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Speaker 1: Mother Knows Death starring Nicole and Jemmy and Maria qk Hi.

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Speaker 2: Everyone welcome The Mother Knows Death. This has probably been

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Speaker 2: the most packed week of the year for news stories,

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Speaker 2: at least for our content anyway. So we had an

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Speaker 2: emergency breaking news episode yesterday. I hope you guys check

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Speaker 2: that out because of all of the stories over the weekend,

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Speaker 2: and today we're going to talk about the latest update

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Speaker 2: with what's going on with the murder of Rob Reiner

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Speaker 2: and his wife. We have an update on a story

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Speaker 2: we talked about last week involving a pregnant mother that

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Speaker 2: went missing and her body was found without the baby.

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Speaker 2: A news story coming out of New York City involving

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Speaker 2: tourists who are getting violently at There's actually two different stories,

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Speaker 2: a man who purade his wife, Yes you heard me right,

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Speaker 2: he purade his wife, and two really bizarre stories involving

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Speaker 2: pepper spray. We'll finish off the episode with your emails,

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Speaker 2: all that and Moral Titty's episode, what's the latest with

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Speaker 1: All right, So, just as a reminder, if somebody didn't

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Speaker 1: get a chance to listen to our emergency episode yesterday,

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Speaker 1: Famed Hollywood director Rob Reiner and his wife were found

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Speaker 1: dead in their La home. So basically what we know

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Speaker 1: now is that Nick Reiner, who is their son and

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Speaker 1: who was arrested for this crime. Now, so he had

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Speaker 1: checked into this hotel in Santa Monica at four am

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Speaker 2: I don't know, maybe he had his hands wrapped up

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Speaker 2: just get really bad, because I'm sure the mom or

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Speaker 2: mean that there could have even been a period where

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Speaker 2: it back. I mean, there's just so many different circumstances

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Speaker 2: obviously they'll give him an exam. I'm assuming is he

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Speaker 1: Well, it seems right now that he's just being held

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Speaker 2: Yeah, which is good because he seems like he's this

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Speaker 2: isn't like he's not a threat to anyone else. He

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Speaker 2: and I mean it sucks. I know, the guys had

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Speaker 1: Totally, and you know, like I don't know, maybe they

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Speaker 1: So what's also kind of scary is that, So we

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Speaker 1: I guess we can't assume that the murders happened at

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Speaker 1: So what we did know yesterday was that Saturday night,

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that which is scary. I mean, all these stories

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Speaker 1: What I saw being reported literally minutes before where we

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Speaker 1: Well that and it's like the holidays right now, so

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Speaker 2: And they were I think that they were celebrating Honikah

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Like I think Alan Jackson did a really great

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Speaker 2: All Right, So an update on this, This poor pregnant

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Speaker 2: So according to the autopsy report, they could really determine

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Speaker 1: Yeah, so basically what we know right now. So this

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Speaker 2: I don't know. These people are just total trash. I

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Speaker 2: on separate drug charges. Just like like there's just total

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Speaker 1: Yeah, he gets arrested on separate drug chargers, and her

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Speaker 2: For the murder now, and so like what I know

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Speaker 1: Yeah, But then she also was like, well, I know

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, and it's what's really really upsetting about

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Speaker 1: That's totally a possibility too. It's not like they're like

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Speaker 2: Is going on in your life? Why'd you cut out

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Speaker 2: was trying to get rid of her body. Like the

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Speaker 2: lengths people will go to to try to cover something up.

436
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Speaker 2: But I mean, also, we don't know anything about the relationship,

437
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Speaker 2: but I'm sure that's not what happened.

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Speaker 1: No, all right, So this terrible story broke last week

439
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Speaker 1: that a woman was changing her baby's diaper in the

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Speaker 1: bathroom at Macy's in New York City and out of nowhere,

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Speaker 1: this homeless woman barged in and started stabbing her.

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Speaker 2: Just so outrageous. Right, she's from California, she's here visiting

443
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Speaker 2: because New York is beautiful at Christmas time. You're in

444
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Speaker 2: Macy's of all places, just trying to change your kid.

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Speaker 2: This woman, so, she was in a psychiatric hospital for

446
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Speaker 2: a year and was released that morning and went this,

447
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Speaker 2: I just can't believe this. Actually, she heard voices in

448
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Speaker 2: her head telling her that she had to kill someone,

449
00:24:03,960 --> 00:24:06,600
Speaker 2: went to that Macy's, bought a knife and use that

450
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Speaker 2: knife to try to kill this woman. Like, how was

451
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Speaker 2: how did someone determine the morning that she was released

452
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Speaker 2: that she was okay to be released? I don't know.

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Speaker 1: And then there's other information coming out that she was

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Speaker 1: in and out of psychiatric facilities and that she thought

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Speaker 1: she'd be better off in prison, So like, is she

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Speaker 1: using that as an excuse as to just being rerouted

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Speaker 1: into a different type of facility.

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Speaker 2: Well, I don't nobody's checking to make sure that she's

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Speaker 2: accounted for at all times.

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Speaker 1: I don't know, Like as a preg myself, this made

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Speaker 1: me really upset. I think you're very vulnerable when you

462
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Speaker 1: have a baby. I was just thinking, you know, I

463
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Speaker 1: don't even think on this podcast, but in the news

464
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Speaker 1: sometimes she'll just hear like a lady went to Target

465
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Speaker 1: and she's just putting her baby back in the car

466
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Speaker 1: and then gets attacked, right, And it just makes me

467
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Speaker 1: so upset to think about, like you're just doing something

468
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Speaker 1: so innocent, and especially in this case, these people are

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Speaker 1: like on vacation going to this that's notable. I mean,

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Speaker 1: it's featured in the Macy's Day Parade. It's this huge

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Speaker 1: split space. You're just trying to enjoy your day and

472
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Speaker 1: then this crazy person that should not be amongst society

473
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Speaker 1: comes in and attacks you out of nowhere for no reason.

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Speaker 2: It's interesting actually because there's another case too this week

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Speaker 2: of a tourist being a victim, and obviously there's a

476
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Speaker 2: lot of tourists in New York City and I feel

477
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Speaker 2: like we just went on Friday to have dinner with

478
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Speaker 2: our friends, right, But we'ren't from New York, so I

479
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Speaker 2: just don't. I don't walk around like very vigilant all

480
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Speaker 2: the time, looking around, thinking that someone's going to attack me,

481
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Speaker 2: even though you hear about those stories all the time,

482
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Speaker 2: even in I mean, both of the stories that we

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Speaker 2: have today are happening and what are considered to be

484
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Speaker 2: really populated tourist areas, right, so where a normal person

485
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Speaker 2: visiting would be like, oh, this is the safest because

486
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Speaker 2: this is where everybody goes all the time. And like

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Speaker 2: you're that lady's from California, Like when you're from any

488
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Speaker 2: other part of the world or at least country anyway,

489
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Speaker 2: you're not really going there like thinking that anybody that's

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Speaker 2: standing next to you is going to just randomly try

491
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Speaker 2: to kill you, because that doesn't happen in the world

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Speaker 2: as frequently as it does there.

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Speaker 1: No, I mean just a couple of weeks. I mean,

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Speaker 1: I guess a month ago, DEDI and I were in

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Speaker 1: New York and we're just walking around. We're like, oh,

496
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Speaker 1: let's go in sex, Let's go in all these stores

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Speaker 1: we don't have, you know, just running around, so like

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Speaker 1: to think you're just like going around minding your own business,

499
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Speaker 1: and then somebody comes out of nowhere when you're like, oh,

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Speaker 1: I'm off today, I'm gonna have a nice day and

501
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Speaker 1: like just wander around and do something nice.

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Speaker 2: Whatever.

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Speaker 1: It's just really upsetting and it makes me really upset,

504
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Speaker 1: like people attacking people with babies that are so vulnerable.

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Speaker 2: So the baby fell on the ground, Oh my gosh,

506
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Speaker 2: and they said the baby was okay. So I don't

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Speaker 2: know how old the baby was or if it was

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Speaker 2: like a like a two year old baby or was

509
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Speaker 2: it a two month old baby. I don't know. But

510
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Speaker 2: she also was stabbed obviously, so had to have treatment

511
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Speaker 2: and and now like her and her husband and this

512
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Speaker 2: baby now are having to stay in New York so

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Speaker 2: she could get treatment in the hospital. It's just like

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Speaker 2: I don't I just don't even know what to say

515
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Speaker 2: and whatever, Like, how does somebody get released that's in

516
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Speaker 2: this kind of condition. Well, yeah, they'll have to answer

517
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Speaker 2: for this obviously, because.

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Speaker 1: She clearly was not in the shape to be released.

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Speaker 1: And I mean, did you see what was going on

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Speaker 1: in her past. She was arrested in twenty eighteen for

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Speaker 1: posting on Facebook she wanted to kill Senator Elizabeth Warren,

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Speaker 1: and then after that she was determined to be incapacitated

523
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Speaker 1: in court, ordered to take schizophrenia medication, and then she

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Speaker 1: was just in and out of psychiatric facilities since then basically,

525
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Speaker 1: so I don't understand what this passed and then mixed

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Speaker 1: with her actions immediately upon release, who determined she was

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Speaker 1: okay to get out.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, And I don't know how they because sometimes they

529
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Speaker 2: release people into the custody of family and saying like,

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Speaker 2: you have to make sure this person takes their medicine

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Speaker 2: because when they take their medicine, they're not a threat, right,

532
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Speaker 2: But I mean, just try to force somebody that doesn't

533
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Speaker 2: want to do something like that to do it. It's

534
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Speaker 2: just it's just it's hard to do. And I don't

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Speaker 2: know what the solution is, but it seems like a

536
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Speaker 2: lot of these people that are just kind of roam

537
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Speaker 2: in the streets are are not getting or not taking

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Speaker 2: their medicine. And when you're in that mindset of not

539
00:28:33,040 --> 00:28:36,800
Speaker 2: being treated and not feeling well and don't take your medicine,

540
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Speaker 2: you don't even realize that you would be better off

541
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Speaker 2: if you took it, you know what I mean, Like

542
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Speaker 2: you're just not in the right mindset. So some responsible

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Speaker 2: adult needs to be in charge of those people. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: So then, in a totally separate incident in Times Square,

545
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Speaker 1: these two tourists were waiting for a bus and this

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Speaker 1: guy came up to them attack them. He slapped this

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Speaker 1: one woman so hard in the face that she fell

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Speaker 1: to the ground, and then he ended up trying to

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Speaker 1: stab this guy, but luckily his winter coat was so

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Speaker 1: thick that it prevented him from getting a serious injury.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean. And there was a story going viral

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Speaker 2: a couple weeks ago about an NYU student who was

553
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Speaker 2: just walking up the street and another person like it

554
00:29:19,960 --> 00:29:25,160
Speaker 2: was serious history of mental illness in and out slapped

555
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Speaker 2: her on the ass, like really really hard and she

556
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Speaker 2: was just walking up the street and totally got knocked

557
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Speaker 2: over by it, right, And she went on TikTok and

558
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Speaker 2: went viral with this video, and then her friend ended

559
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Speaker 2: up going to a store and got it on surveillance,

560
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Speaker 2: and in a crazy turn of events, they actually caught

561
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Speaker 2: the guy and were able to figure out who did

562
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Speaker 2: this and stuff which doesn't happen a lot of times,

563
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Speaker 2: like these crimes happen. And then they just wander off

564
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Speaker 2: into the night and nobody knows who it was or anything.

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Speaker 2: But when you watch the video of that too, you

566
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Speaker 2: you're just thinking, like it was broad daylight in front

567
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Speaker 2: of all these people just doing stuff like that. Like

568
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Speaker 2: imagine just walking up the street in Times Square when

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Speaker 2: we're walking around looking for our roasted coconut and someone

570
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Speaker 2: just coming up to you and slapping you across the

571
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Speaker 2: face so hard that you fall to the ground.

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Speaker 1: I mean, I can't imagine. But like, I also think

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Speaker 1: that in general, with people like this walking around, people

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Speaker 1: need to be extra vigilant and really be paying attention

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Speaker 1: to their surroundings.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, and the story that I was talking about,

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Speaker 2: I believe she was an NYU student, Like she was

578
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Speaker 2: wearing earphones and like, I mean, she lived on campus,

579
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Speaker 2: so she did it all the time. And it's really

580
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Speaker 2: unfortunate to tell people that they can't walk around with

581
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Speaker 2: earphones on because like someone's going to attack them, because

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Speaker 2: that's absolutely ridiculous. But I don't think in her particular

583
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Speaker 2: case it matter, because when you look at the video,

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Speaker 2: it's like the guy just kind of runs up and

585
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Speaker 2: does it, Like even she wouldn't have heard it. Happening,

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Speaker 2: you know, until it actually happened.

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Speaker 1: So well, there was a trend. I hate to say

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Speaker 1: trend because so messed up, but there was a trend

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Speaker 1: or something going on I think last summer, not this

590
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Speaker 1: past summer, like summer of twenty twenty four, where influencers

591
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Speaker 1: would just be like filming themselves walk in the streets

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Speaker 1: talking and people would just punch them in the face.

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Speaker 1: It was happening to a ton of people. Yeah, I

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Speaker 1: just it just makes me like so nervous. And I

595
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Speaker 1: don't know it.

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Speaker 2: I mean, like, has this always been happening? Is it

597
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Speaker 2: increasing just because of social media and because we just

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Speaker 2: hear about it more. I don't know. It's just like

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Speaker 2: it just seems like there's If you think about it, though,

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Speaker 2: it's like all of the millions of people that are

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Speaker 2: in New York every single day that are visiting and

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Speaker 2: this and that there's there's never anything that happens, I

603
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Speaker 2: mean comparative to how many people visit versus how many

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Speaker 2: incidents happen. But it's still scary to think about because

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Speaker 2: it could happen to you.

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Speaker 1: their food.

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Speaker 2: It's so crazy, like the husband, I mean, this is

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Speaker 2: what you could just totally picture this going down because

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Speaker 2: the husband looks at the bag and decided that the

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Speaker 2: bag was tampered with. And you know, I mean, we

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Speaker 2: get DoorDash all the time, and I love when restaurants

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Speaker 2: put a sticker over top of the bag to seal

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Speaker 2: the bag, showing that you know they sealed it, because

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Speaker 2: there's been times where, I mean a lot of times

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Speaker 2: I get the bag and it smells like weed or cigarettes,

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Speaker 2: which is just kind of gross to me.

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Speaker 1: Cigarette is the grossest it is.

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Speaker 2: The cigarettes are disgusting, but we too, like I don't

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Speaker 2: really want to smell that in my food, and it

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Speaker 2: like absorbs in those paper bags. But there's been times

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Speaker 2: where I've ordered things like French fries or something like

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Speaker 2: that and the door dash driver, I mean this is

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Speaker 2: years ago, would go just decide to like eat half

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Speaker 2: of your thing of fries while it was in the car,

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Speaker 2: because I mean they're driving, they're not eating, they're smelling

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Speaker 2: good food. It's just tempting whatever, right, So the restaurants

652
00:34:22,640 --> 00:34:26,080
Speaker 2: started to seal up the bags, which I love. So

653
00:34:26,160 --> 00:34:28,360
Speaker 2: this guy checked the bag and noticed that the bag

654
00:34:28,440 --> 00:34:32,080
Speaker 2: was tampered with and also saw that there was there

655
00:34:32,200 --> 00:34:35,120
Speaker 2: was something that appeared to be sprayed on the outside

656
00:34:35,200 --> 00:34:37,920
Speaker 2: of it. So he just was trying to investigate to

657
00:34:37,920 --> 00:34:40,080
Speaker 2: be like what happened here, like let me see who

658
00:34:40,200 --> 00:34:43,360
Speaker 2: dropped this off, and probably was absolutely shocked when he

659
00:34:43,400 --> 00:34:46,200
Speaker 2: came across this footage on his doorbell camera.

660
00:34:47,440 --> 00:34:50,080
Speaker 1: I just want to say side note, the best restaurant

661
00:34:50,200 --> 00:34:53,880
Speaker 1: ever with sealing it is Honey Grow because they sealed

662
00:34:53,920 --> 00:34:57,120
Speaker 1: the container with a very strong sticker that you would

663
00:34:57,160 --> 00:34:59,319
Speaker 1: know if it got ripped up, and the same with

664
00:34:59,360 --> 00:35:02,759
Speaker 1: the bag. I do appreciate that a lot. I will say, like,

665
00:35:02,840 --> 00:35:05,279
Speaker 1: if this girl was gonna do this, is she a

666
00:35:05,320 --> 00:35:08,759
Speaker 1: fucking idiot doing it in front of the camera, Like

667
00:35:08,840 --> 00:35:12,160
Speaker 1: if your intent was to poison somebody, why wouldn't you

668
00:35:12,400 --> 00:35:15,160
Speaker 1: do it elsewhere? It just seems so stupid to do

669
00:35:15,200 --> 00:35:18,040
Speaker 1: it in general, and why would you do it in general?

670
00:35:18,280 --> 00:35:20,440
Speaker 1: She's trying to say she was trying to spray a

671
00:35:20,520 --> 00:35:23,680
Speaker 1: spider and she's deadly afraid of spiders. And they're like, yeah, no,

672
00:35:23,719 --> 00:35:25,800
Speaker 1: it was thirty five degrees out and there's not spiders

673
00:35:25,840 --> 00:35:26,200
Speaker 1: right now.

674
00:35:27,400 --> 00:35:30,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, And I really, I really don't understand what she

675
00:35:30,680 --> 00:35:34,400
Speaker 2: was trying to do. Is there a possibility that she

676
00:35:34,520 --> 00:35:37,880
Speaker 2: knew the people? Because then maybe I like, is this

677
00:35:38,080 --> 00:35:40,799
Speaker 2: just like a random sick act that she and then

678
00:35:40,960 --> 00:35:43,640
Speaker 2: you have to think, okay, well how long? Like this

679
00:35:43,719 --> 00:35:46,080
Speaker 2: is what investigators need to be figuring out right now?

680
00:35:46,120 --> 00:35:49,839
Speaker 2: How long has she been working for door Dash Cause

681
00:35:50,480 --> 00:35:53,440
Speaker 2: I'm not sure, Like if I started coughing like that

682
00:35:53,600 --> 00:35:57,279
Speaker 2: and stuff, obviously I would call. I would think it

683
00:35:57,360 --> 00:36:01,279
Speaker 2: was the restaurant, probably from you know, going near the

684
00:36:01,320 --> 00:36:04,960
Speaker 2: food and like what if you don't have a doorbell

685
00:36:05,000 --> 00:36:08,759
Speaker 2: camera for example? Like have other people gotten sick? How

686
00:36:08,800 --> 00:36:11,200
Speaker 2: long she'd been working there? Are there are accounts of

687
00:36:11,239 --> 00:36:17,160
Speaker 2: other people complaining about this, because I mean, she could

688
00:36:17,200 --> 00:36:20,759
Speaker 2: have really really hurt these people, especially if they had

689
00:36:20,760 --> 00:36:25,360
Speaker 2: it underlying medical conditions and stuff. I mean, if you

690
00:36:25,440 --> 00:36:30,600
Speaker 2: ever been exposed to pepper spray, it's terrible. It's absolutely terrible.

691
00:36:30,640 --> 00:36:34,200
Speaker 2: It's capsaicin from a chili pepper, like in a high

692
00:36:34,239 --> 00:36:37,560
Speaker 2: concentrated oil that's sprayed right, And I don't know if

693
00:36:37,600 --> 00:36:39,480
Speaker 2: you could even see this on the video. But like

694
00:36:39,560 --> 00:36:42,000
Speaker 2: even if the bag was unsealed, she had to have

695
00:36:42,760 --> 00:36:44,560
Speaker 2: like let's say you woulder Chick fil A and you

696
00:36:44,640 --> 00:36:48,440
Speaker 2: open the bag, right, You'll have exposure automatically to the

697
00:36:48,480 --> 00:36:50,800
Speaker 2: food because the French friser just in the box in

698
00:36:50,840 --> 00:36:53,680
Speaker 2: the bag, well, and you could spray it. But like

699
00:36:54,760 --> 00:36:58,000
Speaker 2: if you get something that's in plastic containers, she would

700
00:36:58,000 --> 00:36:59,880
Speaker 2: have had to lift up the lid for the container

701
00:37:00,160 --> 00:37:02,839
Speaker 2: well to have direct access to the food. Well, they

702
00:37:02,840 --> 00:37:05,520
Speaker 2: were getting Arby, So let's let's okay, then that's an

703
00:37:05,520 --> 00:37:07,319
Speaker 2: old or Chick fil as an example, you have a

704
00:37:07,360 --> 00:37:11,200
Speaker 2: shitty thin paper bag and then everything is exposed within

705
00:37:11,280 --> 00:37:14,640
Speaker 2: the containers. It's yeah, so that's exact. So it was Arby's.

706
00:37:14,640 --> 00:37:18,279
Speaker 2: You're saying, yeah, so they got like fries or what.

707
00:37:18,360 --> 00:37:20,799
Speaker 2: I don't even know. I've I've literally never been to Arby.

708
00:37:21,120 --> 00:37:22,880
Speaker 1: Didn't see what the meal was.

709
00:37:22,960 --> 00:37:25,319
Speaker 2: But regardless, Like, okay, let's say you get like a

710
00:37:25,400 --> 00:37:27,960
Speaker 2: traditional value meal thing that you would get at a

711
00:37:28,000 --> 00:37:30,600
Speaker 2: fast food place. So you have fries and a sandwich

712
00:37:30,640 --> 00:37:33,040
Speaker 2: in the bag. Well, when you pull the fries out

713
00:37:33,600 --> 00:37:35,440
Speaker 2: of the bag, what do you do? You just like

714
00:37:35,520 --> 00:37:37,359
Speaker 2: stick your hand in and start eating. You're not like

715
00:37:37,480 --> 00:37:41,000
Speaker 2: looking at it and expecting it and stuff like. Obviously

716
00:37:41,040 --> 00:37:43,319
Speaker 2: the husband did see that something was sprayed on the

717
00:37:43,360 --> 00:37:45,360
Speaker 2: outside of the bag when they looked at it, but

718
00:37:45,960 --> 00:37:48,520
Speaker 2: it could have just been like grease, like well no

719
00:37:48,640 --> 00:37:51,240
Speaker 2: it yeah, like it could have just been greased exactly.

720
00:37:51,480 --> 00:37:53,359
Speaker 2: I was saying, like if I saw that, I would

721
00:37:53,400 --> 00:37:55,360
Speaker 2: have just assumed it was grease, not that somebody like

722
00:37:55,440 --> 00:37:59,240
Speaker 2: sprayed something, yeah, by the bag. But so the pepper

723
00:37:59,280 --> 00:38:02,960
Speaker 2: spray is an and it, I mean spray leaves a

724
00:38:03,000 --> 00:38:05,719
Speaker 2: specific thing. So when he was analyzing it, he was

725
00:38:05,719 --> 00:38:08,240
Speaker 2: probably like, this looks weird. It looks like a spray,

726
00:38:08,920 --> 00:38:12,279
Speaker 2: but like probably did think nothing of it if they

727
00:38:12,320 --> 00:38:14,840
Speaker 2: saw it at first, because why would you. So she

728
00:38:15,040 --> 00:38:19,759
Speaker 2: probably bit into fries and it started obviously like if

729
00:38:19,800 --> 00:38:22,359
Speaker 2: you bite into a chili pepper, what happens, Like your

730
00:38:22,360 --> 00:38:24,960
Speaker 2: face feels like it's on fire, it's burning all over

731
00:38:25,000 --> 00:38:30,719
Speaker 2: the place, and expect like not knowing that right, like

732
00:38:30,760 --> 00:38:34,640
Speaker 2: you're eating something like that, thinking you're having salty potatoes

733
00:38:35,120 --> 00:38:38,000
Speaker 2: and you and you have this like a very hot

734
00:38:38,040 --> 00:38:41,040
Speaker 2: pepper in your mouth. Of course you're freaking out. And

735
00:38:41,080 --> 00:38:43,719
Speaker 2: then so then you swallow it right, and it just

736
00:38:43,840 --> 00:38:46,600
Speaker 2: is burning your mucosa all the way down your esophagus

737
00:38:46,640 --> 00:38:49,680
Speaker 2: into your stomach and could cause you to get gastritis.

738
00:38:49,760 --> 00:38:54,560
Speaker 2: But she threw up, probably maybe because of the chemical,

739
00:38:54,600 --> 00:38:56,840
Speaker 2: but just because of it, just in general, because of

740
00:38:56,880 --> 00:39:00,000
Speaker 2: the anxiety, and then all of that goes up again

741
00:39:00,320 --> 00:39:02,600
Speaker 2: out of her mouth and fills her mouth up again

742
00:39:03,080 --> 00:39:05,480
Speaker 2: because they actually encourage you not to throw up if

743
00:39:05,520 --> 00:39:11,040
Speaker 2: you do take it somehow. So so yeah, she was significant.

744
00:39:11,080 --> 00:39:14,279
Speaker 2: She got significantly sick, and that could have been bad

745
00:39:14,360 --> 00:39:19,000
Speaker 2: if she had underlying asthma or heart condition or any

746
00:39:19,000 --> 00:39:23,080
Speaker 2: other kind of respiratory condition like that person tried to

747
00:39:23,400 --> 00:39:25,239
Speaker 2: hurt them. Yeah.

748
00:39:25,280 --> 00:39:27,880
Speaker 1: I don't buy this spider story at all. Also, she

749
00:39:28,080 --> 00:39:31,240
Speaker 1: was from Kentucky, so she was visiting Indiana where this happened.

750
00:39:31,239 --> 00:39:33,480
Speaker 1: Said she was visiting her dad and trying to work

751
00:39:33,520 --> 00:39:37,319
Speaker 1: through the trip. Jordash immediately deactivated the driver's account, and

752
00:39:37,360 --> 00:39:39,640
Speaker 1: now she's been arrested as a Friday and she's facing

753
00:39:39,719 --> 00:39:44,560
Speaker 1: felony charges. Good listen, if you really were trying to

754
00:39:44,640 --> 00:39:47,040
Speaker 1: kill a spider, why are you gonna use pepper'sh Brady

755
00:39:47,080 --> 00:39:49,239
Speaker 1: kill a spider? It doesn't even make sense. And then

756
00:39:49,320 --> 00:39:52,080
Speaker 1: like you deliver food for a living, and you don't know,

757
00:39:52,120 --> 00:39:54,200
Speaker 1: you don't spray something like that near food.

758
00:39:54,520 --> 00:39:56,600
Speaker 2: Why would you kill Why would you care about a

759
00:39:56,600 --> 00:39:59,080
Speaker 2: spider that's at somebody else's house when you're getting ready

760
00:39:59,120 --> 00:39:59,680
Speaker 2: to go in your.

761
00:39:59,560 --> 00:40:01,480
Speaker 1: Car, says she was definitely afraid of them.

762
00:40:01,840 --> 00:40:04,319
Speaker 2: Okay, so I just call so then get away from

763
00:40:04,320 --> 00:40:04,879
Speaker 2: it and not.

764
00:40:05,960 --> 00:40:08,800
Speaker 1: It dropped the bag on the porch and turn around

765
00:40:08,800 --> 00:40:10,040
Speaker 1: and walk back to your car.

766
00:40:10,320 --> 00:40:15,080
Speaker 2: You know, I want to talk about inappropriate delivery drivers

767
00:40:15,080 --> 00:40:19,160
Speaker 2: for a second, actually, because one day I got food delivered.

768
00:40:19,400 --> 00:40:22,560
Speaker 2: It was it wasn't DoorDash, it was like grocery thing, right,

769
00:40:23,239 --> 00:40:26,359
Speaker 2: and I just it said that my order was here,

770
00:40:26,480 --> 00:40:29,840
Speaker 2: said someone was on my porch for on my phone

771
00:40:29,880 --> 00:40:32,440
Speaker 2: and I looked at it and I saw so I

772
00:40:32,480 --> 00:40:35,800
Speaker 2: guess my delivery driver was a guy. And then he

773
00:40:36,000 --> 00:40:38,240
Speaker 2: drops off the food and goes back in the car

774
00:40:38,280 --> 00:40:41,640
Speaker 2: and like gets his girlfriend. She comes out and starts

775
00:40:41,880 --> 00:40:46,600
Speaker 2: making like social media videos of my house. Remember I

776
00:40:46,680 --> 00:40:48,840
Speaker 2: told you that, Like, ye, she's on my porch with

777
00:40:48,920 --> 00:40:52,520
Speaker 2: her phone like making videos and talking and stuff because

778
00:40:52,520 --> 00:40:55,200
Speaker 2: like my house is cute, right, so like people might

779
00:40:55,239 --> 00:40:57,400
Speaker 2: want to take a picture of it. Or something, and

780
00:40:57,480 --> 00:41:00,520
Speaker 2: I'm just like, what is happening right now? And my

781
00:41:00,640 --> 00:41:03,480
Speaker 2: first instinct is like I want to call whoever it

782
00:41:03,640 --> 00:41:07,799
Speaker 2: was the instacar, whoever delivered Amazon. I don't remember who

783
00:41:07,840 --> 00:41:11,000
Speaker 2: it was, and I just want to call and say, like, hey,

784
00:41:11,600 --> 00:41:14,600
Speaker 2: I have this on video for multiple minutes of this

785
00:41:14,680 --> 00:41:16,960
Speaker 2: girl making multiple videos of my house and I don't

786
00:41:16,960 --> 00:41:19,280
Speaker 2: really want my house on social media like that without

787
00:41:19,320 --> 00:41:22,600
Speaker 2: my consent and all this stuff and and like but

788
00:41:22,640 --> 00:41:25,360
Speaker 2: then I'm afraid that they're going to retaliate against me

789
00:41:26,040 --> 00:41:28,479
Speaker 2: if I call, because now they know where I live

790
00:41:28,640 --> 00:41:30,640
Speaker 2: if they get fired, because I feel like that's a

791
00:41:30,680 --> 00:41:32,480
Speaker 2: fireable offense in my opinion.

792
00:41:32,600 --> 00:41:35,040
Speaker 1: So yeah, and that is the scary part of it,

793
00:41:35,040 --> 00:41:37,239
Speaker 1: because I mean, you had that example, and then I

794
00:41:37,280 --> 00:41:38,920
Speaker 1: want to say, a couple of months ago, I was

795
00:41:38,960 --> 00:41:41,640
Speaker 1: by myself. Of course, I ordered door Dash and then

796
00:41:42,120 --> 00:41:44,520
Speaker 1: the driver's like almost at my house and sends me

797
00:41:44,560 --> 00:41:47,680
Speaker 1: a message and is like I need money for gas.

798
00:41:47,719 --> 00:41:49,920
Speaker 1: Can you leave me cash? And I'm like, dude, what

799
00:41:50,080 --> 00:41:51,600
Speaker 1: the fuck? It's like nighttime.

800
00:41:51,840 --> 00:41:55,919
Speaker 2: That was so inappropriate exactly, It's scary, and You're like, well,

801
00:41:56,400 --> 00:41:58,680
Speaker 2: and your first instinct is like, I'm gonna call door

802
00:41:58,800 --> 00:42:03,000
Speaker 2: Dash and be like, this is absolutely inappropriate that your

803
00:42:03,080 --> 00:42:07,000
Speaker 2: driver is asking me for cash right now for gas. Yeah.

804
00:42:07,080 --> 00:42:10,319
Speaker 1: Then it's like this guy, yeah, almost at my house.

805
00:42:10,360 --> 00:42:13,200
Speaker 1: So I'm like, all right, cool, he already has my address. Now,

806
00:42:13,239 --> 00:42:16,000
Speaker 1: I'm like and you know, because of the podcast and

807
00:42:16,080 --> 00:42:19,359
Speaker 1: just the way my mind immediately is like I'm getting murdered, right,

808
00:42:19,440 --> 00:42:23,160
Speaker 1: So that's automatically where I went. But like, I shouldn't

809
00:42:23,160 --> 00:42:25,319
Speaker 1: have to be scared when I'm just ordering food. I

810
00:42:25,360 --> 00:42:28,200
Speaker 1: actually just saw on like Instagram or something just in

811
00:42:28,280 --> 00:42:32,240
Speaker 1: the last week or two that apparently they've had issues

812
00:42:32,239 --> 00:42:35,040
Speaker 1: with DoorDash drivers sending like Dick picture or something to

813
00:42:35,080 --> 00:42:39,040
Speaker 1: the customers, right, and then people will get a notification

814
00:42:40,000 --> 00:42:43,440
Speaker 1: that'll be like your order was canceled due to inappropriate

815
00:42:43,480 --> 00:42:46,160
Speaker 1: contact by the driver. We will get somebody else to

816
00:42:46,160 --> 00:42:48,920
Speaker 1: pick up your order or something. And then I was like, well,

817
00:42:48,920 --> 00:42:50,600
Speaker 1: what does that message mean? So I went on read

818
00:42:50,640 --> 00:42:52,320
Speaker 1: it and started looking up and people are like, no,

819
00:42:52,480 --> 00:42:54,560
Speaker 1: I've had instances in the past where the driver sent

820
00:42:54,600 --> 00:42:58,000
Speaker 1: me Dick picts or asked me for pictures. But I'm like, okay,

821
00:42:58,040 --> 00:43:00,719
Speaker 1: so they're monitoring the chat for sexual activity, but not

822
00:43:00,840 --> 00:43:02,640
Speaker 1: when the drivers you're asking for money.

823
00:43:03,320 --> 00:43:07,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't. I don't know because and obviously, like

824
00:43:07,960 --> 00:43:10,200
Speaker 2: anyone from door to ash is listening right now, they're

825
00:43:10,239 --> 00:43:13,440
Speaker 2: gonna be like put out a statement we are against that,

826
00:43:13,480 --> 00:43:16,000
Speaker 2: blah blah blah, Like yeah, we understand that. The thing

827
00:43:16,080 --> 00:43:19,080
Speaker 2: is is that nobody wants to tell on any There's

828
00:43:19,160 --> 00:43:22,000
Speaker 2: probably so much shit. I'm curious from you guys if

829
00:43:22,000 --> 00:43:24,440
Speaker 2: you would like to leave us a comment about this,

830
00:43:24,960 --> 00:43:28,120
Speaker 2: because there's probably so much shit that happens that people

831
00:43:28,120 --> 00:43:30,600
Speaker 2: don't report for the same exact reasons that we're talking

832
00:43:30,640 --> 00:43:33,880
Speaker 2: about right now, because we're scared to death of retaliation.

833
00:43:34,120 --> 00:43:38,000
Speaker 2: Like I mean, think about this particular case too, like this,

834
00:43:38,000 --> 00:43:40,239
Speaker 2: this girl's gonna end up going to jail for this,

835
00:43:40,440 --> 00:43:43,000
Speaker 2: I'm sure, but like she's gonna get out and she's

836
00:43:43,040 --> 00:43:43,960
Speaker 2: gonna be angry.

837
00:43:44,239 --> 00:43:44,759
Speaker 1: I'd move.

838
00:43:45,040 --> 00:43:47,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's time to pack up your bags and get

839
00:43:47,719 --> 00:43:48,160
Speaker 2: out of there.

840
00:43:48,760 --> 00:43:51,440
Speaker 1: I mean, I just we could talk about this for hours.

841
00:43:51,440 --> 00:43:54,000
Speaker 1: I just don't understand what the point of doing it was.

842
00:43:54,960 --> 00:43:57,120
Speaker 1: I don't understand and how you thought you weren't gonna

843
00:43:57,120 --> 00:43:59,400
Speaker 1: get caught. I mean, not only did they have a

844
00:43:59,400 --> 00:44:03,560
Speaker 1: doorbell of a doorbell footage, which is like more than

845
00:44:03,640 --> 00:44:06,200
Speaker 1: obvious on somebody's port. You can't really hide those things

846
00:44:06,200 --> 00:44:09,799
Speaker 1: that well. But then in addition to that, they immediately

847
00:44:09,840 --> 00:44:12,319
Speaker 1: tracked her down because you're a driver for a door

848
00:44:12,400 --> 00:44:15,239
Speaker 1: dash and they know who delivered the order. Idiot, what

849
00:44:15,320 --> 00:44:16,040
Speaker 1: were you thinking?

850
00:44:16,680 --> 00:44:17,160
Speaker 2: I don't know.

851
00:44:17,239 --> 00:44:18,720
Speaker 1: And did she do it to other people?

852
00:44:19,400 --> 00:44:20,359
Speaker 2: I'm sure she did.

853
00:44:20,920 --> 00:44:23,920
Speaker 1: This is terrible. Yeah, I wonder if there's gonna be like, oh,

854
00:44:23,960 --> 00:44:26,120
Speaker 1: she tampered with other people's food and they got sick

855
00:44:26,160 --> 00:44:27,680
Speaker 1: and they just were piecing it together.

856
00:44:27,760 --> 00:44:31,480
Speaker 2: Now. Yeah, well I hope, I hope people are paying attention.

857
00:44:31,680 --> 00:44:35,920
Speaker 2: So all right, So, speaking of pepper spray, this is

858
00:44:36,840 --> 00:44:39,080
Speaker 2: this is really gross. But this and this has not

859
00:44:39,160 --> 00:44:42,680
Speaker 2: been like a story that's been reported in any news,

860
00:44:42,680 --> 00:44:44,800
Speaker 2: but I did see this video going viral.

861
00:44:45,440 --> 00:44:48,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, so this backstory is unconfirmed because it was on x,

862
00:44:48,960 --> 00:44:52,160
Speaker 1: which we know is the wild West the Internet. So

863
00:44:52,560 --> 00:44:55,439
Speaker 1: basically they're saying that this guy was causing a scene

864
00:44:55,480 --> 00:44:57,759
Speaker 1: at a bar in Saint Petersburg to the point where

865
00:44:57,800 --> 00:45:00,080
Speaker 1: they had the pepper spray and to get out. So

866
00:45:00,160 --> 00:45:03,320
Speaker 1: then there is a video attached to this post where

867
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Speaker 1: he is on the ground, crouched over and ankles his

868
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Speaker 1: penis up so he could pee on his face to

869
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Speaker 1: allegedly wash his pepper spray off. Would that even work? No?

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Speaker 2: I mean no, I mean listen, Like, like I said,

871
00:45:18,200 --> 00:45:23,239
Speaker 2: pepper spray. I've never had an actual direct contact with

872
00:45:23,280 --> 00:45:25,760
Speaker 2: pepper spray. I've been in the city a couple times

873
00:45:25,800 --> 00:45:29,920
Speaker 2: if they sprayed it blocks away and been like choking

874
00:45:29,960 --> 00:45:32,480
Speaker 2: out over it and couldn't believe that the wind was

875
00:45:32,560 --> 00:45:35,839
Speaker 2: pulling it over my way to the point where it

876
00:45:35,880 --> 00:45:38,880
Speaker 2: gives you that you know, that feeling when you get

877
00:45:39,000 --> 00:45:41,440
Speaker 2: that weird tickle in your throat and you have to

878
00:45:41,520 --> 00:45:42,720
Speaker 2: cough and it makes you cry.

879
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Speaker 1: Oh my god, that's it's.

880
00:45:44,160 --> 00:45:47,799
Speaker 2: Like that, but you can't stop it. It's just so terrible, right,

881
00:45:48,160 --> 00:45:51,680
Speaker 2: And I just can't imagine getting actually sprayed in the

882
00:45:51,719 --> 00:45:55,040
Speaker 2: face with it. So, like I said earlier, it's oil, right,

883
00:45:55,080 --> 00:45:57,600
Speaker 2: So it's just like this oil that's missing all over

884
00:45:57,640 --> 00:46:00,720
Speaker 2: your face. So your first reaction and as a human

885
00:46:00,800 --> 00:46:02,759
Speaker 2: is to grab your face and start trying to like

886
00:46:02,920 --> 00:46:05,799
Speaker 2: rub whatever. But all you're doing is like spreading the

887
00:46:05,840 --> 00:46:08,840
Speaker 2: oil all around, like hot pepper oil all over your face.

888
00:46:09,480 --> 00:46:12,480
Speaker 2: And then like so, really, if if you're in a

889
00:46:12,520 --> 00:46:14,680
Speaker 2: situation where you could go to a hospital or even

890
00:46:14,719 --> 00:46:17,320
Speaker 2: a house. You're supposed to flush your eyes out for

891
00:46:17,880 --> 00:46:22,160
Speaker 2: twenty minutes with either like contact solution or just water

892
00:46:22,280 --> 00:46:25,040
Speaker 2: if you have it or whatever. But there's nothing that's

893
00:46:25,080 --> 00:46:27,880
Speaker 2: really safe to put in your eyes, especially urine. I

894
00:46:27,920 --> 00:46:31,360
Speaker 2: wouldn't I wouldn't say to do. But when you're freaking

895
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Speaker 2: out like that, like that guy was freaking out on

896
00:46:33,480 --> 00:46:37,160
Speaker 2: the sidewalk bent over. Maybe he was just like fit,

897
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Speaker 2: I don't even care, Like I'm just gonna pee on

898
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Speaker 2: my face right now.

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Speaker 1: Well, don't people pee on themselves when they get like

900
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Speaker 1: stung by a jellyfish. Maybe he was coming from that angle,

901
00:46:46,120 --> 00:46:48,520
Speaker 1: I want to say for my experience, but you referenced earlier,

902
00:46:48,520 --> 00:46:50,640
Speaker 1: which was I was cutting long hots with my hands.

903
00:46:50,680 --> 00:46:52,880
Speaker 1: I've cut them a million times. I've never had issues.

904
00:46:53,360 --> 00:46:57,279
Speaker 1: But I cut them, and then hours later my fingertips

905
00:46:57,320 --> 00:46:59,560
Speaker 1: started burning, and I was like, oh, whatever, like I

906
00:46:59,560 --> 00:47:02,640
Speaker 1: did cut those hot peppers and whatever, right, So then

907
00:47:03,239 --> 00:47:05,520
Speaker 1: it was getting more intense, and then I was like,

908
00:47:05,560 --> 00:47:06,920
Speaker 1: you know what, I have to take a shower anyway.

909
00:47:06,960 --> 00:47:08,600
Speaker 1: I'm just gonna get in there right now. Maybe they'll

910
00:47:08,680 --> 00:47:11,480
Speaker 1: make it better. Oh my god, it got one thousand

911
00:47:11,560 --> 00:47:13,560
Speaker 1: times worse in the shower, to the point where I

912
00:47:13,560 --> 00:47:16,600
Speaker 1: had to tell Ricky, you need to go to Walgreens

913
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Speaker 1: give me milk so I could dip my hands in

914
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Speaker 1: them because they're burning so bad. And it looks ridiculous

915
00:47:22,160 --> 00:47:24,480
Speaker 1: because like my hands aren't red or anything, they look normal.

916
00:47:24,520 --> 00:47:27,359
Speaker 1: But I'm like, dude, they hurt so bad. I can't

917
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Speaker 1: even explain it. Like I don't even think I drive

918
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Speaker 1: right now. They hurt so bad. And he came back

919
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Speaker 1: and said, I know it was really bad because in

920
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Speaker 1: the like almost ten years we've been together, you have

921
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Speaker 1: never asked me to do anything for you, no matter

922
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Speaker 1: how sick you've been or anything. You've never asked me

923
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Speaker 1: to go pick anything up for you.

924
00:47:42,960 --> 00:47:46,840
Speaker 2: No, it's it seriously is uncomfortable. And I use peppers

925
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Speaker 2: a lot. I mean, Gabe is like the king of

926
00:47:48,960 --> 00:47:51,840
Speaker 2: his peppers that he really takes pride in that he

927
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Speaker 2: grows in the summer here, so we have an endless

928
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Speaker 2: supply of this summer. He uh, the hot you know,

929
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Speaker 2: red pepper, crushed red peppers, he grew right like thousands

930
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Speaker 2: of them.

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Speaker 1: I have.

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Speaker 2: I have like one of those gallon you know, a

933
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Speaker 2: gallon sized ziploc bag that's filled with hot pepper flakes.

934
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Speaker 1: Well, I haven't been offered any and I could use.

935
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Speaker 2: You only could have them if you eat at my house.

936
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Speaker 2: But I mean we're always you know, dehydrating them and

937
00:48:24,719 --> 00:48:26,720
Speaker 2: crushing them and stuff. And it's just like the stuff

938
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Speaker 2: it's hard to wash off. Even you think that you

939
00:48:29,600 --> 00:48:31,439
Speaker 2: washed it off, but you can't really wash it off.

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Speaker 2: It's like a weird thing.

941
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Speaker 1: That's what I'm saying. And like when I dunked my

942
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Speaker 1: hands in the milk, it went away within two minutes,

943
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Speaker 1: but anything I did was making it so much worse.

944
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Speaker 2: Yeah, And I mean you can't put milk in your

945
00:48:44,400 --> 00:48:46,560
Speaker 2: eyes either. It's it's just like a tech. I don't know.

946
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Speaker 2: I think the guy wasn't thinking about anything. He was

947
00:48:49,200 --> 00:48:52,399
Speaker 2: probably just like I need something wet and I have

948
00:48:52,480 --> 00:48:55,160
Speaker 2: to pee, and it's here, and it's a hose and

949
00:48:55,239 --> 00:48:57,440
Speaker 2: I could direct it right towards my face. It's just

950
00:48:57,520 --> 00:49:01,440
Speaker 2: kind of it's just really gross and it could totally

951
00:49:01,480 --> 00:49:02,640
Speaker 2: be fake. I don't even know.

952
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Speaker 1: Like at this point the video is worth the wats though,

953
00:49:06,000 --> 00:49:09,239
Speaker 1: you're like, what is this guy doing? Okay, let's move

954
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Speaker 1: on to your questions and emails. This first one is

955
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Speaker 1: from Crystal in reference to the chalk. I don't know

956
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Speaker 1: what that means. Who had a seizure and was pronounced

957
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Speaker 1: dead but ended up not being dead. Where we live,

958
00:49:21,280 --> 00:49:24,720
Speaker 1: I'm in Delaware, amts and paramedics respond to a medical complaint.

959
00:49:24,719 --> 00:49:27,880
Speaker 1: The paramedics from the show typically they will not transport

960
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Speaker 1: a patient to the hospital while doing CPR. They don't

961
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Speaker 1: transport until there is some sort of cardiac activity. When

962
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Speaker 1: they have done all they can do without response to treatment,

963
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Speaker 1: they radio into a hospital and talk to a doctor

964
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Speaker 1: who actually pronounces the debt. So the paramedics don't technically

965
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Speaker 1: do it, but a doctor doesn't actually see the patient.

966
00:49:46,719 --> 00:49:50,000
Speaker 1: They pronounce about you guys. Kind of questioning parents who

967
00:49:50,040 --> 00:49:52,839
Speaker 1: let their kids raise dirt bikes. It's no different than

968
00:49:52,840 --> 00:49:55,520
Speaker 1: a parent letting their kids play football or competitive career,

969
00:49:55,640 --> 00:49:58,960
Speaker 1: or horseback riding or even soccer. It's all about finding

970
00:49:59,000 --> 00:50:02,319
Speaker 1: irresponsible organis. I grew up at a dirt bike track

971
00:50:02,360 --> 00:50:04,920
Speaker 1: watching my dad and brother ride. There was always an

972
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Speaker 1: ambulance or two there, and they had flaggers at each jump,

973
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Speaker 1: so if somebody they ran onto the jump and waved

974
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Speaker 1: the appropriate color flag. If there was a yellow flag,

975
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Speaker 1: you slow the hell down, and you don't hit the

976
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Speaker 1: jump with enough speed to get air and you could

977
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Speaker 1: avoid the person bike down. The tracks were maintained constantly

978
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Speaker 1: and well groomed, but it is obviously a huge risk.

979
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Speaker 1: I've met people who got injured and paralyzed waist down

980
00:50:27,160 --> 00:50:30,200
Speaker 1: and they still raced. Some of us are just more unhinged,

981
00:50:30,200 --> 00:50:32,719
Speaker 1: and we wouldn't change it. And like y'all said, it

982
00:50:32,760 --> 00:50:36,240
Speaker 1: typically does get passed from parent to kid. Maybe it's irresponsible,

983
00:50:36,440 --> 00:50:38,560
Speaker 1: but so as letting your kid jump on a trampoline

984
00:50:38,640 --> 00:50:41,799
Speaker 1: or going swimming or playing baseball. Anything fun comes with

985
00:50:41,800 --> 00:50:42,200
Speaker 1: a risk.

986
00:50:43,800 --> 00:50:48,680
Speaker 2: Okay, I don't know, Like I do understand what you're saying,

987
00:50:48,719 --> 00:50:51,480
Speaker 2: because you can get hurt doing the dumbest stuff. But

988
00:50:51,680 --> 00:50:55,640
Speaker 2: like I personally feel if there's an activity that there

989
00:50:55,640 --> 00:50:58,360
Speaker 2: has to be an ambulance present because it's that bad.

990
00:50:58,520 --> 00:51:02,719
Speaker 2: Like maybe I don't know, it just makes me and

991
00:51:02,760 --> 00:51:04,959
Speaker 2: I don't listen. Like if it's adults, like I don't

992
00:51:04,960 --> 00:51:07,560
Speaker 2: give a shit. It's just like with kids, because kids

993
00:51:07,600 --> 00:51:10,040
Speaker 2: obviously want to do things that are fun, but I

994
00:51:10,040 --> 00:51:14,320
Speaker 2: feel like the adults should be like, maybe you shouldn't

995
00:51:14,360 --> 00:51:17,239
Speaker 2: do that because you could get They don't really understand

996
00:51:17,280 --> 00:51:20,560
Speaker 2: that they could almost die or if they get paralyzed,

997
00:51:20,600 --> 00:51:22,840
Speaker 2: Like that's a terrible thing to kind of induce on

998
00:51:22,880 --> 00:51:25,799
Speaker 2: a person too, to be paralyzed for the rest of

999
00:51:25,800 --> 00:51:28,800
Speaker 2: their life just from like doing something like that. I

1000
00:51:28,840 --> 00:51:32,080
Speaker 2: don't know, but thank you for that sharing that about

1001
00:51:32,120 --> 00:51:36,879
Speaker 2: the paramedic situation. And I'm sure that that varies from

1002
00:51:37,000 --> 00:51:39,640
Speaker 2: state to state and even within states as well as

1003
00:51:39,680 --> 00:51:42,040
Speaker 2: far as what their procedure is. But I remember we

1004
00:51:42,040 --> 00:51:46,160
Speaker 2: were talking about a case last week. Remember we were saying, like,

1005
00:51:46,400 --> 00:51:50,200
Speaker 2: we don't know what happens if a person is is dead,

1006
00:51:50,400 --> 00:51:53,440
Speaker 2: like if the paramedics are allowed to pronounce them or not.

1007
00:51:53,560 --> 00:51:56,560
Speaker 2: So I see how they're getting around it by having

1008
00:51:57,280 --> 00:52:00,720
Speaker 2: they'll call a physician and say, you know, we this person,

1009
00:52:00,800 --> 00:52:05,440
Speaker 2: this is their vitals or lack thereof, and then they say, okay,

1010
00:52:05,520 --> 00:52:07,719
Speaker 2: you could you checked all the boxes and we could

1011
00:52:07,719 --> 00:52:13,120
Speaker 2: pronounce them dead. It was the person that was the

1012
00:52:13,200 --> 00:52:15,560
Speaker 2: bomb who was found the mom who was found alive

1013
00:52:15,600 --> 00:52:16,800
Speaker 2: in the Morghia.

1014
00:52:17,120 --> 00:52:20,480
Speaker 1: All right. This next one's from anonymous. Hi, Nicole and Maria.

1015
00:52:20,480 --> 00:52:22,640
Speaker 1: I'm a huge fan and longtime member of the Grosser Room.

1016
00:52:22,840 --> 00:52:23,120
Speaker 1: Thank you.

1017
00:52:23,320 --> 00:52:23,680
Speaker 2: Thanks.

1018
00:52:24,320 --> 00:52:27,040
Speaker 1: I wanted to comment on Nicole's traumatic experience of going

1019
00:52:27,040 --> 00:52:29,799
Speaker 1: into help syndrome. Nicole, I'm so incredibly sorry for what

1020
00:52:29,840 --> 00:52:31,360
Speaker 1: you went through. I know I speak for all of

1021
00:52:31,440 --> 00:52:33,440
Speaker 1: us when I say we're glad you're still with us,

1022
00:52:33,520 --> 00:52:37,320
Speaker 1: because you were so fucking lucky. Your story unfortunately reminded

1023
00:52:37,320 --> 00:52:39,200
Speaker 1: me of a nurse I worked with that passed away

1024
00:52:39,200 --> 00:52:42,040
Speaker 1: from help. I'm a former Llend nurse and was working

1025
00:52:42,080 --> 00:52:44,200
Speaker 1: the day she was in labor, but thankfully wasn't there

1026
00:52:44,239 --> 00:52:47,719
Speaker 1: when everything happened. My coworkers failed to recognize it, even

1027
00:52:47,760 --> 00:52:50,960
Speaker 1: though her husband, an orthopedic surgeon, did the OBI and

1028
00:52:51,080 --> 00:52:53,920
Speaker 1: nurses taking care of her were friends with the couple.

1029
00:52:54,160 --> 00:52:56,920
Speaker 1: They basically cut corners and treated her differently since she

1030
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Speaker 1: was considered a local vip aka, one of us. I'm

1031
00:53:00,560 --> 00:53:02,840
Speaker 1: still a nurse at that hospital, so it really bothers

1032
00:53:02,840 --> 00:53:05,440
Speaker 1: me when I see people deviating from the norm just

1033
00:53:05,520 --> 00:53:08,520
Speaker 1: because of who the patient is. This is where things

1034
00:53:08,560 --> 00:53:11,040
Speaker 1: like this happen. I'm not sure what the status of

1035
00:53:11,080 --> 00:53:13,160
Speaker 1: the lawsuit is, but the obie still works at the

1036
00:53:13,160 --> 00:53:16,200
Speaker 1: hospital and is notorious for talking about his patients behind

1037
00:53:16,200 --> 00:53:19,359
Speaker 1: their backs. He wasn't disciplined by the medical board, so

1038
00:53:19,400 --> 00:53:22,839
Speaker 1: I guess all's well for him. Asshole Anyway, love the show.

1039
00:53:22,920 --> 00:53:25,239
Speaker 1: Thank you for everything you guys do. You make the

1040
00:53:25,320 --> 00:53:27,000
Speaker 1: drives to and from work so damn enjoyable.

1041
00:53:27,040 --> 00:53:27,360
Speaker 2: Maria.

1042
00:53:27,400 --> 00:53:29,279
Speaker 1: I hope I didn't scare you best in life with

1043
00:53:29,360 --> 00:53:33,880
Speaker 1: the pregnancy. I'm scared by everything, so it's fine.

1044
00:53:34,160 --> 00:53:36,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, and you you just so happened to have a

1045
00:53:36,560 --> 00:53:38,680
Speaker 2: job where you just have to hear all about the

1046
00:53:38,719 --> 00:53:42,440
Speaker 2: horrible stuff. But yeah, thanks for sharing that, and thank

1047
00:53:42,480 --> 00:53:45,160
Speaker 2: you for saying that you're sorry I went through that,

1048
00:53:45,280 --> 00:53:47,440
Speaker 2: because that's more of an apology than I got from

1049
00:53:47,480 --> 00:53:51,480
Speaker 2: the actual hospital that almost killed me. But yeah, I

1050
00:53:51,480 --> 00:53:54,000
Speaker 2: mean I hate hearing this. And like you said, like

1051
00:53:54,040 --> 00:53:57,319
Speaker 2: the whole VIP thing is a real thing, and we've

1052
00:53:57,800 --> 00:53:59,960
Speaker 2: I always talk about that when it has you know,

1053
00:54:00,000 --> 00:54:02,960
Speaker 2: so they would it would happen in the hospital, Like

1054
00:54:03,040 --> 00:54:05,719
Speaker 2: sometimes one of the pathologists would come up to us

1055
00:54:05,760 --> 00:54:09,160
Speaker 2: and be like, we have a VIP specimen coming down today,

1056
00:54:09,200 --> 00:54:11,200
Speaker 2: so make sure you do this and do that, And

1057
00:54:11,239 --> 00:54:13,560
Speaker 2: it's just like, no, why don't we just treat it

1058
00:54:13,600 --> 00:54:15,680
Speaker 2: like we do every other one, because there's gonna be

1059
00:54:15,760 --> 00:54:17,680
Speaker 2: less of a chance of us screwing up, because when

1060
00:54:17,719 --> 00:54:21,200
Speaker 2: you start messing with the procedure of how you're supposed

1061
00:54:21,200 --> 00:54:24,680
Speaker 2: to do things. That's when mistakes could get made. Oh, totally,

1062
00:54:24,719 --> 00:54:28,720
Speaker 2: and it's and it's terrible that that was the case

1063
00:54:28,800 --> 00:54:31,800
Speaker 2: for that one woman who her her husband was a

1064
00:54:31,840 --> 00:54:36,760
Speaker 2: doctor and even recognized it. But unfortunately, once things start happening,

1065
00:54:36,840 --> 00:54:39,400
Speaker 2: sometimes it's hard to get them to stop happening and

1066
00:54:39,440 --> 00:54:40,839
Speaker 2: a person can die from it.

1067
00:54:41,360 --> 00:54:45,200
Speaker 1: Totally. All right, last nse for Michelle, Hei, Nikole and Maria.

1068
00:54:45,239 --> 00:54:47,040
Speaker 1: I love your show. I stumbled upon it because I

1069
00:54:47,080 --> 00:54:49,120
Speaker 1: listened to Z one hundred and I'm so glad I did.

1070
00:54:49,239 --> 00:54:51,520
Speaker 1: Everything you talk about is so interesting. And congrats on

1071
00:54:51,560 --> 00:54:55,240
Speaker 1: the pregnancy, Maria, so happy for you. Thank you. Anyway.

1072
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Speaker 1: On the somber second, there was an incident with a

1073
00:54:57,239 --> 00:54:59,239
Speaker 1: man who lived down the street from my house. A

1074
00:54:59,320 --> 00:55:01,239
Speaker 1: Marshall went to his house to a victim and his

1075
00:55:01,280 --> 00:55:03,719
Speaker 1: wife who were behind on their mortgage for quite a

1076
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Speaker 1: few years. He ended up pushing his wife out the

1077
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Speaker 1: door and having a stand off with police for a

1078
00:55:08,320 --> 00:55:10,839
Speaker 1: good part of the day. Our street was blocked off

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Speaker 1: and they wouldn't let anyone down it. Unfortunately, after shots

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Speaker 1: back and forth with police, he took his own life.

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Speaker 1: The house was booby trapped and a dead body was

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Speaker 1: found in the house. The body was handcuffed and I

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00:55:21,200 --> 00:55:24,120
Speaker 1: think wrapped in plastic. My question is, and sorry for

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Speaker 1: such a long intro, The report is that the body

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Speaker 1: was mummified. If this is the case, how long would

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Speaker 1: the body have had to be there? What kind of

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00:55:32,000 --> 00:55:35,160
Speaker 1: conditions caused the body to mummify instead of decay. I

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00:55:35,239 --> 00:55:37,480
Speaker 1: have heard the body was there since October, but do

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Speaker 1: you think that's accurate. Thanks so much for all the

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Speaker 1: podcast episodes. Love listening to the stories and the family

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Speaker 1: Dynamic and your family stories.

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Speaker 2: Ah thanks thanks so Normally, when a person decomposes, bacteria

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00:55:52,480 --> 00:55:55,680
Speaker 2: that is inside of the GI track starts to multiply

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00:55:56,000 --> 00:55:58,480
Speaker 2: and that is what helps break down the body or

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00:55:58,520 --> 00:56:04,279
Speaker 2: decompose the body. Further that with having access to insects

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00:56:04,360 --> 00:56:07,520
Speaker 2: like flies landing on the body, which then lay eggs

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00:56:07,520 --> 00:56:11,040
Speaker 2: which then have Maggot's form and start to eat the

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00:56:11,080 --> 00:56:15,280
Speaker 2: tissue and break down the tissue. All of that needs

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00:56:15,320 --> 00:56:19,719
Speaker 2: to be in an environment that is moist and has

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Speaker 2: moisture because the bacteria needs that to grow. They needed

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00:56:24,880 --> 00:56:29,080
Speaker 2: to multiply, they needed to be moist, So if they're

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00:56:29,120 --> 00:56:33,560
Speaker 2: in any kind of environment, where it is dry and

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00:56:34,520 --> 00:56:37,959
Speaker 2: the body is able to dry out as well as

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00:56:38,239 --> 00:56:41,319
Speaker 2: being sealed off, meaning they're in a room that there's

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00:56:41,400 --> 00:56:44,120
Speaker 2: no way that critters can get in to start trying

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00:56:44,120 --> 00:56:46,960
Speaker 2: to break down the body. That's when you have the

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Speaker 2: highest chance of mummification. So it could increase more like

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Speaker 2: if it was an elderly person, like one of those

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Speaker 2: really skinny old people that barely has any fat on

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Speaker 2: their body. The less fat, the more likely it is

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00:57:00,680 --> 00:57:04,440
Speaker 2: to happen. If they're wearing tight clothes, that could also

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Speaker 2: cause it to happen. So I mean when we talk

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Speaker 2: about mummies, like most people think about Egyptian mummies, right,

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Speaker 2: and they tried to make the process happen naturally, but

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Speaker 2: like what unnaturally, I guess you would say they tried

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Speaker 2: to speed it up instead of having it happen naturally

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Speaker 2: just by laying out or something. But it could happen

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Speaker 2: naturally too to people. So sometimes in some cases that

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Speaker 2: we've covered in the gross room, where people are intentionally

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Speaker 2: trying to mummify people, which happens often. There was that

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Speaker 2: one case with that weird rushing guy that was turning

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00:57:40,920 --> 00:57:45,000
Speaker 2: children into mummies and like sticking them inside of dolls.

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Speaker 2: That was an insane case. There's other cases of people

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Speaker 2: trying to preserve their loved ones because they're still trying

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Speaker 2: to collect their pension checks and stuff like that. And

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Speaker 2: then there was that one case of was Earning Amy

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Speaker 2: Caral Sinners.

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Speaker 1: Yeah the Love has one cult leader.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so she was also mummified. So sometimes people that

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Speaker 2: are intentionally trying to mummify people, like the Egyptians did too,

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Speaker 2: they'll put something on to try to dry out the

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Speaker 2: body even more, like salt or something like that. We

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Speaker 2: had a case in the grocrom actually of a guy

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Speaker 2: who was collecting money from his dead family member and

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Speaker 2: was putting table salt on her body to dry her out.

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Speaker 1: Well, then we have the episode with Paul too, where

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Speaker 1: some cultures just do that.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, in a non.

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Speaker 1: Nefarious way, So definitely check out.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. So and like listen, that's possible in your case

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00:58:40,160 --> 00:58:45,240
Speaker 2: that that happened as well, But just in certain situations,

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00:58:45,560 --> 00:58:48,280
Speaker 2: it could just happen without really even having to try,

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00:58:48,360 --> 00:58:51,880
Speaker 2: and it could happen quickly depending it just depends on

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Speaker 2: what the environment was that the that the body was in.

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Speaker 1: Well, thank you for sharing that story. I mean that's

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Speaker 1: super scary that that happens close to your house. Of course,

1147
00:59:00,400 --> 00:59:03,480
Speaker 1: all the details were super weird, so and you're like, cool,

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00:59:03,560 --> 00:59:06,440
Speaker 1: these weirdos. I've been living down the street from me

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Speaker 1: this whole time. That's great.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, everyone has those in their neighborhood.

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00:59:10,440 --> 00:59:10,560
Speaker 1: Though.

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00:59:10,600 --> 00:59:12,400
Speaker 2: You drive by their house and you're like, yeah, there's

1153
00:59:12,440 --> 00:59:13,840
Speaker 2: definitely a dead body in there.

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Speaker 2: See you, guys, thank you for listening to Mother Knows Death.

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Speaker 2: As a reminder, my training is as a pathologists assistant.

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Speaker 2: I have a master's level education and specialize in anatomy

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