won

1785
01:45:09,439 --> 01:45:12,360
Speaker 5: at Tennessee. The Titans at three and fourteen will be

1786
01:45:12,439 --> 01:45:16,960
Speaker 5: drafting number one overall. Cleveland selects number two now. Cleveland

1787
01:45:17,360 --> 01:45:21,400
Speaker 5: today fired offensive coordinator Ken Dorsey after losing the finale

1788
01:45:21,520 --> 01:45:24,880
Speaker 5: yesterday thirty five to ten to Baltimore. By the way,

1789
01:45:24,920 --> 01:45:29,080
Speaker 5: Baltimore will be hosting Pittsburgh in the playoffs on Saturday night.

1790
01:45:29,760 --> 01:45:33,479
Speaker 5: In the NBA, Houston held off the Lakers. At the

1791
01:45:33,560 --> 01:45:36,880
Speaker 5: end one nineteen one fifteen. Cleveland won its tenth in

1792
01:45:36,920 --> 01:45:40,360
Speaker 5: a row beating Charlotte. Oklahoma City won its fifteenth straight

1793
01:45:40,400 --> 01:45:43,559
Speaker 5: beating Boston, and a big lead for Sacramento at Golden

1794
01:45:43,600 --> 01:45:47,559
Speaker 5: State approaching mid fourth quarter one fifteen eighty three. And finally, guys,

1795
01:45:48,200 --> 01:45:50,320
Speaker 5: the new golf season got off to a start at

1796
01:45:50,320 --> 01:45:54,360
Speaker 5: Maui today with Hideki Matsuyama winning it. And he didn't

1797
01:45:54,400 --> 01:45:58,160
Speaker 5: just win, he was thirty five under par for the

1798
01:45:58,160 --> 01:46:01,960
Speaker 5: four rounds of golf. That is new PGA Tour record

1799
01:46:02,640 --> 01:46:06,840
Speaker 5: three shot victory over Colin Morikawa, who by the way,

1800
01:46:06,920 --> 01:46:10,600
Speaker 5: Morikawa didn't shoot worse than sixty six all week and

1801
01:46:10,720 --> 01:46:14,840
Speaker 5: settles for second place. Three point six million dollars for

1802
01:46:15,000 --> 01:46:18,559
Speaker 5: matsu Yama. This is the century A signature event twenty

1803
01:46:18,600 --> 01:46:21,200
Speaker 5: million dollar per so the three point six million to

1804
01:46:21,240 --> 01:46:24,400
Speaker 5: the winner that puts Matsuyama over sixty million dollars for

1805
01:46:24,520 --> 01:46:28,439
Speaker 5: career earnings. Again, Lion seventeen to nine over Minnesota, late.

1806
01:46:28,360 --> 01:46:29,080
Speaker 4: Third back to you.

1807
01:46:30,439 --> 01:46:34,240
Speaker 5: I'm out, bro. I still think the original's better.

1808
01:46:34,280 --> 01:46:42,240
Speaker 3: Come Sea ooh man, it has been a day. Great stuff, Steve, thank.

1809
01:46:42,080 --> 01:46:47,240
Speaker 2: You has all ways live tire rat dot Com Studios.

1810
01:46:47,720 --> 01:46:49,880
Speaker 2: You ever have one of those games that you watch

1811
01:46:50,520 --> 01:46:52,519
Speaker 2: where you're like, I don't really have a dog in

1812
01:46:52,520 --> 01:46:55,880
Speaker 2: the fight, but by the end of it you're frustrated

1813
01:46:56,240 --> 01:46:59,160
Speaker 2: for one of the teams, Yes, because they just this

1814
01:46:59,280 --> 01:46:59,880
Speaker 2: is one of them.

1815
01:47:00,200 --> 01:47:01,120
Speaker 3: Yeah, oh yeah.

1816
01:47:01,240 --> 01:47:06,920
Speaker 2: I'm a Vikings good good lord, good lord. And I

1817
01:47:06,920 --> 01:47:10,040
Speaker 2: would need multiple chapters to describe to somebody who has

1818
01:47:10,080 --> 01:47:13,840
Speaker 2: not watched this game why this has been so frustrating

1819
01:47:14,400 --> 01:47:17,120
Speaker 2: for the Vikings from the going forward on fourth down

1820
01:47:17,680 --> 01:47:22,839
Speaker 2: consistently to the misthrows in the red zone from Sam Darnold.

1821
01:47:23,000 --> 01:47:28,880
Speaker 2: It's just over and over. Situationally, this this score should

1822
01:47:28,920 --> 01:47:30,320
Speaker 2: not be what it is, but it is.

1823
01:47:30,680 --> 01:47:34,879
Speaker 4: And like I was saying about those first half points,

1824
01:47:36,160 --> 01:47:41,759
Speaker 4: like if we're in this game in the second half

1825
01:47:41,920 --> 01:47:45,080
Speaker 4: going into the fourth quarter, and we're down by two.

1826
01:47:47,120 --> 01:47:51,960
Speaker 4: It's a different energy than being down by eight. And

1827
01:47:52,000 --> 01:47:58,280
Speaker 4: that's what's happening. Like you mess up the flow by

1828
01:47:58,360 --> 01:48:02,720
Speaker 4: doing dumb things at the earlier in the game, and

1829
01:48:03,360 --> 01:48:07,120
Speaker 4: you get here and you're like, man, everybody on the

1830
01:48:07,160 --> 01:48:10,160
Speaker 4: sideline would have kick those field goal like everybody's doing it,

1831
01:48:10,840 --> 01:48:14,719
Speaker 4: which takes away from the what you should be doing.

1832
01:48:17,760 --> 01:48:22,160
Speaker 4: It's all psychology, man, it's not just analytics. And the

1833
01:48:22,200 --> 01:48:28,200
Speaker 4: book says and the machine told me to baber beer. Yeah, no,

1834
01:48:29,240 --> 01:48:32,800
Speaker 4: it's a playoff game. Being down two and being down

1835
01:48:32,840 --> 01:48:38,599
Speaker 4: eight on the road two completely different things, completely different.

1836
01:48:39,479 --> 01:48:43,080
Speaker 2: I will say this, and maybe I shouldn't because it's

1837
01:48:43,120 --> 01:48:46,479
Speaker 2: not like the vikings behind Sam Darnold have have done

1838
01:48:46,520 --> 01:48:49,679
Speaker 2: anything because he just got there. But I do think

1839
01:48:49,720 --> 01:48:54,680
Speaker 2: that this Minnesota group under Kevin o'cado, they've achieved some

1840
01:48:54,720 --> 01:48:58,200
Speaker 2: things in the last few years, and they have an

1841
01:48:58,240 --> 01:49:00,880
Speaker 2: advantage going into the fourth quarter that people might not

1842
01:49:01,000 --> 01:49:03,720
Speaker 2: be thinking about. And it's a little bit of basically

1843
01:49:04,520 --> 01:49:10,160
Speaker 2: the sphincter rule. Oh yeah, I watched this last year

1844
01:49:12,120 --> 01:49:16,320
Speaker 2: when the Lions thought that they had their trip to

1845
01:49:16,360 --> 01:49:21,360
Speaker 2: the Super Bowl all set. This organization, especially doing it

1846
01:49:21,400 --> 01:49:24,759
Speaker 2: at home, now tonight where the one seed is sitting

1847
01:49:24,840 --> 01:49:27,400
Speaker 2: there is sitting there, and you can start to feel

1848
01:49:27,439 --> 01:49:30,800
Speaker 2: it and taste it. That fan base has been through

1849
01:49:30,920 --> 01:49:37,080
Speaker 2: such an awful experience. There is such an unbelievably overwhelming

1850
01:49:37,360 --> 01:49:43,599
Speaker 2: inferiority complex with this organization that when they get close

1851
01:49:43,720 --> 01:49:45,640
Speaker 2: enough to taste something.

1852
01:49:48,439 --> 01:49:49,519
Speaker 3: They lose it.

1853
01:49:50,240 --> 01:49:55,760
Speaker 2: They get emotionally overwhelmed, and they're going to have to

1854
01:49:55,760 --> 01:49:56,360
Speaker 2: battle that in.

1855
01:49:56,320 --> 01:50:01,479
Speaker 3: This fourth quarter. Man, Now, because they.

1856
01:50:01,360 --> 01:50:04,599
Speaker 2: Start they start playing, They start playing not just their opponent,

1857
01:50:04,640 --> 01:50:06,200
Speaker 2: they start playing their own history.

1858
01:50:07,240 --> 01:50:16,080
Speaker 4: Yeah, yep, but when you're playing up against a team,

1859
01:50:16,160 --> 01:50:17,960
Speaker 4: you got to remember. Now they kicking the field goals,

1860
01:50:18,000 --> 01:50:18,599
Speaker 4: This is crazy.

1861
01:50:20,160 --> 01:50:26,760
Speaker 2: Wow, they're much further away. They also, Oh, there should

1862
01:50:26,800 --> 01:50:27,600
Speaker 2: have been a penalty on that.

1863
01:50:27,640 --> 01:50:32,559
Speaker 4: Last Yeah, but you know you're gonna get those. Nope, Nope,

1864
01:50:32,560 --> 01:50:36,240
Speaker 4: you're right, it's not gonna happen. Yeah, that's why you

1865
01:50:36,280 --> 01:50:38,719
Speaker 4: take Look, man, look not this is not rocket science.

1866
01:50:39,320 --> 01:50:42,519
Speaker 4: It doesn't take a machine and analytics to tell you

1867
01:50:43,320 --> 01:50:48,960
Speaker 4: what it feels. Right, missed it.

1868
01:50:50,640 --> 01:50:54,400
Speaker 2: Fiftys and yeah, I missed it to the right. And

1869
01:50:54,560 --> 01:50:56,640
Speaker 2: so this remains an eight point game. And now the

1870
01:50:56,680 --> 01:50:59,920
Speaker 2: Lions have very good field position with just a handful

1871
01:50:59,920 --> 01:51:03,000
Speaker 2: of ticks left in the third quarter, so we're live

1872
01:51:03,040 --> 01:51:05,840
Speaker 2: in the Tirerek dot com studios. Keep an eye on

1873
01:51:05,920 --> 01:51:10,560
Speaker 2: that as we head toward eight o'clock Pacific and eleven Eastern.

1874
01:51:11,240 --> 01:51:13,360
Speaker 2: Before we get out of here, I'd love to get

1875
01:51:13,439 --> 01:51:15,840
Speaker 2: your thoughts on some of the matchups. The rest of

1876
01:51:15,920 --> 01:51:18,760
Speaker 2: the matchups that we know about that are coming up

1877
01:51:19,160 --> 01:51:22,320
Speaker 2: next weekend, so we'll do that coming up next on

1878
01:51:22,400 --> 01:51:30,479
Speaker 2: Fox Sports Radio tyrereg dot com Studios. Hat Trick, Jamier Gibbs.

1879
01:51:32,240 --> 01:51:38,479
Speaker 2: Vikings are now in trouble. Yeah, it would have been

1880
01:51:38,560 --> 01:51:42,679
Speaker 2: nice to have those field goals. Hey man, you get

1881
01:51:42,720 --> 01:51:45,960
Speaker 2: what you get. You get what you get, and they're

1882
01:51:46,000 --> 01:51:49,320
Speaker 2: still going to get upset. But yeah, it looks like

1883
01:51:49,360 --> 01:51:53,599
Speaker 2: it's about to be a fifteen point game early fourth quarter,

1884
01:51:54,000 --> 01:51:56,080
Speaker 2: So the Vikings are going to be in go mode

1885
01:51:56,640 --> 01:52:00,360
Speaker 2: and the Lions are knocking on the door of the

1886
01:52:00,400 --> 01:52:02,960
Speaker 2: division and the one seed, and like I said, now

1887
01:52:03,000 --> 01:52:05,759
Speaker 2: is when they start to play their own history. Extra

1888
01:52:05,800 --> 01:52:08,760
Speaker 2: point is good. It's twenty four to nine. Keep you

1889
01:52:08,840 --> 01:52:11,400
Speaker 2: up to date there. The rest of the playoff schedule

1890
01:52:12,680 --> 01:52:17,120
Speaker 2: is set. So first of all, that Washington game you

1891
01:52:17,160 --> 01:52:19,280
Speaker 2: were talking about, you and I get to watch that

1892
01:52:19,360 --> 01:52:22,880
Speaker 2: together now next week. Oh yeah, that's gonna be Sunday night,

1893
01:52:22,960 --> 01:52:27,000
Speaker 2: five o'clock. But before we get to that, I know

1894
01:52:27,040 --> 01:52:30,080
Speaker 2: you're near and deer with the Houston Texans. They're hosting

1895
01:52:30,120 --> 01:52:32,880
Speaker 2: the Chargers. They're a dog in their own building. What

1896
01:52:32,920 --> 01:52:36,400
Speaker 2: do you think of that one?

1897
01:52:37,040 --> 01:52:38,560
Speaker 4: You know what, I don't know because I don't know

1898
01:52:38,600 --> 01:52:40,000
Speaker 4: what Texans team is going.

1899
01:52:39,960 --> 01:52:41,639
Speaker 3: To show up.

1900
01:52:42,520 --> 01:52:45,599
Speaker 4: I didn't get a read on who they were as

1901
01:52:45,640 --> 01:52:51,080
Speaker 4: a team this year. Some days it would come out,

1902
01:52:51,120 --> 01:52:54,320
Speaker 4: some weeks it would come out and be amazing, and

1903
01:52:54,360 --> 01:52:59,000
Speaker 4: then they play some games. I'm like, what is happening

1904
01:52:59,080 --> 01:53:03,400
Speaker 4: right now? They were too sporadic for me, and so

1905
01:53:03,880 --> 01:53:07,040
Speaker 4: coming into the playoffs with such a young team, such

1906
01:53:07,080 --> 01:53:10,679
Speaker 4: a young head coach, I don't I don't know what

1907
01:53:10,760 --> 01:53:15,680
Speaker 4: to expect, right, you get wild about you lose to

1908
01:53:15,720 --> 01:53:26,960
Speaker 4: the Jets, Yeah, you lose to the Titans, Like, I'm there,

1909
01:53:27,400 --> 01:53:29,519
Speaker 4: you scored VENs.

1910
01:53:29,880 --> 01:53:30,320
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1911
01:53:30,400 --> 01:53:32,800
Speaker 2: I mean, I don't think it's a great football team.

1912
01:53:32,840 --> 01:53:35,679
Speaker 2: And I think they've been very injured. And I think

1913
01:53:35,760 --> 01:53:39,799
Speaker 2: above all, the Houston Texans go through their season without

1914
01:53:39,800 --> 01:53:43,320
Speaker 2: really being challenged, and that's the problem.

1915
01:53:43,680 --> 01:53:44,040
Speaker 3: I don't.

1916
01:53:44,200 --> 01:53:46,840
Speaker 2: You know, you talked about this with the Nighters all year,

1917
01:53:46,880 --> 01:53:50,040
Speaker 2: where you're like, ah, you know, regular season, and I

1918
01:53:50,080 --> 01:53:53,200
Speaker 2: don't think that that applies to the Texans except for

1919
01:53:53,479 --> 01:53:57,560
Speaker 2: in this way. I just don't think that the division

1920
01:53:57,840 --> 01:54:01,160
Speaker 2: is ever really that's scary.

1921
01:54:02,240 --> 01:54:04,360
Speaker 3: No, it's not like they don't.

1922
01:54:04,400 --> 01:54:08,200
Speaker 2: It's that the Texans are playing their own sort of

1923
01:54:08,320 --> 01:54:09,360
Speaker 2: like league.

1924
01:54:09,920 --> 01:54:11,479
Speaker 3: They don't need to worry about that.

1925
01:54:11,640 --> 01:54:16,040
Speaker 2: That AFC is just littered with difficult teams and they

1926
01:54:16,040 --> 01:54:18,920
Speaker 2: don't really have to worry about it. They can win

1927
01:54:19,000 --> 01:54:21,880
Speaker 2: their nine or ten games and and host in the

1928
01:54:21,880 --> 01:54:23,840
Speaker 2: first round of the playoffs and go from there. But

1929
01:54:23,920 --> 01:54:28,800
Speaker 2: I don't think that they are in the class where

1930
01:54:28,800 --> 01:54:32,040
Speaker 2: they need to be to actually make noise this year

1931
01:54:32,040 --> 01:54:32,600
Speaker 2: in the playoffs.

1932
01:54:32,840 --> 01:54:36,080
Speaker 4: I would agree with that. I would agree with that.

1933
01:54:36,120 --> 01:54:38,919
Speaker 4: But this is you know, it's a even though they're

1934
01:54:41,360 --> 01:54:46,240
Speaker 4: you know, they're underdogs, it's a favorable matchup for them.

1935
01:54:46,480 --> 01:54:50,120
Speaker 2: It's workable. I wouldn't be shocked if they won that game.

1936
01:54:50,200 --> 01:54:53,280
Speaker 4: Yeah, that wouldn't surprise me at all.

1937
01:54:54,480 --> 01:54:57,200
Speaker 3: Baltimore host in Pittsburgh. Pittsburgh's lost four.

1938
01:54:57,040 --> 01:54:57,480
Speaker 4: In a row.

1939
01:54:57,880 --> 01:55:01,600
Speaker 3: Oh, they don't have a shot, no shot, No, why.

1940
01:55:02,720 --> 01:55:09,000
Speaker 4: Number one, You know, Baltimore this year has their number.

1941
01:55:09,800 --> 01:55:12,600
Speaker 4: It looks completely like two different teams are out there,

1942
01:55:12,640 --> 01:55:20,040
Speaker 4: two different caliber teams out there playing and for their

1943
01:55:20,400 --> 01:55:25,640
Speaker 4: offense has turned off. It's a lot of drops from

1944
01:55:25,680 --> 01:55:30,000
Speaker 4: their guy we were just talking about, who probably wants

1945
01:55:30,000 --> 01:55:36,760
Speaker 4: a big bag, but it just it doesn't. I don't

1946
01:55:37,200 --> 01:55:41,120
Speaker 4: fear it. I don't fear that offense. And I think

1947
01:55:41,160 --> 01:55:46,240
Speaker 4: the defense can be neutralized by Derrick Henry and Lamar Jackson.

1948
01:55:46,240 --> 01:55:52,200
Speaker 4: They won't make the mistake they did last year against

1949
01:55:52,400 --> 01:55:54,880
Speaker 4: Kansas City and Lamar just standing in the pocket. They

1950
01:55:54,920 --> 01:55:57,520
Speaker 4: won't do that again. I can promise you that. M hm.

1951
01:55:58,320 --> 01:56:00,880
Speaker 4: So I think they're too multi fast did it ford

1952
01:56:02,880 --> 01:56:05,680
Speaker 4: for Pittsburgh to really do anything to have a chance.

1953
01:56:06,640 --> 01:56:09,160
Speaker 2: It's interesting you brought up Dereck Henry, and I know

1954
01:56:09,200 --> 01:56:12,440
Speaker 2: you wanted to talk about this earlier, but the running

1955
01:56:12,480 --> 01:56:17,600
Speaker 2: back reclamation projects around the league, and and look at

1956
01:56:17,720 --> 01:56:21,880
Speaker 2: how many of them will be representing their teams in

1957
01:56:21,920 --> 01:56:26,360
Speaker 2: the playoffs this year. It's Derrick Henry, it's Saquon Barkley,

1958
01:56:26,560 --> 01:56:29,480
Speaker 2: it's Josh Jacobs, it's Aaron Jones.

1959
01:56:31,080 --> 01:56:33,640
Speaker 3: You know, we could go on.

1960
01:56:34,480 --> 01:56:36,600
Speaker 4: None of their teams wanted them.

1961
01:56:36,360 --> 01:56:38,280
Speaker 3: The Chargers, the both of their.

1962
01:56:38,160 --> 01:56:44,840
Speaker 4: Backs, None of their teams wanted them, they didn't value them. Hmm.

1963
01:56:46,000 --> 01:56:53,760
Speaker 4: We talked earlier about left upon Joe Mixon. All those

1964
01:56:53,760 --> 01:56:59,440
Speaker 4: guys are pro bowlers. Hello, all right, well I see

1965
01:56:59,480 --> 01:57:04,280
Speaker 4: that pinguin switching swinging back or at least coming off

1966
01:57:04,960 --> 01:57:08,800
Speaker 4: the high priced wide receiver.

1967
01:57:09,600 --> 01:57:16,880
Speaker 3: Yeah it should it should, no doubt should. Yeah. It

1968
01:57:16,960 --> 01:57:20,440
Speaker 3: has Buffalo hosting Denver.

1969
01:57:21,520 --> 01:57:23,920
Speaker 2: You know, it's probably a little early to expect much

1970
01:57:23,920 --> 01:57:25,080
Speaker 2: out of Denver in that game.

1971
01:57:25,120 --> 01:57:29,080
Speaker 3: What what do you think about? Scares me? You think?

1972
01:57:29,120 --> 01:57:32,040
Speaker 3: So that's interesting because they don't know any better.

1973
01:57:32,880 --> 01:57:36,520
Speaker 4: Shan does. Sean does, But but bo Nicks just might

1974
01:57:36,680 --> 01:57:42,000
Speaker 4: be like, might be filling themselves after after today.

1975
01:57:42,760 --> 01:57:46,600
Speaker 3: Spread is big, it is huge, Buffalo by nine. No,

1976
01:57:49,200 --> 01:57:52,560
Speaker 3: what do you what do you think about? Yeah? No,

1977
01:57:52,720 --> 01:57:53,480
Speaker 3: I hear you.

1978
01:57:54,240 --> 01:57:57,120
Speaker 2: Uh the Green Bay Philadelphia game. Obviously we're waiting on

1979
01:57:57,240 --> 01:57:57,760
Speaker 2: Jordan Love.

1980
01:57:58,600 --> 01:58:01,040
Speaker 4: But it's too many things up in the air, like

1981
01:58:01,560 --> 01:58:05,760
Speaker 4: you know, but you know, look Philly they have they

1982
01:58:05,800 --> 01:58:08,920
Speaker 4: have the recipe and the ball off to that guy

1983
01:58:09,880 --> 01:58:15,680
Speaker 4: play action. You got two serious weapons and and and

1984
01:58:16,040 --> 01:58:23,320
Speaker 4: Smith and yeah and Brown sure for sure, Yeah they

1985
01:58:23,440 --> 01:58:23,800
Speaker 4: got it.

1986
01:58:26,120 --> 01:58:27,800
Speaker 2: Those are the games that will take us right up

1987
01:58:27,840 --> 01:58:29,920
Speaker 2: to our next show, so we can deal with Washington

1988
01:58:30,000 --> 01:58:33,080
Speaker 2: and Tampa Bay and whoever the Rams are gonna Monday night,

1989
01:58:33,160 --> 01:58:34,160
Speaker 2: we can deal with that.

1990
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Speaker 3: Uh next week. Uh great to show. Happy New Year everybody, Yes,

1991
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Speaker 3: Happy New Year everyone for Ephraim Salaam.

1992
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1993
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