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Speaker 2: Oh yes, back at it on another Sunday evening and

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Speaker 2: a little bit further removed from whatever you were feeling

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Speaker 2: at the end of the NFL season, whether it was

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Speaker 2: pain because your team lost or pain just because no

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Speaker 2: more football. But it's gonna help us get a little

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Speaker 3: Mister Kerry Rhoades, how are we doing?

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Speaker 4: Mark doing well?

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Speaker 2: Man?

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Speaker 4: It's becoming a thing now, huh Me and Mark.

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Speaker 2: I'm not mad at it, not even not even a

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Speaker 2: little bit. So uh yeah, let's rack it up and

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Speaker 2: do it again. And let me start off with a

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Speaker 2: question for you. Samsung Galaxy Mobile. You consider that like

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Speaker 2: a successful product in American business? Yeah?

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Speaker 4: I say yeah, because there people need it.

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Speaker 2: Are you an iPhone guy?

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Speaker 4: I'm an iPhone guy?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, so I'm iPhone guy too, But when you

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Speaker 2: look at Samsung Galaxy Mobile, are you like, I don't know,

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Speaker 2: is the CEO of that company doing okay? Yeah, I

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Speaker 2: think the CEO is doing okay. Okay. Here's here's why

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Speaker 2: I am. We we've we've sort of reached this little spot.

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Speaker 2: And I get why because in sports, we don't like

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Speaker 2: to have that loser mentality. Nobody gets orange slices and

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Speaker 2: Caprice suns at the end of the game.

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Speaker 3: We just there's one winner. Yes, there's one winner, but.

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Speaker 2: I don't think it necessarily has to be looked at

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Speaker 2: that in the big picture. The small picture, sure, there's

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Speaker 2: one winner at the end, but in the big picture,

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Speaker 2: I would argue that more than one franchise in the

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Speaker 2: NFL is doing a good job. Like there's a successful

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Speaker 2: franchise and you've got good players, and you've got a

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Speaker 2: good plan and you have things going so now that

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Speaker 2: I think a really good night to sit here and

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Speaker 2: talk this out, because we're moving further away two weeks

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Speaker 2: now from the emotion of the Super Bowl, and that's

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Speaker 2: when people either like they're all just kind of riled

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Speaker 2: up because of the way things played out, or they're

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Speaker 2: working on their hot takes, like our good friend Rob Parker,

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Speaker 2: who we started the show with last week because he

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Speaker 2: wants Kyle Shanahan fired, good for you.

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Speaker 3: All that stuff.

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Speaker 2: So it's move away from the emotion of all of

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Speaker 2: it and help me with this. Is it really just

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Speaker 2: Patrick Mahomes or bust? Because that's kind of the vibe

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Speaker 2: I get from a lot of people. Now. I have

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Speaker 2: no problem with him being the standard, ye, but for me,

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Speaker 2: it's kind of like a Reese's Peanut butter cup commercial.

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Speaker 2: You remember that ad campaign where they're like, there's more

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Speaker 2: than one way to eat the Reese's.

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Speaker 3: Yes, I think there's more.

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Speaker 2: Than one way to win a Super Bowl. And we've

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Speaker 2: reached a spot where I feel, and honestly look around

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Speaker 2: the league, there's Mahomes and then criticism, right, that's all right,

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Speaker 2: And I just like, I don't think we can do

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Speaker 2: it that way. Carrie. Yeah, and you hit it.

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Speaker 5: You hit it on the head there, I mean, And

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Speaker 5: you can take it as far as what you just

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Speaker 5: said with Patrick Mahomes, right, the criticism that he does

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Speaker 5: that he had during the season was pretty much nonexistent,

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Speaker 5: and you know, he got to a point where they

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Speaker 5: best player in football, which he is, But there are

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Speaker 5: other good players in the league that have those same

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Speaker 5: type of numbers, play well, and once they have any

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Speaker 5: mistakes or they have an off week, it's magnified, right.

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Speaker 5: But around Patrick Mahomes, it's everybody else around them failed him, right,

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Speaker 5: And so I think that's the narrative that we're taking.

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Speaker 5: I guess in the sports world, the sports take world, right,

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Speaker 5: that's he is the standard. But you're right, there are

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Speaker 5: other ways to win. And we've seen that, right, I mean,

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Speaker 5: the best player who people referred to as the goat

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Speaker 4: You know, he didn't win it every year, did he.

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Speaker 5: So that means somebody else had to do something right

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Speaker 5: with you on this take. I don't think it is

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Speaker 4: But yes, there are other ways to win.

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Speaker 2: Are you a QB rating guy? Node it do it

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Speaker 2: for you? No?

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Speaker 4: I don't even know what it means to be honest.

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Speaker 2: And well, that's that's a great point.

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Speaker 3: That's a great point, Like you know what I mean.

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Speaker 2: Like if you had gun to head and we just

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Speaker 2: walked through town, right and we're like, explain QB rating,

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Speaker 2: we'd all be dead right. I'd like, I don't know

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Speaker 2: how the hell you get to that number. It's supposed

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Speaker 2: to tell me who's playing well, right, And I get it,

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Speaker 3: I think there is some intuitiveness too.

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Speaker 2: If you throw for a lot of yards and you

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Speaker 2: got more touchdowns than picks, then your numbers usually pretty good.

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Speaker 2: If it's the other way around, it's not, I understand that.

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Speaker 2: But I don't know. I guess I wonder. You know,

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Speaker 2: some of us go at it like it's gospel, and

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Speaker 2: some of us ignore it completely.

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Speaker 3: But I'm just curious because I do.

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Speaker 2: Look, what a fascinating year for us to walk away

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Speaker 2: with this Patrick Mahomes narrative. He's now the goat. I

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Speaker 2: hear that all the time, right, he is on track

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Speaker 2: to beat Brady. You have to find someone like him

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Speaker 2: if you'd like to compete in today's NFL, and quite frankly, hell,

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Speaker 2: if you're in the AFC West. You ought to just

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Speaker 2: give up now because that's the way it's going to

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Speaker 2: be for the next seven years. I hear all of that,

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Speaker 2: But here's another fact that I don't hear anyone talking

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Speaker 2: And I did not walk out of the super Bowl. Again,

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Speaker 2: I'm getting away from the emotion. I did not walk

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Speaker 2: away from the super Bowl thinking, well, that's why they won,

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Speaker 2: because the Niners just got Mahomes all over the place, right.

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Speaker 2: I get he had the ball in his hands at

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Speaker 2: Then again, that overtime drive was well, that was the

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Speaker 2: And I could give you names like Baker Mayfield and

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Speaker 3: A higher rating this year than Patrick Mahomes.

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Speaker 5: Yes, oh, and you'd be accurate by saying that. And

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Speaker 5: we've seen it. We saw this, we saw this season.

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Speaker 5: I mean there was points in this year where I

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Speaker 5: mean I'm sure. I mean, besides myself, I didn't think

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Speaker 5: they would be effective in this I mean they neither, right, So,

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Speaker 5: I mean they found a way to win, and a

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Speaker 5: in the way they played this year, and so you

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Speaker 5: know the fact that they're I mean we I think

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Speaker 5: the people that saw it and understand football understand that.

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Speaker 5: But again, what's the hot take, What's the thing that's

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Speaker 5: in that in that narrative, I mean, it's gonna be

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Speaker 5: the sexiness of the quarterback position in the name that

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Speaker 2: I look around at the league and I wouldn't be

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Speaker 2: the least bit surprised if Joe Burrow won a Super Bowl,

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Speaker 2: surprised to hear that in the next five years. CJ.

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Speaker 3: Stroud is a Super Bowl champion.

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Speaker 2: Would not sup me if the Lions busted through behind

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Speaker 2: let me give you one more name that I'm very,

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Speaker 2: very curious now to see because it is tucked right

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Speaker 2: And I'm pretty optimistic, at least in the short term.

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Speaker 2: Jim wears everybody out, so I'm not optimistic seven years

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Speaker 5: Yeah, all those names, all those guys have a chance.

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Speaker 4: It's you know, he won those three early.

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Speaker 5: There was a gap in there almost ten years, right,

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Speaker 5: So obviously there's gonna be guys that are gonna have

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Speaker 5: we're just throw it out the window. But if he

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Speaker 5: doesn't proves us wrong, then that's a whole different discussion discussion.

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Speaker 5: But I just don't see that happening.

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Speaker 3: I mean, listen, I know it's impossible to do this.

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Speaker 2: I'm not sitting here tonight trying to take anything away

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Speaker 2: from the guys. The face of the league. He's the

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Speaker 2: best player. All of this stuff is it is beyond

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Speaker 2: I'm actually sort of I'm bringing this up for a

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Speaker 2: I know sometimes it's hard with sports like baseball, you

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Speaker 2: know where show hey o Tani and Mike Trout have like,

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Speaker 2: But even go to basketball, where you know, from the

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Speaker 2: the best player wins a lot, but not automatically. And

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Speaker 2: I feel like we're in a spot where we're bordering

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Speaker 2: on potential. We'll see what teams do potential impatience, unnecessary

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Speaker 2: impatience because fan bases are gonna demand.

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Speaker 3: Well you want it. You gotta fight fire with fire,

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Speaker 3: So you.

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Speaker 2: Know, sorry Josh Allen not good enough, Sorry Niners, fire

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Speaker 2: Like where are we gonna go? And I'm not saying

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Speaker 2: we're bordering on the potential impatience of trying to find

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Speaker 2: the next Mahomes because you're not gonna find it number

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Speaker 2: these other guys. Man, they're good enough. They're good enough. God,

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Speaker 2: every one of these games was razor close.

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Speaker 5: Yes, And that's the thing right there. Mark, It's like

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Speaker 5: you say, you're chasing you're chasing ghosts, right If you're

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Speaker 5: trying to be the next Patrick Mahomes or get that

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Speaker 5: guy to elevate your team to win, how about as

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Speaker 2: Good evening to you wherever you're bringing us in on

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Speaker 5: Would see underneath the ESPN ticker the tracker, these random

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Speaker 5: contract numbers pop up, and I was like, man, I

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Speaker 5: hope I was literally like, I hope mine doesn't because

436
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Speaker 5: I didn't want I didn't want people to know what

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Speaker 5: was in my pocket number one. But I didn't want

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Speaker 5: these new associates or new people that or old people

439
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Speaker 5: that were in your life at some point to creep

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Speaker 5: back in the window and hey, Bud, remember me from No,

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Speaker 5: I don't I don't, right, So you know that conversation.

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Speaker 4: So it's it's it's a hard thing.

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Speaker 5: And you're right, if they could, if we could keep

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Speaker 5: those numbers hidden and people didn't know and just actually

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Speaker 5: watched the product on the field or watch the coach

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Speaker 5: do what he does, would that be quantifiable in the

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Speaker 5: same discuss.

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Speaker 2: Maybe not. I don't know, man, it shades a lot

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Speaker 2: of opinions in ways that you know, I just don't

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Speaker 2: I don't know how relevant it ends up being. We're

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Speaker 2: watching the Warriors play the Nuggets on National TV right

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Speaker 2: now as we speak. Klay Thompson's having a big night.

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Speaker 2: This has been that's another center stage idea, Like they've

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Speaker 2: moved him to the bench, He's going to be their

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Speaker 2: sixth man. Yeah, maybe for the rest of the year.

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Speaker 2: He's making forty three million dollars, And there's been all

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Speaker 2: of this kind of pent up anger about Clay Tom

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Speaker 2: saying and late in the career and coming off the

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Speaker 2: injuries and he's gunning too much and all of these opinions,

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Speaker 2: and I'm like, what would your opinion be if he

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Speaker 2: was only making fifteen would you want him on your team? Like? Yeah, probably,

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Speaker 2: I mean definitely, Actually he just had twenty three point first.

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Speaker 3: Half off the bench.

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Speaker 4: He's been off the bench, yeah.

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Speaker 3: Tonight, you know, but to two games ago he scored three.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, three point, and you know, so it's like I

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Speaker 2: just I don't know. I wonder about that sometimes, like

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Speaker 2: I try to make sure, you know, don't let and

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Speaker 2: if your opinion is solely about the money, then okay,

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Speaker 2: but don't let that totally crater your idea of value.

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Speaker 2: But especially when it's a coach who's got nothing, I mean,

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Speaker 2: what are we worried about the Warriors owners? No, is

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Speaker 2: that what we're worried about, Like, oh god, there's spending

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Speaker 2: too much.

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Speaker 4: There's no way to worry about that.

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Speaker 5: Mark They're just they're worried about them not having it,

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Speaker 5: or it's just it's one of those things.

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Speaker 4: I guess it's conversation.

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Speaker 5: It's Sunday Sunday fodder, right, we're talking about it right now.

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Speaker 5: But also it's one of those things where again it's

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Speaker 5: it seems I guess unimaginable for you know, Joe Blow

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Speaker 5: or Tim to be on this couch making that type

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Speaker 5: of money, and it's just unimaginable. But I guess for

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Speaker 5: the dreamer, it would be imaginable, right, Like, if I

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Speaker 5: saw that me myself personally, as a dreamer, I am

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Speaker 5: that guy. If there was something that I could do

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Speaker 5: to generate that type of income, it would motivate me.

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Speaker 5: It wouldn't have me in the place of saying that

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Speaker 5: person doesn't deserve it. And I think that's where the

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Speaker 5: narrative needs to shift.

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Speaker 2: Speaking of big salaries, Steve de Sager, everybody, well, let's

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Speaker 2: find out what's trending. I know exactly, I know exactly

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Speaker 2: what he makes, and I need.

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Speaker 4: To call it out.

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Speaker 2: Mark. I think we need very, very undervalue. This is

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Speaker 2: this is a bang for your buck type of a

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Speaker 2: situation that we're about to hear.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, there's not a lot in the cash department, but

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Speaker 8: there is occasional pizza, so.

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Speaker 3: And it's all deferred. But yes, it's after the show

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Speaker 3: cold pizza.

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Speaker 8: That's that qualifies. By the way, your conversation about this

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Speaker 8: with the salaries does kind of smack of the Brock

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Speaker 8: Party conversation because most of the conversation about him just

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Speaker 8: has to do with expectations, not talent or winning on

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Speaker 8: the field. It's like, oh, he was drafted here, therefore, well,

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Speaker 8: you know what if he was drafted second or third

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Speaker 8: round higher than Dak Prescott, I think a lot of

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Speaker 8: that conversation will be out the window. But Damian Lillard,

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Speaker 8: you brought up the Klay Thompson deal. Damian Lillard makes

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Speaker 8: about a half million dollars per game and doesn't play

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Speaker 8: every game for it hasn't for five years, So it's

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Speaker 8: an enormous amount of moment. Garrett Cole is a sensational

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Speaker 8: pitcher for the Yankees, and that was the expectation. He

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Speaker 8: has met all expectations and for all we know, already

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Speaker 8: getting about a million dollars per game. He could opt

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Speaker 8: out after this year it get even more. It's just

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Speaker 8: you know, Patrick Mahomes, who you talked about, that's two

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Speaker 8: or three mili game with this new contract, is it not.

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Speaker 8: It's just silly. Well, let's get to said Golden State Warriors,

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Speaker 8: shall we, Because they've fallen behind by ten at home

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Speaker 8: to the Denver Nuggets. Nuggets seventy five sixty five, seven

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Speaker 8: and a half minutes to go in the third quarter.

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Speaker 8: Klay Thompson in fifteen minutes off the bench with twenty

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Speaker 8: three points in this game. The news from Atlanta that

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Speaker 8: Trey Young will have left hand surgery on Tuesday and

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Speaker 8: miss at least four weeks due to a torn ligament

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Speaker 8: in a finger. Paulo Benko, the Magic is out tonight

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Speaker 8: for Rest. He had the game winning three point play

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Speaker 8: last night. Orlando is at Atlanta and leading the Hawks

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Speaker 8: by two late third quarter sixty nine sixty seven. Magic

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Speaker 8: also underway. Utah, which is lost five in a row,

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Speaker 8: gets to host San Antonio. That's late first quarter, thirty

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Speaker 8: to fifteen for the Jazz. Already a San Antonio loss

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Speaker 8: would put their record at eleven and forty seven. You

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Speaker 8: mentioned Charlotte, which he wouldn't. Lion scored twenty nine points

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Speaker 8: in the first half of an NBA game on Friday night,

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Speaker 8: and I think they had one four straight going in,

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Speaker 8: which is the amazing thing I did. Charlotte only fourteen

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Speaker 8: and forty two on the season. They're at Portland, which

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Speaker 8: only has fifteen wins. Beac Portland has lost seven in

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Speaker 8: a row. That's one of the late games. It starts

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Speaker 8: in a half an hour. The late game an hour

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Speaker 8: away in LA. The Clippers are hosting Sacramento in progress

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Speaker 8: Houston Rockets mid third quarter ahead of Oklahoma City seventy

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Speaker 8: three to sixty seven despite twenty two points from Shay

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Speaker 8: Gilgis Alexander added as Pelicans ahead late third quarter against

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Speaker 8: Chicago seventy seven to sixty eight. By the way, five

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Speaker 8: players from New Orleans and Miami were suspended for Friday's fight.

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Speaker 8: Jimmy Butler gets a one game suspension. C J McCollum

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Speaker 8: of the Pelicans out tonight with his sprained ankle. In

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Speaker 8: college hoops top ten wins for Purdue and Marquette, Saint

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Speaker 8: John's beat number fifteen Creyton eighty sixty six Ohio State

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Speaker 8: on a last second three point or one at Michigan

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Speaker 8: State sixty to fifty seven to the NHL Pittsburgh a

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Speaker 8: seven to six winner over Philadelphia, and currently it's the

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Speaker 8: Hurricanes in overtime tied to two at Buffalo. Daniel Suarez

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Speaker 8: one the NASCAR race at Atlanta in a photo finish

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Speaker 8: just head of Ryan Blaney and Kyle Busch. The NFL

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Speaker 8: scouting combine starts money. And while we're talking money, why

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Speaker 8: don't I just bring up something we spoke about on

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Speaker 8: previous shows here. Since the NFL did announce that the

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Speaker 8: salary cat is set for the coming season, it is

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Speaker 8: about two hundred and fifty five million dollars per team,

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Speaker 8: up from about two hundred and twenty five mil last year.

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Speaker 8: A decade ago, by the way, the cap was under

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Speaker 8: one hundred fifty mil per team. Total player cost, just

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Speaker 8: the player portion of what a franchise has to spend

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Speaker 8: will be about three hundred and thirty million dollars per team.

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Speaker 8: Which I brought up the question so people might think,

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Speaker 8: how do you make money in this league? Just for

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Speaker 8: player section that has nothing to do with the other employer,

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Speaker 8: the travel or the marketing. How do you make money? Well,

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Speaker 8: the Green Bay Packers are publicly owned, thank you. They're

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Speaker 8: owned by shareholders, so we find out their books, but

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Speaker 8: not the other teams. The Packers, as an example, still

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Speaker 8: reported a pure profit of almost seventy million dollars for

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Speaker 8: one year. Revenues of six hundred and ten mil minus

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Speaker 8: the five forty mil in operating expenses equals about seventy

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Speaker 8: million dollars for one year. Yeah, astounding that anybody has

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Speaker 8: ever lost money in this life.

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Speaker 2: Well, dare they give their coach ten million dollars?

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Speaker 3: Remember?

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Speaker 2: Why are ridiculous?

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Speaker 8: You Remember when Joe Gibbs got back into coaching and

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Speaker 8: he had everybody and their brother on his coaching staff.

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Speaker 8: And it was pointed out, you know, there's no salary

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Speaker 8: cap for the coaching staff. And sure enough, you look

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Speaker 8: at the people that Harbaugh for the Chargers staff has.

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Speaker 8: It is a long list of coaches that they have

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Speaker 8: hired who cares no salary cap totally.

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Speaker 4: And why would you care.

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Speaker 5: I just know one thing, I know one thing about

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Speaker 5: all that. Did you just said, Steve, I was born

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Speaker 5: like ten years a little bit early. Yeah, yeah, that's

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Speaker 5: what I.

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Speaker 8: Think every athlete in pro sports will say that every.

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Speaker 3: Decade, Steve.

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Speaker 2: Did you just say that Paolo Benkaro is out for rest?

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Speaker 8: That is that is the actual word that was used.

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Speaker 2: Yes, Okay, so he's twenty one years old. Yeah, he's

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Speaker 2: nowhere near twenty two. And we're just out of the

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Speaker 2: All Star break.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, night game, last night, night game, tonight.

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Speaker 2: Got it?

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Speaker 8: Okay, it's just the norm of the NBA. We don't

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Speaker 8: even bat an eye anymore.

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Speaker 2: Well, I mean if we were going to be offended,

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Speaker 2: you know, then then Lebron James would have offended us

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Speaker 2: by missing a game with an injury then playing in

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Speaker 2: the All Star Game. Yeah, and coming out of the

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Speaker 2: All Star Game and missing the next game with the

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Speaker 2: same injury. And that's what We've reached a point where

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Speaker 2: that doesn't offend us.

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Speaker 3: It's crazy.

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Speaker 8: And against the easier opponent the very next night skip

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Speaker 8: the national TV game Friday.

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Speaker 2: Against Steph Curry. Oh god, I don't get it. But

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Speaker 2: you know, yeah, that's that's what we're doing. That's the

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Speaker 2: world we're in, that's what we're doing. Yeah, thanks, Steve,

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Speaker 2: great stuff. All right, Uh we're live in the ti

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Speaker 2: rack dot com studios. You want me to tell everybody

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Speaker 2: what you made for your for your whole career?

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Speaker 4: Absolutely not okay, absolutely.

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Speaker 2: Because after I tell him, no one's gonna want to

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Speaker 2: hear your Oh I was born too late.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, but he's gonna want to hear.

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Speaker 2: That, Steve.

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Speaker 4: Don't you look it up, Steve. I see Steve. I

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Speaker 4: see Steve's face. He's on it.

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Speaker 2: Track dot Com slash NFL slash, Arizona Dash Cardinals slash,

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Speaker 4: That's a lot of dashes.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, there's a lot of dashes. It goes more so

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Speaker 3: if they do all that.

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Speaker 2: They still won't get it.

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Speaker 3: But uh anyway, uh, yeah, good stuff.

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Speaker 2: I root for other people. So yeah, yeah, I want

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Speaker 2: you to make that chicken. That's that's good, all right. Uh,

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Speaker 2: coming up next, while we're in NBA circles, Uh, there's

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Speaker 2: a there's another player who's really starting to get a

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Speaker 2: national buzz for all of the wrong reasons. And so

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Speaker 2: we'll get to that next coming up with Kerry Roads,

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Speaker 2: Mark Willard, Fox Sports Radio.

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Speaker 1: You're listening to Fox Sports Radio, all right.

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Speaker 2: Win the tie rag dot com Studios with Carrie Rhoads.

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Speaker 3: I'm Mark Wellard. Glad you with us tonight. We'll get

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Speaker 3: to that player.

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Speaker 2: And actually there are a few more of them are starting

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Speaker 2: to really get a buzz for all the wrong reasons.

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Speaker 2: I was just thinking of something else though, as during

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00:33:51,880 --> 00:33:55,480
Speaker 2: that break, we're sitting here watching Nuggets and Warriors, and

653
00:33:55,800 --> 00:34:02,080
Speaker 2: you've got two NBA Champion one ones as we call them,

654
00:34:02,160 --> 00:34:05,720
Speaker 2: right on the floor at the same time. One of

655
00:34:05,760 --> 00:34:09,759
Speaker 2: them is this huge truck of a human being who

656
00:34:09,800 --> 00:34:13,560
Speaker 2: at times looks like he does not even care if

657
00:34:13,600 --> 00:34:20,000
Speaker 2: he ever plays basketball again. The other one is this tiny,

658
00:34:20,239 --> 00:34:24,799
Speaker 2: six foot two wafer of a man who looks like

659
00:34:24,960 --> 00:34:29,759
Speaker 2: he couldn't live without playing basketball every day. And it

660
00:34:29,840 --> 00:34:33,040
Speaker 2: made my brain go back to the conversation we were

661
00:34:33,040 --> 00:34:35,680
Speaker 2: having off the top about how there's more than one

662
00:34:35,680 --> 00:34:39,160
Speaker 2: way to eat a Reese's when it comes to NFL quarterbacks.

663
00:34:39,600 --> 00:34:42,680
Speaker 2: I know that it's hard to compare the NBA and

664
00:34:42,719 --> 00:34:47,520
Speaker 2: the NFL, but sure Mahomes is the best. But I

665
00:34:47,680 --> 00:34:50,680
Speaker 2: just don't think we should start flicking all of the

666
00:34:50,719 --> 00:34:55,920
Speaker 2: other quarterbacks thinking that they're just they're all lesser than

667
00:34:56,000 --> 00:34:59,920
Speaker 2: they're not good enough. Look at how many different body types,

668
00:35:00,560 --> 00:35:05,320
Speaker 2: different styles, different everything. Look around the NBA right now

669
00:35:05,719 --> 00:35:08,560
Speaker 2: and think of all of the guys who've done kind

670
00:35:08,600 --> 00:35:12,040
Speaker 2: of what we ask for, and that is be the

671
00:35:12,040 --> 00:35:13,840
Speaker 2: one and lead your.

672
00:35:13,719 --> 00:35:16,240
Speaker 3: Team to an NBA championship.

673
00:35:16,880 --> 00:35:21,719
Speaker 2: You've got just bohemoth people like Jokic and Yannis who

674
00:35:21,800 --> 00:35:26,080
Speaker 2: do most of their stuff near the rim. You've got Lebron,

675
00:35:26,800 --> 00:35:31,759
Speaker 2: You've got Steph, You've got Kawhi, who is somewhere in

676
00:35:31,800 --> 00:35:35,040
Speaker 2: the middle of all of that. Am I forgetting anybody

677
00:35:35,200 --> 00:35:38,880
Speaker 2: anybody else currently in the NBA who's done that, like

678
00:35:38,960 --> 00:35:42,719
Speaker 2: been a one on an nbah Oh, Durant, Durant, I

679
00:35:42,719 --> 00:35:43,319
Speaker 2: guess you could.

680
00:35:43,400 --> 00:35:45,520
Speaker 3: You could call the one with that warrior group.

681
00:35:46,400 --> 00:35:48,479
Speaker 2: But put that group together and look at that they're

682
00:35:48,520 --> 00:35:53,799
Speaker 2: all completely different. And and I think Patrick is not

683
00:35:54,080 --> 00:35:58,040
Speaker 2: done winning super Bowls. I also think he's not done

684
00:35:58,800 --> 00:36:02,640
Speaker 2: losing in the playoffs. I mean that it's gonna look

685
00:36:02,880 --> 00:36:06,120
Speaker 2: just maybe it will look just like Brady. You're you're

686
00:36:06,120 --> 00:36:08,560
Speaker 2: you're gonna get more. But you're like these other guys,

687
00:36:08,560 --> 00:36:09,560
Speaker 2: they're gonna breakthrough.

688
00:36:10,080 --> 00:36:11,960
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, I'm with you. I think they will.

689
00:36:12,000 --> 00:36:14,239
Speaker 5: I mean we look at the uh we go back

690
00:36:14,280 --> 00:36:16,839
Speaker 5: to the greatest to play that game you just talked

691
00:36:16,840 --> 00:36:20,400
Speaker 5: about the NBA Michael Jordan. Right, it took him a while.

692
00:36:20,840 --> 00:36:22,760
Speaker 5: There were some there were some losses in the playoffs.

693
00:36:22,800 --> 00:36:26,080
Speaker 5: There there were some, you know, some not so brilliant moments.

694
00:36:26,080 --> 00:36:28,520
Speaker 5: But when but when he got his time and his

695
00:36:28,640 --> 00:36:32,120
Speaker 5: chance and things were aligned, like for the Chiefs right now,

696
00:36:32,160 --> 00:36:34,160
Speaker 5: the way that they are aligned, you can be that

697
00:36:34,200 --> 00:36:37,600
Speaker 5: superstar player and still, you know, you still need that

698
00:36:37,680 --> 00:36:41,040
Speaker 5: supporting cast to kind of get you over that hump.

699
00:36:41,120 --> 00:36:41,279
Speaker 2: Right.

700
00:36:41,280 --> 00:36:44,400
Speaker 5: It wasn't until Jordan got Pip Pippin. You know, he

701
00:36:44,480 --> 00:36:47,000
Speaker 5: had Grant and those guys in that first run and

702
00:36:47,040 --> 00:36:49,480
Speaker 5: then that second run he had Rodman and co coach

703
00:36:49,520 --> 00:36:52,720
Speaker 5: and those guys. So the supplementary cast around.

704
00:36:53,520 --> 00:36:54,600
Speaker 4: You know, once.

705
00:36:54,400 --> 00:36:58,040
Speaker 5: That that stud that Jordan, that Patrick Mahomes gets going

706
00:36:58,080 --> 00:37:00,759
Speaker 5: and gets into their groove of being the best at

707
00:37:00,760 --> 00:37:04,200
Speaker 5: what they do, you know, it's still the other ancillary

708
00:37:04,200 --> 00:37:08,000
Speaker 5: parts around that, And so that's I think that's a fact.

709
00:37:08,480 --> 00:37:10,240
Speaker 4: I also think that.

710
00:37:10,120 --> 00:37:12,640
Speaker 5: Even when you know when Jordan, you know, Jordan was

711
00:37:12,680 --> 00:37:15,839
Speaker 5: winning those back to back to back, he did it

712
00:37:15,880 --> 00:37:19,759
Speaker 5: twice during those runs, we can look at that being

713
00:37:19,800 --> 00:37:21,879
Speaker 5: a similar situation as well for Mahomes, right. I mean,

714
00:37:21,960 --> 00:37:24,799
Speaker 5: even though we talked about dynasties in football, and I

715
00:37:24,800 --> 00:37:29,480
Speaker 5: think there's different different I guess criteria surrounding what a

716
00:37:29,600 --> 00:37:33,239
Speaker 5: what a dynasty is in the NFL. But right now

717
00:37:33,360 --> 00:37:35,319
Speaker 5: the Chiefs are currently in the dynasty and they've won

718
00:37:35,440 --> 00:37:38,040
Speaker 5: two of what two of three? Year or yeah? Was

719
00:37:38,080 --> 00:37:41,799
Speaker 5: it two of three? Yes, two of three and three

720
00:37:41,920 --> 00:37:43,640
Speaker 5: three of is it three or four?

721
00:37:43,800 --> 00:37:44,399
Speaker 2: Is it three or four?

722
00:37:45,800 --> 00:37:48,720
Speaker 3: I mean he's been to the Agent Championship all six years.

723
00:37:50,160 --> 00:37:53,080
Speaker 2: It was when and then when Yes, then there was

724
00:37:53,080 --> 00:37:54,799
Speaker 2: a year. Then there was a year that they didn't go.

725
00:37:55,040 --> 00:37:57,320
Speaker 2: That was when the Bengals broke through, and then the

726
00:37:57,400 --> 00:37:59,600
Speaker 2: year before that they lost to the Bucks. A year

727
00:37:59,600 --> 00:38:01,799
Speaker 2: before that they won when they beat the forty nine

728
00:38:01,880 --> 00:38:03,279
Speaker 2: ers at first time. So is it three or five?

729
00:38:03,800 --> 00:38:07,200
Speaker 3: Three or five? I think that's and four and four appearances.

730
00:38:06,719 --> 00:38:07,840
Speaker 2: Got five years, got it?

731
00:38:07,920 --> 00:38:09,960
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's that's that's that's pretty consistent.

732
00:38:10,719 --> 00:38:12,120
Speaker 2: That's okay, you know what I mean?

733
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Speaker 5: And so and so so even in the run that

734
00:38:15,120 --> 00:38:17,000
Speaker 5: he's in, he hasn't won it every year, So you

735
00:38:17,080 --> 00:38:18,680
Speaker 5: can't expect him to win it every year, is what

736
00:38:18,719 --> 00:38:21,800
Speaker 5: I'm the point I'm getting to. So there's a level

737
00:38:21,840 --> 00:38:25,880
Speaker 5: of the guy continuing to be the guy getting better

738
00:38:26,000 --> 00:38:29,840
Speaker 5: in those other quarterbacks that you name, the Jackson's, the Burroughs,

739
00:38:29,960 --> 00:38:36,720
Speaker 5: the the Allen's and all those guys, it's they still

740
00:38:36,760 --> 00:38:39,160
Speaker 5: have a chance, and we were so quick to say

741
00:38:39,200 --> 00:38:43,760
Speaker 5: that their failures or they'll never get it done. It's like, dude,

742
00:38:44,400 --> 00:38:46,919
Speaker 5: Lamar Jackson's twenty four years old, twenty five years old.

743
00:38:47,160 --> 00:38:49,920
Speaker 5: I mean, these these are still these are still kids,

744
00:38:50,040 --> 00:38:52,719
Speaker 5: and so you're putting the pressure on them to win

745
00:38:53,440 --> 00:38:55,640
Speaker 5: right now or they're not good enough.

746
00:38:55,640 --> 00:38:56,680
Speaker 4: It's just the wrong play.

747
00:38:58,120 --> 00:39:00,799
Speaker 2: Now. You seem to be telling me at that is

748
00:39:00,920 --> 00:39:03,320
Speaker 2: not the same story that I read in the books.

749
00:39:04,480 --> 00:39:07,440
Speaker 2: You seem to be telling me that Michael Jordan played

750
00:39:07,480 --> 00:39:09,960
Speaker 2: more than six years in the NBA. Now that's not

751
00:39:10,000 --> 00:39:15,040
Speaker 2: what I read. I read that Michael Jordan played six years.

752
00:39:15,440 --> 00:39:18,759
Speaker 2: He played three and won all the championships, and then

753
00:39:18,800 --> 00:39:22,080
Speaker 2: he left to play baseball. Then he came back and

754
00:39:22,120 --> 00:39:25,520
Speaker 2: he played three more and he won three more championships,

755
00:39:25,760 --> 00:39:27,919
Speaker 2: and then he left to go make a movie called

756
00:39:28,000 --> 00:39:31,799
Speaker 2: Last Dance. That's what I under that's my understanding of

757
00:39:31,880 --> 00:39:34,120
Speaker 2: how it went. Yeah, that's it not right, and I'm

758
00:39:34,160 --> 00:39:35,160
Speaker 2: saying that's incorrect.

759
00:39:35,160 --> 00:39:36,200
Speaker 4: That's that's incorrect.

760
00:39:36,280 --> 00:39:39,480
Speaker 5: He has some some bad early years, I mean not

761
00:39:39,880 --> 00:39:43,640
Speaker 5: I wouldn't say his game was bad. He was learning

762
00:39:43,680 --> 00:39:46,080
Speaker 5: how to win, and I think that's part of the process.

763
00:39:46,200 --> 00:39:48,600
Speaker 5: You have to learn how to win. You go through

764
00:39:48,640 --> 00:39:51,800
Speaker 5: your failures, you go through the scoring sixty three points

765
00:39:51,800 --> 00:39:54,880
Speaker 5: in the in the playoff series, seventy points or whatever

766
00:39:54,880 --> 00:39:58,000
Speaker 5: the case may be against the Boston Celtics that year,

767
00:39:58,040 --> 00:39:58,920
Speaker 5: and they still lose.

768
00:39:59,320 --> 00:40:00,200
Speaker 4: So you see, you.

769
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Speaker 5: Can't do it by yourself. You see, you can't beat

770
00:40:03,080 --> 00:40:06,239
Speaker 5: a great team by yourself as one individual. It doesn't

771
00:40:06,280 --> 00:40:09,120
Speaker 5: matter how great you are, and so that doesn't limit

772
00:40:09,440 --> 00:40:13,560
Speaker 5: you being great. But other ancillary things have to fall

773
00:40:13,600 --> 00:40:17,600
Speaker 5: into place, and that's coaching, defense, offense, special teams, and

774
00:40:17,680 --> 00:40:20,080
Speaker 5: all those things have to be aligned to win, so

775
00:40:20,200 --> 00:40:21,239
Speaker 5: the quarterback can be great.

776
00:40:21,920 --> 00:40:24,879
Speaker 2: Well, we're looking at it with Kyle Shanahan and whatnot. Now,

777
00:40:24,960 --> 00:40:27,040
Speaker 2: Like I think it's one of the crazy thing in sports.

778
00:40:27,080 --> 00:40:30,200
Speaker 2: It's there's a lot of shame in getting all the

779
00:40:30,239 --> 00:40:34,359
Speaker 2: way to the finals and losing. But like those years

780
00:40:34,400 --> 00:40:36,200
Speaker 2: you're talking about with Jordan, that's kind of why I'm

781
00:40:36,280 --> 00:40:38,839
Speaker 2: joking about it, Like he didn't even make the when

782
00:40:38,840 --> 00:40:41,440
Speaker 2: he made the finals, he won. That's amazing, yes, But

783
00:40:41,800 --> 00:40:44,960
Speaker 2: like Lebron made the finals and lost, and so supposedly

784
00:40:45,000 --> 00:40:47,719
Speaker 2: that's worse than not making the finals at all, And

785
00:40:47,760 --> 00:40:52,160
Speaker 2: I'm like that, that doesn't make any sense to me. Anyway.

786
00:40:52,680 --> 00:40:55,440
Speaker 2: We can toss that a little around a little bit

787
00:40:55,480 --> 00:40:59,799
Speaker 2: more coming up next, but also a handful led by

788
00:40:59,840 --> 00:41:04,240
Speaker 2: one in particular of NBA players getting a lot of buzz,

789
00:41:04,680 --> 00:41:07,480
Speaker 2: but not necessarily for the right reasons. We'll get to

790
00:41:07,640 --> 00:41:12,279
Speaker 2: that coming up next on Fox Sports Radio. All right, now,

791
00:41:12,320 --> 00:41:14,960
Speaker 2: I'm gonna be careful what I ask you and our

792
00:41:15,000 --> 00:41:18,719
Speaker 2: audience and even of myself to be dialed in on.

793
00:41:18,800 --> 00:41:21,880
Speaker 2: In other words, like when the NFL Draft gets to

794
00:41:21,920 --> 00:41:23,960
Speaker 2: the sixth round, I'm just gonna admit it to you

795
00:41:24,040 --> 00:41:25,680
Speaker 2: right now, Carrie, I don't know who these people are.

796
00:41:25,760 --> 00:41:29,120
Speaker 2: I don't know. I'm not gonna sit here and break

797
00:41:29,160 --> 00:41:32,120
Speaker 2: down all the offensive linemen from Louisiana Tech. I don't.

798
00:41:32,560 --> 00:41:36,840
Speaker 2: I don't have that depth of sports knowledge. Some do. Okay,

799
00:41:36,920 --> 00:41:40,400
Speaker 2: that's great, but I'm not gonna ask everybody to be

800
00:41:40,560 --> 00:41:46,799
Speaker 2: totally dialed in tonight on Washington Wizard's basketball man. Not

801
00:41:46,840 --> 00:41:51,000
Speaker 2: gonna do that. We could die. We could dial in

802
00:41:51,040 --> 00:41:51,520
Speaker 2: on one of.

803
00:41:51,480 --> 00:41:54,879
Speaker 8: Them, one of them.

804
00:41:55,320 --> 00:41:58,960
Speaker 2: What's your read? And I'll save mine, just because I've

805
00:41:58,960 --> 00:42:01,600
Speaker 2: been here in the Bay Area, I've watched his entire career.

806
00:42:01,400 --> 00:42:04,200
Speaker 3: Until now, what's your What's your read on Jordan Poole.

807
00:42:04,920 --> 00:42:07,960
Speaker 5: He's not a confident guy, and I know that's been

808
00:42:08,000 --> 00:42:13,160
Speaker 5: hismo from Afar from what I've seen and just the

809
00:42:13,239 --> 00:42:17,360
Speaker 5: talk surrounding him as a as a player, as an individual,

810
00:42:18,040 --> 00:42:19,640
Speaker 5: and you can just see it in the way that

811
00:42:19,719 --> 00:42:23,680
Speaker 5: he played out in the Bay and so that's what

812
00:42:23,760 --> 00:42:26,439
Speaker 5: I would see when I see him now. He looks

813
00:42:26,480 --> 00:42:29,040
Speaker 5: like a shell of that person. And it seems like

814
00:42:30,360 --> 00:42:35,160
Speaker 5: he's hearing all the noise, right, and so he's trying to,

815
00:42:37,600 --> 00:42:41,319
Speaker 5: I guess, shrink himself in a bubble of trying to

816
00:42:41,360 --> 00:42:44,480
Speaker 5: fit the narrative that he needs for himself right now

817
00:42:44,520 --> 00:42:47,279
Speaker 5: as far as being, you know, not as flashy, not

818
00:42:47,480 --> 00:42:53,120
Speaker 5: as confident forward as he's been in the past. So

819
00:42:53,239 --> 00:42:55,400
Speaker 5: I I kind of see it as that way, because

820
00:42:55,440 --> 00:42:58,560
Speaker 5: obviously he didn't stop learning learning how to play basketball.

821
00:42:59,760 --> 00:43:02,480
Speaker 5: He's in his old life. But I think he has

822
00:43:02,560 --> 00:43:06,319
Speaker 5: to get back to a point where he believes in

823
00:43:06,400 --> 00:43:10,239
Speaker 5: himself so much like he used to that he's just

824
00:43:10,280 --> 00:43:12,040
Speaker 5: goes out and plays basketball. And that's kind of what

825
00:43:12,120 --> 00:43:14,879
Speaker 5: I see from it.

826
00:43:14,880 --> 00:43:17,600
Speaker 3: It's a really interesting story.

827
00:43:17,320 --> 00:43:21,080
Speaker 2: That has layers to it that shouldn't be there, such

828
00:43:21,120 --> 00:43:24,520
Speaker 2: as how was he affected by being punched in the

829
00:43:24,520 --> 00:43:30,680
Speaker 2: face by a teammate, How did the contract that came

830
00:43:30,760 --> 00:43:35,400
Speaker 2: only days later affect him? But I know what people

831
00:43:35,600 --> 00:43:40,560
Speaker 2: thought when he left for the Wizards, when he was

832
00:43:40,600 --> 00:43:44,800
Speaker 2: traded to the Wizards for Chris Paul, and the common

833
00:43:44,920 --> 00:43:48,120
Speaker 2: thought was, well, look, the Wizards aren't going to be

834
00:43:48,160 --> 00:43:51,799
Speaker 2: any good. But my god, that guy having his own

835
00:43:51,880 --> 00:43:54,879
Speaker 2: team and it being a team that's not trying to win.

836
00:43:55,239 --> 00:43:59,440
Speaker 3: Yeah, he gonna average twenty seven a night at least.

837
00:43:59,719 --> 00:44:05,680
Speaker 2: Right he just got benched. He's not even in the

838
00:44:05,719 --> 00:44:09,480
Speaker 2: starting lineup anymore. He is on a one hundred and

839
00:44:09,520 --> 00:44:13,600
Speaker 2: twenty five approximate million dollar contract with three and a

840
00:44:13,640 --> 00:44:17,359
Speaker 2: half years left on it, and the word coming out

841
00:44:17,400 --> 00:44:20,120
Speaker 2: of Washington is that the other players don't even like

842
00:44:20,160 --> 00:44:25,279
Speaker 2: playing with him. And again he's been pulled out of

843
00:44:25,280 --> 00:44:30,719
Speaker 2: the starting lineup. He has been an absolute standard, just

844
00:44:30,880 --> 00:44:34,000
Speaker 2: sitting there all year at the absolute bottom of the

845
00:44:34,040 --> 00:44:39,960
Speaker 2: efficiency rankings throughout the NBA. And it doesn't take away

846
00:44:40,120 --> 00:44:43,320
Speaker 2: like who he's been, you know, Jordan Poole's old story

847
00:44:44,040 --> 00:44:47,320
Speaker 2: is is a hell of a story. He was drafted

848
00:44:47,320 --> 00:44:50,600
Speaker 2: in the late first round. He was a G league

849
00:44:50,600 --> 00:44:52,560
Speaker 2: guy that was the first to show up at the

850
00:44:52,600 --> 00:44:54,680
Speaker 2: gym in the last to leave, like, he worked his

851
00:44:54,840 --> 00:44:59,120
Speaker 2: butt off, and he was a very key piece to

852
00:44:59,400 --> 00:45:02,960
Speaker 2: a champion chip squad in the NBA, right and and

853
00:45:02,960 --> 00:45:08,359
Speaker 2: and and then got punched and paid in the same week.

854
00:45:09,920 --> 00:45:13,359
Speaker 2: And where it's gone from here is a story that

855
00:45:13,480 --> 00:45:15,319
Speaker 2: maybe only a therapist could tell.

856
00:45:15,560 --> 00:45:15,640
Speaker 6: Ye.

857
00:45:16,239 --> 00:45:18,319
Speaker 5: Yeah, and that's what I would That's what I was

858
00:45:18,320 --> 00:45:21,719
Speaker 5: getting at. It's almost a when you lose, when you

859
00:45:21,760 --> 00:45:24,960
Speaker 5: lose that that it factor. I mean, you can you

860
00:45:24,960 --> 00:45:28,040
Speaker 5: can have the it factor doing anything in life. Whatever

861
00:45:28,080 --> 00:45:31,120
Speaker 5: that is there's a glow about you, there's a confidence

862
00:45:31,160 --> 00:45:33,880
Speaker 5: about you. There's it's called it's called the hit factor.

863
00:45:34,440 --> 00:45:38,600
Speaker 5: And once the it factor is gone and you start

864
00:45:38,640 --> 00:45:43,080
Speaker 5: to doubt yourself and you start to try to, you know,

865
00:45:43,200 --> 00:45:48,040
Speaker 5: put yourself in the box that somebody else prepared for you, you.

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00:45:48,000 --> 00:45:49,400
Speaker 4: Have no chance to succeed.

867
00:45:49,719 --> 00:45:51,960
Speaker 5: And then you know, like you said it too, I mean,

868
00:45:52,640 --> 00:45:55,120
Speaker 5: going into this year, I mean I was hearing guys

869
00:45:55,160 --> 00:45:57,879
Speaker 5: like Kevin Garnett say, man, I can't wait to see

870
00:45:57,920 --> 00:45:59,240
Speaker 5: Jordan Poole playing Washington.

871
00:45:59,280 --> 00:46:02,720
Speaker 4: He's gonna put up crazy numbers.

872
00:46:02,760 --> 00:46:03,520
Speaker 2: Oh yeah.

873
00:46:03,560 --> 00:46:05,960
Speaker 5: And it's just not materializing. And it's it's it's a

874
00:46:05,960 --> 00:46:07,960
Speaker 5: sad it's a sad story for me because you can

875
00:46:08,000 --> 00:46:12,319
Speaker 5: see it in his face. He has no confidence and

876
00:46:12,520 --> 00:46:15,160
Speaker 5: I don't even know if he loved what he's doing

877
00:46:15,280 --> 00:46:15,680
Speaker 5: right now.

878
00:46:16,880 --> 00:46:17,160
Speaker 3: Well.

879
00:46:17,239 --> 00:46:20,279
Speaker 2: The other thing about it, though, is that some of

880
00:46:20,320 --> 00:46:24,920
Speaker 2: it he's uh, some of it's really earned, yes, you know,

881
00:46:25,080 --> 00:46:28,640
Speaker 2: and and and and that's that's the part where you know,

882
00:46:28,719 --> 00:46:31,839
Speaker 2: I'm not saying that there isn't some some compassion here,

883
00:46:32,520 --> 00:46:35,759
Speaker 2: but by the same token, and again, like I'm not

884
00:46:35,800 --> 00:46:37,360
Speaker 2: going to say I've never met the man, but I

885
00:46:37,840 --> 00:46:41,640
Speaker 2: don't know the man, but I do know what I

886
00:46:41,719 --> 00:46:43,080
Speaker 2: hear out and about.

887
00:46:43,120 --> 00:46:46,200
Speaker 3: I do know that a lot of the Warrior players

888
00:46:46,680 --> 00:46:47,279
Speaker 3: love the guy.

889
00:46:48,040 --> 00:46:51,000
Speaker 2: You can see it when he came back to the

890
00:46:51,040 --> 00:46:53,919
Speaker 2: Bay Area a few you back in December. You can

891
00:46:53,960 --> 00:46:56,160
Speaker 2: see it with the way the crowd kind of reacted

892
00:46:56,160 --> 00:46:59,759
Speaker 2: to him then. But the word out there is is

893
00:46:59,840 --> 00:47:04,600
Speaker 2: that contract boy it really like I think normally, when

894
00:47:04,640 --> 00:47:08,120
Speaker 2: people hear what you're talking about, like always lost his confidence,

895
00:47:08,120 --> 00:47:11,000
Speaker 2: he's lost his vibe, his swagger, People are like, well, yeah,

896
00:47:11,000 --> 00:47:13,279
Speaker 2: you got punched, like right.

897
00:47:13,800 --> 00:47:15,479
Speaker 3: He also he also got one.

898
00:47:15,400 --> 00:47:19,920
Speaker 2: Hundred and thirty million dollars and and that that changes things.

899
00:47:20,640 --> 00:47:23,680
Speaker 3: And I think that this thing really went to his head.

900
00:47:23,960 --> 00:47:29,279
Speaker 2: You do and right? And he Now, for me, he

901
00:47:29,400 --> 00:47:33,520
Speaker 2: is the poster of the type of player.

902
00:47:33,640 --> 00:47:35,600
Speaker 3: And there are always a handful of.

903
00:47:35,560 --> 00:47:38,480
Speaker 2: Them in the NBA At any given time, there's a

904
00:47:38,480 --> 00:47:43,239
Speaker 2: handful of these guys. They're very, very talented. They can

905
00:47:43,360 --> 00:47:46,920
Speaker 2: score the basketball with the best in the world, but

906
00:47:47,000 --> 00:47:49,399
Speaker 2: if you really would like them to.

907
00:47:49,640 --> 00:47:54,560
Speaker 3: Lead winning basketball, you got no shot.

908
00:47:54,719 --> 00:47:59,080
Speaker 2: And and to me, Jordan Poole is the headliner of

909
00:47:59,120 --> 00:48:02,040
Speaker 2: that right now. Steve de Seger's been talking all about

910
00:48:02,080 --> 00:48:05,200
Speaker 2: the injury to Trey Young. I think Trey Young is

911
00:48:05,280 --> 00:48:08,560
Speaker 2: another one of those guys you can look and we

912
00:48:08,560 --> 00:48:11,960
Speaker 2: could probably look right now across the league. I think

913
00:48:12,080 --> 00:48:15,160
Speaker 2: Zach Levine is another one of those guys, like there's

914
00:48:15,200 --> 00:48:17,560
Speaker 2: a good handful of him. It's like, I get it, man,

915
00:48:18,160 --> 00:48:20,560
Speaker 2: you got all kinds of talent and your pinky finger,

916
00:48:21,280 --> 00:48:25,560
Speaker 2: but do you have any idea how to win? And

917
00:48:26,120 --> 00:48:32,600
Speaker 2: Jordan Jordan fit in until he suddenly didn't and the

918
00:48:32,640 --> 00:48:35,359
Speaker 2: second he didn't fit in. This is my favorite kind

919
00:48:35,400 --> 00:48:42,880
Speaker 2: of trade in professional sports. I love watching teams spin like, yeah,

920
00:48:42,280 --> 00:48:45,640
Speaker 2: this is what we wanted. We wanted to turn Jordan

921
00:48:45,719 --> 00:48:50,480
Speaker 2: Poole into Chris Paul at thirty eight years old. Ye

922
00:48:52,080 --> 00:48:55,640
Speaker 2: come on, man, you traded for one thing. You turned

923
00:48:55,680 --> 00:48:59,200
Speaker 2: Jordan Poole into financial flexibility. You wanted him the hell

924
00:48:59,200 --> 00:48:59,719
Speaker 2: off the team.

925
00:49:00,080 --> 00:49:03,759
Speaker 5: Sure, yeah, he's You made a great point there. There's

926
00:49:03,800 --> 00:49:07,840
Speaker 5: so many guys in the league that are specialists. Doesn't

927
00:49:07,840 --> 00:49:10,719
Speaker 5: mean they're winners until they get into until they get

928
00:49:10,800 --> 00:49:12,920
Speaker 5: into the right environment, into the right group, to the

929
00:49:12,960 --> 00:49:16,160
Speaker 5: right team. And you can see that across the board

930
00:49:16,200 --> 00:49:18,480
Speaker 5: with a lot of guys. I know, a lot of

931
00:49:18,520 --> 00:49:20,879
Speaker 5: the veteran guys, the older guys, the legends of the game.

932
00:49:21,480 --> 00:49:24,200
Speaker 5: They'll talk about this, and they talk about it a lot.

933
00:49:24,239 --> 00:49:29,560
Speaker 5: Where guys are putting up empty numbers, yep, and it

934
00:49:29,560 --> 00:49:32,480
Speaker 5: looks impressive. They'll they'll make some All Star teams. They

935
00:49:32,480 --> 00:49:37,640
Speaker 5: will be, you know, the the hot guys, the hot

936
00:49:37,680 --> 00:49:40,560
Speaker 5: topics for that season for you know, doing what they do,

937
00:49:40,600 --> 00:49:43,440
Speaker 5: put up a lot of numbers, but not until they

938
00:49:43,440 --> 00:49:46,799
Speaker 5: get put into the right positions and understand that it

939
00:49:46,920 --> 00:49:50,120
Speaker 5: takes a different level of commitment to win, they'll just

940
00:49:50,160 --> 00:49:51,799
Speaker 5: be guys that puts up numbers. And you made a

941
00:49:51,800 --> 00:49:54,279
Speaker 5: great point with Zach Levine because he seems to be

942
00:49:54,320 --> 00:49:58,560
Speaker 5: the trophy guy that contenders want to add to that

943
00:49:58,600 --> 00:50:00,640
Speaker 5: team because he is such a score and the guy

944
00:50:00,680 --> 00:50:03,040
Speaker 5: that can do that, but he can't do it alone.

945
00:50:03,040 --> 00:50:05,040
Speaker 5: And it's just, yeah, you're right, there's a lot of

946
00:50:05,040 --> 00:50:05,799
Speaker 5: those guys out there.

947
00:50:06,600 --> 00:50:08,560
Speaker 2: There's a lot of them out there, man. I mean,

948
00:50:08,600 --> 00:50:11,279
Speaker 2: and I think there are some also where it's like

949
00:50:12,000 --> 00:50:16,719
Speaker 2: we're not sure yet, but my antennas are up. My

950
00:50:16,800 --> 00:50:19,320
Speaker 2: intentnas have been up for a while about for instance,

951
00:50:20,200 --> 00:50:23,600
Speaker 2: John Morant, and I know he's barely playing this year,

952
00:50:23,760 --> 00:50:26,680
Speaker 2: but factor in the things that have happened off the court,

953
00:50:26,840 --> 00:50:30,120
Speaker 2: and the fact that every time he was hurt last year,

954
00:50:30,320 --> 00:50:34,560
Speaker 2: the team started to almost look like they were playing better. Yeah,

955
00:50:34,640 --> 00:50:38,520
Speaker 2: you know, there's just sort of unexplained things like that,

956
00:50:38,600 --> 00:50:41,680
Speaker 2: right and quite if you want, really the big name

957
00:50:42,360 --> 00:50:46,439
Speaker 2: that's still sort of I mean, they're playing great this year.

958
00:50:46,560 --> 00:50:49,160
Speaker 2: He's got a lot of help around him. So maybe

959
00:50:49,160 --> 00:50:52,760
Speaker 2: this isn't a perfect example, but right now, like James

960
00:50:52,760 --> 00:50:55,480
Speaker 2: Harden has not proven that he's not the kind of guy.

961
00:50:55,360 --> 00:50:59,880
Speaker 3: We're talking about. I mean, they've been on a lot

962
00:50:59,880 --> 00:51:01,000
Speaker 3: of winners.

963
00:51:00,760 --> 00:51:03,200
Speaker 5: But yeah, you know what I mean, Yeah, no, I'm

964
00:51:03,640 --> 00:51:06,160
Speaker 5: with you to a degree, James Harden.

965
00:51:06,239 --> 00:51:09,160
Speaker 4: And you know, Jordan Poole is not even in thesane So.

966
00:51:09,200 --> 00:51:10,799
Speaker 3: No, no, no, no, no, no, no.

967
00:51:11,480 --> 00:51:15,239
Speaker 2: I just mean I mean, I mean players ye can

968
00:51:15,320 --> 00:51:17,839
Speaker 2: who can you know, Jordan right now can't even put

969
00:51:17,920 --> 00:51:21,040
Speaker 2: up numbers. It was such a mess. But players who

970
00:51:21,040 --> 00:51:25,480
Speaker 2: can put up numbers who don't necessarily have a full

971
00:51:25,600 --> 00:51:30,080
Speaker 2: understanding of how to send a team deep into the playoffs.

972
00:51:30,120 --> 00:51:32,399
Speaker 2: And I know James has been to the Final four.

973
00:51:33,040 --> 00:51:34,840
Speaker 2: I get that, you know what I mean, But I

974
00:51:35,040 --> 00:51:38,279
Speaker 2: just gosh, you to think about what they did when

975
00:51:38,320 --> 00:51:40,439
Speaker 2: they got there, you know what I mean, They got

976
00:51:40,480 --> 00:51:42,560
Speaker 2: to Game seven at home against.

977
00:51:42,320 --> 00:51:45,080
Speaker 4: The Warriors and.

978
00:51:44,200 --> 00:51:46,080
Speaker 3: Miss twenty seven straight three pointers.

979
00:51:46,160 --> 00:51:47,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, or whatever it was.

980
00:51:48,520 --> 00:51:51,239
Speaker 5: Yeah, it's yeah, it's just a it's a brand, it's

981
00:51:51,280 --> 00:51:55,280
Speaker 5: winning basketball mark. It's one of those things where it's like, yeah,

982
00:51:55,320 --> 00:51:57,360
Speaker 5: it's it's all good. We know you can get your numbers.

983
00:51:57,400 --> 00:51:59,239
Speaker 5: We know you can score at will, we know you

984
00:51:59,239 --> 00:52:01,440
Speaker 5: can get your team. It's involved when you want to,

985
00:52:01,520 --> 00:52:05,800
Speaker 5: when you want to. But there's a level of chemistry,

986
00:52:05,840 --> 00:52:08,919
Speaker 5: a level of fluidity that happens on the basketball court

987
00:52:08,960 --> 00:52:11,680
Speaker 5: on the football field as well, when things are clicking

988
00:52:11,800 --> 00:52:14,400
Speaker 5: and it's all about winning. And I think one of

989
00:52:14,440 --> 00:52:18,279
Speaker 5: the examples for right now could also be in what

990
00:52:18,320 --> 00:52:21,800
Speaker 5: you're saying is Jason Tatum. Right, they've gotten there, They've

991
00:52:21,800 --> 00:52:25,439
Speaker 5: made it deep, made it to the championship, hasn't won. Right,

992
00:52:25,560 --> 00:52:27,719
Speaker 5: you have Porzingis added to the mix. You have Jew

993
00:52:27,760 --> 00:52:29,960
Speaker 5: Holliday added to the mix. Now, right, Jew Holliday has

994
00:52:29,960 --> 00:52:33,760
Speaker 5: won it. He knows how Porzingi's as a number one option,

995
00:52:33,840 --> 00:52:36,239
Speaker 5: number two options can't get it done. But on the

996
00:52:36,239 --> 00:52:39,759
Speaker 5: team that's ready to win and do winning the right way.

997
00:52:40,280 --> 00:52:42,520
Speaker 5: Look how good he plays and look how good he looks,

998
00:52:42,560 --> 00:52:44,239
Speaker 5: and look how that team is bought in. And so

999
00:52:44,640 --> 00:52:46,839
Speaker 5: we'll see if Jason Tatum can get it done this year.

1000
00:52:46,880 --> 00:52:48,640
Speaker 5: So it's it's a lot of guys out like that.

1001
00:52:49,280 --> 00:52:50,720
Speaker 5: Oh no doubt, I think.

1002
00:52:50,840 --> 00:52:54,759
Speaker 2: And I understand the whole the difficulty of this. Yeah, yeah,

1003
00:52:54,800 --> 00:52:57,960
Speaker 2: because it's not just ego, it's also money. Yep. You know,

1004
00:52:58,239 --> 00:52:59,960
Speaker 2: like a lot of these guys, it's like, well, no,

1005
00:53:00,280 --> 00:53:03,640
Speaker 2: just accept this role, be a bench player, or be

1006
00:53:03,760 --> 00:53:07,040
Speaker 2: a be a two, or be a three, or be

1007
00:53:07,120 --> 00:53:09,640
Speaker 2: a three and D guy. And and they're sitting there

1008
00:53:09,640 --> 00:53:14,200
Speaker 2: going no, Like you're You're like, you're essentially asking me

1009
00:53:14,280 --> 00:53:17,320
Speaker 2: to give you millions of dollars and and and I

1010
00:53:17,400 --> 00:53:19,319
Speaker 2: don't want to do that. And that's a big part

1011
00:53:19,360 --> 00:53:22,240
Speaker 2: of what's going on with these guys is they're trying

1012
00:53:22,280 --> 00:53:25,200
Speaker 2: to show that they're whether they're a max guy or

1013
00:53:25,560 --> 00:53:27,279
Speaker 2: or they're a two or this, that and the other.

1014
00:53:27,400 --> 00:53:29,879
Speaker 3: So but if you look at his career, and this.

1015
00:53:29,960 --> 00:53:33,920
Speaker 2: Is a big favorite now, like the likelihood is the

1016
00:53:34,000 --> 00:53:38,879
Speaker 2: last time Jordan Poole is ever going to dance in it, right,

1017
00:53:39,200 --> 00:53:42,160
Speaker 2: It's like this very likely he's never going to see

1018
00:53:42,200 --> 00:53:45,719
Speaker 2: again what he saw early in his career where he

1019
00:53:45,760 --> 00:53:48,520
Speaker 2: was a six man and he was a very key

1020
00:53:48,560 --> 00:53:51,480
Speaker 2: piece on a championship roster, and he got to the

1021
00:53:51,480 --> 00:53:54,440
Speaker 2: point where he didn't want that anymore, and and the

1022
00:53:54,440 --> 00:53:55,879
Speaker 2: money and the ego got him.

1023
00:53:55,880 --> 00:53:58,840
Speaker 3: And that's fine. I mean, you know what I really knew.

1024
00:53:58,880 --> 00:54:02,560
Speaker 2: There was a quote shortly after he started his time

1025
00:54:02,600 --> 00:54:07,759
Speaker 2: in Washington and he basically said, like, you know, you're

1026
00:54:07,800 --> 00:54:11,960
Speaker 2: talking about rings and contract and that stuff's all been

1027
00:54:12,000 --> 00:54:12,919
Speaker 2: taken care of now.

1028
00:54:13,080 --> 00:54:16,120
Speaker 4: Yeah, And I'm like, what I saw that too.

1029
00:54:16,239 --> 00:54:18,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, My man's not even like I don't even think

1030
00:54:18,600 --> 00:54:20,719
Speaker 2: he's twenty five years old yet. When he said that,

1031
00:54:21,800 --> 00:54:27,399
Speaker 2: it's just like wow, wow, Okay, you know, but yeah,

1032
00:54:27,520 --> 00:54:30,279
Speaker 2: high likelihood he's never he's never going to see that

1033
00:54:30,400 --> 00:54:30,960
Speaker 2: round again.

1034
00:54:31,040 --> 00:54:33,880
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's that whole adage, Mark, be careful what you

1035
00:54:33,880 --> 00:54:34,279
Speaker 4: wish for.

1036
00:54:34,840 --> 00:54:35,040
Speaker 2: You know.

1037
00:54:35,120 --> 00:54:37,960
Speaker 5: People want to be that guy, and people want the

1038
00:54:38,040 --> 00:54:41,600
Speaker 5: responsibility they think until the responsibility is putting your lap

1039
00:54:41,640 --> 00:54:44,759
Speaker 5: and it's not what you know, not what you thought

1040
00:54:44,760 --> 00:54:46,040
Speaker 5: it was going to be. And so yeah, I think

1041
00:54:46,080 --> 00:54:48,799
Speaker 5: that's what the position he's in right now. And I

1042
00:54:48,880 --> 00:54:52,319
Speaker 5: just really hope that he can, you know, gain some

1043
00:54:52,400 --> 00:54:55,399
Speaker 5: type of resemblance of the guy he was, because right

1044
00:54:55,400 --> 00:54:55,880
Speaker 5: now it is.

1045
00:54:55,920 --> 00:54:56,359
Speaker 2: It's bad.

1046
00:54:56,480 --> 00:54:57,600
Speaker 4: It looks really bad.

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Speaker 2: So everybody spent the week trying to figure out the

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1058
00:55:33,840 --> 00:55:36,400
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1059
00:55:36,400 --> 00:55:39,960
Speaker 2: Mark Willard on Fox Sports Radio. All right, that's Carry Rhoads.

1060
00:55:40,000 --> 00:55:43,359
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Speaker 2: com in football, Carry, but uh, I know you love

1063
00:55:56,800 --> 00:56:02,080
Speaker 2: whop Yeah man. So it's February twenty fifth. That means

1064
00:56:02,120 --> 00:56:04,359
Speaker 2: it is four days. I know we got a leap

1065
00:56:04,400 --> 00:56:07,560
Speaker 2: here this year, so four or five days till March

1066
00:56:07,760 --> 00:56:13,319
Speaker 2: March madness? How many college basketball games watch so far?

1067
00:56:15,160 --> 00:56:18,360
Speaker 5: You know you're on the side there, brother, go ahead,

1068
00:56:18,360 --> 00:56:20,799
Speaker 5: and how many of you watched Let's see, I would

1069
00:56:20,840 --> 00:56:22,480
Speaker 5: have only watched.

1070
00:56:24,320 --> 00:56:26,080
Speaker 4: It would be Duke because I'm a I am a

1071
00:56:26,160 --> 00:56:26,600
Speaker 4: Duke fan.

1072
00:56:27,080 --> 00:56:33,600
Speaker 5: I've probably watched five, five six games all year of

1073
00:56:33,680 --> 00:56:37,799
Speaker 5: Duke and I am a real Dukie. So yes, not

1074
00:56:37,920 --> 00:56:38,520
Speaker 5: a lot.

1075
00:56:39,280 --> 00:56:42,680
Speaker 2: It's crazy. It's crazy, it really is, you know. And

1076
00:56:42,719 --> 00:56:45,200
Speaker 2: I like people of a certain age are gonna be

1077
00:56:45,280 --> 00:56:49,400
Speaker 2: like what, And I just I don't. I'm not trying

1078
00:56:49,440 --> 00:56:54,400
Speaker 2: to say this to uh, you know, to criticize. In

1079
00:56:54,840 --> 00:56:57,359
Speaker 2: some ways, there's nothing to criticize, Like this has been

1080
00:56:57,480 --> 00:57:01,000
Speaker 2: an organic sort of a fall from grace and and

1081
00:57:01,480 --> 00:57:04,080
Speaker 2: and I'm also open to maybe it's just me.

1082
00:57:04,800 --> 00:57:05,879
Speaker 3: I don't think it's just me.

1083
00:57:06,480 --> 00:57:10,000
Speaker 2: But but but maybe it's just me. But boy, we

1084
00:57:10,120 --> 00:57:12,560
Speaker 2: have reached this spot because if you said you've watched

1085
00:57:12,560 --> 00:57:15,680
Speaker 2: five games, that's four and a half more than I've watched. Really,

1086
00:57:16,280 --> 00:57:19,320
Speaker 2: oh god, I like parenthetically caught a little bit of

1087
00:57:19,440 --> 00:57:22,440
Speaker 2: USC and U c l A last night, and I

1088
00:57:22,480 --> 00:57:26,080
Speaker 2: think it was because I came home from dinner and

1089
00:57:26,120 --> 00:57:29,960
Speaker 2: one of my sons either had it on or accidentally

1090
00:57:30,000 --> 00:57:32,720
Speaker 2: had it on, like he left the TV on from earlier,

1091
00:57:33,480 --> 00:57:35,880
Speaker 2: and there it was, and I'm like, check out a

1092
00:57:35,920 --> 00:57:38,720
Speaker 2: few minutes of this. I'm like, okay, I got it,

1093
00:57:38,840 --> 00:57:43,760
Speaker 2: and and that's it. And I don't I don't know

1094
00:57:44,600 --> 00:57:48,640
Speaker 2: how to get that back. I really wish that I could,

1095
00:57:49,280 --> 00:57:54,560
Speaker 2: but I beyond the brackets and uh, and even those,

1096
00:57:54,640 --> 00:57:58,040
Speaker 2: I don't really grab onto them the way that I

1097
00:57:58,200 --> 00:58:01,480
Speaker 2: that I used to. I don't know. I don't know

1098
00:58:01,800 --> 00:58:02,320
Speaker 2: how to.

1099
00:58:02,720 --> 00:58:04,880
Speaker 3: You know, everyone wants to fix the All Star Game.

1100
00:58:05,720 --> 00:58:09,680
Speaker 2: We've given up on the idea of fixing college basketball.

1101
00:58:09,760 --> 00:58:11,600
Speaker 3: And I think the answer to both of them is

1102
00:58:11,600 --> 00:58:15,520
Speaker 3: the exact same thing. There is no answer, you know.

1103
00:58:15,520 --> 00:58:19,840
Speaker 5: What the college basketball is. I think it's lost its

1104
00:58:19,880 --> 00:58:25,000
Speaker 5: lore because and I hate to beat this guy because

1105
00:58:25,040 --> 00:58:28,640
Speaker 5: I'm a I'm a believer in go get your money

1106
00:58:29,520 --> 00:58:31,800
Speaker 5: if you need to, you know what I mean. We

1107
00:58:31,800 --> 00:58:34,919
Speaker 5: don't know family situations, family dynamics, and what the need

1108
00:58:34,960 --> 00:58:40,760
Speaker 5: there is. But there's no I don't fall in love

1109
00:58:40,840 --> 00:58:44,600
Speaker 5: with the guys there anymore. Right like in my duke

1110
00:58:44,680 --> 00:58:46,760
Speaker 5: days when I got introduced to the game, Right, there's

1111
00:58:47,360 --> 00:58:51,080
Speaker 5: Grant Hill, who could obviously leave as a freshman and

1112
00:58:51,120 --> 00:58:51,959
Speaker 5: go play in the NBA.

1113
00:58:52,600 --> 00:58:55,320
Speaker 4: He stayed three years. You had the Bobby Hurleys, you

1114
00:58:55,320 --> 00:58:58,400
Speaker 4: had the Christian Laightoners stand four years. Like, you get

1115
00:58:58,440 --> 00:59:00,919
Speaker 4: to fall in love with the guy and the team,

1116
00:59:00,960 --> 00:59:04,920
Speaker 4: and so that added layer makes you want to tune

1117
00:59:04,920 --> 00:59:07,320
Speaker 4: in to see what they're doing because you want to

1118
00:59:07,400 --> 00:59:08,000
Speaker 4: root for the guy.

1119
00:59:08,080 --> 00:59:11,680
Speaker 5: Now right, that doesn't happen anymore. You know, those guys

1120
00:59:11,680 --> 00:59:14,720
Speaker 5: aren't sticking around, and so you know, it's a whole

1121
00:59:14,760 --> 00:59:17,320
Speaker 5: new team meets here. You got to learn who this

1122
00:59:17,360 --> 00:59:20,200
Speaker 5: guy is and where they're from and if I really

1123
00:59:20,240 --> 00:59:20,919
Speaker 5: care about them.

1124
00:59:21,480 --> 00:59:23,520
Speaker 4: So I think that's part of the problem for me.

1125
00:59:24,240 --> 00:59:27,680
Speaker 5: But yeah, it's bad because I literally literally would not

1126
00:59:28,000 --> 00:59:31,280
Speaker 5: miss a college duke game, and I would even occasionally

1127
00:59:31,320 --> 00:59:34,480
Speaker 5: watch two high level other college teams. And that just

1128
00:59:34,520 --> 00:59:35,800
Speaker 5: doesn't happen at all anymore.

1129
00:59:36,400 --> 00:59:38,920
Speaker 2: Well, I mean, like, I think there are a lot

1130
00:59:38,920 --> 00:59:43,240
Speaker 2: of people who if you were like, okay, I give

1131
00:59:43,280 --> 00:59:49,400
Speaker 2: you a million dollars if you could name two men's.

1132
00:59:49,120 --> 00:59:50,959
Speaker 3: College basketball players right now.

1133
00:59:51,720 --> 00:59:53,400
Speaker 2: And the reason I say too is because one of

1134
00:59:53,400 --> 00:59:59,120
Speaker 2: them is Brownie James and yep, and past that. Honestly,

1135
00:59:59,320 --> 01:00:00,960
Speaker 2: like I'm not even hitting. I don't think a lot

1136
01:00:01,000 --> 01:00:03,800
Speaker 2: of people could even name a second player. They'd be

1137
01:00:03,880 --> 01:00:06,480
Speaker 2: like this Caitlyn Clark count and would be like, no,

1138
01:00:06,600 --> 01:00:08,320
Speaker 2: we're not talking about the women's game.

1139
01:00:08,360 --> 01:00:09,480
Speaker 3: That's completely different.

1140
01:00:10,480 --> 01:00:13,400
Speaker 2: And and and actually there's a point to be made

1141
01:00:13,800 --> 01:00:17,160
Speaker 2: in bringing her name up. That's that's the player that

1142
01:00:17,320 --> 01:00:21,520
Speaker 2: you are talking about. And that player, for all kinds

1143
01:00:21,560 --> 01:00:23,760
Speaker 2: of reasons, doesn't exist.

1144
01:00:23,960 --> 01:00:25,360
Speaker 3: In the men's game anymore.

1145
01:00:26,120 --> 01:00:30,480
Speaker 2: It doesn't exist that player who we can follow, who

1146
01:00:30,840 --> 01:00:34,560
Speaker 2: we find entertaining, been there for multiple years.

1147
01:00:34,280 --> 01:00:35,720
Speaker 4: Or even when we want to hate, you know what

1148
01:00:35,760 --> 01:00:36,440
Speaker 4: I mean, Like.

1149
01:00:37,840 --> 01:00:39,440
Speaker 3: You know what I mean, right, I mean you're a

1150
01:00:39,520 --> 01:00:40,000
Speaker 3: Duke fan.

1151
01:00:40,120 --> 01:00:42,760
Speaker 4: The rest of us hated that exactly. We hated all

1152
01:00:42,800 --> 01:00:45,320
Speaker 4: those people that you rooted for exactly.

1153
01:00:45,080 --> 01:00:47,280
Speaker 2: Bobby Hurley, Christian Runner. I don't even know how you

1154
01:00:47,360 --> 01:00:50,000
Speaker 2: root for those people and keep your soul. I don't

1155
01:00:50,000 --> 01:00:50,440
Speaker 2: know how.

1156
01:00:50,280 --> 01:00:54,040
Speaker 5: You did it exactly, But that's the But that was

1157
01:00:54,280 --> 01:00:57,040
Speaker 5: that was the thing though, right, It was a love

1158
01:00:57,160 --> 01:00:59,760
Speaker 5: hate like it was that you know when you're playing Duke,

1159
01:00:59,880 --> 01:01:05,040
Speaker 5: Like you really hated UNC, you hated Montrosse, you hated

1160
01:01:05,080 --> 01:01:06,760
Speaker 5: those guys, you know what I mean? Like that was

1161
01:01:07,280 --> 01:01:09,160
Speaker 5: the beauty of the game, and it made it so

1162
01:01:09,240 --> 01:01:12,240
Speaker 5: intense and it was such a fun thing. I mean

1163
01:01:12,280 --> 01:01:15,680
Speaker 5: even on a random Saturday, and like at this time

1164
01:01:15,760 --> 01:01:18,920
Speaker 5: late February, early March, Duke U and C like that

1165
01:01:19,120 --> 01:01:21,959
Speaker 5: was can't miss for the world, not just if you're

1166
01:01:22,000 --> 01:01:24,960
Speaker 5: a Duke UNC fan. Like people tuned in to see

1167
01:01:24,960 --> 01:01:27,800
Speaker 5: what's going to happen that game right now, no doubt, nobody,

1168
01:01:27,920 --> 01:01:29,360
Speaker 5: nobody are, nobody is.

1169
01:01:29,800 --> 01:01:32,360
Speaker 2: And you know, do you know how hard I've worked

1170
01:01:32,360 --> 01:01:36,160
Speaker 2: at this in my career and even off air, I've

1171
01:01:36,240 --> 01:01:40,640
Speaker 2: worked very hard. I don't ever want it gets harder

1172
01:01:40,680 --> 01:01:45,160
Speaker 2: every year. I don't want to sound like the guy wow,

1173
01:01:45,360 --> 01:01:49,240
Speaker 2: it just it isn't like it used to be. Oh

1174
01:01:49,320 --> 01:01:52,560
Speaker 2: my god, I can't stand that. I just can't stand that,

1175
01:01:53,080 --> 01:01:58,320
Speaker 2: because that's just an omnipresent fact about life. Everything evolves, yes,

1176
01:01:58,400 --> 01:02:01,720
Speaker 2: and and and and as you get older. I watched this.

1177
01:02:01,840 --> 01:02:04,680
Speaker 2: I remember when I was young and and and you'd like,

1178
01:02:04,840 --> 01:02:07,880
Speaker 2: look at people who you'd respect, they were your elders,

1179
01:02:08,400 --> 01:02:12,520
Speaker 2: but you'd also be like, really, you're so Like now

1180
01:02:12,600 --> 01:02:16,400
Speaker 2: I have a phone that I can go out at

1181
01:02:16,480 --> 01:02:20,680
Speaker 2: night with my friends, but if something's up, I can

1182
01:02:20,800 --> 01:02:24,680
Speaker 2: call you. Yeah, and you're gonna tell me that's somehow

1183
01:02:24,720 --> 01:02:28,320
Speaker 2: that's a bad thing, Like I don't understand what you're taught. Like,

1184
01:02:28,400 --> 01:02:32,600
Speaker 2: of course things come with new challenges, but there are, right,

1185
01:02:32,640 --> 01:02:35,120
Speaker 2: there are improvements. And as much as we could all

1186
01:02:35,200 --> 01:02:38,240
Speaker 2: sit all phones and social media, okay, fine, give them back,

1187
01:02:38,920 --> 01:02:41,880
Speaker 2: turn your phone in, no one's gonna do it right right,

1188
01:02:41,960 --> 01:02:44,880
Speaker 2: because there's there's too much improvement there. So I don't

1189
01:02:45,040 --> 01:02:48,160
Speaker 2: ever want to sound like that, but there's just I

1190
01:02:48,240 --> 01:02:50,160
Speaker 2: come from a place where as a sports fan, I

1191
01:02:50,160 --> 01:02:53,800
Speaker 2: feel like there's loss there. All Star Game, who cares?

1192
01:02:53,880 --> 01:02:57,200
Speaker 2: I was like, nobody was ever right, nobody ever made

1193
01:02:57,240 --> 01:03:00,680
Speaker 2: popcorn for the All Star Game. It was cooler, but

1194
01:03:00,840 --> 01:03:04,680
Speaker 2: like you didn't at least I didn't. I yeah, i'd watch,

1195
01:03:05,200 --> 01:03:08,240
Speaker 2: but I wasn't like, oh my god, clear the calendar,

1196
01:03:08,960 --> 01:03:12,480
Speaker 2: it's All Star weekend. But like you said, man College

1197
01:03:12,480 --> 01:03:17,640
Speaker 2: Hoop like that had it had games like fab five

1198
01:03:17,880 --> 01:03:21,200
Speaker 2: like what like there was there was stuff there, yes,

1199
01:03:21,360 --> 01:03:23,960
Speaker 2: and now I just I can't find it. I'm over

1200
01:03:24,000 --> 01:03:25,920
Speaker 2: here looking for it and I can't find it.

1201
01:03:26,000 --> 01:03:28,760
Speaker 5: Mark, you know, to even double down on that thought

1202
01:03:28,760 --> 01:03:32,080
Speaker 5: and that idea I can name. And you've made a

1203
01:03:32,120 --> 01:03:37,800
Speaker 5: point about Caitlin Clark. I can name more women basketball

1204
01:03:37,800 --> 01:03:42,919
Speaker 5: player right now than you know down male collegiate basketball players, right, yeah, yeah,

1205
01:03:43,040 --> 01:03:45,440
Speaker 5: and it's it's that's that's crazy to think about.

1206
01:03:45,800 --> 01:03:51,400
Speaker 2: I mean, right, that's that's crazy. That's something that's something.

1207
01:03:52,480 --> 01:03:55,040
Speaker 2: Now we bring in someone who could probably name the

1208
01:03:55,080 --> 01:03:59,200
Speaker 2: starting five for the entire top twenty five across America.

1209
01:03:59,320 --> 01:04:01,160
Speaker 2: He goes by the new of Steve de Sager. We

1210
01:04:01,200 --> 01:04:04,920
Speaker 2: won't forget his name. He's got what's stretding hay Steve. No.

1211
01:04:05,080 --> 01:04:07,320
Speaker 8: Actually, I will prove your point because I had to

1212
01:04:07,360 --> 01:04:09,880
Speaker 8: look up the five preseason All Americans.

1213
01:04:11,120 --> 01:04:12,640
Speaker 2: Had you heard of any of them? Steve?

1214
01:04:13,000 --> 01:04:14,240
Speaker 4: Please name them? Name them?

1215
01:04:14,760 --> 01:04:16,640
Speaker 8: Well, the guy who I'm going to talk about in

1216
01:04:16,640 --> 01:04:20,479
Speaker 8: a moment, Zachid, came back to Purdue, and people who

1217
01:04:20,560 --> 01:04:23,480
Speaker 8: watch college basketball, that's probably the one name they could

1218
01:04:23,520 --> 01:04:26,880
Speaker 8: come up with. Seven foot four, so he stands out

1219
01:04:26,920 --> 01:04:30,120
Speaker 8: aside from being very productive. The guy who got run

1220
01:04:30,120 --> 01:04:33,640
Speaker 8: over by the fans in the Duke loss yesterday, Kyle

1221
01:04:33,680 --> 01:04:37,439
Speaker 8: Philipowski is a seven footer who's probably a first round

1222
01:04:37,520 --> 01:04:40,600
Speaker 8: NBA draft pick, And I assume we're going to be

1223
01:04:40,600 --> 01:04:42,720
Speaker 8: seeing a lot of Duke over the next month. Therefore,

1224
01:04:42,800 --> 01:04:45,400
Speaker 8: that's probably another name that will come up. And another

1225
01:04:45,440 --> 01:04:48,320
Speaker 8: preseason All American who's seven foot two, the guy who

1226
01:04:48,360 --> 01:04:51,360
Speaker 8: transferred from Michigan to Kansas poy did he get get

1227
01:04:51,400 --> 01:04:54,800
Speaker 8: out of there in time? Hunter Dickinson is also very good.

1228
01:04:54,840 --> 01:04:57,880
Speaker 8: But if they're not a seven footer, let's say, to

1229
01:04:58,000 --> 01:05:00,800
Speaker 8: say the least, you do not stand out on the

1230
01:05:00,840 --> 01:05:05,000
Speaker 8: men's basketball landscape. Meanwhile, Caitlin Clark has been a starter

1231
01:05:05,160 --> 01:05:09,000
Speaker 8: for four years at Iowa, including the final four last year,

1232
01:05:09,080 --> 01:05:11,640
Speaker 8: and she's twenty eight points a game for her career,

1233
01:05:12,360 --> 01:05:15,720
Speaker 8: and today she recorded her sixteenth career triple double in

1234
01:05:15,800 --> 01:05:18,840
Speaker 8: Iowa's win against Illinois. The number one ranked women's team,

1235
01:05:18,880 --> 01:05:21,400
Speaker 8: South Carolina is twenty seven and zero now after an

1236
01:05:21,400 --> 01:05:25,320
Speaker 8: easy win at Kentucky one to oh three to fifty five. Boy,

1237
01:05:25,360 --> 01:05:28,480
Speaker 8: do we have a great golf story from today's play

1238
01:05:28,720 --> 01:05:30,960
Speaker 8: In just a moment. Let's continue with the hoops, though,

1239
01:05:30,960 --> 01:05:33,760
Speaker 8: because All American center Zach Edy of number three ranked

1240
01:05:33,760 --> 01:05:38,120
Speaker 8: Perdue had thirty five points, fifteen rebounds, no turnovers in

1241
01:05:38,160 --> 01:05:41,200
Speaker 8: a win at Michigan eighty four seventy six. You remember

1242
01:05:41,200 --> 01:05:45,760
Speaker 8: when Michigan was very good in basketball in Conference three

1243
01:05:45,800 --> 01:05:48,360
Speaker 8: and fourteen in the Big Ten this year, I said

1244
01:05:48,440 --> 01:05:52,040
Speaker 8: three and fourteen on FS one seventh rank. Marquette beat

1245
01:05:52,120 --> 01:05:54,880
Speaker 8: Xavier eighty eight sixty four. Marquette is second place in

1246
01:05:54,920 --> 01:05:57,640
Speaker 8: the Big East behind Connecticut. Saint John's at home beat

1247
01:05:57,720 --> 01:06:01,880
Speaker 8: number fifteen Creighton eighty to sixty sive. Rick Patino is coaching, Yes,

1248
01:06:01,920 --> 01:06:03,480
Speaker 8: Saint John's. For those unaware, he.

1249
01:06:03,480 --> 01:06:04,800
Speaker 4: Had an all white suit on Today' station.

1250
01:06:04,880 --> 01:06:05,120
Speaker 2: He did.

1251
01:06:05,200 --> 01:06:07,520
Speaker 8: It was a lightout in New York for this one.

1252
01:06:07,680 --> 01:06:10,120
Speaker 8: Ohio State won on a last second three pointer at

1253
01:06:10,120 --> 01:06:13,680
Speaker 8: Michigan State sixty to fifty seven. Victories for South Florida

1254
01:06:13,720 --> 01:06:16,800
Speaker 8: and Memphis. South Florida fourteen and one in the American Conference.

1255
01:06:16,800 --> 01:06:19,280
Speaker 8: They're in the final minute of the NBA game at

1256
01:06:19,280 --> 01:06:22,480
Speaker 8: Golden State Denver, now up one seventeen to one oh three.

1257
01:06:22,560 --> 01:06:27,680
Speaker 8: Another triple double for Nicola Jokic thirty two points, sixteen rebounds,

1258
01:06:27,680 --> 01:06:31,840
Speaker 8: sixteen assists off the bench. Clay Thompson for the Warriors.

1259
01:06:31,880 --> 01:06:33,920
Speaker 8: I have not seen him score point in the second half.

1260
01:06:34,000 --> 01:06:37,600
Speaker 8: He's gotten about fifteen minutes in each half, but twenty

1261
01:06:37,640 --> 01:06:40,240
Speaker 8: three points all in the first half. Utah has lost

1262
01:06:40,320 --> 01:06:42,240
Speaker 8: five in a row, but they're up eighty to fifty

1263
01:06:42,320 --> 01:06:46,280
Speaker 8: nine against the Spurs. Mid third quarter, Cleveland sent Washington

1264
01:06:46,320 --> 01:06:49,760
Speaker 8: to an eleventh straight loss. Chicago and Atlanta got victories.

1265
01:06:49,760 --> 01:06:50,160
Speaker 4: The Hawks.

1266
01:06:50,160 --> 01:06:52,800
Speaker 8: Trey Young will have left hand surgery Tuesday and miss

1267
01:06:52,800 --> 01:06:55,240
Speaker 8: at least four weeks. By the way, the Atlanta win

1268
01:06:55,400 --> 01:06:58,120
Speaker 8: was against Orlando, and I can update that for the

1269
01:06:58,200 --> 01:07:01,640
Speaker 8: Magic Polo Benkero, Apparently the reason he was resting tonight

1270
01:07:01,760 --> 01:07:04,320
Speaker 8: was illness, but he did play a late game last

1271
01:07:04,400 --> 01:07:06,360
Speaker 8: night and had the game winning three point play in

1272
01:07:06,400 --> 01:07:10,040
Speaker 8: the final second. So there's your info. Phoenix and Milwaukee

1273
01:07:10,120 --> 01:07:13,840
Speaker 8: each one today. Indiana ended Dallas's seven game winning streak

1274
01:07:13,920 --> 01:07:17,880
Speaker 8: one thirty three to one eleven. NASCAR on Fox TV

1275
01:07:18,080 --> 01:07:21,160
Speaker 8: was at Atlanta and in a photo finish, Daniel Suarez

1276
01:07:21,200 --> 01:07:24,320
Speaker 8: the winner, just ahead of Ryan Blaney and Kyle Busch

1277
01:07:24,720 --> 01:07:27,480
Speaker 8: and out of the golf today. A PGA Tour rookie

1278
01:07:27,920 --> 01:07:30,720
Speaker 8: who turns thirty in May was the winner of the

1279
01:07:30,760 --> 01:07:34,640
Speaker 8: event the Mexico opened today. Jake Knapp from UCLA earns

1280
01:07:34,640 --> 01:07:37,200
Speaker 8: a trip to the Masters in April and the PGA

1281
01:07:37,360 --> 01:07:41,320
Speaker 8: Championship in May. Napp also gets into the remaining five

1282
01:07:41,560 --> 01:07:44,640
Speaker 8: signature events, the big money events on tours, starting with

1283
01:07:44,720 --> 01:07:47,520
Speaker 8: Bayhill in a couple weeks for the Arnold Palmer Invitational.

1284
01:07:48,000 --> 01:07:50,320
Speaker 8: This is a guy who said he still sends a

1285
01:07:50,360 --> 01:07:54,000
Speaker 8: text after each round to his late grandfather, who died

1286
01:07:54,040 --> 01:07:57,720
Speaker 8: of cancer last year. His grandfather's initials are tattooed on

1287
01:07:57,800 --> 01:08:01,440
Speaker 8: his arm nap this weekend earned about one point four

1288
01:08:01,480 --> 01:08:05,400
Speaker 8: to six million dollars. Notable because this guy has been

1289
01:08:05,480 --> 01:08:08,840
Speaker 8: around four seasons on PGA Tour Canada, two years on

1290
01:08:08,880 --> 01:08:11,840
Speaker 8: the Corn Ferry Tour. He's graduated that finally got his

1291
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Speaker 8: PGA Tour card for this year. He's from Southern California,

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Speaker 8: Big Anaheim Ducks fan in Southern California. In January in

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01:08:19,800 --> 01:08:22,000
Speaker 8: San Diego, he tied for third, so he earned about

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01:08:22,000 --> 01:08:25,639
Speaker 8: a half million dollars there. Jake Knapp once worked as

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01:08:25,680 --> 01:08:29,600
Speaker 8: a bouncer at night. He needed daytime hours to practice

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Speaker 8: and cash to pay his entry fees. He said after that,

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Speaker 8: I did not take golf for granted.

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Speaker 2: Wow, back to you, that's beautiful. Love that beautiful. I

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01:08:37,200 --> 01:08:38,880
Speaker 2: love that. You could have also told me he was

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01:08:39,000 --> 01:08:43,479
Speaker 2: Yukon's leading scorer and I would have believed you because

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01:08:43,560 --> 01:08:46,720
Speaker 2: I haven't heard of him either. But that's a that's

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01:08:46,760 --> 01:08:49,360
Speaker 2: a really good story. I love that. That's a story.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, man, Steve, thanks as always.

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01:08:52,479 --> 01:08:55,719
Speaker 2: That's great stuff that that you know, and I think

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01:08:56,640 --> 01:08:59,000
Speaker 2: and actually Steve may remember this.

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Speaker 3: What's that Netflix? And I know you're big in the

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01:09:01,840 --> 01:09:02,719
Speaker 3: entertainment industry.

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Speaker 2: That Netflix documentary that followed the golfers around and it

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01:09:07,280 --> 01:09:10,519
Speaker 2: just got it just got renewed for another season. I'm

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Speaker 2: blanking on the name of it. Full Swing, Thank you,

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Speaker 2: thank you very much, fantastically done. And uh yeah that

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Speaker 2: I'll say this. I know golf doesn't relate to everybody

1313
01:09:24,240 --> 01:09:26,679
Speaker 2: more so now maybe than it did when when when

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01:09:26,720 --> 01:09:28,880
Speaker 2: we were young, and and Tiger Woods is a big

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01:09:28,920 --> 01:09:32,479
Speaker 2: part of that. But but the stories that come from

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01:09:32,520 --> 01:09:37,240
Speaker 2: that sport are so fascinating and I know that, you know,

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01:09:37,400 --> 01:09:41,519
Speaker 2: I know it's not the same in most cases as

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01:09:41,920 --> 01:09:44,040
Speaker 2: you know some of the rags to riches stories that

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01:09:44,120 --> 01:09:47,960
Speaker 2: you get in some of our more traditional sports. But

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01:09:48,400 --> 01:09:52,439
Speaker 2: the grueling nature of what's happening between a person in

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01:09:52,560 --> 01:09:56,800
Speaker 2: between their ears and just kind of with no teammates

1322
01:09:57,720 --> 01:10:00,880
Speaker 2: and just out on the road, like try to do this,

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01:10:01,760 --> 01:10:06,000
Speaker 2: it is some of the most intense stuff ever. I've

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01:10:06,000 --> 01:10:09,960
Speaker 2: even had some close friends who have have done it

1325
01:10:10,120 --> 01:10:14,080
Speaker 2: and some who have fallen very very short and it

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01:10:14,160 --> 01:10:17,880
Speaker 2: is just it is some of the most grueling mental gymnastics. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: I've ever watched. I love hearing stories like that, like

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Speaker 2: the one Steve just shared. Yeah, that story was beautiful.

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Speaker 5: I mean it's just that you know that continuation of

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01:10:25,439 --> 01:10:28,760
Speaker 5: perseverance that you know a lot of people, you know,

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01:10:29,439 --> 01:10:31,479
Speaker 5: take for granted, right, I mean a lot of people

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01:10:31,880 --> 01:10:35,040
Speaker 5: don't see or would not know that story and just

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01:10:35,040 --> 01:10:36,840
Speaker 5: see a guy out there swinging and swinging the ball

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01:10:37,280 --> 01:10:39,599
Speaker 5: on the on the greens and you know, winning tournaments

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01:10:39,720 --> 01:10:41,720
Speaker 5: or trying to win tournaments or trying to qualify. But

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Speaker 5: when you get to understand the story and get to

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01:10:45,320 --> 01:10:47,960
Speaker 5: know people, I think that's the beautiful thing about sports

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01:10:47,960 --> 01:10:51,080
Speaker 5: and life in general, getting to actually know the stories

1339
01:10:51,120 --> 01:10:53,479
Speaker 5: and behind the saying things. And I think that's that's

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Speaker 5: a beautiful story for sure.

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Speaker 2: Well, and it's funny too, because you'll see this in

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01:10:57,040 --> 01:11:00,439
Speaker 2: every PGA Tour event, Like I think it happened to

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01:11:00,520 --> 01:11:03,160
Speaker 2: maybe e Xander Schoffley last week. One of the guys

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01:11:03,479 --> 01:11:06,280
Speaker 2: had a putt that lipped out at the end of

1345
01:11:06,320 --> 01:11:08,120
Speaker 2: the tournament and I think it was like an eight

1346
01:11:08,200 --> 01:11:11,719
Speaker 2: hundred thousand dollars miss or something like that. Yeah, yeah,

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01:11:11,880 --> 01:11:16,960
Speaker 2: And I always laugh because I'm like, right, so he

1348
01:11:17,160 --> 01:11:22,000
Speaker 2: would have made two hundred thousand this weekend, you know,

1349
01:11:22,360 --> 01:11:25,519
Speaker 2: or or like he would have made one point five

1350
01:11:25,560 --> 01:11:29,439
Speaker 2: million this weekend, and now he makes now he's gonna

1351
01:11:29,439 --> 01:11:35,599
Speaker 2: make seven hundred thousand this weekend. I'm like, you're fine,

1352
01:11:36,400 --> 01:11:39,559
Speaker 2: You're fine. I'm more interested like in the old days,

1353
01:11:39,560 --> 01:11:41,519
Speaker 2: because I do. I do have a close friend who

1354
01:11:41,520 --> 01:11:44,679
Speaker 2: went through this process, like the old Q school days,

1355
01:11:46,160 --> 01:11:49,960
Speaker 2: where you're like, talk about pressure. I let oh this

1356
01:11:50,040 --> 01:11:53,280
Speaker 2: pressure putt. Think about now when you're pulling the potter

1357
01:11:53,400 --> 01:11:57,599
Speaker 2: back for a six footer, and it in many ways

1358
01:11:57,720 --> 01:12:01,400
Speaker 2: is like if it goes in, I've got a high

1359
01:12:01,400 --> 01:12:06,439
Speaker 2: paying job, and if it doesn't go in, I don't

1360
01:12:08,240 --> 01:12:12,839
Speaker 2: like good God. And there'd be stories. There'd be stories

1361
01:12:12,840 --> 01:12:15,080
Speaker 2: of guys who literally would stand over that putt for

1362
01:12:15,160 --> 01:12:16,959
Speaker 2: like a minute and a half. It's like they couldn't

1363
01:12:17,360 --> 01:12:19,680
Speaker 2: you couldn't lift the putter up, you couldn't draw it back,

1364
01:12:19,720 --> 01:12:23,080
Speaker 2: because it's like they're so like your life is literally

1365
01:12:23,160 --> 01:12:26,000
Speaker 2: riding on that thing. Man. It's it's it's brutal.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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01:12:26,560 --> 01:12:29,120
Speaker 5: Yeah, the wife is at home watching that, like Uh,

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01:12:29,280 --> 01:12:31,000
Speaker 5: don't come home if you missed that butt.

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01:12:31,120 --> 01:12:32,679
Speaker 4: So, yeah, it gets to that one.

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Speaker 2: I mean, no pressure, but like you know, we could

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Speaker 2: buy a house or or we'll it out of the car.

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01:12:39,040 --> 01:12:42,719
Speaker 3: It's up to you. It breaks left to right right, No, it's.

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Speaker 2: Unbelievable. All right, We're in the tyrack dot Com studios. Uh,

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01:12:48,520 --> 01:12:53,160
Speaker 2: coming up next. We started this conversation last week and

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01:12:53,240 --> 01:12:55,400
Speaker 2: we need to continue it. In my goodness and need

1376
01:12:55,400 --> 01:12:58,240
Speaker 2: to get something a little bit off my chest. MLB

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01:12:58,400 --> 01:13:02,360
Speaker 2: free agency comes into center focus right here on Fox

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01:13:02,400 --> 01:13:07,479
Speaker 2: Sports Radio. Okay with Carrie Rhodes. I'm Mark wellerlive Tyrack

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01:13:07,560 --> 01:13:12,000
Speaker 2: dot Com Studios. Sorry, man, we started this conversation last

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01:13:12,040 --> 01:13:19,040
Speaker 2: week and then just in perfect fashion since then, one

1381
01:13:19,240 --> 01:13:22,639
Speaker 2: of the Boris four has signed. And if you don't

1382
01:13:22,640 --> 01:13:24,800
Speaker 2: know who the Boris four are, this is not like

1383
01:13:24,880 --> 01:13:29,520
Speaker 2: a traveling hiking party. This is This is Cody Bellinger,

1384
01:13:30,400 --> 01:13:35,160
Speaker 2: this is Matt Chapman, this is Jordan Montgomery, and this

1385
01:13:35,320 --> 01:13:40,400
Speaker 2: is Blake Snell. Probably the four biggest name remaining free agents.

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01:13:40,439 --> 01:13:44,560
Speaker 2: In last night, Cody Bellinger signed. And I'm always fascinated

1387
01:13:45,320 --> 01:13:48,360
Speaker 2: when something happens like this because and maybe you know,

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01:13:48,479 --> 01:13:50,920
Speaker 2: can you help me with something. You've been a professional

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01:13:50,960 --> 01:13:54,800
Speaker 2: athlete and signed a free agent contract before, do you

1390
01:13:54,840 --> 01:13:58,120
Speaker 2: and your agent pretty much along with the team, Like,

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01:13:58,160 --> 01:14:01,400
Speaker 2: do you control when that news hits?

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01:14:03,120 --> 01:14:03,320
Speaker 5: Ah?

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01:14:06,160 --> 01:14:08,799
Speaker 4: Yes, the official the official news.

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01:14:09,360 --> 01:14:12,960
Speaker 5: Yes, But I mean there's all the terms and the

1395
01:14:13,040 --> 01:14:16,080
Speaker 5: leaks and all that stuff is real, it happens. But

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01:14:16,160 --> 01:14:19,200
Speaker 5: for the most part, yeah, I mean with my process,

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01:14:19,280 --> 01:14:22,360
Speaker 5: it was, yeah, we're gonna we're gonna be quiet, We're

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01:14:22,360 --> 01:14:24,920
Speaker 5: gonna let the team announce it, and that's how it

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01:14:24,960 --> 01:14:27,200
Speaker 5: was gonna go. Like we weren't gonna leak at any

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01:14:27,200 --> 01:14:29,760
Speaker 5: of that stuff. So we definitely there was a protocol there.

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01:14:30,520 --> 01:14:33,840
Speaker 2: Okay, I mean someone's got control over I mean, you

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01:14:33,880 --> 01:14:36,599
Speaker 2: mentioned there are leaks, but it's like, I mean, at

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01:14:36,640 --> 01:14:39,400
Speaker 2: the core of this, there should only be four or

1404
01:14:39,400 --> 01:14:41,960
Speaker 2: five people that really know what the hell's going on

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01:14:42,080 --> 01:14:45,040
Speaker 2: and when exactly, you know what I mean. Like I

1406
01:14:45,040 --> 01:14:48,120
Speaker 2: think in the fans' mind, they think like Jeff Passen

1407
01:14:48,200 --> 01:14:52,240
Speaker 2: and Adam Schefter are just like there or or they're

1408
01:14:52,400 --> 01:14:54,640
Speaker 2: you know what I mean, Like, no, somebody texts them,

1409
01:14:54,920 --> 01:14:58,320
Speaker 2: somebody text somebody sends them a text message, and then

1410
01:14:58,439 --> 01:15:05,320
Speaker 2: it's on the inner and in the most baseball fashion ever,

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01:15:06,760 --> 01:15:12,880
Speaker 2: We've been waiting on Cody Ballinger for five months and

1412
01:15:13,000 --> 01:15:21,519
Speaker 2: we get it at ten thirty Pacific on a Saturday night. Yeah,

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01:15:21,560 --> 01:15:25,200
Speaker 2: I'm like, you guys don't even understand colors, do you? Like?

1414
01:15:26,760 --> 01:15:33,280
Speaker 2: What the hell are you doing? And by the way,

1415
01:15:33,400 --> 01:15:36,280
Speaker 2: to get to the end of all of that, and

1416
01:15:36,520 --> 01:15:41,519
Speaker 2: that's the contract, three years for eighty million, and he

1417
01:15:41,560 --> 01:15:43,679
Speaker 2: can leave next year if he wants.

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01:15:45,200 --> 01:15:47,280
Speaker 4: I mean he has an opt out as well.

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01:15:47,840 --> 01:15:51,080
Speaker 2: He has two opt outs. He's got one after every year.

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01:15:52,840 --> 01:15:56,000
Speaker 2: Every year is going to an opt out. They thought

1421
01:15:56,040 --> 01:15:57,639
Speaker 2: this was going to be a two hundred and fifty

1422
01:15:57,640 --> 01:16:01,720
Speaker 2: million dollar deal and so now you understand why it

1423
01:16:01,880 --> 01:16:05,479
Speaker 2: ended up being so long because they weren't getting the

1424
01:16:05,520 --> 01:16:06,960
Speaker 2: offered that they wanted.

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01:16:07,000 --> 01:16:10,559
Speaker 3: So I understand that. Yeah, but I sometimes I just.

1426
01:16:10,520 --> 01:16:14,040
Speaker 2: Look at baseball and I'm like, are you even trying

1427
01:16:14,080 --> 01:16:16,160
Speaker 2: to entertain us? Right? Right?

1428
01:16:17,080 --> 01:16:17,240
Speaker 3: Oh?

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01:16:17,320 --> 01:16:20,040
Speaker 5: No, they have no We talked about that last week, right,

1430
01:16:20,080 --> 01:16:24,720
Speaker 5: the old the grandfather on the couch that's definitely accustomed

1431
01:16:24,720 --> 01:16:28,040
Speaker 5: to things the way they are, and we talk about

1432
01:16:28,240 --> 01:16:30,960
Speaker 5: cell phones and we talk about technology, and you know

1433
01:16:31,040 --> 01:16:34,240
Speaker 5: those those heads that say it's bad or we don't

1434
01:16:34,280 --> 01:16:35,840
Speaker 5: want that, or we want to go back to where

1435
01:16:35,880 --> 01:16:39,519
Speaker 5: it was. I mean, baseball is never leaving where it was,

1436
01:16:39,600 --> 01:16:43,240
Speaker 5: it seems like. And they don't really care about the antics,

1437
01:16:43,360 --> 01:16:45,840
Speaker 5: so to speak. They just care about the products, it

1438
01:16:45,880 --> 01:16:49,640
Speaker 5: seems like. And the product has been fine, but the

1439
01:16:50,640 --> 01:16:53,880
Speaker 5: you know, the interest of growing the game just does

1440
01:16:53,960 --> 01:16:54,960
Speaker 5: not exist at all.

1441
01:16:55,640 --> 01:16:57,439
Speaker 2: Well, I mean, all you got to do is watch

1442
01:16:57,479 --> 01:17:00,160
Speaker 2: the NFL. That's all you have to do. Watch what

1443
01:17:00,240 --> 01:17:03,120
Speaker 2: they do year round. I mean, I don't even know

1444
01:17:03,160 --> 01:17:06,280
Speaker 2: how long it is after the Super Bowl before mock

1445
01:17:06,400 --> 01:17:09,880
Speaker 2: drafts are are starting to fire up all over the place,

1446
01:17:10,000 --> 01:17:13,920
Speaker 2: right people, here comes Oh the salary cap number. Look,

1447
01:17:13,960 --> 01:17:16,599
Speaker 2: it's bigger than we thought. Ooh, maybe we can keep

1448
01:17:16,640 --> 01:17:19,200
Speaker 2: this guy. Maybe we can keep that guy. They are

1449
01:17:19,360 --> 01:17:24,599
Speaker 2: experts at keeping the conversation going. Meantime, here's baseball. This

1450
01:17:24,640 --> 01:17:28,720
Speaker 2: is my favorite part. The number one thing we've been

1451
01:17:28,760 --> 01:17:31,360
Speaker 2: hearing about baseball for a number of years now is

1452
01:17:31,400 --> 01:17:37,280
Speaker 2: what we need to attract younger fans. So then they

1453
01:17:37,320 --> 01:17:42,040
Speaker 2: get to free agency and they go, let's wait four months.

1454
01:17:43,840 --> 01:17:46,880
Speaker 2: I don't know, baseball if you've ever met a young

1455
01:17:46,960 --> 01:17:50,240
Speaker 2: person before, but one thing they're not good at.

1456
01:17:50,400 --> 01:17:52,160
Speaker 3: Because they've got three of them that I live with

1457
01:17:53,960 --> 01:17:55,080
Speaker 3: they're not good at waiting.

1458
01:17:57,520 --> 01:18:03,240
Speaker 2: You don't ask children to wait, Dad, can we go play?

1459
01:18:04,280 --> 01:18:07,480
Speaker 2: I'll tell you what sun I got some time next Wednesday.

1460
01:18:09,360 --> 01:18:13,479
Speaker 2: That's not gonna work. That's not gonna work. You can't

1461
01:18:13,680 --> 01:18:16,800
Speaker 2: tell people that you've got something that you refer to

1462
01:18:17,200 --> 01:18:22,040
Speaker 2: as the hot stove in December and then wait until

1463
01:18:22,320 --> 01:18:29,800
Speaker 2: March to actually serve the meal. Everybody left baseball, don't

1464
01:18:29,840 --> 01:18:33,519
Speaker 2: you know that? And then and then my favorite is

1465
01:18:33,880 --> 01:18:37,599
Speaker 2: we finally get a little movement and they tuck it

1466
01:18:37,720 --> 01:18:41,920
Speaker 2: in when all of the young bands are already dead.

1467
01:18:43,840 --> 01:18:46,639
Speaker 2: I'm like, you just the stupidest little things have ever

1468
01:18:46,680 --> 01:18:47,439
Speaker 2: seen in my life.

1469
01:18:47,479 --> 01:18:48,839
Speaker 3: You don't understand anything.

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01:18:49,080 --> 01:18:54,160
Speaker 2: Oh, you're so precious, right, They're adorable at that age, Kerrie.

1471
01:18:54,680 --> 01:18:57,240
Speaker 2: Unfortunately for Rob manfer in that age is like I

1472
01:18:57,240 --> 01:19:00,240
Speaker 2: don't know, sixty eight or something like that. I don't

1473
01:19:00,240 --> 01:19:03,240
Speaker 2: even know how old he is. But it's just it's

1474
01:19:03,439 --> 01:19:06,200
Speaker 2: for me because I love the living hell out of

1475
01:19:06,240 --> 01:19:10,960
Speaker 2: the sport. Yeah, it's so frustrating. It's so frustrating because

1476
01:19:10,960 --> 01:19:15,040
Speaker 2: there's so many things that they could do, and and

1477
01:19:15,080 --> 01:19:18,960
Speaker 2: I do walk away sometimes and I'm like, look a

1478
01:19:19,000 --> 01:19:21,280
Speaker 2: lot of this you brought up that point earlier in

1479
01:19:21,320 --> 01:19:23,679
Speaker 2: the start of the show, like, control what you can control.

1480
01:19:23,720 --> 01:19:25,760
Speaker 2: A lot of this is out of your control. But

1481
01:19:25,880 --> 01:19:28,120
Speaker 2: there's a lot of this that is in Baseball's control,

1482
01:19:28,200 --> 01:19:30,639
Speaker 2: and they just pay it no mind.

1483
01:19:30,760 --> 01:19:33,760
Speaker 5: Mark, Mark, what would be your what would be your

1484
01:19:33,800 --> 01:19:36,040
Speaker 5: approach to it if you were running that league right now?

1485
01:19:36,520 --> 01:19:39,920
Speaker 2: Well, you got to you got to see on both

1486
01:19:40,000 --> 01:19:44,880
Speaker 2: sides of the aisle that you're both the problem. Because

1487
01:19:44,880 --> 01:19:47,519
Speaker 2: Scott Boris has a point when they say, oh, just

1488
01:19:47,640 --> 01:19:51,160
Speaker 2: like make up a free agency deadline, and he's like, well,

1489
01:19:51,240 --> 01:19:54,679
Speaker 2: that doesn't help my players, right Why? Why? Why would

1490
01:19:54,680 --> 01:19:58,200
Speaker 2: I do that? So he's got a point. However, the

1491
01:19:58,280 --> 01:20:00,800
Speaker 2: players have also got to get a little bit more

1492
01:20:00,880 --> 01:20:06,200
Speaker 2: active in terms of taking some of the initiative with

1493
01:20:06,280 --> 01:20:11,439
Speaker 2: regard to entertaining people. They hate each other so much, Carrie,

1494
01:20:12,160 --> 01:20:14,760
Speaker 2: the owners and the players right now, they hate each

1495
01:20:14,760 --> 01:20:17,639
Speaker 2: other so much, and as long as they hate each other,

1496
01:20:17,840 --> 01:20:20,559
Speaker 2: we're all gonna feel it. Oh, got it, got it,

1497
01:20:21,160 --> 01:20:21,960
Speaker 2: That's what I see.

1498
01:20:22,080 --> 01:20:26,400
Speaker 5: Yeah, Yeah, when I watch it, I mean I don't

1499
01:20:26,400 --> 01:20:29,080
Speaker 5: get into any of those small details when it comes

1500
01:20:29,080 --> 01:20:32,960
Speaker 5: to baseball. I only I watched baseball, and especially when

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01:20:32,960 --> 01:20:34,599
Speaker 5: it gets to the playoffs and stuff. Like that, but

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01:20:35,479 --> 01:20:38,439
Speaker 5: as the product, I'm like the little kid. I don't

1503
01:20:38,479 --> 01:20:40,519
Speaker 5: really know either until it's time to know. You know

1504
01:20:40,560 --> 01:20:43,559
Speaker 5: what I mean in that situation, So I would definitely

1505
01:20:43,600 --> 01:20:45,960
Speaker 5: leave that to you because I don't know much about

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01:20:46,080 --> 01:20:47,240
Speaker 5: the inner workings of it.

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01:20:47,479 --> 01:20:49,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, well, a little bit more to be said on

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01:20:49,400 --> 01:20:52,120
Speaker 2: that coming up next than we will, Mark Willard Kerry Rhodes.

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Speaker 2: This is Fox Sports Radio. Yeah, into our final hour.

1510
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Speaker 2: We are still in the shadow of the Super Baseball

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Speaker 2: is coming whether they know it or not, and we're

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Speaker 2: in the throes of the last third for the NBA,

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Speaker 2: We've had some quarterback stuff already on the show, and

1519
01:21:27,320 --> 01:21:31,200
Speaker 2: I'd love to get into some more because the justin

1520
01:21:31,240 --> 01:21:34,559
Speaker 2: Field situation keeps getting more interesting, So we'll do that

1521
01:21:34,640 --> 01:21:36,240
Speaker 2: in a little bit. But just to kind of put

1522
01:21:36,240 --> 01:21:39,040
Speaker 2: a bow on the conversation that we were having with

1523
01:21:39,080 --> 01:21:44,639
Speaker 2: regard to MLB free agency, and where this all sits

1524
01:21:44,680 --> 01:21:48,120
Speaker 2: now is we're going forward. Like I do, take this

1525
01:21:48,600 --> 01:21:52,519
Speaker 2: from the deal that Bellinger just accepted, which is that

1526
01:21:53,439 --> 01:21:57,320
Speaker 2: it looks to me like these guys who have not

1527
01:21:57,560 --> 01:22:02,960
Speaker 2: signed with spring training now fully underway are probably going

1528
01:22:03,000 --> 01:22:06,760
Speaker 2: to have to accept less than what they were expecting.

1529
01:22:06,800 --> 01:22:10,080
Speaker 2: That does give a little bit of a view into

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01:22:10,760 --> 01:22:13,360
Speaker 2: why this is taking so long. But to further explain

1531
01:22:13,400 --> 01:22:16,240
Speaker 2: the point I just made, which is the idea of

1532
01:22:16,439 --> 01:22:21,360
Speaker 2: I think baseball right now there's always angst between players

1533
01:22:21,400 --> 01:22:22,800
Speaker 2: and owners, doesn't matter the sport.

1534
01:22:22,880 --> 01:22:24,519
Speaker 3: I'm sure you felt it when you were in the.

1535
01:22:24,520 --> 01:22:28,240
Speaker 2: NFL, yes, But in baseball right now, I think we're

1536
01:22:28,240 --> 01:22:33,320
Speaker 2: at unprecedented levels of distrust from the players to the

1537
01:22:33,360 --> 01:22:39,920
Speaker 2: owner's constant discussion of collusion. And a number of teams

1538
01:22:39,960 --> 01:22:42,639
Speaker 2: out there, remember we talked about the A's last week.

1539
01:22:43,080 --> 01:22:46,080
Speaker 2: Number of teams out there that aren't even flirting with

1540
01:22:46,200 --> 01:22:52,479
Speaker 2: the idea of trying, which keeps salaries down. And it's

1541
01:22:52,520 --> 01:22:55,000
Speaker 2: almost like with all of the issues that need to

1542
01:22:55,000 --> 01:22:58,880
Speaker 2: be addressed, there's one that no one's thinking about that

1543
01:22:59,000 --> 01:23:02,320
Speaker 2: is the first one that needs to be addressed, which is, listen,

1544
01:23:02,680 --> 01:23:05,880
Speaker 2: I can't make you like each other. It's kind of

1545
01:23:05,920 --> 01:23:09,760
Speaker 2: like being a parent when the kids are fighting. I

1546
01:23:09,800 --> 01:23:13,679
Speaker 2: can't make you like each other, but I can demand

1547
01:23:14,400 --> 01:23:19,040
Speaker 2: certain behavior under this roof. And remember we were talking

1548
01:23:19,040 --> 01:23:22,960
Speaker 2: earlier about Curry and Nikola Jokic. Yes, and one of

1549
01:23:23,000 --> 01:23:24,760
Speaker 2: them looks like he's always having fun and the other

1550
01:23:24,800 --> 01:23:27,400
Speaker 2: ones like, I don't really even care if I'm here.

1551
01:23:28,400 --> 01:23:31,240
Speaker 2: Is kind of the vibe you get. That's the problem

1552
01:23:31,240 --> 01:23:35,920
Speaker 2: with baseball right now is there's such distrust. There's so

1553
01:23:36,000 --> 01:23:40,760
Speaker 2: many issues that are openly being talked about to where

1554
01:23:40,800 --> 01:23:44,160
Speaker 2: the whole thing just kind of feels angry, and in

1555
01:23:44,320 --> 01:23:48,439
Speaker 2: content you can feel that, you can feel that, and

1556
01:23:48,960 --> 01:23:53,120
Speaker 2: so like, I very much have that question for baseball.

1557
01:23:53,280 --> 01:23:55,639
Speaker 2: You want us to have fun, but it doesn't look

1558
01:23:55,720 --> 01:23:59,519
Speaker 2: like you are, So why should I have fun if

1559
01:23:59,520 --> 01:24:00,519
Speaker 2: you're not? Mark?

1560
01:24:00,560 --> 01:24:03,680
Speaker 5: Do you think there's a situation you talk about. We

1561
01:24:03,720 --> 01:24:07,120
Speaker 5: talk about kids, We talk about the childlike nature of

1562
01:24:07,640 --> 01:24:10,880
Speaker 5: I need it now right yep, as a parent or

1563
01:24:10,960 --> 01:24:15,040
Speaker 5: as an owner, there's a situation where I could see

1564
01:24:15,400 --> 01:24:18,840
Speaker 5: them putting putting themselves in one T shirt together, It's

1565
01:24:18,880 --> 01:24:22,160
Speaker 5: called the angry T shirt. And you make them sit

1566
01:24:22,240 --> 01:24:26,599
Speaker 5: there in each other's space without leaving really close talk

1567
01:24:26,640 --> 01:24:29,200
Speaker 5: it out. Let's map this thing out on how it goes.

1568
01:24:29,760 --> 01:24:33,120
Speaker 5: I've seen success with kids being put I've seen this.

1569
01:24:33,360 --> 01:24:35,160
Speaker 5: I saw this quip where these two kids were putting

1570
01:24:35,280 --> 01:24:37,680
Speaker 5: a shirt and whenever they got angry, it's called the

1571
01:24:37,680 --> 01:24:40,120
Speaker 5: angry shirt. That you put them both in the shirt

1572
01:24:40,560 --> 01:24:43,000
Speaker 5: and have them tell each other how much they loved

1573
01:24:43,040 --> 01:24:47,400
Speaker 5: each other and how and how we can do this together.

1574
01:24:47,640 --> 01:24:50,599
Speaker 5: We just love each other and be kind to each other.

1575
01:24:51,160 --> 01:24:54,559
Speaker 5: Maybe that's a situation that Baseball MLB needs right now.

1576
01:24:55,000 --> 01:24:57,680
Speaker 5: A T shirt that puts the owner and the players

1577
01:24:58,240 --> 01:25:01,120
Speaker 5: in the same space and have to figure out a

1578
01:25:01,120 --> 01:25:03,360
Speaker 5: way to make this thing fun and make it work

1579
01:25:03,800 --> 01:25:06,760
Speaker 5: and make it fun for the viewer and the fan

1580
01:25:06,840 --> 01:25:07,439
Speaker 5: to see as well.

1581
01:25:07,960 --> 01:25:12,280
Speaker 2: With Manfred and Scott Morris in a in a medium

1582
01:25:12,320 --> 01:25:16,400
Speaker 2: show medium really close, What do you think I I

1583
01:25:16,720 --> 01:25:20,360
Speaker 2: wish that I was I don't know what's the word like,

1584
01:25:20,479 --> 01:25:24,879
Speaker 2: gullible enough to believe that that that that there's anything

1585
01:25:25,000 --> 01:25:28,120
Speaker 2: possible with that, you know, Yeah, that's this is another

1586
01:25:28,200 --> 01:25:32,360
Speaker 2: example of sometimes adults should look to kids for some

1587
01:25:32,479 --> 01:25:35,400
Speaker 2: advice or sure you know what I mean, because yeah,

1588
01:25:35,479 --> 01:25:37,799
Speaker 2: you're right. You could put two kids in a snuggie

1589
01:25:37,840 --> 01:25:40,040
Speaker 2: in a room, and I bet they'd figure it out.

1590
01:25:40,040 --> 01:25:42,680
Speaker 3: But now I have zero faith that they would do that.

1591
01:25:44,080 --> 01:25:48,080
Speaker 2: And and that because I know what their motivations are

1592
01:25:48,920 --> 01:25:52,599
Speaker 2: and and and what we're talking about right now is

1593
01:25:53,400 --> 01:25:56,679
Speaker 2: is not what they're talking about. I think that they

1594
01:25:56,800 --> 01:26:00,680
Speaker 2: think they've got that part covered, and that's why I

1595
01:26:00,720 --> 01:26:01,320
Speaker 2: bring it up.

1596
01:26:01,520 --> 01:26:03,120
Speaker 3: I'd like to let them know that they don't.

1597
01:26:04,800 --> 01:26:07,360
Speaker 2: They don't. They don't like they think they've got it

1598
01:26:07,400 --> 01:26:12,360
Speaker 2: figured out because certain dollar figures are still where they

1599
01:26:12,400 --> 01:26:15,840
Speaker 2: want them to be. Sports is the best retire you know,

1600
01:26:16,000 --> 01:26:20,240
Speaker 2: reality show out there. So the platforms are going to

1601
01:26:20,280 --> 01:26:24,519
Speaker 2: continue to pay for live sports as long as you

1602
01:26:24,640 --> 01:26:28,840
Speaker 2: raise prices enough, you'll still cover your bottom line at

1603
01:26:28,880 --> 01:26:34,000
Speaker 2: the ballpark, TV network money all of that. And uh.

1604
01:26:34,040 --> 01:26:37,080
Speaker 2: And so when that happens, I think they feel like

1605
01:26:37,120 --> 01:26:37,920
Speaker 2: they're crushing it.

1606
01:26:39,240 --> 01:26:41,400
Speaker 3: And I'm like, but but but you're not.

1607
01:26:42,520 --> 01:26:45,160
Speaker 2: You're not. You may have some data that shows that

1608
01:26:45,640 --> 01:26:49,360
Speaker 2: there's growth here or the finances are covered there, and

1609
01:26:49,720 --> 01:26:52,559
Speaker 2: I understand that. I've actually long said, like, I don't.

1610
01:26:52,880 --> 01:26:57,520
Speaker 2: I don't think baseball's in like this urgent problem situation

1611
01:26:57,600 --> 01:26:59,639
Speaker 2: where it's going to go away in the next handful

1612
01:26:59,640 --> 01:27:02,800
Speaker 2: of years or something like that, right, But I'm I'm

1613
01:27:02,880 --> 01:27:06,639
Speaker 2: just more talking about the vibe. I want to walk

1614
01:27:06,680 --> 01:27:11,519
Speaker 2: into a building and and and feel something and and

1615
01:27:11,720 --> 01:27:15,680
Speaker 2: feel like this is gonna be fun. There's some excitement,

1616
01:27:15,760 --> 01:27:19,439
Speaker 2: there's a buzz. We can't wait to watch what's about

1617
01:27:19,479 --> 01:27:24,200
Speaker 2: to unfold. And uh and baseball is sorely, sorely.

1618
01:27:23,880 --> 01:27:25,040
Speaker 3: Missing that right now.

1619
01:27:25,080 --> 01:27:26,840
Speaker 2: And part of the reason they're missing it is because

1620
01:27:26,920 --> 01:27:29,280
Speaker 2: I don't even think they know they need to address.

1621
01:27:28,920 --> 01:27:31,040
Speaker 5: It, right And I think that's that would be the

1622
01:27:31,880 --> 01:27:34,519
Speaker 5: I think the big scope of what you're saying right now,

1623
01:27:34,560 --> 01:27:39,439
Speaker 5: it's they their bottom line isn't being affected, so it

1624
01:27:39,479 --> 01:27:43,880
Speaker 5: doesn't matter where the NFL in the NBA, obviously, it's

1625
01:27:44,200 --> 01:27:48,080
Speaker 5: they know their fan base, they know what they need

1626
01:27:48,120 --> 01:27:51,240
Speaker 5: to do to they actually put time and effort into

1627
01:27:51,240 --> 01:27:55,360
Speaker 5: figuring out how to further the game. Where baseball is

1628
01:27:55,400 --> 01:27:58,200
Speaker 5: like we we're America's sport and we're always going to

1629
01:27:58,280 --> 01:28:00,760
Speaker 5: be that way. And it's just it kind of lends

1630
01:28:01,040 --> 01:28:03,320
Speaker 5: lends its voice to the same thing we've been talking about,

1631
01:28:03,360 --> 01:28:06,439
Speaker 5: right like, for them, if it isn't broke, don't fix it.

1632
01:28:06,800 --> 01:28:11,240
Speaker 5: Where NBA NFL is like we're killing it, but we

1633
01:28:11,280 --> 01:28:13,519
Speaker 5: can do better and we can do more well.

1634
01:28:13,600 --> 01:28:16,519
Speaker 2: And like, I look at something that resonated this week

1635
01:28:16,560 --> 01:28:19,760
Speaker 2: with fans, and it's odd that it resonated, But the

1636
01:28:19,920 --> 01:28:22,200
Speaker 2: NFL said the salary cap is going to be two

1637
01:28:22,240 --> 01:28:24,360
Speaker 2: hundred and fifty five million. That's more than it was

1638
01:28:24,400 --> 01:28:28,240
Speaker 2: projected to be. And I know fans immediately, like fans

1639
01:28:28,240 --> 01:28:30,679
Speaker 2: are smart now they get this. They're like, okay, hold

1640
01:28:30,720 --> 01:28:32,680
Speaker 2: on a second. That means we can keep blank and

1641
01:28:32,720 --> 01:28:34,760
Speaker 2: we can do this, and we can do that. The

1642
01:28:34,840 --> 01:28:41,240
Speaker 2: salary cap is going up. That's amazing. I know it'll

1643
01:28:41,280 --> 01:28:44,719
Speaker 2: never happen. The union is too strong. I do wonder

1644
01:28:44,800 --> 01:28:47,679
Speaker 2: if baseball could propose something that would even it out.

1645
01:28:48,240 --> 01:28:50,120
Speaker 2: You're never going to get the players to agree to

1646
01:28:50,160 --> 01:28:52,800
Speaker 2: a salary cap, but I wonder if you could at

1647
01:28:52,920 --> 01:28:55,559
Speaker 2: least start the conversation about a salary cap, if you

1648
01:28:55,680 --> 01:29:00,519
Speaker 2: also introduced a very high salary floor. And to me,

1649
01:29:00,680 --> 01:29:04,200
Speaker 2: that's that is the fix. I'm well aware that it

1650
01:29:04,240 --> 01:29:09,240
Speaker 2: won't happen, but that's that's the fix because they think

1651
01:29:09,240 --> 01:29:11,360
Speaker 2: about the issues that would be taken care of. There's

1652
01:29:11,400 --> 01:29:14,719
Speaker 2: two issues that are probably the top two baseball stories

1653
01:29:14,720 --> 01:29:17,160
Speaker 2: that have happened in the last six months. One of

1654
01:29:17,200 --> 01:29:20,360
Speaker 2: them is you got the a's going, We're going to Vegas.

1655
01:29:20,400 --> 01:29:24,479
Speaker 2: But maybe because actually nobody there wants us, maybe you know,

1656
01:29:24,520 --> 01:29:26,439
Speaker 2: maybe we'll talk to Oakland, or maybe we'll play on

1657
01:29:26,520 --> 01:29:29,960
Speaker 2: a high school field in Utah. It's like, and and

1658
01:29:30,120 --> 01:29:33,559
Speaker 2: we're gonna have a payroll of twenty eight point six million.

1659
01:29:34,240 --> 01:29:36,639
Speaker 3: It's like, dude, you need a salary floor.

1660
01:29:37,160 --> 01:29:41,960
Speaker 2: You're being ridiculous and that's holding player salaries down. So

1661
01:29:42,080 --> 01:29:44,920
Speaker 2: create the floor. But you also got to create the

1662
01:29:44,960 --> 01:29:49,000
Speaker 2: top end. Because what the Los Angeles Dodgers did this offseason,

1663
01:29:49,080 --> 01:29:52,400
Speaker 2: I know a lot of people in LA are like, yay, well,

1664
01:29:52,479 --> 01:29:55,800
Speaker 2: what you just created was very much a college football feel.

1665
01:29:56,800 --> 01:29:58,640
Speaker 2: And and for those of you listening to us on

1666
01:29:58,680 --> 01:30:01,559
Speaker 2: the East coast, let me tell you what the West

1667
01:30:01,640 --> 01:30:06,880
Speaker 2: Coast thinks of college football. They don't they don't, they

1668
01:30:06,960 --> 01:30:12,040
Speaker 2: don't care because every year, and it was awesome that

1669
01:30:12,280 --> 01:30:15,080
Speaker 2: Washington did what they did this year, really cool. There

1670
01:30:15,120 --> 01:30:18,839
Speaker 2: are exceptions, but for the most part, it's the Clemson

1671
01:30:18,880 --> 01:30:22,080
Speaker 2: Alabama Bowl at the end of the year, and nobody

1672
01:30:22,080 --> 01:30:24,400
Speaker 2: out of here cares because you're not playing on an

1673
01:30:24,439 --> 01:30:27,559
Speaker 2: even field. So when you're like, we got the best

1674
01:30:27,640 --> 01:30:29,479
Speaker 2: player in the history of the game. He's a two

1675
01:30:29,520 --> 01:30:32,920
Speaker 2: way star. We're gonna pay him eight dollars and uh

1676
01:30:32,960 --> 01:30:35,000
Speaker 2: but but but it's okay because we're gonna pay him

1677
01:30:35,000 --> 01:30:37,479
Speaker 2: a billion dollars twenty years from now. Yeah.

1678
01:30:37,520 --> 01:30:39,360
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, you're playing.

1679
01:30:39,080 --> 01:30:41,320
Speaker 2: Within the rules. But the rules shouldn't be that way

1680
01:30:41,360 --> 01:30:44,320
Speaker 2: because that's what you're doing. You're creating Alabama against the

1681
01:30:44,360 --> 01:30:47,639
Speaker 2: Citadel and then acting like you won when you kick

1682
01:30:47,680 --> 01:30:50,160
Speaker 2: everybody's butt. I get that.

1683
01:30:50,400 --> 01:30:53,880
Speaker 5: Yeah, that's that's very that's crazy because I remember, yeah,

1684
01:30:53,920 --> 01:30:58,559
Speaker 5: when seeing show Hayes contract and then seeing the I

1685
01:30:58,600 --> 01:31:02,640
Speaker 5: guess the dynamics of it, it was like what you

1686
01:31:02,640 --> 01:31:05,400
Speaker 5: saw having the questions of right, wait, is he being

1687
01:31:05,479 --> 01:31:08,240
Speaker 5: smart here? Or is he saving money? Is he doing

1688
01:31:08,280 --> 01:31:11,120
Speaker 5: I'm started thinking that. My brain is like, huh, maybe

1689
01:31:11,160 --> 01:31:13,040
Speaker 5: it's a tax a tax thing, you know. I saw

1690
01:31:13,080 --> 01:31:16,840
Speaker 5: it going down that down that rabbit hole, but I

1691
01:31:16,960 --> 01:31:19,519
Speaker 5: have no idea. And the fact that he signed a

1692
01:31:19,560 --> 01:31:22,679
Speaker 5: deal obviously it was a big deal here, but it's

1693
01:31:23,000 --> 01:31:25,400
Speaker 5: it's old news now. Nobody's even talking about it. If

1694
01:31:25,400 --> 01:31:27,679
Speaker 5: you think about it, like, what do you think Jerry

1695
01:31:27,720 --> 01:31:31,799
Speaker 5: Jones thought of that deal? Got He's got the richest

1696
01:31:31,880 --> 01:31:36,040
Speaker 5: franchise in all of American sport. If he could play

1697
01:31:36,080 --> 01:31:39,960
Speaker 5: by those rules, he'd win all the Super Bowls, right,

1698
01:31:41,000 --> 01:31:43,639
Speaker 5: he'd win all of them because he would just buy

1699
01:31:44,439 --> 01:31:46,760
Speaker 5: all of the super Bowls. And in the NFL, much

1700
01:31:46,800 --> 01:31:49,640
Speaker 5: more than baseball, you could probably kind of do it.

1701
01:31:50,600 --> 01:31:50,800
Speaker 3: Right.

1702
01:31:50,920 --> 01:31:55,080
Speaker 2: The Golden State Warriors are the top valuation NBA team.

1703
01:31:55,640 --> 01:31:59,160
Speaker 2: How did you all feel when Durant was on the team, right,

1704
01:32:00,080 --> 01:32:04,360
Speaker 2: and what if? What if when they had Durant, they're like, yeah,

1705
01:32:04,400 --> 01:32:09,040
Speaker 2: we're getting Lebron too, because we're gonna defer all of

1706
01:32:09,040 --> 01:32:12,320
Speaker 2: it until twenty thirty eight, exactly like you would have

1707
01:32:12,320 --> 01:32:15,559
Speaker 2: thought it was ridiculous. But in baseball you can do

1708
01:32:15,680 --> 01:32:19,840
Speaker 2: that and everyone's like, huh, that's interesting, Like, no, it's

1709
01:32:19,880 --> 01:32:23,479
Speaker 2: not terrible. It's absolutely terrible for your sport. Right, the

1710
01:32:23,880 --> 01:32:26,439
Speaker 2: Dodgers will play the A's and and and and there

1711
01:32:26,439 --> 01:32:28,840
Speaker 2: will be fans who are like, and the Dodgers beat them.

1712
01:32:28,920 --> 01:32:32,639
Speaker 2: Oh god, of course you did. Like you're not even

1713
01:32:32,680 --> 01:32:36,519
Speaker 2: playing the same sport, right, so, and that's the fix

1714
01:32:36,720 --> 01:32:40,080
Speaker 2: and it'll never happen. I feel bad for you, guys.

1715
01:32:41,720 --> 01:32:43,640
Speaker 5: I could feel bad way Mark, Mark, No, I do,

1716
01:32:44,560 --> 01:32:47,280
Speaker 5: because that's your sport and you're.

1717
01:32:47,160 --> 01:32:48,360
Speaker 3: It's one of them.

1718
01:32:48,439 --> 01:32:50,360
Speaker 2: I'm pretty even, Stephen with all you are, but I

1719
01:32:50,479 --> 01:32:53,640
Speaker 2: do yeah, yeah, but I love baseball. I'll never not

1720
01:32:53,800 --> 01:32:58,120
Speaker 2: love baseball. But they make it hard sometimes they really do.

1721
01:32:59,760 --> 01:33:03,519
Speaker 2: The ones don't. So we'll we'll stick there the rest

1722
01:33:03,520 --> 01:33:05,599
Speaker 2: of the way. By the way, shortly after the show,

1723
01:33:05,840 --> 01:33:08,240
Speaker 2: our podcast will be going up. If you missed any

1724
01:33:08,280 --> 01:33:10,439
Speaker 2: of today's show, be sure to check out the podcast.

1725
01:33:10,520 --> 01:33:13,200
Speaker 2: All you have to do is search Fox Sports Radio

1726
01:33:13,479 --> 01:33:15,519
Speaker 2: wherever you get your podcasts, and then be sure.

1727
01:33:15,320 --> 01:33:17,799
Speaker 3: To follow and rate and review and all that good stuff.

1728
01:33:18,080 --> 01:33:21,040
Speaker 2: Again, just search Fox Sports Radio wherever you get your podcasts.

1729
01:33:21,080 --> 01:33:24,040
Speaker 2: You'll see this one posted right after we get off

1730
01:33:24,080 --> 01:33:26,879
Speaker 2: the air and hand it over to Plank and Spaniard.

1731
01:33:26,920 --> 01:33:29,960
Speaker 2: But nowhere near done yet with Kerry Rhodes, Mark Willard

1732
01:33:29,960 --> 01:33:32,839
Speaker 2: and coming up next, let's check in on Justin Fields

1733
01:33:32,840 --> 01:33:36,200
Speaker 2: and the Bears after the latest developments, because they're pretty interesting.

1734
01:33:36,600 --> 01:33:38,160
Speaker 3: That's next on Fox Sports Radio.

1735
01:33:39,320 --> 01:33:44,280
Speaker 2: All right, we're live inthetire RAG dot Com Studios, Mark

1736
01:33:44,439 --> 01:33:46,360
Speaker 2: sid Kerry Rhodes, Mark Willard, You hit me.

1737
01:33:46,400 --> 01:33:50,400
Speaker 4: I gotta tell you man. Everybody move yo body.

1738
01:33:50,720 --> 01:33:52,680
Speaker 5: Yeah, that's my song, right den Mark. That takes me

1739
01:33:52,720 --> 01:33:56,000
Speaker 5: back to when I was nine years old. You know,

1740
01:33:56,240 --> 01:33:58,000
Speaker 5: if you've heard a song that just like takes you

1741
01:33:58,120 --> 01:34:02,160
Speaker 5: back to a point, a point of place in your

1742
01:34:02,200 --> 01:34:06,040
Speaker 5: life where it's his Han's magical. This one was playing

1743
01:34:06,080 --> 01:34:08,519
Speaker 5: I can literally smell the grass when I was nine

1744
01:34:08,560 --> 01:34:13,280
Speaker 5: playing football and running out to the Central Park Chargers

1745
01:34:13,280 --> 01:34:16,200
Speaker 5: my first football game as a kid. And it really does.

1746
01:34:16,360 --> 01:34:19,719
Speaker 5: I'm getting emotional thinking about it. That's a great song, Mary, Mary.

1747
01:34:19,840 --> 01:34:21,599
Speaker 5: In fact, they're playing the music right now.

1748
01:34:21,960 --> 01:34:25,400
Speaker 2: First of all, I think in our last two shows together,

1749
01:34:26,080 --> 01:34:28,240
Speaker 2: no less than four times have you been like, this

1750
01:34:28,280 --> 01:34:32,120
Speaker 2: is my song. So you got a lot of songs.

1751
01:34:33,479 --> 01:34:37,400
Speaker 2: That's cool. The other thing is for my birthday last month,

1752
01:34:37,439 --> 01:34:42,080
Speaker 2: the kids got me the Amazon smart speaker, right, the

1753
01:34:42,120 --> 01:34:47,080
Speaker 2: Alexa yep, and then they put this this thing called

1754
01:34:47,200 --> 01:34:50,080
Speaker 2: song Quiz on it. I guess for a few bucks

1755
01:34:50,120 --> 01:34:53,320
Speaker 2: a month you can play song Quiz. And so it's

1756
01:34:53,320 --> 01:34:56,320
Speaker 2: actually been fun little game that's brought us all together

1757
01:34:56,360 --> 01:34:58,559
Speaker 2: into the living room. Wow. You can like set the

1758
01:34:58,720 --> 01:35:02,439
Speaker 2: yet right, you can set the deck and it's really

1759
01:35:02,479 --> 01:35:05,880
Speaker 2: fun when they're willing to be like, okay, Alexa, do

1760
01:35:06,120 --> 01:35:10,160
Speaker 2: songs from the eighties or the nineties, because I'm like

1761
01:35:10,680 --> 01:35:12,960
Speaker 2: you all am not going to know any of these songs, right,

1762
01:35:13,560 --> 01:35:17,200
Speaker 2: and I'm going to know all of these songs and

1763
01:35:17,400 --> 01:35:20,439
Speaker 2: uh yeah, man, I mean every other song is bringing

1764
01:35:20,520 --> 01:35:22,720
Speaker 2: me back, putting me into the hallways of the high

1765
01:35:22,760 --> 01:35:25,080
Speaker 2: school and everywhere, man, everywhere.

1766
01:35:25,320 --> 01:35:28,280
Speaker 5: Next time you guys played zoom, FaceTime me so I

1767
01:35:28,320 --> 01:35:29,559
Speaker 5: can be a part of this game.

1768
01:35:31,200 --> 01:35:33,320
Speaker 2: It's good. The only time it's not good is when

1769
01:35:33,320 --> 01:35:36,160
Speaker 2: they're like, all right, let's do today's top hits. Oh yeah,

1770
01:35:36,200 --> 01:35:40,759
Speaker 2: and then I'm like, I don't know any of these

1771
01:35:41,000 --> 01:35:42,360
Speaker 2: even if I've heard them.

1772
01:35:42,760 --> 01:35:45,280
Speaker 3: I'm like, yes, I know this song, but I don't

1773
01:35:45,280 --> 01:35:45,920
Speaker 3: know who that is.

1774
01:35:45,960 --> 01:35:48,639
Speaker 2: I don't like I mean, like Drake, I can get Drake,

1775
01:35:48,720 --> 01:35:52,519
Speaker 2: I know his voice. Everybody else like I don't know

1776
01:35:52,680 --> 01:35:58,000
Speaker 2: I'm gonna know who's tracked that. But anyway, okay, glad

1777
01:35:58,000 --> 01:36:00,560
Speaker 2: you're with us, graduate with us. I thought this was

1778
01:36:00,600 --> 01:36:06,320
Speaker 2: one of the funniest examples of people in the public

1779
01:36:06,400 --> 01:36:10,080
Speaker 2: eye who say the things they say, and I always

1780
01:36:10,120 --> 01:36:12,000
Speaker 2: want to be like, who do you think you're talking to?

1781
01:36:13,000 --> 01:36:16,559
Speaker 2: I love it, I love well. Justin Fields unfollowed the

1782
01:36:16,560 --> 01:36:20,360
Speaker 2: Bears and the NFL because because Carrie, he wanted to

1783
01:36:20,640 --> 01:36:21,439
Speaker 2: get a little.

1784
01:36:21,240 --> 01:36:24,439
Speaker 3: Time away on his timeline, like I have an idea.

1785
01:36:24,439 --> 01:36:26,959
Speaker 2: If you want time away, just go away from your timeline,

1786
01:36:27,080 --> 01:36:30,200
Speaker 2: like you don't. You don't need to unfollow people. And

1787
01:36:30,600 --> 01:36:33,080
Speaker 2: here here's always my barometer. Because people were like, well,

1788
01:36:33,080 --> 01:36:35,080
Speaker 2: how do you know why? You know why he did

1789
01:36:35,120 --> 01:36:39,160
Speaker 2: what he did. Here's here's how I know. If you're

1790
01:36:39,200 --> 01:36:44,120
Speaker 2: the quarterback of a National Football League team, there are

1791
01:36:44,280 --> 01:36:51,120
Speaker 2: thirty two of you in the world. You are keenly

1792
01:36:51,360 --> 01:36:58,640
Speaker 2: aware of the attention that your actions create. This is

1793
01:36:58,800 --> 01:37:02,040
Speaker 2: not something where you're like, I'll unfollow the bears and

1794
01:37:02,080 --> 01:37:08,080
Speaker 2: I bet nobody will notice, nobody will know. So if

1795
01:37:08,160 --> 01:37:12,120
Speaker 2: your goal was to get time away from your timeline

1796
01:37:13,000 --> 01:37:18,720
Speaker 2: and not think about sports or work or any of

1797
01:37:18,720 --> 01:37:22,320
Speaker 2: that stuff, well, then unfollowing the bears is the last

1798
01:37:22,320 --> 01:37:25,640
Speaker 2: thing you would do, because that's exactly what it's going

1799
01:37:25,720 --> 01:37:34,160
Speaker 2: to bring directly to your lap, which is attention, questions, discussions, worry, concern, drama,

1800
01:37:34,760 --> 01:37:36,880
Speaker 2: all of those things that you say you're trying to

1801
01:37:36,920 --> 01:37:40,280
Speaker 2: get away from if you really just wanted to get

1802
01:37:40,320 --> 01:37:43,519
Speaker 2: away from it all. All of these devices have these

1803
01:37:43,560 --> 01:37:47,439
Speaker 2: little buttons on them. You push the button and they

1804
01:37:47,520 --> 01:37:50,040
Speaker 2: turn off. I've tried it. It's amazing.

1805
01:37:50,880 --> 01:37:53,360
Speaker 3: So you just turn them off and then you go

1806
01:37:53,400 --> 01:37:54,640
Speaker 3: on with your day.

1807
01:37:54,760 --> 01:37:59,160
Speaker 2: So I buy not for one second that there wasn't

1808
01:37:59,240 --> 01:38:00,960
Speaker 2: a message being sent with that.

1809
01:38:01,520 --> 01:38:03,479
Speaker 5: Yeah, I'm with you on now when you can definitely

1810
01:38:03,520 --> 01:38:06,000
Speaker 5: just take a hiatus if you need it. You don't

1811
01:38:06,000 --> 01:38:09,400
Speaker 5: have to click that button and go and see anything

1812
01:38:09,439 --> 01:38:11,559
Speaker 5: on the timeline if you wanted to, if you really

1813
01:38:11,600 --> 01:38:12,000
Speaker 5: wanted to.

1814
01:38:12,560 --> 01:38:13,240
Speaker 4: So I'm with you.

1815
01:38:13,280 --> 01:38:16,320
Speaker 5: I think there was a message being set there. We

1816
01:38:16,320 --> 01:38:20,360
Speaker 5: don't know what the talks have been obviously, and again

1817
01:38:20,400 --> 01:38:24,800
Speaker 5: we talked about earlier, we talked about contracts and contract

1818
01:38:24,920 --> 01:38:28,280
Speaker 5: leaks being put out there or information being out there

1819
01:38:28,280 --> 01:38:32,120
Speaker 5: before it's actually sign sealed and delivered, so we know that.

1820
01:38:32,160 --> 01:38:35,840
Speaker 5: We know they've had conversations that probably he didn't like

1821
01:38:35,880 --> 01:38:38,679
Speaker 5: that day, that's what it seems like, and he wanted

1822
01:38:38,680 --> 01:38:41,559
Speaker 5: to send the message back. Being a young guy obviously,

1823
01:38:41,800 --> 01:38:43,760
Speaker 5: if he was a little older here, he probably would

1824
01:38:43,800 --> 01:38:48,040
Speaker 5: have handled it differently. It just screams agent or somebody

1825
01:38:48,080 --> 01:38:49,720
Speaker 5: close to him said he needs to go out and

1826
01:38:49,800 --> 01:38:52,360
Speaker 5: get and do some damage control at this point.

1827
01:38:52,360 --> 01:38:54,080
Speaker 4: But I agree with you right now.

1828
01:38:54,360 --> 01:38:58,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, I like that there's something there. Somebody said something

1829
01:38:58,320 --> 01:39:00,960
Speaker 2: or hid something that just didn't. It did not sit

1830
01:39:01,040 --> 01:39:03,320
Speaker 2: well with him. I have no idea what it is.

1831
01:39:03,479 --> 01:39:06,320
Speaker 2: Maybe it's even just the lack of them kind of

1832
01:39:06,320 --> 01:39:08,200
Speaker 2: coming out and having his back.

1833
01:39:08,479 --> 01:39:11,559
Speaker 3: After the way his career has started.

1834
01:39:11,560 --> 01:39:14,439
Speaker 2: There, there have been injuries, there's been a lot of

1835
01:39:14,479 --> 01:39:18,840
Speaker 2: turnover on the coaching staff. I think it's fair to

1836
01:39:18,920 --> 01:39:21,960
Speaker 2: have one opinion or the other with regard to Justin

1837
01:39:22,000 --> 01:39:24,600
Speaker 2: Fields and whether or not the Bears keep him or

1838
01:39:24,840 --> 01:39:27,000
Speaker 2: or move on with all the draft capital they have,

1839
01:39:27,200 --> 01:39:33,240
Speaker 2: Like there's a discussion to be had there. But this,

1840
01:39:33,240 --> 01:39:37,240
Speaker 2: this to me, comes from the the lack of backing,

1841
01:39:37,600 --> 01:39:44,160
Speaker 2: the lack of anything public that states justin you're our guy. Yeah,

1842
01:39:44,240 --> 01:39:46,400
Speaker 2: and and and I get that that that that that

1843
01:39:46,479 --> 01:39:47,800
Speaker 2: makes that makes total sense to me.

1844
01:39:47,960 --> 01:39:50,599
Speaker 5: Yeah, when you're when you're that age and you're you've

1845
01:39:50,640 --> 01:39:54,599
Speaker 5: been highly talented your whole career, your whole life. Your

1846
01:39:54,600 --> 01:39:57,720
Speaker 5: ego has been stoked for you know, since since you

1847
01:39:57,720 --> 01:39:59,559
Speaker 5: were a kid. And I'm sure it's in his in

1848
01:39:59,600 --> 01:40:02,479
Speaker 5: his world, well, I mean when he was a little guy.

1849
01:40:02,560 --> 01:40:05,160
Speaker 5: So you've been been you've been told that you're the

1850
01:40:05,200 --> 01:40:07,439
Speaker 5: best for so long and you've gotten that support, you've

1851
01:40:07,479 --> 01:40:14,479
Speaker 5: gotten that that that level of accountability from others towards

1852
01:40:14,520 --> 01:40:17,760
Speaker 5: your game being as highly as you think your game is,

1853
01:40:17,800 --> 01:40:20,479
Speaker 5: and to habit to be in a situation right now

1854
01:40:20,520 --> 01:40:22,920
Speaker 5: where that's not being the case. It'll be a slap

1855
01:40:22,960 --> 01:40:24,840
Speaker 5: across the face for the ego. So I'm sure he's

1856
01:40:24,840 --> 01:40:28,760
Speaker 5: feeling a certain way about it. What would you do

1857
01:40:29,120 --> 01:40:32,640
Speaker 5: if you're the Bears? Ooh, that's a great question for me.

1858
01:40:32,960 --> 01:40:36,160
Speaker 5: I would I'm a firm believer in that he can play,

1859
01:40:36,360 --> 01:40:38,960
Speaker 5: and with the with the draft capital that they already have,

1860
01:40:39,720 --> 01:40:41,920
Speaker 5: and with that number one pick, trading that pick and

1861
01:40:41,960 --> 01:40:43,920
Speaker 5: going down and actually getting another first round or a

1862
01:40:43,920 --> 01:40:47,160
Speaker 5: couple more picks there to add to that to what

1863
01:40:47,200 --> 01:40:49,719
Speaker 5: they have. Because I think for the last two years,

1864
01:40:49,720 --> 01:40:52,559
Speaker 5: even though he's had up and down seasons, down the

1865
01:40:52,560 --> 01:40:56,040
Speaker 5: stretch when things are going well, in both years, to

1866
01:40:56,080 --> 01:40:58,120
Speaker 5: close out the years, they played well and he looked

1867
01:40:58,120 --> 01:41:01,320
Speaker 5: like he was way more than capable, I mean, even

1868
01:41:01,360 --> 01:41:05,519
Speaker 5: teetering on being really good. So I think you surround

1869
01:41:05,600 --> 01:41:08,599
Speaker 5: him with the best coaching, let him prove it. He's

1870
01:41:08,640 --> 01:41:10,760
Speaker 5: going to be still going to be cheaper at this

1871
01:41:10,800 --> 01:41:13,320
Speaker 5: I mean, at this point, he's still you know, you're

1872
01:41:13,320 --> 01:41:15,320
Speaker 5: gonna want to sign him in the year in a

1873
01:41:15,439 --> 01:41:18,960
Speaker 5: year from now, probably a contract extension, but have him

1874
01:41:18,960 --> 01:41:20,599
Speaker 5: played out. I know he's good enough and you can

1875
01:41:20,640 --> 01:41:22,280
Speaker 5: add some players to really help him.

1876
01:41:22,320 --> 01:41:24,799
Speaker 4: So for me, that would be my approach.

1877
01:41:25,040 --> 01:41:26,880
Speaker 5: I mean, you can go, you can take another swing

1878
01:41:26,920 --> 01:41:29,439
Speaker 5: and get trying to get that guy again with Caleb Williams.

1879
01:41:29,439 --> 01:41:32,000
Speaker 5: But we won't know, right, We won't know what he

1880
01:41:32,080 --> 01:41:35,000
Speaker 5: is until he gets there. Yeah, So that's my stands.

1881
01:41:35,040 --> 01:41:38,320
Speaker 2: What about yours, Well, yeah, I'm pretty much with you here.

1882
01:41:38,360 --> 01:41:39,639
Speaker 3: Here's here's what I think.

1883
01:41:40,840 --> 01:41:45,320
Speaker 2: I think that every single draft pick is a complete

1884
01:41:45,479 --> 01:41:49,040
Speaker 2: and total unknown. Yep, as much as people no, no, no, no,

1885
01:41:49,200 --> 01:41:52,920
Speaker 2: but this one Mark, but this one. No, they're all

1886
01:41:53,640 --> 01:41:59,200
Speaker 2: total unknowns. And even if they work out, that's going

1887
01:41:59,280 --> 01:42:02,479
Speaker 2: to take some time. I don't think that organization or

1888
01:42:02,520 --> 01:42:05,559
Speaker 2: fan base has the appetite for that right now, nor

1889
01:42:05,640 --> 01:42:08,280
Speaker 2: should they. And here's the other thing that I think.

1890
01:42:08,960 --> 01:42:11,000
Speaker 2: I think if you trade justin Fields, he's going to

1891
01:42:11,000 --> 01:42:14,040
Speaker 2: be a star. I think he's going to be an

1892
01:42:14,240 --> 01:42:19,800
Speaker 2: absolute star. I think that that is a guy, if

1893
01:42:19,880 --> 01:42:24,759
Speaker 2: given the right things around him, can really really thrive.

1894
01:42:24,800 --> 01:42:28,920
Speaker 2: And that's really true for just about every quarterback. You know,

1895
01:42:29,040 --> 01:42:31,760
Speaker 2: the narrative all year old well brock Perty's got all

1896
01:42:31,760 --> 01:42:34,639
Speaker 2: this stuff around him. They all need stuff around him, Yes,

1897
01:42:35,040 --> 01:42:37,080
Speaker 2: they all need stuff around him. You don't think Joe

1898
01:42:37,160 --> 01:42:40,760
Speaker 2: Burrow's got a good receiving corps for God's sakes, right, like,

1899
01:42:41,320 --> 01:42:43,960
Speaker 2: I mean, hello, like they need stuff around him. And

1900
01:42:44,000 --> 01:42:47,080
Speaker 2: if you put Justin Fields in an environment, I mean

1901
01:42:47,120 --> 01:42:49,479
Speaker 2: that guy in his entire career has had one wide

1902
01:42:49,479 --> 01:42:53,800
Speaker 2: receiver for one year and he only played for ten

1903
01:42:53,880 --> 01:42:57,920
Speaker 2: of the games. And by the way, that receiver went

1904
01:42:57,960 --> 01:43:01,599
Speaker 2: off for well over a thousand yards. So I think

1905
01:43:01,640 --> 01:43:04,680
Speaker 2: that you got to use that draft capital to go

1906
01:43:04,760 --> 01:43:07,000
Speaker 2: a different direction. If Justin Fields ends up on the

1907
01:43:07,000 --> 01:43:09,360
Speaker 2: Atlanta Falcons this year, watch out.

1908
01:43:09,479 --> 01:43:11,439
Speaker 4: Yeah, I agree.

1909
01:43:11,479 --> 01:43:15,559
Speaker 5: And that's the thing we talk about in this age now,

1910
01:43:15,600 --> 01:43:17,360
Speaker 5: in this social media age, and this what have you

1911
01:43:17,439 --> 01:43:18,479
Speaker 5: done for me right now?

1912
01:43:18,520 --> 01:43:18,840
Speaker 2: Age?

1913
01:43:18,960 --> 01:43:20,760
Speaker 5: Not even what have you done for me lately? It's

1914
01:43:21,160 --> 01:43:23,120
Speaker 5: what have you done for me now? People are so

1915
01:43:23,360 --> 01:43:25,120
Speaker 5: quit the jump ship. I mean, you can look at

1916
01:43:25,120 --> 01:43:29,960
Speaker 5: a guy like Baker Mayfield right even on a tier lower,

1917
01:43:30,040 --> 01:43:32,280
Speaker 5: I could say of what the potential could be like

1918
01:43:32,360 --> 01:43:35,559
Speaker 5: with the Justin Fields. But you know, he gets he

1919
01:43:35,600 --> 01:43:38,439
Speaker 5: has a good year in Cleveland, takes him to the playoffs.

1920
01:43:38,479 --> 01:43:40,120
Speaker 5: The next year it doesn't go well, and then you

1921
01:43:40,280 --> 01:43:44,160
Speaker 5: just kind of bullish on bringing them back now and

1922
01:43:44,200 --> 01:43:45,880
Speaker 5: you want to get rid of him. And he's not

1923
01:43:46,000 --> 01:43:48,320
Speaker 5: the guy. He's not the answer. He bounces around a

1924
01:43:48,360 --> 01:43:51,680
Speaker 5: little bit, but ends up in a situation where he

1925
01:43:51,760 --> 01:43:54,799
Speaker 5: has receivers, he has players that can play in Tampa

1926
01:43:55,160 --> 01:43:56,320
Speaker 5: does what does he do?

1927
01:43:56,479 --> 01:43:56,679
Speaker 2: Yeah?

1928
01:43:56,680 --> 01:44:00,200
Speaker 5: But a great year takes Tampa to the playoffs, day

1929
01:44:00,479 --> 01:44:03,880
Speaker 5: exceed expectations, and he's about to get paid again. So

1930
01:44:04,320 --> 01:44:06,920
Speaker 5: I mean that's stuff like that happens all the time.

1931
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Speaker 2: It does, it does? I mean Matthew Stafford changed elevated,

1932
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Speaker 2: you know, Jared Goff. I guess now you could say

1933
01:44:15,600 --> 01:44:20,000
Speaker 2: changed elevated. It hasn't been amazing, but like Gino, Smith

1934
01:44:20,640 --> 01:44:23,120
Speaker 2: was left for dead, right, he didn't right back and

1935
01:44:23,160 --> 01:44:25,880
Speaker 2: the whole thing. And now he's he's at least to

1936
01:44:25,920 --> 01:44:31,320
Speaker 2: a degree, thriving as an NFL starter. Yeah, more to

1937
01:44:31,360 --> 01:44:34,040
Speaker 2: get to on all of this, but let's get Steve

1938
01:44:34,080 --> 01:44:36,240
Speaker 2: to say, you're in here, find out what's trending?

1939
01:44:36,280 --> 01:44:38,320
Speaker 3: Steve, what is shaken?

1940
01:44:38,520 --> 01:44:42,200
Speaker 8: The NFL scouting combine does start Monday on field drills

1941
01:44:42,240 --> 01:44:45,200
Speaker 8: begin on Thursday, but when the quarterbacks are working at

1942
01:44:45,200 --> 01:44:48,479
Speaker 8: this Saturday. Caleb Williams will not be among them. In fact,

1943
01:44:48,880 --> 01:44:52,320
Speaker 8: NFL Network reporting that the USC quarterback, although he's not

1944
01:44:52,400 --> 01:44:55,320
Speaker 8: expected to throw this week, will wait until his pro

1945
01:44:55,479 --> 01:44:58,479
Speaker 8: day at USC to throw and work out for teams.

1946
01:44:58,520 --> 01:45:01,719
Speaker 8: But Williams is expected to be in attendance this week

1947
01:45:02,040 --> 01:45:06,360
Speaker 8: at the Combine. Same for quarterback Jayden Daniels. LSU plans

1948
01:45:06,400 --> 01:45:09,280
Speaker 8: to throw at his pro day rather than at the Combine,

1949
01:45:09,439 --> 01:45:12,240
Speaker 8: but he'll be an Indy for interviews and meetings. Just

1950
01:45:12,280 --> 01:45:15,080
Speaker 8: not work out this week. Well, you mentioned Mark that

1951
01:45:15,120 --> 01:45:18,120
Speaker 8: you saw a Charlotte team in the NBA on Friday.

1952
01:45:18,200 --> 01:45:21,000
Speaker 8: This is an NBA team I must emphasize that scored

1953
01:45:21,040 --> 01:45:24,439
Speaker 8: twenty nine points in the first half. They are playing

1954
01:45:24,520 --> 01:45:27,759
Speaker 8: at Portland tonight and the Blazers, frankly are not much better.

1955
01:45:28,479 --> 01:45:31,200
Speaker 8: And the Blazer scored thirty four points in the first

1956
01:45:31,280 --> 01:45:34,760
Speaker 8: half tonight. O Portland just got a bucket to get

1957
01:45:34,840 --> 01:45:37,479
Speaker 8: up to fifty. Whereas we're winding down the third quarter

1958
01:45:37,560 --> 01:45:41,200
Speaker 8: now late third Hornets up sixty three point fifty against

1959
01:45:41,200 --> 01:45:44,599
Speaker 8: a Blazer's team that's lost seven in a row. Anthony

1960
01:45:44,640 --> 01:45:48,080
Speaker 8: Simons is two of seventeen shooting from the floor. The

1961
01:45:48,120 --> 01:45:52,760
Speaker 8: Blazers as a team have one three point make in

1962
01:45:52,800 --> 01:45:56,599
Speaker 8: the game, one for twenty oh from long distance so far,

1963
01:45:58,160 --> 01:46:00,280
Speaker 8: so if the Hornets win, their record will will be

1964
01:46:00,400 --> 01:46:04,479
Speaker 8: fifteen and forty two. Portland's record will be fifteen and

1965
01:46:04,600 --> 01:46:08,799
Speaker 8: forty one. San Antonio is now eleven and forty seven

1966
01:46:09,080 --> 01:46:11,639
Speaker 8: after losing at Utah one twenty eight to one oh nine.

1967
01:46:11,760 --> 01:46:14,280
Speaker 8: Utah had lost five straight until they got to host

1968
01:46:14,320 --> 01:46:16,719
Speaker 8: the Spurs tonight, and the late game is late first

1969
01:46:16,720 --> 01:46:19,599
Speaker 8: half in LA, Kings ahead of the Clippers fifty to

1970
01:46:19,720 --> 01:46:23,080
Speaker 8: forty four, James Harden from three point range one of

1971
01:46:23,160 --> 01:46:26,280
Speaker 8: six for LA, and Paul George's out with a sore knee.

1972
01:46:26,400 --> 01:46:29,120
Speaker 8: Oklahoma City won it's fifth in a row one twenty three,

1973
01:46:29,240 --> 01:46:32,920
Speaker 8: one ten at Houston Shay Gilgos Alexander thirty six points,

1974
01:46:33,160 --> 01:46:37,120
Speaker 8: Denver's Nicola Jokic with another triple double. It included sixteen

1975
01:46:37,160 --> 01:46:40,080
Speaker 8: assists in just two turnovers. Denver one at Golden State

1976
01:46:40,160 --> 01:46:43,880
Speaker 8: one nineteen to one oh three. Chicago and Atlanta each

1977
01:46:43,920 --> 01:46:44,559
Speaker 8: with victories.

1978
01:46:44,560 --> 01:46:44,920
Speaker 4: The Hawks.

1979
01:46:44,960 --> 01:46:47,679
Speaker 8: Trey Young will have left hand surgery Tuesday and miss

1980
01:46:47,720 --> 01:46:50,400
Speaker 8: at least four weeks due to a torn ligament in

1981
01:46:50,439 --> 01:46:54,759
Speaker 8: a finger Cleveland won at Washington. Wizards have lost eleven straight.

1982
01:46:55,200 --> 01:46:58,519
Speaker 8: Indiana pounded Dallas today. The MAVs had won seven in

1983
01:46:58,520 --> 01:47:01,719
Speaker 8: a row. Wins today for mill Wake and Phoenix. Victories

1984
01:47:01,760 --> 01:47:04,280
Speaker 8: in the top ten of college hoops for Purdue and

1985
01:47:04,360 --> 01:47:07,400
Speaker 8: Marquette two weeks left in the regular season. Saint John's

1986
01:47:07,400 --> 01:47:10,280
Speaker 8: at home beat number fifteen Creighton eighty to sixty six,

1987
01:47:10,560 --> 01:47:13,000
Speaker 8: and Ohio State won at Michigan State on a last

1988
01:47:13,000 --> 01:47:16,919
Speaker 8: second three pointer, sixty to fifty seven. In the NHL,

1989
01:47:17,000 --> 01:47:19,799
Speaker 8: Columbus beat the New York Rangers four to two. Rangers

1990
01:47:19,800 --> 01:47:22,960
Speaker 8: had won ten games in a row. Buffalo won in

1991
01:47:23,000 --> 01:47:27,280
Speaker 8: a shootout overtime wins for Winnipeg and Detroit. Daniel Suarez

1992
01:47:27,320 --> 01:47:30,080
Speaker 8: took the NASCAR Race at Atlanta in a photo finish.

1993
01:47:30,080 --> 01:47:33,040
Speaker 8: Suarez led just nine of the two hundred and sixty

1994
01:47:33,240 --> 01:47:36,760
Speaker 8: laps today. And as we talked about Nikola Jokic, the

1995
01:47:36,840 --> 01:47:41,120
Speaker 8: superlatives just never ending on this player. It wasn't just

1996
01:47:41,280 --> 01:47:43,519
Speaker 8: yet another triple double and he's top five for that

1997
01:47:43,640 --> 01:47:46,320
Speaker 8: all time. How about this from the folks at stats

1998
01:47:46,320 --> 01:47:48,519
Speaker 8: in He's the second player in the history of the

1999
01:47:48,640 --> 01:47:52,240
Speaker 8: NBA to in a three game span have at least

2000
01:47:52,280 --> 01:47:56,880
Speaker 8: eighty points, fifty rebounds total and forty five assists. The

2001
01:47:56,880 --> 01:47:59,960
Speaker 8: only other was Wilt Chamberlain in a three day span

2002
01:48:00,040 --> 01:48:02,680
Speaker 8: and for three games in nineteen sixty eight.

2003
01:48:02,800 --> 01:48:05,680
Speaker 4: Back to you read he played back three games?

2004
01:48:05,920 --> 01:48:10,439
Speaker 2: Correct, Oh my god, which ruins the phrase because you

2005
01:48:10,479 --> 01:48:12,800
Speaker 2: can't go back to back to back. Someone's going to

2006
01:48:12,840 --> 01:48:17,439
Speaker 2: be back three and it's awkward. Yes, but yeah, it

2007
01:48:17,520 --> 01:48:20,840
Speaker 2: was different. It was It was absolutely different. Steve had

2008
01:48:20,880 --> 01:48:24,320
Speaker 2: me pulling up this box score between Charlotte and Portland.

2009
01:48:25,160 --> 01:48:27,639
Speaker 2: Not only are the Blazers one of twenty from three,

2010
01:48:28,280 --> 01:48:31,519
Speaker 2: Charlotte is six of twenty, which is not good.

2011
01:48:32,000 --> 01:48:34,439
Speaker 3: It's not absurd, but it's not good.

2012
01:48:34,600 --> 01:48:38,000
Speaker 2: And when you combine the two, my concern tonight goes

2013
01:48:38,000 --> 01:48:42,080
Speaker 2: for the people who bought tickets to this game. Forty

2014
01:48:42,080 --> 01:48:46,439
Speaker 2: three point shots have been attempted, Seven of them have

2015
01:48:46,479 --> 01:48:47,120
Speaker 2: gone in.

2016
01:48:47,840 --> 01:48:50,160
Speaker 3: To you know how awful of a watch that is?

2017
01:48:50,840 --> 01:48:51,080
Speaker 2: Yes?

2018
01:48:51,120 --> 01:48:53,000
Speaker 4: I do you mean it's brutal?

2019
01:48:53,280 --> 01:48:55,600
Speaker 8: You mean most Hornets and Blazers games?

2020
01:48:55,720 --> 01:48:58,599
Speaker 2: Yes? Yes, Well I'm starting with Steve. Can you help

2021
01:48:58,600 --> 01:49:01,280
Speaker 2: me with this? Is Charlotte just good defensively or something?

2022
01:49:01,280 --> 01:49:03,760
Speaker 2: And I don't know, like, why are they like they're

2023
01:49:03,800 --> 01:49:06,040
Speaker 2: playing college basketball games out there.

2024
01:49:07,280 --> 01:49:10,120
Speaker 5: It is It is tennis without their rocket. You don't

2025
01:49:10,160 --> 01:49:11,720
Speaker 5: you just moving your hand from left to right and

2026
01:49:11,720 --> 01:49:12,760
Speaker 5: there's no accent going on.

2027
01:49:12,840 --> 01:49:14,599
Speaker 4: Really, that's what That's what I mean.

2028
01:49:14,680 --> 01:49:16,839
Speaker 8: Charlotte might be having their best week of the season,

2029
01:49:17,000 --> 01:49:19,120
Speaker 8: Let's be honest, because they had lost about eight or

2030
01:49:19,120 --> 01:49:21,960
Speaker 8: ten in a row until this recent four game winning streak.

2031
01:49:22,040 --> 01:49:24,320
Speaker 8: But no, are they one of the great defensive teams.

2032
01:49:24,360 --> 01:49:25,960
Speaker 8: Are we missing Charlotte somehow?

2033
01:49:26,160 --> 01:49:28,960
Speaker 2: No? No, I don't believe so No. Yeah, turnovers are

2034
01:49:28,960 --> 01:49:31,200
Speaker 2: not going crazy in this game. I mean they're not great,

2035
01:49:31,240 --> 01:49:33,840
Speaker 2: but there's nineteen of them total. Like that was what

2036
01:49:33,960 --> 01:49:36,800
Speaker 2: happened on Friday when they were at Golden State. Like

2037
01:49:36,960 --> 01:49:39,400
Speaker 2: everybody was just thrown. It was the wildest thing I'd

2038
01:49:39,400 --> 01:49:42,519
Speaker 2: ever seen, you know, Like again, I've got I've got kids.

2039
01:49:42,560 --> 01:49:45,840
Speaker 2: I see youth basketball games every single week, and there

2040
01:49:45,840 --> 01:49:49,639
Speaker 2: were fewer bad passes in those games than there were.

2041
01:49:49,800 --> 01:49:52,160
Speaker 8: It was just like what And there's no excuse that

2042
01:49:52,240 --> 01:49:54,599
Speaker 8: these guys hadn't been playing the last couple of weeks.

2043
01:49:54,640 --> 01:49:57,280
Speaker 8: Like New Orleans in a home loss tonight, Brandon Ingram

2044
01:49:57,439 --> 01:50:00,280
Speaker 8: just returned from illness. He had missed multiple games had

2045
01:50:00,360 --> 01:50:04,960
Speaker 8: nine turnovers by himself in this lost tonight. Charlotte Hornets

2046
01:50:05,000 --> 01:50:07,840
Speaker 8: their next two games after tonight, by the way at

2047
01:50:07,840 --> 01:50:10,240
Speaker 8: the Bucks and then hosting the Bucks, So you know,

2048
01:50:10,479 --> 01:50:11,040
Speaker 8: good luck.

2049
01:50:10,960 --> 01:50:16,080
Speaker 2: Good it'll go. Well, yeah, that'll that'll go. Jeez Wold.

2050
01:50:16,080 --> 01:50:19,519
Speaker 2: All right, thanks, great stuff tonight, Steve as always appreciate it.

2051
01:50:19,560 --> 01:50:22,080
Speaker 2: We're live ty rack dot com Studios. He brought up

2052
01:50:22,120 --> 01:50:25,320
Speaker 2: the combine as well, Carrie, I'd love to hear your

2053
01:50:25,320 --> 01:50:28,280
Speaker 2: combine story. Did you go to the combine? I did? Yeah,

2054
01:50:28,360 --> 01:50:31,400
Speaker 2: you did? I did. Okay, I've always looked at that

2055
01:50:31,479 --> 01:50:33,360
Speaker 2: and gone, that's got to be the weirdest experience of

2056
01:50:33,400 --> 01:50:33,800
Speaker 2: all time.

2057
01:50:33,840 --> 01:50:36,559
Speaker 5: And it's the weirdest experience of all time. Yeah right, Yeah,

2058
01:50:36,560 --> 01:50:38,600
Speaker 5: you're not down playing that one at all. It is

2059
01:50:39,600 --> 01:50:43,559
Speaker 5: your your cattle and your rocket being poked and prodded

2060
01:50:44,120 --> 01:50:47,120
Speaker 5: and you've been quized and you're just like, all right,

2061
01:50:47,160 --> 01:50:48,120
Speaker 5: can I go home now?

2062
01:50:49,160 --> 01:50:51,840
Speaker 2: Well, you're asking you all the weird questions back then, too,

2063
01:50:51,960 --> 01:50:53,960
Speaker 2: like not just the wonder lick, but like when you

2064
01:50:54,040 --> 01:50:57,200
Speaker 2: got into interviews with teams, what were they what were

2065
01:50:57,240 --> 01:50:58,639
Speaker 2: they asking you about? Yeah?

2066
01:50:58,680 --> 01:51:01,960
Speaker 5: I mean those those interviews I can't even really remember.

2067
01:51:02,000 --> 01:51:05,920
Speaker 5: But I do remember sitting down with the Patriots and

2068
01:51:06,160 --> 01:51:08,920
Speaker 5: Belichick and those guys, and also the Jets, and I

2069
01:51:08,960 --> 01:51:15,479
Speaker 5: remember both both teams. Really, I left those interviews feeling like, yeah,

2070
01:51:15,520 --> 01:51:16,800
Speaker 5: one of those teams are going to take me. So

2071
01:51:16,840 --> 01:51:19,599
Speaker 5: I kind of had that vibe. Okay, but you know,

2072
01:51:19,680 --> 01:51:23,320
Speaker 5: like it's crazy. They'll ask questions, random questions about plays

2073
01:51:23,360 --> 01:51:24,559
Speaker 5: and stuff that happened during the year.

2074
01:51:24,680 --> 01:51:25,960
Speaker 2: What made you make that check?

2075
01:51:26,280 --> 01:51:28,720
Speaker 5: You look very verbal, like some of the things that

2076
01:51:28,920 --> 01:51:30,640
Speaker 5: they look for in the players, right, I mean, you

2077
01:51:30,680 --> 01:51:32,720
Speaker 5: go to a Belichick system, right, you got to know

2078
01:51:32,760 --> 01:51:36,240
Speaker 5: how to communicate. They want to see like how you

2079
01:51:36,280 --> 01:51:38,280
Speaker 5: are as a leader. They'll go through certain plays and

2080
01:51:38,320 --> 01:51:40,479
Speaker 5: see what I saw on the field why I made

2081
01:51:40,520 --> 01:51:43,240
Speaker 5: that check. And it was cool because I want this.

2082
01:51:43,320 --> 01:51:46,400
Speaker 5: We're just talking football, but there's also stories of what

2083
01:51:46,520 --> 01:51:48,639
Speaker 5: did you do that day when you were in college

2084
01:51:48,680 --> 01:51:52,439
Speaker 5: and you had the blow up with your coach on

2085
01:51:52,479 --> 01:51:55,559
Speaker 5: the sideline one time, or just like random stuff like that,

2086
01:51:55,680 --> 01:51:58,320
Speaker 5: just character stuff, and so it's just you're just looking.

2087
01:51:58,600 --> 01:52:02,400
Speaker 5: I'm like, I'm twenty one, I'm a nemor to be here. Yes,

2088
01:52:02,479 --> 01:52:05,439
Speaker 5: I'm happy. I'm done with his interview and I don't

2089
01:52:05,439 --> 01:52:07,200
Speaker 5: want to jump anymore? Can I go home?

2090
01:52:07,240 --> 01:52:07,559
Speaker 4: Please?

2091
01:52:07,840 --> 01:52:09,080
Speaker 2: We can we eat?

2092
01:52:09,320 --> 01:52:10,759
Speaker 4: Is your food here exactly?

2093
01:52:10,880 --> 01:52:11,599
Speaker 2: Is there food there?

2094
01:52:11,640 --> 01:52:13,000
Speaker 3: Do they feed you real well there?

2095
01:52:13,160 --> 01:52:15,559
Speaker 2: Yeah, like they yeah, that's food.

2096
01:52:15,640 --> 01:52:17,599
Speaker 4: But it's yeah, I mean it's it's great, it's fine.

2097
01:52:17,640 --> 01:52:19,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, the food is fine. It's fine.

2098
01:52:19,479 --> 01:52:21,120
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's fine.

2099
01:52:21,720 --> 01:52:23,679
Speaker 3: Like I have oh go ahead.

2100
01:52:24,880 --> 01:52:27,840
Speaker 5: Yeah, you're doing like all these testing for me, Like

2101
01:52:27,880 --> 01:52:30,280
Speaker 5: my bench press is weak. I wasn't like super super

2102
01:52:30,280 --> 01:52:32,439
Speaker 5: strong at the time. I mean, you're bench pressing two

2103
01:52:32,520 --> 01:52:35,000
Speaker 5: hundred and twenty five pounds and you see some guys

2104
01:52:35,000 --> 01:52:37,920
Speaker 5: that are beast in there doing it forty times and

2105
01:52:37,920 --> 01:52:39,880
Speaker 5: I'm doing it like fifteen, and I'm like, am I weak?

2106
01:52:40,320 --> 01:52:42,000
Speaker 4: Or like are you gonna draft me?

2107
01:52:42,040 --> 01:52:42,160
Speaker 1: Now?

2108
01:52:42,320 --> 01:52:44,280
Speaker 5: Like you really start getting in your head about little

2109
01:52:44,280 --> 01:52:46,320
Speaker 5: things like that, and it's like, oh, this is crazy.

2110
01:52:46,880 --> 01:52:51,559
Speaker 2: Well, I have one big burning question about the combo,

2111
01:52:52,640 --> 01:52:55,599
Speaker 2: and I'll ask it to you next with Carry Rhodes

2112
01:52:55,800 --> 01:52:59,120
Speaker 2: Mark Wheler. This is Fox Sports Radio alright, Live tyrack

2113
01:52:59,200 --> 01:53:02,960
Speaker 2: dot Com Studio. Let me guess this one's not your song.

2114
01:53:03,080 --> 01:53:06,960
Speaker 5: It is not my song, but but I do jam too, though.

2115
01:53:06,960 --> 01:53:08,120
Speaker 4: We get let's get jiggy to it.

2116
01:53:08,200 --> 01:53:11,920
Speaker 5: Mark, Let's get jiggy I didn't know if you want

2117
01:53:12,000 --> 01:53:13,080
Speaker 5: to get jiggy with it.

2118
01:53:13,080 --> 01:53:16,160
Speaker 2: Tight, But now I know, now, I no, I wasn't sure.

2119
01:53:18,040 --> 01:53:21,000
Speaker 2: All right, here's my my forever question about the combine,

2120
01:53:21,360 --> 01:53:25,880
Speaker 2: and I I understand it to a degree. But it's

2121
01:53:25,880 --> 01:53:28,120
Speaker 2: funny to me that that that you all get together.

2122
01:53:29,320 --> 01:53:32,040
Speaker 2: Our buddy Rich Olnberger calls him the underwear Olympics.

2123
01:53:32,120 --> 01:53:36,840
Speaker 9: Yeah, everybody running around out there and span that, and

2124
01:53:37,120 --> 01:53:46,439
Speaker 9: everyone's got stop watches and cameras, questions, microphones and opinions.

2125
01:53:45,280 --> 01:53:47,639
Speaker 2: And they come out of there and they're like, Okay,

2126
01:53:48,240 --> 01:53:52,880
Speaker 2: that's that's I feel such and such about this prospect.

2127
01:53:53,760 --> 01:53:55,599
Speaker 2: I think he can do this. I think he can

2128
01:53:55,640 --> 01:54:00,400
Speaker 2: do that. And the opinion you're forming is whether or

2129
01:54:00,439 --> 01:54:03,360
Speaker 2: not this person's going to be a good football player.

2130
01:54:03,760 --> 01:54:06,800
Speaker 2: And the only thing that they don't do at the

2131
01:54:06,880 --> 01:54:14,320
Speaker 2: combine is play football. Yes, this is my question, and

2132
01:54:14,360 --> 01:54:16,559
Speaker 2: it's only one word why.

2133
01:54:17,600 --> 01:54:22,719
Speaker 5: I don't know, Mark, It is crazy to think about.

2134
01:54:22,760 --> 01:54:26,519
Speaker 5: I mean, it's so many workout warriors out there in

2135
01:54:26,560 --> 01:54:31,080
Speaker 5: general that look good in the tights and can bench

2136
01:54:31,120 --> 01:54:34,040
Speaker 5: press to twenty five fifty times, like I said, and

2137
01:54:34,800 --> 01:54:37,080
Speaker 5: just you look at him, you're like, that guy has

2138
01:54:37,120 --> 01:54:41,360
Speaker 5: to be able to play football, But you've already watched

2139
01:54:41,480 --> 01:54:45,960
Speaker 5: enough tape. I would hope to see that that person

2140
01:54:46,280 --> 01:54:49,800
Speaker 5: can play this way and can he translate to the

2141
01:54:49,840 --> 01:54:52,920
Speaker 5: system we run a run. It looks like it should

2142
01:54:52,960 --> 01:54:57,000
Speaker 5: be very self explanatory. I know the interview process would

2143
01:54:57,040 --> 01:54:59,920
Speaker 5: be fun and that would make sense. But the other

2144
01:55:00,000 --> 01:55:03,480
Speaker 5: stuff to run around and run drills and lift weights

2145
01:55:03,480 --> 01:55:05,080
Speaker 5: and the other it's.

2146
01:55:04,960 --> 01:55:08,800
Speaker 4: Just doesn't even make sense. I mean, it no sense.

2147
01:55:08,880 --> 01:55:11,600
Speaker 2: Mark, I've always want you know what I mean. You're

2148
01:55:11,640 --> 01:55:14,800
Speaker 2: watching remember Johnny Manziel's pro day and he's out there

2149
01:55:14,800 --> 01:55:17,480
Speaker 2: in the Camo shorts and there's music popping and he's

2150
01:55:17,520 --> 01:55:19,680
Speaker 2: hunking the ball all over the field. Yeah. And I'm

2151
01:55:20,000 --> 01:55:22,200
Speaker 2: and this is true quite frankly for every pro day,

2152
01:55:22,200 --> 01:55:25,360
Speaker 2: but that one just had more attention and swagger to it. Yeah,

2153
01:55:25,440 --> 01:55:28,800
Speaker 2: And I'm like, what did we what did we get

2154
01:55:28,840 --> 01:55:33,640
Speaker 2: out of that? Like there wasn't any football? I mean,

2155
01:55:34,000 --> 01:55:38,520
Speaker 2: did people really need to fly thousands of miles to

2156
01:55:38,680 --> 01:55:44,320
Speaker 2: come to Manzelle's own field to assess that he is

2157
01:55:44,440 --> 01:55:46,800
Speaker 2: able to throw a football.

2158
01:55:48,040 --> 01:55:52,120
Speaker 3: Accurately with no defense on the field.

2159
01:55:52,040 --> 01:55:55,640
Speaker 2: Right on air? I'm like, they can all do that, Yes,

2160
01:55:56,440 --> 01:55:59,000
Speaker 2: they can all do that, like, you know what I mean,

2161
01:55:59,320 --> 01:56:03,240
Speaker 2: every back in the league can nail someone fifty yards

2162
01:56:03,240 --> 01:56:06,960
Speaker 2: down the field and stride yes with no defense, no pads,

2163
01:56:06,960 --> 01:56:11,560
Speaker 2: and no helmets like I've never The whole process to

2164
01:56:11,640 --> 01:56:15,760
Speaker 2: me seems flawed, and it feels to me like technology

2165
01:56:16,280 --> 01:56:19,200
Speaker 2: could fix a little bit of it. I understand why

2166
01:56:19,240 --> 01:56:21,840
Speaker 2: you can't line up and play football. People are gonna

2167
01:56:21,840 --> 01:56:25,360
Speaker 2: get hurt. So who's all going to do that? I

2168
01:56:25,400 --> 01:56:28,720
Speaker 2: do understand that. But I would rely if I were

2169
01:56:28,800 --> 01:56:32,840
Speaker 2: scouting and I were drafting, Yes, I would rely much

2170
01:56:32,880 --> 01:56:35,320
Speaker 2: more on what I saw the player do in college

2171
01:56:35,880 --> 01:56:38,680
Speaker 2: than what I see them do at a pro day

2172
01:56:38,800 --> 01:56:43,440
Speaker 2: or at the combine. But also listen, if you're telling

2173
01:56:43,520 --> 01:56:45,480
Speaker 2: me and this is true, now, I know.

2174
01:56:45,440 --> 01:56:48,080
Speaker 3: There are Major League Baseball players who.

2175
01:56:47,920 --> 01:56:50,920
Speaker 2: When they're getting ready to go against a given team,

2176
01:56:51,040 --> 01:56:53,880
Speaker 2: they can go to this place. There are companies that

2177
01:56:53,960 --> 01:56:58,600
Speaker 2: do this now where you can simulate you're at bats

2178
01:56:59,200 --> 01:57:02,440
Speaker 2: against the pit you're going to face in the upcoming series.

2179
01:57:02,480 --> 01:57:06,680
Speaker 2: Oh really, wow, If you've got that kind of technology,

2180
01:57:07,680 --> 01:57:10,960
Speaker 2: how are you unable to take football players and not

2181
01:57:11,120 --> 01:57:17,920
Speaker 2: put them in a very safe individual workout where games

2182
01:57:17,920 --> 01:57:20,120
Speaker 2: are being simulated in front of them.

2183
01:57:20,480 --> 01:57:23,200
Speaker 3: So you could see what they would actually do.

2184
01:57:24,360 --> 01:57:28,320
Speaker 2: In football, well, I think as opposed to running in

2185
01:57:28,360 --> 01:57:30,280
Speaker 2: a straight line. Yeah.

2186
01:57:30,280 --> 01:57:34,400
Speaker 5: I think that's the part where the interview process is huge,

2187
01:57:35,120 --> 01:57:38,160
Speaker 5: because in some of those private meetings, right, there would

2188
01:57:38,200 --> 01:57:41,280
Speaker 5: be and it's not the actual on the field stuff

2189
01:57:41,320 --> 01:57:45,200
Speaker 5: that you're talking about in assimilation, but there's the live footage,

2190
01:57:45,200 --> 01:57:48,120
Speaker 5: there's the game footage, there's the stuff that they have

2191
01:57:49,040 --> 01:57:52,560
Speaker 5: that they can actually walk through the steps of all, right,

2192
01:57:52,640 --> 01:57:55,880
Speaker 5: we're in this defense, we're getting this look on the offense,

2193
01:57:55,920 --> 01:57:58,520
Speaker 5: and they can put that on tape, right, and and

2194
01:57:58,640 --> 01:58:01,040
Speaker 5: have you stand up and make the check and go

2195
01:58:01,120 --> 01:58:02,840
Speaker 5: through the progression of what I would call and what

2196
01:58:02,840 --> 01:58:05,320
Speaker 5: I would do. So you can from an IQ standpoint

2197
01:58:05,440 --> 01:58:09,840
Speaker 5: or knowledge of football standpoint, they could see how fast

2198
01:58:09,880 --> 01:58:11,480
Speaker 5: I can make a check or do these things in

2199
01:58:11,520 --> 01:58:15,240
Speaker 5: this And I guess what would be a pressure simulation

2200
01:58:15,480 --> 01:58:18,920
Speaker 5: being in the room with these NFL guys and these

2201
01:58:19,000 --> 01:58:21,960
Speaker 5: NFL coaches, Right, So you kind of I think that's

2202
01:58:22,040 --> 01:58:25,600
Speaker 5: the only thing we're at the combine. It makes sense

2203
01:58:25,640 --> 01:58:30,560
Speaker 5: from a standpoint of can this guy, even on that level,

2204
01:58:30,720 --> 01:58:34,960
Speaker 5: understand football or say this check based off of our

2205
01:58:35,080 --> 01:58:38,440
Speaker 5: terminology in the situation, right, so that part makes sense,

2206
01:58:38,480 --> 01:58:40,840
Speaker 5: But as far as on the field stuff, you can't.

2207
01:58:41,120 --> 01:58:42,600
Speaker 4: You can't simulate the way they're doing it.

2208
01:58:43,120 --> 01:58:45,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, well except for don't we all know someone who

2209
01:58:45,880 --> 01:58:50,400
Speaker 2: can coach it but can't play it? Right? In true

2210
01:58:51,040 --> 01:58:51,520
Speaker 2: couldn't you?

2211
01:58:51,600 --> 01:58:53,640
Speaker 3: Like so think about this. This is what just went

2212
01:58:53,640 --> 01:58:54,640
Speaker 3: through my head as you're saying that.

2213
01:58:54,800 --> 01:58:57,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, the coach is sitting there with you and they're

2214
01:58:57,800 --> 01:59:00,160
Speaker 2: putting video on the screen and they're like, Okay, what

2215
01:59:00,560 --> 01:59:03,040
Speaker 2: do you see here? And what would you do? But

2216
01:59:03,120 --> 01:59:09,360
Speaker 2: the coach himself knows what to do, but he couldn't play.

2217
01:59:10,000 --> 01:59:12,760
Speaker 2: So he could make a quick Bill Parcells could make

2218
01:59:12,760 --> 01:59:13,680
Speaker 2: a quick decision.

2219
01:59:14,560 --> 01:59:16,480
Speaker 3: He could tell you exactly what you're supposed to do,

2220
01:59:16,600 --> 01:59:19,720
Speaker 3: but could he do it? So?

2221
01:59:19,840 --> 01:59:22,320
Speaker 2: Like right, So smart guy sits in the room and

2222
01:59:22,360 --> 01:59:26,919
Speaker 2: gets all the right answers yea, But then the game happens.

2223
01:59:28,200 --> 01:59:30,280
Speaker 2: And I mean what we're describing, and this is just

2224
01:59:30,360 --> 01:59:32,440
Speaker 2: one example. I don't mean to single the guy out,

2225
01:59:32,720 --> 01:59:35,320
Speaker 2: but that was kind of the word that came out

2226
01:59:35,320 --> 01:59:37,280
Speaker 2: of Niners camp in terms of why they fell in

2227
01:59:37,280 --> 01:59:41,880
Speaker 2: love with Trey Lance. He's answering all he was nailing it.

2228
01:59:42,840 --> 01:59:48,240
Speaker 2: He was nailing all the answers. But but then he

2229
01:59:48,280 --> 01:59:50,640
Speaker 2: didn't do it. Then he didn't do it.

2230
01:59:53,240 --> 01:59:55,880
Speaker 5: Combine makes me laugh, comebin, it's funny, it really is,

2231
01:59:55,920 --> 01:59:58,200
Speaker 5: and it's I don't yeah, I don't know how it

2232
01:59:58,200 --> 02:00:00,320
Speaker 5: can get better. That simulation thing that you just said

2233
02:00:00,440 --> 02:00:03,440
Speaker 5: it sounds cool. I don't know how it would work, though, Man,

2234
02:00:03,480 --> 02:00:04,520
Speaker 5: it's it's a tough one.

2235
02:00:04,840 --> 02:00:06,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know if there's a football version. I

2236
02:00:06,920 --> 02:00:10,000
Speaker 2: just feel like there's simulations of everything else now, so

2237
02:00:10,080 --> 02:00:12,960
Speaker 2: why not? I mean, my god, You've you've got ai,

2238
02:00:13,000 --> 02:00:17,160
Speaker 2: you've got fans in the stands who look like actual people.

2239
02:00:17,240 --> 02:00:19,880
Speaker 3: You can't simulate a football game for the combine?

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02:00:20,240 --> 02:00:23,600
Speaker 5: Hey, that's when you come up with it. Let me know,

2241
02:00:23,720 --> 02:00:25,200
Speaker 5: so I can be a partner with you. Don't don't

2242
02:00:25,240 --> 02:00:26,560
Speaker 5: do this by yourself, all right.

2243
02:00:26,480 --> 02:00:29,280
Speaker 2: All right? Because good idea, because I can't even fix

2244
02:00:29,320 --> 02:00:32,840
Speaker 2: a light bulb. So anyway, great, Great to talk to

2245
02:00:32,880 --> 02:00:35,440
Speaker 2: you again, Carrie. Hopefully we'll do it again soon. Yes, sir, brother,

2246
02:00:35,520 --> 02:00:38,040
Speaker 2: thank you? All right? Four carry roads. I'm Mark Ward

2247
02:00:38,080 --> 02:00:40,440
Speaker 2: playing can Span your next? On Fox Sports Radio.